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Hey, Hi, how are you. We're doing a special edition. You

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know, I have so much content
right now, I can't get all of

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it on a single show. And
you know, we don't spend a great

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deal of time with each program.
You know, we got an hour for

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the interview, and we got a
few notes here and there. But there

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is so much happening in the world
of anomalies, ancient civilizations, anomalists,

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hybrid humans, and on and on
into god whatever you can think of,

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you know, UFO, alien and
so forth. And so I'm and I

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have this new producer, Gail tor
who's always sending me stuff, and it's

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like I can't keep up with it. So we're doing a special edition regarding

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these strange humanoids in Peru, these
mummies. And if you remember about what

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was it six seven years ago to
twenty eighteen, Melissa Tittle from Gaya when

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she was with Gaya, came on
the program and said, you know,

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we're doing a program, a special
program on these Nasca, Peru mummies.

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And I was like, well,
what is that all about. Well,

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some tomb raiders had been climbing cliffs
close to the Nasca area Nasca Lines,

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the world famous lines, and ran
across these mummies, and these mummies had

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three fingers and three toes, e
long gated heads, very unusual facial features,

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and they looked human, but they
looked also very alien, like the

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classic Grays. You could say.
Well, Guya ended up spending perhaps a

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few million dollars to do a series
of investigations that include well known scientists,

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a Russian physicist, all kinds of
really amazing people, and came up with

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the series The NASCAR Peruvian Mummies.
I think it was a seven or eight

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part series. Melissa came on the
program and introduced it, and there were

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a lot of speculations because when they
did the DNA study they found that it

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was partially human, but then there
was a whole bunch of DNA that was

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not It was very strange, almost
unworldly. And then after that, you

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know, Melissa left Gaya. We
didn't get a follow up because gene sequencing

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takes a long time, so we
didn't get a sense of exactly what was

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what on that, and so you
know, it was fun to have around

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the program, but we were like, what are these are these hybrids?

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Are these human beings? Are these
aliens? They sure looked like aliens with

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three fingers and three toes. So
coming full circle to today on March twelfth,

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just a week ago, well,
now it's about let me think,

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a couple of weeks ago, a
press release went out that said a new

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species of humanoid previous unknown to science, has been discovered and guess war was

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discovered in the Nasca region of Peru
and a grouping of caves close to where

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these early mummies came from. By
the way, that first mummy that we

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were talking about that Melissa introduced was
called Maria. Now I've seen pictures of

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this new mummy and it's a child. It's a small child that's been embombed,

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but it has a beautifully elong get
his skull. It's got a face

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that looks very alien, but it's
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They have scanned it, they have
X rayed. It's biological. It's not

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fake. It is the real deal. So the program today is going to

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feature this. And we have a
award winning filmmaker, documentary filmmaker, Michael

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Mazzola, who I'm gonna interview,
and he's done a whole bunch of research

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on UFOs, on UAPs and the
question of high bred humans on Earth.

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He's been fascinated and has worked closely
with the news reporter in Mexico, a

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guy named Heimi Mason. And it's
funny. I gotta get Heimi on the

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program. So that's our program today. What's funny is they are thinking right

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now. Early analysis is showing that
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And one of the things that they
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cat scan ct scan is the discovery
of bits and pieces of metal along musculature

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and on the chest a big piece
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Now, why would they insert and
by the way they've analyzed the metal,

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it's not a platinum. It's a
very strange mixture of metals that they

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have found under the skin. This
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and this makes this whole discovery quite
unique. And we're gonna hear details about

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this today. But why would they
put metal in the body? I bring

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this up in our interview and it's
fascinating. Okay, let's get some background

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material. I'm gonna play a few
minutes of the guy at introduction to these

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mummies. Because this mummy that we've
are going to talk about today. Looks

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like a similar type. But perhaps
these are kings or queens, or higher

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ups or administrative types that have these
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So here's a quick overview of what
these mummies are all about, and

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I'll come right back. Extraordinary claims
require extraordinary evidence. Last year, Gaya

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documented several humanoid mummies discovered in the
Nascar region of Peru. DNA samples were

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extracted from the body, feet in
hands of the mummy named Maria. The

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DNA was tested to determine if it
matched any known DNA. The results are

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in. We are dealing with an
unidentified organism. In my career, I

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can't say I've actually seen anything like
this. Thanks for joining us here,

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Melissa, Thanks for having me in
third phase of the Moon. Now,

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it's been about two years since the
investigation by Guy into the Nascup mummies,

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and two years ago and the world
was saying that this was some kind of

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perpetrated huax. What's your thoughts.
What's the new conclusion now? Well,

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I would say a couple of things. We just came out with a new

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documentary, and in this documentary that
does kind of an overview of all the

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updates, but then kind of shows
behind the scenes what happened. I would

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have to say that to me,
we did a lot of tests, we

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did carbonating, genetic testing, whatever, but the high res CT scans were

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unbelievable. And when you look at
those, because when I think of genetic

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testing and I think, okay,
well, there's so many questions that need

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to be answered. But if I
look at those CT scans, you're looking

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at like muscle, fiber and tissue
and blood left on the bodies. You're

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also looking at bodies that according to
all the professional people that we have shown

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it to, for people that do
this for a living that look that are

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either radiologists or surgeons that kind of
thing, they can't find anything altered with

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the bones. So for me,
that's a good place to start. So

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you've done some extensive research, including
DNA sequencing, can you tell us does

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the sequencing match the code of our
regular DNA human code or is this something

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altogether different. I do not believe
that they are one hundred percent human.

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Again, when you do genetic testing, you can only ask one question with

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the sample, and then you ask
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the machine. But so we were
only able to ask a couple questions,

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and we wanted to know, you
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human and then if there was a
part of it that had biological human like

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genetic codes, then which ones would
they match on the planet Earth right genetic

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testing. Those are the two questions
we can ask given ask given the samples

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that we had. And so it
did come back that there was twenty five

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percent of that sample did have human
like DNA and of that twenty five percent,

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none of that matched any modern human
DNA. So that's pretty interesting considering,

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you know, if it's a hoax, or it's made up, or

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even if it's like a relative in
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strange. However, we haven't been
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that's just another question down the genetic
code line. That's that's what the university

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hopefully is going to do well.
I want to mention Michael has sent me

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the scans and the X rays.
I'm going to post them on the Facebook

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page, both of them, the
international and the group page. Look closely

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at these metal plates that are just
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in the legs. You can't really
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they're other scin but we can't tell
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work. This is not a random
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one thousand years old, so that
when these beans were alive, that would

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be walking among the Inca. That
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Lines are the Nasca people, but
they believe they're Inca like. Also important

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to remember general science believes that the
Nasca Lines were created on the ground,

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but the problem with that theory is
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of feet above the ground. Many
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airplanes and aircraft, and they're even
visible by satellites. We've had people on

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the program who believe they were used
as gigantic maps, grids geographical surveys of

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pointing different parts of the planet,
and that they were used as a giant

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roadmap when aircraft of all types came
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where the hell they were. So
that's the consideration. Obviously kind of interesting

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to consider, but we just don't
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mummies are anomalies part of Erth's ancient
past, and that's what our show is

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today. So today's program is called
Nasca Peru and the High Bred Humans,

