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This is the Baseline discussing the hot
button topics of the NBA. Welcome everybody,

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your tune to the Baseline. Calie
Warrenshaw discussing the hot button topics of

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the NBA. Special episode of the
Baseline Trade deadline discussions. The clock has

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now finally struck and all teams need
to stop what you're doing for a pause

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button, so we can start talking
about some of the movements that have already

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happened throughout the course of this day
and really over the course of the last

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week or so with the trays that
have taken place. And what better way

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for me to be able to have
this great conversation. My man warren Shaw

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and one of our longtime peoples.
Man, he's been doing it for so

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long. He's been covering sports,
he's been covering music, culture, entertainment.

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You can catch him on YouTube as
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going on right now. Man Scoop
be Brandon Robinson joining us, Man,

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Goop, long time, No see
my brother. You're looking well, Thank

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you, brother, It's good to
talk to you. Awesome, awesome seaw

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how are we looking, man,
what we're feeling? Your thoughts about the

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movements that have taken place. Like, if you could think of one word

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that could really kind of signify how
the NBA trade deadline came out in your

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eyes, what would it be.
I don't know if I can be as

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succinct as to say one word,
but I do think it's you know,

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if I would, I will try
and say that open. And by that

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I mean is that the landscape of
the lake is open, and a lot

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of teams feel like they have an
opportunity in the chance. So a lot

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of deals were done even previous to
the deadline deal. Obviously James Harden,

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you know, much earlier in the
season, and then Pascal Siakamji and Aobe

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et cetera, et cetera. But
to me, that signifies that nobody's looking

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at another roster and feels like,
oh, I'm scared of them. Everybody

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feels like they have a chance in
this situation. So the moves that we

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saw today, even some of the
things on the proverbial edges that gives you

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maybe a solid third or fourth starter, that signifies to me that, hey,

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everybody feels like they have a chance
of the season. So the Nuggets

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being the defending champions, doesn't scare
anybody. The cethic to be no more

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in the East doesn't scare anybody.
So that's exciting thing for for NBA fans

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specifically. I've got a lot of
move from made today on trade deadline.

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Yeah, I would echo what he
said, but I also think some of

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the things that that benefited teams that
were talked about in contender conversation, I

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think the addition of Patrick Beverly on
the of the mil Milwaukee Bucks of benefits,

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and defensively exponentially, particularly on the
on the weak side, because Damian

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Lillard, as much as we know
him as a as a prolific scorer,

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playmaker alongside. To be honest,
I think defensively one I think Pat bev

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is gonna push him in practice,
and two I think Philadelphia got better h

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adding an offensive piece. There's a
logjam at the two and three position in

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Indiana and Buddy hild was the odd
man out in that instance, and with

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it beat out for at least a
month. You can't solely depend on Tyrese

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Max in a nine and night out
basis to get you scoring. You need

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some help. And if Kyle Lowry
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I think that that actually helps MAXI
get additional rest come the second half

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of the season, and then you
wait for a bat to come back.

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As far as the New York Knicks, I think they added pieces to their

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already deep or at least their talented
roster. I won't say deep. I

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think that the move made them deeper. And I also think that when you

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look at the Phoenix Suns, who
many expected to make a run in the

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second half of the season, adding
Worris O'Neil a small piece to some a

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giant come playoff time defensively is going
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He's very familiar with the NBA's Western
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Jazz. Those are some of the
tips that I that I picked up on.

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Yeah, I think depth is the
word that comes to mind. You

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know, for myself and the teams
that you listed off Scoop are teams that

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clearly recognize that for them to endure
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their roster has to be full.
I know it's real easy that you

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can basically run with maybe like you
know, six seven deep come playoff time,

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but I do think that this run
for the championship is going to require

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at least nine deep for most contending
rosters. And it's interesting that the Bucks

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did make that play to bring a
guy like Patrick Beverly, and you probably

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think that they would double down more
on probably trying to score the basketball.

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But clearly even with the addition of
Doc Rivers, even with the addition of

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you know, and they moved,
which you will call it Robin Lopez right

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like to me, I feel like
they need to be quicker, they need

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to be more athletic, but they
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to get back to where they believe
that they needed to be. Did it

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surprise you that the Knicks really moved
like a lot of bodies in order to

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get Burke and Bogdanovich. And do
you think that makes them significantly better?

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Because I think one of the good
things that people felt like with the Knicks

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is that they had a really deep
roster to sustain the injuries that they've been

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during. Now we're finding out that
og Nanobi is going to be gone for

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another three possibly four weeks in order
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Well, I think that they were. They already had an impressive roster,

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and I think even in Julius Randall's
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than his end of the bargain.
And in addition to now you bring in

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an Alec Burke that already had a
familiarity playing for the Knicks. I think,

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to me this signal is one.
The thing that they want to add

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more of is premium three point shooting. You have that with Josh Hart,

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who also not only gets you premium
three point shooting, but for a swingman

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in his size gets you salid rebounding. But you get someone who's a solid

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shooter. So when Julius Randall does
come back, he's a proficient passer.

