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Gonna run right out to the Kate
Wait Commons spare hotline. We're going a

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guy, Cody Rourke. Cody,
how you doing this evening? I'm good,

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gentlemen. How are you doing doing? Doing pretty well? Trying to

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recover anyway. I've had the feather
flu for the last couple of days.

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Yeah, my voice is already starting
to go. You know, we're halfway

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through the show. The voice is
already starting to go. So it's gonna

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be an adventure. But you else, maybe I'll come out on the other

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side sounding like Adam Schefter knowing my
luck, if side like Adam Sandler,

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But you know whatever, that's that's
live. Cody. We saw a little

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bit earlier today Drew Sanders toward the
Achilles. I don't know how big the

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plans were for him per se,
but that does put a little thing in

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special teams, where he made most
of his bread and butter last year.

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Yeah, he appeared in seventeen games
last year, played a majority of repsolent

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linebacker. And I think the thing
that everyone was wondering this offseason is where's

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he going to play? Because we
were told by Sean at the NFL Scout

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and combine that that they're still gonna
work. They're gonna talk with Drew on

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figuring out where you know, he's
gonna play this season, and so we

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expectulate is he gonna stay to edge? Is he gonna move back to inside

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linebacker? Well, I think you
know now knowing the information now, this

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injury happened before the NFL Draft,
and obviously with Denver going with Jonah Ellis

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seventy six overall, kind of makes
it seem like they had plans for Drew

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to be an outside linebacker and maybe
because that fell through, it's all right,

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hey, we're gonna get a young
guy. Anyways, we might as

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well get this guy. Obviously they
had him high on their board, so

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obviously a blow there. But now
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be Jonathan Cooper, Baron Brown and
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you can see Nick Potito and Jonah
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you know, one of these guys
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special teams. I'm not sure if
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you know, maybe get a guy
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maybe have five guys there, you
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year, and that fifth guy play
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I'm very curious to see what they
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with the idea that Colton Sutton may
not be participating in team OTAs, who

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does this open the door for as
far as some of the young wide receivers

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on the team. Oh, I
mean there's a handful of guys. Nick,

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you know this as well as anybody
around this time the year. When

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you have a niney man roster,
you're gonna have like fifteen or sixteen wide

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receivers, fifteen or sixteen corners and
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think a receiver everyone's going to be
focusing on Marvin Mims, who has been

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Sean Payton has told us he's gonna
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I think fans are excited. They're
keeping an eye on Troy Franklin into Bon

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Bayley. Obviously there's two draft picks
in this year's draft, but I think

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a lot of people are overlooking Jalen
Virgil a little bit. Look, there's

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Brandon Johnson, who's still returning to
the mixed look Jordan Humphrey signed a one

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year deal. Philip Dorpsett still on
this roster here, But I think Jalen

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Virgil is a guy that is I
think was on track with the three man

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roster last year, had that game
against forty and I are suffered the injury

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right before halftime and had the torn
meniscus, had surgery missed all last year,

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he was on track to make the
fifty three man roster. And with

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the new return rules, part of
me has been wondering, is Sean Payton

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if he's really going to feature Marvinmims
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take him away from kick You're gonna
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him away from kick return and maybe
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That's something I've been thinking about.
But that's who I'd have my own.

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I'd have my Jalen Virgil. Bously
David Sills. The fit obviously is

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maybe in under the radar name to
watch. Sean Payton. I know really

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likes him. So it's a loaded
room right now, and there's a multitude

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of guys that are gonna be getting
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looking forward to seeing how that shakes
out. Talking with Cody Rourk myle High

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Sports, another area that has a
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running back room. Gavonte wasn't quite
one hundred percent last year, but he

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certainly had serviceable productivity. He got
muj A p Ryan returning, although he

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looks like a casualty just based on
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Julia McLoughlin kind of showed out last
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huge chunck of change to for a
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How do you see this running back
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great question. I mean, as
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out when you look at it financially
is Samaj p Ryan and looks Samaj.

