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This is India Today Podcasts. You
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in the sledging room. Let me
warn you this is not a place for

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the faint hearted and the weak need. If you're a sports boff and like

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challenging everything you see younger, stay, if you're a fan, walk away

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right now. Yeah, okay,
every time you need it. You know

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that you're recording at four o'clock.
Yeah yeah, starting act like how an

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IPEL matchange? You know? But
on time? Seriously, are these IPIL

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matches some of them are getting over
quicker than other. The game on Tuesday

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took almost four hours, but that
also probably because for a lot of pieces

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operated in that game more than spinners. But it's it's a revelation this time.

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There were some delays in the first
first few weeks and then because it

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was a little going beyond four four
and a half hours in the first first

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week. Right, yeahs a couple
of matches. So what's changed between last

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week and this week is the overrate
much more impressive in the ip But what

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hasn't changed or of Delhi Capital?
Come on? Five matches fils No,

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No, My question is the same
as the last week because nothing has changed

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for Delhi Capitals. Five matches,
five defeats. There was a two time

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IPL winning captain who was in charge. He stepped down. Well, a

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one time I Peel captain who's now
in charge of DC. Will he also

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stepped down? Should he step down? I think he should and a lot

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of changes should happen if DC have
to win the upcoming matches, if they

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want to win the upcoming matches,
especially the way they have been batting.

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I mean it is absolutely avistable.
I think they got it wrong at the

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auction table itself. I don't know, maybe Mitchell Marsh they had or maybe

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what happened was when we were talking
about DC ahead of the tournament, it

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was like every player every oversees batter
they have is in form he or whoever

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he is, he's going to back
the operation out of the park. But

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now it doesn't seem like that every
batter has failed. You talked about Mitchell

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Mars, Riley Rush to talk about
Robin Powell. They were all firing guns

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before the IPL exactly, and just
when they've come to the d setup they've

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all started feeling no. But it
is also thing about setups, right,

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I mean David Warner was fantastic with
Sunrise. Once upon a time, the

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leading round score took them to Viteen
twenty sixteen, but then his fortunees dipped.

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He used to look at him.
Now they've let go of Nicholas pod

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and a lot of these other guys. Yeah, without Bishop, there's that

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bigger hole. It seems like it. Yeah, seems like at least the

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presence in the dressing room, his
ability to you know, lift people the

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opposition. Yes, absolutely, Yeah, that is also there. You know,

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when he's there in the starting eleven, you kind of feel that he's

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going to do someone as an opportion. You have to make plans for him.

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Now that he's not there, the
person have the time and liberty to

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plan for everyone else. Right,
No, but it is a fact.

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You know. I sometimes wonder because
you know, most wicket keepers when they

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talk, they say most wicket keepers
are chatting. They're supposed to annoy.

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It's not a fantastic job. Undoubtedly
is a brilliant wicket keeper. But we

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all knew that already. I mean, he's come up the ranks through a

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very good system in Bengal. You've
had deep do group that recent in the

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last fifteen twenty years you've had Deepp. Now you have cool um good system

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there in Bengal. But my point
is maybe you know it also needs them

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some level of confidence and some level
of expertise to do what Punk does.

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I mean Punts did it from the
very start, but it needs sexual So

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is that Gumpsham missing? Is that
is that Delhi Capital Stina looking like,

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you know, not quite on the
park to win. It's almost like they're

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looking like they want the summer to
be over and has already, like when

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you see a team like CSK.
They also did not win the first two

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matches I think first first match,
sorry, and they were not looking the

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team which could go and win the
title. Still they have a lot of

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problems going on. But the way
AMAZONI has backed his place, you've seen

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a guy like what a player he
has turned into at CSK. So I

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mean you need that backing from your
captain, your management. Theaplus might have

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a lot of good coaches. You
have got Shane, what you've got around

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James Hopes, But are they have
they been able to back the players?

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Have they been able to tell the
players that yes, you have got our

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backing, you go and perform in
the fieldre But it's about two facts.

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It's about what they're doing on the
field. And it's like you pointed out,

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did they get entirely wrong at the
auction table? Not on the face

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of it. On people. You
look at what britt be sure David won

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openers. Obviously Pant's missing, So
you have to fill it up with um.

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You are the ones who let go
of a few, you know,

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if you let go of Robata,
imagine on the stage robarda Nokia together,

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you let go of Ashwin. Um
is not being used to properly. We've

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spoken about it. I've been screaming
from the rooftops. We spoken it upon

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the sledging room. Batting at number
seven? Is it his position? Is

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it really his position? Given his
current form um one US captain c he

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sometimes again, you know, is
David Warner? He stopped be talking about

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one of the greatest modern day cricketers. But looking from the outside, he

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almost looks like he's not always there. So now that he has been picked

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in the ABC final squad and the
squad, would it kind of liberate him?

