1 00:00:02,359 --> 00:00:06,679 Golf is unlike other sports. It's a lifestyle. It opens so many doors 2 00:00:06,719 --> 00:00:11,640 for you travel, personal introspection. So I wanted the book to be not 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,000 telling the reader what courses they should play. There's a little bit of that 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,600 in there, and there's a little bit of what countries you might find enjoyable, 5 00:00:19,719 --> 00:00:23,640 but it's all personal experiences. I don't care how good of a writer 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,480 you are. You can't describe a golf hole so that the reader is going 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,520 to give an actual picture in their mind. So when I write about the 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,719 golf hole, like the first hole at the old course at Saint Andrew's, 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,840 it's not about the hole itself. It's about the experience of playing that hole, 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,799 because that hole was unlike any others. Hi, this is Edward app 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,799 from can Law, Alberta, and I played golf at Stuart Creek Golf and 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:54,399 Country Club. This is golf Smarter number nine forty eight, one hundred ideas 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,240 for creating your own golf bucket list with the author of the book, Jeff 14 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:06,239 Thorrison, is golf Smarter sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf minds 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,239 to help you lower your score and raise your golf IQ. Here's your host 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Jeff. Thanks Fred, 17 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:21,120 pleasure to be here. It's great to have you on. This is a 18 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:25,920 book that I first of all, you're an excellent writer, and I was 19 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,359 really entertained all the way through everything that I've read up to this point, 20 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,439 and I'm still reading it. All right, Well, thank you, appreciate 21 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,239 it. All right. So, and you've been a writer for a long 22 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:44,120 time writing golf. So yeah, started as a reporter on coming out of 23 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,000 college, doing news and politics and that sort of thing. Started my own 24 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,120 business in the early nineties, and then in nineteen ninety four we started a 25 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,920 just a whim actually started a golf magazine, which grew into a golf magazine 26 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:05,239 that had issues in seven different cities here on the East Coast. Well, 27 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,840 okay, so yeah, So since about ninety four, I've done my share 28 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:16,000 of golf writing. So the idea of a golf bucket list is on everybody's 29 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:22,120 mind and everybody must have one, although I never really thought of it as 30 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:25,520 a golf bucket list for me until I started reading this and then started going, 31 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,680 well, wait a minute, this is a great idea. I should 32 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:38,159 have a golf bucket list, right, everyone should. Yeah, you know, 33 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:40,120 there's a ton written on golf bucket lists, and they're roll about what 34 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,960 courses you should play in, what countries you should travel to. And I 35 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:51,000 tried to take a little bit of a different approach on this. It's more, 36 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,280 you know, golf is Golf is unlike other sports. You know this 37 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,319 it's a lifestyle. It opens so many doors for you travel, you know, 38 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,639 personal introspection, things like that. So I wanted the book to be 39 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:13,759 not telling the reader what courses they should play. There's a little bit of 40 00:03:13,759 --> 00:03:16,199 that in there, and there's a little bit of what countries you might find 41 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:23,120 enjoyable, but it's all it's all personal experiences. And I say early in 42 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,800 the book that I've been very fortunate to be able to do not all these 43 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,360 things, but most of them. And I don't care how good of a 44 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:42,719 writer you are, you can't describe a golf hole so that the reader is 45 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:47,120 going to get an actual picture in their mind. So when I write about 46 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:51,479 a golf hole, like the first hole a deal course at Saint Andrew's, 47 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:55,280 it's not about the hole itself. It's about the experience of playing that hole. 48 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:59,879 Because that hole was unlike any others. I mean, it's relatively not 49 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,759 the script, flat, uninteresting hole, but it's all the circumstances around it. 50 00:04:04,759 --> 00:04:09,439 It's the people, they are watching you, it's the history, is 51 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:12,680 the fact that every great player who's ever played the game has stood on that 52 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,079 same piece of ground, exactly that same piece of ground and hit that shot 53 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,600 that you're about to hit. Wow. So that was the That was the 54 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:28,199 intent is just to suggest some things that you might find interesting. Well, 55 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:32,000 that's what I loved, especially about that particular you know, in each each 56 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:38,759 of your elements let's call them because they're not chapters necessarily, but they're just 57 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:44,040 tidbits. They're they're short, they're really quick. So it's a great it's 58 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:46,360 a great gift book because it's quick reading, you know, keep it next 59 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:53,560 to the toilet type of thing reading. Right, And when you talked about 60 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,600 number one at Saint Andrew's, I was able to, like you were able 61 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:04,480 to express your feelings and the emotion of standing there and being watched, and 62 00:05:04,759 --> 00:05:10,800 I really thoroughly enjoyed that. Well, thanks, and yeah, that's exactly 63 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:17,079 the intent is. Because you know, there's been thousands of articles written about 