WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:06.679 Golf is unlike other sports. It's a lifestyle. It opens so many doors 2 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:11.640 for you travel, personal introspection. So I wanted the book to be not 3 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:16.000 telling the reader what courses they should play. There's a little bit of that 4 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:19.600 in there, and there's a little bit of what countries you might find enjoyable, 5 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:23.640 but it's all personal experiences. I don't care how good of a writer 6 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:28.480 you are. You can't describe a golf hole so that the reader is going 7 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:32.520 to give an actual picture in their mind. So when I write about the 8 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.719 golf hole, like the first hole at the old course at Saint Andrew's, 9 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:39.840 it's not about the hole itself. It's about the experience of playing that hole, 10 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:43.799 because that hole was unlike any others. Hi, this is Edward app 11 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:47.799 from can Law, Alberta, and I played golf at Stuart Creek Golf and 12 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:54.399 Country Club. This is golf Smarter number nine forty eight, one hundred ideas 13 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:59.240 for creating your own golf bucket list with the author of the book, Jeff 14 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:06.239 Thorrison, is golf Smarter sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf minds 15 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:11.239 to help you lower your score and raise your golf IQ. Here's your host 16 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:15.560 Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Jeff. Thanks Fred, 17 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:21.120 pleasure to be here. It's great to have you on. This is a 18 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:25.920 book that I first of all, you're an excellent writer, and I was 19 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:30.359 really entertained all the way through everything that I've read up to this point, 20 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.439 and I'm still reading it. All right, Well, thank you, appreciate 21 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:38.239 it. All right. So, and you've been a writer for a long 22 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:44.120 time writing golf. So yeah, started as a reporter on coming out of 23 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:49.000 college, doing news and politics and that sort of thing. Started my own 24 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.120 business in the early nineties, and then in nineteen ninety four we started a 25 00:01:55.120 --> 00:02:00.920 just a whim actually started a golf magazine, which grew into a golf magazine 26 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:05.239 that had issues in seven different cities here on the East Coast. Well, 27 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.840 okay, so yeah, So since about ninety four, I've done my share 28 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:16.000 of golf writing. So the idea of a golf bucket list is on everybody's 29 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:22.120 mind and everybody must have one, although I never really thought of it as 30 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.520 a golf bucket list for me until I started reading this and then started going, 31 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:29.680 well, wait a minute, this is a great idea. I should 32 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:38.159 have a golf bucket list, right, everyone should. Yeah, you know, 33 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.120 there's a ton written on golf bucket lists, and they're roll about what 34 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:44.960 courses you should play in, what countries you should travel to. And I 35 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:51.000 tried to take a little bit of a different approach on this. It's more, 36 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.280 you know, golf is Golf is unlike other sports. You know this 37 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:02.319 it's a lifestyle. It opens so many doors for you travel, you know, 38 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:07.639 personal introspection, things like that. So I wanted the book to be 39 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:13.759 not telling the reader what courses they should play. There's a little bit of 40 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:16.199 that in there, and there's a little bit of what countries you might find 41 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:23.120 enjoyable, but it's all it's all personal experiences. And I say early in 42 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:28.800 the book that I've been very fortunate to be able to do not all these 43 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:34.360 things, but most of them. And I don't care how good of a 44 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:42.719 writer you are, you can't describe a golf hole so that the reader is 45 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:47.120 going to get an actual picture in their mind. So when I write about 46 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:51.479 a golf hole, like the first hole a deal course at Saint Andrew's, 47 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:55.280 it's not about the hole itself. It's about the experience of playing that hole. 48 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:59.879 Because that hole was unlike any others. I mean, it's relatively not 49 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:04.759 the script, flat, uninteresting hole, but it's all the circumstances around it. 50 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:09.439 It's the people, they are watching you, it's the history, is 51 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:12.680 the fact that every great player who's ever played the game has stood on that 52 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:16.079 same piece of ground, exactly that same piece of ground and hit that shot 53 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:20.600 that you're about to hit. Wow. So that was the That was the 54 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:28.199 intent is just to suggest some things that you might find interesting. Well, 55 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:32.000 that's what I loved, especially about that particular you know, in each each 56 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:38.759 of your elements let's call them because they're not chapters necessarily, but they're just 57 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:44.040 tidbits. They're they're short, they're really quick. So it's a great it's 58 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.360 a great gift book because it's quick reading, you know, keep it next 59 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:53.560 to the toilet type of thing reading. Right, And when you talked about 60 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:58.600 number one at Saint Andrew's, I was able to, like you were able 61 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:04.480 to express your feelings