Streamy Live. I mean I heard radio. Wow. This is I on
the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacob Salez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey,
welcome back toying the ball, you know, Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
I'm Steve, He's Jay because I'm hoping Joe Jay did his homework. This
is I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Not
a lot of homework, but some homework. You took one of my breaking
news items with Troy Hutchison on the on the phone. But you know the
news about Mason Bray, Heath Bray's son, quarterback Scottsdale Sware High School won
a state championship six a state championship there last year, has earned a has
gotten an offer to be at Arizona, to play at Arizona. His fake
Facebook post Facebook Twitter post was great. He had put a picture of his
dad up there in his uniform number fourteen. What a story that would be
if okay, and you know, and you know, I think he's coming
because his mom you know who she is, right, you know the relationship
Coach Smith's daughter, Larry Smith's daughter, Heath Bread's wife. Oh, I
didn't have that ex wife the father of well, so yeah, she posted
something, you know, so I looked, He's like he's coming, He's
gonna come. Wow. So yeah, she's very grateful for this. And
so it's yeah, coach Smith's grandson. Nice the late greats and you have
to wear a number fourteen. Such a big story, right, such a
big it is. It is a big, a good story. It's just
one of those touching things on the football that you know, Yeah, that
a program loves to have. I'm not that they under the circum under the
circumstances that you know, it just would make all kinds of sense if if
if the son would come, become to Arizona and continue his dad's legacy or
or add to his legacy. So that would be that would be great.
So so there's that. So, uh, speaking a little bit of Final
four to you. So this came across a little bit ago. The average
ticket price for a women's Final four Friday session, which is the two games,
okay, four fifty. Oh you're low, really you're low. What
is the starting ticket price? I should say? What is seven dollars for
one? For one? Yeah, Cleveland, what's the switch? The last
year's the average was four seventy nine. What's the what's the size of the
building. I wanted? It's it's a regular Arena's Cleveland where it must be?
Where the Cavaliers because because uh, because I have two for for Monday.
You have a couple of tickets on Somebody says, can you see if
you have friends that want to buy? Yeah, yeah, they're not mine.
Yeah, not mind someone they want me to see if I help some
people. Pretty cool, very cool. Yeah, So Women's Final four tickets
going going crazy again, you know, keeping the the the narrative that it's
women's women's basketball isn't. No, but it's different in fact, in fact,
the guys from last sight, I guess a bunch of grump people then
say the game has changed. It's no longer slow. No, it's not.
It's it's a different game. I mean they play, they play.
I mean they're good basketball players. Yeah, they're really good basketball And not
to say the other ones weren't till the previous ones weren't. This year,
it's just different. There, there's more of it, all right, Okay,
since you're since you're out of it. Latest odds for the men's Final
four, mm hmm. You can two to one minus one ninety five one
and half Perdue. It's two to one two five, yeah, plus two
five. Then North Carolina State and Alabama both at plus sixteen hundred. Yeah,
long odds for uh sure the other two you never know though. Final
fourth kind of strange. If the battle gets hot, they start shooting the
lights out against Purdue, don't and don't have to worry about it. I
wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. And and I guess
if there's a team, I mean North Calina State is playing Purdue. I
guess if there's a team physical enough to take on Purdue, it would be
North Carolina State. You know the maybe maybe you know Edie gets neutralized a
little bit with the big guy that North Carolina State has inside. But those
are those are the odds. So if would you put it on Yukon if
you had to put something down, Yeah, but that's number now Yeah,
well no, not at that number, but I mean if you had,
if I had to, yeah, yeah, but you could have got him
at four or five six earlier. Yeah. So your Buffalo Bills are trading
away the all the pieces to the team that should have won a Super Bowl
sometime in the last three or four years. Stefan Diggs got traded this morning
to Houston for a second round draft pick and a couple of other things thrown
in a bag of balls and stuff like that thrown in there. But Digs
going to Houston to play with CJ. Stroud, which should be interesting,
right, Yeah, no, it should be Buffalo takes another hit. Yeah,
the talented team that loses some talent. Today was one of those you
saw one of those uh means you're seeing that picture where where Will Smith is
standing in the empty living room? They always posted when you know, where
did everybody go? And they had the same living room, but it was
Josh Allen sitting on the floor. It's like Josh Allen, I remember that.
No furniture, no furniture, no nothing. Josh Allen in the in
the in the Bill's locker room. This is funny. Okay, this is
funny. So we know those games all in the Northeast. Rain delays a
lot of rain outs every day. The Reds and the Phillies are are waiting
out of rain delay and they're gonna wait waited out as long as they possibly
can because they can't play the game tomorrow at the Philly Stadium at Citizens Bank
Park because there's a wedding schedules. Really, you know, how I should
they scheduled a wedding in the middle of baseball, well, at the beginning
of baseball season at the at the Phillies Ballpark and uh and uh imagine the
people throwing stuff at that. Yeah, so the people upset about that.
