A A A A A Hey everyone, thanks so much for joining us for
this special live stream Q and A episode of dog Man Encounters. You know,
earlier this week, I was thinking to myself, here, I am
about five hundred episodes in and I still haven't an aired I've never aired a
Q and A episode of the show. It seems like when I've been airing
these live stream episodes, a bunch of questions pop up that really aren't targeted
at the guest. They're more general questions about dogmen that are being asked.
So I thought, you know what, but maybe I should just air that
live stream Q and A show and answer some of those questions. Seems like
there's no lack of questions popping up when we do this, so that's why
we're going to air tonight's show. But having said that, I've got some
special guests on lined up to answer your questions to dog mean researchers with pretty
darn impressive credentials when it comes to dog men, of course, in talking
about Paul Chaffin from the Kentucky Dogman Project and Mike cal Antonio from A Long
Island Bigfoot. Now don't let that name of his YouTube channel for you Long
Island Bigfoot. Don't think for a second that all he's researched are sasquatch,
because yeah, that couldn't be further from the truth. And as far as
Paul Chaffin goes this man, when he heads out to try and collect evidence
on these guys, it seems like almost every time he goes out he has
success. So yeah, like I said, both these guys have got credentials
a mile long. But having said that, let's bring them in here now.
Mike and Paul, thanks so much for joining us. Good to be
here, Vic. Oh, I good to see you. Vic. It's
great to see you too. Speaking of seeing you, Mike, Paul,
what's going on? Why are you so cryptic? You're not even showing what
you look like? So dark out here, man, I got to keep
it that way so that you know. Mike Paul's kind of on the secretive
side. I don't know what it is about him, but I don't know
something about him. Yeah, it must be here. I don't know where
he gets it from. Yeah, it makes me wonder too. That's right.
Well, you both have been on the show more than once each but
I'm sure there are people listening tonight, who have never caught any of those
episodes. So why don't you guys tell us about yourselves. Paul, please
go first. Well, I'm from eastern Kentucky and around pat County, riding
the peak right on the border of West Virginia. I grew up there until
they shut the coal industry down. I moved to central Kentucky where I live
now. I got three kids, one on the way, I got three
daughters, got a little boy on the way. Now. Of course,
you know, I had an encounter when I was young, fifteen years old,
was something I can't explain. Upro out walking came in and my life
has never been the same. So, yeah, I'm a I'm just a
hillbilly. I'm just an outdoorsman. I love being outdoors. I'd be doing
this if none of this ever existed in the Internet or not, I still
be doing what I'm doing. Some of the people that are in this they
kind of seem like they're almost posers. But when it comes to Paul and
Mike, both of these guys they not only talk the talk, but they
walk the walk as well. Both really impressive they are. Mike, what
can you tell us about yourself in a nutshell. I I was in the
uh. You know, I had done everything under the sun. I had
went to you know, community college, I had tried every trade under the
sun. You know, one day I just went down to the local recruiting
office for the army with a friend and bing bang boom. Before you know
it, they were like, well, what are you doing? That's so
great? And I said nothing. So I joined two and a half year
contract and I extended to go to Afghanistan. And anyway, about four years
went by and a lot of trauma and sued from that, so I started
to go to the VA hospital. Eventually I came back and I dove into
addiction and it just wasn't working right. When does it ever work right?
So I had to get find my way away from that and then you know,
get some healing from my PTSD. So the way I kind of went
at it was like you know, listening to medical advice, but also like
these spiritual type things like between meditation, I got, I learned and got
certified in reiki, yoga, just all these things that I would never go
you know, anywhere near really the former me. I guess I was kind
of reinventing myself. And while I was doing that, it was taking about
five years, and I was just hiking in the woods, just you know,
just going about my business. And I guess kind of like how everybody's
you know, start, well not maybe not everybody, but I, you
know, slammed smack dab into a sasquatch that wasn't supposed to be there,
right, wasn't supposed to And uh that set me on. Ah, I
guess, rabbit hole dive and owng that rabbit hole comes these dog men and
they are there, and they're very present. I was ignorant to it at
first until like you know, they they put themselves in a nutshell, They
put themselves in my way to the point where I could not ignore their you
know, their existence. For those of you who know the story, it
was it was getting dark one night, I mean, do you want me
to dive into that? Or sure? By all means? Well, all
right. So I was at this place and uh, it's kind of close
to my house and it's on the edge of suburbia, and it's it's kind
of on these hospital grounds, but on the on the far far outskirts,
it's this big university slash hospital. Uh, big, big grounds, and
there's these a lot of unused areas woods, and found this cool spot and
it's perfect. It's great back there, a lot, there's just a lot
of room to work with. And one day I just I knew I was
dealing with dog man, but I didn't. You know, you could kind
of talk yourself out of it a little bit. But I was working my
way down this There was this road, this long private road that you take
all the way into the back to get to where I was. I had
found it. Originally, I would have never found this back park A lot
back here, this isolated there, I would have never found it. But
one day I was just doing what I do. I don't necessarily always walk
trails because trails, you know, aren't really where you're gonna find things.
So I go to places that don't have trails and just pave my own way.
So that's what I was doing one day, and that's how I found
this place in the back. I hiked about two three miles through these woods
and I found this place back there. So then I started learning how to
drive back there. So on this particular occasion, I was trying to make
my way down because it got dark I was trying to make my way to
the street because all I could see in the pitch black darkness was, you
know, a street light. So it had this It's hard to explain,
but it's like an alley of these, you know, it's just grass with
these overhanging trees on both sides, and they're very suffocating like they the the
way to make your way through is very very narrow, like very very narrow,
And as I got to the edge towards the end, I kind of
started to let my guard down, and as I did that, I got
bluff charged by these two. I say bluff charge because I think the word
attack is used too loosely. I'm still standing. These things were monstrous.
It looked like an alligator head, like it could have swallowed it clamped open.
I could have swallowed my head if I won't if I wanted to.
So in a nutshell, I don't want to use the wor attacked. But
it was the scariest thing I've ever experienced in my life. But I'm still
standing today. So long story short, I backpedaled my way out of there
and now I'm now I'm in the street, and they they were seeded back
into the tree line, and I could see all these eyeshine and as I'm
trying to go down that street and make my way long way round to my
vehicle, I can see them making these a military guy, they're tactical bounds.
There they were, they were making tactical movements and you could see them.
You could see the eyes and then they were closed and then like but
they were making these leaps and bounds like in in tactical formations and following me
and staying ahead of me, and like it was really scary. It was
really scary. It was It was a lot of things that I wasn't processing
at the time. I was just literally trying to make the only thing you
could do is make the best decision in the moment that you think might work
out for you. I have ideally you want to make it home, right.
But even though I just had this face to face, like I mean,
spitting in my face type encounter, I was still just, you know,
just as scared of when they were as when they were, you know,
thirty forty yards off and just seeing eyeshine. After that, I didn't
go back there for a long time, I mean a long time, and
I think we talked about this fit, but I didn't go back there for
a long time, and it ruined a lot for me. It ruined a
lot for me for quite a while. I was having a lot of bad
experiences with them. The whole follow you home thing is accurate, at least
for me. It was was getting bad information, things to do and things
you know how to how to make amends with them, and lots of different
things. And you know what it boiled down to for me was to to
have a healthy respect, I had to bury the fear. I didn't want
to get rid of the fear completely right, because complaced on setill get you
killed. And I don't want to be ignorant, but I had to let
go of that, that complete and utter fear of them because I was scared
to open my door in my house. I was scared to throw my trash
away. I was just throwing trash out the door, like I was not
going anywhere. I wasn't going. I would not leave my house because I
was afraid that right outside my door was a dog man all the time,
all the time. And that's it's not a reality, right, And I
had to get over the emotional part in order to see the emotional part,
the trauma part, in order to see that if they wanted me so badly
hurt, then it would already happen. So I had to It was not
an easy pill to swallow and an easy thing to accept, but I had
to look at that from from a you know, from an outside perspective and
get out of the emotional side of things and realize, Okay, this isn't
just a straight monster, it's not a straight killing machine. It's got logic.