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Agin He must have known that he
would be there, could be in

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his final test match for Australia depends
on what India. You think he will

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play that finals? I think he
will, But think how can you drop

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a guy elect Travis's head who has
done so well at the play yea,

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and especially after what happened with David
wer Win the last word England. I

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mean, yes, we don't have
stored, but he doesn't have exactly he

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doesn't have to face to world but
moment Serrat can do that. Take it

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away from the left hand, we
look at us. You're already going straight

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to the World Test Championship that India
will lift. Yes, yes, yes,

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we all wanted to leave that trophy. I will tell it will be

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perfect. It will be a perfect
here for Captain Ruby. That'll be a

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very crazy title World Cup. So
you're saying that will win the IP with

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movements like it, how how did
you, oh, people who have ruled

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no, no, no, no, don't go that far, don't do

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that far. We all have a
favorite sere yees. I mean, by

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the way, just before we head
to come back story of cskn and by,

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I wanted to bring this point about
Sargon Wali. He said the right

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thing to a delete capital scamp.
That is struggling to even put up some

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show on the field. He said, don't worry about qualifying or not qualifying.

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Now we are not in a position
to do that. Just go out

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there and play for your pride and
play to prove that this team is not

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as bad as it looks on the
field. I mean, how much worse

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can you get? Games? But
it's not going to get worse from here

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after three defeats now they have lost
five degree of five to the Delhi Capitals.

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I mean, obviously I care about
what Gongoles is, but I'm saying

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to the camp, but what was
the staring match between That was something right,

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two kings almost getting on, like
you know, you were discussing a

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couple of days ago that you know, Goole is kind of the barb of

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all the mind games. Y.
Look, it was we all saw that

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from the outside. Saw two things, right, repeated footage going around on

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social media and this and that was. One was when Wirt was walking out

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in the deep to field and gool
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There's another footage where I saw where
Art was padded up to bat and

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sort of walks right past with the
you know, drinking from his bottle water

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bottle. And the third was where
he sort of went past Ricky Ponting the

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match, during the two had supposedly
allegedly avoid shaking hands with ARTI. Now

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we don't know. I mean,
they could well be, you know,

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but but things have happened in the
past where in the press conference he said,

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were ARTICALI said he wasn't asked to
stay back. Sorrow Gongoli later said,

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look, I mean before that,
Sorro Gongol, he said, we

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had all asked him to stay back. Versions have come through. But and

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you could see article hit at fifty. Yeah, he could see his celebration.

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It was like he was going to
he was playing to prove a point.

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And is even the celebrations. A
lot of people said that was to

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show the world that, look,
he's up there with the strike rate game

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and then he got out cheaply in
that high scoring game against Super Kings,

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And all that matters is we're art
is still relevant. He is if nobody

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nobody said exactly had he not been
real, would he said? And you

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wouldn't have been I'm not the topic
of goalies elevants here. I don't know

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what Okay, No, what you're
trying to say, I enjoyed that step

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And what are you trying to say? I don't know how much of an

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impact sarongole make a Steley Capital director
of cricket. Let's see, it's like

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wet Coli has made a lot of
impact, as are seeing back captain winning

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them ten tournaments. It looks like
you forgot who brought in Amazzoni. But

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it's not about winning titles or leading. Okay now now it has gone down

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to this, Yeah, it's about
gaining the respect of people in the dracing

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room. No, so s again, we're not taking size. We just

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really really think what happened this weekend, putting out how things look, because

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that was that was spice. That
was what the ipel or any sort of

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high ten cricket gives you. I
mean two champions to great captains too,

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of India's greatest captain. Yes,
absolutely, Um again, we don't know

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what's really boiling down, but yes, and an Apple team with Sara as

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the head coach or mentor and Weali
as a star player or captain. That

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would always always be spicy. Yes, that will always be That would have

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been a really really good combo is
it or I mean the same team.

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Yeah, that is not going to
happen because because goalie I said, he's

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not going to leave RCB and I
don't think that my Mike Swivel. Mike

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was in shock in shock listening.
But that is why I brought up that

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Sargon dressing room speech. I like
that, you know the way he said

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that you now have to just prove
that you're not as bad as what you

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said. That's done when you don't
have the can they do? I don't

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know. They don't have the tools
like we all thought. Mombi Indians might

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have a bad seasonings, might have
a non existent batting line of food.

