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Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
a brand new episode of the Poker Girl

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Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. I am joined by Tim Duckworth,

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mister double Underscore himself. How are
you, my friend. I'm doing good.

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I'm enjoying this rainy Las Vegas weather. It's still raining by you,

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it's not raining today by me.
I'm looking in the pool and in the

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pool. The pool's done, it's
done. It's beautiful. Give us the

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pool update. It's a lot of
money a pool, but it's beautiful.

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It looks good. I've been in
the hot tub, watching movies in the

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hot tub, watching football from the
hot tub. Caleb, my son's been

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getting in. He's a little crazy. He's been jumping in the pool.

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It's about fifty degrees, so I've
got him at seven years old, doing

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spots and going back and forth between
the one hundred degree hot tub and the

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fifty degree pool like a maniac.
But it's good. It's good to have

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a backyard. It's obviously a you
know, we got six months until we're

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really going to put it to use
when the weather warms up. But I'm

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enjoying it good. I'm glad.
On today's show, we got to do.

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We have to talk about a giveaway. We're not going to do the

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giveay because it doesn't happen till tomorrow. Tim Twitter. Yeah, yeah,

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we got to remind people of what
this crazy thing is that you have to

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do. As we promised on the
last episode, we're going to get into

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the napt that returned and launched or
relaunched in Las Vegas. So we're going

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to talk about that, wrap it
up, give our impressions of the entire

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series. We're going to talk about
WSP Europe. The main event just finished

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yesterday, so we got to hit
on that. Some of those events as

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part of WSP Eupe counted towards the
PGT. So we got some leaderboard updates

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that I'm going to let Tim talk
about when we get to that point.

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We got a WPT tournament happened.
Oh my god, it actually happened.

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Just kidding. WPT is back,
and then I mean, maybe, well

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we'll do some venting about F one. I don't know, maybe we will,

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maybe we won't. It's in town. I mean the next couple of

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days they had, like the opening
ceremony last night. I saw that on

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social media. Was that I think
it was. I actually don't know where

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it was. I'm assuming it was
probably over by the paddock area because that's

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where is the I didn't know what
the paddock is. Is kind of right

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by the office. Yeah, it's
a huge building they built right by Top

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Golf. I got it across,
I get it. I thought it was

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like at the win. I saw
people at the wind, I saw people

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near the sphere. I just didn't
know where anyone was. I mean,

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I'm very confused. Everyone's just trying
to do everything, so it's it's pretty

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crazy out there. As always,
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and I will let Tim talk about
it because I do not fully understand

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what all of this is, so
Tim can can break it down. It's

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it's very simple, so I don't
understand. To give you crab, just

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must include the hashtag family pot.
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First up, the North American Poker
Tour return. I don't know if you

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heard Tim, but it's been the
first time in more than a decade that

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the North American Poker too or so
it's funny that was kind of the running

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joke, you know, because they
poker stars had constantly said it over and

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over and over again, you know, first time back and more than a

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decade, blah blah blah whatever.
But it's also interesting that you and I

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were there, you know, a
bunch of days, both just there hanging

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around seeing some people and also they're
playing. And I don't know if if

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you're gonna echo the same sort of
sentiment that I'm about to say, but

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we'll see if you do. Is
that I felt like a lot of people

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still didn't fully know about it.
Or didn't know about it till the last

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minute. So I thought that that
was interesting just hearing that from a lot

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of people. I mean, I
thought the marketing was pretty out there and

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in your face. I mean,
I you know, I just I felt

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like it was everywhere that I looked. I did have one conversation with somebody,

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and you know, they were telling
me how they didn't think that they

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they don't recall really seeing it.
They didn't know until a couple of days

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before. I mean, listen,
end of the day. I know how

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poker players are. You know how
poker players are. So I think I

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came to the conclusion of this is
that and maybe this goes into I know,

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we're going to give our you know, some feedback or whatever, but

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like maybe this falls into that bucket, is that maybe people saw the initial

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announcements of the napt returning, they
saw that it was a sixteen hundred and

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fifty dollars main event, and then
they kind of just disregarded it because you

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would think that napt is poker stars. You know, the old ones were

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five k's. The EPT now is
all the five k's. That's what you

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expect. So if you get initially
pushed something that you think is akin to

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like an MSBT, a WSP circuit, et cetera. Maybe it doesn't have

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that oomph behind it to really push
you over the top. So then you

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just kind of like, okay,
whatever, it's just a sixteen fifty,

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Like no big deal, you know, because I think a lot of the

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players that said they hadn't heard about
it were players that I would expect to

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like play a thirty five hundred to
a five K. So maybe they just

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said, I'm not going to bother
it, and then then you just forget

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about it, and then you make
the claim later on that you'd never heard

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about it, when I would guess
that probably everyone heard about it in one

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way, shape or form. I
mean, the marketing was everywhere. So

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that's my conclusion there. I don't
know if that's right or wrong, but

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anyway, that's that. Speaking of
the sixteen hundred and fifty dollars main event,

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one thousand and ninety five entries,
this did have a one point five

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million dollar prize bool, so it
eclipsed that not by much, but it

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did eclipse it just over one point
six million dollars in the prize bowl.

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Of those one thousand and ninety five
entries. One hundred and fifty nine finished

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in the money. The winner,
taking home almost two hundred and sixty nine

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thousand dollars, was Sammy besha Head, Sammy the dealer besha Head, who

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took down the event. He's a
dealer for Hustler Casino Live. I believe,

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yes, I believe, so yeah. He is going to be a

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new father soon. He's originally from
France, I believe, but lives out

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in California. Now I know this
because I played with him a bit on

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Day one D. He was directly
to my right, played extremely well.

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Him and I gotten some fun pots
where we kind of went back and forth,

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and he was he was fun to
battle with. So at least from

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where I stand, a worthy winner, you know. So yeah, Beshahead

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beat John Bornstein and heads up played. David Coleman finished third, Ping Lou

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fourth, Sergio Aido fifth, Nick
Schulman sixth, and then Ryan Lang ninth,

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Aaron Massey tenth, Matthew Wantman got
twelfth, and one of our favorite

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poker vloggers out there, Japanese sensation
Masado Yokosawa, got thirteenth. There is

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a footnote that Donny Peters and Tim
Duckworth did not cash. Unfortunately. I'm

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made day two, so I did
better than you. You did, yes,

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but you spend more money than me. It doesn't matter on the scoreboard.

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I made day two, you did
not. We know that the scoreboard

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does not include how many times you
entered. I did fire three bullets though,

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for full transparency, And yeah,
I didn't think I was have to

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fire all three bullets that I brought. But you were standing there when I

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busted, literally on the last hand
before registration, before the break of when

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registration was closed. So yeah,
I mean I thought this event was was

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good. Okay, we'll save our
feedback till the end. We'll do it

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kind of our feedback at the end. A lot of feedback. Yeah,

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I mean, I got listen,
there's a lot of things that that are

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on both sides, Like I think, you know, I'd put them in

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the camp of this was great,
and then I'd put them in the camp

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of this needs improvement. I'm not
going to say anything was bad. I

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don't think anything was like overwhelmingly bad. But we'll get to that in a

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bit. The whole series, the
napt series kicked off with a ten three

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hundred dollars super high roller. That's
their naming convention, not ours, because

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I would never call a ten k
event a super high roller. But that's

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that's what they do at APT correct
as well, that's the what do you

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mean they have? They have fifty
k's on the epts. Usually all epts

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have a five K main event then
at like a ten k high roller and

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a twenty five K high roller in
like the fifty k or one hundred K

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super high roller. I believe,
if I remember correctly, that's how it

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tends to break out. This ten
K super high roller had fifty nine entries,

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five hundred and seventy two thousand dollars
in the prize poll. Top eight

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finished in the money. Jesse lonis
a familiar phase. He plays the PGT

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events. He's in the studio regularly. He's been he's been hot for the

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last couple of years. He's been
hot. This year he took it down

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one hundred and seventy four five hundred
and fifty dollars for him. David Stam

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finished in second, Sergio Ado finished
in third. Aido of course I just

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mentioned finished in fifth place in the
main event as well. You had Richard

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Green finishing at four, Sam's overall, fifth, Jim Callipy six, Jim

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John Morgan excuse me, seventh,
and Shannon Shore in eighth place. Then

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you had, i'll say, a
trio of five K events, three hundred

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dollars buyings, You had a fifty
three hundred dollars potlom no Omaha event,

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you had a fifty three hundred dollars
Mixed games event, and you had the

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fifty three hundred dollars high roller.
So the fifty three hundred dollars PLO had

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forty one entries, almost two hundred
thousand dollars in the prize pool. Caleb

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Firth took it down sixty eight thousand, six hundred and five dollars there.