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and my guest today is Michael Mozzola. A few years ago we featured a

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documentary by Gaya on these unusual mummies
that were found in Peru. The documentary

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was called Unearthed Nasca and we had
Melissa Tittle. Melissa was a regular on

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Earth Ancients for a number of years, and this was a very strange documentary

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because it was featuring a number of
discoveries in Peru that were made in twenty

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seventeen by actually the individual who released
this data was Heimi Massan, who is

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a well known Mexican journalist. And
what was unique about these mummies was first

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they had three fingers and three toes, they had elongated skulls, they were

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much thinner than normal Earth humans,
and they did a series of In fact,

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guy I paid for a series of
very detailed scientific studies of these mummies

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that must have run into the hundreds
of thousands of dollars because some of the

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DNA studies were sent to Russia and
they came back showing that these mummies were

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from Earth, but they had some
unusual mixtures in their DNA. Following this

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documentary, a lot of information came
out against Heimi Massan and that these were

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not real humanoids, that they were
doll if you want to use a term,

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and that they were not valid humanoids
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there's been a lot of questions about, you know, the integrity of the

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research team and Jimi Massan himself,
and we were kind of left questioning the

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whole thing. I don't know how
Guya left it, but they did spend

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a significant significant amount of money on
Unearthed Nosca and I saw it and we

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had Melissa on as a follow up, and you know, she was a

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little disappointed at the reaction of the
public to her documentary, but all in

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all it came out barely well received. Today we're introducing a new research bit

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of information that has come to me
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But we have as a guest today
Michael Missoula, who is an award

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winning filmmaker and he's done a couple
of different documentaries. One of them is

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called Unacknowledged Close Encounters of the fifth
Kind. He's also done another one called

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Missing four one one the UFO Connection
and the Lost Century, and Michael was

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able to be a part of a
new unveiling. Apparently they have found another

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mummy in Peru. We're going to
find out the details of this, and

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apparently this is much much more clearly
human humanoid, I should say, but

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there's some other characteristics that are just
profound that we want to learn about.

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So Michael, welcome to Earth Ancient. It's great to have you, great

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to be here. Thank you for
having me talk a little bit about how

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you got involved with this project and
your connection to Haimie Massan. Yeah,

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I mean this is the last thing
I expected to be involved in, right,

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So, I've been full time documentary
filmmaker and UFO researcher for the last

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ten years or so. I've met
Heimie a number of times at the Star

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Warks conference in Laughlin, which is
no longer happening. Was my friend Paula

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Harris's conference. She'd always bring high
me out. He'd give a presentation on

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the bodies. It was always very
compelling, but it's it's not something that

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I was really obsessed with. It
wasn't my really my area of focus with

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the kinds of films that I was
making, right, So, my documentaries

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have always been more focused on on
the human side of things. What have

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humans done in response to us,
you know, talking about military industrial complex,

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fascism, media manipulation, cover ups, uh, false flags, stuff

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like that, or on the spiritual
and consciousness side, like with Close Encounters

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of the Fifth Kind and some other
projects. So, but I was kind

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of peripherally aware of these bodies and
I didn't know what to make of them.

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And then last September, Haimi Massan
brought two of these bodies in front

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of the Mexican Congress and the story
went super viral. Everybody saw this and

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I had tons of people asking me, is this is this real or fake?

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And I had I had no idea, but I realized, Okay,

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this is something we're going to have
to confront and deal with because this story

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is building. It's it's not going
away, uh, And I was I

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was leaning towards fake, right,
because it's it just seems it just seems

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so ridiculous on the face of it. It's just how how could these be?

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You know, two dead extraterrestrials or
whatever or whatever they are. It

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just it's just, you know,
they look like something out of a Hollywood

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special effects department. But my producing
partner, Serena d C and I we

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decided to go down and see the
bodies and interview himie and we thought,

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okay, we'll do a little news
report, you know, we'll spend a

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day filming and just you know,
see what we find. So we go

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down to Mexico City. We're in
Heimi's office. We're looking at the two

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bodies that he presented to the Mexican
Congress. I'm sitting there and I have

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friends sending me articles that are breaking
that day. So it was breaking news

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that day, and they were sending
me these articles say hey, Michael,

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you're wasting your time and they're fake. I mean, look at these articles.

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And the articles were saying, Provian
officials have determined that Heimen Massan's alien

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mummies are fake. They're just dolls. Provian officials seized the bodies, they've

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examined them, they've done testing and
it's it's just animal bones and glue.

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Right and then, and the articles
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they're wearing dresses and sombreros and they
look ridiculous. I'm sitting there reading this

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and I've got the actual two bodies
one foot from me, right, They're

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sitting right in front of me,
and I'm looking at my phone. I'm

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looking at these bodies. I'm looking
at my phone. I'm looking at these

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bodies, and I'm saying, these
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this is First of all, it's
weird that this story is breaking while I'm

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sitting here with these bodies, right, but these are these are not the

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same specimen. And so that's the
that's when I started to suspect, Okay,

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something weird is going on here,
you know, why are proving official

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saying this, you know, and
and trying to make people think that these

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are the same bodies right when they're
clearly not. So then we got introduced

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to a guy named doctor Jose Salse
And this guy was He's a lieutenant colonel

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in the Mexican Navy. He's the
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the Mexican Navy. He liked the
surgeon general for the Mexican Special Forces.

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He's an expert in DNA forensics and
he's worked on a lot of criminal cases.

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He's an expert in forensic anthropology and
forensic dentistry, so like exactly the

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kind of guy you would want examining
this, right, And you know,

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he starts showing us CT scans and
X rays and and again, I'm still

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just talking about these two original bodies
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You're talking about Maria and what was
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Maria. Maria is the larger one
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the human size one. He did
examine Maria. We eventually talked to her,

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but no, these are named Clara
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little ones that kind of went viral? Right? Okay? And you know,

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so he's showing us the scans.
He's saying, number one, it's

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impossible, in his professional opinion,
that these were constructed by somebody. He

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said, there's no signs whatsoever of
any kind of manipulation, you know,

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and these things were perfectly mummified,
so they've got partial organs intact, even

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though they're a one thousand years old. You know, they were all preserved

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in diatamacious. He said. The
the skeleton is perfectly coherent. The you

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know, again, doesn't appear to
be assembled. He said, The joints

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show the wear and tear that you
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was used to walk around and move
and live, you know. And and

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there was also this metal implant,
this breastplate made of osmium and cadmium and

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pure silver. Things that, yeah, things that are toxic in human body

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and other biological organisms on earth.
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while it was still alive. He
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into the tissue. And again and
these are metals that you know, humans

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didn't even know existed a thousand years
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did that come from? And and
it was pregnant, It had eggs in

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its belly and various stages of development. So he was saying it's impossible,

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in his opinion, for this to
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I was so impressed by doctor Salsa, And you know, he struck me

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as such an incredibly competent, incredible
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he had suffered greatly, you know, you know, professionally and socially for

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having stuck his neck out, and
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wasn't thrilled that their their head of
health basically was, you know, talking

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about these alien hybrids. And that
was actually the most most interesting thing he

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said was that that there had been
twelve independent DNA analyses done on them and

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they all showed the same thing,
which it was seventy percent combination of obo,

