WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:19.920 Welcome to another Wrestle Magic production checking in once again. It's me, It's 2 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:25.039 me Rocky t here with the gardener, Michael Gross. Michael, please introduce 3 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:29.519 our friends and tell us why we are here today and why we've gathered from 4 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:34.439 three different time zones to talk with our friends on their ww podcasts. Well, 5 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:37.880 we've got amazing friends here, and Wrestle Magic is always about things that's 6 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:41.399 different and having conversations that you know, people want to talk about, but 7 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:45.880 they don't necessarily have the right people to talk to. So I reached into 8 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:49.280 my back pocket and I talked to an old friend of mine who lives in 9 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:54.000 Memphis. His name is chef Michael Patrick. This man is amazing. You 10 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:57.119 put him in front of a knife and behind a piece of meat and you're 11 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.679 not going to be the same. So, Michael Pat, I would like 12 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:06.400 you to say hello to everybody. Hey, everybody, what's happening. So 13 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:10.959 Michael Patrick has been a wrestling fan of this same amount of time as I 14 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:14.159 have, which is really important. It's really great to have this knowledge and 15 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.959 this strength. Now behind that, we have to have our pro we have 16 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:19.760 to have our worker. We got to have our boy, and that's the 17 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.319 one and only PJ Glocko. A lot of you know him as Justin Incredible, 18 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:27.480 one of my close friends. Justin take it away, what's going on, 19 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:32.760 fellas. Happy to be here, happy to belated thanksgiving to those fans 20 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:36.359 you know that we didn't get to speak to. I'm just happy to be 21 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:42.879 here in the happy to talk shop. Fantastic. Now, something important happened 22 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:48.159 last night at the Survivor series. I made my return. Oh okay, 23 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.519 it sure didn't look like you man whenever he came out, and then when 24 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:57.799 we FaceTime, you'll have the same haircut. It is uncanny we do it. 25 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:01.519 It was a very big moment in WWE history. Now they're already talking 26 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:05.760 about heat and things like that. And obviously we don't ask Justin about backstage 27 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.360 stuff because that's not fair if he has friends there the leak things that we 28 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:13.919 don't do that. But we are going to talk about what this is in 29 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:16.680 the impact of wrestling because a long time ago, Justin, Rocky and I 30 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:21.159 were kind of off camera. We all kind of like spitball, Who's gonna 31 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:23.680 throne? Roman? Cody is supposed to be the heir to the throne, 32 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:30.280 But Cody hasn't been built the right way. But we talk about instinct credibility 33 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:34.319 that one person is CM punk. So gentlemen, we're gonna start with the 34 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:38.120 chef, mister Michael Patrick. I want you to tell me what you think 35 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:42.360 this impact of CM punk coming back is going to be at what the run 36 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:45.800 he's gonna have is going to be. Like I'm told you all on my 37 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:50.840 way last night, WW did a great job at you know, we see 38 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.280 all kinds of dirt seats and people have their opinions on things, and there 39 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:58.039 was a lot of chatter about seem punk that was showing up and he guys 40 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:00.919 said, no, no, but what when that music hit and sounded like 41 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:07.039 it was maybe a remastered version of Cold Personality, but I had heard a 42 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:08.840 pop like that since the debut and a W you know, it was a 43 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:14.240 I think they really blew the roof off. And you know, some video 44 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.199 service to Seth. I think, uh, I'd like seeing you know him 45 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:23.120 in Seth's Worker program, uh right away just kind of feed us, you 46 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.960 know, with all the rumor and then you know some of the things that 47 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.759 Seth Brons had said back last year, and it just kind of it would 48 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:36.319 be a great time way to kind of get us salvating, maybe a great 49 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:43.599 role rumble match the Throne Room, and I just you know, it'd be 50 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:46.560 great kind of to see something like that. But I mean, what what 51 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:51.400 is uh Punk's limitations now, you know, I mean he's every it seems 52 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:55.280 like every few months he tears something or hurt something. You know. I'm 53 00:03:55.280 --> 00:04:00.439 but I'm excited hell to see what they could do with all the different kind 54 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:02.000 of thing goes too. I mean, you know, Cody left AW because 55 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:04.400 of Punk. Supposedly at one point in time, they were saying, so 56 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:13.680 maybe there's a program in there too, fantastic rockstar. Well, this was 57 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:16.480 a very, very big surprise for me. I didn't expect it to happen 58 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:21.319 after the announcement of Randy Orton coming back, so I kind of just blew 59 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:25.600 it off, and sure enough, I was just as surprised as time as 60 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:30.120 I was when he debuted in AW. Honestly, I see him on a 61 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:34.160 one year Legends contract similar to the Double Boys when they returned in twenty fifteen. 62 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:38.000 He's gonna come back, He's gonna have some wins, gonna have some 63 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:41.240 losses, he's gonna have a title match. He's gonna come close, but 64 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.519 no cigar, and I think he rides off to the sunset with the Hall 65 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:48.000 of Fame induction, maybe as early as next year unless they extend him, 66 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:53.279 and maybe the following year. But this is a cash grab as well. 67 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:57.720 They already have his merchandise on ww dot com from the Survivor series, so 68 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.639 already said in the merch I'm excited to see what he's gonna do. I 69 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.399 know he has some real LFE beef with Seth Rawlins, and that's gonna air 70 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.000 out. I'm sure soon enough. I'm sure people are going to start talking 71 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:11.319 about that and bringing it up. Honestly, I see his first big feud 72 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:14.199 against Seth, and maybe as early as the title match, maybe for the 73 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.759 rumble. I think that would be a nice spot there. Seth retaining of 74 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:21.040 course, but like I said, Punk's here with his equity, with his 75 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:25.759 big name value to give back. So I also kind of see him with 76 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:28.439 maybe some of the edge treatment it comes, like I