64 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:24,199 Saint Andrews in the first hole at Saint Andrews. But it's really until you're 65 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,160 actually there and standing on the t box and all the people are milling about 66 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,319 watching you, and and all the history kind of collapses in on you because 67 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:38,600 you're right there in front of the old course clubhouse and there's members, you 68 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,160 know, it's very exclusive in there, and they're looking out the window watching 69 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,279 to see what's going on on their first tee. So so yeah, I'm 70 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,240 trying to give you that experience, still hopes that you'll say, oh, 71 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,279 yeah, I got to do this well. I want to. I want 72 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:59,240 to pick a bunch of those apart with you, And mainly because talk about 73 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,879 bucket list. I've partnered with a golf travel company here on the podcast, 74 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:09,759 and we're going to be taking golf adventures twice a year for the next couple 75 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,600 of years hopefully everybody, you know, health permitting, but I'm going to 76 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:19,600 be doing hopefully next in twenty twenty five. In the fall of twenty twenty 77 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:24,360 five or late summer, we're going to try to go to Saint Andrew's. 78 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,279 We're going to try to play there. And there's other places in your book 79 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,519 that I want to talk about because I want your advice about going to these 80 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:36,399 places, and we'll get to that in a minute. But when you talk 81 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:43,920 about early on and you had number seventeen whole Tournament Players Club at Sawgrass. 82 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:49,399 But what I loved is what you wrote about how you stated other sports teach 83 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:56,959 equality and teamwork and that great things can be accomplished if everyone does their best, 84 00:06:57,319 --> 00:07:01,399 works together and lifts each other up for the common good. Golf will 85 00:07:01,399 --> 00:07:10,360 have none of that. Golf teaches that the world is cruel, a cruel, 86 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,439 harsh place that the Cosmos couldn't care the hell less that you broke at 87 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:18,839 you last week. With every new round, you must prove yourself again, 88 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:26,399 well, stated my friend. Well, and that's nowhere more appropriate than at 89 00:07:26,439 --> 00:07:31,720 the seventeenth hole that Tournament Players Club at Sawgrass, Because again, it's a 90 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:36,160 shot that you've seen everybody hit. But until you stand there and you look 91 00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:40,040 at that green, and the green is actually I believe it's the biggest green 92 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:45,199 on the course. But until you stand there and you look over all that 93 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:49,319 water and you think about all the bad things that can happen, it's you 94 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:56,120 know, TV just doesn't do a justice again experience, right, and I 95 00:07:56,319 --> 00:08:01,600 had that kind of experience. I did a golf smart adventure with some listeners 96 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:07,360 back in two thousand and nine. We went to Scottsdale and we played TPC 97 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:16,759 Scottsdale the week after the waste management opened and the grand stands were still up. 98 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,279 They were empty, but they were still there. And when we walked 99 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:24,759 on to number sixteen, like my knees were shaking. I'm just hitting to 100 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:28,600 the green, but with all those stands around there, I could just feel 101 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:33,320 it. And you talk about that's one of the places you need to put 102 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,200 on your bucket list is to go to that event. Well, yeah, 103 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:43,440 that one, I believe that's in the same chapter. And yeah, answer, 104 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:46,879 then the chapter of tournaments you need to do it? Just chapter three, 105 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,960 right, Yeah, I mean, and that's one I haven't done. 106 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,919 All you know, cards on the table, that's one I haven't done. 107 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,320 But you know, you watched on TV and you think, just how cool 108 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:05,799 is this because it goes against everything the professional tournament golf kind of stands for. 109 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,960 You know, the crowd is rowdy and they're not really paying attention to 110 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:18,519 being quiet when there when the player is hitting and refreshing change. I think 111 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:20,679 there should be more of that. I think there's room for more of that. 112 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:26,279 And professional golf, well, you know, there's another golf entity trying 113 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,559 to do that, and I don't know if it's connecting very well with the 114 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:35,120 fans. I tend to agree, let's take a time out. We'll come 115 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:39,000 back and we're going to find out how the heck you got to do all 116 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:43,039 these things. We'll be back with Jeff Thorrison on his book The Golf Bucket 117 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:54,480 List right after this. Well, you just mentioned that you haven't done TPC 118 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:58,399 Scottsdale at the Waste Management open and you know, and there's parts of the 119 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:05,399 book where you I get frustrated with people when you're you make it seem like 120 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:11,120 the West Coast is a different continent. This East Coast bias is like, 121 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:13,519 all right, we have a nine o'clock meeting. Excuse me, that's five 122 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,720 in the morning for me. I can't do that, right, What do 123 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:22,559 you mean? Oh? Yeah, okay? And like when you came out 124 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,120 to Bandon Dunes is a good examples, Like why would I go to the 125 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,519 west when I can go to the east and just play those original courses? 