WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:11.640 day. Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we 3 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:16.000 are get off our show, idiot, the kids are playing or turning off 4 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.679 your cultures are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold 5 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:24.039 Play Inner Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:28.600 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:42.439 Now? Here's Nick Coffee? When I can't think of anything clever to 8 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:48.439 throw out there on social media when the show starts, I usually go with 9 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:55.679 four or five different ways to entice the listeners to I guess both from their 10 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:59.359 Twitter experience, and then join us here for Coffee and Company. Fuel by 11 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:03.159 Thorntons Soun's Talk seven ninety It's go time. That's one of them. Today 12 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:08.439 I went with it's time shall we with a question mark? Allow me into 13 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:11.920 your ears? Is what I've used before, But I got to I don't 14 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.000 know if any of those are great, John. I mean, I it'd 15 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:17.400 be better if I just put out a you know, a full list of 16 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:21.040 things we're going to discuss. But I've actually I take the stance that that 17 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.079 actually doesn't drive a whole lot of people to tune in. You know, 18 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:27.680 I think you would would hope that people will be curious. Hey, I 19 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:32.319 wonder what they're going to discuss today. I wonder what opinion they'll share about 20 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:34.719 this and that. So sometimes I wonder if it's even worth sending out the 21 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.319 tweet, right, I mean, it can't hurt, right, John, 22 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:40.439 Yeah, that's a good point, especially if you just if people aren't thinking 23 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.920 about it and they come across your timeline, like, you know what, 24 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.799 let's tune in things out. I really wish we were able to pull off 25 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:49.920 the live stream like we did for what we had a few weeks there, 26 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.319 didn't we and then it got shut down, which again experiment. Yeah, 27 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.359 I do understand why we were told we were not allowed to do that, 28 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:01.840 meaning stream the show live on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, along with you 29 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:06.439 know it being live on the radio and on iHeart Radio. But I with 30 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:12.280 the way technology is advancing at a rapid rapid rate, sure and like surely 31 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:14.599 there'll be a time where like that's what we do, right, Like it's 32 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:16.240 almost just a part of it. It's like how we do this because again, 33 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.960 like technologic, and to be honest, some people are already doing that. 34 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:23.280 But anyways, welcome in everybody. Happy Monday, hope you had a 35 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.240 good weekend. As mentioned, it is Coffee and Company. We are fueled 36 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.719 by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety nit coffee. That is me, 37 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.479 the company man, mister John Alden alongside today on a beautiful Monday, a 38 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:35.560 little warm for my liking, but you know, the sun is shining. 39 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:40.000 And I told John before the show started today that this week is the Hillview 40 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:45.439 Fair, which for those who don't know about the Hillview Fair, I can't 41 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:50.800 really put. I can't nothing I could say could really give you a true 42 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.520 feel for what the experience is like. And yes, I can make fun 43 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:58.520 of the Hillview Fair because I'm from Hellview, That's right. I ain't first 44 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:00.520 class, but I ain't white trash, you know what I'm saying. That's 45 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.479 just that's those are my people and it's the ultimate people watching spot. But 46 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:08.639 I do believe that the time is run out here like this this. Uh, 47 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:12.439 I wouldn't call it a prank. But my kids, you know, 48 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:15.319 they they've never been to Disney. My daughter, she's special needs, so 49 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:19.680 you know, she's she's she knows what it is, but it's not something 50 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:22.840 she's always she hears her friends talk about it or people that she knows, 51 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:24.240 and you know, she's not one to say, oh, I want to 52 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:28.080 go. My son a little bit different, but he's you know, he's 53 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:30.599 always been young and now he's getting old. He's four now. But we 54 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:34.360 we would take the kids to the Hillvy Fair and we wouldn't like, you 55 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:38.039 know, really manipulate them, but like when they would ask about Disney, 56 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:40.520 or they'd hear about Disney, and they'd want to know, like, you 57 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:45.560 know, hey, my cousins or my friends from daycare, they went to 58 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:49.120 Disney. Have I been to Disney, Daddy? And I'm like, oh, 59 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:52.000 yeah, don't you remember you rode the you rode the ferris wheel that 60 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.599 was put together with duct tape? Remember that weird guy, that Carney who 61 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:59.039 you know, I had to make sure, you know, he wasn't doing 62 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:00.599 some funny stuff over like, yeah, yeah, that was Disney. It 63 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:02.719 was great. Oh yeah, it was fun. Well, I you know, 64 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:05.360 I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get away with that anymore. 65 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:08.479 I think this will be the test, John, if we take the 66 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:12.840 kids to the Hilly Fair and try to say something about it being Disney. 67 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.319 I think both will probably be like, all right, it's up, like 68 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:17.560 the jigs up. Yeah, it's up. Like there's especially knowing now while 69 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:19.800 we are, you know, if we go, which I'm sure we will 70 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:25.000 at some point. There cousins, my brother in law and his wife and 71 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:29.360 kids. They're at Disney right now. So anyways, if you ever wanted 72 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:33.199 to really take in a great I mean, I guess you call it an 73 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:38.839 event where people watching is top tier. The Hillview Fair is exactly that, 74 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.120 you'd be a good case study. I'd love to whenever you even take your 75 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:46.240 kids down to Disney, I'm curious how you would be in that scenario. 76 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.439 Oh man, it's going as adults like I did, me and my wife 77 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:51.079 and some friends, that's one thing, But taking your kids down that's a 78 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:58.560 whole other experience. I've always said that there's just no reason we would ever 79 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:00.920 do it, because my wife and I've been on the same page that the 80 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:06.639 cost and just the hassle it would just make it to where like, is 81 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:11.040 it really worth it? We can do other great things with our kids where 82 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:15.319 they're gonna have fun, But as they've gotten older and they still haven't gone, 83 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.519 and a lot of people they know have gone. It's made me think, 84 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:23.480 okay, well maybe maybe we should look into doing it, and we 85 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:25.680 haven't yet. But it used to be, oh, hell no, you 86 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.160 all have fun, because I swear I used to hear from everybody who went 87 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:31.600 to Disney with their kids that, yeah, man, it was it was 88 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.920 two things. The kids loved it, you should have seen the look on 89 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:40.319 their face and then but it was also hell and I never want to go 90 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.399 