It's like serious, serious logic. Can I say for sure what it
was thinking. No, but I'm thinking it knew better than that. I
think it knew if it took me out that people would come looking. That's
one of the most frightening things about these guys, not just how they look,
but if you have an encounter with one of these guys, it's pretty
evident that they've got quite a bit of intiughegends, and that just makes it
that much worse, well worse in some waysn't better than others, but when
you know that they've got the implements of destruction they have and uh with that's
just so amazing, so impressive. That makes them awfully formidable. It really
does. Paul. Since you came on last, you've had some new experiences.
What can you tell us about them? Well, I've I mean just
listening to him like it, uh, I mean I just literally relived everything,
you know, every encounter that I've had, you know, like I
just relived it and uh yeah, it's uh I've a yeah. I took
a guy out last November. I had a guy come down from Indiana.
He wanted to go out, and you know, and that's another thing,
like he I mean, to have an encounter. It just it's called an
encounter, but not none are the same. Like, you know, emotionally,
it's going to affect you different depending on how it went, you know,
what happened and all that. But I hear people all the time talking
about they want to have an encounter, and what they really mean is they
want to have a controlled encounter. You know, they think, you know,
Patty, they want to have a Patterson again. They want to see
a dog man wave look over his shoulder and wave as it walks off or
whatever. But that's just not the case. You know, every encounter I've
had, I've been you know, I've been knee deep in before I realized
I was even having an encounter, you know, and it's too late.
You can't run. You think you know what you'll do in that situation,
and you just really don't, you know, you just everything goes out the
window. So I mean, yeah, I took a guy out last November.
He come down and we went down to the Kentucky River. I took
him into an area that you know, I had never been in before,
but I had been down to the river there, but we went to the
top of the mountain where I had never been. And when we got up
there, I caught I kept catching movement out the corner of my eye,
and uh, I told him, I said, I just seen, I
said I. I told him, I said, I seen something right there,
I said, and I'm pretty sure there's a dog man sitting right there
at the end of that dog at the end of that log, looking at
us. And sure enough, you know, I couldn't see it. It
was just a little bit. You know, I wear glasses and I didn't
have them on that day, but I knew it was right there. I
had seen the movement. And he recorded, you know, I got him.
He's sitting in front of me. Recording with his phone and with my
phone recording. I can see on his phone. I can see it on
his phone too, you know, like it was plain as day. Yeah,
we got we got some really good footage that day, and uh we
we come up on some some really good tree structures and like dens like they
had, I mean intelligent design too. You know, they had piled sticks
up like a lean to and had sticks holding them up like it was uh
not I can't say that dog Man did that for sure, but I've never
seen anything else. It's in the area, you know, and uh,
I've had bluff charges and I've been grould at down there all on camera and
video, you know. So I've just uh every time I go out,
you know, I usually push my luck and go a little bit further than
I probably should. But that's why I'm there. So you know, I'm
not I don't regret it, and I'm prepared to deal with whatever happens.
I never going on, you know, I'm always armed for whatever good it'll
do. But yeah, uh my encounter pretty much the same as his,
you know, like it just it's emotionally, it just wrecks you for your
life, you know, like it's like I said before, every kid that's
been born I've had that's been in the back of my mind, you know.
So uh yeah, it's it's it's traumatic, especially as a young as
a young man, you know, like because I love the deer hunt,
I love being outdoors. That was my thing, Like I really love deer
hunting, and it damaged me for about three or four months, you know,
and I just had to get over And then, you know where I'm
from, you mentioned this stuff, you get laughed at. I don't care.
I don't care. If it's somebody that's had an encounter before, they
won't talk about it. I no laugh at you, you know, like
they just joined the crowd. I'm more of an outspoken person. I don't
care to talk about it. I don't care how people you me or how
they feel. I don't care. I'll talk about it amongst a bunch of
strangers. I don't care. I can relate because where I live at the
I'm in the suburbs, and basically everything is haunted. Every bump in the
night is people just say something's haunted. It's a ghost, it's a spirit,
it's the legend and the spirit of this and this and this and this
and this. Right, cryptids aren't really a thing that people talk about or
whatever. So you know, for me to talk about you know how I'm
in the suburbs and there was a dog man on the neighbor's roof, but
nobody else saw it but me, it sounds nuts, you know what I
mean. So it's a tough thing to I get what you're saying. It's
tough, and it's tough. Well, the fact both of you guys have
had the encounters that you had, but you still go back into the woods.
I mean that takes a lot of sin to do that. Ninety nine
point nine percent of the population, if they had just one of the experiences
you guys have had, they'd never go back in. So yeah, that
really that, in my opinion, that sets you above and beyond it.
And you know, it ain't been like to no avail either because the things
that I've learned in the last like my views on this subject in the last
two years have went. I mean, it's it's insane like because the things
I believe right now. Two years ago I was laughing at people, you
know for talking about that, not laughing at them, but you know,
I just thought that it was that WU factor. I just wasn't into it.
I didn't you know, or and you know, portals and dimensions and
all that stuff. I just wasn't feeling that. I've seen them blink their
eyes. They have little ones, so they breathed. I've seen scat so
they hunt, you know, they they I just I don't know, I
don't it just it's it's all very strange. Like with every answer you get
comes ten more questions. And I mean that like it's uh, it just
keeps getting deeper and deeper and deeper, and uh leads you. It leads
you in a way that you don't want to go. And a lot of
researchers won't go there. They want to keep it flesh and blood. And
I understand that, I really do, because most people will look at I
mean, even keeping it flesh and blood, you're gonna get laughed at.
So you know, you start talking about portals and orbs and stuff, and
people just you lose them, you know. So, But yeah, unfortunately
it is a part of it. I can't deny. But uh, yeah,
sorry about that. Go ahead, No, you're fine. Isn't it
funny how your views on these guys changes how your views change over time the
more you find out about them. Mm hm, it is. I mean
it's not to day. My views right now are literally different than what they
were because the dog man, and I do believe there are flesh and blood
dog man out here, and because I've seen one, you know, I
know they're real. The thing I seen was as real as looking at him
right now, you know, like it's it was there. Well, you
know, Paul, the first time I looked, the first time I had
seen the sasquatch, and the first time I saw a door man, they
were both in the flesh. So if that was my first and on me
and my last experience, that's what I would have stopped that too, probably,
And I think that's where a lot of people get I'm stuck, right
because they get that one thing and then they don't get any follow up for
whatever reason they don't. They don't get much more. I don't know why,
you know, I can't. I can guess to me, but I
can't say for sure, you know, but you know, so that's where
they get stuck. I think a lot of people in that flesh and blood,
but I do. I'm right there with you. It's in the ever
evolving rabbit hole of you know, high strangeness. And you know, if
you're really following the truth, I mean, if you're really really following it,
you know, it gets weird like that, like you're saying, does
yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ignore evidence just because
they don't line up with my previous beliefs. You know, I don't have
a That's why I'm able to spot things in pictures and videos because I don't
have a preconceived notion of what these things look like. I would love to
know. I would like to think that these creatures are smart enough and have
the self awareness to know that their ears give them away, you know,
or you know, I mean, I just the self awareness and the uh,
the just the abilities that they have are off the chart, like they
really are. And they will move when your backs time. You know,
they're not gonna they know nothing to move when you're looking at them. So
you let if you take a female with you and let her record over her
shelter, she will, I'm telling you, you will get the best footage
that you've ever that you've ever got. I mean, that's been it's been
my experience, and like I said, I've been in a couple of situations
where I'm glad I didn't have anybody with me because I don't know what I
would have done. But that bluff charge was really uh. I mean,
you know, it sent my heart into my throat for sure, it was.
