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on this story. I did research and follow up on it and she it's
amazing. And with that, we're gonna we're gonna start. Okay. Being
a parent is obviously a rewarding job, and being a parent of an only
child can often create a very special bond because you have just one child.
I just have one child, that's right, and she's like your bff.
Right. Uh. Their child was doted on, spoiled by the parents in
the grandparents, and she usually got everything that she needed. She was the
only child of Clay and Sheila Fletcher, and her name was Lacey. And
this is the story of Lacey Fletcher. She had a very comfortable lifestyle.
They lived in a town called Slaughter, Louisiana. Oh, I say,
it sounds lovely, but it doesn't. But it place maybe maybe why did
I I don't know how. Hey, let's name this town Slaughter. I
know I'm always confused when they have weird names. But well, the question
becomes what happens when parents go from spoiling a child rotten to letting the child
rots? Oh, come antlea, really, this is bad. This bad.
Her ones caring parents ended up no glackeninger. But let's get into Lacey's
life. Lacey Ellen Fletcher was born on Monday. It was a Monday before
Thanksgiving in November. It was the twenty fifth, nineteen eighty five, to
the proud parents of Clay and Sheila Fletcher, the new family of three.
They resided in the small bedroom community of Slaughter, which I told you guys
all about Slaughter, and that is located in the east Blentcia Valencia Parish of
Louisiana. Slaughter is a suburb of It's a suburb of Baton Rouge, okay,
I mean, and that's the state capitol. When Lacey was roughly nine
years old, her family moved across town into a two story ranch style home
and it's in a gravel cul de sac in a very affluent area. It
was a nice area to live in and Lacey was ecstatic. The neighbors there
had children her age. She had people to play with. She's in a
nice area. Things are going good. And then you know, she had
her classmates. She had a new school. Her classmates described her as being
a nice, caring person who always made a point to be friendly with the
new students. She was one of those people, always nice to the new
kids. I loved kids like that. And she went to a place called
Brownfield Baptist Academy. The Fletcher family also regularly attended a Baptist church and that
was in a nearby town called Zachary, where Lacy was part of the youth
group. So you know, she's nine, she's ten, she's got friends,
she's living in a good area, she's in a youth group. She
was on the volleyball team in nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety eight, and
I mean that was one of her favorite hobbies. She loved volleyball. But
Lacy had anxiety and she had later been diagnosed with autism. As she got
older, her friends made note of several differences in her personality, like compared
to other kids that age. One classmate described Lacey and this is a quote,
not your typical teenager, because she liked children's things, not teenage things.
The other children noticed that Lacey did not seem as mature as they were,
so developmentally, she was becoming behind as far as emotionally, okay,
And there were subtle changes in her personality too. Lacey seemed to become more
withdrawn, and when she was about fourteen, this is about ninth grade,
friends realized that Lacey saw she got diagnosed with autism. So she's fourteen and
severe social thingsnxiety. Those that have never had a social anxiety disorder or a
social phobia, it's this intense fear of situations that are unfamiliar to you,
and you feel like you're going to be watched or judged, and so your
heart races and you become really, really anxious these situations. Like all of
us get a little bit of social anxiety, right, but we still go
in, we still meet with people. But hers became extreme. It got
to the point where she would avoid any social situation and she would go to
make up every excuse possible to avoid it, which we have done before to
avoid going to them. And it only worsened when they diagnosed her with ODDS.
I simply put, autism, as most probably know, is a neurological
and developmental disorder that affects how people interact with others, how they communicate,
learn and behave. And it seemed as though as Lacy got older, these
conditions became more extreme for her. It doesn't necessarily affect your intelligence, no,
no, no, no, it's just how you process the world around
you, right, Yeah, and yeah, exactly. She met with a
psychologist for about three years to help treat her, and she only seemed to
get worse. At this point, her parents claimed Sheila made the decision to
homeschooler because I think school in and of itself became to a ship. But
she's just her anxieties were high school, having to change classes, so it's
unfamiliar people in every well, not necessarily all of them are unfamiliar to much.
