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partner Jakins. Also got our boy
Noah in the booth ready to help us

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through today. Welcome to Monday,
Welcome to the start of summer. Yesterday

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was one hundred thousand degrees. It
was de barely one hundredy big weenie,

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one hundred thousand. Don't forget that
thousand. It wasn't bet Yeah. I

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golfed on Saturday. It was beautiful. Yeah, but then hit yesterday.

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I'm not I'd rather be hot than
cold. Yeah. And today's little windy

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promise a little too windy. I
want to do. I want to spray

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some weeds in my yard yesterday and
thought they better not because then I,

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you know, float over to the
neighbor's house and they might get mad at

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me. They might kill those birds. Yeah. I don't want to kill

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their daughter. Yeah, what's going
on this weekend, anybody piss anybody off?

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No, well, you know what, Um, you know, I

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don't know if we mentioned it that
Bruce Pasco got an interview with Tommy Lloyd

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on on uh I think it was
on Friday or Saturday. He was at

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that string He was at that event
up in Phoenix and saw Tommy and got

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some time with him, which is
great. That's what that's why, that's

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why Bruce gets paid the big bucks. But um, you know, Tommy,

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you know, pretty pretty open,
seems pretty confident. But I thought

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in in the nicest way possible,
In the nicest way possible, Tommy Tommy

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Lloyd way, he told the fans
to shut the hell up about whether or

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not he's gonna have players that don't
stop him. I don't tell him the

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hell, you know. I go
back to some of these people who said,

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we demand to know who you're recruiting
and what's going on, Like they

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say that I heard. I saw
a couple of those that we had.

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We as fans have a right to
know what's going on in your recruiting.

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Shut why why? Exactly exactly,
But that that's entitled Arizona fan. So

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that's that's uninformed, dumb ass.
Well that yeah, you can say dumb

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ass. Okay, well that's exactly
what that. But that's the fan that

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we're that that we're dealing with.
That silly jay. Really you didn't see

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that. You didn't say no.
So I saw two or three of those

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that said he needs to tell us
what's going on. He's not telling us

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enough of what's going on. Could
you go back and find those and save

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him for me, because I want
to saved those names and say what the

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hell are you thinking when everything turns
out? Okay, and say because I

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know those people. I know some
of the people said, well he's not

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doing this. I've saved the names
to say no. Back in April,

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you were complaining about this and that, but now you're not complaining. Yeah,

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it was family said, you know, I've got season tickets and I

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have a right to know what.
You know what? You have a right

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to know the roster on day one
of practice. That's it. That's all

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you get. I guess what.
You don't have to buy season tickets,

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right, But this is if you're
not going to sleep at night because he

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doesn't tell you, right, Hey, you have other things to worry about.

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Yeah, but you know, um, I thought I thought. I

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thought Bruce asked a lot of the
questions that we would want to ask,

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you know, what's going on or
you know, Tommy said, I'm sleeping,

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well, I feel good about where
we are recruiting wise, you know,

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we're gonna have guys. Just relax
and and you know, and I

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thought that was good. Did he
hate the fact that's a loss for Princton?

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Absolutely? You know, was the
season of total failure? It was

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not, you know, I mean
he's happy about you know, what they're

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what they're doing as a program,
just all the things that you would expect

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Tommy to say, sure, and
that you and that you feel are sort

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of that's sort of but you know
that that's how it is. And I

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have to accept that. Please fighting
those those tell me, you know,

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because then I don't have to go
trolling through all that stuff again. And

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I don't know that I want to. I saw I saw tweets. No,

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maybe not. It might have been
on Facebook. I don't know if

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you have. I just remember seeing
that we have a right to know if

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you're getting players. I had a
friend here maybe ten twelve years ago and

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just just an acquaintance guy who's uh, he had that same attitude. My

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daughter goes to school there. I
contribute to the athletic department because my daughter

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goes there, and and this and
that, and I'm thinking, what doesn't

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have to do tea in China?
It just doesn't. Doesn't just because your

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kid goes there. None of that
money goes to the university athletic department.

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Right. If you're putting in that
money with that expectation, then then you

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need to either just stop putting in
that money so you don't have that expectation,

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or just realize you don't get that. I buy a Ford. No,

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I need to know what mister Ford
is doing right right exactly, you

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know. And so I I you
know again, I just I really I

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read it, and I'm like,
I'm kind of nodded my head as I'm

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reading. I'm going, you know, I'm glad. I'm glad Bruce got

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ahold of him, you know,
so that he you know, and that

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he uh, you know, got
time and you know what. I'm sure.

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Tommy was like, you know,
guys, I'm gonna talk to you

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because I want everybody to relax.
Sure, you know, sure, I

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mean, I don't know that he
needed to or or you know, or

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is required too. But I'm glad
he did. Um and and you know,

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if I don't know if that's settled
everybody or not. Probably not,

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probably because you know, he didn't
say I'm going after this guy or that

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guy or the other guy. But
he's basically said, you know, relax,

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I've I've got this. Yeah,
and and until he starts losing a

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bunch of games, you have to
believe that he's got it. It's like

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you remember, I re read my
story on Tommy Miller. Do you remember

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the time when up with uh Tarzuski
told Sean Miller relax that way, just

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relax, dude. What he lost
his mind? That was funny. I

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My head snapped from the scorers table. I'm like, God, there's something

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going on over there. It was
pretty funny. A great picture, though,

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great picture. That was pretty funny. Well maybe they'll maybe they'll relax.