and the emotion of standing there and being watched, and 62 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:10.800 I really thoroughly enjoyed that. Well, thanks, and yeah, that's exactly 63 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:17.079 the intent is. Because you know, there's been thousands of articles written about 64 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:24.199 Saint Andrews in the first hole at Saint Andrews. But it's really until you're 65 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:28.160 actually there and standing on the t box and all the people are milling about 66 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:32.319 watching you, and and all the history kind of collapses in on you because 67 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:38.600 you're right there in front of the old course clubhouse and there's members, you 68 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.160 know, it's very exclusive in there, and they're looking out the window watching 69 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:46.279 to see what's going on on their first tee. So so yeah, I'm 70 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.240 trying to give you that experience, still hopes that you'll say, oh, 71 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:54.279 yeah, I got to do this well. I want to. I want 72 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:59.240 to pick a bunch of those apart with you, And mainly because talk about 73 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.879 bucket list. I've partnered with a golf travel company here on the podcast, 74 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:09.759 and we're going to be taking golf adventures twice a year for the next couple 75 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:14.600 of years hopefully everybody, you know, health permitting, but I'm going to 76 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:19.600 be doing hopefully next in twenty twenty five. In the fall of twenty twenty 77 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:24.360 five or late summer, we're going to try to go to Saint Andrew's. 78 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:29.279 We're going to try to play there. And there's other places in your book 79 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.519 that I want to talk about because I want your advice about going to these 80 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:36.399 places, and we'll get to that in a minute. But when you talk 81 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:43.920 about early on and you had number seventeen whole Tournament Players Club at Sawgrass. 82 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:49.399 But what I loved is what you wrote about how you stated other sports teach 83 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:56.959 equality and teamwork and that great things can be accomplished if everyone does their best, 84 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:01.399 works together and lifts each other up for the common good. Golf will 85 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:10.360 have none of that. Golf teaches that the world is cruel, a cruel, 86 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:15.439 harsh place that the Cosmos couldn't care the hell less that you broke at 87 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.839 you last week. With every new round, you must prove yourself again, 88 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:26.399 well, stated my friend. Well, and that's nowhere more appropriate than at 89 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:31.720 the seventeenth hole that Tournament Players Club at Sawgrass, Because again, it's a 90 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:36.160 shot that you've seen everybody hit. But until you stand there and you look 91 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.040 at that green, and the green is actually I believe it's the biggest green 92 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:45.199 on the course. But until you stand there and you look over all that 93 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.319 water and you think about all the bad things that can happen, it's you 94 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:56.120 know, TV just doesn't do a justice again experience, right, and I 95 00:07:56.319 --> 00:08:01.600 had that kind of experience. I did a golf smart adventure with some listeners 96 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:07.360 back in two thousand and nine. We went to Scottsdale and we played TPC 97 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:16.759 Scottsdale the week after the waste management opened and the grand stands were still up. 98 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.279 They were empty, but they were still there. And when we walked 99 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.759 on to number sixteen, like my knees were shaking. I'm just hitting to 100 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.600 the green, but with all those stands around there, I could just feel 101 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:33.320 it. And you talk about that's one of the places you need to put 102 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:37.200 on your bucket list is to go to that event. Well, yeah, 103 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:43.440 that one, I believe that's in the same chapter. And yeah, answer, 104 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.879 then the chapter of tournaments you need to do it? Just chapter three, 105 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:50.960 right, Yeah, I mean, and that's one I haven't done. 106 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.919 All you know, cards on the table, that's one I haven't done. 107 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:58.320 But you know, you watched on TV and you think, just how cool 108 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:05.799 is this because it goes against everything the professional tournament golf kind of stands for. 109 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.960 You know, the crowd is rowdy and they're not really paying attention to 110 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:18.519 being quiet when there when the player is hitting and refreshing change. I think 111 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:20.679 there should be more of that. I think there's room for more of that. 112 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:26.279 And professional golf, well, you know, there's another golf entity trying 113 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.559 to do that, and I don't know if it's connecting very well with the 114 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:35.120 fans. I tend to agree, let's take a time out. We'll come 115 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.000 back and we're going to find out how the heck you got to do all 116 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.039 these things. We'll be back with Jeff Thorrison on his book The Golf Bucket 117 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:54.480 List right after this. Well, you just mentioned that you haven't done TPC 118 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.399 Scottsdale at the Waste Management open and you know, and there's parts of the 119 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:05.399 book where you I get frustrated with people when you're you make it seem like 120 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:11.120 the West Coast is a different continent. This East Coast bias is like, 121 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:13.519 all right, we have a nine o'clock meeting. Excuse me, that's five 122 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.720 in the morning for me. I can't do that, right, What do 123 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:22.559 you mean? Oh? Yeah, okay? And like when you came out 124 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.120 to Bandon Dunes is a good examples, Like why would I go to the 125 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.519 west when I can go to the east and just play those original courses? 