1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:16,559 Made a decision face Sonny, So I had Hey, everybody, it's our 2 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,079 Thursday episode of her for crying out loud. I'd like to call it FCOO, 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,600 but that's sorry fo. Let's call it that. That's what I've been 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:32,039 calling it for a while for call what a Patrick. Hey, I had 5 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:36,320 no idea you guys had been doing this for thirteen years together. I wasn't 6 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:39,840 sure. I didn't know the history was that long. Who was the co 7 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,960 host that you replaced Stephanie that everyone would like brisk all right, so that 8 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,359 she was the one, because we've touched on this briefly in the last time 9 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:50,679 we caught up with each other. She's the one that was married to the 10 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:54,439 super agent for comedians, right, yeah, okay, yeah, I heard 11 00:00:54,479 --> 00:01:03,280 an episode with her. She's insane, Yeah you think all right? Very 12 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:07,959 nice though, yeah, yeah, nice person, very yeah. So yeah, 13 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,519 So Stephanie's been with me ever since. That was literally like probably more 14 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:18,319 than thirteen years ago, that thirt I keep making it longer. If I've 15 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,439 been sober fourteen years. I was probably sober like two years when I first 16 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,680 was a guest on the show, So definitely twelve years we've been doing this 17 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,239 right right, eleven or twelve years Yeah, oh, I wasn't supposed to 18 00:01:29,239 --> 00:01:34,799 put the headphones on. Whatever. Here we are and this is gonna be 19 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:38,920 video so people can see us all chatting in our studio and buy our stud 20 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:46,000 I mean our studio studio. Yes, thank you, Pat Patrick A proper 21 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,920 introduction, Patrick Hickey, our pal that everybody loves, that everybody knows from 22 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:55,079 Bad TV with your pal Dylan, who's not here you're supposed to be sitting 23 00:01:55,079 --> 00:01:57,280 next to you. Yeah, he's on his way, hopefully you can make 24 00:01:57,319 --> 00:02:01,120 it. Sure what's he doing? He works for Brian Callen in uh Tripoli, 25 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,840 I can't remember the guys first Sam Tripoli. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 26 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,240 They have a show called Conspiracy Theories where they just riff on just conspiracy 27 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,120 theories from oh really yeah, with Dylan too or no, he's kind of 28 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,400 a part in the show. They let him talk. Yeah. Oh so 29 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:20,879 he's like a producer. He's a producer. I mean, that's the interesting 30 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,479 thing about all this. Everybody except for me, has like a producing job 31 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:30,240 in podcasting. Kaylin's got his side hustles producing. Our former colleague who shall 32 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,479 be nameless also produces other podcasts. Dylan produces podcast. I'd like to say 33 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,120 I discovered Dylan. He reached out to me on LinkedIn with some weird red 34 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:46,080 filter light like his picture and reached out to me a few times and wanted 35 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,879 a job at the Corolla Studios. And finally I was like, all right, 36 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,159 let's let's see what you got. Came in with this little We talked 37 00:02:55,159 --> 00:03:00,400 about this, haven't we with a little sweater and his khaki's his navy blue 38 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,599 sweater and its khaki pants. The crazy part of all this, I'm old, 39 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,240 um. And then when I think of Kaylin and meeting him for the 40 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,719 first time at the studio. I started working for you guys in twenty fifteen. 41 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,319 Kaylin, you're thirty one now. Yeah, so that's uh, that's 42 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,280 really bad. That's eight years so you were like twenty four or something. 43 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,479 Yeah. Well this came up on the podcast the other day. Actually, 44 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:21,800 the first time I met you was when we did the live show down there. 45 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,719 It's ten Horn Flats, remember that, Emily Morris. Huh that's right. 46 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Oh yeah, you were a little baby. Yeah. Oh yeah. 47 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:37,280 So how's bad TV? Bad TV's great? Um, what do you guys 48 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:42,319 cover? All right, so we're right now we're covering Before the ninety Day, 49 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:45,759 which is a version of ninety day Fiance, which a lot of people 50 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:50,080 don't know, like they have like eighty different versions of that. I hear 51 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:53,919 before the Best Okay, so yes it is. I can't I can't watch 52 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,560 the other versions of the show, which is crazy because it's just all different, 53 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:02,360 like slight it rations of the same concept. Some insane person flies to 54 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,039 a different country for someone they think they're in love with, or vice versa. 55 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,560 Right, Yeah, that's called the other way, and then they have 56 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:15,360 love in paradise where the other way is supposed to be the best one. 57 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,920 I disagree. I disagree. Oh my god. No, before the ninety 58 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:24,120 day the people have never met at all, and the other way they may 59 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,399 have actually interacted with each other prior. So you get almost like this little 60 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,480 tantalizing dance of like, what's this the first meeting? You're always working up 61 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:36,600 with that that series of what's going to happen the first time the two couples 62 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:42,000 meet? So if you don't mind I talk about it, it's yeah. 63 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:46,920 Is there cat fishing involved? There is. There's always catfishing. There's always 64 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,920 a poor, poor guy named Tire who lives with his mother, whose obese 65 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,680 has been catfished by a woman who he thought was Carmela, but it's actually 66 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,560 a guy named Christian who lives in the Dominican Republican who he's been sending money 67 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,959 to despite the fact he isn't act poor. Oh my god. And that 68 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,079 was discovered this episode. The producers like, hey, we got something to 69 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,079 tell you, and they said something I've never seen on reality TV. They 70 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,839 actually tell the participant tirade. They say, look, we don't need to 71 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,920 put this on TV if you don't want it. And I was like, 72 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:17,319 I felt so bad for the guy. But you've been dating a guy named 73 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:20,600 Christian? Oh my god? And do you want to hear? We have 74 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:23,480 a recording of us talking to him. Do you want to hear? And 75 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,399 he's like, nah, I don't want it. Okay, wait, this 76 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:30,639 is okay, what's the name of it? Before the ninety day and they 77 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:32,600 have not met. They have not met. It is excellent. Now. 78 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,759 Ninety Day Fiance started out with a documentary I believe in like twenty two eleven, 79 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,399 and then the original version the first couple of seasons. I mean you 80 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,639 watched it early on right stuff? Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, 81 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,279 we have Mohammed and Danielle where the man actually said at a reunion that she 82 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:50,720 smelled and I couldn't believe that was on air and on television, and my 83 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:56,560 god. And they stayed together well for a little while, and like she 84 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,959 was still like I'm in yeah, I love this guy until he escaped to 85 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:04,360 Florida and drove for uber and then she tracked him down there because she was 86 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,800 trying to get him out of the country because he definitely did conn her. 87 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,439 It's back in its best form now, so get this all right. So 88 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,839 they have a girl, very very pretty, thirty one Amanda from I Believe 89 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,199 Ohio. I could be wrong, or maybe that's where a sister lives. 90 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:23,480 Her husband died four months before they begin filming. He died. He wasn't 91 00:06:23,519 --> 00:06:26,160 feeling well for eight months, went to a doctor. The doctor said, 92 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,800 ah, you know, it's we can't find anything. Returns to a doctor 93 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,399 eight months later. The doctor tells him get your things in order. You 94 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:36,920 have stage four whatever cancer. You have ten days to live or something insane 95 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:42,079 that. The guy doesn't even make it one day out of that going to 96 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,360 see the hospital. So he passes. They have two kids. He gets 97 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,120 cremated. He's putting a little box with his face on it that the kids 98 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:54,480 go to sleep with that night. She has been dating essentially a Romanian porn 99 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:59,399 star online who's like a TikTok sensation with one hundred and thirty four thousand followers, 100 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,959 and she's put for her right after right after meriving totally distraction grieving, 101 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:11,399 which I don't think she understands that. So she decides that it's an excellent 102 00:07:11,439 --> 00:07:15,319 idea to get a plane ticket and fly over to Romania to live with him 103 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:21,240 for three weeks while her two very very young children are staying with her sister. 