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Well, I hate to open the
shows like this, but I don't know

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what else to push at a sinner. Yikes, Hey, it was sixteen

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to sixteen, and then the coaches
got their panties in a lot and then

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just well you kind of heard it. Not a very good night for the

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Kansas basketball Jayhawks to take lost number
one of the season and Maui and really

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put the icing on the diarrhea cake
that we've had of sports here in the

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last few days. Which you know, whenever you root for the teams we

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root for, there's more good days
than bad days. But really, a

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sucky, sucky weekend slash early part
of the week in sports to propel us

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into Turkey Day, which is the
worst of the major holidays. This is

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inside the paint. How about that
take? I'm Ryan Lander, I am

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Nick Timberlake's defense, which means I
shouldn't be here because I don't exist,

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And I am Parker Brown. Oh
gosh, it's already rough enough doing a

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podcast at eleven fifty five at night, but this is even worse. So

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you're gonna get an abbreviated show today
because we're just gonna talk Kaye Marquette.

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There's very little else to recap with
other games. You don't really care now

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that Kansas has been eliminated from the
championship side of the bracket and the Malimitational,

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and the Jayhawks reward for that is
they get to play another top ten

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team to try to avoid losing back
to back games. And that team has

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an even better defense than the one
that they just played. If you look

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at the numbers, the best way
to counter good defense is by making threes.

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Well, well, at least Kansas
can do that in bunches number four

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Marquette a lot number one. Kansas
fewer because we are doing this in the

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second half of the game and this
game is over, but we don't know

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if I'll score yet. Yeah,
it's about a ten to fifteen point l

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for Kansas in Honolulu, as this
is the third consecutive try that they will

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not win their Feast Week tournament.
They have not won since the last time

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they were in Maui, which was
in twenty nineteen. They almost lost that

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one when they got datoned and still
survived in overtime. Now they go down

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to Marquette and the fighting Shaka smarts. I guess let's start with that boy,

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Shaka smart, little feisty little bastard
today. Huh. Yeah, he's

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one of the few coaches that has
consistently beat Bill self, and by consistently,

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I mean like more than one or
two times, because he is one

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of the few men to do that. So Shaka got to Texas in sixteen,

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and I do not believe that he
beat Kansas until nineteen. Then he

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swept him in twenty one. So
that's a record of three and nine,

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which is pretty good for a Big
twelve coach against Bill self. But then

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he gets one here, and he
got one the VC one was infamous,

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obviously, So five and nine is
Shaka against Bill self, and he's beaten

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him three times in a row.
The Jayhawks haven't beaten Shaka Smart since the

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day before the Chiefs won the Super
Bowl. I actually think that it may

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have been the day after. I
think it was the day after because they

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it was in right at the beginning
of twenty twenty. They played a real

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sleepy game with Texas at Allen Field
House the day after winning the Super Bowl

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because nobody cared about basketball at that
moment. And yeah, how about that

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little shouting match at half corn or
what was that? That's definitely not the

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most important thing from this game.
But that's what I'm choosing a lead off

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with till I get final stats in
front of me. How about that,

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Nick, what did you make of
the shenanigans and tom foolery between the coaches?

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That was weird to me. I
didn't see how that happened. And

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it started with Hunter Dickinson flopping and
then progressed into I don't know, some

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some sort of altercation. Shaka Smart
has always been a whiney loser. Tonight

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you just happened to be a winner
against Bill self, which kind of stinks.

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But I mean, I don't Understan, I don't understand it. Just

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go to go to your sidelines.
In the timeout, I didn't hear what

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happened, but it seemed extracurricular for
no reason. I meant, Timberlake just

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got swatted into the first row.
Not quiet, but it was really embarrassing.

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That's the way the game ends,
folks, is Nick Timberlake getting swatted

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in the paint, which means you
get a final talk up, you get

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a final score. Now number four
Marquette seventy three, number one Kansas fifty

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nine wouldn't be a Kansas loss without
scoring less than sixty. And it also

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wouldn't be a Kansas loss without your
favorite and mine Landon. And you said

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that this was a very last year
Kansas loss. And here's what last year

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Kansas losses look like. Forty one
percent from the floor, thirty five percent

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from three, fifty six percent from
the line, out rebounded, and eighteen

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turnovers. Yeah, and you had
one and a half capable scores, which

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is what last year's team struggled the
most with. And then it was always

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Jalen Wilson. And then you'd get
a little something out of someone else,

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whether that's Grady dick or Dewan Harris
might put in a few or whoever it

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may be, and then after that
just nothing. And that's exactly what happened

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tonight. Kevin mccullor had a great
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He did have six turnovers, but
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much of anything. Hunter Dickinson gave
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solid, and after that no one
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not good. Bad free throw shooting, bad three point shooting, bad overall

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shooting, terrible with the ball in
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assists, which, to be fair, seventeen assists on twenty two baskets is

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still not that bad in and of
it elf. But yeah, a very

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lackluster offensive showing. And the reward
now for Kansas is they're gonna play another

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top ten team in Tennessee, a
team that it feels like we see him

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play every single year now, and
that game's at eight thirty in the morning,

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Hawaii time, which feels pretty gross. That seems like an appropriate punishment

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considering how this game went. Game's
gonna be what is that one thirty or

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twelve thirty or something like that here
in Kansas. That's that's an early afternoon

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basketball game. Sounds sounds like ass
if we're being totally honest, I'm gonna

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have that on well, helping my
mom make pies. Hey, you know

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what, hopefully your pies turn out
better than there is there a basketball is

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round like the don't let Nick Timberlake
touch the pies, I guess, is

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what I'm trying to say. Yeah, because that was bad, all right,

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So immediate reaction on this game,
because normally we have you know,

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polished notes, we have detailed things
we want to talk about. We don't

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have that day, so I'm gonna
hit you with this. Jayhawk players not

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named Kevin McCuller and Hunter Dickinson,
Well they scored. Let's see, what

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is those two combined for thirty seven? So everybody else had twenty one points?

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Yeah, twenty two, thank you. Twenty two points. Eight baskets.

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Eight baskets from players not named Dickinson
and McCuller. Nick, we talked

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about this. Kayu's got a really
really good top half of the roster,

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but when those guys aren't having all
world performances, well you get this.

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Yeah, you mentioned it earlier tonight, but it's very apparent that, you

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know, Johnny Furfey and Nicholas Timberlake
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The depth has been a concern and
is a huge It is a bigger

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problem without Arterio Morris, and yeah, it was just exacerbated. It's been

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exacerbated throughout the seat start of this
season. And luckily Kansas has been able

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to have played inferior opponents but also
get a lot from Hunter Dickinson. And

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that didn't really happen as much tonight. Dwan Harris was kind of a no

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show offensively four points and that that
is a result, and you have you

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have you look at the stats and
you Nick Timberlake has five points, Johnny

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Furfey has five, you know,
ten points between the two with as big

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of an impact you need him to
make. And against a team like Marquette

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who was very quick and plays at
a fast pace and was able to score

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in spurts tonight, Kansas was not
able to answer that, partly due to

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Nick Timberlake and Johnny Furfey and and
just the turnovers. I know we'll get

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into that, but but wow,
what a momentum killer offensively the amount of

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times they turned the ball over just
just unforced errors. So we've seen.

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My glass half full opinion on this
is we've seen in the past Kansas lose

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these around this time because our schedules
so brutal. They almost never make it

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through even November on skate at this
point, and this tournament doesn't matter.

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I mean, there's we're gonna see
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final four, so three of them
are gonna take El's Tennessee went down tomorrow.

