1 00:00:15,359 --> 00:00:20,760 What is krack lacking? Fellow thermoucier after I am Dan Valley coming at you 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:28,480 win my certified fancabulous and thermonuclear af co host mister Grant Hughes. This is 3 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:32,719 part six of six of our twenty twenty three NBA offseason grades. Go check 4 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:36,119 out all the other divisions. They are on our YouTube and podcast pages. 5 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:40,679 And hey, if you're new, subscribe like comment on all our videos on 6 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:43,799 YouTube to help the al gooal love us back. Make sure you're subscribing to 7 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:49,719 both Spotify and Apple podcasts and writing reviews for Apple and providing five star ratings 8 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:52,640 on both Apple and Spotify. That helps us out as well. 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Had a big 18 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:29,239 development? Actually, not kidding. If you're watching on YouTube, great, 19 00:01:29,239 --> 00:01:32,400 If not, we'll just explain it. Check out what I found in my 20 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:36,760 house here. This is a I'm holding up a thermonuclear AF sticker that Dan 21 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,920 sent me with one of the first orders of our merch and I wasn't sure 22 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,040 what happened to it, and I mostly didn't want to answer questions from my 23 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,599 kids about what AF stood for. It was just in my office, so 24 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,239 I must have taken it out of the order and put it in the office 25 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:53,359 before I gave them all the other stickers. So I mean, I know 26 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:59,359 they know these words. I'm sure the poisoning the huge household the antidote was 27 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,000 I found it, so no poison. I'm doing great because I don't have 28 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:06,280 to explain what a F stands for to my kids, or you could just 29 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:09,240 tell them it's awesomely fantabulous. Yeah, well that's true. They do enjoy 30 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,360 the certified I got one of them a certified fantabulous shirt and it is in 31 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,560 the rotation. I support you and Adam from a friend of the podcast and 32 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:20,159 former coals and putting your kids is hardware knocks billboards. I love it well 33 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:23,280 because otherwise you have to pay for advertising. Like I feel like you know, 34 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:28,280 this is just a really this is like a nice work around the child 35 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:30,840 labor laws. Like you're to work, but you are putting the likeness to 36 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:34,159 work. I spend a lot of money on them, but I don't pay 37 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:37,840 them anything. So the least they can do is advertise we got the Southwest 38 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:42,520 division? Should we? Oh? Preamble mini preamble. I gave you the 39 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,560 windhorse finger there Like before, I said, preamble C is a good grade 40 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:50,039 you're passing. We say this before most of the time when we remember to 41 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,400 do this, uh C is not a knock and extrapolate from there like anything 42 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,439 below that maybe not so great, anything above that very good. And we're 43 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:02,560 trying to be uh I don't know, attentive to each team's individual circumstances and 44 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:07,520 their opportunities and lack thereof in some cases when handing out these grades. Is 45 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,800 that a sufficient preamble? You think? For absolutely no notes? It was 46 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,120 perfect. It's so good that I can't wait for you to read us what's 47 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:16,560 happening with the Dallas Bader? All right? That is where we start. 48 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:20,960 The Big Ones sign Kyrie Irving for three years and one hundred and twenty million, 49 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,759 with a player option on that third year, which will be his age 50 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:30,680 thirty three season. After that, they acquired Grant Williams structured ultimately as a 51 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:35,680 sign and trade with Boston two future seconds from the Spurs for Reggie Bullock two 52 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,479 future seconds and twenty thirty swap rights going to the Spurs. That's all convoluted, 53 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:44,199 but basically they got Grant Williams, signed Seth Curry for two years and 54 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,120 eight million, signed Dante Exum for two years six point one five. Where 55 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,879 are you laughing? I feel like that's basically The twenty thirty swap feels like 56 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:54,000 more than an asterisks as I'm reading, and I'm just like, nope, 57 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,680 it just gets Grant Williams. That's all we need to know about. Dallas 58 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:01,479 resigned Dwight pal for three years, twelve million with the player option trade at 59 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,000 number ten and Davis Burton's to Oklahoma City four number twelve, which turned into 60 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:13,479 Derek Leveley the second also acquired Rashaun Holmes and number twenty four which became Olivia 61 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,720 Maxents Prosper from the King's basically for cash using the TPE from the Burton's trade. 62 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:25,360 Uh. More or less, they lost Slash remain unsigned, Justin Holiday, 63 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:30,000 Dan Frank Nilikina no longer Dallas Maverick Christian Wood were about to win and 64 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:33,759 hang a banner for the in season tournament. I think thanks to I don't 65 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:39,399 think we mentioned Frank Nilikina in the Hornets podcast. So whatever happened like the 66 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:43,079 night before or actually it was days because my mentions I love that our brand 67 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,279 is strong and the hardwood knocks the discord and my personal mention just went on 68 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,959 fire. So the takeaway is the Hornets get an A. We've forget everything 69 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,360 we said about Brandon Miller. They get an A, and the MAVs get 70 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:59,759 an F because they lost Frankie Smokes. Christian would also unsigned Markiefe Morris, 71 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:03,040 the Pinson ditto. They signed the Dallas did Matisse table to a three year, 72 00:05:03,079 --> 00:05:06,959 thirty three million dollar offer sheet, which the Blazers matched. So no 73 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,160 ace wing defender on this roster, unfortunately, since that was a pretty clear 74 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:16,279 need. Nonetheless, I'll I'll just say it, this is a B plus 75 00:05:16,319 --> 00:05:20,959 for me. That's with Kyrie Irving being someone I just generally do not trust 76 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:28,279 to be on a team that I want to support or enjoy watching U succeed. 77 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,319 So, Dan, am I too high two low? With the B 78 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:35,639 plus? What about this offseason stands out most to you? I think the 79 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:40,319 so it's funny because it's a good offseason, and I look the Kyrie Irving 80 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:44,759 deals, just sub MAXI money three years rather than four. I feel like 81 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:47,600 that's a really good out that's at least a reasonable outcome, especially because of 82 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,839 what you gave up to keep him. He might have had more leverage than 83 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:55,279 that, and it allowed you to use your full mid level exception. I 84 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,759 like a lot of the auditions here and understand them. I think it was 85 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:01,959 good to go after mattist thought I bowl the Grant Williams acquisition. The money 86 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,199 is fine, the fit is good. Just giving up that twenty thirty swap 87 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,800 makes me uneasy. It just it makes me uneasy. So that is something 88 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,000 that kind of stands out the most. Room just like Ah, but they 89 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:16,920 got great value out of dropping down two spots. I love just kind of 90 00:06:16,959 --> 00:06:19,920 taking the flyer on Omax to get somebody with Shawn Holmes, who, frankly, 91 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,560 if he's healthy, should be able to go play for you. You 92 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:27,800 just have more shooting with Seth Curry. I think they are going to miss 93 00:06:28,199 --> 00:06:31,240 Reggie Bullock, like you're putting a lot of like weight on the shoulders of 94 00:06:31,319 --> 00:06:33,959 I know people say Grant Williams is the most switchable player, one of the 95 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:38,360 most switchable players in the league. He's not like this wing checking defender. 