said, comes back 77 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.279 whin some loses some a couple of title matches, but not quite there, 78 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.759 but just to give back. Not as bad as the John Senior return recently, 79 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:40.800 because he's basically lost every match, but Punk's got some business here to 80 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.240 handle, and I'm just excited to see it on fold with his debut on 81 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:48.040 Raw coming Back or his return on Raw coming Back tomorrow night. Well, 82 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.160 that just leaves you, PJ. So what do you think, bro, 83 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:57.519 Well, I hate spoils things for you, but sources tell me, and 84 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:02.680 I've been on this since it happened. Seth Rawlins planted that seed in that 85 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:11.519 interview a long time ago, already from Triple H, already kind of knowing 86 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.240 that this would get out there. Intentions were already being you know, the 87 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:19.000 machine was spinning back then. There's no heat between these guys at all. 88 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:24.439 It was, It's all fabricated. This has all been a master plan of 89 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:27.879 what really needs to happen. I think these days in wrestling, because things 90 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:30.040 are so out in the open, and wrestlers all know it, so they 91 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:35.759 try to play. The work has become more for guys like me and other 92 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:40.199 guys in the business, has become more cerebral, and you have to start 93 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:45.079 way beforehand. So I think these guys understand that, and they are planting 94 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:48.680 seeds in interviews and so forth, and so on and so forth. They 95 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:53.399 did not come to an agreement ten days prior. I know that that for 96 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.720 a fact. I think Melcher reported it as well. This has been going 97 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.920 on for ten days. Nobody in the company knew other than Hunter and maybe 98 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:05.079 Evince, so this was a very tight ending secret. But from my understanding 99 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.519 is that this was the plan all along, going way back to when Seth 100 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:14.360 dropped that line at that interview that people think they have heat. I know 101 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.279 for a fact they do not have heat, and they're really happy to work 102 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:20.720 with each other. Nothing but money on the table. And I think that 103 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:26.000 if there are some of the boys who claim to be upset that he's there, 104 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.079 then they're just marks, dude. They don't understand that he's going to 105 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.560 bring business up. Everyone makes money. If the houses are up, you 106 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.519 get more money in your check. That's the bottom line. Everybody should be 107 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:41.079 happy he's there, and I think most are, and as Old Jr. 108 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:44.120 Said, business is about to pick up and it will. See. Himpunk 109 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:48.040 is a very short timeline only because of his age. I'm fifty years old. 110 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:51.439 I think he's got to be forty six, forty seven something like that. 111 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:58.920 But time is not on our side anymore. So his career has a 112 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:03.000 short leash, especially to be you know, in a company like WWE, 113 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:07.959 it's you know, it's intense up there, physically, mentally, everything. 114 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:09.759 So but I'm happy to see it. I think it's great for the business. 115 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:13.160 And like I said with him in ae W and I'll say it here 116 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.959 in WWE, the time to strike is now, you know. And I 117 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.720 think he recognized it. So I mean, this is uh, this is 118 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.439 the money he has to retire on. So he's gonna go out there and 119 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:26.319 make it. But I think everybody in the company should be happy because they're 120 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:31.600 gonna make it too. So I think it's great all the way around. 121 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.759 Okay, So now we're gonna go reverse around the table. Okay, and 122 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:43.440 I'm gonna start with Rocky who can benefit the most from defeating CM punk. 123 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.440 Seth Rollins is already on top of this game Roman Reigns. It does nothing 124 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:50.159 for him. But I can think of one person, and I want to 125 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.399 be the last to speak on this, whose career could be jump started into 126 00:08:54.399 --> 00:09:00.679 a Roman Reigns trajectory if he defeats CM Punk. So I'm gonna give it 127 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.879 to you first off the top of my head. The first guy that does 128 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.600 come to mind is l A. Knight. That's just because he's the fastest 129 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.120 rising star. I know he's got plans, well he doesn't have plans, 130 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.919 but there's rumors out there that he you know, is gonna win the Rumble. 131 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:18.080 But I think a career that Seampunk could be a career win for him 132 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.679 and that could get him into the next level. To keep him, we 133 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.480 know he hit a championship match, but to keep him as the championship contender, 134 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.519 you have to be a former champion, you have to be the legend. 135 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.840 And I think seam Punk is the guy to give back. That would 136 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.519 be the perfect guy to give back to now as far as him taking lost 137 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:37.360 it, like I said, Seth Wallins, yes, we want to see 138 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.320 the feud. People think that, you know, Punk's the guy to beat 139 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:45.320 Roman. I don't think so. But my top pick is going to be 140 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:50.759 l A. Knight. Okay, so we're gonna go with chef Michael Patrick. 141 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.279 Come on. I like the l A n I think, but I'm 142 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.080 more of an idea for Cody Rhades. You know, I think, uh 143 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:03.320 like fallen off flat with him at you know, from where the build up 144 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:09.639 was from last year to where we're at now. I really think that him 145 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:11.120 and him and Funk, you know, exploring, you know, some of 146 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:16.240 those emotions that they definitely love to play with. Uh, you know, 147 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.679 controversies, cash and and uh, those two guys can definitely bring it. 148 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.840 So I really think it'd be good for Cody Rhoades and his trajectory to maybe 149 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:31.080 one day be, you know, a universal champion. Okay, that's very 150 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:35.639 good, very good. I'm liking where you're going with that, So we're 151 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:41.440 gonna toss it to you. PJ. Well, Uh, this is uh, 152 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.879 it's a lot of question. But well it's it's it's it's you know, 153 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:52.720 to answer it, to answer well really correctly. I mean it's I 154 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.480 don't know. I really don't know who would benefit most. I don't think. 