126 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:35.000 Talk about Bandon Dunes. I mean, yeah, that's kind of the the 127 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.240 issue we have here on the west, on the East coast New York. 128 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:45.840 I'm New York and Washington centric, so it's easy to hop on a plane 129 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:52.039 out of Dulles or JFK and land almost anywhere in Europe the next morning, 130 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.320 and getting to Bandon Dunes is flight here and a connection there. And then 131 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.519 you gotta somehow get from Portland to been to Oregon, which is not the 132 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:09.679 easiest thing, whether you drive or well or fly right, But that said, 133 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:18.799 it's worth it. Uh spectacular West Coast Links golf is very different from 134 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:26.240 Links golf in the UK, but it's not any worse. It's modern links 135 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.799 golf, but the courses are spectacular, the shots are crazy. I forget 136 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.799 which hole it was, but there's a couple of t shots that are just 137 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:43.559 spectacular on that property. Uh so yeah, so definitely worth it. And 138 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:48.559 you also had an affinity towards Pebble Beach and the you know, the Monterey 139 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:54.919 Peninsula. Yeah like that. I've only been there one time. I only 140 00:11:54.000 --> 00:12:00.399 played Pebble Beach one time. Me too, but you know, again, 141 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:03.639 you know, not try to tell people what their bucket list should be. 142 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:11.879 But for me, that was another experience that kind of goes beyond what you 143 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:16.080 see on TV or what you read in the magazines things like that. You 144 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:20.440 know, playing those ocean side holes are just you know, you don't get 145 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:26.639 that very very many other places. Right. So, I'm just north of 146 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:33.159 San Francisco and it's a three plus hour drive for me to get down to 147 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:37.360 Pebble. And you know, you don't want to necessarily stay at the lodge 148 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:43.399 there because it becomes incredibly expensive if you do that. But if you know, 149 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.799 the only way you can get a tea time is if you book your 150 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.519 room in the lodge. Otherwise, if you call within twenty four hours ahead 151 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.080 of the time you want to play. So that means like, oh, 152 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.600 I just booked six am tomorrow morning at Pebble, I have to leave house 153 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.519 at two. Oh yeah, I don't think I'm gonna be doing that. 154 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.399 And even for me to get to Bandon Dunes is an all day event if 155 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:13.039 I fly through Portland after rent a car and drive a couple hours, or 156 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.639 I can fly to a small the Bend airport and then take an hour shuttle. 157 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.919 You know, so just because I'm on the West Coast doesn't make it 158 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.559 that much easier to get to places like that. Yeah, that's so in 159 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:28.360 those states that are like ten types the size of our states here on the 160 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:33.240 East coast. It's right. I can imagine travel is difficult. I can 161 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:39.000 be, and I can be the Oakmont or you know, any of the 162 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.159 New York City courses, Philadelphia courses, those are all leave at eight o'clock 163 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:48.080 and tee off a noon type of things. Right. Yeah, So what 164 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:54.120 I'm really curious to understand is how did you start the list? I mean, 165 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.120 at what point did you go, oh, wait, this is part 166 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.799 of my bucket list, or did you intentionally like I've got a bucket list 167 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:05.440 to do well. So kind of an interesting story is that the publisher Vello 168 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:13.200 Press, had the idea of a bucket list golf book and came to me 169 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.519 to see if I would want to write it, and I said, yeah, 170 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.919 that'd be all right, but here's what the way I would do it. 171 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.600 And I sent him back an outline of the ten chapters and the ten 172 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:31.279 things within each chapter. So there's one hundred little essays, and you know, 173 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:37.200 they liked it. They hired me, gave me my teeny weeny advance, 174 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:43.440 and I wrote the book for him and So the idea of the bucket 175 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:50.480 list for me was more just an accumulation of thirty years of traveling and playing 176 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:58.519 golf, and based upon a lot of many of it basedupon essays that I 177 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:03.080 had written at some point over the years. So it just occurred to me 178 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.360 that, you know, these are things places you might want to travel to, 179 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.919 courses you might want to play, things you might want to try, 180 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:16.440 things you should do that a lot of golfers don't do. And so it 181 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.039 was more for me it was more of a matter of just compiling the list 182 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.720 as opposed to sitting down and saying, well, where should I what should 183 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:30.159 my bucket list be? I've done look the bucket list things. Yeah. 184 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:35.039 