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You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio
Network, the best in paranormal talk radio

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in the UK and around the world. Welcome to the Paranormal Pendel Podcast and

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coming to you from the heart of
Pendel, which country in the northwest of

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England. My name is Craig Grant, author, investigator and collector of stories.

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To join me as we take a
journey into the paranormal, UFO sightings,

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cryptozoology and big casts. This is
the Paranormal Pendel Podcast. Okay,

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so welcome to episode thirty seven of
Paranormal Pendel, broadcasting too the Paranormal UK

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Radio Network at pa uk radio dot
com. So yeah, we're back after

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a break and it's great to be
back. I'm back with two of my

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favorite, possibly my two favorite guests
of all time, Ash and Greg from

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Pursuit of the Paranormal podcast. I
thinks about the third time we've had a

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chat on on my podcast, and
I think I've been on yours about two

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or three times, so it's always
great to catch up. Guys. How

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are you Yeah, very well,
Yeah, doing good things, excellent,

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busy, busy. Yeah, well
you've got some big news, haven't you,

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which is one of the reasons why
I wanted to get you on as

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soon as I could, because obviously, you know, in a lot of

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a lot of people want to talk
to you at the moment about your book

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that you've both released, which was
real nice surprise. When I saw it

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pop up on Facebook, I thought, why that looks you know, it

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does look really interesting. I've had
a quick look at it. I must

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have met have skimmed it. I'm
not a chance to read it properly yet,

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but I will do. But what
I have read is really well put

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together, really interesting, and it
covers massive area, doesn't it. It's

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all about ghosts of the United States
of America, which of course is a

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massive area, isn't it. So
what was the idea behind it? Then?

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What what was the what was the
motivation behind doing it? So I

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guess that kind of came from me. We this is going back only two

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years now when we actually started this
project, because we we're in the infancy

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of the podcast and we were doing
one episode of the week. We're doing

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even doing that is be difficult getting
a time, and I think, just

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do one episode of the week.
And then we interviewed Jerry Poley from the

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Hillbilly Horror Stories podcast in America,
and we're talking to him and his wife

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who did their podcast full time and
they do episodes every single day, and

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I was just like, how can
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just crazy. And from there are
kind of shorter. Do you have like

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full length episodes over an hour and
you have short episodes ten minutes fifteen minutes

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night? Personally, I like sennlinth
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like fifteen minutes. Ye, well
that's when I'm sord on and it lasts

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the journey or maybe it's half an
hour drive to work listening to personal I

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drive back. So I had the
idea with Greg of creating our own kind

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of shorter episodes to accompany the main
episode. So I main episodes every Tuesday

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is usually an hour to an hour
and a half. Thought, let's do

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something that's a bit shorter, short
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So we sort of had the idea
and apport, well, I'm just

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thinking, what what could we do
to create like a series like so each

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one's connecting to each other. And
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like America and there's fifty states in
America, one episode a week. That's

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the year's worth of content. So
that's pretty much how it came about.

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And both had the idea of just
basically each state half bestical order, one

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episode a week, and we alternate
each week. So send the research and

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preparing for the episode not too much
work. So the first episode I would

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do the research. I would kind
of lead the episode, and then Greg

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Wood research and lead the episode the
week after. So we've only actually doing

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sort of one episode every two weeks
eeks, so we had to research and

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prepare for the gave us that time
to basically get this content together, so

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we'll decided to Yeah, and that's
how it came about. It's just having

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this weekly episode looking at like a
a case or series of cases in each

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state, some well known and some
never hit off before. Could it be

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fair to kind of try and do
lesser known stories. And one of the

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thing about it actually had to stay
off. One of the purchase of the

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book was because they're quite into the
Power Normal and they watched all the shows

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and stuff and they mentioned how he
hadn't like fair these stories on there.

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I wentury to watch the stuff.
I was like, yeah, that's why

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I had to do it. Stuff
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Hopefully there's it's something new in there
for everyone because we've covered a wide

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range of different stories that will go
into what that's kind of how it came

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about. Yeah, because it's quite
easy to sort of recycle the well known

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stuff, isn't it. I mean
I found that, you know, writing

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the two books that I've written.
Can I ask you about it that then?

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Because obviously it's a collaboration, So
how did that work between you then

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actually writing the book? So well, we we actually took inspiration really from

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the episodes that we've done because initially
it was going to be like almost like

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a companion bit so if you didn't
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done it in a video form while
we've done it in an audio format,

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you could sort of read it.
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it became a big version of a
small companion and it is sort of grew

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to like I said, there's fifty
there's fifty chapters in there, which was

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two hundred and thirty one pages someone
like forty thousand words. So we put

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a lot of time into sort of
just putting the information that we've captured in

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the episodes, but not necessarily word
for word. It was just, okay,

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we covered this, so we'll research
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than necessarily the just scripting everything.
We everything we read out. So yeah,

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it was interesting and there was and
then we set to pull the photographs

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and do the artwork so we could
make it into something more consumable for people

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who weren't really into YouTube, didn't
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mean, people still want to read
a book, you know. I mean

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there are still you know, there's
not better than you know, I'm going

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about and reading a book or sitting
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You know, people still do want
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that we're in this age now where
everything's online. I mean, so basically,

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you you'd sort of greg you'd right
the chapters then and the ones that

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you'd researched and that showed right,
you would you would have thought we we

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would have planned it a bit there
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literally cut it off and said,
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states, okay, and you do. And then we had a spread stea

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and we had like we knew who's
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many words are we're doing, so
each chapter's roughly the same length, and

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we can we went through each other's
good to Pay tray five. I did

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the second tray five, and then
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made edits and added things. Yeah, like ones like the ones that I

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had on the resch or everything I
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than just it was a good collaboration. Yeah, it worked, It did

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well. Well. He really doesn't
surprise me that you were so organized,

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because it surprises me everything you seem
to do, you know, all right,

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from from the from the podcast and
everything that you do always seems to

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be really well organized. So,
you know, whereas i'm that's quite a

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way from the truth sometimes, I
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on the spot then and I mean, you know, you're not going to

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be able to remember everything about every
state or you But if I if I

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put you on the spot and said, you know, I don't know New

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York State, for instance, or
I don't know South Dakota, you know,

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would would you be able to sort
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air or have a completely just bamboozled
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or you pick a state then if
if you know, I mean South

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Daquolity. We talked about Deadwood,
which isn't all I asked, sound absolutely,

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Yeah, that's that's That's why I
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I think is one of the most
brilliant series that's even been on TV.

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And I know that that the town
of Deadwood now realize heavily obviously on its

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history, but also the sort of
paranormal aspect to it as well. So

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so I go on, then tell
me Thomas to tell me about Deadwood then,

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so it is. It's a literal
ghost town. There's an old gold

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mining town that came sort of came
prosperous when all the goals came in,

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all the businesses come to town,
and then once the gold drives up,

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they all go away and move on
to the next town, which is very

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common throughout like sort of the Midwest. Yeah, the maker and we am

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cheating. So I'm just finding the
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I'm not on that false information.
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hotels in Deadwood. One of him
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brothel at one point, and that's
got quite a few ghosts that that aren't

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including sepal of himself, many guests
reports sort of all things happening, taps

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turn on and off, right,
they're seeing ourquitions at all in the hotel.

