1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:06,599 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:33,719 in the UK and around the world. Welcome to the Paranormal Pendal Podcast, 3 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,679 coming to you from the heart of Pendle Witch Country in the northwest of England. 4 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:42,840 My name is Craig Bryant, author, investigator and collector of stories. 5 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:49,439 Join me as we take a journey into the paranormal, UFO sightings, cryptozoology 6 00:00:49,719 --> 00:01:03,439 and big casts. This is the Paranoral Pendal Podcast. Welcome to episode forty 7 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:08,959 seven of Paranormal Pedal, broadcasting to the Paranormal UK Network at PAUK radio dot 8 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,560 com. So this episode is a little bit different. I don't have a 9 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,000 guest for this episode. I did have a guest lined up, but unfortunately 10 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,879 that guest wasn't able to make it. It's one of the hazards of podcasting, 11 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:33,879 especially when you're an amateur podcaster. You do, unfortunately sometimes get people 12 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:40,719 who don't turn up for interviews or cancel interviews at the last minute, and 13 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:45,079 despite my best efforts, don't always reschedule. I have to say it doesn't 14 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,040 happen very often. I can count on one hand when it has. I've 15 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,439 been extremely lucky so far, I'm approaching I'm hoping to get to my fiftieth 16 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:59,040 episode soon. I've had some fantastic guests, some really really great guests, 17 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,359 very interesting people to talk to, more people that are always happy to give 18 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,520 up their time and talk to you about what they believe in and their experiences. 19 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:16,800 And that's what makes the whole podcasting thing for me particularly worthwhile. So 20 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:22,840 what I've decided to do on this episode is just do a bit of a 21 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,520 sort of informal waffle. I suppose it's probably the way it's going to go 22 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:37,560 about rendaltionro Forest, because Rendaltion Forest is of course a famous incident of potential 23 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:44,599 UFO citing in nineteen eighty in Suffolk, and I was lucky to go lucky 24 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:50,319 enough to go down there last week and I did some filming around rendal From 25 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Forest, and I have to say that it is a very interesting place. 26 00:02:57,039 --> 00:03:05,759 The atmosphere is unlike anything actually that I've ever experienced anywhere else. It's definitely 27 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:10,199 got a vibe of its own. It's a very interesting place. The video 28 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,199 that I did is on my YouTube channel, and I will put the link 29 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:20,280 down in the description for this podcast. But what I thought i'd do is 30 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:25,439 I just read some excerpts from various different publications that talk about rendals Forest, 31 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,560 and then just give you my thoughts having been there and having walked the ground 32 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:38,400 and seen the area where the UFOs were allegedly seen, and just the whole 33 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:44,439 feeling of the place, and how I what my take on Rendalson Forest is 34 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:51,360 having visited. So the rendals Forest incident, it was a series of reported 35 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:57,680 sightings of unexplained lights near Rendalstrom Forest in Suffolk, which is down in the 36 00:03:57,719 --> 00:04:03,400 southeast part of England. If you're listening to this from anywhere other than England 37 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,360 and you're not sure where Suffolk is, if you have a look at a 38 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,360 map of England, look at London, go up a little bit into the 39 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,160 right, and there's a bulge sticks out at the side of England. That's 40 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:23,720 the East Anglia and it contains the counties of Suffolk and Norfolk. So Suffolk 41 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:30,040 is the southern bit, Norfolk is the north be so Rendallsham. It became 42 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,959 linked with UFO landings in December of nineteen eighty. Now the events occurred just 43 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:41,199 outside of ourf Woodbridge, which at the time was used by the United States 44 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:49,079 Air Force now THESF personnel, including the deputy based commander, Lieutenant Colonel Charles 45 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:54,720 Holt, claimed that they had seen things that they described as a UFO. 46 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,680 So the occurrence is the most famous of UFO events that has ever happened up 47 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,439 till now in the United Kingdom and is amongst the best known reported UFO events 48 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:12,279 worldwide. It has been compared to Roswell in America and is sometimes actually referred 49 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,439 to as Britain's Roswell. So the UK Ministry of Defense has stated that the 50 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,959 event posed no threat to national security and therefore it was never investigated as a 51 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:29,319 security matter. It's very strange and skeptics have explained the sightings as a misinterpretation 52 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:35,920 of a series of nocturnal lights, possibly fireballs the ufered Nest Lighthouse which is 53 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,319 quite close by, or even bright stars in the sky. So the main 54 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,399 events happened over two nights. The first one was the twenty sixth of December 55 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:53,000 nineteen eighty at around three o'clock in the morning, and this was reported by 56 00:05:53,199 --> 00:05:57,439 Major Holt in a memo that he sent to the UK Ministry of Defense. 