126 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,000 Talk about Bandon Dunes. I mean, yeah, that's kind of the the 127 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,240 issue we have here on the west, on the East coast New York. 128 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:45,840 I'm New York and Washington centric, so it's easy to hop on a plane 129 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:52,039 out of Dulles or JFK and land almost anywhere in Europe the next morning, 130 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,320 and getting to Bandon Dunes is flight here and a connection there. And then 131 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,519 you gotta somehow get from Portland to been to Oregon, which is not the 132 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:09,679 easiest thing, whether you drive or well or fly right, But that said, 133 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:18,799 it's worth it. Uh spectacular West Coast Links golf is very different from 134 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Links golf in the UK, but it's not any worse. It's modern links 135 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,799 golf, but the courses are spectacular, the shots are crazy. I forget 136 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,799 which hole it was, but there's a couple of t shots that are just 137 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:43,559 spectacular on that property. Uh so yeah, so definitely worth it. And 138 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,559 you also had an affinity towards Pebble Beach and the you know, the Monterey 139 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:54,919 Peninsula. Yeah like that. I've only been there one time. I only 140 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:00,399 played Pebble Beach one time. Me too, but you know, again, 141 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,639 you know, not try to tell people what their bucket list should be. 142 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:11,879 But for me, that was another experience that kind of goes beyond what you 143 00:12:11,919 --> 00:12:16,080 see on TV or what you read in the magazines things like that. You 144 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,440 know, playing those ocean side holes are just you know, you don't get 145 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:26,639 that very very many other places. Right. So, I'm just north of 146 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:33,159 San Francisco and it's a three plus hour drive for me to get down to 147 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:37,360 Pebble. And you know, you don't want to necessarily stay at the lodge 148 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:43,399 there because it becomes incredibly expensive if you do that. But if you know, 149 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,799 the only way you can get a tea time is if you book your 150 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,519 room in the lodge. Otherwise, if you call within twenty four hours ahead 151 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,080 of the time you want to play. So that means like, oh, 152 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:58,600 I just booked six am tomorrow morning at Pebble, I have to leave house 153 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:01,519 at two. Oh yeah, I don't think I'm gonna be doing that. 154 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,399 And even for me to get to Bandon Dunes is an all day event if 155 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:13,039 I fly through Portland after rent a car and drive a couple hours, or 156 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,639 I can fly to a small the Bend airport and then take an hour shuttle. 157 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,919 You know, so just because I'm on the West Coast doesn't make it 158 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,559 that much easier to get to places like that. Yeah, that's so in 159 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,360 those states that are like ten types the size of our states here on the 160 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:33,240 East coast. It's right. I can imagine travel is difficult. I can 161 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:39,000 be, and I can be the Oakmont or you know, any of the 162 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:43,159 New York City courses, Philadelphia courses, those are all leave at eight o'clock 163 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,080 and tee off a noon type of things. Right. Yeah, So what 164 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:54,120 I'm really curious to understand is how did you start the list? I mean, 165 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,120 at what point did you go, oh, wait, this is part 166 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,799 of my bucket list, or did you intentionally like I've got a bucket list 167 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,440 to do well. So kind of an interesting story is that the publisher Vello 168 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Press, had the idea of a bucket list golf book and came to me 169 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,519 to see if I would want to write it, and I said, yeah, 170 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,919 that'd be all right, but here's what the way I would do it. 171 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,600 And I sent him back an outline of the ten chapters and the ten 172 00:14:24,679 --> 00:14:31,279 things within each chapter. So there's one hundred little essays, and you know, 173 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:37,200 they liked it. They hired me, gave me my teeny weeny advance, 174 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:43,440 and I wrote the book for him and So the idea of the bucket 175 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:50,480 list for me was more just an accumulation of thirty years of traveling and playing 176 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:58,519 golf, and based upon a lot of many of it basedupon essays that I 177 00:14:58,559 --> 00:15:03,080 had written at some point over the years. So it just occurred to me 178 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,360 that, you know, these are things places you might want to travel to, 179 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:09,919 courses you might want to play, things you might want to try, 180 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,440 things you should do that a lot of golfers don't do. And so it 181 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:20,039 was more for me it was more of a matter of just compiling the list 182 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,720 as opposed to sitting down and saying, well, where should I what should 183 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:30,159 my bucket list be? I've done look the bucket list things. Yeah. 184 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,039 Yeah, So then they all were kind of work related. You had done 185 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:39,440 these things, they were you know, you've achieved these things not to be 186 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,759 because not just because you wanted to go out and do them, but because 187 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:48,440 it was work related. Yeah, well too, so in the ear early 188 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:54,559 and this is just by dun luck that the timing that we