155 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.799 I mean, I don't think wins and losses matter as much as they 156 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:07.360 used to. I would just say this, I would be careful about Putt. 157 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.600 I like what you said with Elle Knight Rock. I think it was 158 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:16.240 rock right. Yeah, I like what you said about him, but I 159 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.840 would be very careful because if you put him out there with the gloves off 160 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:26.399 against see him punk, I think Punk eats him alive. I like Ellie 161 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:31.960 Knight. I'm very but I'm also surprised that the fans have taken to them 162 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:37.480 the way they have. I think there's something I don't know, There's something 163 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:43.120 about him that just does not feel authentic to me. He almost at times 164 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:50.279 feels like a parody or a clown of what a nineties or two thousands wrestler 165 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:54.159 was, And I think to actually be in there with a guy like Punk 166 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.480 would expose him. That's just me, So I don't know, but I 167 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:05.960 I definitely think that, you know, I don't think wins and losses matter 168 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.039 as much as they used to. I'm more, you know, I think, 169 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.320 to me, just putting them in the right match, regardless of wins 170 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.639 or loses, is more important than you know, who comes out on top. 171 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.679 But for for sure, so I think Roman reigns should be done down 172 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:26.159 the line. Obviously Rains comes out on top, does not hurt Punk. 173 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:33.600 Obviously they're doing seth rawlins, which again these should all be WWE guys coming 174 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:37.039 out on top. But you also can't do that to Plunk because then he 175 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.879 loses credit. So it'll be interesting to see which road they take. Cody 176 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:46.159 I do like, only because there's still unfinished business there. So that's that's 177 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.120 my dark horse, But there's just a lot of great and again just putting 178 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:56.279 them in that spot, just having another iconic wrestler to play with is great 179 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:58.600 heading into wrestleman a season. So either way you swing it, it just 180 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:01.399 it's good all the way around. Like I said earlier in the broadcast, 181 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.159 awesome. So I'm going to go with somebody who's completely off all of your 182 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:11.879 radars. He is the most underutilized man who has the most ringtanwel that no 183 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:20.759 one ever sees Nick Oldest. If he defeates Punk, he's automatically a main 184 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.960 event and the guy can already wrestle at a main event caliber, and he 185 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.360 can cut a promo like no one's business. He's a true professional. You 186 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.679 put him in that atmosphere where he's the one to take down Punk. It's 187 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:39.960 always the authoritarian versus the anti authoritarian, the anti hero, the slacker who 188 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.559 makes us all feel good. Well, now we've got the principal who can 189 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:46.240 do it. Oh this is what thirty six. He's not over the hill. 190 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:50.360 The guy is in phenomenal shape, dresses and looks like a million dollars. 191 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:52.559 He is in a goofy role being a general manager. We all know 192 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:58.320 it that. Man, there's something. There's way too much food left on 193 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:05.000 the table. I'm talking to two chefs here, Michael Patrick DJ, come 194 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:09.279 on, there's too much. No, that's a very that's a that's a 195 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:13.159 great, great, great uh vision. I did not see that. I 196 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:18.519 didn't expect that, so kudos to you. But yeah, I could see 197 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:22.000 that. I really could see that, and that could work because I know 198 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.159 w W loves close storyline and that certainly could be something that could do. 199 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.600 That could be money, certainly for the for the shows on a week two 200 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.840 week basis, So yeah, that that could work very well. But Mike 201 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.919 another money match well at the a W we just got to see him. 202 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:46.720 Punk and samo Joe another match that stems from the r O H Gallery is 203 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.200 something that I would live to see as well, which is a dream match 204 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:54.200 for me, and that's Punk versus AJ Styles. Oh my gosh, yes, 205 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:56.360 yeh. I don't know. I don't care who comes out on top, 206 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:58.960 everybody don't. I just want, honestly, I just want to clean 207 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:01.279 victory either way. I don't care who wins. Did they ever work together? 208 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:05.279 And in our waste? They did? You know this was back? 209 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.840 You know, maybe TNA when he was part of like when he was like 210 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.840 Raven Stooge. Uh, they might have worked together. But I mean chef 211 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.480 Michael Patrick, you have I think throwing it on that one. No, 212 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:22.320 I would love to see the Aji styles saying I really think I'll be help 213 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.960 excellent. It will be a great way to you know, I said that 214 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:30.000 that authority figure and then you know you're woven wondering, you know, what 215 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.799 are they doing with all this going? They get him in and uh, 216 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:39.159 it would be a hell of a program for that. I'm blowing away anyway. 217 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.080 But I think any type of talent they can get in the ring with 218 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:46.200 Pump, I mean, he can definitely enhance talent to a little bit, 219 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:50.120 you know, and bring some of these younger guys on. Anybody that wrestles 220 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.039 with him. Those isn't making money, you know, and and so there's 221 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.960 gonna be a lot of people who are gonna want some of that action. 222 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:58.519 I'm just very interested to see where things go. Definitely, like tomorrow might 223 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.480 at rawl. You know, who's gonna come out to come from him? 224 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:07.440 Who's you know, who is he gonna call out? You know all things? 225 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.320 Right? Yeah, well, you know you've got a good point who 226 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.039 starts off raw It's supposed to be the mouthpiece, So it's gonna be Seth 227 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:18.200 Rawls and punk. That's that's gonna be quite a little back and forth bicker 228 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:23.399 that we're all gonna want to watch it. Is it me? Is it 229 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:26.519 me? Or Seth Rowlands. I'm sorry to interv It didn't mean too bad. 230 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:29.879 I just I've been dying to say this that you want to forget? 