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Somebody else in the top five is
gonna go down. So by no

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means it's the loss the problem.
Kansas has a very good top four,

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and the guys that are struggling to
get going are the role players. I

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think that's okay. I think the
role players will get it. We remember

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Kansas losing, blowing the big lead, losing to Dayton a team that wasn't

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very good. That team wound up
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Once the role players got it going, and that we had questions about

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the rotation. We had questions about
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to be a big piece for Kansas, not playing very well. We had

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questions about Remy Martin, who was
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important role player on that team.
Was he going to get the looks.

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I think the problems for this team, while still being pretty apparent, are

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less damning than in previous years because
they're role players. All you need are

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a couple of the those guys to
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don't think you're asking guys to be
something they're not in order for this team

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to get where it wants to go. But I do think a little bit

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more by the game that this season
and how far they go in the tournament

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is going to hinge on Almarco Jackson, Johnny Furfey, and Nick Timberlake finding

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somewhat of a groove. It's kind
of like everybody in sports right now is

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talking about the Chiefs wide receivers after
that debacle what we saw against the Eagles

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on Monday Night football. You don't
need them to be six. Davante Adams

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is out there, as fun as
that would be, You just need them

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to not be a liability, be
okay middle of the pack. If Timberlake,

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Furfey and Jackson can get there,
and there's no reason that a blue

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chip five star recruit, a guy
that's scored seventeen a night back to back

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years at twosand and a talented as
hell seventeen year old, there's no reason

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you can't get competence from that group
by mid January. You have no reason

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to think that this team won't be
fine. But are you guys losing faith?

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Through five games now, Timberlake has
looked awful, Furfey has shown spurts

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but has been inconsistent, and Jackson
has been pretty underwhelming. Are you guys

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losing the faith a little bit I
am in a couple of the players.

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I am definitively a Nick Timberlake.
He has been so so not good.

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Furfy's just a weird wild card.
And they're like, I don't know,

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just because he's so young, and
you know he's playing, you know,

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only still his only first few games
at this level, so I have no

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idea what he might become. Almarco
Jackson I think is pretty clearly not a

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scorer. Again if theoretically he shouldn't
have to be, but he also isn't.

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I don't think he's a guy you
can rely on in any way to

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pick you up if you're having an
off scoring night. I don't think he's

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a guy you can go to to
get a random ten or twelve on a

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night where you're struggling otherwise offensively.
And I want to see more of Jamar

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McDowell. He did go one of
five, which is not great either.

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I still like the way he plays
and kind of the way he fits in

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the offense. And Billsoeff doesn't play
him a ton. He did play him

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ten minutes against Marquette. But yeah, I'm I'm I'm concerned because I don't

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see a lot of incredible dynamic play
from these guys, Yet there's a lot

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of time to figure it out.
Marquette is a very good team, but

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I think there are some real concerns
about that group. Nick, what do

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you think? Yeah, I don't. I think it's a little earlier to

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push the panic button, particularly with
you know, Nicholas Timberlake. It's gonna

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take some time for him to get
adjusted from a you know, team like

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tousand to Kansas. We've seen Katie
players in the past to take a little

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bit longer to just feel confident and
start seeing shots fall. So I'm not

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there is time to panic, but
I am not on the Nicholas Timberlake is

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completely a lost cause. I don't
think really when anyone is arguing that,

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there's just a lot of you know, worry about him being him being a

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dud. But I think a bigger
concern might be Parker Brown, how bad

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he how bad he's I just don't
think he's good at all. Nicholas Timberlake

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has shown that he's good. Parker
Brown hasn't shown anything in his career.

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He wasn't good at Santa Clara.
What makes you think he's gonna be good

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at Kansas. So you know,
that's that's just really unfortunate how little depth

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this team does when you look at
a team like Marquette who has so much

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depth and was really able to keep
their speed and paster Kansas the entire game,

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even when Kansas put had to put
their subs in who have been so

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less so so so much worse than
we thought there would be. And yeah,

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this is just a result of you
know, you can't expect sixty points

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from Hunter Dickinson, you know,
Caja Adams and Kevin mccoller every single night,

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and it is it is, like
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the season, a lot of things
can get sorted out. Marquet's a very

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good team, but they've got to
find offense somewhere. The defense has been

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pretty bad early to start this year
as well, So just a lot to

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work on. And obviously with teams, you know, picking up a lot

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of transfers and freshmen, it does
take time to gel and put the pieces

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all together. And obviously confidence in
both soft he always gets sit done.

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But yeah, just an early season
game that kind of exposed the warts that

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we saw in the Illinois exhibition,
in the Kentucky game where they had to

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come back. I don't think I
think, I don't think it's huge worry

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yet, but definitely a disappointing loss
to it well. And so this game

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had a real defining moment, and
it was always going to be about effort

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and intensity, especially whenever you're so
far away from home and it's early in

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the season and you're playing a couple
games in a couple of days, where

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the energy is starting to run out. But Kevin mccullor hit the three in

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front of the bench to make it
thirty three to twenty eight after Kansas had

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fell behind it, and then they
pushed back, and that triggered the time

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out by Marquette. And that was
whenever Kevin McCuller was kind of popping off

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in front of the bench, Shaka
Smart looked like he told him to shut

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the f up, and then the
coaches got involved. Bill self and Shaka

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Smart had a little pissing contest,
and at that moment, right there,

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you knew, Okay, tensions are
high, energy's high. Let's see what

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happens. Marquette responded, Kansas didn't
score the rest of the half. That

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was the game closest to gut.
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nine, like or I guess it
was eight really quick in the second half.

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But then I mean Kansas was buried
pretty quickly in the second half.

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Marquette, like the cliche they wanted
it more is a little bit old,

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but Marquette looked like a team that
just flat out cared about this game more.

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The careless turnovers by Kansas, and
this is what Marquette does. We

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talked about how good Kansas looked like, how they looked like they'd been playing

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together for a while, and I
still think they do most times. But

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this was a team that is still
coming into its own against the team that

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returned everybody from a very good season
a year ago. And you saw how

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that continuity looked on Marquette early in
the season. This is a good test

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for Kansas, and they didn't come
close to passing it, because at that

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point, after the double technicals,
they were outscored by a lot and they

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were really never in the game,
all right, Just to get a couple

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guys out of the way here.
Kevin mccullor was great. Twenty four points,

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nine for fourteen from the floor,
made a couple threes, eight rebounds,

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three assists, did not get a
triple double, and did have six

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turnovers, but nothing you can complain
about there. Don't think there's much to

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analyze. Also, love his trash
talking. It looked like that he and

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Shaka Smart were laughing and smiling with
each other in the postgame presser. Shaka's

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pretty happy when he wins, and
all he blew by Bill self pretty fast.

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But I think the only real beef
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the two head coaches. And then
there's also Hunter Dickinson, who had thirteen

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points and eight rebounds, came out
of the gate hot had seven and four

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through the first five minutes, and
then Marquette just shut him down. There

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really wasn't a whole lot to analyze
with this. They used their speed and

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they had a six to eleven NBA
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Some bad passes led to some not
so great moments there as well,

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and overall Dickinson was a non factor
the last however, many minutes of the

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game. I don't think we have
much to say about either one of these

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guys. Right, they're both the
two best players on the team. They

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both were the two best players tonight, They're gonna be fine. We don't

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need to spend any time at midnight
our time analyzing their games, right,

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No, both or Dickinson gets shut
down. McClure was great, but yeah,

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nothing really that especially stands out.
Not the problem they lost, not

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the reason they lost necessarily. All
right, then let's move on to the

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two guards, because this is this
is turning into a legitimate problem here.

