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Streamy Live. I mean I heard
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the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacob
Salez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey,

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welcome back toying the ball, you
know, Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.

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I'm Steve, He's Jay because I'm
hoping Joe Jay did his homework. This

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is I on the Ball, breaking
news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Not

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a lot of homework, but some
homework. You took one of my breaking

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news items with Troy Hutchison on the
on the phone. But you know the

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news about Mason Bray, Heath Bray's
son, quarterback Scottsdale Sware High School won

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a state championship six a state championship
there last year, has earned a has

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gotten an offer to be at Arizona, to play at Arizona. His fake

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Facebook post Facebook Twitter post was great. He had put a picture of his

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dad up there in his uniform number
fourteen. What a story that would be

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if okay, and you know,
and you know, I think he's coming

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because his mom you know who she
is, right, you know the relationship

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Coach Smith's daughter, Larry Smith's daughter, Heath Bread's wife. Oh, I

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didn't have that ex wife the father
of well, so yeah, she posted

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something, you know, so I
looked, He's like he's coming, He's

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gonna come. Wow. So yeah, she's very grateful for this. And

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so it's yeah, coach Smith's grandson. Nice the late greats and you have

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to wear a number fourteen. Such
a big story, right, such a

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big it is. It is a
big, a good story. It's just

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one of those touching things on the
football that you know, Yeah, that

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a program loves to have. I'm
not that they under the circum under the

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circumstances that you know, it just
would make all kinds of sense if if

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if the son would come, become
to Arizona and continue his dad's legacy or

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or add to his legacy. So
that would be that would be great.

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So so there's that. So,
uh, speaking a little bit of Final

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four to you. So this came
across a little bit ago. The average

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ticket price for a women's Final four
Friday session, which is the two games,

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okay, four fifty. Oh you're
low, really you're low. What

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is the starting ticket price? I
should say? What is seven dollars for

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one? For one? Yeah,
Cleveland, what's the switch? The last

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year's the average was four seventy nine. What's the what's the size of the

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building. I wanted? It's it's
a regular Arena's Cleveland where it must be?

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Where the Cavaliers because because uh,
because I have two for for Monday.

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You have a couple of tickets on
Somebody says, can you see if

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you have friends that want to buy? Yeah, yeah, they're not mine.

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Yeah, not mind someone they want
me to see if I help some

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people. Pretty cool, very cool. Yeah, So Women's Final four tickets

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going going crazy again, you know, keeping the the the narrative that it's

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women's women's basketball isn't. No,
but it's different in fact, in fact,

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the guys from last sight, I
guess a bunch of grump people then

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say the game has changed. It's
no longer slow. No, it's not.

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It's it's a different game. I
mean they play, they play.

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I mean they're good basketball players.
Yeah, they're really good basketball And not

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to say the other ones weren't till
the previous ones weren't. This year,

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it's just different. There, there's
more of it, all right, Okay,

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since you're since you're out of it. Latest odds for the men's Final

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four, mm hmm. You can
two to one minus one ninety five one

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and half Perdue. It's two to
one two five, yeah, plus two

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five. Then North Carolina State and
Alabama both at plus sixteen hundred. Yeah,

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long odds for uh sure the other
two you never know though. Final

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fourth kind of strange. If the
battle gets hot, they start shooting the

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lights out against Purdue, don't and
don't have to worry about it. I

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wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I
wouldn't be surprised. And and I guess

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if there's a team, I mean
North Calina State is playing Purdue. I

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guess if there's a team physical enough
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North Carolina State. You know the
maybe maybe you know Edie gets neutralized a

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little bit with the big guy that
North Carolina State has inside. But those

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are those are the odds. So
if would you put it on Yukon if

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you had to put something down,
Yeah, but that's number now Yeah,

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well no, not at that number, but I mean if you had,

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if I had to, yeah,
yeah, but you could have got him

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at four or five six earlier.
Yeah. So your Buffalo Bills are trading

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away the all the pieces to the
team that should have won a Super Bowl

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sometime in the last three or four
years. Stefan Diggs got traded this morning

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to Houston for a second round draft
pick and a couple of other things thrown

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in a bag of balls and stuff
like that thrown in there. But Digs

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going to Houston to play with CJ. Stroud, which should be interesting,

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right, Yeah, no, it
should be Buffalo takes another hit. Yeah,

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the talented team that loses some talent. Today was one of those you

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saw one of those uh means you're
seeing that picture where where Will Smith is

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standing in the empty living room?
They always posted when you know, where

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did everybody go? And they had
the same living room, but it was

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Josh Allen sitting on the floor.
It's like Josh Allen, I remember that.

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No furniture, no furniture, no
nothing. Josh Allen in the in

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the in the Bill's locker room.
This is funny. Okay, this is

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funny. So we know those games
all in the Northeast. Rain delays a

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lot of rain outs every day.
The Reds and the Phillies are are waiting

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out of rain delay and they're gonna
wait waited out as long as they possibly

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can because they can't play the game
tomorrow at the Philly Stadium at Citizens Bank

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Park because there's a wedding schedules.
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they scheduled a wedding in the middle
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of baseball season at the at the
Phillies Ballpark and uh and uh imagine the

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people throwing stuff at that. Yeah, so the people upset about that.

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News about our friend Evan Mayakawa.
Evan who's been on our show a few

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times. He developed this analytics uh
program or whatever you would call it.

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That a lot of people use.
We you know, we refer to it

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all the time, basketball stuff,
a lot of media us and stuff like

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that. He's had a job uh
uh I don't know where where was it

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working. He was at a number
of tech like a he was like an

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engineer. Anyways, he's this this
thing has turned into a business venture for

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him, so he's leaving it to
to do this uh this work full time

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with his college basketball analytics. If
you've never looked him up his uh his

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Twitter feed is at Evan MYA E
v A N M I y A.

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You can look him up there.
His website is the same thing Evan dot

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com. You can see some stuff, but most of it is subscription,

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but it's a lot of good information. I've yet to subscribed to him because

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what we've needed we've been able to
get for free. But he's been on

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the show a few times, so
very interesting stuff that the guy who really

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built his own company, you know, from just being a smart dude.

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Yeah, no, no, and
he's got something. I mean, he's

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got something. And then the geekshell
inherit the earth and he's he's one of

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them. Yeah, because he's got
something. He's like the what do you

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call it, the bracketology guy.
Yeah, you know when you come up

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with some kind of fun and people
are starting to quote him and to analytic

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him and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, But I'm just I'm trying

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to look at this because I didn't. I can't, I haven't just this

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just came up from the Arizon,
the Daily Star, but it says that

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Roman Bravo Young will be wrestling for
will be representing Mexico and the US.

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Oh really just the or just Mexico. I think just Mexico. Okay,

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I could be wrong. Okay,
So anyway, but he so he's been

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wrestling for Mexico in the Olympics,
which is which is very cool. So

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I guess I would imagine that if
if if I dreamy human doesn't make the

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US team, that you would have
the shot, because isn't it if your

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grandparents are from another country, you
can represent that country, right? Yeah?

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Which is how freaking Josh Green got
up in this in the Ring of

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Honor, you know, you and
another well guess what, And there's some

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people that don't like this too,
but Caleb Love is going to be up

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there too, because Packed twelve census
all American. I packed up players,

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but you're just an all American.
The wouldn't a prominent one. And then

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Packed twelve. How do you?
How do you, mister grumpy, how

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do you feel? You know,
I wouldn't mind if they put a a

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requirement that they have to play two
years here before you can get in the

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Ring of Honor. Yeah, that's
that's the The barn is already you'd have

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to go back the barn already,
go back and review that. But the

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barn doors again because guys like you
know, Zeke Nod, Josh Green,

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even DeAndre Aight, you know those
guys don't be long The Ring of Honors,

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you don't even know them, made
an impact, right, you know,

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on a program for a period of
time, not six months. Yeah,

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in recent and recent to Twitter that
I saw that Damon was trying to

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advocate for. Maybe it was a
recent one, a little we TJ McConnell.

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Eventually, TJ McConnell will be in
because he's got to get ten years

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in the NBA. Yeah. And
if there's a guy that did over these

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old guys right right, you know
for the I mean, he only played

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two years here because of you know, the traffers. But if there's a

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guy who had an impact because not
only was he a great player, he

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was he was a dude and he
was a guy that that that might be

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a little biased of you and me, but he was. He was talking

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about being a dude and accessible and
good. Not just accessible. I'm talking

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about you could tell that even though
he didn't start his career here, it

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meant something for him to wear the
Arizona uniform and that team would not have

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been that team that it was.
You know, go to go to DeAndre

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Ayden's closet, Go to Zeke Nadger's
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And are you gonna find an Arizona
jersey? Probably not, probably not,

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But if you go to if you
go to T. J. McConnell's,

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you probably will. Yeah, Well, you get an isolation talked about.

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He got an insulation when he was
here for the the meth room. And

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that's what I'm talking about, is
that to be up there, the school

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needs to have meant something to you. And and there's there's a few people

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up there who you know, it
meant nothing to that. It meant an

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opportunity to play for six months.
Buckle up, it's gonna continue to know,

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Well, yeah, because of what
we're in the sufficial where now where

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guys are gonna come and go,
you know, for a year. But

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you know, Caleb look, I
like Caleb Love. I I respect him

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for how he came here and handled
his stuff at Arizona. We all had

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doubts about that, right. But
do I think Caleb Love is going to

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go home and bleed red and blew
the rest of his life? I don't.

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I don't believe he will. Well, he think finally of Arizona.

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Sure, you think think finally of
North Carolina too, And he probably would

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have thought finally of Michigan if you're
gone. Well, here's what I don't

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think Arizona is in his blood.
No, And here's the issue with North

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Carolina who somebody yesteh. I was
with the guy who who was sitting in

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the Arizona area last Thursday and next
to some North Carolina fans, and he

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told me that the North Carolina fans
reached over and said, I'm glad you

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have him this year. Yeah,
and of course, of course was his

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wordness. And during the interviews of
the day before, he said he left

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because there was a lot of negative
publicity because of how he played and who

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he was. And guess what a
year later kind of getting the same stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, So you know, Uh, I don't know.

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This is interesting. So an anonymous
poll of ninety five Double A tournament players,

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uh, only two said that Kim
Mulkie is a coach that they would

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want to play for. I don't
disagree with him. Down Staley at South

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Carolina, you know, with the
landslide winner in in that In that the

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only only two of the coaches got
more than five votes, and they were

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Gino Ariema at Connecticut and then Kentucky's
Kenny Brooks. And then when they voted

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for who they would least like to
play for, because when they vote for

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who they would most like to play
for, she only got two votes.

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Then when they said who would you
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was voted the most one that they
would least like to play for. Don't

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not a shock. I haven't read
the story, though you'll see you want

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you read the story, you'll understand
why. You understand why I think today's

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kids, today's kids aren't that now. Bobby Knight, his eric came and

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left Molki's time as a coach,
and she's a brilliant coach. Obviously,

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you don't win by accident. Uh, it's just that style doesn't work anymore,

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even though they won a title last
year. Let mean yeah, playing

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under fear is a tough thing.
And in my story with uh with Tommy

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for you guys two sons, just
a few months ago, I don't know

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if I remember saying this, writing
this. He was the perfect dude after

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Sean, perfect dude. Yeah,
because Sean was his way right right,

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and Tommy let them loose, Yeah
yeah, yeah exactly, he did cut

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you know, yeah, hell,
let them relax, is what he did,

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and that's they've been able to do
what they've been able to do.

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Absolutely. All right, should we
take our break down? Yeah, all

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right, we're gonna have uh a
Ken Hockey the Pema baseball coach just got

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his two hundred win over at Pima. Not Jason Hawk. No, I

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got I got this down. I
got this down. Well, we will

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have him on the phone. We'll
talk a little bit about what's been going

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It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salvias.
This is I on the Park on Fox

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Sports fourteenth fifty Hey Welcome back to
Eye on the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen

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fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now on the phone, we have

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Ken howckemy beat Pima Pastics baseball coach, the surging pastics coach. How are

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you right right? You appreciate you
guys having me on because you should.

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You're you're killing it a lot of
a lot of wins lately. What's going

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on. We're just trying to play
the best baseball we can at the right

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time. So our guys are doing
a good job and we're just kind of

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collect as many wins as we can
and trying to get the postseason plays.

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So from from year to your coach, do you are your teams different?

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A vastly different, A little different? How different do they get, you

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know, from year to year?
Yeah, I think I think every year

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there's a little different. Uh,
you know, you have a little bit

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different teams. Sometimes they can really
pitch, sometimes they can really pitch.

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Sometimes they're big and strong, sometimes
they can really run. I mean,

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so every year we have a different
group and we're just trying to put them

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all on the field and see what
the best way is for us to win

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games. So in that regard.
I was gonna say, in that regard,

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how is this year's team different from
last year? Uh? You know,

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last year we're really left handed on
the mound. This year we're not.

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This year we're primarily right handed.
Uh. Our pitchers have done a

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great job. I mean, we're
really deep on the mounds. I really

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like our our guys on the mound. Offensively, we're uh, you know,

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we're good, We're not great,
So we have to do things the

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right way. We got to be
able to move runners or runners when we

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get opportunities, play short game when
we need to, so, you know,

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we got to manufacture run and if
we can do that, our our

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pitching staff has done a great job
of keeping the other team from scoring.

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So, uh, that's kind of
what what our team looks like this year.

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Kind of sounds you're scouting right now
or something at a baseball game or

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something. But they've won ten.
Yeah, I am, I'm watching.

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I'm watching some some guys that we
signed for next year. I'm watching Cdeo

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and Catalina Foothills play right now.
So yeah, you know, it's it's

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that's part of the job. If
you're not out recruiting and looking for players

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and trying to find players. You're
falling behind, right, So that's kind

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of where we're at right now.
Let me tell the stats. So you've

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won ten out of twelve recently,
you're thirty two and ten and you've won

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thirty or more games five straight years. Wow, it's been fun. It's

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been a good it's been it's been
a good, good ride so far.

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And you know the thing about it
is, we feel like we've built something

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here where people are interested in coming
to PEMA and play. So you know,

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when that happens, you feel good
about where you're at and it's much

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easier to recruit players because there's a
little bit of a tradition there. So

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that's kind of where we're at.
So it was duly noted. I think

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it was last week that you won
your two hundredth game at Pima. How

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meaningful was that to you? You
know, it's just a number, it

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really is. I mean, obviously
it didn't mean something, but you know,

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that's uh, we got to talk
about all the people that were involved,

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all the players that gave us a
chance, and all the coaches that

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helped us win those games. It
certainly wasn't me, right and I'll never

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take full credit for that. You
know, I'm the one that gets to

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win by his name. But at
the end of the day, there's so

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many people that were involved in helping
us win those games, and I'm certainly

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thankful for each and every one of
them. Yeah, no, shot.

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So let me ask you a question
because I'm looking at your record. You

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guys are nineteen and three at home, nine and seven on the road.

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Is there a home field advantage in
JC Baseball? Really or not? You

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know, I don't know if there
is, but there is. I mean

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there's just something about being at home, something about you know, waking up

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in your own bed, coming to
the park, doing things on your schedule,

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not having to get on a bus, you know, things like that.

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So I mean, as much as
you don't think that there's a big

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advantage of playing at home, I
think there really is. You know,

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guys are just more comfortable, have
you. I know you your team is

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different this year, But have you
changed as a coach? Have they made

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you change as a coach? You
know, if you if you don't change

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as a coach every year, then
then you're going to struggle. I mean,

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part of coaching is adapting to to
what you have, the type of

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players you have, and you know, you've got to continue to learn and

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get better and change things for the
better. So I mean, yeah,

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there's been some changes, and I'm
certainly not the same coach I was,

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you know, twenty five years ago, and so you know, it's just

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times change and coaches change and kids
change, and so you got to you

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got to, you know, work
with that and develop kids in different ways.

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But at the end of the day, I mean the goal is still

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the same, win as many games
as possible, develop kids and move them

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on to the next. But well, we'll going to that a little bit,

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because you know, you know,
every sport is being affected by things

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going on at the at the Division
one level or the you know college level

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that you know, transfer players moving
on. How have the players the types

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of players that you're getting now,
has that been impacted and has that changed

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with the things that are going on
at the higher level you know a little

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bit, a little bit. I
mean, it's it's kind of a crazy

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world with Division one transfer portal and
the n I L and just things like

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that. Kids get wrapped up and
into wanting to go Division one. I

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mean, obviously that's the that's the
majority of kids that play sports as their

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goal is to play at a Division
one school. And so when they get

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that opportunity, lots of them jump
on it and and they go out and

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and they get to the school and
then they have to sit and watch and

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then and then the game isn't as
fun as it used to be. So

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I get some of those kids who
have come back. I mean, I've

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got a couple of kids, you
know, so we're at New Mexico last

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year. I got to hit some
long beach stay the kids from Illinois.

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I mean, I've got some kids
that went out and tried it and uh

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decided it wasn't the best thing for
them, and and they wanted to get

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on the field. So they're back
here and helping us win games. Do

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they come back with a different approach
maybe than they might have had if they

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had just come straight there. I
think I think a lot of them do,

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yeah, because they understand what it
takes to play at that level and

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they all want to get back to
it. So they just want to,

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uh, they want to work,
They want to work hard, they want

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to work on some of the deficiencies
that they had that kept them from playing

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at that next level. And uh, you know, so they get to

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the US and they go to work
and they want to they want to get

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better so they can move back to
the schools that they either were at or

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different sits. I know this is
a bad word to use, and I

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want to say it not knowing nothing, not meaning it this way. So

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there's been a lot of success at
PEM up soccer, men's and women's basketball,

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men's and women's or other sports as
well. Is there pressure to succeed?

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And I don't even mean pressure the
other word is mean or to sustain

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that success. I wouldn't say there's
pressure. I mean, you know,

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I mean obviously there's you know,
with with all the great programs that we

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have at PEMA, I mean there's
there's a mindset that we all have that

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we all want to be good and
we understand that. H there's a lot

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of sports that do a good job
and win championships, so we all want

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to be a part of it.
So I think it's, uh, you

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know, it's one of those things. As a coach, you want to

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make sure that you're doing what you
can do. Beca is doing what she

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can do Todd and Bryan and so
everybody. Everybody wants to be good and

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because the other sports are good,
and so I don't think there's any pressure.

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There's just a lot to be good. And that's why are our athletic

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program is great. You know.
We have a lot of good coaches there

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that all have the same goal and
uh, and we get players and we

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coach them up and we develop him
and we win games and we move him

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on. And so we're all proud
of that. Talking about moving on your

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your the boss is going to be
moving on, So there could be change

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at the top. There could be
well there there's not going to be there,

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so it'll be interested. You know, obviously we're all going to be

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interested in seeing what happens there.
Monico has done a great job and we

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all, uh, we all are
going to miss him and what he's done

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for our programs. And now it's
just going to be uh trying to figure

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out who's next and what we can
do to help support that person. Yeah.

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So, uh, I think a
lot of us have known Jason for

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a long time. Has it been
coaching with him? Is he you know,

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is it been do you guys get
I mean? Is there any brotherly

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things going on? Do you give
each other stuff? I mean, how's

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the relationship on the field with with
with him there? Oh, it's been

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great. I mean, you know, we we spent so many years apart,

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you want our own things, and
me coaching in the state and playing

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pro ball, our families living away
from Tucson, and now to be home

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and be here together and be able
to see him every day, it's been

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awesome. And uh, I certainly
appreciate every minute I have to spend with

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him because I've missed so many years. And he's just a great asset to

408
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:38.680
have and make serience and he has
at the highest level can help all of

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00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:44.519
us. So you got about the
first the first week of April. What's

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00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:49.000
left with you guys or for you
guys? Well, we have, uh

411
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:55.079
I think we have. Let's see
fourteen games less I believe, and uh

412
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.680
you know this is the this is
the toughest part of our schedule. So

413
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.839
we've got Eastern Arizona coming on Saturday, and then we played Central Arizona on

414
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Tuesday, both at home. Central's
right number two in the country. They're

415
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:12.039
really really good. They beat us
twice at their place. But like I

416
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.440
told our team, hey, you
guys are the champions. I believe you're

417
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.519
the best team in the conference.
You just have to play like the best

418
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.519
team. And if we do that, we'll we'll we'll come out we'll come

419
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.839
out on top. So you know, we we've just got to we've got

420
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:30.279
to buckle down and play our best
baseball here to finish the year. Okay,

421
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.559
well, coach, we really appreciate
your time. Good luck the rest

422
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.000
of the way. A lot of
games have you played. I appreciate it.

423
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.880
Thanks, thanks for having me on, and we're looking forward to finishing

424
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.599
the year. Good luck. Thank
you, coach. Talk to you soon,

425
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.240
all right, all right, have
a goot, good one. Thanks,

426
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:48.720
thank you. It's funny. It's
funny to me. He's not that

427
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.720
old. I mean talked about he's
been doing it for a long time,

428
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.599
twenty five thirty years whatever, is
uh to me. They're fairly young,

429
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.279
younger than yeah, so let's say
say he's fifty, is that yeah,

430
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:03.799
So you know, started when he
was really young coaching. Now. I

431
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.680
love Jason. He played on that
city league baseball team with a couple Rich

432
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.519
knows him. This was actually really
fun. I know, if I've ever

433
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.799
told this. It's actually a really
funny story because since he was a pitcher,

434
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.200
I didn't we could have a designated
hitter, right, And so this

435
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.720
one day, you know, we
had we had a couple of extra guys,

436
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.119
so I'd wanted to play. You
know, I was the one who

437
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:26.039
made the line up. I would
have play as many guys I can't.

438
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.119
So he was gonna pitch, and
then I had a designated hitter for him.

439
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:33.440
And Rich told me, comes up
to me and says, why are

440
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.440
you d you know, why are
you d hing for Jason? I said,

441
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.440
well, he's a pitcher. He
goes, he was a pitcher in

442
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.799
the major leagues. He's hit major
league pitching. He's probably the best hitter

443
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:53.200
on the TV. You're right,
let me change that up. Sure enough,

444
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.359
Jason. But he was a great
hitter. These pictures that he was

445
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.599
seeing and he's playing, he's played. He's like you remember the dog truck.

446
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:06.559
Yeah, he's an a dog and
he'd be able to win the race.

447
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:08.119
Yeah, he was. He was
fun. He was very fun because

448
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:12.440
you know what was great about him
when he played with us was that he

449
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.920
wasn't caught up in who he had
been. He was just starting to playing

450
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.079
baseball with his friends and have some
fun. This. Yeah, he didn't

451
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:23.079
big time anybody. Uh, you
know, he showed up for games if

452
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:26.519
we had him play left field and
play left field or first base or whatever

453
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:32.480
and he pitched. Did he smoke
him? Now? Because you know by

454
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:34.160
that time, he wasn't throwing like
he would throw the major leagues, right

455
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.160
he was, you know, he
just I mean, he was a really

456
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.839
good pitcher, but I'm saying he
didn't just you know, smoke everybody.

457
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:45.680
I mean, same with Joe Estes. Remember he played, he played you

458
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.160
know, hight level. He was
in that league. And I could hit

459
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.319
Joe because he didn't throw hard.
The problem was all let me see this

460
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.279
way. I felt like I could
hit Joe Estes because Joe est just didn't

461
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.440
throw hard. But you know what, he never threw a ball over the

462
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.039
plane. Everything was on a corner
and that and that's what made the difference

463
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:07.559
between you know us who you know
who pitcher just tried to throw it over

464
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.240
the plate and you threw it down
the middle, and a guy like Joe

465
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.319
who would pick a spot throw it
to there. He was you know,

466
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.640
Jason. Both Jason and Joe were
really good pictures in that league. But

467
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:21.200
they didn't blow people away. He
didn't throw so hard he blew people away.

468
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:22.839
Went put it that way. But
he was really he was really good

469
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.680
and he was fun. Like I
said, he was fun to play with.

470
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:30.200
He was he was a crack up. Okay, you let's just take

471
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.799
a break and then come back,
all right, have more people to call

472
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.000
in or whatever. More time.
We'd love to hear from your five two,

473
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zero, four, one, six, seventy before forty. We're running

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out of time to talk about the
Final four coming up where Steve and I

475
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:43.519
are going to be heading Friday,
So would love to hear from yourself.

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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and Jacinzalez on Fox Sports

520
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.960
fourteen to fifteen. Hey, welcome
back to you. I on the Ball

521
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:01.880
here a Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
I'm Steve, He's Jay. We have

522
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:07.599
seventeen minutes. Help us get through
us Collis. You have never called Collis

523
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.280
and let us know how we do
or what we say is full of it.

524
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:14.400
I got come up to me at
Bop Domsay listens to the show.

525
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:19.960
He remembered me from our TEP days. I unfortunately being the brain dead guy

526
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.679
that I am. I couldn't remember
him, but he came up and we

527
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.800
talked a little bit, and then
he said he listens to the show and

528
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:29.280
he loves us to make a comment
about the quality of our sound at some

529
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:31.559
times. And we know that,
we know that, but it was good

530
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:35.400
to you know, somebody out of
the blue come up and say that they

531
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.280
love this. You might explain the
dead air too, because I just got

532
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.480
a text here that day. You
guess it's part of the national Yeah,

533
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:44.000
we can't do much about it.
Yeah, at the beginning of each hour,

534
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.639
it starts like that. But yeah, so very cool. But would

535
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.679
love to hear if you've got some
thoughts on this final four coming up.

536
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.920
Men's are women's right, Yes,
you know we I mean I've been paying

537
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:58.800
attention to the women's as well.
I think you have. And it's it's

538
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.239
those are some compellings. Whereas the
page Backer story, I mean, what

539
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:07.119
you know, the Connecticut player,
you know, suffer from you know,

540
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:12.239
horrific knee injury. She was thought
to be like the generational player coming up,

541
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.400
and then she was Cleitland Clark before
Kitland Clark was exactly she had that

542
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.119
knee injury, but she she didn't
have a knee injury at the time that

543
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.239
Arizona beat them in the final four. Yeah, you know they beat them

544
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.880
with her on that team, playing
playing well, and uh you know that's

545
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:28.280
been you know, the thing that
the Arizona has been able to hang its

546
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.360
hat on. But you know,
there's her, There's Kaitlyn Clark, there's

547
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:35.239
you know, you got South Carolina
who's undefeated again. Yeah, players,

548
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.840
you know, the North North Carolina
State men and women both in the Final

549
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.840
four in the same year. It
doesn't happen very often. I think it's

550
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:44.639
maybe second or third time. Well
yeah, what Yukon did it a few

551
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:50.119
times to wellni, Yeah, because
went back when Yukon women were going to

552
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.960
the final every year they've been to
like twenty four, twenty Yeah, you

553
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.440
know, so so anytime Yukon men
made the final four, they kind of

554
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.079
and another topic, maybe do you
think Boswell will stay? Will he go?

555
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.079
Do you care if he stays or
goes? I think people care,

556
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.800
you know, in terms of they
want to know what's going to happen.

557
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:15.840
I don't think people will be heartbroken
if he leaves, and they won't be

558
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:20.559
pissed off. Last year at this
time last year, not this time,

559
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.519
but March early March, mid March
Twitter when the first round loss, people

560
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:29.719
want he well and Boswell's ta because
memory he was huge in that game.

561
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.199
He just didn't play enough in that
game. A year later, Yeah,

562
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.320
here we are, here, we
are take off, get out man.

563
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.280
Fans are fleeting. Man, dude, Man again, what have you done

564
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:44.079
for me lately? Man? Win
for me now and I'm happy. But

565
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:46.280
you don't win for me later,
I'm not happy. There was a story

566
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:50.639
in Athletics you probably have it.
I don't have subscription anymore, by Dana

567
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.079
O'Neill, and she's obviously a very
good writer and very insightful. She did

568
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:59.280
a story how game wagering, in
game ragering, in game wagderm dude has

569
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:04.039
what it's meant to the bench warmers? The bench? Oh yes, I

570
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.440
saw that. Did you read it? Yes? What did it say?

571
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.400
They couldn't get to it that these
kids at the end of the bench are

572
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:15.880
being abused what like on social because
because somebody keeping lead, somebody needs the

573
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.719
over or they need to keep a
lead, and they put these guys in

574
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:21.079
and they miss it. You know, they take their shots, they play

575
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.679
their game and then you know,
they miss a free throw and they cast

576
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.119
somebody and they're getting abused on social
media over that. Yes, I did

577
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.280
read that. Yeah, so I
didn't know what it was. That's what

578
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.119
it was about. But it makes
atal sense because you go to games and

579
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:36.559
I go to games, and you
see these guys and buyers cheering or not

580
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.960
cheering because of that. Right.
Yeah. No. Look, one of

581
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.920
the funny things that if you ever
if you've ever been there for that,

582
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.559
and this was in Vegas before all
the social media, I mean all the

583
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:55.559
online gambling began and backed off tournament
in Vegas. You if a game was

584
00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:01.519
on a points spread or on an
over under, there was audible evidence of

585
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:07.280
that. You heard fans screaming and
yelling on every basket. A game might

586
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.119
have been completely out of hand.
The one I remember the most was,

587
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:16.239
or it was I think it was
a championship game that Oregon was in,

588
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:22.079
and there's two free throws at the
end of the game, and he needed

589
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.400
to make the second one to you
know, to cover the spread, and

590
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:32.800
he missed and there was an audible, i mean really loud of all the

591
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.159
people who lost the bet because he
missed his free throw at the end of

592
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.440
the game. The game was over. The game, didn't you know?

593
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:44.440
The free throws didn't matter to the
game, but they mattered to all these

594
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.400
people who put money on the game
that goes on now at all the arenas.

595
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:53.400
That happened in Michale, So you
didn't play the Tommy Lloyd and the

596
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:59.960
clubs and coach questions from from the
AP writer about the rule prop thing.

597
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.320
If Tommy just said, I'll think
about it, but the other coach said,

598
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:07.079
yeah, it needs to stop.
To stop. It does because because

599
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.440
it started like in the n the
NBA right the week before he's it's just

600
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:16.159
done that. And that's where that's
where there aren't enough safeguards in place to

601
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:21.679
keep stuff from happening before it happens, right, you know, And and

602
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.840
little bits of things if you do, if you have prop bets on individual

603
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:31.039
college players, you know, that
is that's easy targets for you know,

604
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:37.159
kind of unscrupulous people out there.
I'm I'm in total agreement with not allowing

605
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.039
Now they don't allow them in Arizona, so we don't even have the option.

606
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:44.559
But I'm in total agreement that those
should be banned across the board.

607
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:46.480
And for those you who don't know
what we're talking about. Prop bet is

608
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:51.719
when you're betting on a certain player
to do what to do a certain thing,

609
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.199
and over under three point shots,
over undrawn points, over undrawn rebounds,

610
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.519
uh whatever. When you're because that, you know somebody can just say

611
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:05.840
here, you know, here's here's
ten grand just make sure you don't hit

612
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.679
three three pointers tonight. How easy
is it for a player to do that.

613
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:13.119
Let's take this goal. Hi,
you're on the air and line on

614
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.480
the ball. Yeah, this is
Robert. I got to tell in.

615
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:21.280
I don't know if you're talking about
Boswo happy or I hope the guy leaves.

616
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:24.000
I don't know. Can you guys
explain what Tommy Lloyd's devotion to this

617
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.840
kid was, even when he stunk
the last eight or ten games of the

618
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.039
season. You have Bradley and kJ
Lewis on the bench, and he just

619
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:36.000
kept in serving Bosro And just one
more comment, when we tied the game

620
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.639
at fifty six against Clemson for some
dumb reason, Voyd and serted Boswell back

621
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.800
in the game things, we just
lost our mojo at that time, and

622
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.800
the kid does I don't think the
kid cares. He's he disn't know of

623
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:47.519
Kurk cries if he asked me.
Yeah, well, I think the reason

624
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:52.039
for Tommy doing he's a loyal dude. He's a loyal dude, and had

625
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.920
he not continued his loyalty to him, Boswell would have faded away. And

626
00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.039
not that he did anyway, but
he was faded away anyway. No,

627
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:01.679
no, I know that, but
you don't know that's going to happen,

628
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:06.440
and it did happen, but his
confidence would have been totally gone. And

629
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.039
he's a good kid, except that
when he faded away doesn't make I'm not

630
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.639
saying he's not a good kid.
Because one of the guys on the other

631
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:15.960
station kept saying was potential is potential? Well, you have to have results

632
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.639
if you had potential. I mean
I had potential as a baseball player,

633
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.079
but I mean I wasn't good enough
to play pro, but I had potential.

634
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.920
Well they say that, you know
what they say about potential, you

635
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.039
haven't realized it yet. And then
he's exactly right. I kind of hope

636
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.480
he leaves because I'd like to see
Lewis and Bradley in the backcourt starting next

637
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.000
year or whoever. You know,
Hopefully they'll both return, and I think

638
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.880
the two guys that transferred, I
think what was the guy's name with him?

639
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:45.880
Yeah, no, I thought I
thought he could play. And I

640
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:51.119
was a Philly fan too, So
you know he'll find players and the guys

641
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:52.719
coming in are going to be very
good. I just don't trust freshman.

642
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.760
Yeah, nobody does an when they're
playing again. But I mean the way

643
00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:00.239
everybody was bricking the three point shots
against Clemson that Uscus probably could have hit

644
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.519
two or three and maybe got us
in the game or kept us in the

645
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.599
game. And you know, Tommy
Lloyd, to me, he chose just

646
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.679
like just like Sean Miller in the
tournament. He's and and I pray to

647
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.559
god one of these days he figure
out out how to beat up uh his

648
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:19.079
own defense. Well, how long
have you been in wait? Wait wait,

649
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:21.639
how long have you been an Arizona
fan? And out of ten,

650
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.679
what would you rate you as a
fan? Oh? Out of ten?

651
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:29.760
Yeah, I'm a diehard basketball fan. I'm a ten out of ten basketball

652
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:30.760
fan. I mean I've been a
fan. We used to I remember we

653
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.840
used to walk into Micheale Center when
who was a coach? Ben Vindsay was

654
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.800
a coach. Oh God, we
walk We used to walk in at halftime

655
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:40.960
at the games because there was like
a thousand people in the you know,

656
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.880
the arena there. So when Luke
came, I've always been a fan and

657
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:47.679
I just you know, it hurt
to me. I hurt when they lose.

658
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.840
You must win, and you must
hurt, get frustrated at the coaching

659
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:57.840
not you know, not making adjustments. Well, I hope your heart continues

660
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:05.719
to be an Arizona fan because it
must hurt. We all heard like that.

661
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:07.639
I mean you guys, you guys, including you J because you've been

662
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.000
here forever. God, the torture
you guys have been through. Yeah,

663
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.039
my torture has always been about football. I look, I love basketball,

664
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.000
and I'm upset when they blow out, you know, in a in an

665
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.679
NCAA tournament. I was happy to
have been at the at the championship in

666
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:28.400
ninety seven. But it doesn't it
doesn't stick with me the way football does.

667
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:30.320
It does well, even then,
it's been a tough road a down.

668
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:35.639
Football has been the worst. Yeah, especially with the promise because what

669
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:40.719
was it ninety four ish, ninety
ninety three ish on the cover SI,

670
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:44.400
Yeah, ninety four ninety four,
So you on the cover after a great

671
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.920
year right now, and then that
happens. Yeah, I mean, come

672
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.000
on, and then the same thing
in ninety eight, talk about expectations,

673
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:57.679
and then the same thing in ninety
eighth. Ninety eight was almost worse because

674
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:01.280
that team had gone twelve and one
because of stupid fumble in the Miami u

675
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.159
c l A game, they don't
get to the Rose Bowl, and that,

676
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.400
you know, everybody was back,
we thought, and then they got

677
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.639
blitzed at Penn State and that wrecked
their season. In that particular year,

678
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:15.000
I was so wearing a two sound
electric and we were we were a big

679
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.800
sponsor, so I got to go
on the sponsor two pence road trip no

680
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.480
to the Oregon State game. Towards
the end of the year. I had

681
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.960
to go to Oregon State and and
I had sideline passes and nobody cared and

682
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.239
they lost and they lost to Oregon
State, and I had to sit there

683
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.280
and listen to Oregon State fans.
They were yelling at me, and I'm

684
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.320
like, I'm not even I'm not
even part of the team, you know,

685
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.159
and they're yelling at me. And
I had to sit through that.

686
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:43.280
You must have been wearing a red
jersey, you know, I was on

687
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.480
the ears on the sideline, so
they ye know, I had to be

688
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.400
in Arizona. You know, somebody
with Arizona. My wife and I are

689
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.760
on the sideline. Then they're yelling
at us. It doesn't happen here.

690
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.639
These people are nice people. I
couldn't. I could have gotten in a

691
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.840
fight that night. I could have. I couldn't. There was no fans

692
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:02.400
never le remember that game. It
was that game. It was foggy.

693
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.800
Remember that fog came over that That
could have been everything I know, But

694
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.559
and it was like and the and
they lost, and they ended up going

695
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.039
six and six that year, and
it was like yeah worse, Yeah,

696
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.760
yeah, you know, And I
don't know the history of football like it

697
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:20.920
is. You know, Basketball expectations
are what they are, and they never

698
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.199
live up to them. In football
a time or two. That happens too,

699
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:27.400
yeah, you know. But you
know, fans suffered. You know,

700
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.199
the Purdue fans have been suffering since
nineteen eighty to get to a Final

701
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:34.639
four, right, and they've had
chances. I mean, they were one

702
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.639
of the regionals that I worked you
know, worked at up in uh up

703
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:43.800
in Phoenix. One year Matt Painter
busted a busted a clipboard overs over his

704
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:45.840
leg and the you know ud I
mean, you know some you know we've

705
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.639
seen those things, so you know, I mean there's Ata fans that suffered,

706
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.760
but there are other fans that suffered
as well. Duke fans are suffering

707
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:57.440
right now. North Carolina fans are
suffering right now. Houston fans are suffering

708
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.559
right now, you know because you
know why because you think about the most

709
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:04.840
recent thing. Right Houston fan isn't
sitting there saying, well, we've been

710
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.920
there in X amount of years.
They're suffering because they had a great team

711
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.800
this year, sure all year long. Yeah, or ranked number one a

712
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.800
lot a good part of the year, and they couldn't get out of the

713
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:16.440
Sweet sixteen. So so Chris has
been in here a couple of times.

714
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:20.840
Obviously he wants since twenty dollars because
he had un and I said, they're

715
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.039
not gonna win because it's two to
one again, And I thought the criplin

716
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.559
I would have been Houston for me. I thought Houston would be able to

717
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.960
muscle them and get them out of
the rhythm. Yet, well, I'm

718
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.840
gonna get him twenty bucks because to
be that were that team you've saw him

719
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:36.760
play. Yeah, there were a
bunch of piranhas. They were until they

720
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.480
were until they weren't until that one. Well, and you know, you

721
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:44.960
don't know if that beating they took
against Iowa State, you know, created

722
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:49.239
a little bit of a hangover for
them or some vulnerability, doubt in their

723
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.719
in their minds that when you know
things weren't going well. Uh you know

724
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.320
in the in the Sweet sixteen that
you know that they you know they got

725
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:59.880
beat but you know, you just
don't know who goes through these guys' minds.

726
00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:01.159
And again, when you when you're
dealing with these you know, young

727
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:05.320
guys, you know, you never
know what's affecting them. You know,

728
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.960
did you know, did did you
know Caleb Love have a bad night with

729
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.400
his girlfriend the day you know,
the day before the game with you know,

730
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:14.840
with Clemson. I mean, you
just you just don't know what's you

731
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.159
know, within these guys brains.
And you know, during all these times,

732
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.159
and it's tough, and you know, the Arizona fans who bleed for

733
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.400
this stuff. Look, there's not
one Arizona fan who felt as bad as

734
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.960
any of the players of it.
Sure, of course, that's one of

735
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.519
the things that I think I think
people lose sight of is that, you

736
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:34.639
know? They they said, well
he didn't care, Yes he did,

737
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.320
Yeah, yes he did. Of
course you do. Of course you do.

738
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:43.440
Except that except Deandrey and True and
Trier and that was just bad.

739
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.920
That was and you kind of maybe
if you would have been smart, you

740
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:50.000
said this could happen, it would
reverted to the first games of the year.

741
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.920
Remember went to the Bahamas. Obamas
lost three in a row and I

742
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.360
lost. I lost three bets on
that team right out of the box.

743
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.360
Yeah, well, because because you
honestly thought that this was going to be

744
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.519
a huge Yeah, I was in
Vegas huge and and and then the funny

745
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.199
thing is they lose the first one, they're not going to lose again,

746
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:12.519
and the second they're definitely not losing
again. I recall, I recall I

747
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:16.239
put more money on the third game. Cha, let's take this call.

748
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:21.119
You're on the aar and on the
ball. Hey, No, I was

749
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:23.400
just trying to help with easing our
pain and just get us to the five

750
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:30.559
stages of Greece and get to the
acceptance level. I'm die hard and life

751
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.599
long, but and the easiest comparison
for me are the Dallas Cowboys so good

752
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:37.079
in the nineties, but just a
lot of talk ever since then, nothing

753
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.639
since two thousand. So just once
we get to that level as the city

754
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:44.480
and community will be fine, you
know, pay the players, let them

755
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.639
be in commercials in Saita and stuff, and then whatever happens happened. But

756
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.480
that's my advice. Who called yesterday
done? And what was he saying?

757
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:58.320
That'll be fine? Thank you for
the thank you for the confirmation. Yeah,

758
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:00.440
we sink to like to stop calling
our blue buds or like you know

759
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:05.320
we have I have the Cowboys and
you know champions. Well, let me

760
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.480
tell you something. For the first
time it well in a long time,

761
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:12.920
Jay has taken my advice. He's
not calling him a blue blood anymore.

762
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.320
He's sat back and realized he was
wrong. They still can be, but

763
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:22.119
they aren't now. And kind of
like bridging back on sports betting and stuff,

764
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:27.119
you know, I learned this during
the PAC twelve tournament two years ago

765
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.559
and stuff before online betting. You
bet against them, you know, and

766
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:32.440
that's finding your conscience. Bet against
them for the other team that went to

767
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:37.360
the amount that you're comfortable losing,
so that when they lose you get some

768
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.599
money. You at least get a
coffee or a dinner or something stuff.

769
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:44.840
So I bet against them, you
know, several times this year, and

770
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.599
especially the last game. I don't
think I was the one who cursed them,

771
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.559
but I ended up getting a nice
you know prize out of what I

772
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:55.800
thought was going to happen anyway,
Reverse psychology. Yeah, yeah, well

773
00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:02.480
thanks for the call. Take care. Yeah, I mean, you know,

774
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.320
people do that, right, I'm
gonna feel good one way or the

775
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:07.920
other. Right, I'm gonna I'm
gonna bet on him if I if I

776
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.960
win, and if I'm gonna bet
against him if I lose. You there

777
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:14.800
you go, all right, Well
that was fun. It's been fun.

778
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:19.679
So one more day. We're off
Friday, so we'll be back tomorrow.

779
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.480
We'll really try and preview up the
Final Four. But Steve and I are

780
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:27.599
gonna be I'm working for the Final
Four group. Steve's covering the games.

781
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.760
He'll be writing for All Sports Tucson, so you can check that stuff out.

782
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:32.320
We'll try and get you a couple
of great guests who can give us

783
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:37.679
some insight into uh into this thing
tomorrow and then we then we're off to

784
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:42.079
Phoenix and we'll be back here.
On Tuesday. So you know, follow

785
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.360
us on the podcast, give us
a listen and we'll uh and we'll go

786
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.840
on. You're about to tell you
some breaking news. Will we have put

787
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:52.960
it for seconds? So, Paulovoiven, we treated in Norlander. You kind

788
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.599
does not have a play until fight
at Arizona at this moment. This is

789
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:59.880
within the hour. Dan Hurley tells
the CBS they're supposed to be here,

790
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.719
well back in there. Oh my
god, so that'll be a storyline.

791
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.719
Yeah, Oh my gods, that's
a little whack. That's a little whack.

792
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:14.760
Do you think up there? Man? Yes, it's hard living up

793
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:17.559
in that part of the country all
year round. Or's something it's gonna be

794
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.199
like eighty degrees. It's be beautiful
here. All right, Thanks for being

795
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:23.960
here today. We'll be back tomorrow
with some more great guests. We'll be

796
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:29.400
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