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is the only live show on oceelli
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things happened to get the week started
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that along with what's going on in
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really up to me. It's actually
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the listener. What is the date? It is my daughter's birthday, June

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fourteenth, okay, twenty twenty four, allegedly according to that thing we call

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a calendar, this the O'Kelly effect. Yes, indeed, and it's a

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way it is. And like I
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give you a couple of health updates
because we have some ailing people in the

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JFK research community, you know,
sadly, and I'm not going to go

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into any great details here, but
uh, Larry Hancock will be unavailable for

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a little while. He is going
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has not been good lately, and
I wasn't sharing that for a but now

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he's going to be out of circulation
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one of the longest running people to
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years. And I'm extremely proud of
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call Larry a friend. And I'm
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so you know, you pray you
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go to Larry Hancock. Also,
David Talbot apparently is in some deep trouble

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according to Jefferson morally and according to
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and he's stating that he's lost his
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he was a highly paid published author. But not going to comment on David

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Talbot, just informing you of the
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daughter and maybe we'll get into who
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that good stuff later in the show, along with lots and lots of headlines,

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stupid thoughts, and other possibilities.
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Live broadcast that you can be heard
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active. Pete, Pete, how
you doing this week? I'm doing pretty

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good, Chuck, just trying to
catch up. It's been another busy week

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and they tell you summertime gets going
and you forget how busy you were the

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summer before. When it comes to
construction and what everybody starts jumping on here.

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It's been kind of a kind of
a chi well well, well yeah,

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it's been a Chinese fire drill,
Tom, I just said, no

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other way to describe it, Chinese
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not PC to use that term anymore, but that used to be a thing

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that we saw. Maybe you could
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used to see this occasionally on the
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explanation for why it would happen except
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in an age before social media,
would just do crap to draw attention to

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themselves. But if you saw people
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a red light, run around in
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before the light turned green, and
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a Chinese fire drill. But there's
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Well yeah, you got it right
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history that I know of it,
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the same thing. Okay, I
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ago when in China when you know, they actually had fires and the way

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their volunteer fire system was everybody had
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of place, the whole thing went
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think about the people at the stop
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right place right time, they get
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it just throws back on I guess
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witnessed a fire in China where the
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know, cause back then it was
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not in the right place, the
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I guess remember the old Shasta root
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the guy on the street, buys
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it blows the foam off the top
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thing you know, you've got a
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beer foam in each other's face.
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it. Let's fucking find it.
I'm sorry. That may be one of

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those things that you know, we
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only know Shasta as like being the
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and they put skinny women on TV
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and I would see it at discount
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in the early eighties, late seventies, And that's what I know Shasta from.

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general trope about the Keystone Cops,
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these cops are running around and not
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a lot of running around. And
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that in the modern era. But
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on out there. You know.
I look at JP's leads on the rundown

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and you know the first thing,
a mysterious hole on Mars may be a

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gateway to ancient life and the future
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is coming from some crazy, crazy
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friends, this is on Popular Mechanics
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open up your rundown and it looks
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the upcoming presidential debate, get ready
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Lived but they're not gonna have an
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almost seems like somebody how did they
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I really want to know what the
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I mean, what did they have
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for something where he's only going to
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mean, that's that's weird. Anyway, maybe we'll talk about that some more,

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and some more headlines from the rundowns, some other crazy crap that's actually

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happening out there. I got a
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you. Also, I'm editing the
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sam I too. Lett and I
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been a slow, painful process for
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this week, so between the fact
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be able to make it and a
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nasty series of migraine headaches and then
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week, so I definitely canceled Tuesday. Wednesday got canceled for me, and

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Thursday I was still just trying to
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tonight's show, but I feel up
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and quite frankly, I had to
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the house at the same time.
It's not like I was just sitting around

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here saying what was me? I
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I know other people have written to
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I work a job, you know, and I'm like, look, I

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get that. I dedicate my life
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that go on too. I've got
a son who's going to turn ten this

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month, and trying to, you
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the missus and six little doggies.
I got a handsful sometimes, so between

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Matt and and just really generally battling
migraines and a seizure and a few other

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things. I got nothing done this
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of a couple of things that are
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point. But I mean I just
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anybody who has my cell phone number
that's been cut off, certain bills have

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bounced, and I've had to make
choices about expenses. So the cell phone

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is cut at the moment, and
we've been able to keep the phone lines

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here. But look, I got
to make decisions, all right, And

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sometimes if there's just enough money to
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might choose to feed the three of
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you know, paying for something that
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a necessity at the moment. So
I don't have a cell phone anymore.

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So those are you guys that had
a cell phone number. No good.

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But you can still get in contact
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You know, the text messages by
the way, that was connected to my

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cell phone, those are gone to
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emails and all that standard ways that
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But yeah, I don't have a
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had a bad week health wise.
So that's what went on all this week.

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But let's get to what went on
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Right, we could talk about what's
happening in Cuba, BPTE. I mean,

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you told me you really hadn't paid
much attention to news, But you

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did pay attention to that a little
bit, didn't you. Yeah, it's

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my understanding. There's a group of
shit Russian ships and it also includes a

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submarine that took a you know,
a pleasure cruise to Cuba. A pleasure

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cruise. Okay, Well, my
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sort of maneuvers there, right,
and the US and Russian military assets are

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encouraging the media to cover the fact
that they have this stuff in the Caribbean.

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Matter of fact, Russian military people
were saying, go ahead, film

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things with your phone, go ahead
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they're using that opportunity to also play
parts of Putin speeches and say, hey,

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look, nuclear threat, remember the
missile crisis, because he is saying

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some stuff out there openly about how
you know, we have a large nuclear

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arsenal and you know you wouldn't want
things to get ugly. Now I almost

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have that, you know, I
wouldn't want something bad to happen to your

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nice, lovely family. There a
feeling coming off of it, but maybe

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it's just me. Well if you
think about it, now, you know,

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these guys everybody that's got the ability
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Okay, country out there that's gotten
nukes that you know, there's a

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certain minor responsibility goes with having a
button. The thing is, none of

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these guys can be you know,
billy badass or put on a tough man

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move sort of pushing the button.
I mean, what can you do other

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than move a nuke somewhere. We've
had Russian subs off our coast. Since

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Russia's had subs, yes, you
just don't hear about it. So you

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know this this try to whip up
the anti communist frenzy right now. It's

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like, hey, you know,
we just haven't seen the Russian sub come

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above the water and port in Cuba. It's been there, and it's been

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there since they have the ability to
get there. You know, this is

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just another war game. Move on
the map. Okay, I'm taking my

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battleship and I'm moving it over here, sort of pushing the What can these

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guys do? I mean, how
tough can you look? Knowing that you

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you know, got the ability or
to blow half the world off its axes.

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Yeah, so, and pay no
attention to where a lot of us

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and pay no attention to where a
lot of US nuclear assets are moving around

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because pay no attention to that.
Oh absolutely, we're used to used to

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that was a big thing. And
back during the Cold War, you know,

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these news agencies didn't have a lot
to throw out there. So when

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we decided to move missiles into parts
of West Germany, the Russians and the

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East Germans went ballistic and there was
all these protests, no dukes of I

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mean, we had people protests that
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to seven there for a while,
and this was back during the time that

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deb Route marine barricks got blown up
in Lebanon, So you know, stuff

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was going on around the world.
But really, what can these guys do

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other than move a piece of armor
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just been a constant dance ever since
we started the Cold War. So what

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can Putin do now other you know, to flex his muscles when you can't

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push the button, because you know, if you push the button, it's

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just you know, mutual extermination.
What are you gonna do what can you

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do well? Until somebody does try
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we don't even know that for certain. I mean, I know the concept

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of mutually destroyed, destructive detret and
all that. I mean, I watched

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what's his name, you know,
Kennedy's secretary of defense there, Matt McNamara.

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I watched him give a lecture on
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in what was it, two thousand
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was at NYU, And you know, I tried to ask him a question

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about the assassination but got shut down. But the but the thing was,

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it's really weird, you know,
this idea of the reason why the button

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doesn't get pushed, The reason why
nobody uses this stuff is because it would

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set off a chain reaction. Is
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want to go that far if it
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by the way, do you think
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what happened? I mean, do
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I mean, there's a lot of
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think it's a very dangerous thing.
I have a piece though that, I

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want to play a little audio from
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long, but we ain't going to
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show you the general setup here that
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though this actually comes from I think
Italy. Anyway, Let's take a listen

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to how this reporter describes, okay, and the headline is Russian nuclear submarine

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docs in Cuba Putin's warning to the
West question mark right. Anyway, there's

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weird stuff going on in Italy anyhow, and it's funny to see how they

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decide report on it, especially considering
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the Italian Parliament. There is weird
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of political spheres of influence. And
you throw this into the mix and what's

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actually happening in South Korea and everything
else, one does wonder what the great

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ignition point is going to be.
Oh and by the way, that whole

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thing that's happening in you know,
the Israeli Palestinian combat is still happening.

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But anyway, let's just take a
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media, with the accident and all, but it's in English now. Speaking

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of Russia, Moscow has made a
power move on the other side of the

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world. Yesterday, some Russian ships
arrived in Cuba, Russian warships. There

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was one guided missile frigate, the
Admiral Gorshkov. It's the leadship of an

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entire class of frigates armed with caliber
cruise missiles, zirkon hypersonic missiles, and

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on its anti ship missiles. It
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a tug boat and a fuel ship. So a Russian frigate armed to the

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teeth docked in Cuba, a country
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eight. You heard that right,
nineteen fifty eight, sixty six years.

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It is the longest trade embargo in
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that Cuba and the US aren't on
good terms. And now a Russian ship

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has docked in Havana. It's a
signal from Putin that Russia can waltz into

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America's backyard any time it wants to. And the frigate wasn't even the real

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message. Putin's big warning cruised in
a little later half submerged, Cuban and

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Russian naval flags fluttering in the wind, and a contingent of soldiers on the

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deck. It was a Russian nuclear
powered submarine. The Kazan Cuba greeted the

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vessel with a cannon salute. The
residents of Havana had lined up to get

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a glimpse of the ships, especially
the submarine. I saw it a submarine,

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and I said wow, and I
took a picture. I have never

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seen a submarine in Havana in my
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I have never seen something so close, such a large ship of that magnitude.

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The Cubans were clearly impressed, but
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attention. His target is a little
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away from Cuba. That is where
Florida begins, which means that Putin has

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just sent his warships to America's doorstep. This comes weeks after an American provocation.

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The US recently gave Ukraine a green
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American weapons to strike Russian territory.
Putin said that it was an escalation,

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and now he has responded by sending
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worried. Now, I'll just I'll
leave it there, because that's the effect

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of messaging. Now, is this
the only thing that's happening. I doubt

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it. I guarantee you there's a
lot of other stuff going on that nobody's

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reporting on. But it's very easy
to get footage out of Cuba. By

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the way, I doubt that lady
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If you see the film footage,
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But anyway, it's really interesting to
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feeding the lines to this reporter,
and it's just fascinating what's going on here?

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Is anybody really paying attention to this
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She says, Oh, it's got
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know, is there a lot of
coverage on this? It doesn't look like

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it to me. Oh, I'm
sure it's got some people worried in the

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US, just like you know.
And it's probably the same white, middle

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aged liberal degree holder, white women
that's going to get all up in a

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ruffle. You got to realize they've
just gone into Cuba with these ships,

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so if something were to happen,
they would have to rely on Cuba to

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be able to maintain those ships until
such time as they could get a chain

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of procurers to get their supplies there. Okay, Now this is a country

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where one of the biggest problems people
are having is trying to find a water

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pump to fit a nineteen fifty seven
Chevy bel Air. Okay, you're looking

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at one of the most technology and
technological backward countries because of that embargo that

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they talked about. You go to
Cuba and look at what they're driving around

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in. It's all pre nineteen fifty
eight Detroit products and they're having to keep

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them going. So just think about
that. You've just run a frigate,

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a submarine, some supply ships to
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and you're worried about something, you
know, crap breaking out. I

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don't think so it ain't gonna half
under those circumstances. For Russians are not

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going to leave themselves at the mercy
of the Cuban economy to be able to

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keep those ships going at were something
to happen. So it's just a dance.

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That's all it is is a dance. And you know, meanwhile,

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what do we got going on?
Like I said, you know, Elon

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Musk is firing people over sexual harassment
lawsuits. SpaceX moving along. Oh,

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by the way, Jeff Bezos thinks
he can put what is it? How

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many people? Let's see as a
vision of colonized space with a trillion people.

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He asked Aspergs to put in a
put it to the test his idea

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about putting a trillion people in a
colonized space. Yeah, I'm all for

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it. Let Jeff Bezos go on
the first shift, and while he's up

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there, we just take over Amazon. Look, I have no problem if

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somebody wants to launch Bezos into space
and send him home. Uh, you

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know, because I think he deserves
to go home. Uh why not?

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I mean, we let et phone, let Bezos go home. Anyway,

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you know what, what are you
gonna do? This whole thing is just

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crazy anyhow, a lot of stuff
going on at the moment. I might

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take a look, you've got a
question. Yeah, I'm just I'm finishing

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up a story, well, a
synopsis of a story. All right.

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We all know that Alex Jones has
gone through his his his reformation stage.

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Let's put it. Uh, you
know, he's made the rounds and said

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that he's finally you know, said
okay, liquidate everything, get his people

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off my back, pay them off. Right. Well, now, the

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apparently the families through the bankruptcy court
want control of his ex slash Twitter account.

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And I'm sitting here thinking, you
know these people, says this comes

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after Jones, who filed for bankruptcy
protection in twenty twenty two, agreed to

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Liquidator's assets in bankruptcy after failing to
reach a settlement. When they say,

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they of families that would reduce the
one point five billion he owes to the

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relatives of twenty students and six staff
members killed in the twenty twelve mass shooting.

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Blah blah blah. Oh the anniversary
was what just a week or so?

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No, two weeks ago, one
long ago? Anyway, they want

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they're telling the judge, it says, now the families want the Houston,

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Texas judge to seize control of Jones's
social media accounts to ensure he is unable

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to start any new business ventures,
claiming that jones posts are a key part

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of the info Wars business being liquidated
to pay his debts. And this is

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through Reuter's news service. But what
they're claiming is is that his followers,

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because he's got two point three million
followers, they should be treated no different

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than a customer list of any other
liquidating business. And I can understand that

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there's a value that being a customer
list, especially something with two point three

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million on the list, But are
they actually customers or are they people?

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What they want to do is basically
put Alex Jones in a position that he

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cannot create any business of his own, but yet they want their money.

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So they want to keep him from
being able to start any business ventures,

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but yet they want their money,
and if he doesn't have one point five

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billion. Basically, what I'm getting
from this is is the families are saying,

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we want everything you have, and
we want you to die in poverty,

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unable to make a dollar enough to
be able to support yourself and your

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family. And don't you think that's
a little harsh considering we're talking about somebody

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who was thought he was exercising his
First Amendment rights. But because some families

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put some information out there that Jones
took advantage of and started twisting around and

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they get this ridiculous court settlement.
Don't you think that's a little harsh,

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a little much. See, I'm
just curious. I would. But the

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problem is this, he can use
this as a springboard to literally suffer no

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consequence otherwise. And what's fascinating to
me is it doesn't matter if they're actually

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customers or not. By the way, a contact list that is that extensive

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has a monetary value, and I
don't I don't know what it is off

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the top of my head, considering, but considering these were people who elected

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to follow him, that's all they're
doing. They're not necessarily doing business with

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him. I know it's potential for
business, but if you look at it

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this way, the entire enrollment of
Facebook or Twitter could be a potential customer.

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Well, but here's someone decides to
follow you. That's not necessarily you're

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using them in a monetary way.
So who's Jones didn't go out and recruit

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these people. They just hit a
button to follow what he had to say.

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So are they really a are they
a piece of something that can be

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put to a monetary value? When
it was they get engaged with Jones and

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not Jones engaging with them, yes, because at the end of the day,

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Look, even when there was a
buyout offered to me, there was

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a monetary value attached to my contact
list. And it didn't matter if you

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were a signed up member at my
website or if you were just in the

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Ocelli effect contact list. Right,
that list of contacts is considered a curated

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list, and that curated list has
a monetary value. Now, mine certainly

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is not as large as Alex Jones
is, but and doesn't have you know,

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some of the same key people attached
to it, and it is a

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curated list. I mean especially,
there's a whole lot of demographic information that

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could be gleaned from that. Right, there is a lot of stuff here

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where you know, if people click
on it or whatever else, there's paid

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options that might have come up.
So you have a list of people that

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did you know that you can cross
reference with another list that says, Okay,

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these are people that bought digital products, these are people that bought information,

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these are people that paid for subscriptions. These things are all valuable to

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people that have different Yeah they are, but we're talking about people that simply

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hit a follow button on Twitter.
Yeah, but not everybody might we I

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mean, I know that the potential's
there. I know the potential is there

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for a huge amount of money to
be made back and forth between the two

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entities, But they're talking about taking. What happens if he says, Okay,

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take my Twitter account and then he
turns right around and opens another Twitter

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account, does that give them access
then to that? Well? No,

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because they took the first one.
Well no, because if it's an info

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Wars account, that's one thing.
But if it's Alex Jones's account, do

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they have a right to that?
Yeah, they have a right to be

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able to control him the rest of
his life and his name, but they

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don't. What they have is here's
the problem right where the individual becomes intermixed

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with the business. And this is
the thing right like right now, Jones

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of info Wars is a product of
info Wars. Okay, it's not just

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him personally, and that's under saying
that. But what if this is his

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personal account? Let me see if
I can find out what account they're talking

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about. If it's an info Wars
account, yes, I can see seizing

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it, but that lines. But
if it's Alex Jones's personal account, I

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don't think they have a right to
it. That line bankrupt. But my

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point is that line is very blurry, okay, because you know, at

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Real Alex Jones is very likely part
of the marketing scheme of Info Wars and

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prison Planet. Right, so if
those two things are attached to this lawsuit,

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and that is part of the you
know, the product. I mean,

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just like you lose your you know, you know this is my personally.

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You know, if you work for
a business and you have an email

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account with that business, right it
is part of that business. If you

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have a Twitter account, if you
have a Facebook account that is attached to

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a business. That's the thing.
This is a very blurry situation because because

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I don't know if these things have
ever been legally like you know, the

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lines have ever been drawn perfectly.
Uh, you know, for instance,

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what I use. You know,
we don't effect account. We can find

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out what this is. Whatever account
was taken down by Elon Musk, it's

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the account that he restored to him
earlier this year. I thought it was

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at Real Alex Jones. Maybe I
don't know, but I apparently that's the

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one. It says, Well,
I'm just reading from a story here.

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It says, uh, Jones who
was the host of Info Wars, permanently

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banned from Twinter now known as x
in twenty eighteen before Musk acquired the company.

408
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.680
At the time, Twitter claimed that
Jones have been permanently banned for violating

409
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.720
the company's abusive behavior policy. Mastem
Media got the majority of the public to

410
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.079
believe that Jones was banned over comments
made about Sandy Hick school masaker, but

411
00:31:55.119 --> 00:32:00.400
Alex Jones revealed that not to be
the case. Jones told Tucker also that

412
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.599
the real reason he could van was
because he insulted a CNN reporter, whom

413
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.920
he publicly shamed in a video outside
of a congressional hearing. Apparently, he

414
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:13.079
said, I bull bullied Oliver Dorsey. I don't even know who Oliver Darcy

415
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.559
is. I have no idea that
well, I'm trying to see which account

416
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:22.400
it was that was taken down.
But again the problem is, right,

417
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:27.359
is it his personal account or is
it his performance account in the course of

418
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.279
doing business? Uh? And like
I said before, and the other thing

419
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:35.359
is, according to these platforms,
by the way they dictate to you,

420
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.680
what belongs to you and what does
it all? Right? So the idea

421
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.640
that this even belongs to him in
the first place. Is it his property?

422
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:46.839
You know that could be challenged as
well. It's not really his.

423
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:52.079
It belongs to Twitter X, you
know, just like they tell you.

424
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:53.920
I mean, look, technically speaking
right now, I mean I do feed

425
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.559
some things, although they're starting to
push back on it to YouTube again,

426
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.759
but I feed it under my own
name, and I'm trying to say it's

427
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:08.440
my own personal YouTube channel, right
and they're starting to block it. I

428
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:16.519
can't believe that his award actually wasn't
thrown out on an appeal because of being

429
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:20.400
excessive. But he didn't make money. See, but that's the thing.

430
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.119
If you don't try, this is
what frustrates the hell out of me.

431
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:29.839
The guy didn't make the effort to
defend himself by following directions. He didn't

432
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:34.960
file things all the time. No, No, this was this court case

433
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:40.200
was a lot different than Fetcher's.
This court case basically you got the families

434
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.599
of the twenty kids and six others. Yeah, but it's not they You

435
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:50.440
look at this one point five billion, it comes down to over almost fifty

436
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:54.200
eight million a piece, just divided
by the twenty six. Now Wilks has

437
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.680
got their hooks in a piece of
them the lawyers are going to end up

438
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.640
getting the most of it. That's
the shame. Yeah, okay, so

439
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.359
you're doing a long way around though. To get back to the same thing,

440
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:08.280
his lawyers didn't file crap on time, just like Fetzer didn't file stuff

441
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.840
properly, the same thing happens.
Fine, no, no, but hold

442
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:17.679
on hold the result of a one
point five billion dollars to me, even

443
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.800
if he didn't file stuff on time, still that seems excessive for what it

444
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.559
was that he supposedly did. Yeah, and if you don't put words out

445
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.440
there, fine, if you don't
bother to just shot anybody, and if

446
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.400
you don't bother to file an appeal, then then then the hell with you

447
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:37.119
anyway, because he's not making an
attempt to do anything about it within the

448
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.480
confines of the of the structure.
You see what I'm saying. Well,

449
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:43.440
to be honest, he may not
be able to afford it, but that

450
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:45.400
may not be able to I mean, a lot of appeals aren't filed because

451
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.719
of the cost is going to take
the file the damn things is gone through

452
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.000
a divorce and now he's lost info
wars. I'm just saying it seems to

453
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:57.239
me excessive one in the fine But
I can't believe that there arguing over a

454
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.760
Twitter list. Yeah, well,
anyway, I will not believe for a

455
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:07.360
second he can't afford a lawyer to
file an appeal, even if it's badly

456
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:12.239
done. He's not doing it.
He's not making the effort. Besides that,

457
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.840
you mean to tell me among the
millions of listeners, he's got.

