WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:21.440 day. Now Here's Nick Coffee. For many years now, as soon as 3 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:28.239 one of the local media members gets a picture of the prices for everything you 4 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:32.359 can buy at Derby, at Churchill Downs, I should say during Derby Week, 5 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:36.799 not just Derby, the men, julips, the lilies, you know, 6 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:40.320 domestic beer, premium beer. We get a price list and it usually 7 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:44.759 results in everybody just claiming, oh my goodness, the greed of Churchill Downs 8 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:51.320 and look, things are going to be expensive during Derby Week. That's always 9 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:55.880 been the case. But what I don't remember is the price the year before. 10 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:00.840 Like, I feel like these prices are very similar to but people were 11 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:06.040 paying last year. The only one that is different is the mint julep. 12 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:10.560 So the mint jewlip went from seventeen bucks to twenty two dollars, So it's 13 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:14.760 a five dollars increase in just one year, and that is a very expensive 14 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:19.480 drink. And I actually think mint julips. I wouldn't want to pound mint 15 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.480 jewlips, if you know what I'm saying, but I'd try to get at 16 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:30.280 least one per Derby week. Oaks lily good. But if I was paying, 17 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:32.760 you know, I wouldn't pay for that just because it's I don't like 18 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:36.760 it that much. You can get a Woodford Reserve Spire for twenty two bucks 19 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:42.040 as well. Your let's see here, your your wine eighteen dollars by the 20 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:46.799 glass. The Jackson family wins a very expensive glass of wine, and then 21 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:53.480 your beer domestic is thirteen, Premium is fourteen, white Cloth fourteen as well. 22 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.799 And I love Michelob Ultra. I mean, it's not my go to. 23 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.239 I'm a Bushlight guy. I'd say, here's my order, bush Light, 24 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:07.000 then bud Light, then Michelo. But like, why is michelob considered 25 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:12.039 a premium beer? What makes it premium? Maybe because it's I mean, 26 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:14.520 I don't know, this doesn't make it premium. But I think maybe the 27 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:17.520 fact that it's the full brain is michelob Ultra, maybe that makes it seem 28 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:21.080 a little more premium than it actually is. Yeah, I mean, I 29 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.240 can tell you, first of all, it's not premium, but they call 30 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.479 it that. But maybe maybe the naming is is that And I don't know. 31 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:29.159 For a while, I felt like their marketing, their branding was like 32 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:32.360 the in shape person that wants to drink beer, but maybe not have as 33 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:38.000 many calories like light kind of. I mean it might have been Lance Armstrong, 34 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:39.599 who was their big endorser, you know, before he you know, 35 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:44.039 finally admitted to being a cheater. But yeah, I mean, I I'm 36 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.759 gonna just to save a buck. I would out like I was there on 37 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:51.120 Saturday and I had two beers, and you know that point almost had to 38 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:54.879 file for bankruptcy. But I decided to go with the you know, domestic 39 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:58.479 and not the premium because you know, I just don't think it's worth a 40 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.159 dollar more. Even though I like the michelob better than bud Light, It's 41 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:04.039 just to me that's such a reach. But hey, it's not just Churchill 42 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.280 Downs A A lot of places do that, like they it's like an up 43 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.360 charge, and you'd never think it because they all come from the same family. 44 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:14.159 Let's be real here. You know, it's a traditional light beer. 45 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:19.199 But the tickets we talked about last week just to get in, like you 46 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:22.680 know, general admission for the infield, and that, by the way, 47 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:29.360 that's what it is now. The infield is general admission, and you can't 48 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:32.560 get anywhere else other than the infield, So it's one hundred and thirty for 49 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:37.360 Derby and then I think it's seventy five for Oaks. So if you go 50 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:39.439 that route, let's just say, on Derby you're doing the infield and you 51 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:45.039 get one mint julib, you're already one hundred and fifty two dollars in with 52 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:49.800 no horses that you've bet on just yet, and you know, maybe not 53 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.520 even counting what you potentially paid to park. So that is something that a 54 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.599 lot of folks, I would say, are just like, yeah, nah, 55 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:01.599 I can't do that. And I'm not saying that Churchill Downs doesn't seem 56 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:05.199 to really care, but like that's not their priority anymore, right, because 57 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:11.479 I think what they learned during the year where they had, I know, 58 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.919 you know, there was there was the derby in the in the fall, 59 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:16.079 which was weird, right I think it was it September. I think it 60 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.160 was, Yes, yeah, and that was just weird, but everything was 61 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:21.480 weird at that point, right. That was during that was twenty twenty. 62 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:26.360 Well, then in twenty twenty one they had the Derby once once again and 63 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.920 it was just very limited capacity if you remember. And I think they learned 64 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:35.120 a lot during that experience because you know, the people were still willing to 65 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:39.839 pay, you know whatever, and that's the thing. They know they can 66 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:44.879 probably charge whatever during derby and probably during you know, even any day this 67 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.639 week, and a lot of people will still pay. And I think you 68 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.720 used to be able to get general admission and your ticket would get you you 69 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.600 know, you get in the infield and you can you know, you don't 70 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.600 have any seat, but you can kind of roll them around. And that 71 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:00.560 would lead to a lot of people who do pay for premium tickets premium areas. 72 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.360 And there's a lot of people who were just ga that were kind of 73 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:05.639 in their in their space. And I don't know, if you know, 74 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:10.160 there was enough people that buy tickets that had you know, that were complaining 75 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.639 about you know, the peasants as some people call them, or they just 76 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:18.480 realized like, hey, if we do this really expensive pricing but it includes 77 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:24.759 all inclusive drink and food, we'll still sell plenty of tickets and we'll make 78 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:29.839 a lot of money. And you know overall, it's I mean, I 79 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.680 just cannot I can't sit there and say that spending like let's just look at 80 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:36.079 what the price is for a derby ticket right now, Like I'm sure it's 81 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:39.399 gone up since last week when we looked. But let's go to Ticketmaster. 