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And there's the fair amount hotel.
Again it was another brothel which was

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very popular at the time. The
business them in money and find some girls

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of the night. Yeah, and
they had the murders and suicides at the

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hotel. A working girl drounded at
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of death and tragedies that associated with
a building, which is then led to

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sort of untains and goals being seen
today. Really. Yeah, well it

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was a fairly lawless place one this
so you know there's going to have been

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a lot of incidents over the years
and there where there's going to be a

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lot of you know, a lot
of emotional energy and a lot of a

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lot of residual emotional energies. So
you would imagine then that you know,

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that's that's the footprint in it,
that's that's the time stamp, as it

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were. Where you can have these
sort of different types of hauntings. You

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know, you're occurring ones and also
you're you know, you sort of want

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politicized tack things. So yeah,
No, definitely showed the artwork for the

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book. No, it looks really
impressive. I think it's See that's something

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that people don't don't realize when you're
putting a book together, and obviously these

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days you can do it yourself Amazon, as you've done and I've done,

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people don't realize just how difficult it
is actually to get everything together. You

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know, you haven't got a publisher
behind you to do it. So I

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mean, who came up with the
artwork? Then? Whose idea was it

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for the front cover? Because I
think it's really striking? Was it?

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Was it? You? Greg?
Yeah? So go on was the inspiration

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for it? Then? Well,
I just look, I did a lot

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of the artwork for the episodes as
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right, okay, us we wanted
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like an idea, less, let's
get a mappy United States and we'll just

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color it in each state. So
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book because that's the whole map that
that features throughout. And I found some

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ghost overlays and a few different overlays
and a nice background, and that was

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it. And I just I pining
it over to Ash. It's like,

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yeah, maybe we could do this
this backwards and forwards, and then we

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agree on it and we're all going, it's pretty painless. Really, it

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looks great. It looks brilliant.
I mean, what are your favorite states?

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Then stop you, Greg, what's
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Nevada, Okay, obviously I love
Vegas and it would be easy to do

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Area fifty one, but we didn't. We've done the haunting of the Luxhall

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Hotel in Vegas because it's quite got
quite a dark history when it was being

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built, where essentially loads of people
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I just called up some details and
basically it's it's always had a reputation as

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being haunted. Anyway, a lot
of people gamblers that if you've ever been

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into the lups or all the rooms
were like round the outside and up up

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the pyramid, because it's it's a
pyramid shape and you can see the lobby

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from some of the landings, so
people have chucked themselves off or being chucked

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off the landings themselves of a drawing
construction or drawing gambling, and essentially it

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was quite it was quite doomed from
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money issues. There was cost cutting
measures which the construction had loads of problems.

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It was built a half the cost
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I don't know if you know Vegas, I'm not. We've got so you've

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got the Lupsturs right down one end, and you've got the Mirage Hotel next

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to it. It was rushed.
It looks really cooluse it looks like a

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pyramid and a night it's got a
bright blue sort of light that just shines

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up into the sky, so it's
very easy to see from sort of miles

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around. But the problem is because
they tried to rush it up and cut

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cut corners, lots of workers fell
to their death. Some of them have

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been left stand at the hotel forever. Basically, there's reports, eyewitness accounts

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are speaking of paranormal activity within the
walls, ghost lass paritions of construction workers,

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and a prevailing sense of bad luck
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hotel's history, which it's low having
a feeling like I said, there's favor

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isn't it obviously what not? Oh
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for for a dark history and it
appears on a lot of like dark history

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places because it's so tragic. So
yeah, people have had incidents or like

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I said earlier, been pushed to
their death. So that's my Nevada one.

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That's really cool. And Utah was
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cover for Utah Now, skim Walker
Runch it's just a cool place. Everybody

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knows about skin Walker Runch. I
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pick lesser known stories. I think
from a Utah point of view, skim

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Walker Runch is sort of like the
ultimate thing in Utah apart from yeah,

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the Church of Latter day Saints so
and the Moments because the Mormons are based

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in Utah so and they're not really
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yeah, so skin Walker Branch was. So they're my two favorites for definitely.

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Is there anything around the Mormons and
was there any anything that you found

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around the Mormons? Now just not
really right there, probably is. I

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was just fixated on on Skinwalker at
that point. Yeah, No, I'm

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very interesting ash what about you,
mate, what's your what's your favorite?

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So for me it had to be
me in West VIRGINI. Yeah, there's

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just so many different things or passion
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many different types of monsters and stuff. But the black wards after they all

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these different types of months, is
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of one I wanted to do good
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It's just something pretty different or anything
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sort of talked about. And that
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Amusement Park in mes Virginia, that
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There are quite a few kids were
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just by one of the one Bill
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on a ride in the swim pool. A couple of kids drowned in the

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swim pool there. And it's also
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killed there and then the business either
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bought it in the eighties and then
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get it up to back up to
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when they're doing some work there they
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underneath the ground. Leave the bit
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right and has been like just been
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He's seen walking through the grounds.
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heard like kids buying and shouting for
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pool and stuff. But there's nobody
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of trategies that happiness that one really
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bit different and that maybe not people
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well, they've obviously never seen polterguy
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probably built built before Polterguars. I
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nineteenth century? Was early twentieth century, so early that sort of time r

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another one at Corney Islands around I
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so it's funny, and I mean
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a little bit. I mean fun
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attract a sort of dark energy,
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to it, hasn't it? A
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know, I mean the one that
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know, there have been a lot
of a lot of sightings in the actual

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ghost train ride of a worker who
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just been talking about, actually died
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you know a lot of people have
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these dark energies or that you know, these these ghosts that seem to have

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come to some sort of tragic end
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it is quite strange, isn't it. I think it might be to do

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the fact that these places, like
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have a lot of people come in
through there's a lot of human traffic going

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through these areas and a lot of
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human traveling, a lot of energy
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it's just like then trauma and tragic

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events happen and it's just like a
mix of just potentially like a horrible it's

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really yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's interesting. So the book is what

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is it available? Where can we
Where can we get? It's available on

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Amazon if you say it's for Paranormal
United States, which is the title,

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it's the first result. Yeah,
sable on Amazon. Source available on our

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website to see at the paranormal dot
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also do sign copies on our shot
as we have a book board that we

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can send out if people won't be
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that that that's it. Really,
don't you want to say? What's what

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I really enjoyed about writing the book
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podcast, I really enjoyed going through
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you know, the new things,
and when we did the what a year

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later, revisiting all these states and
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a year of doing the series on
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that side of it. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I mean you do

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sort of wonder where the time goes, don't you, because it just it

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just goes so quick. But no, I mean, I'm sure he felt,

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you know, a great deal of
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you know, because it is you
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me, you know, what,
what what have you? What? What's

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your claim to fame? And I
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written a couple of books and there
on Amazon people are like, wow,

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you know, what sort of buffs
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you've done that, you've it's there
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you pull it from Amazon obviously because
you've got complete control over it, which

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is which is good, you know, not publishers involved and that sort of

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thing. I mean, are there
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ideas? Yeah, I can tell
by the look on actually it's currently underway.

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We're currently doing so all right,
well you're going to keep in a

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secret or and he tells what it's
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a surprise to anybody. Essentially,
do you want to say as we could

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do, like the World Exclusive weren't
even talked about all the podcast. Yeah,

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we talked. I just sent Asked
a message the other day it said,

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I don't chat to one Andy and
I'm working in the photos And he's

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like, what, so, yeah, we started you you you do the

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World Exclusive on your own, ruined
it a boy putting it on you.