96 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,560 You had that, at least in theory, in Reggie Bullock, who defended 97 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,399 a lot of guards. Now it's okay, Josh Green and we're gonna see 98 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:46,120 Dante x him in that role. They have Derek Jones Junior now as well. 99 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,519 I don't know. If we mentioned that and so I get the theory 100 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,800 of him, I would probably land with a B plus as well. I 101 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,439 just I would have liked to. I don't know what they could have done 102 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,199 to get a better wing defender, So I don't know how I could give 103 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:03,759 them like a huge negative from there, but giving up a twenty thirty swap 104 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:09,040 to get Grant Williams and kind of keeping this weird, like big man rotation 105 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,079 is sort of uneven and now, what's the pathway to Derek Lively getting minutes 106 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,639 or you're just gonna bring them along super slowly as a rookie. Again, 107 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,040 you could talk me into like an a minus though, just because of getting 108 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:23,879 off of Davis Berton's and then like to drop down two spots getting the player 109 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,560 you wanted and then still ended up getting Mishawn Holmes using part of that trade 110 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,399 exception and at first you know what, Yeah, a minus pounce like the 111 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,759 process of those events, I can't give him an A for the twenty thirty 112 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:39,360 swap alone. I just it makes me wildly uneasy. Do you wonder if 113 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,480 maybe they would have just been better off taking Wallace at ten? Yeah? 114 00:07:43,639 --> 00:07:46,439 Like, that's the thought that's kept coming back to me, especially I like 115 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:48,959 him or because you like him, Well, I just I don't know. 116 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:55,279 I guess he's not quite the like can he guard threes? Do you think? 117 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,639 Is he just not big enough to do that? I probably not. 118 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,759 You guys, I think he could guard threes. That would make so that 119 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:03,680 would make a lot of sense then as to why you would have kept him. 120 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:07,519 Yeah, I'm just asking the question because I agree generally like to move 121 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,519 down and get off money and get the guy that and Lively that you targeted, 122 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:15,160 is like that was just I think even on draft night, we're like 123 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:18,600 as one of the better moves almost anybody made. I've since kind of started 124 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,480 to have reservations about Wallace maybe being really good, and so I'm coming off 125 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:24,959 that a little bit. But yeah, we're We're we're right in lockstep B 126 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:30,279 plus A minus. Good offseason, although like how much better is Dallas really 127 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,080 relative to the West teams that's trying to climb over in the standings like a 128 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,600 little bit, probably because Williams should help and a full I just I don't 129 00:08:37,639 --> 00:08:41,879 know a good offseason though it's yeah, and it's weird because it's I don't 130 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:46,759 know how high I am on them in the context of like the Western Conference, 131 00:08:46,799 --> 00:08:50,480 like the larger context of the West, Like what what opportunities did they 132 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:54,679 miss right? And what did they miss on? I mean, I'm uncomfortable 133 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,399 with them giving up a twenty thirty swap, but I'm not like, okay, 134 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:03,320 you know, but gosh, just I don't think it was like a 135 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,240 disaster. If Lucas still there, like you're probably fine and everything's hunky dory, 136 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,159 and Grant Williams will help you. I am gonna be fascinated by just 137 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,840 their front court rotation, as we already mentioned, like how the perimeter defense 138 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:16,679 is structured. And I also think, you know, they're really high on 139 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,159 Jayden Hardy. It's like that kind of there's overlap there with Kays and Wallace 140 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:22,399 a little bit too. And I think there's some Josh Green extension talk too. 141 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,720 I love Josh Green, So I mean that I don't know if they 142 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,720 would be an interesting landing spot if he ends up at the minimum for Hamadu 143 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:33,679 Diallo just like, okay, another physical body, but they want to Derrick 144 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:37,559 Jones Junior oute already he's not even like more of a like I guess, 145 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:39,200 yeah, you could place him, go get that wing. What he does 146 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,480 to you offensively, I know people just say space the floor screen and roll 147 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,039 with him, like that's just that's not how it works with Derek Jones Junior. 148 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,240 And I would just as you made me think of this. I know 149 00:09:48,279 --> 00:09:50,559 we're trying to move fast, but Jones was like a really vital part of 150 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,240 some zone looks on defense in Miami that were really good several years ago. 151 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:58,240 And so maybe years ago was that, Yeah, it was a while and 152 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:01,279 he hasn't come close. Again. Don't go after guys that are leaving the 153 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:03,919 heat. It doesn't work out. But certainly, if you have Kyrie and 154 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Luca, even skinny Luca on the floor at the same time, you might 155 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,360 want to think about some zone stuff and maybe that's the idea behind you. 156 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,960 Don't do we factor that into the off season where it's like, oh, 157 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,720 lucas in the best shape of his life, I mean, what could matter 158 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:22,120 more? Really? Like nothing peak conditioned Luca don Chi would be the by 159 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:26,919 far the biggest edition on the Mavericks offseason, even whateverything they did a minus 160 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:28,720 for me, I'm giving him a B plus, but it's an A plus 161 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,320 if Luca actually really stays in this shape and if he has abs, if 162 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,200 he comes back with ed, I need abs for an A plus. All 163 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,279 right, you got rockets to the Houston Rockets. They did a bunch. 164 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,240 Fired Stephen silas HIRTI Mayordoka, drafted Amen Thompson at number five, drafted Cam 165 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,120 Whitmore at number twenty. I have number twenty five written down. I'm an 166 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,799 idiot. Traded Brooklyn's own twenty eight second round pick too, Brooklyn for Patty 167 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,960 Mills and Milwaukee's is twenty twenty eight. Second, They signed fred Van Fleet 168 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,840 to a three year max deal. There's a team option on the third year, 169 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,039 his age thirty one season. They signed Jeff Green to a two year, 170 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,840 sixteen million dollar deal, the second season of which is fully non guaranteed. 171 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,120 They signed Jack Landale to a four year thirty two million dollar deal, 172 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:16,480 the final three seasons of which are non guaranteed. Then, as part of 173 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:18,279 a five team trade. If he thought I was gonna mistakenly say they still 174 00:11:18,279 --> 00:11:22,840 have Patty Mills, they sent out Josh Christopher kJ Martin, Patty Mills, 175 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:28,759 Usman Garuba, and tay Tay Washington for the rights to Alpha Kaba and Dylan 176 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,080 Brooks, who was part of this trade, signed a four year, eighty 177 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,799 six million dollar contract with one million dollars and unlikely incentives per year that could 178 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:39,000 bring it up to a total value of ninety million. It is on a 179 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:43,919 declining scale his salary, and the deal runs through his age thirty one season. 180 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,840 They signed Aaron Holliday, Trevor Hudgens, Jermaine Samuel, and Darius Days 181 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:52,840 all got to a contracts and grant. The biggest news of all, they 182 00:11:52,879 --> 00:12:00,000 Wave DaShan knicks a so so king. This is a great off season. 