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Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye

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on the Ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's

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Jagan Zauce. We have I that's
your name. Now, that would be

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in the least to you, Ali, I haven't seen you in the week.

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I forgot I saw you on Saturday, but I didn't say you're by

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miss, Miss Welcome to the show. We were already on the jagged edge

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here. But you know we didn't
have a show Yesterday's lot to get to

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well God, you know, we
take a day off and all helbreaks,

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but maybe we should take more days
off so all hell will because but it

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was a big day yesterday. I
don't know how we're going to get it

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all in. Let me let me
say this, What was your first impression

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of today day's uh UH press conference
with with desiree h. First of all,

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I'm upset that she has an accent
on the second e in her name

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because that wreck. That's gonna make
it hard to you know, post on

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social media, because I don't know
how to do that on social media.

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That's the first thing I learned.
You can teach you you hold it down

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and then okay, okay, then
that's fixed. And I'm okay with her

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being here. You know, as
you would expect. She was impressive,

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very impressive, right, yes,
yes, uh, you know she joked

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a couple of times. I thought, I thought that was really good.

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I think very we we don't know
her yet, doesn't appear to be full

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of herself, right, she knows
that there's work to do, and and

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I kinda I kind of watched the
press conference with a night toward you know,

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when when when when her name you
know, when she got when her

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name came out yesterday, you know, people finding out from others who knew

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her, you know just what yeah, what do you know about her?

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And so you know, the thing
that I kept hearing is that she's a

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fixer and and somebody's gonna come here
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But in doing that, maybe she's
not gonna be the touchy feely type person

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that maybe Dave Hekey was. I
don't know if he even live and good

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was I don't know so much.
I'm just saying that that's what I'm told

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by people who know. I don't
know, just that she's gonna come here

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and she's gonna fix things and and
that's gonna you know, and that's gonna

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require and it will I mean,
anybody who has in the position she's gonna

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ask to come and they're gonna have
to make hard decisions. They're not always

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going to be popular decisions. And
she's gonna, you know, you're gonna

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have to withstand those things. And
that's whoever came in this job is gonna

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have to do that. It is
very gutsy of her to take the job.

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It's kind of a well, I
don't know if I want to say

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it's a step down, but at
least at the least it's the lateral,

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very best the lateral. But if
you say, you know, you were

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in the SEC and now you're you
know, you're in the Big twelve and

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at not you're not at the you
know, well, I don't know you

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can argue that, you know,
Arizona was one of the better programs in

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the Big twelve with its basketball team
sure the football team is that stands now.

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Certainly baseball and softball are up there. So maybe you say, yeah,

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you know, you're maybe it is
a step up in that regard because

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Missouri is never going to get passed. You know, They're never going to

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be in the top echelon of the
PAC twelve of the SEC. Yes they

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are, and so Arizona moving to
the Big twelve. Maybe it's in a

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little better spot than what Missouri is
in the SEC. So let me just

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because I told you when you sat
down next to me at the press coups,

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I had met her eleven months ago. I can said that in the

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press covers. I was talking to
Vahei Grigori and I don't know if you

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know that name, but he's a
colinist for the Saint Louis paper, a

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good friend of mine, longtime friend
of mine, and I was talking to

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him, and she saunders up,
and I'm thinking, who's this woman?

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Who's this woman? And she started
the conversation. He introduced me to her,

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and I'm thinking, very impressive,
very impressive. And five minutes instance,

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you know talking, Oh, by
the way, this is the Missouri

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A d And I'm in my mind
I'm thinking Missouri a d I'm thinking wow.

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And then she says to me,
uh, well, I'm a I'm

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an Arizona grad. I's like you
are. She says, yeah, I

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was an in law school and blah
blah blah, and I was an intern

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for gab gab Gabriel said, gave
what? So she knows the media,

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obviously, you could tell that she
does. She knows, has a way,

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a way of saying things. And
she was fantastic and I'm thinking,

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God, this is what a dynamic. And then she is she's Hispanic.

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You never kind of guessie, man, she would never guess that she would

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be the read France wise her last
name. So I'm like, okay,

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okay, there's a there's a Mexican
in that woodpile somewhere. We're gonna find

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out where. At some point we
get to talk to her and she said,

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you know, I'm I'm an ex
skin woman. She grew up in

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La I guess, well when I
when she said that, I mean immediately

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when she said that, I texted
my wife, he said, and she

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says Spanish, yeah, which I
thought was cool very much. So.

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So then so about about four weeks
ago I was with Xavier and I said,

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do you know this woman? Uh
does a France? Will you know,

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Prince? And I said, he
said yeah, because she was in

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Vegas and he was in Vegas.
I said, what do you think of

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her? And he said, well, she's very friendly and very good.

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I think, I bet why wouldn't
Arizona not get go after her? And

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then I said to myself, she's
at the SEC she's Asia. Who's coming

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now? Because to me, she
was especially in the in the financial situation

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a zone exactly, who're the right
mind's gonna come here? And voila here?

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She is good for Arizona, really
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you want to talk about when Jed
Fish left the dark cloud that kind of

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parked itself over the athletic department,
right, I mean it was just it

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as well as we said when when
when? When you know, uh uh,

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Tommy Lloyd got here and and Fish
got here, and think how you

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felt like and someone was gone and
kind of like you said, the clouds

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have parted for Arizona, Well,
this cloud came back. For a few

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weeks you thought, how are they
gonna get out? What coach is gonna

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come here? And what athletic director
is gonna come here? You know,

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did you read Anthony's column? No, very good and very good and he

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wrote about that in a week a
week of span of five weeks. All

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that, you said, Tommy Lloyd, the contract had renew Jed leaves a

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new football coach. The ad is
gone. You know, the world has

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come to financial struggles and all that, and then all of a sudden,

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it seems like it's gonna slow like
solving the problems by one at a time.