458
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:19.480
Not one lawyer out there would do
it pro bono, Not one lawyer out

459
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:23.480
there would do it on contingency.
Come on the potential there for a lot

460
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:30.280
of money to even be paid as
somebody who is executing the circumstances here is

461
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.920
there. Lawyers don't care. He's
not making the effort to defend himself in

462
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.599
the first place, and then he's
not making the effort to appeal as all

463
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.239
there is to it. Look,
I know a guy like you or me

464
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.679
might have trouble paying a lawyer.
This guy doesn't have that kind of trouble.

465
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.079
I'm sorry, he just doesn't.
I don't know. I would think,

466
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.920
I don't know. Some rich people
that get into these court cases end

467
00:35:55.000 --> 00:36:00.760
up losing everything because of the lawyer. The guy maybe so maybe so much.

468
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.360
Look at the stuff that don't look, Kevin Spacey, he just went

469
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:08.920
through all this crap and was exonerated. Exonerated. Yeah. In fact,

470
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:14.159
Douglas Murray went after I think it
was the BBC or somebody for saying,

471
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:19.119
hey, you know, stop talking
smack. The guy was exonerated. You

472
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:23.400
know, give him a damn break. He's just losing his multimillion dollar house.

473
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.239
He's being foreclosed on, they're putting
it up on auction. He's lost

474
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.320
everything trying to defend and he still
owes millions in legal fees over this thing.

475
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.840
So yeah, it's it can but
bankrupt people. And I'm goodn't surprised

476
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:44.039
that between his divorce and everything else, Alex Jones is probably having the squeeze

477
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:49.719
turnips to get money. I mean, I can't. I cannot believe when

478
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:53.840
you got when you got a ten
million dollars a month operation, there is

479
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:59.920
no way, no way that people
were done. By the way, while

480
00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:02.400
he he's doing all that business,
people were still donating to him. If

481
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:06.960
he just put out a thing for
a GoFundMe. I mean, come on,

482
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:08.480
for God's say, Trump, who
is supposed to be one of the

483
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.519
richest men in the world, is
still accepting donations and some of that is

484
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.159
going to his legal fees. You
mean to tell me that Alex Jones couldn't

485
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.599
get on the radio and say,
look, I don't have the ability to

486
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.360
defend myself. I need lawyers.
That lawyers wouldn't volunteer, that people wouldn't

487
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:29.519
throw money at him. People were
throwing money at him just for his efforts,

488
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:34.719
right even though he had the multimillion
dollar a month operation, It didn't

489
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.320
matter. People were still not there
money too out there that lawyers, believe

490
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:43.320
it or not. There are people
out there that have the reputation, and

491
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.239
lawyers are not going to touch him. I don't care what you say that

492
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:49.000
even somebody, oh, I'm a
fan of his and I'll do it pro

493
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.960
bono, not till they see the
behemoth they've got to take on. In

494
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:58.079
this case. You've got twenty six
entities suing him and getting a one point

495
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.199
five billion dollars in a set of
No lawyer is gonna want to touch that

496
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.599
because they're fighting from the bottom of
a hole that that Alex Jones dug for

497
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.719
himself, and it's going to take
him forever to even see daylight, let

498
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.679
alone start gaining ground. Yeah,
I can see him not being able to

499
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.639
get his way. I can see
him going broke on this, completely broke.

500
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.199
We don't know how much money he's
tucked away, and somebody could be

501
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.559
siphoning off the back end of it. We don't know what he had to

502
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:30.440
pay his wife, her ex wife. Well, you know from from her

503
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:37.400
statements, not that much. Uh
And but well that's her statement. She's

504
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.480
responsible. I mean, she put
herself in that whole situation. Could have

505
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:44.039
hauled ass a long time ago,
but she wanted to ride that trick pony

506
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.239
as long as money was coming in. Of course, started to go back,

507
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:50.719
she bails, of course she did. So I'm not making it get

508
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.960
a damn time. I'm sorry.
I take sides when it comes to divorces,

509
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.559
and she didn't get a damn dime. More power to them, not

510
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:01.639
look whatever. But I'm just saying
that I have a hard time believing that

511
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:07.119
anybody who has that kind of income
or that kind of action, uh,

512
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.840
has the It doesn't. It's not
the same. I'm just telling you,

513
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:13.599
it's not a guy who's got a
couple of million dollars and gets broken.

514
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.719
It's not oj who you know,
got completely uh you know, drained by

515
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.719
Johnny Cochran and associates. Okay,
Uh, he ended up with next to

516
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:27.400
nothing except his NFL pension. Uh. You know it's not OJ. This

517
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.360
is not the same thing. This
guy was making more money, you know,

518
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:32.519
monthly than OJ, did, you
know, trying to film all of

519
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:37.440
his naked gun movies and everything else. I mean yeah, but I mean

520
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.400
until you see his sheets, that
tells you how much it was costing him

521
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.119
to make that pull that money in
there. You don't know what these lawyers.

522
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.280
Once the lawyers get involved, man, your money is worthless. It's

523
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.960
all theirs, Okay, who the
lawyer is. Yeah. And that's the

524
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.559
thing is that on top of it, there are people, there are plenty

525
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:00.800
of lawyers out there that know that
they're gonna be able to bankroll themselves off

526
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:05.800
of just handling the celebrity anyway,
which is why you know, some of

527
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:07.639
these guys end up in these criminal
trials and they pay, you know,

528
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.920
one hundred million dollars for a criminal
trial, and they get it. It's

529
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:17.920
me. You see someone Biden who
had to get his damn child support reduced

530
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.599
to less than five thousand dollars a
month, and he was up a round

531
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:27.320
twenty thousand he gets it reduced because
he's broke, he's got oh you know,

532
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.119
he's an artist and he's got to
rely on the income of that.

533
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.280
But he's got Abby Lowell representing him. Now, how much do you think

534
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:38.320
he charges per hour in court?
Under or over one thousand dollars? Well,

535
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:43.159
definitely over. But if you think
for a minute that that's not being

536
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.559
done so that that guy can gain
some other favors somewhere from somebody, I

537
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:51.199
mean, please know that, But
just think about the billing hour. So

538
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:55.000
who's footing the bill? Huntering got
it? So who's paying it? Well?

539
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.960
A good question. But meanwhile,
we didn't even get to the hunt

540
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.280
Biden conviction yet, did we,
Which I find hilarious. Which I find

541
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.679
hilarious because look, the first problem
is everybody freaking out about it, one

542
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:14.840
way or another. The sentencing guidelines
on what this guy did, okay,

543
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:19.199
and everything else amount to next to
nothing. Okay, because he has no

544
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:24.440
prior felony convictions, he's probably likely
to get something like six months probation,

545
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.239
and people are freaking out, Oh, he could go to prison. Come

546
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.440
on, really you think so?
I mean, I know they're gonna let

547
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:36.360
him roll and Joe says he's not
going to pardon him or maybe or what.

548
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.079
But come on, this is this
is not what's gonna happen. Hunter,

549
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.159
Biden's not going to prison for twenty
years get out of here. Not

550
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:49.000
for this, I mean, you
know, stay tuned, but uh for

551
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.400
lying on a on a on a
gun for him, which, by the

552
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.880
way, his biggest album, His
biggest problem is down road. Because we

553
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:04.480
just had the FBI I confirmed that
his laptop is his laptop, and now

554
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.880
since it's been admitted his evidence into
a court case, I think what else

555
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:12.639
is gonna come off that damn computer
we're gonna hear about. We're gonna be

556
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:17.639
hearing about the laptop from Hell for
quite a while. Of course we are.

557
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:23.000
Nobody's gonna let go of that.
It's gonna be Look, it's not

558
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.960
November yet, all right, and
we still have the debates to get through,

559
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.199
which I'm waiting to see what that
spectacle turns up, which you and

560
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.320
I had a pretty interesting conversation about
it before we went to air. Now

561
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.000
we do have some callers, and
I want to get to them soon.

562
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.280
Let me take a look at the
time. Also, because we've already used

563
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.920
up a bunch of time and should
probably go to a break and then get

564
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.760
back around to the phone callers quickly. So I'm gonna do that. But

565
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:51.599
man, oh man, look,
the laptop's not going away. Hunter's not

566
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:55.239
going away. He's gonna get dragged
through court some more. Notice how the

567
00:42:55.320 --> 00:43:02.639
Trump trials are evaporating though, because
I told you that was gonna happen.

568
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.800
But I pay no attention to me. I'm wrong, right, don't worry.

569
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.519
Oh wait, we still got our
bet about him. Get pulling time

570
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:14.159
here, we'll learn. What when
is it, July eleventh? Yep,

571
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:17.960
No, we got our bets down. We'll see, we will see.

572
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:23.800
But take a look at the other
trials. What's happening A whole lot of

573
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:28.360
nothing, which is what's gonna come
of it, Okay, I assure you.

574
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.360
And meanwhile, Trump's gonna appeal,
okay, unlike Alex Jones, He's

575
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:38.760
gonna appeal because notice the word appeal
hasn't come out of Jones's mouth yet,

576
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:45.199
right. Anyway, stay tuned.
I guess it'll all continue to work itself

577
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:50.239
out in the wash, as they
say. But I find it funny that

578
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:57.159
people were still angry after Hunter Biden
was convicted on the Fox News is of

579
00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.639
the world. They were. They
were still pretty pissed, like this is

580
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:05.280
nothing. The funniest thing, though, is he had a plea agreement in

581
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.719
front of him, Yeah, and
he threw it back at him and said,

582
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:13.760
nah, So now he's sweating it. I mean, he's sweating it.

583
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:15.760
We know he's not gonna pull any
time, but there's a little part

584
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.760
of him that's probably hitting the pipe
right now, thinking, damn, I

585
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.360
wish this would go away. Oh
yeah, and it ain't going away,

586
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:27.960
guaranteed he see what comes out of
it. But if you think about it,

587
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:31.519
he could have had this all done
months ago had he taken the second,

588
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:37.159
you know, plea agreement that they
offered him, because the judge threw

589
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.239
out the first one. It was
so ridiculous. Yeah, so I wonder

590
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:44.000
he's kicking himself in the butt over
not taking the plea agreement before him.

591
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.599
Yeah. Well, my understanding was
that the judge tossed it out. That's

592
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:50.320
what the problem was. I don't
remember what happened with the second one.

593
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.079
No, they made another. They
made another offer the judge throughout the original

594
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:59.159
plea agreement that Weiss came up with
where he was going to get immunity for

595
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:06.159
any and every thing to walk.
But they did. They folded they well,

596
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:12.559
they folded the gun charge in as
a secondary under the tax evasion,

597
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.159
and they were going to put him
in a deferred program. And when the

598
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:22.320
judge saw that that, he would
go through the deferred program, and if

599
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:29.719
he went through the program, he
would have immunity to other crimes associated.

600
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.280
Now, think about the evidence that
they used in this gun trial. It

601
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:39.559
was basically his girlfriend, his ex
wife, and his ex sister in law

602
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:50.360
flash benefit, so you know,
plus the laptop, getting that laptop in

603
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:54.519
as evidence and the FBI confirming that
it's Legit was the biggest thing to come

604
00:45:54.599 --> 00:46:00.519
out of this trial. Okay,
Now, if we had taken the damn

605
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:05.840
plea agreement, it never would have
been entered. Well look, I just

606
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.760
I just want this little note right
here on the broadcast and then we're going

607
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:12.559
to a break. And that is
real simple one. You know, all

608
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.719
you people that were yelling at me
and uh, you know, private emails

609
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.039
and messages don'tor Biden's not even good
to siparty consequences. You get a pleate

610
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.239
deal and he's getting beget up on
everything. And I said no, he's

611
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:27.960
not, and this makes no sense. This is going to amount to next

612
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:31.360
to nothing, but they're gonna put
on a show like something is gonna come

613
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:36.639
out of it. Gee, you
know, you guys that said that they

614
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:40.480
would never even you know, take
it to court. He's now been convicted.

615
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.840
So just remember that later on when
we get to nothing of consequence happening

616
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:52.159
to uh Trump, and nothing of
consequence happening to Hunter Biden. I mean,

617
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:57.800
I can foresee uh you know what, it's some probation with this gun

618
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.480
charge, and maybe the rest been
ole evaporate. I mean, look,

619
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:06.840
if Joe Biden is removed from office
one way or another, and oh,

620
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:08.880
by the way, there's you know, more impeachments to come and everything else.

621
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.199
I mean, Merrick Garland in contempt
of Congress, we didn't cover that

622
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.400
either, but you know, we'll
get there. You guys can call in.

623
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.519
But just keep in mind that that
a raspy voiced guy like me told

624
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.000
you none of these people pay any
real consequences. That's the way this works.

625
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:29.280
And in fact, you know what
Trump is fund raising off of it?

626
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:34.320
Just fine, And I don't know, Biden can't pardon Hunter and get

627
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:38.480
away with it. Or Kenny,
let's stay tuned on that. But what

628
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.239
do you think was there any outcome
that was gonna make any of the right

629
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.280
wing media happy? Or you if
you're pissed off right now that Hunter Biden,

630
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:50.119
Oh, Hunter Biden, like I've
heard, If you're pissed off about

631
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.079
that, tell me something. What
would have been the outcome you wanted?

632
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:59.559
Because you didn't have one? Here
he's convicted, and guess what you're now

633
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.239
going to say? Where the sentencing
goes. And just like with Trump,

634
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.320
you'll see where the sentencing goes,
and nobody's gonna be happy about it.

635
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:10.000
Promise you that. I mean,
I know everybody wants to send their opponents

636
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:15.960
to the guillotine, but the Saint
France baby. Anyway, this is the

637
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.280
Ocelli effect. And it is Friday
night, so I do see some callers

638
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.960
on the line, including our friend
Jimmy James, so I'm sure he's gonna

639
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:23.599
have something to say about this.
And yeah, we do have the dirty

640
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:30.039
dollar bets out there, So stick
arounund and participate and be part of the

641
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.760
conversation, get heard, be part
of the effect. Three one nine five

642
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:38.760
two seven five zero one six three
one nine five two seven five zero one

643
00:48:38.920 --> 00:49:00.199
six the ocell effect open Mic Friday
Night returns after this nuclear holocaust. You

644
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.760
know what uranium is, right?
I think on upler weapons and other things

645
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:07.400
like fats enough. You know what
uranium is, right, bad things.

646
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:13.480
It was a gun with bad things
thelopauts, you know what ulanium is?

647
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656
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657
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658
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659
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660
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661
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662
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663
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664
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666
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in digital or physical force. Go ahead,

667
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:16.360
call it the truth about the Jafay
assassination. Right, Well, what

668
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:21.360
do you want to know? Toddy
Baker's wild claim Oswal girlfriends he knew Ruby

669
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.840
and Barry handswer weapons. Really,
I imagine I could claim I have four

670
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:28.800
wheels. It doesn't make me a
wagon, but okay, I'm building and

671
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:30.760
trying to prevent the murder of John
Kennedy. Come on now, has a

672
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real effort on the day of Hay
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673
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Enter Judith Baker in her own words, you'll get the results for a digital

674
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:45.559
copy of a book where Walt Brown
utilizes her own words and the known evidence

675
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:51.360
in the case to get at well
a different perspective. Let's say you can

676
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:55.000
get Judith Barry Baker in her own
words from the author himself, signed if

677
00:51:55.039 --> 00:52:00.000
you request it by contacting doctor Brown
at k I A s J FK at

678
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:05.719
aol dot com. It's a fun
book and it actually dissects the many,

679
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:13.199
many fantastic claims judas very Baker in
her own words. Oh Chilly dot com

680
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:25.159
going to chuck o'chilly. You're Sarko
Shelly. You know it's charcolly. You

681
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:30.199
are about doing market upon the great
brusade. The eyes of the world out

682
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.039
upon you. The hopes and prayers
of liberty loving people everywhere march with you,

683
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:39.199
in company with our brave allies and
brothers in arms on the other front.

684
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:45.239
Your cat will not see an easy
one. Your enemy is well trained,

685
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:52.280
well equipped, and battle heartened.
He will fight that man demand the

686
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:55.960
Tit has turned. The freemen of
the world are marching together to victory.

687
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:04.000
Good luck and let us, But
I'm almighty God upon the great and noble

688
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:13.440
undertaking the first revelation through conversation.
And we're back with segment number two of

689
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.400
the Ocelli Effect. Open Mike a
Friday night, so really quickly, because

690
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:20.719
it is June fourteenth, I want
to remind you that it's not just my

691
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:27.119
daughter's birthday, but it's also Donald
Trump's birthday and boy George's birthday. They

692
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:31.480
share a birthday here June fourteenth,
which is Flag Day. Also Marla Gibbs,

693
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:36.000
and let's see the guy from Country
Joe and the Fish, what was

694
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:39.760
his name? Barry Melton is also
born on this day. And yes,

695
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:46.199
me and Bleeth, how about that? All people born geminis on June fourteen

696
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:52.519
different years. Of course, my
baby's twenty five years old today. I'm

697
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:55.599
kind of amazed at that, but
eh, what are you gonna do?

698
00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:59.679
Everybody is amazed when they look inside
of their own navel and look at their

699
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:04.360
own children. Right. So anyway, I'm also gonna have Joan Mellon on

700
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.880
the show pretty soon. She's got
a new book coming out, Sherlock being

701
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:15.400
Canfield or Catfield. Uh, anyways, that's that's coming up, and uh

702
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:22.400
yeah, we're gonna do that probably
here from Jefferson Morley again soon depending on

703
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.320
if there's any developments there, and
a few other people of interest from that

704
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:30.280
world, very very soon on the
o'celly effect, and hopefully we'll hear from

705
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:35.119
you three one nine, five,
two seven, five zero one six three

706
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:38.760
one nine five two seven five zero
one six or reach out to me on

707
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:44.280
Skype Charles dot o'ceelly if you do, I will check the messages. As

708
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.280
a matter of fact, I see
I have some messages now, and uh,

709
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:54.039
not sure what everybody's saying there,
but if somebody asks they can come

710
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:59.480
on to the show, I will
call them. And also is this from

711
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:05.320
today? Wow, it could be
that. Let me see here, let

712
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:09.159
me check because there might be a
baby born among a former guest, or

713
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:15.480
a former guest could have filed a
child today. Let's see. Anyways,

714
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.599
p PTE, you got anything you
want to add before we get to the

715
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:24.360
callers. No, but when you
have Joe mellan on, ask her a

716
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:29.960
question for me and I'll get the
specifics if you need it. But sometime

717
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:35.119
back, she was quoted one of
these panel discussions that they had evidence that

718
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:40.719
Oswald was seen outside of the school
book depository or they had proved for something,

719
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.320
and I want to know if she
still stands by that statement. Okay,

720
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:51.079
well, I'll have to get the
specifics of what it was. They

721
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.519
had evidence that he was out front
at the time of the shooting, and

722
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:59.639
I'm thinking I've never heard her because
I can't find anywhere where she has explained

723
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:04.360
that. I don't know if she
was relying on somebody else's work for her

724
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:07.239
own, but I'd like to know
if she still stands by the statement.

725
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:15.199
Now, hey, look, I
don't know that that. That's an interesting

726
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:16.559
I mean, that would kind of
put her in the prayer man camp,

727
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:22.039
right, I mean, yeah,
right, he's out well or or some

728
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:29.360
other some other configuration. I don't
know. You get me, give me

729
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.920
a very specific version of that question, and I'll definitely put it to her.

730
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.400
I'd like to know the answer to
that, because I never heard her

731
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:38.000
say that. Where did she say
that? By the way, do you

732
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:42.639
know? I don't know? Is
some reference that it was a post that

733
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:47.920
Judith Baker had had placed on one
of her blogs, had a link to

734
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:53.880
some because that's what Judith was using. Is proof that other researchers say that

735
00:56:54.119 --> 00:57:00.239
Oswald wasn't in there at the time
the shooting. So but yet that contracts

736
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:02.440
Juda's saying that, yes, she
was there as part of the abort team,

737
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.400
which, God, that's got to
be the most ridiculous thing I've ever

738
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.480
heard come out of all this crap. Yeah, freaking abort team, the

739
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:14.199
board team. Well, you know
she knows. Look, Judas knows it

740
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.280
because he told her right, because
they were talking every night from the school

741
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:21.440
book depository. I mean, he
told her, right, you have to

742
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:24.639
have a whole team to aboard an
operation instead of picking up the radio and

743
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:30.960
going, hey, guys, aboard, Yeah, because there is always an

744
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:36.760
abort option, right, There's always
a key like if this happens or if

745
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:40.000
you get this signal, there's always
a you know what, call it off

746
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:44.800
kind of signal, right, in
any sort of operation like this, I

747
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:47.960
mean, even even when there's a
mob hit, there's always a like,

748
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:53.840
look, if this goes down,
walk away, Okay, there's always that

749
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:58.159
thing, and it's built in.
It's built in. It's like, if

750
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.199
this certain thing goes down, then
that means don't do it, you know

751
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:04.199
what I mean. And it could
be as simple as the guy doesn't have

752
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:07.400
the flower in his lapel. Or
he's got you know, you get a

753
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:12.440
signal if this guy's there, don't
shoot the guy whatever. All right,

754
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:16.159
there's always something that tells you this
means don't go through with it. The

755
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:21.079
abort team that always killed here,
they had a team, had a team

756
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:23.119
in place, and I'm still trying
to understand what was it the team was

757
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:29.360
supposed to do to abort the operation. I don't know those that were carrying

758
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:32.559
out the operation, or simply you
know, just start pointing, going,

759
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:37.199
he's gotta good, he's got a
good Yeah, well it'sposed to be how

760
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:40.159
this abort he was supposed to abord. I don't know. You gotta ask

761
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:46.280
you gotta Askkosh Plumley about that bringing
guy. You know, even though even

762
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.800
though Tosh says he was on the
other side of the street, right and

763
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.840
he's on I saw his head go
way back. I'll you from over here,

764
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.599
and I'm like, dude, where
you're standing, do you realize how

765
00:58:55.719 --> 00:59:00.440
ridiculous that? I mean, it
looks good on the film, I mean,

766
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:08.159
but I don't know. Maybe I
think time would help this situation,

767
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:10.840
but it just made it worse,
you know, just like he was going

768
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:14.639
to take that thervice to Mexico.
But then there was a you know,

769
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.079
he was going to take it to
Cuba right to get rid of Castro because

770
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:25.360
they were going to give him cancer
or something. I don't know. I'm

771
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:30.360
gonna get a freaking walk around with
one of these night early nineteen sixties style

772
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:36.239
short services used to take school.
I had the plaid outside paint job.

773
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:39.039
It was plaid with a solid you
know, like a red cup top on

774
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:45.840
it. Yeah, I had.
I had a weird one in the seventies.