back like that. That's what a lot of parents would would tell me. 91 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.519 I'm sure some parents see it, you know, view it differently and look 92 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.079 at it as a great experience and they go every single year. But when 93 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:53.480 we did Disney on Ice, we did that a couple of times at the 94 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:58.319 Young Center, and obviously all the Disney characters that you would see at Disney 95 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.720 World are there and their ice scared and they're singing and performing. Seeing how 96 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:05.600 excited my kids were, especially my daughter, to see like Elsa and whatnot 97 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:10.839 like that made it to Okay, if that reaction, that emotion from her 98 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.399 is what it's gonna be while we're there, then you know we need to 99 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.480 go. Because that would be a lot of fun. But here's what I 100 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:18.639 do know. I'm not the one who makes plans. I'm not the one 101 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:23.040 who makes arrangements. So like it's only gonna happen if the wife just decides 102 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.480 to get a wild hair and say we're going to Disney, and I would 103 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:29.160 tell you that I believe she's probably more anti Disney than me. That's that's 104 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:36.600 interesting. Yeah, well we do share the same thoughts on like big like 105 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:41.279 me, Disney to me just seems like extravagant as far as the amount of 106 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:44.439 people like it, you know, just crowded. You all need to go 107 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.959 during the lines, Yeah, like, which sucks. The off season really 108 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.600 is prime sports season. Yeah, there's really no reason to go at that 109 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:53.199 point. Yeah, but I mean if it's just a day, I could 110 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.360 maybe pull something off. But yeah, yeah, anyways, let's uh, 111 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:00.839 let's get started here with what I think are the two most talked about things 112 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:05.240 right now. One is on the local side among Louisville fans, and the 113 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:10.680 other I think is what is the most talked about thing nationally right now in 114 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:14.680 sports that everybody seems to have an opinion on. We'll start with the Louisville 115 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:16.720 side. And I don't want to act as if this has been the conversation 116 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:23.319 all weekend among the Louisville fans everywhere, because that's I'm sure not the case. 117 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:31.079 But we talked on Friday about the Coleman Hawkins recruitment in Louisville. As 118 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.639 we know, a few weeks ago before they landed what three more bigs, 119 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:43.680 Noah Waterman, Case and Big Frank. I mean they were talking to Colemanhawkins 120 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:49.879 involved. I think that's the exact word Trilli Donovan used to describe their interest 121 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:55.800 or whatnot. And then he sent out the tweet last week then deleted it, 122 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.759 which again at that point, it was okay, is this guy just 123 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:03.560 trying to potentially get fans riled up about the thought of him playing for them? 124 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.759 Is he trying to insinuate Louisville is involved to maybe get more money from 125 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:09.560 other schools that are pursuing him. And you know, I don't know, 126 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:15.759 but I think on Friday I mentioned they do have the ability to add another 127 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.240 player if they want, And what I mean by that is, I don't 128 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:22.920 know what the exact plan is, but thirteen scholarships have been have been used, 129 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:24.800 but they can I don't know how they're going to do it, but 130 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:26.839 they know and that's all that matters. They're going to be able to add 131 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:31.079 somebody if they want. In fact, there's actually still recruiting an unsigned high 132 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:35.200 school kid too, so you know, if they can make it work, 133 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.919 hell yeah. But I remember thinking on Friday, I think I might have 134 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.840 said this. By Monday, we'll kind of get a feel for is this 135 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.519 real or not? Right? Was he just kind of trolling us and seeing 136 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:50.039 if Louisville would maybe get back involved, if he could get the fan base 137 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:54.519 fired up, and you know, do they have enough money? There's some 138 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.399 people that have mentioned that the players that have committed to Louisville that are not 139 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.960 US citizens, you know, they're INNIL is a little bit different, right, 140 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:05.080 Like you can't they can't make NIL money the way others can. If 141 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.000 you remember that was a situation with Oscar sheib Way. Those guys are probably 142 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.480 still going to get paid, but I think even some of them, in 143 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:15.679 fact, one of them for sure. And I'll stand corrected if I'm told 144 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:16.879 this is not the case by somebody that would know more than me. But 145 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.960 I think Khalifa will not be getting INIL money. While he doesn't play because 146 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:28.440 he's rehabbing his knee. And same thing for Kobe who transferred from Charleston. 147 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.559 He's not going to play next year. He's a Canadian citizen. So like 148 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.360 if they got to do a workaround to get money to those guys through nil, 149 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.240 or maybe they get to wait a year to pay them through nil because 150 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.480 they're not going to play this year, that does leave you money that you 151 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:46.039 could potentially go use and get a good player. And also I have a 152 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:48.440 feeling with the momentum that Pat Kelsey has right now, not only with fans, 153 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.639 but with those that you know are able to throw some money here and 154 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.919 there to help out. Like if someone knew, hey, we need this 155 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:58.879 to make it work to get this guy, you think he can help out. 156 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:01.759 I think he would not have a difficult time finding somebody that would in 157 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.720 fact help out. So I was hopeful, but I didn't want to buy 158 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.600 on Friday. I didn't want to get my hopes up and really think this 159 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.639 was something to follow closely and consider to be like a real thing. Well 160 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:20.879 then Friday night, Pat Kelsey on Twitter did something that I don't think is 161 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.399 an issue at all. I don't you know, I don't really get it. 162 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:28.320 But on Friday, let's see what time it was. I felt like 163 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.240 it was no, it was. I thought it was later than it was. 164 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.480 It was eight forty six. He sent out a tweet that said, 165 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.240 Joker in the Thief if you know you know, and then he said the 166 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.120 revived. He said the revival and then the fire emoji. And for those 167 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.240 who don't know, Joker in the Thief is the song that is played I 168 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:48.919 think right before the last TV timeout in the second half at the Young Center, 169 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.519 and it gets I mean, it gets the crowd rocking like no other 170 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.879 song they play, you know. I remember players that have played here before, 171 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.799 I know, Montrez Harrell and even Donovan Mitchell have at times randomly brought 172 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.279 up like man, when that song would come on at the YOUM Center, 173 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:07.080 it would be rocking, which is true. So a lot of fans, 174 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.399 I guess, saw that and thought it was him given one of his signals. 