57 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,160 He claimed that a security patrol near the East gate of r airwood Bridge saw 58 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:09,000 lights apparently descending into nearby rendalls from forest. These lights had been attributed by 59 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,319 astronomers to a piece of natural debris seen burning up as a fireball over southern 60 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,160 England at the time. Servicemen initially thought it was a downed aircraft. According 61 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,879 to Holt's memo, upon entering the forest to investigate their witness to glowing object 62 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,360 that was metallic in appearance with colored lights. As they attempted to approach the 63 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,160 object, it appeared to move through the trees, and the animals on a 64 00:06:32,199 --> 00:06:36,759 nearby farm went into an absolute frenzy. So one of the service men, 65 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:43,360 a Sergeant Jim Peniston, later claimed to have encountered a as he described it, 66 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:47,279 craft of unknown origin whilst in the forest, although there was no publicized 67 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:51,560 mention of this at the time and there is no corroboration from other witnesses. 68 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:59,160 So shortly after four o'clock in the morning again were still On the twenty sixth 69 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:02,399 of December, local police were called to the scene, but reported that the 70 00:07:02,439 --> 00:07:06,879 only lights they could see were those from Ufford Nest Lighthouse, some miles away 71 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:12,639 on the coast. After daybreak on the morning of the twenty sixth of December, 72 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,120 servicemen returned to a small clearing near the eastern edge of the forest and 73 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:21,160 found three small impressions on the ground in a triangular pattern, as well as 74 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:27,720 burnmarks and broken branches on nearby trees. At ten point thirty the local police 75 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,720 were called out again, this time to see the impressions, which they thought 76 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:38,160 could have been made by an animal. There was an author called Georgina Brune 77 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,639 which she wrote a book You Can't Tell the People published a photograph of the 78 00:07:41,639 --> 00:07:46,879 supposed landing site taken on the morning after the first sighting. So we now 79 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,399 moved on to the twenty eighth of December. A couple of days later, 80 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:56,279 the deputy based Commander, Lieutenant Colonel Holt visited the site with several servicemen in 81 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:01,040 the early hours of the twenty eighth of December. Radiation readings in the triangle 82 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:07,240 of depressions and in the surrounding area using in an stroke PDR DASH twenty seven, 83 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:15,279 a standard US military radiation survey meter. Now although they recorded zero point 84 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:22,240 zero seven million rota gens per hour, in other regions they detected between zero 85 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,959 point zero three and zero point zero four milli rota gens per hour around the 86 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:33,360 background level. Furthermore, they detected a similar small burst over half a mile 87 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:39,039 away from the landing site and Halt recorded the events on a microsette recorder and 88 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,200 this is called the Halt tape. So it was during this investigation that a 89 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,960 flashing red light was seen across the field to the east, almost in line 90 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,080 with the farmhouse, as the witnesses had seen on the first night. Now 91 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,360 the Oyfenest lightouse is visible further to the east in the same line of sight. 92 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:03,559 So later, according to Holt's memo, starlight lights star like lights were 93 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,519 seen in the sky, two to the north and one to the south, 94 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:11,559 about ten degrees above the horizon. Holt said that the brightest of these three 95 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,320 hovered for two to three hours and seemed to beam down stream of lights from 96 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,960 time to time. So astronomers have explained these starlight lights simply as nothing more 97 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:31,279 than bright stars. So Rendalsham Forest is owned by the Forestry Commission and consists 98 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:39,480 of around five point eight square miles about fifteen square kilometers of coniferous plantations with 99 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,000 broad leaf belts, heathland and wetland areas, and as I said, it's 100 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:48,159 located in the County of Suffolk, about eight miles east of the town of 101 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Ipswich. The incident occurred in the vicinity of the two former military bases, 102 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,919 OREF bent Waters, which is just the north of the forest, and I 103 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,320 actually visited the site of RAF bent Waters again. It's now no longer an 104 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:11,200 American US base. And also rif wood Bridge, which extends into the forest 105 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:16,159 from the west and is bounded by the forest on its northern and eastern edges. 