104 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,800 And I think we're in episode two of it, and the kids are 105 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:29,800 already like upset, Why is who's this guy in the video? Are you 106 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:32,319 guys sleeping in the same room with each other? And It's what's interesting about 107 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,560 good reality TV is it has you questioning all these like am I a judge? 108 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,800 Yassle? Because I think she's making a horrible mistake. And I mean, 109 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:44,000 you feel for her, because look, you've never you don't know how 110 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,160 someone feels. You haven't walked in their shoes. But me, when I 111 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:48,759 watch it, I'm like, couldn't you just go to the next town and 112 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,240 bang a door guy, you know what I mean, get this out of 113 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:57,480 your system, Go have sex with the hottest bartender or whatever, and then 114 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,319 wrap it up at his apartment and then dry home and hang out with the 115 00:08:01,399 --> 00:08:03,879 kids. Yeah, leave your kids instead. She thinks she's gonna get engaged 116 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,680 and he's going to be their dad. Oh no. Simultaneously, he's already 117 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,319 told us to camera, I see myself as more of a friend to and 118 00:08:15,519 --> 00:08:18,959 to her, to the kids. He definitely wants to have sex with her. 119 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:22,639 Oh yeah. And it's just that's one storyline. Another one is a 120 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:28,720 guy who he's been deaf uh since childbirth. Um, he only knows sign 121 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,920 language, he can't read lips and he can't talk, and he's met a 122 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:37,120 girl in like Vietnam or something like that, and it's just you feel bad 123 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:39,559 for him. And then you find out that they've been like doing like sex 124 00:08:39,639 --> 00:08:41,480 videos with each other. You're like, oh, you're a friend. Oh 125 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,919 you're fine, you're masturbating on camera, you're living your best life. I 126 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:52,799 was, how will they communicate if they have to do the typing thing? 127 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:56,240 Oh? I think, which is insane. I mean, that's a relationship 128 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,919 ender right there, I can't have a relationship with somewhere. I gotta like 129 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,960 type it into my what do you want for dinner? Hold on a second? 130 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,759 And then she reads it and then oh what do I want for dinner? 131 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,960 Right? How do you jack off? Anti day? That sounds really 132 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:16,559 complicated? That very yeah, just to get consent that's like a whole long 133 00:09:18,039 --> 00:09:20,600 I didn't even think about that. Yeah, Like how does that first come 134 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,000 up? So to speak? Right? You're just like, I mean, 135 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:26,559 we barely can communicate, but like, do you want to see me jack 136 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:31,000 off? She can't even read lips. Right, it's a guy here, 137 00:09:31,039 --> 00:09:33,559 though, Stephanie. So where there's a will, there's a masturbating on film 138 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:37,320 way right, we will always find a way to show our penis. He's 139 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:43,159 like, I can read lips, just not these lips. Um, what 140 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,960 are you guys watching? Oh god? Oh, I was just telling her. 141 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,759 I think that I don't know if you guys would like this show, 142 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:52,000 but I think you would. You remember like the catch up Predator stuff? 143 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,399 Oh um, yes, Chris Hansen, sorry, yeah, but this is 144 00:09:56,639 --> 00:10:01,679 this is, this is this organization. And she's got a house with a 145 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:05,679 bedroom upstairs that she has like staged. She's got a team of people working 146 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:11,159 with her to catch online predators. And she pretends that she's you know, 147 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,039 like she can look she's in her forties, she can look like she's sixteen. 148 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,080 She's got braces, they got the whole, they got the makeup, 149 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,600 they got wigs, they got everything. They make her look. And so 150 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,480 she creates all these online profiles. But she's an organ they're a nonprofit organization 151 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:31,399 specifically to bust these online predators. And season two is so much better than 152 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,600 season one. It's called I already told you the name of it. It's 153 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,360 called Undercover under Age. We talked a lot about this in the last episode. 154 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,600 Yeah, undercover underage. But yeah, and the season two is much 155 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:46,679 better because it's satisfying. They have the cops waiting there. They bust them. 156 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,840 You see the guy get busted. You see they interview them, the 157 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:52,720 guy in the car, like, what were you thinking. At one episode 158 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,480 they get the guy's wife on the phone to tell him, well, your 159 00:10:56,519 --> 00:11:01,120 husband's going to jail because he was meeting a twelve year old. It's crazy. 160 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:05,799 Here's the craziness of the original version of that concept with I'm sorry Chris 161 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,000 Hansen. Yeah, he's gotten in at water too. He had busted for 162 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,360 drunk driving or something, or he had a skipped out on some bills or 163 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:16,919 something like that. And I think there was a bad divorce in there, 164 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:20,279 thrown in there somewhere, but the original version, like I saw an interview 165 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,039 with him a few years ago where he wasn't just busting your run of the 166 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:28,240 mill like creep troub. I mean there were pastors showing up at that house. 167 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:31,600 Um, there were. It's just you're just like I never know the 168 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,720 demons that you're around when you're walking around. So I was so into it. 169 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,759 After I watched the two seasons of this show, I went down the 170 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,039 rabbit hole and went on YouTube and found, like, not the old ones. 171 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,120 He's doing it again. Catch a Predator. It's called like Hanson versus 172 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:52,240 Predator or some shit like that. And he catches a guy. The guy 173 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:54,759 walks into the house and he sees him on the video and he on the 174 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:58,159 monitor and he goes, oh my god, I know this guy. He 175 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:03,440 sits with Chris Hanson on a commuter train. He said, I've sat next 176 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,799 to this guy plenty of times. He knows who I am. We've had 177 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:09,200 plenty of conversations about ketchup. Brett, he sat next to him. He's 178 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:13,879 commuted with this guy. So then the guy walks in and he thinks he's 179 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,720 he's a real estate guy in his sixties. He thinks he's picking up on 180 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:20,679 a on a like sixteen year old boy and he and he comes in the 181 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,759 kids. He talks to the boy for a minute, you know, have 182 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:26,840 some cookies and sweet tea. The guy leaves. Chris Hanson walks out and 183 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:30,559 he turns around and he goes, oh my god, Chris. And the 184 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,840 guy goes, Brett, what the hell? And he turns around. He 185 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,320 tries to leave, of course, gets tackled to the ground. Yeah, 186 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,720 and gets yeah. Wow, It's so crazy. Can you imagine how many 187 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,360 conversations those two had on the commuter trail? Chris love the show. And 188 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:46,799 then like the worst part that guy when he went to jail and they interviewed 189 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,799 him. He's like, the most embarrassing part was that I've communed with Chris 190 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,120 Hanson, like I've in his head, he's had worst case and like, 191 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,519 I can't imagine that happening to me. Well, idiot happening, Oh my 192 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,000 god, Oh god, it's I just always loved on to catch up Predator. 