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right now we have an argument to
make for our young king in sports at

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seven. Now, sports MAVs when
MAVs, When MAVs when one to eleven

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to ninety two pretty much crushed the
heat from the beginning. They were not

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playing around on a back to back
too. The man have said, screw

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it, let's go get win number
fifty. I think, first of all,

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before we talk about the main the
subject of this segment, for the

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most part, I do think for
all of the hand ringing and question marks

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about what this team was fifty games
into the season, we should probably take

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a second and just say, Niko
Harrison, Mark Cuban, great job,

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guys, Holy crap, this is
a fifty win team. And I'm not

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sure that anyone saw that coming.
When you make trades to go get PJ.

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Washington, Daniel Gafford, and really
solidify things. Not to mention the

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offseason signing of Dante Exhem, because
it'd be really easy for a team to

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go, well, that's okay,
We'll just let Josh Green and Jaden Hardy

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play a ton. We gotta do
much here. They're like, no,

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we have and it's time to win. Now, let's go. And a

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lot of that is based on the
urgency of having Luca. MAVs do good

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stuff last night. Twenty nine for
Luca, twenty five for Kyrie, a

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balanced effort from Gafford, Daniel,
Derrick, Jones, Junior, PJ.

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Washington all at twelve, and that's
get their fiftieth win of the year,

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and they can just kind of hang
out right now. They're locked in in

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a top six seed and it looks
like it's gonna be the five. Uh

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kind of crash coursing for a five
with the Clippers, although the Mavericks are

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just a game back at the Clippers, so technically they could pass them if

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the Clippers were to lose their last
two, the Mavericks were to win their

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last two. The Clippers are playing
who I'm glad you asked Daniel, look

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at that and Jazz and the Rockets, who are not going to be trying.

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So the Matvericks are gonna be the
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be the four. Me he asked, uh Tyrone Lou after the game,

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head coach of the Clippers, are
like, when do you start preparing for

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the Mavericks And he said, already
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Yeah, hell yeah, it's a
showdown. That's good. I mean,

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look at it. This is gonna
be fun series. And it's I told

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you as this for last months.
The team outside of the probably the Nuggets

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that I didn't want to play is
the Clippers. Now they've had a little

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injury though. I do think the
Mavericks offense now is going to cook James

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Harden on defense, so and James
Harden might cook us a little bit too.

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But I that's if I want to
talk about that when it's time.

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The point is right now, we
need to talk about Luca. There's a

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big MVP debate. I just think
he's done enough in the last stretch of

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the season that he should be the
MVP. And I don't know that he's

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going to get the votes here.
Well, all signs point to him not,

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but I guess so they don't submit
their votes till the end of the

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regular season. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand how. It's almost

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like you're just sticking with what the
odds were a month ago, you know.

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Yeah, I mean Jokic is a
heavy favorite to win the MVP and

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Luca's I mean, you could find
different numbers everywhere, but I mean he's

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like ten to one some places.
Like it seems like they Vegas believes that

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it's just a done deal. And
it's like, if the voters haven't submitted

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their votes yet, are you not
factoring in the massive charge that the Mavericks

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have made at the end of this
season and one, what the hell is

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it sixteen or eighteen or something crazy
burrow themselves into a quality seed in the

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West from being right on the brink
of the playoffs and doing it behind.

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Yeah, good play from Kyrie and
good play from the new guys, but

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essentially, this juggernaut freight train that
will be it's undeniable. I don't know

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how you can't look at that and
say, all right, you know,

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and then forget the fact that he's
just a highlight reel and Jokic throw some

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awesome passes and I'm not trust I
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should matter a little bit, just
like the Sports Center highlight plays that the

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dude does. He's got everything that
the league would want an MVP. So

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even if if there is anything nefarious, and there is like whispers of you

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know, what's better for the league, that would all lean toward Luca.

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He's a sexier MVP, sexier,
hasn't won it yet, deserving and then

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just the best player in basketball over
the course of the season. What is

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it? Thirty thirty five nine and
nine? Yes, like the first player

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ever? He has thirty four nine
for rounding up which they will, isn't

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it the and since the NBA merger, the highest total if you add points,

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rebounds, and assists, add the
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score machine, just production, the
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I have a notion that the people
buy and large that are voting on

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this are not watching every Nuggets game, They're not watching every MAVs game.