183 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,200 I think they hit on both of their draft picks. I think Thompson was 184 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,759 absolutely the right guy there. I think Whitmore is. I mean, we've 185 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:11,759 talked about this plenty, but a guy that was theoretically, you know, 186 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,480 top five, top seven, whatever falls to twenty, you just take them. 187 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,320 You just I don't care what else. Yeah, you just take that 188 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,919 guy, especially if you know you're you're already have a ton of young guys, 189 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:24,960 like, just take the flyer whatever. I've come all the way around 190 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,639 on the Van Fleet deal just because it's really a two year max and it's 191 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,279 almost impossible to have that be a bad deal really, especially if for a 192 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:35,600 team that needs someone to organize the offense, to make open shots, to 193 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,639 just kind of be a professional. That that's a big deal. I love 194 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,919 all the short and non guaranteed and team options and all the other stuff they 195 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,639 did. They really preserved a lot of flexibility somehow, while spending a bunch 196 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:50,480 of money didn't get Brook Lopez. I don't know how we've weighed like one 197 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:54,879 of the few deals that like everybody seemed to think that was gonna happen and 198 00:12:54,879 --> 00:12:58,320 then it didn't, I probably would be higher on them, I guess if 199 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,000 they got Lopez, but who knows, maybe maybe they couldn't have got the 200 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,240 second you know, second year non guarantee or partial or whatever on that. 201 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,679 The only knock is the brooksteal. I think I just don't know if I 202 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:18,120 if it's worth it to me to have his offensive shortcomings on board, even 203 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:22,960 though you do get great defense. I think probably if not for the kind 204 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:31,240 of postseason shenanigans and the just uptick in I don't know historyonics and like inflammatory 205 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:33,840 comments and stuff. If not for that stuff, I think I'd probably just 206 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:37,519 view it as well, this is an offense defense trade off. It's a 207 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:39,000 little bit of an overpay for that reason. But now it's kind of like, 208 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:43,559 I don't know. Still, uh, this is an a minus for 209 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:46,320 me, And I feel like when I started to say this was a great 210 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,399 offseason, you made a face. So I'm very curious where you come down 211 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:52,519 on this. I guess, you know, I like Amen Thompson more than 212 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,679 I did leading into the draft, and so getting him at four I prefer 213 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,919 Ausar Tompson, but I don't view that as a miss. And they can't 214 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,360 wit more. Just the value they get from him. I feel like you're 215 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,600 not criticizing them enough or giving them enough of sort of just this pullback for 216 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:13,720 they missed on brook Lopez and they clearly misread that situation. Now, the 217 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:18,120 chain of events that led to the Dylan Brooks contract that got so complicated that 218 00:14:18,159 --> 00:14:20,039 his value kept escalating, you know what, deals like they kind of diminished 219 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,679 in value after the initial reporting. He's just kept climbing. And I think 220 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,279 it's I know email or Dokah wanted him. I'm a Fred van Fleet tiding 221 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:31,679 great. I thought way better fit than James Harden ever was for them. 222 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:35,399 Frankly, what they're trying to do the two things that I worry about. 223 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:39,480 So I mentioned Dylan Brooks already, but specifically, Okay, it's great that 224 00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:43,360 you bring in his defense. Okay, who's your second best defender in the 225 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:46,519 starting line. I'm now assuming i'm and Thompson doesn't start. It's Fred VanVleet. 226 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,159 That's a little bit of a problem because does jor Barry Smith Junior making 227 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,679 Lee big faith in him. I'd love to see more of him at the 228 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,759 five. I think we will see more of him at the five. However, 229 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,559 you sign Landale, you get Jeff Green. What does this say about 230 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,080 what you're trying to do? Its center? Is al Prenschen gonna have more 231 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,600 of a quick hook? Because I don't like that. I think alperns Check 232 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,639 is really good? Does that make it harder for you to get to Jabari 233 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:09,639 Smith Junior at center? I'm not gonna like that either, And so it 234 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:16,480 feels like when you look at this roster there's just still too much log jamminess. 235 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:20,720 What is happening with Kevin Porter Junior? Here? Are we just assuming 236 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:22,639 Kem Whitmore Like ken Port Junior is good one of the best pot up shooters 237 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:24,919 in the league. Now, are you just not gonna play Kim Whitmore. 238 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:28,919 He's gonna spend a lot of time in the G League? There is This 239 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,240 roster is better from a pure talent perspective, is better? And late first 240 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,440 round picks or late first round picks, you weren't going to keep Garuba Washington 241 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:39,919 was drafted last year, Josh Christopher kind of flamed out. That's still just 242 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,399 like a weird chain of events, all of which to get Dylan Brooks, 243 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,200 and yet your depth chart is still so complicated to where it's well, could 244 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:50,039 someone's gonna be left out in the cold who shouldn't be? And it's like 245 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,679 is that optionality or is it an unnecessary log jam? Where it's like how 246 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,879 much how many does does Jay Shahn Tate get with Brooks and Tar Eason here? 247 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,360 And the best way to kind of play everybody on the print matter is 248 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:03,399 to get more of the Jabari Smith Junior at the five minutes? Did you 249 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,279 make that a little harder? Though? And so I just think there were 250 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,320 chances And I'm more worried about the Brooks deal than anything because I think when 251 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,320 you're at this stage of the rebuild, it's okay, yes we brought in 252 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:17,840 veterans, but like we can still experiment and having a twelve man rotation is 253 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,360 not the end of the world because we're not making the playoffs. The Brooks 254 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,879 deal, though, just like it's a and this is all to say I 255 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:26,759 gave them a B plus. We like there are things here I thought about, 256 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:32,159 like a B a B minus because to misread the brook Lopez situation, 257 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,080 I think that deeply, like thinking about how far into the discussions they got. 258 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,480 I'm gonna you know what, I'm gonna give them a b too, 259 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:41,120 because what deal did they win? Or like, I can't win more in 260 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,080 great value and that's an above average off season. Still, you didn't win 261 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:48,000 the Van Fleet deal, it's just not bad. You didn't win the Dylan 262 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:51,639 Brooks deal. It's declining. So I think you could say, well, 263 00:16:51,639 --> 00:16:53,840 it's just not bad. Are they gonna be able to rain in his offensive 264 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,600 inclinations? That's a bit the Grizzlies couldn't. What makes us think that Emaidoka 265 00:16:57,679 --> 00:17:00,919 is gonna be different? Maybe he will be. It's a bee, I 266 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:07,279 will say. If you're trying to sort of look at the Rockets off season 267 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,319 as an indicator for what the big picture plans are, it's kind of murky 268 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:17,240 just because they're really had a bunch of high lottery picks already. They're adding 269 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,599 really two more because what Moore sort of is that along with Thompson obviously, 270 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,799 who literally was a high lottery pick, but then you've got all these, 271 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:29,880 you know, fairly high dollar or relatively speaking on an annual basis, veterans 272 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,799 on short deals. So I would I would push back a little bit on 273 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,960 like the log jamminess doesn't really bother me, because this is clearly kind of 274 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,039 like a like a one to two year stop gap situation where I guess the 275 00:17:42,039 --> 00:17:45,920 theory. And again this gets into the murkiness because I have to guess at 276 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,359 it is that you know, by the time Jalen Green is really ready and 277 00:17:49,559 --> 00:17:53,039 Jabari Smith Junior is really ready, and Thompson like, maybe you're then trading 278 00:17:53,079 --> 00:17:57,839 Fred van Vleet as an expiring contract with other stuff for a star for a 279 