It was really out I'm sure it was. And what you just said
about their abilities being off the charts that made me think about something. If
I had a nickel for every time I heard someone talk about taking guns out
into the woods to protect yourself from these guys or even from sasquatch, give
me a break. If these guys wanted to wipe you off the map,
it doesn't matter how big of a gun you have, they could easily take
you out without you getting off a single shot. So yeah, people have
laughed at me, made fun of the fact that I go into the woods
and I walked miles unarmed without anyone else with me, and they say how
crazy I am for doing that. I'm no crazier for heading deep into the
woods without a gun than someone who thinks that they're ten millimeter or if they
carry see a twelve gage into the woods. If they think that's going to
protect them anymore than harsh language is gonna protect me. They're crazy, they're
misled, because, like I said, these guys, if they want to
take you out, it doesn't matter what you bring with you. They can
do it at will. How many times have we heard about hunters being found
dead with arms pulled off or their chests slashed open and circle exactly and not
even a single round being fired. So yeah, I mean that just highlights
the fact that these guys, if they want to get you, they're gonna
get you. You're a got But as you two know, they're not wired.
And I think, as you said earlier, Mike, these guys are
not wired to kill you on site. Yeah, you do have some dangerous
examples who are dangerous and will slaughter you to get the chance, but that's
definitely the exception and not the norm. So yeah, just I take a
big exception to these people who say you're crazy if you go into a woods
where there might be a dog men or even a sasquatch unarmed, because it
doesn't make a difference. I believe they will provide a warning. They will
in my in every case I've had, they will provide a warning, whether
it's a growl, whether it's throwing something, whether it's you know, stomping
around breaking stuff, like, they will provide a warning to you. And
if you don't listen and back out, and you know, God only God
only knows what will happen to you. You know, I carry a gun
with me, not for those for that reason. I carry for other reasons,
mountain lines, whatever. Yeah, and you know it, maybe it
is a false sense of security, but it makes me feel better, like
a little kid with a blanket, you know, or whatever. It Uh,
it provides me some kind of well, it adds to my bravery,
I guess, and it allows me to, you know, to go go
a little bit further, I guess than I normally would. I carry an
air horn people, people like, what do you carry? I carry?
I carry an air onorn. If if something happens to me and I go
down and I want, you know, that's as far as I go,
really, as if I can't yell, I want, you know, a
bear or whatever, I blow the airhorn, you know, but that's about
as much as I carry now, and I don't I'm with Vicar on it,
like, as far as I feel like my my my interactions are far
far more better because I do think they know what guns are, you know,
take her or leave it. I don't think they do much good.
And if you want to carry one, absolutely now here on the island.
I don't have any big predators. We don't have mountain lions, we don't
have coyote, wolves, bears. When I go up into the mountains,
it's a different story right now, that's a whole, totally different story.
I come across bear in the past two years, I've come across bear more
than I have in my whole entire life. I didn't even know what to
do. I had no idea what to do with a black bear, like
I but I've encountered about I don't know, more than one hand I can
count, but less than two hands probably, and somewhere between five and ten
times I bumped into a black bear in the past two years, and right
in the catskills. I mean, I'm not talking, I'm not even talking
far from people's homes and stuff. You know, most of the time,
I'm not even far from my car, and like so stuff can just happen,
you know. But I mean I agree with that. If they make
if they make the decision to take you out then not a task force can't
stop. I mean, right right, no doubt. You know you're you're
going out. You know it's uh, I mean the bluff charge that happened
to me happened so fast. I mean it was yeah. I mean,
I couldn't have done nothing, and I had. I had a shotgun.
I was shooting three inch slug Max. Do that now, that'll blow up
your fist and anything. And uh, it would have been a real last
resort for me too, you know, I said, vig nose, I
tried to climb that tree and put big thorns in my head and stuff,
you know, like it was a I pulled a blade thinking back, how
it was ridiculous that was thinking like I you know, it was on my
waist and I just pulled it out and flipped it open, and you know,
just frantically like and I didn't even have like looking back, I oh,
you know I was and mind Joe, I'm in the last profession was
a you know, uh, combat soldier, like I mean, and I'm
like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing, you know what I
mean, Like I'm prepared to do battle with man, but what is this
thing? And I mean, like, like you said, I work in
the coal mines for years, so I may I made peace with death long
ago in my life, you know, like I'm not. Yeah, none
of us are getting out alive anyway, so you know I made peace with
it. Do I want to go not no violent death like that? No
I don't. But you know, I've just always pushed the limits, whether
it's driving my I got a fast car, dirtbox, boilers, just whatever
I do. I'm uh, you know, I'm extreme, I guess yeah,
and adrenaline junkie and ye're running into these guys will definitely get that flowing.
Well, I've got the first question for you. I'm going to throw
this one at you, Mike. It is from Sasquatch Confessions, and they
want to know, is anyone ever seen a dog men come out of a
portal? No? I don't. I've seen a dog man come out of
a portal. I think he's asking if you know if anyone has ever seen
a dog and come out of a portal? Oh? Most likely. I
mean, now, so here's my thing, right, I've seen something go
into one. It was a large very similar to what Vic Savatar is there.
It ran across. Uh. I was on one ridge and there was
another ridge and it was just getting dark and something tall, huge and dark.
Of course I go right to Sasquatch. But what was it? I
don't know, but it was running. It went so fast that I had
my camera out already and I couldn't you know, I couldn't do this to
keep up with it. And it did the best thing. I could describe
it as remember your old old TV and where you had to walk up to
it and push the button, you know what I mean, and the TV
would turn off, and when the TV when the screen would implode on itself
kind of and that that big slit at the end it would do like that
big white slit before the whole screen turned off. It was like this thing
ran full speed and this big white flash and then this big like slit huge,
I mean, you know, on a grand scale, it was probably
twenty yards tall. I don't know. And that was it. It was
just regular you know, twilight. Again, that's as close as I can
get to you for a personal experience, but I don't I'm not sure,
brother. Yeah, they have reported. I was spoken with people who have
credible eyewitnesses who've told me about seeing that. So yeah, apparently it does
happen. Paul, I've got a question for you from Vanessa. She wants
to know our dogm in hybrids are natural creatures. Well, I mean,
this is something that I'm uh, I'm going back and forth with myself,
like I believe that they are, Ah, my personal views. I don't
know this to be a factor, and it's just my personal opinion based on
the evidence and things I've seen and gathered. I believe they are somewhere down
the line before DNA has been mixed, you know, whether it was with
man and wolf or with whatever you know, Uh, somewhere down the line,
you know that that has happened. I believe. I don't think these
are a natural creature that that God or the Creator put on the earth or
whatever. I think they were made, uh, and I think they are
still here to this day there. I don't know whether they're they breed and
have offspring offspring, or someone or something is still making them. I don't
know, but they are flesh and blood foreshir dog and still run around,
and a lot of them too, and the Daniel boones eat up with them.
So uh, and and I don't know. Uh, I don't like
the ones that can cloak or they can do whatever that they is that they
do. I don't know if they're deceased or if they're cloaked or you know,
I don't know what what they are, but I just know they're there.
And the clearer your video is that you're recording them with, the better
you can see the the the blurriness that they call in the background, you
know, the distortion they calls. You know, it's uh, it's all
very strange, you know. And I've never seen a I've never seen I've
seen portals what I think is portals that, but I've never seen them come
in or or you know, come out and want to go in one.
They definitely do a lot of things that are off hard to explain away by
them being flesh and blood creatures. So yeah, I get what you're saying.
I've got a lot of videos of these dog men and they have orbs
around them all the time, and you can tell their orbs are not bugs
because they like the leaves up as they go by the you know, whatever
these little orbs are, and they'll go in the mouth and come out you
know whatever, or they'll travel from one dog man to another like it's it's
really strange. It is like and it's hard for me to show to show
anybody if you're not here with me, you know, and me be able
to show you because you know Facebook, Facebook's image processors. You know,
it's garbage, like it destroys the quality of everything. M hm, Yes
it does, Mike. I've got a question for you from UFO Droom guy
and he wants to know do the dog men know we can see their eyes
shine? Uh? I'd say so, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd
say so, yeah, yeah, it does sound like the Yeah, I
think so. Paul's got a question for you from Yeppy Ben Joe, and
their question is do they smell have a strong scent? I have? I
you know, I have smelled like a wet dog smell or a wet deer
smell when they're when their presence are, when they're near, you can't smell.
They do have an odor? Uh you know, some do, some
don't, I would imagine, but yeah, I don't know if they're able
to wet off pheromones or I know that they can admit fear into the air.
