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Steve Ribera and Jacob Salads. They
have their eye on the ball on Tucson

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Sports Stage shat Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back tying the ball

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here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now we

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have Kevin le breaking news, his
eye on the ball breaking news on Fox

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Sports fourteen fifty. All right,
so let's just go ahead and start with

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the news kind of touchdown earlier Tommy
Lloyd going ahead and leading USA Basketball under

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eighteen to the gold medal at the
America Cup FIBA tournament out there. Yeah,

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I didn't know that. Well,
he took some of his guys justin

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there's a picture of him. Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's

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great now now he just say no, they just started workouts. We saw

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some clips right now, there's a
there's like a world. What else did

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they do they have? I don't
think I think that's it. Oh,

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that's it. He's done. He's
done for the summer with that. Okay,

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yeah, all right, And we
saw clips about on I'm working out

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better winning than losing it, man, for sure. Right, you don't

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win one of those things that like, what the hell we invented this game?

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Why are we winning this? Yeah? And Steve mentioned earlier that you

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know, people expect to win and
then when you lose or upset, but

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if you win, they're not nearly
as happy as you might expect them to

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be. But it's funny. He
in there. I'm looking at the Arizona

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Daily Star. He had a quote
where he said, I have the same

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pressure in my day job when they
asked him about, you know, always

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being expected to bring home gold these
kind of situations. So I'm good on

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him. Where where was this at? You know, Argentina? I think

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it was Argentina. Wow? Cool, all right, very good. Five

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Arizona baseball pitchers have been selected to
the College Sports Communicators Academic All District Team.

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That would be Cam Walty, Anthony
Sussac Dawson nets, Tony Pluta,

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and Casey hints all right and then
uh, smart dudes, yes, yes

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Smiths McDonald has gotten her one hundredth
career steel in uh the La Spark's latest

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victory over the Las Vegas Aces.
That was fast, yeah, because she

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was out for Yeah she did played
for a while. Yeah, fast the

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century mark even faster hands, you
know, yeah, no, kiddy,

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Arizona was listed as the number twenty
four overall team in the most recent espn

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FPI Power Index for the upcoming preseason. At the preseason for coach football,

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Yeah, big twelve man, ready
to go, Big twelve, let's go,

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Steve, I'm ready to go.
I don't. I don't even think

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we can make a road trip,
right, we have to. You know,

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all the coaches in the Big twelve
football football, No, there no,

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no basketball mostly but not football.
No, I'm lucky to get third

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of them. Yeah, no,
I'm I'm the same way. We got

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a lot, got a lot of
homework to do, Steve before football season

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next. Well, I think your
idea of getting someone like a sky Riders

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tour ye here, Yeah, definitely
on a weekly or yeah, I'm going

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back to the w n B A. But what are your thoughts on this

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whole deal about Kaitlyn Clark not being
on the Olympic tak good question. I

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don't think that's fine. That's fine, she's not. There's two sides,

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and both have powerful arguments. But
she's not. She's not. Players.

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No, if she's not, probably
the top of the top fifteen. So

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there might be a player who may
not be able to be ready because she's

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injured from Vegas. I guess,
so there's been a spot open. Possibly

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she's still not, she's still not. I mean fair is fair. She

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shouldn't be on the team. Yeah, she shouldn't be on the same but

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you know, but the flip side
is what you know, as you said,

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the WNBA has they've got another agenda. They've got to they've got to

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get people to follow the sport.
Sure, but they're doing that. They're

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doing that. No, let me
part of horse racing that we did over

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the weekend and I do every now
and again. Is the beauty is your

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money goes against my money, and
everybody's money is collected and that's how it's

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paid out. Right, So if
you want to be foolish with your two

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dollars on the win ticket war power, that's you because I'm gonna get that

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money if you're wrong, and you're
gonna get mine if I'm wrong. So

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so I forgot where I was with
this. Whereas there's no right or wrong

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answer, but she's there's many women
who are ahead of her, So so

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is there is there a right answer
for publicity or for politics or whatever.

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Her guess what her time will come? You know, and I just think

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with what she's going through right now, with a lot of the uh,

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you know, for lack of a
very word, the resentment towards her that's

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built up, that if she gets
on the team, it would just add

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even there's some there's already so many
people saying what about me? What about

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me? And I get it,
she's bringing, she's bringing the eyeballs to

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the sport, and whether you like
it or not, you know, you

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need to make the most of that. But on the other hand, something

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like this where the olymp being on
the Olympic team is about whether you're good

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or not sure, not about whether
somebody's watching you. I thought it was,

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you know, I have zero problem
with them not putting it on The

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other I was going with the permutual
thing is mostly the people who don't know

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the game or don't know just have
some kind of opinion about it or chiming

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in when they've never watched the w
but never watched college basketball, but now

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have an opinion about it. Have
you sat down watching the NBA game,

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I still never have. I watched
the one where she got bumped in the

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bike. Just one Sunday or Saturday
morning. I said I'm gonna watch this,

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and it was there's no question they're
treating her differently. But guess what

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it happens in sports, and if
you're the star, they're gonna give you

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the treatment until you're one of them, until you're one of them, until

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you unquote earned it. And see, there's too many people who don't know

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the business who are talking to It's
like me talking about finances. What the

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hell would I know about finance now
much just because a dollar in my bucket

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doesn't mean much, well, not
anymore after after the damn Belmont Stakes.

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Right, But you know what I'm
saying a lot of people one hundred percent

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agree with you that you know,
if she's if she's not good enough,

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then she should have been on exactly. And the people who are making the

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decisions are pretty good at what they
do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And for the record, people are
kind of upset on her behalf. You

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know, she came out today and
said that she's not disappointed by the by

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the snuff, she feels like she
hasn't earned a great point and that she's

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going to use it as motivation.
Sure, that's why she didn't say she'll

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have her chance. She didn't say
this, but I'm gonna say she's played

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a lot of basketball and non stop
for the last eighteen months. Yeah,

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she's three and a half. You
probably ybe Yeah, awesome for her.