775
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:50.519
At one point. I mine was
King Kong with one foot each on

776
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:55.599
one of the twin towers, because
I want to say that they had I

777
00:59:55.920 --> 01:00:00.039
forget what year they completed the twin
Towers or whatever, but King Kong was

778
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:06.239
still like a popular thing to run
every Thanksgiving on TV, and somehow or

779
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:09.079
other they made a kid's lunchbox with
King Kong standing one foot each on the

780
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:15.000
twin towers and uh yeah, and
there was a thermist that went with it.

781
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:17.400
But I didn't get the thermis with
mine. I got the you know,

782
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:23.000
I got just the metal box.
Anyways, let's see what we need

783
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:28.039
to check and see if if someone
claims Oswald got a ticket for his thermos

784
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:30.400
you know, so he'd had to
see the place it in. I don't

785
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:34.119
know, I don't you know,
did did you know? What? What?

786
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.679
What? What was on Oswald's thermos
that he was supposed to carry to

787
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:44.519
Cuba with him that he was that's
why he was Did he have a plane?

788
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:46.039
Did you have a plaid one?
You know? Dunkin Donuts made a

789
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:49.880
cool thermos at one point. There
had to be. It had to be

790
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.800
for the T What was the the
show I Was a spy or something that

791
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:58.440
he just said he was a big
fan of. Well that, yeah,

792
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.679
but that's partially based on some actual
accounts from people that actually knew him that

793
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:07.360
he liked that TV show that she
adopted. But I don't know. Maybe

794
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.079
we check and see what what kind
of thermis that guy had on that TV

795
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:16.159
show I Lived Three Lives? What
what what thermis does the guy that's got

796
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:20.280
to be like one of those Jeopardy
questions. Tell us about the thermis that

797
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.920
the guy carried and I lived three
lives? Anyway, we got callers on

798
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:27.679
the line, Let's get to him
again. Three one seven, five,

799
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:32.519
zero one six. Maybe maybe Jimmy
James had a cool thermis that he could

800
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:36.360
have taken to Cuba at some point. I don't know, maybe we need

801
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:43.159
thermiss in Cuba right now, you
know, to deal with why not Jimmy

802
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:49.840
all right? It was brother in
the ninety two documentary that first brought up

803
01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:54.599
the stupid show. It was his
brother, right, it was was it

804
01:01:54.719 --> 01:02:00.400
was Robert right, Yeah, it's
his brother seeing it. I mean,

805
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:06.880
his brother's the source of that.
I don't know what you guys talking about

806
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:10.599
board teams, And for the third
year in a row, I'm going to

807
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:16.480
bring this up. Okapete, listen, this is me speaking, not Professor

808
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:22.559
Malady. I played the clip here
just last year where it was me,

809
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:30.800
years and years ago who was the
first to infer that Beckham, whom she

810
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:37.480
interviewed, was talking about what we
know as prayer man. It was me

811
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:44.719
that says, okay, that's what
Beckham was talking about, not Professor Mallan.

812
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:49.920
I played the clip here last year
and the year before that, and

813
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:57.280
played the part where she was quoting
the Rabbi Beckham. She simply asked the

814
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:00.480
man, and this is twenty some
years ago, any of these clowns were

815
01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:07.239
on the internet. When's the last
time you saw Oswalt standing up by the

816
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:15.519
book depository drinking a coke was his
answer. And look, Jimmy, though,

817
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:22.000
you got to admit that Beckham,
you have to take with a couple

818
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:25.880
of grains of salt no matter what
he's talking about, right, I mean,

819
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:31.719
you got to admit roll he passed
in seventy nine stress tests and everything

820
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:36.320
he says, I check and his
hands out. I got more pictures of

821
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:45.519
him with Oswald than the man's wife. Okay, look, man, I'm

822
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:51.039
just saying that some of the stuff
the guy has said it doesn't quite fit.

823
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:58.000
Okay, I don't know. I
don't know before nineteen seventy whatever was

824
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:01.000
that that guy he was scared of
before he died? Yeah, he was

825
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:06.400
lying his ass off and in admitted
that who was he scared of? M

826
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:15.159
Well, that depends right. Well
he said it. No, he said

827
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:18.719
it about the one guy stuff,
But who was the other guy? Who

828
01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:25.880
was? Other people had identified this
other guy that was supposedly handling him too,

829
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:32.639
right, well, everybody, Uh, the guy that the rabbi says

830
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:38.480
he was scared of was frad Lee
Christen. He sat there and rattled off

831
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:42.920
everyone else the names of a mafioso
and everything else like they were nothing.

832
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:46.960
That he knew Fred Lee Christman would
literally come and kill him if he even

833
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:51.280
spoke his name, As he says, he always had a way to find

834
01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:57.960
me. Well, what are you
going to do anyways? All right?

835
01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:00.000
Fair enough? So, so what
you telling me is we don't need to

836
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:06.159
ask Joan Mellan about this? Is
that right? Oh? I would absolutely

837
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.559
ask her, but she's probably never
even thought about it. All. She

838
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:15.880
does write an interview twenty some odd
years ago. So I would just say,

839
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:23.719
you realize that if Rabbi Beckham says
he's seen Postball drinking a coke out

840
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:29.039
in front of the building, then
that would make him prayer man. Yeah,

841
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:32.400
I guess so. And let's see, she must have conducted that interview

842
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:41.559
in two thousand, right, because
yes, yeah, nineteen ninety ninety thousand.

843
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:46.079
None of these people could have possibly
have seen those photos that I'm talking

844
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:50.159
about. Surely that Rabbi didn't know
nothing about it. And I doubt Joan

845
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:55.679
Mellan even cares about pictures. She's
not the kind to worry about such things.

846
01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:59.360
No, she didn't. I just
am because of my journey on that

847
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:04.360
just wile look at all coincides?
Well, I was talking to her back

848
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:12.679
then while she was writing a Farewell
to justice, right, and I remember

849
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:15.360
the Beckham interview. There is some
stuff she didn't publish too, by the

850
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:23.239
way, that is a little strange. They came from the Beckham discussions,

851
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:26.320
and I don't know. Maybe I'll
ask her about that when I bring her

852
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:30.239
on the show, because I had
a back and forth with her recently where

853
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:34.159
you know, she was angry at
me for a little while and I think

854
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:39.400
now maybe not so much. So
I'm going to bring around and open up

855
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:43.519
some different discussions. So any questions
you guys want to prepare for when she

856
01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:45.639
does come on, by all means, but I'm gonna mainly talk to her

857
01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:49.880
about this new book she's got out, but we're going to devote a segment

858
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:57.679
at least to unanswered questions of the
past. So maybe I'll ask her about

859
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:01.880
the the the Beckham interaction a little
more and see what she's willing to share,

860
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:08.480
because there I have reasons for why
I say I don't find him to

861
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:14.239
be a trustworthy source, and I
want to see if she relates that to

862
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:19.079
people, because she had a lot
of interaction with him. Anyway, we'll

863
01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:21.519
leave it at that, but anyway, Jimmy, I don't know if that

864
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:25.159
was all that you wanted to bring
up or if you had anything else on

865
01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:30.960
your mind. Go ahead was due
to what was being talked about. And

866
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:34.159
on the other hand, I don't
understand how this character that wrote the Devil's

867
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:38.920
Chest work could be broke because he's
a lawyer, but he do with all

868
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:43.440
his money. Yeah, well see, and that's the weird thing to me.

869
01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:46.239
But did you see that recently,
by the way, that he's you

870
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:48.719
know, in trouble because he had
a stroke not long ago and stuff.

871
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:56.360
No, I had no idea he
was having health problems again, and I

872
01:07:56.519 --> 01:08:00.800
certainly never thought he was going to
have economic problems. Well, he's a

873
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:04.280
lawyer. Someone filed bankruptcy for him
and save his house. You keep one

874
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:10.559
house, one car, that's the
rules. Well that's a lawyer, that's

875
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:13.480
the way it should be. But
you know, maybe he's incapacitated from the

876
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:16.079
stroke, but you would figure somebody
would step in and Uh, anyway,

877
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:19.600
at the moment, he's actually got
to go fund me. I'm just telling

878
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:24.520
you what is I'm not even telling
you to notice. I'm not saying I'm

879
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:28.279
not saying go donate to him.
I'm just saying, this is what's happened.

880
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:33.439
I mean, I know, I
obviously don't agree with anything the man

881
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:38.880
says, but whatever I do agree. Look, he's been in the fight.

882
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:44.640
Brother Simpkin or someone out there helped
this man out. Actually, I'm

883
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:53.840
surprised that Simpach is Simpitch Professionally,
Simpitch usually helps out people with housing issues,

884
01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:59.399
so I'm kind of surprised that Simpitch
didn't step in. But I swear

885
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:03.760
to you more. He sent out
a mass email this week too, you

886
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.640
know, to all the people on
the JFK fax blog. Are you signed

887
01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:13.439
up for the free version of that? By the way, no, I'm

888
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:16.359
not feel free to put my address
in there. Okay, well, you

889
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:18.880
know what, I'm gonna affward it
to you right now. I'll forward you

890
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:21.640
this one that I got right in
front of me, and i'll read you

891
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:26.079
the first first paragraph. Okay,
Morley set this out. Let me see

892
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:30.319
what the date is on this thing. On Tuesday? Okay, guys,

893
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:32.560
and I was not well on Tuesday. It did not read it on Tuesday.

894
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:35.920
I read it a few days later. But anyway, it says last

895
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:43.399
Sunday, my friend David Talbot suffered
a near fatal stroke. It happened as

896
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:48.920
he and his wife looks Camille.
Camille, Okay, Camille, We're having

897
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:54.439
to move out of the family home
of over thirty years in San Francisco,

898
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:59.680
and it's left both David and Camille
in a scary and precarious place, not

899
01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:04.920
no where they'll live on top of
this agonizing event. As a freend and

900
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:10.479
editor, writer, agitator, jokester, bon beyond, and leader, David

901
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:14.880
has inspired so many of us.
Now we want to help him in any

902
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:19.720
way we can. And then he
provides this GoFundMe link. So, like

903
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:24.000
I said, I'll forward that to
you JJ, just say you have it.

904
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:30.520
But I'm not encouraging anybody to you
know, two parties. I'm not

905
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:34.359
telling you what to do here,
all right, I'm just saying this is

906
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:38.680
something that's happened, and I was
just informing you guys about it because I

907
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:45.199
don't see it being talked about on
anybody's blog or anything. So there it

908
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:57.399
is. Let's see. Let's see
the Yeah, JMS t R that one

909
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:03.359
right, Jimmy, that's perfect,
Okay, great, So you will have

910
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:06.039
that in your email box just so
you know, so you could look at

911
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:12.319
it for yourself. But I'm just
I'm just reporting what's being reported to me.

912
01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:15.199
And I heard about this through somebody
else. But then Morley sent out

913
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:18.760
that email on Tuesday. I think
I literally heard about it on Sunday night,

914
01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:23.880
or maybe it was Monday morning,
and then I saw that email a

915
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.520
couple of days after Tuesday, because
I was unwell on Tuesday myself and wasn't

916
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:31.439
reading anything. But you know,
I think Wednesday or Thursday, I read

917
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:36.039
it and I was like, what
when did this happen? So, you

918
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:39.039
know, because I had heard that
he had had a stroke, and I

919
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:43.880
thought maybe it was somebody reporting on
some incident from before, but apparently it

920
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:48.119
happened again and he was already in
the process of losing his home in San

921
01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:54.319
Francisco, where it is expensive to
live. But you know, like you

922
01:11:54.439 --> 01:12:00.000
said, maybe it's time for a
bankruptcy and a reorganization. Anyway, I'll

923
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:02.239
leave it at that, Jimmy,
anything else you want to add or should

924
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:10.439
I move on to other colors?
Nah, that's all I got. As

925
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:16.800
usual, I'm the buzz killed,
no problem. I will bring you to

926
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:20.520
be the bumer. That's all right. We'll bring you back around for another

927
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:24.439
buzz in a couple of minutes.
Let me see who else we got on

928
01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:28.399
the line. I got, Uh, well, let's see this. This

929
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.840
actually identifies itself as being from Florida. I wonder if this is somebody I

930
01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:39.000
went back and forth with in emails
this week or not. Uh call it

931
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:44.159
from Florida. You're on the air. Oh yes, I guess correct.

932
01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:46.560
I tell you, hey, there
you are. You know what I did

933
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:49.039
have it back and forth and emails
with you this week? Didn't I?

934
01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:56.119
Yes, you did, And I'm
sorry bard you with my bullshet Nah Nah,

935
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:58.960
it doesn't bug me at all.
I just I just wanted you to

936
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:05.239
know that I don't you. I
don't just source some mainstream stuff or left

937
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:11.039
wing stuff for my show. And
I used to be kind of involved in

938
01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:15.840
the patriot media at one point.
But then when I disagreed with Santilli over

939
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:21.600
there pretty harshly and found him to
be a ridiculous government plant, a lot

940
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:25.520
of people turned against me, because, you know, how do you walk

941
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:28.800
away from a gun charge in Michigan
like that? He walked away from a

942
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:32.720
gun charge in Michigan with nothing on
him and ridiculously asserted an Oregon that he

943
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:35.880
was part of the press even though
he was participating in that siege at the

944
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:42.000
Bird Sanctuary, and as I predicted, his video came in as evidence against

945
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:46.920
everybody who they wanted to prosecute,
because although the Bundies walked away acquitted,

946
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:53.079
the others went to prison. So, you know, I was trying to

947
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:56.319
warn people as all that some people
were about to go to prison and this

948
01:13:56.520 --> 01:14:00.119
was a big setup and this idiot
was not going to help anybody, but

949
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:03.439
nobody wanted to listen to me,
so they ended up with Santilly and a

950
01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:08.760
couple of YouTube I tried to want
people, you know, come January sixth,

951
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:13.439
when that whole event was taking place, and I tried to warn them

952
01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:17.760
a little all set up and you
know, I've been spending too many times

953
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:21.880
in the count you know. Yeah, so, but yeah, but you

954
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:27.479
don't tell you why. But you
know, no, I understand, but

955
01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:30.319
you got to realize when this idiot
was running around, uh you know,

956
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:33.920
at the at the Bundy Ranch,
right, and I had a guy there

957
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:36.960
on the ground when he was running
around and screaming, all right, guys,

958
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:40.359
this is great, this is a
great thing for the patriot movement.

959
01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:44.199
We're going to go to the American
Spring next, Remember the American Spring that

960
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:48.600
was going to happen in DC.
Yeah, he was screaming about that.

961
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:53.159
And oh, by the way,
showing up with you know, fifty eighty

962
01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:59.359
sixty ninety thousand dollars worth of equipment
and other things at a thin air,

963
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:02.720
you know, And that to me
is very suspect for somebody who was in

964
01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:08.439
the media at the time. Uh, you know what I'm saying, It

965
01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:12.920
was a little much. And I'm
going, guys, you know, this

966
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:16.119
guy just walked away in Michigan.
Nobody would walk away with that gun charge

967
01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:20.000
in Michigan. I have the court
papers to prove that. They just decided

968
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:25.960
not to prosecute him in open court, and nobody's listening to me. Why

969
01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:30.399
do you do that to somebody who's
allegedly some big dangerous patriot, anti government

970
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:35.359
patriot. They generally would have buried
his ass. And also, you're not

971
01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:42.800
a journalist if you're participating in the
event. But he walked away in Oregon

972
01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:45.439
off of that, didn't he.
I mean, yeah, he sat in

973
01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:47.399
jail for a little while, but
you know, he had to collect more

974
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:51.319
intel. This guy. That's the
way I feel about him, and I'm

975
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:54.760
not changing my view on it,
and I don't care if people made death

976
01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:58.000
threats against me and everything, but
that guy, screw him. Screw him

977
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:01.439
and his followers and anybody else who
thinks he's even remotely useful. He is

978
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:06.760
useful, but only as an idiot. Pete Santilly. So that's the way

979
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.279
I stand there, Chris, And
Uh, I don't know how you feel

980
01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:15.880
about him, or if you do, but that's the thing, and I

981
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:18.199
don't give a damn. And that's
why I did shows that there were with

982
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:23.600
titles like the Death of the Alternative
Media, because that was the end of

983
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:27.600
it as far as I was concerned
right then and there. Uh. Anyway,

984
01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:31.760
So I have not always been on
the lift wing liberal side like people

985
01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:35.880
want to put me. Guess what
I believe in your right to have arms

986
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:40.079
as well, which is funny because
I almost feel like Hunter Biden's case would

987
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:46.439
be a good one for the n
RA. But that's my own private joke,

988
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:54.439
Chris. I'm taking up your time, though, and you like what

989
01:16:54.720 --> 01:17:00.840
I think. Most recently with we're
supposedly and saying the video of him assaulting

990
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:04.039
some female in the hallway of a
hotel, just like we did with a

991
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:13.159
P Diddy? Or am I getting
the name it correct? And I think

992
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:17.159
he's changed the name too many times. Yeah, Sean Combs, puff Daddy,

993
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:24.439
P Diddy? Whatever? Right?
Did you are you what I'm talking

994
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:28.159
about? Yeah? Did did he
do it? Like here there's the video

995
01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:36.439
video foot him. Yeah, just
it's pretty much just a it's it's the

996
01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:42.199
exact same as what you've seen with
the video footage if you had seen it

997
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:47.680
with him dragging a female back to
the hotel hotel room. What I'm talking

998
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:54.279
about, Yes, Well, I
mean it seems that we've all fallen him

999
01:17:54.319 --> 01:18:00.319
pray to a certain level of misinformation. I mean, if you you know,

1000
01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:03.159
if he can if anybody knows anything
about him, Biden, you can

1001
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:08.800
look at his back tattooes irregularly before
this video was released, and originally the

1002
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.800
tattoos on his back, shoulder,
back, left shoulder. If I'm not

1003
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:18.199
mistaken that with the finger lakes,
I forget the statement set exists. But

1004
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:25.439
if you look at the newer video, but it's just it's the black bars

1005
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:32.119
on his back that doesn't you know. Just there's a little bit of messuparation,

1006
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:39.039
a lot of miss information going on
around, you know, well,

1007
01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:45.119
I don't know what you know Combs
is guilty of exactly. I know the

1008
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:48.359
arrest looked really interesting. I know
it looks like, you know, again

1009
01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:54.239
you got another uh what is that
guy's name? R? Kelly kind of

1010
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:59.720
situation? Uh? I what what? What can I say? I I

1011
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:01.479
don't know what to say at this
point. I met that guy at one

1012
01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:06.560
point, though, many years ago, and didn't have the impression that he

1013
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:11.039
was the sort to do this.
I thought he was sort of a hustler.

1014
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:14.119
He was just one of many,
many people out there that I'm a

1015
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:17.720
producer and a promoter. You know, they were a dime a dozen in

1016
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:20.880
the nineteen nineties, and he just
happened to be one of the guys who

1017
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:26.760
actually pulled it off with the whole
bad boy thing. You know, maybe

1018
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:30.479
he really was a bad boy.
I don't know, man, I don't

1019
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:32.479
know what to make of it all. There's lots of interesting evidence, and

1020
01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:36.840
you know, again, we're going
to have another Hollywood elitist that probably doesn't

1021
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:41.439
behave like you know, he belongs
among human beings. But what are you

1022
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:45.039
going to do? We also brought
up Kevin Spacey earlier. Everybody forgets he's

1023
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:48.680
been exonerated by the way his career
is destroyed. You know, that is

1024
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:56.319
what it is. And then again, well Kevin Spacey talking about how he's

1025
01:19:56.520 --> 01:20:02.319
admitting that he actually and did take
a flight on Epstein. He was on

1026
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:08.119
a plane with Epstein and just laying
Yeah, yeah, I think that was

1027
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:11.359
well he was, he was,
Yeah, he was. He was on

1028
01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:15.560
a mission for the one of the
Clinton Foundation. You'd seen that one.

1029
01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:19.960
You know, I'm just catching this
this podcast, you know, before i'd

1030
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:24.520
called it. It was maybe like
five minutes before that start, you know,

1031
01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:28.920
caught a little bit late. No, he no, No, he

1032
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:30.880
was. He was definitely on the
Epstein. See, but here we go

1033
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:35.840
what was going on with the Epstein
situation because at certain points, you know,

1034
01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:40.039
there are people that are clearly there
because they want to get a piece

1035
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:43.279
of low lead to island. But
then there's others there that I'm not sure

1036
01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:46.199
if they were being set up or
what was going on. Uh and uh,

1037
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:50.119
just the fact that he's around that
guy, you know, it makes

1038
01:20:50.199 --> 01:20:54.680
my skin crawl anyway. So,
you know, is he clean maybe not,

1039
01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:59.199
but not guilty of the the exact
crime that they were trying to nail

1040
01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:01.560
him with. Right, So,
like I said, there's a lot going

1041
01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:09.800
on. If he's uh, if
he was in participation with the Clinton Foundation,

1042
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.840
that he's you know, the Clinton
Foundation. I mean, if you

1043
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:17.199
look at all the allegations, get
them, they're just as guilty as you

1044
01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:21.479
know, Jeffrey Epstein, you know, jeff In. My opinion was jes

1045
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:29.079
Wayne was most likely the arbitrator of
everything. And see was literally the you

1046
01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:31.640
know, one of the larger head
pieces. And you know what I mean,

1047
01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:38.239
Yeah, tend to be the guy
that you know, you know,

1048
01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:43.920
the unfortunate so that you know,
yeah, we're gonna indulge you to you

1049
01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:47.399
know, we're gonna let you indulge
in all your your sexual fantasies. You

1050
01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:53.560
know, just have your way,
enjoy yourself. Yeah, but you know,

1051
01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:56.880
and to him, he was going
to be the guy that was going

1052
01:21:56.920 --> 01:21:59.880
to be taken down and be known
to be the you know, the head

1053
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:03.399
guy for the organization. Indeed,
it was not him, it was somebody

1054
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:13.119
else laying I think Jesus lower on
the total pole because because the only right,

1055
01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:16.000
because the only people that ever get
suicided or actually go to prison are

1056
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:21.359
people that are available for the sacrifice, the actual controllers, the people that

1057
01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:26.119
are above it all, remain above
it all for a reason. So of

1058
01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:31.119
course, I know, I agree. What's that I said, unless you

1059
01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:35.640
work for Boeing, well there's another
problem. But you know, sometimes competing

1060
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:40.039
factions do knock each other off as
well. I mean, it is after

1061
01:22:40.119 --> 01:22:43.439
all, organized crime, my friend. Whether you want to call it that

1062
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:45.920
or not, and whether they're Italian
or not doesn't matter. It's organized crime.

