WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.439 --> 00:00:08.439 This is the baseline discussing the hot button topics of the NBA. Welcome everybody 2 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:12.439 here, Tune to the baseline, Kylie Warrenshaw discussing the hot button topics of 3 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:16.519 the NBA. And we are on and popping. You know what time it 4 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:20.440 is. It is NBA Media Day. And you know what that means. 5 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:25.039 If it's NBA Media Day. We are only weeks away from the start of 6 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:32.039 the NBA season. And man on man, NNBA Media Day just never never 7 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:37.000 ceases to fail, just always ceases to amaze. And we got one of 8 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:42.280 the hardest working people out there repping it, holding it down and always winds 9 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:46.719 up in the mix of chaos. What do I mean by that? I'm 10 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:50.320 gonna let my man share those thoughts when we have our conversations about what happened 11 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:52.719 with NBA Media Day. But man, let me go and roll out the 12 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:57.159 red carpet to my right here. Man's been doing this for ooooh so long. 13 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:00.000 My brother from another mother, mister Warrenshaw, wrapping out of Fort Law 14 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:02.640 to Florida. What's good, mister Shaw? I know you are burning the 15 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:07.120 midnight or brother all over NBA Media Day down in Miami. What's good? 16 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:11.359 Man? You know what it is, brother like when media Day is live 17 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:15.120 and and that's popping, like that gets to blood pumping. So I'm excited 18 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:19.200 about that. But yes, a little a little fatigued, you know what 19 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:21.200 I mean. I feel like I'm doing the Jimmy Butler and the bubble in 20 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:25.079 the bubble right now, bent over, feel like a mccarrying a lot over 21 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:26.840 the last couple of weeks here. But this was a good one, man. 22 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.359 A lot of fun over at Miami. Shut out the heat organization for 23 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:33.239 letting your boy in there. But a lot to discuss. You know, 24 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:34.680 we had our burning questions, you know, not too long ago, so 25 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.959 we got some answers to some of our own burning questions. I was one 26 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:42.400 thousand percent wrong on one thing, so we'll talk about that. But a 27 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:45.200 lot of great stuff to cover this week, my guy, absolutely man a 28 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:49.760 lot of stuff. So NBA Media Day, you know, clearly had its 29 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:55.959 moments. But obviously my man Shaw was bearing witness to some some some interesting 30 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:59.280 stuff that was happening down in Miami. Don't know if people catching heat stroke 31 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.599 when they got there, or the camera flashes just blinded their mentality somewhat, 32 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:07.519 but I'm sure you'll get ready to talk about some interesting, interesting things that 33 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:09.800 you saw as far as the Miami Heat Media Day, and we've got a 34 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:14.400 lot to cover as far as Buck Sixers, Lakers, Pelicans, and a 35 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:16.479 lot of stuff happened in the Grizz clips and Nuggets. Man. So all 36 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:20.960 of that and a big bag of chips for you to snack on when we're 37 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.919 talking about NBA Media Day. 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And 46 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:53.759 also the plethora of great content and story tellers and personalities and show hosts. 47 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:58.159 Man, we got them all man. Great shows coming in on the fall 48 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:04.520 with some great guests, veteran guests, dudes or connected up. They rolling 49 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.960 with us as well to man family is getting bigger. Man, We're building 50 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:12.000 an empire out there in nineteen media group, and we're we're just always proud 51 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:17.159 and the static to have it happen again for another year. So without being 52 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:22.360 with that being said, let's just get right into a Shaw Miami Heat Day 53 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.639 and we're gonna, you know, lay right into it right you were there 54 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:32.680 for the Miami Heat media day. Obviously a lot of people are are coming 55 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:38.439 in with expectations about what didn't happen for the Miami Heat because this has been 56 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:43.080 supposed to be the summer that the of the Heat acquiring Damian Lillard, and 57 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.560 if people have been paying attention to Damian Lillard, his talents are now in 58 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:53.360 Milwaukee, and it to me, I think, you know what really sticks 59 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:59.240 out more than anything is what mentality are guys coming in when some of those 60 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:02.199 players know that they were probably a part of those trade rumors. What's them 61 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:06.599 mentality coming in with guys knowing that because that Damian a little deal didn't go 62 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:11.080 through, that they have to be confident and sell people on the idea that 63 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:15.280 this team is just as equally good to get to the Eastern Conference Finals like 64 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.560 they did a year ago. You know, it's it's just so many moving 65 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:25.399 parts, and part of the media day is really just getting a preliminary feel 66 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:30.959 for what these guys kind of decompressed in the off season and said to themselves, 67 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.759 Okay, this is what we're gonna do in order to approach this upcoming 68 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:38.279 season, so that you guys understand, you know what level we are on. 69 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.439 Yeah, well, with Miami, they're always going to be a proud 70 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:46.000 franchise. And one of the things that I think even those connected to that 71 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.360 media knew what it's going to be said is Spolture specifically, Hey, despite 72 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:53.920 any everything, we have enough. We have enough. We always find a 73 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:58.319 way. That's our mantra, etcetera, etcetera. They Heat are famous for 74 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.879 some of their kind of slogan and colloquialisms that they utilize, even outside of 75 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:05.920 just the normal Heat culture that everybody else kind of knows. I'll kind of 76 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:09.920 run through it for the most part. Yeah, we were all waiting to 77 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:13.399 see how some players would react based on some of the trade rumors, even 78 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:16.600 how Jimmy would respond. I think understanding you know that Dame did not end 79 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.560 up on the Miami heat you know, Butler went took to Twitter and or 80 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:25.120 Instagram rather think initially and said, oh, you know, and investigate the 81 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:29.680 Bucks for you know, collusion or whatever it was. But going back to 82 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:31.800 Spow, I think he said, you know, at one point, these 83 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.519 guys you need to be professionals. You know, this is just part of 84 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:38.920 the league, and you know, having been through it, I think they're 85 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:42.759 better for it, and not that he feels like, oh, they should 86 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.160 have to go through this thing all the time, but adversity is kind of 87 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.399 the Miami heat Way, and then overcoming that adversity is really what is more 88 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:53.480 so the Miami heat Way, if you will. So he's challenging his guys 89 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:57.800 in essence to put whatever conversations and rumors behind them and kind of keep it 90 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:00.920 pushing. So that's what spos mess was. I think from the outset then 91 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:04.720 players kind of started to roll in here and there. Obviously by now, 92 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:08.319 if you're an NBA fan and you're listening to our show, I'm sure he 93 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:12.920 saw Tommy Butler and his EMO look, and that was a whole another situation 94 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:16.240 in itself. So I would challenge you to go elsewhere for that content. 