106 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:20,360 So at the time both were being used by the United States Air Force. 107 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,879 As I said, we're under the command of Wing Commander Colonel Gordon E. 108 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:31,440 Williams. The base commander was Colonel Ted Conrad and his deputy was Lieutenant 109 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:37,440 Colonel Charles Holt. So the main events of the incident, including the supposed 110 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:41,399 landing or landings, took place in the forest, which starts at the east 111 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,960 end of the base runway, or about zero point three miles roughly about zero 112 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,879 point five kilometers to the east of the east gate of RF wood Bridge, 113 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,679 from where the security guards first noticed mysterious lights appearing to descend into the forest. 114 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,759 The forest extends east for about one mile roughly about one point six kilometers 115 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,240 beyond the east Gate, ending at a farmer's field at Capel Green, where 116 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:11,279 additional events allegedly took place. Wiford Nest Lighthouse, which kept its identify as 117 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:15,759 the flashing lights seeing off the course by the airmen, is along the same 118 00:11:15,799 --> 00:11:20,600 line of sight, about five miles roughly eight kilometers further east of the forest 119 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,480 edge. At that time it was one of the brightest lighthouses in the UK. 120 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:30,919 So the first piece of primary evidence to be made available to the public 121 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:35,120 was a memorandum written by the deputy based Commander, Lieutenant Holt to the Ministry 122 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,360 of Defense. Now this is known as the Holt Memo, and this was 123 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:43,080 made publicly available in the United States under the US Freedom of Information Act in 124 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:48,960 nineteen eighty three. The memorandum was dated thirteenth of January nineteen eighty one under 125 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,440 the title Unexplained Lights. The two week delay between the incident and the report 126 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,480 might account for the errors in the dates and the times given. The memo 127 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,759 was not classified in any way. David Clarke, a consultant in the National 128 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:07,879 Archives, has investigated the background of this memo and the erection of it at 129 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:13,000 the MD. His interviews with the personnel involved, confirmed the curious nature of 130 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:20,639 the investigation made by the mod and failed to find any evidence for any other 131 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:26,600 reports on the incident made by the USAF or UK Apart from the Halt memo, 132 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Halt has since gone on record as saying he believes that he witnessed an 133 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,960 extraterrestrial event that was then covered up. In nineteen eighty four, a copy 134 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,320 of what became known as the Halt Tape was released to UFO researchers by Colonel 135 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:50,720 Sam Morgan, and had by then succeeded Ted Conrad as Holt's superior. This 136 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:56,159 tape chronicles Halt's investigation in the forest in real time, including taking radiation readings, 137 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:01,240 the sighting of the flashing lights between the trees, and the starli like 138 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:07,320 objects that hovered and twinkled. The tape has been transcribed by researcher Ian Ridpath, 139 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:11,720 who includes a link to an audio download and also a step by step 140 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:15,639 analysis of the entire contents of the tape, and you can find that on 141 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:24,360 Wikipedia under the Rendelstrom Forest incident. In nineteen ninety seven, Scottish researcher James 142 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:28,320 Easton obtained the original witness statements made by those involved in the first night sightings. 143 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:35,799 One of the witnesses, ed Caban's Sag said in his statement, we 144 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:41,000 figured that the lights were coming from past the forest, since nothing was visible 145 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,279 when we passed through the woody forest. We would see a glowing near the 146 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,559 beacon light, but as we got closer we found it to be a little 147 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:54,200 farmhouse. We got to a vantage point where we could determine that what we 148 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,320 were chasing was only a beacon of light off in the distance. And other 149 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,799 participants, John Burrows, also stated we could see a beacon going around, 150 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,279 so he went towards it. We followed it for about two miles, roughly 151 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:15,480 about three kilometers before we could see it was coming from the lighthouse. Burrows 152 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,559 reported a noise like a woman was screaming, and also that you could hear 153 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,759 the fire animals making a lot of noise. Halt heard the same noises two 154 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,840 nights later. Such noises could have been made by monk jack deer in the 155 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:33,519 forest, which are known for their loud, shrill bark when alarmed. In 156 