1063
01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:51.239
So you know, on occasion there
are struggles within the underground, right,

1064
01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:57.520
So uh yeah, and look again, we're not talking about anybody who's

1065
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:01.279
a clean individual here or happenstance or
you know, some people make weird sort

1066
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:04.000
of like oh this just you know, so happened to be the case,

1067
01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:08.119
or oh well, you know,
I didn't mean to be around these people,

1068
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:12.720
but I was pretty much like that
footage of you know, Trump hanging

1069
01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:15.479
out with Epstein where it's I was
sort of like they seem to know each

1070
01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:17.319
other pretty well. Oh they did
at one point, but he got rid

1071
01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:23.520
of them, I know, I
know. But anyway, so congrats to

1072
01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:26.079
Sam. I'd to lette. I
thought maybe he had a baby same day

1073
01:23:26.119 --> 01:23:29.079
my daughter was born, but no, apparently he had a new baby on

1074
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:31.079
the fifth of June, and he
just shared a picture with me because he's

1075
01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:35.479
just coming home from being a way. So I just wanted to say,

1076
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:38.920
that's the guy who's been on the
show before. I wrote a couple of

1077
01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:42.239
interesting books, and I'm working on
a book with him now, Sam,

1078
01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:45.399
i'd to let anyways. Yeah,
so anything else on your mind, Chris,

1079
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:51.359
go for it. Man. Well, and then we could touch on

1080
01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:57.640
the fact of the possibility of youah, not a lot of paper kind of

1081
01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:04.079
liked this aspect, but you know, make control opposition. I'm sorry say

1082
01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:10.159
that again. I said we could
touch on the fact of and a lot

1083
01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:15.359
of people won't like this, but
the fact that Trump could be controlled opposition.

1084
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:18.600
Well, and now you've touched upon
the thing that got me the most

1085
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:26.359
hate of all in the old media
world because my whole complaint he's not fighting

1086
01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:30.359
the deep state. He's part of
the plan. But you know, I'm

1087
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:34.640
an idiot, So what can I
tell you? I mean, what everything

1088
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:39.680
that's going on, And Cheryl Garness
a little bit of hate for this,

1089
01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:44.640
but I'm in realist. You know, we can you know this, this

1090
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:49.439
discussing could go longer, but I
understand we'll live it in that time.

1091
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:56.000
Friend, but uh, I mean
Trump's automatically. I mean he's pretty well

1092
01:24:56.079 --> 01:24:59.640
tied into the key. You know, a lot of a lot of Trump

1093
01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:02.960
part inflate home you or co flate. You know. They time went to

1094
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:12.520
the Q the Q world mm hmm. Uh yeah, there's a question.

1095
01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:15.800
Trust the plan and just wait for
everything. You know, this doesn't matter

1096
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:23.039
what what ship thing occurs in our
existence, It's all part of the plan.

1097
01:25:23.399 --> 01:25:29.640
Just sit back. Uh. Just
you know, ship idly by Chris

1098
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:32.159
is the Chris. Let me ask
you something, Is there anything new coming

1099
01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:35.199
out of Q world? Because I
have not seen anything new at a Q

1100
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:42.000
world in a bit, have you? You know, I followed the community,

1101
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:45.239
you know, I mean I I
followed. I've been a follow with

1102
01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:49.279
the community for a while. You
know. That doesn't mean I necessarily subscriber

1103
01:25:49.399 --> 01:25:56.399
to it. Uh, but pretty
much the all the thing that is,

1104
01:25:56.640 --> 01:26:00.560
just keep keep fallowing the plan,
you know, keep trust him, trusting

1105
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:05.920
the plan. Uh. Everything is
part of the plan. Mhmm. So

1106
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:12.439
even the you know, listen,
I'm not trying to be a deviant hair

1107
01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:17.560
or anything like that, but I'm
you could even I'm not saying anything against

1108
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:21.239
God or anything like that, but
I mean it's the same that you just

1109
01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:27.760
everything is part of the plan essentially, okay, so let me let me

1110
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:33.000
what transpires, what transpires, just
just sit idly by and let it all

1111
01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:38.479
take place. So are these with
the bull to the end? Yeah,

1112
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:42.920
so realistic, So Chris, here's
my question though, are the are the

1113
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.640
felony convictions also part of the plan? Now? According to Q? Is

1114
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:53.479
that is that the new take on
this or or or not? You know,

1115
01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:58.520
that's it's it's really hard to gauge
quite honestly, it would same like

1116
01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:05.840
because that's all right, I mean
we're well to listen, We're we're in

1117
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:11.000
one or two scenarios. Either this
bull said is true or it's not true.

1118
01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:15.399
Okay, if it's I if Q
is true and real, okay,

1119
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:18.840
this is all part of the plan. The Trump's supposed to undergo these convictions,

1120
01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:25.479
and he's supposed to come back of
the hero I'm you know, just

1121
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:32.800
to gain more votes basically, I
mean, just Smari is okay, so

1122
01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:40.119
so weirdly at this point, so
Sesson can take most for us realistically.

1123
01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:43.640
I'm not trying to go jil no, no, of course, I just

1124
01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:45.359
I just want to make something clear, So right, now me and Q

1125
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:53.800
agree that this is actually part of
the plan, and the convictions are part

1126
01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:58.600
of the plan at this point.
This is a weird historic situation. Oh,

1127
01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:01.279
Shelley and Q agree that this is
part of the plans. Stay tuned.

1128
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:09.960
This is all part of getting him
reinstalled, right. I mean that

1129
01:28:10.079 --> 01:28:13.199
seems to me one of the narratives
that are being laid up. That's one

1130
01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:17.520
that's one of the dcias. Okay, so I have a partial We're living

1131
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:23.800
an ediocracy? Yeah, that the
movie. You know, they they spray

1132
01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:27.840
the plants of gatorade to hydrate them. You know, it's got electrolytes.

1133
01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:35.239
It's got electrolyts. It's got it's
got electrots. It's got electro lights.

1134
01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:39.840
That's the problem. It's got electro
lights. It's Brondo's good for you.

1135
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:45.520
I like money anyway. I'm gonna
hear more from BPTE in the next segment

1136
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:49.640
because I'm tired of talking. I
put Chris on hold, and anybody else

1137
01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:54.479
who wants to join us three one
nine, five two seven five zero one

1138
01:28:54.680 --> 01:29:00.239
six join with the Live Hotelly Effect
open mic please in the next segment.

1139
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:05.079
The last segment of tonight's open mic, unless you guys kick in or we

1140
01:29:05.159 --> 01:29:10.439
get some new participants, something like
that. Three one nine five two seven

1141
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:13.720
five zero one six. That is
the number to call or reach out to

1142
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:15.840
me, Charles don Ocelly on Skype, I will call you into the show

1143
01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:20.119
three one nine five two seven five
zero one sixth The Ocelly Effect. Open

1144
01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:43.760
Mic Returned the War State by Michael
Swanson explains the great national transformation that took

1145
01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:47.279
place and put the Kennedy presidency in
the context of the Times and reveals never

1146
01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:53.199
before published information about the Cuban missile
crisis. President Kennedy would not have been

1147
01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:58.119
assassinated if he had been president two
hundred years ago. His assassination took place

1148
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:01.000
in the context of the Cold War
and the rise of the national security state.

1149
01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:05.039
Before World War II, the United
States was a continental republic. In

1150
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:10.479
the decade that followed, it became
an imperial superpower. Generals such as Curtis

1151
01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:14.560
LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba, but knew that there were short range

1152
01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:17.840
missiles on the island arn't with nuclear
warheads that they could not destroy because they

1153
01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:21.840
were on mobile launchers. Their invasion
could have led to a Third World War,

1154
01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:27.199
and they wanted to go to war
anyway. The War State by Michael

1155
01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:30.600
Swanson reveals why and will show you
what President Kennedy was up against. For

1156
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:39.399
more information, The Warstate dot com
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1157
01:30:40.319 --> 01:30:46.279
Revelation through Conversation In Denial The Secret
Wars with Air Strikes and Tanks by

1158
01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:53.199
Larry Hancock. Secret wars became a
staple of US Covert Operations Center, still

1159
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:58.439
happening today. Larry Hancock's book In
Denial rips the cover off many of them,

1160
01:30:58.720 --> 01:31:01.319
using new files, closest things about
the Bay of Pigs that no one

1161
01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:05.399
has ever written about before. It
shows why it really failed and why the

1162
01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:10.840
United States did not earn from it. It also shows why other countries today

1163
01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:15.439
are doing secret operations with more success. This is the book that puts what

1164
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:20.279
some want to deny into the light. In Denial, Secret Wars with Air

1165
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:28.279
Strikes and Tanks Larryhncock. For more
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1166
01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:31.920
com. Pick up your copy of
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1167
01:31:32.119 --> 01:33:38.039
or physical form six six six six
six six six six. Sometimes does you

1168
01:33:38.640 --> 01:34:05.640
some time? Does it some home? Did you have about a propation for

1169
01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:33.279
conversation. Get ready for the third
and final segment of The Ocelli Effect Live

1170
01:34:33.359 --> 01:34:36.439
open mic right now. We got
about thirty minutes left to our time,

1171
01:34:36.680 --> 01:34:41.880
unless something changes in between now and
then. Chris still hanging on the line.

1172
01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:44.920
Looks like it looks like Jimmy James
might have hung up, and we

1173
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:49.039
had an anonymous caller that came and
went. You were only on the line

1174
01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:55.039
for three minutes and thirty eight seconds
according to what I see here, and

1175
01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:58.560
yes, sometimes got to wait five
minutes or so until I get around to

1176
01:34:58.600 --> 01:35:00.199
you, or I wait for other
people to fin talking before I get to

1177
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:05.760
you, just saying call back in
three one nine five two seven five zero

1178
01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:11.880
one six three one nine five two
seven five zero one six. That's the

1179
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:15.640
number to call or reach out to
me Charles dot Ocelli on Skype, and

1180
01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:18.960
I will call you into the show. So be Pete. We didn't get

1181
01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:25.760
to a lot of headlines because we
diverted into Jfkland Jeffrey Epstein discussion Q even

1182
01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:30.399
for a minute. I have plenty
of stupid questions people ask on the internet.

1183
01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:33.560
UH, if you want to go
there, we could go to UH

1184
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:39.600
the latest posts from Coast to coast
am which include what crop circles, mysterious

1185
01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:45.399
orbs being found or photographed? Excuse
me? Mostly in Central and South America?

1186
01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:48.800
What else is happening? Oh?
By the way, something strange occurred.

1187
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:53.479
And when I went to a substack
and subscribe to it, I was

1188
01:35:53.640 --> 01:36:01.000
asked to sign up for and did
sign up for Egene Carrol's substack. So

1189
01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:06.960
you are really you're really a bored
individual, aren't you? I, B

1190
01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:10.880
Pete, tell me you're not going
to be tempted by this. It is

1191
01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:16.000
an advice column. Are you ready? From Aging Carol? That's what it

1192
01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:23.680
says. I don't know if it's
really her, but it's ask Egen is

1193
01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:28.680
the substack, and I'm not gonna
give you get the guys the lake I

1194
01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:33.279
had to it came up. Weirdest
thing. There was all these crazy things

1195
01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:36.920
that I decided to sign up for
on substack, right, including one written

1196
01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:40.680
by a friend. And I said, okay, well I'm gonna, you

1197
01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:43.079
know, support my friend here,
and I signed up for it. And

1198
01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:46.319
you know how afterwards it says,
look, if you like that, you'll

1199
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:49.600
love these, sign up for these
three substacks. Right. Have you ever

1200
01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:55.279
done that? B Pete? Do
you go on substack every now and then

1201
01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:58.239
I get lost. I spend more
time. I'll see one, then I'll

1202
01:36:58.319 --> 01:37:00.800
go here, then I'll go there, and the next thing I know,

1203
01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:02.720
four hours is gone and I'm sitting
there going that's four hours. I'm not

1204
01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:05.840
getting back, right, But that's
my point. That's the way it's designed,

1205
01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:09.000
right, that you go from one
to the next to the next,

1206
01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:13.079
because there's related stuff. Let's just
say, all right, theoretically, if

1207
01:37:13.119 --> 01:37:15.680
you went over there to go look
at Jefferson Morley, all right, cause

1208
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:18.840
you're like, well, I'm into
the JFK assassination. Let's check out the

1209
01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:23.840
JFK facts guy. Right, So
you go over there. The next thing

1210
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.880
is it'll suggest to you, David
Talbot, it'll suggest to you. And

1211
01:37:28.079 --> 01:37:30.840
and I'm somehow signed up on substack. By the way, I've never written

1212
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:34.319
a single line on there, and
I've got followers, but anyway, I'm

1213
01:37:34.359 --> 01:37:39.439
thinking of starting one. Because you
get on there and the next thing you

1214
01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:44.720
know is you run through elaborate they
suggest and for every one of these things

1215
01:37:44.760 --> 01:37:45.800
you click on because you want to
read it, or you want to read

1216
01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:50.479
the free sample or whatever, they
will suggest three others. And I saw

1217
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:54.479
Egen Carroll, and I had to
do a double take. I'm like,

1218
01:37:54.520 --> 01:37:58.479
Egene Carol, what the hell is
she doing on substack? Right, it's

1219
01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:08.000
an advice column. Now, either
that's somebody else with that name, or

1220
01:38:08.439 --> 01:38:13.319
that is the eging Carol. I
don't know what. Well, just cruises.

1221
01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:16.359
See if she's got to posts about
the trial and all that, you'll

1222
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:18.560
know who you're dealing with. Well, no, because I send her an

1223
01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:21.800
email. You know it's I'm gonna
have to send her an email because it's

1224
01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:28.800
ask Egen Carol. So she takes
questions and she publishes the question and then

1225
01:38:28.880 --> 01:38:38.239
answers it. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm wondering how some people make money

1226
01:38:38.319 --> 01:38:41.640
off this crap. You know,
you look at the number of blogs,

1227
01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:45.479
and you look at the number of
podcasts, and you look at the number

1228
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:48.640
of substack and it's like, how
in the hell is there that much money

1229
01:38:48.720 --> 01:38:54.079
out there that people can be making
money off this crap. It's like YouTubers

1230
01:38:54.119 --> 01:38:59.359
and and monetization on some of their
videos. You're sitting here thinking, you

1231
01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:06.079
know, how hell this this equal
value in today's society. There's so much

1232
01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:09.840
of it out there, How the
hell can they I don't say how people

1233
01:39:09.880 --> 01:39:12.000
can make it, Well, that's
what I don't. But they do.

1234
01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:15.119
Yeah, but they're making figures some
of these people. Yes, but that's

1235
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:17.800
what happened to me in the podcast
world. BP. You got to understand

1236
01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:23.079
about Okay, when I started this
show, there was not that many of

1237
01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:29.319
us. And every month, millions
of podcasts have been launched, okay since

1238
01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:31.239
I started my show. Now,
I'm not saying that, you know,

1239
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:34.039
a lot of them lasted. Some
of them lasted ten episodes and went away,

1240
01:39:34.119 --> 01:39:38.239
some of them lasted two episodes and
went away. But there have been

1241
01:39:38.399 --> 01:39:43.159
so many launched, okay, that
there were businesses built on this. You

1242
01:39:43.239 --> 01:39:45.720
know, there's there's you know,
your real easy podcasting apps, and here's

1243
01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:50.760
your equipment, and there have been
businesses launched on this. And there is

1244
01:39:50.880 --> 01:39:56.600
a select number of people out there
that do pretty well, you know.

1245
01:39:56.720 --> 01:39:59.399
And again I point to somebody like
James Corbett who said, you know what

1246
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:03.439
I'm gonna do is I'm gonna charge
my readers a dollar one dollar a piece.

1247
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:09.680
And and I understand this formula because
if you have a fair size audience

1248
01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:14.680
and they give you a dollar each, you'll do just fine. I mean,

1249
01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:17.840
if I could transfer my audience into
giving me a dollar apiece. I

1250
01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:21.920
wouldn't have to ask for donations ever. I'd be doing just fine. I

1251
01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:29.439
would I would literally triple my income
right now. If every listener out there

1252
01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:32.479
gave me a dollar too much,
then apparently too many people have too much

1253
01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:36.920
disposable income some of the craft that
they're paying for out there and supporting.

1254
01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.439
You wonder, how, Andy,
what is it about? I mean,

1255
01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:44.039
some of these podcasts I've listened to. After five minutes, you're asleep,

1256
01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:47.600
and it's like, dude, you
know, what is it about this podcast?

1257
01:40:48.479 --> 01:40:53.640
Is it? Is it the fact
that it's so boring that it becomes

1258
01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:56.760
a meme in itself? I just
don't get it. You go just go

1259
01:40:56.880 --> 01:41:00.399
to iHeartMedia and start looking at the
number of podcasts available. Yeah, I

1260
01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:02.880
know, and it's like, how
hell did you choose one? And I'm

1261
01:41:03.079 --> 01:41:08.399
lost in the list. Right So, I'm in the top three percent of

1262
01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:14.600
news and information podcasts and I'm nowhere
near the top one hundred, the top

1263
01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:17.840
five hundred, the top one thousand, the top ten thousand. I don't

1264
01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:24.079
even break the top ten thousand.
Okay, but three percent, And that

1265
01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:27.399
tells you something, doesn't it?
But I'm in the top three percent.

1266
01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:34.920
Okay, so and I'm not.
I'm not considered a noteworthy show at all.

1267
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:40.920
You know, the the Alt Media
Awards, the Podcast Award, the

1268
01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:47.840
Podcast Awards don't even recognize this show
half most of them don't anyway. And

1269
01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:51.199
you know, it would take a
third party to it would take a listener

1270
01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:55.319
to submit me, and nobody's ever
submitted me for an award, according to

1271
01:41:55.399 --> 01:42:00.800
them. So there it is.
I mean, okay, fine, But

1272
01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:02.720
what's funny is that there are people
that yeah, if you can, I

1273
01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:06.279
mean, think about this though,
BPTE. If you could get let's just

1274
01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:12.439
say, three thousand readers or listeners
right one way or the other, and

1275
01:42:12.479 --> 01:42:15.720
each one of them gave you a
dollar a month, I mean, would

1276
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:20.319
you be happy you could? You
could live off of that, right or

1277
01:42:20.359 --> 01:42:27.840
at least? Yeah, I guess. I mean, okay, so imagine

1278
01:42:27.880 --> 01:42:31.159
this. You got ten thousand listeners
and half of them give you a dollar

1279
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:33.640
a month. Now you got five
grand a month. How about that?

1280
01:42:36.800 --> 01:42:41.640
I could do better where I'm at. Okay, you're doing better where you're

1281
01:42:41.680 --> 01:42:44.760
at, but this way, you
would be doing a podcast for a living.

1282
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:48.560
So you know, to be honest, though, should be able to

1283
01:42:48.680 --> 01:42:54.199
crank out the material to have a
successful Well, most of these people are

1284
01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:58.079
doing what two three times a week? Most of them are doing once a

1285
01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:00.319
week. I know a lot of
them have every day but you know,

1286
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:03.479
daily podcast. But a lot of
them do a couple of times a week.

1287
01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:08.600
Yeah, some of them are doing
together together. It's you know,

1288
01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:11.680
time I don't have. I can
see where it could you know, be

1289
01:43:11.920 --> 01:43:15.720
profitable if you had something to say. But the amount of clap trap out

1290
01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:23.039
there, yeah, and just pure
bull crap is amazing. It's just amazing

1291
01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:27.560
what people will listen to. Well, but that's what the yeah plumbes me.

1292
01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:30.520
It kills me. And as far
as YouTube goes, look, the

1293
01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:34.439
formula there is not have your listeners
donate, even although they have a model

1294
01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:39.359
for that right where your listeners can
sign up and then they get you know,

1295
01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:44.079
special access or you do shows just
for the chosen listeners who are signed

1296
01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:47.239
up or whatever. And yeah,
but you realize most of the people doing

1297
01:43:47.319 --> 01:43:50.479
that are doing it on a different
platform like Patreon or something like that.

1298
01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:54.560
Well, no, they can do
it right through YouTube. Number one.

1299
01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:59.000
Number two, No, you can
add commercially. The majority of the majority

1300
01:43:59.039 --> 01:44:03.479
of people that I'm seeing now have
gone over to Patreon or some other platform

1301
01:44:04.279 --> 01:44:08.560
for financing almost all of them.
Hey, you know, thank you for

1302
01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:11.520
coming to my YouTube channel, but
if you want to support the blah blah

1303
01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:15.279
blah, go to my patreon.
I mean, it's it's becoming more and

1304
01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:18.119
more. Yeah, because you know, well, just how bad YouTube sc

1305
01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:21.239
people over for a moll to go
to Patreon. Well, well you know

1306
01:44:21.359 --> 01:44:25.960
why, I'm gonna explain to you
why right now, because YouTube went to

1307
01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:29.920
a see it used to be that
they paid you something like a penny every

1308
01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:33.159
time somebody viewed your video, right
now. That was back when they were

1309
01:44:33.199 --> 01:44:39.159
paying well, when they were building
the platform. Now that it's so saturated

1310
01:44:39.239 --> 01:44:41.960
with stuff, and like you said, there's people that do stuff daily,

1311
01:44:42.119 --> 01:44:44.359
or there's people that do stuff,
you know, once or twice a week,

1312
01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:47.039
all right, and then they have
a special feature once a month just

1313
01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:51.960
for their members of their channel or
whatever. But through the commercials, they

1314
01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:56.920
pay you a fraction of a penny. So if you say, get you

1315
01:44:56.960 --> 01:45:00.800
know, a penny for three views
or five, say you get you know,

1316
01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:03.239
a fifth of a penny for a
view, and you get a million

1317
01:45:03.399 --> 01:45:10.199
views on each video you do,
and you do two a week. I

1318
01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:13.479
mean, it's not bad, you
know what I'm saying, It turns out,

1319
01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:15.159
but then they add on, Okay, you guys want to tell me

1320
01:45:15.279 --> 01:45:18.800
what usually they do Patreon or you
know, buy me a coffee or something.

1321
01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:24.840
And what they do is then they
let the listeners participate and vote.

1322
01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:27.920
Okay, you guys, tell me
what you want me to do for the

1323
01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:31.640
next review or for the next whatever. And yeah, why not? I

1324
01:45:31.680 --> 01:45:35.199
mean there's every kind of fan service. Imagine anything you could be a fan

1325
01:45:35.319 --> 01:45:39.920
of. There are fan channels for
it, right, there's you know,

1326
01:45:40.039 --> 01:45:45.119
breakdowns on movies, breakdowns on TV
shows, breakdowns on toys, on products,

1327
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:47.720
on you know, think about it
bum line. Bob does that thing

1328
01:45:47.880 --> 01:45:54.399
with Uncle and Aaron. But his
whole thing is I buy cheap booze and

1329
01:45:54.560 --> 01:45:57.239
I tell you about it and I
drink it and I tell you what it's

1330
01:45:57.319 --> 01:45:59.640
like and I show you the can
and I tell you it's a good thing

1331
01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:01.960
to get. This is a limited
edition. They came out with a new

1332
01:46:02.039 --> 01:46:09.680
flavor. And that's all he does. Right, Why not? There are

1333
01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:13.840
enough viewers? Apparently, there are
so many people watching so many different things

1334
01:46:13.880 --> 01:46:17.880
and listening to so many different things. Yeah, there is support, but

1335
01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:21.840
also you drown in the sea,
you know, I mean, how many

1336
01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:28.479
of these news talk shows are there? There are thousands that are out there,

1337
01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:30.600
and there's you know, one hundred
new ones a week at least.