News about our friend Evan Mayakawa. Evan who's been on our show a few
times. He developed this analytics uh program or whatever you would call it.
That a lot of people use. We you know, we refer to it
all the time, basketball stuff, a lot of media us and stuff like
that. He's had a job uh uh I don't know where where was it
working. He was at a number of tech like a he was like an
engineer. Anyways, he's this this thing has turned into a business venture for
him, so he's leaving it to to do this uh this work full time
with his college basketball analytics. If you've never looked him up his uh his
Twitter feed is at Evan MYA E v A N M I y A.
You can look him up there. His website is the same thing Evan dot
com. You can see some stuff, but most of it is subscription,
but it's a lot of good information. I've yet to subscribed to him because
what we've needed we've been able to get for free. But he's been on
the show a few times, so very interesting stuff that the guy who really
built his own company, you know, from just being a smart dude.
Yeah, no, no, and he's got something. I mean, he's
got something. And then the geekshell inherit the earth and he's he's one of
them. Yeah, because he's got something. He's like the what do you
call it, the bracketology guy. Yeah, you know when you come up
with some kind of fun and people are starting to quote him and to analytic
him and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, But I'm just I'm trying
to look at this because I didn't. I can't, I haven't just this
just came up from the Arizon, the Daily Star, but it says that
Roman Bravo Young will be wrestling for will be representing Mexico and the US.
Oh really just the or just Mexico. I think just Mexico. Okay,
I could be wrong. Okay, So anyway, but he so he's been
wrestling for Mexico in the Olympics, which is which is very cool. So
I guess I would imagine that if if if I dreamy human doesn't make the
US team, that you would have the shot, because isn't it if your
grandparents are from another country, you can represent that country, right? Yeah?
Which is how freaking Josh Green got up in this in the Ring of
Honor, you know, you and another well guess what, And there's some
people that don't like this too, but Caleb Love is going to be up
there too, because Packed twelve census all American. I packed up players,
but you're just an all American. The wouldn't a prominent one. And then
Packed twelve. How do you? How do you, mister grumpy, how
do you feel? You know, I wouldn't mind if they put a a
requirement that they have to play two years here before you can get in the
Ring of Honor. Yeah, that's that's the The barn is already you'd have
to go back the barn already, go back and review that. But the
barn doors again because guys like you know, Zeke Nod, Josh Green,
even DeAndre Aight, you know those guys don't be long The Ring of Honors,
you don't even know them, made an impact, right, you know,
on a program for a period of time, not six months. Yeah,
in recent and recent to Twitter that I saw that Damon was trying to
advocate for. Maybe it was a recent one, a little we TJ McConnell.
Eventually, TJ McConnell will be in because he's got to get ten years
in the NBA. Yeah. And if there's a guy that did over these
old guys right right, you know for the I mean, he only played
two years here because of you know, the traffers. But if there's a
guy who had an impact because not only was he a great player, he
was he was a dude and he was a guy that that that might be
a little biased of you and me, but he was. He was talking
about being a dude and accessible and good. Not just accessible. I'm talking
about you could tell that even though he didn't start his career here, it
meant something for him to wear the Arizona uniform and that team would not have
been that team that it was. You know, go to go to DeAndre
Ayden's closet, Go to Zeke Nadger's closet, Go to Josh Green's closet.
And are you gonna find an Arizona jersey? Probably not, probably not,
But if you go to if you go to T. J. McConnell's,
you probably will. Yeah, Well, you get an isolation talked about.
He got an insulation when he was here for the the meth room. And
that's what I'm talking about, is that to be up there, the school
needs to have meant something to you. And and there's there's a few people
up there who you know, it meant nothing to that. It meant an
opportunity to play for six months. Buckle up, it's gonna continue to know,
Well, yeah, because of what we're in the sufficial where now where
guys are gonna come and go, you know, for a year. But
you know, Caleb look, I like Caleb Love. I I respect him
for how he came here and handled his stuff at Arizona. We all had
doubts about that, right. But do I think Caleb Love is going to
go home and bleed red and blew the rest of his life? I don't.
I don't believe he will. Well, he think finally of Arizona.
Sure, you think think finally of North Carolina too, And he probably would
have thought finally of Michigan if you're gone. Well, here's what I don't
think Arizona is in his blood. No, And here's the issue with North
Carolina who somebody yesteh. I was with the guy who who was sitting in
the Arizona area last Thursday and next to some North Carolina fans, and he
told me that the North Carolina fans reached over and said, I'm glad you
have him this year. Yeah, and of course, of course was his
wordness. And during the interviews of the day before, he said he left
because there was a lot of negative publicity because of how he played and who
he was. And guess what a year later kind of getting the same stuff.