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chimp and human, and that it
and that there were markers in the

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DNA that suggested they were spliced together. So that you're talking about genetic engineering

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a thousand years ago, which begs
the question who had the ability to do

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genetic hybrids a thousand years ago?
It wasn't us, right, yeah,

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and then thirty unknown d right.
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point is you know, while we
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because we don't we don't know the
origin of this no lame definitively that came

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from another planet. But who had
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You know what I mean? I
think kind of the hypothesis here that makes

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the most sense, at least for
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never drew breath on another planet,
even if they were. You know,

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we're created here on earth. You
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Right? So I was I was
sitting there listening to this and and

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just realizing, oh my god,
you know, there's so much confusion and

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miss maybe about this. How isn't
it mercilessly? And now all these articles

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were coming out the day that I'm
sitting there right saying it's just chicken bones

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and glue. And so we Serena
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we want to we want to keep
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talk to more of these scientists.
And and Heine said, well, why

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don't you come to Peru because you've
got new bodies that are then found by

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these treasure hunters and they're going to
be handing them over to our scientific team

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for examination. You come film it. So we went down to Peru and

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that's when we saw the body Bastion
and Santiago, which Heimi has just you

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know, published, and Joyce Mantilla, the Peruvian journalists, these these images.

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I can make sure you get a
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these these two extraordinary bodies, and
they look like children. They're they're in

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a Lotus city, their seated position. Did they come from Did they come

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from the same area that the other
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same cave they excavated or was it
a different location. No, this was

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the same cave, and so we
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Now, I didn't realize that it
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two hour vertical climb up a mountain
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this trip. I was I mean
it was. It was harrowing. It

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was so scary. And then we
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can just walk into and instead it
was this little hole and you had to

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like get down on your belly and
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kind of just stuck my head and
my claustrophobia just said, oh screw this.

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whole thing. It was not a
very space. It went about eight feet

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back, ten feet back. Maybe
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went in and they filmed a little
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the that was filled to the ceiling
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been blocked by a stack of rocks. When he removed the rocks, it

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was just this dietamacious earth. And
he started digging and revealing these, you

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know, artifacts, and which I
haven't seen the artifacts. I've only seen

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the bodies, you know, the
art. What are the artifacts like they

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were They're like carvings. They're carvings
that that depict you know, beings that

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kind of like these bodies, you
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the artifacts myself. I don't know
where, but I heard about them,

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but I can't really speak to them. But anyway, we we we filmed,

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you know, we we we we
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doctors from the University of Eca and
Peru, surgeons from Lima, some of

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the most you know, some of
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or an Eco rather, and we
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and then they were examining the x
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these bodies had metal implants in them, you know, these weird metallica and

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these things have to be analyzed.
You know, there's there's you know,

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there hasn't been DNA done on these
new boss They need to do carbon dating.

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We assume that there are a thousand
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know, all this testing still needs
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the tomography scans and the X rays. These scientists who are having this again,

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these are you know, forensic anthropologists. These are these are you know

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we have the top microhand surgeon in
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you know these are really looking at
these scans, they're saying these bodies are

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totally coherent, these coherent structures,
These are not assembled. And the accusation

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that's been made is that, you
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Who are you know, getting on
YouTube and figuring out how to manipulate

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mummies to create these things? And
for me, that's just not that's not

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credible. You know, that's the
you would need, you know, you

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would need a million dollar medical education
to even know where to start to pull

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hoax like this off. Let me
start, let me stop you for a

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minute. Sorry, go ahead,
I'm I'm first of all, I'm curious

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this location ninety feet up from the
ground in a small cave. Is this

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where all these mummies have been found
or just the most recent mummies? No,

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all of them. And it wasn't
ninety feet it was ninety minutes.

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It was a ninety minute vertical climb. Oh, ninety minutes to get up.

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It was really high up, and
it was very very sketchy, and uh

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yeah, I mean we didn't know
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out in the middle of nowhere.
We arrived and it was like this chicken

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coop, you know, and then
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there was just a trail going up
this mountain. Uh. And then we

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got off the trail. Our guide
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just climbing and I was like,
oh my god, I'm gonna die.

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But but I mean, you know
what, first of all, what part

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of Peru is it? Is it
out in the sticks? Oh? Okay?

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So so obviously grave robbers were the
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they prefer the term treasure hunter.
Treasure hunter, okay, okay, whatever.

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for a while was the damacious earth

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brought in to bury these people or
was it part of the composition of the

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cave. Yeah, so it seems
to have been brought in. So whoever

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whoever buried these things knew exactly what
they were doing, because the dietamacious earth

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will pull out all of the all
of the moisture and kind of preserve it

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perfectly. So it was someone someone
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to do it. So yeah,
yeah, this was out in the steps.

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This was this was like in the
in the countryside near Agnaska is the

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nearest place, and we went,
we flew over the Nasca Lines. You

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know, we're making this documentaries,
so we're we're looking at different angles and

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we're like, okay, these things
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are famous, these famous monuments that
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but they're twenty five hundred years old. So it's like, well,

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who were they made for? You
know, well that's been a huge question

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forever. You know, you only
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they keep finding more and more.
They're not just in Nasca, they're up

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above the hills and around the area. Yeah, And it's funny because Gaya,

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when they did this documentary attach the
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which are glyphs. But we don't
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because unless you find artifacts from these
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there's no way to know what the
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Before we go on real quickly,
does it appear to you as a researcher

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that the rouvi And government is making
fakes? No? No, no,

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So that's such a good question.
So we met a guy and we interviewed

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him. He'll be in this film. His name is Manuel, and he

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made the two fakes that everyone has
seen in these articles, and those were

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confiscated by the Peruvian officials. Now
he says that he notified them that these

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were works of art that he made. It was his hope to sell them

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to tourists, you know, because
he's from he's from the area where this

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was found. He's from a town
called Palpa, which is next to Naska,

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you know. And he said,
well, listen, you know,

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these bodies are gonna this town on
the map. We're going to get great

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tourism, and you know, and
so he so he's so he says,

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he swears that he notified them that
these were fakes. So he's the one

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who made them. Now, if
you read the news coverage, it says,

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well, proving officials confiscated bodies similar
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Right, well, that is that
is very that's very misleading, right,

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you know, uh, because these
are these are works of art inspired by

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the real ones. And again we're
not claiming we know what the real ones

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are, and maybe they are some
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the people who have taken that position, you know, there are some experts

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who said this has to be some
kind of elaborate fabrication. Even they say,

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but that's just as extraordinary as if
these were authentic, because we have

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no idea how anybody could possibly construct
something like this, let alone a thousand

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years ago, you know, like
it is this insane mystery. So all

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we're saying is, look, they're
not dolls, they're not chicken bones and

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glue, they're not paper mache.
You know, they're not cake art,

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which I saw a comment I thought
that was really funny. Someone said they

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look like cake art, and you
know, we don't know what they are,

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but we have enough really credible scientists
who have spent years examining these you

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know, doctor Roger Zuniga, an
anthropologist at the University of Eca. He

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led a twelve man team for several
years examining these things, particularly the body

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Maria, the larger, more human
size one right, and and after years

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of examination, are saying, buddy, this is this is not a fabrication.