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They're probably looking mostly at stats and
whatever clips they can find of that whoever's

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lobbying for their particular players that they're
receiving right I mean, there's no way

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you can consume that much basketball if
you're a voter, Yeah, and you've

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got to do the eyeball test,
you know. But if you're an MVP

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voter, you're entrusted with go ahead
and watch fair the candidates that you're going

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to be voting on, and the
fact that the dude is figured out.

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And like I said weeks ago,
he's not a great defender, but he's

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a good defender, and he's a
vastly improved defender. He's no longer a

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liability on defense. Luca is trying
and he's got We all know he has

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incredible footwork on offense and that translates
with some effort and want to to defense,

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and it's shown. There's no question
he's added elements to his game this

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year that are now common for him. The QB one passes, you know,

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we saw a little bit of that
last year, but nothing like now.

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His assist dude, his his I
promise you, the sizzle factor of

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his passing is better than jokers.
Oh yeah, there's no doubt. Now

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if you're looking at pure numbers,
I don't have him in front of me.

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I okay, what's the numbers?
Comparison, Well, you start at

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points. Yeah, let's start at
points, Luca thirty four. I'm gonna

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round up on the points, Okay, Luca thirty four, Jokic twenty seven,

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Assist Luca ten, Jokic nine,
rebounds Luca nine, Jokic twelve.

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Now, I think they're the one
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five seed with fifty wins. Jokic
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I mean, if you're gonna say
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But Luke also makes three more three
pointers a game than Jokic. He shooting

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percentage is I mean, I'm sure
Joki, yeah, philler percentage a little

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higher, just but not by much. I mean, Joki is fifty eight,

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Lucas forty nine on the field.
That's a pretty big dispair from three

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Lucas thirty eight percent just thirty six
percent. I mean, look, the

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argument for Jokic is fine. I
think it's just the idea that it's seen

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as Jokic is the guy. It
should not be fair to complete that jok

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is the Guy's about as even as
it's ever been with these guys. I

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mean, based on stats alone.
The only thing I'm seeing there is a

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better shooting percentage. Keep in mind, Jokic is playing closer to the basket

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to Luca in most cases and then
rebounds. Okay, he's a little bit

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bigger than Luca. You gotta also
look at what what how valuable he is

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to the team. I mean,
and the Mavericks did not make the playoffs

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last year, and if they if
these guys that these voters are looking at

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the MAVs and just seeing that,
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This is because of PJ and Gafford, and Kyrie has figured out how

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to excel with Luca on the floor
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That's my opic. That is incredibly
my opic if you're watching this team on

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a daily basis or consuming them probably
more than they are. To me,

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it's kind of not really even an
argument. We're gonna sound like homers.

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Should we watch the MAVs. Yeah, and there is that, but you

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can show me stuff too. Murray
was out. Jamal Murray was out for

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good portion of the year two.
I just go back to that first half

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of the season when Kyrie was out
and they were trying to keep their head

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above water, winning games with just
Luca. Is it because he's teamed up

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with Kyrie? Would that be the
only thing that keeps him? Because who's

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who's you catches Kyrie? It's Jamal
Murray. Jamal Murray probably on some nights

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Michael Porter Junior will get hot and
you know, but his but is Murray

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in the same zone, elite zone
as Kyrie. No, okay, that's

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probably what's keeping Luca from the odds
being where they are is because well,

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he's playing with Kyrie. Of course
on the basketball reference, which to me

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makes no sense because it seems like
his numbers would go down with Kyrie,

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but they've exceeded. No one's asked
to handle the ball more than Luca,

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no one's asked to do more than
Luca. Make more decisions, change the

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game, and the things he's added, the three point percentage is going up.

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I mean, just a little thing, like just the little hat tip

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to the free throw percent throw shooter. Now, dude, he seems to

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be adding the full court pass more
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that's that's changed the sport type stuff. Not that he invented the full pass,

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but I mean, you're it throws
them very accurately and I saw Jokic's

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last so Embi won the MVP last
year, and then Yokic won the year

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before that, And all of Luca's
numbers are better than Yokic in that season

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his last MVP, and they were
the sixth seed in the West in Jokic's

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last MVP. Se yes, so
like okay, so all the numbers are

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better and they were a six seed
and Luca's got him up to a five

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and all the numbers are better.
I I don't know, I don't know

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if they're And this might conspiracy.
Maybe the league just doesn't run a reward

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that one little down shot of Luca
of bitch and moaning. I don't know,

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but how can it not be just
even fight right now? And even

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if Jokic then wins, but you
want to give it Jokic his third MVP.