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Well, there's like a ray of
sunlight, you know, even believe

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Dr Robbins's thoughts on recovering from this
funny yeah, yeah, no, he

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and he made some nice you know, he said, let me be clear,

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you know, we're fixing this,
and and that was you know,

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I thought that was some interesting stuff. So yeah, I mean, you're

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you're kind of you know, you
kind of feel like that again once again,

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like a new beginning for this problem. Very much, so very much.

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So let's go to her clip.
Okay, we're gonna get to Tommy.

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Of course, we're gonna get to
the basketball program. Well, let's

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let's talk about our guest today,
because okay, we're at the news conference,

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and obviously we waited for that to
kind of see, Okay, who's

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going to be the right people to
come on our show today? And I

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think we got two people that I
think can tell us a lot about what's

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going on with the first we got
Rocular Rows. She got up to the

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point of deputy athletic director at JOVE. She went went through a lot of

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that, you know, being a
being a woman in a male dominated area.

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Well, just get her thoughts on
what this day is like for her,

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you know, she does she kind
of feel like a trailblazer for doing

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this. She didn't get to the
a D spot, but certainly the things

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that she did probably have helped a
whole lot of other women who are now

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you know, in in in desiree
read friends of his position. Well,

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and she was interim for a bit, yeah, in between probably a couple

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of times. And then we're gonna
have Mike Andrea, who probably has the

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shortest stint in the job he's ever
had in his life. About that,

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he says, well, that was
that's good. It's a good thing.

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Yeah, And so Mike andre will
come in and you know, well,

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we've got some questions about the Tommy
Lloyd contract and how that came together.

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And I'm sure you know he had
to be involved in that because he was

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the ad. So we'll see what
he can tell us about how all that

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came together. Looking forward to all
that. Okay, so so we were

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at the pres commins. We had
still have a few Yeah, we've got

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a number of clips. We'll play
him throughout the show, but let's start

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with this one because Steve, Steve
got the answer of the day with your

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question of why, the question of
why she she's she at a great place.

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Yeah, you know, why would
you want to leave a great place?

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Sec Missouri? They're rolling and I
said why come back? Why come?

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Yeah? And here's where here's what
she had to say about that.

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It's home. Just quite simply,
it's home. I talked about Uh,

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you know, I got a little
bit emotional on at the podium because this

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is a heart move, This is
a move that I know what the University

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of Arizona can be. I know
there are challenges, but I know we

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have incredible support, we have incredible
leadership. And I felt like the University

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of Arizona was there for me when
I needed them. And now my skill

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sets I believe meet what the University
of Arizona needs at this at this time,

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at this critically important time, when
there are so many challenges throughout college

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athletics, and not only not only
here at the University of Arizona, but

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throughout the entire enterprise. So I
just felt right and it was an opportunity

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to come home. Yeah, which
which of course it's not home. But

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she spent three three years in law
school law school here from California. Let

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me make sure that because she said
she said it was a heart move,

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not a hard move. That's on
my on my transcribing thing, it came

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up as hard. It was a
heart move. That it was just a

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feel and and that's what it was
going to take to get somebody like her

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to come to that they would want
to be here because it's here. I

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don't think so. So you've been
around four or five years now, and

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I've been here a long time,
and you the highers that they've had is

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Tommy Lloyd wouldn't go to any other
program but here, Brent Brandon Brennan,

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the same thing. Now you have
a former U of a grad coming home,

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as she said a number of times, Tucson Tuson. You've never left

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home. So there's there is something
special about Tucson. There is you know,

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you might leave but eventually want to
come back. You know what I'm

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saying. Yeah, it's got that, It's got that warm hug feeling.

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There's a there's a reason that that
that people come here and stay. You

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know, think of all the athletes
you know that have played there that have

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stayed, Coaches who have left and
come back. Larry Smith came back,

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Jim Young came back, rich Rod
still has a place here, Jim living

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Goood, you know, you know
is around. You know, there's all

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these people who they leave and maybe
they you know, they're fine, they

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get better jobs and do whatever they're
going to do, but they come back.

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I was thinking about that yesterday when
I saw that they hired her,

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and just out of all the people
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like we were talking about the Cloud
that have come back, have been like

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alumni or like have had some connection
with us on and I just think that's

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interesting. And then another one with
herxtres the fixtures because they know the climate,

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know the situation. Yeah, so
you know, obviously a lot of

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questions on the technical aspects of the
job. What do you have I think

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one was you know, obviously the
question comes because remember when when when Dave

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Hickey part when they parted ways,
let's use the words that they use the

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mean thing you think of. Okay, Brent Brendan just got hired. You

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know, Tommy Lloyd's only been here
a few years. Caitlin Lowe's only been

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a head coach a few years.
Chip Hale's only been ahead. You know,

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you got a new boss now,
and how does that impact them down

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the road in terms of Okay,
they're not her hires. Yeah, and

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that was kind of a question of
you know, how do you deal with

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the fact that you've got these hires? And here's what she had to say

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about that. It's really quite simple
plan and a progress and progress and then

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we're going to partner together. I'm
going to give you the resources and build

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excellence around your programs so you can
be successful. That's what we've got to

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do. So I look for coaches
to have a plan, show progress,

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and then we and then hey,
I always ask our coaches what is it

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that you need to be successful?
How can I best help support you?