started the magazines 189 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:00,360 nineteen ninety four, some kid, Nick biker Woods is becoming a thing in 190 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,720 golf, and he's bringing all these people into golf. So the magazine just 191 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:10,000 took off and and grew. We were making good money. I had a 192 00:16:10,039 --> 00:16:14,679 lot of everybody wanted to be in the golf space at that time, not 193 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:19,320 just golf companies, but car companies, restaurants, things like that. So 194 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:26,000 what of the ways that that some of these came about was every year we 195 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:32,200 would take our biggest advertisers on a golf trip Scotland, Ireland, Wales, 196 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,679 I think, always in the UK. But yeah, so so some of 197 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:45,000 those experiences come from that. So I'm just from traveling with friends. Yeah, 198 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,039 I got I got the sense that you the UK staff, the way 199 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:52,600 you write about it is you've done it multiple times. I've again, Yeah, 200 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,639 I've been very fortunate to go to all of the kingdoms of the UK 201 00:16:57,639 --> 00:17:06,640 more than once. I'm part of a group that goes to bally Bunyon every 202 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:11,640 year. I don't go here, so uh we go. We travel with 203 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:18,240 a couple of international members so we can play ballyt Bunyan for I don't know 204 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:23,480 a quarter of the price that if you booked through a tour company. So 205 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:29,079 so some of that, some of some of the adventures essays come from from 206 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:34,680 that group. Yeah, just kind of a combination of everything. Yeah, 207 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:41,039 and luckily for us, the golf travel company that we're working with, he's 208 00:17:41,079 --> 00:17:45,240 he's it's a husband and wife team and he is from there and was part 209 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:48,240 of the Saint Andrews, one of the teams. He was one of the 210 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:52,400 team captains. So he's got his ends and he can get he can get 211 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,720 tea times where you generally can't, and get him at a reasonable rate as 212 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,440 well. So that's one of the things I'm really excited about doing partnering with 213 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:06,240 this group. Yeah, there were early on and again back in the early 214 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:11,480 nineties, there were a number of people who had those types of connections, 215 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:15,400 and I think that's dwindled over the years because there became so many tours trying 216 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,839 to get tea times and all these famous courses. You know. The one 217 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:25,799 thing that you know, we used tour operators a couple of times, but 218 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,519 after you've been there a couple of times, you realize it's really pretty easy 219 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:36,240 to do yourself, especially the Internet. Yeah, and you can save not 220 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:40,880 trying to offend tour companies, especially if they're one of your sponsors. But 221 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:47,319 these are things that with a little work and a little time behind the keyboard, 222 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,480 you can pretty much do yourself these days, but you got to do 223 00:18:51,599 --> 00:18:53,920 it, and that's the thing that makes it hard. Like I told you, 224 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,079 I did this trip to Scottsdale and just the logistics of doing it myself 225 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,759 was just overwhelmed. So that's why I'm really excited to partner with somebody who 226 00:19:02,759 --> 00:19:07,519 knows what they're doing. We also did before before that trip, we had 227 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:11,680 one to Prague and we played golf for a long weekend in Prague with some 228 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:15,880 listeners who came from various parts of Europe and the United States, and that 229 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,680 was unique. That was interesting. Yeah, I know, there's a couple 230 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,160 of good courses outside of Prague. I've been to Prague, but not to 231 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:29,359 play golf, right, And actually I've seen some marketing recently from the Czech 232 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,880 Republic involving golf, so that might yeah. There couldn't even tell you the 233 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,640 name of the courses we played. It was like two thousand and eight or 234 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,039 something. It was a long time ago. Wow, Yeah, yeah, 235 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,920 yeah, that was a while ago. One of the other t shots that 236 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,599 you have in chapter one is something that I have done, but you didn't 237 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:51,920 mention that part that I was hoping you talk about. It was again they're 238 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,160 so brief, but they read quickly and they're they're fun and funny. Teeth 239 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:02,759 of the dog Cosa de compo in the Dominican Republic. What is it number 240 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,400 seventeen or eighteen that you're hitting over a runway? So, yes, or 241 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,759 you've been you were there a while back as well. Yeah, Yeah, 242 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,599 it was my brother in law's wedding. It was a destination wedding and so 243 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:25,519 and he was East Coast base. Yes, and you get these spectacular ocean 244 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:26,720 side holes, a few on the front, a few on the back. 245 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:30,960 That ended seventeen then eighteen turns back towards the clubhouse. And you used to 246 00:20:32,039 --> 00:20:37,480 hit over an active runway and it wasn't as you know then, it wasn't 247 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,599 an active runway for small planes. They had a seven forty seven from Many 248 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:48,279 or Fort Waterdale or wherever, not a seven forty seven seven seven thirty seven 249 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:53,279 landing there a couple of times a day. But it's they've since built an 250 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:59,279 airport. Well now it's the Punta Cane at Airport, Puntakana Airport that you 251 