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It's not like Yokic is like mister
personality, like the league is just

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salivating. Oh, let's get let's
get Nicola Jokic in front of that mike

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one more time. He's the guy
who didn't want to go to his championship

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parade right, like to go home
thing and just the highlights alone and game

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winners and yeah, Yokic has some
of those. I get it. Well,

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Luca doesn't have a scoop underhand,
you know, or a bank shot

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last second, fourth quarter. You
know, it's just endless. And Luca's

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not walking a donkey through an airport
either. It's not yet. Yeah,

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but there's a seven point difference in
points. Like there rebound difference. Okay,

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yo, Yokich has two more rebounds
a game, assistant, they're even

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Lucas seven more points per game.
We're setting scoring records out here. I

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mean, I just I sit here
and kind of go, okay, sid

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the NBA, I'm sorry, the
Basketball Reference Awards tracker has Yokic at fifty

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nine percent probability, fifteen percent for
Luca in second place. That's not that's

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too far. And then you get
to Tatum and Shay Gilgess, Alexander and

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then on I mean, at least
shake Yogas. Alexander's sexy and fun and

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new. Yeah, but that's what
some of his numbers are. His numbers

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clearly don't stack up to Lucas or
Jokic's. Like when you think of sex,

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appeal, newness, the future of
the league, all this stuff,

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I would think those are reversal even
yeah, fine, yeah, and hot

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like team wise, hot charging.
I don't know why all the intangibles don't

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lean toward Luca, right, yeah, so all the tiebreaker stuff leads to

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Luca. Then just look at the
numbers and yeah, a guy who's seven

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feet sorry, is out rebounding,
you know, a ball handling guard.

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Essentially. The fact that Luca is
one of the league's leading rebounders, yes,

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is insane. Yeah, top ten, ridiculous for a guy who holds

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the ball and produces more offense than
anyone, and he's yeah leading then rebounds

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and steals, he's top ten and
steals. And again we've done on this

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before. But you want to say, oh, is Luca a good defender?

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A number one? Yes, he's
improved a ton number two, tangible

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numbers, defensive rebounds, Yeah,
there you go, it steals, think

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about and you think about, uh
oh, I mean, how many times

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did Steph win it MVP? A
couple one two? I think later the

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show, Mike's going to read off
all the NBA MVPs. I actually haven't

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memorized the first one nineteen fifty six. Bob Pettitt please God, and Bob

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Coosey let's they read off. I
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I'm just trying to think about.
I'm trying to think of a comparison

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for staph two for the Greek free
steph went back to back fifteen and sixteen.

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Okay, Lebron won back to back
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Yeah, I don't know. Well, if you don't believe us,

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do you think we're a bunch of
Homers. Here's Dirk last night with Kevin

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Hart. Kevin Hart does his own
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thing during the game on ESPN two, and he had Dirk on and there,

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Man, I'm so mad. Yeah, he's breaking every one in my

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record. Man was it was over
uh on trail for him obviously. Uh,

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I got to know him. So
my last year was his first year

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in the league, and you know, uh, it was just great to

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see him get to know him a
little bit. And I think we saw

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that in year one that the sky's
the limit for him. But I honestly

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didn't think he could go there.
I mean the way he has no offensive

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holes in his in his in his
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He can shoot the step back,
he can go both ways, he can

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post, he's got the mid range, he's got the flow, he's got

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all the horse shots. Every year, I'm saying, this kid can can

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possibly get better, and then sure
enough next year comes back with more in

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his repertoire and hopefully mass fans enjoying
for a long long time. He's got

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horse shots, horse shots that should
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just the bits that Luca does pregame
because guess what, we gave you another

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gift for you to put on your
you know, NBA website, Like here's

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more stuff. Well, the reason
I was asking about about Steph, look

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at it's not like Luca's just camped
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just the fact that he is leading
the league or at the I think he's

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either second or third in free throws
attempted. He's not getting to the line

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because guys are flicking his pinky when
he launches a three. He's banging.