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Nicholas Timberlake had five points, which
was more than Almarco Jackson, which was

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more than Johnny Furfey. Are actually
the same number as Johnny Furfey. But

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he was terrible. You saw the
miss dunk, You saw the two miss

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free throws, You saw the wide
open miss layup that once that went out,

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that was really could have cut it
to eleven a little bit later.

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That was really the dagger. Also
had a shot block at the end.

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Just doesn't look like he is a
power five caliber player at this point.

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Johnny Furfey did some really good things
in the second half whenever Kansas was kind

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of treading water. Didn't do a
whole lot on offense, five points,

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four rebounds, made a late three
that took him from two to five.

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But he was the best of the
three. El Marco Jackson no points,

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three assists over four from the floor
started a couple of turnovers led to a

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couple more Nick, where do you
analyze these guys that none of them are

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where we need them to be at
this point for Kansas to be as good

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as they want. But overall,
I you just kinda take the floor and

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run with it with with these guys
because I don't know where to start.

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Yeah, I don't really know if
this is a straightforward answer. At this

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point, they just haven't been good. They can't haven't been able to score.

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You know that when Kansas has gone
to the subs and Hunter Dickinson and

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Kevin McClure get rest, these guys
are coming in and you just hope they

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can plug the gap a little bit, but they you know, the defense

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hasn't been there either, So I
I I, yeah, I don't know

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how much more you just analyze it. That's just these these guys are off

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to a shaky start to start this
season, all of them. And it's

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understandable for guys that are mechal Omarco
Jackson and obviously Jamari McDowell. Those are

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two guys that freshman still learning what
it's like to play college basketball. But

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I mean, Nick Timberlake's been doing
this for a while, different level of

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competition, I think, But it's
it's it's unexplainable how poor his game has

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been, not just with threes,
Like three point shooting has always been and

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always will be a streaky, uh
streaky thing for even the best shooters at

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times, especial when you're trying to
get comfortable and settled in in a new

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system. So that's that's not the
lone concern, many other concerns in Nick

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timber Lakes. He's not a great
defender. He doesn't really contribute offensively outside

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of you know, shooting the ball, making plays for others. Just is

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kind of out there on the floor, similar to the Parker Brown just out

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there on the floor and and not
just not not a good not a good

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look for Kansas for the stage performance. So landon to bring up the Chiefs

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wide receiver example one more time,
uh Mark Wes Valdez Scantling sucked, Sky

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Moore sucked, Cadarius Tony sucked,
Justin Watson sucked. They were all bad,

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but Valdez Scantling is the one everyone's
talking about, right. He had

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the biggest, most consequential drop of
the game, and he makes the most

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money. He's the veteran, like, there's reasons why people are talking about

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him more, even though the sheer
quantity of his game impacting plays may not

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necessarily be the highest. I feel
like we're kind of doing the same thing

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here with Timberlake. None of these
guys have been very good, but Timberlake

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feels like the one that people are
easily the harshest on. I don't know

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if it's because he's a fifth year
senior. I don't know if it's because

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he was thought to do the thing
that Kansas needs the most right now,

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which is shooting. I don't know
if that's I don't know exactly what the

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reason is, But do you think
that's kind of a fair comparison. He

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is the one that fans are the
most taken aback by the fact that he

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hasn't been very good. Yeah,
I think that's I think that is actually

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a pretty good calm because with mcdoll
and Furfey, there was both kind of

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an expectation going into this year that
even if those guys were good, that

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it was there was there was a
pretty reasonable amount of expectation that those guys

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would take at least time to actually
get going to actually kind of figure it

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out. And that's been the case
Jackson. People similar just because he's he's

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a you know, freshman, people
did have some expectation for him, and

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largely he's been very solid. This
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But yeah, Timberlake is a guy
that played and shot the ball really

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well at the college level, even
at the Power five level, at the

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D one college level, and we've
seen those guys transfer other places and be

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good, and he has been very
not good in pretty much all facets.

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I think that's also the other thing
is that not only does he I think

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have the least excuse to be bad, it's also been the most like comprehensive

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bad performances from Timberlake. He can't
defend, he's not shot well at all,

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and pretty much he's done nothing else
particularly well. He doesn't create,

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he's not in the right position a
lot of the time. Like he's just

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a guy. He's just truly almost
has done nothing well outside of that first

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game where he had he did have
like what thirteen points against n C Central

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or something like that. He was
solid in that game. Otherwise it's almost

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literally been a nothing burger from him. One for twelve, four more games,

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one for twelve, It might be
one for eleven. I don't know

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which one it is. I think
it's actually one for eleven from three as

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Nick timber Lake since game one and
the one make was a three and the

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in the late moments of a game, but they were just getting shredded in.

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They looked for his help against Kentucky, didn't get it. They looked

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for his help against against Marquette,
didn't get it when they need when it

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really was there. It's the guy
that shot combined six threes and then seven

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threes in each of the last two
seasons per game and made over forty percent

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of them, Like this was a
really good three point shooter. And I

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still think it will happen. I'm
not saying he's going to be the greatest

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player it's ever worn the Crimson in
Blue. I do think that he'll get

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there. A lot of guys have
started slow. Plenty of those guys have

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wound up being just fine, and
this was just a brutal tournament. But

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they obviously need him to get better. They are going to need him if

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they want to play well against Tennessee. I said at the beginning of the

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game on Twitter that this doesn't feel
like a game Kansas wins if they get

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no shooting from Furfeet and from Timberlake, and neither of those two made a

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three until they were down by fifteen
in the second half. So that explains

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your l McDowell. It was perplexing
how he has been the most consistent in

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the least amount of minutes of any
of the guys that's played the two this

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year, and he can't get on
the floor in the first sixteen minutes of

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the second half as he has three
points. He made a three in the

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first half, had a couple of
assists. He was by no means spectacular,

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but he at least seems to stop
the bleeding. I don't remember watching

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McDowell actively make things worse. I
watched el mar Rko Jackson lose a ball

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out of bounce, then let one
bounce off his hands and go out of

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bounds. I watched Timberlake miss every
type of shot you can make. I

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don't know. We're not concerned about
Jackson, not really. He's just a

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freshman working things out. Tough matchup
for him, Yeah, I think I

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don't think I'm too worried about that. Nick, Are you? Are you

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overly worried about now Marco Jackson here? No. I think I expected a

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little bit more from him to start
the season. But I, like I

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said, freshman are gonna freshman.
It's gonna take a little bit for him

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to get more comfortable. I think
shooting for him is going to be an

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issue as well, but I have
seen some promising things at least if anyone's

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going to step up and play the
two guard, well, I feel more

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comfortable with him over Nick Timberlake.
Right now, it felt like Marquette was

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just drowning Kansas in threes. And
I look at the score and I see

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twenty four percent, like they shot
sixty percent on two. A team with

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Hunter Dickinson should never get absolutely buried
with points in the paint. But that's

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exactly what happened to night. Dickinson's
seven to two, and he was nowhere

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near the best big in this game. That that distinction would go to OsO

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Igudoro, who looks like Trace Jackson
Davis, kind of plays like Trace Jackson

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Davis and just shreded Kansas ANBA player
for sure, yep, twenty nine for

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him. The three point shooting.
They came out of the gates real hot

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and then went cold. But oh
boy, did they get a couple of

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them when they really had to have
them, holding off of Kansas run in

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the very last moments of the of
the game actually being close. Enter Ben

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Gold six eleven from me in a
minute, six eleven from New Zealand and

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shooting twenty nine percent on threes in
his career, and he steps up to

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the plate and knocks two out of
two out of the park. And they

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were swishes too. They were nothing
but net NBA range threes. And that

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was the final metaphorical knockout for Kansas. Only other guy we haven't talked about,

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aside from the the human embodiment of
a flag, which is Parker Brown.

