WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:21.800 Hi, welcome back to give us Mark Neive, I'm Megan, and we're 2 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:26.879 depressed. We got the post show blues guys. It was amazing. I 3 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:33.520 cried hard, she did. Neive looked at me at one point, just 4 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:40.159 bawling my eyes out because you were like you were like next me, singing 5 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:44.560 along, having a good time. And then then like next minute I looked 6 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:49.399 out for actually you were like, is this so beautiful? It was like 7 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:52.719 a full like circle moment for you or something. You're just like, oh 8 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:55.520 my god, I can't believe I'm here. Yeah, it was that. 9 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:59.880 And then they were singing last Hope as well, so I could not. 10 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.920 I was so shocked. She sang that to be perfectly honest, really yeah, 11 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:07.079 it's like a good song. But I just I love the song. 12 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.519 But I just was like, oh no, she probably wouldn't play it. 13 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:15.079 Yeah, no, I know, but it. Yeah. My own bone 14 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:21.120 to pick is that out of the UK and Europe tour, Dublin is the 15 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:25.239 only city that didn't. It's the only city that didn't get all I wanted. 16 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:33.439 Thank you fucking Dublin is because of bullshit technical issues. Those technical issues 17 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:36.000 at the start, and it like derailed it for a few minutes, and 18 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:40.879 so I think they didn't have time to perform it. I don't know, 19 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:46.040 because they just were like because we booed hey at one point, well not 20 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:51.000 we Apparently she got booed because she meant she had a slip of the tongue 21 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:53.000 and said that Ireland was part of the UK, and maybe she was like, 22 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.040 you know what, fuck y'all. However, we did have a school 23 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:02.680 choir moment when she sang the Crimeries. Oh my god, it was absolutely 24 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:07.919 incredible because what it was it was like a mixture of old paramour fans that 25 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:13.560 were there form misery business and things like that, and the new fans and 26 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:22.199 but all of us share are obviously obvious not obviously, yes, of course. 27 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:27.080 So when she whipped out the acoustic atar and started just singing dreams, 28 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:30.199 everybody was singing it back to her. I have to say that was like 29 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.000 a moment where it's like, ah, yeah, this is what it's like 30 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.759 to be Irish. Yeah, like this is this is this is what it 31 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:42.599 is like. Yeah, it was a concert. Was amazing, Yes, 32 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:50.479 won't lie though, I'm I was so mad the next night when they released 33 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:55.560 the next day they like had released the setlist, the setlist was supposed to 34 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:59.960 be, and all I wanted was on there. I was like, fucking 35 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:06.120 shitting me, are you fucking having right now? Miss Williams. If you're 36 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.879 nasty, i am nasty. I'm bitter nasty because he didn't play Oh My 37 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:15.599 Wife. But it was incredible and then Zach did some half noise stuff. 38 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.360 But yeah, ten out of ten. If you ever have the opportunity to 39 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.199 go and see Power More Alive, even if you don't really like their music, 40 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:24.120 it's kind of just a vibe to be there. I have to say, 41 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:30.199 like out of the not all too many, but several concerts I've been 42 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:34.039 to over the years, she was up there like they were the band and 43 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:38.199 everything. They were up there with one of the greatests that I've seen. 44 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:43.719 Yeah, their energy is just insane and they keep going for the whole show, 45 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.759 show, the interaction with the crowd. Yes, their energy and everything 46 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:52.879 like and even like how they set For me, it's how they sound like. 47 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:55.000 It is their energy as well, but how they sound like. If 48 00:03:55.000 --> 00:04:00.000 they don't sound the same, it's wrong. Oh my god. The music 49 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:06.360 itself, obviously on part always sounds so good. But her vocals for how 50 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:11.080 much she jumps around the stage. Yeah, I don't understand how she can 51 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:15.639 do it. Honestly, Kings of Leon would be my faith so far, 52 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:20.480 just because my favor in general, but like in live but I have to 53 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:26.120 say she like not just her, but the like they put on a great 54 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:29.360 show. They put on a good competition show. Like I was like, 55 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:33.839 damn, anyway, we've literally been talking about them for five minutes, so 56 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:40.800 so we'll just jimp ready. In last week, you heard about part two 57 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:46.839 of Good Old Peter. Yeah, I talked about Peter Sutcliffe and I went 58 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:54.560 into in the first episode of this three part I went into like his growing 59 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:58.879 up life and kind of mentioned his like first few attacks, and then in 60 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:02.319 the second part, I went heavily into his attacks and that's when he started 61 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:09.879 murdering women, mostly sex workers. And I also talked about how the media 62 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:14.920 really heavily focused on it being sex workers, like it was like, oh, 63 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.879 the media was like no sex workers, like oh, it's nothing. 64 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:27.399 Now it's nothing. And then I also mentioned just briefly about how the police 65 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:31.480 at this time that we're looking after this case, where'd doing such a great 66 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:39.720 job. They had like five million different sex dedicated to finding Peter Sutcliffe literally 67 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:46.079 like pretty much in every town that he attacked, like headquarters would be set 68 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:51.279 up to find the Yorkshire Ripper. And you're like, yeah, or you 69 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:58.199 could just all combine to one m and then there's no lack of communication or 70 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:01.800 anything like that. That would be great. That would be fucking fantastic. 71 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:08.600 It's actually, um, I believe not too long ago, like only a 72 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:15.600 couple of years ago, the police, like in the Yorkshire area apologized for 73 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:21.240 the handling of this case. I'm sure that wasn't easy to admit. They 74 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:29.560 were like, yeah, he could have been better. Whoopsie, daisies are 75 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:34.959 bad. At least nobody got her. Oh wait, never mind, at 76 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:40.120 least at least it was only it was only sex workers. You guys, 77 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:45.120 it's fine, clarification, We don't think like that. No, that was 78 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:50.199 still smocking the police. Um. And then I also just talked about how 79 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:57.839 the police were now trying to set up like rewards for anybody that had information 80 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:04.120 on who they thought the Yorkshire Ripper was, and I left off with how 81 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:13.959 the police were beginning to receive letters from Jack the Ripper. But side note, 82 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:18.519 this is not Peter Sutcliff. This is just another sickle. He was 83 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:25.079 like trying to take credit or some shit. Yeah, fuck off. So 84 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:30.639 the first letter was sent to the police in March nineteen seventy eight. The 85 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:38.000 letter talked about how he was sorry for killing Jane McDonald. She was the 86 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:45.600 sixteen year old girl that Peter had quote miss stuck for a sex worker. 87 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.920 Yes, yea. So he talked about how he was sorry for killing her 88 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:56.800 and how he was only killing sex workers. He then signed this letter Jack 89 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:01.519 the Ripper and as I said, this is not sent by Peter Sutcliffe. 