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I always find it quite interesting that
you asher really into the UFO side stuff

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and you Gregor really into the paranormal
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there is a crossover. I mean
a lot of people you know and I

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do stuff on both sides of it, but there is obviously a bit of

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a crossover between the two. I
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of that as as time goes on. So from the USFO side of stuff,

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I mean since the last time we
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of things in the news, hasn't
there, especially from over the from over

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the pond. So what what's your
take on what's been going on ash with

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with the UFO stuff, and you
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and that so, I mean,
we've had these hearings, suppose the most

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recent things these hearings and the David
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and it's just it's just been surreal
to to what's these this this Congress hearing

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and how Ryan Graves, David Fraeber, and David Brush under all talking about

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these experiences that had these obviously bying
the evidence, and like the reports from

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the pilots, I've seen the attack
the fol side of it, and then

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we've got the Grand Grays, one
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and spars and saying all this on
the testimony which has never been done before.

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The David Gusto again under Underwall,
saying that he's seeing or has provide

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evidence to close obviously can't anouncing public, but provide evidence to the intelligence community

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that there's crass retrievals happened to unknown
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recovered out of these graphs, and
to be saying just to hear them words

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in this setting, it's just been
the most crazy thing. We did a

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two our episode like after that,
hearing just thinking deep into the East,

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different section of it, and the
main key think, the main king points

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of of it is non human biologics
recovered. It's kind of a but it's

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again the wording, it's just we've
never heard before. And also that people

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at least provided evidence that people within
the intelligence community are being threatened, assaulted,

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even possibly murdered by how he rops
covering up that they got this information

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and to be saying that it's a
congress on the whole that they know this

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has been happening. That just blows
open the whole conspiracy. And it's just

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been a whirlwind a couple of months. It's just been absolutely incredible what's been

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coming out. What's I mean said? And a line obviously more it's going

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to be coming out, but it's
just been mind blowing or it's been happening.

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It's like it's a lot of justifications
for people like us that they spent

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years putting a lot of work and
effort and talking about it, trying to

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get his face out there, have
all this and habit whole hitting the mainstream

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papers in a non junky manner where
they're actually pointing on it and on all

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news TV shows around the world or
the potting it as a proper news other

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than like apparently Section sort of said
Section a bit of fun at the end

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of a broadcast, which is what
a lot of them tend today. Yeah,

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it's been proper to say proper news
pointing on it, and even in

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the UK they had a lot of
stuff from Page as well about it.

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It's just what will come of it
would be interesting. But it's been been

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a ride a wildlife, Yeah,
definitely, and I've I've managed to get

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into UFOs a lot more because it's
interesting because they talked about David Grush a

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lot as being like this main whistleblower
and the two guys side by side with

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him, we're referring a lot to
him, and sort of we're sort of

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saying, like referring stuff to David
Grush, saying that you need to listen

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to him. But I didn't realize
I knew David Favor, Commander Favor.

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He's the guy that spoiled the tea
too at UFO. He they were talking

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on another podcast about his credentials and
they were saying it's like the Black cass

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are like the top fighter pilot squadron
in the world but America, but in

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the world. And David Favors like
the commander of this fleet. So he's

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like Tom Cruise in Top Gun,
He's that level in the new Top Gun

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Top Gun Maverick, He's like this
top top fighter pilot probably the best in

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the world. David favor is that
guy in real life. So if I'd

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have him alongside David Gush as well, just saying we can't even imagine being

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getting able to be getting close to
these these objects. They can outperform anything

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we've got. And for him to
say that as well, and he's one

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of the guys in the planes is
phenomenal. So I think the interesting thing

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for me is, you know what
I was saying about the biological aspect of

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it, you know, I mean, that opens up a whole discussion,

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doesn't it about what they found of
the phone, live ones, where the

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dead and crashes, what sort of
I mean, what are they talking about?

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it does, I mean, well,

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I mean basically a statement like that
just changes everything. If if you

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believe what they're saying, then obviously
that then proves that there is life outside

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of Earth, which is a massive
thing, you know. I mean it's

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got religious ramifications, it's got social
ramifications. And the way that we are

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at the moment in the world,
I mean, we are teaching on the

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brink of either climate disaster or go
something equally as bad that's man made.

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I mean, are we really ready
do you think for somebody to actually put

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up a photograph and go, look, there you are. That's the photograph

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of an alien that crash landing in
Nevada, you know, And is that

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well with either dead or alive,
it doesn't really matter either way. It's

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still just say alien obviously, but
you know, it's still proof that there

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is there is alien life out there. And that would change everything, wouldn't

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it. That would absolutely change everything
it was. And I mean I think

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we kind of this is like the
whole disclosure things sort of. It's been

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on everyone's tip of tongue for the
last forty years plus, but nothing's really

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come of it. But it seems
now passable years especially there seems to be

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like a sea change where we're actually
getting stuff from from the government and from

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these high level eidents. The motivation
behind that is there, what's what what's

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the sort of you know, a
word in the community about the motivation.

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I mean there's a lot, there's
lots of different theories. A lot of

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people sells go behind the disinformation aspect, saying they're purposely leaking certain things through

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certain people and then discrediting them people
so that then she thinks like, oh,

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we're giving one hand but then taking
away of another. So kind of

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settles people for a little bit.
So it's like, all, we're giving

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you something, so we kind of
leave it long and then we give you

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a little bit more kind of que
everyone and quiet. But there's a lot

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of pressure from within and outside the
government, and some more people are hard

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as waking up. Like when deep
with the hearings, I was blown away

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by the questioning at the types of
questions and the wording coming from the representatives

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and the either A know about this
stuff and have an interest, which is

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one story or two the obviously been
given the questions to ask, but just

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the whole wording how serious to take
it. They're clearly done either their own

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research or how people do that research
for him to come out with these types

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of questions. So some of the
questions. I was sat there and so

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watch the whole thing. It was
three hours longer whatever it was. Watching

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it live, I was just like
open my mouth like, oh my god.

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I was like and some of the
answers, I was like this pump

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in the air as I go on
gross It's just absolutely incredible. And that's

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just to back that our past was
sending me mess I was at work and

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I'd get a notification on Messenger just
saying, oh my god, this is

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insane. It was, and like
I said, what the end plan is,

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whether it is just because they're getting
a lot of pressure from both inside

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and outside the government. Leaks we
happening all the time, quite a lot

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like we did that we doing that
initially was leaked. It took him three

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years to actually say yeah, that's
our video. More whistle blowers coming forward,

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and I've got this whistle lad protection
that's coming in place to help people

406
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,599
come out more to give this information. I think some of it could be

407
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,160
maybe had to give information. It
was the sort of control and how it

408
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,240
gets released because I'm I was going
to come out anyway. Maybe they're trying

409
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,759
to take that control to these information. I'm going to come out against this.

410
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,599
Let's do it our way rather than
the saying nothing that the happened for

411
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:15,799
decades and then just other people.
So has it been received by other governments?

412
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:22,000
Do you think? Because I believe
that our own government has ad files

413
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:27,400
on this sort of thing for years
and it's obviously, you know, top

414
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:36,920
secret classified information that you wouldn't get
hold of normally. Obviously, if you

415
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,839
want something that you know, there's
a certain length of time, isn't there

416
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,160
Is it thirty five years or forty
years or something, and then you can

417
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,680
put an FOI request in a freedom
of information request, But with something like

418
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,000
this, it's so high level,
top secret that it would never get released.