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You know whenever he goes in the
game, that Bill self has just

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given up. Uh. But Dewan
Harris played really poorly. Four points,

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three assists, two turnovers, just
two for eight from the floor. I'm

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not gonna say Dewan Harris got exposed. I think to one Harris's lack of

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strength got exposed in this game.
Marquette's got some pretty legit dudes in their

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in their back court, and he
just looked a lot smaller and a lot

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weaker than these guys. We're not
too concerned. I'm sure he's allowed to

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have a bad game, But overall, this was this was apparent that Marquette

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hits you with a lot of athleticism
and a lot of speed with their guards.

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We talked about this would have been
a nice game for Artario Morris's playing

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style if he was here, and
instead you get an unathletic Timberlake and inexperienced

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Furfy and Jackson out there. Then
the point guard golds cold and Dodnter Dickinson

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gets taken away, and I'm not
sure what other what other options they even

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had at that point. Yeah,
Harris, I agree he had an off

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night in general, But yeah,
I think his lack of strength and lack

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of athleticism definitely is a bad matchup
against this Marquete team who is very strong

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and very athletic in their backcourt.
So yeah, a bad matchup. But

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yeah, I don't think that really
means much of anything. I mean,

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what else really is there to talk
about here? kJ Adams had three point

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curiousists. He can't rebound the ball. That's also kind of a problem.

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Yeah, that's another player where the
lack of shooting. And I know no

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one's ever expected kJ Adams to shoot
the ball, but like when you just

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have another guy out there who isn't
gonna make shots, that's a tough way

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to play against this kind of team
because that's like you'll see it against West

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Virginia and KU. Teams that have
beaten West Virginia and played well against them

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largely have been able to make shots. Because that's a way that you can

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break the press is you get down
the floor quickly. You break that press

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quickly, You get the ball to
the wing or to the corner, and

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you make shots or you just go
for dunks. And to add on to

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that example, West Virginia never has
a four or a five that can make

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threes. How many times have we
seen that twenty eighteen Kansas team that started

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a guy like Sphema kay, look
as they're four next to dok Essentially,

405
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:25.319
I know that spe was a three, but by all measures, you have

406
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:30.200
Vic and Sphee playing the three in
the four who could make threes against the

407
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:37.759
West Virginia front courts of Derrek Culver, Sagobab Khanate Oscar Shebwe all very good

408
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.000
rebounders and shot blockers. But what
happened. Kansas sped them up and they

409
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.799
stretched the floor. Those guys couldn't
keep up. They were matching twos with

410
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.720
threes, and we've seen that happen. I think that's a good comp But

411
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.599
other than that, not a lot
more to analyze here with the KU box

412
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:59.599
score. I mean, Nick,
do you think that this loss is a

413
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.640
harbon things to come for the Jayhawks? Do you think it's a one off?

414
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:06.200
Do you think it's somewhere in the
middle. I think it's somewhere in

415
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:08.000
the middle. I think there is
room to be concerned about this team.

416
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:11.160
But you know, depth is we
knew it was going to be an issue.

417
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.319
It was just exposed but in the
forefront, and I was more what

418
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:19.759
I've come away from this game a
little bit more worried about than I did

419
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:26.880
coming into this game, was that
KU's with offense has had its worths at

420
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.799
times. But how they were able
to be so disrupted by Marquette's defense tonight

421
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:36.400
and really just not be able to
match their athleticism was a little bit of

422
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:37.880
a shock to me. I know
that that Marquette liked to run it a

423
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.119
little bit more than Ku. This
isn't the fastest Kansas team that's ever hit

424
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:48.079
the floor, but they were really
just broke, broken apart by Marquette's defense.

425
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.119
And then in transition, it seemed
like, you know, Ku was

426
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.319
very rushed towards the end of the
game trying to get sets going, and

427
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.200
Marquette's defense really challenged a lot of
that deflected a lot of I haven't seen

428
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:06.680
a defense that active against Kayu in
a while. And then Kau similarly on

429
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.759
the offensive end, just like I
said, could not find ways to get

430
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:14.960
the ball moving. It was it
was sticking the entire game. So that

431
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:17.680
is a little bit of a concern. You know, shots are eventually gonna

432
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.119
fall, but how can you get
those looks? They didn't get very many

433
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.839
good looks in this game. That's
why they only scored. Uh, That's

434
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.839
why they scored less than sixty points. So uh, I think I think

435
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.680
that's my biggest takeaway is that it's
very concerning. The offense really isn't opening

436
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.119
yep yet, But I trust Bill
self that the sets that he's running and

437
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.359
the guys that are in this cast. You know, Nicholas Timberlake, shooters

438
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.279
are shooters. He's gonna get to
where he needs to be. I think

439
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.400
you gotta worry about the rest of
it though, Parker Brown big liability when

440
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.559
Hunter Dickens not in the not in
the game. And again, it's all

441
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.279
gonna come down to the success of
this team this season is gonna come down

442
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.799
to can they get production outside of
Hunter Dickinson At Kevin mccoller tonight, they

443
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.000
like Lann Ryan said, they did
not pass that test. There's gonna be

444
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.839
times the season they aren't going to
pass that test. The depth just isn't

445
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.279
there. But can they weather the
storm and find guys who do step up

446
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:10.039
in the meantime that's to be determined. They played a really good team tonight,

447
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:11.720
though you can't take away too much
more than that. It's a November

448
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.680
basketball game. I know KU fans
on Twitter are probably gonna say, oh

449
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.400
man, they lost play fourteen.
Don't overthink it, seriously, don't overthink

450
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.640
the games this early. We saw
something similar, you know, and the

451
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.319
November Tournament against Gonzaga a few years
ago they got exposed. So this is

452
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:36.279
what you expect, you know,
Marquette particularly. I think the really benefited

453
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.599
Marquette in this game is that they
did run fast and they were able to

454
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:44.799
disrupt Kansas, and especially in a
very young college basketball season, just having

455
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.519
that strength over a team is a
really controllable factor in a game. So

456
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.839
that's my takeaways. I think it's
easy to I think it's easy to look

457
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.000
at the box score and say,
yeah, kay, you got their caught

458
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.319
with their pants down. I don't. I'm not looking too much into this

459
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:05.000
game, though. What's it k
You fans can make fun of Shaka and

460
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:09.480
he is a dork and he's easy
to dislike, but his style has been

461
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:14.240
pretty effective against Kansas. Even in
games where Kansas has beaten his teams,

462
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.079
they've still succome to a lot of
turnovers. We thought that this game when

463
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:21.759
Landa and I said it on last
night's podcast, We thought that this game

464
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.440
was gonna come down to a clash
of styles. And in the first few

465
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.839
minutes, Kansas had some success.
Whenever it wasn't an up and down the

466
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.359
floor track meet, they established Hunter
Dickinson and they were right there. It

467
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.279
was tight. Then after that,
whenever Marquette was able to eliminate Dickinson from

468
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.680
being a touch the ball on every
possession sort of guy. With their sped

469
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:44.960
up offense and their defense that started
forcing turnovers before Kansas could get the ball

470
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:49.200
down to the big guy. Well, that's whenever Marquette started dictating control of

471
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.039
the pace, and Kansas is just
not going to win those type of games

472
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.599
with their current makeup. I think
this was about as bad of a matchup

473
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.720
as you could possibly have for Kansas. A really experienced team that plays lightning

474
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:05.640
fast and forces a lot of turnovers, and Kansas is going to use their

475
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.680
style against a lot of teams to
a point where it's going to frustrate them

476
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.920
with wear them down, use Dickinson. That's what they did to Kentucky down

477
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.319
the stretch. They really implemented their
style in that game and they ultimately won.