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They will, No, they will, Yeah, you just contribute.

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I mean, I've I've been getting
getting some questions too about the Arizona Assist

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stuff because it's become a little we
had the guy on, we'll have them

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again in the future. Uh for
more clarity that the money will go to

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help the basketball program. Nowhere else
but the basketball program. So if you

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want to help there, and that's
probably the number one place because you you're

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talking about collaborations, you're talking about
those friends of that covers all the sports.

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What do you it's the same thing. It collaboratives, it's not it's

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not a collective. Neither one of
them is a collective. So what are

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they're neither They're just um, they're
like marketing arms there because you they cannot

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be involved, right because Adam Lazar
said specifically, we are not a collective.

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We are separate from the university.
We are marketing the players. We're

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giving the players an outlet too.
So they're not a collective that's collecting money

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to give to the program. What
they're doing is they're electing money. So

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that if you, as a business
want to want to get a player to

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come and endorse your company, they
can come and you can give money to

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that and they can come and do
that. Right, you know you're paying

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the kids, right, paying the
kids for their time, right, right

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that you can do that directly or
you know, these guys find opportunities and

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they have money to then pay them
to do it. Yeah, and that

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that's what that is. If you
are if you're curious, just go to

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the website looking more into it.
They have cool shirts. I was with

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them last week. They have cool
shirts, they have cool merchandise. Uh,

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they'll be on the show more often
down the road, just to clarify

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things for us, and maybe we'll
help out a little too. Yeah,

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you know, we're hell to help. We're you know, just kind of

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talk talk about this craziness. Everybody
you know loves Arizona. They wanted to

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see them succeed, so we'll see
it again. It's going to take more

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than buying tickets. Now, that's
the game, whether you like the game

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or not. You know, we
have all these will already buy tickets and

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I donate. Well, the game
has changed. It's it's more than that

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anymore. And so people have to
get used to the fact that there's more

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to it than you know, buying
your tickets. I buy put up over

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a thousand dollars on a Saturday,
you know, to get my to get

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my tickets and my tailgate paths and
my my chairback seat and all that stuff

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for this coming season. And you
know, I mean that's all I can

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do right now. But you know
I want to help more. And you

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know, if it means that I
contribute to one of these groups that helps

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with NIL and that helps Arizona get
players or keep players or whatever, then

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you know, I'll try to figure
out a way to do that back.

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And I'm sure that I'm sure that
Hekey does this. I'm sure that Greg

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did this all the time. Uh. The it's the front porch of the

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university. Uh. If if you're
not doing if you're not going ahead,

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you're falling back. What's the little
phrase they used. Uh, if you're

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not moving forward, you're falling back. You're in the same place. Guess

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what at every school, powerhouse school
is due is doing it, is doing

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it. If you want to stay
in the front, you have to continue

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or start doing it because just because
you're Arizona, like one of those guys,

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I don't get it. We're Arizona. We're a good place where a

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powerhouse. Okay that was that was
yesterday. Yeah, this is not your

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father's team anymore, not your father's
program anymore. Um, things change,

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and it's changed on a dime.
And yeah, it's changed in a hurry

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to get used to. It's like
I said, it's a whole different game

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today than just relax. Sure,
it reminds me of something that you know,

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I will tell you. I'll tell
you off the year. Okay.

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Cool. So a lot of stuff
in the NBA going on. The draft

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of went out. Arizona didn't get
anything. Anybody draft, but they've had

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two players signed and then a couple
other players have been invited to camps.

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Okay, what do you have you
have for breaking news? Do you have

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any of that? I know I
did not, so that is just say

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yeah, I save it for later. I don't know who they are,

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so you don't say, Okay,
you can track that down, Ye'll be

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that'll be breaking news to me exactly
exactly about the Boston Bruins. Oh I

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did. I don't follow hockey at
but I was I don't either, but

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I'm sitting there and all of a
sudden, my my phone is blowing up

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from the thread that you know,
the the young guys that I'm on who

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you know, who care? They
they care about hockey, soccer, NBA,

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they care about everything, and they're
like they're like the Bruins are gonna

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be a fraud they're about to lose, and then then they're like, okay,

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they're up three two, it's all
good. And then all of a

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sudden, somebody says, holy cow, and I go and I so,

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I finally changed the channel, and
I saw that. I saw that,

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Um, the game got tied inside
of a minute, goes to overtime,

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and the Bruins lose with the best
record ever in the NHL, right right

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ever, and then the defending champs, the defending champs get beat by our

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boy dougs the cracking or what the
cracking. If you're happy, if you're

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a sober, give us a call. But you know, immediately I saw

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that that the Bruins losing completed the
set for teams that set the all time

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wins record in their regular seasons in
the NFL, which was the Patriots going

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sixteen and oh, the NBA the
year that the Warriors went seventy two and

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ten, UM, the year that
the Mariners won one hundred and sixteen games,

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and now the Bruins with the best
record ever in the NHL. None

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of those four teams the year they
they set those records won their championship.

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Also, it's also like in hockey
well, I mean in basketball, do

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you think about it? Which how
many? How I was the last time

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like a team with the best record
won the championship? Yeah, same with

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like hockeys. All four teams from
the four major sports that set records for

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wins did not win their cham The
one exception for this is is not exception.

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It's just different. Uh. This
is like the everyone's first round game.