193 00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:07,320 How the guys would always come over with like Mike's hard lemonade or totally 194 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,440 like he's like, what are you doing here or whatever, and then they'd 195 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:13,320 feel like listening a friend. Yeah, they'd be like why did you bring 196 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,559 Mike's hard lemonade? And condoms. He'd be like, I'm just wanted to 197 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,000 play with them, not in any kind of sexual way, like they're fun 198 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,399 like water balloons. Ever tried him with a condom? They're super fun and 199 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:30,960 slippery. My favorite part stuff was always when the Chris Hansen gets done, 200 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,960 you know, like laying out what happened, and then the guy's like, 201 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:39,240 so I can go, yeah, and it's like, yeah, you're gonna 202 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,519 let you go, and he's like, but does anything got to happen to 203 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:48,039 get out of here? You? And then the cops take them down. 204 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,720 I can watch that show. I usually can only take a couple episodes of 205 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:54,320 that at any given time because I'm like, oh, I watched um it 206 00:13:54,519 --> 00:13:58,519 was a three part it came out, didn't have a lot of um not 207 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,120 a lot of people talked about it, but it was Jared the Subway Guy 208 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:07,039 documentary Stephen, did you see it? I watched it so good. How 209 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,159 about when he's like, what I what is the best? Is like these 210 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:13,879 girls I like him from Broken Homes? Yes? Yeah, Then he says 211 00:14:13,919 --> 00:14:18,120 this, So the girl that kind of pulled him into this was a radio 212 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,360 DJ who I don't know if they ever had sex. Was that laid out 213 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:26,279 or were they that woman right now? Okay, so they but he thought 214 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,399 there was kind of at least the romantic connection. Was talking about all these 215 00:14:30,559 --> 00:14:37,039 crazy sex things, particularly with miners. And the one thing I remember is 216 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,720 she was like I think she said she had a family member and then she 217 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,399 said, uh yeah, but she's only nine. And this is the creepiest 218 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,200 thing. He goes tell me more and I'm like, oh my god, 219 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:54,320 this fat guy subway, Oh my god, I know. Oh he was 220 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,759 like remember remember later it was like in the last episode of it or whatever, 221 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,639 and he's like trying to get her to have a birthday party for the 222 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:07,120 kid, remember, And he's like, I'm gonna come to the birthday party. 223 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,240 And then like, yeah, are you gonna We're gonna get video cameras 224 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:13,279 and like and then he's like which one, which one do you think I'm 225 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,000 gonna be more attracted to remember. Oh, I didn't watch start, but 226 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,480 that does sound. Oh my god, you got to watch the ad it, 227 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,600 Steph. It was so hard. He wants her to throw a birthday 228 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:26,360 party and then she says she's gonna, well, no, she says she's 229 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,279 gonna throw one because they're kind of trying to trap him, and he's totally 230 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,960 gonna come. But then something comes up and he can't come. So that's 231 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,639 when the FBI is going to get him at this birthday party where he's going 232 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:37,320 to try to scam on her. How did they finally get him because I 233 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:41,039 did not see the final talk, so she had all these tapes of him 234 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,639 talking about this. They got his computer search history. Obviously the FBI was 235 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:48,039 involved. What was the final takedown? Did they cover that? Um? 236 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:52,600 I know, I don't remember. You just heard in the news the fat 237 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:56,440 guy, the gut skinny eating subway sandwiches every day, is now a fucking 238 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,000 pedal, right, and he's arresting. They're gonna throw away the key. 239 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,600 And there wasn't even like this might not be true. Wife divorced him the 240 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:04,240 week later. Next thing, you know, Oh, that's right. The 241 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:07,919 wife had no idea, right, like, right, none, But he 242 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:12,000 was already liked this before he got married, right right? Oh, Like 243 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:18,320 I think he was already involved with the DJ woman and then he got married. 244 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:21,519 I mean he was already a creep. Well, I think she tried 245 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:23,360 to go to the FBI at first or something and nothing, they didn't, 246 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:29,080 nothing came. She tried really hard to get him in trouble, and nobody 247 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,720 would like take her seriously. So that's why she evidence. That's why she 248 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,399 put her. That's why she didn't she like say to like talk about her 249 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,600 kids, liked to talk about her kids him because she records, that's why 250 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:44,720 she recorded. She recorded him. By the way, the first minutes of 251 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:48,200 fifteen minutes of this podcast, good luck writing the liner notes and the someone's 252 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:56,080 like, oh my god, this sounds like the most impressing past. Oh 253 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,480 I'm so into. Well, last week we talked about this, um ohme 254 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:06,720 the Alian Netflix. Have you the Orgasmic Meditation documentary? So is this one 255 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:10,720 taste? Yes? Okay? Crazy? So that came out like last year 256 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,640 I brought this up. Everyone's like, what the hell are you talking about? 257 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,839 This is the most insane cult that no one's talking about. Yeah, 258 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,319 right, you have a cult of a bunch of horny, gross guys that 259 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,720 want to finger girls and somehow that is the cult. Yeah, that's the 260 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,000 cult. Yeah. Yeah, she's like, what, it's genius. It's 261 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:33,240 like, guys, do you want to pay to like pretend to be learning 262 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,200 how to finger bang women? And like you just have to pay us this 263 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:41,759 whole membership fee. But then the problem is you got to get women, 264 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,079 and there's not a ton of women that are like, you know what, 265 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,599 I want to be fingered by gross guys and you really want to you don't. 266 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,920 You want to be like junior supervisory And that's what it's like, do 267 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,319 you want to buy a house or what? And they're like all right, 268 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,799 now what got them in trouble is when they tried to pivot. So they're 269 00:17:59,799 --> 00:18:03,119 like, all right now the cult is moving to we're not just finger banging 270 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,160 girls, we're also stroking dicks. Oh yes, that's right. Yeah, 271 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,960 and we need some women to like, yeah, learn the art of like 272 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,519 stroking a guy off this master stroke thing. We don't have women that will 273 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:18,319 do it just voluntarily. They are paying us, so we're going to pay 274 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,880 you. And that's when it became like prostitution, that right, And so 275 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,680 I looked her up. I can't think of the cult. Yes, she 276 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:29,359 was a chick, the startup in San Francisco. Not only that she had 277 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,839 branched this out to like twenty different countries. Right, it turns out there's 278 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,519 lots of guys that give me want a finger? Girl? What? No, 279 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,759 So she expanded this and shockingly, when I looked her up, I 280 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:45,920 assumed she was arrested or something. This is insane, right, nothing, 281 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,640 no charge has been filed, and like some of the accounts are from you 282 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,039 know, six years ago, which you never know that with time and whatnot. 283 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,599 But I think she's still conducting business in some sort of yeah oh yeah, 284 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:03,160 yeah yeah, because how would she go? I mean really, why 285 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:08,359 what law really did she break? I guess prostitution that's what they were bringing 286 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,000 her up on, right, Yeah, But then you got all these women 287 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:14,359 that are like, well I was there, willing, I was doing this 288 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:19,039 really right, Yeah, but you still can't extort men for as much as 289 00:19:19,079 --> 00:19:23,160 they would like to be extorted. I mean, she was taking money for 290 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:27,799 prostitution survices. Hey, did you see how she first initially raised money for 291 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,759 that business? Adventure capitalists like how she was like getting an evaluation. She 292 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:40,119 started off by holding, like our first round of getting money raising funds by 293 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:48,359 being finger banks. Wow, this is hot. I'm into this. But 294 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:52,599 remember they also made it like some sort of weird like double worshiping thing like 295 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:56,839 rows were like, no, but it's not just regular finger banging guys, 296 00:19:57,039 --> 00:20:03,400 like this is very special dated. Yeah, let's take a let's take a 297 00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:07,480 quick break. Okay, we're back. You interrupt You didn't interrupt me? 298 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:15,200 Oh I thought, sorry, no ban banging finger bang theater. Hey, 299 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:18,559 don't get mad at me, get mad at this is okay. They brought 300 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:22,559 it up. They're gonna get mad at you. Do you even know me? 301 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,559 And less they're both like orgasmic meditation. Hello, Hello, Yeah, 302 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,599 we love the cult ship? Do you? Yeah? Um? Do you? 303 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:33,880 Uh? Speaking of cults, there's some really good ones. Something from 304 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,200 the past. Uh did you see Holy Hell? That was a crazy dog? 305 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,039 No, you told me about that a long time ago. I don't 306 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,559 think I ever watched it. Yeah, it's you know, it's goes where 307 00:20:44,599 --> 00:20:48,960 all cults go. Eventually the leader starts banging everybody, um, and then 308 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:52,400 he I think he got on a plane and flew to Thailand and he's there 309 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,640 now. Um, were none of these cult leaders in jail, Yeah, 310 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:03,440 except for the Nexium Naxium. Poor Alison whatever. I think she's in jail. 311 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:04,759 She was the one who tried to suck me into the sex cult. 312 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,960 Did you know that, bat I did not know that. Actually, the 313 00:21:08,039 --> 00:21:11,599 last podcast with Terse Strosster, I had no idea about the Chelsea Handler relationship. 