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the faint hearted and the weak need. If you're a sports boff and like
challenging everything you see younger, stay, if you're a fan, walk away
right now. Yeah, okay, every time you need it. You know
that you're recording at four o'clock. Yeah yeah, starting act like how an
IPEL matchange? You know? But on time? Seriously, are these IPIL
matches some of them are getting over quicker than other. The game on Tuesday
took almost four hours, but that also probably because for a lot of pieces
operated in that game more than spinners. But it's it's a revelation this time.
There were some delays in the first first few weeks and then because it
was a little going beyond four four and a half hours in the first first
week. Right, yeahs a couple of matches. So what's changed between last
week and this week is the overrate much more impressive in the ip But what
hasn't changed or of Delhi Capital? Come on? Five matches fils No,
No, My question is the same as the last week because nothing has changed
for Delhi Capitals. Five matches, five defeats. There was a two time
IPL winning captain who was in charge. He stepped down. Well, a
one time I Peel captain who's now in charge of DC. Will he also
stepped down? Should he step down? I think he should and a lot
of changes should happen if DC have to win the upcoming matches, if they
want to win the upcoming matches, especially the way they have been batting.
I mean it is absolutely avistable. I think they got it wrong at the
auction table itself. I don't know, maybe Mitchell Marsh they had or maybe
what happened was when we were talking about DC ahead of the tournament, it
was like every player every oversees batter they have is in form he or whoever
he is, he's going to back the operation out of the park. But
now it doesn't seem like that every batter has failed. You talked about Mitchell
Mars, Riley Rush to talk about Robin Powell. They were all firing guns
before the IPL exactly, and just when they've come to the d setup they've
all started feeling no. But it is also thing about setups, right,
I mean David Warner was fantastic with Sunrise. Once upon a time, the
leading round score took them to Viteen twenty sixteen, but then his fortunees dipped.
He used to look at him. Now they've let go of Nicholas pod
and a lot of these other guys. Yeah, without Bishop, there's that
bigger hole. It seems like it. Yeah, seems like at least the
presence in the dressing room, his ability to you know, lift people the
opposition. Yes, absolutely, Yeah, that is also there. You know,
when he's there in the starting eleven, you kind of feel that he's
going to do someone as an opportion. You have to make plans for him.
Now that he's not there, the person have the time and liberty to
plan for everyone else. Right, No, but it is a fact.
You know. I sometimes wonder because you know, most wicket keepers when they
talk, they say most wicket keepers are chatting. They're supposed to annoy.
It's not a fantastic job. Undoubtedly is a brilliant wicket keeper. But we
all knew that already. I mean, he's come up the ranks through a
very good system in Bengal. You've had deep do group that recent in the
last fifteen twenty years you've had Deepp. Now you have cool um good system
there in Bengal. But my point is maybe you know it also needs them
some level of confidence and some level of expertise to do what Punk does.
I mean Punts did it from the very start, but it needs sexual So
is that Gumpsham missing? Is that is that Delhi Capital Stina looking like,
you know, not quite on the park to win. It's almost like they're
looking like they want the summer to be over and has already, like when
you see a team like CSK. They also did not win the first two
matches I think first first match, sorry, and they were not looking the
team which could go and win the title. Still they have a lot of
problems going on. But the way AMAZONI has backed his place, you've seen
a guy like what a player he has turned into at CSK. So I
mean you need that backing from your captain, your management. Theaplus might have
a lot of good coaches. You have got Shane, what you've got around
James Hopes, But are they have they been able to back the players?
Have they been able to tell the players that yes, you have got our
backing, you go and perform in the fieldre But it's about two facts.
It's about what they're doing on the field. And it's like you pointed out,
did they get entirely wrong at the auction table? Not on the face
of it. On people. You look at what britt be sure David won
openers. Obviously Pant's missing, So you have to fill it up with um.
You are the ones who let go of a few, you know,
if you let go of Robata, imagine on the stage robarda Nokia together,
you let go of Ashwin. Um is not being used to properly. We've
spoken about it. I've been screaming from the rooftops. We spoken it upon
the sledging room. Batting at number seven? Is it his position? Is
it really his position? Given his current form um one US captain c he
sometimes again, you know, is David Warner? He stopped be talking about
one of the greatest modern day cricketers. But looking from the outside, he
almost looks like he's not always there. So now that he has been picked
in the ABC final squad and the squad, would it kind of liberate him?