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I think while he was very,
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last year, didn't do much for
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I mean, Denver's rushing offense last
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situation, the circumstances, Jilil McLaughlin
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lot of flash and a lot of
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in the run game there, but
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a little bit toward the end of
the season. He went through some ups

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and downs himself. I think the
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this running game. I think Gavante
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year. I think he's going to
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got more time, obviously to recover
the fact that he made it back from

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his injury he had two years ago. In the manner in which he did

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to be ready for the start of
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So what is the top guy there? I think? And then obviously

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I think you're going to see an
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see obviously Oddrick estimate I think is
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roster guy here. He's going to
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jalilga mean, Sean Payton has hinted
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for Jolil dating back toward the end
of last season, how they wanted to

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do more. Obviously knows his work
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so he's got a little bit of
an advantage. And but then that's where

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you have guys like Blake Watson who's
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to make the roster as well.
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playing out, I think it'll be
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it's gonna be Givonte, think it's
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gonna be oddroc estimated with the hope
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a Tyler Bady or Blake Watson on
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didn't see a lot of Riley Moss. So as he looks forward to this

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season, what do you think we
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right now he's pills him then as
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But more importantly, I mean,
how can he take his game to the

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next level? And what can we
really expect for him? You know this

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season, Well, there's gonna be
a lot of competition for that other cornerback

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spot on the outside here. But
you know something I wrote about a mile

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High Sports and I'm to talk about
on tomorrow's lockdown Broncos was you know,

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you look at the cornerback room,
there's Riley there. Obviously, the expectations

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were pretty high for Riley Moss.
They traded up to the third round to

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get him. Obviously they alongside in
the third round and Drew Sanders in the

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twenty twenty NFL Draft. Obviously,
the core muscle surgery threw a lot of

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stuff off because there was going to
be that competition between the he and Tomorray

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mathis his injury force le Broncos really
bringing Fabian Moreau at tomorrow suffered an and

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creator in training gap last year and
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starting at the midwady point of the
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it was benched a little bit there. So for Riley, I think the

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expectation has just come scalthy during training
camp and compete. My knowledge and what

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I believe with Jim Leonard, especially
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is Hey, it doesn't matter who's
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Every safety needs to know both of
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defensive side of the ball. And
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title is going to be a little
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are making mention of. And I
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at the cornerback spot. If you
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know how to play on the inside. If you play on the inside,

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you also know you need to know
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think Dever's got more competition volume right
now at cornerback. I think you're going

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to see a lot of guys in
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Tomorray Mathis, JaJuan McMillan, art
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I think is going to be a
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during training camp this year. There's
Reese Taylor's just a handful of guys obviously,

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Chris Abrams, Drain and Sean Payton, you know, deemed and kind

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of gave the designation as a flex
inside outside guy. I think you're going

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to see competition all across the world. I don't think anything's really set and

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zone right now outside a PS two's
job, and I think we're going to

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see him move around and play a
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I hope is the case and I
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To Cody Roarke from my I Sports
Locked On podcast, Cody, were

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you surprised at what felt like an
utter lack of attention to the offensive line

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this offseason? I mean, you
signed Matt Pert for whatever that's worth,

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Sam Mustafer, you know it was
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drafted Nick Corgiulio and glorious mustache and
mullet aside which he has sent shaved.

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It just does not feel like I
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vibe outside the center position. You
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Wattenberg, Forsyth, there must fur
there at the center position. But it

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felt like there there was just no
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Yeah, I think it was a
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I mean, all circumstances considered,
with never having to move on from Justin,

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obviously Lloyd going elsewhere, obviously having
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the Russell Wilson you know release there. I think there's just so much,

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but you know, you look at
it I think we're all worried and we're

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wondering because Garatbol is going to be
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he's going to account for I think
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his final year. So I think
we are all wonder them. He's never

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going to release him? Are they
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they haven't extended him, but they
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like, hey, he's going to
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starter. But Denver doesn't really have
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I mean, obviously there's Demontre Jacobs
who they like, who's been able

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to develop a little bit on the
practice squad. Alex Polchowski who made the

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fifty three man last year. They
like him. They have a couple of

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other guys. They got the guy
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in the mix to compete as well. But I really think that, Okay,

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you're going to have Ben powers.
You hope he plays better than he

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did last year. I think that's
going to be where the team is literally

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a confidence. They think he's going
to bounce back. Right guard Quinn Miners,

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obviously considered one of the best guards
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is due for a big time pay
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You didn't have the greatest year,
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some uneasy at the offensive line position, but I do think that I think

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Alix Forstyth is going to be the
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to it in terms of how Sean
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he's been able to red shirt this
and you know all of last year.

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And it also helps there you have
given snaps to the guy who you

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think, who everyone thinks is going
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bow Nick. So to me,
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a gamble and if it pays off, and then you know, Sean and

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George are gonna look like geniuses.
If the offensive line struggles and they lose

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guys due to the injury and the
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a couple of years ago, then
everybody's going to say, and how come

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you didn't address the offensive line?
I mean, dever, when they addressed

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their major needs first obviously this year, but you know, the offensive line

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I think was definitely a gamble on
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hadn't done at that position group Quodamy
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There was a lot of conversation where
some fans really didn't like this move.