314 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,920 I was blown away by that. Really. Yeah, and she wouldn't 315 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:21,640 allow her quote on the cover of your book. Whatever, Patreon, sorry 316 00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:26,240 attack no, so um really quick, because I've told the story so many 317 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:32,240 times. But Alison what was her last name? Alison? Now that she 318 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:37,160 was from yeah, Smallville, She's called Smallville Alison. She was then Alison 319 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,119 mac with the so in Nexium in the whole sex cult thing, and she 320 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,039 was, you know, trying to recruit people. So I got a direct 321 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,559 message on Twitter. Well, she tweeted at me and she was like, 322 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,599 hey, um, what was this? I forgot two thousand and nine. 323 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,200 Maybe it was a long time ago before any of this drop for any of 324 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,559 this went crazy. Maybe no, twenty fourteen. I think it was in 325 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:06,519 twenty fourteen anyway, Yeah, because it was after I had a TV show. 326 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:10,720 Yeah. So then she she was tweeted at me and I was and 327 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:12,640 she was like, uh, hey, I'd love to talk to you about 328 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:18,200 this like women's empowerment group basically. And I was like, oh my god, 329 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,359 like, oh my god, like she's got a blue check. I 330 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,319 was so important, Like this is crazy, like I did a TV show. 331 00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:29,039 I mean my TV shows not even that big, Like, oh my 332 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,000 god. So I have to friend her on Twitter in order for her to 333 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:36,880 direct message me. This was back in the day and you didn't just have 334 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,480 open dms, right, So then she messages me and she's like hi, 335 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:45,000 like um yeah, and it's like right to the point, this is like 336 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:49,200 a but it reeked of an MLM to me in a way because it was 337 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,720 like I was like mut multi level marketing. It reeked of something where I'm 338 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,519 going to be selling leggings. You know. I just was already a little 339 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:02,599 bit wary of it. Ears yes, exactly. So she's like, um, 340 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,599 it's a women's empowerment oh, I said. So I said, is 341 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,319 this a charity? Like, because I was originally thinking she was going to 342 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,599 try to enlist me to like do a charity event, right, And and 343 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:18,880 I was like um. Basically I asked for more information. I have the 344 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,119 whole I have the message I posted every once in a while to prove it. 345 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,559 Anyway, She's roll pushy about it and she was like, no, 346 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,160 it's a women's empowerment group anyway. UM. So then I kind of blow 347 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,960 her off because mlmish. And then she again messages to me and she's like, 348 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:37,920 can I just can? I love to meet you for coffee, like 349 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:40,559 I'm in LA, I'd love to meet you for coffee to talk more about 350 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:44,240 this. And then I was like this bitch b cray. So I blow 351 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:47,480 her off. And then years later, a few years later, the next 352 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:51,200 she's in the headline news and John's like, oh my god, isn't that 353 00:23:51,319 --> 00:23:52,880 the one who tried to recruit you to be part of this? And I'm 354 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,240 like, oh my god, I was this close to being in a second 355 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,799 now not that close, Steph. That speaks to you that your ears were 356 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,599 perked up and you knew better. But so many people don't. I know 357 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,200 that was a sex cult. I just thought that she would have gone in 358 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,640 I don't, like, I'm not a joiner, So I was like, 359 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:15,160 I don't know, this sounds like something that is involving pressure. This doesn't 360 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,039 sound like she wants me to help speak at a or be part of a 361 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,720 charity. It sounds like women's empowerment is something very off about. Well, 362 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:26,079 it turned out it she was. Once we watched the doc it was that 363 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,680 documentary that was all the women what it was called something Jans Janess. Yeah, 364 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:36,039 yeah, yeah, that's not the HBO produced one that has had two 365 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:37,200 seasons, right, wasn't Yeah, no, it was. It was in 366 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,720 there. Yeah. No, But first they called themselves Janas or Janess or 367 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,480 whatever, and then that. But it was this guy, the volleyball guy, 368 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:48,720 Keith Ranieri was was involved in the whole thing. But that's where they 369 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,599 start you with the Janas thing, and then what they once they get you 370 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,480 skinny enough, you know the then they put you on a diet. You 371 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,119 gotta do some intermittent fasting to get skinny enough for Keith rane Then they start 372 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,880 branding you and you you got to have a master, and you gotta have 373 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:06,880 Yeah, you gotta report to your master. Yeah, here's the crazy thing. 374 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,599 So I would passively watch that talk and every once in a while I 375 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:14,319 was astounded by how much footage they have of Chrise Keith Ranery just talking to 376 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,039 essentially his cult members. The man talked in circles. Anybody would have a 377 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,759 brain, forgive me. He'd be like, you know, um, the 378 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,079 meaning of life is what life does to yourself and the outside of our being 379 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,680 is what we give to ourselves and to others. And I'm like, he 380 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:37,160 just said nothing, and people are like nodding their heads because he just uses 381 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,920 a bunch of words and talks and circles. His whole thing was, um, 382 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,160 I'm not going to compare that to scientology, but it was kind of 383 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,000 like a self help thing that spun into essentially a sec I just never understood 384 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:55,079 why I couldn't be a cult leader like I can talk. I feel like 385 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,400 I'm a good like. I love sales, yeah you know what I mean, 386 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,200 which I feel like it is a big part of it. Step let 387 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:04,079 me tell you selling. The makeup of a good cult leader is blind ambition 388 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:11,319 and a complete lack of morals. And you can be no, yeah, 389 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:15,359 I do have some morals, that is true, But I feel like just 390 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:19,720 the sucking people in and then like talking to them about nothing for hours on 391 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,559 end. I can handle that. Well, that's the Achilles heel. Of 392 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:26,839 a horny guy. Yeah, although I'd have to be drinking a lot. 393 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,200 I'd have to go back to drinking or at least being high where you're like, 394 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,920 okay, hold on, I think I figured out life right. And 395 00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:37,920 then my cult members would be like, are you high? And I'd be 396 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,880 like a little bit, but not that bad. I could totally drive right 397 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,240 now. What's that? Dylan? Hi? Dyls. Hey, you guys 398 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:49,480 don't watch any of the Real Housewives of Jersey, do you? Now? 399 00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:52,559 I can't stand those people. They remind me too much of the people that 400 00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:56,839 I grew up. I'm from Massachusetts. Just that very thick, annoying accent. 401 00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:02,279 Everything's Italian rules to I mean, you can get away with committing happy 402 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:08,039 everybody. Yeah, how are you sorry? I'm late, Idell. I 403 00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:15,319 watched the reunion. Uh Teresa dch makes me kind of violently angry. I 404 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,640 need to talk, yeahs her husband. I can't stand so Joe Judas no 405 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,920 I love now he's gone husband. Yeah, he's a piece and his fucking 406 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,559 private eye Buka top Yeah, he made about him played by Stephen Baldwin. 