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Right, you get one chance that
right? In these others what you

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get seven? Right? Well that's
seven. You can kind of work yourself

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through stuff, right, That's what's
crazy. Then again, the best record

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in the NBA this year went out
in the first round. The best record

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in the NHL went out in the
first round. Sow you played that day?

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Wow? And in those cases for
a week. For it took the

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Bucks less than a week. It
took it took the Bruins a full week

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plus. They were up three one. Yeah, they're up three one with

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two of the remaining three games at
home, and they lost And they lost

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all three games, right, right, And you have to have your key

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players like Jannis was out a game
or two, right, who else was

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out? For other the Lakers are
okay? Uh? Dream Morat was out

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for the last few games of his
troubled time. So, but I would

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like the series. Now it's gonna
be the Warriors and Lakers. That should

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be a lot of fun. You
see that in the in the in the

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NBA playoffs, there's a one through
eight. There's eight teams left, and

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there's one through eight seeds left right, the first time it's ever happened.

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Yeah, yeah, five and five
five upper seeds or kind of playing through

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the through. No, it's gonna
be fun. Wide open. Man.

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I was wondering about the ticket prices
for that Warrior, um the Warrior Lakers

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or is it the hockey or is
it hockey? I know that the Warriors,

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the basketball is upper Yeah, upper
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the first time in forever. All
right, that's right. There's sixteen teams

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left, right, because there's there's
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only eight teams left, four each
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yeah four ye in the seventh Yeah, okay, Conference semifinal, Okay,

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whatever? Should it should be fun. The Nuggets have played tonight, right,

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no, tomorrow they playing night and
the Boston the Washington. I'm not

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telling anything there come on, see
you tell me who you got so I

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can take them. Come on,
when you texted me yesterday, I did

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not bet the Warriors, so I
jumped on even more. The Celtics have

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bumped up to a ten point favorite
with them beat Joel and beating Yeah,

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and then the Nuggets are four point
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Oh, let me tell you.
Oh, get a minute, We're gonna

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get a call from Mugg. Let's
get to our guys. I'll talk about

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this thing on the other side.
Okay, So Dennis Benet, who was

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he was He was b John Robinson's
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with him at the dre after last
week. So Dennis is going to come

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on and just talk about that experience. And then Heather Moore Martin, who

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won her third straight beach volleyball state
championship at south Point, she'll be joining

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us to talk about getting another one
of those. And you know, oh

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hum right, they're just you're just
coming along, just keep piling up state

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championships. But anyway, so Dennis, we're kind of all south Point all

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the time for her, for our
two guests. But Dennis Benet, who

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was as I said with Pejon Robinson
at the draft, and we'll just talk

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about how that went and how much
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I'm alongside partner Jaken Dallas now and

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if on we have Dennis, one
of the great high school coaches from our

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past at South Point. Now he's
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in a little bit. But Dennis, how are you. I'm doing well.

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Yeah, doing well. Good to
be on your show. I appreciate

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it. Yeah, we've been with
us before. Great to talk to you

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again. How was how was the
weekend? You probably had a lifetime of

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a lifetime thing that you've never done
before, and how fun was it?

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Yeah? It was a great time, first class experience for sure, and

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to be able to share with Beijean
and his family was just once in a

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lifetime, very very fortunate, very
blessed to have had the opportunity. So,

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Dennis, this is Jay, So
just tell walk us through. You

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know, just you know, you
got there, you you know where you

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went, who you saw, what
you were able to do, hanging out

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with Beijean at the at the draft. Yeah. So, um, kind

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of the headquarters was the Lows,
Kansas City and kind of all the players

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were there and all their agents and
staff and things like that. And then

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um, yeah, I had breakfast
Bijean every morning, which was nice.

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And then of course draft day he
had a lot on his plate and so

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I hung out a lot with his
grandfather, Cleo, and uh sure enjoyed

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my time with him. And then, um, the draft day, we

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all headed up to the Union station
and a very first class event, really

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well run, and I get to
spend some time with Stan Drayton, who

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recruited Bijean out of Texas. And
then you know, the draft went by

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pretty quick and we all headed out. Bijean probably had another hour of things

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to do, and then we went
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It was John's family and will Anderson's
family, and that was a neat

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experience and uh we stayed there at
about about one in the morning, celebrating

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and uh and ended ended a great, great day for sure. What you

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know, we're all older dudes,
nothing really phases us. But I'm sure

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you were starstruck by someone that you
were able to meet her. Uh yeah,

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I think the neatest thing was we
came Bijean, I came down the

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elevator and kirk Curve Street was there, and uh, I was that was

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probably, um, for me,
really really great experience to meet meet him

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and talk with him. He thinks
so highly of Beijeon, and and of

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course you watching college football every Saturday
and and seeing Herbie there listening to him,

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it was that was really a neat
moment to meet him and speak with

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him. And then I was fortunate
to run into Mark Stoops, who I've

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known for a long long time.
He was there with his quarterback Will Levis,

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So that was nice to see Mark
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so you're I'm assuming you were sitting
in the green room with him and with

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the family and all that waiting for
the he was being drafted. Yeah,

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I was actually kind of right next
door and um, just just outside and

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um and uh the green room was
was very very nice. His family,

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his agent, I was there.
And then as soon as he got drafted

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though, he came out and coach
Drayton and I gotta gotta meet with him

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and um, and it was funny
because he was right in front of all

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the Atlanta Falcon fans and so it
was quite a scene there. They were.

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They were really excited, of course
to have Bijeon selected to their team,

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and like I said, and then
we um, we all got whisked

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off to the back to the hotel
and m and then kind of some things.