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She's been through a lot, you
know, not nothing too negative, but

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just a lot of publicity, a
lot of media, a lot of games,

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a lot of all of it.
This is the worst thing that happens

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to King Clark, She'll be okay, Yeah, exactly, a good point.

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Exactly. The Steelers have given Mike
Tomlin another three year extension. This

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follows up the last three year extension
that he signed in twenty twenty one.

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How old is he? How old
is I only asked, because he's been

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there forever like one hundred. He
could he's never has she ever? He's

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next to fifty two? He said, he's only fifty two. He said,

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dude, he's been there since he
was twelve. Then, because he's

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probably the longest tenured coach in the
league, probably he looks forty five and

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and he's probably can do no wrong. He hasn't. No, I mean,

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you know, he's got put two
championships. I don't know, I

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don't know what I think I thought
there's two more than I thought he had.

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Yeah, things got too he got
he got the one against the Cardinals.

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Right, Oh, he was the
guy No. Two nine ish.

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Yeah, but he was a coach
I think he was. Was it was?

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He not? Yes, there's two
super Bowls. Well that's why he

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can do he can do whatever he
wants to seven and seven af North.

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But he's not because it's not a
it's not a it's not the franchise that

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used to be. No. Uh, and it's not very exciting, right,

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is very exciting? Well they're not. Yeah, they don't, you

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know, yeah, they don't.
When he did have an exciting team,

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those players are kind of loco.
So with Roethlisberger and all this guys,

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one time he did have some excitement, they kind of got a little too

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exciting. So, God, he's
only fifty two. Yeah, I would

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have I would have put him late
fifties, early sixties. Yeah. We

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already talked about what happened in LA
with their coaching situation with the Lakers,

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but their former head coach, Darving
him has now returned to the Milwaukee Bucks.

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Says there their top assistant, which
was his previous role before he was

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So what do you think with the
Lakers finally get j are they going to

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get Yeah, to get that hope. I feel like that. I feel

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like he's doing such a good job
doing what he's doing now doing the podcast.

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It's more it's more about whether can
he coach an NBA team? What

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the hell? Well, it's it's
he's never been to coach. He's along.

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He's a lot like Steve Kerr.
Yeah, I think he could coach.

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I think the kids, no question. And it's whether the people believe

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in him and play in the league
and all that. I think he's got

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a lot of Steve Curry, all
right, Yeah, okay, I I

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I never paid attention to him except
when they were trying to say that he

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was a better shooter than than the
style. He's very bright. He's very

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bright, and he's and he doesn't
go back down to the stephen A's and

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the and those guys. He's very
bright. All right. Obviously he's went

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to Duke before. Did Barkley thing? Did you see that? You didn't

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see this Charles Barkley want to punch
a guy in the face. No,

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he was, he said he was
going to. He was a guy he's

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walking into the arena, you know, for for and there's some dweb I

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shouldn't even give him the attention,
you know, probably you know, probably

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a twenty year old dude yelling at
him. You never got a ring you

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saw And then and and uh,
Barkley was heard on the video. You

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know, the guy was doing it
for a click, right, somebody's video.

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And and Barkley's heard on the video
talking to his escort of his bodyguard,

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saying, what if I just punched
him in the face. He kept

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walking. You remember what happened to
the last time, through the guy,

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through the guy through a window.
Right. But you know, again,

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just a typical thing, you know, troll out there just trying to get

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the trying to get himself on TikTok. And he did. Because there's been

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like this video has been seen by
like a million. No, I didn't

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see that. Yeah, I'm looking
at it now. The video of a

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young a very young kid, and
like Luca donchis Jersey, he's probably like

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about like sixteen or whatever. And
the quote is you're you're Michael Jordan's son.

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Imagine not winning an NBA championship.
That was it. That's what he

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said. Some dude who probably just
learned how to wipe his own butt or

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maybe still doesn't know how. You
know what I'm saying something one of those

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things when people don't know you can
see this stuff because well, it's right

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to go back and hang out in
your mom's basement. Exactly. While we're

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on the topic of internet virality,
James Harden has gone over the last twenty

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four hours. I'll bring this up. Well, I mean, I know

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it's an audio platform, but James
Harden and his girlfriend we're at a wedding.

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Yeah, and they're a part of
a lot of a part a part

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of a lot of traditional weddings.
Yeah. They have the bouquet over the

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shoulder and whoever catches it, you
know, it's supposed to be next.

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Yeah, James Harden's girlfriend so happened
to catch it and look on his face.

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He got about and wide eyed like, oh no, Yeah. I

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saw a clip yesterday kind of similar
to that, where the difference between men

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and women at at catching the bouquet. Yeah, the women dive for the

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guys scattered when when they shoot the
garter at you, Yeah, nobody wants

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to catch it. But I do
have some NBA Finals stuff for you guys,

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So this is a pretty interesting stat. Drew Holliday, who might just

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be the Finals MVP as it stands
right, it's either her, him or

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Jalen Brown. Drew Holliday has thirty
eight points, nineteen rebounds, and eight

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assists with zero turnovers through games one
and two of the NBA Finals. Wow.

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The last player with thirty eight points
no turnovers uh in games one and

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two of the finals Michael Jordan in
nineteen ninety eight. Wow. Pretty cool.

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And then I really thought the Mavericks
are gonna win yesterday I did.

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First game. Yeah, I just
thought they're gonna split the you know,

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they canna split the first two games, and they, I mean they were

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in. They hung with them for
a while, and then of a sudden,

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you look up and they were down
twelve. And I was telling I

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was telling everybody, all my friends
that were asking me because my friend's not

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the Celtics fan, so they're asking
me, you know, what do I

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think about the series? I was
saying, Celtics and five, we win

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the first two, lose three,
yeah, and then two and two?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
agree, totally agree. Yeah. Buster

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only twitter account got hacked today?
What did he report what did the guy

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report? So Buster only Twitter account, which was hacked, reported today the

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season is canceled due to COVID.
Uh. He also reported that sho Heotani

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has been banned for life from the
MLB in connection to card with gambling.