95 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.839 But yeah, that was wild. You sure it's a challenge. I don't 96 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:23.439 think too many people are gonna be challenged by that. Well, yeah, 97 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.199 not a challenge. But if that's what you're looking for. I will say 98 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.360 though, I will say though, Charlomagne and God might have a new donkey 99 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.879 foot of the day if he has, if he hasn't already dubbed dude on, 100 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:39.839 they're getting ready donkey to day. I'll give you this tidbit. All 101 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:41.639 I can tell you. I won't tell you. There was a member of 102 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:45.879 the media who saw it before the rest of us saw. And one member 103 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:50.800 of the media came back in just with expletives holy oh my, like couldn't 104 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:57.120 believe what they had just witnessed. And then we were privied as Vanilli would 105 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:01.879 be proud though somebody, well, it could have been it could have been 106 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:06.240 it could have been a hairstylist. The man would like, you know, 107 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:10.279 my mother would would what my what? What my a if I were to 108 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:12.680 work something like that too. So teammates are not all on board. But 109 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.560 anyway, one of the things that he said that was important though, was 110 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.680 Hey, you know, we'll be in the finals we'll be there again. 111 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:25.399 All of you will be surprised righteous stories now and so you know, that's 112 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:29.800 just you know, quintessential Jimmy Butler confidence, and I think that's why the 113 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:33.199 Heat in general feel the way that they ultimately do. Before I let you 114 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:36.199 jump back in, I just kind of wanted to touch on Tyler Hero specifically 115 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:41.040 because that was obviously the biggest name rumored to be you know, moved on 116 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:46.360 and from my person I'm pretty interesting. I'm you know, say that again. 117 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:51.879 Yeah, it's some pretty interesting quotes. So he did, and listen, 118 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:55.439 I'm not connected. So I want to be clear here on our show 119 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.079 and for anybody who might be checking us out for the first time. We 120 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.040 got some nice traffic on our YouTube. Some the postings and videos from from 121 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:07.000 from Heat Me today. Hero seemed to be just putting on a brave face, 122 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:09.319 and I can't blame him for that. He's saying all the right things. 123 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:13.279 He was very i'd say, even you were saying all the right things 124 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.839 until he made his comment about Portland. But we can get into that. 125 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.480 Well, well, yeah I saw that, you know, shout out to 126 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:24.240 five reasons I he said he was just he was just doing what he needed 127 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.519 to do. Very comedic, I think on social media as well to even 128 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:33.240 leading up into it. But to me, it seemed like a little bit 129 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.240 of you know, for lack of a better phrase, it just can't figure 130 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.080 it out another word right now, but a little bit of a front. 131 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:41.240 But what else was he going to do? So it's not a knock, 132 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:43.720 you know, is he going to come here an expletive? You know the 133 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:48.480 organization Barry Jackson, you know, well known heat rider asked him and kind 134 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:50.279 of fed him the answer at the end. But he's like, well, 135 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.759 when two almost got traded from the Dolphins, you know, he was asked, 136 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:54.320 you know, do you feel wanted? And he said, I don't 137 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:56.919 feel not wanted. And that's what Harold said. I said, I don't 138 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.679 feel I don't feel not wanted. So he was walking around the arena, 139 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:03.480 you know, when he walked in, he was like singing a little bit, 140 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:07.960 trying to be jovial or whatever. But I think it was like you 141 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:11.879 know when people have the happy face on and they're like they're screaming behind and 142 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:15.879 if you ever seen that meme, that's what I That was the impression I 143 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.120 got a Tyler hero today. But shout out to him for being the ultimate 144 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.159 professional. I think it's going to actually have a pretty productive season because I 145 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.360 think he's got a lot of people that he wants to prove wrong. Yeah, 146 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:28.919 look, there's no question he's gonna have a productive season. I think 147 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.759 there's opportunities that opened up. The only question is is Canny stay healthy. 148 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.799 I don't think anybody's ever wondered whether or not he's gonna be a really productive 149 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:43.200 dude for this for the for the Miami Heat. It's will his productivity benefit 150 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.159 the Miami Heat or will it be like what we often call guys who put 151 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:50.120 up really great numbers, but it doesn't amount or doesn't attribute to anything for 152 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.480 a team, empty calorie stats, right, And I think that's part of 153 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:58.960 the mont that I think that's part of the stigma that sticks to Tyler Hero, 154 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:07.399 electrifying talented player, but it doesn't it doesn't amount to anything when it 155 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.720 really has to be tied to something significant to the Heat success because the Heat 156 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.519 has proven they can go far without Tyler Hero. It's interesting how we were 157 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:20.320 talking about in the NBA Finals. It's that, well, you know they're 158 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.440 gonna need like a Tyler Hero, you know, to to be able to 159 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:28.240 at least keep up with the Denver Nuggets. I venture to say, when 160 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.159 the Denver Nuggets are on one, you need ten Tyler Heroes, you know 161 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.799 what I'm saying for them to be able to stick with the Denver Nuggets. 162 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:39.759 But part of that is because we haven't seen Tyler hero in that situation really 163 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.240 elevate and shine. He has his moments, but it doesn't always happen like 164 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.919 that. Now, with that being said, part of why I think a 165 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.720 lot of that happens is when he makes the kind of comments that he makes. 