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Yeah, what do they You know
what I will say, Yes, I

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do want DC two win. But
the way they have been playing. You

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talk about bowling, you talk about
batting, you talk about feeling. Yes,

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it has been absolutely a whism intent
at times. Yes, yes,

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we have seen that the team has
not gone for the kill. And most

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importantly, if you ask me,
do you guys think that if they if

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they can win one good game against
they can win against KKR with a very

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good margin in Coola, can it
turn around? I don't think so.

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Because unlike last year, the top
level teams are very closely clustered this way

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eight six six six, and I
mean it's still I think the number,

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the difference between number three and number
seven is very very It's just nothing,

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right. I mean, it's just
a matter of a couple of good games.

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So one of the top tier teams
to seal the top three four spots

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and then it becomes difficult for somebody. And remember it's a ten team tournament

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now, so in an eighteen tournament
it was easier to climb in and factor

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in the net roun rate. You
saw what happened to Mumbaians and Chenness super

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Kings by the time they started winning
a couple of matches, Yes, they

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were left. They were I mean
everything was, oh yes. And I

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think Deli Capitals have already reached their
position will be lyrical if they can do

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it nine out of nine not happening, quite mathematically possible, mathematically a mathematical

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equations. It's obviously victory is one
of doom net run rate and figuring out

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who your what your batting lineup is, Like can you still go? But

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you are a DC fan? Can
you rattle off the DC top order they

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will have to do. You can
you can you can you actually summarize the

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DC top order. You can't,
you can't. David Juana Russo, where

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is xer is relevant of the order? Loud load on the order waters this

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role. It's all very complicated,
and I sometimes think that it's the more

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hype top your coaching staff is,
Yes, the more damage it could do.

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I mean again, then it's Mumba
Indians is an ex contradiction. Look

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at Stephen Fleming like just in the
background, you must be very happy.

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Now, yes, I was just
wondering, how do some of these players,

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you know, like Shane Watson Mbatira, do they seem like they have

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lost the T twenty game and suddenly
they come to chenness overs and they just

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go have three words for you,
okay, magical words tell me um last

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ye. Would again do you respect
all these guys young bowlers? Would they

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fit into any other bowling lineup in
the IPA by Indians for sure? Now,

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No, I don't think what I
meant to ask was would a lot

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of these teams really bet on these
bowlers they might have with them as backup?

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What doing right? He almost says
that look give me a bowler who

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can bowl straight pa more than one
five thirty. Whatever it is. Even

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if you go in and you know
running and bowl straight, Tony is like

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he's in the team. He's a
magician. He's a magician Amazonian. How

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many captains would have pulled it up
from that stage again in that high scoring

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game in Bangalore and then he goes
and tells his bowlers, should we look

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at it like this? How many
teams should have lost from that position RCB.

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I don't know. Even Delhi capitals
are, they're good form. If

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they had one, they couldn't have
cheered it down. They wouldn't have been

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able to defend it. Also,
it didn't defend two hundred and well against.

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But it's the only magic working for
CSK, he pointed out. Ny.

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I mean he last year worked was
a strike ratee hundred and four,

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exactly one hundred, one hundred and
two. Even now he's striking it close

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to two hundred. Even when he
was playing for Raza Stand Royals, he

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was scoring those fifties, but that
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and even then he was not batting
so freely. I can't figure out if

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he had batted at a secret of
two hundred yes in an iqual season before

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playing for SNY working And if you
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has been told to go there and
swing hard. Noney is not swinging at

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all. He's just putting the bad
balls away. He's just having that intent

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to hit the balls for even the
good balls and the bad balls are definitely

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going for it to my interesting movie. I don't know how that works if

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anyone has an explanation, but I
have an explanation. Yeah, Rahaney worked

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brilliantly for the Rogers, stan Roys
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It was very aggressive. He dipped
in between out of India's wand the team.

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No Ipil team was interested in the
auction. CESK came in and picked

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him at bass price. And look
at the way he's come out, All

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guns plaising raid the wrong side of
thirty. And they have the younger guns

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as well. They have they have
all these players, the bowlers, But

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I mean, how many of these
players are I mean, look at them.

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Picked their team on at least sixty
to sixty five percent of their buys.

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There is hardly any building war as
such. Obviously they will go I

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mean Ben Stokes was a high stakes
player. A lot of other cricketers have

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been. But they picked these players
and it's almost like and that's what he

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said, Tony. You know,
Mahibai said, enough of talk of planning,

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now executive and they did. And
it's that the freedom that theyve is

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that they just go They go out
there and do whatever you want and not

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whatever you want. I will there
was giving an interview about sorrow only he

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was saying in two thousand and eight, I was not very fit Pakistan team.