90 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.639 And Peter later on, when he's caught, it's like, I said, 91 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.560 none of the like, none of these are me. No, that wasn't 92 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.639 me. The murders, yeah, noh know. He when I say, 93 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.000 he says none of it was me. He means the letters. He knows 94 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:22.120 he's caught on the murder part. He's like, that was me. But 95 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:26.959 the letters, now that's some weirdough. You guys might want to look into 96 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:35.000 that and there's some real sickos out there. Days later, the same person 97 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:39.360 wrote a similar letter to the Daily Mail. In this letter, he told 98 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:46.960 them to quote warn them whores, oh about how he was planning to strike 99 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.480 again, once again, the letter was signed Jack the Ripper, and once 100 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.120 again Peter didn't write this. Both letters mentioned a murder that took place in 101 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:03.240 nineteen seventy five, and this led the police to start investigating it. However, 102 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:07.440 this murder was not committed by Peter Sutcliffe. So this letter starts talking 103 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:13.480 about and this the two letters start talking about a murder that took place in 104 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:18.039 nineteen seventy five, just before Peter started murdering, and it like takes place 105 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:24.840 in like a completely different part of Yorkshire. Right, Peter Suckcliffe did not 106 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:30.919 commit this murder, and I'm pretty sure they have found who did commit this 107 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.840 murder, but at this stage they have not, Okay, And so the 108 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:41.080 Yorkshire Ripper Like, so they're receiving letters and they are assuming that it's from 109 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:45.759 the Yorkshire Ripper because I mean, why wouldn't you, in their defense, 110 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:50.399 because you signed it as fucking Jack. Yeah. But so the reason why 111 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.919 he was called the Yorkshire Ripper is because he was killing, like, he 112 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:00.840 was killing sex workers like Jack the Ripper, right, Okay, so that's 113 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.080 why they were like, oh, well, it's obviously the same guy who's 114 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:09.399 trying to recreate Jack the Ripper. I know that in this scenario it wasn't 115 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:15.440 actually the murderer, but like son of Sam, BTK, what's with the 116 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.919 letters? Even the X Man of New Orleans he'd done a letter as well. 117 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:26.240 His letter though, was that was to Tree. I'm gonna hang that 118 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:31.799 up on my wall. He's hurt. Yeah, I don't know. And 119 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.399 they do later find out who writes these letters, like he doesn't really hot, 120 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.600 Like he's just like, yeah, it's just it's just some old weep. 121 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:46.279 Yeah, it's just like I thought it would be funny. People don't 122 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:52.440 do if your evenings people are being murdered, and you're like, wouldn't it 123 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:58.200 be funny to send the investigation in a completely wrong direction? I mean, 124 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:05.159 what else do you do and on your Friday nights? Honestly, Like police 125 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:09.159 are now investigating this murder, like obviously this murder should be investigated, but 126 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:15.320 they're now linking it to the Yorkshire Ripper and looking at it. Yeah, 127 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:18.200 they're now looking at it as if it's a Yorkshire Ripper killing when it's not, 128 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.679 and it needs a different set of eyes, like it needs someone for 129 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:31.120 not thin thin the Yorkshire Ripper, Like that's so damaging, so for literally, 130 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.240 just like the way that this person was killed. Do you know if 131 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:39.279 it was at all similar? I think it was. I think it was 132 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:43.000 somewhat similar. And from what I can remember, I should have wrote notes 133 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.960 on it, and I didn't because I was like, I'll remember that, 134 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:52.440 and because I think, yeah, because that's what I do. M But 135 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:58.559 yeah, I think it was somewhat similar. But it so. Peter Southcliffe 136 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:05.159 didn't start attacking women until nineteen seventy five. And the way he was doing 137 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.559 it, he was doing it in specific areas. There's only like a hand 138 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.919 like, there's only like two or three times that he leaves Yorkshire to go 139 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:18.960 to Manchester, and this murder took place in a completely different part of Yorkshire. 140 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.600 And so it's like, I think, if you were to look at 141 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.639 it, you would say, no, this isn't a Yorkshire ripper killing. 142 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.879 But the police were just because they got the letter the right O, well 143 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:37.679 than it has to be. So before they couldn't connect cases together like at 144 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.080 all, and now they're just connecting random cases together because some fool rode in. 145 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.320 Yeah. Oh he does more than write in. He leaves a tape 146 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:52.120 like a vote, an audio tape. Okay, Then, on May sixteenth, 147 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:58.960 nineteen seventy eight, Peter came across forty year old Via Millward Vera was 148 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:03.840 waiting on a right their client, as she needed some money, as a 149 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:09.279 lot of them did and there's a lot of us still do. Peter pulled 150 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.480 up and asked if she was in business, and Via agreed. Peter then 151 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:18.200 pulled up to a quiet spot beside the Manchester Royal Infirmary, which is a 152 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:24.399 hospital. He then suggested they get in the back of the car, and 153 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.320 while Via wasn't looking, he hit her over the head with his hammer. 154 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:35.240 He then dragged VIA's body out of sight and began slashing her torso with a 155 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:41.399 knife. He then turned Via on her back and began stabbing her in the 156 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:46.519 same spot repeatedly in her back. Peter then left her body in a pile 157 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:52.360 of rubbish. The next morning, two men arrived to do grounds work for 158 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:58.320 the Royal Infirmary. When they saw what they thought was a dummy at first, 159 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.960 because obviously it's a hospital. They were like, they thought like it 160 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:07.759 was like it's teaching yeah, yeah, like you know, for like teaching 161 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:11.879 CPO or something like that. As they got closer, they realized that it 162 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:16.000 was indeed a corpse, and they called nine one one. Can I just 163 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:22.159 say the unfortunate irony of being murdered at a hospital, like that's horrible? 164 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.399 Could you imagine her heart? Like she's like he just if one doctor hears 165 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.679 me, if yeah, if anyone, and then like if a nurse hears 166 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.759 me, if someone hears me, like I'm at the hospital, like I'm 167 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:39.360 here. M police knew right away that it was a ripper killing. They 168 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:45.200 found bootprints and care tracks. A man also came forward and said that the 169 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.639 night of the murder, around the time of death, he was bringing his 170 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.879 son into a and E and he thought he heard someone scream for help. 171 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:56.320 Three times he stopped to listen, but he didn't hear anything, and he 172 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:01.080 put it down to stress because he was like run in with his child. 173 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.519 And to be fair to the man, like if you're the sick child in 174 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:11.159 your arms, that like requires any Yeah, you're gonna be like, did 175 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.919 I hear someone scream for help? And also you are at a hospital where 176 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.879 people are screaming, Yeah, so you're kind of would be more inclined to 177 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:24.159 be like I have to get my son in here. Yeah, just brush 178 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.480 it off and I know it sounds bad, but you're gonna be like, 179 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:31.240 my child is more important right now. M Like, so you don't think 180 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:35.159 about it. Like at a hospital, you're thinking like, oh, they're 181 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.639 probably being looked after, you know, yeah exactly. Police questioned Peter again 182 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:46.639 in August nineteen seventy eight about his car and in regards to the tire tracks 183 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.320 that they found at the scene of the Royal Infirmary. Peter said that it 184 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:56.039 was the only time his tire tracks were near a scene because he was on 185 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.799 his way to and from work, Like he was like, oh, I 186 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:03.720 was just to and from work, and that's probably like how my tire tracks 187 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:10.440 might be there. He also denied using the service of sex workers because he 188 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:15.039 was happily married. Well, did he use the service of sex workers if 189 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:19.799 he was impotent? Like I fully am believing that he is impotent. Yeah, 190 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.879 they never have any children or anything like that. So it's a very 191 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:30.480 real possibility. And police are like, okay, reasonable answer to me. 192 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:33.600 COO cool, see you at next time, probably, Peter, Oh you're 193 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:38.279 happily married. Yeah, of course. Men never cheap use sex workers ever, 194 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.799 there's no need for them. They just all keep popping up for no 195 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:49.320 apparent reason unheard of. Peter then sold his car and he bought a black 196 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.840 car, so he was driving I believe a white car at this time. 197 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:57.039 Yeah, this is his third car now, so this is his third care 198 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:04.400 and his mother then passed away in November nineteen seventy eight. People said that 199 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:10.559 Peter's attitude changed and he became more rude and more angry once his mother died. 200 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:17.039 Then police received a third letter from quote unquote Jack the Ripper, almost 201 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:21.720 a year after the first one, in March nineteen seventy nine, and again 202 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:27.079 this was not written by Peter. On April fourth, nineteen seventy nine, 203 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:32.839 Peter was out drinking with Trevor Birdsall, and after dropping Trevor home, he 204 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:38.599 went back out looking for a victim. Peter saw nineteen year old Josephine Whittaker, 205 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:45.319 who was walking home from her grandparents' house. Peter stopped Josephine and asked 206 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:49.000 if she had the right time and if she had fire to walk. While 207 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:52.680 Josephine checked the time, Peter hit her over the head with his hammer. 