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Now they might be wrong, but
isn't you know, is that something

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that we can really just dismiss out
of hand, you know? And and

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something I have personally seen throughout this
process is I've had many reporters and friends

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and advisors say to me with a
straight face, with no self awareness at

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all, well, you know,
it doesn't mean anything until you get American

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scientists to look at it. And
for me, that's so ethnocentric or racist

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or whatever you want to do.
Yeah, it's totally racist. It's totally

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so racist. Yeah. So I'm
as typical as typical when it comes to

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archaeology and anthropology as well as like, until the Americans can see these things,

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we can't verify their authenticity. It's
like what what does that matter?

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But I mean, this is this
is really bad. I want you.

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I have a number of photographs of
this new these new bodies, this one

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child, which looks so alien.
The head's long and the eyes are slit.

406
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:22.920
It looks like you could maybe like
a gray if you if you could

407
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.199
classify it. What we know about
alien civilizations? What little we know?

408
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:35.320
Uh? But talk a little bit
about this child, because not only does

409
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:40.639
it have a very elongated head,
what is the guests to meet in terms

410
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:47.920
of the age the in terms of
how old it was in the past.

411
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:53.599
Yeah, I I don't. I
don't know the answer to that. Okay,

412
00:38:54.679 --> 00:39:00.320
Now I know that they can do
these things are often estimated based on

413
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:06.519
the wear and tear on the bones. But I don't. I don't recall

414
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:13.000
if I ever heard an age estimate
for these guys. So I'm sorry,

415
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.440
I don't have an answer on that. Okay, coming forward, this this

416
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:19.960
this new announcement. And by the
way, for those of you listening,

417
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.079
uh this, you guys are just
down there? What last week? Right?

418
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:29.719
This just happened. We were down
there a month ago and then last

419
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:34.760
week we did a we did a
press conference at the Montre on in West

420
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.360
Hollywood where we where we unveiled this
stuff, and we we couldn't bring the

421
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:45.960
bodies the United States legally. Unfortunately, it's a whole it's a whole legal

422
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:51.800
process to do that, I would
imagine. Yeah, so we which is

423
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.760
which is weird because the Peruvian government
has taken the position and these are fake

424
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.960
so you think, well, what's
the issue, right, But you know,

425
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.800
we have to do things through the
proper legal channels. So that's a

426
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.320
whole, that's a whole other process
to go through, and we needed to

427
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.639
unveil this stuff. So what we
did was the next best thing. We

428
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:16.079
had a live link to the labs
in Peru and so we actually had Joyce

429
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:21.199
Mantilla, the Peruvian journalists down there
in the lab. Then they put these

430
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:27.559
two bodies through the the scanner and
they were showing the live scans. It

431
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:34.119
was it was really cool. Unfortunately, our English live stream failed, so

432
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.719
I had so many angry people screaming
at us online and saying you idiots,

433
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.360
you you know, and it was
so embarrassing. But the Spanish live stream

434
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:49.800
worked and it had a really really
good impact. You know, We're going

435
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.679
to take a short commercial break to
allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and

436
00:40:54.719 --> 00:41:01.840
we will return shortly with my guests
today, Michael maazoo Lah discussing this new

437
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:49.679
Pruvian mummy. We'll be right back. My guest today is Michael Missoula.

438
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:57.480
He is a documentary film maker who
specializes in anomalies UFOs u AP coverage,

439
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:04.320
and he has had a chance to
see and discuss this new mummy that's coming

440
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:09.639
out of Peru. Unlike the earlier
mummies we reported with Melissa Tittle from Gaya,

441
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.440
this is a whole different hybrid,
a whole different type of humanoid.

442
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:24.239
And we're getting an idea today just
how special this discovery is. What so

443
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:30.599
far other than the beautiful crany of
this little child, what is unique about

444
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:37.119
these new bodies? Are they similar
to Maria and the others? I mean

445
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:42.880
they look similar. Obviously they're bleached
white because of the soil that they were

446
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:47.800
buried in. But what are some
of the unique descriptives that you can present?

447
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:53.639
Yeah, so the thing that they
all these guys have in common is

448
00:42:54.159 --> 00:43:00.400
the three fingers and three toes,
right, So that's why we're to get

449
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:04.519
away from calling them the Nasca alien
mummies, even though that's I still call

450
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.719
them that because that's what they're known
as, but we're trying to rebrand them

451
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:14.440
as the tridactyl beings, right,
you know, hidactyl meaning you know,

452
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:21.800
fingers. And when I was when
I was first interviewing doctor Salsa a couple

453
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:28.559
months ago in Mexico City, I
said, you know, these things don't

454
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:36.280
have These things don't have thumbs.
You know, it doesn't that indicate a

455
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:40.559
disadvantage, an evolutionary disadvantage. You
know, if these are some sort of

456
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:47.480
extraterrestrial species, or if they are
the product of genetic engineering by some sort

457
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:55.039
of advanced intelligence, you know,
why would they have less sophisticated hands than

458
00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.559
us? And he said his answer
really cool. He said, well,

459
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.480
actually, that's that's not the case. He said, the way the hands

460
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:10.639
are constructed, they actually seem to
be more refined than ours, where they

461
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:15.679
don't they don't need the thumb.
They're able to coil their fingers the way

462
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:22.199
that they're constructed around around objects and
grasp them without the need of a thumb.

463
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:28.920
So they actually might be a more
streamlined evolutionary design. Is that because

464
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:34.920
there's perhaps more joints in the hand, an extra joint that allows for greater

465
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:39.800
flexibility. Yes, And in some
of the bodies, the in Clara and

466
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.440
Mauricio, the two that originally went
viral, the way that the necks are

467
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:50.119
constructed, the vertebrae in the neck, it appears as if they're able to

468
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:54.079
elongate their necks. And I said, oh my god, like ET.

469
00:44:55.960 --> 00:45:00.559
Yeah, and just what everybody says
right there, like yeah, it does

470
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.800
like ET. And you know,
I've been in the been in the UFO

471
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:10.880
field for a long time, and
so you hear all kinds of lore and

472
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:15.599
and so you know, I don't
know what's I sometimes don't know what's true

473
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.440
and what's what's reliable what isn't.
But something I've heard for a long time

474
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:28.039
from reliable sources was that the film
ET was based on was inspired by our

475
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.719
real case where a being was left
behind. Now again I don't know if

476
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:37.039
that's true. It's really cool if
it is true. Yeah, And but

477
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:45.000
we do know for sure that Spielberg's
other ET film, Close Encounters of the

478
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.760
Third Kind. You know, he
was given access for that. You know,

479
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:57.559
Jacques Frolet was an advisor to the
project. And I believe j al

480
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:04.039
and Heinek had a cameo uh in
the film. Yeah, yeah, so

481
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.320
I mean he was he was given
real access for that. So, I

482
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:13.760
you know, I think I think
it's it's possible that you know, et

483
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:15.559
could have been inspired by a real
thing. I just thought that was so

484
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:21.599
interesting that anyway, doctor Salse said
they could elongate their their necks like that,

485
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:27.119
that's pretty cool. Do did the
I don't know if there was a

486
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:32.039
pathologist there, but the scientists that
did the scans on this child, did

487
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:38.239
they get a sense of or a
measurement of the interior cranial vault to understand

488
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:47.599
if the brain was significantly bigger or
that the head was just elongated and that

489
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.880
the brain mass was the same as
ours. Oh man, that is such

490
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:58.639
a good question. Uh I.
I do not know about their their relative

491
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:04.079
brain size, and again that would
also go back to then estimating age,

492
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.400
right, and then comparing that to
a human of the same age. Let

493
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.480
me talk to them and see if
I can get an answer to that.