231 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:33.159 Is it me? Or? It was like Seth Rawlins almost like kind of 232 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:40.639 like over like are you over him already? Like the goofiness, the whole 233 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:44.440 gimmick, like he's not an interesting guy? Are you sure that you know 234 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:47.600 what I mean? This is the way? Or will just bring relevancy back 235 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:51.159 to him? Or am I the only one that feels this way? You 236 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.480 know what I mean? Doesn't some goofy to you? Yeah? The outfit 237 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:57.399 to look off the top. Oh, I liked I liked him the best 238 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.759 when he was like leading Austin things and he had the Jim Jones character. 239 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:04.480 That's where I bought into him the most. And that's where they could have 240 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:08.359 really went with him and elongated that for a long time until they turn him 241 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:14.559 babyface in a more ceremonious way. But this, like this would be a 242 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.200 perfect time for Jim Jones' character was in Black Love, sitting on a throne 243 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:22.319 not liking anything. You know. But you have to look at the other 244 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.440 characters you have that weren't really created by W. W. Gunther Walter. 245 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:32.160 Walter has been Walter for years and that guy is basically what he does. 246 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:33.319 He is the ring general. He goes in there, he beats the snot 247 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.240 out of you, and he leaves you in a pile. That's what he 248 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.599 does and that's what he's great at. And they didn't put their hands on 249 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:45.160 it, they just exposed it. Now with Seth Rollins, when he was 250 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:48.759 Tyler Black back in the old Roh days, he was just a great wrestler. 251 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:52.279 And he is a great wrestler. I'm not taking that away from him. 252 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.200 But you look at the Bray Wyatt match when everybody turned on him winning 253 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:00.200 in the cage and how goofy it was. It's because he change his characters 254 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:04.519 so many times that you have nothing to sink your teeth into. You know, 255 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:11.680 people talk about Undertaker versus the Phenom versus you know, American Badas, 256 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:14.279 which was my favorite and he'll tell you it was his favorite because he actually 257 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:18.559 could sell, he could actually prove he could sell. But it's funny that 258 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:26.799 the Undertaker went through years upon personas, whereas Seth Rollins is going months upon 259 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:30.799 personas, and they keep getting goofyer and more outlandish, and you're like, 260 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:36.640 Okay, we got Willy Wonka come into the ring. Not trying to pitch 261 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:38.880 the new movie, but we got Willy Wonka coming into the ring, and 262 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.039 just like, okay, what version of it? And he's wearing goofy boots, 263 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:47.160 goofy rubber boots and dancing and he's supposed to be our babyface champion, 264 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.039 And you're like, just get him off TV. If he's not going to 265 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.359 wrestle, if he's not going to show me what he can do, which 266 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.160 is what he's great at, I don't want to see him. I want 267 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:57.200 to hear him cut a promo. I don't want to see him go over 268 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:03.759 on somebody that might be more talent than him. So but with that said, 269 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.640 like I love the fact that you guys embraced Nick all this idea because 270 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.759 I think that that would be the perfect way to get him in the program 271 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:14.720 with Roman. And then elevate all just to the point where all this could 272 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:19.799 be the guy wrestling. Say what now, Buddy, is there a reason 273 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:26.359 he is not wrestling Nicole? Is he? Yeah? They said he was 274 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:32.319 signed. Go ahead, Michael, would you say? I was googled to 275 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:34.559 see if he had an injury or anything, and I didn't see anything that 276 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.880 would pertain to that, you know, for him not wrestling right now, 277 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:44.200 so that you know, me being the second best pro wrestling podcaster in Louisville 278 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:48.359 behind you know, some guy named Cornett. Cornett said a while ago that 279 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:51.200 he thought he might be too old for Vince's taste, But Vince is out 280 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:55.480 of there now and they think that his brain is brilliant taste. Everybody's in 281 00:19:55.519 --> 00:20:03.920 their forties, yeah, and he forty six, Punk is forty forty seven. 282 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:07.039 When you go up and down that list, Randy is not too much 283 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.160 younger than me. I'm just saying that there's a lot, you know, 284 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.079 a lot of guys in their forties over there, man. You know, 285 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:19.079 isn't it weird also that now that they show the wrestlers actually having gray hair, 286 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.759 has anybody else noticed that I have? Of course, because I have 287 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:29.160 the whitest, grayest silverst hair you've ever seen, well, you've never actually 288 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:33.599 met Michael Patrick. So sorry, sorry, chef. All right, fifty 289 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:38.759 one from the room. I'm right there, brother, I'm right with you. 290 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:41.799 And I just turned forty eight two weeks ago. By the way, 291 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.920 did you well, Michael Patrick, you didn't see it, but you gentlemen 292 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:48.519 liked the pictures I sent you from the restaurant that I took Jennifer too, 293 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:55.240 very nice. Oh yeah, that's very cool. Yeah, I love that 294 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:59.440 woman. So anyway, getting back to brass tacks and baseball bats, we 295 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:03.079 have already ideas to pull somebody out of a pseudo retirement that I don't even 296 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.279 think Nick all this is forced into. I think that that's also a work. 297 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:10.319 And you would know better than anybody, PJ if if it's a work 298 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:14.319 or not. Because they said he was so talented and he bounced from the 299 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:18.160 NWA to Impact and he wasn't even with Impact for a whole year to bounce 300 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:22.480 a WWE, and they said he was working both for a while backstage is 301 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:26.599 producing now that from what I understand, the man's a brilliant human being. 