478
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:20.720
No, I don't think this opens
up a lot of eyes. I

479
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.480
think they got beat by a team
that is one went away from being the

480
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.480
number one team in the country for
good reason. But I do think that

481
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.160
you're looking at a matchup that's going
to be the most challenging type of matchup

482
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.599
for Kansas this year. A team
that is athletic, a team that is

483
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:39.319
fast and a team that forces turnovers
because Dickinson, whenever he has the ball

484
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:42.960
in his hand, is going to
be pretty reliable. If you can cut

485
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.559
the head off the dragon and block
a lot and prevent a lot of those

486
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:52.680
outlet passes, well, then you're
banking on the arsenal of shooters in quotes

487
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.559
to beat you. That's not gonna
happen at this stage in the season.

488
00:33:55.559 --> 00:34:00.440
I guess Landa, that's probably a
fair way to word it. Yeah,

489
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:05.839
I think I think that is pretty
fair. Ideally for Kansas, you could

490
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:09.039
survive a night where Dickinson gives you
a still for most big men, a

491
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:15.400
perfectly solid outing with thirteen and eight
for Hunter Dickinson, that is certainly under

492
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.480
what we've already come to expect of
him. But yeah, the depth on

493
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.920
this team is, you know,
is the biggest concern. I think there

494
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.880
are real concerns there. I don't
think this affects like the idea that Kansas

495
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.639
is still very very good team and
has a national title in them potentially,

496
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.440
I think they definitely do. But
I do think this is the kind of

497
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.239
game you look at and like,
yep, if Kansas is going to lose

498
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.199
in the tournament. That's how right
there, That's how they're gonna lose,

499
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:42.599
And I think that makes a lot
of sense. That doesn't mean they're going

500
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:44.840
to I think they have all the
time in the world to figure some of

501
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.679
this out. Maybe they very well
will, but not a great look.

502
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.079
Definitely not a great look. Very
odd to see them look borderline kind of

503
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:57.719
surprised by the pace and speed and
pressure of Marquette, even when that's shocks

504
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.719
whole deal. I don't really know
what was going on there. Very odd

505
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.679
to see that. But it's a
learning thing. You know. You take

506
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.800
a loss like this in Maui,
a tournament you would have liked to win,

507
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.760
but ultimately does not mean anything in
the course of your total season.

508
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.239
So I think a good learning experience. I don't think they're going to be

509
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.960
caught off guard like that again.
Hopefully those get more scoring next time.

510
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.320
Here's a funny stat that I just
decided to look up, and this is

511
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:28.039
wild. So Devin Booker has been
playing in the NBA for eight years.

512
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:32.559
He has thirteen thousand points. He's
made over forty five hundred shots. He

513
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:38.760
is less than two years older than
Nicholas Timberlake. They are twenty months apart,

514
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:45.159
and Devin Booker is in his eighth
season as an NBA player. Wow,

515
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.159
how long if they played one on
one and Devin Booker got to one

516
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:59.559
hundred, how many would Timberlake get
to five? Zero? Hey he had

517
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:07.199
five to so you know, is
one Devin Booker roughly equal to Marquette in

518
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:09.960
one on one? Yeah? I
think so. Yeah. Gross final numbers

519
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.280
for Kansas. They are quite ugly. As I clicked off of them.

520
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:16.840
I'm sure you're sad. Forty one
percent from the floor, thirty five percent

521
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:21.960
from three to fifty six percent from
the floor, minus three on the glass

522
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.599
and minus six and turnovers. And
they also had well, they had a

523
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.199
dust up and responded by scoring no
points the rest of the half. So

524
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:35.079
chuck one up. On the other
side of the they always get fired up

525
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:44.360
about Bill. Okay, great other
games, Well there really isn't very much.

526
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.960
Because Landon and I were just here
last night, we could talk a

527
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:52.199
little bit about Maui as the other
semi final was very close, much closer

528
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.920
than the one that our favorite team
was in. Number two per Due puts

529
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.199
the other yet another comeback. They
take down number seven Tennessee seventy one to

530
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:05.360
sixty seven in a game that took
way too damn long. Fifty one fouls

531
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:09.039
were called in this game, and
a total of an impossible, incredible seventy

532
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:16.280
eight free throws were shot in a
game that was forty minutes. Oh don't

533
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:21.360
you think that the officials, in
their blindness couldn't find their way to Hawaii?

534
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.480
They sure did. Wow. What
an incompetent group of fools. I

535
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:29.760
can't believe that this is what college
basketball has become. Purdue shot forty eight

536
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:34.039
free throws. Well, at least
I won't have to watch Foster Lawyer score

537
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.440
forty eight points against Kansas. Yeah, he scored twenty seven in this one.

538
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.119
He was almost there. Purdue was
down at halftime. Zacheaty was good,

539
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.320
but Foster Lawyer was the was the
key. He scored twenty seven points

540
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:50.360
for the boiler Makers. The Jayhawks
will play a Tennessee team that shot just

541
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.880
thirty three percent from the floor.
Hey, this is gonna be the best

542
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:58.519
fifty five to fifty third place game
our eyeballs I've ever seen. They seem

543
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.400
like they played Tennessee every single time. But we'll talk more about that in

544
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.920
a little bit. Just they Yeah, and Kansas screwed it up. We

545
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.679
were all set to watch Dickenson and
Edie go head to head and all they

546
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.800
had to do was not do that, and they did. Yeah. I

547
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:15.079
do think that fifty five fifty game
is going to be like having the best

548
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:20.079
COVID case I've ever had. And
hey, guys, you know what,

549
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.280
so all these fun games are going
on. We had multiple top ten showdowns

550
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:28.119
today. The Blue Devils of Duke
they did not play in a Thanksgiving week

551
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.360
tournament that you may have heard of, but it's a pretty big one.

552
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.119
It's got a lot of marque in
it. It's called the Blue Devil Challenge

553
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.960
and it takes place at Cameron in
North Stadium. They played LaSalle today.

554
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:42.679
Yeah, they played LaSalle and actually
handed them their first loss. And then

555
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:46.639
they will continue the Blue Devil Challenge
on Black Friday when they play a one

556
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:53.000
in four Southern Indiana team also at
Cameron Indoor. Man really just a gauntlet,

557
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:58.920
that's what they do. Other MALLI
scorers number eleven. Gonzaga beat Syracuse

558
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.920
by nineteen. They clearly were the
best team and the losers half of the

559
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:07.960
bracket. They are going to play
for fifth place. Tomorrow against UCLA,

560
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.039
who predictably ran Shamanad out of the
gym. I think it was twenty six

561
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.360
to four at one point, and
they wound up winning by about what Kansas

562
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:20.960
beat him by by twenty eight.
Shamanad is going to play Syracuse and probably

563
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.599
will lose there for last place.
The Mali Tournament, I feel like has

564
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.920
gone. If Kansas had beat Marquette, I think every single piece of it

565
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.440
would have pretty much gone exactly how
you thought it was gonna go. Gonzaga

566
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:36.400
loses to Purdue but rolls through their
losers bracket, and Tennessee loses, and

567
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.960
Kansas and Perdue being the final two, like Kansas's, everything was exactly what

568
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.159
we thought all the way up in
so Kansas. Yeah, I think the

569
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:50.199
Kansas Marqueque result is the only surprising
result at this point. There's only one

570
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.679
top twenty five team to lose that
did not play in the Malli Tournament.