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:39,600 June of twenty ten, retired Colonel Holt signed a notarized AFFI David in which 157 00:14:39,639 --> 00:14:45,360 he again summarized what had happened. He stated he believed the event to be 158 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:50,320 extraterrestrial and it had been covered up by both the US and US and UK. 159 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:54,559 Contradictions between this Affi David and the facts as recorded at the time in 160 00:14:54,639 --> 00:15:01,559 Halt's memo and tape recording have been pointed out. In twenty ten, Based 161 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:07,600 Commander Colonel Ted Conrad provided a statement about the incident's clarke. Conrad stated that 162 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:11,200 we saw nothing that resembled Lieutenant Colonel Holt's description, either in the sky or 163 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,720 on the ground, and that we had people in per position to validate Holt's 164 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:22,200 narrative, but none of them could. In an interview, Conrad criticized Holtz 165 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,440 for the claims in his Affidavid, saying he should be ashamed and embarrassed by 166 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:33,480 his allegation that his country and Britain both conspired to deceive their citizens over this 167 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:39,639 issue. He should know better. Conrad also disputed the testimony of Sergeant Jim 168 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:45,919 Peniston, who claimed to have touched the alien spacecraft. He said that he 169 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,519 interviewed Peniston at the time and he made no mention of any such currents. 170 00:15:50,879 --> 00:15:58,679 Conrad also suggested that the entire incident might have been a haax. In nineteen 171 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:03,639 eighty, the Three Omni article says that Colonel Ted Conrad, the base commander, 172 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:07,960 recalls five Air Force police spotted lights from what they thought was a small 173 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,200 plane descending into the forest. Two of the men tracked the objects on foot 174 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:18,159 and came across a large tripod mounted craft. It had no windows, but 175 00:16:18,279 --> 00:16:22,200 were studded with brilliant red and blue lights. Each time the men came within 176 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,639 fifty yards of the shape, Conrad relates it levitated six feet in the air 177 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:32,320 and back to wait. They followed it for almost an hour through the woods 178 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,879 and across the field until it took off at phenomenal speed. Acting on the 179 00:16:37,919 --> 00:16:41,519 reports made by his men, Colonel Conrad began a brief investigation of the incident. 180 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:48,759 In the mourning he went into the forest and located a triangular pattern ostensibly 181 00:16:48,799 --> 00:16:52,799 made by the tripod legs. He did interview two of the eyewitnesses and concludes 182 00:16:53,320 --> 00:17:00,440 those lads saw something, but I don't know what it was. Suffolk Police 183 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,839 were called to the scene on the night of the initial sighting and again the 184 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,680 following morning, but found nothing unusual. On the night of the initial incident. 185 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:15,400 They reported that the only lights visible were from Orford Lighthouse. They attributed 186 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:21,599 the indentations in the ground to animals. The Suffolk Constabulary file on the case 187 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:26,839 was released in two thousand and five under the UK's Freedom of Information Act and 188 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,920 can be accessed on their website. It includes a letter dated the twenty eighth 189 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:37,319 of July nineteen ninety nine, written by Inspector Mark Topless, who notes that 190 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,599 one of the police constables who attended the scene on the first night returned to 191 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,400 the sighting daylight in case he'd missed something. There was nothing to be seen, 192 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:51,000 he said, and he remained unconvinced that the occurrence was genuine. The 193 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:56,200 immediate area was swept by powerful lightbeams from a landing beacon at Aria Bentwaters and 194 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,079 the Offord Nest Lighthouse, and of from personal experience that at night, in 195 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:06,799 certain weather and cloud conditions, those beams were very pronounced and certainly callsed strange 196 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:14,079 visual effects. Evidence of a substantial mord file on the subject led to claims 197 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:18,279 of a cover up. Some interpreted this as part of a larger pattern of 198 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:26,319 information suppression concerning the true nature of unidentified flying objects by both the United States 199 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,119 and British governments. However, when the file was released in two thousand and 200 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:36,000 one, it turned out to consist mostly of internal correspondence and responses to inquiries 201 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,599 from the public. The lack of any in depth investigation in the publicity release 202 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,480 documents is consistent with the mold's earliest statement that they never took the case seriously. 203 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:52,640 Included in the release files is an explanation given by Defense Minister Lord Treft 204 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:59,920 Game as to why the MOLD did not investigate further. So. One proposed 205 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,960 theory is that the incident was a hawax. The BBC reported that a former 206 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:11,119 US security policeman, Kevin Conder, claimed responsibility for creating strange lights in the 207 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,200 forest by driving around in a police vehicle whose lights have been modified. However, 208 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,240 there is no evidence that this pranked up place on the nights in question. 