It's just too much for her, so she becomes somewhat of a reclusive
person. Friends and neighbors began seeing less and less of Lazy outside of the
Fletcher home after she began after she was homeschooled, like they basically never didn't
see her because now she has no excuse to leave the house right right,
She doesn't have volleyball anymore, she doesn't have all of this. Clay and
Sheila explained to people that were really concerned about Lazy that she had extreme social
anxiety and that her autism had progressed, and they that seemed to pacify their
friends worries as to why they weren't seeing Lacy anymore. Clay and Sheila continued
about their normal lives. The Fletcher couple will call them we're thought to be
church going pillars of the community. Okay, Okay, there's nobody seeing lazy.
Clay actually held the office of the president of the Baton Rouge Civil War
Roundtable. Oh wow, something you've been trying to achieve for years. Sorry.
Wow. It is a nonprofit organization whose mission is to educate in foster
and appreciation for the sacrifices made during the Civil War. So those the war
is actually really interesting. I am I mean, I am totally into.
Yeah, it's really interesting in our country. Yeah, yeah, American Civil
War. Yeah. Sheila served for four years as an elder person okay in
the town of Slaughter before resigning in February of twenty twenty two. Maybe it's
like their former city council. Maybe maybe I don't know. I don't know.
I'm just pulling out of my ass. I don't know. I should
have sent it up too before I said anything. She also served as Slaughter's
mayor pro term in conjunction with working as an assistant to the Slaughter City prosecutor.
Okay, she's way involved, way involved city politics. Yeah. I
don't know how I can be an assistant to the prosecutor without being an attorney.
I don't know what the rules are in Louisiana. I don't know what
they do in their but they wouldn't they do have different than that wouldn't work
here. Yeah. No. She also worked as needed as a police and
court clerk and then nearby town of Baker, Louisiana. She's got her finger
in the pie everywhere, everywhere. Man. They were very consistent in being
part of the community and were deeply respected by everyone. It was only a
few close friends in long time, long time neighbors that noticed the couple never
spoke anymore about their once vibrant daughter, Lacey. It's been years, red
flag years years. Years. When asked about Lacy's while being the parents would
reply that she's doing fine and she still lives at home with them, but
you know, she's got that social anxiety and autism, which I believe she,
I mean she had. After hearing that Lacey was still living under the
Fletcher's roof, neighbors realize it's been fifteen years since we've seen Lacey. Fifteen
years. Fifteen fucking years. Wow. Wow, Oh time goes by,
Yeah, like, oh, it's a blink of an eye. Fifteen years.
That's suspicious. Where was Lacey the whole time? You know? And
they're like, Okay, I get she's got problems. Doesn't she go to
the dentist? Doesn't she go to see her in fifteen Yes, she's not
going to be in the house every single day of her life for fifteen years.
You have to go out at some point to get treatments, what you
know. So people started asking questions and then her parents eventually said that she
kind of moved out of town. Oh, she just up and moved moved
out of town and that was the reason for her absence. I mean she
went to live on her own. Someone has severe social anxiety. Okay.
Unfortunately, Lacey's true location would soon no longer be a mystery. The community,
the state, nation, in the world would be aware of where thirty
six year old Lacey Ellen Fletcher was. And it is not a good It
is not good. This is bad, guys, warning you, this is
bad. On Monday, January the third of twenty twenty two, so this
is recent, this is recent, at approximately two thirty am, the Slaughter
Police Department received a call about an unresponsive person in the home on Tom Drive,
which is where Clay and Sheila lived. Sheila had called nine one one
and stated that she'd found her daughter unresponsive on the family's couch. Sheila and
her husband Clay had just returned home from a weekend get away. They were
on a vacation that night before she made the call. Sheila told the dispatcher
that the last time she saw her daughter was around ten PM when they got
home from their little trip, and the previous night she was alive and she
was well, but now she's unresponsive. A neighbor had visited the Fletcher home
and urged Sheila to call nine one one. That's the reason why she looked
called nine one one is a neighbor came over and said, you got to
call nine one one because the reason is this neighbor saw lady, and I'm
just gonna describe what she saw. She was on the family's nineteen sixty style
leather couch. This gets me very upset because this is a very upsetting story.