571
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:58.760
Today and in his number eighteen,
Colorado, The Fighting Dion's went down at

572
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:04.039
home to Florida States seventy seven to
seventy one. That was in what's called

573
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:08.239
the Sunshine Slam. Is the Sunshine
Slam event closer to being the best named

574
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:14.519
or the worst named event ever worst. Yeah, I think it is closer

575
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.960
to worst. So you guys think
it's ass all right, I got it.

576
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:22.800
Ranked teams to lose since the last
show. Oh no, oh,

577
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.599
I don't want to start with this
one, but I think we have to

578
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:34.519
because the highest ranked team to lose
since the last show, Number one Kansas

579
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:43.679
got whitewashed by Marquette. Number seven
Tennessee, they lose by four to Purdue.

580
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.400
In number eighteen Colorado, they lose
to Florida State. Look at us,

581
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.039
no notes and everything still got it
in order, folks. They say

582
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:58.079
that you can't do things this well
improvised. Well, the three of us

583
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.440
at Inside the Pain have never seen
a challenge that we didn't like taking on.

584
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:07.039
We are unstoppable. We are Tyler
Kullak, Uh Who's who's the white

585
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:13.239
dude that made the threes? Ben
Gold, Ben something, Ben Gold and

586
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.239
Uh and the big ridiculous center.
That's the three of us right now.

587
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:23.440
We are just just call us Uh, Ryan Kullak, Nicholas Gold, Landondaro

588
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:30.440
brother. All right, Well,
Landon can also make threes against the jay

589
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:35.039
Birds. That's too bad. Anything
good in the Big Twelve happened. It's

590
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.440
twelve thirty five in the morning,
and I'm over here being like, did

591
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:45.280
West Virginia lose today? Let's see
uh TCU beat TCU beat Alcorn State by

592
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:50.880
a lot? Oh hey, ernest
Ude almost quadrupled his season averaging points by

593
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:57.400
scoring four. Well, that would
have been more than Parker Brown scored.

594
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.559
Oh my damn god. I am
just realizing we have to watch another Santiago

595
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:07.599
Vescovie Kansas game. You have to
be freaking kidding me. How is this

596
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:13.800
possible? He's going to do bad
things. I'm going to do bad things

597
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.119
to myself by watching that happen.
I mean, I can just see it

598
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.360
coming from here. What is okay? Kansas Tennessee twenty twenty two. They

599
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.400
played in the Atlantis Final last year. Kansas scored a nice crisp fifty points

600
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:30.559
that day. By the way,
Santonio Vescovie went for a Tennessee high twenty

601
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:37.280
points, including five threes. Get
ready, Kansas, It's it's coming again.

602
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:43.800
Ask Rock Chalk Blog. Just kidding. We don't have any questions,

603
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:49.280
so I'll just ask you guys a
nonsense one. How many times would the

604
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:55.920
five of us lose if we played
an average girls high school team ten times?

605
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.519
How many what would we average?
You cut out for like one word,

606
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:07.119
how many losses we play a ten
average high school girl teams? One?

607
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:14.039
No, the answer is all of
them. We lose them all,

608
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:19.079
at least eight. How are you
think we're beating two fifty percentile women's high

609
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:24.519
school teams? Yes, probably not, but there's a chance. No,

610
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:29.159
I tell you what would happen.
Land and Timberlake and Nicholas Furfey would go

611
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.480
out there and we would make absolutely
nothing the whole night. We have a

612
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:37.519
better chance of getting held under ten
points than we do of beating an average

613
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:44.760
high school girls team. I think
we'd score ten, I hope. Is

614
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.480
that what you say about Timberlake?
Now? I mean I think he might

615
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:52.760
score ten at some point. I
do not think Nick Timberlake will score ten

616
00:43:52.239 --> 00:44:00.519
all season, really, the rest
of the season. Really, really,

617
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:07.920
I bet in one of the next
three games complete lost cause hot dog water.

618
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:13.440
Oh that's sad. I hope not. I hope I'm really wrong.

619
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.079
That'd be good, But I think
I think he's just that bad. Maybe

620
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:22.000
you think Nick Timberlake will not score
ten points in any game the rest of

621
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.320
the season, That is crazy.
Yeah, I think there's a good chance

622
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:29.280
he doesn't. All right, you
want to hear my you want to hear

623
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:34.760
my call here, Nick Timberlake will
score double digit points seven times the rest

624
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.239
of the year, and that is
more likely than doing it zero times.

625
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:42.599
He already had one. He won
every four games, that's about seven a

626
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.639
year. Yeah, but he's been
worse since the first game. Yeah,

627
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:50.599
yeah, I mean if he didn't
do it against Shamana, that's that seems

628
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.519
overreactionary as hell. Okay, Landon
what has a higher chance of happening the

629
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:58.280
rest of the season. Kevin mccullor
gets another triple double. Or Nick Timberlake

630
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.960
scores fifteen points in a game.
Nick Timberlake scores fifteen is more likely,

631
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:08.000
but it's more likely Nick Timberlake scoring
over ten points in five games. Or

632
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:12.480
Landing went on a date. I
knew that was coming. I could see

633
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:17.280
that the first one. I can
see that coming up. Well, I'm

634
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:22.000
really really sorry. Oh darn it. How is there no bye bye bye

635
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:27.840
drop on this freaking soundboard? That
is all I want? There's one called

636
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.039
Donald Trump as potus question mark.
When I looked up bye Bye Bye,

637
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:36.320
I am officially running. That's a
drop? Are you kidding me? But

638
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.599
I can't get the bye bye bye
thing. Wow, that's that's booty cheeks.

639
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:44.800
All right, I am officially running, is what Nick tim Blake is

640
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:52.119
gonna say after practice next week.
That's okay, that's pretty funny. I

641
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.000
mean it's midnight and we're just screwing
around here. So what you're saying is,

642
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.199
whenever Nick Timberlake sees a somewhat athletic
player that he has to guard,

643
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:07.760
he says, I am official,
and then they lose. That's also very

644
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:14.920
good. How is there no in
sync drops? Just time to google and

645
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:24.960
sync songs? Gosh, that's so
so great. That ears off is one

646
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:30.039
something that Nick Timberlake will never hear
the netd oh, yeah, that's a

647
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:34.400
good one. Is there a basketball
swish sound effect? Let's see here.

648
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:39.639
Okay, that's definitely not what that
is. No, that's okay. The

649
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:49.840
soundboard absolutely, this absolutely sucks.
It makes me ill, is how I

650
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:54.360
feel of how watching Nick Timberlake play. That's when no strings attached? That

651
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.280
is that is that in sync?
I have no idea. My early two

652
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.960
thousands of knowledge is zero. Would
you rather watch Nick Timberlake play or Marcus

653
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:09.719
Garrett. Marcus, Oh my gosh, Oh what a great landing question.

654
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:16.079
Landing your lying that's not true.
I don't know. I would want Marcus

655
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:22.559
Garrett to lead my team, but
at least he could score. And what

656
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.559
if you were watching Marcus five Marcus
Garrett to play five Nicholas timber Lakes.