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They overlooked me for a lot of
matches in national matches. But Gamoli

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came to me, he said,
come to I'll play. John Buchanan,

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who was the head coach of Kker
he said, no, is not match

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fit. I will not risk him. Gami made Tuebeta play against the lead

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Devils Magnet was La Devils and this
guy tore up that batting attack. Gumb

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Abidiviliers said, when the captain comes
to you, captain captain Likemzon in this

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case comes to you and says I
am backing you. You just play you

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a game that matters, that matters
a lot at that level, you don't

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need to teach them how to pull
or how to bat. Yes, yest

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have to trigger the right trigger points. So I mean he and that is

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what Tony has done all his career
as Captain of India, captain of the

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Super Kings. He just knows the
pulse. He knows exactly. But this

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impacts a ruler all there. I
don't think this will be ms last year

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old. Why do you need him
to go? Can just come back those

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three years and lead the team?
No? My point is he can just

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lead the team. Yes, and
somebody else could come into bat if they

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wants to want to. I mean
not that they need to post to the

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batting line of without any fantastic strike
rate. You've only got to Obviously against

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Bangalore he faced only two balls.
But he's been much better than Judaja,

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much better than a lot of finishers
in this IPLC. Must better than a

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lot of sur batters. Imagine it
was a question of only one strike against

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Rajasthan Royals, one strike one or
two strikes early on. And even in

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that game, you have to give
trade to Sun dib Shaman that yorcurred not

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got it right against AMAZONI Since twenty
seventeen, twenty seventeen CSK twenty eighteen,

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twenty nineteen, again again twenty twenty. So the last six seven years only

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one team outside of m I n
CSK have one. I think this could

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be the same trend. This name
I know only I genuinely back Chennai and

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am I to at least reach the
playoffs. From here. I think CSK

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looking primed. This is the way
CSK go. Yeah, Mumbi Indians too,

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by the way, yes, So
are we really looking at It's too

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early to say it. Are we
looking at a moment versus Jennie Very finals?

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That will be too early, but
I mean yeah, if you want

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to, I have them in my
top four now like I did not have

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I did not have Mumbai. I
made it have public apology also about how

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I, you know, under underestimated
someone like you has been doing so well.

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But look at the Bombi line up. Also, us don't underestimate leg

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spinners in the Apishill last year mark
this time. I hope Chill performs like

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this at the international level. Also, I don't know what happens to him

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when he gets there, but maybe
the captain and it depends on how it

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also depends on how you use him, right so you mean to say Sancho

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Sampson greater than as could be.
But by rudge, tell me something about

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Momba Indians. So they've also been
a lot they've also has had a lot

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of injuries. Yeah, but someone
like Junta getting that opportunity. You know,

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there are basic differences also even when
there are similarities. Both of them

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champion teams. Both of them have
a pedigree. But while as ms zonis

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calm, not always calm right,
you could also see into Shanda dropped that

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catch up my him. He did
not want to look at Doni or if

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one of these young paces they both
fractionally off outside outside the line, or

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if they bold wide deliveries, they
don't look at Mahibai as such. I

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think he appearsed to be a lot
more flustered. We've talked about that a

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lot of times. We will tell
you better that can't you know a Pakistan

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no West Indies. West in the
teat is the West Indies. But yeah,

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but even in this ips look clustered. He has, he has,

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but I think he's looking a little
more relaxed on all they want three considerative

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matches. But he also said that
when when you look at him as a

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captain of Mumba Indians who have done
so well. He's not used to,

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you know, losing these many matches. Last year, yes, they did

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not get out of the mark aft
for six matches and then the season was

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gone. This time, he said
that last year, I didn't even know

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when we got off the mark.
But I'm happy that we got out of

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the mark after two defeats, which
would be a different for India if they

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do well in Yes, I do
think. I think, yes, certainly

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believe so that contents will help him
a lot, because even last has always

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taken pride in how mumber Indians have
perform in twenty twenty two, I've never

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seen as flustered, as unnoyed,
as negatively expressive as he was last year.

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I mean it was bizarre to watch
because we've always spoken about him as

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such a calm collector, yea customer. I mean, they mostly make it

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to playoffs, right, so don't
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He took a South African team that
was not doing really well and they

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beat a lot of Test teams like
even India lost to a side that was

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coached by Boucher. Maybe he also
has his part in, you know,

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getting things back in order at Momba
Indians. Yeah. I mean they've they've

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been blessed with good coaches, even
Mahla javerts. And when you talk about

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a Mark Boucher, it is not
just that m I just went on and

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brought him. Yes, they were
replacing exactly placing I actually promoted promoted.