Agin He must have known that he would be there, could be in
his final test match for Australia depends on what India. You think he will
play that finals? I think he will, But think how can you drop
a guy elect Travis's head who has done so well at the play yea,
and especially after what happened with David wer Win the last word England. I
mean, yes, we don't have stored, but he doesn't have exactly he
doesn't have to face to world but moment Serrat can do that. Take it
away from the left hand, we look at us. You're already going straight
to the World Test Championship that India will lift. Yes, yes, yes,
we all wanted to leave that trophy. I will tell it will be
perfect. It will be a perfect here for Captain Ruby. That'll be a
very crazy title World Cup. So you're saying that will win the IP with
movements like it, how how did you, oh, people who have ruled
no, no, no, no, don't go that far, don't do
that far. We all have a favorite sere yees. I mean, by
the way, just before we head to come back story of cskn and by,
I wanted to bring this point about Sargon Wali. He said the right
thing to a delete capital scamp. That is struggling to even put up some
show on the field. He said, don't worry about qualifying or not qualifying.
Now we are not in a position to do that. Just go out
there and play for your pride and play to prove that this team is not
as bad as it looks on the field. I mean, how much worse
can you get? Games? But it's not going to get worse from here
after three defeats now they have lost five degree of five to the Delhi Capitals.
I mean, obviously I care about what Gongoles is, but I'm saying
to the camp, but what was the staring match between That was something right,
two kings almost getting on, like you know, you were discussing a
couple of days ago that you know, Goole is kind of the barb of
all the mind games. Y. Look, it was we all saw that
from the outside. Saw two things, right, repeated footage going around on
social media and this and that was. One was when Wirt was walking out
in the deep to field and gool was committing athletely, probably looking past him.
There's another footage where I saw where Art was padded up to bat and
sort of walks right past with the you know, drinking from his bottle water
bottle. And the third was where he sort of went past Ricky Ponting the
match, during the two had supposedly allegedly avoid shaking hands with ARTI. Now
we don't know. I mean, they could well be, you know,
but but things have happened in the past where in the press conference he said,
were ARTICALI said he wasn't asked to stay back. Sorrow Gongoli later said,
look, I mean before that, Sorro Gongol, he said, we
had all asked him to stay back. Versions have come through. But and
you could see article hit at fifty. Yeah, he could see his celebration.
It was like he was going to he was playing to prove a point.
And is even the celebrations. A lot of people said that was to
show the world that, look, he's up there with the strike rate game
and then he got out cheaply in that high scoring game against Super Kings,
And all that matters is we're art is still relevant. He is if nobody
nobody said exactly had he not been real, would he said? And you
wouldn't have been I'm not the topic of goalies elevants here. I don't know
what Okay, No, what you're trying to say, I enjoyed that step
And what are you trying to say? I don't know how much of an
impact sarongole make a Steley Capital director of cricket. Let's see, it's like
wet Coli has made a lot of impact, as are seeing back captain winning
them ten tournaments. It looks like you forgot who brought in Amazzoni. But
it's not about winning titles or leading. Okay now now it has gone down
to this, Yeah, it's about gaining the respect of people in the dracing
room. No, so s again, we're not taking size. We just
really really think what happened this weekend, putting out how things look, because
that was that was spice. That was what the ipel or any sort of
high ten cricket gives you. I mean two champions to great captains too,
of India's greatest captain. Yes, absolutely, Um again, we don't know
what's really boiling down, but yes, and an Apple team with Sara as
the head coach or mentor and Weali as a star player or captain. That
would always always be spicy. Yes, that will always be That would have
been a really really good combo is it or I mean the same team.
Yeah, that is not going to happen because because goalie I said, he's
not going to leave RCB and I don't think that my Mike Swivel. Mike
was in shock in shock listening. But that is why I brought up that
Sargon dressing room speech. I like that, you know the way he said
that you now have to just prove that you're not as bad as what you
said. That's done when you don't have the can they do? I don't
know. They don't have the tools like we all thought. Mombi Indians might
have a bad seasonings, might have a non existent batting line of food.