209 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:25,480 Other explanations to the incident have included a downed Soviet Spice satellite, but 210 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:30,200 again no evidence has ever been produced to support this. The most widely accepted 211 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,680 explanation is that the sightings were due to a combination of three main factors. 212 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,359 The initial sighting at three am on the twenty sixth of December, when the 213 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:45,599 airman saw something apparently descending into the forest. Coincided with the appearance of a 214 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,480 bright fireball over southern England, and such fireballs are a common source of UFO 215 00:19:49,599 --> 00:19:56,640 reports. The supposed landing marks were identified by police and foresters as rabbit Diggins. 216 00:19:56,279 --> 00:20:00,440 No evidence has emerged to confirm that anything actually came down in the forest. 217 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,960 According to the witness statements from the twenty sixth of December, the flashing 218 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,000 lights seen from the forest lay in the same direction as the Orford Nest Lighthouse. 219 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,759 When the eyewitnesses attempted to approach the light, they realized it was further 220 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:22,839 off than their thought. One of the witnesses, ed Caban Sig, described 221 00:20:22,839 --> 00:20:26,359 it as a beacon light off in the distance, whilst another, John Burrows, 222 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:33,480 said it was a lighthouse. Timings on Halt's take recording during the sighting 223 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,039 on the twenty eighth of December, indicate that the light he saw, which 224 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,000 lay in the same direction as the light seen two nights earlier, flashed every 225 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:45,880 five seconds, which was the flash rates of the Orford Nest Lighthouse. The 226 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,519 starlight objects that Halt reported hovering low to the north and south are thought by 227 00:20:51,519 --> 00:20:56,799 some skeptics to have been misinterpretations of bright stars which had been distorted by atmospheric 228 00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:00,960 and optical effects. Another common source of ufour reports, the brightest of Them 229 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:04,880 to the South, matched the position of Sirius, the brightest star in the 230 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:12,839 night sky. In his sixth of January two thousand and nine Skeptoid podcast episode 231 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:23,359 entitled the rendellschrom Forest USO, Scientific skeptic author Brian Dunning evaluated the original eyewitness 232 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,640 reports and audio recordings, as well as the result in media reporting of this 233 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:36,720 incident. After a lengthy analysis, Dunning concluded that Colonel Holt's thoroughness was commendable, 234 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,759 but even he can be mistaken. Without exception. Everything he reported on 235 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:47,039 his audio tape and in his written memo has a perfectly rational and unremarkable explanation. 236 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:51,759 All that remains is the tale that the men were debriefed and ordered never 237 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:56,799 to mention the effect the event, and warned that bullets are cheap. Well, 238 00:21:56,839 --> 00:22:00,559 as we've seen on television, the men also quite freely about it, 239 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:06,160 and even Colonel Holt says to this day that nobody has ever debriefed him. 240 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:11,119 So this appears to be just another dramatic invention for television, perhaps from one 241 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,519 of the men who have expanded their stories over the years. When you examine 242 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,640 each piece of evidence separately on its own merit, you avoid the trap of 243 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,720 pattern matching and finding correlations where none exist. The meteors had nothing to do 244 00:22:23,799 --> 00:22:27,920 with the lighthouse or the rabbit Diggins, but when you hear all three stories 245 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,960 told together, it's easy to conclude, as did the airmen, that the 246 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:37,599 light overhead became an alien spacecraft in the forest. Always remember, separate pieces 247 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:45,240 of poor evidence don't aggregate together into a single piece of good evidence. In 248 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:48,319 twenty ten, Jenny Randalls, who first reported the case in the London Evening 249 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,279 Standard in nineteen eighty one and co authored with the local researchers who uncovered the 250 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:59,640 events the first book on the case in nineteen eighty four, Skycrash, A 251 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:06,400 cos Conspiracy, emphasized her previously expressed doubts that the incident was caused by extraterrestrial 252 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:11,759 visitors, while suggesting that a UAP, an unidentified aerial phenomena of unknown origin, 253 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,400 might have caused part of the case. She noted, while some of 254 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,519 the puzzles remain, we can probably say that no unearthly craft were seen in 255 00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:25,519 rendels from forest. We can also argue with confidence that the main focus of 256 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:30,839 the events was a series of mis preconceptions of everyday things encountered in a less 257 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:37,960 