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You know, we're taking place for
Bijeon, and and we went off

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to dinner and just had a wonderful
night. So it was very universally thought

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that he was going the first round. But did he appear nervous at all

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to you? Or was he just
kind of like, you know, it's

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gonna happen, so I'm not gonna
worry about it. I mean, how

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how was he taking that? Because
I you know, I mean, is

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he nervous about where he's gonna go? Is he nervous about if he's going

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to go in the first round?
I mean, did you get a sense

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of what was going through his head
waiting for the draft? Yah? Know,

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he was very calm and um,
you know, just took everything in

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stride. I think for him,
the way he's seen things, there's a

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tremendous blessing for him to be there
and even have the opportunity. But now

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he really wasn't nervous. He was
you know, he's so recognizable and and

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so forcing the lobby of the hotel. Um, you know, there was

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a few fans that that we're in
there, and he was very um,

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very good you know at at um
giving autographs and making pictures with fans and

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things, and I think he was
pretty very relaxed throughout the day. I

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think as I got closer he got
a little nervous. He came down all

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dressed up and did some kind of
like we did some pre draft photos and

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things, and I think at then
he could sense that he was, you

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know, getting getting anxious because it
was, you know, it was he

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was just about an hour away,
two hours away from being drafted. But

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overall he handled things, uh,
you know, in true Bajohn fashion,

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just with class and took everything in
stride, handled it like a like a

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real professional. So you had him
for a number of years right at South

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Point when't do you remember when the
first time you saw him play and you

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said, hmm, this guy could
be special. Yeah, we chatted about

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that, and I thought it was
his sophomore year he had a really big

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time run and really catapulted him into
I think stardom. But it was actually

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as freshman year. We were at
Sunnyside and he had a long run down

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the less left sideline and made a
couple of cuts. He's a stiff arm

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broke a tackle and we were laughing
and he was like, no, coach,

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I was just a freshman, and
you know he was amazing, you

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know, for us for four years. And you know the thing I tell

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everybody is he just went through the
process. He was a great teammate,

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very very bright on the football field
as far as football IQ and and learning

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the playbook and just was able to
catapult his career at South Point Um into

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another level. Well, well,
you just reeled off a bunch of you

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know, the things and the qualities
that you know people have been uh,

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you know, saying about him.
But is there one of those things that

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kind of sticks out as to the
reason he is you know who he is,

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and that you know he's got a
chance of being, you know,

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a huge star in the NFL.
Yeah, I mean obvious, there's a

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number of characteristics he has possesses.
But he's very, very competitive and he

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has this um. He's very confident, but very quiet confidence. You know,

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in all of our really the games
against our toughest competitors, beach On

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always played really well. He never
shies from competition. He loves to work

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and so I think for him,
it's just that confidence that he knows he

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can do it, and his ability
to work and go through the process and

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ultimately prepare, which gives him the
opportunity to perform at the highest level.

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He's just um has always prepared and
then followed up with a great performance.

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Yeah. So this very dumb question, but have you tasted his mustard and

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have you driven in his cart and
everything and everything else he's done. Yeah,

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now, I'll tell you we um. I actually have not have the

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mustard yet, probably embarrassed to say
that, but I know that as soon

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as he got drafted, I think
there was a thousand bottles, like limit

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edition with black and red kind of
Atlanta Falcons colors went out for sale or

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whatever, and you know, I
think those went like hotcakes. So that's

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been a very very neat venture for
him off the field, and you know,

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I think he just, you know, he has fun with it,

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and he allows him to engage with
with his fans and the people in the

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community, and he's going to be
a huge hit in Atlanta. You know,

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he's just so engaging with people,
and I know he's excited to be

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down there. You know, he
flew out the day after the draft to

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Atlanta, and I know he had
a wonderful time meeting the people in the

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organization there. So as you know
as a running as an NFL running back,

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now, I mean what, you
know, what do you see what's

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going to make him really really good? Well, his versatility is I think

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second to none, and I you
know, I think Atlanta recognizes that.

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You know, he's obviously tremendous between
the tackles. He makes guys miss in

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space, and I still don't think
people realize how good of a ball catcher

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00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.839
he is. I mean, he
has elite hands and so I think,

408
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.559
um, you know, they can
put him in space, move him around,

409
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:47.160
create matchup problems, and he'll be
very difficult on NFL linebackers have to

410
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:51.680
defend him in the past game.
So he's very versatile. He can be

411
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.000
used all over the field and I
just think it, you know, the

412
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.200
falconsault. You know what tremendous value
he's going to bring on the field.

413
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:04.079
He's just not a uh, you
know, cookie cutter type player. You

414
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:08.319
know that he can play multiple positions
and he's gonna be Um, he's gonna

415
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:11.519
be a huge asset to their offense. Yeah, no question, whenn't they

416
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.359
drafted him? I thought that Tom
they didn't need to get him, but

417
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.839
they wanted him because they knew that
he was the best player that could do

418
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.240
a lot of different things for them, specifically, because when you don't need

419
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.279
that type of player, but you're
gonna go but you can't get what Yeah,

420
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.039
they're saying, well, how can
we do not get this guy?

421
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:32.920
Yeah, I would agree with you. And I mean there was there.