Yeah, So then they all were kind of work related. You had done 185 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.440 these things, they were you know, you've achieved these things not to be 186 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.759 because not just because you wanted to go out and do them, but because 187 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:48.440 it was work related. Yeah, well too, so in the ear early 188 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:54.559 and this is just by dun luck that the timing that we started the magazines 189 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:00.360 nineteen ninety four, some kid, Nick biker Woods is becoming a thing in 190 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.720 golf, and he's bringing all these people into golf. So the magazine just 191 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:10.000 took off and and grew. We were making good money. I had a 192 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:14.679 lot of everybody wanted to be in the golf space at that time, not 193 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:19.320 just golf companies, but car companies, restaurants, things like that. So 194 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:26.000 what of the ways that that some of these came about was every year we 195 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:32.200 would take our biggest advertisers on a golf trip Scotland, Ireland, Wales, 196 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:37.679 I think, always in the UK. But yeah, so so some of 197 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:45.000 those experiences come from that. So I'm just from traveling with friends. Yeah, 198 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.039 I got I got the sense that you the UK staff, the way 199 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.600 you write about it is you've done it multiple times. I've again, Yeah, 200 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.639 I've been very fortunate to go to all of the kingdoms of the UK 201 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:06.640 more than once. I'm part of a group that goes to bally Bunyon every 202 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:11.640 year. I don't go here, so uh we go. We travel with 203 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:18.240 a couple of international members so we can play ballyt Bunyan for I don't know 204 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:23.480 a quarter of the price that if you booked through a tour company. So 205 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:29.079 so some of that, some of some of the adventures essays come from from 206 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:34.680 that group. Yeah, just kind of a combination of everything. Yeah, 207 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:41.039 and luckily for us, the golf travel company that we're working with, he's 208 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:45.240 he's it's a husband and wife team and he is from there and was part 209 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.240 of the Saint Andrews, one of the teams. He was one of the 210 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.400 team captains. So he's got his ends and he can get he can get 211 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.720 tea times where you generally can't, and get him at a reasonable rate as 212 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.440 well. So that's one of the things I'm really excited about doing partnering with 213 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:06.240 this group. Yeah, there were early on and again back in the early 214 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:11.480 nineties, there were a number of people who had those types of connections, 215 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.400 and I think that's dwindled over the years because there became so many tours trying 216 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:19.839 to get tea times and all these famous courses. You know. The one 217 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:25.799 thing that you know, we used tour operators a couple of times, but 218 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:29.519 after you've been there a couple of times, you realize it's really pretty easy 219 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:36.240 to do yourself, especially the Internet. Yeah, and you can save not 220 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:40.880 trying to offend tour companies, especially if they're one of your sponsors. But 221 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:47.319 these are things that with a little work and a little time behind the keyboard, 222 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.480 you can pretty much do yourself these days, but you got to do 223 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:53.920 it, and that's the thing that makes it hard. Like I told you, 224 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:59.079 I did this trip to Scottsdale and just the logistics of doing it myself 225 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.759 was just overwhelmed. So that's why I'm really excited to partner with somebody who 226 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:07.519 knows what they're doing. We also did before before that trip, we had 227 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:11.680 one to Prague and we played golf for a long weekend in Prague with some 228 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.880 listeners who came from various parts of Europe and the United States, and that 229 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.680 was unique. That was interesting. Yeah, I know, there's a couple 230 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.160 of good courses outside of Prague. I've been to Prague, but not to 231 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:29.359 play golf, right, And actually I've seen some marketing recently from the Czech 232 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:33.880 Republic involving golf, so that might yeah. There couldn't even tell you the 233 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:37.640 name of the courses we played. It was like two thousand and eight or 234 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.039 something. It was a long time ago. Wow, Yeah, yeah, 235 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:42.920 yeah, that was a while ago. One of the other t shots that 236 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:47.599 you have in chapter one is something that I have done, but you didn't 237 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.920 mention that part that I was hoping you talk about. It was again they're 238 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:56.160 so brief, but they read quickly and they're they're fun and funny. Teeth 239 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:02.759 of the dog Cosa de compo in the Dominican Republic. What is it number 240 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:08.400 seventeen or eighteen that you're hitting over a runway? So, yes, or 241 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:14.759 you've been you were there a while back as well. Yeah, Yeah, 242 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:18.599 it was my brother in law's wedding. It was a destination wedding and so 243 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:25.519 and he was East Coast base. Yes, and you get these spectacular ocean 244 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:26.720 side holes, a few on the front, a few on the back. 245 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.960 