407 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,400 Really, oh yeah, he's been around forever since I just can I just 408 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:45,079 interject that um on real households of Beverly Hills. You know how dret Um 409 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,160 took over a Buka to Beppo. Yeah, and was redesigning one of the 410 00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:56,440 rooms. That's my bud. It's like blocks from my house. She doesn't 411 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,319 live too far away. I don't think, oh really, yeah, I 412 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,240 think she lives in the Okay, it's okay, such a it's such a 413 00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:07,519 Buca to Beppo though. It's like it's really like the McDonald's of like Italian 414 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:10,240 food. Yeah. I was not going to say, I hope I don't 415 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:15,079 offend you or anything, but is an absolutely disgusting place. I mean their 416 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:21,319 bread is really good. It's it's not like a fantasy, not athentic. 417 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,119 At was that offensive? Well, it's no olive garden. It's better. 418 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,279 It's family. Yeah, no, it's like you're it's a great place to 419 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,880 take your kids if you don't mind like just a cacophony, yeah, of 420 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,839 just screaming and dishes clattering and yelling. I ordered a caesar salad. Families 421 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,640 off from there came out with anchovies anchovi warning. Well, it was probably 422 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:48,200 on the menu. This is what's so insane about pat A little warning when 423 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:56,000 you put anchovies in my caesar salad, which is notoriously an anchovy rich. 424 00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,160 I mean the dressing is made of anchovie. Klin. I know you don't 425 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,519 have a microphone, but you can just not. But you love I bet 426 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:12,680 you love anchovies because yeah, you like seafood. That's another caliber of fishiness, 427 00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:18,599 fishy smell. I think the Jews love anchovies and the Italians linettes like 428 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,000 an honorary, and the Italians probably we have palets for that. We like 429 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,279 salt. Yeah, my mother would make linguini anchovies Christmas time. Yeah, 430 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:33,759 yum, I'd be real thinnic. Know what were you guys talking about finger 431 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:41,359 banging aging? We talked, We talked a little. There's a new version 432 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,839 of To Catch a Predator. We talked about a couple of docks orgasmic meditation. 433 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,119 One taste when I brought it up on our podcast about the girl who 434 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,640 has like the finger banging cult? Oh yeah, like, how do you 435 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,279 watch those things? I don't know, Yeah, Pat, just watch us 436 00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,720 the most awful So I love it. I love those docs. Yeah, 437 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,640 I want more cults, more cult stuff. What else where do we stand 438 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,240 with the curious case of Natalie Grace Natalia Grace. Um, oh my god, 439 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,519 that was so much craziness. That was one of the craziest, not 440 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,720 since Abducted in Plain Sight has something like rung my bell like like this. 441 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,519 I mean remember Obducted in Plain Sight? How much fun we had talked about, 442 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,559 Like how they're like, oh no, you abducted and and molested our 443 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:33,240 daughter again? Not again. I thought this time would be defra was Natalia 444 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:34,559 Grace thing? Well, that's the one we talked about on the last PMC 445 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,039 that we just with the little orphans, the chucky, the living chucky dog. 446 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,599 Yeah, dude, you know what's so crazy? I would have I 447 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,680 would have just fucking kicked that little thing. Every guy I talked to said 448 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,160 the same thing, every guy of doctor, like, I would have knocked 449 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,079 that that person standing in front of my child or in front of my bed 450 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:59,279 with a knife, are you kidding me? And the chapponappened. She was 451 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,519 a little girl who you need to punch in the face, donkey, kick 452 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,720 in the faces those crazy fucking parents. Well, this is where he says, 453 00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:10,400 it's a little bit more wrinkly. While the last episode, the son 454 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:14,559 and the father are caught talking of I think they kick off Mike about how 455 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:17,599 the mother had thrown her down the stairs, had abused her, and they 456 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,839 had videotape of her, of the mom, of the mom putting her face 457 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,119 against a wall for twelve hours and she pete and pooped herself. Did you 458 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,640 watch the whole documentary? To be fair enough, all I know is that's 459 00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,000 proven that she was a little girl, she had baby teeth. Yes, 460 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:37,680 there is DNA tests that the ones who are crazy, it's unreliable narrators that 461 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,839 these adoptive parents were absolutely batchelor to Phil really let her have it. Well, 462 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:48,720 in the hypothetical where I opened up my home to a beautiful little Ukrainian 463 00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:55,519 girl, she turns out to be a fucking murdering gypsy. You're hypothetical. 464 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,519 But in the real world, in the real world, I didn't know about 465 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:01,920 it. But they made the horror movie. The horror movie had already come 466 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,880 out. That's where these freaking crazy ass people got the idea for for saying 467 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,440 that, yes, the movie the Orphan had already come out. These people 468 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,319 got to say that, well, the good news we're going to hear from 469 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,880 her her side of the story drops at the end of the summer. Yeah, 470 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,880 but the poor girl's been completely gas lit, totally, totally saybody should 471 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,279 kick her in the face. Nobody should kick her in the face, especially 472 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,960 not you. No, no, I have no way to do it. 473 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,119 To do it? Dare you? Can we plug adopt her? Yes? 474 00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:43,119 Plug with a show that we're doing that I think is our best work ever 475 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:46,839 on bad TV Y Flavor of Love season two. O my god, did 476 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,359 you watch Flavor of Love when it first aired in two face? Of course? 477 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,079 Of course it kept a nation's spell bound. Quite honestly. They don't 478 00:32:54,119 --> 00:33:00,359 make reality TV like that anymore. It's such a it's people Flavor of way. 479 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,920 There's this concept where New York was introduced in the first season. There's 480 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,079 this concept called totalitarian art, where something is so good that it just it 481 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,559 reverberates in your soul. Godfather ulysses stuff like that. I would argue that 482 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:21,359 flavor Flavor is in its own theater. On par with that. There are 483 00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:25,720 a contestant ships on the floor the way is it now? No? Her 484 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:30,559 name was something he and okay, okay okay on the floor. So there's 485 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:36,279 a there's a renaming ceremony that takes place every first episode. Because flav is 486 00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:38,680 bad with names. So what he'll do is someone will walk up to him 487 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:43,359 and he will say, you have eyes, I'm gonna call you eyes, 488 00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:50,359 or I'm gonna call you like that like that. Yeah, yeah yeah. 489 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,839 There was this woman who was like, I'm not skinny, I'm not fat. 490 00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:00,400 It's like that, and so he called her like that. I love 491 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:07,119 that. I am She wasn't fat, she wasn't fat, quite abasi she 492 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:14,079 was fat. Yeah. So anyways, you have a lot of fun, 493 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,800 but we can't. I'll tell you what every episode don't and I watched. 494 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,360 We can't believe what was allowed back then. The renaming sari ceremony is absolutely 495 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,519 insane, completely degrading. So you're watching old, an old season of it. 496 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:30,440 Yeah, people love it. It's so we in our Uh it's on 497 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,199 Prime, you can buy it on Prime, it's about, it's on Rumble, 498 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,440 it's on YouTube, it's on for Chan, it's everywhere. And this 499 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:42,800 sum around they don't this sum around, they on sense, right, So 500 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,800 when the girls naked, when they're swearing, it's all there for us. 501 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,719 So what season are you watching? Watching Season two? We covered season one 502 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,280 on Patreon. I am so scared of it. Yeah, we hope that 503 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,239 never gets on. When we had on a guest on our show, somebody 504 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,920 from from that show, I did end up going to jail to jail right 505 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:07,079 right on the trail. Well, one of those girls came on our podcast. 