At first, responders arrived to the scene and the Fletcher's home was neat,
it was tidy. They found Clay and Sheila sitting on the at the
kitchen table, just you know, waiting for them, with their dead daughter
on the couch. The couple offered no explanation for the horrific smell in the
family home. Okay, and what they had just discovered before this is so
bad time, so bad, you guys. Emergency personnel quickly noticed that there
was one area of the Fletcher home that was not as tighty as the rest
of the house, and that was where the stench was coming from. The
partially nude and deceased body of Lacey was sitting upright in a shoulder deep deep
in a hole on the couch. The hole was in the couch. Okay.
The East Lanciana Parrish Corner's office was contacted, and immediately once authorities began
to investigate, they realized, wait, this situation, it's really serious.
Investigators discovered that Lacey was severely emaciated, she weighed ninety six pounds and was
I can't I'm having a hard time. Guy's gotta cope with me. She
was covered with rodent feces and multiple live insects, including maggots. Oh this
is gonna get really bad. Fecey's was seen smeared on her face, her
chest, her abdomen, and there were numerous insect bites found all over her
body, East Lanciana Corner. Doctor Bickman is his name. BAM reported that
Lacey's body was nestled in a hole on that couch okay, because it had
been worn away through the upholstery and the foam of the couch cushions by Lacey's
own waste and her body fluids. Oh no, oh, are you serious.
The scene had been described as if Lacy had melted or refused to the
couch. Okay, Hold on a second, he's a guy, okay,
So how long m hmm was she actually in that spot? Oh? My
god, to be used and elt and melted into to erode the sofa and
her parents just went on vacation. Yeah, they just Okay. The floor
beneath the cloud the couch where Lacy had laid had begun to buckle due to
the collection of urine pieces the fuck dude, Okay. Doctor Bickham explained that
the smell of the scene was so horrendous he had to excuse himself to the
front yard to vomit. Okay, Now, you know that's bad. He's
a medical example. You know that's bad. That's bad when he has to
vomit. I mean, you know, he's seen some ship too. He's
seen lots of ship. Oh, no, this is bad, It's very
sad. The parish district attorney, his name was Sam doc Kwala. The
aquila, I don't know. He described the scene by stating, it's smelled
of rot. We don't even treat animals like this. It has been suspected
that Lacy remained on the couch and in the same position for the last twelve
years. Twelve years. Yes, she was never moved to eat, exercise
or go to the bathroom. That is cruel, sneethat I twelve years?
Did they like channer to the couch? I'll get to all that. Doctor
Bickham recorded Lacey's official time of death at three oh seven am on Monday,
January third, twenty twenty two. Do you know how much suffering? Oh
she had to have gone through? Yeah. Absolutely. He believed that Lacey
had been dead for at least twenty four hours, if not forty eight hours,
before the authorities were even notified. Yeah. During her autopsy. Sorry.
During Lacey's autopsy, material from the couch and human waste were found inside
he's stomach. Doctor Bickham concluded that Lacey had been consuming pieces of the foam
from the couch and her own feces in an effort to pro the feat herself.
Multiple severe ulcers were found on the underside of her body as you can
imagine right, including her feet, the buttocks, and some moons were so
severe that they had rotten to the bone. Oh my god, she was
in severe pain. Severe for this stage, four pressure ulcers had to be
present, and they would have been constant pressure in the area for years to
get to the point where you have bone. Oh my goodness. Lacy's hair
was matted, nodded, and infested with maggots, although it's unclear how she
was exposed. Lacy was also tested positive for COVID nineteen. I don't know
it's time of her death. Wow, she must have got it from a
parents, obviously, Yeah, your parents. Doctor Bickham stated that Lacy's death
was the result of numerous years of medical neglect and ruled the manner of death
homicide. In thirty years of being a doctor, he stated that the scene
was the worst he'd ever been to, adding, and this is a quote.