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Joos Samoo, the Brazilian who had
some success during the recent PGTPLO series.

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He finished in second, Spencer Simpson, third, Dan Shack, fourth,

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David Coleman, fifth, Matthew Wantman
in six. It was only six players

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in the money there. In the
Mixed Games tournament again fifty three hundred dollars

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buying there thirty two entries, just
over one hundred and fifty five k in

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the prize school. Ellie Elezra Mister
seven cards stud himself took it down fifty

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three thousand, five hundred and forty
dollars. Michael Martinelli is the player he

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beats and heads up play. Julian
Martini third, David Funkowser fourth, Eric

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Sagstrom fifth, Eric won two three
The Legendary Suite takes fifth, and David

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ODB Baker, a favorite of ours, a favorite of the podcast, took

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sixth place there. Then you had
the fifty three hundred dollars high Roller event.

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This was kind of the closing event
of the series because it took place.

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I mean it was a post limb
to the main event, is what

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it was. Had a five hundred
k prize pool, drew one hundred and

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fifty entries, seven hundred and twenty
five five hundred dollars in the prize well

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top twenty paid. Samuel Laskowitz took
down the event one hundred and eight hundred

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and fifty dollars. There, Shannon
Shore took second place. Jesse Lonis,

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who won that ten K super high
Roller to kick off the series. He

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finished third, John Reard and fourth, John Andres fifth, Nadia and Magnus

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got seven. Salzburg that's Matthew Salisburg
got eleventh, Michael Josoff twelfth, Anthony

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who's sixteenth, and John Morgan who
we mentioned earlier having a result. He

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finished in seventeenth. There. So
that wraps up the big events as part

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of the NAPT. The return of
the NAPT last time. What was it

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twenty eleven was the last one?
Yeah, I believe it was twenty eleven.

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It's funny because you think about the
NAPT and like we all we all

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think back on it and whatever,
and you you almost think like it was

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around for like five six years.
It was around for like a year and

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a half. It was in it
obviously was very well received, very successful,

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and then boom Black Friday hits and
see you later. Like you know,

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it was like in and out.
So it's it's funny to just think

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back on it and you know,
you think it was round for several years

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just because it it drew so much
attention and it was like very cool and

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it was obviously poker stars and we
get it and it was great, but

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in reality, it wasn't around for
that long. That said, it's of

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course great to have the NAPT brand
back. I guess that leads me to

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my question here. As we get
into like, you know, some of

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our thoughts on the event, our
you know, our criticisms, if we

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have any, you know, what
went well, et cetera. First things

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first, and I'll throw it to
you. Tim is like, well,

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what do we think becomes of the
NAPT from here? I mean, is

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this what we're going to get?
Are we going to get sixteen to fifty

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main events, a ten k super
high roller, a five K high roller,

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or some mixed games plo. And
they're like, is this the the

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blueprint for the new version of the
NAPT or what I mean, what are

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your thoughts there? I could see
the main event buying potentially going up to

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maybe around that three K mark.
I think that would be a pretty competitive

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price point for I think what they're
going for. As for the schedule,

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you know, speaking to you know
a lot of people at Stars, they

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didn't have full control. It was
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So I feel that, you know, now that they've got their feet wet,

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they might see some changes, especially
with the high roller structure. You

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know, the American high roller market
very different to the European high roller market.

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So we may see some tweaks there. I did like the mix of

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the schedule. You know, there's
some mixed games or some PLO low buyings,

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all that kind of stuff, So
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much. I think they'll just make
some small tweaks. Personally, sixteen hundred

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dollars is a good price point.
I just think they could definitely go up

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to whether it's twenty five hundred or
thirty three hundred something like that. You

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know, there's a lot of talk
about a five k maybe main that's pretty

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big. I'm not sure if that
could be supported in other regions where the

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NAPT might go. We're obviously going
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some areas that PokerStars as base Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Canada. Will five

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K be supported there? I'm not
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I think they would want to probably
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So thirty three hundred that's my recommendation. And yeah, yeah, I mean

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I think that sounds all right.
I'm not going to say I totally agree

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with you, but I think our
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I just think that they should be
all five ks. It would make

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sense. But like I just first
of all, I think it could.

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I think it. I think it
could work for a couple of reasons.

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One, I think there's a void
for the five k buy in market within

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the North American poker landscape. Now. The only real player there is the

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I mean, I'm not including the
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put that out there ahead of time. The WA CIP in the summer is

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obviously different than anything else. It's
it's its own it's its own island,

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and a very big, great island
at that. But like it's the World

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Poker Tour, right, But I
mean the World Poker Tour, I feel

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like, is very very different than
the World Poker Tour we've grown up with.

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I mean they they don't. I
mean that they used to have.

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It was like an event every month, if not two events a month,

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there was you know, twenty to
twenty five main tour stops a year.

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I mean now it's like there's like
what six seven, Yeah, Like there's

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you know, two or three of
them kind of in the spring, there's

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one to kind of kick off the
year. There's you know, there's one

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coming up now there's obviously the win
one, you know. But but like

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the WPT that that that the WPG
started, you know, it had all

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those ten k's. Then it kind
of transitioned to like thirty five hundreds to

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five k's in a lot of places, you know, and then some select

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ten k's with like the l A
PC Lagiero five Diamond, et cetera.

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And in that window when they were
doing a lot of like the thirty five

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hundreds of the five ks, that's
when they were running like, you know,

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twenty to twenty four events a year, main tour events, right,

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I mean, now, it's they're
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That's why I kind of poke fun
at the beginning saying like, oh,

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they had an event finally in Jacksonville, you know, I mean,

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I'm just I'm poking fun. But
that's why I feel like there's there's an

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opening in the market for this event. And now I will say that it's

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it's not it's not an easy opening
for someone to get a hold of,

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but you're poker stars. So the
potential for you to grab hold of that

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market, for you to own that
portion of the poker tour schedule in North

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America, I think is greatly heightened. Like you can do it, you

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know, And one of the reasons
I think you can do it is because

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you're an online operator and you can
fuel this thing with qualifiers, which I

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saw a lot of qualifiers, and
I played with a bunch. I saw

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a bunch not only qualifiers from the
regions where Poker Stars is available within the

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US, but also from like Europe. You know, there was people that

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came over because they paired it with
the whole f one thing. So you

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know, I kind of in a
way, at least I want to view

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it like back in the day when
Poker Stars was available to play here,

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like I would spend some time trying
to qualify for EPT events. You know,

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well, it kind of be cool
if you're in Europe and now you

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can qualify for NAPT events, Like
you know, it's cool to come over

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to the States, like it's cool
to come to Las Vegas, to come

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to you know, Philadelphia, that
that area, Like, you know,

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you compare it with some good things
that are happening at the in the regions

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that you're available. So I think
that that can help if as a company,

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if they have behind satelliting people in
from different regions, is in Europe

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to America, Then yeah, I
do think the five ks could definitely work,

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like you said, ye, and
I just you know, yeah,

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I feel like the five K.
Now, I would have like an eleven

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hundred or a fifteen hundred to like
open up the series very much like they

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do on the epts. You know, the EPT has in a lot of

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spots, like they have the Eureka
Poker Tour or the Austraeas Poka Tour or