419
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,720
So I'm just wondering what the what
the thoughts are in in other governments

420
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,440
about you know, these revelations,
because as you know, as as you

421
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:07,039
said, I mean they are they
are significant. Silently in what they're saying,

422
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,480
Yeah, I mean it's been speaking
from scanning UK side side point.

423
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:15,640
They still talk about we have no
information, we don't believe it's a threat,

424
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,920
we don't have anyone in that sort
of deals with this. But then

425
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,680
you've got both legislation that came through
the NDAA it says we shared information with

426
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,160
our allies, were working with our
allies, which think the biggest allied to

427
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,559
the u S is US, so
surely that includes US. And then you've

428
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:39,799
got with Rush and other whistle blows
and documents saying that they have been meetings

429
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:45,559
with the Five Eyes, which is
US, US, Canada, Australia,

430
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:50,559
New Zealand where they have had meetings
talking about this stuff. So one hand,

431
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:52,319
the UK and other women saying no, we don't know anything with this,

432
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,599
but then the documents and legislation saying
that, yeah, actually you do,

433
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,319
so I think again, it's only
going to be amount of time before

434
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,519
the UK kind of has to give
into that question to say, oh,

435
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:07,920
actually, yeah, we have been
pus this information or previously it's some some

436
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:12,000
of it at least, or been
involved in some meetings. Because it's it

437
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,320
is a threat, they treat it
as a threat. That's why they have

438
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,159
these programs to identify it and figure
out what it is. They can't identify

439
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:22,719
it. And surely even just being
a part of NATO, it's all the

440
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,400
same airspace, we do, all
work together. Surely they're trying to figure

441
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,840
something out. They will enlist the
help of other countries. You think there's

442
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,800
no way that they wouldn't. No, I think it will has been a

443
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,280
matter of time before we do find
out that we have been all this time.

444
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,199
And of course there are other governments, there are a lot more secretive

445
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:45,639
overs so you know, the Russian
government, the Chinese government, you know.

446
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:51,159
I mean, there's there's there's there's
information to suggest that they've got equally

447
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:57,280
as as high number of sightings,
and you know from their military as well.

448
00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:02,199
And I believe that there's been a
massive in creasing sightings of unidentified craft

449
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:08,599
that behaving aware that you would expect
to u a pizza behave around the conflict

450
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:15,320
zones in the Ukraine, which I
think is interesting. I don't know what

451
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:19,360
your thoughts are on that. There's
a lot of videos come out recently around

452
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,519
Baghdad and Mozell. There was a
mosal Orb video that photographs, sorry they've

453
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:32,880
been put out purporting to show a
sphere going over mosl It been the liar

454
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,480
to me, but it wasn't until
about a month later though I looked at

455
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,559
against. I can see what they're
saying now, whether it's a sphered sort

456
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:44,440
of holding the ground or something.
To me, but then they've released a

457
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:52,840
few frames of video where they've got
spherical objects going over military of military zones

458
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,679
around the world, which it's quite
insane, and video footage of that from

459
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:04,039
military craft or military observers or drones
or whatever you want to call them.

460
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:10,840
So it's that in itself is quite
quite weird because that kind of technology.

461
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,719
If it was a foreign adversary had
that kind of tech, you would assume

462
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,800
they would be using it for their
advantage into battlefield. And bearing in mind

463
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,679
the kind of people that in the
current Ukraine conflict, people like Putin and

464
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:35,920
Russia, even the Varmer group or
whoever you believe is fighting, if they

465
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:40,320
had technology that could outstrip anything that
the US have got, they would be

466
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,320
flaunting it. They would be I
can't see why they wouldn't be using it.

467
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,880
It's a very good point. That
very good. You know, why

468
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,920
why wouldn't you be using it in
like the battlefield of war? Yeah,

469
00:36:53,119 --> 00:37:00,360
when he's got it's just but then
they're showing objects going across in like infra,

470
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:08,639
like an infrared on a clear camera
like multiple photographs, and it's showing

471
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:15,880
stuff that would normally show white as
hot and there's no white done behind it

472
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:22,719
what appears to be like a pan
of waves or whatever behind this object.

473
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,840
The propulsion system in all the words. Yeah, so there's there's no means

474
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,519
of propulsion that is giving off any
kind of heat signature, for example,

475
00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:37,599
and that that is quite insane.
I think if if a foreign adversary had

476
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:39,559
that, like I mentioned, they'd
be using it. Why wouldn't you?

477
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,840
Of course you would dominate. And
if you have that sort of pulsion system

478
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,679
as well, you'd be you'd been
landing on the moon. And yeah,

479
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,280
strip mine in it, which is
a lot of these countries are looking at

480
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,800
now. I mean it was quite
my fairly quite amusing and hopefully I'm not

481
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,679
on I'm going to get shot by
some KGB office of saying this, But

482
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,559
I did find it quite amusing that
the Russian lander I had a bit of

483
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,760
a bumpy landing. But I mean
the guy, the guy who designed it,

484
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:16,119
suddenly had a medical incident shortly after
I went all out of a window.

485
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,760
By any chase, quite possibly it
was it wasn't the fall that that

486
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,679
killed him, it was the ground. Yeah, absolutely, ever grown too

487
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,199
fast. It's funny, actually I
was. I was just saying to Ash

488
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,119
before we went on went on to
record, I went to Cuba on the

489
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,960
holidays. See very nice. Well, yeah, it depends which where you

490
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,960
look at it. It was I
don't think the right up the food was

491
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,719
that great from but there was.
There was quite a lot of tourists fro

492
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,280
Russia, and I was convinced.
I was utterly convinced that I was being

493
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:58,679
tailed by an FSB agent for the
first week I was there, because everywhere

494
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,840
I went, this guy's face was
their breakfast, at their pool, on

495
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,679
the on the beach, at the
bar. In the evening, when I

496
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,639
went to the toilet, this guy
was there and he and he looked strange

497
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,079
enough. I actually nicknamed him the
Russian Daniel Craig because he looked like Daniel

498
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:17,639
Craig, but he was Russian.
This guy was everywhere everywhere, and I

499
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:22,000
went to there either lots of clones
of him, and he had like,

500
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:23,599
you know, about three or four
brothers that all looked the same, but

501
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:27,440
we're all on holiday with him,
or you know, he just happened to

502
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,039
be. But it was the weirdest
thing. It really was. The weirdest

503
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:35,599
thing. Was getting really paranoid.
Be wife Sarah was laughing a height after

504
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:38,760
he thought it was various. So, yeah, that was that was quite

505
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,639
interesting. But but no, I
mean, do you think there's going to

506
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,320
be any further fall out from this
engine think this is just the tip of

507
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,440
the iceberg, or or do you
think we're I was going to just be

508
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,119
sat on this for the next few
years, like we do seem to do

509
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,400
with with a lot of these revelations. I think more I was going to

510
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,760
come out. I mean, so
much have been coming out with you think

511
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,760
surely we can't just keep happiness of
me because you can go for years nothing.