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I can't kick out the in the
double team and pass the ball pretty well

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to open a bogie. But in
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Jalen Brunson, who has another hand
to feed and in the secondary, when

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you want to play Brunton along the
secondary, or if you decide in certain

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games you want to start voging.
I think the Knicks were in a good

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position, and you know the fact
that they were able to rest Mitchell Robinson

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and go on such a run and
doing so, when he comes back,

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he's fresh and he's able to spell
folks in minutes. I think that the

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Knicks definitely this is the year to
to really execute on trying to win a

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championship. But I'll add this,
I think another sneaky move that that benefited

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a team in the NBA's Eastern Conference
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made to get Xavier Tillman. Definitely
someone who is rough and tough, rabbit,

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wolverine and x men, if you
will, something that they missed with,

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you know, parting ways with uh
Marcus Smart. And I think I

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think that the East has gotten more
competitive and some of the guys that they

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brought in on the Knick side as
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as the Bucks and the Philadelphia seventy
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Sean, I wanted you to weigh
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that. I me personally really liked
the move of the Celtics getting you know,

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Xavier Tilman. I think he brings
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then the Celtics first got when they
had gotten Daniel Tice, you know,

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but I feel like he's a more
more foundational kind of guy. I can

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really learn off of Al Hawford and
those guys and really help them shure up

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a little bit of what we've seen, which was slippage from the front court

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position, you know, being able
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what I'm saying with those bigger teams, especially when Joel Embiid and when Randall

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come back fully strong and healthy for
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lot of it here is also with
Boston. They need guys to eat up

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some minutes. Like we talk about
this all the time, like and from

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the baseball side, you're like,
you need those those innings theaters, if

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you will. So Boston has been
relying so heavily with on their starting lineup,

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you know, that front six,
and now you get another guy who

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can actually play and not hurt you
when he's out there. I think defensively,

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Kaita was, you know, he's
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them as well, but he's an
experience. So I think till Min has

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a little bit more just kind of
you know, experience in the NBA,

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a little bit more just understanding and
basketball IQ by virtue of that experience and

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allows Joe Mozulaga and another body to
play out there that can spell Al,

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that can spell Christaps as well to
in the front court and again who's switchable

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and technical technically go into that lineup
and shoot threes in the way that Boston

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wants to continue to do, especially
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So Boston definitely, you know,
made a smart move. They didn't have

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a lot of money to make a
larger move anyway. So they find another

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partner again in Memphis for the second
time within the last year to get a

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deal done. What Scoop was talking
about though, is really interesting me and

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kind of want to take it next
one especially comes to the Eastern Conference,

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right Philadelphia. So I'm singing their
praises in the beginning because I was listen.

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The Buddy Heel deal made a lot
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Buddy healed. He doesn't compete with
what Tyreese Maxi does. In fact,

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he's a compliment to Maxi and and
beat in a lot of ways. Guy

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can shoot the three, you know, at a high proficiency and doesn't really

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have a whole lot of usage,
right he's more of a kind of a

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standstill shooter. But then they go
and make moves and trade guys to their

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proverbial arrivals, Pat Bev to Milwaukee
and then even a smaller move Jaden Springer

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to the aforementioned Boston Celtics. Now
that seems to symbolize that they think they're

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going to get Kyle Lowry in the
buyout markets, so to speak. But

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what were your thoughts on the overall
movement from the Philadelphia seventy six ers within

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beat out here now scoopy, uh, the buddy heel situation, but then

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trading trading players to clearly conference rivals, you know, within the same within

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the same year for type competing for
an NBA title. Well, I mean,

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I think you're right. You did
give it to a conference rival.

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Luckily for them, they didn't give
it to a division rival. But I

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think when you look at the fact
that they brought a campaign as well,

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I think he's someone that does have
a level of uh playoff experience to add

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to that team. But I think
the buddy He'll move was essential for them

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because that offense is built around uh
Joel Embiid, and while he's out,

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you have to add additional offensive scoring, and so to me, the Pat

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Bev move was surprising. But the
Buddy Hill moved with someone that they had

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coveted for some time, someone that
they had coveted, I'm told as far

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back as when he was in Sacramento. And you know, to me,

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they got who they wanted under different
circumstances, of course, and beat out

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for at least a month or more. Again, uh, you look at

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Tyrese Maxley, He's going to need
some help scoring the basketball in a world

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where you know, you also have
Mobamba and you have there's one other guy.

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It's been a long day at their
disposal. Well, Bias, Tyris

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is there, but I was talking
about the other the other long guy three

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and D guy. But long story
short, to me, yes, you

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look at the buyout market with Kyle
Lowry. I was actually disappointed that Marris

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was let go. I thought that
that him staying there would have been beneficial

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for the long run, at least
from positions four to five while you're waiting

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for MBI to come back. That
wasn't in the cards. But to me,

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the fact that basketball right now is
such a high scoring game. You

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got guys scoring one twenty five to
one forty five at night, sometimes adding

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a Buddy Hill, who you mentioned
could spot up shoot. I think it

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was also beneficial because the Pacers were
so luck jam at that that swingman position

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themselves, having brought in Pascal Siakam
and and also more and more having faith

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in Benedig Master and who you know
now he gets more minutes to me in

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the patier's office. Rick Carlisle shared
with me that you know, he likes

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the approach that Benedig Matherin has and
he feels like an older vet on that

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team. And when you have the
assurance or the confidence from a head coach

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and you as just a rookie,
they make a move like that for Buddy

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Hill. It kind of makes sense
in the end. So Philadelphia looks out

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by them having so many guys at
that position, and I think that that's

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gonna help Philly even in the playoffs, because once Joelle and bid Us come

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back, and you add Buddy Healed
into the mix and potentially bringing in Kyle

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Lowry as a backup, and you
have you have Tobias Harris, who's been