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And that's what our department's going to
do right. We're going to have to

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provide excellence around all of our programs
because we all take a lot of pride

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and we all have a really important
point or part in achieving the excellence that

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we all expect. But every single
person that works in that athletic department,

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they have an incredibly important role and
we all contribute to those When Coach Olsen

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down those nets, it wasn't him
by himself. I bet you if he

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was up here, he would tell
you in a very much more eloquent way

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than I'm telling you. I can
just picture his voice and he would say

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it with such dignity, but he
would probably tell you that every single person

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contributed to winning that national championship.
You know, I had the good fortune

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of working at the University of Tennessee
and I was on the men's side,

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but I got to know Coach Summit
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model. And I asked her once, I said, Coach, how did

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you like? What was the key? What were some of the keys to

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your success? And she said,
alignment. You have to have alignment.

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You have to have your university leadership, so your president, so you asked

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me about the fact that you asked
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too, and I talked about the
feeling and the home. But I also

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know like we have to have alignment
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got to have an alignment with your
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your community, all of our student
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it by ourselves, so we have
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important, very much so, very
very good answer, very good answer.

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And you know what, she used
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and to me, that struck me
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you're at this level and you're very
good, what do you have an ego?

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So that's gonna we have to be
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it may be words, but you
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I thought that was very good at
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no, I again, everything she
said about, you know, and all

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of this was you had if you
don't want out of the feeling pretty good

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about what what they've done. Again, however, it all comes together,

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you know, it's not comes together. And what I took from that answer

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was Okay, I'm gonna get you
you know what you need. That's my

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job. But once I do,
it's your job to succeed. And it's

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going to be on the coaches to
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a you know, a great approach, you know, you know, accountability

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and all those buzzwords that we use
for stuff like that. Okay, let's

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go to break Rocky. You're gonna
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all right, and then we'll talk
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at the press conference, and you
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you know, having been a part
of hope, you know, again

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blazing a trail for people like like
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Streaming live, I mean iHeartRadio WAPP. This is I on the Ball

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with Steve Rivera and jac and Salez
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey,

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welcome back to winning the Ball Here
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Rivera. He's jacobzas Now on the
phone, we have Rocky Lrose, former

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and retired deputy athletic director at Juve. Rocky. How you doing, Ah,

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I'm doing great? Thank you really
great. You're in the front seat

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to the front road today. What
were you what were your feelings so as

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you listened to to desiree Wow,
Well it was a rush of feelings,

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to be honest, with you.
I mean, first and foremost proud of

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the University of Arizona. You know, this is a rare occurrence for a

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woman to be appointed director of athletics
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So just overwhelming feelings of pride for
the University of Arizona, excitement for Desiree

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uh and just you know, looking
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I saw you at the at the
press conference, and for about three seconds,

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I thought, do we want to
go into that about you know,

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the first female athletic record at Arizona, because you know, at some point

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you need to stop talking about that, right And Desiree even said that,

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you know, said I want my
daughter to be asked about what it's like

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to be a CEO, not a
female CEO. But you have to take

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a certain amount of pride in watching
this happen. I mean, you blazed

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the trail for a lot of people. I mean that had to be something

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that felt good to you. Oh. Absolutely. You know I think back

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of my legacy and what I hoped
for for the future. And you know,

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I was director of athletics for a
short time there in nine through ten,

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and you know, my main thing
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it up for other women, right, I wanted to do a good job

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for them and for our department.
And it was, of course a different

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time back then, but to see
that legacy grow and to see this happen,

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even though it's still very few,
it's a different time and a different

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place, and you know she's going
to get so much community sport support and

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people sport. And she's obviously she's
qualified, she's got the expertise, so

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it's all good. So as you're
saying that and then me and looking at

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you as well, today, I'm
thinking what would Mary Roby be thinking?

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Oh, I know, well,
I know when I became. Of course,

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you know they refer to this now
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I guess insinuates that I was part
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actually worked full time in the acting
role. But so it's more like this

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is a permanent position for her,
Right, Mary was thrilled when I got

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named acting ad. I mean she
was just over the moon. She was

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the first phone call I got,
and yeah, she was just this is

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this is it, Rocky, We've
arrived. So I know she'd be so

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proud. I mean, she started
the women's program here and she was the

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foundation, so she would just be
so proud. She fought so hard for

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that. Well, when when a
program like Arizona does does this, you

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know, response around the there's probably
a lot of different response around you know,

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McHale, But seems to me that
this is something that was that it

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was time one and that as you
said, you know, she's qualified.

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I didn't hear one person say I
don't know. I mean you feel like,

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you know, she's she earned the
job and she's got it. I

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mean that has to be, you
know something that around MacHale they got to

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feel pretty good about absolutely, and
that's all I was hearing was great,

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was really great comments about that.
You know, it's really it's not so

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much the people inside that at a
community, it's outside, Like, you

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know, I still get referred to
as the women's ad, you know,

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with no understanding that No, I
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day to day operations for football,
men's basketball. She's getting the as she

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a token woman. You know,
that's the comments you see on the message

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boards and stuff like that. And
it's so annoying this day and age,

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because no, she's not. She's
qualified, she's had experience at a top,

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top level of elite athletics. You
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so that shouldn't even be mentioned.
To be honest with you, So you've

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been out of this for ten years, maybe a little less ten years.