208 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:56.799 It's interesting that this time he's not even asking like are you in? As 209 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.920 he likes to say, business, business, yeah, he's like, not 210 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:06.920 even pretending anymore. So this sweet young girl she went to visit her grandmother 211 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:10.559 and her grandfather because she was like this sweet little girl, like she was 212 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:12.480 nineteen, do you know what I mean. She's a sweet, sweet girl. 213 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.160 She wants to go see them. She missed them, spend time with 214 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:19.519 them. And then I got late and she was like, oh, I 215 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:25.519 better go home. And he just seen her walking along this road and was 216 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:30.480 like, among a sex worker. Of course, always a sex worker would 217 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.680 be out at night. Then what are you doing at at night, Peter? 218 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.519 If you don't use their services and you're not a sex worker, you 219 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:41.680 should be cuddled up at home in bed with your wife like a good Christian 220 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.519 man. So then he asks her like what He's like, oh, do 221 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:47.599 you have the right time? And then he's like do you have fair to 222 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.759 walk? And then she like looks down to check her watch and he does 223 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:57.359 hits her. Once she fell and was no longer conscious, Peter dragged Josephine 224 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:02.559 about thirty feet out of you. He then began to stab her with a 225 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.559 screwdriver he had sharpened. He had sharpened the screwdriver because I remember him using 226 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:11.160 it before and I remember thinking, oh, that takes a bit more effort 227 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.640 than I You know, he like sharpened this screwdriver for the purpose of stabbing 228 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:25.079 somebody with it. Brilliant diy diy. He proceeded to stab her twenty five 229 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:30.039 times all over her body, including her vagina. He then dragged her body 230 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.240 to the middle of the field. The next morning, a woman waiting on 231 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:41.440 a bus waiting on a bust at a stop spotted Josephine's body. She ran 232 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:45.160 to the bus stop to call nine one. A bus driver also reported the 233 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:49.240 scene as he wasn't sure what he saw, but he knew it was something 234 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:56.160 bad as he was like driving past. As police arrived at the scene, 235 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:03.000 Josephine's thirteen year old brother was cycling by to deliver newspapers again with the kids, 236 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:10.119 and he saw a shoe on the sidewalk. He knew the shoe and 237 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:14.960 he ran home to tell his parents what he saw. That's when they realized 238 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:19.119 that Josephine had never come home. They immediately rang the police for information. 239 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:26.799 Police didn't know whether to link Josephine's murder with the rippers or not, because 240 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:30.400 she wasn't a sex worker and he's only killing sex workers, but he has 241 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.039 already killed other women who are not sex workers, who have been deemed quote 242 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:40.519 unquote innocent. And again I have to say it, how many women are 243 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:47.160 being mutilated in Yorkshire that they are not connecting? This wild to be perfectly 244 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:49.920 honest, because I feel like it's a very specific thing that he's doing as 245 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:53.720 well. Do you know, like he's hitting them with a hammer and then 246 00:20:53.799 --> 00:21:00.640 he's stabbing them with some type of sharp object. Yeah, Like how many 247 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:03.480 women are being attacked with a hammer and being stabbed? Like? How why 248 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:10.200 is that something that you're not linking that it's so regular? What? Yeah, 249 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:15.599 I don't get it. The police were focused on the letters that they 250 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:18.920 had been receiving. They were kind of like banking on the letters to tell 251 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.720 them who the ripper was. But that was never going to be the case 252 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:27.039 because it is not the ripper that is writing them. It's not the Zodiac 253 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:30.799 et. It's like, break this and I'll tell you who I am. 254 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:37.079 I must know who the Zodiac killer is. It's like my life's mission. 255 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:41.920 If I die before I know who he is, I'll be so pissed and 256 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:45.880 I will haunt him. Didn't they crack the code a little? While ago 257 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:51.079 they cracked one. How many other left, you know, like three or 258 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:56.319 something. Christ they because they reckon, They reckon. It's going to take 259 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.640 like years to decode them all. In June nineteen seven nine, police received 260 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:06.599 an audio tape from someone claiming to be the ripper. However, again it's 261 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:11.960 not Peter. The tape said quote, I'm Jack. I still, I 262 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:17.039 still, I'm Jack. I see you still have no luck catching me. 263 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:22.759 I have the greatest respect for you. George. George is the lead investigator 264 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.599 at this time. The lead investigator change changes a few times, but currently 265 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:33.160 it is George. Okay, but lord, you are no nearer to catching 266 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.920 me now than four years ago when I started. I reckon. Your boys 267 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.480 are letting you down. George. You can't be much good, can you. 268 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:47.079 The only time they came near me was in Chapeltown when I was disturbed, 269 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:51.559 and it was a uniform copper, not a detective. I warned you 270 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:56.160 in March i'd strike again. Sorry it wasn't Bradford. I did promise you 271 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.839 that, but I couldn't get there. I'm not quite sure when I'll strike 272 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:06.920 again, but definitely sometime this year, maybe September or October even sooner if 273 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:11.920 I can get the chance. I'm not sure where. Maybe maybe Manchester. 274 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.839 I like it there. There is plenty of them knocking about. They never 275 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:19.680 learned, do they, George. I bet you warned them, but they 276 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.640 never listen. At the rate I'm going, I should be in the book 277 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:29.440 of records. I think it's eleven up to now, isn't it. I'll 278 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:36.200 keep on going for quite a while yet, I can't see myself being nicked 279 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:40.720 just yet. Even if you do get near, I'll probably talk myself first. 280 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:45.240 Well, it's been nice chatting to you, George, yours Jack the 281 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:52.920 ripper. I'm very curious about it. I was interrupted by a uniformed copper 282 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:59.599 because wasn't Peter interrupted before he was calling a bush? He was, but 283 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:04.680 he see, here's the hilarious thing the police have like like the press knew 284 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:10.160 about that, Like all of what he says is something that is so easily 285 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.880 gathered by the press, Like the press knew he was interrupted because she was 286 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:22.000 still alive, and like so the media are interviewing he's he's interrupted when he 287 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.799 wasn't in the bush. The crop just found him in the bush. He 288 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.799 hadn't attacked anybody yet. Oh, that was years ago. No, he 289 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:34.759 was He's been interrupted like several times. There was one time he was den 290 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:41.319 an alleyway and someone turned on their headlights. M there was like there's been 291 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.759 several times that he's like almost been caught, and so like when that happens, 292 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:51.799 the media are then interviewing like who who caught Like who stopped him? 293 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:53.599 Do you know what I mean? And so it's like, oh, yeah, 294 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:57.759 it's easy to assume that like at one stage or another policeman almost caught 295 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:04.079 him. So this person writing the letters is just like making educated guesses based 296 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:10.599 on what they've read in the media, saying like I'll probably attack again in 297 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:17.119 September or October. It's a complete another like guess