I could not eat for a week. I cried for a week.
Okay, it's bad. It's a medical examiner I know the medical examiner.
I seen everything. Wow, they seen everything. They seen everything. Her
official cause of death was death's done from severe medical neglects, which led to
chronic malnutrition, acute starvation, immobility, acute ulcar formation, and assiomlitis,
which is a bone infection that leads to septus or septis. Oh God,
Lisa had not had medical attention since twenty ten, which would have been twelve
years before her death. And Clay and Sheila, they were her soul caregivers,
right. They never sought help for her. They never took her any
place, They never did anything for lazy. Shela claimed that she would frequently
clean Lacey's various wounds and that Lacey never once complained about anything. I find
that really hard to believe, really hard to believe. Her parents claim that
Lacy refused to leave her seat on the couch. I also find that really
hard to believe. I was just gonna say, you're not going to get
up and use the bathroom? No, because you know what, you're the
parents, and you're gonna make her get up, and you're gonna make her
go in the bathroom. She's an adult. And if you can't do it.
You call professionals that will help you. That's bullshit. I called bullshit
on them. Called bullshit. Yeah, I'm sorry, it's basic human.
They said they would bring Lacey meals on the couch and sometimes provide her with
a bedside toilet for her use. She said, they said that she refused
to use that toilet. I mean, if it was twelve years, she
had to be like twenty four when this started, and your twenty four year
old? Okay, And I understand she has autism, okay, okay,
but she went to school, she was a functioning ball team. Yeah,
she was a normal person. And there no, no, she did not
require that type of care. Get help for your kid. I means that
bad. She could physically do everything. And I really find you, Yeah,
this case, I find this. There. I guess that's what they
have to say because the truth is disgusting. They considered moving her to a
mental or a medical facility. No, instead let her ride away on the
car, but they said she she wouldn't cooperate. Oh okay, well there
you go. Well, and I guess we're just going to let you rot
on our how yes? Okay? And did they never have friends over we
tried. They never anybody over at their house. Apparently not right, and
where what about grandma and grandpa and auntson? Where's this whole story? Is
just fucking with me anyway, So no action was taken because the parents said
she refused to cooperate. So there you go, I mean, can't get
her to do it. In the state of Louisiana, if a patient like
Lacey refuses treatment, the person's legal representative can request that she before too.
Just like here, it's called involuntarily committed. So despite their saying, oh,
Lacey, Lacy wouldn't cooperate, they could have saved her, They could
have done something. They but they were adamant, you're ready for this,
okay. They were adamant that she was of sound in mind to make her
own type of decisions, and that they were okay with those decisions assuming she
made them. She was fine, Yeah, she was fine. She just
didn't feel like getting up off the couch for twelve fucking years. I'm wow.
They said she suffered from a condition called locked in syndrome, okay,
which is a rare disorder of the nervous system. But if that's true,
get her fucking hop Yeah, give her some medical home, give some fucking
help. People with locked in syndrome are usually paralyzed except for muscles that control
eye movement. Okay, okay, these individuals are conscious, they're aware,
and they have the ability to think and a reason and absolutely talk. Yeah.
So they're saying she was paralyzed, so she couldn't walk, she couldn't
probably were they feeding her? Apparently not that much. So she's paralyzed.
Okay, you have a family member. How is she moving enough to eat
her the couch? Yeah? Like, oh, you're right, that's right,
and her own feces, she's able to move. Let's not forget that.
Yeah, that's right, Thank you for reminding me. Yeah, I
mean, but you have a family member that this happens to, you're just
gonna let them sit on the couch and not get them any type of house.