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Yeah, but at that spot they
were looking for resource. They must have.

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They must have had look at a
lot of condidates. And then you

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look at the lineup suck and these
teams m I nsk. They know when

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to come back, they know what
to do when they're losing games. They've

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got very good captains, very good
coaching staff, and they don't make someone

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like Hippa lom Road bat at three
and shows probably side bat at seven for

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no reason. And even if someone
fails there, there is some conviction behind

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that move, is what I believe
that is. That is in the case

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with RB. Yeah, Mahipa Lomroad
bats down the order for his stile twenty

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seven. Nomroad comes ahead of Glenn
Maxwell. Yeah. I think Art we

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were lucky that long Road got out
for a duck. Yeah, and there

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was enough time for duplusy in Maxwell
to build a partnership. Naturally aggressive even

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at Rajastan Royals and even for his
state side header. He needs to come

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loader. That's where he's come,
that's where he's performed. I mean,

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he can be a finisher if you
groom him that, but easy on number

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three when you're chasing two hund thirty. And what have you done with someone

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like Shahbaz Ahmed. He played for
India last season, if I'm not wrong,

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last season or a couple of seasons
he played last season, he played

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that chennit As match which India lost
to England. And what are you doing

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with someone like one? He got
you the wicket of and you're giving him

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only two overs? But artially we
have completely messed this up with their bowling

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lineup. You have Siraj again,
wicket taker, bowls well in the power

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play. Wayne Parnel is not the
same Wayne Parnel of a few years back.

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It restopped. He was a major, major set back in that first

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match. But apart from that,
look at your bowling lineup. Has doesn't

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always get four overs, does he? Ye? You're not giving enough to

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Shahbas Apart from that, where is
your bowling and HUSSARNGA If I'm not wrong,

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battered at number three for se Lunka
in the T twenty world and you're

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not trusting him to even finish games
for you? Whoever has worked this out

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for our CV flat pitch, small
ground, do you need a balance or

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do you know that? Okay,
you know what? We can trust four

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proper batters and then let us go
in with all rounders and heavy and heavy

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duty bowling lineup if we're at duplicy
Maxwell and who else dk TK if they

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can't do it along with a couple
of all rounders, you need to have

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seven or eight bowling options for that
pitch. And in the last two seasons,

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if you look at r CV,
not before the season DK was performing

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was performing. Yes, Hashtal has
gone completely off the radar. He's very

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much plitable. Everybody knows what he
will do his slower balls, Yes,

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in that ground even a miss hit. Yeah. I feel for't returned and

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play when he was subbed off.
After that, I think we will to

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ball. That was completely heart especially
after this guy has won a purple cap

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and he was deemed as India's finished
with ball with the ball in the twenty

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DWO one World Cup. What is
what is wrong with our CVR over and

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everybody? I wanted to ask you
one question. Yeah, weard Coli leaving

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r CB captaincy has helped him,
But has it helped r CV? No?

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What will you say for me?
Doesn't mean it's the playoffs last year

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hasn't made any look they could have
finally started winning. I think they also

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went to the eliminated last year.
Another third, Yes, you know what

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the problem is. RCB, like
every other team did want to win as

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much as many matches at home.
You have no scoppered your chances at um.

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They have what you don't have a
woman attack that is suited for who

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know that that home condition and even
with your batting lineup and look what we

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we we've discussed the net rounded issue
as well. We've discussed the strike issues

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as well. Right m r CD
versus LGG two twelve, weard Coli was

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criticized for I mean we criticized from
Simon will raise questions they couldn't defend two

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hundred twelve. And then you asked, oh, but if you can't defend

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two hundred twelve, what does I
say about a back bowling line. A

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fair question, But I also said
that, look, there is a point

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where you needed to get those ten
fifteen or cskred exactly that Okay, Kayak

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couldn't go well. Devin Conway even
though he anchored that guy scored at one

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seventy one and Rahana and Shivam Dube
finished it for you. What was the

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result two hundred and twenty six eight
run victory for CSK at the end despite

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that explosive partnership from duplesim Maxwell.
But eight run is not a thriller.