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:03,200 fly into when you have to drive to costume the copal. Yeah, so 252 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:06,920 there's last time I was there it's been about five years. There's no evidence 253 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,119 that the Rungway ever existed. And oh wow. The cool thing about that 254 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:18,839 though, was the little thatched roof terminal where you everybody would go in. 255 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,559 They'd go through customs and they give you a little tropical fruity drink and well 256 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:29,440 Dominican Republic. I just remember having to look left. Look, you know, 257 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,000 you're looking down the fairway, but then you got to look left, 258 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,119 and you got to look right, and you got to look up. It's 259 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,599 like lock up below. We're gonna take another break. We'll be right back. 260 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,160 And before we start talking about other places to go and things to do. 261 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,440 You started off the book going I'm a human in your forward cracked me 262 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:03,000 up. It's there are people out there that are just using AI, especially 263 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:11,839 in travel, to compile different aspects of cities or whatever and slapping their name 264 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:18,079 on it and calling it a book. And you buy the book, or 265 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:25,440 you know, you read the book and you know AI cannot write very well, 266 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:27,480 well, you should edit it. I mean take it as a you 267 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:33,319 know, a first draft, right, but if you're going to do it 268 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,559 there, Yeah, but there are people out there who are just scamming. 269 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:44,480 I mean Yeah, exactly. They're putting a pretty picture on the cover and 270 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:49,559 hoping you buy their book. Right. So, the I'm going to go 271 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:52,359 back to the Golf Travel company, like I said, Next year we're going 272 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,960 to hopefully go to UH Saint Andrew's. Later this year, we're going to 273 00:22:57,279 --> 00:23:03,279 do a couple's trip. We're going to go to Portugal and it's going to 274 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,279 be three rounds of golf over nine days. And my wife will be coming 275 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:10,680 on this one as well. So the days that we're playing golf, the 276 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:17,839 non golfers will continue to, you know, tour and go shopping and probably, 277 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,200 knowing my wife, they'll go to spas. Okay, I'm going to 278 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,599 play golf, you go to a spa. I'd like to go to the 279 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,119 spot too, but I know you don't want to play golf. And so 280 00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:30,640 have you ever played in Portugal? I have not. I haven't even been 281 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,880 to Portugal, played in Spain. Oh, you should come on the trip 282 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:41,519 with us September. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. And it's gonna be 283 00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:45,160 a small group too. It's only going to be six couples. Oh, 284 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:48,200 it's gonna be It should be a lot of fun. It should be a 285 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,880 lot of fun, okay, but us destinations that I want to talk about. 286 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:56,279 What I'm really hoping is that next spring we get to do the Robert 287 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:59,759 Trent Jones Trail. Let's talk about that one for a few minutes, because 288 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:02,759 you you got into a little more detail and I loved it, and I 289 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:06,480 would love to hear more. I mean, it's hard to do the whole 290 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:11,440 Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail in one trip. So many spots, and most 291 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:18,559 of the places have two or three courses or two courses and a die whole 292 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:26,920 course or a short course. Yeah. The interesting thing about that is not 293 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:33,119 only the quality of the courses, but I think the vision with what as 294 00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:37,799 not only to how it was built, but to golf in the future. 295 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:45,279 And it was built before. Really this Tiger Woods kind of athletic golfer bureau 296 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,119 where you know, Rory McIlroy is hitting the ball three hundred yards in the 297 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,920 air, probably even longer than that now. But some of the courses extend 298 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:59,279 over eight thousand yards. Wow, So I would advise not playing them from 299 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:03,519 the back to I have not, I mean I promise I will not. 300 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:11,400 Eight thousand yards is a little uh, it's still a long walk. But 301 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:18,400 it's also a cool way to see Alabama right again, kind of a you 302 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,680 know, not an East coast state, now a West coast state. A 303 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,920 little different than both of those places. And the Rock Trent Jones golf Trail 304 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,240 will get you to a lot of the cities and towns in Alabama. Yeah, 305 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:37,839 it's a different type of Alabama. I actually last month went on a 306 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:45,559 civil rights tour of Alabama doing Birmingham, Selma, and montgomer Interesting and it 307 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:51,400 was absolutely fascinating. Got another guest coming up in the next couple of weeks 308 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,240 who wrote a book about doing his own bucket list playing the top one hundred 309 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,799 courses in the country. But there is a man who grew up having next 310 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:03,640 to nothing growing you know, growing up without electricity and without water and stuff, 311 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,359 and he has a fascinating story. So I really I'm excited to be 312 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,680 able to talk to Jimmy James about that one because of the experience