506 00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:13,679 Remember she came on Charmaine Charmonade or something like that. She you know 507 00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:16,679 what. She came on Certain Skill rewind to talk about jail, to talk 508 00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:21,199 about the prison systema she'd spent time in jail, right, and she went 509 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,679 to jail with our girl Betty. Yes, she went to Yes Betty Broad 510 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,199 Hetty bront about she was from Flavor of Love, that this might be a 511 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,360 girl from this season. So a girl gets tossed out the first night because 512 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,639 in the first five minutes she literally starts beating the shit out of another girl. 513 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,599 And I looked her up to ask her, Hey, would you like 514 00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:45,360 to come on the pod or share your experience season two? And when I 515 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,000 started her out, she, uh, there was a lot of news items 516 00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:54,280 about arrests. It's Charmaine Charma something like that. Oh, it's it's okay, 517 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,559 it is her, right, yeah it is. Yeah, that's so 518 00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:00,320 crazy, Okay, all right, so she's landed on her feet. She 519 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:08,280 has had multiple names so she was Sapphire girl, Sapphire Sapphire, but also 520 00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:15,920 her name and he renames these people, so I'm not sure. Safari h 521 00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:21,039 y R. She landed on her feet. She has a very successful chapstick 522 00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:25,639 business. Yeah really, I follow her on Instagram. She was a really 523 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,039 fun guest, like she was it, I told Patton the first episode. 524 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:34,000 The most heartbreaking part about it is that she gets kicked off night one. 525 00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:38,280 She was amazing, but she beat the fuck out of well, you know, 526 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:45,519 happened the other girl. The other girl had claimed a bed. Htown 527 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:53,199 had claimed the bad and she looks like a girl Scout grew up. She's 528 00:36:53,239 --> 00:37:00,559 just the most jugie white chick possible. She's frail. She's there to be 529 00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,760 on VH one. Anyways, she claims a bed web he just used the 530 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,079 word shoogi. Yeah, uh, Sapphire wants the bed. She goes, 531 00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,840 hey, that's my bed. Sapphire says, I don't give a fuck. 532 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,840 Much like prison, it's kind of this, yeah, exactly. You have 533 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,320 to claim your car. And so they proceed to fight, and Hdown does 534 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,760 not think it's gonna go the way it goes, but she's quickly thrown into 535 00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:31,199 a jiu jitsu level, full bodyguard and Sapphire's punching the fuck. Oh my 536 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:37,639 god, and it's it's night one. It's so great on the ground something 537 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:46,360 Oh why flavor. Flavor had delayed the clock ceremony by a good long day, 538 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,760 like four hours, Jesus, Lord of the Rings remastered. Yeah, 539 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,119 she didn't know. I think production kept telling her he's going to be here. 540 00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:59,559 You know, you can't use the restroom. Yeah, so unfortunately for 541 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:07,280 something. Yeah, so something. They all toast to survival and something dips 542 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:14,000 down, dips back up, goes upstairs and there's ship. There's ship in 543 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,480 the foyer. There's ship on the stairs. And Flave goes into the bathroom 544 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:20,440 and he's like what's going on and she's like, you need to leave me 545 00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:23,039 the fuck alone. I have to take a ship. And we were just 546 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:28,320 like so proud of her brazenness because she was like, fuck you guys, 547 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:34,480 Yeah, I shit on the floor. What I am have like mad respect 548 00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:37,239 for is the fact that like I can't even pee in a public restroom if 549 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:43,119 there's other people in other stalls, yeah, let alone. Like I would 550 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,039 have not gone to the bathroom in like five days, Like there's no way 551 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:50,559 my body alerted me less time to take a poop while I'm on TV. 552 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,880 Well, we we talked about this when we were covering it the you're bout 553 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,920 and I don't want to get too gross about it, but your bowels are 554 00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:02,079 kind of outside yourself. It has like kind of a soul of its own, 555 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:07,760 so when you have to go, there's really no tamping it down. 556 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,239 Like if you're not feeling well, if you're not feeling but psychologically your body 557 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,159 can go like you know what, you have a new boyfriend, You're not 558 00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:19,199 going to need to go to the bathroom exactly. That's how girls are. 559 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,639 Yeah, that's how girls are. I was like, why is she in 560 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,960 the shower so long? It's how guys are, too not quite too quite 561 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:30,639 guys are. I don't think pigs are the ones to leave the door open 562 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,599 the second date. Like, yeah, but Pat and I both have laid 563 00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:37,320 away. I mean, Pat's courted many more women than I have. But 564 00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:45,559 I said many more women. You don't have to me, I fucked. 565 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:53,039 I know we've laid next to women with our guts just like balloons. Just 566 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,800 just I'm not going to sleep, but I can't fart in case she wakes 567 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,880 up because I have to, you know, the things we do to keep 568 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,920 it take care of health. Yeah yeah, yeah. On that note, 569 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:12,760 should we take another break? We're back chat fireside, fart chat. So 570 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,000 what else do you guys? What else? I love below Deck? I 571 00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:21,920 love it, and you can find that all on the bad TV feed wherever. 572 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:27,719 You're still unrolling his eyes though, because is disappointing us. It's not 573 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,320 Jumped the Shark because below Deck is amazing, but below Deck is not treated 574 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:38,280 well by Bravo. I agree, it's ridiculous. Um, they think they're 575 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,840 hard, they're if I'm the hardest working to jump in sorry, go ahead, 576 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,639 Yeah, I mean how hard heart? How hard that that crew works? 577 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,920 You know? I mean they work, they bust their ass, they 578 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,440 do and it's incredibly easy work. But they do do a lot. Here's 579 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,719 the problem with this season of sailing, Yeah, Dylan, I cover it 580 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,800 all. This season. We have cast members that have been on for this 581 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,760 their third season. They're getting a little too comfortable. Yes, and for 582 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,239 some whatever reason, producers think that we want to see the drama of their 583 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,039 essentially being a throuble. Yeah, and the females to play. I agree, 584 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,639 and we don't care. I'm I don't like I'm sick of what's his 585 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,159 face carry? I am sick of he grosses me out to be good. 586 00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:28,320 Look, look, look, I don't like him. But he seems to 587 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,599 be the heart throb every season, and it's been yeah, why is he 588 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:34,960 except for the first season? Why they? Why do they? He just 589 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,639 he has this tried and true Coxman game. It just works in this sphere 590 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:47,400 that he exists in because everyone's drunk, everyone's a runaway, limited options, 591 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,360 you're all trapped on a boat, right, So, but the throuble thing, 592 00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:58,519 it's interesting after a while. But if you watch enough below deck, 593 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,599 you know that, like what happened to the end of the last episode, 594 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,519 they serve them a cake for dessert. I didn't see the last episode. 595 00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,119 They make a cake for the charter guests. They eat half the cake. 596 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:15,079 They bring the cake downstairs and the sea rats begin consuming the cake, and 597 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,440 one of the sea rats says, should we not do this in case the 598 00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:22,519 guests want more cake? And the lead searette says, shut the fuck up. 599 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,440 Then the charter guests, who are paying exorbitant amounts of money, so 600 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,480 can we have another piece of cake? The searetes have gnarled it to pieces. 601 00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:36,800 So there's a little bit of tension there. That's what we want, 602 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,360 people making bad decisions, yes, right, And we also love Dylan always 603 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,840 puts this the best uh is it's uh thrusting incompetence upon wealthy people paying for 604 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,000 these pas. It's just a perfect I mean, there's has to have been 605 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:54,679 like three hundred episodes of this. Dylan and I have probably covered more than 606 00:42:54,719 --> 00:43:00,320 half of it. Don't break the formula it's working. Don't bring this summer 607 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,880 house kind of romances to this. You know, let summer House be summer 608 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,920 House. What Bravo's doing now is they never give them reunions. Fucking Southern 609 00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:15,519 Charm gets red. Yeah, no one watches Southern char right right. Um, 610 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:21,039 But now they have started to release two episodes of Below Deck a week, 611 00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:24,400 which is this like, let's just get through the season. We're done. 612 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,119 It's like what I thought about this doing. Have you guys noticed? 