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whatever it is, and it's that
it's that first kind of opener that's like

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the sub tour to the main tour, that sort of thing. I don't

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think you need like an official sub
tour, but you could have like an

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opener. I actually like they had
that five fifty Poker Stars Cup. Yeah,

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like in a way, like I
would change that to like a one

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K, like an eleven hundred dollars
buy in. That's what you kick off

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the series with the Poker Stars an
APT cup, Like that's the kind of

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the initial opening thing that leads into
a five K. So yeah, you

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know, I just feel like there's
very much an opportunity here for the NAPT

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So that's kind of my first I
mean, I guess that falls into criticism

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because I just personally like, I
don't think you needed a soft launch me

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personally, and I think we've talked
about this before on this podcast, is

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that I feel like the Poker Stars
brand is strong enough. I feel like

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the NAPT brand, even though it's
been gone for so long, more than

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a decade, is extremely strong.
So they could have brought it back with

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a five K, you know,
I feel like a sixteen fifty main that

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has a one point five million dollar
prize pool that only gets sixty one point

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six million in the prize pool ultimately. I mean that's kind of like it's

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not that it's a letdown, but
it's just not a like a big story

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that I would anticipate from the napt's
return, right, So that's where I'm

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at with that. What I will
say is some some thoughts on some other

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things. Resorts World is fucking awesome. I mean, like, at least

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from everything that I see, is
like the venue itself isn't doing like so

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hot within Vegas because it's newer and
it's obviously big, and they spent a

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whole crap ton of money to make
it. I mean that place is so

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incredibly nice. It's so nice,
and like the conference space where the tournament

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was held is so so so so
so nice, so elite. It's just

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like everything is first of all,
everything's brand new, of course, but

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also like everything's like digital, Like
all the signage is digital on all the

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rooms, which is like, you
know, obviously great where it is within

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the property because you can walk kind
of right out. You got like Starbucks

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is like a five minute walk.
You've got that little line of shops is

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like right there. The restaurants are
you know, down a couple of flights

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of stairs instead of on the other
side of the property, like you know,

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you're when once you get to the
conference area, like you're separate from

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like the casino space. So it's
like, I don't know, I loved

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it. I thought it was great. Like I I think I think Poker

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Stars and or Resorts World like really
need to lean into that space from a

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poker aspect. I don't know if
that's Resorts World like doing it on its

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own, you know, kind of
building its own brand, or if that's

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everything is just paired with Poker Stars
and the NAPT. I don't know exactly

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how I envisioned that, but as
a poker guy, like it was it

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was incredible for that space, right. I mean obviously Poker Stars brings it

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with you know, their on site
marketing, you know, all the stuff

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that they put up, the branding, et cetera. Like it it felt

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like an EPT. And if you've
ever been to an EPT or see an

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EPT, you know exactly what I'm
talking about. It just it felt way

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better than anything else that's available in
the US market right now, Like it

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just did. Definitely, Yeah,
it was so much nicer than I expected.

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The way they like that like dressed
it up, the amount of stuff

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they had on side to you know, exercise, the giveaways, you know,

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help people out. And yeah,
impression wise, I was a plus.

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I love everything about it except losing
money. Resorts World uses Poker at

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List. I mean, I honestly
I need to start a campaign for like

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all these companies to change to Poker
Atles. I mean, I don't know

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what why on earth you would ever
use Bravo these days. It boggles my

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mind. But just the functionality of
Poker Atlas just seems like it's very much

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more modern, whereas Bravo just seems
like it's in the past, and I

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think we can speak with some experience
because at the studio it uses Bravo.

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So yeah, I mean like I
feel like we need to start pushing the

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studio to use Poker Atlas. I
think it's it's really great, you know,

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you know, the versatility that that
platform has. Also, like you

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know, just I talked with Justin
Hammer, who works with Poker atlis a

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lot, you know, and he
was telling me how, yeah, Poker

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Outlist is still new and it's it's
obviously a hard thing to like get in

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there, and like you know,
buck the Grandfather trend. But one of

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the benefits is is that versatility and
is that intimacy that you have with the

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Poker Atlas staff or like you're working
with them, they have somebody on site,

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like if you ask them for something
they needed, if they don't have

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it, they might be able to
build it. You know. Like that

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sort of stuff is very good.
Where Bravo just seems like it's been Bravo

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forever. I mean since I came
into poker, and you know, it's

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like it has it ever changed.
I mean, it's the same old thing.

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So so yeah, I loved that
Poker atless was available there, and

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I think more venues should really explore
using it. I thought the dealers were

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incredible. I didn't have one issue
with the dealer in the three three days

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that I played. They were all
extremely, extremely good, which is you

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know, that's that's what you expect
from poker stars, because when you go

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to the EPT, the EBT has
amazing dealers. So you come here,

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I mean it's like, well,
who are they going to get for the

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dealers here that they found the best
of the best. A lot of them

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were American, but they found the
best of the best, and that was

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very good. I already mentioned the
qualifiers. I thought it was great to

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see a lot of qualifiers, you
know, all over from the US also

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from elsewhere in the world, which
we know that you know that bolsters events

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things that I think need a little
bit of improvement. The schedule itself,

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you know, like I mean,
you and I talked about it, that

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sort of thing, like you know, you don't start a tournament on a

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Sunday with a ten k I mean
I was. I was at a ten

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K player's house on that Sunday with
the group of friends from Grid Aaron Gamble.

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We were at somebody's house and like, that person's a poker player who

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might play the ten k, but
he didn't know about it. A lot

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a lot of people he was texting
with didn't know about it. He's like,

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you know that that sort of thing. So I know that a lot

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of our players didn't really know about
it, you know, So that was

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I think a bit of a miss
an extension of that. I'm never starting

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a sixteen to fifty man event on
a Monday, just ever, Like that

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needs to be Thursday, Friday,
Saturday starts. You know. That is

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I think almost every tournament, you
know, at least in the US.

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And maybe this is because you know
it was there was a large a large

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hand at play from the EPT staff. So things are different in Europe,

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I get it. But here in
America I would really push not just poker

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stars but all operators, like your
your main events, the thing that you

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want to be, like the big
field event. Like if you have three

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starting days Thursday, Friday, Saturday. If you have two starting days,

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either Friday Saturday I think is best, but Thursday Friday can work, right

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I especially at the price point of
sixteen fifty that's very You're not just getting

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pro you're getting wrecks like you're getting
sixteen fifty to make it accessible. Well,

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then you need to double down on
that by making it not during the

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week. I mean, I skipped
Monday because I knew I had to work

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and I was going to plan around
work. You know, maybe I fire

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another two if it's on Thursday,
Friday, Saturday. Like you know,

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I'm a working person, so I
think I can speak to that U little

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bit. Yes, sometimes the turbo
flights, the ones, the two early

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ones that ended at five fifteen am, you have to you have to throw

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those in the trash and never speak
about them ever again. Okay never now

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the third like, so, what
they did is they had three starting days

407
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.400
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and
then each day had two flights. You

408
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.559
had one started at eleven, then
you had at least on the first two

409
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.240
days it was eleven and I think
five or six. And then but those

410
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.519
flights were the same structure on the
first two days. The third day you

411
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:44.799
had the big starting flight was at
eleven am, and then I think it

412
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:47.799
was at eight o'clock you had a
turbo starting flight. I'm all for like

413
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.279
final turbo starting flights that ended like
one or two AM something like that,

414
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:53.519
drew a you know, respectable number
of one hundred and thirteen entry. So

415
00:27:53.559 --> 00:28:00.240
yeah, if youeople want to blast
into a turbo flight like great. I

416
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.279
guess as a whole, the structure
of this tournament was like almost too good.