hmm, do you know? 298 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:18.880 And then but then he covers himself by being like maybe soon or if 299 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.359 I can get the chance, yeah, and then he's like might go to 300 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.880 Manchester if I can get up there, do you know, Like it's like 301 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.759 if I can, I told you before i'd attack him. So like the 302 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.759 last letter they got, it was like, oh, I'm going to attack 303 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:40.319 him Bradford, but then he the actual like Peter then he didn't attack him 304 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:41.680 in Bradford. So he's like, oh, I couldn't get up there, 305 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.440 and that's why I didn't attack Bradford. No, you didn't attack in Bradford 306 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.559 because he didn't attack in Bradford because he didn't know you told the police that's 307 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:56.599 where he was going to attack. Yeah, fucking hell. That guy watching 308 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.200 the news seeing that the most recent attack was in New Yorkshire, like, 309 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:02.880 fuck, how am I going to cover this one up? She's like, 310 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:07.559 oh I couldn't get there, oh my flat tires, or just a suggestion, 311 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.559 you just don't send any more letters. Yeah, you could have stopped 312 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:17.400 it here. You could have stopped it here, bib, Like, honestly, 313 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:22.440 what are you doing. Let's take a quick add break before we go 314 00:26:22.599 --> 00:27:19.640 any further and welcome back. A few weeks after receiving the letters, police 315 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:25.880 released clips of the audio and partial paragraphs of the letters to the public. 316 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:32.359 They were hopeful that someone would recognize either the manner of speaking, the voice, 317 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.960 or even the handwriting of the letters. Wait, so at this stage, 318 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:42.480 sorry, at this stage the audio has been said, right, Yeah, 319 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:48.200 so police have letters and audio, and so they release snippets of the 320 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:53.680 audio, and they release paragraphs of the letters to the press of like for 321 00:27:53.759 --> 00:28:00.880 the press to like put out and they're hoping that some one either recognizes the 322 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:07.079 accent, the voice or the manner of speaking, and then that they're also 323 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:14.799 hoping that someone recognizes the handwriting or you know, like something something. The 324 00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:21.000 accent on the audio was that of the Jordi accent. Jordi so sure. 325 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.480 Why? Oh my god. I used to have such a love hate relationship 326 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:29.880 with that show. Yeah. Same. It was good when it was like 327 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.519 brand new and before they like were getting into VIP parts of the club and 328 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:38.359 stuff. The first like few seasons were so good and then they got like 329 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:44.400 more and more famous and it became more and more shit. Yeah, it's 330 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.680 like it gets more scripted because they had to keep the drama in the show. 331 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.680 Then it also made me really upset for Charlotte because she had an ef 332 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:56.119 topic pregnancy and he was just like I found myself a girlfriend. Yeah, 333 00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.319 my heart breaks for Charlotte. She's pregnant. She's not pregnant now, Holly 334 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:06.200 is Holly is Charlotte's had her baby. O. I'm so happy for her. 335 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.480 I know. Yeah. I literally was like I won't lie. I 336 00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.440 was like, oh my god, because like I was like, she like 337 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:18.640 deserves this. Yeah, yes, So the accent on the audiotape is that 338 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.480 of someone from like Newcastle, Like it's like a Geordy accent. So they're 339 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:27.319 like, oh, that means that the killer is northern. However it's not 340 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:33.559 Peter Sultcliffe on the audio, and Peter Sultcliffe does not have a Geordy accent. 341 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:41.039 Wheel wheel. Then, on September first, nineteen seventy nine, Peter 342 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:47.240 was looking for a victim and that's when he saw twenty year old Barbara Leach. 343 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.759 Barbara was walking home alone from a local pub. Peter was getting out 344 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.640 of his car while Barbara walked past him, and as she did, Peter 345 00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.319 hit her on the head with his hammer. He didn't even ask her question, 346 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.759 he didn't even stop her. He does let her walk past, and 347 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.960 then as soon as her back was to him, he attacked her like the 348 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:12.079 coward body is yea. He then dragged her body into a backyard and began 349 00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:18.359 stabbing her with the same screw driver that he used on Josephine. Peter then 350 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.960 positioned Barbara's body before placing rubbish and stones on top of her. The next 351 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:27.240 day, Barbara's roommates were worried that she never came home. However, they 352 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:33.440 didn't want to report her missing just yet in case like she stayed at a 353 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.920 friend's house or because logically that's what you're thinking. You're not thinking she's just 354 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.720 dead in a backyard somewhere. She's a college student. Yeah, she could 355 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.319 have met a guy and gone back to his house. She could have stayed 356 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.759 in a different friend's house. She could have literally anything as possible, and 357 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.960 they didn't want to like report her missing and then have her walk in the 358 00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:55.960 door and then happened to explain to police like, oh, do you know, 359 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.759 I get I do get it, But at the same time, what's 360 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:06.359 going on in the area. I would prefer to cause the hulla blooon, 361 00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:10.119 to cause the hassle. You see. It's because as well as that, 362 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:15.839 you have the like media being like it's just sex workers. M yeah, 363 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.319 and so they're like, well, she's not a sex worker, so she's 364 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.960 safe. When the case was that he was just attacking women like m just 365 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:30.519 of any age, Like you have women to attack there that are in their 366 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.680 forties, and then you have women that he's attacked that are teenagers like sixteen, 367 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.519 yeah, yeah, do you know they finally do decide to report her 368 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:44.240 missing later on that afternoon, and while looking for her, police found her 369 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.759 body. Police then immediately are like, yeah, that's a ripper, Like 370 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.920 that's a ripper murder and body hidden, and like the way it was staged 371 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:59.039 and everything. Police were starting to get a lot of questions for from the 372 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.880 media and the public as to why this case hadn't been solved yet, like 373 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.640 it's been four years, and like there's still no closer to finding him. 374 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:14.720 There's still so much murders happening, Like what the fuck's going on? So 375 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:19.000 they began to go back and look at their cases again to see what maybe 376 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:22.880 they had missed. They questioned people again in the hopes of new leads. 377 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:30.200 Peter was formally questioned nine to ten times, and he was interacted with at 378 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:38.200 least nineteen times during the investigation. That's it's just mind blowing. So like 379 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:45.200 he's formally brought in for questioning nine or ten times, but he's interacted with 380 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:51.359 a total of nineteen times at least, if not more, And this is 381 00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.599 obviously only giving him confidence that he keeps going in and they're like, now 382 00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:00.319 you're good, he's getting like he's getting away with it. Yeah, he's 383 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:05.440 like, they're questioning me, not realizing that it's me. So I can 384 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.119 do whatever I want and it's fine. It's could be pretty much. Peter 385 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:13.799 told police that he was at home doing repair work the night Barbara was killed, 386 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:20.240 and Sonia cooborated this for him. Sonia was unaware that Barbara was killed 387 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:24.119 after one am, like she assumed she was killed like nine pm. Like 388 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.480 they're like, oh, on the night that she was killed. She's like, 389 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.559 i'll probably like early nighttime, yeah, evening, yeah, yeah, 390 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.000 And so she's like, no, he was at home. But then where's 391 00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.519 your husband at one o'clock in the morning. See what he's doing. And 392 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.720 this is where he's clever. He's going, I'm going for drinks with Trevor, 393 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.319 like Trevor birds All. Yeah, And he goes for drinks or for 394 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.119 Trevor birds All and then he's like, I'll drop you home, Trevor, 395 00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:51.480 and then I'm going to head home. But he doesn't head home. He 396 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.279 heads off looking for a victim. So he has an alibi there because he's 397 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.079 going. Trevor's going to say, yeah, he dropped me home and then 398 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.680 he went home, and then she's yeah, he went for drinks with Trevor 399 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.160 and then came home. Right, I see. I'm still waiting for Trevor's 400 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.239 redemption arc. By the way, it's it's it's coming, I promise. 