613 00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,400 And it started with the Bachelor staff. You guys, are you guys still 614 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,599 covering that on Rosebrooks? I assume you are. Oh yeah, We've We've 615 00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,039 just done our cast Roast three episode. Three episodes of Cast roast where we 616 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:44,719 talk, where we make snap judgments about all the guys, just pure fun 617 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,280 facts. That is such a there's no height. There's a great idea. 618 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,079 I think there was a misstep. S already just turn this to Bachelor because 619 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:55,239 we're not going to be covering it. But thank you for doing God's work. 620 00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,800 But um, I think they miss missed up in their choice of the 621 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,880 bachelorette. It should have been forgive me before I even brought the subject. 622 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,119 I should have thought of the girl's name. There was a girl from the 623 00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:13,960 last season of The Bachelor, Ariel. She was her first off. Her 624 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,800 family looked like they were in the Russian mob. That would have been fascinating. 625 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,079 Um, and she was from New York. I think, excuse me, 626 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:22,880 I think she would have given her suitors a real run for their money. 627 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,719 Instead, we've picked, as they often do, just the nice girl, 628 00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:32,679 probably a little passive with this bizarre Philly accent that's by way of Georgia 629 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,719 that just does not hit the ears right. It's just I have a theory. 630 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,199 Do you want to hear? My theory is that they thought Ariel was 631 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,440 going to be the bachelorette. I think they kind of were thinking of her 632 00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:49,440 because a lot of these guys are like from New York. They're they're way 633 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,079 edgier than what Charity. Oh so you're saying in the casting that they had 634 00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:58,719 already I think they last minute decided to have Charity be the bachelorette. I 635 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,159 think they'd already been casting for with Ariel in mind. These guys are very 636 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,800 They're very not what Charity would what I think she would like ros Wall Street 637 00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:14,880 Ros. Yeah, finance Bros. Um uh, which I know is Wall 638 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,920 Street Bros. But like no, but like a lot of software sales, 639 00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:21,639 a lot of and a lot of them are from New York people who are 640 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,440 like, how do you make four hundred grand a year from steal from dummies 641 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,320 that give me their money to invest. Yeah, But normally for a girl 642 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,840 like Charity, they would have like a guy, guys from San Diego who 643 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,840 played baseball like they would given baseball, or guys from the South who are 644 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,360 like yeah, it's like a like nice guys who are really into family. 645 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,360 These are these Why do they got a bunch of East Coast guys? Now? 646 00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,000 Yeah, That's what I'm saying because I think that they thought Ariel because 647 00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:52,159 she was number three third runner up and she's beautiful. Oh god. And 648 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,480 I think everyone thought she was going to get it. Yeah, mistake on 649 00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:59,559 their part. I don't know where the future of I hope. I hope 650 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,440 that running, you know, so that you guys can be successful recapping it. 651 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,400 But I don't know. Everyone I talked to I ask if they're watching 652 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,480 it, they're like, I left that a long time ago or whatever. 653 00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:15,840 You know, they need to do something smutty or something well. People have 654 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:21,280 talked about having Rachel aka Raquel, someone like that kind of figure, b 655 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,840 the bachelortte, someone a well known either villain or something, just to make 656 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,159 it fun and bring the audience back. I wish you could have been here 657 00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:30,920 when you guys are talking about Vanderpump. Did you guys talk about Vanderpump a 658 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,400 lot? We didn't talk about it at all. Oh really? Did you 659 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,920 talk about it last time you're on? I don't remember, but I think 660 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,280 Stephen Lenette have covered it quite a bit. You know. I covered it 661 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,440 with Cecily on Rose Pricks. That was our whole Thursday. Every Thursday, 662 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,800 we covered every episode of it. Yeah, it was really fun. Thank 663 00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:52,840 the reality TV God's really handed all us podcasts a little gift for that spring. 664 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,599 Yeah, um, if I can just theory on this idea that we 665 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,400 want to watch two hours of a television show. It started with The Bachelor, 666 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,480 and then they got real greedy with the oh, Monday Night, Tuesday 667 00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,159 Night, and then my god, yeah, the biggest, the worst, 668 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,400 the worst. You and I need to talk about nights of it for two 669 00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,800 freaking hours. We dread it because you gotta take notes and try and be 670 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,320 funny. But it's a half filler. It's an hour filler. Well that's 671 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,800 what I feel like they're doing with Below Deck. Dylan. I think seems 672 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,599 to think that they're just dumping these episodes so then get through it. I 673 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,079 think they're learning. They've done some kind of math where ninety day Fiance does 674 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:35,519 two hours, Married at First Site does two hours, I have to give 675 00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,000 up a married at First Site. By the way, they're on episode twenty 676 00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:40,400 seven. I now it goes on too long, and I think it's crazy. 677 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,639 And then and then by like halfway through, you're like, I gotta 678 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,159 just read spoilers, spoilers, or I'll leave it on. But now I'm 679 00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:50,440 going to do some work, right, you know, And I think Below 680 00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:52,840 Deck might they might have done the math, like on a Monday night. 681 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,679 If people are tuning for the first episode of Below Deck, fuck it, 682 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,039 they're so dumb and into it. They're not even going to know that a 683 00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:00,920 second episode starts up right behind it. And it's just it's easier to keep 684 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,679 people somewhere, sitting somewhere than it is to put a second, a different 685 00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:07,400 show on and try and get them into it. So I think that's their 686 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,679 mouth and I hate them for it. I hate them for it. I 687 00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:15,679 had to stop with Married at first sight because the casting was just like, 688 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,159 these people are never going to end up too, are you crazy? Like 689 00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:24,159 they don't even like each of these from the beginning. Anybody watched Survivor at 690 00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:28,920 all? A lot of people still watch that. I love. I know 691 00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:35,119 you love. Survivor's still going strong. I can't. It's Survivor needs to 692 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,920 be the way I watched Survivor is I have Survivor experts in my life. 693 00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:45,119 Rubs is a massive encyclopedia of Survivor. They tell you which seasons you should 694 00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:51,000 watch, and every time it's an unbelievable season of television. I don't know 695 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:52,679 why I don't watch it every season. All right, I need a season 696 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,199 to watch because I feel like I should watch. I want the Millennials one 697 00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:00,280 is so good. The Millennials first. In what years have we talked about 698 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:06,199 too? Is there a particular like Millennials one was probably the teens, somewhere 699 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,400 in the mid teens. Honestly, just google best season, That's what I 700 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:13,920 did. But the Millennial one is a fantastic place to start. Also, 701 00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:16,800 Mike White is on a season or two the wa I want to see that. 702 00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:22,360 But he's really serious, rightly. Oh he's like writer from White Lotus. 703 00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:25,760 Yeah, yeah, wow, I'll watch that one. Oh he's what's 704 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,559 fucking incredible on it? He's so good really, and they all know he's 705 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:35,679 himself, so they all know. Like some people, I mean some people 706 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,199 don't sound like I don't think a lot of people would walk by him on 707 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,719 the street know who he is. But it is the guy from Dewey's roommate 708 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,000 from School of Rock, from School of Rock. Um, but he's like, 709 00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:51,519 you know, people in my industry they want to win an Oscar. 