494
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.599
That's a really good question. Yeah, send me that detail that I'll post

495
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:17.800
it on our Facebook page to our
listeners because we have a big audience on

496
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.119
Facebook. And by the way,
those of you who are following along,

497
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:30.239
I will be posting a small gallery
of these humanoids that were taking photos and

498
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:37.559
scans that were taken somewhat recently,
including this beautiful child who looks just like

499
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:42.599
an et. It's like Jesus Christ, and it's so elegant, it's so

500
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.320
well preserved, there's no way.
I mean, who knows if it's fake

501
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.599
or not. But it looks pretty
damn real to me. I mean,

502
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:53.199
listen, it looks it looks real
to us too. And again we can't

503
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:58.480
rule out that this isn't some kind
of super elaborate fake, right, But

504
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:02.239
again, what these FORENDS experts are
telling us, uh, and it's not

505
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:06.480
just the ones who've come forward.
We've got a lot of forensic experts who

506
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.920
are advising us who do not want
to come forward yet, you know,

507
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:15.719
because they're nervous, right. But
they're saying to us, they're saying,

508
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:22.199
this would require for these to be
fakes, This would require you know,

509
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:28.440
a million dollar medical education. Yeah, hundreds of thousands of dollars in equipment,

510
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.800
materials and technology that we don't know
exists yet in order to pull this

511
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.559
off. They're saying, we have
absolutely no idea how somebody could possibly construct

512
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:45.320
this. I recently got confronted by
another another filmmaker who I won't I won't

513
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:47.960
name that he was he was screaming
at me. He's saying, these are

514
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:54.280
these are these are fakes. It's
been debunked. You know. Grave robbers

515
00:48:54.280 --> 00:49:00.960
in Peru are getting on YouTube and
learning how to soak mummies in water to

516
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:06.920
make them pliable, and then they
twist them into and for for me,

517
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:15.760
that is so implausible, Like the
idea that these are alien hybrids is way

518
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.679
more likely than the fact that these
Because I met these guys, I met

519
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:23.920
the treasure hunters. We interviewed one
of them. You know, he took

520
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:29.679
us to the cave, We went
to his house. You know, this

521
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:35.679
is not someone who strikes me,
and and not to be disrespectful to him

522
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:42.320
at all, but I'm not sophisticated
enough to pull off a hoax like that.

523
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.360
You know, this guy's not sophisticated
enough to pull off a hoax like

524
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:50.960
that. And for what to sell
this thing for a few thousand dollars dollars

525
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:54.159
on the black market. It doesn't
make any sense. It doesn't said.

526
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.000
Let's let's talk about what we know. So talk a bit about the DNA

527
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:06.039
evidence that been taken the DNA samples. At the beginning, you gave some

528
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:12.519
generalized markers here and there, but
can you give us some specifics as to

529
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:20.199
how much of it is Earth human
and then what is perhaps the unusual or

530
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:29.079
perhaps off world DNA pattern? Yeah, of course, So again talking about

531
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.880
the two original bodies that Heimi brought
in front of the Mexican Congress, the

532
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.199
ones that went super viral, right, because the new bodies we just unveiled

533
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:44.199
haven't had DNA analysis done. Now
we have a number of labs. You

534
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.079
know, everyone's gonna get their wish. Everyone who said, oh you got

535
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.159
to have American scientists, Well you're
gonna get your wish. We've got a

536
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:55.440
number of extremely prestigious university laboratories that
have taken interest in this. Now it's

537
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.800
just a matter of figuring out,
okay, how do we You know,

538
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.639
we've got to go through the proper
channels. The University of Eca has to

539
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:07.360
send samples. There's a whole legal
process, so that's got to take its

540
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.159
course, right, and it has
to be scientific too. It has to

541
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:14.719
be you know, you know,
a clean room or whatever without you know,

542
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:17.039
bad air, all that kind of
stuff. Yeah, exactly. It's

543
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:21.360
got to be scial it's got all
that stuff, you know, way above

544
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:30.480
my pay grade. So so the
the the two original bodies, they've had

545
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.880
twelve independent DNA analyses done in Mexico
and Peru. There was also I believe

546
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:38.159
a lab in Russia that was involved. Ye, and everyone got the same

547
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:44.559
results. Now, they were taking
DNA from the from the inside of the

548
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:49.400
skull of one of these all right, is where they where they took the

549
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.400
samples from. Wow. Right,
And and actually I will say, as

550
00:51:53.400 --> 00:52:00.199
a side note for the radiocarbon dating, the way they determined that these things

551
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:04.559
were one thousand years old, They
tested the dietamacious earth that they were packed

552
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:08.239
in. They took samples from the
exterior of the bodies and from the interior

553
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:14.960
of the bodies, and all three
of those said one thousand years old.

554
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:20.840
So that's how we determine the age. In terms of the DNA it was

555
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:25.519
seventy percent fibrid between chimps, bonobos, and humans. And I don't remember

556
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:34.079
the exact breakdown between between those three. But according to doctor Salse again,

557
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:38.480
lieutenant colonel in the Mexican Navy,
expert in DNA forensics, he interpreted the

558
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:44.280
DNA results for us, and he
said that there were markers in the DNA

559
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:52.360
that indicated that these were spliced together. Then you had thirty percent of the

560
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:58.360
DNA that was completely unknown. So
for all the billions of base pairs in

561
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:02.599
gen bank and every species that's ever
been documented, right, thirty percent of

562
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:08.480
this thing there was no match.
That's really weird, right, So seventy

563
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:13.840
percent common ancestry, Right, it's
not seventy percent human, but it's seventy

564
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.599
percent common ancestry. It's bonobo's,
it's gymps, it's human, and thirty

565
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:24.480
percent totally unknown and again a thousand
years old, and again seemingly a hybrid.