that I 313 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:19,359 had in Selma and Montgomery, very very powerful. Highly recommend that trip to 314 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,440 people. Yeah, and if you can incorporate golf to it, it's going 315 00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:29,640 to be a completely different viewpoint of what's going on in Alabama. Yeah, 316 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,799 I imagine that your two trips are going to be quite different. And yeah, 317 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,400 yeah, so how many trips? How many courses are on the Robbert 318 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,960 Trent Jones Trail you were I currently, I can't remember exactly that. I 319 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,720 think there's eight or nine sites, but again, most of the sites have 320 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:49,319 two or three courses. I think, Wow, you have twenty seven to 321 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,160 thirty courses somewhere. Yeah, and they are so yeah, so you can't 322 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,759 do the whole thing. You pick and choose, but I don't think there's 323 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:03,519 any right or wrong decisions when you're picking the using from those courses. And 324 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:08,119 I have not played them all or even but you have played some of them, 325 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,920 yeah, but I haven't played close to all of them. Yeah. 326 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,079 Oh, maybe we'll do it for multiple times. But there's so many different 327 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:18,880 places in the United States that I want to try to do to attend to 328 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:27,160 go to. Let's see, So how about Pinehurst. Now that's another place 329 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:33,319 I'd love to make a trip coming up in the future. There's multiple courses 330 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,000 at Pinehurst. What can you share with us about going there? Oh? 331 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:41,359 Yeah, So for me, Pinehurst is a five hour drive. We go 332 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,759 down there every year with a group from our club we have about thirty six 333 00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:52,160 guys that go down. Wow. We don't always play at the resort because 334 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,440 there's so many outstanding courses down there. I'm Pinehurst Number two obviously is the 335 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:07,720 pen down there. I keep calling it the recent Crenshaw Core redesign, but 336 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:10,680 it's it's got to be close to ten years old, if not more. 337 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:18,880 It is really spectacular. I've played both the pre design pre redesign and the 338 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:26,200 post redesign. Uh And while the holes all follow the same layout, the 339 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,799 greens are in the same place as the tea's are in the same place as 340 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:36,559 the view. The periphery, the ball sand and whatether they call it, 341 00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:44,400 the scrub grass that grows in the sand is all much different than what it 342 00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:49,559 used to be, which is just traditional tree lined fairway ralph green layout. 343 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,400 Now the now Pinehurst has put in a lot of effort into redoing their other 344 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,359 courses as well. So the number four course, which was an original Donald 345 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:10,960 Ross course, was recently redesigned to think by Gil Hants that's become a spectacular 346 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:17,160 course. The first course, which was just kind of a small shortest course, 347 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:23,640 was redesigned. They just right about now they're opening their tenth course, 348 00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:30,240 and I'm not sure what it's called. It's open in time for the US 349 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:34,720 Open this year, and it's on the site of an old golf course called 350 00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:44,119 the Pit. So yeah, that's like the American golf Mecca. And then 351 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:48,559 outside, within just a few miles of the resort itself, you have Pine 352 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:55,359 Needles Midpines, both Donald Ross designs from the nineteen twenties thirties in that area. 353 00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,519 In the next town over in southern high this is Son of Tines Golf 354 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:06,200 Club or country Club, another Donald Ross design. If you're a Donald Ross 355 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:12,960 fan, you have to get to Pinehurst. Are you a fan of golf 356 00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:21,599 architecture or a student kind of? I mean I like the classic designs. 357 00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:25,440 Uh. You know, here on the East Coast we have a lot of 358 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:33,960 Tilling Hasts and William flann and Donald Ross courses, so those are intriguing to 359 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:40,519 me. Yeah, we have the Alistair McKenzie Alistair McKenzie as well. Yeah, 360 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,839 going a blank on the one right down the road from you, the 361 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:53,440 public course. Yes, I played that once when it was at the tail 362 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,359 end of a six year drought and it was in horrendous ship. It was 363 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:04,640 not fun at all. Yeah, So dried out. It was in January 364 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:11,119 after a torrential rainfalls. This was back in ninety five, ninety six. 365 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:18,759 I think, so we're going back. But yeah, Pinehurst for the golf 366 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:27,960 officionado and the aficionado of golf architecture is a must awesome. Let's take one 367 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:37,359 more break and we'll be back right after this. Jeff, what's your favorite 368 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:42,240 place in the country to travel to in the United States to go play? 369 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,200 Because in your book, you you know, I mean, you're not just 370 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:51,039 Pinehurst and we have to already talk about Pinehurst. We've talked about Bandon Dunes 371 00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:55,559 and the Robert Trent Jones Trail in Alabama. But there's other locations in the 372 00:31:55,559 --> 00:32:00,839 Midwest and in the Southwest, in you know, north Theast. There's so 373 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,039 many places to go that I'm just trying to figure out, you know, 374 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,119 what other places can we do if we do one trip a year in the 375 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,640 United States and one trip internationally because I want to go to New Zealand, 376 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,640 I want to go to Australia, what kind of trips can we do? 377 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,599 What do you what do you think? Yeah, that would be hard to 378 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,559 you know, it's it's hard to narrow it down to just one because there 379 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:32,400 are so many great trips to be done. Big Cedar Lodge in the Ozark 380 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,720 Mountains, Yeah, tell me about that. So I got a group of 381 00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:44,240 friends who are there right now actually, But that's the Tiger Woods design. 