512
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,599
The last couple of years has been
a bitter bit a bit, and

513
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:12,039
I think that will that will continue. There's a lot more people interested now,

514
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:15,920
there's a lot of people within the
House in America that's interested, and

515
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:19,400
they're going to keep keep pushing it. I think that's we're going to see

516
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,320
more hearings, possibly for at the
end of the year, if not next

517
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,079
year. I've got the new leads
station Company's going to have more. Yeah,

518
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,679
basically more things coming through. What's
always surprised me, though I always

519
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:35,199
made many think, is the fact
that we know that that you know,

520
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,760
the presidents are briefed, aren't they
American presidents are briefed, and I'm sure

521
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,239
it's the same, you know,
in this country. I'm sure the prime

522
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,119
minister's briefed. You know. The
moment that he the new prime Minister,

523
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,039
walks through the door of Number ten, I'm sure you know, the head

524
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:51,800
of the Cabinet office sits him down
and said, right, sir, Kia,

525
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,400
hopefully next time we've got something to
tell you about aliens. You know

526
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:02,920
now that when you look at the
American presidents we've had of late, I

527
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,599
mean, there's one that really can't
keep his mouth shut. I am.

528
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:13,280
I'm just surprised that from that at
such a high level involvement. I mean,

529
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,039
you know the presidents, no,
don't they They've been briefed, and

530
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,440
some of them have let it slip. You know that they do get briefed,

531
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,559
they do get told about it,
aliens and UFOs and they do exist.

532
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:31,039
And there's sort of like being the
odd little slip from from ex presidents

533
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:36,199
who've said that I think Bill Clinton
let something slipped in either that they used

534
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,000
to get regularly briefed on these sort
of things, and that you know,

535
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:43,960
the information that they had would never
get out into the public because it was

536
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:50,480
so spectacular in you know, in
what they had it made made Area fifty

537
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:53,480
Area fifty one look like Child's Player
compared to what you know, what they've

538
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:59,119
what they've found recently. So I
do find it. I do find it

539
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,519
strange that it's something's never been leaked
like this before. Having said that,

540
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,880
I think it's great that it's now
come out and they're taking it so seriously,

541
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,000
and I mean, who knows,
you know, there may well be

542
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:16,360
more revelations to come. I mean
there's space spacefly around JK that he was

543
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,960
killed because he was about to release
some stuff that he'd been told. Yeah,

544
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,239
I think black Obama also spoke about
it a little bit. But I

545
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,320
think we've going back to sort of
what David Plush was saying in the Congress.

546
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:38,000
Hearians was that there's these projects,
this black budget groups that don't have

547
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:44,760
any oversight just kind of above the
sort of hazards answers, which where no

548
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,480
pogram should be at all. Any
sort any money they gets spent has hav

549
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,440
an oversight for me that said,
yeah we can spend this money on we

550
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:58,119
can't, whereas his projects, He's
secret projects don't have that oversight. That's

551
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:00,519
technically illegal and that's right, and
he's provided evidence. Nie said that you

552
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:06,639
can name people in the locations,
names of projects might have provided all this

553
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:12,159
too. He inspect the general and
like so and some of this stuff.

554
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:15,079
You got to think, do this
person who can sometimes only last four years

555
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:22,599
and so, do they get told
everything? Because these are in temporary where

556
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:27,440
some of the people within the government
are there for decades and decades obvious seeing

557
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,360
this stuff, where as they are
presidents are temporary for four years eight years?

558
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:37,280
So do they get told everything or
do they keep the the release of

559
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:43,159
stuff, the really juicy stuff?
Yeah, I said the previous president people

560
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:49,559
sure wouldn't be gone twitter straight away, I think the information, Yeah,

561
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:52,880
because because he doesn't have a filter, does he? So you know,

562
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:58,199
he'd be dragging over a little rocket
man that he's got the he got these

563
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:01,280
stuff and just seeing us see he
might be he might be he might be

564
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:07,800
tweeted from from a mistate penitentiary at
this right. No, it is,

565
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,840
it's interesting and it's something that you
know if if if there's any further disclosure,

566
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,079
then I'll be I'll be banging on
on your banging on your door to

567
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:17,199
come on again and have a chat
about it, because I do. I

568
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:22,679
do find it really interesting. It's
it's fascinating. Have we had any any

569
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:29,039
sort of sightings recently in the UK
that's that are not worthy that you've heard

570
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:37,039
of or I've been reported? Nothing
super not worthy. There's a couple of

571
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:39,480
last year. I mean, we
still maintain a data base. We have

572
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:44,880
the biggest data base in the UK
or current day sightings. I'm not gonna

573
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,480
lie that is. We are behind
a little bit just because been working on

574
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:54,760
book and other projects which we can
as I'll go into in a minute.

575
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,000
But last year we don't have to
announce some money. You know, you

576
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,559
can keep it for your own podcast. But I mean last year, I

577
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:07,320
mean we had sightings up last year. There's four hundred and ninety seven reported

578
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,639
sightings in the UK in twenty twenty
two and Greater Manchester was the most popular

579
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:19,039
area. That's interesting last year,
just beating the Southwest. Yeah, yeah,

580
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,480
southeast, that's interesting. Yeah,
great, because it's more populated.

581
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:27,840
You think that there's more people looking
up at the sky. There's the reason.

582
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,679
Because the we do all the data
and each year we publishaw annual report

583
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,599
and look at the data to look
at where sightings where the most popular places

584
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:42,719
sightings and like Great Mansters comes up
on the northwest of the Northwest and just

585
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:49,800
Preston Bade quite tightly populated areas,
and again with the southeast around Kent and

586
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:55,079
then places where again very densely populated
population. But as part of the annual

587
00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:00,280
report we have we have a formerly
expert out a rate of sighting based down

588
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:07,880
population density and sort of number sightings. So it works out basically and the

589
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:15,119
works out a number sightings pair two
hundred and fifty thousand capital so start taking

590
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,760
a consideration population that this kind of
takes that out of the equation, right,

591
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,079
And then we see in the annual
report we have two leader boards and

592
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:28,480
we have share number of sightings in
one column in like a table that's got

593
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:30,840
northwest of the top from the southeast
of there, and then we have to

594
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:36,000
column next to it, which is
the rate of sighting. It takes population

595
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:39,679
density out the equation because you have
more people, like say more more be

596
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,119
able just to report it. Then
the table you can see how the table

597
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,440
changes. Yeah, so I think
we think southwest jumps up quite a bit

598
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,960
and the northeast jumps up quite a
bit because they're less density populated on a

599
00:46:53,000 --> 00:47:00,119
comparable basis, they are who have
more sightings based on population, So in

600
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,239
all infimation HOWD ways explaining it?
But yeah, also we look at that

601
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,280
in the in the each year we
have our report looking at the previous years

602
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,719
data. So is that available on
your website for people to just gonna have

603
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,760
a look. Yeah, that's on
us identified that call at UK. I've

604
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,960
got the past three years annual reports. Now you can like eighteen nineteen pages,

605
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:27,159
both graphs and stacks and charts and
stuff. It tends to be urban

606
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:30,519
areas then that are seen more.
I when when when you take the population

607
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:36,559
equation out of it as well,
would you say it's more urban areas or

608
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:39,719
more rural areas? Then that seeing
these these sights, it kind of just

609
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:47,559
stay to be more urban areas.
I think in Scotland's always seems to have

610
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,639
a high number of sightings as well, and that can be quite obviously spread

611
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:58,719
out across Scotland's not that many bix
cities, but get past sort of Glasgow,

612
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,880
any rabas not really there's nothing much. You get quite a lot of

613
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:08,599
sightings from like beaute and our guy
look that way okay, but then there's

614
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,960
correlating with that, is there's a
number of military bases out in Scotland.