Yeah, yeah, So you know, Uh, I don't know.
This is interesting. So an anonymous poll of ninety five Double A tournament players,
uh, only two said that Kim Mulkie is a coach that they would
want to play for. I don't disagree with him. Down Staley at South
Carolina, you know, with the landslide winner in in that In that the
only only two of the coaches got more than five votes, and they were
Gino Ariema at Connecticut and then Kentucky's Kenny Brooks. And then when they voted
for who they would least like to play for, because when they vote for
who they would most like to play for, she only got two votes.
Then when they said who would you least like to play for her, she
was voted the most one that they would least like to play for. Don't
not a shock. I haven't read the story, though you'll see you want
you read the story, you'll understand why. You understand why I think today's
kids, today's kids aren't that now. Bobby Knight, his eric came and
left Molki's time as a coach, and she's a brilliant coach. Obviously,
you don't win by accident. Uh, it's just that style doesn't work anymore,
even though they won a title last year. Let mean yeah, playing
under fear is a tough thing. And in my story with uh with Tommy
for you guys two sons, just a few months ago, I don't know
if I remember saying this, writing this. He was the perfect dude after
Sean, perfect dude. Yeah, because Sean was his way right right,
and Tommy let them loose, Yeah yeah, yeah exactly, he did cut
you know, yeah, hell, let them relax, is what he did,
and that's they've been able to do what they've been able to do.
Absolutely. All right, should we take our break down? Yeah, all
right, we're gonna have uh a Ken Hockey the Pema baseball coach just got
his two hundred win over at Pima. Not Jason Hawk. No, I
got I got this down. I got this down. Well, we will
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Sports fourteenth fifty Hey Welcome back to Eye on the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now on the phone, we have
Ken howckemy beat Pima Pastics baseball coach, the surging pastics coach. How are
you right right? You appreciate you guys having me on because you should.
You're you're killing it a lot of a lot of wins lately. What's going
on. We're just trying to play the best baseball we can at the right
time. So our guys are doing a good job and we're just kind of
collect as many wins as we can and trying to get the postseason plays.
So from from year to your coach, do you are your teams different?
A vastly different, A little different? How different do they get, you
know, from year to year? Yeah, I think I think every year
there's a little different. Uh, you know, you have a little bit
different teams. Sometimes they can really pitch, sometimes they can really pitch.
Sometimes they're big and strong, sometimes they can really run. I mean,
so every year we have a different group and we're just trying to put them
all on the field and see what the best way is for us to win
games. So in that regard. I was gonna say, in that regard,
how is this year's team different from last year? Uh? You know,
last year we're really left handed on the mound. This year we're not.
This year we're primarily right handed. Uh. Our pitchers have done a
great job. I mean, we're really deep on the mounds. I really
like our our guys on the mound. Offensively, we're uh, you know,
we're good, We're not great, So we have to do things the
right way. We got to be able to move runners or runners when we
get opportunities, play short game when we need to, so, you know,
we got to manufacture run and if we can do that, our our
pitching staff has done a great job of keeping the other team from scoring.
So, uh, that's kind of what what our team looks like this year.
Kind of sounds you're scouting right now or something at a baseball game or
something. But they've won ten. Yeah, I am, I'm watching.
I'm watching some some guys that we signed for next year. I'm watching Cdeo
and Catalina Foothills play right now. So yeah, you know, it's it's
that's part of the job. If you're not out recruiting and looking for players
and trying to find players. You're falling behind, right, So that's kind
of where we're at right now. Let me tell the stats. So you've
won ten out of twelve recently, you're thirty two and ten and you've won
thirty or more games five straight years. Wow, it's been fun. It's
been a good it's been it's been a good, good ride so far.
And you know the thing about it is, we feel like we've built something
here where people are interested in coming to PEMA and play. So you know,
when that happens, you feel good about where you're at and it's much
easier to recruit players because there's a little bit of a tradition there. So
that's kind of where we're at. So it was duly noted. I think
it was last week that you won your two hundredth game at Pima. How
meaningful was that to you? You know, it's just a number, it
really is. I mean, obviously it didn't mean something, but you know,
that's uh, we got to talk about all the people that were involved,
all the players that gave us a chance, and all the coaches that
helped us win those games. It certainly wasn't me, right and I'll never
take full credit for that. You know, I'm the one that gets to
win by his name. But at the end of the day, there's so
many people that were involved in helping us win those games, and I'm certainly
thankful for each and every one of them. Yeah, no, shot.