than everyday circumstance. In December of twenty eighteen, David Clarke, a British 258 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:41,319 UFOR researcher, reported a claim that the incident was a set up by the 259 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:48,480 SAS as a revenge plot on the USAF. According to this story, in 260 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:53,359 August nineteen eighty, the SAS parachuted into our ref Woodbridge to test the security 261 00:23:53,440 --> 00:24:00,519 at the nuclear site. The USAF had recently upgraded their radar and detected the 262 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:04,559 black parachutes of the SAS men as they descended to the base. The SAS 263 00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:10,759 troops were interrogated and beaten up with the ultimate insult that they were called unidentified 264 00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:17,200 aliens. To enact their revenge, the SAS gave the USAF their own version 265 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,160 of an alien event. As December approached, lights and colored floors were rigged 266 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,160 in the woods. Black helium balloons were also coupled to remote controlled kites to 267 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:33,359 carry suspended materials into the sky, activated by remote controls. However, Clark's 268 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:41,279 investigation concluded that this story was also a haax. So as you can see, 269 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,759 there are various different theories as to what happened over those few days. 270 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:52,599 I remain skeptical until something is proved. If I can see proof that something's 271 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:59,920 happened, then that obviously makes a huge difference. Having been to Rendalls from 272 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:07,359 Forest, I have to admit that the whole place was quite creepy. It 273 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:14,400 was certainly very atmospheric. Whether or not that was because of the story around 274 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,920 the name Rentals from Forest and what it cojures up in your mind. Maybe 275 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,559 I was a little bit more on edge, Maybe I was a little bit 276 00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:27,480 more sensitive to what was going on around me. The video that I've put 277 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:33,880 on YouTube, I think shows quite well what the layout of the forest is 278 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:40,839 like. There is a huge area, and I did take some film of 279 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,839 this that was later cleared by the Forestry Commission, and you'll see it. 280 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:52,480 There's a couple of dead trees, just almost petrified trees that are just stuck 281 00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:59,079 in the middle of this area. It's difficult to sort of engage the size 282 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,000 of the area, but it was certainly quite a few hundred George Cross and 283 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,200 quite a few hundred geords deep. It was. It was a large area 284 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,400 and you'll you'll see it on the video. Now the Forestry Commission apparently came 285 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,160 in and cleared this area, and it's been cleared in quite a precise way. 286 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,319 I mean it's almost, you know, perfectly square at the corners. 287 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:26,559 It's it's quite a bizarre part of the forest. Obviously, I've interviewed people 288 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:33,839 in the past who've mentioned that when they have been alleged down UFOs, the 289 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:41,839 Forestry Commission have suddenly appeared and cleared out huge areas of forests where these these 290 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:48,400 UFOs were allegedly seen or allegedly crashed. Could this be a similar story at 291 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,519 Rendlesham? I don't know. If you watched the video, you can make 292 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:57,000 your own mind up. It is a very very strange part of the forest. 293 00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:00,759 The whole area, as I said, has got a real feel about 294 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:04,799 it. One of my thoughts on it well, as I say, I'm 295 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:11,319 skeptical. Was it a UFO? Possibly? Was it the sas possibly? 296 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:22,839 Was it lights from Orford Nests Lighthouse or stellar phenomena stars in the sky possibly? 297 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:26,759 Who knows, But I think it's an interesting story. I'm glad I 298 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,359 went down to have a look at the area. I'm glad I managed to 299 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,759 get some film. Please, if you can just take time out to click 300 00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:38,240 on the link on the description and just follow the link to my YouTube channel 301 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,599 and you'll see the video on there. I'd love you to comment about what 302 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:52,240 you think went on at Rendlesham and hopefully you'll enjoy the video as much as 303 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:56,640 I enjoyed making it. So thank you for listening. I hope you've enjoyed 304 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:03,519 this slightly different podcast. I apologize for stumbling over a couple of words as 305 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:07,400 I was reading some of the text, but you know you've got to You've 306 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,039 got to try these things in order to move forward. So again, thank 307 00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:17,599 you for listening. Take care of everybody and we will speak soon. You 308 00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:23,200 can visit my website at www dot Craig Bryant dot co dot uk. Paramalpendle 309 00:28:23,319 --> 00:29:12,720 will return and remember to keep watching the shadows and pas