417
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.039
I mean it was the structure was
great. I don't know if that's

418
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.319
necessarily a good thing or a bad
thing. I know, obviously a lot

419
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:18.160
of people like it. And I've
talked about this before and I usually talk

420
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:19.480
about it when I when it comes
to like the w s AP stuff,

421
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:26.440
is that as a working person,
I just tend to kind of avoid events

422
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:27.759
where I think I'm going to be
locked in or I have the potential to

423
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.480
be locked in for three, four
or five days, right. I mean,

424
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.519
obviously it's good to be locked in
for that long, but I'm more

425
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.079
of like a two to three days
for a poker tournament, unless it's like

426
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.359
the w CP main event, WPT, you know, World Championship at the

427
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.279
Wins something like that that you're really
like splurging for, you know. But

428
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.039
these, yeah, these smaller buying
event That's why I like, you know,

429
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.039
like the Colossus, the Mini main
event, like all that sort of

430
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.039
stuff that the World Series, because
you you know those those eight hundred dollars

431
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.680
deep stacks, like I mean it's
two three days, you know, and

432
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.359
you're you're in, the other in
you're out. I mean this term it

433
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.400
was first day, it was forty
minute levels, but you got to I

434
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.480
think it was level seven and eight
were the same, or it was nine

435
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:10.160
and ten were the same level of
double level. There was two back to

436
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:15.200
back double levels, like the next
day that the the levels into sixty minutes.

437
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.279
The day after that they went to
seventy five. I'm like, this

438
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:18.839
is like Jesus, this is like
w SP main event, a sixty to

439
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.559
fifty price point, Like what are
we doing here? You know? Yeah,

440
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.200
I think you know, let's say
they get rid of the night flights.

441
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.319
What they could easily do is they
could we had now a dinner break,

442
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.599
and they should have probably sinked the
dinner break with the end of registration.

443
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.680
But I busted like maybe the penultimate
level of the day. They could

444
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:42.119
have easily played two more levels on
the day ones, therefore potentially busting a

445
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.079
few more players. They can re
enter that kind of thing. So just

446
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.759
these small little tweaks could really make
the event better, especially, but it

447
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:53.200
depends on the price point. If
it's a sixteen hundred buying, that's very

448
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.039
different to if they do a five
K. So once they figure that out,

449
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:02.039
hopefully they look back at the structure, make the necessary tweaks, make

450
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:07.319
the necessary tweaks to the actual schedule, and kind of launch hard in twenty

451
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.400
twenty four with kind of the framework
of what their whole series and too will

452
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:18.079
be going forward. Yeah, I
will go to my grave that dinner breaks

453
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.279
need to be gone from poker tournaments. But the food options, Like I

454
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:23.920
was actually just thinking about, like
what food options did they have in the

455
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.000
room. I can't recall anyone ordering
food. You have to go get it,

456
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.119
pick it up. So yeah,
it's not like the studio where you

457
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.720
can just order your table or no. But I'm saying, like, cut

458
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.200
the dinner break and the tournament at
like eight thirty and then people go to

459
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.519
dinner. So you want to do
that stuff, I don't. I mean,

460
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.799
I just feel like a dinner break
in a tournament and listen, it's

461
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.000
not just this tournament. All these
tournaments have dinner breaks. I feel like

462
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.680
it just really kind of messes things
up. One, Like, I mean,

463
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.880
an hour is like not really a
lot of time to like go to

464
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.960
some of these restaurants and like sit
down and like eat, talk with some

465
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:04.279
friends, digest your food, et
cetera. It's an hour is rushed in

466
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.079
a lot of places, right,
It's just how it is. Also,

467
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:12.079
like I mean, I just I
don't know, I personally don't care for

468
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.440
a dinner break because and I know
this is a personal selfish thing, but

469
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:18.599
when I eat a lot during a
poker tournament, you know, you kind

470
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.279
of get that sluggishness, and I
don't really want to come back to a

471
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.799
table trying to play the last couple
hours of a day and be feeling a

472
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.799
little sluggish because I just had a
meal, like I'd rather everyone because a

473
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.559
lot of people will tell you,
myself included, that when you play a

474
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.160
poker tournament, you get to the
bagging portion. You know, you go

475
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.680
home and it takes some time to
unwind because it's exciting to bag. You

476
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.240
have adrenaline. You got a kind
of unwind. Well, if we end

477
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.400
a tournament at eight thirty, you
know, for that day, yeah,

478
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.480
Tim and I go to dinner.
That's my kind of unwinding, you know,

479
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.319
it's like you can have some drinks, whatever, you can hang out

480
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:56.440
there for a little bit, you
know, maybe you spend a little bit

481
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.720
more money at the restaurant, et
cetera. Like I feel like that's a

482
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:04.720
better way to structure these things than
forcing in a dinner break, which I

483
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.839
think is just I don't know,
I just don't. I don't think that

484
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:12.960
a dinner break necessarily works for today's
poker rule. I mean, I just

485
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.240
don't, just me, but could
be a personal thing, who knows.

486
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.480
And then my last comment is just
the resorts world these chips. They have

487
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.279
to take those chips and crush them
and get new chips because the colors did

488
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.240
not work. Just to me,
it was only the colors of a couple

489
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:30.720
of denominations. They just got to
First of all, the part of the

490
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:36.759
problem is that all the chips had
the same color flag, the exact same

491
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:40.920
purple flag, which if you're color
blind or slightly colorblind, that doesn't help.

492
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.319
And I heard several players, at
least five or six of them,

493
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:49.359
say yeah, I'm slightly colorblind or
I'm colorblind, Like this isn't really you

494
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.960
know, these chips are a little
bit tricky. The one hundreds and the

495
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:57.480
five hundreds were too close. And
then I think on the higher end,

496
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.799
like the five k's or the twenty
five k is and whatever, maybe twenty

497
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:06.000
hundreds, we're also really close.
So just fix those and it'll be good

498
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.559
to go. But you know,
overall, listen, happy it's back.

499
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:16.000
I'm eagerly awaiting what they come out
with next. I thought they might announce

500
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.839
kind of the next steps for the
NAPT during during that event, yes,

501
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:23.319
but but they obviously didn't, so
we'll just have to kind of wait and

502
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:30.720
see. But I listen, I'm
I'm expecting big things in twenty twenty four

503
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:38.559
from the NAPT. I think we
see probably three to four stops. I

504
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:42.160
think you have to just push it
to a five K buy in, like

505
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.559
I think it can work. I
certainly think it could work. Five K

506
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.119
buy ins, two or three million
dollar guarantee for the main event, Like,

507
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:52.519
I think that's just amazing. I
know it prices out my buddy Tim,

508
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:53.880
maybe even prices out me a little
bit, but hey, I was

509
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:59.400
I was already prised out as sixteen
fifty. Let's just be honest. But

510
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:04.799
all yeah, but all in all, like, yeah, I'm happy to

511
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:07.320
have it back and if if it
if it, you know, in my

512
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:13.159
perfolked world, if it does become
the North American version of the EPT,

513
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.400
then I think it's a win for
poker, which is which is a very

514
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.639
good thing. So yeah, that's
what I'm expecting from this whole thing.

515
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.599
I don't really know where they're going
to go, you know, I would

516
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:31.079
probably probably Pennsylvania is would be my
next guest. We go Pennsylvania. We

517
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:38.800
have obviously Ontario, New Jersey,
is it in uh, what's what's what

518
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:44.360
is it? Michigan? Yeah,
so I guess. I mean the light

519
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:49.920
up answer is obviously those four locations. I'm just not sure if Pennsylvania or

520
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:55.320
Michigan can support one stop. Well, I definitely think Pennsylvania can. Pennsylvania's

521
00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.400
big if you have a casino wise
like location, like I don't really know

522
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.760
that. Yeah, I feel like
they'll figure it out. I feel like

523
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.119
you can figure it out there and
if you depending on where you positioned it,

524
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.119
which my guess would be, you
do more so the Philly area versus

525
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.719
anywhere else in the state. I
mean, Pennsylvania is a huge state,

526
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.199
but you do the Philly area,
you're going to be drawn from. You

527
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:20.039
know, New York City, New
Jersey, like you know, the Baltimore

528
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.199
area. I think people will travel
for that sort of stuff. Philadelphia is

529
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.239
a you know, it's a tough
city, but it's a good city,

530
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.000
so you know, I think people
would wouldn't mind checking out Philadelphia, you

531
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:34.719
know, running up the stairs to
the Rocky Statue, you know that sort

532
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.239
of stuff. I think Michigan is
probably a little bit harder. I think

533
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.920
New Jersey works, you know,
it's in that same sort of region.