That ended seventeen then eighteen turns back towards the clubhouse. And you used to 246 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:37.480 hit over an active runway and it wasn't as you know then, it wasn't 247 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.599 an active runway for small planes. They had a seven forty seven from Many 248 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:48.279 or Fort Waterdale or wherever, not a seven forty seven seven seven thirty seven 249 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:53.279 landing there a couple of times a day. But it's they've since built an 250 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:59.279 airport. Well now it's the Punta Cane at Airport, Puntakana Airport that you 251 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:03.200 fly into when you have to drive to costume the copal. Yeah, so 252 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:06.920 there's last time I was there it's been about five years. There's no evidence 253 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:11.119 that the Rungway ever existed. And oh wow. The cool thing about that 254 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:18.839 though, was the little thatched roof terminal where you everybody would go in. 255 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.559 They'd go through customs and they give you a little tropical fruity drink and well 256 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:29.440 Dominican Republic. I just remember having to look left. Look, you know, 257 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.000 you're looking down the fairway, but then you got to look left, 258 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.119 and you got to look right, and you got to look up. It's 259 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:38.599 like lock up below. We're gonna take another break. We'll be right back. 260 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:49.160 And before we start talking about other places to go and things to do. 261 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:56.440 You started off the book going I'm a human in your forward cracked me 262 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:03.000 up. It's there are people out there that are just using AI, especially 263 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:11.839 in travel, to compile different aspects of cities or whatever and slapping their name 264 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:18.079 on it and calling it a book. And you buy the book, or 265 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:25.440 you know, you read the book and you know AI cannot write very well, 266 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:27.480 well, you should edit it. I mean take it as a you 267 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:33.319 know, a first draft, right, but if you're going to do it 268 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.559 there, Yeah, but there are people out there who are just scamming. 269 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:44.480 I mean Yeah, exactly. They're putting a pretty picture on the cover and 270 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:49.559 hoping you buy their book. Right. So, the I'm going to go 271 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:52.359 back to the Golf Travel company, like I said, Next year we're going 272 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.960 to hopefully go to UH Saint Andrew's. Later this year, we're going to 273 00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:03.279 do a couple's trip. We're going to go to Portugal and it's going to 274 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.279 be three rounds of golf over nine days. And my wife will be coming 275 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:10.680 on this one as well. So the days that we're playing golf, the 276 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:17.839 non golfers will continue to, you know, tour and go shopping and probably, 277 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.200 knowing my wife, they'll go to spas. Okay, I'm going to 278 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:22.599 play golf, you go to a spa. I'd like to go to the 279 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:27.119 spot too, but I know you don't want to play golf. And so 280 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.640 have you ever played in Portugal? I have not. I haven't even been 281 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.880 to Portugal, played in Spain. Oh, you should come on the trip 282 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:41.519 with us September. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. And it's gonna be 283 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:45.160 a small group too. It's only going to be six couples. Oh, 284 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.200 it's gonna be It should be a lot of fun. It should be a 285 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:51.880 lot of fun, okay, but us destinations that I want to talk about. 286 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.279 What I'm really hoping is that next spring we get to do the Robert 287 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.759 Trent Jones Trail. Let's talk about that one for a few minutes, because 288 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:02.759 you you got into a little more detail and I loved it, and I 289 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:06.480 would love to hear more. I mean, it's hard to do the whole 290 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:11.440 Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail in one trip. So many spots, and most 291 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:18.559 of the places have two or three courses or two courses and a die whole 292 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:26.920 course or a short course. Yeah. The interesting thing about that is not 293 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:33.119 only the quality of the courses, but I think the vision with what as 294 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.799 not only to how it was built, but to golf in the future. 295 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:45.279 And it was built before. Really this Tiger Woods kind of athletic golfer bureau 296 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.119 where you know, Rory McIlroy is hitting the ball three hundred yards in the 297 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:52.920 air, probably even longer than that now. But some of the courses extend 298 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:59.279 over eight thousand yards. Wow, So I would advise not playing them from 299 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:03.519 the back to I have not, I mean I promise I will not. 300 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:11.400 Eight thousand yards is a little uh, it's still a long walk. But 301 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:18.400 it's also a cool way to see Alabama right again, kind of a you 302 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.680 know, not an East coast state, now a West coast state. A 303 00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:26.920 little different than both of those places. And the Rock Trent Jones golf Trail 304 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:33.240 will get you to a lot of the cities and towns in Alabama. Yeah, 305 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:37.839 it's a different type of Alabama. I actually last month went on a 306 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:45.559 civil