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in every trade room or imaginable,
and you add the thing that Philly was

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missing was firepower. Tobias Harris can't
be the only swing man. You need

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to add another guy at that two
three position that can can can work wonders

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and in that system. And you
know one thing in that Philly system,

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now with the head coach, they're
gonna do a lot of running. Buddy's

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gonna fit in very well in that
system. Scoopy joining us here on the

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baseline, Cali warren Shaw, I
got a quick question to ask you in

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school. So you you think they're
all in with with this trifecta of Tobias

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Harris, Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxey. Now I know, Buddy Heel is

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a is a nex factor sor to
speak. But I guess just out of

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what I had interpreted and thought that, like I guess, if the sample

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size presented itself well and the stock
was high and you could probably maybe move

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some piece, is change the dynamic. With someone as versatile a coach is

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Nick Nurse, I wouldn't have been
surprised if maybe Tobias Harris got moved for

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the right you know, for the
right price or whatever. But do you

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buy into the idea that this this
can work those three that three headed monster.

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If Philly can work. My opinion
is that it could work, But

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it also looking in the off season, Like I feel like a lot of

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these moves that were made at the
trade deadline were chess pieces that will further

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develop in the off season. So
like when I look at this move with

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bringing in Buddy Hill, in my
mind, while I'd like to see it

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be successful, I still think that
Tobias Howis is going to give you valued

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what they needed, it could make
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gonna go while the going gets hot. Tobias has been all reliable for them

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for the last couple of years.
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and kind of closed the book on
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move Harris out of this will be
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not meant for him to be the
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get some more licks in here now
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to focus in on him, you
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or for sorry for the for the
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what the Mavericks have done. Well, you talked a little bit more about

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what the what the what the Suns
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the Mavericks have done as well too. Another team that I think improved their

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overall positioning here with Luca and Kyrie
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from from Charlotte. Your thoughts on
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Western Conference as they try to you
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think they're currently seventh. You know, what is the highest what is the

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ceiling for the Mavericks in your opinion, Scoop, I think the mass particularly

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because now they have minus Luca wearing
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two punch with Kai and Luca,
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to go back home to Charlotte,
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grand scheme of things, I think
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would benefit that team a lot.
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and and and and it's good to
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being played for PJ Washington instead of
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him to that pot was something that
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offseason when they were looking for a
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do know that Draymond Green was at
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know that at some point Kyle I
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had coveted. Really since September,
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that you know they think that he's
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I also know Sacramento was another team
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in Washington. But I think that
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that it's going to help them a
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Chicago playing alongside Levigne and then found
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lot of respects. Was a throwing
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landlord. I've washed him first hand
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capital. But I think that style
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defense, I think he's he is
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jump shot, nice a school the
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move, by the way, and
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gonna speak to this because I'm trying
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make them, you know, a
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key, but he's shown that he's
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the Charlotte Hornet. So he's another
person that you were just alluding to a

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moment ago where meaningless minutes, you
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mean significant and meaningful minutes, you
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Oklahoma City Thunder. So what were
your what were your what was your take?

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think he's gonna be like an X
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Every Gordon Hayward to me is everything. Eric Payakowski was supposed to be

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on a more polished discipline Clippers team
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not just because he's like it's because
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a leader in Shake gilg just Alexander, players like Lou Dort and others,

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particularly Shake Gills is Alexander who draws
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and night out basis. And now
he can kick it out to an open

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guy, but he can Hayward can
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just a spot up shooter. I
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in Oklahoma, and the one thing
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focusing on every year is developing a
system where guys actually want to be there,

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guys are having fun, and guys
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that I've really noticed or knew going
into this offseason was how excited lou Dort

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from Montreal was to play with Shake
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and how they're swag developed, but
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those guys really connected in the off
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had that chemistry and it carried over
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into the regular season, and they've
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that are not always being talked about
because they're not in New York or Los

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Angeles or more. You even see
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the Cleveland Cavaliers or the seven game
winning streak, and they're doing their thing

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in the Eastern Conference. So when
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Gordon Hayward, you're forcing the critics
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them if you win. Minnesota had
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off and on throughout the course of
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for the first and second seed.
Now you see the Cliffers kind of catching

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up and doing their thing. But
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that is in that Western Conference,
and Oklahoma definitely added to that by bringing

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in Gordon Hayward, a guy who
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And you know, now Kim kind
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holmeren Shake Gills is Alexander Moore.
They're like a young old team. You

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have the right amount of young people
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That's that's like a recipe for success
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out as many guys as they did
for Gordon. So assuming Gordon does come

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back and is healthy, the overwhelming
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like, Hey, they needed to
get a big So Gordon doesn't address that

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need per se. But obviously we'll
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the end of the season or at
the end of the show, if you

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will. But to me, that's
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you alluded to from the veterans side, a guy who does a little bit

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of everything can help with the playmaking. I think it's a great great move

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with Oklahoma City Thunder as you touched
on though. Timberwolves too, though,

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what did you think about their move
in getting Monty Morris, you know,

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to back up and aging and often
injured Mike Conley. But that team does

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look lost sometimes, but they don't
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it was a solid move. Your
thoughts on the money Morris Deel from a

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couple of days ago. I think
the Mighty More was was pretty good,

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particularly because he was playing meaningless minutes. He had just gotten back into the

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rotation in Detroit and it seemed like
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Detroit was like was like the middle
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point. It reminded me of how
last decade everybody came through Orlando before they

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ended up winning a championship or being
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like Trevor Reza leaving Orlando to the
Knicks going to the Lakers. Detroit was

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that point too. Uh. But
but I digress when I when I look

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at Monte Morris's moved there. He's
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I spent a lot of time around
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and he spoke reverently about his time
in Denver, but it just seemed

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like in in Washington last season he
just never found a groove. You know,

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Washington brought him in playing alongside his
childhood friend and caw cous I talked

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to Monti tonight. Monty's excited to
get started. Uh. In Minnesota.