302 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:32.079 As far as like making finishes and stuff, some people have said like he's 303 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:37.440 he's close to a Brisco or a Pat Patterson in what he can think of. 304 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:42.200 Well, I doubt it too, you know. And the reason I 305 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.440 say that, and the reason I got to say hold on to all of 306 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:52.720 this is very simple. The reason those guys were so great and the reason 307 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.480 a lot of the old WWE guys in the nineties, guys I should say 308 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:03.160 we're so great isn't because they're so special. But we had the reps. 309 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:07.599 You know, from ninety forty ninety seven, I wrestled two hundred nights a 310 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:10.799 year every year, ninety four, ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven. 311 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.440 You know, you were you were, You got your reps in And 312 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.279 I just don't think Nicoldis was ever in a company where you had those kind 313 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:22.400 of reps. And I think having reps really don't know something to you as 314 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:30.000 far as just knowledge and being able to understand situational wrestling just like football or 315 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:32.240 whatever, you know what I mean. The more you play, the more 316 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:34.119 you see things, the more you watch film, et cetera. And that's 317 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.319 what wrestling was for me. On the road in the nineties was like you're 318 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.799 working literally every day. You're in a different town every day. You're talking 319 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.279 wrestling every day, hundreds of days, you know what I mean a year. 320 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.240 And I just don't think he has those reps because he never because he 321 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:52.440 doesn't want to. I just don't think he had the opportunity to because it's 322 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.400 much different when you wrestle eight times a month to two hundred times a month 323 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.599 or No, that doesn't make sense, but you know what I mean, 324 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:06.079 I should say Jesus Christ. Yeah that was a Scott Steiner math. But 325 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:10.400 what I said full time wrestling, I just mean full time wrestling, like 326 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:15.599 wrestling all the time. Wow. That was really horrible myself. Yeah, 327 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:18.640 and something just can't to mind right now, we say somebody that can really 328 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:23.000 benefit from a went over Punk to catapult him into that title picture as well. 329 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:27.400 And for me, that's Sami say, you have him right on the 330 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:32.160 cusp of, you know, saying that he's the contender. He wants to 331 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:37.079 prove that he's a championship contender. I went over Punk would definitely solidify him 332 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.039 in that, you know, in that section, and and we're off to 333 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.640 the races with him, hopefully we finally get that semi title winning twenty twenty 334 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:47.359 four, you know, along the way if Punk's not the guy to face 335 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:52.000 Saith at Rumble, which would be the earliest because there's no pod in December, 336 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.519 then you could strink this out along, especially if Punk's not going to 337 00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:59.599 be on TV every week, you could strink this along. And I mean 338 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.200 Punk's ever won the Rumble. I'm just saying he could win the Rumble and 339 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.799 chatting Seth if they want to keep the title on Seth ti Mania, which 340 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.359 would be I mean, I don't know if they're gonna put the belt on 341 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:14.440 Punk. I wouldn't see that. But that's just another scenario. I know 342 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:17.160 people are going to be shooting out of their fantasy bookings. That would be 343 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:21.000 a second one for me if it's not at the Rumble and other guys that 344 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.240 he could work with, you know off the bat. You know, you 345 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:26.640 got McIntyre, you got Kevin Owens, like I just mentioned Sammy's and there's 346 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.480 a lot of you know, indie stars there that came up, you know, 347 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.640 through the ranks of r OH and you know, just like punked it. 348 00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:41.960 So we'll know a lot after all tomorrow because they yes, they did. 349 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:45.079 They put him in a bucket of ice water. I mean, going 350 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:51.000 from working with Steven Stone called Steve Austin to then work with nobody. It's 351 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.079 like, what the hell just happened? You know? I think we'll have 352 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:57.000 a clear picture, at least for the foreseeable future, what Punk's direction is 353 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:00.960 going to be after you know, his promo tomorrow. We should have at 354 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.920 least something a lot more meat on this bone because right now everything speculation, 355 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:10.119 because the world is buzzing with it with all speculation. So I'm gonna shoot 356 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.119 this one out to the chefs real quick. Rock Yeah, check this out, 357 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:17.759 guys. How about this storyline? The All Elite Wrestling was started by 358 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:21.480 the Bullet Club. The two original leaders of the Bullet Club are in WWE. 359 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:26.200 How about Punk starts dismantling anybody who's been part of Bullet Club. So 360 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:30.400 it goes after Finn first, Then he goes after Aj, he goes after 361 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:34.680 the Good Brothers and anybody who's ever associated with it. That's how you keep 362 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:41.240 them cool to build up for a bigger crescendo. But it's everybody knows. 363 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.720 Anybody who's a smart fan knows why he's going after him. And when he 364 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.960 beats them and they're actual matches, I mean, I can imagine Punk and 365 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:53.559 Finn having a great match as well as Punk and AJ having great matches, 366 00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:59.640 and you know, or I mean, I can see a whole different dynamic 367 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.599 to this. But make it inside trading, so to speak, like throwing 368 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.319 a lot of smart remarks in there, like this is for your friends. 369 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:07.880 Your friends cost you this, this kind of thing. What do you guys 370 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:12.720 think about that? Chefs got a lot of backstage attacks, but you know, 371 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:19.519 keep him active but not in the ring. Yeah, I like that. 372 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.039 I mean, you know, when it comes to a fantasy book, 373 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:25.599 and I mean, it can go anywhere. I mean, you know, 374 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.240 maybe the subtle hints, yeah, you know, like, yeah, this 375 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:33.559 is because of your friends. I'm here, I'm doing this, you know, 376 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:38.000 Like I said, I you know, I think that they got a 377 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.359 catching in a bottle where they got him there. I mean, they might 378 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:47.480 as well insert them in wherever they can to create as much house show movement, 379 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.400 sold out arenas. I mean, you know, and maybe the uh, 380 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:57.319 the small little uh vignettes and promos will be great and all, but 381 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:02.720 he definitely needs to have some action and fairly quake just to get the fans 382 00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.160 going again. You know, he loved to be in pretty good shape yesterday, 383 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.119 even know he had that T shirt on. But I mean, I 384 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.799 am I'm okay with that. You know. One of the things I think 385 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:17.400 about, Not to throw your topic off, but I think about Sally Arabia 386 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:22.480 show. You know, Train's right, Phil, You know he works for 387 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.880 a company now that you know, works three four shows a year in Saudi 388 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:32.119 Arabia. You know, would you go to that? But I'm down with 389 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.319 anything that they want to do with that man. Actually, you know, 390 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.200 I mean it excites me to see him back and I'm twenty five again. 