82 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:44.000 So if you go and just first thing you see on Saturday for you know, 83 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.600 find tickets Churchill Downs that's Premier dining. What the hell is that? 84 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:53.319 Uh? Let's see. I guess this is showing you kind of like where 85 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.839 you know, yeah, here, here we go. I'm trying to find 86 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:59.800 like the most generic tickets that aren't GA but also aren't you know, like 87 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.560 know in millionaires row or whatever. I mean, this ticket I just looked 88 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.120 at as fifteen hundred dollars. That can't be the cheapest, although I guess 89 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.959 it wouldn't be that big of a shocker. All right, So right now 90 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:14.879 you can get in on Saturday Vivid seats here. They've got you know, 91 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:24.680 section one eighty three two tickets eight hundred and sixty dollars each. I can't 92 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.759 I can't say that that's a good deal. Like I can't say that you 93 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:30.199 know, that's worth it. I mean, I guess it. Only it 94 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:31.759 all comes down to that person who pays that money. Is it worth it 95 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:33.720 to them? And if it is, then it's worth it by definition. 96 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:40.720 But because you get all inclusive drink, so like those twenty two dollars mint 97 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.199 julips. You can get as many of them as you want, you know, 98 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.399 the lily twenty two bucks, you can get as many of them as 99 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:47.000 you want. Food, you can get as much as you want. So 100 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:51.480 it's still the right way to go if you're gonna go, because I just 101 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:54.199 can't. I don't know how any I don't know why. I mean, 102 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.959 I'm sure there's clearly a market for it. It's probably people who want to 103 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.639 go, but like you know, aren't even old enough to drink, and 104 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:02.879 they just want to go. Like high school kids probably will go to Oaks 105 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:05.319 and do the infield because that's you know, that's that's where they're going to 106 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:09.000 congregate. Like I just, I don't know any people can spend their money 107 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:13.160 on whatever they want. Everybody has their own preferences. But if you go 108 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:17.639 to the Derby or the Oaks and you do just the infield, you're probably 109 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.839 somebody that is there and you're only there to be, you know, take 110 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:26.680 in the experience and make bets, right, because there's no other reason to 111 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.879 justify I mean, because you know it just you're gonna drink and eat. 112 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.480 It's still I think makes more sense to, I don't know, eight hundred 113 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:36.319 and fifty nine dollars per ticket there that and that's the cheapest one right now. 114 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:40.319 That probably, you know, would mean you'd have to eat a lot 115 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.519 of food and drink a lot of booze, which people do. It's Derby, 116 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:46.720 right, that's that's it's a big party. But I mean just seeing 117 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:49.399 the new Paddock over the weekend. I was there on Saturday night. We 118 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:55.120 took the family and had a great time, and the Paddock is beautiful, 119 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.399 like it's it's I mean, it's state of the arc. I mean, 120 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.319 it's it's awesome. But you know, you're you're already hearing a lot of 121 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:09.519 people mention it not necessarily catering to you know, locals and people who've been 122 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.800 going for decades and that kind of stuff, And like I get the complaints, 123 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.240 but I also get Churchill Down's decision to do this because like they don't 124 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.480 need it's a business, they don't need to cater to those people because they 125 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.959 can do what they're doing here and really charge whatever they want and and people 126 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.320 will pay. You know, I was with friends on Saturday and I hadn't 127 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.960 thought of this, but it did seem as if like going for opening night, 128 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:39.519 it was you were paying Derby prices for a lot of stuff, and 129 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:41.559 they they, you know, they said that they could be that they're just 130 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.600 really trying to cash in on this being Derby one fifty. So we're going 131 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.519 to really make everything crazy because it's one fifty. And if people wonder why 132 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.840 there's more money that we have to spend, it's because it's one fifty. 133 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.120 I have no clue. I mean, I wouldn't know if that's something that 134 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.639 goes into consideration. But yeah, if you've not been back to the track 135 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:58.480 in the last couple of years and you go this week, it'll be it 136 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.519 looks a lot different. I mean it's nice, but like everything is very 137 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.720 separate, right, Like we had you know, essentially general admission tickets and 138 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:09.960 we you know, we could walk around, but like you know, we 139 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:13.879 you know, we were over where you have bleacher seats, which actually made 140 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:15.840 it perfect for the kids. They could see the horses. We had, 141 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.000 we had plenty of space, Like it was actually perfect for us. But 142 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.720 you know, they've made it to where you're either going to pay for a 143 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:26.399 premium ticket and be around, you know, like days of just roaming around 144 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.720 Churchill downs kind of you know, maybe not sitting in a box you know, 145 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.759 you're not supposed to sit in but like days of just roaming around, 146 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.799 finding a spot for a few minutes and then going to a different spot a 147 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:37.240 few minutes later, Like that's gonna be a lot more difficult to do. 148 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.919 And if that makes you sad because you won't get to experience the track that 149 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.639 we used to, I get it. But I also understand, like, 150 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.840 like for example, for me as someone who again Churchill Nuns, doesn't need 151 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:52.320 me, right, They're gonna do just fine without me. I'm not somebody 152 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:54.559 that's a big horse racing fan. I go, you know, I go 153 00:09:54.679 --> 00:10:00.000 during Derby Week a few times, mostly for work, and I'll go occasionally 154 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:03.159 in the spring, you know, after Derby Father's Day that kind of stuff. 