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Yeah, ten years, okay,
so ten years and it's changed so much.

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And I've joked with Jim and I've
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you're I don't know if the glad
it's to be out of it given the

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situation, but you must be okay
with it. I am more than okay

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with Oh my goodness, it is
the wild, wild West. And you

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know, Desiree today said, you
know it's changed. The landscape changes week

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by week. I think she meant
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it is crazy. You can't hardly
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it's changed, and how much I
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it's so wonderful to hear her say
how much. You know her deal

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is the alignment you know, between
the coaches and herself and the president and

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the community, and how she asks
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I mean that was our whole deal
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Dave Strak, Cedric jim Me,
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we did. We would sit down
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and say what do you need.
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she's right on, right on the
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know our coaches are going to feel
supported and you know, can really look

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to the future. We'll talk to
you. Former acting airs On Athletic Director

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and Deputy Athletic Director Rocular Rose that
talking about the hiring of Desiree read France.

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Her name is, you know,
the name is really we're going to

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trip over that whole bunch, but
we'll let that happ But you know,

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one of the things we were talking, Steve and I were talking about FW

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minutes ago, is about people who
come back, right because she talked about

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this place being home. Well,
she's not from here, but she came

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here to go to law school,
but yet she considered this place home.

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been here forever as well, you
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of I don't know, pride in
the fact that you know, somebody who's

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really not from here considered this place
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love the comment. You know, I

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and on and on, and I know

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00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:57.160
I could tell that was what was
inside of Desiree and why she called this

409
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.599
home. I mean, that's what
it's all about. Think of all the

410
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.119
coaches that came and stayed, you
know, from Mike Ken Drea I mean

411
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.759
decades and Loudelsen and Frank Bush and
Rick Rose and you know, on and

412
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:10.359
on and on. But you know, John, Joan Bombasini and now Adia.

413
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.680
I mean, they come and they
stay, and that's what a program

414
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:17.400
at our level needs when we don't
have the finances to keep up with some

415
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:21.079
of those SEC schools. I know
that she wanted to be an attorney and

416
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.799
obviously got the degree. Did did
you know her before before all this?

417
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:27.599
I did not. I just met
her at you know, being a colleague

418
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:33.079
and NCAA events. I did not
know her as a students. I wish

419
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.960
we did at that point. I
mean, maybe introduce yourself. Maybe one

420
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:41.400
day I can envision myself being or
trying to be an ad of some sorts.

421
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:42.200
But no, you know, I
don't know if you know this,

422
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.920
but she was an intern at one
of the radio stations with Gabe Mike Gabers.

423
00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:51.160
I heard that with Gabe. Yeah
that's wonderful. Yeah, that's wonderful.

424
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:53.759
She always had an interest in athletics, and I think that's that's really

425
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.680
something too, that you see that
dream and you pursue it and you do

426
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.920
it and you made it. Okay. So now let's to the reality of

427
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.759
the job, right both from what's
going on in Arizona financially and then just

428
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.400
as she talked about the challenges of
being an athletic director in the current you

429
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.039
know, nc double A environment.
I mean, how do you wrap your

430
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:15.720
head around that? Rocky? I
mean, how would you wrap your head

431
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.599
around that if you were coming in, you know, landing in her shoes

432
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:26.599
today, it is somewhat overwhelming.
You know, we've talked about John Parron,

433
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.359
who was our CFO. I was
the CEO, as John Eustace say,

434
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.240
you know, once that snowball starts
rolling, it's really hard to get

435
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:38.079
it back. So I just I
think of that, I think, wow.

436
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:44.160
I mean, we went through some
massive cuts ourselves, at least three

437
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.599
times that I can remember over my
thirty five years, and it's not pleasant.

438
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:51.160
You know, you have to make
some hard, hard decisions, you

439
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:55.519
know, whether it's you know,
staffing levels or service levels or you know,

440
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:59.279
it's it's tough and I can only
you know. But she seemed like

441
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.359
she had head wrapped around it,
and she seems and not seems. I

442
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.480
have no doubt she's strong enough to
get in there, dig deep and find

443
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.599
out really where where they need to
go. So and the role, the

444
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:12.839
role of the idea has changed so
much. Back to then, I think

445
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:18.519
you, you and and Jim did
as much as you could with raising trying

446
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.519
to raise money, and now it's
you've got to do that twenty four to

447
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:26.400
seven in addition to twenty in addition
to what you're doing, you know,

448
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.839
behind the desk. Well, and
now it's even more complicated obviously with NIL.

449
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.039
I mean you're not only raising universities
for I'm raising funds for your program

450
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:40.279
and for your institution to keep the
athletic department moving forward. But now you've

451
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:44.519
got to you know, there's raising
money for NIL, and those donors may

452
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.880
choose to give to an NIL and
not to the institution. So that's put

453
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.000
a huge complication I think in development
efforts and fundraising. You know, we

454
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.720
talk about it. I just say
we've asked. We've asked other coaches like

455
00:29:55.920 --> 00:30:00.640
you know, Ca Andrea and Andy
Lopez, We've talked David Rubio. They

456
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.319
say, I do not want to
be coaching right now. Would you want

457
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.079
to be an athletic director right now? No? Absolutely not. I just

458
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:12.079
I you know, I know sport
is so embedded in American culture. It's

459
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.200
not going anywhere. But what is
it going to look like in ten years?