534
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.960
New Jersey does have Atlantic City.
Atlantic City has worked in the past for

535
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.679
poker, and now you inject poker
stars into that. I think it can

536
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.840
work there. Michigan would be a
tricky one for me, but hey,

537
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.760
some of those MSPT events and those
other Midwest events that do things in Michigan,

538
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:58.599
I mean they blow doors, so
I mean maybe it can work there

539
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.840
too. And then for like I
guess other areas. I mean you mentioned

540
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.519
Canada. Canada is a good one
that's in North America, so why not

541
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:10.480
go there? Of course? And
then I feel like Florida, I feel

542
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:15.840
like Seminoles in play. I mean
Texas we potentially, yeah, yeah,

543
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:22.239
Texas. I just don't know because
of how Texas does poker where it's like

544
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.360
the be a member to like,
I just don't know how that works with

545
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:29.280
Poker Stars. I mean, Poker
Stars spent a lot of time I went

546
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.840
on their road trip throughout California,
tagged along as a media person, you

547
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.480
know, when they were trying to
really push the online poker initiative out within

548
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.679
California. So like, do they
go back to a property out there?

549
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.800
You know? Is that something?
So who knows? I mean, we'll

550
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.039
see, but I would say Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania are all in

551
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:51.800
play, Canada is in play,
and then probably Seminole. I feel like

552
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.079
they have a relationship with Seminole to
some extent, so maybe they go there.

553
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.920
I don't know. I mean,
if anyone can run what I want

554
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.480
is to be a five, it's
Seminal, right, I mean that's what

555
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:05.760
it is. And then I think
the resorts World one can just continue to

556
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.400
work. So yeah, so yeah, I mean I would even say,

557
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:16.079
like next year maybe, I mean, it obviously works with Poker Stars to

558
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:21.719
pair it with the F one stuff
if the F one stuff continues, right,

559
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.920
So, I mean supposedly F one
signed a ten year contract to be

560
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.199
here, in Las Vegas or are
you just going to continue to pair it

561
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:34.639
with that? Okay? I also
think now that what's happening in December here

562
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.639
in Las Vegas, where it's like
a mini WSP, even though the WSP

563
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.880
doesn't have anything running here, like
it's everywhere, seems to be running tours,

564
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.880
So maybe you try and finagle an
event within that window as well.

565
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:51.880
So yeah, there's options and I'm
happy it's back, is my ultimate takeaway

566
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:59.639
from it all. Let's move on
WSP Euro Up ten three and fifty dollars

567
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.199
main event event. They had a
new name for this one, I feel

568
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:09.400
it, so they called it the
main event European Championship. I mean,

569
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.519
I guess that's a way to distinguish
it from the main event, the main

570
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.239
event that we missed, the europe
Main Event. It's already been like separated.

571
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.199
I'm I'm with you, okay,
I'm fully with you. Okay,

572
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:27.360
I'm just telling you what it is. Record setting field though eight hundred and

573
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:32.400
seventeen entries. It beat the previous
record which was set last year that had

574
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:38.599
seven hundred and sixty three entries.
So three years of continuous record breaking did

575
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:43.599
it change the It is re entry
now, so you know, it's a

576
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.400
little bit different. That said,
I, you know, I don't totally

577
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.320
disagree with that, although I always
liked when it was a freeze out,

578
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:52.800
you know, but you know,
it is what it is. That's kind

579
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.440
of poker these days. I'm not
a big deal, but you know,

580
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.039
King's Casino over in roswit Off is
always kind of does really well for this.

581
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:05.559
So eight hundred and seventeen entries more
than seven point seven million euros in

582
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:08.000
the prizeable. Top one hundred and
twenty three finishers were in the money.

583
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:13.639
The winner, taking home one point
five million euros, was a twenty six

584
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:20.880
year old former basketball player out of
Austria, Max Nuogobauer. He defeats Taiwanese

585
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:24.800
vlogger Eric Sai heads up the final
hand. I don't know if you saw

586
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.880
it, Tim, but it was
I read it. I didn't watch it

587
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.360
lot. It was a doozy.
It was a It's one of those where

588
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:36.440
you can read it but you don't
get the effect of actually seeing it happen.

589
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:44.079
So the final hand, it's uh
Nugobauer versus h Si heads up.

590
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:47.679
Sai is a shorter stack. Binds
are three hundred thousand, six hundred thousand.

591
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.000
SI raises on the button to one
point two million, so a min

592
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:57.079
raise. He gets called it comes
Queen eight seven two diamonds, Queen of

593
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:01.760
diamonds, eight of diamonds, seven
of hearts. Nuogobar checks, Si bets

594
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.360
one million. Nugobar makes the call. I mean I can say the hands

595
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.400
because you know it's on the stream, you see it. Nugo Bar has

596
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.320
jack eight, no diamond he has, so he has second pair on the

597
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:20.199
flop, and SI has jack nine
of diamonds, so flops pretty well for

598
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.480
him, although he doesn't directly connect
with a pair just yet. So it

599
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:28.199
goes check call on the flop from
Nugo Bauer check calling a million from CI

600
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.440
turns to the ace of spades.
Nugobauer checks. Si bets six point three

601
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.199
million, and this is an over
bet because he bets six point three million

602
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.159
into five million. Nugobaarer makes the
call four of spades on the river,

603
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:45.639
so Cy whiffs He's got that combo
draw just completely bricks out. Nugo Bauer

604
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.440
checks the river and side decides,
you know what, I'm gonna try and

605
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.639
go for this one. I'm all
in sixteen million. Nugobar tanks for quite

606
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:59.239
a bit. Eventually he finds the
call with just his pair of aids,

607
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:05.840
which on this board of Queen eight
seven Ace four his third pair. So

608
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.159
good for the Austrian finding this call
here cy of course, just as the

609
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:15.320
old jack Hi missed diamonds, missed
straight and yeah, Max Dugerbauer is the

610
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.159
champ, winning one point five million
euros. It was an incredible call.

611
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:24.000
It was a fun final table overall. I really thought Michael Rocco was gonna

612
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.519
win it. He uh, he
played very well at the final table and

613
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:31.920
then had a massive blow up where
he four it all in with ACE nine

614
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:36.840
off and I think he ran into
aces and that was pretty much the end

615
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.639
of the line for Michael Rocco,
and he knew it was gonna As you

616
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:46.159
said in that group chat, you
know, Rocco blows up. But no,

617
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:52.000
it was a massive punt. You
know that was an insane punt five

618
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.840
handed. Is it that much of
a come on? Yes? I mean

619
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.679
I don't know. It feels like
prey standard Nada. He's watching all these

620
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.400
high rollers. No, you do
it. You probably want to do that

621
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:10.559
with like ACE four suited ACE five
suited something like that, And like some

622
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:16.360
of the thinking there is if you're
getting three bet by, So if you're

623
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.760
Roco and you have ACE nine off, okay, and you four bet Jam.