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They are franchise that embraces their their
players. They build around their players,

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and you know, he's in a
situation where he can play alongside in Anthony

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Edwards, Karl, Anthony Towns,
and Rudy Gobert. He does well.

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Nas Reed has been such a institution
as a as a role player for the

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Minnesota Timberwolves this season, I think
that the sky's the limit for him.

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And you know, he shared with
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between last season and this season has
been how much on one accord Rooney and

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Carl has has been and how they've
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make things happen, and Anthony Edwards, of course, is the key that

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starts the engine. Nas I asked
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to a car, which would be
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question. Now you got a lambo
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who can steer the ship. In
Anthony Networks could just sit in the back

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and be driven around and make big
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recipe for success. But they definitely
have veteran leadership as well with Mike Collie

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Junior, and I think that they
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playoffs to compete with the Oklahomas,
the Clippers, and the Denver Nuggets of

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the world. So I like the
move for Monty Morris. I think he's

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an added piece that's gonna benefit that
team. Scoopy joining us here on the

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baseline, Cali warren Shaw, be
sure to check out his YouTube channel.

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I do believe that you dropped an
exclusive interview with the mister Michael Buffer.

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I believe I think you know.
I'm just saying, Scoop beads now should

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put legendary to the left of that. Whenever you're getting a listing legendary individuals

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like Michael Buffer. I was actually
gonna take the opportunity to really check that

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out, man, because he's one
of my favorite, not just ring announcers,

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but just individuals and personalities and stuff
like that. So congratulations on being

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able to have that sit down conversation, you know, for on your YouTube

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channel. Man, Thank you,
and maybe there will be two more that

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drop tomorrow. I'll share with you
Jamal Wilkes as well as DJ Vy.

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Those will both trot tomorrow on my
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Absolutely all right, Scoop. So
like, look, man, let's talk

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about who didn't I know we're talking
about the DIDs, But I'm really curious

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from your perspective, and we can
stay on the West Western Conference and then

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maybe pivot to the East if you
believe that there's any teams who you thought

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should have made some kind of move
to be made. So I'm just curious

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from your perspective, who would you
have expected, you know, for us

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to be talking about on today's trade
deadline. I knew that the Pelicans and

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the Hawks were having some level of
conversation concerning adding a center and or a

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center or power forward, a center
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I know that the Pelicans had their
eyes on on Yaka on Coongo of the

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Hawks, but the talks never really
materialized. I know that the Pelicans' focus

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was on a backup point guard as
well as a rint protector. And I'm

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told that you know they are looking
to add a fourteenth man to the roster,

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and that's where the buyout market comes
together. I'll be honest with you.

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The three names across the league that
I think number one rim protector,

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I think Robin Lopez would fit like
a glove in that system with the Pelicans.

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But I'll add that I also feel
like Robin Lopez would fit like a

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glove in Philadelphia while while Joel Embiide
is out and now that you've add scoring

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power to their system with Healed,
that would benefit them. But I think

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in the system that the Pelicans run
quite naturally, Robert Lopez would fit.

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I think that was the surprise that
they didn't execute on the move. I

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know Wndell Carter Jr. Was another
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as far as I know, I'll
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Lakers didn't make a move. I
was not, because trading D'Angelo Russell never

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made sense to me, particularly because
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he didn't have any reps with those
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big on like, if you're going
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think you're making a run for championship, those guys have to be on one

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accord. I feel like the Lakers'
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that they that they signed in or
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They basically have been hurt. So
Torrian Prince has been in and out.

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You look at Lebron and Anthony Davis
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you know, at one point people
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job. I really think that the
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the the Nuggets and the Clippers and
the Suns, I think once healthy,

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they can compete. I'm not willing
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because they've been Teeter towering, but
I never thought that making a move for

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de Jonte Murray in the middle of
the season made sense. It's good,

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let's stay out west, you know, and then obviously you will swing over

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to the east. So I mean, just again for due diligence, we

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got to touch I guess on the
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Dubbs feel like, listen, they
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and maybe that's who's gold, but
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and that they're not usually a team
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in the middle of the season anyway. So from your standpoint, did the

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Warriors standing pat Not necessarily surprise you
do, but you just feel like that

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was the right move for them,
given given what they've accomplished and how they

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were trying to manage that team.
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talking about moving Clay Thompson, moving Clay

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Thompson, but somebody said today,
I think that was the watch they might

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have been watching, the span,
the gravity that that would take away from

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that locker room, I don't even
know. I just bringing in somebody else,

405
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.039
like, I don't know if it
brings the energy and the hoop that

406
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they might have been looking for because
Clay is such a such a centerpiece of

407
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.240
what they've done for so long,
so that to me seems is more better

408
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.319
absorbed over the course of the summer
than the middle of the season. If

409
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:37.960
they're going to try to make a
move like that, your thoughts, that's

410
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.440
an all season conversation. And I'll
add, as much as you said,

411
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he's the gravity of that team being
around them, and Draymond being a heart

412
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:53.039
and soul of that team. Again, he's a like when you're a shooter,

413
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.640
you have to have a short memory, and when you're in a slump,

414
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.279
you're in a slump. But when
you had, you had. I

415
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:07.480
think that the Warriors to me,
are like the New Age Spurs, Like

416
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:11.400
they're at some point they sneak up
on you and you're like, how did

417
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.599
they get here? So I think
they're a rhythmic shot, a run away.