So let me ask you a question because I'm looking at your record. You
guys are nineteen and three at home, nine and seven on the road.
Is there a home field advantage in JC Baseball? Really or not? You
know, I don't know if there is, but there is. I mean
there's just something about being at home, something about you know, waking up
in your own bed, coming to the park, doing things on your schedule,
not having to get on a bus, you know, things like that.
So I mean, as much as you don't think that there's a big
advantage of playing at home, I think there really is. You know,
guys are just more comfortable, have you. I know you your team is
different this year, But have you changed as a coach? Have they made
you change as a coach? You know, if you if you don't change
as a coach every year, then then you're going to struggle. I mean,
part of coaching is adapting to to what you have, the type of
players you have, and you know, you've got to continue to learn and
get better and change things for the better. So I mean, yeah,
there's been some changes, and I'm certainly not the same coach I was,
you know, twenty five years ago, and so you know, it's just
times change and coaches change and kids change, and so you got to you
got to, you know, work with that and develop kids in different ways.
But at the end of the day, I mean the goal is still
the same, win as many games as possible, develop kids and move them
on to the next. But well, we'll going to that a little bit,
because you know, you know, every sport is being affected by things
going on at the at the Division one level or the you know college level
that you know, transfer players moving on. How have the players the types
of players that you're getting now, has that been impacted and has that changed
with the things that are going on at the higher level you know a little
bit, a little bit. I mean, it's it's kind of a crazy
world with Division one transfer portal and the n I L and just things like
that. Kids get wrapped up and into wanting to go Division one. I
mean, obviously that's the that's the majority of kids that play sports as their
goal is to play at a Division one school. And so when they get
that opportunity, lots of them jump on it and and they go out and
and they get to the school and then they have to sit and watch and
then and then the game isn't as fun as it used to be. So
I get some of those kids who have come back. I mean, I've
got a couple of kids, you know, so we're at New Mexico last
year. I got to hit some long beach stay the kids from Illinois.
I mean, I've got some kids that went out and tried it and uh
decided it wasn't the best thing for them, and and they wanted to get
on the field. So they're back here and helping us win games. Do
they come back with a different approach maybe than they might have had if they
had just come straight there. I think I think a lot of them do,
yeah, because they understand what it takes to play at that level and
they all want to get back to it. So they just want to,
uh, they want to work, They want to work hard, they want
to work on some of the deficiencies that they had that kept them from playing
at that next level. And uh, you know, so they get to
the US and they go to work and they want to they want to get
better so they can move back to the schools that they either were at or
different sits. I know this is a bad word to use, and I
want to say it not knowing nothing, not meaning it this way. So
there's been a lot of success at PEM up soccer, men's and women's basketball,
men's and women's or other sports as well. Is there pressure to succeed?
And I don't even mean pressure the other word is mean or to sustain
that success. I wouldn't say there's pressure. I mean, you know,
I mean obviously there's you know, with with all the great programs that we
have at PEMA, I mean there's there's a mindset that we all have that
we all want to be good and we understand that. H there's a lot
of sports that do a good job and win championships, so we all want
to be a part of it. So I think it's, uh, you
know, it's one of those things. As a coach, you want to
make sure that you're doing what you can do. Beca is doing what she
can do Todd and Bryan and so everybody. Everybody wants to be good and
because the other sports are good, and so I don't think there's any pressure.
There's just a lot to be good. And that's why are our athletic
program is great. You know. We have a lot of good coaches there
that all have the same goal and uh, and we get players and we
coach them up and we develop him and we win games and we move him
on. And so we're all proud of that. Talking about moving on your
your the boss is going to be moving on, So there could be change
at the top. There could be well there there's not going to be there,
so it'll be interested. You know, obviously we're all going to be
interested in seeing what happens there. Monico has done a great job and we
all, uh, we all are going to miss him and what he's done
for our programs. And now it's just going to be uh trying to figure
out who's next and what we can do to help support that person. Yeah.
So, uh, I think a lot of us have known Jason for
a long time. Has it been coaching with him? Is he you know,
is it been do you guys get I mean? Is there any brotherly
things going on? Do you give each other stuff? I mean, how's
the relationship on the field with with with him there? Oh, it's been
great. I mean, you know, we we spent so many years apart,
you want our own things, and me coaching in the state and playing
pro ball, our families living away from Tucson, and now to be home
and be here together and be able to see him every day, it's been
awesome. And uh, I certainly appreciate every minute I have to spend with
him because I've missed so many years. And he's just a great asset to
have and make serience and he has at the highest level can help all of
us. So you got about the first the first week of April. What's
left with you guys or for you guys? Well, we have, uh
I think we have. Let's see fourteen games less I believe, and uh
you know this is the this is the toughest part of our schedule. So
we've got Eastern Arizona coming on Saturday, and then we played Central Arizona on
Tuesday, both at home. Central's right number two in the country. They're
really really good. They beat us twice at their place. But like I
told our team, hey, you guys are the champions. I believe you're
the best team in the conference. You just have to play like the best
team. And if we do that, we'll we'll we'll come out we'll come
out on top. So you know, we we've just got to we've got
to buckle down and play our best baseball here to finish the year. Okay,
well, coach, we really appreciate your time. Good luck the rest
of the way. A lot of games have you played. I appreciate it.