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His trial is on August twenty eighth. It is speculated that he could get

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life. We got a lot of
attention. I mean he got he got

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almost a million views whenever this got
screenshoted, and that that was probably it

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was like the guy about about half
hour forty five minutes that reported, uh

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news coming out soon that that Hurley's
going to take the job of the Lakers.

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Soon after that came out in the
tweet, he was not good with

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me and the dude was roasted,
of course, of course, and that's

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what that's what that's what it's become. Yeah, who's first. That stuff

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now is considered media, right,
it's considered I wanted to, I want

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to. You have a lot left? No, I just have one?

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Oh yeah, pretty much. Buster
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had some interesting stories. But Connor
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he felt really he kind of felt
some butterfly, some nerves and ahead of

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the game one clash in which the
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thought was pretty interesting that the biggest
star in the sport will come out after

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they got shut out. Yeah he's
good. So so did you see the

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exchange between Stephen A. Smith and
the guy the former GM with the gold

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Golden State. So so they're talking
about who the best players in the Boston

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Celtics states and a couple of people
had your guy who's got and the other

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guy in jail? He says that's
device, you know device? Uh So

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that creates problems within the locker room
because people talk about this when it's more

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about the team. Do you do
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but other places. I think it
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there are some guys with a personality
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not the best guy, it disrupts
things. Absolutely. Quote the quote from

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Bob Myers on the show is we
tear teams apart more than we ever have,

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maybe on purpose. Maybe that guy
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and then he was done, and
Stephen A. Smith says, not me,

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not me, that's social media,
not me, which I feel like

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that's wrong. He's wrong. He
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one guy says, there's one says, and then there's strife inside the house.

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Yeah, when when there shouldn't be
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oh yeah, you see it.
Yeah, yeah, you want to be

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People talk about the alpha dog,
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a lot of teams, especially the
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a foundation, right exactly. All
right, let's take a break word to

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come back to Andy Lopez will be
joining us. We'll talk about the getting

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ready for the College World Series.
Get some of his thoughts on Arizona's baseball

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what he thinks and just what's going on

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with him and again, you know, would he have taken the Lakers job?

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ball on Tucson Sports dig Chet Fox
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and fifteen. I'm Steve. He's
Jay. Now on the phone, we

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have former Arizona baseball coach National champion
Andy Lopez. How are you? Coachy?

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Bill Will thank you for having me. Great, great great to have

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you. I always love talking to
you one of the best storytellers we have

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on our show. Now you have
any pressure on me? Now, well

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we need some hits, so you
who to call it? And so this

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time of years, as the World
Series begins, do you become more sentimental

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or just to kind of happy just
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I think the further I get away
from it in terms of actually being in

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the profession, yeah, I do. I do get a little bit more

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sentimental. Just a lot of memories, a lot of just a lot of

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thoughts, you know, from the
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and then obviously the two national championships
are always great, great experiences. But

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yeah, a little bit more sentimental. So as you ause, these teams

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are getting ready and as you you
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the College World Series. You know, let's let's say you know you're in,

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so you've go on your Super Regional
or your Regional or whatever it was

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at the time. You know,
what's the first thing you wanted your team

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to know or do once you knew
we're going to the College World Series?

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How did you what was your approach
to that? You know? And now

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was the I was huge on this
I really was, and I really think

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that that's I really you know,
I'm really happy to say this. But

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you know, we never went on
in too. We always went there and

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played for a while. And you
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you're there for two weeks and won
the dang thing. But I think it

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had a lot to do with our
mindset and the mindset that I always established

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and tried to establish. As soon
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it was Clinton, it was over, and everybody got done with the celebration.

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All the rest. I would just
tell the guys, hey, you

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know what, this is now a
reward, Like this experience will now be

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a reward, So enjoy it.
Like you've got to have a good time.

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You've got to really go out and
enjoy it. Sure you're going to

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be anxious. Sure you're gonna be
nervous, and those those are things that

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you can't deny as a human being, as an athlete and as a competitor.

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But man, you you will regret
it. You will regret it to

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the day you leave this Or if
you go there and you just play tight

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and you play timid and you play
scared to make a mistake. This is

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a reward. Postseason for me was
always a reward for a job well done

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in a you know, fifteen week
stretch. I mean when you're just out

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there grinding on a Tuesday midweek game
or a Wednesday midweek game, or a

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double hitter on Saturday somewhere, or
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which is always a challenge for me. I just a postseason. It's a

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reward. And if you don't look
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absolutely out of your mind. Because
I'm looking at it that way. This

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is a this is the best time
of the year for me. Yeah,

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I always enjoyed it. I love
to post season. I really did.

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You might answer you may have just
aswer this question that I was going to

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ask you about psychology of the sport. I'm a firm believer in it.

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You must be because of this.
Go out and have fun, play,

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you know, played as best you
can. But there's got to be some

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outside of talent. You have to
have more than just talent, which is

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you know, head game psychology of
it. How big is that with you?

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Yeah? Well, I mean I
was. It was huge for me.