155 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:05.679 We go. We actually go on Thanksgiving, which has actually become a 156 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:11.080 tradition for my family for Thanksgiving. So like they're not catering to me, 157 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:11.919 and they don't need to, why the hell would they, right, But 158 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.639 the experience you know that I remember for twenty years of going is gonna be 159 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.440 different, and that is a little bit of a bummer. I'd be a 160 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.919 liar if I told you, like, I'm bothered by it, but you 161 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.799 know, they invested how much money into this new paddock. I mean, 162 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.720 it's an insane and I think they got their money's worth. It looks phenomenal, 163 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:31.960 but it was kind of you know, we knew they were doing construction 164 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.519 on you could tell that last year, right, But now seeing it, 165 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.480 it's beautiful, But it's just to know that it's just so different than what 166 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:41.240 it once was. Is you know, it is kind of sad, but 167 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:45.919 again not sad like these greedy sons of bitches. I'm just saying it's sad 168 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.879 because for you know, somebody who's lived here my whole life like he does, 169 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.039 it's gonna look totally different than what I was used to. But again, 170 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.039 they could. They could probably charge double what they're charging, and I 171 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:00.200 still think people pay like not us, not locals. Maybe you could if 172 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:01.879 you could afford it, and if so, then God bless you. But 173 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.600 like this is this is the kind of event that, in fact, the 174 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.320 more expensive it is, I think the more type of you may get more 175 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.000 people inclined to go, because rich people want to be a part of rich 176 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.720 people's stuff, right at least I would, you know, I'm not rich 177 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.600 myself, you know, don't know a who lot about that lifestyle, but 178 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.840 I can imagine that's the case. I would agree with you. I think 179 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:22.639 the more expensive it is that you're going to attract that crowd. Yeah, 180 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:26.879 and in that crowd that you know would be attracted towards that. Again, 181 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:30.879 it's all because they have the money and there they want to be. You 182 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.360 know, like eight hundred and sixty bus ticket, that's not gonna that's not 183 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.799 gonna break their bank. I mean that, Yeah, you're right, but 184 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.440 that's just because that that price is not meant to cater to anybody from this 185 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:45.080 area. I mean rich people in this area, but like you're catering to 186 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:48.559 the people who are trying to have a once in a lifetime experience or those 187 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:50.799 who just are made of money. Yeah, it could be something to where 188 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.399 you know, maybe you're not made of money, but it is something that 189 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.600 is so special to you that you really make it. You make you make 190 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.440 sure you budget throughout the year to where you can afford it. Point Yeah, 191 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.879 but take away Churchill, horse racing all that kind of stuff. I 192 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:11.840 feel like even if I had unlimited amount of money, which I don't, 193 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:16.879 there's certain prices for things that like I'd rather just not know because if I 194 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.480 know that, I'm gonna be thinking, well, this experience better be amazing 195 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.840 because of what I paid, you know what I mean? Like I would 196 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.120 think if I, you know, even if I had I guess if you 197 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:30.799 got money to blow and you've never had to look at a price for anything, 198 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.320 then I guess you know, it's not something you think about. But 199 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.639 like if if somebody gave me a ticket and like, you know, told 200 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:39.799 me, hey, I'm gonna pay for your eight and sixty bucks for you 201 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.679 to go to Derby, I mean, I would be very grateful, but 202 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:48.240 I would think to myself, like, man, like they're gonna spend air 203 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.440 in sixty bucks on me. I got something else they could have done, 204 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:52.279 you know what I'm saying, Like I got something else that they could have 205 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.080 put that towards. But yeah, anyways, those are your prices for UH 206 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:01.399 for this year's UH premiums at at Churchill downs twenty two dollars for a jewel 207 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:07.600 up, twenty two for a lily, and premium beer, which I'm not 208 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:11.840 even sure what the premium beer is outside of michelob I'm sure there are some 209 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:16.720 other ones, but the domestic right, the bud Light, Budweiser. I'm 210 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.240 assuming they have Cores and Miller. Those are thirteen bucks, which I feel 211 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.759 like they've been thirteen. Not that those are cheap, but that's I think 212 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:26.879 they've been thirteen for many years now. All right, it is Coffee and 213 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:28.320 Company. We are field By Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. 214 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.000 Appreciate you hanging out with us if you are just now joining us. The 215 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.759 big news from earlier this afternoon, right around noon, Jaden Quaintance made his 216 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:41.399 commitment to Arizona State. They jumped in at the last minute last week. 217 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:48.440 And really it is wild because the school that ended up landing Jaden Quaintance is 218 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:56.200 the school that had never been mentioned, had never been mentioned until last week 219 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.360 whenever he canceled his visit to Memphis, and then sure enough they get him 220 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:03.960 on campus in Tempe and he commits. So if you missed at the beginning 221 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.480 of the show, look, this is this is somebody loul have clearly wanted 222 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.399 and they didn't get. So they lost him. You know, it happens. 223 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.720 They've they've lost other players too throughout the process. Here, that's normal. 224 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.320 It happens to everybody, and this would have been a big splash. 225 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.120 Trust me, I really think that things were lining up here for this to 226 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.600 be special, because yeah, I would have been a big an il price 227 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:26.000 tag, but I think it'd be worth it because one, he's a really 228 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:30.399 good player that you could get for two years, and I think it's a 229 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.720 statement type of get for Pat Kelsey if you could have got him. But 230 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.519 also, yeah, he's young, but he's a fena like he's believed to 231 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.159 be a guy that could be eventually, you know, an NBA superstar. 