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,599 longer or something. You know, I can't really figure out exactly what the 280 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,720 long term goals are. I just think in isolation it made sense to just 281 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,359 add some adults and sort of see what happens. And I also I didn't 282 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,759 I didn't talk about this enough. I think probably the upgrade from Silas to 283 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,279 Odoka is the biggest coaching upgrade of any team in the off season unless I'm 284 00:18:22,279 --> 00:18:27,440 forgetting something. And that might be something that just especially with the roster loaded 285 00:18:27,519 --> 00:18:32,319 with young guys who've kind of gotten to do whatever they wanted, that's not 286 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,039 going to be how things go anymore, and so that could really, you 287 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:40,759 know, one start weeding out guys like Kevin Porter Junior, for example, 288 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:42,680 This like this isn't going to be You're not going to be able to play 289 00:18:42,839 --> 00:18:47,200 the way you want to play here. So we're going to move you and 290 00:18:47,319 --> 00:18:51,240 it might just sort of give you a better sense of like what really is 291 00:18:51,319 --> 00:18:55,160 Jalen Green, because I don't we have an idea like there's this zach lavin 292 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,799 nous to him that you know, maybe that's what it is, but maybe 293 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:00,920 it's something totally different. And now that there's account of ability and organization on 294 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:06,559 both ends of the floor, we'll get a real clear picture. So I 295 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,559 just benefits from Fred van V's arrival more than anyone. Oh my god. 296 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,960 Yeah, for sure. He just take the tough, take the five worst 297 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:18,799 shots he takes per game away and to replace them with like theoretically open looks 298 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,880 or just he doesn't shoot them at all, and suddenly you know his inefficiency 299 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,039 is like you can deal with it. Yeah, No, I think that's 300 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,759 right. I like the offseason. I can see though, like you don't 301 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:33,359 like a mishmash of stuff happening here that doesn't all seem to square. I'm 302 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,759 gonna go B plus because you mentioned maybe I'm not factoring in the coaching bump 303 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,160 like on the court enough. And the other thing too, is I like 304 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,680 that based off who they were linked to over the not going for Hardens, 305 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,319 didn't go for Harden totally. Yeah, it's what that tells you though and 306 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,759 informing the future. And I'm saying I didn't wait this enough, which is 307 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:56,200 why they're getting a plus. Is they're not just gonna go out and make 308 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,759 a trade where it's because they're This felt more like we don't want send Okay 309 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:03,079 see the fifth pick, rather than we need to make the playoffs right now. 310 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,880 And that what that makes you believe is if we fast forward to around 311 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,160 the trade deadline and they're making moves, it's because they're making a higher end 312 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,480 move rather than like think about what the Hawks did with the jan Thay Murray, 313 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:18,519 where was probably more justifiable for them, Like you're not gonna go after 314 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:22,279 the fiftieth best player in the consolidate in the fifty sixtieth best player in the 315 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,640 NBA. You're gonna aim even higher. And I think there was a danger 316 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,440 where it was, oh, we're trying to accelerate this too much by going 317 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,480 for James Hartn's better than the sixtieth best player in the MBA. But you're 318 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,119 like two committed to acceleration. This was more about I think getting better about 319 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,319 the pick that they while improving sort of the circumstances both on and off the 320 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,559 court. And so I wasn't initially. I just wasn't giving them enough credit 321 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:48,119 for that people. And I think too, just the last thing i'd say, 322 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,279 You know, Houston is one of those markets that, like your cap 323 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:56,200 space actually does matter. I think it is a desirable place to be. 324 00:20:56,319 --> 00:21:00,799 So having the flexibility of all these non guarantees and all these teams granted like 325 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,000 a year or two years down the line in Van Bleet's case, preserving some 326 00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:08,240 of that flexibility to where if you really needed to, you probably could clear 327 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,240 significant space. All these rookie scale deals are gonna balloon pretty soon, so 328 00:21:12,279 --> 00:21:15,880 that's an issue too. But I think we're gonna weed some of those out 329 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:21,359 where, like you're not prevented at all from just saying yeah, we could 330 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,039 get to forty million, like we could figure that out. You know that 331 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,039 that that's on the table too. So I think it's one of the more 332 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:30,680 interesting off seasons. But but yeah, I think I think we're pretty close 333 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,480 on it. Yeah, I mean, you talk me into what would they 334 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,400 have gotten for you if they landed brook Lopez. It might have been an 335 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,839 eight plus. I think it would have been a flat a for me, 336 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,319 for although like the money would have mattered. I wonder how much they were 337 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,880 for two or three years. It absolutely would not have mattered. Well, 338 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,400 that's right, I just did the van fleet. I wonder though, like 339 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,799 how much of this because you may be right that they sort of misjudged that 340 00:21:52,839 --> 00:21:56,279 situation. I wonder if it was just Lopez kind of being ready to take 341 00:21:56,319 --> 00:22:00,759 a big deal and then kind of just having the thought of, like, 342 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,400 yeah, but I could go back and contend in a place that has resurrected 343 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,359 my career. It feels more to me like he just kind of had a 344 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,599 had an epiphany and just was like, no, I can't, I can't 345 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:17,359 do it. Did they give Were they offering him like three and like seventy 346 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,000 or something and he decided to take two and forty eight from maybe? I 347 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,519 don't know. I don't know. That brings us to the Memphis Grizzlies. 348 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:32,519 Another really interesting offseason for sorry, he might have had collectively the most interesting. 349 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,000 I mean, the Pelicans did nothing. We'll get to them. Like 350 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:37,279 the birds were like kind of all over the place a little bit. Yeah, 351 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:41,960 So I guess the place to start is the Grizzlies now have Marcus Smart 352 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:47,240 acquired from Boston and a three teamer that also involved the Washington Wizards. Tayas 353 00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:49,480 Jones is gone as a part of that, as are the number twenty five 354 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:53,880 pick and a twenty twenty four Golden State Warriors first rounder. Dylan Brooks also 355 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,759 gone. We just talked about him. That was essentially structured as a sign 356 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:03,119 and trade that involved the Heart and the Thunder. Desmond Bane signed a five 357 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,000 year submax I believe just a little bit one hundred and ninety seven million dollars 358 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:11,559 extension. Derek Rose on board for the minimum. This was another interesting one, 359 00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:17,240 treated three future seconds for swap rights on the lesser of Phoenix and Washington's 360 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,359 twenty twenty four and twenty thirty first and Isaiah Todd drafted Gigi Jackson the second 361 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,640 and Terik Baberovitch. Sure I didn't say that right at forty five and fifty 362 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,599 six respectively. Did I miss anything of consequence there? I do not think 363 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,319 so. I guess I won't get my grade yet because I led with it 364 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,160 last time, the market Smart deal. I was gonna say the one thing 365 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,640 they didn't decide well, and now we'll just get into that because that's more 366 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:48,039 of a no. I didn't love the Marcus Smart deal basically for any team 367 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,000 rather than the Wizards, and I understand the So you look at they're catching 368 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:56,640 two percentages Dylan Brooks and Marcus Smart pretty similar over the past three years. 