166 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.279 You know, if you want to throw shade at the fact that your 167 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:56.840 name was being bantered about for trade rooms, that's fine, But why are 168 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:01.799 you throwing shade at the Portland Trailblazers. They know what they want, they 169 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.360 didn't want you. What does it matter? You know what I'm saying. 170 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.320 You can throw shade to everyone else that you want. You won't throw shade 171 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.159 at the team who still has you, So that's saying something. But you're 172 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:18.039 gonna throw shade at the Portland Trailblazers, who, by all accounts, what 173 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.000 they were saying was no matter what you're trying to package us, it isn't 174 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.120 enough for the type of player that we've had on our team for almost ten 175 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.679 damn years. What I'm saying, so, if I'm Tyler Hero, I 176 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.879 should feel some kind of way not about the Portland Trailblazers, but about how 177 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:37.039 I am not at a level where I should be compared to someone like Damian 178 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.679 Lillard. If I if there's gonna be a package being made for me to 179 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.120 be sent to somewhere like he isn't on that status where you're gonna value what 180 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:48.159 Tyler Hero could truly bring to the table for another basketball team when you're talking 181 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.600 about superstars being moved from one team to another. So all I'm saying is, 182 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:54.080 you know, when it comes to the Tyler Hero situation, and again, 183 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:58.440 Media Day brings us out of people. It gives them an opportunity to 184 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.879 throw these little subtle jabs. But weed as a media and also a lot 185 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:07.639 of other people from other teams are keeping receipts. So I hope Tyler Hero 186 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:09.960 is ready to back all of this nonsense up, because it ain't like dudes 187 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:15.120 ain't gonna remember what he said and not give him the business when they step 188 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.080 on his court, or they or he travels to their court. Yeah, 189 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:22.840 I mean, well, it's a hard situation for somebody like him to be 190 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.440 in. The young guy and while it seems that he'd have put him in 191 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:31.240 trade rumors for seemingly two years in a row, so doesn't feel a sense 192 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.840 of stability within the same organization. And then Portland blatantly, if not verbally, 193 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:39.720 indicates that he wasn't what they wanted to in essence to be able to 194 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.720 be a part of their rebuild in any capacity, and for in a lot 195 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.000 of ways, you can't blame them for that. So we can talk about 196 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.399 Proland later on if he'd be But I agree with you in terms of, 197 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:52.639 like, he doesn't necessarily need to throw a jab at them for not wanting 198 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.200 to make a deal centered around him. That is a little weird. I'd 199 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.799 even need to kind of go back to see how that question was phrased and 200 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:01.840 know why he answered in that way. But it was a sound bite, 201 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:03.919 you know, and I want to read too much into it. Final thing 202 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.320 I wanted to say, though, and just just for food for thought, 203 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.720 if you're a Heat fan or just kind of even you know, watching this 204 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:16.000 organization, weird vibes around Kyle Lowry today really really strange vibes. How we 205 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:20.360 didn't seem like he was totally enamored to be there himself, didn't really speak 206 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:26.840 to anybody today. He showed up and then he left literally within five minutes. 207 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.519 And that's all I'll say about it for now. But watch Kyle Lowry 208 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.600 and whatever situations going on with him here on the Miami Heat. Well, 209 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.120 and I think this and it goes to something that we were discussing, you 210 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.519 know when it comes to the Miami Heat, because it's it's an interesting dynamic 211 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:43.519 that is that is happening right now right. I mean, if you're the 212 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.879 Miami Heat, you know one of the reasons why you got Kyle Lowry is 213 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:54.320 you got a veteran championship winning guard who is a pretty much a bulldog. 214 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.840 He's a he's a pit bull. Despite what you might say, he may 215 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:00.320 not look like he's the best in shape, made it look like he's the 216 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.000 most athletic of the guards. And obviously, you know, the trend in 217 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.679 the NBA is the guards need to show some level of athleticism and versatility or 218 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:11.200 if nothing else, can shoot the damn basketball from the other side of the 219 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.240 court. Kyle Lowry is none of those things. But what Kyle Lowry gives 220 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.440 you is a lot of heart. He gives you a lot of effort, 221 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:18.559 and he also gives you a lot of accountability, you know what I'm saying. 222 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:22.799 And at times, I'm sure the Miami Heat were very grateful, especially 223 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:28.360 during critical situations down that stretch to get them in the playoffs, having a 224 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.399 Kyle Lowry. That being said, Shaw, the one thing that I think 225 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.200 you will always understand when it comes to the Miami Heat. And I'm sure 226 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.840 you've seen it and you see how it operates out there, there are those 227 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.919 that are with the program and those who are not with the program. And 228 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.600 I just have this feeling, this inkling that when it comes to Kyle Lowry, 229 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:50.000 who at times can be very quirky and has you know, does things 230 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.559 his way or whatever, he's just at a point where he's just not with 231 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:56.720 the program. And you only do these type of things unless you, unless 232 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:01.399 you, unless you truly believe that. Listen, if I'm playing or I'm 233 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.559 not playing, I'm good. You know I got my chip and they're still 234 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.559 searching for theirs. So if I'm the Miami Heat, I'm not saying you 235 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.480 know, look you because you know they're not going to tolerate that. If 236 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:15.879 that's the case, you know, there's a couple let me just interrupt. 237 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.039 From this standpoint, I think I can go above what I saw today. 