232 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:43.919 And I know he's sixteen, but I also think he could still play next 233 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.879 year and be productive. Now, would he be a twenty five and eleven 234 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:52.480 guy, probably not, But having him around the current team that Kelsey's put 235 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:54.639 together, I think would have been a really good mix because it's a bunch 236 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.720 of old dudes, a bunch of veterans and you know, grown men, 237 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.480 and he's sixteen, and I just feel like that would be a good scenario 238 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:05.000 for a young guy. Right If you're building your team with a bunch of 239 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.559 freshmen and one of them is sixteen, then that'd be tough. Just we've 240 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.200 seen in recent years that's just really not the way to go about it anymore. 241 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:15.879 It'd be very, very tough to win that way. So it's a 242 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.799 bumber, no doubt. But he apparently wanted a guaranteed starter spot, and 243 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.799 it sounds as if Pat Kelsey wasn't willing to make that guarantee. And you 244 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.360 know, I think year in years past, you could probably you could probably 245 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:30.759 you know, fib a little bit and say what you got to say to 246 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.639 get them on camp, to get them to commit. But now with everything 247 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:39.919 being so transactional, it could get messy, and you know, it sucks. 248 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:41.559 But this is just the truth, right, Perception is reality. You 249 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:46.000 got to be able to control your own narrative. And if there are people, 250 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.399 you know, if you've become the school that no longer you know that, 251 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:50.759 if you become the school that's not honored the coach, I guess I 252 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.320 should say that's not honoring what he promised to kids during their recruitment. Then 253 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:56.200 like that wouldn't mean some would say, you know, I think this is 254 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:58.879 actually the way to go about it. These guys aren't entitled anything, but 255 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:03.600 right now we all are aware that there are concessions in place for these people 256 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.600 to you know, these kids to commit, and you just got to be 257 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:11.679 careful about that because I don't think you want people accusing you of being you 258 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.600 know, miss you know, being dishonest about nil or about you know, 259 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.039 roll, that kind of stuff. As silly as it sounds, it matters, 260 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:22.080 right. That's why I like, there are people out there that truly 261 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.679 believe Louisville's transfers in recent weeks have something to do with money. It's nothing 262 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:26.960 to do with that. And I'm talking about on the football side now. 263 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:32.919 So I think the decision to not give him a guaranteed spot as a starter 264 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:34.759 was a wise one, especially with a bunch of veterans you already have coming 265 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.879 in and Pat Kelsey, you know, we're still learning a lot about him, 266 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.320 will continue to learn a lot about him. But it's one of those 267 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:44.679 things you hear coaches say and some will say it's corny. Maybe it is, 268 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.399 but it's true. His program, it went through Charleston and at Louisville, 269 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.480 will be that everybody's going to earn what they get, and I think 270 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:56.240 in a way he really sells that to, you know, some of the 271 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.000 guys that he's already been able to land and it's worked I mean it's helped 272 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.399 him. I think we heard that firsthand when we talked last week with the 273 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:06.759 Terrence Salworth junior so Arizona State Bobby Hurley. They have landed Jaden Quaintance, 274 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:11.279 and I mentioned this earlier for those who missed it. I'm curious if we 275 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.240 end up figuring out more info about this as far as if it was a 276 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:18.720 factor in the decision, But I know it could not have hurt Arizona State's 277 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:23.880 chances to land this young man, knowing that they are going to have a 278 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:30.400 full docu series being done on their team and Hurley next year. I mean 279 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.240 it's being shopped to the streaming networks. Apparently Hollywood producers have already kind of 280 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.920 put it in motion. Now they're just trying to find somebody to put it 281 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:40.680 on their network. And you would think they'd go after the better Hurley who's 282 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:45.279 won two national championships, But Bobby Hurley is more of a character which could 283 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.519 make for better television. And Arizona State, I mean, that's a beautiful 284 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.079 place and the campus I'm sure will look great on this show. So I 285 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:57.519 don't know enough about those that are guiding and advising Quaintance throughout this process. 286 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:00.599 But if you are on a show like that and it's a huge hit on 287 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:04.279 something like Netflix, you can't you can't buy that reach. You cannot buy 288 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:07.759 that visibility because people who watch basketball are gonna know. But you're at that 289 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.880 point. You're talking about an audience that you know maybe would never watch you 290 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.200 at Arizona State. But if you're on that show and you're a likable character 291 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.000 and people really love you, then you know that can only help you. 292 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.119 Again, it's it's it's a market you wouldn't get just by being a basketball 293 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:23.880 star. An example of that is The Wrestler's Show on Netflix, which yes 294 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:30.480 I was, I was in briefly. Do you know Cash Flow, the 295 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.240 wrestler? Yes? Did you do? You have you heard what happened with 296 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.480 him? I haven't followed him since, so showed this out. Sylvester Stallone, 297 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:42.359 Rocky, he has a show on he has a show on Paramount that 298 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.680 let me make get it's a good show and I can't think of the name 299 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:52.960 of it, but he saw the he saw the documentary on Netflix. Wrestlers 300 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:56.240 really really liked cash which I don't know how you couldn't because he's a great 301 00:18:56.279 --> 00:18:59.119 guy. You know, kind of a journeyman wrestler. That's just you know, 302 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.640 grinding and out on trying to make it. Still in his mid forties, 303 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:07.160 Well, Sevester Stallone saw the show, loved cash, reached out to 304 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.440 him. He now has a regular role and he's filming as we speak today 305 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.079 in La because he's going to be in Tulsa King season two. How cool 306 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:18.279 is that? That is awesome and that's something that doesn't happen without that show. 307 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:22.960 