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I read a book way back called
Psycho cybernetics, and you know the

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whole theory that your muscles don't know
if it's practiced or a game, and

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you developed muscle memory and all these
other concepts. So I was a big

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one. I was a huge one
even when I played Steve is a funny

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story, but I was at UCLA
in seventy four, seventy five, seventy

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six, and one of those years
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five, I took us a coaching
psychology cleft. Lord, forgive me,

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I don't remember the professor's name,
but he he basically was teaching us visualization,

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right, And I was sitting there
and I was in. I was

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locked in, like, well,
what's he talking about visualization and visualizing your

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steps and your moves and this and
that. Well, there was an a

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young athlete like myself in that class, and he was on the track team,

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and lo and behold. About a
year or two later, I'm watching

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this guy in the Olympics and I'm
watching him go through the visualization. Dwhite

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stones the high jumper, right,
and he's and he's in the Olympics and

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I'm seeing him go through the visualization
and I'm like, Wow, yeah,

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that's that it works. It works. So I incorporated into my coaching,

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I incorporated in a lot of things
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private life quite Stanley, I don't
think it's hocus focused. I think that,

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you know, the mind is a
is an amazing thing. And I

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guess someone once I read someone where
someone says, you know you only lose,

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you only use if you're a genius, use ten percent. I mean

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I'm using about one percent, you
know, my mind. So I got

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to work on it harder. But
yeah, I really believe from day one,

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I mean from the very first time
we're on the field, we're talking

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about I mean ore too. Like
we would always talk about Omaha every day.

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We would talk about Omaha every day. If we ran a practice and

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it was a really good practice,
I would say that practice will get you

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to o Mall. On the other
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a practice that was sloppy and careless, I said, fellas, forget about

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it, don't even think about it, Like, don't fool yourself. You'll

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never get to the World Series based
off of today's effort, you know.

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And we talked about that a lot, you know, I and I when

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I was at Pepperdine in nineteen ninety
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national champions of that year, National
champions that year, and I got the

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tape that the ncule that used to
send out, and I played that the

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College World Series tape of nineteen ninety
one every single day in the clubhouse.

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And the players were they thought I
was nothin. That was out of my

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mind. But I played it every
single day because you know, cleverer and

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I didn't go a lot of College
World Series and for me to talk about

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playing for a national champions for most
of people, but it was that's to

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be out of my mind. But
I played that tape every single day when

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00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.359
they were getting dressed. And then
after it was in, I said,

409
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:00.599
you can put whatever you want to
tell them what we played every single day,

410
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.240
and lo and behold, ninety two
we go back there and win the

411
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.839
dog on thing. You know,
I peper. So, yeah, I

412
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:08.359
was a big believer. You got
to get your mind right, was there?

413
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:12.079
You know? In terms of that
approach? Then was there something different

414
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:18.160
or something noticeable about the two teams
that won the championship versus the teams that

415
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.400
didn't could you know, if you
if you think back to that time,

416
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:27.119
Yeah, from a tangible standpoint day, From a tangible standpoint, pitching and

417
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:30.640
pitching is the key. I don't
care. I don't care what anybody says.

418
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.160
Pitching is the key. If you
pitch well, you got a chance

419
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:41.200
to win. Whether it's a Saturday
over the line game or a midweek game,

420
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.440
or a slow pitch game, or
a little league game, or you're

421
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.759
in the National championship game. If
you pitch well, you're going to give

422
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.119
yourself a chance to win. So
pitching was the was the biggest tangible.

423
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:57.680
That was the biggest tangible. Again, the intangible for me was what have

424
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:02.880
we been discussing it for LESCo minutes? I just I went to Omahall quite

425
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.880
a few times, or you know, and and I always, well,

426
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.440
there's I won't mention the name of
the school because I wouldn't be fairedom But

427
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.680
there was a school that I played
when I was at Florida. We played

428
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:17.160
them on a regular basis, and
in February, they and the head coach

429
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.200
they were loose and man, they
were wild. They hit and ran,

430
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.039
they stole bases, they laughed,
they joked, man, they were out

431
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:26.559
of them. I mean it was
like envious, the man you looked at

432
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.440
them in February. In February went
wow, man, these guys are so

433
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.880
far ahead of us, you know, because February is the start of the

434
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:34.680
season. I'm sitting around looking at
my guys, trying to figure lose my

435
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.200
pitch. All rest these guys were
just rolling. And we played them in

436
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:44.319
the Cultural Series three times in my
time at Florida three times. Twice we

437
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.359
eliminated them in the elimination games.
And oh my gosh, what a difference

438
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:55.559
February to June. They were tight
as a drum. There was not a

439
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.519
smile to be found in that dugout
talking to the head coach before the game

440
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.440
in February, laughing, joking,
laughing about this and that. In June,

441
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.480
man, it was it was brain
surgery. It was brain surgery,

442
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.279
it was heart surgery. It was, man, it was it was dead

443
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.039
serious. And I understand that because
you know, you want to go to

444
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:15.079
a win, But like I said, I always felt like, man,

445
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.920
if you go there that way,
you're probably going to play tight. And

446
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.640
we all know as athletes, man, that's not a good result. When

447
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.359
you're tight. Let me ask you
a couple of quick questions within one question.

448
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:30.880
It's been twelve years since you retired. No, No, twelve years

449
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.599
since you won the title and nine
years since you retired. Does it seem

450
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:40.000
so long ago? Or like yesterday? When the World Series shows up,

451
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:45.000
it seems like yesterday, Like like
I'll watch a game on Friday if my

452
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.480
schedule allows it, but I'll watch
some games here this weekend. And when

453
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.759
I'm sitting watching and they so shocked
to it and talk about it. And

454
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:53.920
I was fortunate I coached in Rosen
Oh. I was pretty lucky in fact

455
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.519
that you know what. I Someone
sent me an email about a week or

456
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:02.599
two ago out and Ray Tenner and
the only two guys that won national championships

457
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:10.440
in Rosenblatt and uh, well what's
now Charles Small? I guess yeah,

458
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.519
they changed the name out of the
new part anyway, And so I was

459
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.279
really lucky to do that. And
and when I watched it, yeah,

460
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.640
it feels like it was yesterday.
It really does now when I have ex

461
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.960
players call me up and tell me
about this or that. Hey, I

462
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.480
went and spoke to Chips team this
year in right before Christmas break to the

463
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.359
Arizona Walcats, right, and one
of the players, one of the freshman

464
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:33.599
players, because I says, hey, coach, how are you doing?