624
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.320
If the guy three bet you with
ACE four, he's now folding the

625
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:28.800
ACE four. If you have the
ACE four and the guy three bets you

626
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:30.880
with the ACE nine off, you
can four bet jam and fold out some

627
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.280
better hands. You can fold out
like an A seven suited in a eight

628
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.360
suited, a nine suited, stuff
like that, right, probably even with

629
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.159
the ICM that was happening at the
time, Like you can probably fold out

630
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:43.159
some ACE chins, maybe ACE jack
off stuff like that. So you can

631
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.440
fold out some some possible better hands. But there's better hands that you can

632
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.719
fold out more of them if you
have the ACE four. At least this

633
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:52.239
is my thinking of some of this. I mean, I just don't think

634
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:58.320
Rocco needed to really do this year. Also from watching the Final Table,

635
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:04.480
I watched a bit of it,
and I don't think anyone was really getting

636
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.519
too out of line. So I
just don't think Rocco needed to take it

637
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:10.880
take that spot, you know,
like even if he thought maybe this person's

638
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.159
getting out of lineable Rocco was like
very much in the driver's seat for a

639
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:19.000
lot of this, like you know, and he I mean he I think

640
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.599
he took out the person in sixth
place. He was a chip leyder five

641
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.159
handed and then one one orbit he's
got he's out, I mean, you

642
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.599
know, and he knew it.
Afterwards they asked him in the interview and

643
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:29.719
he was like, it was a
massive fucking punt. Well, what do

644
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:30.800
you want me to say? You
just don't fucking do that, like he

645
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.360
was. He was so over it. Not happy at all, right now,

646
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.880
yeah, not happy at all.
That's how you fucking punt it off.

647
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.199
Everybody, if you want to know
how to fucking punk it off,

648
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.559
let's how you do it. Yeah, that was a great interview, very

649
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:47.599
entertaining. Well yeah, I mean
listen, he was honest about it,

650
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.079
and you know, you gotta love
it. So yeah. Defending main event

651
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:58.599
champion Omar l Jack won the five
fifty pot limit Omaha five and fifty yuro

652
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.840
potlam and Omaha for just under sixty
six thousand euros. That event had seven

653
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:08.400
hundred and nineteen entries. Daniel Divores
won the twenty five k GG Millions eighty

654
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:15.719
nine entries there six hundred thousand euros
for the win. Santoche Servanna won the

655
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:21.239
fifty K diamond high Roller for six
hundred and fifty thousand euros and then immediately

656
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:25.440
got on a plane to come film
high Sax Poker. So yeah, so

657
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.920
Santosh is taking that six hundred and
fifty thousand euros that he won and putting

658
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.719
it to good work. This week
at the filming of season, I don't

659
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:37.599
want to give me no spoilers.
The only spoiler is that Santosh is on

660
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.920
it, and everything that we've heard
is that the freaking season is going to

661
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.559
be out of this world. So
I can't wait. Let's go. It's

662
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:50.000
gonna be a lot of fun there. So that's all that's been still filming

663
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.039
today. I don't even know if
film a week basically yeah, last day

664
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:59.039
today. Yeah. So that wraps
up another edition of doubissip Europe as for

665
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:04.119
the Wscipe. Now now we look
forward to December for ws AP Paradise that's

666
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.679
taking place down at the Atlantis in
the Bahamas. I have no idea what

667
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:12.599
to think about Dibisipy Paradise, to
be honest, Like, on one side,

668
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.000
I think it's gonna be good because
it's the World Series of Poker.

669
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:21.079
It's Bahamas in December when it's cold
at a lot of other places, you

670
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.639
know. On the other side,
I'm like, they're going head to head

671
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:28.480
with the WPT World Championship that has
a forty million dollar guarantee on their prize

672
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.119
bool, So I'm like, hmm, okay, I kind of flip flop,

673
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.679
you know, back and forth there. But then I'm like, well,

674
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.599
WSIP Paradise is certainly better for Canadians
and a lot of Europeans because the

675
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:43.760
tax situation in the US, and
then there's that. But then i also

676
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.840
see some of this marketing from the
DOUBSIP and I'm like, this feels like

677
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:50.320
they're really worried. So I'm kind
I'm kind of like all over the place

678
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.400
that said, I will happily sit
on the sidelines and watch it happen because

679
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:57.880
you know, ultimately, I think
more poker is better and it's going to

680
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.599
be really interesting. As we've said
before, see these two massive series,

681
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.880
these two big brands, the great
big brands, the World Crees Poker and

682
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.920
the World Poker two go head to
head in December, and you know,

683
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:12.320
see if there's there could be two
winners, there could be two losers,

684
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.000
there could be one winner one loser. I don't really know how it's all

685
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.679
gonna shake out, but of course
once it happens, we'll be talking about

686
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:25.039
it here on the podcast. WPT
speaking of just wrapped up their event down

687
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:31.119
in Jacksonville over at Best Bet Jacksonville. The WPT Best Bet Scramble, three

688
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:37.079
hundred and sixty five entries in this
one prize pool topped one point six million

689
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.320
dollars. Does that number feel low
to you? We'd have to look this

690
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:44.639
up. I feel like that that
usually gets like five hundred in that one.

691
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.679
Who knows you can look that up. As I ramble about these winners

692
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.639
here, forty six players in the
money. Frederick Normand won it all three

693
00:46:52.679 --> 00:47:00.880
hundred and fifty one thousand dollars in
his pocket for becoming the latest World Poker

694
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:05.639
Tour Champion. Tom Wheaton Faded Spade. Tom Wheaton, friend of the podcast,

695
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:07.880
Friend of Ours, finished in eleventh
place. Ben Wang, who's I

696
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:14.360
don't know mister WPT these Days finished
in twenty second place. Carlos Chada thirty

697
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:19.920
fourth, Andrew Nimi, a WPT
ambassador, finished in thirty sixth place,

698
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:24.360
Stan Jablonski thirty ninth, and Jerry
Wong finished in forty fourth. What did

699
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.960
it get for the last year's best
bet? Well, it's had a couple

700
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.000
of years off. Last time it
was ran with season eighteen that was basically

701
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.960
twenty nineteen. I don't no ways
anymore. I covered this one. Actually

702
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.000
three hundred and forty nine entrants,
one point six million in the prize,

703
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:44.360
bool, so kind of about what
I got. A year before that had

704
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:49.320
three fifty six that was won by
Tony Tran, and then year before that

705
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.920
was three twenty three. So there, I don't I don't know why I

706
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.920
felt like that got five hundred.
I mean, that's my mistake of course.

707
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.840
So well, it's a good ye
Jacksonville place, I think for poker,

708
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:05.719
because it's like you think Jacksonville,
you think Florida, but it's like

709
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:08.119
it's not anywhere near like Seminole,
for example. No, it might as

710
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.920
well have just be in another country
because Jacksonville's way up you know, Seminole

711
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.519
and that that big stuff that usually
happens is way down way down south.

712
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:21.519
So nonetheless, three and sixty five
entries, it's good. Listen, I

713
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:29.480
Am team WPT because whenever they come
and have a tournament, I like it.

714
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.119
My criticism is that they just don't
have that many tournaments anymore. To

715
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.679
me, Yeah, you know,
I feel like everything is WPT prime in

716
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:42.159
another country, Like I want,
I want twenty events in the States every

717
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.360
month, twice a month, whatever, Like, let's go. I'm looking

718
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:50.760
at the schedule. So season twenty
print the hats tim make WPT grading.

719
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.559
You're just kidding. Season twenty one, which is this season. I know

720
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:57.320
they don't do seasons, I don't
think anymore, but I like seasons.

721
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.960
No, they do seasons. I
think they're still for the year. The

722
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:04.400
dates change, there's still seasons.
But yeah, so eight events this year.

723
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.599
Of those eight events, we have
that one in Australia, we go

724
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:13.239
back to last season, we have
a total of ten events, so two

725
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:17.199
more one in Australia as well year
before that. Obviously, Also it's also

726
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:22.119
when they are because if like three
or four of them are like bunched into

727
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.960
like one week. If we go
back to season seventeen, that's the first

728
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:31.079
full year before before COVID twenty events, twenty main tour stops, including obviously

729
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:37.679
events in Russia, and Canada.
I think twenty is the number. I

730
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:42.599
think twenty is the number because you
don't really want to attack June in July

731
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:44.880
and you know, maybe you do, maybe you don't, you know whatever.