1338
01:46:32.319 --> 01:46:36.000
Anyway, you want to read the
stats and stuff on pod. But heyway

1339
01:46:36.079 --> 01:46:40.399
back to this Egen Carroll thing.
Ask Egen Carrol. So I got the

1340
01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:45.039
latest one in my out of my
email here randomly pulled, guys, This

1341
01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:50.640
is a ask Egen Carroll question.
One of the first things that go when

1342
01:46:50.680 --> 01:46:56.760
a democracy begins crumbling? Are women's
rights? Women? Okay? With an

1343
01:46:56.800 --> 01:47:00.199
exclamation point? Are we actually gonna
let this go on happening? Are we

1344
01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:04.479
gonna stand up? Question mark?
Will we protect our rights over our own

1345
01:47:04.600 --> 01:47:12.720
bodies in November? Question mark?
Or succumb like adults? This is a

1346
01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:16.760
question to eg and Carrol. Her
answer, we have a lot to do.

1347
01:47:17.159 --> 01:47:23.880
Brave and beauteous, beauteous, b
e A U T e O us

1348
01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:29.760
reader exclamation point. And meanwhile,
I am deep, deep, deep into

1349
01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:33.640
your brilliant and moving eighty one word
memoirs, and I will report soon.

1350
01:47:35.800 --> 01:47:45.319
Ask Egen Carroll is a reader supported
publication to receive new posts. You think

1351
01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:50.399
that's the e gen Carroll pp.
Yeah, sounds about like it. Okay,

1352
01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:55.960
I was just checking seriously, it
does. It sounds exactly what I

1353
01:47:56.119 --> 01:48:04.239
respect to say. It's like a
verbal fart. Okay, by the way,

1354
01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:08.000
was that even a question? Wait? There was a question in there,

1355
01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:12.960
right? Let me just double check
that right where these middle aged white

1356
01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:15.560
women, the liberal white women,
got nothing else to do but send questions

1357
01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:18.760
to E. G. Carroll.
If you find out that your wife has

1358
01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:21.000
sent a question to E. G. Carroll, you need to find her

1359
01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:28.520
a job or something to keep her
occupied. Yeah, okay, are we

1360
01:48:28.640 --> 01:48:32.600
going to actually let this go on
happening? Double question mark? Are we

1361
01:48:32.680 --> 01:48:36.479
going to stand up? Question mark? Will we protect our rights over our

1362
01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:41.640
own bodies in November? Question mark? Or circumb like doults? I guess

1363
01:48:41.720 --> 01:48:44.359
that is a what do you call
that when you add on to a question?

1364
01:48:45.119 --> 01:48:48.399
I forget anyway, So yeah,
I guess there was multiple questions in

1365
01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:55.119
that question to ask Egen Carroll?
And how many answers were there in the

1366
01:48:55.199 --> 01:49:00.319
reply to one? I'll get you
later. We have a lot to do.

1367
01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:06.439
Brave and beauteous reader? Is beauteous
a word? Yes? Beauteous is

1368
01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:10.239
a word, because I tried to
say beautymus was a word one time and

1369
01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:15.119
I got shot down. Okay,
but beauteous is a word. Yes,

1370
01:49:15.439 --> 01:49:18.000
it seems like one of those made
up words. Let me say it's one

1371
01:49:18.039 --> 01:49:23.000
of those words that people use to
sound pretentious because they are pretentious and they're

1372
01:49:23.039 --> 01:49:29.800
pricks. Okay, beauteous, Okay, yes, there is a dictionary definition,

1373
01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:35.479
but there's beauteous literary beautiful, the
beauteous bride. Why not just say

1374
01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:42.880
beautiful dumbassy, because that doesn't make
you sound pretentious and like a prick.

1375
01:49:44.840 --> 01:49:50.319
Beauteous. I gotta use that.
I gotta use that just to see the

1376
01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:56.239
look on people's faces. In South
Make and Georgia. That's rather beauteous.

1377
01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:00.680
I want to see if somebody smacks
me in the freaking mouth for that.

1378
01:50:01.159 --> 01:50:05.520
It's no worse than me using the
expression fixing to in a clothing store in

1379
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:09.680
New York City and the person look
at me like I'm speaking a foreign language,

1380
01:50:10.359 --> 01:50:13.279
and my wife had to lean over
and go, that means he's getting

1381
01:50:13.359 --> 01:50:16.359
ready to do it. Yes,
you needed to translate that in New York.

1382
01:50:16.479 --> 01:50:24.800
Yes, I was kidding. Trying
on a coat. If we walked

1383
01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:27.319
in this store, they had they
had coats on. You know, I

1384
01:50:27.359 --> 01:50:29.920
had all their coats were on sales, so I walked on. I was

1385
01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:33.039
looking for a jacket, something lightweight
that we could take for walking around Manhattan.

1386
01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:35.359
But you know, if you took
it off and get tied around the

1387
01:50:35.399 --> 01:50:39.000
waist or something, you didn't have
this big, heavy coat. So I'm

1388
01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:41.960
trying on this jacket. The guy
comes over and says, now, we've

1389
01:50:41.960 --> 01:50:45.039
got some other styles up at the
front of the store that are also on

1390
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:47.079
sale. And I said, yeah, I'm fixing to go try them on,

1391
01:50:47.319 --> 01:50:50.560
and he looked at me. My
wife over, he says, she

1392
01:50:50.680 --> 01:50:55.960
said six and two. That means
he's about to go and try them on.

1393
01:50:57.239 --> 01:51:00.279
Yeah, So we walked outside.
Wait, now we get done.

1394
01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:02.279
We walk outside. I bought the
coat. It was a nice jacket.

1395
01:51:02.399 --> 01:51:08.279
I love it. We walk outside. We're standing there and while I'm looking

1396
01:51:08.560 --> 01:51:13.319
to the left, my wife on
my right side elbows me and starts pointing

1397
01:51:13.560 --> 01:51:15.960
to the right. And I look
and there's a cart on the corner and

1398
01:51:16.079 --> 01:51:24.159
the guy is selling roasted ears of
corn, which are sold by the dozens

1399
01:51:24.399 --> 01:51:29.039
in downtown Manhattan every day and these
people are standing there, not on corn

1400
01:51:29.279 --> 01:51:32.560
on the street corners. He goes, and they think we're Higgs. We

1401
01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:41.399
turn walked off. I'll tell you
some I can imagine that scene and absolutely

1402
01:51:41.479 --> 01:51:44.119
believe your story. And then that
is not made up. I'm sure.

1403
01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:46.520
I'll tell you that. I laughed, she says, and they think we're

1404
01:51:46.600 --> 01:51:53.399
Higgs. Yeah. Well, the
weirdest thing to me was, look,

1405
01:51:53.640 --> 01:51:56.960
the fixing to thing. I got
exposed to that when I started talking to

1406
01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:01.760
people from Louisiana, and I mean
that was like there was a bunch of

1407
01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:06.920
sayings like fixing to that I got
used to. And then I moved to

1408
01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:15.399
North Carolina, and uh, I
had to learn a new translation for something

1409
01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:17.600
that I thought I knew what it
meant and I didn't. And that was

1410
01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:24.319
this whole blessed bless their heart deal, Oh bless your bless his heart.

1411
01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:30.319
Yeah, bless his heart. And
I'm going, okay, because I assumed,

1412
01:52:30.520 --> 01:52:34.119
stupidly, because I'm from Jersey,
I assumed that means, you know,

1413
01:52:34.399 --> 01:52:38.720
just like the the good God thing
here, you know where it's like,

1414
01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:42.920
okay, so you're just throwing blessings, have a blessed day. Uh,

1415
01:52:43.279 --> 01:52:45.199
you know, I bet you hear
stuff like that out of people in

1416
01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:49.479
the South. Uh. And women
will call you a sug on occasion,

1417
01:52:49.800 --> 01:52:56.119
right, and I go or hun
and they don't mean a damn thing by

1418
01:52:56.199 --> 01:53:00.800
it. It's just it's a nicety. And so I thought to myself,

1419
01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:02.920
well, that's just a nicety,
that's just you know, well, you

1420
01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:09.039
know, bless you, which I
had heard in ecumenical circles, right,

1421
01:53:09.119 --> 01:53:12.039
people who were of the cloth one
way or another would just, you know,

1422
01:53:12.159 --> 01:53:15.800
simply throw out a blessing to somebody
randomly because they just were struck by

1423
01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:18.439
the urge to throw it at them. They felt like they could use it,

1424
01:53:18.520 --> 01:53:21.600
and even if they couldn't, they
could still use a blessing. And

1425
01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:25.199
so it was just a feel good
sort of thing. And when I heard

1426
01:53:25.279 --> 01:53:29.159
bless your heart, I thought,
oh, that's just a like, will

1427
01:53:29.199 --> 01:53:32.520
bless you my child. You know, something good just happened, and even

1428
01:53:32.560 --> 01:53:34.600
if it didn't, I want you
to feel good, So I'm gonna make

1429
01:53:34.640 --> 01:53:40.920
you feel good. And then I
found out that it actually means if you

1430
01:53:41.039 --> 01:53:44.279
had tournative trucks in Jersey, you'd
have just fallen off one. Yeah.

1431
01:53:44.399 --> 01:53:47.640
Well, it was about six months
after I moved to North Carolina, and

1432
01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:54.520
I went, huh and I heard
this statement and it went in my ear

1433
01:53:54.600 --> 01:53:59.319
and I went, but this guy
that you're talking about is a freaking moron.

1434
01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:05.880
Why does her? Why are you
blessing this moron? And uh?

1435
01:54:06.239 --> 01:54:10.520
And and the lady looked at me
and she smiled real big, and she

1436
01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:14.279
went, oh, you don't know
what that means. And I said,

1437
01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:19.520
no, I don't you know.
Yeah, And so apparently I had to

1438
01:54:19.560 --> 01:54:24.199
be educated that this basically means.
No, that's that's a freaking moron.

1439
01:54:24.520 --> 01:54:27.720
Bless his heart because he ain't got
no brains, basically, she said to

1440
01:54:27.800 --> 01:54:33.720
me. I said, oh,
damn, you know so. But fix

1441
01:54:33.960 --> 01:54:40.079
is just a very polite It's just
a very polite way of saying, may

1442
01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:45.000
God bless you because you are too
stick to make it on your own.

1443
01:54:45.399 --> 01:54:47.159
Yeah, pretty much. That that
was the other way it was explained to

1444
01:54:47.199 --> 01:54:49.079
me. But like I told you, the first way, it was like,

1445
01:54:49.239 --> 01:54:53.359
well, you gotta bless their heart
because they got no brain. And

1446
01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:56.399
I said, oh, okay.
So in other words, in Jersey we

1447
01:54:56.600 --> 01:55:00.239
just go, what are you freaking
stupid? I mean that that that's what

1448
01:55:00.319 --> 01:55:04.319
we would say. But here,
bless his heart, Okay, that does

1449
01:55:04.439 --> 01:55:08.560
sound more polite, all right,
I can go with it. It's that

1450
01:55:08.760 --> 01:55:15.279
it's that genteel mindset of the South, you know, oh, the the

1451
01:55:15.560 --> 01:55:21.279
the the genteel side of being a
Southerner, that politeness, well exactly could.

1452
01:55:21.279 --> 01:55:25.199
It's it's what was the old saying? Is? What was it?

1453
01:55:26.520 --> 01:55:29.720
What was the saying? Something about
somebody wanting directions to hell? And you

1454
01:55:29.840 --> 01:55:32.439
show them how you know, actors
being able to tell somebody to go to

1455
01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:38.680
hell, and then you know,
enjoy the be sould. I forget how

1456
01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:40.760
it goes, but that's the way
the South is. You know, they

1457
01:55:40.880 --> 01:55:43.479
just came up with polite ways to
say you're a dumb ass. Yeah,

1458
01:55:43.600 --> 01:55:45.359
that's a real polite way to say
you're a dumb ass, exactly like I

1459
01:55:45.399 --> 01:55:48.000
said. In Jersey wouldn't be polite
at all. It would be the question

1460
01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:51.520
that that that's that's that's how we
do it. In Jersey. You ask

1461
01:55:51.640 --> 01:55:59.479
the question that's clearly rhetorical. What
are you stupid? Have you lost your

1462
01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:04.199
mind? These are the questions you
asked, which is a rhetorical question.

1463
01:56:04.479 --> 01:56:10.079
It means obviously you're nuts, Obviously
you stupid. Uh, And that's about

1464
01:56:10.079 --> 01:56:13.159
as polite as a gets but down
here. No, there's that, and

1465
01:56:13.239 --> 01:56:16.960
then there's also uh oh man,
I was just thinking of this a minute

1466
01:56:16.960 --> 01:56:19.000
ago, and now I lost it. But it was something else that's like

1467
01:56:19.119 --> 01:56:25.720
super polite. Uh that that goes. Oh the other thing. I also

1468
01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:29.800
never in my life, until I
was in North Carolina got called mister chuck

1469
01:56:30.199 --> 01:56:35.039
because that confused me as well.
It was like mister chuck, mister chuck,

1470
01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:41.680
mister chuck. That's you know,
I've tried to When I was little,

1471
01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:45.399
we lived in New Orleans and my
dad knew a guy in the Navy,

1472
01:56:45.479 --> 01:56:46.800
and when my dad got out,
eventually we went to New Orleans.

1473
01:56:46.880 --> 01:56:49.960
He started working with this guy to
a printing factory. In fact, it

1474
01:56:50.079 --> 01:56:56.880
was the company they printed lifting te
boxes and perhaps blue ribbon cats. Oh

1475
01:56:56.960 --> 01:56:59.439
perfect. Yeah. So he was
one of the mechanics, you know,

1476
01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:03.800
helping up print and presses and things
like that. And his kids always called

1477
01:57:03.880 --> 01:57:09.960
my mom and dad mister So and
mister Bob and miss Ellen. Okay,

1478
01:57:10.279 --> 01:57:13.720
so, I mean that's the way
they always mister Bob. You know,

1479
01:57:14.319 --> 01:57:15.960
they would ask him a question.
Well, we were always taught to call

1480
01:57:16.079 --> 01:57:19.640
somebody by their last name mister so
and so, you know, mister Smith,

1481
01:57:20.079 --> 01:57:24.600
not mister Joe. Yeah. I
don't know where it came from,

1482
01:57:25.880 --> 01:57:29.319
but it's a thing now. But
even at work today, now, some

1483
01:57:29.479 --> 01:57:32.239
of these work crews, the younger
guys, you know, these guys have

1484
01:57:32.319 --> 01:57:35.560
been running equipment all their life out
there on the farm. They come to

1485
01:57:35.640 --> 01:57:40.439
work for these contractors and they'll do
the same thing. They'll call me mister

1486
01:57:40.520 --> 01:57:43.560
by my first name. Is just
a habit, and I don't know where

1487
01:57:43.600 --> 01:57:46.880
it originated. But if you're in
the South and you're around a group of

1488
01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:50.720
people, somebody's going to call you
mister your first name, yeah, or

1489
01:57:51.239 --> 01:57:56.399
miss just a thing, or even
miss or missus because they do that to

1490
01:57:56.479 --> 01:58:00.319
Kim miss Kim, and I go, miss Keil, Why is she miss

1491
01:58:00.439 --> 01:58:03.640
Kim? But she's miss Kim pets. I don't know where it came from,

1492
01:58:03.760 --> 01:58:08.039
don't know the origin of it,
but if you're in North Carolina,

1493
01:58:08.079 --> 01:58:10.800
you're gonna hear it and it'll throw
you off the first time here, you

1494
01:58:10.840 --> 01:58:13.520
know, you think about it,
well, yeah, that was mister Smith

1495
01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:16.079
and he runs, why there,
mister Bob. You know, it's just

1496
01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:19.720
it rolls off the tongue. It's
a standard thing. Now. I did

1497
01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:23.279
a double take because I was like, what did you just call me?

1498
01:58:23.479 --> 01:58:26.079
Because I heard, you know,
I heard Chuck in there, but I

1499
01:58:26.119 --> 01:58:30.720
heard something else, and I was
like, what mister Chuck? Okay,

1500
01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:34.439
what is miss mister Jack? You
can be you can be sixty eight years

1501
01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:39.880
old and married four times, they're
still gonna call you miss Ellen yeah,

1502
01:58:40.039 --> 01:58:42.920
or miss Mary. See the first
place I saw that, now that this

1503
01:58:43.079 --> 01:58:45.760
is gonna sound crazy too, I
think it was on the TV show Dallas,

1504
01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:48.520
wasn't it wasn't there somebody on there? They called her miss whatever and

1505
01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:53.279
her first name and that was like
the whole way they refer miss Ellie,

1506
01:58:53.399 --> 01:58:57.680
right, and Ellie was her first
name, and her last name was Ewing

1507
01:58:57.840 --> 01:59:00.600
because she was part of the Ewing
oil thing, and she was miss Ellie.

1508
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:02.960
That's the first place I ever heard
of it. But I just thought

1509
01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:06.439
it was a quirky thing on the
TV show. And like I said,

1510
01:59:06.439 --> 01:59:10.640
I never heard it before until I
lived in North Carolina for a while and

1511
01:59:10.720 --> 01:59:13.319
I went where the hell did that
come from? And it's continued on as

1512
01:59:13.359 --> 01:59:17.119
I've gone into the South. In
every state, it seems like you are

1513
01:59:17.439 --> 01:59:21.119
mister or miss first name, it's
her first name. That's just the way,

1514
01:59:21.439 --> 01:59:26.720
like I'm mister Chuck. And you
know, it's one thing when kids

1515
01:59:26.800 --> 01:59:29.039
do that to you, because it's
like, okay, well maybe they never

1516
01:59:29.119 --> 01:59:31.720
heard my last name, you think, right, and they got mister chuck.

1517
01:59:32.880 --> 01:59:36.039
But no, they will call you
that. And I always thought that

1518
01:59:36.319 --> 01:59:41.680
that was like and they're being polite. I always thought it was polite if

1519
01:59:41.680 --> 01:59:45.079
you called somebody, you know mister
or miss their last name. I think

1520
01:59:45.159 --> 01:59:50.399
it's I think it's also a respect
thing. I mean they really, I

1521
01:59:50.439 --> 01:59:56.319
mean item was growing up, but
down south, you see it apply,

1522
01:59:57.079 --> 02:00:00.640
right, It's a way to be
respectful for someone. I mean. And

1523
02:00:00.800 --> 02:00:02.800
usually you call somebody by their first
name like that. It's somebody that you

1524
02:00:02.960 --> 02:00:08.359
know, you're around, you're familiar
with, you work with, their hanging

1525
02:00:08.359 --> 02:00:12.439
around your family. You know,
it's somebody you've got to be close enough

1526
02:00:12.439 --> 02:00:14.640
to be able to call them by
the first name. But you always put

1527
02:00:14.680 --> 02:00:18.239
the mister or miss in front of
it. It's like the people. So

1528
02:00:18.359 --> 02:00:25.079
it's like familiarity but with respect.
Yeah, all right, So like Frankie's

1529
02:00:25.119 --> 02:00:28.920
friends, they all will call me
when when when he has friends over what,

1530
02:00:29.920 --> 02:00:34.760
I am mister Chuck. That's right
because respect by calling you mister.

1531
02:00:35.039 --> 02:00:38.079
Okay, but they put you,
you know what, they call you by

1532
02:00:38.159 --> 02:00:42.520
your common name. It's it's just
it's just a way of being polite and

1533
02:00:42.560 --> 02:00:45.880
respectful to elders. Well, okay, fair, See Now, when I

1534
02:00:46.039 --> 02:00:49.000
was a kid, though, it
would not have been acceptable to even use

1535
02:00:49.079 --> 02:00:53.119
the adult's first name, right well, you would have called him mister.

1536
02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:56.359
I would have been mister Olly in
that case, right, excuse me,

1537
02:00:56.720 --> 02:00:58.960
you know, and I had to
learn that, you know, as you

1538
02:00:58.960 --> 02:01:01.239
can believe me, as a kid, second you meet somebody's mom, you

1539
02:01:01.279 --> 02:01:04.239
would you would say, you know, we'll miss this. And of course,

1540
02:01:04.279 --> 02:01:06.439
in the generation I grew up in
a lot of times they'd be like,

1541
02:01:06.479 --> 02:01:09.159
oh no, no, no,
my last name is different than this,

1542
02:01:09.880 --> 02:01:12.119
or you know, my last name
is different than your friends here.

1543
02:01:12.199 --> 02:01:16.239
I'm actually, you know, maybe
that's how that got started because of the

1544
02:01:16.319 --> 02:01:19.119
divorce rate. What do you think
of that? Is that the possiblity?

1545
02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:27.159
No, because it's usually more of
a it's a it's a it's a young

1546
02:01:27.600 --> 02:01:31.800
elderly thing. Like on the job
site, the guys that are my age

1547
02:01:31.920 --> 02:01:34.720
that work for these other companies,
we all call each other by our first

1548
02:01:34.840 --> 02:01:38.640
name. It's just the younger crowd. It's the way they're brought up.

1549
02:01:38.960 --> 02:01:43.640
The younger they show respect. Yeah, you don't. You don't hear from

1550
02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:46.520
people your own age. It's always
the you know, the guys in their

1551
02:01:46.560 --> 02:01:50.600
twenties are below that refer to guys
in their forties are above as mister as

1552
02:01:51.079 --> 02:01:55.399
right, what their first name?
Okay, that makes sense, But it's

1553
02:01:55.479 --> 02:02:00.039
weird with with women because it's different. Right, women, you could be

1554
02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:06.119
miss whatever, just it would be
miss whatever, no matter how old you

1555
02:02:06.239 --> 02:02:10.960
are. Yeah, right, okay, so I am catching this all right.

1556
02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:13.640
We at least I understand the rules, but I still don't know where

1557
02:02:13.680 --> 02:02:15.960
it came from. But it was
not a thing, do I. Yeah,

1558
02:02:16.479 --> 02:02:18.960
it wasn't a thing when I was
growing up though when I was,

1559
02:02:19.079 --> 02:02:21.079
I swear to you, when I
was growing up, it would have been

1560
02:02:21.319 --> 02:02:26.319
unacceptable for somebody, you know,
for a kid, but mister chuck.

