1 00:00:10,919 --> 00:01:29,079 A A A A A Hey everyone, thanks so much for joining us for 2 00:01:29,159 --> 00:01:34,719 this special live stream Q and A episode of dog Man Encounters. You know, 3 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:38,280 earlier this week, I was thinking to myself, here, I am 4 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:44,400 about five hundred episodes in and I still haven't an aired I've never aired a 5 00:01:44,519 --> 00:01:47,760 Q and A episode of the show. It seems like when I've been airing 6 00:01:47,799 --> 00:01:53,079 these live stream episodes, a bunch of questions pop up that really aren't targeted 7 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,640 at the guest. They're more general questions about dogmen that are being asked. 8 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,359 So I thought, you know what, but maybe I should just air that 9 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:06,239 live stream Q and A show and answer some of those questions. Seems like 10 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:09,159 there's no lack of questions popping up when we do this, so that's why 11 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:13,400 we're going to air tonight's show. But having said that, I've got some 12 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:20,840 special guests on lined up to answer your questions to dog mean researchers with pretty 13 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,919 darn impressive credentials when it comes to dog men, of course, in talking 14 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:30,759 about Paul Chaffin from the Kentucky Dogman Project and Mike cal Antonio from A Long 15 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,240 Island Bigfoot. Now don't let that name of his YouTube channel for you Long 16 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,080 Island Bigfoot. Don't think for a second that all he's researched are sasquatch, 17 00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:44,680 because yeah, that couldn't be further from the truth. And as far as 18 00:02:44,719 --> 00:02:49,719 Paul Chaffin goes this man, when he heads out to try and collect evidence 19 00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:53,479 on these guys, it seems like almost every time he goes out he has 20 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,039 success. So yeah, like I said, both these guys have got credentials 21 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,680 a mile long. But having said that, let's bring them in here now. 22 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,680 Mike and Paul, thanks so much for joining us. Good to be 23 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:09,080 here, Vic. Oh, I good to see you. Vic. It's 24 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,120 great to see you too. Speaking of seeing you, Mike, Paul, 25 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:15,960 what's going on? Why are you so cryptic? You're not even showing what 26 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:22,080 you look like? So dark out here, man, I got to keep 27 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,520 it that way so that you know. Mike Paul's kind of on the secretive 28 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:28,039 side. I don't know what it is about him, but I don't know 29 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,439 something about him. Yeah, it must be here. I don't know where 30 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:38,520 he gets it from. Yeah, it makes me wonder too. That's right. 31 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,840 Well, you both have been on the show more than once each but 32 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:46,599 I'm sure there are people listening tonight, who have never caught any of those 33 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:51,639 episodes. So why don't you guys tell us about yourselves. Paul, please 34 00:03:51,680 --> 00:04:00,599 go first. Well, I'm from eastern Kentucky and around pat County, riding 35 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,199 the peak right on the border of West Virginia. I grew up there until 36 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:10,280 they shut the coal industry down. I moved to central Kentucky where I live 37 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,759 now. I got three kids, one on the way, I got three 38 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,040 daughters, got a little boy on the way. Now. Of course, 39 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,160 you know, I had an encounter when I was young, fifteen years old, 40 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:28,639 was something I can't explain. Upro out walking came in and my life 41 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:32,920 has never been the same. So, yeah, I'm a I'm just a 42 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:38,480 hillbilly. I'm just an outdoorsman. I love being outdoors. I'd be doing 43 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:41,879 this if none of this ever existed in the Internet or not, I still 44 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,000 be doing what I'm doing. Some of the people that are in this they 45 00:04:46,079 --> 00:04:50,319 kind of seem like they're almost posers. But when it comes to Paul and 46 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:55,639 Mike, both of these guys they not only talk the talk, but they 47 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,639 walk the walk as well. Both really impressive they are. Mike, what 48 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:09,600 can you tell us about yourself in a nutshell. I I was in the 49 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:12,279 uh. You know, I had done everything under the sun. I had 50 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:16,680 went to you know, community college, I had tried every trade under the 51 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:23,680 sun. You know, one day I just went down to the local recruiting 52 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,279 office for the army with a friend and bing bang boom. Before you know 53 00:05:28,319 --> 00:05:29,800 it, they were like, well, what are you doing? That's so 54 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:34,279 great? And I said nothing. So I joined two and a half year 55 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:40,560 contract and I extended to go to Afghanistan. And anyway, about four years 56 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,680 went by and a lot of trauma and sued from that, so I started 57 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,920 to go to the VA hospital. Eventually I came back and I dove into 58 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:54,079 addiction and it just wasn't working right. When does it ever work right? 