465
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.319
And un introduced himself, Hey,
you coach my dad. I said,

466
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.160
I coach your dad. He said
yeah, and he gives me a kid's

467
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.160
name beginning your dad's name, and
I go, oh my god, I

468
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.160
coach your dad at Pepperdine. And
when I walked out of the club off

469
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.920
after I got that, speaking of
what wait a minute, that's his son,

470
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.359
Like, man, I'm an old
man. Ye, what the heck

471
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.400
is that? Yeah. Well,
at the at the top of the show,

472
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.680
Steve and I were talking about the
fact that we saw a highlight this

473
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:03.240
weekend of Rob Refsnighter making a diving
catch in the game and the announce you're

474
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.680
saying it thirty three year old Rob
Refsnight putting his body out there. I'm

475
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.319
like, thirty three years old.
Oh my god. That's when, Yeah,

476
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.079
that's when it hits me a little
bit. But no, when I

477
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:15.720
when I when the World Series comes
on, I sit in front of the

478
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.799
TV like everybody else and watched and
I do I feel like, Wow.

479
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.039
Just a couple of weeks ago,
we were we were back there, Hey

480
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.000
were we back from two years ago? But now I know it's a it's

481
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.720
a great experience, it really is. I'm a little sad by, you

482
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.880
know what we're what we're gonna see. Uh, you know, you're gonna

483
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.279
have two conferences obviously, two conference
are gonna are gonna play with a natural

484
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.680
time, right and sec and that
that that's a little that's a little disheartening.

485
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.279
But but I think that's just the
reality of where we are now in

486
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.119
the twenty first century and in life
and college athletics with n I L and

487
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.119
Portal and all the rest. Is
that you know, the rich are going

488
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:57.920
to get richer. And it would
it would shock me if we didn't see

489
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.960
what we're about to see this next
two weeks in terms of uh, you

490
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.599
know, two conferences pretty much dominating
those eight spots. You know, we'll

491
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.440
see how it goes. So what's
Chip hal going through right now? He's

492
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.680
got uh you know, he's been
to the you know in the postseason three

493
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.920
times now but not done well.
And he's got you know, he even

494
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.079
said himself, I got to figure
something out. What would you say to

495
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.799
him about about all that? You
know what Chip and we texted each other,

496
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.880
in fact, after they were the
weekend co scill what have you.

497
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.039
You know, I always I like
Chip. I've known him for a long

498
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.680
time, long long since the eighties, and and he's done a great job,

499
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:38.279
and he'll do a great job here, and he'll he'll get over this

500
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.759
hump. I mean, you know, he's he's a good baseball man,

501
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.640
he's a great human being. So
he's gonna get good players in here,

502
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.559
and and they're gonna get over that
hump. Honestly, I'll be very,

503
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.440
very blunt about this. I think
Chip is gonna is gonna chat. Chip

504
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:57.799
is gonna his biggest challenge is gonna
be with a lot of programs, especially

505
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.200
on the West Coast, are going
to face and that's again, it's the

506
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:07.440
nil It the nil issue. It's
hard to compete with people that can offer

507
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.119
a kid one hundred thousand dollars and
a new car to drive around for the

508
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:15.039
year. And I don't care what
kind of smile you have. I mean,

509
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.160
that's just the reality. Okay,
here's the story. Okay, on

510
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.200
Friday, the first day, the
first game on Friday, they played Grant

511
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:28.039
Canny College grect. That morning,
I had breakfast with David Esker. He's

512
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.400
a longtime friend and couch at Stanford
University of Baseball because his son Gabe was

513
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:36.559
on the Wildcats. So David comes
into town with Lynn, his wife and

514
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:40.200
his daughter, and we have breakfast
Friday morning. And I hadn't seen Day

515
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.759
for a while, so we have
breakfast and we get to talking. Now.

516
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:49.440
Listen, I recruited against Stanford for
twenty five thirty years. Okay,

517
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:55.079
every time you've heard Stanford was on
a player, you pretty much wasted your

518
00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:00.440
time and backed out and went after
somebody else for one reason. They told

519
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:06.079
you, or they told the kid, come here play for us. It's

520
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:07.359
a good program. It's a very
good program. It's a great program at

521
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:13.440
times. But more than that,
you get a Stanford degree, right,

522
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.720
a Stanford degree, right right?
Okay. Well, the other night,

523
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.279
my ex assistant and next player,
Mark Waisa Kalki, they opened up against

524
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.039
Texas A and M of the super
Eagel and bring the Montgommery Texas and the

525
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:29.279
right fielder breaks the ankle in the
first inning there play at the plate.

526
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.480
And I talked to Walla this morning
when he was getting on the flight coming

527
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:35.519
back and going back to the Gene, Oregon. We spoke this morning and

528
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.599
I said, hey, what have
the Montgomery said, they broke his ankle.

529
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:39.000
I thought it's too bad. Well, the breakfast I had with David

530
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:44.559
Ester, I said, David,
a Stanford degree isn't enough anymore. Yeah,

531
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:49.559
said it's not anymore. Wow,
it's not enough anymore. Well,

532
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.279
the thing is not enough anymore.
Back back in the day, you competed

533
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.559
with the major leagues coming after you. Guys, obviously give him a ton

534
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:58.680
of money. Now it's the nil
coming after you with a ton of money.

535
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:01.960
Oh, the Major leagues is competing
with the nln OWT too. Yeah.

536
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:06.599
Yeah, there's players. Now,
there's players that are drafted in a

537
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.039
tenth round that are good getting it
offered one hundred and twenty five thousand,

538
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.159
and somebody really needs an outfielder really
bad and says, we'll give you one

539
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:17.960
fifty. Crazy. So he goes
in place college baseball, Where are you

540
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.800
at? And so huh, Well, I said, where are you at?