It's Lacey's choice. Yeah, she's being really difficult. And how is
she being so difficult? They can't carry her out of the house if she's
and how are they tending to her wounds when they go to her bone?
Right? Well, the story is gonna make you really mad. Okay,
let's move on. Okay, So traditionally they're unable to move or speak,
but are still able to communicate through blinking movements. Have you ever read the
book? Was it The Bullet and the Butterfly or is that that on by
oh By Smashing Companies butterfly wings or something? A bullet with butter the book,
but the guy I have it, I'm sorry I read it. He
is locked in syndrome. He used to work for a magazine and he describes
what it is. He couldn't do anything but blink. And he wrote a
book. Okay, oh in real life the author, Yeah, okay,
he wrote a book. Wow, it's gonna kill me to it'll come to
you something with wings, butterfly wings. That's locked in syndrome. Okay,
I mean he's locked in. But he wrote a book, but he had
to have it through blinking. There was a computer and someone would do like
point to a B and then you blink. Oh wow, yes, so
he didn't write a book, yeah, normal way. He couldn't move.
That's locked in syndrome. Okay, where was I at? Because I'm getting
all fired up. I'm all fired up right now. The medical examiner said
Lacey didn't have the syndrome, and he only listed what he knew, which
was from the medical records autism and social anxiety. Okay. While under investigation,
Clay and Sheila Fletcher were not immediately charged with Sheila's death Lacey's death.
Sorry, that's Lacy's death. Sorry, I'm getting on told you, I'm
getting all worked up here. I need to take a second to breathe,
yeah, Shela. Soon after Lacey's death, Sheila posted on Facebook a post
that read quote, mom and Dad love you so much. This message stunned
a lot of family and friends because they were in like, what the far
kind of shit happened? Clays supervisor, his name was John Potts, had
known Clay for six years. His name was John told investigators the details are
horrific, There's no doubt about that. And I cannot conceive how something like
that could even happen with somebody I knew. Yeah, even somebody I don't
know, Jordan Club. I can't conceive that this happens. Clay had only
mentioned briefly in passing in January of that year that he had a daughter to
John, and he told he told John, his supervisor, that his daughter
lived out of town. So there you GOE knowing You've done something wrong because
you're telling people your daughter lives out of town. Some neighbors of the Fletchers
didn't even know that Clay and Sheila had a daughter. Mean, how would
they? It was only the long like longtime neighbors that knew Clay and Sheila's
family would have noticed Lacey's absence in family outings. Right, Yeah, you
think Clay had two sisters, two brothers, a brother in law, sister
in law. She led two sisters, They had a whole family. Blah
blah blah. This family would would consist of all the cousins and of Lacey,
and everybody would bring their kids. It's unclear when the family was questioned
what they really knew, except that Lacey was being well cared for and was
very reclusive, so she didn't want to come. Yeah, she didn't want
to come. They trusted that Clay and Sheila were you know, Yeah,
because you don't think your fucking family members are letting their child ride away on
a couch. I mean, it's disgusting. You don't want to Okay,
I'm all fired up too. Sorry, you can continue. And obviously they
had not been invited over to the Fletcher's House in many, many years.
Both Clay and Sheila were forced to leave their jobs, probably because all their
coworkers thought they were fucking disgusting animals. Ye right. Clay resigned from his
his position as president of the Civil War Roundtable in Baton Rouge, and his
supervisor, John stated that he was unsure at the time if Clay would ever
be welcome back. I must say no. Sheila was put on ministry or
leave and no longer worked for the city prosecutor and zactly, so they're waiting
for more facts to come out, Like what more facts do they need?
Well, I mean, I don't know. I'm gonna tell you what I
mean. I'm gonna tell you, Okay. In April of twenty twenty two,
just four months after Lacy's death, the Fletchers still had not formally been
charged with neglect, not even neglect. Not even neglect, which is like
the lowest on the to the district's attorney, Sam quote, I don't know
intended to bring second degree murder charges against them? What the fuck is he
waiting for? Because you are on fires. She doesn't normally talk like this.