615
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,639
There are yeah, yeah, let's
see around that way, and whether that's

616
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:22,440
what's been seeing because people in these
royal areas are seeing strains or unusual crack

617
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:29,800
that's been reported as as ufls.
Yeah, yeah, I just try to

618
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:36,079
bring up the Yeah, it's no, it's interesting because yeah, I mean,

619
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:40,159
obviously there's certain areas. I mean, we're obviously quite familiar with the

620
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:47,000
Northwest or I'm quite familiar with the
Northwest, and obviously areas such as you

621
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:52,440
know, Winter Hill and Pendel Pendle
Hill as well as I have a lot

622
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,400
of sightings over the years. It's
gone, so I have not heard much

623
00:48:54,440 --> 00:49:00,760
recent it's gone. It's gone fairly
quiet around here. I uping to speak

624
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,760
to a couple of local UFO guys
again shortlists, so they might be able

625
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,920
to correct me on that, but
I've not heard of anything recently. Well.

626
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,679
I mean the northwest certainly seems to
be a bit of a hub,

627
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:22,119
and obviously the northeast as well,
the Northeast coast is fairly active as well.

628
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:27,280
So it's just interesting the spread isn't
it the the you know, the

629
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,199
sort of hot spots really, I
think as is what I was trying to

630
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,639
get out if there are any hot
spots I because I was looking at and

631
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:38,679
now we have a year by year
great Now and the Northwest. Yeah every

632
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:45,239
year they sort of similar high numbers
as does Yorkshire, but again quite dense

633
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:52,159
populater, some big cities basically all
clumped together. Yeah, and there's Northwest,

634
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:58,280
Southeast, Northwest Yorkshire, Scotland,
so they tend to be the places

635
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,400
I'm kind of talking about Royal versus
so the Southwest, which I think there's

636
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:08,280
gone well Devin quite open. Yeah, lots of countryside in the next four

637
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,480
and places like that. Yeah.
Yeah, so they on the rate of

638
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:15,840
sighting, they're actually top you take
the sort of population out of it,

639
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:21,519
they are they do top the table
for the most out sightings. That's interesting

640
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:25,199
because yeah, I mean I've been
down there and I stayed very blust involved

641
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,960
me more. And it was last
year when we had the heat wave during

642
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,840
the summer, unlike this summer obviously, but there were very clear skies and

643
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:42,800
it was so black there was no
light pollution at all, and you could

644
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,840
literally see everything and I noticed,
I mean, i'd I'd be laid out,

645
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,719
you know, on a on a
debt chair at one o'clock in the

646
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,480
morning with you know, something fermented
to drink looking up at the sky and

647
00:50:53,559 --> 00:51:00,079
the number of shooting stars and the
number of what were quite obviously sat to

648
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:01,840
lights. But if you didn't know, you would think it could be something

649
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:06,800
else because the sky was so dark
and there was there was no light pollution

650
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,920
whatsoever, so you could see absolutely
everything. And I suppose, you know,

651
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:16,079
you could you could see things that
that you could mistake as something,

652
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:21,480
you know, UAP. I'm not
saying that that that's what's happened with all

653
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:25,039
of them, but there's a possibility
because because the sky is that dark,

654
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:29,800
you can see absolutely everything, and
there's a lot of stuff goes on up

655
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,039
there that you wouldn't necessarily see in
a sort of city because of because of

656
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,199
the light pollution. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And sort of on

657
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,760
that point, one area of the
UK which always comes in pretty a lot

658
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:46,679
on both tables is London. There
were second bottom in the number of reports

659
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:53,320
made it altogether considering how many people
living in the Great London area. There

660
00:51:53,320 --> 00:52:01,599
was second bottom number of reports they're
bottom in the siting support. That's just

661
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:06,840
because London people are busy. No
one that's obviously got light pollution the worst

662
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:13,360
place too much, just too busy. Londons are a busy I don't like

663
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,039
Bush everyone. I just had I
had three days down there last week and

664
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:23,000
I can concur that it is ridiculously
busy and ridiculously expensive. So we know

665
00:52:23,159 --> 00:52:25,119
than a light man. It was
a bit of a shock to me wallet.

666
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:30,320
But no, that's interesting that so
because yeah, I mean you think

667
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:37,039
probably light pollution players are a big, a big factor in that, you

668
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,280
know, because it's it's such a
large urban area. But then you know,

669
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,960
if you're getting a lot of sighting, some sort of great to Manchester

670
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,239
again, I mean, Manchester is
a big connurbation. You've got a lot

671
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,840
of light pollution there. So it
doesn't necessarily explain it doesn't. Maybe it's

672
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,199
just people are people are different and
as you say, they're more busy and

673
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:58,400
they don't have that inclination to stand
there and look up at the sky.

674
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,360
I mean, if you just stand
there and look up at this guy who'll

675
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,760
getting bulldogs by god knows how many
thousands of people walking over the top of

676
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,559
you want you in London because it's
that you know, it's that busy.

677
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,440
So so, yeah, it's interesting. What about the paranormal side then,

678
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:15,320
Greg, has there anything been interesting? Have you done any interesting investigation since

679
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,719
we last spoke? Yeah, we've
so me and asked. Just a couple

680
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:27,280
of weekends ago, we had like
a weekend full of paranormal investigations. So

681
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,960
we went out with one of the
guests on our show or a regular contributor

682
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:37,360
now to our show, My Girl, and some of his friends to the

683
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:44,880
Museum of Haunted Artifacts in Stoke on
Trent, Okay. I think that's in

684
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:51,840
the name of the place, and
yeah, we are very interesting place.

685
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,960
That so that started off our weekend
and we were getting a lot of sort

686
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:06,559
of sound anomaly, sort of banging
footsteps in what essentially is a museum of

687
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:10,760
all these weird artifacts. They've got
eddin Lorraine Warren, sort of bits and

688
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:17,039
piece of paraphernalia. They've got the
front door from thirty East Drive in the

689
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:22,760
room, they're like haunted dolls,
all sorts of thing. And then on

690
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:28,039
first of all, they got loads
like swords that have been used in beheadings

691
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:34,840
and executions, and loads of just
death masks. There was an Alister Crowley

692
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:40,199
death mask or something like that.
There was, It's interested. That was

693
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,920
my Holied Hotel. I think actually
I was going to say, it's interesting

694
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:52,559
how objects can hold onto this sort
of energy in I mean, I'm really

695
00:54:52,639 --> 00:55:00,119
interested in haunted objects per se,
mainly because I've got a piano and domsters

696
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:07,239
that we've talked about that a little
bit on the odd sides continues to be

697
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,760
that, but I won't talk about
that on my podcast, and more interested

698
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:15,079
in what you can tell me.
But yeah, I mean there are I

699
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,280
mean dolls, for instance. I
think a lot of people get creeped out

700
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:24,280
by dolls, don't and haunted dolls
especially there's something particularly particularly unnerving I think.