422
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:38.079
Listen, there's so many talented kids
there and and uh above him that you

423
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:44.480
know, the seven that got drafted
above him or tremendous and then obviously those

424
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:48.359
that followed. But you know,
yet he brings so much value off the

425
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.000
field into the locker room. He's
always a great teammate. He's gonna be

426
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.680
tremendous to that organization in the community, and I think, um, I

427
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:02.799
think that's really you know, they
got the entire package when they drafted Dijon,

428
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.400
and you know, I think that's
why they pulled the plug or pulled

429
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.759
the trigger so early, was that
you know, you're not getting just a

430
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.599
running back. You know, you're
getting a kid who's who's ready to be

431
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.880
a professional, and he'll have a
huge impact on and off the field,

432
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:23.039
and I don't know that you can
put a price on that. Okay,

433
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.279
his effect he's gonna have in a
community, et cetera. Yeah, we

434
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.359
can change gears just a bit.
I know that you've been out at that

435
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.240
point for a little while now,
but you've been back in a school and

436
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:36.680
that looks like you're having another reunion
at that school with a bunch of coaches.

437
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.079
Yeah. Yeah, So Al Alexander's
a head coach at the saw Old

438
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:48.200
High School, Tucson Sword and he
was my assistant head coach for about ten

439
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.920
years at South Point and just a
tremendous coach. Helped a lot of kids

440
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.160
get to the next level. And
so I was very happy that he stepped

441
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:02.920
out and took the head coaching job. And yeah, so he he called

442
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:04.720
me, and I was just,
uh, it was time for me,

443
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:08.440
you know too, in a different
role. It fits what I'm doing now.

444
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:14.119
And um and then uh so we've
got a great staff. He's done

445
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.480
a really good job. Cameron Denson's
over there, you know, one of

446
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:22.200
my former great players, an ex
Wildcat, and um, Jay Dobbins is

447
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.000
back helping out. He's a sorel
great and uh, you know it was

448
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.359
recently the head coach at tank AVERTI. So you know, I think Al's

449
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:33.079
doing a really great job at building
a staff that can help him and support

450
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.880
him and teach those kids. You
know what it what it takes to to

451
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.440
win and um and compete at a
high level. So you know, you

452
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.839
do a job like that, and
there's a lot of guys that you know,

453
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:47.599
Jay's been a head coach, You've
been a head coach, a lot

454
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.480
of guys like that. How how
do you pull all that together in terms

455
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.480
of you know, how does everybody
contribute? I guess and uh and still

456
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.839
you know, allow Al to be, you know, the head coach.

457
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.319
Yeah, and I think we've we've
been around each other for a long time

458
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:07.480
and obviously those guys were worked for
me at South Point, so we know

459
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:12.440
each other well. And I think
you know, you check, you leave

460
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.799
your ego at the door. You
know, Al's the head coach and uh,

461
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.400
you know he's a great, great
friend, um, and but you

462
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:24.039
respect his title in his position.
Ultimately, UM, the buck stops with

463
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.359
him. I don't need to be
the front guy anymore. Jay doesn't need

464
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.400
to be the front guy anymore.
You know, I was at head coach

465
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.359
for nineteen years, and um,
we had a heck of a run,

466
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.640
and so we're you know, you
just your job is the best of your

467
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:44.519
ability. He knows, Al is
confident that we uh will be prepared and

468
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.279
then we can teach those kids at
a high level. And it gives him

469
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:51.720
a lot of it takes it just
takes stuff off his plate. And um,

470
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.599
you knows, as you know,
being a head coach you have you

471
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:59.400
have a lot of responsibility off the
field, and so so he doesn't have

472
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.200
to worry about us on the field
because he knows we'll get the job done

473
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:05.079
for him. I know you've been
back now this will be your second year.

474
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.720
But when you find when you left
South Point, did you say,

475
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:09.039
Okay, I'm done, I'll see
you later, I'll see it in the

476
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:13.720
review mirror, or did the juices
start flowing quickly and you said I got

477
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:19.000
to get back. Yeah. That
it was a little mixed bag of feelings.

478
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.160
I mean, I just was,
like I said, I was at

479
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.200
South Point for twenty one years and
and I enjoyed Uh, I enjoyed it.

480
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.359
Man, it was a great,
great run. But I needed to

481
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:36.240
step away and and just take a
break. And I think a couple of

482
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.880
years, um, you know,
I was able to kind of catch my

483
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:45.119
breath. And and now I'm in
a position where, uh, you know,

484
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.079
Alt asked me to come out earlier
and I and I never did.

485
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:51.839
I kind of kept turning them down. And then I went out to one

486
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.319
practice and I told my wife,
I said, listen, I think I'm

487
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:57.960
gonna help all out, maybe a
one or two days a week. And

488
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.519
then it one or two days is
turned into seven, you know, and

489
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.559
so the next thing, you know, she's like, oh man, you're

490
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.440
back at it again. And I
just kind of, you know, I

491
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.320
smiled, and I said, it's
just Al and I get along so well.

492
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:13.199
We worked so well together. I
really enjoy being around him and being

493
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.320
around those kids. They're they're a
great group of kids. So yeah,

494
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:22.760
it's been fun. She must really
love you. Yeah, yeah, it's

495
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.840
as usual. Thank you very much, congratulating on everything. That's right.

496
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:29.400
Well, I appreciate it. Thank
you so much for having me. Keep

497
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:36.679
up the great work and all the
best. You guys appreciate you know it.

498
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:42.719
It's great because you know, guys
like that's when you realize that you

499
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.280
know, they were doing that stuff
because they loved showing that stuff. Right.