418
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.720
You look at the last two seasons, like not last season, but

419
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:25.160
the season before they made it to
the finals and after guys set out for

420
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:29.200
a long period of time like they
are the half court YMCA team. I'm

421
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.000
not saying they're going to the finals, but what I'm saying is you don't

422
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:36.319
mess up chemistry like that during the
middle of the season, especially someone who's

423
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:40.400
been a cornerstone of that franchise.
That's that's a dialogue you have any offseason.

424
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.759
I never really bought into the fact
that Clay was getting moved, but

425
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:47.519
I think there are some teams across
the league that he would fit well.

426
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.759
And that's a conversation that if he
if he leaves, you revisit in the

427
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:56.400
off season. So yeah, the
Lakers and the Warriors are just those teams

428
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:03.079
that you know, they have veterans
that really kick it into a high gear

429
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.200
the second half of the season,
like and I think Denver is becoming that

430
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.400
they just look old. But even
though they're a little young with they're guys

431
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.960
that were on other teams. Phoenix
is in a similar space. So you

432
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.079
gonna see guys really kicking into the
next gear in the second half of the

433
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.680
season and maybe had a piece or
two. And that's what I look at

434
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.039
with with the Warriors specifically. Yeah, I mean, to me, I

435
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.480
think the Lakers and the Warriors are
you know, they're there buyout buddies.

436
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.680
You know, they like to you
know what I'm saying, to shop,

437
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.119
you know, and uh, you
know, get the great, get the

438
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.839
groceries at bargain rates, and there's
nothing wrong with that because some of the

439
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.400
players that they do put on their
roster are serviceable, whether it's for short

440
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:48.880
term or long term need you know. So with with that being said,

441
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:55.920
I'm just curious what happened to the
Sacramento Kings. Like, you know,

442
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.319
a year ago, this team came
out like lightning in a bottle, right,

443
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:06.720
Like they just are like, like
to me, like the next the

444
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:10.640
next level Warriors, right we dubbed
them as the next Warriors two point zero

445
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:15.319
or whatever. And you would have
thought that, you know, given what

446
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.160
the roster is and this team has
struggled, they're not they don't look nearly

447
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.759
as crisp as they did last year, you would still think that they would

448
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:28.839
have to tweak that team if there's
an expectation one to reposition themselves back to

449
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:32.160
where they are and then two to
not fall off from what they you know,

450
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:36.079
built up if the perception is that
they're not going to be, you

451
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.680
know, looked as overachievers. So
what does your take about the fact that

452
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.799
the Kings really didn't make any any
meaning? Is it more that they're really

453
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.720
confident they just figure this thing out, or should it be a reason to

454
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:52.400
be concerned. I get the sense
that Kuzma, who was on their dartboard,

455
00:32:52.079 --> 00:33:01.960
couldn't come at the price one two
injuries to Sabonis and the Aaron Fox

456
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:08.599
and others has kind of been like
just the level of inconsistency or people not

457
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:16.359
Like I never bought into the Warriors
the second the next coming I actually looked

458
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:20.079
at I've always over the last year, have said this, I look at

459
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:27.000
this Akramental Kings as Denver light more
than I did a second coming of the

460
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.440
Warriors, And I think I look
at them similarly to how I looked at

461
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:36.720
the Knicks when they made the playoffs
for the first time in the last like

462
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:38.960
when they played against the Hawks and
the playoffs and the Hawks and the Knicks

463
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:43.200
had the same exact record, and
they excited a lot of people. And

464
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.200
then I feel like the last couple
of years they Teeter Tyler and then along

465
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:52.319
came O Giananobe, like it's gonna
take a level of a name to come

466
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.119
in a defensive stop for to come
in, Like I think that's what happens.

467
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.559
I kind of look at the Atlanta
Hawks that way, like the Hawks

468
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.759
were this close from going to the
finals, and they were young squad,

469
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:08.880
and then it's de Jonte Murray coming
in and like, I just remember that

470
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.239
team going toe for toe with the
Bucks and they just didn't they didn't hold

471
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.840
on into the end. I look
at Sacramento the same way. I think

472
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:23.880
they're a player away, like a
third player away from being combative. So

473
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:27.639
let's swing it out to the Eastern
Conference here a little bit now, And

474
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.679
just from the aspect is because I
got to ask, have the Bulls just

475
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.760
trapped themselves? Like I think?
Now? Obviously Levigne got injured, they

476
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.360
weren't able to move him. But
Drummond had a lot of interest from what

477
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.400
I've from when I've heard or read, and he's played well when given the

478
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.679
opportunity minutes. They started double bigs. More recently against the Minnesota Timberwolves the

479
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.280
other night, Ucevic and Drummond started
and they both found a way to play

480
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:53.400
well. Now, again, that's
because Minnesota is a big team. So

481
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:58.360
I don't know if if Donovan will
do that every single night, But what

482
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:00.320
are their Bulls doing? Like?
I love the season, Kobe White has

483
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.079
had love it. I think he's
just been been amazing this year, but