238 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:22.840 They'll have a whole training camp, he'll probably talk to media and maybe all 239 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.360 of this is situated. But and media day, for especially a veteran like 240 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.840 himself, is not there, not the proverbial cup of tea. I can 241 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:33.360 say this, you know, with pretty self confident or safe confidence that you 242 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:35.720 know, I'm not divulging any secrets. Kevin Hole was walking around. He's 243 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.080 just like, man, it's the same questions over and over again. But 244 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.679 he still spoke to people, right, And Kevin Love has been in the 245 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.159 years in the league how many years? But he literally that came out of 246 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.919 his mouth, and you know, but not in a like, oh, 247 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.360 like this disparaging way. It's just but it was like, hey, you 248 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.360 know, in the Hampshire will I think Larry just might be done with the 249 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:54.759 whole media day process. So if he ends up talking to you know, 250 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:00.320 local media in a more normal setting after practice and so forth and so forth, 251 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:02.679 maybe this is nothing. It was just really weird vibes today, and 252 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.879 that's all I'll say. I know, but again, I'm just alluding to 253 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:07.919 the fact that the Heat how a way of doing things. It's not like 254 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.279 Kyle Lowry isn't aware of those things. So if he's acting out in this 255 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:15.360 kind of way, if he's handling things in this kind of way, let's 256 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.480 just say that he's at a tipping point and it may not contort with the 257 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:22.720 way the Miami Heat handles things. So if something does extend itself from that, 258 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.639 Shaw, I'm just saying, it wouldn't surprise me because you're not talking 259 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.600 about Tyler Hero. You're talking about Kyle Lowry, and Kyle Lowry has got 260 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.799 at least a little bit you know Cachet sort of speak that if he's pulling 261 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:40.240 this, it's because he's at a point where he's just not following the protocol 262 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:41.720 of the way certain things are done, you know what I mean. And 263 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:48.320 that's fine. It's obviously he's choosing this path and there's consequences good and bad. 264 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:53.000 This could wind up being a bad consequence for him and the Miami Heat. 265 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.519 If the Miami Heat choose to do something, it could be a good 266 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.879 consequence because maybe by doing it. He's putting you know, he's drawing a 267 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.559 line in the sand about where certain things need to be with him and the 268 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:07.200 Miami Heat to be. You know, in symmetry going into the season, 269 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:12.359 what you can't have is this ongoing and it not lend itself to being spoken 270 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:18.960 to, right because guess who's gonna speak for you? The media? And 271 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:21.599 I don't think if you're Kyle Lowry or if you're the Miami Heat, you 272 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:26.319 want the media speaking on your behalf your tune to the baseline kyl Lee Warrenshaw 273 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:30.759 discussing the hot button topics other nbas. We're getting into our media day coverage. 274 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:33.599 Got a lot to get into. We got the Celtics, Bucks, 275 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:37.559 Sixers, Lakers, Pelicans. You know, a lot to get into, 276 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:40.480 man, and you don't want to miss out. But before we do that, 277 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.799 let's remember that if you're looking for the ultimate destination for NBA gear, 278 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:47.839 especially with the NBA season coming up in a couple of weeks, look no 279 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:51.400 further than the NBA Store. 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Once again, it's Bitle 301 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:30.039 Backslash blue View nineteen and any purchases made with that link. As always, 302 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.839 you're supporting the Baseline and A nineteen media group and we will always thank you 303 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:37.880 for your patronage. Back to our coverage Shaw as it pertains to the NBA 304 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:41.920 Media Day. Obviously a lot going on over the past weekend with the Boston 305 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:47.559 Celtics making a big move acquiring Drew Holiday from the Portland Trailblazers. Portland Trailblazers 306 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.960 obviously not messing around, you know what I'm saying, Flipping another flipping a 307 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:57.000 major name like Drew Holiday getting draft picks time. Lord. You know, 308 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:03.319 look, the Portland Trailblazers are are in full rebuild mode. But you can 309 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:08.720 make the argument that even rebuilding for them, they still have a pretty decent 310 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:12.640 basketball team, one that could be you know, competitive, And I think 311 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:21.000 it just comes down to Canada rookie Scoot Henderson come in and really help elevate 312 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:29.960 this, you know, you know, like collective parts of of of everything 313 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:33.799 that that Portland Trailblazers have. And you know we've seen it happen before. 314 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.200 I mean, Utah Jazz did it and they found themselves in the mixed to 315 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.559 you know, to to participate in play in the playoffs, to make a 316 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:45.200 playoff run. So why not the Portland Trailblazers. Yeah, I mean Portland 317 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.599 more or less is in a situation where they are still going to be relatively 318 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.680 competitive. Joe Krnen indicates today that Malcolm Brogden might be a part of this 319 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.440 team for a little while at least, and then they might flip a later 320 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:57.000 point just to keep a veteran presence in the locker room. I think when 321 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:02.039 we discussed through holiday going there, that was the mode. But I understand 322 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.799 and I think evil we both understand holiday could fetch them a pretty decent return, 323 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:08.720 which it ultimately did. Brodden can still give you some leadership and some 324 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:12.599 veteran presence within that locker room for those young guys without having to compromise a 325 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:15.119 lot in their playing time. Brockden is also used to being in the sixth 326 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.160 man after being winning the sixth Man of the Year award last season. So 327 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.359 Cronin and the Portland trail Blazers seemed to be on the right path. A 328 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.400 team that I think is going to surprise people. I'm not predicting playoffs or 329 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.480 anything like that, but they could win twenty five thirty games. I don't 330 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.720 think this is going to be a team a team when the teams when it 331 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:36.680 comes to wins. DeAndre and very confident about his role, calling himself you 332 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:40.240 know, I think DeAndre or dominating or something like that too, because he 333 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:42.240 says he dominates, so you know, he's a little quirky and all of 334 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.119 that. But I think Portland is in a good space and it will be 335 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:48.319 really fun to kind of see them see them hoop this year. I don't 336 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:49.559 think they're gonna be as bad as some many people think they are going to 337 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:52.119 be. Yeah, I totally agree with you. And for the Busses Celtics, 338 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.880 look this solid move right getting Drew Holiday. You know, is it 339 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.119 an upgrade for Malcolm Brockden, Absolutely, But I think the upgrade is more 340 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.039 on this team's ability to get back to playing defense. And I think, 341 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:06.799 you know, you don't have to ask Drew Holiday to be you know, 342 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:10.119 prime Holiday, you know, like he was a few years ago when he 343 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:14.359 won that championship with the Milwaukee Bucks and Jannis, but I really think that 344 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.880 he can hold the Celtics accountable from the defensive standpoint. The one thing that 345 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:22.880 I think that just really kind of gets at me Sewan we were talking about 346 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.880 this is du Holiday is not the kind of player that's gonna hold this team 347 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:29.119 accountable. And I think the voice of accountability for this team to step up 348 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.680 and really, you know, play the kind of basketball they're capable of playing, 349 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:33.880 it's gonna have to come from Jalen Brown. He's gonna have to be 350 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:37.920 that voice in the locker room. They need to hear a fresh voice. 