500
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.880
They weren't in it for whatever,
you know, a little check you're

501
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.880
gonna get from the school because they
don't get paid a lot. You know

502
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.800
that there's they do that because they
have a great time with it and they

503
00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:00.280
just passionate, want to keep going
and it's it's awesome. So yeah,

504
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:01.679
okay, and they never got ad
You see that photo. They had a

505
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:07.719
bunch of dudes. There's a whole
bud. Don't go through that guy good,

506
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.320
I mean, just nuts, just
dude name dude. Yeah, yeah,

507
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.360
So Sorrel might be back sometimes.
Okay, you take us to break

508
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:15.199
there, Noah, all right,
man, let's get out of here.

509
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This is I on the Wall with
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554
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Sports sporteen fifteen. Hey, welcome
back toy on the About Gerald Fox Sports

555
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fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve, He's
Jake, got a boy ja Noah,

556
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:43.800
Noah. Lets you know it today
on a Monday, Um, I was

557
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:45.719
gonna was good tuck to coach put
it. We really don't tuck to them,

558
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.599
maybe much, but you know see, I'm gonna tuot our horn here

559
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.960
for a little bit because one of
the great things that we do is that

560
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:57.880
you know that we're you know,
we'll have high school coach and we'll have

561
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:01.880
high school athletes, pe mccollege,
Um, you know, just community people

562
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:07.480
come on this show because I don't
know that how many shows do that,

563
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.920
right, you know, you know, uh, none here and I think

564
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.079
you know, to give you know, coaches like you know Dennis Benet,

565
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.480
Heather Moore, Martin who's coming on
later, Um, you know, the

566
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:22.039
the all the you know, the
Jay Dobbins, and you know we've had

567
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.840
you know, any one of a
number of local coaches. And it could

568
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:28.639
be any sport, right, it
doesn't have to be football, doesn't have

569
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:31.679
to be basketball. It's beach,
volleyball, golf, it's tennis, whatever,

570
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:36.039
all the all the various coaches that
you know at the other sports at

571
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:37.639
the OVA that you know they get
to come on our show and get to

572
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.639
talk about themselves because we know they
love to do that. You know,

573
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:45.800
they love to have people here about
what they do. You know, you

574
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.840
don't have to be tied through the
program to know about it. You can

575
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.360
listen to our show and you can
hear some of that stuff. So I

576
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.079
want to you know, bend break
my arm and Pattison the back a little

577
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.039
bit because I think it's one of
the one of the cool things that we

578
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.400
do. Okay, I agree with
you. We give a forum to talk

579
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.039
about stuff like that. Yeah.
In fact, who's our gifts in the

580
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.920
second hour? Well, I've had
their more Martin U. South Point Beach

581
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:10.239
Volleyball coach won their third straight state
championship. Um, you know, and

582
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.480
I mean, you know, her
program was the one that kind of started

583
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.760
beach volleyball in Tucson. So you
know, they've gotten it going and they're

584
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.440
really good at it, and she's
good at it, and so you know,

585
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.280
give her an opportunity to come and
talk about her team. And you

586
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.760
know who you know, these players, I mean, they don't even get

587
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:29.639
in the paper anymore, right because
you know, the paper has gotten so

588
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.920
small. So this is kind of
the only way for for people to find

589
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:37.079
out some of the great things that
some of these other programs are doing in

590
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.239
Tucson. Yeah, you know,
we'll get the you know, um Pema

591
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:45.239
Pema golf. You know a boy
A men's golf won the division regional championship

592
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:50.000
again. You know, we'll you
know, we'll get we'll get Marcus Smith

593
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.480
on the show, their coach,
you know, who's like twelve years old.

594
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.000
He'll come on, come on and
talk about you know, his team.

595
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.360
So I love doing that shock nut
shop that he's doing so well we

596
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.440
do that. I want to have
a conversation with you about about the Suns.

597
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.800
Can they play in Denver? It's
gonna be tough to win up in

598
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.480
Denver again for Game two, but
they'll probably play better. And I think

599
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:14.320
they what happened, but what happened
on Saturday? Right they put on Saturday

600
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:20.559
um or Friday? Uh? Was
they had to POUM pissed off? M

601
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.519
DeAndre Aden. You saw he got
some serious dude, did you see that

602
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.519
video? I saw that play.
I was watching the game. What are

603
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.159
you doing? I was watching the
game. But he's gotten that criticized him

604
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.960
pretty much all so he's a watcher, not a going game. He isn't

605
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.639
aggressive enough, and um, we'll
see if that kind of pushes him.

606
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:43.559
But a lot of people he's like
that polarizing guy. You'd either like him

607
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:45.840
or you don't like him, and
a lot of people don't because he's not

608
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:51.039
aggressive that whole I mean, I
gets somebody said, well that's you know,

609
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:54.760
ten seconds out of his whole season. Well, how many other times

610
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:59.000
did he do that? And how
didn't get caught you know on a viral

611
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.960
video ten seconds moments? Right,
how many of those have there been?

612
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.039
You know, and to get caught
in a playoff game just kind of standing

613
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.960
there. You know, I don't
know if he was gassed or what,

614
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.320
but it was like, yeah,
I don't know, you know, you

615
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:16.440
can't, you can't do that.
What was the number one thing here?

616
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:21.880
He just didn't play motivated while or
time he took time off, you know,

617
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:23.880
you would take time off in a
game or for an entire game.