rights tour of Alabama doing Birmingham, Selma, and montgomer Interesting and it 307 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:51.400 was absolutely fascinating. Got another guest coming up in the next couple of weeks 308 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:56.240 who wrote a book about doing his own bucket list playing the top one hundred 309 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:00.799 courses in the country. But there is a man who grew up having next 310 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.640 to nothing growing you know, growing up without electricity and without water and stuff, 311 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.359 and he has a fascinating story. So I really I'm excited to be 312 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.680 able to talk to Jimmy James about that one because of the experience that I 313 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:19.359 had in Selma and Montgomery, very very powerful. Highly recommend that trip to 314 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:23.440 people. Yeah, and if you can incorporate golf to it, it's going 315 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:29.640 to be a completely different viewpoint of what's going on in Alabama. Yeah, 316 00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:33.799 I imagine that your two trips are going to be quite different. And yeah, 317 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.400 yeah, so how many trips? How many courses are on the Robbert 318 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.960 Trent Jones Trail you were I currently, I can't remember exactly that. I 319 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:45.720 think there's eight or nine sites, but again, most of the sites have 320 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:49.319 two or three courses. I think, Wow, you have twenty seven to 321 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:53.160 thirty courses somewhere. Yeah, and they are so yeah, so you can't 322 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.759 do the whole thing. You pick and choose, but I don't think there's 323 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:03.519 any right or wrong decisions when you're picking the using from those courses. And 324 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:08.119 I have not played them all or even but you have played some of them, 325 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.920 yeah, but I haven't played close to all of them. Yeah. 326 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.079 Oh, maybe we'll do it for multiple times. But there's so many different 327 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.880 places in the United States that I want to try to do to attend to 328 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:27.160 go to. Let's see, So how about Pinehurst. Now that's another place 329 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:33.319 I'd love to make a trip coming up in the future. There's multiple courses 330 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.000 at Pinehurst. What can you share with us about going there? Oh? 331 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.359 Yeah, So for me, Pinehurst is a five hour drive. We go 332 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.759 down there every year with a group from our club we have about thirty six 333 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:52.160 guys that go down. Wow. We don't always play at the resort because 334 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:57.440 there's so many outstanding courses down there. I'm Pinehurst Number two obviously is the 335 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:07.720 pen down there. I keep calling it the recent Crenshaw Core redesign, but 336 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.680 it's it's got to be close to ten years old, if not more. 337 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:18.880 It is really spectacular. I've played both the pre design pre redesign and the 338 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:26.200 post redesign. Uh And while the holes all follow the same layout, the 339 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:27.799 greens are in the same place as the tea's are in the same place as 340 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:36.559 the view. The periphery, the ball sand and whatether they call it, 341 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:44.400 the scrub grass that grows in the sand is all much different than what it 342 00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:49.559 used to be, which is just traditional tree lined fairway ralph green layout. 343 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.400 Now the now Pinehurst has put in a lot of effort into redoing their other 344 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.359 courses as well. So the number four course, which was an original Donald 345 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:10.960 Ross course, was recently redesigned to think by Gil Hants that's become a spectacular 346 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:17.160 course. The first course, which was just kind of a small shortest course, 347 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:23.640 was redesigned. They just right about now they're opening their tenth course, 348 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.240 and I'm not sure what it's called. It's open in time for the US 349 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:34.720 Open this year, and it's on the site of an old golf course called 350 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:44.119 the Pit. So yeah, that's like the American golf Mecca. And then 351 00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.559 outside, within just a few miles of the resort itself, you have Pine 352 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:55.359 Needles Midpines, both Donald Ross designs from the nineteen twenties thirties in that area. 353 00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.519 In the next town over in southern high this is Son of Tines Golf 354 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:06.200 Club or country Club, another Donald Ross design. If you're a Donald Ross 355 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:12.960 fan, you have to get to Pinehurst. Are you a fan of golf 356 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:21.599 architecture or a student kind of? I mean I like the classic designs. 357 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.440 Uh. You know, here on the East Coast we have a lot of 358 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:33.960 Tilling Hasts and William flann and Donald Ross courses, so those are intriguing to 359 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:40.519 me. Yeah, we have the Alistair McKenzie Alistair McKenzie as well. Yeah, 360 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.839 going a blank on the one right down the road from you, the 361 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:53.440 public course. Yes, I played that once when it was at the tail 362 00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:59.359 end of a six year drought and it was in horrendous ship. It was 363 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:04.640 not fun at all. Yeah, So dried out. It was in January 364 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:11.119 after a torrential rainfalls. This was back in ninety five, ninety six. 365 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:18.759 I think, so we're going back. But yeah, Pinehurst for the golf 366 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:27.960 officionado and the aficionado of golf