369 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,160 The differences that defenses react to market Smart differently. They will actually guard him 370 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,480 more. So, Yes, that's an upgrade. Do you think he's an 371 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:07,480 upgrade as a point guard over ti As Jones The answers no. As a 372 00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:11,000 passer and decision maker, the answers no. I think he's a better player 373 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,079 overall, He's not an upgrade as an actual point guard. Now, the 374 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,640 fact that he can play and close alongside John Morant matters. And now you've 375 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,599 also rolled him into he's like a wing. So you play him with Baine 376 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,240 because of the way he defends, and you play him with Jaw. You 377 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:27,400 can win Jaws back from his suspension, so you can do that. It 378 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:32,680 felt like they were trying to check too many boxes for what they ultimately gave 379 00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:36,119 up, which was two first round picks, including I like the Warriors pick 380 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,359 might have been the best asset of anything including Jones and would turned out to 381 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,759 be Marcus Sasser that they gave up. The player needs to be better than 382 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:48,880 Marcus Smart, and it also makes me wonder he slipped defensively a little bit 383 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,200 last year, and so you paid kind of peak value for someone who might 384 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:56,079 already be not on the steep decline, but not as effective as he was 385 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,720 previously because of the wear and tear Boston put on him. And maybe I'm 386 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,720 ga bringing this because I've kind of thought I hated. I didn't like the 387 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,960 deal for Boston. Like I understand the two first round pick value, I 388 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,039 viewed it more as they extended Porzingis. So I don't know what to make 389 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:11,160 of that, but it felt like from their perspective, it was we're going 390 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:17,519 to capitalize on getting rid of Marcus Smart more than we're trying to get Porzingis. 391 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:18,799 When that framework, and I know they had a previous deal to get 392 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:26,119 porzingis that didn't include Marcus Smart. I understand that Marcus Smart can fit, 393 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:30,519 but if you were going to roll all of these boxes or want this one 394 00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:33,960 player to where all of these hats, that player needed to be a better 395 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,839 shooter than Marcus Smart is going to be and you've now you still have the 396 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,880 ability to go out and make moves, but like you kind of you didn't 397 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,759 ruin any flexibility. But like, I don't think getting him made you good 398 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,480 enough to say, well, we still don't need that move that we're all 399 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:53,559 talking about, which we need this bigger wing. I think that's a really 400 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:57,240 good way to put it, because I this is a c plus for me, 401 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,279 and and a lot of that has to do with I think Desmond Bane 402 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:06,880 is worth that, and I think getting just deciding you're done with Dylan Brooks 403 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,880 is a positive. The smart thing is I don't know what to make of 404 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,119 it. For all the reasons you said, I think this is essentially a 405 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,160 bet on because they are going to ask him to do like really the work 406 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,880 of Jones and Brooks basically right like and so those are two guys that mattered 407 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,000 a lot. They're asking him to do both, and it's a bet on 408 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,000 the fact that the slippage. I think people that you know, watch Smart 409 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,759 last year, people in Boston particularly, would would say like he was not 410 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,480 the same defender that he had been. I mean, it's crazy, but 411 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,240 he was Defensive Player of the Year two years ago. I don't know if 412 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,519 in hindsight that's going to age all that well, but he was not close 413 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,000 to that last season, and he's basically settled in as like a thirty three 414 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:56,079 percent three point shooter. I do think it's a little unfair to say, 415 00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:57,799 but it's not wrong. But to say, like, well, you know, 416 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,839 Tias Jones is just a better point guard that is that is accurate. 417 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:06,519 I think I look at it more as like Smart just replaces Brooks in the 418 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:11,079 lineups that I really care about, and he's better basically everything on offense than 419 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,200 Brooks is, especially if he has to make a decision with the ball that 420 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:19,440 isn't just take the worst possible shot you can imagine, which Brooks excels at. 421 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,799 So yeah, I think in the in the first whatever was it twenty 422 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:27,920 five games that Morant suspended or twenty what, I can't remember where it is 423 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,240 like, that's not gonna be. That's gonna hurt a little bit because he's 424 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:37,720 basically your starting point guard and he's probably not as good offensively at all that 425 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,079 stuff as Jones is. But I think in the like fully realized version of 426 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:44,400 this Grizzlies team, Smart, at least in theory, if he hasn't really 427 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,359 fallen off a ton, or if he can sort of slow the decline. 428 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:51,359 I like him there in the Brooks role. I think I think him Bane 429 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,720 and Morant together. I just you know that's I love that one two three. 430 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:59,839 There's there's such a diversity of skill between those three guys that it works 431 00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:03,720 for me. But you you outlined them, I share them. There are 432 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,240 real questions about is he being asked to do a little bit too much? 433 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,519 And bigger picture, they just still need another guy that they still need somebody 434 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,960 else to like up up the ceiling of this team. And yeah, it's 435 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,559 just I'm just wondering how much better they are even if the most optimistic vision 436 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,200 pans out. Maybe it's Zayre Williams hits you had to jump from Santhiel Daman 437 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,759 the other thing that they didn't do. And I don't know if you gave 438 00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:30,279 your grade yet on this, but the decision when you have so much room 439 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:32,920 beneath the first day print, unless you just don't value him, but following 440 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,640 the Brandon Clark Achilles injury, I don't know how you don't like you could 441 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,720 have made Xavier Tillman a free agent. Now handled that deal, and just 442 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:41,680 like the deal would say, yeah, I would have given him a raise. 443 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,279 Maybe he takes a little bit less on the back end of it then, 444 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,359 and you also get one of his years out of the way while you 445 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,599 still have all this room under the first apron. So I was a little 446 00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:53,519 bit surprised that they didn't go that route. Not a huge because I don't 447 00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:57,759 think I'm probably lower on Xavier Tilman than most like Steven Adams isn't gonna be 448 00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:02,160 around forever, and he can do some of the dirty work that Steven Adams 449 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,799 does, and like, do you always want Jaron Jackson Junior to be like 450 00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:07,799 a solo big at some point? Maybe that's the end game here. I 451 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,240 was just a little it was just like, why didn't you do this now 452 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,799 type of thing. That's that's fair. There is a C plus for me, 453 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,960 C plus for me for the grizz Oh they got they got a D 454 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:21,480 plus for me. That's a big you know, with the Desmond Bank contract, 455 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,039 people didn't think he was a no brainer. You got that without a 456 00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,640 player option. I will give them a C minus. Okay, perfect. 