541
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.199
Now? Are you sitting on the
couch? Yeah, you must be

542
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.480
enjoying left to deal with this car? Yeah, no, I'm Lenna.

543
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.480
Say hey, let me tell you
something. Okay. One of my ex

544
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:36.159
players has got released from his job
at Pepperdine three four weeks ago, and

545
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.000
and to be very can with do
you someone from the alumni reached out to

546
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.280
me as a coach, Mopez.
I watched you on TV a few times.

547
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.880
I talked to people. They say, you're in great shape and everything's

548
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:47.000
fine. You feel great. I
said, well, I don't know if

549
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.519
I'm in great shivvy. I you
know, I try to walk every day

550
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.519
and swim during the summer and all
the rest. He says, how about

551
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:54.840
you come back and get us back. I get us back on track,

552
00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:00.440
which get us back on track?
Okay? And I said, I wouldn't

553
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.079
do that if you said you were
going to give me five million dollars a

554
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.239
year, I said, I said, there's no way I want to be

555
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:12.639
a part of it. I just
I'm I'm astounded by what's going on.

556
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.960
Sometimes I don't even think it's real. Sometimes I get just a bad dream

557
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.119
that I'm going to wake up and
shake my head and go, WHOA,

558
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.639
that was a weird dream, right, I mean, they got guys,

559
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.599
right, they got guys. They're
just buying players, right. Well,

560
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:28.719
yeah, we were going to ask
you. We're going to ask you coaching

561
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:30.599
because Harley turned out. When we
were joking, would you have taken the

562
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:36.679
Lakers job or something similar or something
similar, like on a major league Yeah?

563
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.079
Did you? Did you ever turn
down a big job like that,

564
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:44.079
you know, something bigger, maybe
something bigger than where you were. Well,

565
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:45.800
yeah, in nineteen ninety six,
I turned down the Texas job.

566
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.199
I was at Florida. I was
at Florida University of Texas. Call.

567
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.079
They were going to increase my money
and all the rest of the things to

568
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:57.320
miss and that, and and and
my wife and I we looked at each

569
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:01.800
other with no, you know,
no, that's okay. I'm gonna hey,

570
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.000
here's the deal. I'm thirty two
years old. I'm like cal State

571
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.599
Deminga's Hills, right, I'm at
hell State Deminga's Hills, a Division two

572
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:14.280
program, no money for assistant coaches. I dragged the field every day,

573
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:19.960
even before games, in my own
personal car, my own car. I

574
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.400
hooked the drag on the back of
my bumper and I dragged the field with

575
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.679
my with my own car. That
was my life. I'm thirty two years

576
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.320
of age. There was a gentleman
named John Scollis who's passed away, who

577
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.960
was one of the greatest coaches ever
Division two coach were a Division two teams

578
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:37.159
and a great Christian man and a
dear, dear friend and an unbelieved other

579
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.800
than my father, one of the
greatest influences on my life. He comes

580
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.519
to me and he says, hey, I hear you're in the running for

581
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:46.679
the Pepperdine and the Long Beach stage
job. And I said, well,

582
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:50.000
yeah, they've they've reached out to
me, coach, and he says,

583
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:52.400
he grabs me his shoulders. He
looks me right in the eye and he

584
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:57.400
says, hey, Annie, that's
a rat race. And I went,

585
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.519
okay, Coach. He says,
do me a favor if you take one

586
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:07.159
of those jobs, be successful,
but don't become a rat. Let me

587
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.280
let me ask you one quick question. We're kind of over, but uh,

588
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.840
in today's world and you you did
this game for a long time.

589
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.960
What makes a good coach? Now? Oh? Wow, you only have

590
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:27.599
a couple of minutes. Wow,
I mean I obviously obviously, he obviously

591
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:29.840
you need to be a good teacher. Obviously you need to be a good

592
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:34.280
teacher. That's why she's gonna be
fine. He's a great teacher. But

593
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.920
boy, you know, Steve,
you know you're wearing a lot of hats.

594
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.679
Man, you're wearing a lot of
hats. Now, I mean you

595
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.360
got to go out. You got
to get an i OL money some way,

596
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.960
somehow. If you want to compete, you gotta get in IL money.

597
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.679
Then you got to figure out who
you're gonna You got to keep him

598
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:54.159
so happy that they don't leave in
the transfer. Wow. Uh, you

599
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:58.920
know what, I can't answer that. Take take your time with well.

600
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.599
I just I obviously that. Okay, the tangibles are you've got to be

601
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:07.360
a great teacher, and you've got
to have a you've got to have a

602
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.039
desire to lead, right, You've
got to have those other lead young people.

603
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:14.800
I think every young person wants to
be led. Okay, perfect,

604
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.480
Those are the tangiles. But now
you've got these other tangibles that have showed

605
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:22.400
up. I've got to get nil
money. Why because my best picture might

606
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:28.960
leave me this year because someone in
the SCC or ACC is going to offer

607
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.039
money and I don't have any money
to give them. Yeah. So now

608
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:34.159
now I gotta go out now,
No, Now I got to go out

609
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.280
and be a fundraiser, I mean
a really good fundraiser. Right, Okay,

610
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:43.480
Now, I've got to make sure
that I've got a pulse on every

611
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:50.239
single athlete in my program in some
capacity, because that second line guy that

612
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:54.280
I know in two okay, in
two thousand and eleven, Brandon Dixon.