401 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:17.280 So police spent over one million pounds investigating the letters on the audio tape that 402 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:24.119 wasn't actually from the ripper, So they spent over one million pounds on something 403 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:32.199 that they should not have. Yes. Then in June nineteen eighty, police 404 00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:38.320 followed Peter home as he was caught speeding. Whoa while, not hiding in 405 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:44.440 a bush is enough to follow you home, but speeding. They soon realized 406 00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.639 that he was drunk, so they're like, he's drunk, and then police 407 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:54.960 starts fighting with Peter starts fighting with the police overdoing a breathalyzer. Police eventually 408 00:34:55.079 --> 00:35:01.920 arrest Peter and suspend his license for drunk driving and speeding. Okay, One 409 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:09.360 of the arresting officers suggested that Peter be investigated investigated as a possible suspect for 410 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:14.800 the Ripper, and other detectives told him that he'd already been ruled out. 411 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:20.320 That one police officer must have been I don't even know the word. In 412 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:24.719 the Netflix documentary, they actually interview him and he's like, I really felt 413 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:28.960 like he was a strong possibility, like he was just like it was just 414 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.920 something about him. My spidy senses were tangling to be on quite literally, 415 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.840 and so he's like, why don't we interview him again for an eleventh time? 416 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.679 And they're like, but he's been ruled out and he's like, oh, 417 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.519 I don't know, I just feel like something and he in the In 418 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:50.920 the Netflix documentary, he basically says that the higher ups of the investig he's 419 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.519 just like an arresting officer, not like the higher up detectives are like, 420 00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:59.679 if you mentioned Peter Sutcliffe's name to us one more fucking time, you're at 421 00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:05.000 the door, Oh, he's been ruled out, leave it, drop it. 422 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:07.440 So he's like, new, him's got it. They you know, 423 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:12.719 they probably didn't want to catch a case for fucking harassment either, probably not. 424 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.480 But at the same time, this police officer is like, no, 425 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.519 no, no, listen to me, like I'm seeing this go down like 426 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:21.639 in a movie, like leave it alone, that you're off the case, 427 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.400 you know, essentially essentially is what happened to him. Then, on August 428 00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:34.159 twentieth, nineteen eighty, Peter jumped Margarette walls. Margarette was walking home from 429 00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.280 work, went out of nowhere, Peter jumped her. He hit her over 430 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:43.159 the head with a hammer and then looped rope around her neck before dragging her 431 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.920 out of sight. Peter then proceeded to strangle Margarette. He then took all 432 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:54.000 of her clothes except for a pair of tights. He then put grass cuttings 433 00:36:54.159 --> 00:37:00.559 and leaves over her and the next morning to gardener has found Margaret's body and 434 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:06.719 immediately called the police. At first, police did not link the depth to 435 00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.400 the ripper because the EMO was completely different. And I will give them this 436 00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:15.559 one. It is completely not at all what you're expecting from a Yorkshire ripper 437 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:22.519 killing. Margarette was never considered a victim of the ripper until Peter is caught 438 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:29.199 and eventually admits to everything. Right, so they're not investigating this as a 439 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:34.880 ripper case whatsoever. And it's not until Peter is actually arrested and he starts 440 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:39.679 like confessing, yep, I got her too. Yeah. Then on September 441 00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:45.199 twenty fourth, nineteen eighty, Peter was in a KFC restaurant when he saw 442 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:52.599 a thirty four year old Upondia Bandara and I'm so sorry if I did not 443 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:59.119 say that right. Peter immediately left the restaurant and quickly began following her. 444 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:05.679 As soon as she turned down a badly alleyway, Peter ran up and hit 445 00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:13.360 her over the head with a hammer. No hate that, Nope, No, 446 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:15.239 it's the running. You know, That's what you're was afraid of. 447 00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:21.360 It is, isn't it. He then began to try and strangle her with 448 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.599 her rope and he looted it around her neck. Someone could hear the commotions, 449 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.239 so they walked outside to see what was going on and they scared Peter 450 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:35.960 off. The neighbor rang police immediately when they saw Pandia bleeding from her head. 451 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.559 Police did link this to the Ripper case, but they did not link 452 00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:45.960 the murder of Margarette, so they were like, yeah, okay, we'll 453 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:50.239 believe you that this is the ripper Emma was similar to the previous murder. 454 00:38:52.840 --> 00:39:00.400 Yeah, that's still not a Ripper case. Upandia, thankfully survived, wasn't 455 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:05.800 able to give a clear description of her attacker because obviously she's in a KFC 456 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.719 like getting food, leaving, not paying attention to like people are coming in 457 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:13.519 at the doors, and like, of course you don't you don't look at 458 00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.320 people when you're in a fast food restaurant. I am busy eating my three 459 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:22.079 burgers and I'm piling that ship. Yeah, but my sweet and Sarah saw 460 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:29.639 some. I'm just drinking it. On November fifth, nineteen eighty, Peter 461 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:34.360 was on the hunt again for a victim when he saw sixteen year old Teresa 462 00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:40.760 Sikes. Teresa was walking home after buying cigarettes and was fifty yards from her 463 00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:46.000 home when Peter snuck up behind her and hit her over the head. As 464 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:51.960 she fell to the ground, Peter hit her again. Peter thought Teresa wasn't 465 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:58.119 conscious and began to drag her. When Teresa began screaming for help, Peter 466 00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.559 quickly fled the scene. Teresa's boyfriend came running out to the screens and found 467 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:06.199 her in the grass. He called nine one one, but Teresa wasn't able 468 00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:12.039 to give a clear description of her attacker. I'm so glad that her and 469 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:19.800 the previous victim obviously survived, yes thankfully. Two weeks later, on November 470 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:23.159 seventeenth, nineteen eighty, Peter told Sonya he was working late and that she 471 00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:28.039 shouldn't wait up for him. But he wasn't working late. He was on 472 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.559 the hunt for a victim when he saw a twenty year old Jacqueline Hill. 473 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:37.079 Jacqueline was walking home from a lecture. Peter was in a KFC when he 474 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:42.599 saw her and decided, okay, follow her. Now it's getting unhealthy, 475 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.039 Peter, all right, he needs to calm down with the KFC. I 476 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:50.400 know the bone, the boneless wings are good. We gotta calm down. 477 00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:53.360 Why is he ruining KFC for everybody? You know what, John mane Gacy, 478 00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.880 the KFC. I'm just gonna have to ask serial killers to stay away 479 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:05.760 from delicious fast food chain restaurants. Yeah, if you ruined McDonald's for me, 480 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.599 I will fucking haunt you down myself if you were if anyone dares, 481 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:15.039 If anyone dares, I'll suffocate them with the mcflurry. You know what worse 482 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.840 a filet of fish? Oh yeah, you're getting a filet of fish in 483 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.880 your face. You're getting twenty I'm going to suffocate you. I'm going to 484 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.360 shove them in your mount until you can't breathe no more. WHOA that felt 485 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:35.360 personal? I really like McDonald's. Okay. As Jacqueline turned down a badly 486 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.159 light road, Peter snuck up behind her, and hit her over the head 487 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.920 with a hammer. He then dragged her body behind in Arndale, behind the 488 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:47.639 Arndale Shopping Center, which is in Manchester, which is where I shopped in 489 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:52.519 the Arndale. Okay, it's fucking mass up. So I don't know where 490 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:55.320 he brought her. But because I could not tell you where the behind of 491 00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:00.760 it is, because there's like twenty different entrances. Is there build a bear 492 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:05.559 in that one? Yeah? I think I was there when I was younger 493 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:10.400 