Yeah, what do they You know what I will say, Yes, I
do want DC two win. But the way they have been playing. You
talk about bowling, you talk about batting, you talk about feeling. Yes,
it has been absolutely a whism intent at times. Yes, yes,
we have seen that the team has not gone for the kill. And most
importantly, if you ask me, do you guys think that if they if
they can win one good game against they can win against KKR with a very
good margin in Coola, can it turn around? I don't think so.
Because unlike last year, the top level teams are very closely clustered this way
eight six six six, and I mean it's still I think the number,
the difference between number three and number seven is very very It's just nothing,
right. I mean, it's just a matter of a couple of good games.
So one of the top tier teams to seal the top three four spots
and then it becomes difficult for somebody. And remember it's a ten team tournament
now, so in an eighteen tournament it was easier to climb in and factor
in the net roun rate. You saw what happened to Mumbaians and Chenness super
Kings by the time they started winning a couple of matches, Yes, they
were left. They were I mean everything was, oh yes. And I
think Deli Capitals have already reached their position will be lyrical if they can do
it nine out of nine not happening, quite mathematically possible, mathematically a mathematical
equations. It's obviously victory is one of doom net run rate and figuring out
who your what your batting lineup is, Like can you still go? But
you are a DC fan? Can you rattle off the DC top order they
will have to do. You can you can you can you actually summarize the
DC top order. You can't, you can't. David Juana Russo, where
is xer is relevant of the order? Loud load on the order waters this
role. It's all very complicated, and I sometimes think that it's the more
hype top your coaching staff is, Yes, the more damage it could do.
I mean again, then it's Mumba Indians is an ex contradiction. Look
at Stephen Fleming like just in the background, you must be very happy.
Now, yes, I was just wondering, how do some of these players,
you know, like Shane Watson Mbatira, do they seem like they have
lost the T twenty game and suddenly they come to chenness overs and they just
go have three words for you, okay, magical words tell me um last
ye. Would again do you respect all these guys young bowlers? Would they
fit into any other bowling lineup in the IPA by Indians for sure? Now,
No, I don't think what I meant to ask was would a lot
of these teams really bet on these bowlers they might have with them as backup?
What doing right? He almost says that look give me a bowler who
can bowl straight pa more than one five thirty. Whatever it is. Even
if you go in and you know running and bowl straight, Tony is like
he's in the team. He's a magician. He's a magician Amazonian. How
many captains would have pulled it up from that stage again in that high scoring
game in Bangalore and then he goes and tells his bowlers, should we look
at it like this? How many teams should have lost from that position RCB.
I don't know. Even Delhi capitals are, they're good form. If
they had one, they couldn't have cheered it down. They wouldn't have been
able to defend it. Also, it didn't defend two hundred and well against.
But it's the only magic working for CSK, he pointed out. Ny.
I mean he last year worked was a strike ratee hundred and four,
exactly one hundred, one hundred and two. Even now he's striking it close
to two hundred. Even when he was playing for Raza Stand Royals, he
was scoring those fifties, but that was way way, so many years,
and even then he was not batting so freely. I can't figure out if
he had batted at a secret of two hundred yes in an iqual season before
playing for SNY working And if you look at it, it's not like Rahaney
has been told to go there and swing hard. Noney is not swinging at
all. He's just putting the bad balls away. He's just having that intent
to hit the balls for even the good balls and the bad balls are definitely
going for it to my interesting movie. I don't know how that works if
anyone has an explanation, but I have an explanation. Yeah, Rahaney worked
brilliantly for the Rogers, stan Roys and those six to four an over.
It was very aggressive. He dipped in between out of India's wand the team.
No Ipil team was interested in the auction. CESK came in and picked
him at bass price. And look at the way he's come out, All
guns plaising raid the wrong side of thirty. And they have the younger guns
as well. They have they have all these players, the bowlers, But
I mean, how many of these players are I mean, look at them.
Picked their team on at least sixty to sixty five percent of their buys.