701
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:30,199
So yeah, there's there was.
There was haunted dolls out Stoke and

702
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,559
like the normal sort of weird looking
clowns and such like, and that that

703
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:40,320
place was really weird. Like all
the artifacts were like you've got body bags

704
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,159
for in this Socilum area and yeah, it was like used bodygones. There's

705
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:52,000
a mortuary table like a slab,
metal slab, just like the weirdest stuff

706
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:58,320
you could you could go into and
and it it gave good results for us.

707
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,800
It was it was a really interesting
night. We tried to debunk a

708
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:07,159
lot of the sounds, so that
yeah, that the video of that is

709
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:14,320
actually up on my girl's YouTube channel
Paramike, So that's that's worth checking out

710
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,840
because it is a good video anyway
about what happened at night. And then

711
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:23,280
we couple of days later we went
to my Haunted Hotel in Chester I've heard,

712
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,360
yeah, So we were super excited
to go there because we've we've spoken

713
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,559
to one of the guys who runs
the like the paranormal side of of what

714
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:40,039
essentially is a normal pub, Danny
Moss. So he's been from Haunted Hunts

715
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:49,079
and other Amazon Prime channels and shows
and whatnot that they've done, and so

716
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:52,320
we've been chatting to him for a
long time on the podcast multiple times we've

717
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:59,960
been talking about stuff and yeah,
he he said about doing a podcast up.

718
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,480
We went up there and we're fortunately
we've got a load of footage and

719
00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:08,559
it was it's a place there everybody
seems to go to and everybody talks about

720
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:15,119
it afterwards. It's it delivers and
some of the stuff that we we've captured

721
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:21,800
knockings on command like and then we'd
say can you can you just do that

722
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:27,639
again for us just to confirm you
do it straight away. Then there was

723
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,159
other like tapping noises, knocks at
the window, clear knocks at the window.

724
00:57:31,519 --> 00:57:37,119
When the door was one of the
most knock on the door. Crazy

725
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,280
for me. It's literally in this
room and doors, just a couple of

726
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:45,199
feets in my left two there was
they knocked on the door. And what

727
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:51,119
with my point hotel Now there's twenty
six cameras cover in every room, every

728
00:57:51,159 --> 00:57:54,519
corridor, and when you're doing investigations
in the rooms, the team that run

729
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:58,960
it in their control room, they're
watching all the cameras. I'm your app

730
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:02,559
radio actually so we've got an adio
and said children nothing our daughter can he

731
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:06,639
just check check the fottage. It
was like, okay, gave us a

732
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:08,239
couple of minutes, I'll have a
lot. Five minutes later, he comes

733
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,480
up with his phone to show us
the footage. It's got us in the

734
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:16,639
room. The room next us was
empty and shown us the cottage, the

735
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,719
corridor of outside of hims empty.
Can see our door and closed. They

736
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,840
on the footage. Two oud knocks
on the door. It's like there's just

737
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:30,079
nothing that could have explained somewhat knocking
on the door when there's nobody outside of

738
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:35,639
door, and I just wanted the
sort of evidence that we captured. There

739
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:37,639
was quite a lot that we go
up through the night. Oh yeah,

740
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:44,159
insane. Yeah, right from the
moment we got there pretty much from we

741
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,400
moved out of our sort of the
room we were like was sort of like

742
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:53,960
bass room. Yeah, it was
just every time we moved to a different

743
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:59,599
area. It's like a massive oak
table in the brothel area, which is

744
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,800
like just off the bar, and
I mean I was at one end of

745
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:08,199
it. I didn't hear or feel
anything, and there was ash and the

746
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:13,599
person that was with us was all
of a sudden, there was this bang

747
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:16,719
on the table and the table moved, and those two were like, you

748
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,760
just moved? You just did the
table move? And I'm like noop.

749
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:24,320
They're like, did you move it
with your foot? Because that's what they

750
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,599
thought. Am I kick the table? But it's such a big table And

751
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:34,199
I was sort of sad that in
this throne at the end obviously, but

752
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,800
there was no I had a massive
gap before there was a table leg,

753
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,360
so I would have had it would
have been visible that I would have had

754
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,239
to push my leg for and the
Clearest Day. We've got the video.

755
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:49,800
We need to put that up on
the on our channel. Actually it's been

756
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:59,800
on my Haunted Hotel sort of like
paywall featured programming, and clear as day,

757
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:04,119
the table bangs from underneath. You
can see I'm in and the camera

758
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,480
ashes cameras on the end and it
just shakes like shutters where it wacks up.

759
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:15,239
And this table is huge. It's
not a small table. Wow.

760
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:20,000
So that was one of the many, many highlights that night. It was

761
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:22,400
just it was just a great night. And like I said, where you

762
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:29,800
can ring like one walk talkie and
instantly validate or debunk what's just happened,

763
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:37,000
lay on the cameras or whatever.
That's interesting that Yeah, yeah, time

764
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:39,840
stamping stuff and everything. Yeah,
I've heard all sorts of stuff about the

765
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:45,679
place, so you have plenty of
plenty of people said you really what's going

766
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:52,679
and check it out? So so
yeah, definitely. So how's the podcast

767
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,519
doing? Because that's where this empire
started, isn't it? I hope you

768
01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:01,079
have not neglected it from it.
We are from it your other stuff that

769
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:07,920
you've been doing. As you'll know, it consumes everything, just trying to

770
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:14,639
get guests is a challenge in itself, that is half the bott. We're

771
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:19,280
fortunate enough that we've got a lot
of people that we know now from the

772
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,000
community were both UFO and paranormal,
that we've been speaking to you for a

773
01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:30,239
long time, and organically we get
emails from people asking if they can come

774
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,239
on and chat about a book,
whether they can come on and talk about

775
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:36,679
their experiences, or we reach out
to somebody and say, I've seen your

776
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:38,719
story online, do you want to
come and have a chat to us?

777
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:44,719
And we're very fortunate that people are
quite open for that now, which is

778
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,840
really good. So it's still a
challenge, and as you know it is,

779
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:53,840
it's an almighty challenge. But we're
still pumping out at least one episode

780
01:01:53,880 --> 01:02:00,679
a week mainly there's normally two.
We've not missed too for no, we

781
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:05,800
haven't actually we haven't missed an episode. At least one episode we we have

782
01:02:06,039 --> 01:02:10,079
not missed for nearly coming up three
years now. That's really some going because

783
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,400
yeah, yeah, I mean,
you have to have a passion for it,

784
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:16,559
don't and you have to have an
enjoyment while you're doing it, and

785
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:23,159
you know, any outside factors can
can really sort of you know, influence

786
01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:27,760
how you feel about about doing this
sort of stuff, because you're right,

787
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,079
it is all consuming. But you
know, it's great that that you're you're

788
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:37,079
in a position there were people wanting
to come on the shore, you know,

789
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:42,480
and are actively seeking you out,
which I suppose helps. Look it

790
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:45,719
doesn't it, you know when you
get in. Yeah, it's still trying

791
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,519
to tie up the Times. We
get a lot of people contacting us from

792
01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:52,199
America and trying to tie up the
Times and yeah, yeah, and with

793
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:57,440
Daylight Savings over there and we missing
your last we missed one the other last

794
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,920
I was and how wrong you were
out? Yeah I was. I was

795
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,000
now behind. The guy messaged me
and said we're just about to go on

796
01:03:06,039 --> 01:03:09,320
a You're going to join us.
I'm like, oh my god. Yeah.