613
00:38:54.400 --> 00:39:00.559
In twenty eleven, Brandon, Brandon
Dixon doesn't play a day in the in

614
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:05.239
the lineup at the Universey Arizona.
In twenty twelve. We pinch hit for

615
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.039
Brandon. We pinch hit Brandon Dixon. He gets to double in the national

616
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:13.039
championship game and we win the national
title. Right. Yeah, he's not

617
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:17.320
an everyday starter for two years.
Brandon Dixon doesn't start at Arizona in two

618
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:22.400
thousand, In two thousand and ten
and two thousand, I'm sorry, twenty

619
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:27.880
eleven, twenty twelve, Brandon Dixon
doesn't start. Twenty thirteen. He's the

620
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:31.440
Pac twelve Player of the Year.
He's a third round draft pick. He

621
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:36.320
plays in the big leagues for seven
years, but he doesn't play us first

622
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.880
two years here. Yeah, he's
not here. Day's world. Yeah,

623
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:43.320
he's not half world. Yeah.
What does Brandon Dixon doing. Yeah,

624
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:49.320
he's gone. He's gone. Unless
he's got phenomenal parents who've really established commitment

625
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.320
and loyalty and all the things that
everybody says are stupid and corny, but

626
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.639
truly are the biggest thing on the
greatest thing on earth, and we're not

627
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.880
seen a lot of it anymore.
Right, right, We'll have to get

628
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:01.960
this again when the next time you
come on, Andy, as always,

629
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.920
thank you, you're the best man. Hey, thanks for having me Philowsky

630
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.719
be great job, great, Thank
you, Henny Lopez. Yep, I

631
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:12.920
want to go back to that once
we come back. As we're way over,

632
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.159
I want to talk to you about
something like that, he said.

633
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:16.599
Okay, sounds go. Let's go
and take a break. We're gonna be

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Extreamly live on the iHeartRadio app.
This is Eye on the Ball with

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Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox
Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back

678
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.320
joining the ball hero Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. I'm Steve, You're Jay Kevin

679
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.039
with us today. Got about nine
minutes, went over, but it was

680
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.599
well worth it. Enjoyed talking to
him. You mentioned something at the end

681
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:47.519
of and this was brought to be
about a way about ten days ago.

682
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.400
I was out somewhere and in your
coach and you dealt with this. What

683
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:58.639
are the things that makes good athletes
and good kids are parents? He talked

684
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.599
about that, you know, to
get the bag or there there, and

685
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:06.159
they want to be coached. Uh. And people are asking me, so

686
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.039
what makes that? What's the mix
the difference between a good dude or a

687
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.400
good athlete and their parents because they
know one not to be yelled at,

688
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:17.079
but they know the difference between whatever. And I'm sure you you, having

689
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:21.400
coached you pay had to deal with
this. No, I certainly did.

690
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:25.320
And you could tell which kids were
you know, brought up in a way

691
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.599
you know, they had respect,
they had Oh, we got to call

692
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.280
it coming. Let's take this call, hire on there and the ball.

693
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:39.320
What's hey? First thing? Man, that was a great interview. Thanks.

694
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.519
Yeah. We got a couple of
messages saying the same thing. Thank

695
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.719
you, Nico. He's probably one
of the best you have. No,

696
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:51.719
we love he's we love and and
he's great everything every single time. And

697
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:57.079
uh, Steve, I want to
thank you man. Hello, Hello,

698
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:05.400
about why I want to thank you
for nipping that Dodgers you go, thank

699
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:10.360
you for calling in. I can't
hear that stuff. Did credit man,

700
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:19.400
he's passionate. Man, it sounds
like he's pitching in his pants. I

701
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.960
don't think we have to block that
out, dude, But I've never even

702
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:27.000
heard that before. You go,
that's a good one. I'm just saying,

703
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.519
man, it's like I know more
about the Dodgers in the diving back.

704
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:34.760
I want you to go, thank
you. Oh that's because the Dodgers

705
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:39.639
are good. Good to hear from
you before. You have never heard that.

706
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:44.159
I've never heard that before. Okay, we didn't. I feel like

707
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.559
I've heard a lot of stuff.
Okay, So you're going with the kids

708
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:49.039
with the kids, Well, I
was gonna say, you know, you

709
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.760
could tell, but I fortunately had
you know, was in a program where

710
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:54.840
you know, all the kids are
you know, good, yeah, pretty

711
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:59.360
good kids because you know, I
mean you're at a school that is you

712
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.159
know, of money to go to
and not and and uh you know,

713
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.679
I mean kids from a lot you
know, because through scholarships and stuff,

714
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.280
you had kids at all levels,
you know, but you felt that if

715
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:12.559
their parents cared enough to put them
in this school, they really cared about

716
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.440
the kids, right right. So
let me go somewhere to we might get

717
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.039
another call here where we know this
because we see it, we hear it,

718
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.519
and we know the people with a
lot of a lot of high schools

719
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:25.840
in this town where the parents are
dictating a lot of these the athletic decisions

720
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:29.760
with coaches, because can we see
a lot of coaches leave, A bunch

721
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.960
of coaches leave, successful coaches and
we don't have to say schools of where

722
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:35.800
it's happened. We know who they
are. But we know who they are,

723
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:37.840
and it's happening more and more.
Yes, it is, which is

724
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.400
sad it is, but you know, and they and you know when you're

725
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.159
making it hard on coaches to coach, Yeah, because because of that,

726
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.760
you know, you know, you
as a parent, who are doing doing

727
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.119
things that you think are helping your
kid. Maybe they're helping your kid,

728
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.639
but they're kind of wrecking the rest
of the program. Yeah, and a

729
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:58.920
lot of long term they're not helping
the long term right because it might be

730
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.159
you know, how come in my
little Judy or playing Yeah, we're gonna

731
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.480
do it. I mean, Steve, I listened to this. I got

732
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:10.400
stuff like that in girls middle school
softball. Yeah, there was a there

733
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:15.559
was a parent, a specific parent
that got you know, when I gave

734
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:20.239
all the kids my email address,
I got phone calls and emails from her

735
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.599
about her daughter not playing it and
what was your girls? Don't call me

736
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.639
answer? I said, Look,
I said, I this is you know.

737
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:31.880
My answer was, this is middle
school softball. Everybody's gonna play.