566
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:30.599
So who had the ability to do
that? And something I said at

567
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:35.559
the press conference but my audio was
cut out, we had all these all

568
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:40.280
these problems. So I think it's
worth repeating here is that none of these

569
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.800
scientists who we've met and who've come
forward in Mexico and pro none of them

570
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.440
are saying the science is settled.
You have to believe us. They've been

571
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.400
so open about the work that they've
done and the work that needs to be

572
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:59.719
done, and they're so anxious to
have the worldwide scientific community come and participate

573
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.119
in this. Yeah. Yeah.
The thing that you're talking about, though,

574
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:08.039
is a problem because as a ufologist, which is what I consider who

575
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:13.880
you are, I've been in it
as a program director for conferences for years,

576
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:19.960
probably over thirty years. And the
problem is that because the Americans follow

577
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:29.599
the Brookies Institute document that basically says
if we reveal evidence of an alien or

578
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:35.119
hybrid civilization, the public will lose
their mind, religions would leave, people

579
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:39.199
will commit suicide, all this bullshit. This document was written sixty years ago,

580
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:50.159
but it's still being adhered to by
the authorities. So disinformation runs rampant,

581
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:54.159
and so any revelation of a new
species that lived on Earth a thousand

582
00:54:54.199 --> 00:55:02.880
years ago is immediately put into questions. So when you're telling me that American

583
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:09.119
scientists are now opening to the possibilities
of this and wanting to inspect it themselves,

584
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:14.320
you've got to be on the fence
about that. I mean, tell

585
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:17.039
me how you feel about that,
because you know the problems we deal with

586
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:22.679
when we deal with any evidence of
an alien or even a hybrid species being

587
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:30.159
on Earth. I mean, it's
a scary premonition, not premonition, but

588
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:37.079
it's a scary possibility of getting like
other fake automatically going to the dark side

589
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:42.840
of all this research. Yeah,
so that's such an important point you brought

590
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:53.440
up, because we know how centralized
scientific researches in the United States, and

591
00:55:53.920 --> 00:56:04.000
we know that there's a lot of
sort of exposure points, pressure points for

592
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:10.239
scientists where you know, if you
want to suppress something, there's ways to

593
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:15.719
apply pressure to people, you know. So part of the part of the

594
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:22.360
answer is to get a lot of
different people involved. So this isn't resting

595
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:30.280
on one person's credibility, you know, because if it's up to one scientist

596
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.239
and you pressure Ham, then you
know you've discredited the whole thing. But

597
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:38.679
if you have multiple teams, multiple
universities, it has a better chance of,

598
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:44.880
you know, of some kind of
real science taking place. Also,

599
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:50.760
you know, a number of the
people who are expressing interest to us behind

600
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:54.599
the scenes are people who are top
of their field, but they're at the

601
00:56:54.679 --> 00:57:00.800
end of their careers, so they
don't really care about out Oh I'm not

602
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:07.880
going to get tenure or I might
lose my funding. They're saying to us,

603
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.199
Hey, man, I got nothing
to lose at this point. I'm

604
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:15.880
good and I just want to have
fun and this this is fun and interesting,

605
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:22.079
you know. And and they've looked
at the scans, the the tomography,

606
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:27.679
the X ray CT scans, et
cetera. Uh preliminary DNA stuff that's

607
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:31.480
come out of Mexico and Peru,
and they're saying, if this is if

608
00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:37.719
this is real, this is crazy, Like just if you didn't photoshop these

609
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:43.920
images like this is so you know, the next the next step is we

610
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.920
need we need to get these scientists
down to Peru because that's that's where these

611
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:51.760
bodies are, that's where you know, that's where the research is taking place.

612
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:58.639
So that's what we're working on until
we're in a position where we can

613
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:07.360
send amples to American laboratories or even
bring the bodies out of the country.

614
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:15.000
But again, that's a whole that's
a whole legal process. So let me

615
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:22.800
ask you another question about this the
DNA. You said that doctor Benitez said

616
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:30.480
there was gene manipulation. Now we
here right now, well not recently,

617
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:38.639
Crisper came out, which is a
a gene splicing tool, and they're promoting

618
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:46.880
it as a way to remove disease
make superhumans. I mean, that's the

619
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:52.360
worst case scenario, How does he
know that the genes were spliced? Can

620
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:59.960
he tell under a electron microscope that
the genes have been manipulated in that fashion?

621
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:07.000
So yeah, he says, according
to the way he interprets the DTA

622
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:15.880
analysis that's been done, there are
markers that indicate splicing. That's that's his

623
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:21.920
interpretation of the data. It's above
my pay right. But again, we're

624
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.199
not. None of these guys are
saying take my word for it. They're

625
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:34.840
saying, please come scrutinize, criticize, challenge scientific process take place. You

626
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:38.440
know, there's been so much cold
water thrown on this. You know,

627
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:43.840
at our at our press conference,
we had an amazing media turnout, and

628
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:51.000
we had almost no coverage because these
these writers and these videographers went back to

629
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:52.960
their editors and the editors said,
oh, that's been debunked, you know,

630
00:59:53.559 --> 01:00:00.159
so it's you know, so it
was really it was really disappointing for

631
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:06.599
that reason. We're not we're not
giving up. But you know, even

632
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:13.199
in the US, I mean I
would say that the and it'd be I

633
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:19.280
love this community, but it's more
skeptical towards these things. Now, Like

634
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.239
I have just friends who are not
into this stuff, who think this is

635
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:27.440
the coolest thing ever. And my
friends in the UFO community, who you

636
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:29.679
think would be all over this,
they're saying, Oh, why are you

637
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:31.880
messing around with that. You're ruining
your reputation, you know. Oh,

638
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:36.679
you're throwing your career away. Blah
blah blah. You know, why are

639
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:42.000
you associating with a hoax? Why
are you associating with himI Massan? Personally?

640
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:46.880
I love Jimi. I think Jimi
is a hero, and he's he's

641
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:52.480
a brilliant guy, you know,
and his motivation is just to get some

642
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:58.559
kind of redemption for these beings.
He understands that these beings belong to the

643
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:06.280
people of Peru. It's his vision
to have a museum in Peru where people

644
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:09.079
could come in and see these things. You know. He has fought so

645
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:15.320
hard to stop them from disappearing into
private collections on the black market. That's

646
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:20.599
why I say he's hero, because
all he's doing is getting criticized and attacked

647
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:24.719
and slandered by in a lot by
this community. You know, this community

648
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:30.360
could be brutal. So I don't
mind, I don't mind defending himI.

649
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:35.199
I think he's an amazing guy.
Uh talk a little bit about the surroundings

650
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:39.880
where these mummies were found. Are
there any ruins? Are there is there

651
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:46.760
any evidence of civilization in and around
the caves? I mean, this is

652
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:52.679
one of the big problems I have
with these artifacts that are found in uh

653
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:58.119
Jilesco, Mexico. I don't know
if you know about these jewelry that now

654
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:02.000
is flooding eBay, you can see. I mean it's very expensive. I

655
01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:06.320
was at a contact in the desert
last year and there was a guy who

656
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:10.039
had a whole table of these artifacts. And the problem is there's no ruins,

657
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:16.320
there's no evidence, and of course
Mexico is very poor and so there's

658
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:21.239
great some of it has has been
tested, but a lot of it seems

659
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:24.960
like it's coming out of a manufacturing
group of people. How let's go,

660
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:34.480
what do you say to that?
Yeah, So I was looking to acquire

661
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:39.639
some artifacts because they pop up every
now and then. And we were talking

662
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:43.880
about a couple of years ago doing
a UFO museum, you know, in

663
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:49.000
la and so we wanted we wanted
artifacts, and so I had my one

664
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:52.480
of my investors was saying, oh, I want to acquire this stuff.

665
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:59.280
And I don't even remember kind of
how it was presented to us as an

666
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:01.679
opportunity. But he asked me,
he said, hey, we need someone

667
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:08.559
who can help us vet this.
So I got a referral actually through Gia.

668
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:14.119
I called Guia and my friend's there
and they referred me to somebody.

669
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:16.400
And so he was kind of giving
us the lay of the land, and

670
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:21.559
he said, listen, you gotta
be you got to be really careful because

671
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:29.760
there are big criminal syndicates that are
making fake ones. I believe they know

672
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:34.639
that there's like dumb, rich Americans
who are just buying fake alien artifacts.