797
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:15,800
So it is a challenge at times. And then the social media and

798
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,079
then trying to reply to everybody or
not get Twitter nerifications all the time,

799
01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:22,119
and I don't even know what's going
on our for time on Twitter own and

800
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,159
just like I get nerifications and I'm
like, I'll try, I'll try and

801
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:29,360
keep up on it, try and
keep up on it. And then and

802
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:37,000
in the book I'm your Secret we've
got a couple of secret things coming up.

803
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:43,400
Actually, so yeah, we've we've
been trying to tease. We put

804
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:49,119
a teaser picture up, yeah,
about a week ago of a forest basically

805
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,480
with a question mark that is,
let's leave it to people's imagination. Then,

806
01:03:54,519 --> 01:03:59,239
Alice, we could we could probably
say, well, not what it

807
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:05,480
is or thing, okay, but
but world exclusives. After September the first,

808
01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:14,199
we will know exactly what it is
that we've got. If that makes

809
01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:17,639
sense, Okay, it probably doesn't
make sense in my head. However,

810
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:25,599
on September the first, we are
doing something, okay, and the the

811
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:32,400
the outcome of that project, we'll
start to come to fruition and you'll see

812
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,679
it not just from us, I'm
imagining. Let's just say that much.

813
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:42,039
That's that's good enough. And now, well, now that's definitely that we've

814
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:45,039
not told anybody, and that's the
closest we've come to telling anybody. So

815
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,360
thank you. That's really really piqued
me. Interesting. Now, I'm sure

816
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:56,199
a lot of this is something different
for people who are involved in it with

817
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,880
us, so excellent. Well,
we'll definitely keep an eye out for that

818
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:05,239
then. Yes, so apart from
suits of the paranormal podcast. Just remind

819
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:11,559
me again of your websites. So
the UFO side of stuff, we are

820
01:05:11,679 --> 01:05:15,880
UFO identified that we had the biggest
database of current day UFO reports in the

821
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:21,199
UK and we recently last weekend well
recording this middle of August, we were

822
01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:26,079
in the Daily Mirror. Basically there's
an interactive map that the Mirror. We

823
01:05:26,159 --> 01:05:29,039
were working with the Mirror for the
months right in his map book together and

824
01:05:29,079 --> 01:05:31,760
it's interrupted mapping. Put in your
post code, it's how you spots in

825
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,599
your area and you can click and
all this stuff and the UK and then

826
01:05:35,679 --> 01:05:41,559
that was pushed out to all the
local Reached sites or the Live seven lives

827
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:45,199
whatever lives out for them mus or
sites. So we had a massive lot

828
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:50,480
of media interests when that was released. If I can't tell you about as

829
01:05:50,519 --> 01:05:55,119
well as this book rand in the
United States, I've been working on your

830
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:59,840
own book for the past nine to
ten months and that is based around you

831
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,760
of HO reports in the UK in
the last well since training twenty right,

832
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:09,400
So that's going to be released in
mid September. That's going to be over

833
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,079
a one hundred UFO reports that have
been made in the UK since twenty twenty

834
01:06:13,559 --> 01:06:16,639
and that haven't been released anywhere else, so it's it gets close to UFA

835
01:06:16,719 --> 01:06:20,039
reports excellent and a lot of the
data's going that's not been in the next

836
01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:25,039
book, Brilliant, will be out
in a couple of weeks, so it's

837
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:29,199
I've been working on how would you
find time to live? I don't even

838
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:33,920
know both have full time jobs?
Well exactly even though yeah, no brilliant.

839
01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:38,639
So have you got a title for
that or have you yet to decide?

840
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,079
Yes this side, I think if
one, I'm thinking of its just

841
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:48,000
UFO identified the reports twenty twenty twenty
twenty two. Okay, there's basically three

842
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:51,519
years worth of the sightings made in
the UK. And is that going to

843
01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:56,039
be released again for Amazon or ye? That would be yes. I'll probs

844
01:06:56,079 --> 01:07:00,400
through through Amazon's a lot of doing
his Facebook and say, well, complain

845
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,079
and you upload the manuscript and then
when you look at the preview it's blocking

846
01:07:02,159 --> 01:07:08,400
light. Yeah, tell me about
it. It's an absolute nightmare. Yeah,

847
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,119
I know. Sometimes you just think
I'll just put it out. It's

848
01:07:12,199 --> 01:07:16,079
even if it's spread over two pages. Not the people who who have never

849
01:07:16,239 --> 01:07:24,679
tried it. The Kindle publishing app
that the users is a little bit techi,

850
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,039
isn't it. To put it mildly, it's not the easiest thing to

851
01:07:28,119 --> 01:07:31,519
manipulate, So so no good luck
with that. I'm surposed. I've got

852
01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:35,440
any hairless. I think I've been
trying to use that damn thing. That's

853
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:40,559
obviously where you've gone wrong, Regan, I've been brilliant. So yeah,

854
01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:45,960
and then you've got UFO Identified website
as well, sorry suits the Paranormal podcast

855
01:07:46,039 --> 01:07:53,280
website as well, which is Pursuit
of the Paranormal Cood at UK excellence,

856
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,559
right and now I just suddenly thought
that was wrong. In Pursuit of the

857
01:07:55,559 --> 01:08:00,760
Paranormal Doctor the UK, yes,
excellent. And then you can get all

858
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,360
of the US stuff on there.
We've got the Merched store, which we

859
01:08:04,519 --> 01:08:09,440
put new designs up quite a lot. The book you can get from there

860
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,520
is post is posted free of charge
in the UK, so that's that's the

861
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:20,760
bonus. So we can't quite compete
with Amazon Prime, but again, and

862
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,720
that's one good thing. So if
if you're listening and you're outside the UK,

863
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,760
you can go into your local Amazons
and still get it through Prime.

864
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,880
We've had somebody in Vegas order a
book and it was there over like two

865
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:36,439
days, which blows my mind.
They can do it that quick, it's

866
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:42,600
insane. Yeah, excellent. Well, it's been a pleasure to have you

867
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,279
off on again. Thanks for coming
on. No, we've had we've had

868
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:50,119
a really interesting chat. And as
I said, as soon as we get

869
01:08:50,199 --> 01:08:57,000
some more UFO stuff, I'll be
I'll be back message messaging you on firstbook

870
01:08:57,079 --> 01:09:01,279
or whatever to say, let's have
another chat about this because I just get

871
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:04,720
a feelings, as I'm sure you
guys have, that something more is going

872
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:11,159
to be coming soon. So let's
let's all just keep an eye open for

873
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,479
the next lord of interesting information.
And as I said, thanks very much.

874
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,800
Good luck with all your projects,
good luck with the books. How

875
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,880
many you're writing, I've lost counts, I'm sure you have as well,

876
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:27,039
but good good luck with We've said, yeah, no, good luck,

877
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:30,239
good luck with all your investigations,
good luck with with with your research,

878
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:35,039
good luck with the books, and
hopefully we'll catch up again soon. Definitely,

879
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,199
welcome back to pop doing some podcasts
again. Thank you. Yeah,

880
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:44,000
traumatic, doesn't even go into it. It's been great. It's been great

881
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,439
to have it, to have you
guys on. So yeah, take care,

882
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:53,439
thank and we'll speak again soon.
You can visit my website at www

883
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:59,119
dot Craig Bryant dot co dot uk. Paranormal Pendule will return, and remember

884
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:00,880
to keep watch in the shadows.