architecture is a must awesome. Let's take one 367 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:37.359 more break and we'll be back right after this. Jeff, what's your favorite 368 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:42.240 place in the country to travel to in the United States to go play? 369 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.200 Because in your book, you you know, I mean, you're not just 370 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:51.039 Pinehurst and we have to already talk about Pinehurst. We've talked about Bandon Dunes 371 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.559 and the Robert Trent Jones Trail in Alabama. But there's other locations in the 372 00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.839 Midwest and in the Southwest, in you know, north Theast. There's so 373 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:05.039 many places to go that I'm just trying to figure out, you know, 374 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.119 what other places can we do if we do one trip a year in the 375 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.640 United States and one trip internationally because I want to go to New Zealand, 376 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:15.640 I want to go to Australia, what kind of trips can we do? 377 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.599 What do you what do you think? Yeah, that would be hard to 378 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.559 you know, it's it's hard to narrow it down to just one because there 379 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:32.400 are so many great trips to be done. Big Cedar Lodge in the Ozark 380 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.720 Mountains, Yeah, tell me about that. So I got a group of 381 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:44.240 friends who are there right now actually, But that's the Tiger Woods design. 382 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:50.359 I believe it's his only public, publicly accessible course of the few that he's 383 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:57.000 designed. Paynes Valley is the name of the course. It's just it's big, 384 00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.039 and it's wide, and it's hard, and it's spectacular in the big, 385 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.599 wide, and hard. Those are three words you don't nicearily hear describing 386 00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:08.400 a golf course. But yeah, you don't think of the Ozark Mountains and 387 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:15.599 it is as a golf destination. But there are a number of good courses 388 00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:24.000 at the resort there. And that's the Bass Pro Shop. Johnny Morris built 389 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:32.279 that in one of those kind of spare no expense types of uh of resorts. 390 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:42.599 There's some really interesting golf in Northern Michigan along Lake Michigan and Inland. 391 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:52.640 Right which courses stand out in your mind? In northern Missisan Bay Harbor is 392 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.519 probably the one that stands out the most just because of its uniqueness. The 393 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:04.440 holes along Lake Michigan, the twenty seven holes there and each are very different 394 00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:09.320 ones along the lake. Ones built in an old quarry and the other one 395 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:17.920 is uh, I think just through a wooded feature there. But then there's 396 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.800 there's a couple of uh. There's several courses of a resort called Boyne Mountain. 397 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.199 Rob some Robert Trent Jones courses. There's a Donald Ross tribute course. 398 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:37.639 Very interesting stuff up there. You know, Florida take take your pick. 399 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:42.800 Yeah you could. If you want to do one US trip a year, 400 00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.960 you could do it for the next twenty years in Florida and not go to 401 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:52.079 the place. You know, the you know, to pick the favorite though, 402 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:59.199 and I'm a big first fan. Yeah, it's convenient. I've played 403 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:05.960 almost everything down there. Uh. There's great courses and there are good courses, 404 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.000 but there's really not many bad courses down there. That's good to know. 405 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:14.199 It's good to know. Tell me about destination Color. Okay, Yeah, 406 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:22.719 so again along Lake Michigan, big and hard and wide. Pete Dye 407 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:30.400 will you know it's Pete Die. I'll say it is best, but you 408 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:36.639 know, the better word is maybe you know, diabolical. Seeing that course 409 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:42.920 and that's d y E course on on TV. So everybody knows how hard 410 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:49.679 it is. Uh in the Straits course there black Wolf Fraud, Uh, 411 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:57.840 several courses there. Wisconsin actually has two more golf destinations at sand Hills and 412 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.760 Aaron Hills. Uh just come on within the last twenty years, which I 413 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:07.639 have not been to. So yeah, so Wisconsin is you could spend a 414 00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:15.119 couple of weeks in Wisconsin play some awfully good course courses. Yeah, but 415 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.519 it's not necessarily you'd want to go to Chicago and try to play around there. 416 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:22.519 You want to like move up to Michigan and in northern Michigan and has 417 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:30.559 some great courses obviously some great private clubs. Yeah see, but that's you 418 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.199 know, private clubs. All of a sudden, if you're not a member 419 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:37.039 of something, it's hard to get reciprocal, you know, and get on 420 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.679 these courses. It's not like flying over to the UK and playing their private 421 00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:45.400 clubs where they welcome you and you can play bally Banyan and yeah, what 422 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:51.599 up about that? Many exactly. I feel sorry for the good English golfers 423 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.039 and Scottish golfers and Irish golfers who want to come over here, and I 424 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:59.800 mean there's some good they could play. Bethley Black and there's plenty of good 425 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.679 sorts. But you know back in I know, Mont or Shnecock, right, 426 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.320 one of the we talked earlier about, you, you know, discovering 427 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:15.719 the West in the United States, and you discovered the great golf in the 428 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.760 Coachella Valley of Palm Springs, Palm Desert area. Yep. Yeah, a 429 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.480 lot of good golf there. I was there. It's been many years for 430 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:30.519 that one as well. Some great courses down there, but yeah, and 431 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:34.199 you know the ones you see in the Scottsdale in Las Vegas, Palm you 432 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.519 know, Palm Springs, Scottsdale, Las Vegas. Yeah, and he's got 433 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.480 a lot of great golf something to do during the day in Las Vegas. 