There is hardly any building war as such. Obviously they will go I
mean Ben Stokes was a high stakes player. A lot of other cricketers have
been. But they picked these players and it's almost like and that's what he
said, Tony. You know, Mahibai said, enough of talk of planning,
now executive and they did. And it's that the freedom that theyve is
that they just go They go out there and do whatever you want and not
whatever you want. I will there was giving an interview about sorrow only he
was saying in two thousand and eight, I was not very fit Pakistan team.
They overlooked me for a lot of matches in national matches. But Gamoli
came to me, he said, come to I'll play. John Buchanan,
who was the head coach of Kker he said, no, is not match
fit. I will not risk him. Gami made Tuebeta play against the lead
Devils Magnet was La Devils and this guy tore up that batting attack. Gumb
Abidiviliers said, when the captain comes to you, captain captain Likemzon in this
case comes to you and says I am backing you. You just play you
a game that matters, that matters a lot at that level, you don't
need to teach them how to pull or how to bat. Yes, yest
have to trigger the right trigger points. So I mean he and that is
what Tony has done all his career as Captain of India, captain of the
Super Kings. He just knows the pulse. He knows exactly. But this
impacts a ruler all there. I don't think this will be ms last year
old. Why do you need him to go? Can just come back those
three years and lead the team? No? My point is he can just
lead the team. Yes, and somebody else could come into bat if they
wants to want to. I mean not that they need to post to the
batting line of without any fantastic strike rate. You've only got to Obviously against
Bangalore he faced only two balls. But he's been much better than Judaja,
much better than a lot of finishers in this IPLC. Must better than a
lot of sur batters. Imagine it was a question of only one strike against
Rajasthan Royals, one strike one or two strikes early on. And even in
that game, you have to give trade to Sun dib Shaman that yorcurred not
got it right against AMAZONI Since twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen CSK twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen, again again twenty twenty. So the last six seven years only
one team outside of m I n CSK have one. I think this could
be the same trend. This name I know only I genuinely back Chennai and
am I to at least reach the playoffs. From here. I think CSK
looking primed. This is the way CSK go. Yeah, Mumbi Indians too,
by the way, yes, So are we really looking at It's too
early to say it. Are we looking at a moment versus Jennie Very finals?
That will be too early, but I mean yeah, if you want
to, I have them in my top four now like I did not have
I did not have Mumbai. I made it have public apology also about how
I, you know, under underestimated someone like you has been doing so well.
But look at the Bombi line up. Also, us don't underestimate leg
spinners in the Apishill last year mark this time. I hope Chill performs like
this at the international level. Also, I don't know what happens to him
when he gets there, but maybe the captain and it depends on how it
also depends on how you use him, right so you mean to say Sancho
Sampson greater than as could be. But by rudge, tell me something about
Momba Indians. So they've also been a lot they've also has had a lot
of injuries. Yeah, but someone like Junta getting that opportunity. You know,
there are basic differences also even when there are similarities. Both of them
champion teams. Both of them have a pedigree. But while as ms zonis
calm, not always calm right, you could also see into Shanda dropped that
catch up my him. He did not want to look at Doni or if
one of these young paces they both fractionally off outside outside the line, or
if they bold wide deliveries, they don't look at Mahibai as such. I
think he appearsed to be a lot more flustered. We've talked about that a
lot of times. We will tell you better that can't you know a Pakistan
no West Indies. West in the teat is the West Indies. But yeah,
but even in this ips look clustered. He has, he has,
but I think he's looking a little more relaxed on all they want three considerative
matches. But he also said that when when you look at him as a
captain of Mumba Indians who have done so well. He's not used to,
you know, losing these many matches. Last year, yes, they did
not get out of the mark aft for six matches and then the season was
gone. This time, he said that last year, I didn't even know
when we got off the mark. But I'm happy that we got out of
the mark after two defeats, which would be a different for India if they
do well in Yes, I do think. I think, yes, certainly
believe so that contents will help him a lot, because even last has always
taken pride in how mumber Indians have perform in twenty twenty two, I've never
seen as flustered, as unnoyed, as negatively expressive as he was last year.