657
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:32.280
I wouldn't do that. I would
do anything else, anything else. Oh

658
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.599
no, that the Nick Timberlake team
is never scoring a single point against five

659
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.960
Marcus Garrett's Like, I know,
Marcus Garrett wasn't our favorite player, but

660
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.280
Marcus Garrett, you could tie a
hand behind his back and he would hold

661
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:49.199
Nick Timberlake without points. Oh yeah, there's no way way that would Who

662
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:54.280
would that would be an easy Who
would win in a one one Dewan Harris

663
00:47:54.599 --> 00:48:00.000
or Marcus Garrett? Oh, that's
probably Garrett. Just because of size,

664
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:05.719
I think I think Garrett his defensive
ability, Harrison have a very difficult time

665
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:08.079
scoring. Yeah, Garrett. Harris
feels like the sort of player that would

666
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.360
really really be locked in handcuffs with
Garrett defending him. Garrett's bigger, Garrett's

667
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.360
taller, and we saw Garrett put
the clamps on people twice the one Harris's

668
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.440
size, but I would take I
would rather have Harris on my team.

669
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:28.119
Yes, and if you have any
ascarcbs, use the x hashtag and navigate

670
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.880
through all the bots that I have
to deal with on a regular basis.

671
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:36.440
I see if I can find a
robot response. So I tweeted the Jayhawks

672
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.039
Blues seventy three to fifty nine whatever, and I have oh nope. The

673
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.679
normally the show more responses, the
ones that it hides, the people that

674
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:50.159
are that are not saying very nice
things. Normally those are the bots.

675
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.119
But today it was just somebody talking
about how shock is smart is an fit

676
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:59.639
effing piece of Okay, we do
have one question from at Kam Lippolt Golf

677
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.440
RCB. Could a team of Tyan
Grant Foster's mount to better comeback than what

678
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:09.320
the Jayhawks just ry rallied they would
have to they would have been down by

679
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:15.280
a lot more. Yes, yep. What school is Tian Grant Foster playing?

680
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:20.639
Porto? Is he still like Grand
Canyon? That's right, Grand Canyon

681
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:24.480
University. I think Foster could make
a shoot a basketball in the Grand Canyon.

682
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.199
I would hope he could one Grand
Canyon. Yes, yeah, not

683
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.920
that one year. Tyan Grant Foster
is averaging twenty one points per game through

684
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.519
four games. He just had a
twenty eight point game the other night against

685
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:45.400
Gonzaga's vaunted opponent of death, San
Francisco. So I definitely think that Tyan

686
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:47.519
Grant Foster would be the sixth man
on this team, as sad as that

687
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:53.639
is to say, wow, that's
probably true, Like I would how fast

688
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:58.920
would you trade Nick Timberlake? I
mean you would be telling him, oh,

689
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.920
really, that's what you would say
to Nick Timberlake if you could trade

690
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:08.960
him for tie On Grant Foster right
now? Uh considered. Well, but

691
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:13.159
I don't know if I would though, because I watched Tylon Grant Foster suck

692
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:17.559
at Kansas before, and I've also
I've known Nick Timberlake has been good at

693
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:22.480
a group or at my mid major
school, So it's basically the same,

694
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.679
probably as bad as Tyan Grant as
Nick Timberlake has been this year. He

695
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:31.079
made more threes in Game one as
a Jayhawk as many threes in his first

696
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:37.039
game that Tyon Grant Foster made all
season. Yeah, So yeah, okay

697
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:42.480
for real. Ascarcb's Twitter hashtag x
hashtag tell Elon musk to get rid of

698
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:45.719
the bots. All right, we
do get a preview game, but it's

699
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:51.480
not the one we won, and
unfortunately because it is instead number seven Tennessee

700
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.599
against number one Kansas and a game
that will take place at one thirty pm.

701
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:02.440
It is for third place bronze battles
for everybody super excited to watch this

702
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.079
showdown between the Tennessee volunteers who are
four and one. They took their first

703
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.599
l today just like Kansas did.
They lost to Purdue, Kansas losing to

704
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.159
Marquette. Your thoughts on this game. We see this game every year and

705
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:19.679
it's always gross. Yeah, it's
probably gonna be gross again. Tennessee led

706
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:24.599
by Santiago Vescovi who against Purdue scored
eight points on zero made shots awesome for

707
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.519
ten from the free throw line that
I don't know if I've seen that.

708
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:31.519
Actually, that's pretty weird. Tennessee's
best player is a white guy that's by

709
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.760
the name of Dalton Neckt. He
is from Colorado and he I believe is

710
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.239
a transfer from one of those schools. Yeah, he transferred from Northern Colorado.

711
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.639
See, he was a guy that
averaged a good chunk of points at

712
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:46.239
a smaller school and then transferred to
a Power five team and is doing well

713
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:51.800
unlike the one the Jayhawks got.
Because this guy's averaging thirty nine percent on

714
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:57.440
his three pointers and nineteen points per
game. He is their wing six six,

715
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.199
so that is niche good luck with
that. They got a couple white

716
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.519
guys of the games. Boy,
some of the names. I know Kansas

717
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:06.840
has played Tennessee a lot, but
I swear Josiah Jordan James has been there

718
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:12.400
for one hundred years. Just like, Yeah, we've seen these guys over

719
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.239
and over and over again. And
the names on this Tennessee team are pretty

720
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:22.000
lee. You got Necked mayshack Vescovie, Josiah Jordan James, JP Estrella is

721
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:27.039
a really good name, and Zachai
Zeigler and Tennessee much like Marquette, they

722
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.079
force a lot of turnovers. We
saw them turn Gonzaga over a lot.

723
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:36.039
We saw Purdue struggle to take the
ball or to control the ball for most

724
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:42.039
of their game today against them,
like Tennessee forces takeaways. Not great considering

725
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:45.039
me just how the Jayhawks have eighteen. The Balls are a much better defensive

726
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:51.360
team as always than they are offensive
team. They are top fifteen nationally and

727
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.280
points allowed per game this year,
small sample size, but still they especially

728
00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:00.039
have very good interior defense. Kansas
obviously wants to play through the post,

729
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:05.239
so that's going to be, you
know, something that that's worth monitoring.

730
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:09.320
Don't expect a high scoring, beautiful
basketball game. It's probably not happening,

731
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:15.559
even though the uniforms that Tennessee's been
wearing are pretty good. Yeah, Nick,

732
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:19.400
what are your what's your what's your
thought here on this game? Do

733
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.000
you think that jayhawkson get out of
here with a win? Anything you're looking

734
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.639
for? Yeah? I think Kansas
is probably gonna win this game. I

735
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:30.280
think that the matchup favors him a
little bit more than a game against Marquette,

736
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:36.039
mainly because Tennessee is not as good
offensively. I think that bodes well

737
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:37.800
for Kansas. The game is going
to be at a slower pace. I

738
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:44.000
think KU going through Hunter Dickinson is
going to be a little bit I have

739
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:45.320
a little bit more of an opportunity
instead of, you know, running back

740
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:51.400
and forth in transition. I don't
think that the athleticism, I think it's

741
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:53.079
there for Tennessee, but to the
extent that it was in the Marquete game.

742
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:57.239
I don't think there'll be as pestered
as much trying to get the ball

743
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.880
across mid court. I think it'll
be a little bit easier, especially with

744
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:05.239
the size differences. But I think
this matchup does bid well for Kansas.