434 00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:45.039 So yeah, take your clubs and play some great golf there. A short 435 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:51.360 drive back towards the east from Las Vegas is Mesquite, where there are some 436 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:57.079 spectacular courses. Have you ever been down to San Diego I have Tory Pines. 437 00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:01.559 I have not. But when the weather here for December through March is 438 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:07.639 awful, that should be that should be on my bucket list next or yes, 439 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:13.119 we're your next book. Yeah, yeah, awesome Again. The book 440 00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.639 is called The Golf Bucket List one hundred Ideas for Enjoying the Great Game of 441 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:22.760 Golf by Jeff Thorson. Jeff, thank you so much for your time today. 442 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:28.119 I enjoyed the book and enjoyed the lessons that I've learned from doing it 443 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.639 and helping to build my own list. Oh well, good, Yeah, 444 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.400 let me get you posted on your where you're off to next? But your 445 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:42.159 trips here that you've got plans sound great? Oh? I hope you are 446 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.679 as inspired as I am. What I take away from that conversation is that 447 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:51.639 golf is about experiences. Whether it's getting a hole in one, which I 448 00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:55.000 did in Las Vegas with buddies in two thousand and nine, or sinking a 449 00:38:55.119 --> 00:39:00.559 sixty foot putt, which is etched into my mind from our Golf Smart adventure 450 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.400 to Prague, or as I mentioned, walking up to a tea box that 451 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:10.119 is surrounded by grandstands like we also did with Golf Smarter Listeners at TPC Scottsdale, 452 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:15.039 or the winds at Bandon Dune's or the pot belly pig that greeted us 453 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:21.199 each week on the fourth hole at Adobe Creek. What makes golf unique compared 454 00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:27.079 to most other sports. It's all about the experiences we have when we're on 455 00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:31.519 the course. Now, I marvel at my friends who can recall almost every 456 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:37.079 hole we've ever played. I can't do that, but I still want the 457 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:44.639 opportunity to experience the thrill, the beauty, the frustration and the joy that 458 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.800 only golf can offer. So why don't you join me and my wife this 459 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:53.800 coming September in Portugal to create our own experiences together. We're going to be 460 00:39:53.880 --> 00:40:00.760 playing in Villemorra, which moosts five exceptional golf courses that were built and designed 461 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:06.840 for those with exquisite taste who are eager to do something different. We start 462 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.920 our sightseeing tour in Lisbon, but then take a short bus ride to Villemora, 463 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.800 which has beautiful sandy beaches, fine dining, chic bars, and more 464 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:22.639 so the views are fantastic. You heard Jeff talk earlier about going with thirty 465 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.599 six guys on his annual trip to Pinehurst. But here's the great part of 466 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.920 our trip. We're limiting the size of the group to six couples, so 467 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:37.760 that could mean as many as eleven or as little as six golfers, quite 468 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:43.239 manageable since my wife, Joanne is not a golfer, which is why I 469 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:47.159 said as many as eleven golfers for twelve people. But golf isn't required on 470 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.920 this journey, so you too can bring a non playing partner to take in 471 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:57.960 the sites, sun, exploration and relaxation while we're on the golf course. 472 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:02.280 We're partnering with t MII Golf Travel Company to handle all the logistics so that 473 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:07.480 twice each year you and I can check off some of our own golf bucket 474 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:12.039 list items. This is a nine day trip that includes three rounds of golf, 475 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.159 walking tours, wine tasting, and a boat trip. Again, this 476 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:21.920 is a couple's excursion. Non golfers will experience an optional spa visit, sightseeing 477 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.159 and shopportunities. If you'd prefer, you can play golf every day while we're 478 00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:31.079 in Phillemora. The trip is scheduled for September fifth through the thirteenth, twenty 479 00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.639 twenty four, So clear your calendar and let's do this. To get all 480 00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:43.760 the information pricing and download the detailed pdf, please visit TMI goolf dot com 481 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.440 slash golf Smarter. If you have any questions, you can write to me 482 00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:52.639 directly. I want to thank this week's golf Smarter Ambassador Edward Appt, who 483 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.320 plays at Stewart Creek golf Course in Canmore, Alberta, Canada. Now I 484 00:41:55.320 --> 00:42:00.360 looked up the course and my goodness, is that abuse full country that surrounds 485 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:06.199 the golf course and the photos from around the course also show visits by both 486 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:12.880 black bears and moose okay that I want to see. 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