175 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.240 Because coaches do that. Now, by the way, I don't know 176 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.879 if every coach does it, but a lot of coaches it'll maybe maybe it's 177 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:20.799 an assistant or maybe it's your head coach that'll send out some kind of cryptic 178 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.559 you know, maybe it's not cryptic. Maybe it's just the sign. Right. 179 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.879 I can't until they sign a letter or become, you know, officially 180 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.679 part of the program, I can't actually publicly comment on him. So let 181 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.720 me just give you the hint that we got somebody and sometimes you know exactly 182 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.480 who it is, right, if somebody's visited that kind of stuff. So 183 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.879 Pat Kelsey, though he's he's been consistent. He's been tweeting out the Zach 184 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:46.399 Bryan revival link on Apple Music, and that is that has been his sign. 185 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:50.279 You know, there's a Kentucky assistant coach for Mark Pope. I think 186 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.519 that does something like a boom. And to be honest, I think I 187 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:56.720 don't know if he was the first one, but I think it was Vince 188 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:01.039 Merrow doing yachtzi for Kentucky football. That that's been around for a long time. 189 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:01.799 I'm not sure if they still do that or not. But like, 190 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:07.639 this is not that uncommon, but a lot of fans saw that and thought 191 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.600 that that meant something along the lines of Coleman Hawkins, like it's happening everybody 192 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:16.240 beyond standby, he's about to commit. And I didn't see it that way 193 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.840 at all, And I'm surprised that there were that many that felt like he 194 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:26.360 was misleading us. And there's some then look right now understandably. So my 195 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.879 man Pat Kelsey can do no wrong. I mean, this is the honeymoon 196 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.399 and he can't coach a game. All he can do is try to get 197 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:37.200 the fans excited about this new era and put together a roster, and he's 198 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.720 done both of those things almost perfectly at this point. I think, not 199 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:41.639 to say that he has a perfect team, but I mean all things, 200 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:46.879 consider thirteen new players, considering who he's added, I mean, Louis was 201 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.120 going to be preseason, not top twenty five probably, but around there. 202 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:54.799 And that's that's credit to him. So I don't think fans are like upset, 203 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:56.080 but some of them are like, welly, we gotta he can't. 204 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.320 He can't do that to us, Like he's got to know. Man, 205 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:03.799 we take this stuff so seriously. We are lunatics. We are crazy. 206 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.399 Any kind of little signal could get us getting our hopes up about something. 207 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.320 And although that may be true, like that's an that's that's an US thing. 208 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:15.039 And I guess you all think. I mean again, I'm I'm a 209 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:16.840 fan like all of you but I didn't see that and think that meant anything, 210 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.559 and a lot of people did so. I don't know if there's any 211 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.919 scenario where Coleman Hawkins ends up here. In fact, I haven't heard a 212 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:31.000 whole lot about his recruitment over the week. Now, again, I wasn't 213 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.720 following it as closely as others. I didn't spend much time in the truly 214 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.440 got them in discord. You know, I had a you know, I 215 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.039 had a weekend with my kid's birthday, and you know, now, I 216 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.159 don't try not to go looking for that kind of stuff, you know, 217 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.799 until you know it's time to actually, you know, get caught up in 218 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:48.720 that kind of stuff. And right now, you know, I don't. 219 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.759 I don't really know where Coleman Hawkins is going to visit, where he's considering. 220 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.840 But I'll say what I said last week. If they can make it 221 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.519 work, that would be humongous. I think that's actually the kind of addition 222 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.519 that would give you. I mean, you already have a good roster that 223 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:05.200 I like, that I think is a tournament caliber roster. I believe that. 224 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.679 I think this is a tournament caliber team. But if you added Coleman 225 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:11.639 Hawkins, it would take it to where you feel even more so like, 226 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.679 yeah, we better make the tournament. But also I think nationally folks would 227 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.399 say, okay, on paper, maybe I do have Louisville pencil in here 228 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.440 at number twenty one or something like that, because again you're talking about I 229 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.600 mean, I think what I love some of these dudes that like nobody seems 230 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:33.879 to talk about. Meaning I think Cater trejoa at Long Beach State, is 231 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:39.120 going to be a really high impact guy that will be a fan favorite. 232 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.360 I think Javon Hadley has quietly kind of just been I've been forgotten about, 233 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.759 but like he was a really good player at Colorado and can do a little 234 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:52.159 bit of everything. You know, Rain Smith, we didn't watch him play 235 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.039 because you know, he played at Charleston. They weren't always on television, 236 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.960 but he's a lights out shooter Reno, which by the way, a great 237 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.440 nickname that I I don't know if Pat Kelsey gave him that or not. 238 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:05.000 But anyways, like I really like a lot of these guys on this roster. 239 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.080 I mean, case in Pryor, I think he could be I mean, 240 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.759 he could be an NBA player, I think at some point. But 241 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.440 I think as far as like, and some will say this doesn't matter, 242 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.919 right because we'll find out how good they are once they play. But if 243 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.679 you're somebody that is really wanting there to be some more love nationally, not 244 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:22.000 just people saying, wow, Pat Kelsey's off to a pretty good start. 245 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:24.519 I like what he's done with his roster. But people saying, Okay, 246 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.879 this Louisville team, they might be a top four ACC team, they might 247 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.679 be a top three ACC team. I think the addition of somebody like Coleman 248 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:37.279 Hawkins would turn the conversation to that. And you know, even if they 249 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.279 you know, conversation aside, I don't care if anybody talked about it. 250 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:43.519 If you could add Coleman Hawkins, he's a good enough player that you would, 251 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.039 you would do it. I just have no clue if it's like even 252 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.440 being looked into. But for what it's worth, it it's not a situation 253 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.320 where they're worried about making room because there's also again, there's a kid named 254 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:58.440 Jamari Phillips who is a twenty twenty four kid, meaning he's going to be 255 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:04.519 a a a freshman this upcoming season. He is available. He opened his 256 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:10.679 recruitment, was committed to Arizona in Louisville, along with Arizona State, Kansas, 257 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:15.200 Florida BYU Oregon. I mean, those are schools that are recruiting him. 258 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:18.240 So Louisville like the fact that they're still reaching out to players that are 259 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.159 available and there aren't that many left. It tells you that they're not worried 260 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:22.759 about room, like they'll add somebody if they can make it happen. And 261 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:26.759 I mean if that's Coleman Hawkins, then hell yeah, I really hope that 262 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.240 they could make that work. Now will it happen? No clue? I 263 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.799 mean, does Woodson have anything like that? John for those who don't know, 264 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:37.559 John is our Iu, who's your correspondent covers Indiana. Like, is 265 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:41.080 Woodson even active on Twitter? Yas he has a Twitter? And it's weird. 