Right, So there's you know, if I was a kid and I 308 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.920 was in Quaintance's shoes like that, that wouldn't be I guess why I make 309 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:29.880 a decision, But I could certainly see it being a you know, somewhat 310 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.119 of a factor. We got another Derby horse for you guys to hear about, 311 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:34.960 courtesy of our man, mister Jody Dilling. Which one we go into 312 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:40.279 next, John, This one is Forever Young. Let's hear it now, 313 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:47.400 look at the Kentucky Derby Field one by one, Forever Young. In recent 314 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:53.359 years, Japanese horses have been dominant in horse racing on the international stage, 315 00:19:53.799 --> 00:20:00.599 winning horse races all over the world. But the one race day it's still 316 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:07.119 like to win is the Kentucky Derby, and many believe this year a Japanese 317 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:14.079 horse has the best shot they've ever had. UAE Derby winner Forever Young, 318 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:19.160 one of the top international horses ever entered in the Kentucky Derby, comes in 319 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:26.920 undefeated. The bay son of Real Steele, is trained by Yoshita Yagahagi, 320 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:33.640 and it will be ridden by you Say Saki. Forever Young went three four 321 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.720 to three as a two year old, debuting on October twenty four. He 322 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:45.319 began his three year old season in the Saudi Derby on February twenty fourth, 323 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:52.240 where he started slow and was wide, but still won that race by ahead. 324 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:57.079 Next up it was the UAE Derby, where Forever Young won by two 325 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:03.920 links and stamped his ticket to the Kentucky Derby. It'll be the first Kentucky 326 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:11.200 Derby for trader Yoshito Yagahagi. It's also the first Derby for jockey you Saki, 327 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.759 who was in town to work full horse just over a week before the 328 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:21.799 Kentucky Derby and said through a translator that yes, this it could be the 329 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:26.319 best chance that Japan has ever had to capture the roses. Forever Young, 330 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:30.920 the fifth Japanese bread horse, to run into Kentucky Derby. Horses from the 331 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:37.799 UAE Derby O for nineteen Forever Young, the UAE Derby winner, trying to 332 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:47.039 become the first Japanese bread horse to win the Kentucky Derby. All right, 333 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:51.839 so we do have some updated news here on Penny Boone, who is looking 334 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:56.319 for a school he can get into academically to finish his college football career, 335 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.000 and he is visiting Central Florida right now. So the fact that he's visiting 336 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.000 there, I would assume has well, I don't know. You've got to 337 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.559 keep in mind the Kentucky visit. It was probably pretty convenient for him because 338 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:10.839 imagine he was still in the area, but he was committed to Kentucky essentially, 339 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:12.799 it sounds like, and then they realized, yeah, he cannot he 340 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.680 can't transfer here because he can't get into school. But right now he's visiting 341 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.920 Central Florida, so maybe that's where he ends up. All right, It 342 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:22.720 is Coffee and Company. We are fielded by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven 343 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.160 ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us. We will update you on the 344 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:30.440 roster tracker for both schools. Obviously, Louisville has hit a little bit of 345 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.519 a I don't want to say a lull or a I mean, they're not 346 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:41.480 done. I'm sure they're still working. But the fans who are impatient were 347 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.200 lucky last week because last week was very hectic, right, a lot of 348 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:47.359 moving parts. You had a big wave of visitors for a couple of weeks, 349 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:49.319 a couple of weekends, i should say, and then each of those 350 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:52.799 weekends ended up in you getting at least two players, right. It was 351 00:22:53.400 --> 00:23:00.640 Corn Johnson last Monday, and then you ended up landing cater Or, who 352 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.720 I still think is going to be a big time guy. So you know, 353 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:07.799 there's other guys that are in on. But as far as you know 354 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.720 the next wave of visits, you know, I don't know if there's anything 355 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:12.839 set up just yeah, but trust me, they're still working. And look, 356 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:17.680 they've got a visitor coming in here soon at least hopefully, and that 357 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:21.599 is Osabor, the transfer from Utah State, who's one of the best players 358 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:26.680 available in the portal. And he's he's currently visiting Kentucky and we'll see if 359 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.960 he ends up still taking the visit to Louisville. And Mark Pope certainly has 360 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:36.200 some momentum, right, now as they've landed a couple well a same momentum. 361 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.359 I mean it's not as if they've I don't think they've added, you 362 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:41.480 know, elite players in the portal. But that's not to say Louisville has 363 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:45.799 either. But they need bodies, right. These two programs are building rosters 364 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:51.480 from scratch, and I think since Friday there's been three editions for Mark Pope. 365 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:55.519 It started on Friday afternoon with the young man who transferred from San Diego 366 00:23:55.559 --> 00:24:00.759 State and then also Oklahoma transfer Otega Away. I'm probably not saying that correctly, 367 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:04.519 but he made his decision over the weekend, and then last night Andrew 368 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:08.960 Carr, the big man from wake Forest, he committed following a visit and 369 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:11.599 I remember him, you know, because wake Forest obviously is in the ACC 370 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:17.680 and he was productive last year for Steve Forbes, averaged thirteen and a half 371 00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:22.319 points seven boards roughly, and we'll fit seemingly well with how Mark Pope wants 372 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:27.839 to play offensively. So the other visitor, Aiden Mahoney, he actually left 373 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:32.519 Kentucky's visit and did not commit, committed to Yukon, so he was a 374 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:37.400 Saint Mary's transfer. And then right now Kobe Brea, Is that right, 375 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:41.000 Bria, Yes, he is one of the better players available in the portal 376 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:44.119 right now, and I think he's visiting Kentucky as we speak. So the 377 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:48.839 decision from Mahoney to end up at Yukon maybe that helps Kentucky there. I'm 378 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.680 not sure. And today was another one of those days where you could really 379 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.519 if you're a Louisville fan like myself or a Kentucky fan, you know, 380 00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.200 I don't know if you had the same emotion that I did. And it's 381 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:03.319 not like it was something that was powerful, But Kentucky fans are starting to 382 