484
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.920
they're a ten seed and I don't
know that there's a whole lot of upward

485
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.840
trajectory for them. Did they missed
the boat by not making a move or

486
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.800
is your sense like, hey,
they're just trying to compete with this roster

487
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.639
and see where it goes. I
think the Bulls's biggest hurdle has been the

488
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.639
fact that Lonzo Ball has been out
and he was such a significant part to

489
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:29.800
this Bulls rebuilding. And I think
also, as you're asking me this question,

490
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:35.639
it reminds me of the trade deadline
a couple of years ago where the

491
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:44.039
Pelicans and the Bulls were having a
conversation about Lonzo and ultimately the Bulls waited

492
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.719
until the offseason to bring in Lonzo
and they kept Kobe. Imagine if they

493
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.039
did, this season would have been
a lot worse. I swear they would

494
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.920
have been like that. They would
have had the fortieth worst record in the

495
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.480
NBA, and it's not even forty
teams. Like I think, when you

496
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.639
look at the Bulls and you look
at I think the other she was this.

497
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:04.840
If you looked at the beginning of
the season, there were many out

498
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:08.840
there who believed that the Knicks and
the Miami Heat would have been buyers at

499
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:13.800
the trade deadline or at some point
during the season for DeMar DeRozan. And

500
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.880
what happened was Terry Roseer went to
Miami and o Giana Noobi went to the

501
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.159
New York Knicks, And so the
dialogue then shifted because the Bulls started to

502
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.599
be a little bit more competitive,
and then you looked at the Bulls and

503
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:29.199
Zach Levine and the Lakers was something
we talked about, and then he got

504
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.119
hurt again, and so now that
conversation about the Lakers and the Bulls was

505
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.840
kind of dead. The other thing
is I think that the Bulls waiting until

506
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.880
the off season makes more sense because
again I go back to what I said

507
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:49.239
about chessboards, that conversation about Levine
could be or revisit this offseason. I

508
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:53.280
think that when you look at the
talent that they have on the floor,

509
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:59.119
their talent is good, just not
together and not on that team because they've

510
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:04.880
been hurt. I think that the
Bulls and the Washington Wizards are very similar

511
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.679
situations. They have certain guys that
are names, but together on a team,

512
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:15.039
they just are not good. But
I think a la carte they benefit

513
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:19.519
other teams. I think Levine and
his health is a red flag for some

514
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.880
teams because it seems like he's a
name, he's got, he's been an

515
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.880
All Star, but his level of
staying healthy and consistency has been lacking.

516
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:32.320
DeMar Derozanto me I can build around
him, which I could build around him,

517
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:37.280
But I really think that for the
Bulls, their biggest portion is the

518
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.920
fact that Lonzo Ball a quarterback.
Eat. I know that's a word that's

519
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.599
used negatively, but a quarterback type
of point guard that you can use in

520
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:50.440
their system would have done wonders for
him for that team had they stayed healthy,

521
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.679
and that's just not been the case. I think they revisit something this

522
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:59.199
offseason. What I don't know Scoopy
joining us here on the baseline Calie warren

523
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:07.679
Shaw discussing the hot button tops of
the NBA are trade deadline discussion. So

524
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:15.519
school, you, you basically tell
me this team didn't do nothing was probably

525
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:23.000
the best thing that happened for him, East or West? You tell him

526
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:28.519
Ask me that question again, which
team that didn't do anything? It was

527
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.559
the best move made the team that
did not do anything, and it was

528
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.559
good for them to not do something. You know, sometimes you gotta feel

529
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.159
like you got to get in the
mix and then whatever it is that you're

530
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.199
doing really doesn't bowl well for you, whether it be on or off the

531
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:46.840
court. Probably of the Orlando Magic
we talked about every other hot button team.

532
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.079
I think they're a young team to
watch, and like I mentioned before,

533
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:58.559
you have a rising star and Pallo
Manketto, You've got some other pieces

534
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.159
around them. I think, you
know, the biggest the biggest thing that

535
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:07.360
that that's been talked about with the
Magic was Wendell Carter Junior. And I

536
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.480
think defensively they'll at least be decent. I don't think they're going to the

537
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:14.800
finals. I don't think they go
to the second round. But I think

538
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:19.400
I think Orlando didn't really need to
give Wendell to another team to make them

539
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.920
better. I like that call,
you know. I think a lot of

540
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.880
Orlando Magic fans on our timelines where
like, hey, do something they wanted

541
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:29.639
to, you know, backup point
guards or whatever. And I think in

542
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.960
essence that brings us to me in
the next part of the conversation is the

543
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:37.079
buyouts. Now, two things happened
for me that I was like, just

544
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:44.039
just like that like just peace Killian
Hayes, just dropped by the Pistons.

545
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:49.000
Just peace out, James Bookknight,
peace out in Charlotte. And then,

546
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.360
unfortunately, I think what didn't happen
for PJ. Tucker on the Clippers.

547
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.599
He's pieced in. He hasn't found
his way out just yet. Your thoughts

548
00:39:55.639 --> 00:40:00.760
on this potential buyout market and some
of the guys that might that might be

549
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.039
available for teams that didn't make a
movement as yet. I think Joe Harris

550
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:12.039
will be the thought process of some
and he has a relationship with both Kyrie

551
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:17.079
and and with Lebron does is that
someone that you bring in over there?

552
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:22.239
He also has a relationship with Kevin
Durant. I'm not sure what there.