I mean it was bizarre to watch because we've always spoken about him as
such a calm collector, yea customer. I mean, they mostly make it
to playoffs, right, so don't forget the contribution of someone like Mark Boucheros.
He took a South African team that was not doing really well and they
beat a lot of Test teams like even India lost to a side that was
coached by Boucher. Maybe he also has his part in, you know,
getting things back in order at Momba Indians. Yeah. I mean they've they've
been blessed with good coaches, even Mahla javerts. And when you talk about
a Mark Boucher, it is not just that m I just went on and
brought him. Yes, they were replacing exactly placing I actually promoted promoted.
Yeah, but at that spot they were looking for resource. They must have.
They must have had look at a lot of condidates. And then you
look at the lineup suck and these teams m I nsk. They know when
to come back, they know what to do when they're losing games. They've
got very good captains, very good coaching staff, and they don't make someone
like Hippa lom Road bat at three and shows probably side bat at seven for
no reason. And even if someone fails there, there is some conviction behind
that move, is what I believe that is. That is in the case
with RB. Yeah, Mahipa Lomroad bats down the order for his stile twenty
seven. Nomroad comes ahead of Glenn Maxwell. Yeah. I think Art we
were lucky that long Road got out for a duck. Yeah, and there
was enough time for duplusy in Maxwell to build a partnership. Naturally aggressive even
at Rajastan Royals and even for his state side header. He needs to come
loader. That's where he's come, that's where he's performed. I mean,
he can be a finisher if you groom him that, but easy on number
three when you're chasing two hund thirty. And what have you done with someone
like Shahbaz Ahmed. He played for India last season, if I'm not wrong,
last season or a couple of seasons he played last season, he played
that chennit As match which India lost to England. And what are you doing
with someone like one? He got you the wicket of and you're giving him
only two overs? But artially we have completely messed this up with their bowling
lineup. You have Siraj again, wicket taker, bowls well in the power
play. Wayne Parnel is not the same Wayne Parnel of a few years back.
It restopped. He was a major, major set back in that first
match. But apart from that, look at your bowling lineup. Has doesn't
always get four overs, does he? Ye? You're not giving enough to
Shahbas Apart from that, where is your bowling and HUSSARNGA If I'm not wrong,
battered at number three for se Lunka in the T twenty world and you're
not trusting him to even finish games for you? Whoever has worked this out
for our CV flat pitch, small ground, do you need a balance or
do you know that? Okay, you know what? We can trust four
proper batters and then let us go in with all rounders and heavy and heavy
duty bowling lineup if we're at duplicy Maxwell and who else dk TK if they
can't do it along with a couple of all rounders, you need to have
seven or eight bowling options for that pitch. And in the last two seasons,
if you look at r CV, not before the season DK was performing
was performing. Yes, Hashtal has gone completely off the radar. He's very
much plitable. Everybody knows what he will do his slower balls, Yes,
in that ground even a miss hit. Yeah. I feel for't returned and
play when he was subbed off. After that, I think we will to
ball. That was completely heart especially after this guy has won a purple cap
and he was deemed as India's finished with ball with the ball in the twenty
DWO one World Cup. What is what is wrong with our CVR over and
everybody? I wanted to ask you one question. Yeah, weard Coli leaving
r CB captaincy has helped him, But has it helped r CV? No?
What will you say for me? Doesn't mean it's the playoffs last year
hasn't made any look they could have finally started winning. I think they also
went to the eliminated last year. Another third, Yes, you know what
the problem is. RCB, like every other team did want to win as
much as many matches at home. You have no scoppered your chances at um.
They have what you don't have a woman attack that is suited for who
know that that home condition and even with your batting lineup and look what we
we we've discussed the net rounded issue as well. We've discussed the strike issues
as well. Right m r CD versus LGG two twelve, weard Coli was
criticized for I mean we criticized from Simon will raise questions they couldn't defend two
hundred twelve. And then you asked, oh, but if you can't defend
two hundred twelve, what does I say about a back bowling line. A
fair question, But I also said that, look, there is a point
where you needed to get those ten fifteen or cskred exactly that Okay, Kayak
couldn't go well. Devin Conway even though he anchored that guy scored at one
seventy one and Rahana and Shivam Dube finished it for you. What was the
result two hundred and twenty six eight run victory for CSK at the end despite
that explosive partnership from duplesim Maxwell. But eight run is not a thriller.