Thanks, thanks for having me on, and we're looking forward to finishing
the year. Good luck. Thank you, coach. Talk to you soon,
all right, all right, have a goot, good one. Thanks,
thank you. It's funny. It's funny to me. He's not that
old. I mean talked about he's been doing it for a long time,
twenty five thirty years whatever, is uh to me. They're fairly young,
younger than yeah, so let's say say he's fifty, is that yeah,
So you know, started when he was really young coaching. Now. I
love Jason. He played on that city league baseball team with a couple Rich
knows him. This was actually really fun. I know, if I've ever
told this. It's actually a really funny story because since he was a pitcher,
I didn't we could have a designated hitter, right, And so this
one day, you know, we had we had a couple of extra guys,
so I'd wanted to play. You know, I was the one who
made the line up. I would have play as many guys I can't.
So he was gonna pitch, and then I had a designated hitter for him.
And Rich told me, comes up to me and says, why are
you d you know, why are you d hing for Jason? I said,
well, he's a pitcher. He goes, he was a pitcher in
the major leagues. He's hit major league pitching. He's probably the best hitter
on the TV. You're right, let me change that up. Sure enough,
Jason. But he was a great hitter. These pictures that he was
seeing and he's playing, he's played. He's like you remember the dog truck.
Yeah, he's an a dog and he'd be able to win the race.
Yeah, he was. He was fun. He was very fun because
you know what was great about him when he played with us was that he
wasn't caught up in who he had been. He was just starting to playing
baseball with his friends and have some fun. This. Yeah, he didn't
big time anybody. Uh, you know, he showed up for games if
we had him play left field and play left field or first base or whatever
and he pitched. Did he smoke him? Now? Because you know by
that time, he wasn't throwing like he would throw the major leagues, right
he was, you know, he just I mean, he was a really
good pitcher, but I'm saying he didn't just you know, smoke everybody.
I mean, same with Joe Estes. Remember he played, he played you
know, hight level. He was in that league. And I could hit
Joe because he didn't throw hard. The problem was all let me see this
way. I felt like I could hit Joe Estes because Joe est just didn't
throw hard. But you know what, he never threw a ball over the
plane. Everything was on a corner and that and that's what made the difference
between you know us who you know who pitcher just tried to throw it over
the plate and you threw it down the middle, and a guy like Joe
who would pick a spot throw it to there. He was you know,
Jason. Both Jason and Joe were really good pictures in that league. But
they didn't blow people away. He didn't throw so hard he blew people away.
Went put it that way. But he was really he was really good
and he was fun. Like I said, he was fun to play with.
He was he was a crack up. Okay, you let's just take
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This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacinzalez on Fox Sports
fourteen to fifteen. Hey, welcome back to you. I on the Ball
here a Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. We have
seventeen minutes. Help us get through us Collis. You have never called Collis
and let us know how we do or what we say is full of it.
I got come up to me at Bop Domsay listens to the show.
He remembered me from our TEP days. I unfortunately being the brain dead guy
that I am. I couldn't remember him, but he came up and we
talked a little bit, and then he said he listens to the show and
he loves us to make a comment about the quality of our sound at some
times. And we know that, we know that, but it was good
to you know, somebody out of the blue come up and say that they
love this. You might explain the dead air too, because I just got
a text here that day. You guess it's part of the national Yeah,
we can't do much about it. Yeah, at the beginning of each hour,
it starts like that. But yeah, so very cool. But would
love to hear if you've got some thoughts on this final four coming up.