457 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,240 So now we're now we're in the neighborhood. You have the Pelicans, this 458 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,839 will be quick. No, I don't really feel like having the Pelicans. 459 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,680 You want to, you want to think them. No, But so the 460 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,039 New Orleans Pelicans. I wonder if we're going to diverge here. But the 461 00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:42,599 New Orleans Pelicans drafted Jordan Hawkins at number fourteen, signed Herb Jones to a 462 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,880 four year, fifty three point eight million dollars deal with no options that runs 463 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,119 through his age twenty eight season. They waved then resigned EJ. Liddell to 464 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,759 a two year, six point two million dollar deal. I believe both seasons 465 00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:57,319 were guaranteed. They signed Cody Zeller. They did lose Josh Richardson, he 466 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,279 went to the Heat. They lost Jackson Hayes the Lakers. They waved Garrett 467 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,400 Temple. Don't worry, he landed with the Toronto Raptors, and Willie Hernon 468 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,880 Gomez is now with He signed with FC Barcelona. I believe grant thoughts on 469 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,039 the Pelicans off season before I get my grade. This is what I was 470 00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:18,519 thinking about this this morning. We were very you more so than me, 471 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,799 high on the Pelicans at this time last year, right, And I was 472 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,640 justified because after a couple of months in the season, they were like the 473 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,920 second seed. I forget what the dates are. There's one of those things 474 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160 that we repeat all the time during the season. But they were second in 475 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,000 the West and like, I don't know, November December or something something like 476 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:40,480 that, and it was this is the next powerhouse that rising. And then 477 00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:45,519 everything went to shit and Zion had his off season and suddenly, you know, 478 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:48,480 I think most people would be much lower on the Pelicans now than they 479 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,640 were a year ago, and I wonder why, Like how much has If 480 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,200 you think about it, the roster is not meaningfully different, and I maybe 481 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:03,400 the reason is Zion has gone another year without staying healthy. Brandon Ingram missed 482 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,759 a bunch of time. Segar McCollum is a year older. Jonas Falancioni is 483 00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:10,319 a year older. Like maybe that's the reason. But isn't there a case 484 00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:15,319 to be made that we should just be as high or higher on the Pelicans 485 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,920 as we were a year ago. This isn't an offseason question. This is 486 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,920 just like a Macro Pelicans thing that's kind of been bugging me. The only 487 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,920 reason you shouldn't be is if okay, you just don't truy Ziah Williamson to 488 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,400 ever play in more than half the season, which I think is a fair 489 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:33,319 skepticism to have. But this is not a team that, in theory needed 490 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,839 to do anything major. I think my issues if we want to start with 491 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,480 the issues, yeah, well, first of all, I have no issue 492 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,920 with the Herb Jones contract. Will look a goodwill with the player, and 493 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,720 the deal is good enough to where it's like, oh, we'll lock that 494 00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:49,200 down now rather than worrying if he got the free agency. I know we 495 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:53,000 talk a lot about, well, our team's actually gonna give him a mega 496 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,440 offer if his three point shot doesn't improve. He shot well later end of 497 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,720 the season on ultra low volume. I don't think, you know, sort 498 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,799 of floor game and open space came along as much as the Pelicans would have 499 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,119 liked, and I have questions about that. The guy is going to be 500 00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,839 in all defense candidate for the next half decade. This goes through his age 501 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,039 twenty eight season, so it's not super old. He will peak at nine 502 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:20,000 point two percent of the salary cap if that, If that don't have a 503 00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:21,839 problem with, don't be one of those people that's like, well, they 504 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,519 ruined flexibility. No, they didn't ruin cap space. And if anything, 505 00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:29,559 a year from now he's more tradeable because he didn't just sign his new deal 506 00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,279 and he's making more money to where now it's easier to match, and other 507 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,160 sort of permutations. That was a that was a home run deal. I'm 508 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:42,079 actually shocked that he agreed to it. I would have taken Kobe Buffkin or 509 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,519 Keyante George at number fourteen. Those were the direct picks that went after them. 510 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,839 You can't get too mad. Grady Dick would have been way better. 511 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,200 He wasn't on the board. I don't end the Kobe Buffkin. A lot 512 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,000 of people are lower on him now. I just trust kind of the finishing 513 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,319 at the rim and his ability to defend and play off guard. I can't. 514 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,880 I can't hate on it. I don't know enough about out how Jordan 515 00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:04,880 Jordan Hawkins is shooting. Excuse me, is gonna translate? That should probably 516 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,960 be fine. I think my actual biggest qualm I would have liked. You've 517 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,880 seen them been more aggressive in diversifying their front court and moving on from Jonas 518 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,599 valan Tunis. Was there that flour spacing five out there? The answer is, 519 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,079 could they've been trying to get into the Christops Porzingia sweep stake since they 520 00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,559 have some of these larger contracts. Sure Porzingia's already went and got injured on 521 00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:28,599 another lower body injury, plant or Fascia. You can't hit on that. 522 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,079 Miles Turner is not emily available. What are the names? Like you weren't 523 00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:35,519 going to work out a sign and trade for Brook Lopez and so it's I'm 524 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,640 giving them in a minus because there's probably they could have done too. All 525 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,599 right, should we have gotten another point guard in here? To where what 526 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,480 happens if like who is their best point Like if Jose Alvarado just kind of 527 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:50,039 doesn't hit next year, who's there? Who's the best point guard on this 528 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,960 roster? Like is it just gonna be Kyra Lewis junior? In which case, 529 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880 oh, we can't move him, deduct the tax because he's our best 530 00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,920 point guard. Maybe they'll move in before the season they have there. I'm 531 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,480 gonna make this is what I want to make clear. They're ceiling. And 532 00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:07,199 you cannot say this about every team with this current personnel right now, even 533 00:34:07,239 --> 00:34:10,320 with well, well Yanni's valentus closed. Will he not close? Is they 534 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,800 want an NBA title? They didn't need to do anything major. They're going 535 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,679 to be fine. If Zion Williamson is healthy, if he plays in give 536 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,880 me fifty five fifty three games of Zion Williamson. This is a top four 537 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,840 team in the West. I don't know what does he look like in the 538 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,119 playoffs? YadA, YadA, YadA. They didn't need to do anything major. 