460
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.799
We can't keep doing this. And
I know we're going to have young

461
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.799
people that come up that are going
to be enthusiastic to take jobs for coaching,

462
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.000
but they really don't know what they're
getting into. But who it's going

463
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.119
to hurt worse are the mid level
schools, the schools that can't keep up

464
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.200
with the you know, the powerful
money schools, because I'm just going to

465
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.079
be honest, you can't do it. There's too much under the table stuff

466
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.160
going on, you know, stealing
recruits, giving them more money. And

467
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.519
you know, you just oh that
coaches have to add that to their docket

468
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.599
on the stuff they have to do
on day to day is just mind blowing.

469
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.960
Actually, so I knew this.
You had gone at least two or

470
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.039
three times, like trying to figure
out what you're gonna do financially in the

471
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.039
athletic department. A lot of people
thought there's there was always making money,

472
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.799
right, there have tons ofbody just
to do what you do with all these

473
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:08.480
sports. Did you foresee something like
this happening? I don't know, eight

474
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:14.680
ten years ago, when you were
kind of well again. John Parron,

475
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.319
every year we would sit down and
he would do forecasts five and ten years

476
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.160
out. Every time there was a
deficit. Every single time there were huge

477
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.599
deficits. So yes, we foresaw
this coming. And you know, we

478
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.039
were always saved by TV money.
That was that was the good news.

479
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.400
But you know, at some point
you just wonder how long will that last?

480
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.359
You know, and obviously it didn't
for the PAC twelve conference. Yeah,

481
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.480
you know, it didn't come through, and look what happened. So

482
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:45.039
yeah, we always foresaw, we
were always predicting that and you know,

483
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.440
working around that and never tried to
overgrow the department just because of that reason.

484
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.480
So you know, we were fortunate, we were fortunate to stay in

485
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.519
the black all those years. Well
let's go a little bit towards that.

486
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.680
Because the TV money, did you
know, Nancy Doublea, what it did?

487
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.680
Kill the PAC twelve. Arizona's now
in the Big twelve and you got

488
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:07.920
teams, you know, all over
the place for four major conferences. Now,

489
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.559
what do you think about What have
been your thoughts about all of that?

490
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:15.720
Well, of course I'm heartbroken over
the PAC twelve. I mean I

491
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:21.200
was on the management committee for you
know, for twenty five years and vice

492
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.599
president three times, and you know, we were the Conference of champions and

493
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.240
I always felt like we had the
best grasp on the welfare of student athletes

494
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.279
and the true excellence of sports.
So to see that. Go. It

495
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.559
is just it's just absolutely heartbreaking.
That said, I think we all all

496
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:44.920
predicted that we would eventually get down
to just a few elite conferences, you

497
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:46.640
know they always power five, power
six, whatever, big six, that

498
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.799
we'd get down to that. And
you know, I will not be surprised

499
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.640
if we eventually get down to three
or even two. You know, I

500
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:59.200
do hope we wise minds come together
and we look back to some regional play.

501
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.359
But as we say, the train
has left the station, and how

502
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:06.880
are we going to pull this back? It's going to take a huge effort.

503
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:12.480
It's really creative, creative mine.
Yeah, no doubt. Did you

504
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.599
have you talked to Jim at all? Have you talked to your colleagues about

505
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:21.440
this? Well, not about desiree, No, not at this particular point.

506
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:22.759
But yeah, did we have lunch
every once in a while. And

507
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:27.000
I saw him a week ago,
I guess so yeah, and he feels

508
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.720
the same way. Trust me.
We both high five each other and go,

509
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.039
man, we had the best,
We had the best, We had

510
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.640
a great time, we were winning, we were you know, we had

511
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:39.680
great coaches, this beautiful department.
It's just you know, well, now

512
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:44.559
happily retired. I'll ask the question, then maybe Jail continue this question.

513
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.640
So we've always said at least I
have to the nineties, that was like

514
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.000
the glory days of Arizona Athletics.
I'm in this year's Cup of in the

515
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:55.880
top top ten, top fifteen for
sure, and then over the last few

516
00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:00.119
months you're black cloud. Yeah.
I mean I was saying that, you

517
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.960
know, when you know Jed Fish
left and then you know Dave was gone,

518
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.359
is like all of a sudden,
it's like, what's going to happen

519
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:07.880
to this the department and you know, the whole financial thing, And I

520
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.320
thought, you know, a cloud
kind of came over over the program.

521
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.280
But it seems to be I don't
know. I can't think you could say

522
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:17.360
for now, at least it looks
like it's lifted. Yeah, I mean

523
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.199
we're in great shape. When you
look at our coaching staff. Wow,

524
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:27.199
I mean that's that's actually number one. The finances can be fixed finding good

525
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.920
coaches. That's the tough thing to
do, and that's under control. So

526
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:35.599
you know, there really is nowhere
but up at this point, nowhere but

527
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:40.079
up. Rockie is always Thank you
very much, appreciate it. You're welcome

528
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.400
and thank you, guys. It
was good seeing you today. We'll see

529
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.960
you. Thank you, thank you. Okay, bye bye. If you

530
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:47.920
don't, if you do, if
for Facebook friends, you already know what

531
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:52.519
I'm gonna say. She's a fantastic
photographer. I mean like fantastic. It's

532
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.039
not just a hobby, you know, a passion. If you need to

533
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:59.639
go be friends with her. There
she posts her photos. Wow, really

534
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.159
close. No, thank you,
but thank you for you know. She

535
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.360
again, she just jumped in.
I just you know, kind of walked

536
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:09.800
up. I want to come on
the show. After after she gathered herself,

537
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.480
she said, okay, yeah,
we come on the show. So

538
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.239
you appreciate that. She slaying with
me when I reached Yeah, just love

539
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:21.559
getting that perspective of you know,
the shoes that that that DESIREE read Francoise

540
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.199
in right now. It's gonna be
a hard job. It's gonna be a

541
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:25.800
really hard job. And so we'll
see, we'll see how that goes.