Now I know that for a fact. You know, before I ever
seen one, the first encounter I had, it put fear into me,
Like you know, there was primal down like life and death, primal fear,
and it terrified me before I ever laid eyes on it. I don't
know, I couldn't explain it to you, but uh, that fear hit
me. And then I realized the forest was dead quiet, you know.
And then it all kind of happened in you know, in steps, like
the fear hit me. Then I realized the forest was quiet, and then
I started hearing and seeing something coming around the logging road. So I mean,
yeah, they're able to they have they have a from what I've experienced,
they have a normal a wet dog smell or like a wet deer.
I don't know if you ever killed a deer before, you know, in
the morning you can smell the fir and stuff. So I mean that's the
smell that I've encountered. Mike. I've got a question for you from half
from twenty three, and they want to know, is it a good idea
to hunt dog men even though they obviously haven't harmed anyone yet. It's a
good question. I don't know you know, I don't know I've come I'm
probably I'm probably on the other side of the flip, the other side of
the coin. I come at everything from like, I've done the war thing,
I've done the gun carrying thing, so I've put everything down and I
try to come at everything from an understanding standpoint, you know, without weapons,
without any kind of aggression, just straight respect and things to that effect.
So my answer would be, is probably a bad idea. I mean,
in general, I wouldn't want to wage war with these things, not
even a little bit, not even a little bit after I've seen what I've
seen. You know, you I don't even know what you'd need to And
that's just if you're tracking one, then you know where one is. And
for anybody who knows, you know when you see one. The best way
I can describe it, you remember the scene in Jurassic Park when the guys
looking at the velociraptor. All of a sudden he sees the velociraptor in front
of him, and next thing, you know, these other two velociraptors pop
up next to him, And that's pretty much how it was. Like,
if you see one, you can pretty much guarantee you at least one or
two more SEU. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if that helps,
but that does help. That's a good the answer, Paul, I've got
a question for you from UFO Droom guy. He wants to know do you
think dog men need something to sleep in or under as they are apex predators?
I do. I think they I have found, uh, I know
where a place is in the Daniel Boone that I wouldn't go back in.
But it's a it's a birdle. There's a rock that's about probably thirty feet
high, so it's a like a palace. It's a rock wall, you
know, that runs around the side of a ridge and it's got a crack
in if it's about three or four foot wide, and it runs the length
from the ground all the way to the top, and it goes way back
in there and then it turns left. You can't see, you know.
But there's dog tracks, large dog tracks everywhere coming in and out, I
mean so many that you can't discern what's coming and going, you know.
So and I have found, you know, structures on the ground and things
like that. So yeah, I don't know whether they use them for breeding.
Purposes or to get out of the weather or to sleep or whatever they
use them for. But now I do know they do have places that they
go, you know. And and yeah, I believe they do have places
to escape bad weather and stuff. It really makes you wonder how much they're
affected by bad weather. With those codes and being as big and powerful as
they are, it makes you wonder, like, for example, during a
blizzard, do they get cold. It just really makes you wonder. Even
like he was talking about earlier about hunting one or whatever, like I think
even if even if you were able to put one down, I don't think
you would ever get it out of the woods, you know, I don't.
I don't think with a swat team, I don't think you can get
it out of the woods. You know. I My dog is smart enough
to read people when they come to my house, so I would I would
think that these creatures can tell your intent when you're in their area. You
know, if you're in there to cause harms, they're going to be able
to read that on you. I do believe that. I believe they know
what you're there for. They know that you're there before you do. And
yeah, your intentions Unfortunately Mike, I've got a question for you from Gabriel
Hawkins, and Gabriel wants to know what if I want to go out and
try to find one. Uh oh, you're muted, okay, So I
mean maybe it'd be surprised, maybe you and at how close they are to
us. You know, that's been one of my biggest things that shocked me,
and then I decided to, you know, show people, and it's
been a hard task, right to show suburban sasquatch and suburban dog Man.
Sometimes people don't want to believe it. Sometimes people don't you know, whatever,
it's it's very uncomfortable for them or whatever. But my suggestion would be
to do it. If you do want to start doing it, do it
humbly. You know. My approach is just kind of hey, universe,
hey Forrest, Hey, everything out here. I'm your humble student. You
know, I'm here on your terms, like, you know, just whatever
you want to give me, you want to give me, like I don't.
I don't push anything. Like Paul is saying earlier, there's a little
bit of resistance. If there's a little bit of resistance or some kind of
like whatever feels like, you know, a graul or a grunt or whatever
that if if something in you, because you'll know. And I know it
sounds very Yoda like to be like, oh, you'll know, And somebody
said it to me when I started to like you'll know when something's going on,
and I'm like, all right, thanks for the help, you know,
but it's true. You do you kind of if you're tapped in and
like you make yourself one with the forest, if you will, you'll kind
of you'll know what's going on and when it's time to go or when it's
time to pull back or buddy system. I guess I'm I'm a little I'm
a little whacky. I go by myself all the time. But it's hard
to find people to go, you know, it really is. It's it's
tough to find people that want to go through this kind of stuff. So
I just I just do it, you know, I just do it.
But I've never it's been a while for me though, that since I found
something to that was very important, feel like it's a really important thing.
I feel like I have a lot of worth again, Like it's it's it's
interesting to me like I have uh, it's I have a passion again,
you know, and it's it's uh, it's dangerous. So I'm not going
to front it's dangerous. Yeah, if you go if you go out there
with air pods in your ear and you out there stumbling around stuff, I
mean and you miss a warning or something, then yeah, I mean you
better be in tune with nature when you go out there. That's always a
good idea. I've got a question from dude from Texas. Hey, dude,
for both of you, I'm going to ask you this question first,
Paul, then I'm going to have you take a shot at their mic.
The question is, do you believe these creatures migrate or use tunnel systems,
caves, et cetera. I believe. I believe the state of Kentucky is
granted limestone caves overhangs from one end to the other of the Daniel Blue National
Force is nothing but just just granted. You know, it's you would have
to see it to really understand how rugged it really is. And I would
imagine that it runs well. I mean, I was a rock miner underground
for a long time. There's three seams of limestone that run from Michigan all
the way to Mississippi. You know, all the way like from it goes
all the way down to a mile underground. So I mean, is it
possible. I mean yeah, But I think I think they stick to an
area. I don't think they migrate. I mean, I could be wrong
about that. It's just my opinion. I think that they do have places
that they go. I've seen I've seen places that look like, you know,
a permanent residence, you know, like that's where if I was a
dog man, I would stay there for sure. So I mean in this
way off the beaten trail to it would, yeah, it would. I
would never go back in there, Like that place I was talking about earlier,
that that cracking that rock, I would never go back in there.
You know, I don't care how many people with me. Good idea.
How about you, Mike, what's your take on that? I had this
discussion today. Oddly enough, it's I don't think they migrated either. Do
they use tunnel systems? Possibly? Probably? You know the matt like he
was mentioning Mammoth caves is probably the biggest. I think it's the biggest cave
system in the US. Right, we only know, and these guys are
so strong, I don't know. I can't wrap my head around how to
explain the strength of these guys and saspatihort dog man, so they couldn't take
a boulder that would take you know, twenty men to move and just slide
it in front of something or slide it over a hole if they felt like
it. Right. But like you were saying, I don't think they migrated
either. I think they find a place they like and that's where they stay
in that that's where it gets dangerous because if you're the one that stumbles into
that place, now they got to keep their eye on you, right,
because you know where they're at. They don't want to give it up,
right, They don't want to if you do bring other people back in,
if you bring in a team, they got, you know, things to
this effect. I think they're very very intelligent and if you stumble into their
area and now they have to keep an eye on you to see if their
home is safe, you know what I mean, which I'm sure entails following
you, following you home and keeping a close eye on you, probably more
often than you'd like it to be. Again, that's just kind of my
take on it, but it seems it seems to be across the board quite
a bit with other people I've spoken to as well. If most people knew
how often they're followed by these guys and monitored, they probably lose their launch.