618
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:29.679
And that was the knock on him
here. And now this thing comes out

619
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.920
that is going to be really hard
to shake. Ever. Right now he's

620
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:37.599
got to come in and play very
hard against against Denver tonight. I think

621
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.239
you will, because you know,
you got to pot almost a pride him

622
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:44.639
and poke him to do this.
And that was pretty pretty evident, yeah,

623
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:45.880
you know, because it was out
there. Yeah, I mean just

624
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:51.400
uh, you know, certainly all
of a sudden, I mean, because

625
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.079
look, everybody's been saying the Sun's
you know, their favorite. Yet I

626
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:58.079
throw I throw my money on the
Nuggets right now, you're not going to

627
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:02.159
since you already had. I'm not
gonna jinx you. But you know,

628
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.719
if I if you said, you
know, pick the winner of this series,

629
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.639
I would say, you know,
nuggets in five or six. Yeah,

630
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:14.800
because you just felt like almost like
more of their guys wanted a whole

631
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.000
lot more. It's a different thing
that Murray Murray hadn't played the last couple

632
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.880
of years and people saying, well, Denver, Denver is gonna do what

633
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.000
Denver does. Well, Murray was
involved the last couple of years, and

634
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.559
the dude can play. Yeah,
it's funny. You know, you don't

635
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:30.960
see these guys very often until the
plaoffs Murray Fox from Sacramento fantastic. But

636
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:36.320
then the King, the King shows
up. Yeah, and he does it

637
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.360
with style. Uh when did you
read the article about his pregame speech.

638
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:45.360
No, it was a great article
because you know my Steph Cray. Yeah,

639
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:50.440
it was in the Athletic Um and
what what it was was that you

640
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.760
know, basically says Steph Cray doesn't
do that. He's not the speech giver.

641
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:57.960
You know, he's more of a
guy that that. Uh, you'll

642
00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:59.920
go up one on one with a
guy, say hey, look, you

643
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:05.519
know, but that um um he
It's a great story, but it goes

644
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:08.280
on. It talks about how Steph
Curry could not sleep and all of a

645
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:13.599
sudden, um um um. What's
his name, M. Draymond Green texts

646
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.719
him, texted him like at four
o'clock in the morning, and they were

647
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.360
both awake and they started talking to
each other and Draymond said, I need

648
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.280
to talk to the team, and
Steph Curry said, I got this.

649
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:27.000
I'm going to talk to him,
and then he had he gave this speech

650
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:31.519
that it was. It was the
players took it in the way that you

651
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:37.519
would hope they would because he doesn't
give those speeches, so it was meaningful

652
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:42.880
because it doesn't ever happen. And
he basically said, if you're not on

653
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.920
board, you know, to go
do this, then don't even get on

654
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:52.039
the bus. Is banksy what he
said? And apparently they all took it

655
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.280
to heart and went out and you
know, beat the hell out of those

656
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:59.599
guys and won that game. But
it's a great story just talking about how

657
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:07.119
that's not that's not Steph Curry's character
to give the talk that he gave to

658
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:10.519
try and get his team to play
that it was it was unusual, and

659
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.440
what the reason that it worked was
because it was unusual. So it was

660
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.880
very cool. Yeah. Yeah,
Like I said, you have hunting back

661
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:22.079
people who aren't too young, don't
nobody if he talks, he got hunt

662
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:24.639
and talks people listening, you know, he was you know, and so

663
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:29.000
and it was you know, when
when you've got a guy like that on

664
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.400
your team, who's, as you
said, the king, right, one

665
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:36.360
of the top ten players ever in
the NBA, and all of a sudden

666
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:42.000
he's giving you this impassioned plea to
do everything you can to win the next

667
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.280
game. How do you not you
know, how do you not? Sure?

668
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:46.840
Sure? Of course, because you
respect the hell out of him,

669
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:50.679
right right, and you want him
to respect you right right. No,

670
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.320
No, we had, we had, we had Harvey Mason on. It's

671
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.159
a lot like Steve. When do
you play for Steve? It's back and

672
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.679
forth. You don't want to disappoint, You don't want disappoint, and if

673
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:02.960
you don't, he'll respect you because
you because you didn't him. Yeah.

674
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.760
Absolutely, yeah, I thought it
was really it's a great article. It

675
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:08.519
was in the Athletics Look for a
couple of different people wrote it, you

676
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:12.559
know, wrote the same thing.
I'm presuming he talked about it in the

677
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.719
Prescot, but in the Athletic story
was kind of an in depth story about

678
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:19.199
it, you know, when and
talk to Daymond Green talked to some other

679
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:23.519
players about doing that and how meaningful
it was that he picked the perfect time

680
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:28.440
to do that because it wasn't looking
good for them. You know, you

681
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:30.639
lose at home in game six.
Now you got to go on the road

682
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:36.000
and win game seven. You've been
a terrible road team all year long.

683
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:40.239
You had to do something special,
on something different to let me ask you.

684
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:44.280
You have five minutes, anybody want
to call and get us a sneak

685
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:46.480
calling. So I was in a
discussion before the game yesterday and and guy

686
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.880
said, well, Charles, Charles
Barkley has never been right since like in

687
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.320
college general, I can't remember he
picked up Sacramento of the Legs. It's

688
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:58.320
an early game. The old guys
don't won't be ready. I'm taking come

689
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.760
on, really, And it's not
that they've been there before. Sacramento hadn't

690
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:06.639
been before. And I don't even
believe in that. I just Golden State

691
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.760
when pressed, when pressed to show
who they are, they're gonna show up.