391 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:44.440 It was awesome. Man. So our other chef, mister Peter, what 392 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.880 was the question again, I'm sorry you lost me. Well, how do 393 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:55.319 you feel about punk coming in as a storyline starts hunting? Yeah? I 394 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:59.200 don't know, man, I think I think right now, I think good 395 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.839 old Pepsi Fish is going to be doing very limited stuff. I honestly believe 396 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:11.480 they're going to maximize his his minutes in ways of like, you know, 397 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.640 I'm sure he's going to have, you know, like ex appearances on this 398 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.640 one, appearances on that one. He's not going to be on every show, 399 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.519 I think, to kind of keep that special feeling alive because as we 400 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:26.119 all know it could you know, you could ruin that very quickly. So 401 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:33.920 I think really into until WrestleMania, or realistically until Royal Rubble, we won't 402 00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.519 know where any of this is going. I think Seth is done with by 403 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:45.960 Royal Rumble, and I think the big match has got to be has got 404 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:52.000 to be. Uh. I would imagine in Roman Reigns, right, that 405 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:57.279 would be everybody's thought. I don't know who or loses in that because you 406 00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:02.000 know, obviously Punk it the guy to you know what, I mean to 407 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.519 be stabilized and be thrown Roman Reigns. But at the end of the day, 408 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:11.000 who is I don't know. So there's just a lot of amazing potential 409 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.480 here you can go and there. You can go three or four different ways, 410 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.640 and none of them would be wrong. It would just be uh, 411 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.359 you know, your taste or your you know, sort of like you know, 412 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:23.559 preference. But it's just right now, is just really saying, I 413 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.039 think we're all what I what I'm getting out of all this. We're just 414 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:30.960 all excited because you know, he's a generational talent. Guys like this, 415 00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:36.279 they're not coming around all the time. He's one of the guys that was 416 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:41.079 from that era that has really been untouched. AEW did a horrific job with 417 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.759 him and just shows how bad that locker room is. If you can't put 418 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:49.119 your if you can't control that situation, dude, you have a bunch of 419 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:55.000 children over there. I mean, I've heard horror stories from Jerry Lynn and 420 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.559 others saying that it's just possible that these kids just don't want to listen. 421 00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.440 Tony Kahan does not know how to run a locker room, does not know 422 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.480 how to run a wrestling company. And it's a shame because I'm a huge 423 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:10.400 fan of what AEW can be what it was in the beginning, and I 424 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:14.599 still think they can do wonderful things, but just not the way they're doing 425 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.759 it. I think they really need to. But anyways, but that's neither 426 00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:22.759 here nor there. But yeah, I think going forward that this is just 427 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:27.839 going to be blockbuster business for WWE from now till WrestleMania. Do just just 428 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:33.119 open up the check books, you know, because what AEW could have done, 429 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.839 WWE will do and that's make money. You know. I could even 430 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.519 fantasy book this a little bit further. Okay, guys, tell me what 431 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:44.519 we think of this? Was it Frankie Kazarian who was the Bull Club Hunter. 432 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:49.440 I would bring him in to back up Punk and they just like say 433 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.400 he was the hunter of a certain elite group because you can't trademark elite, 434 00:30:55.000 --> 00:31:00.200 so you know, and he would be like Punk's backup guy. And so 435 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.319 you've got You're not really a faction, but you've got your you know, 436 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.359 your two man, Okay, I got your back kind of guy, and 437 00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:11.079 I think that would be great to eventually lead to Punk can't win. The 438 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.680 Rumble argues to all this. They finally have the match, and all this 439 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.000 comes out of retirement, says, you know, I wasn't ready to retire 440 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.680 anyway, and you you know, and get one over like on Triple h 441 00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:23.359 Like, yeah, you saw my contract. You didn't read the fine print. 442 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.720 I've got the best lawyers in the world. We now have some really 443 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:33.119 primetime playing wrestlers. All this is fantastic. Cody can be fantastic, but 444 00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.680 he's overexposed and that's killing him. Orton's coming back, but Randy's old. 445 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.039 I said that years ago. Randy is hurt. Even if he's coming back 446 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.519 after two years, you got to limit what you can do with Randy at 447 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.039 this point. I love the guy, but you got to limit what you're 448 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:53.039 doing with Randy. But he's still a primetime player. We went from nobody 449 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.400 being able to challenge Roman too all of a sudden, We've got a handful 450 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:02.119 of players plus bron Breakers going to come up. And I mean, I'm 451 00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.799 sure he's going to be repackaged because you can't have a bronze Stroman and a 452 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:07.960 bron Breaker. I mean it's kind of like having two bald guys wearing jorts 453 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:16.759 right right justin you know, so so you know, hopefully he becomes Steiner, 454 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:22.000 but the point is there. And Walter Gunther, whatever you want to 455 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:27.880 call him, it's probably the air of the throw. If nobody sees that 456 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.960 there's money printed all over that guy, you are backwards. Plus l A. 457 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:36.720 Knight is hot, we might be on the verge of a whole new 458 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:45.279 boom in WWE history. Yeah, we have characters. We actually have the 459 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.680 characters for a change. Now would be the time, I mean, set 460 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.480 is thirty seven, Roman's thirty eight. You got La Knight in his forties 461 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.640 like just so earlier. And I think I also hurt this els. I 462 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.799 think Matt said it, most of your prime time players are in their forties. 