Pull This question from baby Girl, I think is directed to you from
what you said about feeling sick. She wants to know, did you get
a sick feeling when you had all of your encounters. I didn't really feel
sick, like a physical sick. It just was a it was I mean,
fear, like I said before, you know, and the encounters I've
had on your show, like you know, it's like walking up on a
rattlesnake and being too close but you know, and realizing that it's right there.
You know, your knees get weak, and it's even more intense than
that, you know, having an encounter with one of these things. It's
a And I don't think it's something that you see it and then feel it.
I think it's something they admit somehow. I don't know how. It's
hard to explain. I mean, I believe there's there's what's it called infrasound
and all that, But whatever happened to me was it was. It was
off the charts, it was just fear, like I can't I've never experienced
it before that or since then. You know, even that bluff charge,
in that growl and all that stuff like it, whatever that was in that
first encounter, I had it. And looking back right now, had it
not done that at the pace I was walking, in the pace it was
walking, we would have ran into each of So I don't know if it
done that to stop me, because it was not concerned that I was there
at all. It never even made eye contact with me or looked at me.
So I mean, but I know it knew I was there, but
it I mean, people don't realize how big eight foot is, you know
what I'm saying, eight foot, six hundred seve hundred pounds, Like you
don't really understand how big that is until you see it. Yeah, you
know, like that's it's massive, like it just it takes your breath.
And you know, I had a gun with me and shooting at it never
even crossed my mind. Never. Yeah, it's all fun and games until
something thats e feet tall is standing there steering at you, no doubt about
that. This next question is from Sasquatch Confessions. First of all, they
want to say hello to me and also to you guys. And then their
question, Mike, is are dogsmen often found in the same areas as sasquatch.
Yeah, good to see your brother sasquatch confessions. So yeah, I
don't have a perfect answer for you, right, and I don't want to
make blanket statements. But from my experience, which is all I could speak
for, right is I call them cryptid community areas. And the best way
I can describe it, I always look for analogies even when there aren't any
but the watering hole. Right in the African Safari show you might see on
TV. The zebras and the leopards and the cheetahs and the lions and the
elephants, and everything's off doing their own thing everywhere right all the time,
but they all got to come to one place. It's just the watering hole.
Now, I think that there's some areas where these cryptids all kind of
link up more so than they do other places, like you know, sasquatch
and dog men are found more and now, whether you believe it's something as
simple as a watering hole, or it's something more advanced like a portal,
or you know, whatever the case, may be. That's what I've found
is that they tend to I think they tend to come together for more of
these community areas, if you will, well said before I throw this next
question that you, Paul, I just want to put something out there so
that everyone listening knows. On the third of February, it's a Saturday,
two saturdays from now, where a Wolf Might and David Bunch are going to
be coming on for a live stream on that Saturday to answer questions about their
experiences and basically tell us what they've been up to. And with Dave,
he's going to tell us about his Delamere Forest experiences as well, So yeah,
please be sure not to miss that. All right, Paul, This
next question is from you, a food droom guy, and they want to
know, Paul, if you have a bluff charge, what should you do?
Run or hold your ground? Personally, I say hold your ground.
I don't know if you run it'll activate some predator you know instinct they have.
I don't know. I think they're highly intelligent. I agree with what
Mike said earlier. I think you're liable to turn around and run into another
one, so you're better off to just feel the situation now as it happens,
like the bluff charge that happened to me was I heard a bark from
a dog that I that I know, you know, it was way too
big to be any domestic dog. Why I would have even thought that that's
what it was, I don't know, you know, I just it's the
first thing to hit my mind. All I could picture was what one of
those slug mags would do to somebody's domestic dog. And I didn't want to
have to explain that. So my first instinct was to try to climb that
tree behind me. And the tree was like three inches four inches, you
know, like it would have never held me anyway. So you know,
after trying to do that, at every bark was closer and closer and closer,
you know, and it would have had to have come out into an
open field, you know, and come after it cleared the tree line,
it would have to come about twenty feet to me, and it come right
to the edge of the tree line and dead stop and never made another sound.
So I don't know if it had done that as a warning for me
to get out of there. I mean, that's what happened, you know,
So I would imagine it got a kick out of what had done to
me, because it really put the fear of God in me, and it
let me know that I had no idea what I was doing. Oh,
I'm sure it did enjoy it. Unfortunately, it's pretty sick, it really
is. This next question is more of a general question. It's from James
G. And he wants to know as anyone ever reported to dog me insiding
in Rhode Island. Yes, they have actually spoken with at least one eyewitness
from Rhode Island to reported to dog mean encounter. It's kind of funny.
That makes me think. I think it was like year two that I started
daring shows. There is a guy who contacted me and he was kind of
thumbing his nose in a way. He was telling me how he lived in
Rhode Island and haha, I don't have to worry about any dog mean encounters
here. And I'm thinking to myself when he did that, should I let
this guy know that I've spoken with people in Rhode Island before or not that
have had dog mean encounters. I was kind of at the crossroads. I
was like, I got a big foot encounter there to report it to me?
Once because else. Oh, I'm sorry. No, No, you're
good. I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm sorry, No,
you're fine. No, just because of how small Rhode Island is, it's
all too easy to think, Okay, yeah, there's nothing there, but
that's not the case. It's not well, I've got a question for you,
Mike and Paul. We're going to throw this at you first, though,
Mike from Darren Darren wants to know where did you guys say you were
from? Thanks me, yes, sir, you first, I'm from Long
Island, New York. So i live on the eastern end of Long Island.
Contrary to popular idealism that a lot of people think it's the city,
but we got quite a bit of woods out here. It is. It's
just you know, you're I think we have the one hundred thousand acres of
pine barrens, which is, you know, pretty much a lot of the
cryptid playground that I speak about with VIC and other shows. But yeah,
there's there's quite a bit of stuff going on out here. And then I
work my way up to the uh the Catskill Mountains in that at Roundecks and
the surrounding areas. I do as well. But I'm from Long ISND,
New York. All right, how about you, Paul, Huh, if
you've ever heard of the half of McCoy feud, that's where I'm from.
I'm from where that took place. Uh, it's I'm from Pott County,
Kentucky. It's the if you look at them, if you look at a
map and look at the state of Kentucky, it comes to a little point
on the east side. I'm from right there. And in that point,
I'm five minutes from Mate one, West Virginia, you know, and Williamson,
and you know Logan and Charleston. So yeah, I'm from right I'm
from as far east as you can go in the state of Kentucky, right
in the middle of the Appalachian Mountains. You are right up against them,
that you are. I've got more of a general question again that popped up
from Key from sixteen seventy five, and their question is are there any credible
research groups in Michigan, Thank you, Keith. And the answer is yes,
But unfortunately I don't know of any there. I guarantee you there are
ones there, but yeah, as far as being able to name one,
then yeah, I can't do that. Unfortunately. Well, this next question
is from Corey Cole. I'm gonna throw this one at you, Mike,
and Corey's question is have you ever heard of them mimicking human language sounds?
Almost always? Almost always? And that's one of my favorite reasons is to
go up to these different areas up in the mountains and things, because I
get to hear the you know, typical the typical audio that you hear about
in other people's encounters. But where that down here in the suburbs, they
mimic everything. I mean, you name it, they mimic it. And
it is just it's just the littlest bit off brand, like just the tiniest
little bit off brand, and if you're not really paying attention, you wouldn't
notice. You just wouldn't notice the difference. We have sirens that go off
for what would be like a tornado siren. In some places. We have
it for volunteer firefighters. They use that. They will communicate a lot of
times when when the big planes go over. I've heard cat fights obviously,
dogs barking, yeah, thinks to that effect. Brett Harley's reving is a
big one, you know, trying to you know, mimicing like motor bikes.
That's a big one. That's a big one. Sure would be hard
to get us hearing that. I mean where I'm from in the mountains,
I heard growing up, if you hear something call your name from the woods,
know you didn't. If you see something, no you didn't. You
know, if you hear whistling something whistling, no you didn't hear it.