673
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.800
And they said, you got to
be really careful who you point the finger

674
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:44.000
at and accuse of selling a fake, because you might be pointing the finger

675
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:53.840
at some very dangerous individuals. So
I'm I'm very skeptical automatically of all these

676
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:58.519
artifacts. And I know that the
market has just been flooded with knockoffs and

677
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:02.079
fakes. And and the problem with
a lot of this is if it's you

678
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:06.880
know, if it's not being pulled
out of an official archaeological dig, if

679
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:11.480
it's just treasure hunters or grave robbers
or whatever, you have no chain of

680
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:14.719
custody, you know, Yeah,
it's like, oh, I have to

681
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:19.119
take a basically a criminals word for
it that these were found here and what

682
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:25.119
so for me, it's just not
even worth the headache of trying to sort

683
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:30.519
out what's real or fake. I'm
way more interested in the bodies. Wow,

684
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:35.639
as we close, and this has
been really fun Michael to have you

685
01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:41.639
on and to hear what you've discovered. You said something very interesting at the

686
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:46.400
very beginning that was discovered during one
of the CT scans, and that is

687
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:57.000
a metal plate inserted into the body
at what was about a very young age.

688
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:04.199
What does this look like what is
seen in the scans other than the

689
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:09.119
plate? Is there any markings?
Any talk about that? So there's no,

690
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:12.320
there's no markings on it. It
kind of looks like a like a

691
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:16.840
a chicken wishbone. And it's over
to the breastplate of this being the one

692
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:20.960
that's pregnant, and it seemed to
be there. We don't really know why,

693
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:26.920
but it's they kind of hypothesized it
was there to sort of help with

694
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:30.719
a fracture. Right. Oh,
so it's a medical but the but the

695
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:36.679
other bodies have implants as well.
There's stuff in the necks, there's plates

696
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:42.079
in the head. Uh, some
of them have weird patterns. I mean,

697
01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:46.320
it's it's really trippy. And again
we we this stuff has to be

698
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:53.320
studied, you know. But the
preliminary analysis from these forensic experts, they're

699
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:59.719
saying, Okay, these things were
surgically implanted while these beings were still a

700
01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:03.960
lot and it was done so perfectly, it was completely perfectly integrated into the

701
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:10.800
tissue. He said, this could
not have been done post mortem. And

702
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:15.639
again, this metal is it's it's
osmium and cadmium and you know, stuff

703
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:19.960
that humans didn't even know about to
the twentieth century and stuff that's you know,

704
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:24.960
not great for human biology. You
wouldn't want to have this stuff implanted

705
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.079
in you. So it's just it's
super weird. It needs to be properly

706
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:33.760
studied. Yeah, the reason that's
weird getting I don't know if you know

707
01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:40.719
this or not, but in pre
dynastic mummies they have found, using X

708
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:47.119
rays, jewels and other precious and
semi precious stones being placed under the skin

709
01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:53.119
and they see them in the arms
and the chest and in the legs,

710
01:06:53.840 --> 01:07:00.519
and a lot of people have thought
that they were used in some form of

711
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:11.519
enhancement because if you follow sderial astrology. The Hindus use special stones to repel

712
01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:17.679
vibrations during bad periods of astrological cycles, and they're also used for enhancement.

713
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:21.480
So when you said there was a
plate, I thought to myself, this

714
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:26.159
is an enhancement of some kind.
Yeah, it might be, which is

715
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.119
very cool. Yeah, we don't
know. So you'll see it in the

716
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:34.320
in the press, can't We've got
images of that. Yeah, oh you

717
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:38.719
do have some of the some of
the insertion, some of the implants.

718
01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:43.719
Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
So Daniel sent me a whole group of

719
01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:48.039
photographs part of that. So do
you know which Will I be able to

720
01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:51.239
tell which ones have the implants or
not? You should? You should be

721
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:58.320
able to. It's in the folder
talking about yoh okay, yeah I got

722
01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:01.800
that one. Okay, yeah,
wow, should be I'll double. This

723
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:09.280
has been real fun. As we
conclude, what what's ther takeaway on these

724
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:15.719
new mummies? Because is it those? Is it the new mummies that the

725
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:21.000
Americans are are interested in in?
Uh, it's all of the about it's

726
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:25.760
everything. It's Maria, it's the
two small ones, the original ones,

727
01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:29.800
these new ones, you know,
and I'm sure this won't be the end,

728
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:34.359
you know. I mean there's people
digging stuff up. I see stories

729
01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:41.520
emerging all the time out of uh
chilling, the out of comma. You

730
01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:45.720
know. I think I think as
we become kind of normalized to this stuff,

731
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:50.119
more and more scientists will step up
and want to want to test it.

732
01:08:50.640 --> 01:09:00.239
Uh, you know, I think
I think the takeaway is that no

733
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:04.520
one is claiming we know what these
are. Okay, it's very unlikely.

734
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:12.640
It's very unlikely that it's a hoax. That's why we called our film that's

735
01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:15.880
gonna be coming out this summer,
this is not a hoax, because when

736
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:20.319
we got there, we're like,
oh, this is not a hoax like

737
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.760
we thought it was. We feel
like screaming from the rooftop. Oh my

738
01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:27.640
god, it's not a hoax.
So the film will present all the research

739
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.159
that's been done to date. Everyone's
got a theory, but we don't know.

740
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:34.319
Yeah, do you have a name
for your documentary? Are you still

741
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:38.439
in the process of entity? This
is not a hoax? That's the name.

742
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:45.079
Oh, this is not a hoax. H okay? Uh? And

743
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:48.560
where are you Where are you gonna
be playing this small venues like conferences and

744
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:54.039
things like that, or Yeah,
we we might be, assuming everything's done

745
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:59.279
in time, we might be showing
a sneak peek of some scenes at Contact

746
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:04.039
in the Desert. Well, we'll
be speaking this year, but yeah,

747
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:08.800
otherwise it'll go out. We have
distribution. It will go out for why

748
01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:13.840
digital release this summer. Okay,
Hey, give us your website so people

749
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:17.000
can can read more about you.
I don't have a website, but you

750
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:23.840
can follow me on Twitter or X. I guess at broke Back UFO is

751
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:33.439
me and for all my hot takes
on UFO news, et cetera. O.

752
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:38.079
Yeah, yeah, Michael Mazzola.
All right, so are you on

753
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:42.319
Facebook? I am not? Just
Twitter? Okay, just Twitter? All

754
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:45.960
right. Hey, this is fascinating, and thank you for updating us on

755
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:53.560
these highbred humans. I'd sure like
to know a great deal more about them,

756
01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:56.720
and I wish that we'd have more
buy in. But it looks like

757
01:10:56.840 --> 01:11:00.479
from the US, it looks like
it's slowly happening. So perhaps your your

758
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:10.920
prognosis that simply because of the overwhelming
number of research people that are involved in

759
01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:13.920
it, that the Americans are finally
saying, Okay, we need to look

760
01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:18.439
at this a little closer. It'll
be It'll be a slow process, but

761
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:23.199
there's there's a shift. Eventually the
truth will come out, you know.