and I got a lamb and I called her Sally and if you pushed on 494 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:14.920 her, Tommy, it was like, I love you. But then obviously 495 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:20.519 the voice box started to die, was oh love you. Sally had to 496 00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:29.639 go love and it's like, nope, no, you don't. You're out 497 00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.639 of here. You don't love me. It's okay, just leave, Sally, 498 00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:36.880 just leave. It's not mutual. It's not me, it is you. 499 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.880 So he brings her behind the Arundale Shopping Center and began stabbing her even 500 00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:47.840 in the eye. It does that have been built a bear in it? 501 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:55.480 In the eye? Yep? Oh my god. Id a Rondo ten PM 502 00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.880 A student friend Jacqueline's purse and brought it home his room had been a police 503 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:07.679 officer in Hong Kong, and so he found a woman's purse. So he 504 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.639 found a woman's purse, and he his roommate used to be a police officer 505 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:17.239 in Hong Kong, and so he in his like, I suppose I'm going 506 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:22.760 to go out and away him and say innocent head brings it home and is 507 00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.559 like, hey, you used to be a police officer. What should I 508 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:31.239 do with this? I found it near the arndale, right, I don't 509 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:36.960 know. I guess you would. They're like. The roommate is like, 510 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:42.039 you should have left it there and just called the police. Yeah, but 511 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.440 he's like, but right, we'll call the police now, I guess. 512 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.960 So the police do a quick search of the area, but they never found 513 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:58.599 Jacqueline's body. The following morning, an employee at the Arndale found Jacqueline's body 514 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.000 and called nine one one. So she's just been very close. She was 515 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:08.079 thirty yards from where her purse was. But yet when police But when police 516 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:14.960 went searching, they never found her, even just being the person that picked 517 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.400 up the purse, knowing that she was only a few feet away from you. 518 00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.840 Literally, police told the press they had no reason to suspect it was 519 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:28.920 a ripper murder. Okay, you're the police. I trust you implicitly. 520 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.679 On November twenty fifth, nineteen eighty, police received a letter that said, 521 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:38.639 quote to whom it may concern, I'm writing to inform you that I have 522 00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:45.480 every good reason to believe I know the man you are looking for in the 523 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:52.760 ripper case. It is an incident which happened within the last five years. 524 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:58.519 I cannot give any date or place or any details without myself being known to 525 00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:04.400 the ripper or you. If this is the man, it is only until 526 00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:08.119 recently something came to my notice, and now a lot of things fit into 527 00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:13.039 place. I can only tell you one to do things which fit. For 528 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.920 example, this man has had dealings with sex workers and always had a thing 529 00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:24.039 about them. Also, he is a long distance lurry driver collecting engineering items 530 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:30.159 etc. I am quite sure if you check up on dates etc. You 531 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:37.719 may find something. His name and address is Peter Sutcliffe, five Garden Lane, 532 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:44.599 Heaton, Bradford. Police ignore this letter was that forever trying to do 533 00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:49.440 that make good? No one processed it until after Peter had been arrested, 534 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:59.719 and the letter was written none other by Trevor birdsall go tever, go forever. 535 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.280 I'm still not happy with you, though you could have done something earlier. 536 00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:09.000 He could have well, at least you did something at this point. 537 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:14.519 I honestly believe to begin with, it was a case of not my friend, 538 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:19.760 but your friend has you know, assaulted sex workers right in front of 539 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:23.000 you. He kind of is like, no, cot be him, like 540 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:28.480 he's a nice guy, he's loving with his wife, like no, and 541 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:34.119 then I think just things start to line up for him that he's like, 542 00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.679 shit, I think it is my friend. That's like when you come to 543 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.519 a sudden realization of something that happened in your childhood one day, when you're 544 00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.920 just sitting there and you're like, oh, this makes sense now, so 545 00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:53.880 this is why I'm traumatized. Yeah, yeah, I think it's well, 546 00:46:54.119 --> 00:47:01.760 he's like realizing that, like like he's gone for drinks with Peter, and 547 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:07.519 then that night a woman has been murdered, yes, you know, and 548 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:13.480 he's kind of going, yeah, that woman was murdered at like one am, 549 00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:17.239 and he dropped me home at like twelve am. M. Yeah, 550 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:23.079 you would get a little suspicios so, but no one processes the letter until 551 00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:30.719 after Peter is arrested. I find this amazing because it's like you have questioned 552 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.079 this man multiple times and now you have an anonymous letter being sent to you 553 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.639 being like, oh, I'm pretty sure it's him, and you're just like, 554 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.400 Eh, the letter. I don't even think the letter was opened. 555 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:46.239 I think the letter arrives in one of the many headquarters that was set up 556 00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:53.480 and it sits there. And the police's excuse was that they were receiving hundreds 557 00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.239 of tips at the time. Yeah, I'm sure they meant to get rented 558 00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.639 it after their coffee break. And it's like, yeah, you may have 559 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.239 been receiving one hundreds of tips at the time, but you should have looked 560 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:10.000 at every single one. Women were being murdered at like every few weeks. 561 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:15.599 Look, I'm not saying that, like it's one thousand percent the police's fault 562 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:20.360 that they never caught. Like, you know, they were receiving letters, 563 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.280 and they were receiving different things that were put pointing them in the wrong direction. 564 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:28.239 But at the same time, how many times does someone have to pop 565 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:32.440 up for you to take it as a serious, serious indication, Yeah, 566 00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:37.480 for you to take it as more than just a little quinky dink. Yeah, 567 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:42.760 Trevor then gave police an in person statement about his letter when he never 568 00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.800 heard back from the police, so he sent the letter in and then after 569 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:47.840 a little while he was like, I've never heard anything, and Peter still 570 00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.239 hasn't been caught yet, so he goes in to like give like an in 571 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:58.079 person statement, but once again police never followed up on the statement. Imagine 572 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.800 being Trevor, You're you're sending that letter, you don't hear anything, and 573 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.519 now you still have to go and be friends with Peter, like you'd be 574 00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:08.559 out for drinks like so sex workers. Huh, you should probably be stabbed, 575 00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:14.079 right right. You can't stop being his friend because then that's suspicious, 576 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:20.719 and so it's like the fuck. In December nineteen eighty a specialist had a 577 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:24.440 look at the letters and the audio police received. He believed that the letters 578 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:30.960 were not written by the ripper, but believed that he could identify the author. 579 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:37.599 He urged the police to release the letters and the like the full letters 580 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.280 and the full tape to the public, as he believed it would reveal the 581 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:47.679 author, but unfortunately nothing came from this. On January second, nineteen eighty 582 00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:52.280 one, Peter was out in Sheffield on the hunt when he saw twenty four 583 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:57.559 year old Olivia Reavers. Olivia was a sex worker and agreed to get in 584 00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:02.400 Peter's care. Peter began talking with Olivia about his life and his wife. 585 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:08.000 Olivia was urging Peter that she just wanted to get the job over and done 586 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:13.639 with, like if she hasn't seen him. She's like, can we just 587 00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:16.599 do what we gotta do and then I'll be on my merry way and you 588 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.159 can be on your merry way. Because she doesn't know he's about to kill 589 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:29.000 her. Yeah. This was when police pulled up beside Peter. Peter tried 590 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:34.239 to tell police that Olivia was his girlfriend. However, she had been arrested 591 00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.800 several times before for solicitation, so they were like, she's not your girlfriend. 