542
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.400
So all right, let's take our
break. We'll be back. Love to

543
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.320
get your thoughts on what you've seen
so far. And then in the next

544
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583
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us, please do Uh, We're
gonna play some clips right. Good to

584
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.440
have Rocky on. That was great, Rocky, you know, she's so

585
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great. She's always She also sounds
like she's having fun when he's on with

586
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.519
this in spite of who we are. So you know you were getting to

587
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:31.239
this. I don't know if did
you bring it up with her? Oh?

588
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.559
The women? Yeah, So we
we talked Rocky about the whole idea

589
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.960
of you know, at some point
you know, being a female lad has

590
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.920
to become a regular thing, and
we're not making a big deal out of

591
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.679
it, but we are making a
big deal out of it right now.

592
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.679
And she, you know, and
she as well talks about about that.

593
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:52.960
But the question was asked of of
Desiree. We're just gonna call her desire

594
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:58.000
Okay, we're just gonna call her
desire We're just gonna call her Desiree because

595
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.800
that's just a mouthful and we're a
trip over it. And so from now

596
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:07.119
on she just does no. I
guarantee you, In fact, there's a

597
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:12.079
good chance that we may forget her
last name. So I teach you how

598
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.239
to do that. I appreciate anyway. She she she was asked the question

599
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:20.000
about, you know, being a
female athletic director and being the first female

600
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.880
athletic director at Arizona. Here's what
she said. You know, when I

601
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:29.480
was at the university at UNLB,
I used to get that question and pos

602
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.800
to me, and I quite frankly, I was a little flippant, and

603
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.800
I would say, well, I
don't know how to be a man,

604
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:42.239
so I'm just going to be a
leader. And then maybe I should go

605
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.440
back to that line. I don't
know, but then you know, I

606
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.519
went to Missouri and there were a
lot of first there, right, and

607
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.159
I met with our soccer team and
there was a young lady that was from

608
00:39:54.239 --> 00:40:00.199
California and she was also she was
also Mexican like I am, and she's

609
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:05.159
and she saw me and she kind
of teared up and I and I said,

610
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:07.920
you know, where are the tears
coming from? And she said,

611
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.559
well, I just had never thought
of someone that looked like me would be

612
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.199
in the chair that you're in.
And so I thought, you know what,

613
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:20.400
I need to be a little more
thoughtful in that response. My hope

614
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:24.440
is that when my son Jackson,
has a grand has a has a daughter,

615
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.679
and I have a granddaughter, which
will not be for a very very

616
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:35.000
long time. Let me be very
crystal clear. Yeah, but I hope

617
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:38.760
that my future granddaughter, when she
is a successful CEO, that she has

618
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:44.079
asked what is it like to be
a successful CEO? Not what is it

619
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:47.960
like to be a female CEO?
Good good answer, really affable, like

620
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.599
I said, not a canned answer, just to kind of from the heart,

621
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:54.599
kind of from her. And she
she was like that the whole the

622
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.719
whole thing. She choked up a
couple of times early on, which I

623
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:00.960
thought was was really cool. All
right, Gabe is on is on the

624
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:07.400
line, Gabe, thanks for calling. What's on your mind? Obviously we

625
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:13.679
got a new a d and obviously
we on Saturday, obviously we beat the

626
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:20.400
dumbasses up North, so that was
pretty good. And of course we have

627
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:27.000
a tough well we have a game
on Thursday against Washington State, so they're

628
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:31.559
pretty good. And then on Washington, let the screw screw Jeff fish chance

629
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:37.840
right on. Because against Washington,
Dave, you held a lot of grudges.

630
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:42.679
Is he not your son? He
might be a Gonzales And my kids

631
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:47.119
don't hold drudges. They get mad
at me for a whole So, Gabe,

632
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.159
what have you? A lot of
big news last couple of days.

633
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.960
First Tommy Lloyd's contract, he's he's
signed up for five years, and then

634
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.199
the athletic director. You got to
be feeling good about what's happening right now?

635
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.400
Yeah, yeah, definitely. There
were some bs rumors that Tommy Lloyd

636
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:07.800
will go to Washington. Oh please, Washington doesn't have the money, or

637
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:14.519
Washington is not a men's basketball school. Should they're a football school, but

638
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:21.199
they're not men's basketball at school.
Don't give me that bs. And also

639
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.760
I'm pretty happy that we we got
a D compared to the dumb asses up

640
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:32.119
north. We're basically taking their sweet
time and don't even really care about sports.

641
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:39.480
I'm glad that Arizona's not the stun
devils because they're they all the pinnacle

642
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:44.840
as stupid. Okay, Gabe,
thanks so much for calling man, appreciate

643
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.760
it. Bear down, Arizona,
go cap. This is like, this

644
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.119
is like stand up Live. I
think I think they needs some ice.

645
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.639
Man, he's got to cool off. Another thing. I got another one.

646
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.320
We'll see, Okay, what else? All right? Wellbviously, the

647
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.719
financial situation is, you know,
is a big deal. And I mean

648
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:06.800
we you know, we questioned who's
going to come here but with this?