382 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:50,359 I believe it's his only public, publicly accessible course of the few that he's 383 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:57,000 designed. Paynes Valley is the name of the course. It's just it's big, 384 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,039 and it's wide, and it's hard, and it's spectacular in the big, 385 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:04,599 wide, and hard. Those are three words you don't nicearily hear describing 386 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,400 a golf course. But yeah, you don't think of the Ozark Mountains and 387 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:15,599 it is as a golf destination. But there are a number of good courses 388 00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:24,000 at the resort there. And that's the Bass Pro Shop. Johnny Morris built 389 00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:32,279 that in one of those kind of spare no expense types of uh of resorts. 390 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:42,599 There's some really interesting golf in Northern Michigan along Lake Michigan and Inland. 391 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:52,640 Right which courses stand out in your mind? In northern Missisan Bay Harbor is 392 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,519 probably the one that stands out the most just because of its uniqueness. The 393 00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:04,440 holes along Lake Michigan, the twenty seven holes there and each are very different 394 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,320 ones along the lake. Ones built in an old quarry and the other one 395 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:17,920 is uh, I think just through a wooded feature there. But then there's 396 00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:23,800 there's a couple of uh. There's several courses of a resort called Boyne Mountain. 397 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,199 Rob some Robert Trent Jones courses. There's a Donald Ross tribute course. 398 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:37,639 Very interesting stuff up there. You know, Florida take take your pick. 399 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,800 Yeah you could. If you want to do one US trip a year, 400 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,960 you could do it for the next twenty years in Florida and not go to 401 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:52,079 the place. You know, the you know, to pick the favorite though, 402 00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:59,199 and I'm a big first fan. Yeah, it's convenient. I've played 403 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:05,960 almost everything down there. Uh. There's great courses and there are good courses, 404 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000 but there's really not many bad courses down there. That's good to know. 405 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,199 It's good to know. Tell me about destination Color. Okay, Yeah, 406 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:22,719 so again along Lake Michigan, big and hard and wide. Pete Dye 407 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:30,400 will you know it's Pete Die. I'll say it is best, but you 408 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:36,639 know, the better word is maybe you know, diabolical. Seeing that course 409 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,920 and that's d y E course on on TV. So everybody knows how hard 410 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:49,679 it is. Uh in the Straits course there black Wolf Fraud, Uh, 411 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:57,840 several courses there. Wisconsin actually has two more golf destinations at sand Hills and 412 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,760 Aaron Hills. Uh just come on within the last twenty years, which I 413 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,639 have not been to. So yeah, so Wisconsin is you could spend a 414 00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:15,119 couple of weeks in Wisconsin play some awfully good course courses. Yeah, but 415 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,519 it's not necessarily you'd want to go to Chicago and try to play around there. 416 00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:22,519 You want to like move up to Michigan and in northern Michigan and has 417 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:30,559 some great courses obviously some great private clubs. Yeah see, but that's you 418 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:32,199 know, private clubs. All of a sudden, if you're not a member 419 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,039 of something, it's hard to get reciprocal, you know, and get on 420 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:40,679 these courses. It's not like flying over to the UK and playing their private 421 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:45,400 clubs where they welcome you and you can play bally Banyan and yeah, what 422 00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:51,599 up about that? Many exactly. I feel sorry for the good English golfers 423 00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:55,039 and Scottish golfers and Irish golfers who want to come over here, and I 424 00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:59,800 mean there's some good they could play. Bethley Black and there's plenty of good 425 00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:04,679 sorts. But you know back in I know, Mont or Shnecock, right, 426 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,320 one of the we talked earlier about, you, you know, discovering 427 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:15,719 the West in the United States, and you discovered the great golf in the 428 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,760 Coachella Valley of Palm Springs, Palm Desert area. Yep. Yeah, a 429 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,480 lot of good golf there. I was there. It's been many years for 430 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:30,519 that one as well. Some great courses down there, but yeah, and 431 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:34,199 you know the ones you see in the Scottsdale in Las Vegas, Palm you 432 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,519 know, Palm Springs, Scottsdale, Las Vegas. Yeah, and he's got 433 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:39,480 a lot of great golf something to do during the day in Las Vegas. 