You know. Just basically that's what I heard growing up. That's what I
was always told by my grandparents. And you know, if you hear something,
because I don't know what it is, I don't know if this dog
man or Bigfoot, I always lean toward it being Bigfoot. That would,
you know, mimic someone if they hear someone hollering someone's name. You know,
I don't know if they know that that's what they're doing, or if
they're just doing it because they heard it somewhere, or but yeah, they
I've heard lots of stories of in the Appalachian Mountains of things hollering for while
you're out in the middle of nowhere in the woods. You know, up
on the mountain, you'll hear something all of your name, or you'll hear
something or help or whatever. You know, you just you didn't hear it
basically, So, like I said, that'd be awfully hard to get used
to. It really would. Got a general question from Josie Meine Kuhn,
and her question is they're encounters of dog mean experiences here in New Zealand.
Are you aware of that or are you aware of these? And yes,
I am. I've heard about them before. They don't seem to come out
all that often, but yeah, I've heard about it. It happens,
all right. The next question is for you, Mike from dog Me and
Tpee Hunting, and their question is, Mike, do you get the feeling
of dread, almost ill intent every time one sees you? Oh, I'm
sure they see me a lot more than I know. You know what I
mean. For every time that I see one, I'm sure one has seen
me, don't you know? You take your guess, take your guess probably
one hundred, two hundred and three hundred times your knows. But I don't
necessarily get that feeling of dread like that some people say. I also have
learned to put this kind of not not kind of I've learned to put this
like protective layering over me and it's very hard to explain. I've gone through
many different, uh sit downs with many different type of indigenous people, different
spiritual people, different, a lot of different I've traveled a lot of different
roads and had a lot of different sit downs with people far for more knowledgeable
than me. I'm a new boot and I just want to soak it all
in like a sponge and do things as respectably and safely as possible. Hopefully
one day, you know, when it's all said and done, there'll be
something to take from it, you know. But I I do. I
know what you mean by the feeling of dread, but i'd say, uh,
maybe I don't want to say I moved past that because I don't want
to drinx myself. But it's been a while since it's happened. Yeah,
thank goodness for that. The next questions or I guess it's more of a
comment. It's directed towards you, Paul from Gray Tall Cloud and their comment
is, Paul, I know exactly what you're saying about video. It's a
blurring effect, but they're everywhere behind it and other beings. Yeah, it's
I found that when you're recording if it's very very strange it's the strangest thing
that I mean, I don't even I'll tell you, but it really don't
make any sense. But when you're recording, when you go to pan left
or right and the picture gets blurry, their faces will show up clear.
And I'm not talking about these flesh and blood. I'm talking about whatever supernatural
side like you know, I don't know what it is, but their faces
will show up clear in the blur, and then when and then when the
picture gets clear, their faces will be blurry. You know, I don't
know. It doesn't make any sense to me, It really doesn't. But
uh, I mean, it's that's what I'm saying. Like it goes in
a direction that I really hate to even talk. I'll talk to you.
Let's talk more later a little bit, right, Yeah, both if you're
in a wealth of information, so I'm glad you're going to do that well.
And you know, like he was saying, it's it's everything I know
is trial and error. Like you know, it's like that bluff charge and
that growl, like I know that they will provide a warning, you know,
so you better, uh, you just better if you're out there looking
for a dog man or trying to have an encounter or doing research or whatever
you're doing. Just pay attention and don't miss you know, I don't know,
maybe they'll throw something at you, or I've heard them stomp, run
and break things, you know, like I heard when it kept blowing,
like like you walk up on it, Like if you've been there hunting and
had a deer blow at you, like it sees you. That's its way
of letting you know, haha, I see you. It'll blow at you
and then run off, you know, yeah, like a big buck wheel.
Well that's what whatever this was was doing that. But it was stomping
back and forth from left to right right out of my sight on the other
side of a creek. It was stomping and breaking limbs and throwing stuff,
and it was really mad that I was there. You know. This was
the same day I got grouled at and when it growled, it growled from
less than twenty feet away from you, and I didn't see it, and
I didn't run. I just backed up, you know, I pulled my
firearm and just stood there. You know, I backed up. I had
somebody with me, and I backed up about twenty feet thirty feet and just
stood there and it never it never did anything else other than you know,
stomp around and break stuff right out of sight. So yeah, they'll let
you know if you're unwelcome where you're at. Just don't you know, I
just don't push your luck. I guess if they don't want your round,
they're definitely good to getting the point across, no doubt about that. Yeah.
Got a question for both of you from baby Girl, and her question
is do dog can hunt other cryptids? Mike please go first. I have
no idea. I really, I don't have any idea if they I don't
know if there's some stuff out there smaller than them, like cryptid wise,
I don't. I don't see why anything would be off the menu, you
know, if it's if it makes sense for them to kill it, I
don't see why they wouldn't do it. They are built for they are built
for it. They're built for you know. I hate to be an Italian
American right now, but they're built for whack and whatever they want to whack,
you know what I mean. If they want to take you out,
they're going to take you out. And that's you know, and that's where
the logic comes in. They're so they seem like they're so sensible about what
moves they make, you know what I mean? I think that I think
if they have young with them, you know, uh, I think they
will kill whatever a bear. And then I've heard I've heard encounters of up
in Alaska and Canada, Uh, grizzly bears being dug up while they're hibernating
and killed, not eating, just killed and left. Now, what could
do that? What's gonna dig a grizzly bear out of a cave and kill
it and leave it? Lamb not just one but multi. Yeah, grizzlies
are massives. That's a good point. I've said it before about dog men
killing grizzlies, and there are a couple of people that took pretty a pretty
big amount of exception to that. They thought it was crazy to put it
out there that a dog man could kill a grizzly. But when you think
about how big and powerful these guys are, Yeah, once they're above a
certain size, I don't think a grizzly is going to pose a prop that
well I sorry, go ahead, Well no, that that that photo that
you have vic on uh one of your avatar your merch you know what I
mean with the woman that's holding the bear down. Yeah, Like that's like
very accurate. Like I love that one because to me, that's it depicts
fact. You know what I mean, it depicts fact. Well, I
set a camera trap up me and some other guys did in the Daniel boone
where we hung a rack of ribs in between two trees and put some fish
up, and we left trail cameras down there for two weeks. Unfortunately,
the very next morning after we left, a big black bear came in.
And it's the biggest black beard that I've ever seen in my life. I
mean, I'll send I'll show you pictures of it. I'll send them to
VIC and I'll send them to you, and I think I don't know if
i'll post them in the group I think I have. But it's at least
seven eight feet tall, just a beautiful on it a mass of six hundred,
seven hundred pound black bear. And you know the dog man that I
seen still dwarfed. You know, it dwarfed that bear, So I mean,
yeah, I don't. And we hung those ribs ten feet in the
air and that bear stood on its on its tin legs and retch up with
its mouth and grab those ribs. So yeah, wow, yikes, that's
no joke. Well, this next question is from Key from sixteen seventy five,
Paul, and I think it's corrected at you. Their question is on
the bluff charges. Were they on two feet? Are all fours? How
close do they? I can't say for sure, Will, I would like
to think it was on two feet. It's what it sounded like to me.
Just you know, when I first heard it, I thought it was
a domestic dog because I was in a nature preserve. There is a high
con trailer. It's not a very well you know known, it's not well
known by people, you know, just very few serious hikers know about it.
And uh it's near the Camp Nelson Cemetery, so uh yeah, it
it sounded to me like two legs toward the end of the bluff charge as
it got closer to me. And I just don't see a domestic dog stop
and having the intelligence to stop and not coming on out and attack. And
the way it sounded like it was coming to heat, you know, it
was on its way to me for sure. I don't think a domestic dog
would have made all that noise doing that either. No, no, I
don't. I don't even know why I thought that'd be honestly, like,
it just was. Yeah, I mean I guess your mind does that.
I don't know, Oh, of course. Yeah, if you're an experience
like if you're in an experience like that, you're going to look for for
answers that aren't much. Yeah, that's right. So it's only natural that
you thought that. Well, Mike, I've got a question for you.