351 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.880 They obviously don't have that anymore and Marcus Smart, so it's gonna be on 352 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:45.400 Jalen And and there are times where Jaalen seems like he's got it, and 353 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.680 there are times where Jalen doesn't seem like he has it. So it'll be 354 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.079 very interesting how this trifecta operates. Listening to Celtics, I still think are 355 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.799 gonna be contenders, But until they dress they address their front court, man, 356 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.680 I'm still not completely sold on. You know, you know, the 357 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:07.519 East going through. You know, the boss of Celtics fair enough, and 358 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:10.359 you know, I don't encounter with you know, I think that leadership role 359 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:14.319 can be Tatum or Brown at this stage of Tatum's career, if you're going 360 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:17.559 to be elite, and I know Kevin Durant has kind of, you know, 361 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:19.279 gone through his career being an elite level player, a Hall of Fame 362 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:23.200 player, without ever really being the leader of a team so to speak. 363 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.960 And not to be disparaged, I know he's been a captain and things of 364 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.000 that nature, but you know, I think just really having his imprint and 365 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.160 footprint on the locker room that doesn't does this seem to be something that he's 366 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:36.720 been and I don't know if Tatum is in that same mold. I think 367 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:38.839 this would be the season to kind of prove that he's not right, and 368 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:42.240 so whether wish one of those two guys that's if stepping up the leadership standpoint, 369 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:45.240 you know, that would be awesome, I think for the Balls and 370 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:48.200 Celtics because then you know you're paying your highest paid guys and you're all NBA 371 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.359 guys now to also be leaders and not just produce on the court, but 372 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:55.319 also to help within the locker room space. Losing Robert Williams is going to 373 00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:56.200 be used for them. So I agree with what you're saying in terms of 374 00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:59.559 the front court aspect. We'll see what they do. They still have some 375 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.160 flexible to make some other moves, but no doubt Milwaukee and Boston are at 376 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.599 least trying to be the top two teams in the Eastern Conference. We'll see 377 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.440 how it plays out on the court. Absolutely, how about jest Man, 378 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:15.480 He's been cursing a lot, telling Damien, let's go go get this fan 379 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:19.240 championship. Dude, don't you have kids? What dad jokes you possibly come 380 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:22.359 up with? Now that you're cursing all over all the time, Like unbelievable. 381 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.759 That's serious. But he's serious. Now, Yeah, he's serious, 382 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:29.440 and I think the league should be put on notice as well too. I 383 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:30.640 mean even he's saying, you know, you know, he said something about 384 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.359 money and having money is the own thing, but having a lot of f 385 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.880 and money is another thing. That's when you're rich or whatever. You know. 386 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.640 The explotives don't, you know, make it any more emphatic, I 387 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.960 guess in some ways depending on who's listening. But I think we're trying to 388 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:47.599 see we're starting to see a different side of Yannis here, who is completely 389 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:49.599 and I don't know that he's never not been this way, but it's just 390 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:55.119 been more vocal. He wants to win, and it's almost he's like he's 391 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:57.839 gone back on what he said about last year with some of his comments, 392 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:02.680 because remember he said last year wasn't a failure, but everything else, everything 393 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:06.240 he said since then indicate a last year was a failure. And I think 394 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:07.960 we all agree that it was. You know, definitely they definitely came up 395 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.920 short. So I'm excited to see what he and Dame do on the court 396 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.400 together. Dame said this and that he's ever been in a picture like this, 397 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:17.680 I think with Chris Middleton, Jannis and Brook Lopez all came around. 398 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:19.920 Dame was like, oh man, this is a squad Milwaukee's gonna be a 399 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:25.319 really good basketball team led by Jannis and Dame. Absolutely, it's interesting, 400 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:30.359 like all the players who've had the opportunity to train with Kobe Bryant and you 401 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.559 know, the Mamba mentality. You know, the one person who seems to 402 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:36.079 have more of the Mamba mentality and I don't even think that there's ever a 403 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:38.400 time that I saw that he ever trained with him was Janni sat Kompo. 404 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.799 That's which which I kind of tell you something. I mean, he sen 405 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.920 in essence, you know, comes off more Mamba like than most of the 406 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:48.759 other dudes that we you know, often talk about who get on their Instagram 407 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.720 and share posts about, you know, the time they watched Kobe. I'll 408 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:56.519 tell our fans if you can watch his interview, it got a little bit 409 00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:00.799 hokey, But watch an interview with Chris Haynes on NBA TV if you can 410 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.880 find it, and he talks about not training with guys and being friends with 411 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.759 guys. He goes into it so honest is honest is on a different different 412 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:10.759 level right now, and you kind of love to see it, you know, 413 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.920 from that level of competitiveness. Yeah, absolutely, man, he listen, 414 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:17.400 he thinks that there there's a there's a there's a there's another king out 415 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.000 there. You know what I'm saying. You know, I don't know a 416 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:23.000 dark lord or whatever. You know what I'm saying. So, and he's 417 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:27.720 he'll gladly embrace it if it means him getting the championship out in Philadelphia. 