649
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.079
But you know again, you know, and I mean I kind of thought,

650
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:14.679
Okay, somebody who's in a position
like that, they they run towards

651
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.719
the challenge, not away from it. And so it looks like Arizona has

652
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:21.880
got one of those. So here's
what she had to say about, you

653
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:23.159
know, what she plans to do
here and huh, how they're going to

654
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.199
go about it right in terms of
how we're going to turn it around?

655
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.960
We are challenges or opportunities. I
said that in my opening remarks, and

656
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.440
what we're going to do is we're
going to fit We're going to dive into

657
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:38.000
that budget. I talked to the
all departments uh the staff yesterday and we

658
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:43.480
talked about priorities that we have for
the first couple of months, and one

659
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.480
of those priorities is that we've got
to dive into that budget and figure out

660
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.840
where we are where there's opportunities for
growth. Do some data analytics, look

661
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.119
at where do we compare with the
rest of our Big twelve comparitors, and

662
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.719
then kind of if there's when where
there's opportunities for growth, then we're going

663
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:00.880
to fit out how we're going to
do it, and let's look at our

664
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:06.079
protocols, look at our best practices. It's the same thing we did at

665
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:10.159
Missouri as well. I haven't met
very many athletic departments that say, hey,

666
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.679
we've got so much money, we
don't know what to do with it.

667
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:19.039
So this is not a problem that's
incredibly unique. But what we have

668
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:23.159
to do is just be very diligent
in our approach and very thoughtful. Let's

669
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:27.199
listen, and let's learn, and
let's analyze and put together the best plan

670
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:31.239
and move forward. I guess a
good simple solution for a big problem.

671
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.760
Yeah, well, I mean you
have Yeah, you just start crunching the

672
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.519
numbers and see what you can do. But we didn't make a note that

673
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.039
I think it was Michael lev asked
her if if cutting sports is on the

674
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.239
table, why did she say it? She just said no, no,

675
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.360
and that was the answer. That
was the answer. But then but then

676
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.199
she did follow up after that and
say, you know, because I guess

677
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:57.360
an average number of sports among Big
twelve schools is seventeen, it's twenty three,

678
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.079
and there's twenty two or twenty three
in Arizony, and so you know,

679
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:05.880
she said, I'm gonna I think
Mike andre had said this at some

680
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.360
point, said what we need to
do is get the Big twelve to you

681
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:13.400
know, go our way and add
more sports. But she just flat said

682
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.320
no on cutting sports. Right.
Yeah, so I thought that was a

683
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:21.920
really interesting, interesting deal. Obviously. One of the other challenges is,

684
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.079
you know, donors, right.
One of the thing big things that she

685
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:30.079
did at at at Missouri was got
a lot of money out of the pockets

686
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.920
of their I'll make a prediction she's
going to do great at that here great.

687
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.639
But to Rocky's point, and I've
said this, if you your pockets

688
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.639
can only go so deep, and
eventually some money runs out from you or

689
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.920
or what they won't have somebody.
And with Ni l in the mix now

690
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.760
and you love your love for the
athletic Department and other things that you have

691
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.360
to see mortgage and your other things, how much how far can you dig?

692
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:57.320
And well, she's she's done it, so we'll see what she does

693
00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:59.880
here. But here's what she had
to say about getting the donors on board.

694
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:05.239
How we cultivate How we cultivate donors
is one person at a time.

695
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.079
We do what we say we're going
to do. We live our core values.

696
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.960
We get to know people and find
out where their passion lies and align

697
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.800
those passions with what the department's needs
are and how we can propel us forward

698
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:22.440
into the future. So I love
fundraising because you get a chance to be

699
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.360
able to meet people where they are, hear their stories, and everybody has

700
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:31.000
this incredible story and incredible memories.
And like I said when I was here

701
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:35.519
in law school in ninety seven,
when we won the national championship, I

702
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:37.800
bet there's a lot of people in
this room that remember how where they were

703
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:45.079
and how they felt, so aligning
memories with passions for philanthropy, it's really

704
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.840
special. Very true, Yeah,
very true. Have you ever have you

705
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.360
ever done much in terms of fundraising? I know you work for eltur,

706
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:57.360
but you're guy right boards or anything
like that. My fundraising is working here,

707
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.519
fundraising for yourself. You know,
in my in my prior life,

708
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:05.000
uh, pre kids, you know, I was on a million boards and

709
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.280
I hated fundraising because and that you
were on the board to bring them bringing

710
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:13.239
money. I love doing you know
evans and uh, participating in all that

711
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.360
stuff, But in terms of picking
up the phone and calling people and asking

712
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:21.280
for money, I've never been comfortable
them or not even just that I just

713
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.519
don't like this, you know,
selling that right. I've never been a

714
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:28.239
sales guy either, which is bad
for somebody who needs advertisers for this.

715
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:30.519
But it takes it's hard. It
takes a certain type of person, it

716
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:35.400
really does. But she says she
loves fundraising, So get your get your

717
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.880
wallets out, everybody. Yeah,
I think what you meet her too.

718
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.719
You know who has that as well, who's done a great job is uh

719
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:46.440
is uh, one of the associate, former softball player Eric br Yes.

720
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:52.360
Yes, that's where she's made her
r her way at uh, you know

721
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.840
in the department to get to where
she's at is that she's she's she has

722
00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:00.199
been an incredible fundraiser over there.
Okay, one more, one more.