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I look at it entirely different.
But you tell me what you think.

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Do you think with Zach Wilson's experience
in this league, both up and down,

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do you think there's anything that he
can provide to bow Nicks that would

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make him a better quarterback in than
year one? Uh? You know,

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure
if there's a you know, anything he

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could do to make boo better quarterback. I think competition actually is gonna make

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everyone better. I mean, obviously, I think the advantage he has he's

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got more starts than Jeris Didham and
Boenick in the NFL have a combined Let's

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say, you know, a guy
like Boonex is more overall experience dating back

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to when he played at college.
Obviously, between Auburn and Oregon, he's

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played in a lot of big games. He's ahead of the curb. I

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think mentally and obviously from a maturity
standpoint than most of these other guys are,

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but also look at it from the
standpoint too, Zach is trying to

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come into a situation where he's trying
to rebrand his image a little bit.

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I think a great mission. Maybe
we can look at, you know,

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Josh Dobbs, for example, last
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camp in the preseason end up getting
traded? He ended up getting traded at

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the trade deadline to the Minnesota Vikings. Maybe Zach Wilson can find himself in

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a situation like that, or Jeris
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can look at both of those guys
dinner. But Zach's looking to rebrand his

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image a little bit. A lot
of people I've seen are saying, like,

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it's Sean Payton, is you know, can Sean Payton fix him?

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It's not Sean Payton's job to fix
him. It's Zach Wilson's job to fix

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the issues that he's done from a
mechanical standpoint, But it's Sean Payton's job

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as the coach to create an environment
around his quarterbacks, including Zach Wilson,

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that allowed them to thrive in the
best way possible, and you know,

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at the end of the day,
it's going to be on Zach to be

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able to make the right reads,
the right decisions. And obviously we'll see

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if that pans out here. But
I just think overall, you have the

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experience factor. If I had to
give a bold perdition today, gentlemen,

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I think all who's going to be
the starter week one? And I think

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Zach Wilson's going to be the backup
this year with Jars to them going elsewhere.

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That's that's interesting and sort of dovetails
with my next question, and that

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is is that if the bow Knicks
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is that a massive disappointment. I
don't think so. I think so much

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depends on Okay, do we feel
like he's ready yet? And look,

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I think Sewn ultimately is going to
know. I haven't feeling that. Shawn's

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like, you know what, regardless, like we took the chance on this

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guy. He's never done this before, taking a first round quarterback. I

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think you are going to see him
go with them. If he doesn't,

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I don't think that means that both's
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I think and so hey, right
now, we're going to see where

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we're at right now, there's some
things that we need to adjust on and

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in terms of maybe getting you fully
ready to be able to be the starter

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at some point, you could see
a situation where it's one of those midseason

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handleffs, or you know, early
on in the season Week one. I

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mean, he's going to play on
the road in Seattle, hostile territory.

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He's played in an atmosphere just like
that, though when they played the Washington

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and I never seemed to really bother
him. Obviously, the NFL is a

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different level of competition. I wouldn't
think it's a disappointment, though. I

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think that when bo is ready to
play, we'll see him, whether that's

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right away or whether that's at some
point this season. Well, we know

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for any rookie player at any position
is always tough, but it's just seems

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to be a little more a little
more tougher playing a quarterback position, especially

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playing here in Denver when you're following
so many great quarterbacks like for Sean Payton

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setting up Boonix. If he is
the starter to come Week one against the

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Seattle Seahawks on the row, what
do you think kind of that is the

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best way to kind of set him
up for success. You know, the

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I'll set well, you got to
hope that Courtland Sutton's still involved with the

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team at that point. You know, obviously we're all monitoring that situation.

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I think Denver's far better with Courtland
than they are without him. And I

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also think they're here healthy going to
That's the main thing. Can the Broncos

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get through preseason? Can they get
through training camp healthy without losing any key

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stars. That's obviously something well knocking
on wood for here, but I think

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ideally to help a young guy out, he gets the start week one,

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come out and run the football,
have an established run game there with Javonte

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Williams and however, you know,
whatever the rotation may be at that point,

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and then if it, can the
defense play better than they have and

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then they did last year. I
mean, that's obviously the big big question

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that we have going forward. It
if they can do those things. I

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think Bo's gonna have some success early
on. But I think that's how you

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put him in a position to succeed. Cody. We we appreciate it as

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always, Cody Roar, Thanks appreciate
you guys have a go one yep,

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