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:04.799 pile on Louisville now, like you know, they didn't used to. For 383 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.079 we were lifeless. We were dead right, We weren't. We weren't like 384 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:12.559 tracking recruitments and transfers because we stunk for two years and we knew even if 385 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:15.880 we did get one, we probably were going to be underwhelmed because even with 386 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:21.599 good players, Kenny Payin was gonna lose. But Jade Quayn's deciding to go 387 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.440 to Arizona State in Louisville not getting him. It's the first time I can 388 00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:29.880 remember like Kentucky fans were celebrating Louisville not getting a player. I mean, 389 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.000 it's been a long time, and that's you know, that's what I'm not 390 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:33.920 even I'm not faulting them. I get it, like that's what you should 391 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.200 do, but it's it's it's been a long time since that's happened that I 392 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:44.680 can remember, and it's another sign that this thing is back on. And 393 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.119 I already know once these rosters are finalized, you know, you're gonna have 394 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:55.359 varying opinions on each of these teams as far as how they did in the 395 00:25:55.359 --> 00:26:00.279 portal. And that's already evident when you look at CBS Sports the Athlete Lee 396 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.880 twenty for seven Sports on three. I mean, you've got all kinds of 397 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.680 different folks that are ranking players in the portal, and some are already starting 398 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.759 to rank classes in the portal, and they're not in any way consistent, 399 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.880 which is okay, Like you don't have to be like, you know, 400 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.119 actually like it in a way because it at least lets you know that there's 401 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.759 somebody who feels this way and this strongly about a player, and then somebody 402 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:26.039 else maybe doesn't feel as strongly. Like to me, it actually gives a 403 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.880 little gives it a little bit of originality, Whereas I think, just my 404 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.920 opinion that a lot of these rankings that you see from high school recruits, 405 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.519 like they're all kind of following each other a little bit, if that makes 406 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:41.240 sense. Like, you know, you wouldn't have a guy as a five 407 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:44.279 star if three other services have him as a three, right, even if 408 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:45.599 you loved him, you wouldn't do it because it would make you look like 409 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:49.920 the fool. You may be, right, But now these players that are 410 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.559 in the portal, a lot of these people who are you know, putting 411 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.200 these together, whether it be just their opinion or if they're using some kind 412 00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:57.880 of a system, which I think is silly act. There's no I don't 413 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:00.960 think there's any metric out there. They're like, you know, it's truly 414 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.759 going to give you I mean, I don't know. Maybe there's a method 415 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.079 to it, but like, I don't think analytics is going to give be 416 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.799 great determining who in fact got good transfers, because again, the numbers from 417 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.799 one level aren't the same as lighter numbers from a higher level. So either 418 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.400 way it's going to be you know, it's gonna be all over the place. 419 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.039 And again, these guys have watched these players who are transferring, so 420 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:23.920 you know, maybe somebody's really like for example, some I think it's the 421 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:29.920 athletic They have Terrence Edwards Junior as one of the top fifteen to sixteen players 422 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.119 in the portal as of today. There's some that have him in the top 423 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.240 fifty, like right around fifty, So you know, it's varying. But 424 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.640 again it's people's opinions who who have watched college basketball, and you don't have 425 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:41.839 to agree with it. They could be wrong, but actually think it's a 426 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:48.400 little refreshing to see them that we have vastly different rankings and whatnot depending on 427 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.799 where you look. But back to the rivalry here, like Louisville fans and 428 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.119 Kentucky fans, when when it's all said, none of us are going to 429 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:56.400 know how good any team is until we actually see them play. These are 430 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.880 all brand new pieces nobody has ever played together. I mean literally, we're 431 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.839 all starting from scratch. But we're gonna be at each other's next about which 432 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.880 team's better, right, because it's what we do and I'm looking forward to 433 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.960 that. Are you going to take a look at this list again? Let's 434 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.960 do it. So the Barnstable Brown, the I think the you know, 435 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:18.599 the biggest derby party, it's been going on for quite some time. Was 436 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:26.160 founded by the twin sisters, Patricia Barnstable Brown and Priscilla Barnstable and it's been 437 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.119 going on for Yeah, this is the thirty fifth year, so it's been 438 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:34.480 going on that long and it's helped raise over twenty million dollars for the Barnstable 439 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.720 Brown Diabetes Center. So a good event that brings in a lot of celebrities. 440 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:42.319 And each year the UNLIT they give us the list of who has been 441 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:47.119 invited in RSVP, But I am curious do they get it, Like is 442 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:52.160 it an invite that gets sent out every year or I'm just because there's some 443 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:53.519 people on this list. I'm gonna be honest with you, like I think 444 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.759 they got invited when they were all when they when they had some momentum as 445 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:02.759 a celebrity, and then they just every year send the rs VP back like 446 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:04.319 hey, I'm coming again, Like, you know, I don't really know 447 00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:08.240 if I mean, I don't really know if some of these people will are 448 00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.559 or you know, like if you're putting together a list of celebrities to invite 449 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.400 to an event like this, there's some names on here, that have been 450 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.160 here forever that I don't think you're, oh, we got we got to 451 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.400 call that guy, like Joey Fatone. Yeah, gotta have Joey Fatone here. 452 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:22.559 Vin Sink. He's just eating it up. Yeah, like he got 453 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.119 invited once and he's like, well, you know, it's an open invitation. 