266 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.320 It's like at Mike Woodson NBA. So he still has his old handle 267 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:47.639 from when he was in the NBA, but he's not very active. I 268 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:49.919 don't think he has like a signal similar to many other coaches. And I 269 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:53.399 think it's cool because again, anything to get your fan base excited, engaging 270 00:16:53.440 --> 00:17:00.200 with your fans, I think I've always known that that matters. But excuse 271 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.080 me, I'm not getting emotional. I had to fight off a burp there. 272 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.559 It's always mattered, but like I learned how much we needed and how 273 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:07.960 much it's important. Whenever we had a coach here that didn't do it at 274 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.319 all, and that was Kenny Paine. Maybe it was an emotion thing. 275 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:12.759 Anytime I start talking about him, I just get PTSD and want to cry 276 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:15.920 because of how you know, how bad that was. But you know, 277 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.559 we'll see again. I wish I could give you more information, but I 278 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:23.119 don't have more information. So I was wrong. I thought about Monday, 279 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.359 we know, hey, is this real or not? And I don't, 280 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:29.240 you know, maybe maybe it has been debunked and it's not happening and I 281 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.880 just don't know that. But we shall see, all right. So something 282 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:34.640 else we're not going to get into right now that I think is I think 283 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:41.200 it's safe to say the most talked about thing nationally in sports right now, 284 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:47.759 national shows that are on television, the Roundtable shows, First Take Around the 285 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:52.279 Horn. We'll talk about it later. Pat McAfee he made I mean, 286 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:55.359 he really got some attention on his show talking about it earlier. Today. 287 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.799 It's the Caitlin Clark WNBA stuff like it's all anybody's talk about Becau. Everybody 288 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:02.480 seem I have a strong opinion on it, and I do too, and 289 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:04.440 I'm not gonna tease the rest of this show. Hey, everybody, stick 290 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:07.319 around. We're gonna talk about the WNBA. You better lock in, you 291 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:11.880 better cancel your plans the rest of the afternoon, folks, we're talking w 292 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:15.480 NBA. And I don't mean to mock the WNBA, but like, let's 293 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.880 also not treat this for anything other than what it is. Kaylen Clark and 294 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:25.200 how she's being treated in the WNBA has made the WNBA the talking point, 295 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:30.680 maybe like it's never been before. And I don't think that's an exaggeration drama. 296 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:38.000 It works. It's entertainment and there's certainly some drama here. So we'll 297 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:44.000 get to that because I've got I've got, I think a surprising opinion for 298 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:45.880 those who know how I feel about Kaylyn Clark and how I talked about Kaylen 299 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:48.799 Clark, and it's not me painting her as a victim. It's not like 300 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:51.960 I've completely flipped it. And I now think she's this great, awesome human 301 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:52.920 being. I don't know, or she may be great, but I think 302 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:57.799 Kaitlyn Clark made it quite clear that despite being one of the best basketball players 303 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:03.079 of all time on the women's side, I mean, I don't think she 304 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:07.039 carried herself very well, to be honest with you, So you know, 305 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:10.839 I have no problem saying that, Like I don't think she's like clearly she's 306 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:12.640 good for the game and she's brought so much attention to the women's game and 307 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:17.119 that's important, but like, you know, I think she at times acted 308 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.079 like a turd out there. Can I say that? I mean, I 309 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:22.240 know I can say it, but like when I say, like, you 310 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.319 know, is that I mean? People know what I mean? Like I 311 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:34.319 found okay because one of my kids, one of my kids was misbehaving last 312 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:37.759 week and I wasn't angry. I just said, why are you being a 313 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:41.559 turd? And one kid, who I didn't say it to, thought it 314 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:45.519 was really funny that I said that word. My daughter she just thought it 315 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.960 was funny because you know, she's she's silly. And then my son he 316 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:52.160 was appalled. You can't say that word. And I'm like, is that 317 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.079 that a bad word? Like I'm glad he thinks that's a bad work. 318 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:57.359 Is that'll make it to where he won't say anything close to it, but 319 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.559 like I almost felt like a poor file like that. I just call my 320 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:04.240 son something that like he thinks is you know, is he ever going to 321 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:10.880 forgive me? But I'll put it this way. She carries herself and behaves 322 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:14.000 in a way on the floor at times to where I understand why people would 323 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:18.240 think she's not the most likable person or player, and none that matters. 324 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.359 She's so good that none of it matters. So we'll get into that. 325 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:23.920 And we've got another long list of things to get to on a Monday. 326 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:29.000 We usually are very busy when it comes to when it comes to Mondays, 327 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:30.599 and I don't really feel like there's a lot to react to from the weekend. 328 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.160 But maybe I just went above and beyond to prepare for this show, 329 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.079 because yes, you may not know it if you listen, but I do, 330 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:41.640 in fact prepare. I've got a confession about the Big Twelve that I 331 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:45.480 want to share at some point. We also have the anonymous quotes from other 332 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.799 coaches in college football about the local teams. I don't know if there has 333 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:52.480 been one that's dropped yet about the other local teams, but we know what 334 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:57.000 coaches are anonymous anonymous anonymously saying about Louisville, so we can certainly get into 335 00:20:57.000 --> 00:21:02.400 that. And I got a new documentary I want to share with you guys 336 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:06.599 that I think I'm a little bit late to but it was really fascinating and 337 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:12.039 I feel like I was on the right side as far as making a smart 338 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:15.920 decision about something. And I rarely can say that, you know, I 339 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:18.680 do. I've done some dumb things, you know. I rely on other 340 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.200 people to make important decisions at times, just because you know that's me. 341 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:27.839 But Bitcoin, like I never thought bitcoin was in any way like a real 342 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:33.880 thing that like was going to take off, and I didn't realize the level 343 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.519 of like how much most of it was like a scam. I mean I 344 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:44.079 heard about like Tom Brady having that crypto company that you know crumbled. There's 345 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:48.200 all kinds of, you know, stories about people who were arrested for defrauding 346 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.519 people with it. But really smart people that you know, have a lot 347 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:57.039 of money to invest because they've probably done something smart to give themselves the opportunity 348 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.240 to