592 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:46.119 We know your girlfriend? Yeah, like hi, Olivia, how are 593 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:53.000 you still sex working? I see? And he's like, no, no, 594 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:57.440 no, she's my girlfriend. She's like, oh, Brian, how 595 00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:01.400 are you as kids? Did your wife like that present you got her? 596 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.800 He's like yeah, thanks for the advice, and Peter said like, she's 597 00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:17.039 my girlfriend him with a wedding ring on. Oh god, yeah, oh 598 00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:22.039 god, good times, good times. Peter was also driving a car with 599 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:27.920 the stolen redge, because let's not forget Peter's license has been suspended for drunk 600 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:36.199 driving. Oh yeah, yeah. The pair were quickly arrested. Before being 601 00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.960 put in the back of the police care Peter asks if he can go pee 602 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:44.760 behind a bush and the officer is like, sure, whatever, whatever, 603 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:52.320 So he does and then he comes back and he's brought to the station and 604 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:59.440 Peter was questioned for hours about the stolen redge and the solicitation. Sonia was 605 00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.280 then in about the charges that he has been arrested on, which is a 606 00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:07.119 stolen car, dge and solicitation. So she's like, ah, hell's to 607 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:14.920 the he's out with a fucking sex worker. Yeah, And due to the 608 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:20.880 Ripper killings, anyone arrested in the Yorkshire area for the solicitation had to be 609 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:25.199 questioned in regards to the case. So if you were just caught with a 610 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:30.920 sex worker, you were interrogated about the ripper killings because they just had to 611 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:35.639 root like they just were like, can't take a chance. So the next 612 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:39.199 morning Peter was questioned on this and some of the things he was saying, 613 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:45.320 we're starting to like concern the officers. He was talking about how he used 614 00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:51.440 to own a white Cossair and how he had good hours being a lurry driver. 615 00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:57.880 Police began to remember the letter they received, and when they looked into 616 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.239 his name, they saw that he was a person of interest and had been 617 00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:07.440 interviewed many times, and they were like, wow, I wouldn't have seen 618 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.280 this one coming. Peter was on a first name basis with the police at 619 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.280 this stage. Though. Peter also had a rare blood type which had been 620 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:24.119 found at several crime scenes but was never made public, so nobody knew that 621 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:28.840 they had found blood, Like the public didn't know that there was blood found 622 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:32.440 at several of the crime scenes or was it from his his seamen? And 623 00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:38.000 no, there was one time he was in like a junkyard and he cut 624 00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:44.960 his hand on like a broken porcelain sink that was and like also left a 625 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.400 partial print in the blood as well. He is stupid. The officer who 626 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:57.239 arrested Peter was like this guy, Like what he's saying is weird, you 627 00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.079 know, because he's like, oh, yeah, I used to drive a 628 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:04.480 white car that you used to look for. And then he's like I have 629 00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:08.360 sweet hours being a lorry driver, Like I'm up and down the Yorkshire Roads 630 00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:14.559 and they're like, wait just a second, that's weird. And so the 631 00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:20.519 police officer was like, he went behind a bush before we arrested him to 632 00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:25.800 go pee. I let this man go behind a bush by himself before we 633 00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:31.320 brought him into the station to search him. I'm getting a weird feeling about 634 00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:37.280 the bush. So he's like, I'm just gonna go back and have a 635 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:44.960 quick snoopy snoop do do my job because this guy is weird. And so 636 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:51.039 he goes and he investigates and it's not long before the officer finds a hammer 637 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:59.280 and discarded in the area. What's the bush doing with those? Huh bush? 638 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.719 I'm gonna have to arrestue on plank this bush right now, it's coming 639 00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:07.880 with me. After a couple of days of being questioned, Peter just turned 640 00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:14.960 around and said, I think you're leading up to the Yorkshire Ripper. What 641 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:20.239 gives you that impression? He was asked. They were like, what about 642 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.840 the Yorkshire Ripper? And Peter leans back in his chair and he says that's 643 00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:30.880 me. Oh no, fuck you, fuck you so much. Oh my 644 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:34.960 god, that's so annoying, this fucking guy. Oh my god, just 645 00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.559 like look listen, you've been questioning me for a couple of days. Now 646 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:43.119 you're on the build and the up and up to mention the Yorkshire Ripper, 647 00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.559 he said, let me make it easy for you. And they're like, 648 00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:50.039 what about the Yorkshire us leading up? What about that? And he's like, 649 00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:57.960 it's me no, no, sir, I mean yes, but like 650 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:10.480 also to be so like you're looking at him like no, m It took 651 00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:17.159 Peter twenty four hours to make a full confession. Peter never sent any letters 652 00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:22.440 to police or the media, and it would not be until two thousand and 653 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:29.039 five that police learned who wrote those letters. A man by the name was 654 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:35.599 sorry. That made me think of Colleen Rooney, remember when she done that 655 00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:46.679 thing? Who was it again? Another wag Rebecca Verardy? And I know 656 00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:55.800 it's Rebecca Verdi because Rebecca Verdi coined she now owns the saying Wagatha Christie. 657 00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:07.000 Why who's ever using wag at the Christie? Rebecca Verdi? Because that's so 658 00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:12.000 when the trial was happening, everyone was calling it wag you know, like 659 00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:16.199 Agatha Christie. But like yeah, because it was all deed. Rebecca Verdi 660 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:22.280 do what she's been accused of, and so the media were like wage the 661 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:30.079 Christie and so she like patented it. Oh my god, that's embarrassing. 662 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:37.280 Oh but yeah, he's like it's it's Rebecca Verdie. The name of the 663 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:42.119 man that wrote the letters was John Humble. He sent the audio as well. 664 00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.679 He was arrested and he was sentenced to eight years in prison for derailing 665 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:57.480 the investigation and costing over one million pounds in like investigating like in resource that 666 00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.679 Peter wrote John a letter in prison telling him that the last three victims were 667 00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:07.320 John's fault. The woman John claimed to be the rippers first victim, which 668 00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:12.400 was Joan Harrison, I don't think I mentioned her name. That was the 669 00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:17.079 one that he was like my first victim, and it wasn't him. So 670 00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:22.400 Peter like wrote him a note and was like, I'm not gonna lie, 671 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.440 some of it is John's fault, like syn, but you derailed the investigations 672 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.719 so much so that they were looking for someone with a completely wrong accent. 673 00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.239 They were following leads that they should not have been following all because you were 674 00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:43.039 bored. Yeah, pretty much. But the absolute neck of Peter to be 675 00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:47.519 like those last three victims, they're on EU bloods on your hands John. 676 00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.079 No, Peter, you're just trying to like guilt your like guilt free, 677 00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:57.039 be guilt free, and pass it on to some of somebody else. Yeah. 678 00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:01.719 He also was like, you try to say that I killed Joan Harrison 679 00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:05.960 when I did not. That was not me. I don't know who done 680 00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:07.920 it, but I can't just tell you that it was absolutely not me. 681 00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:15.639 In two and eleven, DNA proved that a convicted sex worker named Christopher Smith 682 00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:22.159 was responsible for Joan's death. So, however, Christopher had died in two 683 00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:29.480 thousand and eight, so Christopher was another sex worker had maybe fought with Joan. 684 00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:36.280 Was Jonah sex worker? I'm actually not too sure it was that murder 685 00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:40.159 that I mentioned earlier anyway, that the letter the letters were mentioning. In 686 00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:43.880 one sense, it's great for the family because they know they know who actually 687 00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:47.079 done it, but it's also sad because that person was already dead by the 688 00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:52.280 time that they found out. And so justice. Yeah. On Monday, 689 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:57.480 January fifth, nineteen eighty one, the news was released that the Yorkshire Ripper 690 00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:02.360 had been arrested. Peter was charged with thirteen murders and seven attempted murders. 