539 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:34,679 If you're gonna make more of an macro decision, you need to wait. 540 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,320 Maybe if he gets injured again, do you do something at the trade 541 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,000 deadline? Do you make it next off season. They were clearly interested in 542 00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:43,960 Scoot Henderson, not at the expense of Zion Williamson, and you and I 543 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,719 had a debate on that. They didn't need to do that. They didn't 544 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,880 need to get rid of Zion, They didn't need to get rid of brandon 545 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,880 Ingram. Are you like, oh, should they be extending brandon Ingram right 546 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,039 now? Do you want to penalize them for that? I don't know why 547 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:58,480 you would. This isn't a minus because and I might even go be I 548 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,159 would have liked to have seen them been aggressive and chasing trades, but I'm 549 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:07,880 also looking at the landscape, what and who was realistically out there for them 550 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,599 to chase, and they just didn't have If you wanted to say, well, 551 00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:13,159 man, this is a team that really should have gotten in with the 552 00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:17,079 Monte Morris sweepstakes. They're in this situation right now when they're giving up that 553 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:22,480 type of salary matching to get even a nine million dollar player. You're not 554 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,760 giving up Dyson Daniels for Monte Morris. You're not giving up or do you 555 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,880 even want to give up Larry Nance Junior at this point? And then it's 556 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,960 like, well, teams aren't just gonna accept Kyra Lewis as filler. You're 557 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,360 gonna have to attach something to that. So you know, is Cody's Eller 558 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,760 the perfect sort of backup or if you want to call him Zion Jannis Larry 559 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,480 Nance and then there's Cody'sellers your fourth big I don't hate it. I'd prefer 560 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,280 Bismapiambo was just sitting there. I know he doesn't space the floor. Isn't 561 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,039 as good as a pastor as Cody's Eeller. I don't care. It's just 562 00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:53,320 what did people want them to do, and the fact that they did to 563 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,000 herb Joones deal. Now, I think it is a botus, not some 564 00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,840 sort of hamstringing decision that's been painted all right, So I have to set 565 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,880 more impassioned than you thought it was going to get on the word you. 566 00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,320 This is the most I'm going to move a grade because of your impassioned defense. 567 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,400 So he's basically like you were talking to me because I was initially I 568 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,119 was at a C minus on this on the thinking of what about a consolidation, 569 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:20,480 trade wise valance, UNA is still here, all this other stuff, 570 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:24,440 but your case for they didn't really have the ability to do the types of 571 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,960 things that I, in a perfect world would have liked them to do. 572 00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:31,440 And that being said, the only thing I really objectively liked is the herb 573 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,440 Jones deal, which we've lauded sufficiently now. So I'm gonna move from a 574 00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:40,199 C minus because it was unfair to say, well, you should have done 575 00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:44,360 all these other things when those weren't really on the table, to a C 576 00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:49,440 plus, which still gives us a probably our biggest disparity. I bunk the 577 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,280 Pelicans fans. My Venmo is deepa valley two zero three three. You can 578 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,880 compensate me for talking Grant into an above average grade? Above average grade? 579 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,639 Yeah again, C plus is it? No? Yeah, I think I 580 00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:04,480 think you're right. I think I think I was too low on them, 581 00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,440 and especially that's silly because I led this whole thing with like, why shouldn't 582 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,000 we think the Pelicans are just as good as they were a year ago? 583 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,880 Yeah, this is one of those where the specifics with respect to like what 584 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,960 was actually a plausible thing that could have happened for this team. Uh, 585 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:24,840 just make it such that like they didn't. Yeah, no Miles Turner, 586 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,079 no porzingis there wasn't. There wasn't a You could probably take just bigger issue 587 00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:36,639 with them not actively pursuing like guard upgrades, whereas like Shake Milton would have 588 00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:38,679 been really good for this team, Like that would be something you could take 589 00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:45,000 issue with more than just the front court player they need. I don't think 590 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,320 he's available, it's not. Pascal Siakam, Joel Embiid would be just an 591 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,559 interesting proposition for this team. I think the theory of porzingis but you have 592 00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:54,039 Zion on your team, and look, even Ingram has been injured and you 593 00:37:54,039 --> 00:38:00,239 want to get into Christops porzingis business, No fucking thank you. I think 594 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,639 so surprisure as low as c plus. I guess I would say the guard 595 00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:07,400 thing, and like there might be there was an upgrade to make at the 596 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,639 point guard spot. I think too, we could be talking this time next 597 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:19,000 year and this season has gone the same or worse than twenty one, twenty 598 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,760 two, twenty three for the same reasons, which is like Zion can't stay 599 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,679 healthy and Ingram just you know, is in and out and McCallum is aging, 600 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,880 and like, at that point, I think it will. So if 601 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,039 we end up in basically coming off a similar year for all the same reasons, 602 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,880 then it may, in hindsight, be fair to criticize them for maybe 603 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,599 we should have looked maybe they didn't look hard enough at moving Zion while there 604 00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:46,079 was still some value and he wasn't just about to log another twenty something game 605 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:50,360 season or whatever it is. But that's like, that's based on so much 606 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,280 speculation. That's kind of an unfair thing to put out there. The other 607 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:58,480 thing is is that I don't like Zion's peak value might have already passed, 608 00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,360 and so you're kind of in the situation where if Zion just isn't who the 609 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,199 player you expect to be, you're totally fucked anyway, So what are you 610 00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:08,400 supposed to do? And so I'm just like, look like we have the 611 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,079 debate and I considered if if Portland would take Zion for the number three pick. 612 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,599 We were that high on school you, especially like I became more smitten 613 00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:21,320 with him after Summer league, like you were on the Schoot Henderson bandwagon way 614 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,599 before I think even before he came out of the womb, if I'm not 615 00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:28,280 mistaken, so, but like it's just it wasn't out there, and it's 616 00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,360 if you're looking for something nuclear and I'm not talking there is at some point 617 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,920 if Zion is Zion's healthy this year at the trade deadline, and they don't 618 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,159 approach that with a sense of aggressive urgency, that's a separate grade. That's 619 00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,599 a separate thing to talk about. It's not the off season. We first 620 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,280 order the next offseason, and they're still kind of nonchalant. If they don't 621 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,960 win the title or make the conference finals, or Zion's not healthy, that's 622 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,519 when you like he is he's going into his age twenty three season, or 623 00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:54,840 he's still twenty three, but I think no, it's his age twenty three 624 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,840 season will be going into like this is maybe it's the last offseason of kind 625 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,599 of doing it this way, but it was still relative to the options available, 626 00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:07,800 it's the best it's the best weight of you this summer for them, 627 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,400 and I just I actually think if your grade it makes more sense to me, 628 00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:13,079 is like, well, like, why didn't they just go out and 629 00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,960 get like a guard, like a veteran guard, for so cheap. Yeah, 630 00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:19,760 that's fair, all right? We got one more here. This is 631 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,440 the San Antonio Spurs drafted some tall guy from France, Victor Wembanyama. I'm 632 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,039 not familiar. We don't need to belabor that one. Got Chetty Osman, 633 00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:32,199 Lamar Stevens and a future second by kind of sliding into the Struce deal between 634 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,000 Miami and Cleveland. Did something basically similar, getting Reggie Block to future seconds 635 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,440 and twenty thirty swap rights from Dallas for getting into the Grant Williams sign and 636 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,320 trade between Boston and Dallas. Acquired Campaign a future second in cash from Phoenix. 