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It is a convincing victory in the
high scoring game, especially on track,

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which meant that by the time the
last ball was bold, RCB had no

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chance of winning it unless, yes, an illegal deligree. So that is

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a convincing victory given how head to
head, how these two teams went up

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until the sixteenth or the fifteenth over, So that is the difference. But

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coming to that, is it also
a point about Indian batters. Where is

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the strike rid concern? Why shouldn't
it be a concern? Look at the

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way Nicolus boot And has battle.
Look at the way Cameron Green has bat

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Marcus tooyn is Harry Broke and has
been going all guns blazing. I'll look

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at the more established cricketer Skli and
look at the way Sunjo Samson batted against

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sun I think he's been brilliant.
Yeah, because at least he has her

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intent. Absolutely, that was a
treat to take downs like that. I

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in my memory, I have not
seen anyone hitting and and it was it

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was. It was a battle of
table toppers. Yes, you played the

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final last year. It was not
like he came at one hundred for two

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hundred that. Yes, they had
lost early weekends and chasing. They must

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have pression on Sunday Sampson, especially
because they had lost three games against last

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season. They're playing this fourth game
and if not for that assault against Shikan,

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they might have lost this game also
exactly, you know what is going

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against Sunjo Sampson. But are you
going to reward him for this bravery or

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are you going to look at you
should do what Sanju Samson for his brave

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even even at for India. Right, he goes for his shots. Yes,

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you can criticize him, probably the
one day format that give yourself a

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little bit of time. Look at
what you was almost about to pull off

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against South Africa. But in the
T twenty format, how much more can

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you expect place to do the problem
with the Indian set up is that they

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have also started looking at averages so
seriously that you forget what you're doing with

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the pace of your innings. And
that is why batsman after batsman, even

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if they do well, even if
they have good T twenty pedigree, they

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come and do what Kala has been
doing. Yes, you're not rewarding someone

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for let's say an average of thirty
twenty eight and a strikead of on eight.

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These guys start need to be rewarded. Yes, Sanju Samson needs to

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be rewarded. Look at that game
against between and am I. Right,

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Cameron Green anchored the Nis on a
pitch, on a two paced pitch like

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that. It is understandable he tried
to hit out. He did that successfully,

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going one hundred, one hundred and
twenty four. He tried. But

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you could justify her innings on a
pitch like that. Yes, yes,

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Yet look at someone I look for
a mass coos are two hundred. You

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need talent, yes, Luck Forma
is prodigiously talented. A left handed batter

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in the middle order and the way
he bats, he knows when to anchor

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the endings, he knows when to
go and he has done it for Mumbai

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in this season. Yeah, and
doing that in front of your home crowd,

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breaking their hearts, I'm going to
be loved. I think it was

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his first imple game at I mean
that was a moment for him. But

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he did brilliantly. I think he's
not just this season. Even last season

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he was also came to Banglore and
won them the match. Sois by anchoring

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dealings eighteen bling less he was almost
about to help Bangalore. There's another way

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of looking at it. But no, I mean jokes aside, this is

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this is now. Questions need to
be asked of the India battles. Even

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in the MS game, the India
batters struggled more than the overparted guys.

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But then also we India's selection committee
have overlooked Barton Road for the last two

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T twenty series. I don't know
whether these says they overlooked Barton ROHD.

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Maybe they didn't know people, maybe
they were atted nothing. Although I can

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make my own interpretations, right,
you are free to make your own interpretations.

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But the fact is said, we'll
see after the IPL what happens.

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We'll see after someone like Sanjo Sampson. It's a longer rope in the twenty

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game. Someone like Tilakarma, for
instance, Rahol three parties should have given

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a consistent rope last year. Now
he seems to be a little of forming

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this. That is what you will
do. No, Eventually, when these

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guys come in with heavy duty strike
creates, you'll say, you know what,

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go and do what you've been doing
for your IPL teams or you stayed

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teams in the side mostark. Suddenly
you come into the Indian team and they'll

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be like, oh, you're not
scoring an an Yes, thirty of twelve

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suddenly becomes irrelevant. And somebody who
goes eighty of seventy five balls has an

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average of fifty in twenty four,
aren't you'd be like, wow, you

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know, at least he's scoring runs. We have been saying this question time

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and again, and this notion needs
to be changed. I'm surprised by the

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way guys that Sanju Sampson has been
criticized for his approach in t twenties.

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Right, even in this IP you
can I mean supposed to in a high

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scoring game. You're supposed to go
bang bang, and that is his role

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in the team, either him or
they have the particle will come out at

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number three. Yes, and Samson
has a bigger range of shots particle,

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maybe an early waked. He will
be expected to consolidate, especially if your

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falls along with Butler, to provide
the left right balance and maybe to consolidate

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before you bring in, say your
big guns in Samson. And they also

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have someone that who didn't know,
whom they did not have last year,

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could lower order hitter, improved us
looking a million dollars just getting five seven

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deliveries to phase every time. But
he's just making that impact and going.