732
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.280
But there's ten months outside of that. Two a month, yeah,

733
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.599
you know, I think you could
probably do. I probably do one a

734
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.679
month in the States, one a
month elsewhere in the world, you know,

735
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.760
because there's not a lot of crossover, Like I don't think people a

736
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.599
lot of people are traveling from like
WPT Best Bet Jacksonville to go to WPT

737
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:07.519
Vienna like that. That crossover is
not that big. But as the World

738
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.159
Poker Tour, I certainly think that
it benefits you to be global and be

739
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:15.960
elsewhere with your events. So can
you guess the most events held in a

740
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:22.239
single season on the WPT excluding the
weird COVID multi year season, the main

741
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:24.159
tour, just main tour, just
main tour. Wasn't there one when it

742
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:30.679
was like thirty two or something twenty
four? Season eleven? I remember that

743
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.559
season that felt like way too many. Lot. They had a couple of

744
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:39.519
new international events, you know,
merit cypers Plastic, Copenhagen, Mazagon whatever

745
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:44.719
that is, Frog, a lot
of the international stops Venice, Barcelona,

746
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.960
a couple another Canada stop, So
that was their biggest year that I feel

747
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:54.599
like. I feel like the wheelhouse
is eighteen to twenty events. You know.

748
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:58.360
If you do twenty, maybe it's
like twelve here in the States,

749
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:01.719
eight international, if you do eighteen, maybe it's twelve and six, you

750
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:06.519
know, something like that. I
feel like, I feel like that's that's

751
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:08.440
the World Poker Tour that I want. I don't you know that that's just

752
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:12.599
a selfish thing, you know,
but that's that's what it is. I

753
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.559
mean, that's just what I like. So so yeah, I just I

754
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:21.880
feel like I see WPT Prime way
more and I'm like, I'm not,

755
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:23.760
you know, this is the World
Poker Tour, like you know, like,

756
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.440
but that's also going back to the
NAP. That's why I think there's

757
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.760
an opening there for that type of
tour, you know, because yeah,

758
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:37.079
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yeah, all right, PGT leaderboard stuff

775
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:51.559
because you know, as as mentioned, some of these events ABISP Europe did

776
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:55.599
count. So Tim, what's the
update. Starting with the winner of the

777
00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.480
European Championship. He now moves to
Max now moving to nineteenth place twelve hundred

778
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:06.559
and fifty PGT points. Tried to
find him on Twitter, tried to find

779
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:09.800
him on Instagram, doesn't exist,
but I, with the help of our

780
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:14.280
friends of poconws, I got in
contact with him, So hopefully he'll be

781
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.480
you know, maybe come out for
PGT Last Chance, get some extra points

782
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:22.679
and then play the PGT Championship.
Eric Side runner up to Max. He

783
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:28.000
moves up to forty second place with
nine hundred and seventeen points. He cashed

784
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:31.840
in the twenty five k high roller
at the WSP earlier this year, so

785
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:36.800
he's right on the fringe. Not
sure we'll see him, but if he

786
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:39.960
does make a trip, he's pretty
close. A couple guys at cashing some

787
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:45.199
of the high roller events orpen He
moves up to sixty seventh place six hundred

788
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.800
and seventy points. I bet we
see him, not just at WSP Paradise

789
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:55.159
but Last Chance. Michael Rocco,
who've discussed he's had I think five cashes

790
00:53:55.199 --> 00:54:00.000
this season. He's up to sixty
eighth with six hundred and sixty nine points.

791
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:06.000
Santos Savannah three Cash's eighty first place. He is in Vegas right now,

792
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:08.760
as we've mentioned, so hopefully we
kind of handball him some of that

793
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:14.480
information about what's coming up. And
then Daniel Devores one of the bigger movers

794
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:19.639
with his win and another final table. He's up to eighty second place with

795
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.519
five hundred and thirty seven points,
so they're the biggest movers. Steven Schidwick

796
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:27.280
he cashed in the main event,
so he crept a little closer to Chris

797
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.679
Brewer who's in third on the leaderboard. But coming up we have four Aria

798
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:37.000
high rollers next week, WSP Paradise, which we've mentioned, and PGT Last

799
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:40.760
Chance starting on January second. Yeah, I think a lot of those guys

800
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:45.039
that you talked about, probably all
of them will be at DIBSIPI Paradise.

801
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:49.599
I would just guess that if you're
playing Dibisipy Europe, you're probably inclined to

802
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:54.480
go to Dabisity Paradise. I think
somebody like Orpncassa, Chicaglu, Santos Savanna

803
00:54:54.840 --> 00:55:00.079
and Daniel Devores probably with the tax
situation of having to play in the US

804
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:05.480
or more inclined to go down to
Paradise, So probably see them down there.

805
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:10.320
I would guess the Douvaspy year winner
Max Nugerbauer is gonna go down to

806
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.199
Paradise. I mean that would be
my guess, right, you know,

807
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:15.360
yeah, yeah, and then Eric
say, you know, same sort of

808
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:20.320
thing, probably gonna go down to
Dobaspy Paradise. So we'll see how those

809
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.639
go. But and if they can, you know, get some points from

810
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:28.199
those events that qualify as part of
the Douvaspy Paradise schedule and then move on

811
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:32.760
into that top forty as we close
out the season on the PGT. All

812
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:37.800
right, I guess we're gonna rant
vent f one. What are your thoughts?

813
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.280
So it's it's weird I've heard.
I don't know if this is just

814
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:46.679
like some random gripes, but there's
been some stuff out there on social media

815
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:52.599
that there's thoughts of maybe not continuing
with the event for like the full ten

816
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.840
year contract or whatever they decided.
I mean, the whole thing seems like

817
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.239
an absolute disaster to me. I
mean, they spent how how how many

818
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:05.039
months have they been like building the
stuff that it's it's like actually affected traffic

819
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.960
from its may Yeah, like all
during the summer, it was a disaster

820
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:13.519
trying to get to the WSP like
it was a mess. It's a mess

821
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:19.159
now from what I've heard. I
read some stuff about like the breakdown of

822
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.480
it. I mean, it's not
just everything that they've done. It's not

823
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:23.519
just going to disappear in a week. I mean it's gonna take like several

824
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:28.199
weeks if not months, to like
get everything back to normal. But I've

825
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:34.960
also heard that I want to say, it was like the commissioner of like

826
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.280
the transportation here in Vegas or something. I don't know, but there was

827
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:42.719
somebody that was quoted that's obviously superior, senior and like in the know and

828
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:46.360
whatever is that. I think there's
like an Amazon convention that happens right after

829
00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:50.960
this F one, So because of
that, I don't know if it's exactly

830
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:52.840
Amazon, but there's basically what he
was saying is that there's a big convention

831
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:58.000
that happens right after F one,
and because of that, they're basically going

832
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:01.000
to leave stuff up and not start
dismanding because they don't want to like mess

833
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:05.440
up the convention because it's so big. So that just delays things for like

834
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:07.119
a week or two, right and
then like some of the stuff they're gonna

835
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:10.800
leave up because it doesn't make sense
to like constantly build things up every single

836
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:13.880
year, so they're gonna leave some
stuff up. So I don't know,

837
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:16.320
it seems like a mess. I
mean, the whole thing seems like a

838
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:22.320
disaster. I guess we won't fully
know the effect of it all until next

839
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:25.679
year, right like until we see
what happened. Like next year, are

840
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:30.320
they gonna need to start in June
to prep for November again? Because that

841
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:32.840
sounds like something I don't want anything
to be apart. What I've heard about

842
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:37.440
the road is like the paving is
kind of like a wan every ten years

843
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.679
kind of thing. So they might
be I've heard the roads are as smooth

844
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:43.760
as silk. Oh they're nice.
I've been driving on them. Yeah,

845
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.159
so there's like minor repairs if needed, but so that side should be fine.

846
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:51.639
Yeah, taking everything down, all
the grand stands, all the lighting,

847
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:54.000
that's going to be hell. That
might not happen till you say,

848
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:58.239
there's an Amazon conference. But let's
not forget. We're gonna hit Christmas.