463 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:04.079 Yeah, so you know that, Yeah, exactly, guys are resting 464 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.599 further into their into their later ages. And don't forget too, you always 465 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:14.319 have guys that can make surprise appearances like Rock Lesnar, like a John Cena, 466 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.640 you know, like, who's the other guy that just recently? Oh 467 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.599 my god, what is just somebody else we just recently? Goldberg? Oh 468 00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:37.039 never please never. Glenn Jacobs Kane could always show up, you know, 469 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.200 I mean, you know, you never know when Nick Foley could just be 470 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.000 backstage and put a mandle a claw on somebody. Ron Simmons who messed with 471 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:50.319 Ron Simmons even now. You got to be illegally really special to mess with 472 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.880 Ron Simmons even now. Uh so, you know you you look at like 473 00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:59.279 there's a lot of potential Rock. You're not telling me Rock getting one more 474 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:05.079 match before it's all said done. Of course he is Rock Rock and see 475 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.000 him too. Rock's gonna have one more match before it's all said done. 476 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:14.719 There's no there's just no reason for rock and punk. You know well that 477 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:20.440 that punk would never resign a contract without having the caveat of I have to 478 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:24.159 headline WrestleMania. That's why he quit partly m So, no matter what it 479 00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:28.679 is, no matter what match it is, that has to be part of 480 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:34.719 that contract somewhere in there. I don't know, not that he you know 481 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.599 what I mean, They don't do a lot of that ship believe it or 482 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.519 not. But you know, I can still but I can still see for 483 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:47.760 sure. Well, Punk has had a few wins at Wresmania. Two of 484 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.440 them were the money in the bank. He did have a title defense against 485 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:57.559 Jericho at Wrestum in twenty eight. But I look the other three singles matches, 486 00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:00.800 they were all lost. Is one to the Taker, one to Orton, 487 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.440 and one to read Mysterial. So if he's going to headline Mania, 488 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.559 I will think he negotiated himself for a win there. But like I said, 489 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.400 there's so much speculation at the moment. We'll just we'll see where it 490 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:19.480 plays out. What do you think, Chef man I I just like I 491 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.440 said, if you put him in with anybody, I'm happy to watch it. 492 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.199 I just uh, there can there can be so many different directions I 493 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.760 can go with it, I said. Him being older, you know, 494 00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.239 I don't know if they'll use him much it comes to wrestle Mania. I 495 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.320 mean yet, you know, I mean it's been what he left what nine 496 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.840 ten years ago? Yeah, he's different, Tvas is different. He's in 497 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:43.679 a different role. He's not worried about Punk taking his slide. I mean, 498 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:45.920 I'd love to see him headline of Mania, Don't get me wrong. 499 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:52.000 I mean it's part of the story. You know that never happened, so 500 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:54.480 I would love to see it. I just don't know with who. You 501 00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:59.480 know, maybe it is a Roman thing, and of course he wouldn't win, 502 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.199 But then we're back to you know, he gets the headline one, 503 00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:06.920 but maybe doesn't win it. You know. Well, I just gonna say 504 00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.800 that last night the landscape changed. Oh it did it? Sure did? 505 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.639 I mean just hearing that music at the end, it just I don't know 506 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:21.239 which is chills, goosebumps. I popped there, you know, it's weakness. 507 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.760 Rackete's like, who's this? And I gave her a little brief history 508 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:27.920 who he was, and you know, I don't know, it's a big 509 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.199 deal. You're right, the landscape has changed. And what a great way 510 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:36.079 to do it though too, because nobody expected it. It didn't really impede 511 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:40.320 on anyone's match. It really had no It didn't have any outcome other than 512 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.840 he's here. Tune in Monday, now, you know, being realistically, 513 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.239 they didn't. They didn't put over anything other than he's here. Let's see 514 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.960 what happens on Monday. And I think that's great. I think that's great, 515 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.239 and I think, you know, like I think we've all agreed that 516 00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.800 sky's the limit, and you know, business is about to pick up, 517 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:02.880 and it will and I'm very excited. It's gonna be a great time and 518 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:07.719 it's gonna be a great time for us. My Michael going to WrestleMania forty 519 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:12.599 in Philadelphia, which hopefully, hopefully I'm still hoping and having my fingers crossed. 520 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.199 We are in the land of a extream and maybe we can get some 521 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:22.079 Hall of Fame ideas coming, uh, you know with the ECW crew down 522 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:28.000 there, because there have been some roblads so wetty busy that weekend. Well 523 00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.400 you know, I don't we don't always let the cat out of the bag, 524 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:36.320 but now yeah, So then for WrestleMania, I will be heading to 525 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.559 Philadelphia and I will be there with mister p J. Piloco, just incredible, 526 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.079 one of our Wrestle Magic hosts who is here and uh, yes, 527 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:52.400 we're actually gonna spend a weekend together. God forbid, We're gonna We're gonna 528 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.000 spend a weekend together. We're gonna have a lot of fun, and it's 529 00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:00.079 gonna be a wrestling excursion. It will be documented for Wrestle Magic and the 530 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:06.559 WWE podcast dot com listeners and a lot of you are going to get texts 531 00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:09.679 and messages one way or another. But it's very much a thing that, 532 00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:15.239 yes, we've actually committed to. So there you go, folks, you 533 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:22.400 let it out. Well, I mean, honestly, and let's let's be 534 