454 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:27.759 So every every year, you know, every year, I mean he's 455 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:33.799 probably he probably is a good time. All right. So we did not 456 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.720 know who Cole. So for those who don't know, there's clearly some names 457 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:37.799 on here that we're going to be familiar with, like Joey Fatone. You 458 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.640 knew that was, didn't you. Yes, So there's other names where we 459 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.759 may have an idea of who it is, but we may you know, 460 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.200 we may be guessing. Cole Hauser is. It was the first name he 461 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.759 mentioned, and I didn't the names sounded familiar. I guess to baseball player. 462 00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.960 But turns out it's ripped from Yellowstone. So he'll be there. Kid 463 00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:56.960 Rock, we know, Kid Rock. I think he's there every year. 464 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:03.799 Tracy Morgan, you know, no, Tracy Lawrence is who I'm Theracy Lawrence 465 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.720 is a country singer. Tracy Morgan, any guests, No, I don't 466 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.680 This is one where I feel like you should know. I'm gonna give you 467 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.039 then. I mean, I'm gonna consider the age difference and still consider the 468 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.720 fact that you should know this Morgan. I know it's I know the name 469 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.559 sounds familiar, but I couldn't put a face on it. Comedian actor. 470 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:27.160 Okay, google him real quick. You will instantly recognize him. That's one. 471 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.440 You know. Again, I'm not giving him hard time for not knowing 472 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.920 what Tracy Morgan is because you know, maybe he doesn't. Maybe maybe he's 473 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.519 looking at the picture and doesn't recognize him, know exactly who it is. 474 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.000 Aaron Rodgers, you know who that is, right, Yes, all right, 475 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:42.599 Josh Grobin. He's a singer, Yes, he's see he like an 476 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:48.240 opera singer or something very soulful voice. Cherry, I'm sorry, Cheryl Lee 477 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.599 Ralph, I have no clue. You know, I would guess an actress, 478 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.759 but I don't know who it is. I'm gonna say you're probably right, 479 00:30:55.839 --> 00:31:00.680 So Cheryl Lee Ralph is in fact an actress. And uh, let's 480 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.279 see here. Yes, I'm looking at her picture now, she looks familiar. 481 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.759 I'm trying to see if there's one specific thing she's mostly known for here, 482 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.759 but yeah, she's been in quite a few movies. She looks familiar, 483 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:14.759 but again I can't there's not a specific, like you know, big 484 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.480 time movie that I'm seeing that like, you know, I would have seen 485 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:21.519 her in. So she's in the sitcom Abbot Elementary. I believe that's out 486 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.519 right now. Okay, how many seasons it has? But I've heard the 487 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.839 name, heard of that show before, gotcha? Gotcha? So that that 488 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.480 speaks to I guess you know the recent relevance here, all right, Smokey 489 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.759 Robinson singer, right of course, yes, and then Jack Harlowe, we 490 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:41.839 know who that is. Let's do one more. Let's see why not a 491 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.920 jud she's one of the jugs. Yes, Okay, I was a little 492 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.839 bit, a little bit worried you may not get that. And honestly, 493 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.039 if you didn't know, it would make sense because you know, the Juds 494 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.920 as far as music, have not been active and or relevant in a long 495 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.759 time that I know of. But because of the Kentucky basketball that's how Oh 496 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:02.440 yeah, yeah, well, I mean I haven't seen Ashley Judd around in 497 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:06.519 a long time. I'm sure she used to be a maze. She was 498 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.559 the celebrity fan for Kentucky for many many years, and I'm sure she still 499 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:13.759 is a fan. I just don't I don't know if she wasn't around for 500 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.839 certain reasons. But yeah, Wine own a Judd is the older sister, 501 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.279 and she's uh, I think she's doing the national anthem. Maybe okay, 502 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:30.240 could be wrong and she's doing that or maybe she's doing Yeah, they announced 503 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.720 it and I can't remember who it was, but one Owned. My mom 504 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.200 is a big fan of Wine own A Judd. So therefore my sister was 505 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:37.960 a super fan of One own a Jude when we were little kids. And 506 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:42.279 uh, my sister was in the Wine own A Judd fan club. Oh 507 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.920 okay, and she got like she got like mail and would always like try 508 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:47.319 to kind of flex on me about like, yeah, you see that Wine 509 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.079 own a Judd member of the club. You see that hanging out on my 510 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:52.599 wall, so you see it. Yeah, she thought it was quite a 511 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.759 flexing back then. It was, honestly, this prestigious club. But that's 512 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.519 old. I am John. Whenever we had like musicians and and and you 513 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.359 know people we were big fans of. It's in fan mail. Yeah he's 514 00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.359 all male, right, we can we can't look him up on the internet. 515 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.200 Right, we got to write them a letter and send it to them 516 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.839 and then they'll tell us to join their fan club. All right, quick 517 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.880 break, we'll go back on the other side, wrap up the four o'clock 518 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.519 hour, a disc, coffee and company, and we are fueled by Thornton's 519 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:22.519 right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. So this is either the second or 520 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:27.240 third here of five oh Tuesday, which I guess has become the local day 521 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:32.640 for locals at Churchill Downs during Derby week used to be Thrby and then Wednesday 522 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.799 it's champions Day. Okay, I mean, look, you can go any 523 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.640 day you want, but this is the day where they really you know, 524 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:45.119 cater to the city of LOUISVILLELLEU pavillions, not with like complimentary pricing or anything 525 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.640 like that, but just some some things that you know, are features I 526 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.200 should say that, you know, let you know, they're really you know, 527 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.279 thinking of those that have you know, not necessarily any one person specifically, 528 00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.319 but just people who you know, know who know Louisville. Right. 529 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:04.680 So they have each race tomorrow non races, and they have a name that 530 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:09.880 is in some former fashion, you know, a nod to Louisville's history. 531 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:17.079 Race one is the Village eight theaters. Number two is the Hassen Hours, 532 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.480 which that is one that I'm not really familiar with. That may be me 533 00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:23.400 showing my age, you know, not that i'm you know, not that 534 00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.719 I'm a baby. John's a lot younger than me, but that may be 535 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.840 like, for example, like one of them is toy Tiger, Like I 536 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.440 know what that is, but I wasn't old enough to experience the toy Tiger. 