1561
02:02:26.600 --> 02:02:28.760
It would have been no mister chuck. It would have been no chuck about

1562
02:02:28.760 --> 02:02:32.159
it would be the thing. Though
I was, you know, I was

1563
02:02:32.239 --> 02:02:35.520
brought up, and I never heard
it until we moved to North Carolina.

1564
02:02:36.159 --> 02:02:42.359
Although my mom was from North Carolina
and her family, we didn't you never

1565
02:02:42.520 --> 02:02:45.279
were in a position to hear it
unless you lived here, okay, because

1566
02:02:45.319 --> 02:02:49.399
it's just a common, everyday thing. But like my mom taught us,

1567
02:02:49.760 --> 02:02:55.239
you refer to him as mister mister
O'Kelly, not mister Chuck. Right.

1568
02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:58.399
It was only when we moved to
New Orleans, and I mean like the

1569
02:02:58.439 --> 02:03:00.880
first and second grade, and I
finally went, yeah, how come he

1570
02:03:00.000 --> 02:03:02.840
called you mister Bob and I got
to call him mister to and Zoe.

1571
02:03:04.079 --> 02:03:08.520
He's explaining, it's just a Southern
thing, so it's something you get used

1572
02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:12.199
to. But I never heard it
anywhere else. So we lived east coast,

1573
02:03:12.279 --> 02:03:15.159
West coast, and the middle of
the wild call it midwest, but

1574
02:03:15.479 --> 02:03:19.000
Utah, Colorado, you know that
area there. Never heard it anywhere else

1575
02:03:19.039 --> 02:03:24.159
except here in North Carolina. Yeah, but it's it's a thing. It's

1576
02:03:24.199 --> 02:03:28.199
definitely why and it's a thing in
Georgia, I assure you, uh,

1577
02:03:29.319 --> 02:03:31.319
you know, because I am mister
Chuck all of a sudden, and I'm

1578
02:03:31.399 --> 02:03:35.079
like, wow, how did that
happen? Anyways, I know that that's

1579
02:03:35.119 --> 02:03:41.439
one of those like redundant sort of
kind of conversations. But why not,

1580
02:03:41.640 --> 02:03:45.600
let's explore the language. Let's explore
anything you got any other news you want

1581
02:03:45.600 --> 02:03:48.399
to bring up or anything. B
Pete. No, I was just looking

1582
02:03:48.439 --> 02:03:51.840
through some headlines. There's really a
whole lot going on other than little piddley

1583
02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:56.880
stuff that's not even really hardly worth
mentioning it. But right, yeah,

1584
02:03:57.000 --> 02:04:00.680
unemployments up now to a ten month
high. We're starting to see the effects

1585
02:04:00.760 --> 02:04:06.279
of some of the economic policies you
know, that are catching up with us.

1586
02:04:06.359 --> 02:04:11.119
And inflation went up another three percent
last quarter. Oh no, no,

1587
02:04:12.640 --> 02:04:15.319
it was. It was high when
when Biden came in, but it's

1588
02:04:15.399 --> 02:04:17.399
you know, even higher now.
Well, the economy is doing well.

1589
02:04:17.520 --> 02:04:20.119
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait, everybody's telling me the economy

1590
02:04:20.199 --> 02:04:24.000
is doing well, be Pete.
It's well, it's it's fine, it's

1591
02:04:24.039 --> 02:04:27.079
getting healthy, everything's eating up.
It's good. Yes, that's why.

1592
02:04:27.319 --> 02:04:31.199
That's that's why twenty five percent of
the population skips meals now because they can't

1593
02:04:31.199 --> 02:04:34.039
afford them. Yeah, yeah,
economy is doing great. Yeah, but

1594
02:04:34.199 --> 02:04:39.319
according to all of our media,
the economy is doing very well. Be

1595
02:04:39.479 --> 02:04:42.920
Pete, what's wrong with you?
Uh? I mean that's why I've heard

1596
02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:46.199
some Wait a minute now, some
office I forget who it was. Was

1597
02:04:46.239 --> 02:04:49.239
it the Fed? Yes, it
was the Fed? This last time.

1598
02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:55.880
Some Vickering was coming out from behind
the scenes or something where they were accusing

1599
02:04:56.079 --> 02:05:00.439
the Biden administration of pad and the
unemployment numbers and that they're not legit.

1600
02:05:01.479 --> 02:05:05.199
So if they're at a ten month
high, and you factory in those that

1601
02:05:05.319 --> 02:05:10.359
have gotten out of the workplace,
most of these new jobs at it or

1602
02:05:10.399 --> 02:05:15.359
people taking second and third jobs,
or their jobs are being given to illegal

1603
02:05:15.399 --> 02:05:20.159
immigrants, and you know, white
people ain't working and that's ticking people off.

1604
02:05:20.319 --> 02:05:26.960
So no, you had economies just
where the Libs want it to be.

1605
02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:30.960
I see, all right, so
this is where it should be where

1606
02:05:30.359 --> 02:05:34.880
Quite frankly, I don't know anybody
who can actually afford. You know,

1607
02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:40.199
the only good news about any of
that nonsense, in my mind is that

1608
02:05:40.920 --> 02:05:45.039
you know, some people are going
to maybe slim down a little because everywhere

1609
02:05:45.119 --> 02:05:48.399
I was going for a long time. It's a discussion. I heard the

1610
02:05:48.520 --> 02:05:51.720
other day somebody brought that up,
and where was it, I don't know.

1611
02:05:51.880 --> 02:05:55.000
They made the comment, well,
the people are eating less, won't

1612
02:05:55.039 --> 02:05:59.119
that help the obesity problem? When
are we going to see the Biden administration

1613
02:05:59.319 --> 02:06:03.119
taking credit for obesity going down a
year because people can't eat? Right?

1614
02:06:03.560 --> 02:06:06.760
That's what I'm waiting on because that's
about where this is going to go.

1615
02:06:06.840 --> 02:06:11.560
Well, at least you're not obese
anymore because you're hungry. I mean,

1616
02:06:11.800 --> 02:06:14.840
well, look, and the fact
is that's not going to work. And

1617
02:06:14.880 --> 02:06:16.720
I'll tell you why it's not going
to work is because the only food anybody

1618
02:06:16.720 --> 02:06:20.439
can afford is crap now, So
we're all gonna eat crap. We're all

1619
02:06:20.520 --> 02:06:26.399
going to be fat and also at
the same time nutritionally deprived. So if

1620
02:06:26.439 --> 02:06:30.079
he is, though, we can't
afford the crap anymore. We've gone from

1621
02:06:30.279 --> 02:06:35.039
the from the McDonald's dollar menu to
ramen noodles, right, there's no in

1622
02:06:35.239 --> 02:06:39.840
between. When when all of these
fast food companies have to come up with,

1623
02:06:40.319 --> 02:06:43.000
okay, we've got to do something
to be able to bring back the

1624
02:06:43.159 --> 02:06:46.159
five dollars meal, It's like,
dude, what could you possibly put in

1625
02:06:46.239 --> 02:06:51.560
a five dollars meal? It's going
to be worth eating because you're basic,

1626
02:06:53.399 --> 02:06:57.680
Well, you're basic cheese or hamburger, fry and a drink who we used

1627
02:06:57.720 --> 02:07:01.119
to get for under a dollar,
all three items together with tax under a

1628
02:07:01.199 --> 02:07:06.199
dollar. Now it's going to cost
you eight or nine bucks. In most

1629
02:07:08.399 --> 02:07:11.239
municipalities, at a minimum, eight
or nine dollars. See for me,

1630
02:07:11.279 --> 02:07:13.199
what are you going to put it
in there? Just worth five bucks?

1631
02:07:13.359 --> 02:07:17.239
Yeah right, good good chicken nuggets
and a six ounce drink. You know

1632
02:07:17.319 --> 02:07:19.439
what I think? God, you
know what I think they're gonna start doing,

1633
02:07:19.479 --> 02:07:24.439
because now they've got like these little
mini pizza cupcakes, you know that

1634
02:07:24.520 --> 02:07:28.039
they're trying to sell. One of
the chain is doing that. I think

1635
02:07:28.079 --> 02:07:30.239
the next thing they're going to do
is be like, you know what we

1636
02:07:30.279 --> 02:07:34.640
should do. Everybody just eat dressed
up French fries and that's it. Like

1637
02:07:35.239 --> 02:07:39.520
it'll be that'll be your your your
five dollars meal. We got five dollars

1638
02:07:39.560 --> 02:07:43.840
worth of French fries for you,
and maybe disco fries will be sold at

1639
02:07:43.880 --> 02:07:46.239
the McDonald's now right hey, we
put gravy and cheese on them. It's

1640
02:07:46.319 --> 02:07:50.640
a whole meal right there. Yeah, gone are those days. I mean

1641
02:07:50.800 --> 02:07:54.960
those were a dollar ninety nine and
two ninety nine. Those meals you're talking

1642
02:07:54.960 --> 02:07:58.239
about for a dollar. I remember
those at two ninety nine. Across the

1643
02:07:58.319 --> 02:08:01.720
board, you know, you either
got two or you got a big sandwich

1644
02:08:01.840 --> 02:08:07.239
and a fry and a drink two
ninety nine. Then they started reducing the

1645
02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:09.880
sizes and then they said, well, look, we'll offer you the giant

1646
02:08:09.000 --> 02:08:13.439
size, but you got to pay
a couple dollars more. And that was

1647
02:08:13.560 --> 02:08:18.319
fine. But now if you and
I go and try and eat for less

1648
02:08:18.319 --> 02:08:20.800
than twenty dollars at Burger King,
we got a hard time. A twenty

1649
02:08:20.840 --> 02:08:24.239
dollar bill, don't make it,
didn't hang it up. I went to

1650
02:08:24.479 --> 02:08:26.680
McDonald's. Let's see, I stopped. Was it last week? I got?

1651
02:08:28.880 --> 02:08:33.000
What the hell did I get?
I got like a two mcdouble's meal

1652
02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:39.439
and didn't upsize anything. I spent
seventeen dollars, and I thought, if

1653
02:08:39.479 --> 02:08:43.720
I'm gonna spend seventeen dollars at McDonald's, I'm gonna go spend twenty two and

1654
02:08:43.800 --> 02:08:46.920
get a damn steak. To hell
with this? Yeah, I mean,

1655
02:08:46.920 --> 02:08:48.680
if I'm gonna spend that much at
lunch, I'm gonna sit down and have

1656
02:08:48.720 --> 02:08:54.239
a damn steak, salad, baked
potato, and drink and get out of

1657
02:08:54.279 --> 02:08:56.880
there for twenty two bucks. You
want to hell of them off? Better?

1658
02:08:56.920 --> 02:09:00.960
Pick? Yeah? No, you
might as well. It makes no

1659
02:09:01.279 --> 02:09:07.399
sense you know at this point,
I look, I get it, everything

1660
02:09:07.560 --> 02:09:09.760
is up, and God help you
don't ask for bacon or cheese. But

1661
02:09:11.560 --> 02:09:16.039
still one would think that there would
still be some middle of the road,

1662
02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:20.880
But like you said, no,
it's either the overpriced Ramen or the overpriced

1663
02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:24.199
you know, you want an actual
meal, good try it, you know.

1664
02:09:26.359 --> 02:09:30.079
I just I've yet to see anything
come down. You know, I

1665
02:09:30.239 --> 02:09:35.239
used to use the old pizza index
for inflation at food line, and it's

1666
02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:39.720
gotten so out of whack that it's
not even a good indicator anymore. You

1667
02:09:39.800 --> 02:09:46.359
used to get three like it was
either Red Barren or Tombstone, one or

1668
02:09:46.439 --> 02:09:50.720
the other was on sale every weekend, and you'd get three for ten bucks.

1669
02:09:50.960 --> 02:09:54.079
Yeah, okay, then it went
up to like three for twelve bucks.

1670
02:09:54.359 --> 02:09:58.239
Right now it's like two for nine
bucks or two for ten bucks.

1671
02:10:00.039 --> 02:10:05.359
Dinky old twelve inch pizza. So
a good example is Speedway, which you

1672
02:10:05.439 --> 02:10:11.760
and I stopped at a couple going
to Dallas, and they usually have pizza

1673
02:10:11.800 --> 02:10:15.840
deals and things like that. Used
to get a whole pizza for six bucks

1674
02:10:16.279 --> 02:10:20.359
and it was a decent pizza.
Then the price went up to seven bucks.

1675
02:10:20.880 --> 02:10:24.000
Right then they went up to nine
bucks. Now they have a special

1676
02:10:24.079 --> 02:10:26.800
pepperoni pizza with an adig meat on
top of it. You're gonna pay over

1677
02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:31.439
ten dollars for that pizza that you
used to get for six bucks not six

1678
02:10:31.560 --> 02:10:35.720
months ago, right, and no
drink. It's ridiculous, and no drink

1679
02:10:35.760 --> 02:10:37.199
or anything. No drink. See. That's the other funny thing is those

1680
02:10:37.319 --> 02:10:41.119
mcdoubles. Right, a little while
ago they were a buck and then they

1681
02:10:41.159 --> 02:10:46.199
were a buck twenty nine. Yeah, and now it's buy one, get

1682
02:10:46.279 --> 02:10:48.680
one for a buck. Yeah.
You spend your three p fifty initially just

1683
02:10:48.720 --> 02:10:52.760
to get the second one for a
dollar you're paying, you know, comes

1684
02:10:52.800 --> 02:10:56.039
out you're paying two twenty five each
for what used to be a dollar.

1685
02:10:56.439 --> 02:11:03.159
Right, So everything has doubled except
guess what your wages? Right, I

1686
02:11:03.239 --> 02:11:07.520
mean, that's the only thing that
hasn't doubled unless I'm crazy, and you

1687
02:11:07.600 --> 02:11:09.520
know, well, you know,
it was funny right after COVID when when

1688
02:11:09.600 --> 02:11:15.159
people were going back to work and
could pretty much name their price, and

1689
02:11:15.279 --> 02:11:18.279
people, i mean companies were dying
for employees to come back. So it

1690
02:11:18.399 --> 02:11:22.760
was great for the worker. You're
going to see wages rise. And it's

1691
02:11:22.880 --> 02:11:26.039
like, yeah, but late six
months, all this money that they threw

1692
02:11:26.079 --> 02:11:30.439
out here during COVID's getting ready to
start circulating, and what's that going to

1693
02:11:30.520 --> 02:11:33.479
do? Is going to throw inflation
through the roof. Now where you were

1694
02:11:33.560 --> 02:11:37.880
up maybe two or three percent,
now you're back twenty four percent. Well,

1695
02:11:37.920 --> 02:11:43.159
and the other thing is they they
fired, one way or another,

1696
02:11:43.600 --> 02:11:48.520
all of those service workers pretty much
that they brought in at the higher price,

1697
02:11:48.920 --> 02:11:52.560
and now they've scaled back. See
they brought them up to fifteen eighteen

1698
02:11:52.640 --> 02:11:58.520
dollars an hour in some places,
right, and now they've found ways to

1699
02:11:58.560 --> 02:12:01.920
get rid of those workers, you
know, change them out and bring in

1700
02:12:01.039 --> 02:12:05.680
guess what, the ten dollars worker
again. So the wage in California though,

1701
02:12:07.000 --> 02:12:09.920
they just fired ten thousand McDonald's employees. They took a survey of the

1702
02:12:11.600 --> 02:12:16.319
franchises out there, ten thousand employees
gone because fast food workers now have to

1703
02:12:16.399 --> 02:12:20.479
be paid twenty dollars an hour,
ten thousand people out of work overnight.

1704
02:12:20.640 --> 02:12:24.560
Yeah, but it didn't stop them
from doubling and tripling the price of the

1705
02:12:24.640 --> 02:12:26.800
meal. You see what I'm saying. I'm just getting that absolutely wrong.

1706
02:12:28.359 --> 02:12:31.520
Okay. Look, everybody says,
well, you don't want to pay that

1707
02:12:31.640 --> 02:12:33.840
much for your fast food burger,
but they were jacking that up before they

1708
02:12:33.960 --> 02:12:39.079
jacked up, you know what I
mean. So I don't get it.

1709
02:12:39.199 --> 02:12:41.439
And also even at the time when
that burger was a dollar, I was

1710
02:12:41.479 --> 02:12:43.840
asking the question, what in the
hell is in the burger to make it

1711
02:12:43.880 --> 02:12:48.479
a dollar? Because you know,
I mean, is it just because you're

1712
02:12:48.520 --> 02:12:50.800
buying it? Oh? You look
at the well, you look at the

1713
02:12:50.840 --> 02:12:54.359
profit margin. You know that one
patty of meat might cost them twenty two

1714
02:12:54.479 --> 02:13:01.319
cent, the bun might cost them
a nickel, the co coundavents altogether another

1715
02:13:03.000 --> 02:13:07.199
ten cents, so there was a
profit margin built in it. But you

1716
02:13:07.359 --> 02:13:09.159
tell me what the hell's in that
burger? Now that it sells for three

1717
02:13:09.279 --> 02:13:13.920
dollars for a regular hamburger at McDonald's, there's not three dollars worth of materials

1718
02:13:13.960 --> 02:13:16.800
in it. So where in the
hell's the three dollars? Well, the

1719
02:13:16.880 --> 02:13:20.520
same where did it go? Yeah, well, the same place that it

1720
02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:22.920
went with the coffee, because coffee
used to be you could sell it for

1721
02:13:24.039 --> 02:13:28.319
a dollar and it was the cheapest
investment when it came to food, you

1722
02:13:28.439 --> 02:13:31.479
know, and food service, coffee
was I mean, I remember going through

1723
02:13:31.560 --> 02:13:35.960
this in the nineties going, damn, coffee is the highest profit margin thing

1724
02:13:37.039 --> 02:13:39.439
you could possibly have. I mean, you know, I was selling so

1725
02:13:39.640 --> 02:13:43.239
out gums. Yeah, but that
changed, you know, it went to

1726
02:13:43.479 --> 02:13:48.960
Fountain Drinks because you were paying only
so much for a thirty five gallon can

1727
02:13:48.079 --> 02:13:52.319
of syrup, and for what they
were charging for drinks, a damn drink

1728
02:13:52.439 --> 02:13:56.920
now is three bucks, right,
but they were giving us five and ten

1729
02:13:56.000 --> 02:14:01.479
gallon boxes. You know that we
could make you know, five hundred cups

1730
02:14:03.399 --> 02:14:05.800
out of that thing for twenty dollars. I mean it was like you were

1731
02:14:05.840 --> 02:14:07.159
paying you know, a nickel for
the cup and a nickel for the stuff

1732
02:14:07.199 --> 02:14:09.439
in the cup, and then you
could charge a dollar and you were making

1733
02:14:09.520 --> 02:14:13.960
good money. Uh, that was
about the equation. Maybe it went up

1734
02:14:13.960 --> 02:14:18.399
to ten cents on the cups if
you got better cups, but either way,

1735
02:14:18.640 --> 02:14:20.680
it was still pretty good. You
know, you got fifteen twenty cents

1736
02:14:20.720 --> 02:14:26.560
worth of stuff and it's going out
for a dollar and everybody's happy. And

1737
02:14:26.720 --> 02:14:30.159
now, yeah, like you said, three dollars, please, can you

1738
02:14:30.199 --> 02:14:31.600
get a drink for less than three
dollars? You know? Yeah? I

1739
02:14:31.680 --> 02:14:37.760
think about two liter bottles, you
know, every major bottling company out there.

1740
02:14:37.840 --> 02:14:41.279
You could pull into a fast fair, you could pull into a car

1741
02:14:41.239 --> 02:14:46.960
gas station a quick markigg nine liter
bottle, Yeah, Piggly with grocers ninety

1742
02:14:48.000 --> 02:14:50.079
nine cent two liter bottle. What
are they now two forty nine, three

1743
02:14:50.199 --> 02:14:54.720
forty nine two? Well, I
show the same thing, average price two

1744
02:14:54.800 --> 02:14:58.119
seventy nine near me. Yeah,
and you have something to us. We

1745
02:14:58.239 --> 02:15:01.960
used to spend nine nine cent on
every day of the week. Is you

1746
02:15:01.039 --> 02:15:05.680
couldn't slay a cat for hit the
store didn't have nine to nine liter bottles,

1747
02:15:05.800 --> 02:15:07.199
right, And if it wasn't coke, it was pepsi. And believe

1748
02:15:07.239 --> 02:15:09.840
me, I used to shop and
go, okay, so this one's on

1749
02:15:09.920 --> 02:15:11.760
sale, I'll get it. I'll
get this one this week. I just

1750
02:15:11.880 --> 02:15:16.079
needed my caffeine. And you know, I'm a soda drinker, so you

1751
02:15:16.159 --> 02:15:22.159
know I'm well aware price and it's
insane. And the funny thing is I

1752
02:15:22.279 --> 02:15:26.199
thought it was crazy. And this
is one of the mistakes I made in

1753
02:15:26.319 --> 02:15:30.600
convenience stores when they first introduced red
Bull, and I said, I am

1754
02:15:30.720 --> 02:15:33.720
not gonna, with a straight face
try and charge people three dollars for an

1755
02:15:33.720 --> 02:15:39.119
eight ounce can. Uh. I
always had this idea that you don't make

1756
02:15:39.359 --> 02:15:43.239
high priced things land in your convenience
store. It's just a bad idea.

1757
02:15:43.439 --> 02:15:46.920
Oh exactly. And now what you're
paying, you get them on special at

1758
02:15:46.960 --> 02:15:52.560
Speedway for two for six Bucks.
Yeah right, even now when they're on

1759
02:15:52.680 --> 02:15:56.680
special, but eight ounce cans for
three dollars, I'm going, who the

1760
02:15:56.720 --> 02:15:58.920
hell is going to pay that?
And they did, you know, I

1761
02:16:00.119 --> 02:16:03.000
mean I fought going to the dollar
twenty five on the twenty ounce bottle.

1762
02:16:03.920 --> 02:16:09.239
You know, in like nineteen ninety
nine. My ex father in law he

1763
02:16:09.399 --> 02:16:13.520
was rather up in the age when
I married his daughter, and he was

1764
02:16:13.720 --> 02:16:16.840
sitting there one day just taking a
hit. I said, what is it?