553
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:24.360
I know, I'm not sure how
many guys they have only active Roston now,

554
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:29.719
so don't quote me, but you
know, Utah Watson Nabi was not

555
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.079
a fit. He was moved.
You thought that he'd get you some premium

556
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:37.000
three point shooting. Maybe Phoenix would
work. LA makes sense on that front.

557
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.320
I think that's the biggest name that
I saw for a team with with

558
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:46.639
with Championship aspirations and Kyle Lowry again, I see Philadelphia or Los Angeles chasing

559
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:52.599
him, but a guy from North
Philly, Cardinal Docker, He's own Villanova's

560
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.159
own Philadelphia makes the most sense to
me. For for Kyle Lowry if he

561
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:58.920
reaches a bio with the Charlotte Hornets, and what do you think is gonna

562
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.400
happen with Dennis Schroeder Because I know
we haven't made much a discussion, but

563
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.599
if the Lakers are are thinking about
trying to do something, do you think

564
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:09.159
that Shrewder stands pat or do you
think that he also could possibly UH be

565
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.679
out buy out friendly and he would
want to return back to La La Land.

566
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.440
Well, I definitely think the Nets
are trying to build uhil build blocks

567
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.800
like Tetris and UH stack a lot
of chips as far as just their future

568
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:28.719
goes and building around Michael Bridges,
Dennis Smith Junior and others. There's a

569
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.639
lot of guard on that Nets team, and I don't think while the Lakers

570
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:36.519
would definitely be a team of interests, he wanted to resign with him and

571
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:42.280
he ultimately went in another direction.
I also look at other teams out there

572
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.960
that are in need of a point
guard, like a like Aay Young,

573
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:55.239
a Pelicans team like UH I know
that Dante Exhem in Dallas makes is a

574
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.119
de facto point guard, but I
just think they got too many guards in

575
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.320
Dallas. So Dallas may not be
the best fit. But New Orleans would

576
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:09.880
be a fit. To me,
the Clippers would be a fit. Those

577
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.840
are the two teams that stand out
to me right now. Maybe Houston,

578
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:20.400
but but ultimately yeah, Victor Oladipo
I think was also brought out. I'm

579
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:24.360
not sure what the market is for
him. And you know Indiana would return

580
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:29.079
there would be great, but I
don't know how the relationship was with is

581
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:32.960
with India after he left. So
but but as far as your question about

582
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.960
Dennis Shooter, either LA team would
make sense to me if he decides to

583
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:43.880
get some sort of buy out with
the Brooklyn Mets scool before we let you

584
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.320
get out of here. Just you
know, is there anything else that you

585
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:50.320
can expect to see any other names? Again? A touched on PJ.

586
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.079
Tucker, I spent your dinuity potentially
rumor to the Lakers. I think as

587
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.599
we're going on and people are still
getting waived and dropped, you know,

588
00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:00.320
as we're recording, some names are
still flying off the board. But you

589
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:01.480
know, is there anybody else that
you'd like to see, you know,

590
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:06.000
maybe land somewhere else. You mentioned
Marcus Morris as well too, you know,

591
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.800
any potential landing SPUs for some of
those guys. I can't think of

592
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:12.280
it any right now. It's for
a long day, but if I have

593
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.679
anything else, that's what the NBA
does to you, Scoop Yeah, to

594
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.599
specifically tell you, thank you,
thank you for having me on your show

595
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:22.960
though, No, absolutely, Man, listen, it's been great, you

596
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:27.519
know, to be able to have
you on board man again. We you

597
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.920
know, we totally applaud the efforts
you. You know, you're out there,

598
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.480
you're doing your thing. You're you're
marrying the game, you know what

599
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.360
I'm saying with the culture and it's
awesome to see, and uh, we

600
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:42.360
want to continue to support that platform
as well too, Man to you know,

601
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.639
by all means, Man, let
people know what you got going on.

602
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:47.599
I know you mentioned that you have
two new interviews coming down the pike

603
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.039
again, to make sure you let
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604
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.760
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605
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to the Scoopy Radio podcast the most
streaming platforms. And yeah, a couple

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of interviews dropping tomorrow Djvy Jabol Wilkes. We dropped one with Michael Buffer early

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this week a couple of weeks ago, Prince said, Michael Jackson Son.

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So a lot of you know,
overlaying crossover into other things, but keep

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it locked Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, everything in between. Thank you brothers

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for having me once again. Absolutely
thanks for hopping on board with us.

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Brandon Man, best of luck,
brother. Likewise, you too, keep

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shying. Yes, indeed, mister
Shaw look man, a lot of movement,

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not not not you know, listen, not a lot of big names.

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But I think it's more so the
teams, the teams that did make

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those moves, And I think it
shared up a lot of what we've been

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talking about through the course of the
first half, you know, of this

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seat of this seat of the season. Yeah, if these teams are really

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serious, if they truly believe there's
an opportunity, a pathway to probably get

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into you know, the NBA Finals
that they're gonna need to utilize the trade

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deadline smartly, not over extend themselves. And I think we saw that with

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a lot of the teams that participated
in making the kind of moves that they've

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made. Yeah, I think what
ended up happening is like, again,

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no big, big names on trade
deadline Day. A lot of the work

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was done earlier in the year,
as I said in the outset. But

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one thing I will say about the
Knicks specifically, because I think a lot

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of them are saying that they are
the winners of the day. In a

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lot of ways, they are because
they've still preserved CP flexibility. They still