691 01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:09.039 Peter pleaded guilty, but was claiming he was deranged as God told him to 692 01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:15.320 kill the sex workers. Peter, just stop it, just say you hate 693 01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:17.800 women. To move on. Peter's defense team had a doctor talk to Peter 694 01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:27.239 eleven times and he testified that Peter was a paranoid schizophrenic. Peter's trial began 695 01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:34.159 on May fourth, nineteen eighty one. The defense went hired on the mental 696 01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:43.360 illness plea and had a second doctor confirmed that Peter had schizophrenic tendencies. However, 697 01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:49.239 the prosecution pointed out that it wasn't until Peter hired a defense team that 698 01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:53.760 he started to act a certain way, yeah, the prosecution. The prosecutor 699 01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:59.840 also pointed out that the doctors had prompted him to respond a certain way to 700 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:07.400 certain questions. Sonja, if you remember suffered schizophrenic tendencies when she had her 701 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:12.719 mental breakdown. Oh that's right, back in the early days, and Peter 702 01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:16.519 had been her career. Yeah, so he would know what to do. 703 01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:25.480 You would have seen, so he knew how to recreate those symptoms. The 704 01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:30.400 trial lasted two weeks. The prosecutor claimed, quote, he was a cold 705 01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:37.039 blooded, calculated murderer who has made this up because he wants to go to 706 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:42.960 the looney bin for ten years instead of thirty years in prison. After six 707 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:49.440 hours of deliberation, Peter was found guilty and saying. On May twenty second, 708 01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:54.719 nineteen eighty one, Peter was sentenced to life in prison. Peter bounced 709 01:01:54.760 --> 01:02:02.719 back and forth from Parkhurst Prison and hospitals for his schizophrenia. Sonia got a 710 01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:08.119 separation from Peter in nineteen eighty nine and officially divorced him in nineteen ninety four. 711 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:14.119 Sonia was awarded the house. Well, it's not like he's going to 712 01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:21.039 be using it. Peter was attacked many times in prison from other inmates. 713 01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:27.400 In nineteen ninety seven and inmates dabbed Peter in the left eye. Oh my 714 01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.239 god. So now he knows what it feels like. Yep. And at 715 01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:39.199 age seventy four, Peter Sutcliffe died on November thirteenth, twenty twenty from COVID 716 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:46.679 Bye bit jazz. Honestly, so there you go. Trevor birds All got 717 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:52.280 his redemption. He tried so hard to be like listen to me. Yeah. 718 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.039 The fact that it then want to police after I'm like, all right, 719 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:58.519 all right, you get away with it this time. Trevor but don't 720 01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.639 let me catch you again. Yeah, the prosecution were very much like, 721 01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:08.840 yeah, his wife suffered a schizophrenic attack, like you know, like she 722 01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:13.920 had a full on mental Like he knows what he's doing, he knows what 723 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:19.639 to say and how to act, and his whole thing was God told me, 724 01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:23.559 God told you jack shit, God's not talking to you, my friend. 725 01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:30.880 Definitely not you. To the women that survived Peter um, I think 726 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.199 it's heartbreaking that they had to be talked about in such a disgusting manner. 727 01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:40.360 H And as well for the victims that didn't survive, Like, I think 728 01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:51.320 it's so unfair to paint like Jane McDonald as a quote unquote innocent victim when 729 01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:59.760 they were all innocent victims. Yeah. Definitely watching like some I watched like 730 01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:05.800 two documentaries on it, and like one of them, one of the sons 731 01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:11.679 of one of the women that Peter murdered, Like, he gets so upset 732 01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:16.679 because he's just like, my mother was so much more than a sex worker. 733 01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:24.159 That's like to be to kind of pair anybody down to their just their 734 01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:29.840 job is ridiculous in the first place, but to do it just because they're 735 01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:35.480 a sex worker has it's like even more, there's something more evil about it. 736 01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:42.599 You know, they're really like he like bless his soul is like you 737 01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:45.079 know, like she was an amazing mother, Like she'd done everything for us, 738 01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:49.440 you know, like the job that she's not there for the love of 739 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:53.360 it, Like yeah, like he's like the job that she was out there 740 01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:59.000 doing was for us, Like it wasn't something that she chose to do, 741 01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:01.519 it was something she had to do. And then the fact that it was 742 01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:08.320 then twisted and turned against her, and when she was this loving, amazing 743 01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:15.400 person, yeah, you know when he's like and that's all the media ever 744 01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:21.239 knew or us And I believe it was if I have this correct. I 745 01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.519 didn't write it down, but I believe it was like something like two eighteen 746 01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:33.880 or twenty nineteen, the like Yorkshire Police released like an official apology for how 747 01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:39.639 police, because it wasn't just the media, it was police as well, 748 01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:44.639 where very much of the oh he's only killing sex work sex workers, like 749 01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:48.280 we'll catch him when we get him. And it wasn't until that he actually 750 01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:56.880 started killing just women, you know what I mean. Yes, but then 751 01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:59.440 they were like, oh shit, we better catch him, and they were 752 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:04.719 getting pressure to catch him for the murder of Jane. Yeah, and so 753 01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:09.719 like the Yorkshire Police were like, yeah, no, like it should have 754 01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:13.639 been a like it shouldn't have been a case of it was like uns only 755 01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:17.880 sex workers. No, of course it never should have been. But but 756 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:23.159 to be perfectly apologized, I'm glad they apologize. Put to be perfectly honest, 757 01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:26.360 I think it's still very much a thing, like it's still very much 758 01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:30.760 a there sex workers who are asking for it. No, no, it's 759 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:34.159 like they are. They haven't only fans. So they deserved for their nuts 760 01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:38.320 to be leaked around. They deserve to be here. They deserved abuse, 761 01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:42.719 And it's like no, no, no, nobody does. Nobody deserves that. 762 01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:46.639 Let's all treat each other just like fucking human beings. That would be 763 01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:50.840 fantastic. Actually, at the end of the day, my body's my body, 764 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:55.280 Your body is your body. What I choose to do with mine is 765 01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:57.599 none of yours, and what you choose to do with yours is none of 766 01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:02.719 mine. Yep. Anyway, that was a nice way to wrap up the 767 01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:06.840 three episodes. I'm very glad to be done with him. And it is 768 01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:14.199 an interesting case like it's it's interesting on how the media like it's interesting to 769 01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:17.800 me to look at how the media and how the police like handled it, 770 01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.800 you know, like it's to me like that's like, oh my god, 771 01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:26.320 what the hell. And then I'm like I need to know more. Yeah, 772 01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:30.639 kind of go down the rabbit hole. Yeah. So, if you 773 01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.800 really enjoyed this six episode, I'm sure you've already checked out part one and 774 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:39.400 part two, am and if you didn't, what's wrong with you? What 775 01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:44.519 the hell? But you can also check out Megan's episode that she'd done before 776 01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:48.920 we done part one and two, which once Matthew Hoffman The Tree Guy, 777 01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:58.679 which was Matthew Hoffman's weirdly obsessed with trees, weirdly obsessed with tree That's the 778 01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:02.400 second time I've used this point. I'm not even sorry. She will probably 779 01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:08.480 use it at least five more times. No shame, it's going nowhere. 780 01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:15.159 Yeah, and please make sure well if you can leave us a review on 781 01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:19.479 how you liked it, we would love that. If you have any suggestions, 782 01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:23.399 you can leave them in the comment section underneath the post. Any of 783 01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:29.600 our Instagram posts and a segue to do that. You can follow us on 784 01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:34.319 Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook all on give us more. 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