have a lot of money, if you know what I'm saying, Like, 349 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.039 I just you know, the amount of people who just assumed that that 350 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:06.599 was going to be the new way that we spend money, and we no 351 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:10.839 longer use banks, Like I mean remember that Matt Damon commercial or was like 352 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:14.400 fortune, Oh yeah to Breeve. Yeah. I mean we're cringey you And 353 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:18.480 we can get into this later because you were never a bitcoin crypnoba right now. 354 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:21.720 But I do feel like your generation, like your era, like that's 355 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.559 that's I know people or at least one person that that got invested in. 356 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:27.119 Yeah, like you know what I'm saying though, Like that was like kids, 357 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.920 just so twenty seventeen ish, twenty eighteen ish, I think is when 358 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.640 it really kind of started to grow and become a bigger thing that like, 359 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.880 you know, it was clearly something everybody had heard of, even if you 360 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:38.000 didn't know a whole lot about it. And I still don't even really know 361 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:41.680 what it is, to be honest with you, but like kids first out 362 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.279 of college were all about it, and a lot of them, you know, 363 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.359 wasted probably money that they got from their parents or grandparents to invest. 364 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.400 And then some of them realized how much you could scan people. And you 365 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.119 know, that's a documentary I watched. It's about one of the I think 366 00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.200 it's called CenTra, one of the companies that you know crashed and burned Earned 367 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.359 and the I mean just the gullible people that like throw money at stuff. 368 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.319 I mean, I just it blows my mind. All right, We're with 369 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.640 you till six o'clock, so hang out again more WNBA conversation the rest of 370 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:15.279 the way. I mean, we really are going to talk about it, 371 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:18.039 so it's not like I'm, you know, trolling, But we'll get to 372 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:19.279 that on the other side, because everybody's talking about it, and I have 373 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:22.240 a different opinion I think than most. But don't go anywhere. It's Coffee 374 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.519 and Company. We are field about Thorntons right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. 375 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.000 That's right, Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven 376 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:33.640 ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us, so forget. You can take 377 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.720 us with you wherever you go. Listen live on the out radio app Listen 378 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.680 live at seven ninety Louisville dot com. And if you want to be a 379 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:41.640 part of the show, you can do that too. You can give us 380 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.440 a call at five O two five seven one seventy nine hundred and the LNN 381 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:49.000 Federal Credit Union text line is five O two sixty five three zero seven ninety. 382 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:52.359 So we had a text coming in towards the beginning of the show. 383 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.480 We were talking about the Coleman Hawkins situation and said, it's tough to get 384 00:23:56.480 --> 00:24:00.160 bummed about something that you never really expect it. If Coleman Hawkins ends up 385 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.680 at Louisville, that's great, but I'm not really going to think about it 386 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.400 until it happens. That's a good way to look at it. I mean, 387 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:08.759 you know, I'm not telling anybody not to. I mean, do 388 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:11.960 whatever you want. But that was sort of my approach, is that, 389 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:15.519 hey, if they could make that work, that'd be awesome. But I 390 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:17.960 have a tough time really knowing if it's that you know, if it's that 391 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:23.319 realistic. But again, it does seem as if they are still looking at 392 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:26.920 what's available and pursuing at least, you know, kicking the tires. I 393 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.279 guess you can say on some of the players that are out there that are 394 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:34.240 either still maybe available in the portal, like Hawkins or a freshman to be 395 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:38.599 and that young man that I mentioned earlier, that they're at least you know, 396 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.720 they've talked to. I don't know if he's going to visit I know 397 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:45.079 he's going to visit Oregon here soon. But Jiggy Phillips is what he goes 398 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.400 by. But his name is Jamari Phillips. He's a four star guard who 399 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:55.039 was committed Arizona and then recently decided to reopen his recruitment. All right, 400 00:24:55.079 --> 00:25:00.640 So I'm just going to assume that you know a lot of you aren't tuning 401 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:06.079 in to watch the WNBA. I mean, I'm not. And if you 402 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:11.480 are, cool, but if you are, it's probably because Caitlin Clark is 403 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.359 in the is in the WNBA now, and she's I mean, this is 404 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:22.039 this is next level. The WNBA has never had a player enter their league 405 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.319 with this much notoriety, this much hype. I mean, I don't know 406 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.920 if there's ever been not to say she's the best women's player of all time, 407 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.079 because I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked 408 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:33.920 if she is, but I wouldn't be shocked if maybe, you know, 409 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.480 there's plenty of others that would have a claim over her, And look, 410 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.640 she just started her pro career. So regardless of what you think of hers, 411 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:42.119 how as far as how good she is, she moves the needle unlike 412 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:47.559 anybody I've ever seen a women's basketball and it's good for the sport, and 413 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.759 you know that has led to people wanting to watch. Now, you could 414 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:55.200 also be someone like myself, who you know, I'm not anti WNBA, 415 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:56.960 but I don't want to be a liar and phony. I act like I 416 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:02.240 watched the product, didn't care about it because nothing personal. It's just I 417 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:03.119 don't you know, I think some people are afraid to say that, Like 418 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.799 the WNBA doesn't have a huge audience. I mean that's why the league is, 419 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.880 you know, not amy. They don't make money. They cost a 420 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.640 lot of money. So I don't know if that'll ever be you know, 421 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.119 flipped around to where they generate so much revenue. But you know, either 422 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.119 way, like I'm one of many people that like sports, likes basketball, 423 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.160 but I just don't tune in to watch the WNBA. But you're gonna hear 424 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:33.079 and see what's going on with Kaitlyn Clark because of the level of buzz that 425 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.759 she has created for herself. And I always felt like Caitlyn Clark was as 426 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:42.079 good as advertised, never thought she was overrated, never thought she was you 427 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.440 know, getting all the calls. I mean, I'm sure she does get 428 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.440 favorable calls, at least when she was in college. You know why, 429 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.519 because she's a legendary player. Legendary players, legendary coaches have a little bit 430 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.920 more leeway with officials than anybody else. That's just human nature. So I 431 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.240 always thought she was great. But I also, you know, without knowing 432 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.960 her at all, as far as what I see, I don't really like 433 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.359 her. And when I say that, it's not as if I can say 434 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.759 she's an awful person because I don't know her, never will. But like 435 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.119 the way she carries herself, the way she acts to some of her teammates, 436 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.880 the way she has, you know, been mouthed to some of her 437 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.960 coaches, she just doesn't to me, as far as a player, seem 438 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.720 like she has a very likable attitude. And I know some are thinking, 439 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:27.119 well, hey, would you say that about a guy. Yeah? Absolutely. 