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But do you think sorru Before I
go to a couple of other things on

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the strike issue, because we will
just have to discuss this every week,

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because this is the most relevant outcome
for me in the IPL, because that

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is all I want to see how
the established batters do with their strike rates

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and how these younger boys come up
and how they do consistently. So is

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it is it really an approach issue? Clarity of role? Look at what

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Titans did last year, look at
what the Rogerston Royles have done so far

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in twenty twenty three. By the
time we are recording this, they've played

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five matches one four. Of course
they're playing one later on Wednesday. But

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look at that approach, even from
Sampson, even from your should be just

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he has changed his game. Sensational
clarity of role. Yes, the Indian

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00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.799
team has lacked a clarity and that
is what has backfired for them because all

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of three anchors at the top not
going to help. No, it's if

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you're looking at that T twenty World
Cup twenty four, your approach has to

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change the strike it should matter more
than the average. Your runs matter.

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You need to score runs, but
the runs need to come at a quicker

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pace. You can't bat. You
can't face ten overs and score eighteens.

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No, that's not going to help
you face twenty very score fourteins. That

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is going to help. No.
Eight isself a luxury. We did not

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even do that in the T twenty
one. Yeah, that is what I'm

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saying. You need players, young
players who know what to do when they

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go out there. Their approach should
be lear, their role should be clear.

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If you're sending an owner, you
have to going to ask him that.

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Come on now, you're going out, you should use the power play,

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go and hit it out of the
park. If if you want to

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win matches in there, don't the
World Cup anywhere in this world and them

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that a couple of failures are okay, not at the World Cup, but

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before that in the lead up to
the tournament. Give them that consistency.

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No, what are you going to
be okay with Orange Caps? Kale if

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you performance? If he performs performs
the kale opening Kale opening in the twenty

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twenty four World Cup, number three
again, and then we're getting nowlod in

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the first row. They would have
already figured out an eighteen members. Let

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the battle of sound numbers for you. Yeah, current orange cap five d

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plus right reading orange Cap leader strike
it a one seventy two, strike one

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seventy. Check out the one one
forty six, Shugman Gill one thirty nine,

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David one sixteen. We're not calling
one forty seven. So in the

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high one fourties. Yeah, but
there is a lot of difference now between

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one forty seven and one seventy.
Yes, especially when you're playing in Bangalore.

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So look at du plus sees a
strike rate one forty seven regardless of

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whether you play in Bangalore or whether
you play in Sydney is a good number.

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No, it is not that problems. Look at Glen Maxwell at one

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ninety seven. You you have to
those are the conditions you play the conditions

487
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Boss, You have to ask questions. Yeah, we're not playing in hyder

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00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.079
right. If it has become book
cricket, you know, you pick up

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a page and you're like six.
You pick up a page and you score

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twelve yea, So so be it. But you have tom People from the

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00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:30.160
outside don't understand anchor's role, is
what we'ret Coally recently said. In anytime

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00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.200
I nobody understands what anchor roles is, even from people from the inside don't

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00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:37.640
understand. For twenty four you he
sure by anybody contradicting them becomes outside noise.

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Can't be right. Yeah, people
from the outside don't see. That

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was a very good explanation, is
what I thought. See after six overs

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when a spinner comes to bowl,
you see the spinner off for the first

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00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.400
tours so that you can attack him
for in his last spell is what we're

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00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.960
Coally said. You are inco seeing
strike rids one sixty two and what happens

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if you see the Finni in first
two hours and get out on the first

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ball or the third third door,
that is a printing. When that is

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00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.720
what happens, played those six sovers
with a strike rate of one fifty and

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00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.760
then what you do with it?
Why is radically not aggressive against spin?

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00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:12.639
After power play listen, he gave
an explanation for that as back this week,

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and in a couple of minutes she'll
asks you, so stop your l

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fan boy. That is what I'm
saying. Even one. If he's striking

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at one forty seven even and you
have a problem with it, then I

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don't problem. I have a problem
with his approach in the T twenty game,

508
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not just Girard Coali, but also
of the establishing devil. But do

509
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.440
you like the way Rocherma has been
playing this season? As I like his

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00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.760
approach, I like his intent,
then you can't ask for consistency. If

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he's giving you the ten balls early, that's okay, should be happy with.

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00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:43.320
That's what I'm arguing for Sanjoy Sampson
as well. But you can't expect

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him to score you seventy eight every
much because of next episode. If I

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lose a couple of matches. You
will say, Roth has not been playing

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those long innings. You know our
expect I also, noise should stop,

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is what I think you're it's not
very flo Were you impressed with that,

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00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.280
general Grover? Oh, yeah,
definitely. You know it is it easy

518
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.039
to live up to someone's reputation,
like you know, your father is a

519
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:13.000
scientist, and if you go out
to yourself. Fortunately for me, I

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00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:17.079
wouldn't have been judged by my father's
periphee because it wasn't when I used to

521
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:22.639
when I used to flunk, when
I used to do that early school in

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00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:29.320
my subject, I used to flunk. You know, you're you're a teacher

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00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.239
son, you're doing this. That
pressure at that stage itself was too difficult

524
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.280
to handle your mark sheets now and
that pressure at that stage itself was difficult.