It is a convincing victory in the high scoring game, especially on track,
which meant that by the time the last ball was bold, RCB had no
chance of winning it unless, yes, an illegal deligree. So that is
a convincing victory given how head to head, how these two teams went up
until the sixteenth or the fifteenth over, So that is the difference. But
coming to that, is it also a point about Indian batters. Where is
the strike rid concern? Why shouldn't it be a concern? Look at the
way Nicolus boot And has battle. Look at the way Cameron Green has bat
Marcus tooyn is Harry Broke and has been going all guns blazing. I'll look
at the more established cricketer Skli and look at the way Sunjo Samson batted against
sun I think he's been brilliant. Yeah, because at least he has her
intent. Absolutely, that was a treat to take downs like that. I
in my memory, I have not seen anyone hitting and and it was it
was. It was a battle of table toppers. Yes, you played the
final last year. It was not like he came at one hundred for two
hundred that. Yes, they had lost early weekends and chasing. They must
have pression on Sunday Sampson, especially because they had lost three games against last
season. They're playing this fourth game and if not for that assault against Shikan,
they might have lost this game also exactly, you know what is going
against Sunjo Sampson. But are you going to reward him for this bravery or
are you going to look at you should do what Sanju Samson for his brave
even even at for India. Right, he goes for his shots. Yes,
you can criticize him, probably the one day format that give yourself a
little bit of time. Look at what you was almost about to pull off
against South Africa. But in the T twenty format, how much more can
you expect place to do the problem with the Indian set up is that they
have also started looking at averages so seriously that you forget what you're doing with
the pace of your innings. And that is why batsman after batsman, even
if they do well, even if they have good T twenty pedigree, they
come and do what Kala has been doing. Yes, you're not rewarding someone
for let's say an average of thirty twenty eight and a strikead of on eight.
These guys start need to be rewarded. Yes, Sanju Samson needs to
be rewarded. Look at that game against between and am I. Right,
Cameron Green anchored the Nis on a pitch, on a two paced pitch like
that. It is understandable he tried to hit out. He did that successfully,
going one hundred, one hundred and twenty four. He tried. But
you could justify her innings on a pitch like that. Yes, yes,
Yet look at someone I look for a mass coos are two hundred. You
need talent, yes, Luck Forma is prodigiously talented. A left handed batter
in the middle order and the way he bats, he knows when to anchor
the endings, he knows when to go and he has done it for Mumbai
in this season. Yeah, and doing that in front of your home crowd,
breaking their hearts, I'm going to be loved. I think it was
his first imple game at I mean that was a moment for him. But
he did brilliantly. I think he's not just this season. Even last season
he was also came to Banglore and won them the match. Sois by anchoring
dealings eighteen bling less he was almost about to help Bangalore. There's another way
of looking at it. But no, I mean jokes aside, this is
this is now. Questions need to be asked of the India battles. Even
in the MS game, the India batters struggled more than the overparted guys.
But then also we India's selection committee have overlooked Barton Road for the last two
T twenty series. I don't know whether these says they overlooked Barton ROHD.
Maybe they didn't know people, maybe they were atted nothing. Although I can
make my own interpretations, right, you are free to make your own interpretations.
But the fact is said, we'll see after the IPL what happens.
We'll see after someone like Sanjo Sampson. It's a longer rope in the twenty
game. Someone like Tilakarma, for instance, Rahol three parties should have given
a consistent rope last year. Now he seems to be a little of forming
this. That is what you will do. No, Eventually, when these
guys come in with heavy duty strike creates, you'll say, you know what,
go and do what you've been doing for your IPL teams or you stayed
teams in the side mostark. Suddenly you come into the Indian team and they'll
be like, oh, you're not scoring an an Yes, thirty of twelve
suddenly becomes irrelevant. And somebody who goes eighty of seventy five balls has an
average of fifty in twenty four, aren't you'd be like, wow, you
know, at least he's scoring runs. We have been saying this question time
and again, and this notion needs to be changed. I'm surprised by the
way guys that Sanju Sampson has been criticized for his approach in t twenties.