418 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:36.440 Shaw James Harden, no show, Oh, surprise, surprise. Yeah, 419 00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.000 man, So I was wrong. I thought I thought there'd be no way 420 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:41.720 he didn't he would pull this off, especially in a contract year. But 421 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:47.400 Harden gonna Harden. And you know, he's maintains he still wants to be 422 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.000 traded to the Clippers, even though the Clippers don't seem to be all that 423 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.599 enamored. They're not saying they don't they flat out don't want him, but 424 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.119 they don't want him for the price that Darrel Mori wants to wants people to 425 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.759 pay for him more. Answered a lot of questions and like, hey, 426 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.880 playing the playing the middle. If he wants to come back, we'll happenly 427 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.839 accept them, etc. Et cetera. And if he doesn't, then we'll 428 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:08.240 deal with it at that time. Hey, I love James. I think 429 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:11.039 he's a great player. That Dada I'm sorry it's gone the way that's gone. 430 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.039 So Moray is still doing what he needs to do, I think, 431 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.240 to maintain the piece, keep his job, you know, and be saying 432 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.799 that the Bucks and the and the Celtics have not passed Philadelphia. But well, 433 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:22.400 I mean, I know you could say that about the Celtics, but 434 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.480 anyway, you know, and be just being trying to stole the line say 435 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:26.640 that he wants to be in Philadelphia. So that, I think, from 436 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.640 a fan standpoint, is really really big. But this Harden thing is going 437 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.400 to get a lot uglier. And I think both guys are as we've been 438 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.119 saying all summer, they're ready to get uncomfortable. So let's see who blinks 439 00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:37.960 first. Yeah, I mean they're dug in there. They're dugging, you 440 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.160 know, That's what That's what it comes down to. And again, you 441 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.240 know, there was a time where NBA Media Day didn't open up this kind 442 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:51.319 of scrutiny that's taking place because typically it was always under wraps, right like, 443 00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.599 it was just more local. But now because of the globalization of the 444 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:57.920 NBA and because there's so many outlets and streams and you know, there's so 445 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:02.480 many storylines that are they're rummaging in the course of a day. As it 446 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:07.279 pertains to these teams and these players specifically, it's kind of hard not to 447 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.880 see that this wouldn't get unnoticed, right like this is this to me is 448 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:15.759 just it's crazy. You know, he knew, and obviously the Sixers knew, 449 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.720 and now they got to figure out a way to figure out who's gonna 450 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.279 blink first. Like you said, Los Angeles Lakers, shaw Ad and Lebron 451 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.039 taking notes, I had, I had no idea that they that they were 452 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:30.400 good with shorthand, yeah, they they They're a little tight about you know 453 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:36.920 the Nuggets comments after sweeping them in the Western Conference Finals and ultimately winning the 454 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.079 NBA Championship. You know, so eighty more that says it was cute and 455 00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.480 all, yeah, y'all won. But me and Lebron been talking, and 456 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:47.319 the Lakers are in a space right now where they feel like they are one 457 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:49.160 of the better teams, one of the elite teams in the Western Conference. 458 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.799 Anthony Davis, I mean, as all players should. But any names that 459 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:57.240 I want to play all eighty two, we'll see. But but I like 460 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:04.240 to know what happened. I'd like to spare young guys, so please like 461 00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:10.240 whatever's like. But at least again his heart is than the right place, 462 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:11.359 so you know, well this body allow him to do it. That's what 463 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.480 we'll have to wait and see. The Lakers are again. I do think 464 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.759 they are one of the better teams out there. Everyone seems to love their 465 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.759 moves and just gotta see Howard messes together. But yeah, they they they 466 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.519 they have aims specifically at the defending NBA champions and we'll see how that goes 467 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.960 as they meet up on opening night. I got a question for you, 468 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:36.319 given the the hoopla about the Los Angeles Lakers, how much of the if 469 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:41.200 this team, if this team falls short, you know again of not being 470 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.880 able to get to the NBA Finals, how much of the emphasis is going 471 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:52.400 to be placed on Lebron James and Anthony Davis or how much of the emphasis 472 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:53.519 do you think would be placed on, like say, the rest of the 473 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:59.720 team or maybe even Darvin Hamm. I mean, it depends how the season 474 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.039 goes, right, do Lron and Ad have significant injuries again that keeps them 475 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.079 from from from playing. If everything is status quo, then you would think 476 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.680 the roster construction just didn't work. While the names are nice, did it 477 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.880 just fit together? So that probably ends up becoming a Darvin Ham problem and 478 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.920 or a Rap Polinka problem than more so than a Lebron or a d again 479 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.880 assuming help for all those guys, so that's where I would land on it. 480 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.720 We obviously have to see the season play itself out, but coaches and 481 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.920 general managers are usually the first ones to blame when something doesn't work out. 482 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:32.480 The players are usually the last in that equation. I gotta say show that 483 00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:34.880 I think it's going to be really tricky this year for Darvin Ham. Thought. 484 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:40.880 I thought last year what he did was masterful and what he got out 485 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.559 of those guys, I think it was almost as remarkable as whatever exposure did 486 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.720 for the Miami Heat. But I really think that this year is you're gonna 487 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:51.759 have to You're gonna have to see him pull, you know, a rabbit 488 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:56.759 a hat with how he's gonna have to manage both Lebron James and Anthony Davis. 