723
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:06.400
Just the whole idea of being an
athletic director in this environment. We've talked

724
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:12.400
about that. We mentioned that to
Brocky, who said, I wouldn't want

725
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:14.679
to do this right now, but
she was asked about, you know,

726
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:19.840
the challenges of being an athletic director
in this environment and how she's going to

727
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:25.519
deal with that. I think the
job of the athletic director is changing almost

728
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.440
like every month, right, well, actually not the job, but the

729
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:35.599
landscape of college athletics is changing almost
every month. You have Supreme Court decisions,

730
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.320
you have conference changes. I mean
I grew up in the FACT ten

731
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:45.320
and then it was the PAC twelve
and now it's not. So it's ever

732
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:47.719
changing. And when I talked about
what I look for to be able to

733
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.800
hire, you look for selfless,
smart, hard workers, and you have

734
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.800
to be able to pivot, right. You have to be able to be

735
00:48:53.960 --> 00:49:00.280
flexible because that our enterprise is constantly
evolving. But it also that's what makes

736
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.239
it kind of exciting too, right, instead of just looking at it and

737
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.320
complaining about, oh gosh, I
remember free and I am blah blah blah

738
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.559
blah blah, well you know what, like actually sees it as an opportunity

739
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:15.039
because it's a great thing and jump
on that and use it as a competitive

740
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.960
advantage. So how has the athletic
director role changed? I mean, we're

741
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.119
CEOs of one hundred and forty million
dollar company, and so we need to

742
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:29.400
treat the enterprise like that. It's
highly regulated, it's hot, it's highly

743
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:35.119
scrutinized, but it also has an
altruistic purpose of higher education, and we

744
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:38.639
need to make sure that we tether
and continue to tether athletics to the academy.

745
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:45.440
One of the things that she offers
as well is she's an attorney or

746
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:50.880
she has that background, which I
don't think that Cedric kat or Gym or

747
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.159
any of the other ones after Jim. Most attorneys, even bad ones,

748
00:49:55.480 --> 00:50:02.440
are still pretty smart. Well you
better, but you know they're they're pretty

749
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:07.719
smart because you can't be dumb and
get through law school. In most cases,

750
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.199
I've met some attorneys. They go, Man, that guy was really

751
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:15.320
dumb. But for the most part
there by that, I mean they process

752
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.920
stuff in a way that a lot
of other people don't. Sure, no,

753
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.280
you know what they don't have and
I won't say this and I need

754
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.280
an attorney to advertising the show is
they're not you were me. They're not

755
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:29.760
normal dudes or women. You know
what I'm saying. They're they're smart.

756
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:31.719
There's something different. Yeah, there's
something different, and they're very smart.

757
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.639
But hello, how are you?
And that's and that's that's exactly where I

758
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.880
was gonna go with it. She's
affable, she's personable and not so much

759
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:45.239
a lawyer more one of us.
Like she seems smart and personable and she

760
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:50.880
can do both. Like she's joking
with the media. She was the media.

761
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:52.039
But yeah, yeah no, but
I mean I agree with that.

762
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:58.480
Again, being a lawyer, I
think gives you ways of doing things that

763
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:04.199
you and me about you analy Steve
and I you know, do not think.

764
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.719
Sure in a lot of ways that
they think and process stuff. It's

765
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.599
different, and it's just you know, strategic approaches to different things. Because

766
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.719
lawyers, at least good lawyers,
you know, they're they're uh, you

767
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:20.480
know, they grab onto stuff and
they deal with it. You know,

768
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.840
they they you know, they want
to win a case or they want to

769
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.880
win a you know, get a
settlement where they they're resolving an issue for

770
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:31.000
a business or whatever it is.
They sink their teeth into this stuff and

771
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.199
they resolve things. And that's what
lawyers do, right, And you know,

772
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:40.360
you and I, for about thirty
seconds, I thought about being a

773
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.639
lawyer, and I realized, no, I'm gonna do the easy thing.

774
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:45.880
I'm gonna be a journalist. I
never ever thought I didn't want to go

775
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.760
to school so much and do all
that stuff. Okay, so she doesn't

776
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.599
officially start till March third. She
had to rush back. I think she

777
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.000
had to rush back to her son
plays on the Missouri BIS. Right,

778
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.320
they were gonna fly back today.
He's got a game tonight, game tonight.

779
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.400
And she made light of that too. Yeah, so that's cool,

780
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:01.760
and you know, a shout out
to her husband, who I don't know

781
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:07.719
who he is rewarded, but to
be a husband of a dynamic, powerful

782
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.280
woman, Yeah take something. Yeah
you got Yeah. You gotta have a

783
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:15.400
lot of confidence in yourself for sure, you know, like I, me

784
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.440
and my wife she's so much better
than me. It's like, you know,

785
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.440
I don't even know. I mean, I don't hold a candle.

786
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.480
Now. I dress myself. I
will say that for the most part,

787
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.960
although my daughter thinks she should be
dressing me. Dad, you're not gonna

788
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:35.519
wear that. Yeah yeah, radio, Yeah exactly, Yeah yeah, I

789
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.679
kind of am Dad. Let me
help you out. Yeah, okay,

790
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:43.199
cool, all right. Mike Andrea
coming up at about twenty after he's the

791
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.760
continuing interim athletic director. Four.
That's right, I'm sorry, thirty five

792
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:50.880
after the hour, top of the
hour, coming right up and at least

793
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.719
with breaking news, and we've got
some more stuff, so stick around for

794
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:53.880
all of that. We'll right back