440 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.039 I mean it's one thing to be fiery, That's not what I'm talking 441 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.880 about, because you know, she'll scream and she'll get emotional and into the 442 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.440 game like anybody else. I mean, sometimes that can be cringy no matter 443 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.000 who you are, but like that's part of it. It's an emotional game 444 00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:45.720 I'm talking about, you know, the flopping, the you know, theatrics 445 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.279 with her body language when she when of her teammates didn't pass her a ball. 446 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:53.279 You know, she's even had maybe not like cheap shots to where she's 447 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.720 out there trying to hurt somebody. But you know there's been some plays where 448 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:57.839 you're like, Okay, that was kind of dirty. Does make her a 449 00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.839 criminal? Does really make her a lot different than a lot of players, 450 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:07.480 But like you know, this is what I said during the Kaitlyn Clark the 451 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:15.480 ending of her college career. She to me, as I mentioned, doesn't 452 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.200 really carry herself in a way that makes her super likable with all the stuff 453 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:23.839 I just laid out. And if a guy was in that position, there 454 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.039 would be there would be hate, Like I don't want to say they'd be 455 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.759 a villain, but like there would be energy towards a dude doing that that 456 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.640 really isn't there for a woman. And I don't think it's because it's a 457 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.680 sexist thing. I think it's just because there's nobody else like Kaitlyn Clark that 458 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.160 has brought that much attention to the sport, and it is a good thing 459 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.039 for sports. It's a good thing for women's Basketball's a good thing for women 460 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.480 and nobody wants to be anti that, including myself. So you know, 461 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.799 I've felt a certain way about her, Like I rooted against IOWA all the 462 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.799 time, just because you know, I just wasn't a big fan. And 463 00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:59.839 I guess that's a weak, lame way for me to say I don't like 464 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:03.160 her. Is that that's a really nice way to say, right, I 465 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.839 mean, like a good counterexample is like people were root against the patriotscause they 466 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.519 didn't like Tom Brady. Yeah, And look, sometimes when you're when you're 467 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:15.279 on top of the world, it becomes unfortunately. I think it's just how 468 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.400 we are wired as humans. There's gonna be some that just worship you and 469 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.720 jump on the bandwagon and worship and there's gonna be some that can't even really 470 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:23.440 put her finger on why but they don't like you. They want to see 471 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:26.799 you fall down a little bit like that. I don't know why we are 472 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:32.720 wired that way, but we are. So what I think is happening is 473 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:37.759 that now that she's in the w NBA, maybe other I mean I got 474 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:45.279 two theories here, others in the league maybe have seen the way she carries 475 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.400 herself, and they want to they want to go out of their way to 476 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:51.359 check her and kind of like put her in her place. I'm sure there's 477 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:56.680 some of that, but I think the the real, like obvious thing to 478 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:03.160 me as far as how nearly everybody in the WNBA is treating her. Now. 479 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:04.839 Not everybody's going out there trying to, you know, get in her 480 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.400 face and cuss her out and push her and take a cheap shot. Not 481 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.799 everybody's doing that, but clearly some of them, some players are. But 482 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.279 even her teammates, they don't defend her at all at all. Her coach 483 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.599 doesn't really take up for the wa The WAA commissioner like you gotta be careful 484 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.880 in that role. But I don't think it would have been a surprise or 485 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:29.039 a bad move for the WNBA commissioner to acknowledge that it's not great for me 486 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.839 any look, any attention they're getting as far as this, much of it 487 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.599 is good for that league. I don't care what they say, but you 488 00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.440 know, you know you would want it to be because of the way your 489 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.359 your employees in the WNBA are treating one of your new hires. Essentially like 490 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.039 that's not a good thing for optics. It's entertaining to some it gets people 491 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.240 talking, and again there's value in that, but like nobody in the WNBA 492 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.400 can like that that this is the reason why it's being discussed. So I 493 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.440 don't think it would have been a surprise or a mistake to have some level 494 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.440 of like statement on the thing. It's the commission or maybe maybe see if 495 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.000 you can get yourself on you know, what's the show in the morning, 496 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:10.119 get up and and you know, pardon my pardon the interruption, first take 497 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.079 whatever the show they got with the stephen A. Yeah, like you know, 498 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.119 Colin Cowhert even like whoever, like you know, talk about it, 499 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.440 and you know, you are the mouthpiece for your league. You're the commissioner 500 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.599 to where you could not only maybe talk this down a little bit and and 501 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.359 make it not seem as bad if people are bothered by it, but also 502 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.680 just promote your league on a platform that you usually don't get a chance to 503 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:37.160 do so. So I think everybody, and I mean everybody again, her 504 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.240 teammates, her coaches, everybody else in the league. They're jealous. It's 505 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:51.720 jealousy because Kaitlyn Clark is like there's nobody that's entered the NBA in my lifetime 506 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:56.000 that entered the WNBA like Kaitlin Clark just did, like you know, like 507 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:57.240 it just it's it's not happening before. And I know it sounds like I'm 508 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.799 acting as if she's the best player that's ever played, and who knows, 509 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.640 maybe she ends up becoming that down the line, But like other great women's 510 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:14.200 college players, didn't have the national following that Caitlyn Clark has. And there 511 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.880 are players that are in the WNBA that are accomplished more so than she was 512 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:22.079 in college as far as the team thing, and some of them even individually, 513 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.279 like Kelsey Plum. I mean, I mean, Kateln Clark broke one 514 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.680 of her records for scoring, and you know, she played for a good 515 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.519 team, but they just didn't. They didn't. They don't carry the same 516 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:38.720 attention, and I think there's clearly some jealousy there or or they just really 517 00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:43.240 don't like her, and that could be it too. And I don't sound 518 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:49.079 like a hypocrite because I've mentioned that I don't think she seems to be that 519 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:53.119 likable at times on the floor, with her attitude, body language, pouting 520 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:57.720 to teammates and refs and