Men's are women's right, Yes, you know we I mean I've been paying
attention to the women's as well. I think you have. And it's it's
those are some compellings. Whereas the page Backer story, I mean, what
you know, the Connecticut player, you know, suffer from you know,
horrific knee injury. She was thought to be like the generational player coming up,
and then she was Cleitland Clark before Kitland Clark was exactly she had that
knee injury, but she she didn't have a knee injury at the time that
Arizona beat them in the final four. Yeah, you know they beat them
with her on that team, playing playing well, and uh you know that's
been you know, the thing that the Arizona has been able to hang its
hat on. But you know, there's her, There's Kaitlyn Clark, there's
you know, you got South Carolina who's undefeated again. Yeah, players,
you know, the North North Carolina State men and women both in the Final
four in the same year. It doesn't happen very often. I think it's
maybe second or third time. Well yeah, what Yukon did it a few
times to wellni, Yeah, because went back when Yukon women were going to
the final every year they've been to like twenty four, twenty Yeah, you
know, so so anytime Yukon men made the final four, they kind of
and another topic, maybe do you think Boswell will stay? Will he go?
Do you care if he stays or goes? I think people care,
you know, in terms of they want to know what's going to happen.
I don't think people will be heartbroken if he leaves, and they won't be
pissed off. Last year at this time last year, not this time,
but March early March, mid March Twitter when the first round loss, people
want he well and Boswell's ta because memory he was huge in that game.
He just didn't play enough in that game. A year later, Yeah,
here we are, here, we are take off, get out man.
Fans are fleeting. Man, dude, Man again, what have you done
for me lately? Man? Win for me now and I'm happy. But
you don't win for me later, I'm not happy. There was a story
in Athletics you probably have it. I don't have subscription anymore, by Dana
O'Neill, and she's obviously a very good writer and very insightful. She did
a story how game wagering, in game ragering, in game wagderm dude has
what it's meant to the bench warmers? The bench? Oh yes, I
saw that. Did you read it? Yes? What did it say?
They couldn't get to it that these kids at the end of the bench are
being abused what like on social because because somebody keeping lead, somebody needs the
over or they need to keep a lead, and they put these guys in
and they miss it. You know, they take their shots, they play
their game and then you know, they miss a free throw and they cast
somebody and they're getting abused on social media over that. Yes, I did
read that. Yeah, so I didn't know what it was. That's what
it was about. But it makes atal sense because you go to games and
I go to games, and you see these guys and buyers cheering or not
cheering because of that. Right. Yeah. No. Look, one of
the funny things that if you ever if you've ever been there for that,
and this was in Vegas before all the social media, I mean all the
online gambling began and backed off tournament in Vegas. You if a game was
on a points spread or on an over under, there was audible evidence of
that. You heard fans screaming and yelling on every basket. A game might
have been completely out of hand. The one I remember the most was,
or it was I think it was a championship game that Oregon was in,
and there's two free throws at the end of the game, and he needed
to make the second one to you know, to cover the spread, and
he missed and there was an audible, i mean really loud of all the
people who lost the bet because he missed his free throw at the end of
the game. The game was over. The game, didn't you know?
The free throws didn't matter to the game, but they mattered to all these
people who put money on the game that goes on now at all the arenas.
That happened in Michale, So you didn't play the Tommy Lloyd and the
clubs and coach questions from from the AP writer about the rule prop thing.
If Tommy just said, I'll think about it, but the other coach said,
yeah, it needs to stop. To stop. It does because because
it started like in the n the NBA right the week before he's it's just
done that. And that's where that's where there aren't enough safeguards in place to
keep stuff from happening before it happens, right, you know, And and
little bits of things if you do, if you have prop bets on individual
college players, you know, that is that's easy targets for you know,
kind of unscrupulous people out there. I'm I'm in total agreement with not allowing
Now they don't allow them in Arizona, so we don't even have the option.
But I'm in total agreement that those should be banned across the board.
And for those you who don't know what we're talking about. Prop bet is
when you're betting on a certain player to do what to do a certain thing,
and over under three point shots, over undrawn points, over undrawn rebounds,
uh whatever. When you're because that, you know somebody can just say
here, you know, here's here's ten grand just make sure you don't hit
three three pointers tonight. How easy is it for a player to do that.
Let's take this goal. Hi, you're on the air and line on
the ball. Yeah, this is Robert. I got to tell in.
I don't know if you're talking about Boswo happy or I hope the guy leaves.
I don't know. Can you guys explain what Tommy Lloyd's devotion to this
kid was, even when he stunk the last eight or ten games of the
season. You have Bradley and kJ Lewis on the bench, and he just
kept in serving Bosro And just one more comment, when we tied the game
at fifty six against Clemson for some dumb reason, Voyd and serted Boswell back
in the game things, we just lost our mojo at that time, and
the kid does I don't think the kid cares. He's he disn't know of
Kurk cries if he asked me. Yeah, well, I think the reason
for Tommy doing he's a loyal dude. He's a loyal dude, and had
he not continued his loyalty to him, Boswell would have faded away. And
not that he did anyway, but he was faded away anyway. No,
no, I know that, but you don't know that's going to happen,
and it did happen, but his confidence would have been totally gone. And
he's a good kid, except that when he faded away doesn't make I'm not
saying he's not a good kid. Because one of the guys on the other
station kept saying was potential is potential? Well, you have to have results
if you had potential. I mean I had potential as a baseball player,
but I mean I wasn't good enough to play pro, but I had potential.