710 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,239 I want to win an Academy and Warren I fucking survivor. I love it. 711 00:49:55,639 --> 00:50:00,519 He's just he's amazing. That's awesome. Spoiler I think. I think 712 00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:02,280 when the kids get a little older, that's something that I'll jump on. 713 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,559 Yeah. I assume it's going to go on until twenty years after I'm dead, 714 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,960 because it just works. And Probest is he's the best self sustaining. 715 00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:15,559 Yeah. The thing I don't like about Survivor though, and this is a 716 00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:22,360 problem I have with a lot of reality shows like Survivor adventure shows, is 717 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:28,440 there's too much um actual adventure. Like I want the art and give them 718 00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:32,719 enough time to like have interpersonal disasters. It's all like, Okay, it's 719 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,280 time to do the thing, and it's always the same thing. It's like 720 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,920 it's the obstacle course where you're gonna end up having to hang off of a 721 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:46,639 bar whoever can. Sometimes the stakes are pretty high and people need you to 722 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,880 do this or that you know they're dead. That's when it can get pretty 723 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:57,280 exciting. The beautiful thing about Survivor is Probest is just a consummate professional. 724 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,400 He's incredible. He's the best reality TV host in the world. Anyways, 725 00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:09,920 the mechanism and the game play is so disgusting. People do inhumane things to 726 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,679 one another. Guy said his grandmother died, did he? Yeah, Johnny 727 00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:22,480 fairplay full backstab one another, people lie to it's it's really it's subhuman. 728 00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:27,320 Shit gets done um, which is really really fun to watch. But I 729 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,960 remember a famous clip when Tim Robbins was still married to Susan Surrandon. I 730 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,559 think they've gotten a divorce and it was like season three or Survivor and they 731 00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:37,320 went on like entertainment tonight and I remember them. I'm not sure if the 732 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,039 clip Survive you can find on YouTube. They're talking about Survivor and how it's 733 00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:46,320 really the end of civilization and how families should not be watching it and thank 734 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,400 god they're pretty sure reality this reality TV thing is going to be done in 735 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,199 a couple of years. Oh my god, Susan Surandon is insufferable. She 736 00:51:54,440 --> 00:52:00,199 is. Yeah, we introduce you to Life after lock Up, Susan surrender. 737 00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:06,159 Are you guys still watching Life after lock Up? Though we might do 738 00:52:06,519 --> 00:52:08,280 Life during lock Up? The problem with a lot of these reality shows, 739 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:13,360 and you probably run into it to Steph is the cooked parts of reality TV. 740 00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:16,480 They you Mommy Burger, the ship, there's two, there's a couple 741 00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:22,159 locations. Oh this is cool. The fries are nine dollars and then they 742 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:27,199 make too many ummmy burgers, they scale too much. Yes, and they 743 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,400 don't like the original version of Love after lock Up. I love the first 744 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,320 like three seasons, and then they started realized like, hey, we don't 745 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,519 need to pay these people. We can get them too. We can just 746 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,360 tell them what to do on camera, and we can make a whole season 747 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,000 out of it. But it's poorly acted. It's yeah, clearly cooked, 748 00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:46,960 and it's really bad lazy TV. If you thought, like, think about 749 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:53,760 a fentol addict taking stage direction, it's worse than you could ever imagine. 750 00:52:53,800 --> 00:53:00,400 And also it gets really tough for us to when children are in because a 751 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,360 lot of kids get involved. Yeah, that's time we have to turn into 752 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,920 awful, monstrous people if we're going to laugh about that stuff, which we 753 00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:14,800 do um with great applaum, but um, it's really it's just a bummer 754 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,079 to watch. Yeah, I don't like that. That's why I like, 755 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,280 I'd rather do a show like you know, the Married at First Sight or 756 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,920 whatever, because at least these most of them don't have kids. Yeah, 757 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,239 that's that's tough for me. Whenever there's kids involved, I almost don't want 758 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,280 to recap the reality five kids in a two bedroom apartment, They're like, 759 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:40,039 who wants to move to They this is your daddy now, yeah, yeah, 760 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,039 just got out of jail. Well love after lock Up Laugh last season, 761 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:47,920 and I know the cast members do list to our podcast. I would 762 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,320 say to this one guy who was the worst human being ever, I'd say, 763 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,079 I will fight you for ten thousand dollars. I would lose that fight. 764 00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:58,719 I wouldn't way to do it because I just want to get a few 765 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,199 punches in on his face. Yes, he was just just going around the 766 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,679 world and pregnating whoever and then saying God told him to do it, and 767 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,599 I just want to punch him in the fat soul. Fett and all had 768 00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:13,400 four, five different kids. And he says, I don't have time for 769 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:19,440 that right now. Oh God, he said. I maybe he was so 770 00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:22,199 busy. He was trying to start a sneaker lineup. He was trying to 771 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:27,360 get back in. That's a lot. That's hard. Have you ever tried 772 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,599 to start a sneaker business? No, you don't know how. That's a 773 00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:32,800 lot of fun. Got to work the phone. I'm a fucking loser. 774 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,880 I don't have an entrepreneur TV for living no, I know, but she's 775 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:43,400 being Pachiti. Now what So, uh, every day you guys have an 776 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,239 episode, it's a lot so bad TV has we dropped in a single week 777 00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:52,800 Flavor of Love season two, an episode U two Below Deck episodes in the 778 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:59,480 Bad TV feed? Uh oh before the ninety day. So that's four shows 779 00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:01,599 a week in justin Wow. Okay, guys are busy, Yeah, all 780 00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:06,000 right, and then we're going back into the vault for Belowdeck. Well, 781 00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:07,320 we just started and we had to turn it off for a second because we're 782 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:12,119 too busy. We started going back to season one of Below Deck. So 783 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,840 it was actually it's actually a ten year anniversary. We need Lynnett and Steph 784 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,000 to come on and do a PMZ. I'd love that, or cover a 785 00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:23,559 Blowdeck episode recount. I would love that absolutely, let's do. I just 786 00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:28,599 want to tell you guys right before we wrap that, our friend Robin rob 787 00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:31,800 Hey, does she want to come to the barbecue? What barbecue? Well, 788 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,599 you don't want to go what barbecue? Barbecue? Yeah? I bet 789 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,440 she would. She once she told me today that she is loves bad TV. 790 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,800 She after hearing you guys on our show, loves it and is a 791 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,239 Patreon member now is that right? Yeah? All right, Robert, you're 792 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:52,960 invited. Stephanie, you're invited to a stinker Rinker. The other stinker Rinker. 793 00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:57,679 She lives in San Francisco. She would drive down. What I didn't 794 00:55:57,679 --> 00:55:59,559 want to tell you about it, guys, I didn't want to make you 795 00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:02,440 uncomfort because you won't want to go, and then you're gonna make me feel 796 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,599 uncomfortable by telling me that you can't make it. Well, what's the barbecue 797 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,400 we're gonna do? Uh, we're gonna do a fourth July party where we 798 00:56:08,599 --> 00:56:10,960 do uh, you know, drink, you know, barbecue, and then 799 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,000 we're gonna do karaoke at night. Okay, oh, I'm in coming. 800 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:20,280 I'll be here in the afternoon and I'll leave hours before the karaoke. Hey, 801 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,960 I got an idea. Why don't we do a podcast while the party's 802 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:29,280 going on? Do it? Five hundred fans in the parking lot. Let's 803 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,119 do it. Do a podcas Honestly, when he's when he said barbecue, 804 00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:37,920 I now, huh flashbacks? All right, everybody, it was so good 805 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:43,079 to he Thank you guys so much on our show. You guys anytime. 806 00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:46,039 Thank you for letting us use your space. Our space, our space. 807 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,800 Thank you, thank you, all right, love you guys. Guys like 808 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,119 it in here. We love we love it, we love it. Thank 809 00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:57,599 we. Freedom. All right, everybody now, don't suck it up, 810 00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:02,880 don't fuck it up. Still hidden, letting go,