745
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:08.440
I'm gonna be interested to see those
matchups, particularly you know, Sky Ziegler

746
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:13.679
against Dwan Harris. Think that should
be a good, good, good matchup

747
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.559
to see if Dwan Harris can do
a good job of controlling him. But

748
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:21.719
overall, I think KU is gonna
win this game due to that presence of

749
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:23.440
Hunter Dickinson. I don't think they
dropped two in a row here in this

750
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:29.440
circumstance. Yeah, I think k
you pulls one out and gets third place

751
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:35.000
in the tournament. So Kansas,
they're four and three against Tennessee all time,

752
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.679
but they've lost their last two.
They got blown out by Tennessee and

753
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:40.840
each of the last two times that
they've played them, one of them in

754
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:45.239
Knoxville during the COVID year during Kansas
is like seven out of eleven streak where

755
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:50.519
they lost those games. And then
they got trash pretty good in a tournament

756
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.159
last year in Atlantis that ruined their
six and oh start. That was their

757
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:58.480
only loss in their first I think
seventeen games. It was their only loss

758
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.000
till they lost that overtime game to
ki A State in mid January last year.

759
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:06.239
So Rick Barnes has had Bill Self's
number a little bit, But overall

760
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:08.119
I agree with Nick. I don't
think Kansas is losing two in a row.

761
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:12.360
I think Marquette was a brutal matchup. I think Tennessee's more their style,

762
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:15.719
and I think Kansas is the best
version of this style that exists in

763
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:19.679
college basketball. I'm betting under one
Harrison Hunter Dickinson to bounce back a little

764
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.400
bit. I think Kansas will protect
the ball better, and I think that

765
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.440
this is a little bit more in
their element. Whenever the game's slower,

766
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:28.199
it usually comes down to who's got
the best big guy on the floor.

767
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.360
The answer for that is Kansas protect
the basketball, and I think they're just

768
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:36.440
fine Jayhawks a little bit wider margin
than some people think. They win seventy

769
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:42.119
six to sixty three. I'm halfway
tempted to pick Tennessee, but Hunter Dickinson

770
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.719
pulls me back in the other direction. So I'll say Kansas does not lose

771
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:49.400
two in a row, even though
I do think Tennessee's gonna give him a

772
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:52.400
game, but I think Dickinson has
a much better match up here. So

773
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:59.719
I'll take Kansas to win sixty four
to fifty eight. All right, so

774
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:01.920
we're all going with Kansas, which
went very well last time for us.

775
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:07.360
We have we have nine other games
to pick. Actually, this is a

776
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:09.519
fun The good part about being in
the Mauley Tournament as you get your games

777
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:14.400
over with before Thanksgiving and then you
can enjoy some of the other tournaments in

778
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.000
the later half of Thanksgiving week.
So we begin with the championship game of

779
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:22.519
this tournament, Number two Purdue versus
number four Marquette for all the marbles at

780
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:27.079
four o'clock on ESPN. Probably the
winner of this game is number one in

781
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:29.000
the country. In the next ape
pull, I would think, right,

782
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:32.800
Purdue for sure, and Marquette probably
leaps to one if they beat one and

783
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.840
two and back to back days,
I would think, give me the Golden

784
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:46.280
Eagles. Wow, I think Perdue
wins man. This is close. Yeah,

785
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.599
I think Purdue wins too. I've
picked against Purdue twice, but I

786
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:52.280
think they win this. I think
Marquette comes down a little bit from the

787
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:58.440
high great showdown between two teams that
are returning just about everybody, but ultimately

788
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:00.760
I'm gonna go with the team that
has the best player, and that is

789
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:06.360
the boiler Makers. Very very fun
tournament to follow though, from beginning to

790
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.559
end. This will be a good
finale. Number eleven Gonzaga versus Number nothing

791
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:15.599
UCLA and fifth place winner gets fifth
place games at eleven at night. Yuck.

792
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.480
At least they're two West Coast teams. Give me the Zags, give

793
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:24.960
me the Bruins. Gonzaga, and
then Shamanad and Syracuse played for seventh place

794
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:27.960
in the later half of the night. I think we all probably want the

795
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:34.159
Orange here, right. Yeah,
Syracuse is bad, but yeah they're playing

796
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:37.760
Shamanad, so yep. Fighting Kyle
Cuffs. Also, did you guys see

797
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:43.840
Bobby Pettiford's three quarter shot game winner
tonight? I did. That was amazing.

798
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.519
Good for you. Yeah. East
Carolina was down in the closing seconds

799
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:53.519
and Bobby Pettiford launched about a fifty
foot game winning three as the Buccaneers beat.

800
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.320
I don't even know who they beat
it was. It was really not

801
00:57:57.400 --> 00:58:00.760
important, but they They've had a
nice buzzer beat. Good job. Happy

802
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:02.840
for you. That's national champion.
Bobby Pettiford to you, all right,

803
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:07.360
let's pick the Battle for Atlantis set
of quarterfinals here. Number fourteen North Carolina

804
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:13.000
taking on Northern Iowa. Feels like
UNC always trips up early in these tournaments,

805
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.239
but I think they win this first
game. Yeah, yeah, I

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agree. Villanova against Texas Tech.
I will take the Wildcats. Not feeling

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the h Grant McCaslin led Red Raiders
just yet. Uh yeah, Nova close

808
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:34.239
though, give me Texas Tech all
right, I like it. Uh.

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Michigan against Memphis. Don't act like
you know anything about these teams. I

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00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:44.280
will take Memphis. Yeah, I
was gonna take them as well. Uh

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yeah, sure. Number twenty Arkansas
against Stanford. I think Jared hass is

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00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.920
on his way out and they lose
to the fighting Eric Musselmans, yep,

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00:58:54.199 --> 00:59:00.599
yeah nit. Tip off game number
thirteen Baylor and our old friend Scott Drew

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00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:05.199
taking on Oregon State. Do the
Bears win? Yes they do? Yeah?

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I agree? And then probably the
sexiest matchup of the back half of

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Thanksgiving week here Number three Arizona versus
number twenty one Michigan State and the Acressher

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00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:17.079
Classic. I don't know why they
decided to call it that, but they

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did probably a sponsor three o'clock on
Thanksgiving. Here is my upset call.

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I will take the Spartans. I
like their makeup. I think they get

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00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:27.280
it going. They have to win
one of these games eventually, why not

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this one? They do not have
to win one of these games, and

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00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:35.760
they will not Arizona. Yeah,
Arizona's gonna win. When do we want

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to do a show next? I
guess it depends on how good the game

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is, right, Yeah, If
the game's epic, we could go sometime

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00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.360
tomorrow. If not, we could
wait a little bit and wait for some

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of these other tournaments to have a
few games happen and maybe ramp up and

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see what happens. Sounds good because
Kansas gets almost a week off after this.

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They play Eastern Illinois after this,
so not a whole lot of reason

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to need to recover for them.
But at the same time, they will

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have a while off. You'll get
a show probably sometime over the weekend,

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if I'm guessing, it'll launch,
and that will be that good. Good

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01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.000
job, guys, back to back
late night shows. We did a team.

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01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:15.920
We pulled through for the three games
in three days, much like Ben

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01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:20.320
Gold I have connected back to back
times. That's not true. Yesterday's show

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was really bad for me. I
thought tonight a little better, despite the

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fact that the game was much much
worse. This is Inside the Pain on

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Rock Chuck Blog. I'm right Landris, I am Ben Gold. Second with

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01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:36.800
a three pointer, I am Ben
Gold. I feel like Nick should have

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01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:39.800
to sign off as and I'm Nick
Timberlake until Nick Timberlake scores fIF Okay,

840
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:44.880
I'm Nick Timberlake. Oh gosh,
you're fired, Nick Timberlake. Get off

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01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:52.400
my podcast. We'll be back.
Tell me twice. Happy Thanksgiving, Bye Hawaii.