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He's bleeding every game, getting mauled
and going to the line and getting getting

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rewarded for it, which kind of
makes you wonder, why are you arguing

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so damn much going to the free
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league exact how I heard. So
they're finishing that, you're on a sixteen

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and two run, and in that
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in the NBA. Yeah, and
I guess you can't say Luca is not

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the main reason and are a big
part of that. He might be hurt

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by the enforcements because the league does
know that Gafford PJ. Washington are good

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players. They know what you know. Maybe he's getting because of that.

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Why are you overvaluing a team's final
record as much as you are? Because

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when Dirk Won is MVP, he
averaged twenty five points a game, nine

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rebounds, three, three assists.
Let me tell you something else the twenty

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nine the league wasn't talking about how
great players that PJ and Gafford were before

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they got here. I mean you
you had to kind of be a pretty

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watch the game fairly closely to even
know who those guys were. PJ was

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a stud in fantasy circles, just
putting up points on a bad team,

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but no one knew Gafford was like
the field goal percentage King Gafford with the

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MAVs. He is an elite big
man in this line. I think we're

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proving the point, yes, because
they're playing with that guy. But we're

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also proven the other point that just
because we didn't know any hardly anything about

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Daniel Gafford and PJ. Washington means
we weren't watching Charlotte. We didn't care.

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Yeah, Luca's been a name far
above either one of those game for

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a much longer time. I do
think it's us staring at Luca every game

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and everything on. You know,
your social media feed is mav centric versus

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Hornet centric or nugget centric in this
case, that impacts you. So yes,

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I would imagine on Denver radio they
could argue, of course, you

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Kich is the MVP, like what
are you even talking about? Yeah,

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Luca's done this and this, but
they could probably present eight to ten things

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that we haven't thought of to validate, you know, his candidacy. But

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when Dirk won, they won sixty
seven games and there are one seed.

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I just don't want it to be
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I don't know. It's well,
it is five days till votes are due,

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I think, or four days or
maybe they're I guess they do.

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I don't know what he's in the
next two games to win them over.

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I don't know what he would have
to do. Yeah, and I'd be

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okay with that. But is it
the league? Is it the league MVP

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or the I've never understood the the
definition of it is. I don't even

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know what it is, but it
seems nebulous at best. I mean,

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is he the the is it the
team MVP? Is the MVP of the

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team or is the MVP of the
league. Then I guess you do give

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it to the best team and the
best player on that team. Sure,

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pravy m v P provy Luca.
That's the thing that MAVs are pushing.

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They're trying to wear the shirts.
They're wearing shirts like they're starting their own

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campaign, which I don't know how. It's too late and it's too too

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late, but prave means top or
real in Slovenian, so they're wearing uh

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provy m VP shirts. I think
Luca does care. He wasn't going to

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lose to one guy. I don't
think he'd mind losing to Jokic. But

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I also don't know that Luke or
that Joki, not that this matters,

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but I only jokis really care.
I don't either, and I think it

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does, Luca absolutely, I mean
you when you're building that portfolio, I

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mean it he wants helps Dirk that
he won the league MVP, even if

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it was in a terrible season,
a terrible post season. Yeah, I

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mean that helps build the argument of
where Dirk ranks all time, agreed,

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And if Luca wants to be in
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he absolutely can be or higher.
And you know in an argument he's titles

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obviously, but you also need to
rack up some MVPs and the dude deserves

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this one this year and fingers crossed. But those Vegas ods just it's a

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legacy bullet point. Yeah, sure, an important one. Yeah, yeah,

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but Vegas scares me. Like when
when we saw the interview, I

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guess it was a little Tony Parker
and Dirk and Gasol, Is that right?

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Yeah? They all sat down together. Yeah maybe there was one of

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the way. Way. Yeah,
that's what the guy that hosted it,

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I forgot him. There's something about
sitting at that table, Dirk with the

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championship and an MVP. It puts
him at those tables. Yeah forever,

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and Luca, you know, if
he doesn't get it this year, I

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believe he will get one because I
don't think his numbers are going to do

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any type of drastic decline over the
next five years. I hope not,

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but uh, dude, this is
his year. This is one hundred percent.

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