637 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,639 Signed Trede Jones for two years and nineteen million. Loved that. Signed 638 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,320 Juliana Champanni. Shampanni? Is that right? Am? I getting that right? 639 00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:58,119 Champanni for four years, twelve million. I don't know if it's a 640 00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:00,679 team option or non guaranteed, but basically the last three years the Spurs are 641 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,920 not necessarily on the hook. Four of those four years lost key debates, 642 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,280 yap Romeo Langford, Gorgy Jang, and also gave Greg Popovich a five year 643 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,239 eighty million dollar extension. That's wild. So, I mean, I don't 644 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,480 know what you do with that, but that that was a significant thing that 645 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:22,880 the Spurs did. Otherwise, like you know, got Wemby, but other 646 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:28,159 than that kind of uneventful. Other than just kind of finding ways to insert 647 00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:31,800 themselves into deals as like a third party to kind of grease the skids, 648 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,280 I don't know what to do with the Wemben Yama draft pick. It was 649 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,079 great franchise altering, but it was also like not a decision basically. So 650 00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:46,039 this is a B plus for me, just because I liked the opportunistic kind 651 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:51,320 of bent to the off season where we're going to just find ways to extract 652 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,480 assets from other teams that can't just deal directly with each other. And I 653 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,079 think the Tray Jones deal two years nineteen is terrific. I think I think 654 00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,760 he's like a low end starter at worst and can be much better than that. 655 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,199 And he's getting paid like eighth ninth man money, so uh yeah, 656 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,840 pretty pretty high on it. Even if we just I don't know if you 657 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,559 have it's if you factor in women Yama and what he's gonna mean, it's 658 00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:15,320 an a plus. But I just don't know what's doing camp because that was 659 00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:19,880 there wasn't a decision to make it sound like there was a debate, so 660 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,039 they don't. They don't get credit for Victor with women Yama. With that 661 00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:24,800 said, I still give them an a nice I love the Champagny deal. 662 00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:30,880 I love getting Reggie Bullock getting the twenty thirty Dallas swop. They made excellent 663 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,880 use of their cap space and the Thunder did not, And that's fair to 664 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,079 say. Now I have a quibble. Oh actually two other things. Well 665 00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:42,280 one other thing getting Dominic Barlow back on a two way I'm just based off 666 00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,880 like his just size, wingspan, like physical tools and some of the flashes 667 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,440 he's sewn on ball offensively. How is there not like an NBA deal out 668 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,239 there? Yeah, he really stood out at Summer League goal I think I'm 669 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,719 a surprise someone didn't come in and just give him a fully guaranteed So still 670 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,320 kind of having the like option of him just being there is a win for 671 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,559 them. The great popcial I didn't even have that my notes. I totally 672 00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:07,800 forgot about that. I love that just like there's certainty there and it just 673 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,480 makes it forget about wemben Yama. The message that might send to other players 674 00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:15,079 that are just like, if you're talking trades, eventually, oh, Pops 675 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,800 under contract, I can go play for Pop for more than a second. 676 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,679 I think that matters. My quibble would be which of these deals that you 677 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,960 pulled off would have prevented you from throwing your cap space to inflate the deal 678 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,199 on Austin Reeves for the Lakers or another restricted free agent maybe not like Cam 679 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,039 Johnson for the Nets. I don't think there was enough. Restricted free agent 680 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,480 like PJ. Washington wouldn't have been it for me. I also would have 681 00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,119 been rather I would have prefer Brook Lopez here to play with Wemby than than 682 00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:50,760 the Rockets. Like could you have been in on that and like gone just 683 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,800 been like, hey, Brooke, we'll just give you the max for one 684 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,239 you want a one year like what is it? Forty something million dollar deal? 685 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,760 Like all right, they couldn't go that high, but so they could 686 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,199 have on something like that. That's just my only qualm. But because the 687 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,039 players that they I would have been okay with them doing that for were so 688 00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:14,119 specific and the list probably tops out at three. When you're looking at like 689 00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:15,920 it's I can't be like, oh, and you don't get an A plus 690 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,480 because you didn't do anything groundbreaking. I think you were just smart. And 691 00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:22,920 if the Weben Yama pick was made and there was a debate between him and 692 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,280 Scoot and you made the Weben Yama pick, like I said to you, 693 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,760 I saw his worst game of Summer League, and I thought he was gonna 694 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,800 be like the greatest player ever. Do you think if they go would have 695 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,280 been four for like ninety eight or like one on one for Reeves? I 696 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,840 forget where it would have topped out the Lakers just they just match right, 697 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,280 like is there any chance they get him? Get Austin Reeves? If if 698 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,239 you don't want Austin Reeves, I understand that, but you could have gone 699 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,519 like there was a there was an in between, like you could give a 700 00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:55,719 smaller poison pill than like you do you have to go for for nine figures. 701 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,599 I think I would have paid him for for nine figures from saying but 702 00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:01,639 if you want him, you could have done something like four and eighty and 703 00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:05,960 just been like we really fucked with the Lakers books. Do you think that 704 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,639 precludes them from getting into the signing trades though? Like would that have tied 705 00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:13,960 things up between so they maybe that don't get Bullock in that swap, or 706 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,039 they don't get Osman and Stevens and you know, I forget a future second 707 00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:22,880 or something. It ties up your cap space for what forty eight hours? 708 00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:27,400 Yeah, I just they didn't make the Cleveland deal. Didn't because I guess 709 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,800 because you agree to it earlier. But like, I think the most important 710 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,920 thing they did with their cap space, I mean even getting campaign it's like 711 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,960 another ball hand. I get it makes sense, but like that didn't happen 712 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,039 the Spurs deal with Reggie Bullock and Grant Williams that leaked, that was complete 713 00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:43,400 on July twelfth. Yeah, you had time to go out there and be 714 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,320 like, hey, to mess up the Lakers plants. Now, maybe there 715 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,920 was some urgency with the Calves deal because they wanted true so bad. But 716 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,440 like if you miss out on Jetty Osman, who gives you some shooting and 717 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:58,880 waving Lamar Stevens and at a twenty thirty second, then okay, like right, 718 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,239 no great offseason, just you know It's kind of funny that like we're 719 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,639 just not considering whom ban Yama, but we just we just can't do it. 720 00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:14,639 So that's gonna do it though, for our what's sixth and final offseason 721 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,960 Division Grade Extravaganza bonanza. So, Dan, unless you have anything to add, 722 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,840 I will take us out by encouraging everyone. 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