489 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.680 And I think a lot of this is going to be predicated on how 490 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:06.200 increasingly talented this roster is going to be, because I think if there's anything 491 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:07.720 that they could hope for, if you're the Lakers, is that they are 492 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.599 in the presence of a lot of blowout games that can allow them to wrest 493 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:18.799 Lebron and Ad because I to me, I think the stretch run, the 494 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.920 run through the playoffs is going to be so critical. It's hard for me 495 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.759 to imagine that Lebron James is gonna have enough in the tank through another eighty 496 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.599 two games season, regardless if he takes rest days or whatever, and Anthony 497 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.400 Davis the same thing, and then they still figure out a way to win 498 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.279 sixteen games and win that chip. It's just I don't know it. Just 499 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.839 every year it feels like it's more and more daunting and not onus. Comes 500 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.599 down to the coaches being able to manage these players properly. And I just 501 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.920 think it's a slippery slope. So Darman hand Ham pulls this off, Bro, 502 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:56.000 you need to give him his flowers. Absolutely, just crazy New Orleans 503 00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:01.119 Pelicans Zion procim excuse me proclaiming love for Nola and his teams. Now, 504 00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:07.599 if I'm if I'm a Zion, I'd be very careful throwing out that L 505 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:13.240 word. Already got already got him in trouble already this offseason, and and 506 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.400 I would just I would have just waited until you know, this team is 507 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.039 first in this division or you know, one of the top three teams. 508 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.119 But hey, you know, can't knock a kid man. He got a 509 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.920 big, bright, smiley face, you know, so why why why discourage 510 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.319 it? Yeah, he's still one of the more engaging personalities I think to 511 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:35.880 talk to on media day, you know, and they asked him, we 512 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:37.839 know what he worked on. He worked on being you know, unstoppable or 513 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.440 dominant or something to that in effect, right, and you know he's smiling. 514 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.440 He says, how many times when I need to say this, I 515 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.279 want to be in New Orleans. I want to be here for my teammates. 516 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:51.839 So I think that's been a question. David Griffin also indicated that you 517 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:54.759 know he saw Zion and no Zion has hired people to help him with his 518 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:58.720 body and help him with his diet, and the Griffin's that point, Mike, 519 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:00.240 this is the first to ask you think that part of his career. 520 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.319 Seriously, I gotta ask you this real quick show. Who is it that's 521 00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.480 asking him this question if he still wants to be with NOLA. Is it 522 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.640 the local reporters or is it like the regional reporters. You know what I'm 523 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.279 saying from the from the major outlets that part, I don't know. I'm 524 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.839 seeing sign clips as well too, and watch everyone's media day and you know, 525 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.559 intimately, you know, but just picking up off of what was piggybacked 526 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.680 and what was put out there. So yeah, I don't know again the 527 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.039 frame of that question, but you know, he more or that says like 528 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:30.599 Haim and cos I need to say it, so I don't. I don't. 529 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:32.279 He didn't really say it with an attitude, but at the same time, 530 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.880 he's tired of repeating himself at the same you know, in the same 531 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.119 breadth. So I just like, I just feel like, yeah, well 532 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:43.240 and hopefully he stays looking good. My thing is is that. And I'm 533 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.200 not saying that he shouldn't have to say it, because obviously if it's being 534 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.960 asked and he's gonna have to answer it, and I'm sure you'd get tired 535 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.119 of repeating yourself over and over again. But I often say to myself when 536 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.279 guys keep saying it like this, or keep you know, you know, 537 00:33:54.319 --> 00:34:00.400 proclaiming this, you know, it reminds me a lot like what people often 538 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.759 gravitate to is what happened when Anthony Davis. And it's just at the point 539 00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.640 where you keep asking enough to the person who's annoyed to say, fine, 540 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:07.639 I'm not I don't want to be here. Does that help you, guys? 541 00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:10.039 Does that make you feel happy? And then the next thing you know, 542 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.960 he's like shipped out of shipped out of here. You know what I 543 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:15.880 mean I did to me. I just feel like, if you are a 544 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.800 local reporter, I hope you're not pushing this because you need clicks or you 545 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.599 need to really, you know, just because Zion is going through whatever he's 546 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.920 been through, it's quite evident that you listen after he's signed the extension, 547 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.400 he's he's in it, you know, at least until the next extension comes. 548 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.119 So and there's nothing that's giving you the inclination that the Clippers of not. 549 00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.960 I'm sorry that the Pelicans have not been putting together a competitive basketball team. 550 00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.760 You know, it's just that it can't be as competitive as at once 551 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.960 because their main do just is never on the damn basketball court. So you 552 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.760 know, I mean, that's what it comes down to before we have to 553 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.199 start. Even if if Zion said to himself, I want to go somewhere 554 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.639 else. Everybody's gonna be looking at him to do what what To get injured 555 00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:59.960 and just sit out on the bench for the rest of your career Like nobody 556 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.320 he's gonna want that. Everybody wants to see what this potentially can lead to. 557 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.719 Nobody wants to do the well what he might be any longer. Like 558 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.840 everyone's beyond that. If this is the year that he actually says, I'm 559 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:16.239 strapping on my boots, I'm gonna start thinking, acting differently, being healthy, 560 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:20.360 holding myself accountable, get out there and be out there for my teammates. 561 00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.480 All right, then we can start from there. It's like hitting a 562 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.400 reset button. But everything from this point forward, if it's back to the 563 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:28.039 same old, same ole, he can demand wherever he wants to go. 564 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.559 I think at this point, moving forward, Zion's career will be looked with 565 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.599 a lot of skepticism because they don't know how genuine it is. At least 566 00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.480 we didn't have to worry about that with Anthony Davis. Was just the risk 567 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.320 of whoever's going to pony up to take Anthony knows what they were getting. 568 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.840 But when he's there, there's no question of the potential that that team can 569 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:52.480 have with him being the lead dude. Well, Zion again is in the 570 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.639 space where he's looking to contribute, and he I agree with you one thousand 571 00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.639 percent in terms of aspect. He just needs to prove on the court. 572 00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.880 So enough talk, See you stay healthy, play sixty five to seventy games, 573 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:06.000 and we'll have a conversation, all right, quick hitter shot Memphis Grizzlies 574 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.519 Media Day. Obviously you know the big person not there, John Morant. 