whatnot. So that's what's kind of been a little 521 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:02.279 ick for me. But she's no different than any player. So I have 522 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.559 a hard time thinking that these WNBA veterans have just have just you know, 523 00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.960 learned enough about her. They've been around her, they've got to know her 524 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.240 character, and they just don't like her because they think she sucks as a 525 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.559 person. I just don't buy that, I mean, because again, what 526 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:21.799 I'm telling you makes her kind of unlikable for me, the casual women's basketball 527 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.039 fan. That's every day in sports, Like people act like that all the 528 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:28.480 time. Like the athletes, athletes you know, at times can be theatrical 529 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.279 about a missed call, or maybe get on a teammate or maybe talk back 530 00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:36.160 to their coach, get a technical flop, maybe throw a cheap shot like 531 00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.000 that happens with not everybody, but like that's not uncommon, that's not something 532 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:46.680 you've never experienced before as a professional athlete. But clearly like she's I mean, 533 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:54.720 she's not very popular, it seems. And I remember the WNBA vets 534 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.680 that are still playing. I don't know a lot of their names, but 535 00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:00.599 some that are still playing now that have been playing for a long time, 536 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:05.119 and some that have no you know, like Chryl Swoops is this one that 537 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.159 that really made a fool of herself trying to talk about Kaitlyn Clark before she 538 00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:10.159 got to the WNBA because she just had no she didn't know anything, Like 539 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.039 she had no everything she said about Kaylyn Clark, which is actually not true 540 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:15.719 as far as like stats and you know, her story, that kind of 541 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.440 stuff, And it just made you think, well, yeah, they're jealous 542 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.960 that she's about to bring the spotlight to this league like nobody else ever has 543 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.840 before. And these women are bothered by that. They're not embracing that. 544 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.800 They're not you know, I don't want to go as far as and say, 545 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.800 hey, you better protect your meal ticket because I don't know if her 546 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.519 being great and bringing a following to the WNB, I mean, like you 547 00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.639 could never be that. Like I think people say that kind of tongue in 548 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:38.559 cheek, like they better be had, they better be nice to her, 549 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.960 they better protect her, you know, cause she's the meal ticket. She's 550 00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:45.079 the one thing that gave them a viewership that they've never had before. Well 551 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.840 yeah, but like you can't cater to her in the WNBA, like this 552 00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:51.000 is at the end of the day. This is a competitive thing, Like 553 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:52.199 you have to mean you should want to kill her on the floor, not 554 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.280 literally like some are trying to do it seems, but like it you know, 555 00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.320 it's not like you need to bow to her. But I never thought 556 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.920 that it would end up to this level, to where it's just like and 557 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.119 little things stand out to me when it comes to like when she gets shoved 558 00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.880 and kind of you know, sells it at times, but unsolicited, Like 559 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.280 it's almost as if that was the plan before anything happened in the game. 560 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:21.159 They were going to do something to you know, I don't know. I 561 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:22.840 don't think it gets in her head because she still performs at a really high 562 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.880 level, right, Like I don't think that you know, there's this rap 563 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.519 on her. Hey, you get in her head, get her mad, 564 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:30.360 she shuts down, Like No. I think more often than not she usually 565 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.000 ends up killing you and making you regret it. But like they just don't 566 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.239 like her. They're jealous, it seems, And I'm just curious to see, 567 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:44.159 like if it continues to happen, will the WNBA like come out with 568 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:49.400 like a press conference. You know, they I know, they they they 569 00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.239 whoever the what's her name? I think it's Kennedy, but it's Tinnity. 570 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.719 Yeah, it Trinity, Yeah, but it's Kennedy. That girl, I 571 00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.320 mean by the way, I mean, like I don't want to make this 572 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:04.760 a godgirl thing, but like I mean, just the way she handled that 573 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.159 after the fact was just embarrassing, Like clearly, you know, she got 574 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.760 all work like, and she got all work like, she got all worked 575 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:15.400 up after the fact, as if like she's the victim and she's liking and 576 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:21.400 retweeting everybody on Twitter who is saying that Caitlyn Clark got what she deserved and 577 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.000 she's gonna keep getting like for what being great? I mean, like it's 578 00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.599 just you know, and then they wouldn't take questions on it. Angel Reese 579 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:35.039 was was fine because she didn't show up through the postgame press conference because she 580 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:37.800 tried to play all where all great friends were, and then she made a 581 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.199 clown of herself by just you know, being really into the fact that like 582 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.519 her teammate pushed Kitlyn Clark down and then threw a little elbow at herself. 583 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.079 Like, look, even though I don't like Caitlyn Clark that much, she 584 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.760 doesn't deserve what she's getting But like, these people are really telling on themselves 585 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.960 as far as their character, and I don't know if they know it or 586 00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.400 not. They look emotional, they look childish, and they are jealous. 587 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.280 But yeah, Kennedy, Kennedy Carter said we grown asf which I think a 588 00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.679 lot of you guys know what that means. And y'all talking about enforcer man 589 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:15.320 gt foh Hooper shut up and also then said I ain't answering no Caitlin Clark 590 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.159 questions, immediately goes onto Twitter and won't shut up, like it's just it's 591 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.719 oh, that sounds so grown up. Yeah, it's it's you know again, 592 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:22.679 I don't want to make it well, I don't want to make it 593 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:24.800 sound as if like, well, that's you know, that's how women act, 594 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.000 because that's not what I'm saying. And I know there's already probably people 595 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.719 thinking that's what I what I mean. But like woman or man, whoever, 596 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:32.440 whatever you identify as, I don't know what gender you are, what 597 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.519 you want to be, whatever you claim, that behavior is childish and it's 598 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.239 emotional, and it's it's it's the kind of stuff that will gets you fired 599 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:44.599 from a job acting like that, all right, quick break. We'll come 600 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.960 back on the other side. Nothing but WNBA conversation from now it'll six o'clock 601 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:52.000 hang out. It's right, Coffee and company. Wrap it up our first 602 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:55.320 hour here on a Monday afternoon, taking you up till six o'clock. Don't 603 00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.119 forget. If you want to join us, you can five out two five 604 00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.599 seven one seventy nine hundred as the number. If you want to give us 605 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.079 a call. We'll go back to the text line coming up here in four 606 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.880 o'clock hour five O two sixty five three zero seven nineties. The L and 607 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.960 N Federal Credit Union text line members get more at Ellen and Federal Credit Union. 