For Stephen Jackson and Steven's question is why would you look for one? I
don't know. I mean, here's here's the That's a beautiful question, to
be honest with you, and it's a very loaded question. I never wanted
anything to do with him after after I first bumped into them, I didn't
want anything to do with him ever again. But after time I kept I
kept everything, even even as much as as much stuff as went down,
I kept a lot of it away from people. I just basically said I
took I took a little hiatus. That's why I haven't been around. Blah
blah blah blah blah. You know, I just kind of thrust it under
the rug. I didn't really want to talk about it. I just wanted
to bury it and move on and kind of forget about it, and uh
and stay away from Hopefully they'll stay away from me and I'll stay away from
it. But it didn't really work out that way. You know, dog
Man started to be come more prominent in you know, conversation everywhere. You
know, it kept popping up and popping up and popping up, and people
were talking about and I started to realize I wasn't the only one that went
through hell, and I realized that I was still dwelling with it. So
I'll put it to you like this, I don't go looking for dog men
necessarily. I know it's there. I put myself out there for whatever's out
there, whatever the case may be, whether it's dog Man, whether it's
Sasquatch, whether it's now. It's a whole different relationship, a whole different
I have a whole different standpoint on the two. But the dog Man thing
is more or less like I guess, a little side gig if you will,
right, I had to do it to work through my own trauma,
and I also want to do it a little bit to learn if I can
learn, Like I feel like it's my duty to kind of to kind of
get what I could get out of it and see if there's something there that
might help the next person, you know what I mean. And that's really
the only reason, honestly, I don't have I stand where VIC stands like
I don't really like them at all, I do. I don't really mean
it. If I can interrupt it. It took something from you, yeah,
yeah, and it did. You know, it did me the same
way. It took something from me, and I've been looking to get it
back. I guess I don't know. That's why I said I would do
this regardless whether there was ever a podcast or a Facebook group or anything,
I would still be doing what I'm doing because it did take something from me.
Well, you're right in your way, right. So at first I
avoided that whole spot where it happened. But now every time I go back,
I get back a little piece of me. Every time I go back
in there and I and I walk back out, okay, and I go
back in there and things don't happen. I even probably sent Vic a video
once when I was there, like look, Vic, this is it.
And I was like shaking, like this is the spot, like you know,
and I don't I don't remember back to if we talked about it after
and not, but like it's just I've come a long way since then now,
like I can you know, I can breathe easier in there, like
and it's not to say to let your guard down, but like that that
is a good way to put it. Something was taken from me, and
I guess I just kind of want to get it back and an understanding.
And you know, I took people out with me, like I had somebody
with me when I got crowded enter and after we got back to the house,
that guy looked at me and said, you know what, I'm gona
be honest at heat, I thought you were crazy. You know what a
good stealing that was for him? You know, you know he he I
took him and showed him, you know, like there's a difference in telling
someone a story and then showing him, you know what I'm saying, like
and to have somebody say, you know, I thought you were crazy.
But man, well like some I was trying to say something. The last
person I had to out, she's sitting right next to me. I told
her, I says, I said, watch when it's when when the wild
dogs you know, the pack of wolves start to rally around us, and
we're all angow right in the suburbs. And there's no coyote here, there's
no whatever, wild dogs, there's no wolves, right, but you can
hear them. You can hear them. They start to make their way in,
like they know you're there for miles off. God knows how, but
you can hear them making their way in. And like, I don't know
if you could relate to this ball, but it's like you can hear them
making these bounds like and and communicating with each other. And God knows where
they're coming from, right, Like I don't know, it sounds like they're
coming from, you know, in town somewhere. But like it's it's imploding
on you. It's so it's so weird, and then eventually it just stops,
like it just stops when it gets to you. And and and luck
you said a big foot and dog man, like I view it the same
way. Like to me, bigfoot is it's like researching whether my car is
in the driveway. You know, it's that we know about There's a lot
known about Bigfoot, you know. Uh, it's a very dysfunctional. I
mean, it's a very dysfunctional group of people. Uh, the Bigfoot community
is very Uh. You can't mix the communities. And that's why you know.
In my group, I don't allow any of that. It's strictly dog
man. I don't I don't allow Bigfoot content, UFO content and all that
stuff. I just try to keep it dog man because nobody cares about what
each other's doing. It really is a shame and has to be that way,
but and it is. It is the way you just laid it out.
Unfortunately, there's always been a lot of friction between the two camps.
Speaking of Bigfoot, there are a lot of people who listen to dog Men
Encounters. You were tried and true Sasquatch fans, right, I should say
run through Sasquatch fans. If you are, then I'll just want to bring
it to your attention. I've got a podcast that's very similar to Dogman Encounters,
except it focuses on Bigfoot and I don't ask any questions of guests.
There's no back and forth. If you want to just PLoP down and listen
to you Sasquatch sighting after Sasquatch sighting shared by the actual eyewitnesses, don't forget
to check out my other show. It's called My Bigfoot Sighting. The best
way to listen to it is on your favorite podcast app, just like Dogman
Encounters or any of the other shows. But if you want to check out
the YouTube version of the show, then it is on YouTube. Again.
The name of the show is My Bigfoot Sighting. And yeah, if you're
interested in Sasquatch Encounters, I think you should check it out. Well,
this next question is for you. I think this is for you Paul from
Ronald Wood. And Ronald's question is why would they look inquisitive at you or
bewildered? I don't know. I don't really know what inquisitive. What do
you mean? Why would they why would they be intrigued with us? Or
whatever? I think that's what he wants to know. I don't know.
I just know that some of the best footage that I've got, which I've
seen in real time while I was at recording, was because I decided to
stop and record a tree line that was overlooking kids and people playing and talking
and laughing and stuff. I watched that tree line and I don't know why
they want to watch us. I don't know what it is. And especially
kids. They I don't know if it's malicious, I don't know if it's
just intrigued. I don't know what it is, but they really do like
watching people. It's safe to say that we're there a TV almost. I
mean, yeah, yeah, it seems that way. Mike, what a
question for you from Stephen Jackson And Stephen wants to know do you think dogmen
are part of the four to one once? Oh? Yeah, most likely,
you know, most likely. It's hard to say. I guess right,
But there's just I've been in a situation where I've gotten stuck in a
place where I couldn't get out of and there was nothing involved. There was
no cryptid involved, there was no nothing. It was just me in a
place where no matter which way I went, I could not get out of
it. I walked forward and everything was the same. And then I turned
around three sixty or one eighty right, sorry, and went the other way.
And I was looking at everything the same way. And I did that
a couple of times, and I mean, I'm not looking at the backside
of things. I'm looking looking at it the same way. And then I
stepped off the trail. I started to panic and really freak out, and
I'm starting to get frustrated and mad. I'm losing my cool. I started
walking off trail north to south, and same things happening no matter what,
no matter which way I went, I could not undo this. Right.
Alls I knew was at the edge of this little bubble or whatever I was
in was this water, this giant, giant lake. And I dropped on
my knees and I put everything in there. Any long story short, I
got in that water. As soon as I hit that water, I went
down. I sunk like a rock. When I came back up, it
was like three birds chirping, people talk and whatever, because I could hear
people across the water talking regular and I was screaming at them, I mean
belting, screaming, and I'm like frantically, like damn near tears crying because
they can't hear me. And I'm like, they're gonna save me. I'm
eight miles in, dead, tired, no water, no food, I'm
stranded whatever. So long story short, I could have got stuck in there.
Maybe I don't know. You know, so I don't know what four
on one missing people are sometimes, but I think there's a lot, a
lot of stuff out there that goes on that that we can't really always you
know, check a box on or put in a box for lack of better
words. But Short dog Man could be definitely part of it. When hear
about people experiencing things like that, it really makes you one what's behind it?
It's like a Bermuda triangle type phenomenon or something. There was a guy
David Blobis was talking about a guy two guys who were riding box bicycles through
the mountains on trails, and I guess he came up on his frame and
his friend was stripping off all his clothes and he's like, what do you
do? He's like, I'm going to jump in that lake over there or
that creek or whatever. You're like, what are you talking about? What
creek? And his friends like that creek right there? He said, Man,
that's a wolf ground at you you know what I'm saying. There was
no creek there, so I mean, yeah, I don't. I don't.