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:29.239 honest. Honestly. PJ approached me with this, and it's very it's it 535 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.800 means a lot to me. It means a lot to me. And you've 536 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.480 been such an amazing friend, you know, and so has Wrestled Magic as 537 00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.599 well, been great, but Michael and you especially have been such a wonderful 538 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:43.039 friend. It's something I wanted you to share with me, and I think 539 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.079 we've have a lot of fun together, and you know, I'm grateful that 540 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.559 that you're going to be there with me and Michael, we'll have to get 541 00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:54.679 you that upgrade that is twenty four for your yes, yes, yes, 542 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:59.840 yes, I'm gonna get there for anybody. Jennifer's talking about too. She 543 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:01.679 wants she wants upgrade too, but she's she has a twenty three. So 544 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:07.400 I don't know, you just you know, but I love that little firecracker, 545 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.840 all right. So PJ, why don't you tell them about what you 546 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:14.679 got going on this weekend on Fight TV? Uh? Yeah, just uh 547 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.400 this weekend in Hartford, December the second, Hartford, Connecticut, I will 548 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:24.000 be wrestling, well not wrestling, but making an appearance for GCW Game Change 549 00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:28.480 of Wrestling, and you can check it out live on Fight TV at eight 550 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:32.480 pm December second. So check that out and it will be the start of 551 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.840 something pretty good for me in GCW. I can't say too much more, 552 00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.199 but uh, you know, just incredible is making a comeback, that's for 553 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.480 sure. That's awesome. And also tell them how to reach you on social 554 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.760 media and any other ways. Yes, of course follow me both on Twitter 555 00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:54.280 and on Instagram at PJ Palaco. And of course you you'd like one of 556 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:59.599 my mini pro wrestling t shirts, go on over to Pro Wrestling Teas dot 557 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:05.519 com. So it's justin Hurdle awesome. Chef Michael Patrick. Go ahead and 558 00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.760 pimp yourself out, brot man. I'm one of the best chefs in the 559 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:14.079 Tri State area. Heck, maybe even in the country. Lifetime wrestling fan. 560 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:16.760 I'm now the executive chef partner of the Capitol Grill, but a former 561 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:22.559 restaurant owner for twelve years. Lifetime wrestling felix. I can still remember this 562 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:31.440 day sitting with my grandma watching Uh Buddy Rogers and her putting her putting people 563 00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:37.960 in the headlocks. Yeah it was. It was a long time ago, 564 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:42.599 man, And just if you ever remember Tennessee, look me up. Capitol 565 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.760 Grill. Can't go wrong. Best takes, and who knows, maybe I'll 566 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.519 get out there one day and open a restaurant again. Get a little restless, 567 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.679 you know, I think just can tell you I'm at a certain age. 568 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:55.920 You know, I'm fifty one, Like, what's the exit plan? 569 00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:58.840 You know, I've been cooking a whole lot. I don't know what the 570 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:00.880 exit plan is, but I got to figure something out because I can't do 571 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.760 this the rest of my life. Well. Also, tell people how to 572 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.679 reach you on Twitter or how to you know, if they want to talk 573 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:14.440 wrestling with you. Instagram? Is me right now at b Michael Patrick and 574 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:22.280 Twitter is be real and Patrick love to see and listen and talk to any 575 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:27.000 of y'all'd look, we'd love to have you again as a guest. By 576 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.719 the way, Michael Patrick chef and one day maybe you and Justin and I 577 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:38.039 can do a show on cooking sod. All right, rock Star go ahead. 578 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:43.679 You know, I think I mentioned to you last time we recorded it. 579 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.079 We should really get our handles out at the beginning of the show in 580 00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:52.320 case the listeners are not doing into the end. But anybody listening Rocky clubs 581 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:57.360 ers or seven on the X on the Twitter that's for my dedicated page for 582 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:01.079 all things wrestling. Haven't really been too much. I've been do you diving 583 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:05.920 into the holiday schedule at T Mobile. And I'm also back on track to 584 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.480 get in my business degree, which T Mobile is paying for very handsomely. 585 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.639 Might I add, so I actually have homework right after we get off with 586 00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.960 his phone this skype call. But uh, you know, I'm glad you 587 00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:19.400 guys were able. I'm glad all of us were able to get together. 588 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.079 Like I said, we're in three different time zones with the podcast this evening, 589 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.440 so I'm glad we were able to lock it down and get it, 590 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:30.480 especially with something that happened as big as a punk return and get in this 591 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:36.639 episode out before before raw, so you know, until next time. All 592 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.519 right, let me close, let me close it out, ladies and gentlemen. 593 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.639 My name is Michael Gross. I'm the captain at one four to four, 594 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.239 captain on Twitter or x whatever you want to call it. I've had 595 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:50.079 a blast talking to my co host, Rocky, my permanent co host, 596 00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.119 my good friend PJ Piloco, you know him is just incredible and an old 597 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:59.599 friend of mine who I've known both longer than the eithers and that is going 598 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:01.719 to be chef Michael Patrick. It's been a pleasure, it's been an honor 599 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.440 everybody. Thank you for seeing me return this Survivors series last night. It 600 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.599 was it was pretty awesome. But when it comes down to it, I've 601 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.840 had a blast talking to you guys. I'm glad that we could talk. 602 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.199 I'm glad that we could fantasy book and we could spitball things. But in 603 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:20.840 the end, I think all of us were older statesmen. We need our 604 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:25.639 sleep. So ladies and gentlemen, good night, good night, guys, 605 00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:39.320 Thanks for coming up, good night, Thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. 606 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:45.320 Don't forget to subscribe on your favorite podcast app so you don't miss a 607 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.679 show, or head to WWE podcast dot com and for all of these shows 608 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:55.639 add free head over to Patreon dot com slash WWE podcast. Until then, 609 00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.199 we'll see you next time.