608 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.000 You can learn more and open your account today at LNFCU dot com. 609 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:20.719 All right, So there is a show on documentary, not a series, 610 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.840 but just a documentary on Netflix aut about bitcoin, and I watched it earlier 611 00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.719 today whenever I was at the gym. It's called Bitcon. And I still 612 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.519 don't know if I can really tell you a whole lot about what bitcoin is. 613 00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.280 And I know it's digital currency, but I really don't even know what 614 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:43.960 the hell that is. Like I know, like I understand it's a new 615 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.559 form of currency, and a lot of people thought maybe some still think it 616 00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:50.719 is like the future, but I've never like, what do you do with 617 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.199 it? Like how do you you know, spend it? And I don't 618 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.800 care to know, you know, it's it's not something I would ever like. 619 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.639 The only time I would ever want to know is if like we no 620 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.880 longer have USD currency, right, if I still if I if I can't 621 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:04.480 use my plastic debit cards swipe it and it works, and or if I 622 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.840 pay cash, like you know, that's that's that's what I know, and 623 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.599 that's what I need to know. But what really just like floored me is 624 00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:17.480 to see just how many people tried to get in on the wave, invest 625 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:21.599 and put a lot of their own money towards it, thinking that it would 626 00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.199 be a big payoff for him, or thinking that it would be you know 627 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.639 that they're way ahead of the curve and they're going to be, you know, 628 00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:31.960 much better off than anybody who's who's you know, still waiting around to 629 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.000 like, you know, realize that this is you know, this is this 630 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.840 is the way people are going right digital currency. But there was fifty I'm 631 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:46.480 sorry, five billion dollars invested, sorry, four point nine billion dollars invested 632 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.519 between like twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen or something like that. I guess that 633 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:58.760 was like the real big boom. Seventy eight percent of the money of that 634 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:05.519 five billion a cent was to go towards scams like not wasn't real? Like 635 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:13.159 what about was it the cool idea that you know that made that made people 636 00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.800 think like it was more real than it actually was, Like was it something 637 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.719 that were interested in? I mean, sometimes people invest money and it's just 638 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.280 about it's a good investment. I'm going to make a lot of money by 639 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.639 doing this. I don't really need to know the specifics. I need to 640 00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.800 know what I need to know, and you know, I trust you. 641 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.480 That's why we're business partners. And I'm going to invest because of what you've 642 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:37.760 really broken down as far as like the numbers, well Bitcoin, I mean, 643 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:42.079 who nobody really knew and a lot of people were skeptical for you know, 644 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.199 obvious reason. And now I mean, I'm sure I know it still 645 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.800 exists to like in some form or fashion, but I just to hear that 646 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.800 and to see the stories of people that were that were profiled in this documentary 647 00:40:54.079 --> 00:41:00.599 who invested in I guess it was called gen Con. Yeah, it was 648 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.960 called That's gonna drive me crazy because it was one of the more popular I 649 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.320 guess you know companies that were that that people were investing money in. But 650 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:14.079 man, I mean, did you ever consider did you ever try to learn 651 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.679 about it? John? No, I'm I'm always very skillsful of that kind 652 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.920 of stuff. Yeah, especially if you know me. Uh, I don't 653 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.440 early adopt into a lot of things. I just started using TikTok maybe less 654 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:27.159 than six months ago. And that's something that really kicked off maybe four or 655 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.079 five years ago. That's what makes you an old soul. And it's it's 656 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.400 called uh CenTra Tech just CenTra, I guess became the type. You know, 657 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.760 it was a crypto company that obviously for those who don't know, it 658 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:43.639 was just a couple of young South Florida hustlers that were able to get you 659 00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.920 know, enough of an investment from people to like fund the scam, if 660 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:51.440 that makes sense. And then it just got down to like, I mean, 661 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.920 keeping it going. And I'm I'm fascinated by those who are con artists. 662 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.639 And I don't know why. You know, there's a show called American 663 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:05.360 Greed and some of them don't really profile con artists. They just profile criminals 664 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.280 that have, you know, some level of financial crime. But there are 665 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:13.800 some people who are brilliant con artists to where like if they did if they 666 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:19.679 were on the straight and narrow, utilizing the savvy street smarts, that they 667 00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.960 have the ability to sell like they would be they would be rolling in the 668 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.840 dough like they would be super successful, and they don't put it towards that. 669 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:29.480 And this guy who was sort of at the center of it, his 670 00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:34.800 name is Ray Trapeenie. You know, he is someone who made it quite 671 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.920 clear in the documentary he wanted to be like he always was fascinated by, 672 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:43.239 you know, scamming people crime, which I think it's a weird thing to 673 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.360 get you know, interested in, but it's like you know, once they 674 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:51.800 get once they get away with it early on, and maybe they've been able 675 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:54.679 to kind of you know, take a little money off the top, mislead 676 00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.519 somebody slightly. That is actually you know that has led to them making money 677 00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:02.400 in a major way because somebody believed it. I think it's got to be 678 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.519 like an addiction thing where you just don't know the line and you don't realize 679 00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.119 how elaborate your nonsense is getting to where somebody like, by the time you 680 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.599 get caught, you've seemingly taken money from a whole lot of people, and 681 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.840 it's going to turn into where you end up going to prison. But because 682 00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.039 it's all like white collar crime, a lot of them don't do that much 683 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:28.199 time and they're probably in federal prison thinking of their next game when they get 684 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.079 out. Like it just fascinates me because some of these people are creative as 685 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.480 far as how they're able to pull things off, and you know, you 686 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:36.880 shouldn't do it, you shouldn't be dishonest with people. But it's also made 687 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.440 me very like, I don't know, I'm more aware. I feel like 688 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:44.199 I'm more aware of things to be like, yeah, that doesn't sound real, 689 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:45.880 Like that doesn't sound legit. All right, two more hours left, 690 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.360 so stick with us right here at this coffee and company. We are Feelbuth 691 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:54.159 Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety