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You're listening to KFI six on demand. Carol, Welcome to the Jesus Christ

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Show. I love your show.
Can you hear me? Okay? I

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sure can, my dear, thank
you so much. Questions one of theological

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I was raised in the Methodist Church, and then I went to college and

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I became an atheist. And I
was an atheist foremost of my adult life,

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and I am gradually trying to find
my way back to Christ. Now.

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The theological question is, first of
all, it became obvious to me

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that the world has really been in
a battle of spiritual warfare, you know,

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the and humanity of man and all
of the horrible stuff going on.

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I don't understand how God could lose
to the angels, the bad angels,

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if God is all powerful. Okay, well, let's look at a couple

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of things. First of all,
the world's not getting worse. The world's

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as horrible as it's ever been.
And there has been problems with the world

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since day one. So I know
that everyone thinks that their generation is the

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worst experience. But that's because as
people get older, things change, and

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whenever things change, people think think
the world is coming to an end.

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So there are horrible things. There
just are. But you can go throughout

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the history of mankind and trust me, there were horrible things going on.

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You will hear people say, gosh, you know, the fifties was such

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a great time. Mid last century
was just a great time, and then

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you talk to people of color and
women and they go, well, it

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wasn't that great. So it depends
who you ask and in the context you

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ask. That's the first thing.
Secondly, spiritual warfare is not a battle

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against God against the devil, and
there's that imagery, and I think that

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Hollywood has perpetuated that as well,
because you need a protagonist and an antagonist

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in the story, and so the
assumption is that God is in battle with

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the devil at all times. That's
not the case. What really is going

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on, by way of scripture and
the description about spiritual warfare is that God

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has allowed the devil to have domain
over the earth because people have free will,

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and that choice that people have only
has value because people can choose to

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do wrong. For instance, Carol, if we look at a simple list

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of things words that are associated with
good things, good attributes, nobility,

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honesty, bravery, courage, these
types of things, right, the minute

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you say them, you have to
understand that the flip side of them is

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what makes them have value. So
bravery only has value if there's adversity.

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Honesty only has value because people don't
have to be honest, they can lie.

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So with those battles going on in
this place earth and in this world,

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you're going to have two things tugging
on the individual. You're going to

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have God and those things that are
good tugging, and then you're going to

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have the devil and demons tugging and
motivating and trying to tempt on the other

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side. That's the spiritual battle.
It's not God per se battling with the

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devil and going, oh, I
can't win, he's so strong. It's

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mankind. It's God battling for man, battling man for man who is tempted

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by evil. My second question is
how do you know you're saved? I

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pray throughout the day and I don't
know that I've been saved. Well,

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as far as salvation is concerned,
Scripture makes it clear as to what needs

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to be done. It says simply, and this is in Romans ten nine

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and ten. If you confess with
your mouth that Jesus's Lord, and believe

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in your heart that God raised him
from the dead. Yes, you will

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be saved. Okay, For with
the heart one believes and is justified,

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and with the mouth one confesses and
is saved. There's no magic potion or

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anything like that. It is every
day. It is a realization of those

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things. Doesn't mean you won't have
doubt or frustrations with the church or the

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people in it or any of those
things, or question or be frustrated with

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things that you see taking place and
Where's God? That's not what it means.

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You are awesome. Thank you so
much. You're welcome to me.

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I ask you a question. Yes, you said that for a good chunk

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of your adult life you were an
atheist. Yes, What was the catalyst

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that that made you move from a
person raised in the church to someone who

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didn't believe there was a God?
My brother and his wife are active Christians,

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but they do not push it on
me. I have good friends who

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are active Christians. They do not
push it on me. When I see

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how they live their lives, the
examples that they set have made me realize

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how far I have to go.
That's lovely, and that's that and that's

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your path back. But what brought
what took you away from the church?

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Why did you leave college? Oh, that'll do it. Yeah, And

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that was before things got really really
ugly. I've been to the Middle East.

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I was in Jerusalem on Easter Sunday, and that was back in the

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sixties, and I was very liberal, got very liberal in college and you

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know, it feels good, do
it kind of thing. And I really

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don't know what happened, except gradually
I began to realize that there is evil

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in the world and that you do
have a choice, and that the answer

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for me is Jesus. Amen.
Well, that's that's you know, everybody

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has their journey that they have to
go on in the process wrestling with these

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things. Now, of course,
you know biblic there is no conservative or

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liberal when it comes to God.
There are liberal Christians and conservative Christians.

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But the important thing is that you
find your way, your path back to

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God. As many people, and
I know, there is a lot of

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battling that takes place in colleges,
which is strange because if you look back

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at the major colleges in the United
States, their original mission statement was all

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based in faith, and they have
lost their way. That's not to say

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that schools have to be faith based
by any stretch of the imagination, but

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it seems like rather than being a
place of thought and education, they've become

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a place to strip people of their
faith and beliefs. I was a college

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professor for a long time, and
I saw a lot of that going on,

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where students were being bullied from a
teacher's lectern and the power of the

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grade was scaring everybody into not being
of their true selves. And I think

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that's one of the things that opened
my eyes. There's a lot of bullying

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going on right now, and Christians
are being persecuted everywhere, indeed, sadly

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so. And I think that even
more sad is the fact that Christians in

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the United States don't understand how good
they have it now. There is bullying

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obviously taking place here, but people
are not being killed or set apart or

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put in jail for their faith like
they are in other countries. Yeah,

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I'm blessed or very blessed. So
there's a need to stand up for your

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faith and defend it. And what
we have now is sadly is young people

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running from the faith because it hasn't
been instilled truly in and an understanding or

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an ability to defend their ideas and
thoughts, and they end up getting pushed

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out and run from their faith instead
of running to it. And it's a

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shame. Carol. I enjoyed chatting
with you, and I'm glad to see

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that you are back in the fold. You can call any time with any

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questions you have, but praise God
that you have found your way back and

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we're thrilled to have you. Diane. Welcome to Jesus Christ Show. Yes,

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Hello, Hi Diane. How could
I help you? Oh? Well,

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first of all, I just want
to thank you for all that you

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did for us on that cross,
and you've always been part of my life,

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but it took me over forty years
to put you first in my life.

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Well, praise God, and the
transformation has been such a blessing.

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Thank you, Thank you, thank
you. Jesus. I'm men okay,

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So well, my it's two part
question. You never referred to your mother

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as mother. You always called her
woman, and then on the cross you

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gave her to John and she had
I don't know how many daughters, it

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doesn't state that, and four other
sons. So and it was always kind

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of understood that the children would take
care of widows and their parents as they

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hate. So that's my question,
why didn't you ever call her mother?

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And why did you give her to
John? Okay, So there's a couple

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of things going on there. First
and foremost mother or the or the term

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woman in scripture is not a mistranslation, but it's misunderstanding that it's a term.

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It's like ma'am. In context,
it translates to woman, and it

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sounds a little terse, but that's
not the case. It's actually a sign

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of respect. It just is specific
to the situation. So as far as

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the mother's concern, you have to
understand that scripture wasn't a document of every

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single thing I did every single day. Scripture is a document that has a

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narrative that is focusing on specific parts
of who I am for the narration,

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so specifically, it's focusing on my
deity because that's what's important. Doesn't talk

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a whole lot about my regular stuff. Just doesn't, so the regular home

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life and things like that you don't
see. What you see is exchanges between

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my mother and me that have spiritual
ramifications. Therefore, I'm setting apart myself

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from my mother in the spiritual context. So you hear me say that at

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the wedding at Kana, because I'm
separating. I'm saying it is not yet

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my time, So I am speaking
as deity in that context, not as

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her son. Secondly, on the
cross, now, this is where Catholic

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brothers and sisters and Protestant brothers and
sisters might see things a little differently.

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Is you have a circumstance on the
cross that instead of giving Mary over to

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her children. Keep in mind Protestants
believe Mary had other children, that it

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was given over to John because the
concept is about the Christian family at that

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point. That's why I'm referring to
woman because I now again am standing in

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that deity role. So it's different
in context. That is the reality of

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what's going on there. Not disrespectful
in any way, shape or form.

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Glenn, Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Good morning, Thank you for

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taking my call, my pleasure.
How can I help you? Well,

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my question is I heard some older
people referring to thinking back to the foot

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Willson show. Huh, and he
had a phrase, the devil made me

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do it, yes, which kind
of made me think, what power what

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capabilities the satan possessed. Can he
actually read my thoughts? No? Can

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he know what I'm thinking? Can
he make me act in a certain way

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or no? The relationship between man
and the devil is reactionary. So scripture

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says that the devil can't read your
mind. First Kings eight thirty nine says

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that God alone knows the human heart, and so it's an interesting relationship that

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man has with the devil. So
the devil can't. Let's see, the

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devil can't push you off a cliff, but the devil will scare you or

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do things to make you not think
clearly, and then you would jump off

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the cliff. So there's a difference
between the two. That people give too

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much power to the enemy. The
enemy really the way the enemy learns about

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you. You've heard that saying speak
the devil, the devil shall upear.

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Well, that is a loose interpretation
of scripture, and basically what it's saying

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is that the enemy has no connection
to you unless you give the enemy connection.

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So when you talk about him,
he appears because he's not reading your

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heart. He just is. When
people focus on the enemy, then the

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enemy is present, but the devil
can't be everywhere at once. The enemy

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is not omnipresent or anything like that, and so people get confused. They

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think of the devil as God's arch
enemy, which would mean it would imply

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that he's the same but opposite,
And that's not the case. It's not

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the same in power, shape or
anything, authority or otherwise. But what

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the enemy can do is poke at
you, almost like an older brother or

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something that sits there and pokes at
you and waits for you to react.

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And once you react, he makes
note of what bothers you or what bugs

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you, or what will get you
infuriated, and reacts accordingly and builds a

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case and a dossier on you based
on those things. But the devil doesn't

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have the ability to read your thoughts
or to harm you in that sense.

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The devil can only play with you
or mess with you to a point where

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you would harm yourself. I guess
the second part of that question. As

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I was reading the Seeking an Answer, there was a paragraph that said the

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devil has the ability to sit on
your shoulder and whisper into your ear.

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Yeah, they call it. It's
the difference between a possession or what they

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refer to an oppression that the enemy
will will do everything he can to tempt

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you, but really you have to
execute everything. There is no it's you

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know, often referred to as a
mouse with a flashlight. You remember the

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old Tom and Jerry cartoons where you
know, Jerry would make himself look like

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a big, huge monster or something
to scare the tomcat. But ultimately it

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was just a flashlight and the angle
of his shadow make him look bigger.

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And that's the enemy has power,
most certainly, but really the biggest power

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is to cause doubt and fear in
humankind. That's the biggest power that the

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enemy has. And so the best
way. That's why scripture says resist the

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devil and he shall flee. It's
really about resisting the enemy in the power

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through Christ. That is the power. Maria, Welcome to the Jesus Christ

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Show. Hello Jesus. I noticed
Jesus that there are lengthy times in my

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life when I'm not feeling the presence
of God and the great joy that comes

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from that. And when this happens, I still commune with God, but

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it's just with the will. And
my question is how important in God's scheme

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of things is this feeling of his
presence. Well, you just don't feel

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a connection, right, Okay,
Well, there's there's times where you may

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not feel hungry, but you know
that you're going to eat again. Or

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there's times that you might be in
a relationship and you may not feel that

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kind of outpouring of a kinetic love, but you're still in love. Yes,

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a lot of people misrepresent that and
then think, oh gosh, you

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know, I've fallen out of love, when really love is something you participate

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in. People forget that. So
if if there's a heater in the corner

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of the room and you no longer
feel the heat, chances are you're the

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one that moved and not the heater. So that's you know, you have

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to participate it in it in a
way. That's it manifests in a real

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way. Otherwise you're not going to
have those real manifestations. So is there

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something that a time that it takes
place. Do you find a rhythm to

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it at all? Does it happen
during certain times of the years, certain

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times of the week, certain times
of the day. You know, it

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happens just in spaces of time where
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I noticed that when it happens I
I even lose words, you know,

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But I still I get angry with
myself, you know, And I still

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you know, I still talk to
God. But it's more like with the

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will than it is with an a
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bereffed when when that absence is present, sure, and I know that it's

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very just as real as when the
presence is there. Well, I want

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you to ask yourself two questions when
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question is am I a Christian?
To which the answer is what? Of

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course? Okay. Now I want
you to ask a second question. It

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sounds similar but as much different.
Am I being a Christian? Ah?

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And that is a different question.
It is because there's a people get caught

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up in the fact, oh I
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but you're not, well, I
am married. No. You if

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people concern themselves and spend as much
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getting married, they would see different
results. People go, oh, the

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wedding, and you ramp up to
it and then it's done. And a

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lot of times Christianity work similarly,
where you have this epiphany or you have

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something that moves you or some people
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natural and it's a natural progression for
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that participation, It's it's that marathon
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consistency when it says pray without ceasing. In Scripture, the term there in

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the original language is like a cough, an incessant cough. So I want

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you to think about your faith that
way, and I want you to ask

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yourself. Am I a Christian?
Am I being a Christian? Mark?

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Welcome to Jesus Christ Show. Oh, good morning, Jesus can speak to

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you. I don't do TV.
I don't get a signal, so I

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listen to the radio a lot.
God bless you well, thank you and

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you too. And a friend of
mine told me about this show a while

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back, so I've been an attentive
listener. Uh I live in a highly

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catholicized area, and the only in
rouge that seems to be is to answer

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the question. So I can go
further with it. But I want to

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know whether I'm wrong or not in
using this uh I guess hypothetical explaining the

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Trinity to people, They all seem
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And I won't know if I'm wrong
in telling them. Oh, I said,

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to be concise, to look upon
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h power of attorney. My wife
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son in all matters. He is
an effect asking for uh. That is

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an effect acting for us and all
that we do. But since I'm not

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there at the time, he's representing
me, is that wrong to say that

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that's what that's what the Holy Spirit
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us to Jesus. Absolutely, there
is there is positioning. There is positioning.

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However, what you're describing falls more
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and that breaks down. There's a
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I explain to him after that that, well, that's kind of representative how

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he can be three people get the
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all the same. Yeah, it's
it's it's one and three simultaneously. Think

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of it this way. Mark time. Time is one thing, it's time,

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yet yet it's three things simultaneously,
past president future. You can't separate

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them. You can use a clock
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but really it's not separating time.
It's just helping you understand or calculate time,

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like today, I'm going to do
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and future are completely entwined all the
time, never separate. Yet they're different.

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So there, but yet they're all
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there's a scientific principle called the triple
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under certain temperatures and press and pressure, you can get water H two

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oh to be ice in its solid
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and liquid in it's in its liquid
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simultaneously at the exact same time are
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you get into economic trinities, or
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the trinity is like an egg.
It's got the shell, it's got

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the whites, it's got the yolk. That's an economic trinity. An egg

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can be an egg without the shell. When you crack it open, it's

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still an egg, but it's not
it now. It's just a part of

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the egg. It's not the whole
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Holy Spirit and Me and the Father
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in the state in which they're executed. So when I'm in the flesh,

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I am limited by the flesh,
but not by deity. So that gets

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kind of confusing to some people.
It's not that you're going to fully understand

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it, but you can kind of
wrap your mind around some of it.

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Mark and I and I hope that
helps. I love that you're talking about

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it with family and trying to discuss
it. Chris, Welcome to the Jesus

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Christ Show. All right, thank
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I was raised in the Catholic Church, Catholic school, the whole thing.

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A while ago I became very disenchanted
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you is, we have free will. And if everything I do I try

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to do from love, and I
know I can't do everything, or I

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could walk across the pool. But
if everything I do from love, why

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do I need? The Church is
in God love? And if I try

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to act that way? Isn't that? Where did you hear that God is

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loved? Oh? It seems like
I've heard that since in school? God

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is love. I see it above
the chalkboard. God is love? What

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school, Queen of Angels? Oh? A Catholic school, yes, run

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by a church. Yes, are
you seeing what I'm doing here? I'm

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seeing that, But so you the
very thing, the very premise of your

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question is nullified by the fact that
even if you learned that one thing,

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you wouldn't have learned that one thing
if not from the church that is trying

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to instill these things in you.
And I don't understand why. It's like,

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Chris, can you get nutrition from
a pill? Yeah, pretty much.

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You can find a lot of it
that way. Why would you want

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to Why would you want to live
that way? Do you not want to

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eat or drink or have you know, flavors and taste? Do you just

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want to consume a pill and that
makes you live? You're fine, no,

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because that's not living, is it. No, it's not. No,

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that's existing. And it's the same
thing with the church. Now,

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the church has its problems, and
I've raised them on this show many times.

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I have issues with the Catholic Church. I have issues with Protestant churches,

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and I make them known. The
Catholic Church is certainly not perfect,

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but it is made up of people
of faith, and people will let you

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down. So the church as a
whole will let you down. And that's

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okay. That's going to happen,
and they need to be called out for

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it, and people like you and
good people need to stand up against the

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things that are done wrong in a
church of any kind. Absolutely, However,

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to look for excuses not to be
in the house of God, to

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look for excuses not to learn or
to be with the people of God,

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tells me that there's an issue.
It's like saying, Hey, I love

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my family. Why do I have
to be around them? Why do I

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have to see them in the holidays? Why do I have to experience them?

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Why do I have to eat my
mother's food? Why do I have

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to I mean why? No one
would ask that question because there is no

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relationship there. There is no love. If you don't want that, so

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you say that you do things in
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or running from God's church, or
running away from things is not a loving

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state. It's not a place.
It doesn't come from a place of love.

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It comes from a place of selfishness, a place of well, I

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want to do what I want to
do with my time. I don't want

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to invest in the people there and
the things that it will ask of me.

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I don't want to be accountable to
the things that it will ask of

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me, and that has nothing to
do with love at all. Wow,

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I just feel like fits the up. I mean, I just feel like

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I don't want to run from people, and just the opposite. I mean,

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I want to help you, but
I try to help people. And

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I'm I why I just feel so
bad now. No, I don't want

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you to feel bad, because a
bad person wouldn't have made this call.

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A person who doesn't care would not
have picked up the phone. This shows

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that you have love. I'm just
saying it's misguided. You're there. It's

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human nature to want to have that
space. It's human nature to want to

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run from certain things, or to
see the structure and the you know,

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the organization, and I get that
that is frustrating. You see the organization,

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You're like, gosh, I feel
like it's wasting my time because it's

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a dance and it's filled with a
lot of pomp and circumstance that mean nothing

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nothing. I get all of that. But underneath all of that is what

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I want you to see. Underneath
all of that is is is the fulfillment

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of you getting your gas tank filled
each week and finding people that you can

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connect with. That's what I want
you to see and remember amongst all of

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this craziness going on in the world, these simple words. I Am with

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you always. KFI A M six
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