Well they say that, you know what they say about potential, you
haven't realized it yet. And then he's exactly right. I kind of hope
he leaves because I'd like to see Lewis and Bradley in the backcourt starting next
year or whoever. You know, Hopefully they'll both return, and I think
the two guys that transferred, I think what was the guy's name with him?
Yeah, no, I thought I thought he could play. And I
was a Philly fan too, So you know he'll find players and the guys
coming in are going to be very good. I just don't trust freshman.
Yeah, nobody does an when they're playing again. But I mean the way
everybody was bricking the three point shots against Clemson that Uscus probably could have hit
two or three and maybe got us in the game or kept us in the
game. And you know, Tommy Lloyd, to me, he chose just
like just like Sean Miller in the tournament. He's and and I pray to
god one of these days he figure out out how to beat up uh his
own defense. Well, how long have you been in wait? Wait wait,
how long have you been an Arizona fan? And out of ten,
what would you rate you as a fan? Oh? Out of ten?
Yeah, I'm a diehard basketball fan. I'm a ten out of ten basketball
fan. I mean I've been a fan. We used to I remember we
used to walk into Micheale Center when who was a coach? Ben Vindsay was
a coach. Oh God, we walk We used to walk in at halftime
at the games because there was like a thousand people in the you know,
the arena there. So when Luke came, I've always been a fan and
I just you know, it hurt to me. I hurt when they lose.
You must win, and you must hurt, get frustrated at the coaching
not you know, not making adjustments. Well, I hope your heart continues
to be an Arizona fan because it must hurt. We all heard like that.
I mean you guys, you guys, including you J because you've been
here forever. God, the torture you guys have been through. Yeah,
my torture has always been about football. I look, I love basketball,
and I'm upset when they blow out, you know, in a in an
NCAA tournament. I was happy to have been at the at the championship in
ninety seven. But it doesn't it doesn't stick with me the way football does.
It does well, even then, it's been a tough road a down.
Football has been the worst. Yeah, especially with the promise because what
was it ninety four ish, ninety ninety three ish on the cover SI,
Yeah, ninety four ninety four, So you on the cover after a great
year right now, and then that happens. Yeah, I mean, come
on, and then the same thing in ninety eight, talk about expectations,
and then the same thing in ninety eighth. Ninety eight was almost worse because
that team had gone twelve and one because of stupid fumble in the Miami u
c l A game, they don't get to the Rose Bowl, and that,
you know, everybody was back, we thought, and then they got
blitzed at Penn State and that wrecked their season. In that particular year,
I was so wearing a two sound electric and we were we were a big
sponsor, so I got to go on the sponsor two pence road trip no
to the Oregon State game. Towards the end of the year. I had
to go to Oregon State and and I had sideline passes and nobody cared and
they lost and they lost to Oregon State, and I had to sit there
and listen to Oregon State fans. They were yelling at me, and I'm
like, I'm not even I'm not even part of the team, you know,
and they're yelling at me. And I had to sit through that.
You must have been wearing a red jersey, you know, I was on
the ears on the sideline, so they ye know, I had to be
in Arizona. You know, somebody with Arizona. My wife and I are
on the sideline. Then they're yelling at us. It doesn't happen here.
These people are nice people. I couldn't. I could have gotten in a
fight that night. I could have. I couldn't. There was no fans
never le remember that game. It was that game. It was foggy.
Remember that fog came over that That could have been everything I know, But
and it was like and the and they lost, and they ended up going
six and six that year, and it was like yeah worse, Yeah,
yeah, you know, And I don't know the history of football like it
is. You know, Basketball expectations are what they are, and they never
live up to them. In football a time or two. That happens too,
yeah, you know. But you know, fans suffered. You know,
the Purdue fans have been suffering since nineteen eighty to get to a Final
four, right, and they've had chances. I mean, they were one
of the regionals that I worked you know, worked at up in uh up
in Phoenix. One year Matt Painter busted a busted a clipboard overs over his
leg and the you know ud I mean, you know some you know we've
seen those things, so you know, I mean there's Ata fans that suffered,
but there are other fans that suffered as well. Duke fans are suffering
right now. North Carolina fans are suffering right now. Houston fans are suffering
right now, you know because you know why because you think about the most
recent thing. Right Houston fan isn't sitting there saying, well, we've been
there in X amount of years. They're suffering because they had a great team
this year, sure all year long. Yeah, or ranked number one a
lot a good part of the year, and they couldn't get out of the
Sweet sixteen. So so Chris has been in here a couple of times.