738
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:35.800
Yeah, and if your kids not
getting enough playing time, I'm sorry,

739
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.719
that's just too bad. Let's take
this. Hi, You're on the arm

740
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:42.639
and I on the ball. Hey, guys, what's Vic? What's going

741
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:47.159
on? Vic? I just wanted
to kind of expand upon what you guys

742
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:52.400
are talking about. Coach Andy Uh. He mentioned John Scalinas, who was

743
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:58.440
the phenomenal coach a cal Pally Pomona
wherever, Jay, you ever heard the

744
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.239
story of seventeen inches? I don't
know if I want to ask that.

745
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.559
So it's Goalinas was giving a clinic
and he had a home plate in his

746
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.840
hand, and he tells all the
high school coaches there, how big is

747
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.360
this plate? They all say,
seventeen inches? Okay? He says,

748
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.840
how about college? How many college
coaches I got out here? How big

749
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.159
is this plate? Seventeen inches?
And then he tells the same to the

750
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.519
pro guys that are in there,
and he says, they don't expand it.

751
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.840
If your kid can't throw seventeen inches, they don't widen it to eighteen.

752
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.679
He says, they don't widen it
to twenty if your kid can't throw

753
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:40.159
a strike, he goes So you
need to just put those rules in your

754
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:45.159
team. When a kid gets caught
or coming late, you don't. You

755
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.719
A lot of guys widen the rules
for him, right, right, that's

756
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:53.639
a plate. They don't widen the
home plate because your kid can't throw stripes.

757
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:59.719
Yeah, he goes on and tells
a longer story, but basically that's

758
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:04.920
a of it is. You got
a whole and kids aren't held accountable today.

759
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.599
A lot of them aren't. And
that's that, and that's the big

760
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:09.519
issue, you know, and you
see that, you know different players getting

761
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:15.159
handled different ways, and it's like, you know, you have to you

762
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.480
always have to have the overall good
of the team in mind when you're doing

763
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.360
things to make a decison. Hey, Vic, I'm sure you like to

764
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.760
interview, but let me ask you. Did you coach at one point?

765
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:29.800
I did. I did youth ball
and Almani and we were fantastic. We

766
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.039
OLMNI was a hotbed of baseball in
the San Gabriel Valley and coach some of

767
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.840
the best. A couple of my
kids made it to the majors. Don

768
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:43.719
Kennedy and Freddie Diaz had a whole
bunch of college guys, and uh,

769
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:46.599
we're coming out of that area.
It's pretty you know, it's the Latino

770
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:53.079
area gang infested, and uh,
we we held our kids accountable. Well

771
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:55.880
let me say I still keep in
touch with a lot of them. Well

772
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.800
let me say this real quickly,
just a minute in your response. Uh,

773
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.400
back then, were the kids coachable
or did they want to be coached?

774
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.519
Because that's the question now do the
kids today want to be coached?

775
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:12.000
No? It was definitely a different
type of kid back then. Yeah,

776
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.719
a different type of kid, and
you you could be a little harder on

777
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.000
him. They wouldn't go home and
cry to mama and all all that kind

778
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.480
of stuff. So definitely a little
bit different kind of kid. You you

779
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:27.159
say a cuss word today and you're
gonna lose your job, right Yeah,

780
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.039
no, yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right, a little bit.

781
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.719
But that Andy Lopez guy, Yeah, the more you have on him,

782
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.199
I can't get enough on Yeah,
one of the good ones, one of

783
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.840
the good ones. All right,
Vic, Thanks abouch, I appreciate it.

784
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.639
You guys, take care. He's
right, He's right, no,

785
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.840
you know, and and and uh, you know, different teams have different

786
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:49.519
issues, and you know, The
funny thing is, to me, it

787
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:53.079
seems to me that the whole word
that we hear about entitled, and then

788
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:58.480
the teams that seem to be less
entitled are the teams that are just kind

789
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.599
of in areas where you know,
they're not a bunch of you know,

790
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:07.039
they haven't been been spending thousands of
dollars on travel ball and you know,

791
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:08.920
getting all the things that come with
that, where they seem to have to

792
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:10.800
work for it a little harder,
I guess is what it is. What

793
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.760
I'm saying, Well, well,
the play doesn't move to eighteen inches right

794
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:16.119
at seventeen inches, no matter what. That was a good story. Yeah,

795
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:19.719
that's good story. Yeah, all
right, Well this show went fast.

796
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.280
It was good, So good stories
shows fast. All right, Hey,

797
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.840
Brent Brennan, Tomorrow we're gonna have
the head coach Airson Football coming on

798
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.440
talk about what his summer's been like
and what's going on. Yeah, they've

799
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.440
had a lot of guys coming in
and so and then they're in the Big

800
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.800
twelve now right, No, we're
talking about the Pac twelve. They're in

801
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:37.840
a Big twelve. Yeah, I'm
sure there were a lot of tributes to

802
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.840
say goodbye over the week. Is
it's done. Yeah, it's also it's

803
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:44.679
over. It's all done and tracking, everything's all done. And so we're

804
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.599
we're on to uh onto the Big
twelve. So Brent Brannon will be on

805
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.119
later on in the week. We're
gonna have John Wilner, he'll join us

806
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:53.800
talk about sort of the business of
what's going on around around the country.

807
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.239
A lot of stuff going on there. So so we'll see our our Pac

808
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:01.760
twelve attire on sale on eBay.
Now. I wear packed Off shirt all

809
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:07.119
day yesterday t shirt. I cleaned
the yard in it, because what's gonna

810
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:12.280
that's what it's gonna be for.
I went on and did some yard work

811
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.119
in my Packed Off. Don't come
back in that jersey next week. You

812
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:19.280
can't wear that jersey or my Cardinals
one that I don't care. That's fine,

813
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.039
that's that's just an ugly jersey.
Sorry about that. Last week is

814
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.719
next week. The guy at the
gas station said it was cool. All

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right, Hey, thanks for being
here everybody. We'll see you tomorrow.