What the fuck is he waiting? What do your goddamn job, but
he acknowledges is extremely complicated. H He said, the second degree murder is
a charge is proper because he believes the parents of Lacey and Fletcher intended to
kill her. In us sense, you can't leave someone rotting to the bone,
with maggots in their hair, starving to death, go on vacation should
and expect them to be fine. I mean, why didn't they just kill
her? Honestly, and they just smother her something? Why do they let
that smothering your child? But she believes that they went on that trip because
they knew, because they knew she was dying, and they didn't want to
be there let her die alone too. You know what? This is so
fucking sad. I'm just people never I mean, they constantly amazed me at
the I just I can't, I can't, I can't. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. Continue please. Clay and Sheila weren't considered a flight risk,
and that's I think that's part of the reason they weren't quickly charged, because
I didn't believe they're going anywhere. He said. The question on everybody's mind
is, quote, how could they be caretakers living in the same house with
her? And have her get into a condition like that. This is cruelty
to the infirm. We can't just let it sit and do nothing. So
they were arrested finally, Yeah, it got deferred. I'm not going to
go into all that. Grand jury determined charges were warranted against parents. It's
a lot, it's a lot more complex because they did just let her rat.
But she's also an adult. Okay, So the district attorney told news
outlets on a murder, you have to have intent. Did they want to
kill her? I want to say, yeah, they wanted to kill her,
which is pretty and it's different than the glad They wanted her to die.
They sure took the worst possible way. So the grand jury, this
is like shit you see in a movie. Gran jury, I told you
second degree murdered charges against Clay and Sheila, And it took five months for
them to be arrested on these charges. And the mandatory sentence is life in
prison with no possibility rule huh for a second degree mm hmm, wow,
right, that's pretty So the grand jury saw photos, Oh man, I
forgot about having to look at photos of the condition of Lazy and how she's
been found, and the members of the grand jury were so horrified by these
images. Medics had to be brought in on standby because of the shock of
the photos. Oh oh, man, I mean the medical examiner did say,
it's the worst he's ever seen in his head. He had to go
out and queue. Yeah, and he had to go ce so I can
I can only imagine. So they were indicted, like I said, second
degree murder for the death of their daughter. Their bond was set at three
hundred thousand each. Feels kind of low, but okay. Sheila was released
on bond at ten thirty that day. Clay was forced to stay the night
in jail, but he was released by ten am. Someone posted bond for
them. Oh, they used a bondman and their assets and they had money.
Yeah whatever whatever. Court case got delayed for a while and Lacy's parents
still maintained that they were absolutely not guilty. There was an attorney to represent
both of them, which the same attorney represented both of them. Yeah,
don't do that, that's a bad idea. They didn't want to relieve,
to relive the pain of losing the child through the media. They've been through
a lot of heartache over the years. Anyone who lost a child, knows
what it feels like, and he was saying that that was I don't know,
that's just a quote. I don't know why he said it. There
were multiple indictments. They've been through, They've been through so much, through
so fucking much. Kazireas wasn't rotten on a couch, rotting on a couch.