Right, even in this IP you can I mean supposed to in a high
scoring game. You're supposed to go bang bang, and that is his role
in the team, either him or they have the particle will come out at
number three. Yes, and Samson has a bigger range of shots particle,
maybe an early waked. He will be expected to consolidate, especially if your
falls along with Butler, to provide the left right balance and maybe to consolidate
before you bring in, say your big guns in Samson. And they also
have someone that who didn't know, whom they did not have last year,
could lower order hitter, improved us looking a million dollars just getting five seven
deliveries to phase every time. But he's just making that impact and going.
But do you think sorru Before I go to a couple of other things on
the strike issue, because we will just have to discuss this every week,
because this is the most relevant outcome for me in the IPL, because that
is all I want to see how the established batters do with their strike rates
and how these younger boys come up and how they do consistently. So is
it is it really an approach issue? Clarity of role? Look at what
Titans did last year, look at what the Rogerston Royles have done so far
in twenty twenty three. By the time we are recording this, they've played
five matches one four. Of course they're playing one later on Wednesday. But
look at that approach, even from Sampson, even from your should be just
he has changed his game. Sensational clarity of role. Yes, the Indian
team has lacked a clarity and that is what has backfired for them because all
of three anchors at the top not going to help. No, it's if
you're looking at that T twenty World Cup twenty four, your approach has to
change the strike it should matter more than the average. Your runs matter.
You need to score runs, but the runs need to come at a quicker
pace. You can't bat. You can't face ten overs and score eighteens.
No, that's not going to help you face twenty very score fourteins. That
is going to help. No. Eight isself a luxury. We did not
even do that in the T twenty one. Yeah, that is what I'm
saying. You need players, young players who know what to do when they
go out there. Their approach should be lear, their role should be clear.
If you're sending an owner, you have to going to ask him that.
Come on now, you're going out, you should use the power play,
go and hit it out of the park. If if you want to
win matches in there, don't the World Cup anywhere in this world and them
that a couple of failures are okay, not at the World Cup, but
before that in the lead up to the tournament. Give them that consistency.
No, what are you going to be okay with Orange Caps? Kale if
you performance? If he performs performs the kale opening Kale opening in the twenty
twenty four World Cup, number three again, and then we're getting nowlod in
the first row. They would have already figured out an eighteen members. Let
the battle of sound numbers for you. Yeah, current orange cap five d
plus right reading orange Cap leader strike it a one seventy two, strike one
seventy. Check out the one one forty six, Shugman Gill one thirty nine,
David one sixteen. We're not calling one forty seven. So in the
high one fourties. Yeah, but there is a lot of difference now between
one forty seven and one seventy. Yes, especially when you're playing in Bangalore.
So look at du plus sees a strike rate one forty seven regardless of
whether you play in Bangalore or whether you play in Sydney is a good number.
No, it is not that problems. Look at Glen Maxwell at one
ninety seven. You you have to those are the conditions you play the conditions
Boss, You have to ask questions. Yeah, we're not playing in hyder
right. If it has become book cricket, you know, you pick up
a page and you're like six. You pick up a page and you score
twelve yea, So so be it. But you have tom People from the
outside don't understand anchor's role, is what we'ret Coally recently said. In anytime
I nobody understands what anchor roles is, even from people from the inside don't
understand. For twenty four you he sure by anybody contradicting them becomes outside noise.
Can't be right. Yeah, people from the outside don't see. That
was a very good explanation, is what I thought. See after six overs
when a spinner comes to bowl, you see the spinner off for the first
tours so that you can attack him for in his last spell is what we're
Coally said. You are inco seeing strike rids one sixty two and what happens
if you see the Finni in first two hours and get out on the first
ball or the third third door, that is a printing. When that is
what happens, played those six sovers with a strike rate of one fifty and
then what you do with it? Why is radically not aggressive against spin?