You just never know what you're going to walk into a portal or you
know, I don't know. I've heard also people sticking their legs in portals
and stuff while they're alcutting then their leg disappearing. You know. Ew,
that's scary. That's really scary. If you've had a dog mean encounter,
would like to speak with me, whether I'm private or on the show,
please go to Dogmanecounters dot com and let me know. Of course, like
I've said on many occasions, there's never any pressure to come on and do
a show. If you want to just talk in private so that no one
else is ever going to know about your experience, that's doable. Like I
said, please just go to Dogmancounters dot com and reach out to me smith
a reporting. I'll be in contact with you to get that set up,
all right. The next question is for you, Paul, and it's from
Keith Glidewell, and Keith's question is what do you think is holding Dogman back
from killing? I mean this like this is kind of a loaded question too.
I mean, this is kind of I guess on everybody's beliefs, and
it's hard for me to see some of the things I've seen doing this research,
and you know, not think that there's a you know, there's a
spiritual side to it where I mean, if you want to call it spiritual,
supernatural, whatever, you can call it. So, I mean,
it's kind of brought me closer to my religion and my beliefs and stuff.
And just like what Mike's in the beginning, I think they know what follows
one of us going missing. You know, they don't want thirty forty one
hundred people trumping around in their home. And you know, you know,
there's a bunch of reasons. Really, you know, there could be something
that's restraining them from doing it. There could be an unspoken rule, you
know, or it could be them just knowing what follows a human going missing.
You raised some really good points. It's sure would be nice if we
knew definitively the answer to a lot of these questions. But I guess all
we can do is yes, Mike, I've got a question for you from
sery Lee, and she wants to know, would you rather run into a
mad dog me in or Matt Sasquatch. Oh Man, I don't know.
Neither one, I guess, but that Sasquatch a mad Sasquatch, I don't
know. Yeah, both are knowing situations. Yeah, definitely not good at
all. Well, I've got one more question I'm going to put out there
for you, and this is for Paul from Joe Koutzman, and Joe's question
is, do you believe the younger puffs are inherently vicious towards humans or does
that behavior come from the appearance. I don't think that they're vicious. I
think they I think they're diverse, just like we are. I think you
could run up a little of the bad attitude, or its mom could have
been killed or whatever, you know, anything could have been shot at before.
I think it just depends on it's like that it's lived. You know,
it's going to dictate how it raises it's young and what it teaches it's
young about us, you know, like you know, Bigfoot, for example,
will stack rocks in a creek in a manner that really just it shocks
people. They'll stop and get out and look at these rocks they stacked them.
While they're doing that, big puts on the hillside showing it's young.
The inside of the car, what you look like, how you move,
you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, I think the intelligence
that these creatures have are just I think they even we give them, it's
more than we even give them credit for. I believe, you know,
and I think there is some probably dumb ones too, you know, Like
I've seen some in pictures that look, you know, kind of iffy.
But I think they you know, and they're not all you know, he'd
foot tall with big muscles holding the LBL sign with red eyes. That's just
not how it goes, you know. They're just they're very diverse. I've
seen really skinny ones that look really bad, and I've seen some really big
ones. So I mean, you just never know. Just imagine there's a
sasquatch running out there that are jerks. Yeah yeah, that's not a good
thought at all, hitting your mailbox. Yeah yeah, well they don't need
it bad. That makes it even worse or something that's right. Well,
it's almost time for us to get out if you're a gentleman, but before
we do, you want to take some time to allow you to promote your
shows, your YouTube channels and any project exit you're working on, anything that
you want to put out there and promote. Please do Mike, please go
first. Uh yeah, I mean I do most of my posting on Long
Island Bigfoot on YouTube pretty much. I just do a lot of interactive live
streams. I try to bring people out into the field if there's signal,
if not, I try to film as much as I can. I do
my own personal side of things too, but it is over. I think
two thousand videos on there of just me on the field, and you know,
if anyone's ever interested in going, we try to schedule that too,
which is too easy. I mean, if you've got the time, I'm
always out there. I think we're going to going up into the mountains in
a couple of days. I don't know. And yeah, we were just
out of camp here on mon Talk doing an expedition out there with a couple
of people. I think we're going up to the mountains too, in a
couple of days. I can't keep track, but yeah, yeah, if
you want to keep up, come by it. In case you haven't notice,
both these guys they don't let any grass grow under their feet. They
stay ridiculously busy. They're always out there researching all the time. And I
forgot to ask the most important question. Does Elena want to say hello?
Do you want to say I'll tell you what, Guys, We're going to
put this show on pause until Lena says hi to us. That's funny.
My girlfriend's been sitting here with me. Do okay, she was in our
bathroom. Sorry to put on the spot. Well, no, I'm not.
Paul. Do you want to let your girlfriend say hello? We'd love
to hear from her. We say hello, honey, hey guys, thanks
for keeping Paul inline for us. Yeah. Yeah, she's sitting here listening
to her listening to her phone, got her earbuds and listening to us.
Because I've got my hair body. She can't hear what we're She's been sitting
there with hers on mute for the past two hours. Yeah, I'm sure
keeping Paul online is a full time job. So I feel for you.
Yeah, she's pregnant. Now, she's got three months pregnant. Congratulations,
were happy. But it's a boy. Finally I got three girls. I'm
happy it's a boy finally. No, I understand, Well, Paul,
why don't you promote your channel and any of the projects that you're working on.
I mean, you know, I don't. I don't share any evidence
or anything outside of my group. You know, I've got some good friends,
like the dude from Texas and Shane you know who got the you know
like that whoever that person was early to ask about a group in Michigan.
I recommend if you can't find a good serious group, start your own group,
you know, and people will join it if if at the evidence and
the stuff you're sharing, and you know, I mean I don't. I
don't. Really there's groups out there. If you want to see pictures of
wherewolves, some pinterests and stuff. I mean, there's groups for that,
you know. But I try to keep everything, you know, evidence based.
Every picture is not going to be crystal clear. If that's what you
want, then I'm sorry. Uh, but you know, I don't share
outside my group because I don't really have time to argue with people and stuff.
But I'll let anybody share anything that I post. I don't hide anything.
Everything I do is you know, I'll share it with anybody. Any
knowledge I have about it, I'll share it because that's why I do it
for Really, I'm not I'm not in competition with anybody. Uh. You
know. I got the Kentucky dog Man Project group on Facebook and I've got
the YouTube channel. You know, it's grown a lot in the last year.
I've got about two thousand members roughly on both you know each, So
uh, I mean, yeah, it just answered the questions to join the
group. So you know, because if you're not gonna take two seconds to
answer a couple of questions, you're not gonna take two sects to look at
the pictures how I really feel about it, So you know, you know,
and I'm always trying to improve the quality of the pictures and the evidence
I get. And to be honest with you, I'm way beyond pictures.
I post them because I know the people in the group like see them and
stuff, but I'm beyond all that stuff. I've uh, this has really
just took me. I mean, it blows my mind still to this day.
You know, some of the things that I see in pictures and stuff
freaks me out, Like I can't believe this stuf's really going on. Yeah,
there are some freaky pictures out there that definitely are Yeah, yeah,
for sure do and uh no, I mean even vick, like even things
I haven't showed you or talked about, Like some of these pictures like I
see a dog man's face across the river on the bank as big as the
front of a house. To me is mind blowing and it's just a I
don't even know how to put it into words. On listen it is hard
to sum it up. It definitely is well for everyone listening. If you
want to check out these guys channels, which I highly recommend you do and
hope you do, please go to the description for tonight's show and I put
the links there that'll make it really easy. But guys, I can't thank
you enough for coming on and answering all these questions. I'm sure you realize
there are several questions I didn't have time to get to and for people who
asked those questions that I missed, I didn't get to understand. This is
just the first Q and a show. There are going to be others.
Part two is probably not going to be that far down the road, so
we hope you're going to come back and ask those questions again, so please
keep that in mind. But having said that, thanks again so much for
listening to the show. Everyone. Thanks so much Paul and Mike for coming
on participating. I really appreciate it, and I hope you have a great
night. Oh you're welcome, You are welcome, have a great night.