762
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:26.359
And if we're not the ones to
make the shift happen, that's fine,

763
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:29.560
you know. We will make our
contribution with this film and we'll move on.

764
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:34.359
But eventually the truth will come out
and maybe maybe this will blow up

765
01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:39.880
in our faces and it's just this
incredibly elaborate hoax. Uh, And then

766
01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.640
we'll make a film about that.
We'll make a film about the most amazing

767
01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:48.319
medical hoax ever. You know.
Yeah, very expensive, if it's a

768
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:53.079
hoax, it's very expensive. You're
right. So all right, hey man,

769
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:56.279
thank you for spending some time,
and we'll have you back when you

770
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:06.840
officially release your documentary. I would
love that, thanks, Cliff. I

771
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:15.920
keep hoping for some miracle of revelation, information, data, research, explanation

772
01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:24.760
of hybrids in our past. Obviously, this is evidence of beings walking the

773
01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:30.000
earth thousand a thousand plus years ago, but are there hybrids among us?

774
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:36.520
You know? What's going on?
And why isn't our government more fully involved

775
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:41.119
in this? Why do we have
to have it covered up? Why is

776
01:12:41.159 --> 01:12:49.239
it always a fear of our response
to alien interventions? Hybrid beings likely from

777
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:56.920
another planetary system, and are they
connected with the UAPs, the UFOs,

778
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:04.199
even the undergrounds they under excuse me, the underground and underwater bases that are

779
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:11.119
quite prevalent that the military regularly reports
on. Why do we have to be

780
01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:15.840
kept in the dark. Why can't
our media, Why can't the military,

781
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:21.520
Why can't our governmental agencies just say, Look, we are part of a

782
01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:28.199
collective of humanoids that live in our
cosmos? Is it so hard for them?

783
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:36.520
Are we so backwards and high strung
that we can't handle evidence of alien

784
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:43.359
race? Apparently? So? Really
apparently so? You know, and you've

785
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:47.920
heard me say this a billion times, is this little piece of paper that

786
01:13:48.039 --> 01:13:56.199
NASA requisition from the Brookings Institute known
as the Brookings Report, really the foundation

787
01:13:56.359 --> 01:14:02.479
for this paranoia, for this lack
of clarity that we just can't seem to

788
01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:06.199
get over, or I should say
the military can't seem to get over themselves

789
01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:12.279
when it comes to revealing important data. And this is probably why I'm so

790
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:16.199
damn fascinated in it and have been
fascinated for thirty plus years. Is the

791
01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:24.560
fact that these vehicles, unmanned and
manned vehicles, these creatures highbred part human

792
01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:27.279
part not you know, and the
other thing I was thinking about. I'll

793
01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:31.720
bring this up a really quickly.
Years ago I interviewed people like Bud Hopkins,

794
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:41.279
doctor John Mack, and others who
had written extensively of what they believed

795
01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:48.279
was a hybridization program going on between
aliens and humans. Women were being abducted,

796
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:57.479
They're having their ovum eggs removed,
and then they were brought back months

797
01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:03.720
sometimes years later, and the the
alien aliens would tell them that there's a

798
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:09.000
child here that we want you to
meet, and then the woman would meet

799
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:14.000
the child and the child would be
identified as theirs. You know, didn't

800
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:15.800
look anything well. I mean,
it looked partially human, but there was

801
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:25.399
also hyghbred with an alien. What's
going on? Is this creature that we

802
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:30.920
saw in this interview and discussed in
this interview, is this one of these

803
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:41.279
hybrids? Were they taking ovum and
sperm from ancient Earth humans? What the

804
01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:46.560
hell is going on? And why? Why bother We don't know. It's

805
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:50.960
a really big question. If you're
interested in hybrids, get Bud Hopkins book

806
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:57.000
Intruders, and then also John Max's
book is fairly blunt. The title is

807
01:15:57.119 --> 01:16:08.560
Abduction and he's a Harvard site psychiatrists
that wrote extensively, not only on American

808
01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:13.399
abductions, but worldwide abductions, and
in many cases, and this is really

809
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:19.479
weird. In many cases he discovered
that the experience of being abducted and taken

810
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on these ships, sometimes taken out
of the Earth's orbit and into other areas

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of the cosmos was pleasant for people, was pleasant for the women, and

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they guided them and let them know
that they needed this for study. You

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know, I can't remember the details. If they were saying we needed to

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repopulate or planet it or not.
That could be guesswork on my part,

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so don't take me directly at that. But there's a lot of interesting studies

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that have been done on alien interactions, and these hybrids are very, very

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curious. It just adds to the
intrigue, the intrigue of wanting to know

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what's going on with Earth lanes.
God help us, we need to know,

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We need to know. I am
of the firm belief that as soon

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as we have an understanding that we
are not alone, that we are part

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of a perhaps collective, or that
we're not I mean that we're part of

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a planetary system of beings associated with
other planets. Once we know this,

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we are changed forever. Maybe that's
the crux of it. Maybe the powers

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that be know that as soon as
we find out, we're not going to

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be the same, everything's going to
change. And maybe that's the other thing.

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Religions are not going to be able
to have their tight grip on us.

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You must follow the Bible, you
must follow Christ Mary whoever else they

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want to put up on the altar
and tell us to pray to That would

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change that. Perhaps, you know
I said this before as well, why

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don't they ask people in the social
media? Wy don't they ask Google,

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Instagram, X all the other social
media? Why don't they ask them for

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their opinions? They would be blown
out of their chairs because everybody, for

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the most part, I'd say,
they would say, yes, we want

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to know, No, we're not
afraid. Bring it on. You gotta

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wonder what the hell's going on Sometimes
who's in the driver's seat with some of

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these decisions of information repression? So
wow, Hey, I want to mention

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that the holidays are coming up.
Spring break is just well, it's still

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kind of going on for some people. But if you're making your holiday plans,

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your vacation plans or just want to
get away. Consider the Earth Earth

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Ancients group of tours. We got
April twenty sixth through the ninth of May

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in Egypt. We have a summer
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fourth. Then we finished the year
in Mexico in the Yucatan, which has

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just beautiful ruins and pyramids that we
can climb. That's November eighth through the

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seventeenth. All these itineraries, all
these tours are listed on Earth Ancients dot

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a big surprise that Ed Barnhard and
I are working on an Easter Island tour

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for twenty twenty five. That's going
to be a mind blower. That's you

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know, we're going to take only
a handful of people. By the way,

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any tours that you are interested in
and you want more information, send

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me an email at Earth Ancients for
you the number four of the letter you

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at gmail dot com and I'll get
back to you. A lot of our

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tours are out of the country,
and people don't try a lot of people

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don't travel out of the country and
they want to go Hey, what's going

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on here? What's going on there? I'd say, we don't put anyone

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in danger. Every place we go
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doctor Ed, Barnhard Mohammed, Mimo
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got top people. So you're never
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out and join us for more information, earthacients dot Com, Forward slash Tours

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check it out. All right,
that's it for this program. I want

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to think my guest today, Michael
Missoula, coming to us from Hollywood,

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California. As always the team of
Gail Tour, Mark Foster and everyone who

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makes this thing happen. You guys
rock all right, take care of me

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well and we will talk to you
next time. Audio School