849
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.960
After Christmas, we have CES,
which is possibly the biggest conference in Vegas

850
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.280
in January, So it's not gonna
it's not like January, not like Vegas

851
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.679
ever gets quiet. It's always going
to be busy, so hopefully they get

852
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:14.000
the stuff put away. I'm you
know, I'm not going to be attending

853
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:17.920
that. I'm actually a little bit
excited to watch. I don't watch F

854
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.000
one. I don't really care about
it, but I just kind of want

855
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.719
to see the city on TV with
you know, cars racing around it.

856
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:27.719
I think will be cool. I
might last like four laps and then go

857
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.400
to bed because it's at ten pm
a Saturday night. But I'm a little

858
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:34.880
more excited to watch it on TV
than I actually thought I was going to

859
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:43.880
be so less venting more. Yeah, slightly optimistic. So I believe it's

860
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:50.639
this. Amazon Web Services is November
twenty seven through December first in Las Vegas.

861
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:55.199
Okay, I mean Amazon is massive, so I can only imagine.

862
00:58:55.320 --> 00:59:00.079
I mean, this says it's going
to be across multiple then news, so

863
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:07.000
that sounds like it's going to be
absolutely enormous. So yeah, I'm with

864
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.360
you in terms of like watching it. I'm an F one fan. I

865
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:13.519
watch a bit of the race.
Is this this season though, I will

866
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:20.239
say is that has been kind of
a letdown because Max Verstappen has the championship

867
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:22.679
locked up, he won it,
like he's already wont it. He can

868
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.440
fucking not show up for the rest
of the rest of the season. It

869
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:28.239
doesn't matter, right, he's I
mean, he's that good. He performed

870
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:32.119
that well. So that's that's one
of two things. One just general for

871
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:36.760
F one, like that's just not
a good thing when somebody locks it up

872
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:42.159
so early. But also when you're
launching a brand new race in such a

873
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:45.199
premier venue that you want to highlight
so much, being Las Vegas, like

874
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:49.760
you would want the race to really
mean something, right, So it kind

875
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:53.480
of stinks that the first time F
one is on the Las Vegas Strip for

876
00:59:53.559 --> 01:00:00.239
this this partnership between them, the
race you know, ultimately doesn't really matter

877
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:02.719
because because Max, everyone's playing for
second place, right. So yeah,

878
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:07.000
so that's like a hard sell,
which which is kind of a bit of

879
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.039
a bummer, you know for me
as like an F one fan. You

880
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:15.760
know, listen I to this day
every single time because because as you said,

881
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.679
the race starts at I think ten
or eleven o'clock night, race makes

882
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:23.800
perfect sense every single time. It
doesn't matter if it's a sporting event,

883
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:27.199
it doesn't matter if it's the World
Series of poker, whatever it is.

884
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:35.559
When I see aerial coverage of Las
Vegas at night, I get goosebumps and

885
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.719
the hair stands up in my arms. I love it so like big fight

886
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:43.280
nights in Las Vegas, boxing or
UFC whatever, Like when they show that

887
01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:47.679
overhead shot of Las Vegas, I'm
like, yes, I'm in like yes,

888
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.000
like this is this is the city
that I love. This is the

889
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.199
gambling city, like this is this
is what it's about. I freaking love

890
01:00:54.239 --> 01:01:00.840
it so so yeah, Like so
when I see F one in Las Vegas,

891
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:02.559
of course I'm gonna be like,
yes, this is awesome. Right,

892
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:07.280
It's just a bit of a bummer
that ultimately the race doesn't really matter,

893
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:12.000
and outside of that race window,
it's been a disaster for everyone local.

894
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:15.800
It just has been like I don't
I don't know how like Brent Hanks

895
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.519
and the rest of the staff and
even the players for High Stake spoke with

896
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:23.000
this week are venturing down to the
studio to film. It seems like a

897
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:29.320
disaster today. It closes at seven. It's trip sorry, we kind of

898
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:32.639
good luck. Yeah, yeah,
because they've been playing like pretty late at

899
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:36.960
night, so yeah, I mean
that's just yeah, it's it's gonna be

900
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.280
gonna be wild. So I don't
know. We'll see if ultimately this is

901
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:45.679
something that continues with Las Vegas.
But you know, as as all the

902
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:47.719
locals have, I think we all
have kind of our concerns with it all.

903
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.000
And you know, the idea at
the start, I think everyone was

904
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.679
like, yo, yes, let's
go F one in Vegas. Great.

905
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:00.760
Now that we see it all and
it's to brutality, we see the execution,

906
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.320
we're kind of like, yeah,
we could do without this, you

907
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:08.280
know, can we could do without
this somehow? Maybe once every three years,

908
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.239
we'll take it once every three years. Can we just extend the contract

909
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:14.519
that way? I don't. I
don't know. I don't. I don't

910
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.840
know if I I don't know if
I wanted it at all, So who

911
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:22.039
knows. I would. I would
be more inclined as an F one fan

912
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:25.480
to put up with it if it
like kicked off the F one season,

913
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.960
so like it really mattered, you
know, it was you know that sort

914
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:31.480
of thing. But like now if
it's kind of at the tail end,

915
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:36.199
it obviously doesn't matter because we're Stapping
has won the championship already. It's kind

916
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.400
of like whatever to me. You
know, that's kind of a bummer.

917
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:43.960
So oh well, but hey,
I mean, we'll see how it goes.

918
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:47.239
That's all we got, I think, right, give away tomorrow,

919
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:53.639
Remember give away tomorrow. Tim's Twitter
account slash x account, that's Tim Underscore

920
01:02:53.760 --> 01:03:00.400
Underscore Duckworth around noon, Las Vegas
time. One thing that I do want

921
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:05.079
to talk about on probably the next
episode. I think we got to get

922
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.800
into the Game of Gold. Okay, I think we I mean, it's

923
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:14.039
everyone seems to be talking about it. I have lots of thoughts. I've

924
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:17.480
watched all three episodes so far.
Episode four will be coming tomorrow. If

925
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:20.519
you don't know what the heck we're
talking about, you've been living under a

926
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:27.639
rock. It's it's GG Poker's new
I guess new take on pograph. They're

927
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.280
dark, that they've taken poker afh. They're dark, and they've now made

928
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:37.920
a Game of Gold, which is
supposed to be part poker, part reality

929
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:43.440
show, kind of similar to you
know, some of these competition reality shows

930
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:46.719
Survivor, The Amazing Race, Big
Brother, like that sort of stuff.

931
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:51.880
Right. It airs on the GG
poker YouTube channel every Monday, Wednesday,

932
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:57.559
and Friday. So this week or
kicked off last week on Friday, and

933
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.039
then they've had three episodes total the
next before that, so it gets aired

934
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.880
tomorrow, so you guys can check
it out on the gg Poker channel.

935
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:08.440
Daniel Legrand who's involved, Jason Coon's
involved, Josh are is involved, Maria

936
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.800
ho is involved. That won't get
into many more specifics than that, but

937
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.320
if you guys want to go check
it out, then you can do so.

938
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:16.679
And next time Tim and I will
get into it on kind of what

939
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:19.800
we've seen so far. Maybe we'll
do like I don't know, every four

940
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:23.159
episodes or so, we'll kind of
talk about it and see, you know,

941
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:27.119
see where the season's at or whatnot, and go from there. So

942
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:30.559
it's interesting to say the least,
and I think I think a lot of

943
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:35.039
people will find it interesting and ultimately
enjoy it. So go check it out

944
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:40.599
if you haven't all ready. Of
course, we have No Gamble in the

945
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:45.800
Future and High Stakes Poker on Poker
Go. New season of No Gamble in

946
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:49.800
the Future Season four debuts in the
coming week, so stay tuned to Poker

947
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:55.519
Go for that, and yeah,
let's go see you guys later. Get

948
01:04:55.559 --> 01:05:01.320
nothing else to say. Peace,
Peace, The Churne expressed