692
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:14.719
As who they are, right and
and did you believe at all youth

693
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.480
versus experience. No, I think
what I what I thought it was was

694
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:24.199
that, you know, uh,
Golden State just has they have the best

695
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:29.639
players. Okay, you know they
may not have a team have shown that,

696
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:31.440
but they were gonna put the best
team on the court, and so

697
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:35.280
all they had to do was do
what they were capable of and they were

698
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.280
gonna win the game. The question
is where they're gonna do what they were

699
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.880
capable of, because they didn't do
it the week, the day, you

700
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:44.840
know, the game before. So
whatever happened, you know, they didn't.

701
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.880
They didn't beat They didn't beat Sacramento
at home when you feel like they

702
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:51.440
should have. So all of a
sudden, you don't know if they're gonna

703
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:52.719
show up. So I could see
where Charles said, you know they're not

704
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.840
gonna show up, but they did. No, Yeah, and you knew

705
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.280
they were gonna show up. You
knew they were. I mean, they

706
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.000
played well. Thompson was horrible in
the first half. He was like four

707
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:06.480
two for thirteen or level. And
they still would right, right, And

708
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.119
that's what you texted. I didn't
bet on it. I think fantastic,

709
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:14.440
And I said, they played really
close without him playing well, right,

710
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:20.199
and and other guys. Ludy was
fantastic. Other guys stepped up. Imagine

711
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.559
if Thompson would have played very well, which I think he will eventually.

712
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:25.920
This team has still kind of special. I don't think they're gonna win it,

713
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.159
but they're still very special. You
have to do a lot to knock

714
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.519
these guys off. You do you
do because because again for the most for

715
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.159
the most part, they're gonna have
the better team on the floor. So

716
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.679
so you got to do something extraordinary
to beat that, and especially to beat

717
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:44.679
him in a seven game series,
and when all the pieces fit for one

718
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:49.840
game, and that's what it was. Watch out, Watch Out a Sacramento.

719
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.199
These kids is an up and comer
and team. Though they need more

720
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.280
helped near the basketball, they'll be
fine. The team that I saw yesterday

721
00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.280
with the Golden State, Yeah,
yeah, we'll beat the Suns and we'll

722
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.280
beat the Nugget. Yeah. I
don't know. I don't know about that.

723
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:05.800
So we'll get there. We'll get
there. They got to get past

724
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:07.800
the Lakers. I think that'll happen
in six or something. But we'll talk

725
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:12.880
when that happen. Definitely. Um, it should be fun because you don't

726
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:17.840
know because you know, uh so
it'll be fun. It'll be fun.

727
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.079
I'm not even paying attention to the
East, which I maybe should't, but

728
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.199
but I like, well I like
Denver and Golden State, so we'll see.

729
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:28.760
Yeah, yeah, okay, what
else? Anything else? You know?

730
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.639
Baseball? Did you watch baseball?
You ate baseball? Holy moly,

731
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.400
I happened after the game. I
kind of started flipping channels yesterday and I

732
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.199
caught them. They had a two
point two run lead in the eighth and

733
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:43.079
they were they were grinding it,
they were gonna win it, and then

734
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.559
they lost. They lost the lead, and then they got it back and

735
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:51.119
then blew it again. I'm taking
holy crap. I mean, either they're

736
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.039
snake bit, they just don't have
the talent or whatever. But it's just

737
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:58.519
unsteady. They got swept by Oregon
State, which is not a bad program,

738
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:02.280
but they've had them, they've had
them. They yeah, they they

739
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:05.920
You feel like they've been playing well
enough to win, but then they just

740
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.039
don't win, just just don't win. And that happens, you know,

741
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.199
when you just don't know how to
win. There are times when you just

742
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.880
don't win. You just don't.
Yeah, I agree with you. I

743
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.760
agree with you. And it's you
know, and the thing is that it's

744
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:21.920
it's it's a thing that's both both
softball and baseball are going through the they

745
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:25.159
just haven't had the clutch pitching that
they've needed, you know, softball kind

746
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:28.639
of you know, they had a
nice weekend, you know, win two

747
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.320
out of three, put themselves in
a position to not get a horrible seat

748
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:36.119
in the Pac Puff Tournament. Maybe
they can still get into the NC Double

749
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.559
A's, but just you don't,
you know, I mean I saw a

750
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:44.440
stat that the relief pitching has like
a six r A or something like that

751
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:46.480
for base baseball. Yeah, it's
crazy. Yeah, they're starter and the

752
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:52.079
guy that came in to relieve in
the eighth got hit. The stopper got

753
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:55.599
hit. It's must be frustrating.
It as all heck to Chip Hall because

754
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.360
you saw him in the background,
Like I'm thinking, would you rather be

755
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.440
at the Major he's going through one
hundred Yeah, Yeah, I don't know,

756
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:07.719
man, I know, losing sucks
when you lose like that, though,

757
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.719
it really sucks, Yeah, it
does. It's it's it's awful.

758
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:14.119
It's awful and just you know what, like you said, when you think

759
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:19.840
you've got games one or um,
yeah yeah, you know and and uh,

760
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.559
stuff like that happens. Yeah yeah, crazy that you just started self

761
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:27.480
doubting, so you do. Hey, we got twenty seconds, all right,

762
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.480
uh all right, we we got
to get out of here the top

763
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:30.760
of the hour and we're gonna come
back. We'll have breaking news from Knowing