537 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:36.159 That's a club, right, like a club. Well we're a party 538 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.000 club years ago. Yeah, it's it's Race eight. By the way. 539 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.199 The Bacon's department store around three, Yes, Bacon's, which I think became 540 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:49.320 Did Bacons become Lazarus then Dillards or did there was Lazarus a different store anyways, 541 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.199 Bacons was the department store that was in I think it was in the 542 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.480 galleria down here, which which is where we are right now. Four Street 543 00:34:54.519 --> 00:35:00.599 Live before it's four Street Live. Number four is the Burger Queen. Number 544 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:06.360 five is the Red Barn. Number six is Lentini's wrist Staurante. I've heard 545 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:07.440 of that. I know of that. I just don't know a whole lot 546 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.639 about the history, but I certainly see that and know that it's some kind 547 00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:14.119 of a Louisville connection. Around seven is the Ear Ecstasy, which of course 548 00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:20.039 was one of the most known record stores in this area. I think they 549 00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.199 I could be wrong, but I believe they tagged and really made it a 550 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:27.159 thing. Keep Louisville weird, like they had bumper stickers and stuff. Ear 551 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.440 Ecstasy, Keep louisvill weird. Where you could go and buy and sell music, 552 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.239 like a lot of independent Like if you were a musician here locally, 553 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.039 but you didn't have like a record deal with distribution, you could sell your 554 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.199 music at Ear Ecstasy. Yeah. That's sad because I remember I used to 555 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.840 go to that place every now and then, and they, like a lot 556 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.880 of things, just don't exist anymore. And then number nine is the Jim 557 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:51.840 Porter's Good Times Emporium. Let me tell you a little something about jim Porters, 558 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.199 John, tell me about it. So jim Porter's closed down. Gosh, 559 00:35:54.280 --> 00:36:00.079 it's been at least ten years maybe, Yeah, it was. It 560 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.159 was a legendary establishment. Yeah, they closed down in twenty fifteen, and 561 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.280 I only went twice. It was when I was just twenty one and I 562 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.920 was you know, being doing what twenty one year olds do and experiencing different 563 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:14.159 bars and you know, trying to have a good time. And I went 564 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:19.079 once with some buddies, and I learned quickly, you know what that place 565 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.760 was kind of known for at that time. Now, maybe many years ago, 566 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.119 some people listening had a different, uh had a you know, maybe 567 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.599 Jim Porters was different to them. But in the you know, two thousand 568 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:35.320 and eight, two thousand and nine era that that around that time, it 569 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:40.039 was like the cougar bar, like where hot older women would would be there 570 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.039 and they were they were you know, interested in in you know, hanging 571 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.360 out and meeting with young dudes. I remember, this wasn't really a close 572 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:50.800 fit, more of an acquaintance. Were there all of a sudden, you 573 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.199 know, we walk over to meet some friends who just showed up. He 574 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:58.599 looked back, my buddies, you know, making out with some woman old 575 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:00.199 enough to be his mom, just you know, at the bar just completely 576 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.760 you know, just you know, looked like they were eating each other. 577 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.320 I mean it was it was intense. And then, you know, sir, 578 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:08.880 I look around. I realized, Wow, the majority of the women 579 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.719 here are old enough to be our mothers. And it was you know, 580 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.360 it was it was a vibe. You know, it wasn't really my kind 581 00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.199 of thing at that time, you know, I was I think it was 582 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:21.880 engaged to be married. But like then, and you talked to other you've 583 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:22.639 been you've been to Jim Porters and it was like, oh, yeah, 584 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.639 that's where all the cougars are. That's the mean when they say keep Louisville 585 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.400 weirdness that place there you go, right there, you go. That's right. 586 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.639 All right, We've got one more Derby profile for you guys before we 587 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:34.320 get to the top of the hour. Who do we have up next? 588 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.679 This one is Mystic Dan. Let's hear it now, look at the Kentucky 589 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:45.679 Derby field one by one Mystic Dan. Southwest Stak's winner Mysstick Dan finished third 590 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:51.760 in his last race in the Arkansas Derby, but that hasn't dampened the feelings 591 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:57.440 of trainer Kenny McPeak that the Bay Sun of Golden Since can win the Kentucky 592 00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.159 Derby. He's an old soul asrs. I mean, he goes out there 593 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.239 and he's very quiet, unassuming, you wouldn't really think a whole lot, 594 00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.239 but he is really fast and he's exceptionally smart, that's what you mean. 595 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:16.599 Miss dick Dan owned by Lance Gazaway four gy Racing and Daniel Hamby. He'll 596 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:23.119 be ridden by Brian Hernandez. Miss Dick Dan started his career with a second 597 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:28.840 place finish at Keenland, broke his maiden in November at Churchill Downs, then 598 00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:32.800 finished fifth two straight races, an optional claiming race and the Smarty Jones on 599 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.719 New Year's Day at Oakland Park. Up next it was the Southwest Stakes, 600 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:43.960 where jockey Brian Hernandez kept Misstic dan is zip past the rest of the field. 601 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.360 Won the Southwest Stakes by eight links, but then finished third behind m 602 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.960 and Just Steele in the Arkansas Derby. Mystic Dan was up close to the 603 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:58.800 lead in the first four starts of his career. Mcpete switched up the tactics 604 00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.440 a little bit and start to rate him more and he believes that Mystic Tan 605 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.000 is a horse that can get him to the Kentucky Derby winner circle for the 606 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.440 first time. Look, we've been around the bulls eye on this, you 607 00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.039 know, and we've had we've had some good runs and had a favorite of 608 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:16.760 the Derby and you know, look at all it's got to come together. 609 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:22.480 I mean it's just not not easy, and big twenty horse field, you 610 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.760 gotta have a lot go right, But look we've we've got a great team 611 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.840 of horses and people and clients and you know, look, if it's our 612 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:31.320 turn, it's our turnam. But isn't it ant