434 00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:45,039 So yeah, take your clubs and play some great golf there. A short 435 00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:51,360 drive back towards the east from Las Vegas is Mesquite, where there are some 436 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:57,079 spectacular courses. Have you ever been down to San Diego I have Tory Pines. 437 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:01,559 I have not. But when the weather here for December through March is 438 00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:07,639 awful, that should be that should be on my bucket list next or yes, 439 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,119 we're your next book. Yeah, yeah, awesome Again. The book 440 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:16,639 is called The Golf Bucket List one hundred Ideas for Enjoying the Great Game of 441 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,760 Golf by Jeff Thorson. Jeff, thank you so much for your time today. 442 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:28,119 I enjoyed the book and enjoyed the lessons that I've learned from doing it 443 00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,639 and helping to build my own list. Oh well, good, Yeah, 444 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,400 let me get you posted on your where you're off to next? But your 445 00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:42,159 trips here that you've got plans sound great? Oh? I hope you are 446 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,679 as inspired as I am. What I take away from that conversation is that 447 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,639 golf is about experiences. Whether it's getting a hole in one, which I 448 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:55,000 did in Las Vegas with buddies in two thousand and nine, or sinking a 449 00:38:55,119 --> 00:39:00,559 sixty foot putt, which is etched into my mind from our Golf Smart adventure 450 00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:04,400 to Prague, or as I mentioned, walking up to a tea box that 451 00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:10,119 is surrounded by grandstands like we also did with Golf Smarter Listeners at TPC Scottsdale, 452 00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:15,039 or the winds at Bandon Dune's or the pot belly pig that greeted us 453 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:21,199 each week on the fourth hole at Adobe Creek. What makes golf unique compared 454 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:27,079 to most other sports. It's all about the experiences we have when we're on 455 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,519 the course. Now, I marvel at my friends who can recall almost every 456 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:37,079 hole we've ever played. I can't do that, but I still want the 457 00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:44,639 opportunity to experience the thrill, the beauty, the frustration and the joy that 458 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,800 only golf can offer. So why don't you join me and my wife this 459 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,800 coming September in Portugal to create our own experiences together. We're going to be 460 00:39:53,880 --> 00:40:00,760 playing in Villemorra, which moosts five exceptional golf courses that were built and designed 461 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,840 for those with exquisite taste who are eager to do something different. We start 462 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,920 our sightseeing tour in Lisbon, but then take a short bus ride to Villemora, 463 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,800 which has beautiful sandy beaches, fine dining, chic bars, and more 464 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:22,639 so the views are fantastic. You heard Jeff talk earlier about going with thirty 465 00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:27,599 six guys on his annual trip to Pinehurst. But here's the great part of 466 00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:31,920 our trip. We're limiting the size of the group to six couples, so 467 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,760 that could mean as many as eleven or as little as six golfers, quite 468 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:43,239 manageable since my wife, Joanne is not a golfer, which is why I 469 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,159 said as many as eleven golfers for twelve people. But golf isn't required on 470 00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:51,920 this journey, so you too can bring a non playing partner to take in 471 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,960 the sites, sun, exploration and relaxation while we're on the golf course. 472 00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:02,280 We're partnering with t MII Golf Travel Company to handle all the logistics so that 473 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,480 twice each year you and I can check off some of our own golf bucket 474 00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:12,039 list items. This is a nine day trip that includes three rounds of golf, 475 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,159 walking tours, wine tasting, and a boat trip. Again, this 476 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:21,920 is a couple's excursion. Non golfers will experience an optional spa visit, sightseeing 477 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,159 and shopportunities. If you'd prefer, you can play golf every day while we're 478 00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:31,079 in Phillemora. The trip is scheduled for September fifth through the thirteenth, twenty 479 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:36,639 twenty four, So clear your calendar and let's do this. To get all 480 00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:43,760 the information pricing and download the detailed pdf, please visit TMI goolf dot com 481 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,440 slash golf Smarter. If you have any questions, you can write to me 482 00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:52,639 directly. I want to thank this week's golf Smarter Ambassador Edward Appt, who 483 00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:55,320 plays at Stewart Creek golf Course in Canmore, Alberta, Canada. Now I 484 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,360 looked up the course and my goodness, is that abuse full country that surrounds 485 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:06,199 the golf course and the photos from around the course also show visits by both 486 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:12,880 black bears and moose okay that I want to see. Would love to play 487 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,559 up there with you someday, Edward, Thanks for sharing. As our newest 488 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:21,440 Golf Smarter Ambassador, Edward took advantage of getting a free copy of Tony Manzoni's 489 00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:24,559 video of the Lost Fundamental. When you request to do an episode intro, 490 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:31,199 you'll receive a choice from three free gifts that includes the private link to Tony's 491 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:37,440 video of the Lost Fundamental, a glove and glove storage compartment from redroostergolf dot 492 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:43,000 com, the best online glove subscription service, or a box of premium flight 493 00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:47,199 golf tees a tee above all. 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