575 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.000 But I think a lot of focus is about, you know, whether or 576 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.719 not this team has enough to hold out until John Morant returns. Well, 577 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.559 I mean the big thing is that he will be able to practice and travel 578 00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.679 with the team serving his twenty five games suspension, So basically letting him back 579 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:30.159 into the facility is a huge situation. So I think it will keep him 580 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:34.559 ready and rearing to go and keep him healthy because he misses you know a 581 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.199 handful of games each year as well each season as well too so due to 582 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.840 injury. So hopefully now you know, he'll be able to play the you 583 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.480 know whatever fifty something games with seven games that he'll be available for without incident. 584 00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:51.840 Los Angeles Clippers obviously, big expectations. You know this year, Tyron 585 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.679 Low hoping that you know, his guys are going to stay healthy and try 586 00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:00.400 to really make this push. Yeah, big year in Clipperland. Obviously they 587 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:05.480 make an interesting signing Josh Primo, whatever was going on with him in that 588 00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.800 situation in San Antonio. League has decided he'll be serving for four game suspension. 589 00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:13.960 But I think it's an astute move from a talent standpoint. Character Wise, 590 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.400 I guess we gotta wait to see if Primo's you know, learned his 591 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.639 lesson or whatever that whatever that actually was, But I don't think he's going 592 00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.079 to be there and be the guy. But I think it's a nice person 593 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.199 to take a risk on from a talent perspective. And then obviously, if 594 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:30.840 Kawaii and PG can be there, Russ is back as well to saying, 595 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.159 you know the russisms if you will, that it's not a championship or bus 596 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.880 season. Well, I don't know what else the clubs are playing for. 597 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.840 I think Bomber would disagree, but Russ going through Russ and you know, 598 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.280 I'm here for all of it, all right, Finally show I know that 599 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.320 we talked about the Denver Nuggets a little bit before, because you know, 600 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.679 hey, they kind of called out the Los Angeles Lakers quite often, and 601 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.000 you know, in celebration of their championship. But listen, make no bones 602 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.760 about it, the Nuggets are still the top team to beat. There's nothing 603 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.400 I mean, listen, day did lose a couple of important pieces, but 604 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.159 their core pieces are still there, and their core pieces still have upside potential 605 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:09.000 to be even better, which could really help augment offset a little bit of 606 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:14.119 what they lost. And somewhere along the way, there's always waiver moves or 607 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.559 decisions that can be made in order to bolster that basketball team. But nothing 608 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:20.239 really gives us the inclination that the Nuggets are going to take a step back 609 00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.880 from from what they achieved last year. Yeah, I think here is more 610 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.280 or less. They're the defending champions, so we need to put some respect 611 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.440 on their name and at least mention them. For media day, you know, 612 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.320 I think Yokis comes in, you know, kind of you know, 613 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:32.079 doing his little bop or whatever it, his little walk. You know, 614 00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:36.320 they ask him have you touch of basketball, you know since the finals, 615 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:39.880 and he kind of sheepishly says yeah a few times. Then Jamal Murray says 616 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.880 not he touched the rock at all, so we don't know, but maybe 617 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.840 today at me today like taking some of those pictures the first time Yokich just 618 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.000 touched the ball since the NBA Finals, and hopefully you know, he won't 619 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.639 take too long to kind of get back into the MVP NBA Finals MVP shape 620 00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:59.679 that he would that he was in just this past season. But again, 621 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:01.440 we need to put respect on Denver's name. They are the defending champions, 622 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.719 so I thought it was due that we need to at least mention them here 623 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.840 in our media day segment. No, absolutely, and listen, what does 624 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.760 it matter if if Yo? I think if if, if, if anything, 625 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:14.840 the rest of the NBA should be happy Yoko touch that damn basketball. 626 00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.480 It seems like every time he touches that basketball, the rest of the league 627 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:22.400 is in it's in trouble. So they cat catch her exactly, catch them 628 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.960 strays if they want. Awesome show this week's shaw I mean, and again, 629 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.400 kudos to you man for being able to make it out there for my 630 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:34.800 v heat NBA Media Day. I'm sure it was certainly worth your wild But 631 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.559 I know you're running on fumes, brother, Yeah man, you know I'm 632 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.719 just gonna go let it down here and get ready for the next The week 633 00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.639 ahead preseason game is going to be you know, not too far away here, 634 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:46.880 just in a couple of days. So always shout out to our fans, 635 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:50.719 the listeners, thank you for the love on you know, our socials 636 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.880 on YouTube as well too, for the heat meat to day videos. Keep 637 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.199 watching, keep commenting, you know, we love that. But make sure 638 00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:58.400 you check them out the Baseline, you know, the podcast that's kind of 639 00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.760 covering it all. You know, my guy here, Callie just one of 640 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.599 the best out there, So just excited to be in being the saddle for 641 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.519 another season. It's going to be a wild one. Lots of lots of 642 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.920 intrigue are away coming our way for this NBA season, So make sure you 643 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:14.719 tap in the baseline and shout out to the rest of our basketball shows. 644 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:16.199 Make sure you find on the Late Night Lake Show. Make sure you find 645 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.119 Close Up Magic as well too. You know, those guys do a great 646 00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.039 job. Jerald Brown now doing an all sports show, you know with Rick 647 00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.400 Mhorne, so they'll do some basketball, but obviously some NFL and some other 648 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.920 sports get that as well too, but shut up the whole nineteen yeah as 649 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.880 well, too small town people say, give me confringement, the whole nine. 650 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:35.320 Everybody's five man, check them all out. Everybody. Man, just 651 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.679 flame, flame on, you know what I'm saying. Flame all that. 652 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.039 Once again, man, we appreciate you and yours stopping off board with this 653 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.840 this week for the baseline Callie, weren't y'all. We appreciate you guys, 654 00:40:44.880 --> 00:41:00.119 you know we do. We'll catch up with you next time. M