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have all of their first round draft
picks. They didn't move at a first

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round draft pick in any of these
deals, and they can still see how

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things go. So I'm excited for
them. The Cavs standing PAT, I

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thought was an interesting situation, but
they're just so hot right now, so

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you know, they feel like they
needed to do anything significant. The Nuggets

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stand pat as well. They're defending
champions. Yes, they don't have Bruce

635
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Brown anymore, but you know they
feel like, hey, they'll they'll be

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able to figure it out. Bruce
Brown doesn't move from Toronto, so that

637
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Toronto keeps that that chip and that
opportunity to move him maybe you know,

638
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right as we're getting into free agency, because they will have a team option

639
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on him, just so a lot
of like little machinations. But as you

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alluded to, this is a very
very wide open situation with you know,

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moves that will be interested to see
and with now the trades trade dayline passed

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us and all start on the horizon. This is one of the reasons the

643
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MBA did it this way because now
you'll have all that rest. Right,

644
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they'll be like roughly like nine days
without actual NBA games at some point,

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and so yes, some guys will
go on vacation and they'll be in the

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Islands and so forth and so forth. But for coaches and players who stay,

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they'll get to be able to get
some practice time. And for some

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of these new players they'll be able
to actually learn their teammates some as well.

649
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And I think that's a very very
huge thing. I think the worst

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thing for the Milwaukee Bucks is the
All Star break because now Doc Rivers is

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supposed to coach it, so he
doesn't get to take the weekend off,

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if you will, whatever. He's
got to be doing that, and he

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has still be a couple of days
afterwards. But to me. The All

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Star break is a crucial point now
coming after the trade deadline, because it

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allows teams and some players who did
get moved or have new pieces, allows

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them to get acclimated a little bit
in the throes of the season. I

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supposed where you wouldn't have that practice
signed before. I will say, though,

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that to your point about Doc Rivers, I think this will actually help

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him. I think it will benefit
him in some ways because it keeps him

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around basketball. I think there's something
to be said when you remove yourself or

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you've been removed from that element as
a coach because you're doing a lot of

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media like type things and not are
being and not being invested in the coaching

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aspect of things. So I think
he uses this opportunity to really observe.

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You know, listen, this is
why Doc Rivers is always going to be

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regarded one of the great coaches you
know, in NBA history, regardless of

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what people may say, regardless of
you know, what his record is reflective

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of in the playoffs and things of
that nature. He's a man that's prepared.

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He's shown you know, fifty eight
percent winning percentage as an NBA coach

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that you know, that's nothing to
sniff at, and it's taking advantage of

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those opportunities that present themselves where where
most people consider it as downtime, that's

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probably prime time for Doc Rivers to
prep and prepare and get these guys ready

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for the quick turnaround that's gonna be
necessary for this Bucks team to re supplant

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themselves again to be the team to
beat in the Eastern Conference. So yeah,

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yeah, and I'm gonna, you
know, we'll closee on the Bucks

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note. I guess there's some degree
I'm gonna I'm gonna expect it. You

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know, I'm not sourced, you're
not sourci or whatever, but we like

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we take stock of what's going on
in the league. If p J.

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Tucker ultimately gets a buy out from
from the Clippers in his interesting situations,

679
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.719
since they're showing that he's you know, he's not playing, but they're winning

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without him, I think a return
to Milwaukee would be just what the doctor

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ordered. I think he would potentially
go there. And I know everyone's gonna

682
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say, oh, he'll go to
the Lakers and you know some of those

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you know, fancier teams, But
to me, a return to Milwaukee makes

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a lot of sense. And yes
they have j Crowder still earning like that

685
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too. But I think that's the
spy. He would be comfortable and going

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into or or God forbid for for
Boston's fans, he goes back to Miami.

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I think it's going to be a
retread. I don't think it'd be

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a brand new team that he hasn't
played for before. He's going to go

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somewhere where he's comfortable, all right, So PJ. Tucker Watch, that's

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what we will be on. You
know what I'm saying. Yeah, I

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00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.599
mean listen, and it's a The
guy's a bulldog. You can't tell me

692
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.880
you don't like bulldogs when it's playoff
time, Yes, sir, Yes,

693
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sir. Man so a lot of
fun stuff, man, a lot of

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fun stuff. Bulldog and brothers like
them George town Hoys did once again.

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Man, we like to thank our
man Scoop Bee, who was burning midnight

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oil and toughed it out to jump
on board with us. Man. Just

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really appreciate him taking the time to
help us break down the trade deadline.

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And as always, my brother appreciate
you. You know what I'm saying,

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uh, putting it, making it
happen. I'm saying and again for us,

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uh, you know, laying it
down and discussing what needs to be

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discussed. Sir, I gotta lay
you gotta utilize our connections. And you

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know Scoop Bee has been rocking us
for a little while too, so you

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00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.039
know, glad to see that he's
still doing his thing, you know,

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00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.559
in the ethos outside of even sports
and entertainment, just you know, has

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has has has it baled in really
and truly and for us, we hope

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your friends listeners, we hope you
enjoyed this episode of the Baseline Trade Deadline

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edition. You know, it wasn't
an emergency podcast we hadn't planned, but

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I think it was enough meat on
the bone for us to have this conversation.

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So again, shout out to Scoop
Bee, Brandon Robinson absolutely for the

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Baseline, Calie Warren, y'all,
we appreciate you guys, thanks for hopping

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on board with us this week.
To catch up with you next time.