Obviously he wants since twenty dollars because he had un and I said, they're
not gonna win because it's two to one again, And I thought the criplin
I would have been Houston for me. I thought Houston would be able to
muscle them and get them out of the rhythm. Yet, well, I'm
gonna get him twenty bucks because to be that were that team you've saw him
play. Yeah, there were a bunch of piranhas. They were until they
were until they weren't until that one. Well, and you know, you
don't know if that beating they took against Iowa State, you know, created
a little bit of a hangover for them or some vulnerability, doubt in their
in their minds that when you know things weren't going well. Uh you know
in the in the Sweet sixteen that you know that they you know they got
beat but you know, you just don't know who goes through these guys' minds.
And again, when you when you're dealing with these you know, young
guys, you know, you never know what's affecting them. You know,
did you know, did did you know Caleb Love have a bad night with
his girlfriend the day you know, the day before the game with you know,
with Clemson. I mean, you just you just don't know what's you
know, within these guys brains. And you know, during all these times,
and it's tough, and you know, the Arizona fans who bleed for
this stuff. Look, there's not one Arizona fan who felt as bad as
any of the players of it. Sure, of course, that's one of
the things that I think I think people lose sight of is that, you
know? They they said, well he didn't care, Yes he did,
Yeah, yes he did. Of course you do. Of course you do.
Except that except Deandrey and True and Trier and that was just bad.
That was and you kind of maybe if you would have been smart, you
said this could happen, it would reverted to the first games of the year.
Remember went to the Bahamas. Obamas lost three in a row and I
lost. I lost three bets on that team right out of the box.
Yeah, well, because because you honestly thought that this was going to be
a huge Yeah, I was in Vegas huge and and and then the funny
thing is they lose the first one, they're not going to lose again,
and the second they're definitely not losing again. I recall, I recall I
put more money on the third game. Cha, let's take this call.
You're on the aar and on the ball. Hey, No, I was
just trying to help with easing our pain and just get us to the five
stages of Greece and get to the acceptance level. I'm die hard and life
long, but and the easiest comparison for me are the Dallas Cowboys so good
in the nineties, but just a lot of talk ever since then, nothing
since two thousand. So just once we get to that level as the city
and community will be fine, you know, pay the players, let them
be in commercials in Saita and stuff, and then whatever happens happened. But
that's my advice. Who called yesterday done? And what was he saying?
That'll be fine? Thank you for the thank you for the confirmation. Yeah,
we sink to like to stop calling our blue buds or like you know
we have I have the Cowboys and you know champions. Well, let me
tell you something. For the first time it well in a long time,
Jay has taken my advice. He's not calling him a blue blood anymore.
He's sat back and realized he was wrong. They still can be, but
they aren't now. And kind of like bridging back on sports betting and stuff,
you know, I learned this during the PAC twelve tournament two years ago
and stuff before online betting. You bet against them, you know, and
that's finding your conscience. Bet against them for the other team that went to
the amount that you're comfortable losing, so that when they lose you get some
money. You at least get a coffee or a dinner or something stuff.
So I bet against them, you know, several times this year, and
especially the last game. I don't think I was the one who cursed them,
but I ended up getting a nice you know prize out of what I
thought was going to happen anyway, Reverse psychology. Yeah, yeah, well
thanks for the call. Take care. Yeah, I mean, you know,
people do that, right, I'm gonna feel good one way or the
other. Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna bet on him if I if I
win, and if I'm gonna bet against him if I lose. You there
you go, all right, Well that was fun. It's been fun.
So one more day. We're off Friday, so we'll be back tomorrow.
We'll really try and preview up the Final Four. But Steve and I are
gonna be I'm working for the Final Four group. Steve's covering the games.
He'll be writing for All Sports Tucson, so you can check that stuff out.
We'll try and get you a couple of great guests who can give us
some insight into uh into this thing tomorrow and then we then we're off to
Phoenix and we'll be back here. On Tuesday. So you know, follow
us on the podcast, give us a listen and we'll uh and we'll go
on. You're about to tell you some breaking news. Will we have put
it for seconds? So, Paulovoiven, we treated in Norlander. You kind
does not have a play until fight at Arizona at this moment. This is
within the hour. Dan Hurley tells the CBS they're supposed to be here,
well back in there. Oh my god, so that'll be a storyline.
Yeah, Oh my gods, that's a little whack. That's a little whack.
Do you think up there? Man? Yes, it's hard living up
in that part of the country all year round. Or's something it's gonna be
like eighty degrees. It's be beautiful here. All right, Thanks for being
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