1765
02:16:16.680 --> 02:16:22.119
He says, I would never think
in my lifetime that I would see

1766
02:16:22.359 --> 02:16:26.560
water more expensive than gasoline. Oh
yeah, way more. And that's when

1767
02:16:26.680 --> 02:16:31.199
you know the water craze was really
getting big, and for what they were

1768
02:16:31.279 --> 02:16:33.639
charging, he said, I just
can't believe I'd ever seen that in my

1769
02:16:33.760 --> 02:16:39.559
life. Well again, when we
were children, that didn't exist. You

1770
02:16:39.639 --> 02:16:43.799
know, bottled water was for rich
people. You know, they got their

1771
02:16:43.920 --> 02:16:48.440
special waters, right, they had
their mineral water. And then this brand

1772
02:16:48.799 --> 02:16:52.319
was it Avion, I think it
was came out right and it was like,

1773
02:16:52.440 --> 02:16:58.680
oh look, specialty water, that's
for rich people. And nowadays even

1774
02:16:58.760 --> 02:17:05.239
Walmart sells you bottle every place.
Well that's like outside of Moxwel, which

1775
02:17:05.879 --> 02:17:09.120
if you know about where Winston Salem
is Is it's you know, just a

1776
02:17:09.159 --> 02:17:15.479
little bit west of their. La
Blue came in and dug three massive wells

1777
02:17:16.440 --> 02:17:20.680
and started bottling water and people would
pay a fortune for it. They that's

1778
02:17:20.719 --> 02:17:24.760
back when bottle services at offices were
pretty big. And then they started putting

1779
02:17:24.760 --> 02:17:28.959
it in individual half liter bottles to
selling the stores. Right, And it's

1780
02:17:30.079 --> 02:17:33.639
like, dude, and all it
is is well water. You're paying for

1781
02:17:33.239 --> 02:17:37.479
Davy County well water. You can
get that in Davy County for next to

1782
02:17:37.520 --> 02:17:41.520
nothing if you dig a well.
You know, it's not anything special.

1783
02:17:41.840 --> 02:17:45.760
Well, people were paying out the
notes for this stuff. Well, it

1784
02:17:45.879 --> 02:17:48.799
was hilarious when when when Coke and
PEPSI decided to, uh, you know,

1785
02:17:48.920 --> 02:17:54.239
go into the bottled water business.
Uh you read it and it would

1786
02:17:54.280 --> 02:17:56.840
say from a municipal source, you
know, like I remember when it was

1787
02:17:56.959 --> 02:18:00.959
when it was introduced and it was
like high end. It was like everybody

1788
02:18:01.040 --> 02:18:05.479
called it spring water because the idea
was it was coming from a natural spring,

1789
02:18:05.719 --> 02:18:11.680
so therefore maybe you should pay for
it because it's clean, it's better

1790
02:18:11.799 --> 02:18:13.600
than the drinking water that you have. And I understood that. And Poland

1791
02:18:13.680 --> 02:18:16.120
Spring was one of the biggest names, right, They were one of the

1792
02:18:16.159 --> 02:18:20.879
first ones to really go out there
and sell the big bottles, you know,

1793
02:18:20.959 --> 02:18:22.600
the five gallon bottles that that people
had to put on top of the

1794
02:18:22.680 --> 02:18:26.840
water machines in the offices and all
that. And I said, well,

1795
02:18:26.920 --> 02:18:31.159
I can understand that, but then
when you saw like, oh my god,

1796
02:18:31.239 --> 02:18:35.639
what was it Disani and uh,
I can't remember Pepsi's water, but

1797
02:18:35.680 --> 02:18:39.399
Pepsi had a water name too out
there, and the two of them came

1798
02:18:39.440 --> 02:18:45.920
out Pepsis. Isn't that not heavy? And who did they bought? No,

1799
02:18:46.040 --> 02:18:50.440
it wasn't Avion went I think Avion
might be gone now, but uh,

1800
02:18:50.600 --> 02:18:54.360
but they had they had a bottle
of water too. I can't remember

1801
02:18:54.360 --> 02:18:56.239
the name of it. But either
way, if you read the bottle,

1802
02:18:56.280 --> 02:19:00.760
it's like from municipal source. So
basically what they're telling you is we put

1803
02:19:00.799 --> 02:19:05.920
tapwater info Aquafina, that's it.
And yeah, municipal source said right on

1804
02:19:07.000 --> 02:19:09.280
the bottle. And people were like
paying more for that than they were for

1805
02:19:09.360 --> 02:19:11.760
the Poland Spring. And I'm going, well, Poland spring is supposed to

1806
02:19:11.799 --> 02:19:16.200
be from the spring. And then
you read the Poland spring bottle and they're

1807
02:19:16.239 --> 02:19:18.479
like, yeah, well we also
combine it with guess what municipal water source.

1808
02:19:20.000 --> 02:19:22.879
And I'm going, oh, so
you get some spring water, you

1809
02:19:24.000 --> 02:19:28.799
know, slowly but surely. Yeah, it's well if you think about it.

1810
02:19:28.840 --> 02:19:30.879
I mean, they were geared up
for it because you know, if

1811
02:19:30.879 --> 02:19:35.120
they're purification process they use in making
their drinks, they're just water running regular

1812
02:19:35.719 --> 02:19:39.920
municipal water. There's this same damn
filter system. All of you use a

1813
02:19:39.000 --> 02:19:43.879
reverse Ossis filter system for their water, right, and they package it.

1814
02:19:43.920 --> 02:19:48.200
Although you got to give them credit
though, when there are natural disasters,

1815
02:19:48.079 --> 02:19:52.200
they do show up with truckloads of
this stuff donated, so you know,

1816
02:19:52.399 --> 02:19:56.319
kudos to the companies for having it
out there, but got of quick couching

1817
02:19:56.399 --> 02:20:00.879
us on the price, which you
know, and during the eleven you know,

1818
02:20:01.000 --> 02:20:05.799
when that cleanup started happening in New
York City, it was a private

1819
02:20:05.879 --> 02:20:11.760
businesses, including myself, who were
sending palettes of bottled water to those guys

1820
02:20:11.799 --> 02:20:15.399
that were digging, you know,
digging looking for people. Okay, I'm

1821
02:20:15.440 --> 02:20:18.360
not saying it's not useful. I'm
not saying it doesn't help. I'm not

1822
02:20:18.440 --> 02:20:22.639
saying it's not a good thing for
survival when natural disasters happen and everything else.

1823
02:20:22.040 --> 02:20:26.239
But it is a weird business to
get into bottled water. And that

1824
02:20:26.360 --> 02:20:31.159
was one of those things that the
generation before me seemed to reject outright.

1825
02:20:31.239 --> 02:20:35.360
It was like, why am I
going to pay money for water? And

1826
02:20:35.479 --> 02:20:39.120
I went, they will, and
I believed in that. So I was

1827
02:20:39.200 --> 02:20:41.840
one of those people carrying the bottled
water because I knew it was going to

1828
02:20:41.920 --> 02:20:46.520
work. But I did not have
the foresight to believe in red bull.

1829
02:20:46.920 --> 02:20:50.200
So meanwhile, we've kept Chris on
the line and we have gone over your

1830
02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:52.360
executive producer for the extra amount of
time tonight. By the way, is

1831
02:20:52.719 --> 02:20:58.159
Jimmy James, just so you guys
know, And let's see Chris, you're

1832
02:20:58.159 --> 02:21:03.239
still on the line. And I
know we've been around the way a bit

1833
02:21:03.319 --> 02:21:05.319
here in the discussion, but I
open it up to you, my friend,

1834
02:21:05.399 --> 02:21:09.280
and maybe you'll get the last word
here. Well I'll probably give it

1835
02:21:09.319 --> 02:21:11.159
to be peak, but uh,
but you'll get the last word from the

1836
02:21:11.200 --> 02:21:15.799
callers because nobody else is called in. Three one nine, five two seven,

1837
02:21:15.920 --> 02:21:18.639
five zero one six. I still
got open lines. You call in,

1838
02:21:18.760 --> 02:21:20.959
I'll continue, but if not,
I guess I'm done. Chris,

1839
02:21:22.520 --> 02:21:26.280
what's up, man? What what's
on your mind? Did we spark any

1840
02:21:26.360 --> 02:21:28.879
thoughts or do you have some others
you want to throw on the table?

1841
02:21:30.959 --> 02:21:35.159
It did, but you guys covered
such a wide array of topics that you

1842
02:21:35.239 --> 02:21:39.879
know that I'm sorry, we want
to give you a lot of choice on

1843
02:21:39.000 --> 02:21:43.200
thee I locked on the one train
of thought. Then, you know,

1844
02:21:43.719 --> 02:21:48.280
no, no disrespect. You guys
have covered so many, so much ground

1845
02:21:48.479 --> 02:21:52.959
in terms of talking points. But
I will say that, you know,

1846
02:21:54.840 --> 02:21:58.280
five Men's seven eleven stores for you
know, roughly five years, and I

1847
02:21:58.760 --> 02:22:03.920
would accessful during that period of time. You know, I wasn't fired daring

1848
02:22:05.000 --> 02:22:09.479
my career. I quit, you
know, but I will say, you

1849
02:22:09.559 --> 02:22:13.799
know, with the price points,
the price points of water, I mean

1850
02:22:15.040 --> 02:22:18.920
the price posts in general. I
mean, like, let's analyze how much

1851
02:22:18.959 --> 02:22:22.120
it costs for one of those times
drinks to buy, you know, and

1852
02:22:22.239 --> 02:22:26.600
nowadays you can't. You can't buy
a super Gold or a double Gulf anymore.

1853
02:22:26.639 --> 02:22:31.040
You can only buy a big golf
yeah, cogress and stuff. You

1854
02:22:31.120 --> 02:22:35.159
know. Then this ridiculous, Well
well wait, where did where did you

1855
02:22:35.280 --> 02:22:39.040
manage that? Wait a minute,
where did you manage seven elevens? Because

1856
02:22:39.159 --> 02:22:41.399
in New York and New Jersey?
You know, I worked in seven eleven

1857
02:22:43.079 --> 02:22:46.479
and I was fired from A seven
eleven. I'll tell that story one day,

1858
02:22:46.600 --> 02:22:48.879
and it doesn't make me look good. How I got fired from that

1859
02:22:48.000 --> 02:22:54.959
seven eleven. Uh yeah, yoie, but uh I got fired from A

1860
02:22:54.040 --> 02:22:58.520
seven eleven. But I was working
there for a bit and I was promised

1861
02:22:58.559 --> 02:23:00.959
that I would get a manager job, and they never came through on that.

1862
02:23:01.159 --> 02:23:03.440
But then I got myself fired and
it was a good reason for me

1863
02:23:03.520 --> 02:23:11.719
to be fired. But anyway,
seven to eleven had a template and it

1864
02:23:11.120 --> 02:23:16.200
just slightly varied in different states.
So in New York, they they that

1865
02:23:16.360 --> 02:23:20.680
was the first place they cut off
the super big drinks, you know,

1866
02:23:20.840 --> 02:23:24.479
the mega big gulp and the double
gulp and all that stuff. And I

1867
02:23:24.639 --> 02:23:26.479
was one of the people that used
to go there, was like, hey,

1868
02:23:26.559 --> 02:23:31.239
twenty cents more, I'll get a
double gop screw it, And yeah,

1869
02:23:31.600 --> 02:23:37.200
yeah, they took that away,
so go ahead. Sorry no,

1870
02:23:37.360 --> 02:23:41.040
I said, hell, yeah,
I wouldn't you. I mean, I'll

1871
02:23:41.120 --> 02:23:45.239
for the double golf most of the
big gol for you know, twenty cents

1872
02:23:45.319 --> 02:23:48.799
more, right, But yes,
I wouldn't do it. I was agreeing

1873
02:23:48.840 --> 02:23:52.920
with you. Sorry, no problem, But where did you manage seven elevens?

1874
02:23:52.920 --> 02:23:56.000
Because again I was in I was
in Jersey for seven eleven. I

1875
02:23:56.040 --> 02:23:58.399
wasn't in New York for it,
but I knew about the New York problem

1876
02:23:58.479 --> 02:24:03.840
with the cup because they they took
away their cups, like they literally came

1877
02:24:03.920 --> 02:24:09.440
in and like the south Land Corporation
representatives showed up and collected all their bigger

1878
02:24:09.479 --> 02:24:13.040
cups and made them remove them from
the stores. Uh, they didn't even

1879
02:24:13.120 --> 02:24:20.280
sell them out the adopted but you
know, I loven't. Well, I'm

1880
02:24:20.319 --> 02:24:26.479
gonna Califorida, you know with north
central Florida, Okay, And yeah,

1881
02:24:26.959 --> 02:24:30.479
you can't go into seven eleven and
the on things. The other size,

1882
02:24:30.760 --> 02:24:33.719
the larger size you can buy the
big old Okay, are not a big

1883
02:24:33.799 --> 02:24:37.520
olf, but yeah, I'm big
oflf. I reckon, you can't buy

1884
02:24:37.559 --> 02:24:41.399
the c there's no option for the
cerp gulfs or the double golfs. It's

1885
02:24:41.520 --> 02:24:46.399
just big OLPs. That's your larger
size. Which it actually seems as they've

1886
02:24:46.399 --> 02:24:52.040
struck them the cup size on those
well probably well they made the hot dog

1887
02:24:52.159 --> 02:24:56.319
smaller too. Now seven to eleven
used to have a quarter pound hot dog

1888
02:24:56.440 --> 02:25:01.239
as well, which was pretty big. Right. Yeah, circle case has

1889
02:25:01.360 --> 02:25:09.520
that circle k. Yeah. Speedway
was just bought by seven eleven here about

1890
02:25:09.680 --> 02:25:13.440
six seven months ago, and so
now you're starting to see all these seven

1891
02:25:13.440 --> 02:25:16.719
eleven products in the Speedway stores.
But they used to have a quarter pound

1892
02:25:16.760 --> 02:25:20.600
hot dog. They went down to
eighth of a pound normal size hot dog.

1893
02:25:20.000 --> 02:25:24.840
Circle K now has the quarter pound
hot dogs and they'll put them on

1894
02:25:24.959 --> 02:25:31.200
special two for four bucks occasionally,
right, But seven eleven was the king

1895
02:25:31.280 --> 02:25:35.600
of just the bulble items. Seven
eleven used to have like three teketos for

1896
02:25:35.719 --> 02:25:41.040
three bucks. Now it's two for
three bucks. So that's a fifty percent

1897
02:25:41.159 --> 02:25:45.200
increase right there. For more than
that, it's if you want to buy

1898
02:25:45.280 --> 02:25:50.959
two tiketos, and I think it's
on a small handful of the seven elevens

1899
02:25:50.959 --> 02:25:54.319
where I live, but you know, it's primarily like Circlet Base nowadays Lace

1900
02:25:54.440 --> 02:26:01.159
where I live, right, and
you know the all. But you're talking,

1901
02:26:03.159 --> 02:26:05.200
if you buy two tiketos, you
know, whatever you want to call

1902
02:26:05.319 --> 02:26:09.840
them, you know, and they
vary from different chains, but the name

1903
02:26:09.959 --> 02:26:16.120
varies at least in saying but I
mean you're talking. I mean it's two

1904
02:26:16.239 --> 02:26:20.440
for five, two for six,
yeah, man, the yeah, the

1905
02:26:20.600 --> 02:26:26.440
prices the price has gotten so hot, so ungodly outrageous. It's not even

1906
02:26:26.479 --> 02:26:28.479
funny. Yeah, No, two
two for five, right, two for

1907
02:26:28.639 --> 02:26:31.479
five is where I last saw them. And see in New Jersey. What

1908
02:26:31.680 --> 02:26:37.479
happened, b Pete is wah Wah
came and smoked all of those stores by

1909
02:26:37.600 --> 02:26:41.520
doing stuff like you know, like
I said, seven to eleven was the

1910
02:26:41.600 --> 02:26:45.440
king of the quarter pound hot dog. Wah Wah came in and said,

1911
02:26:45.520 --> 02:26:46.840
not only are we going to sell
this thing, but we're gonna call it

1912
02:26:46.920 --> 02:26:54.680
the underdog. And the underdog was
a huge dog. It was like bigger

1913
02:26:54.760 --> 02:26:58.920
than a quarter pound number one,
number two. They sold them for next

1914
02:26:58.959 --> 02:27:03.120
to nothing. They used them as
a loss leader, the hot dogs at

1915
02:27:03.159 --> 02:27:05.600
Wahwah. Right, so you go
to the seven eleven. They're charging you

1916
02:27:05.639 --> 02:27:09.920
a dollar ninety nine for a quarter
pound. You could get two of them

1917
02:27:09.280 --> 02:27:13.840
at Wahwah and they would let you
put cheese on it, whatever you wanted,

1918
02:27:13.440 --> 02:27:18.840
all this other stuff, you know, and they just pounded the seven

1919
02:27:18.879 --> 02:27:22.200
elevens to death. In most of
New Jersey, wah Waws were everywhere.

1920
02:27:22.280 --> 02:27:26.840
I mean, I lived in a
town in Jersey, a small town,

1921
02:27:26.959 --> 02:27:30.319
not a big place, but it's
blown up since I left there. But

1922
02:27:30.479 --> 02:27:35.079
when I left there, ten years
ago there was a second seven eleven had

1923
02:27:35.159 --> 02:27:41.879
opened up and probably wasn't going to
survive. They had opened up four wa

1924
02:27:41.959 --> 02:27:46.559
waws in a small town, and
they would do this in a bigger town

1925
02:27:46.639 --> 02:27:50.440
like Tom's River. There must be
like eight wa Wah locations, right,

1926
02:27:50.559 --> 02:27:54.120
And they pushed out all the browsers, all that stuff. They just crushed

1927
02:27:54.159 --> 02:27:58.239
them in every place and started pounding
the gas stations out, which is I

1928
02:27:58.360 --> 02:28:01.760
was working for X at one point
and we were like, damn, look

1929
02:28:01.760 --> 02:28:05.000
at what wah Wah was doing.
And uh, as a matter of fact,

1930
02:28:05.040 --> 02:28:07.479
they put out one of the they
put out one of the Tiger Marts

1931
02:28:07.520 --> 02:28:11.719
that was one of my home locations. By getting the town to literally change

1932
02:28:11.760 --> 02:28:15.959
their laws. They had a law
you couldn't build a gas station within a

1933
02:28:16.040 --> 02:28:20.360
mile of another gas station in this
town called Whiting in New Jersey, which

1934
02:28:20.479 --> 02:28:24.280
was primarily a retirement town. And
wah Wah went in on the weekend and

1935
02:28:24.440 --> 02:28:30.959
got the town council to secretly put
in a new provision to withdraw the law

1936
02:28:31.079 --> 02:28:33.319
that said you couldn't build a gas
station within a mile of another gas station.

1937
02:28:33.799 --> 02:28:39.239
And the wah Wah, which was
right across the street from my gas

1938
02:28:39.280 --> 02:28:43.200
station, moved to the other corner
and created a megagas station and put the

1939
02:28:43.280 --> 02:28:48.399
place I was working at out of
business right away. Lowest gas price got

1940
02:28:48.479 --> 02:28:54.360
down here. I never saw seven
elevens when I first moved to North Carolina.

1941
02:28:54.799 --> 02:28:58.000
I had seen them everywhere else we
lived all over the US. Yeah,

1942
02:28:58.000 --> 02:29:00.440
I could. It was one area
where you didn't see that tinty seven

1943
02:29:00.440 --> 02:29:03.040
to eleven. You saw them down
at Charlotte. You had a couple in

1944
02:29:03.239 --> 02:29:07.360
Raleigh, and that was about it. So then Sheets took advantage of that.

1945
02:29:07.520 --> 02:29:11.120
You know, usually we had convenience
stores that were not necessarily where you

1946
02:29:11.239 --> 02:29:15.639
also got gas. They would open
a convenience store with no gas pumps,

1947
02:29:15.680 --> 02:29:20.239
and that's when the fast Fairs and
the Scotchman's weren't real big. But then

1948
02:29:20.440 --> 02:29:26.399
Sheets, competing with Wahwah in Pennsylvania, decided to come down this way.

1949
02:29:26.559 --> 02:29:31.559
So they trudged on through Virginia and
on down into North Carolina. Well,

1950
02:29:31.680 --> 02:29:35.760
wawah just announced they're going to be
building I think it's five stores in North

1951
02:29:35.840 --> 02:29:39.239
Carolina, and then they planned to
expand there. So were you going to

1952
02:29:39.280 --> 02:29:43.879
see a lot of this? Yeah? Going on now? Is his companies

1953
02:29:46.319 --> 02:29:50.319
wah Wah is also coming to Georgia. I just saw that and I was

1954
02:29:50.360 --> 02:29:54.799
actually kind of happy about it because
they sold cheap sandwiches. Yeah. Well,

1955
02:29:54.879 --> 02:29:58.959
remember we saw Buckis in Texas.
They have already they're building two store

1956
02:30:00.239 --> 02:30:03.120
here in North Carolina. So I
guess convenience stores are going to be the

1957
02:30:03.239 --> 02:30:09.440
new battle ground in this economy.
And we see who ends upo. Yeah,

1958
02:30:09.520 --> 02:30:13.079
well, but that's the thing you
go to, like the there's a

1959
02:30:13.239 --> 02:30:16.440
Loves over here by a truck stop, and it's like the ultimate place.

1960
02:30:16.479 --> 02:30:20.840
I never seen a place like this
before, uh you know, and they

1961
02:30:20.959 --> 02:30:24.520
just attach other restaurants to it and
it doesn't matter. The place is just

1962
02:30:24.639 --> 02:30:28.799
this megare big thing. Now you'll
see a Loves and you'll see three different

1963
02:30:28.840 --> 02:30:31.399
fast food joints. You'll see a
Subway, a hart Ease, and a

1964
02:30:31.840 --> 02:30:39.399
and a Bojangles or a Taco Duncan, Donuts, Tacobuncan, Robbins and McDonald's.