I'm so disgusted with these people. So their attorney fouled the motion on
twenty twenty three, didn't miss the charges filed and some Um, I'm not
going to go through all that. If you tell me they don't go to
jail, I'm gonna fucking go off. Hoscutters had inadvertently used the language in
the indictment referencing cruelty to the elderly and not to the infirm. Oh no,
which caused the charges to be thrown out. Why did I Why did
I know? Okay? Why did I know that you were gonna say some
shit like that? Okay? Oh go on, you bet it. Somebody
better fix that goddamn motion. Yeah, there was a second indictment. Okay,
they were reindicted. That was on Monday, June nineteenth of twenty twenty
three. They turned themselves into the police. They were granted bonds. The
district attorney said, we will ensure that there's justice for lazy and I will
proofread everything that gets filed from now on. Right now I'll be doing Somebody
lost their job over that one, and the public knows that caregivers will be
charged for neglecting or abusing a person in their care. I have not I
have not much, but I have a little compassion for them. But I
think we have to send a message. We need to take care of your
people better then you do your animals. Oh, you need to take care
of your people better than you do your animals. I just want people to
recognize if you have a situation like that, to take action. Lacy's death
was a crime against humanity. Yeah. I hope the endamond brings some spotlight
to victims of this type of crime. There's second degree murder trial doesn't start
to this year. Oh they're still in jail. No, they're out on
bond. Right, they're out on bond. What the hell do you have
two parents? I mean, I I just I'm sure they had a hard
time. Yeah, okay, but no, no, no, no,
no, there are parents that have disabled children who grow into disabled adults that
they have to take care of or that they seek help, like for care
for their children. I mean, she, as far as I know,
she did not have any physical disabilities, you know. I mean if you
guys in syndrome, you don't people with locked in syndrome don't just sit on
a fucking couch. You had to be in a hospital, like you had
to get like breathing. Two yeah stuff. I mean, and she's not
being cared for, like four Okay, let's say she doesn't say lock in
syndrome and she won't get up off the couch. You're just letting her like
rot yeah right there floor, like not giving not even caring for her that
way. I mean, they make adult sized you know, dips and things
that people can use. I mean they're not they're not even giving her the
basic care. Plus she's malnutrition mag they couldn't take the magic, starving to
death. I mean, this is just fucking disgusting. I just couldn't even
take the maggots off. No, even though she can't move, you madded,
so she's not even getting her hair brushed. Just how do these people
live with themselves? This is your child, This is worse than I think
almost any serial killer story that we've done is so And there's some some sick
bastards out there that have tortured and done horrible things to people. I think
this has to rank right up there, because this is just so sad.
I just I'm I I feel like I'm gonna cry when I leave here today.
You and I are going because this is just sad. It's just sad
and disgusting. And these people there's no excuse, No, there really is
no excuse. I mean, it helped. This is modern twenty twenty two.
Okay, let's say it's happened in twenty ten. This is modern times.
People get your child some help. They didn't want to spend the money.
I mean, what is really their excuse? What is the they wouldn't
because she's an adult, she could get medicators? You know, yeah,
Stapa, I mean, what is your true excuse? Don't give a fuck?
I mean, fuck, you want to stay in the couch? You
want you want somebody to rot in your living room? And how did she
how did she say she wanted to stay in the couch? Blinking? I
just I can't mad, and I can't talk about it. Anymore. Yeah,
I'll shut up now. I could rant on for another hour. We
will. I'm not going to bore you with my rants because you're probably pissed
as well if you've gotten this far into the story. Okay, anyway,
well, anyway, let's just let's take a second and just honor her.
Yes, she's in a better place. Had to be in about it has
to be in a better place. Right, that's poor. That poor woman
suffered horribly, and I'm glad her suffering is over. That's the only thing
I can say. And I want to thank Rachel Stiller for writing. Yeah,
thanks Rachel. She did a lot of research, and it is hard
to research this stuff and then write it. You get emotionally. Yeah,
there's been times we've had to put I've had to put stories aside. You've
had to put stories aside for years? Yeah, for years. I mean
there are literally stories that we've done that I can't too painful that I would
have to wait and just process before I could come back and write the story.
So I underst stand that this is a big shout out to Rachel.
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You guys can fuck off. Yeah, fuck off's a good word.
And I'm gonna say I'm gonna follow this. I'm gonna have to go home
and figure out when their trial is. I mean it's coming up, yeah,
coming up like June. I think, oh, not soon enough.
These fuckers are out just living their lives. God bless it. Anyway,
Okay, well anything else, No, I think you covered everything. So
until our next episode, don't kill each other. Bye bye,