After power play listen, he gave an explanation for that as back this week,
and in a couple of minutes she'll asks you, so stop your l
fan boy. That is what I'm saying. Even one. If he's striking
at one forty seven even and you have a problem with it, then I
don't problem. I have a problem with his approach in the T twenty game,
not just Girard Coali, but also of the establishing devil. But do
you like the way Rocherma has been playing this season? As I like his
approach, I like his intent, then you can't ask for consistency. If
he's giving you the ten balls early, that's okay, should be happy with.
That's what I'm arguing for Sanjoy Sampson as well. But you can't expect
him to score you seventy eight every much because of next episode. If I
lose a couple of matches. You will say, Roth has not been playing
those long innings. You know our expect I also, noise should stop,
is what I think you're it's not very flo Were you impressed with that,
general Grover? Oh, yeah, definitely. You know it is it easy
to live up to someone's reputation, like you know, your father is a
scientist, and if you go out to yourself. Fortunately for me, I
wouldn't have been judged by my father's periphee because it wasn't when I used to
when I used to flunk, when I used to do that early school in
my subject, I used to flunk. You know, you're you're a teacher
son, you're doing this. That pressure at that stage itself was too difficult
to handle your mark sheets now and that pressure at that stage itself was difficult.
And than a million watching him, and then the good thing is father
the greatest batsman of all time, and the sun has just started off his
career boo. I mean he can bat a hundred one debut as well.
Ye, so, but that execution is what I like. He doesn't have
the pace, and he understands that he doesn't. He bowls and he bolds
the field in that he's twenty three years old and he's playing only second ipel
And to get that line right, you can say that only the number nine
and number ten we're playing. But still no Day is a capable back has
finished mainly had to wait two years for his first le game. It is
not just he was just brought in the team. He was brought in twenty
one. I think, yes, he got injured. He did not played
twenty two also, and this time he has got he's got. You know,
he was bought in the twenty twenty two player auction was twenty one.
When DC or somebody hiked up the price for m I think it was rajasthan
in twenty twent two. I think he was ready to twenty twenty two one,
but the price hike was an introdued two. But the point is that
he had to wait a whole season, and Mumenius have done that. They
have released players on the playing eleven only when they've been completed. And to
you know, before we wrap up this whole talk of nepotism, etcetera,
such as rubbish in sports, because you'd be found out. You'll be found
out the moment you go into the field. You can't pick Wickesse. You
can't bowl dot balls, you can't win matches for your team, you can't
be consistent, you'll be found out. So there's no sense of nepotism.
Yeah, you either perform, you'll go out your first name or your mother's
name, whoever, it's not going to help you, exactly. You're not
a batsman is not going to spare you just because you're such an Otherwise he
wouldn't have been targeted in the second over on his Ipil debut. So and
I'm sure Kumar is not going to gift his wicket away just because he's getting
invited, right, Actually, your illustrations and examples sometimes can be like India's
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how you think the iple has gone so far. What have been a major
talking points because CSKNM I have been for sure or you were obviously um you
know much away to debut for mum by Indians and now we headed towards the
business part of the IPS. Almost true. Yes, the twenty twenty three
edition of the Indian Premier League and also fifteen years of the IPL, so
that's been something pretty special. And very soon it will be a fiftieth episode
of the Sledging Room. So fifteen years of Art Colli winning and I feel
title. I mean, you know, yeah, But i'd also tell us
the listeners also tell us if we are being fair to Weart Coali the player.
We don't have to be fair, we have to be honest. If
you're making fair assessments of art, you want to have a couple of people
are they making fair assessments? What do you want to say? One forty
seven is not a good strike rate? I can't. I can't not in
Bangalore. You have to do better. And one forty seven for Indian ticket
any day. Yeah, he's not talking about the entire IPL. He's talking
about just one ground where you are seeing five to places in Lynn Maxwell striking
at one den Conway has a strike rate similar similar strike ding one forty seven.
That's all right because he's also playing in Chenna. He's playing another when
us. But Viratcoli has played four of those matches so far in Bangalore,
where your other two illustrious batters five Duplessi, one seventy Glenn Maxwell nearly two
hundred. Food for thought, fan boy. On that note, we'll wrap
it up and come back with a lot more in the next week as we
hurtle towards the fiftieth episode of The Sledging Room. Constant reminder, because that's
going to be a very very special episode