1965
02:30:39.680 --> 02:30:43.120
Yeah. Well, and that was
modular construction. And that's the kind

1966
02:30:43.159 --> 02:30:46.079
of weird stuff they started doing in
Jersey, but it didn't work out as

1967
02:30:46.120 --> 02:30:50.079
well in Jersey. The mega wah
wah is what worked out in Jersey and

1968
02:30:50.479 --> 02:30:56.040
they they just completely dominate the whole
convenience. Which is really funny because you

1969
02:30:56.079 --> 02:31:00.399
go into Pennsylvania and there is a
carbon copy of the wa wah stores and

1970
02:31:00.719 --> 02:31:03.840
it's the Turkey Hill brand. I
know you guys have probably seen Turkey Hill

1971
02:31:03.879 --> 02:31:07.159
ice cream in a grocery store,
but and sometimes you'll see like their lemonade

1972
02:31:07.280 --> 02:31:11.000
or iced tea on sale, and
that's what they were known for, is

1973
02:31:11.120 --> 02:31:16.760
you know, cheap ice tea and
cheap ice cream and cheap lemonade. Well,

1974
02:31:16.079 --> 02:31:22.000
in Pennsylvania in certain parts, you
might as well just slap a wah

1975
02:31:22.040 --> 02:31:24.920
wah logo on it because it looks
exactly it's exactly the same, the same

1976
02:31:26.000 --> 02:31:28.760
as a wah wah. I'm looking
forward to it because when I saw sheets,

1977
02:31:28.799 --> 02:31:31.040
I said, oh, this is
like a crappy version of a wa

1978
02:31:31.120 --> 02:31:37.040
wa. It's not as good as
a waa. Let me ask you have

1979
02:31:37.120 --> 02:31:43.479
you guys say in an increase in
the car washes like the South at the

1980
02:31:43.559 --> 02:31:50.399
manic car washes because here in northern
Florida and then they've been sprouting up like

1981
02:31:50.600 --> 02:31:54.719
on every corner that you could possibly
imagine, just like a dugandouts. You

1982
02:31:54.799 --> 02:32:01.360
know, that's usually I've seen too
these area. Why the problem? Sorry,

1983
02:32:01.399 --> 02:32:03.319
go ahead, now, it's the
automated car wash you're talking about,

1984
02:32:03.399 --> 02:32:13.440
right, Yes, yes, the
automated Okay, because the self there drifter

1985
02:32:13.799 --> 02:32:16.920
and you know you can spread your
car with some air fresheners that you know

1986
02:32:18.000 --> 02:32:20.959
when you get to the vacuuming station. Right, those types of car washes.

1987
02:32:22.000 --> 02:32:28.479
Okay, Now that those things they've
been sprout up like leads. Now

1988
02:32:28.639 --> 02:32:33.360
those things usually happen. Let me
tell you something that that that that warns

1989
02:32:33.440 --> 02:32:37.440
you of. Uh when when I
had to study you know, this stuff,

1990
02:32:37.520 --> 02:32:41.920
and we were studying the demographics of
different areas, and this is a

1991
02:32:41.000 --> 02:32:46.879
little a little bit of the exceon
mobile education I got. Is when you

1992
02:32:46.040 --> 02:32:50.840
see that they're getting ready to do
some very serious expansion in that area,

1993
02:32:50.920 --> 02:32:58.440
you're going to see the population grow
and there's going to be probably either a

1994
02:32:58.520 --> 02:33:03.719
gentrification of a badighborhood nearby, or
they're going to upscale some stuff and add

1995
02:33:03.840 --> 02:33:07.879
some retirement communities in your area.
That's what's gonna happen, is they're going

1996
02:33:07.959 --> 02:33:13.000
to upscale the population by quite a
bit when you see those car washes coming

1997
02:33:13.079 --> 02:33:15.879
in. Now, I haven't personally
used the car wash in a while because

1998
02:33:15.920 --> 02:33:20.000
we don't have a car anymore.
But yeah, the last time that I

1999
02:33:20.040 --> 02:33:22.079
went to use one in Georgia,
it's still very popular. The uh,

2000
02:33:22.639 --> 02:33:26.840
you know, do it yourself deal, you know where the coin op kind

2001
02:33:26.879 --> 02:33:30.959
of situation where you can go through
the automated but most of the most of

2002
02:33:31.040 --> 02:33:35.399
the places devoted to people spraying down
their own cars, you know, and

2003
02:33:35.520 --> 02:33:37.319
doing their own thing and also going
to the vacuums and doing you know,

2004
02:33:37.479 --> 02:33:43.399
just going to different stations and doing
different things with coins. And you either

2005
02:33:43.479 --> 02:33:46.639
got to buy coins for certain stuff
or when you get to the vacuum,

2006
02:33:46.680 --> 02:33:54.639
it's quarters. So yeah, it's
still a coin operating here. They'll think

2007
02:33:54.680 --> 02:33:56.879
you debit card. Now I have
somebody when I moved here. Now this

2008
02:33:58.079 --> 02:34:01.719
is an old, old car wash
years, it's been here for thirty years,

2009
02:34:01.239 --> 02:34:03.399
and I asked somebody who to take
quarters. He said, dude,

2010
02:34:03.440 --> 02:34:07.639
they take it all. Bill's quarters
and cards. They're modernized, even a

2011
02:34:07.719 --> 02:34:13.680
little old you don't cross roads.
Okay, Well, the car I'll talk

2012
02:34:13.719 --> 02:34:20.319
about it. They're they're they're you're
paying for subscription services. It's a drive

2013
02:34:20.399 --> 02:34:28.159
a car through it through the car
loss and to have the privilege of utilizing

2014
02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:31.959
the vacuum station. And like I
said, you know, maybe they if

2015
02:34:31.079 --> 02:34:35.239
no one's stolen the the air fresh
in the bottle, you can split your

2016
02:34:35.319 --> 02:34:39.360
car down and you know, then
tear you down with that and you know,

2017
02:34:39.600 --> 02:34:43.600
make it smell nice. And maybe
there's an amoral bottle you can spray

2018
02:34:43.639 --> 02:34:46.360
it down with that and wipe it
down, you know. So it's one

2019
02:34:46.399 --> 02:34:50.479
of those Yeah, it's one of
those key ring joints where you you buy

2020
02:34:50.520 --> 02:34:54.559
a key ring, right, and
that means that you're a gold member or

2021
02:34:54.639 --> 02:34:58.120
you're a silver member or you're a
platinum member or that kind of thing.

2022
02:35:00.200 --> 02:35:01.559
Not a key ring, well at
least not here. I mean, it's

2023
02:35:01.600 --> 02:35:05.840
all I mean, it's all digital
nowadays, you know. Oh yeah,

2024
02:35:05.840 --> 02:35:09.479
you all the key ring is is
a way for you to scan your barcode

2025
02:35:11.120 --> 02:35:15.360
so that they know which services you're
subscribed to. Yeah, but yeah,

2026
02:35:15.440 --> 02:35:18.120
that's what I'm talking about. Okay, Yeah, I think you're going to

2027
02:35:18.159 --> 02:35:22.600
see in a watch there's going to
be development in your area. This is

2028
02:35:22.719 --> 02:35:26.399
what that usually pour tends. When
people start investing in those in your area,

2029
02:35:26.559 --> 02:35:33.319
it means they're expecting a population boom. No, my areas are screwed

2030
02:35:33.360 --> 02:35:39.680
because we've been on like the I
think we've been a mistaken we were We've

2031
02:35:39.760 --> 02:35:43.680
been like number three for nationwide for
people to move here, you know,

2032
02:35:43.840 --> 02:35:48.440
over the last five years. I
mean no, we're no, I'm I'm

2033
02:35:48.479 --> 02:35:56.559
screwed testament in terms of people that
are that you know, we're surprisingly uh

2034
02:35:58.120 --> 02:36:03.920
at the top tier in the national
list of well living in New York and

2035
02:36:03.000 --> 02:36:07.319
New Jersey. I learned one thing, and that is that they can always

2036
02:36:07.600 --> 02:36:11.200
always stack people on top of each
other, because that's what you do.

2037
02:36:11.959 --> 02:36:13.959
You know, when you run out
of space to build on, you build

2038
02:36:15.079 --> 02:36:18.239
up. And that's what they'll do. Right, Okay, so we can't

2039
02:36:18.280 --> 02:36:24.040
build a whole retirement community. We'll
build a retirement skyscraper. Will build a

2040
02:36:24.120 --> 02:36:28.639
building that's a big complex, a
singular complex, and instead of you know,

2041
02:36:28.799 --> 02:36:33.000
being able to rent or sell five
homes, what we'll do is we'll

2042
02:36:33.040 --> 02:36:37.760
have five hundred units in a tall
building for retirement people, and we'll make

2043
02:36:37.799 --> 02:36:43.680
it affordable retirement housing, assisted living. This kind of thing. That's the

2044
02:36:43.799 --> 02:36:46.200
sort of expansion you might be faced
with. I'm just telling you they're going

2045
02:36:46.280 --> 02:36:50.520
to expand that population one way or
another, even if it looks like it's

2046
02:36:50.520 --> 02:36:52.600
a great place to live. It
might not be after they do that,

2047
02:36:54.760 --> 02:36:58.760
and the prices will go here about
nine years ago check, I'm you know,

2048
02:37:00.200 --> 02:37:05.840
and at that point, you know, it was a somewhat small country

2049
02:37:05.120 --> 02:37:09.200
type community, you know, I
mean it was it was somewhat underdeveloped.

2050
02:37:09.719 --> 02:37:15.639
And I moved up from Sarasota,
which was at the point of which I

2051
02:37:15.920 --> 02:37:20.319
in which I moved up from Sarasota, I mean, Sarrisota have become such

2052
02:37:20.360 --> 02:37:24.360
a I mean it was way overpopulated, whatever price. But you know,

2053
02:37:24.639 --> 02:37:28.639
now, you know, since I've
been here and when I moved here already

2054
02:37:28.840 --> 02:37:33.000
you know, and I was already
warned. And this is like one of

2055
02:37:33.079 --> 02:37:37.000
the the top regions in the country, you know for black bear populations.

2056
02:37:39.000 --> 02:37:45.360
Now I've only seen a couple of
black bear you know, but and here

2057
02:37:45.479 --> 02:37:48.520
in the last few weeks. You
know, if you've brought the news sites

2058
02:37:48.559 --> 02:37:52.079
in this region, you know,
you have people bitching and complaining about seeing

2059
02:37:52.159 --> 02:37:56.239
black bear, you know, like
it shouldn't come to you to surprise to

2060
02:37:56.280 --> 02:38:01.000
you that we have black bear here
there being just place well you know,

2061
02:38:01.719 --> 02:38:07.840
clearly they're being displaced, you know, Sorry, no problem, I'm actually

2062
02:38:07.920 --> 02:38:11.639
looking. Now. Look, I
don't want you to identify the town you're

2063
02:38:11.680 --> 02:38:16.239
in, uh, Chris, but
you're in Marion town. You're in Marion

2064
02:38:16.319 --> 02:38:22.760
County, right, yeah, yeah, Marion County, Califorida. Okay,

2065
02:38:22.000 --> 02:38:28.319
no problem, Well, no problem. I'm looking over stuff and taking a

2066
02:38:28.360 --> 02:38:31.879
look at the population and all that, and it's the county seat and all

2067
02:38:31.920 --> 02:38:35.520
this other stuff. Yeah, they'll
still take an area like that, I'm

2068
02:38:35.600 --> 02:38:41.280
telling you and start stacking people upward. It gets weird. I think you

2069
02:38:41.760 --> 02:38:45.920
might be in the next few years
looking at expansions. Just let me know

2070
02:38:46.000 --> 02:38:48.479
if that happens, because that's that
is the way it was described to me.

2071
02:38:48.760 --> 02:38:52.879
This is what happens. Uh,
when you see certain trends occur in

2072
02:38:52.959 --> 02:38:56.959
an area, if that trend is
right, if you're right about the car

2073
02:38:56.200 --> 02:39:01.079
washes, Like when you start to
see certain fasts food chains show up,

2074
02:39:01.159 --> 02:39:03.879
your neighborhood's about to go bad.
You know, if somebody builds a KFC

2075
02:39:05.159 --> 02:39:09.520
and you can't figure out why they
did that, watch out because your neighborhood's

2076
02:39:09.520 --> 02:39:13.920
about to go down the tubes.
You know, you start seeing designer nails

2077
02:39:15.239 --> 02:39:20.799
and you know, check cashing stores
move because it's not gonna get any better.

2078
02:39:22.040 --> 02:39:26.559
Okay, but with the car washes, I remember that specifically. That

2079
02:39:26.719 --> 02:39:31.079
was like a population boom is about
to happen, and they're making some sort

2080
02:39:31.120 --> 02:39:33.600
of deals that you might not see
on the surface just yet. But once

2081
02:39:33.680 --> 02:39:39.120
those places are fully established, if
they don't close up real quick, it's

2082
02:39:39.200 --> 02:39:46.159
because they're waiting on increased population for
people that are gonna want to clean their

2083
02:39:46.239 --> 02:39:48.440
cars, which, by the way, is not every neighborhood in America where

2084
02:39:48.479 --> 02:39:52.520
people clean their cars. So you
got to take a look at the demographics

2085
02:39:52.559 --> 02:39:56.520
for who does that. And like
I said, I brought up the retirement

2086
02:39:56.559 --> 02:40:00.319
community for a reason. You put
retirement communities nearby, you automatic we need

2087
02:40:00.399 --> 02:40:05.000
some extra car washes. It's just
the way it goes. Because old people

2088
02:40:05.079 --> 02:40:11.159
will wash their cars. It's just
a thing they do. I'm not saying

2089
02:40:11.200 --> 02:40:13.280
you have to be able to wash
your car. I'm just saying that you're

2090
02:40:13.319 --> 02:40:18.760
better off opening it near a retirement
village if you can. Because she's been

2091
02:40:20.000 --> 02:40:22.360
sixteen eighteen dollars to wash my car. So yeah, yeah, I do

2092
02:40:22.440 --> 02:40:26.760
have my car washing in now.
Yeah, but as we get older,

2093
02:40:26.840 --> 02:40:31.680
I don't know if because you know, it takes me the same amount of

2094
02:40:31.760 --> 02:40:37.399
time down there, I got there, I got you well, you know.

2095
02:40:37.479 --> 02:40:39.639
And there's the other thing, right, is that somebody else will go

2096
02:40:39.760 --> 02:40:43.159
on the outskirts of town and be
like, as screw this, I got

2097
02:40:43.200 --> 02:40:46.000
the fight out of the car wash
over here, And yeah, that happens

2098
02:40:46.000 --> 02:40:50.079
still. And I used to love
those the modules that they put in at

2099
02:40:50.120 --> 02:40:52.479
the gas stations. You ever see
those little tiny mini buildings that some of

2100
02:40:52.520 --> 02:40:56.479
them are abandoned now in different parts
of the country, like they've broken down

2101
02:40:56.520 --> 02:41:00.239
and nobody wants to go get the
chemicals and crap you got to load into

2102
02:41:00.280 --> 02:41:03.159
them anymore, so they just sit
there abandon and like a gas station will

2103
02:41:03.200 --> 02:41:07.760
use it as storage. It's sort
of like the mechanic shops that all closed

2104
02:41:07.840 --> 02:41:09.920
up. At one point. It
was like, you know, as there

2105
02:41:11.040 --> 02:41:13.799
was mechanic shops everywhere, and they
went away. And that's because everything's made

2106
02:41:13.799 --> 02:41:18.000
of plastic and your cars don't last
twenty years anymore, so you don't need

2107
02:41:18.040 --> 02:41:20.879
as many mechanics, right eh.
But the price of that has gone up

2108
02:41:20.879 --> 02:41:24.360
as well along with everything else.
So look, we didn't get any new

2109
02:41:24.440 --> 02:41:30.159
callers for a little while, be
Pete. I'm thinking we might bid farewell

2110
02:41:30.239 --> 02:41:33.520
to Chris for this week, and
you know, I'll give you the final

2111
02:41:33.600 --> 02:41:39.399
word. What do you think should
we close this one up? Yeah?

2112
02:41:39.760 --> 02:41:41.760
Time to go get something to eat. Yeah, I'm hungry too, But

2113
02:41:41.920 --> 02:41:46.719
you know, we got another We
got another week and it can and we'll

2114
02:41:46.840 --> 02:41:50.479
just look forward to doing this next
week. Maybe we'll have some better news

2115
02:41:50.559 --> 02:41:54.639
headlines to chew through, maybe somebody
else will get indicted, or you know,

2116
02:41:54.840 --> 02:41:58.239
this is pretty much working out to
be the year in the lawsuit while

2117
02:41:58.239 --> 02:42:01.760
you're projected here the law suit that's
still working. As far as I'm concerned,

2118
02:42:01.799 --> 02:42:05.120
the year of the lawsuit still works. Chris, what's your final word

2119
02:42:05.239 --> 02:42:09.079
before I turn it over to be
Pete to end this one? You got

2120
02:42:09.159 --> 02:42:13.680
something you want to add on your
way out the door. Well, I'm

2121
02:42:13.719 --> 02:42:18.079
just gonna really reiterate what I did
on last week. So I'm gonna say

2122
02:42:18.280 --> 02:42:26.639
just, you know, for anybody
listening, chock up on the protein grow

2123
02:42:26.760 --> 02:42:31.760
whatever you can network with the you
know something you had you had said on

2124
02:42:31.840 --> 02:42:37.959
the last week's episode, yep,
network with you know, your local ranchers,

2125
02:42:37.040 --> 02:42:48.239
your welcal growers. Just keeps up
in the prepared I mean that's premitive,

2126
02:42:50.600 --> 02:42:54.159
they prepared to see possibly can,
because there's a lot of stuff coming

2127
02:42:54.239 --> 02:42:58.000
down to the pipeline, but none
of us want to say we're going to

2128
02:42:58.040 --> 02:43:01.520
see it. Absolutely, Chris,
I agree with you, and I'll tell

2129
02:43:01.520 --> 02:43:05.959
you we are entering a precarious time
period here where it is best if you

2130
02:43:07.120 --> 02:43:09.280
can. And by the way,
it's healthier to eat locally if you can.

2131
02:43:11.399 --> 02:43:13.920
I'm not always about health, especially
not now, because quite frankly,

2132
02:43:15.000 --> 02:43:18.799
who can afford to eat healthy?
I can't. But if you can somehow

2133
02:43:18.000 --> 02:43:22.239
do it. And if you can
work with local farmers, local growers,

2134
02:43:22.319 --> 02:43:26.239
or grow some things yourself, or
raise animals yourself, what the hell,

2135
02:43:26.360 --> 02:43:28.639
man, it is like printing money, and take a look at the costs

2136
02:43:28.680 --> 02:43:33.120
of stuff. I mean, the
only eggs I can afford to eat cost

2137
02:43:33.239 --> 02:43:37.719
what's seven dollars for a dozen at
this point, you know, because I

2138
02:43:37.760 --> 02:43:39.760
can't afford the cheap eggs, even
though I did see some at Aldi's for

2139
02:43:39.959 --> 02:43:43.000
like a dollar and change the other
day. And yeah, I was at

2140
02:43:43.079 --> 02:43:48.879
Aldi's trying to shop because I can't
afford the Pigley Wigley, and I can't

2141
02:43:48.920 --> 02:43:52.520
afford the Krogers. And quite frankly, I'm getting priced out of Walmart now.

2142
02:43:52.360 --> 02:43:56.000
So you know what everybody's got to
eat, and you got to get

2143
02:43:56.079 --> 02:44:00.360
your stuff from somewhere. I say, if you can figure out a way

2144
02:44:00.399 --> 02:44:03.760
to cooperate with your neighbors, eat
locally and eat stuff with you know how

2145
02:44:03.799 --> 02:44:07.079
the animal was treated, you know
how the produce was treated, or you

2146
02:44:07.200 --> 02:44:11.559
grow it yourself in a pot in
your backyard, on your ports wherever.

2147
02:44:11.639 --> 02:44:16.680
Look, man, you're guaranteed saving
yourself money if you can make something edible

2148
02:44:16.159 --> 02:44:18.879
out of the dirt and out of
the earth in front of you. So

2149
02:44:20.680 --> 02:44:22.079
yeah, at all times, I
agree, Chris. We all have to

2150
02:44:22.159 --> 02:44:24.760
be prepared, and we all have
to be in better shape, and yeah,

2151
02:44:24.840 --> 02:44:28.840
there's ways of getting protein and all
that. But quite frankly, we're

2152
02:44:28.879 --> 02:44:33.879
all in survival mode. And no, I can't afford the fast food anymore

2153
02:44:33.920 --> 02:44:37.680
either, be pete, not at
all. I used to like every once

2154
02:44:37.680 --> 02:44:39.200
in a while going to one of
the fast food joints, at least for

2155
02:44:39.360 --> 02:44:43.319
my young son who's going to have
a birthday toward the end of the month.

2156
02:44:43.479 --> 02:44:46.159
But I can't afford to do it
no more. Man, I can't

2157
02:44:46.159 --> 02:44:52.680
afford even a crappy pizza. I
can't afford the burger meal. I can't

2158
02:44:52.680 --> 02:44:56.520
afford happy meals. So you know, I don't know what to tell anybody

2159
02:44:56.559 --> 02:45:01.159
at this point except if you got
advice coming, bring it and bring it

2160
02:45:01.239 --> 02:45:03.280
to the Friday night open mic.
Maybe we can figure some ways out of

2161
02:45:03.360 --> 02:45:07.559
this crap for each other and advise
one another. So b Pete, what

2162
02:45:07.760 --> 02:45:11.760
is your last thought for the week, and I'll give it to you and

2163
02:45:11.120 --> 02:45:16.399
we'll be done. Well. I
want everybody to go out there support your

2164
02:45:16.440 --> 02:45:22.719
local food banks are really getting hit
hard here recently, so you know anything

2165
02:45:22.760 --> 02:45:26.559
that you can do help. Other
than that, I'd like to urge everybody

2166
02:45:26.639 --> 02:45:30.520
to go to Achelly dot com hit
the donate button. Every little bit helps

2167
02:45:30.639 --> 02:45:35.680
keeps this thing on the air.
And thank you for Chris and Jimmy for

2168
02:45:35.799 --> 02:45:39.239
calling in, and we'll do it
again next week. Absolutely. Also,

2169
02:45:39.360 --> 02:45:43.680
Jimmy made a donation which extended the
show. If I see that during a

2170
02:45:43.760 --> 02:45:46.840
Friday night show, I will extend
it. When we don't have an age

2171
02:45:46.879 --> 02:45:50.799
of transitions. I'm told Aaron will
be back next week. I'm told Uncle,

2172
02:45:50.840 --> 02:45:54.319
we'll be back next week, so
we won't be able to expand it

2173
02:45:54.399 --> 02:45:58.280
next week. But at all times, I'm always looking for a way to

2174
02:45:58.360 --> 02:46:05.000
go here and more than happy uh
to uh to do more when we can

2175
02:46:05.399 --> 02:46:09.959
live and take your calls. And
the Friday night open mic is your opportunity

2176
02:46:09.120 --> 02:46:13.319
to be heard. So let's do
that. And let's try not just to

2177
02:46:13.399 --> 02:46:16.479
be heard, but try to listen
to one another a little more. And

2178
02:46:16.639 --> 02:46:20.600
who knows? Man? You know? Rodney King said it. Can we

2179
02:46:20.680 --> 02:46:26.159
all just get along? That would
be best? But are we gonna stay

2180
02:46:26.239 --> 02:46:37.360
tuned? I am merely o'helly,
all of you are indeed the effect Shelley

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02:46:37.520 --> 02:46:41.079
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