525
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And than a million watching him,
and then the good thing is father

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the greatest batsman of all time,
and the sun has just started off his

527
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:51.639
career boo. I mean he can
bat a hundred one debut as well.

528
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Ye, so, but that execution
is what I like. He doesn't have

529
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:59.840
the pace, and he understands that
he doesn't. He bowls and he bolds

530
00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:02.960
the field in that he's twenty three
years old and he's playing only second ipel

531
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And to get that line right,
you can say that only the number nine

532
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and number ten we're playing. But
still no Day is a capable back has

533
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:17.119
finished mainly had to wait two years
for his first le game. It is

534
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not just he was just brought in
the team. He was brought in twenty

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one. I think, yes,
he got injured. He did not played

536
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.400
twenty two also, and this time
he has got he's got. You know,

537
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:30.920
he was bought in the twenty twenty
two player auction was twenty one.

538
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:36.000
When DC or somebody hiked up the
price for m I think it was rajasthan

539
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:42.000
in twenty twent two. I think
he was ready to twenty twenty two one,

540
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.079
but the price hike was an introdued
two. But the point is that

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he had to wait a whole season, and Mumenius have done that. They

542
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:53.079
have released players on the playing eleven
only when they've been completed. And to

543
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:57.159
you know, before we wrap up
this whole talk of nepotism, etcetera,

544
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.639
such as rubbish in sports, because
you'd be found out. You'll be found

545
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.480
out the moment you go into the
field. You can't pick Wickesse. You

546
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.639
can't bowl dot balls, you can't
win matches for your team, you can't

547
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:08.519
be consistent, you'll be found out. So there's no sense of nepotism.

548
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:12.559
Yeah, you either perform, you'll
go out your first name or your mother's

549
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.119
name, whoever, it's not going
to help you, exactly. You're not

550
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:20.079
a batsman is not going to spare
you just because you're such an Otherwise he

551
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.559
wouldn't have been targeted in the second
over on his Ipil debut. So and

552
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:27.480
I'm sure Kumar is not going to
gift his wicket away just because he's getting

553
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:36.880
invited, right, Actually, your
illustrations and examples sometimes can be like India's

554
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:40.079
common man. Exactly before we go. That is also a reminder of us

555
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:45.760
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556
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.639
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557
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558
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.280
how you think the iple has gone
so far. What have been a major

559
00:37:55.360 --> 00:38:00.800
talking points because CSKNM I have been
for sure or you were obviously um you

560
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.599
know much away to debut for mum
by Indians and now we headed towards the

561
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.760
business part of the IPS. Almost
true. Yes, the twenty twenty three

562
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.639
edition of the Indian Premier League and
also fifteen years of the IPL, so

563
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.039
that's been something pretty special. And
very soon it will be a fiftieth episode

564
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.199
of the Sledging Room. So fifteen
years of Art Colli winning and I feel

565
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.719
title. I mean, you know, yeah, But i'd also tell us

566
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.840
the listeners also tell us if we
are being fair to Weart Coali the player.

567
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.320
We don't have to be fair,
we have to be honest. If

568
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.679
you're making fair assessments of art,
you want to have a couple of people

569
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:38.000
are they making fair assessments? What
do you want to say? One forty

570
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.639
seven is not a good strike rate? I can't. I can't not in

571
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:45.960
Bangalore. You have to do better. And one forty seven for Indian ticket

572
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.400
any day. Yeah, he's not
talking about the entire IPL. He's talking

573
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about just one ground where you are
seeing five to places in Lynn Maxwell striking

574
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.840
at one den Conway has a strike
rate similar similar strike ding one forty seven.

575
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:59.800
That's all right because he's also playing
in Chenna. He's playing another when

576
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.679
us. But Viratcoli has played four
of those matches so far in Bangalore,

577
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:08.719
where your other two illustrious batters five
Duplessi, one seventy Glenn Maxwell nearly two

578
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:13.360
hundred. Food for thought, fan
boy. On that note, we'll wrap

579
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.760
it up and come back with a
lot more in the next week as we

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00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:21.639
hurtle towards the fiftieth episode of The
Sledging Room. Constant reminder, because that's

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going to be a very very special
episode