59 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,959 So I had to get find my way away from that and then you know, 60 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,879 get some healing from my PTSD. So the way I kind of went 61 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:08,040 at it was like you know, listening to medical advice, but also like 62 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:14,240 these spiritual type things like between meditation, I got, I learned and got 63 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:19,199 certified in reiki, yoga, just all these things that I would never go 64 00:06:19,319 --> 00:06:26,399 you know, anywhere near really the former me. I guess I was kind 65 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:29,240 of reinventing myself. And while I was doing that, it was taking about 66 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,920 five years, and I was just hiking in the woods, just you know, 67 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:39,519 just going about my business. And I guess kind of like how everybody's 68 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,839 you know, start, well not maybe not everybody, but I, you 69 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:49,519 know, slammed smack dab into a sasquatch that wasn't supposed to be there, 70 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:57,160 right, wasn't supposed to And uh that set me on. Ah, I 71 00:06:57,199 --> 00:07:02,000 guess, rabbit hole dive and owng that rabbit hole comes these dog men and 72 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:09,000 they are there, and they're very present. I was ignorant to it at 73 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,879 first until like you know, they they put themselves in a nutshell, They 74 00:07:14,879 --> 00:07:18,600 put themselves in my way to the point where I could not ignore their you 75 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:25,000 know, their existence. For those of you who know the story, it 76 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,639 was it was getting dark one night, I mean, do you want me 77 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,279 to dive into that? Or sure? By all means? Well, all 78 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,920 right. So I was at this place and uh, it's kind of close 79 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,360 to my house and it's on the edge of suburbia, and it's it's kind 80 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,399 of on these hospital grounds, but on the on the far far outskirts, 81 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:51,759 it's this big university slash hospital. Uh, big, big grounds, and 82 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:57,439 there's these a lot of unused areas woods, and found this cool spot and 83 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,399 it's perfect. It's great back there, a lot, there's just a lot 84 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:07,879 of room to work with. And one day I just I knew I was 85 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:13,560 dealing with dog man, but I didn't. You know, you could kind 86 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,959 of talk yourself out of it a little bit. But I was working my 87 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,519 way down this There was this road, this long private road that you take 88 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,600 all the way into the back to get to where I was. I had 89 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,120 found it. Originally, I would have never found this back park A lot 90 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,519 back here, this isolated there, I would have never found it. But 91 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,679 one day I was just doing what I do. I don't necessarily always walk 92 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:37,639 trails because trails, you know, aren't really where you're gonna find things. 93 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,360 So I go to places that don't have trails and just pave my own way. 94 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,559 So that's what I was doing one day, and that's how I found 95 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:48,879 this place in the back. I hiked about two three miles through these woods 96 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:52,919 and I found this place back there. So then I started learning how to 97 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,240 drive back there. So on this particular occasion, I was trying to make 98 00:08:56,279 --> 00:09:00,600 my way down because it got dark I was trying to make my way to 99 00:09:00,639 --> 00:09:05,480 the street because all I could see in the pitch black darkness was, you 100 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:11,720 know, a street light. So it had this It's hard to explain, 101 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:16,279 but it's like an alley of these, you know, it's just grass with 102 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,840 these overhanging trees on both sides, and they're very suffocating like they the the 103 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,320 way to make your way through is very very narrow, like very very narrow, 104 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,759 And as I got to the edge towards the end, I kind of 105 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:35,799 started to let my guard down, and as I did that, I got 106 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:41,440 bluff charged by these two. I say bluff charge because I think the word 107 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,720 attack is used too loosely. I'm still standing. These things were monstrous. 108 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:52,879 It looked like an alligator head, like it could have swallowed it clamped open. 109 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:54,039 I could have swallowed my head if I won't if I wanted to. 110 00:09:56,159 --> 00:10:00,720 So in a nutshell, I don't want to use the wor attacked. But 111 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:05,080 it was the scariest thing I've ever experienced in my life. But I'm still 112 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:13,279 standing today. So long story short, I backpedaled my way out of there 113 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,320 and now I'm now I'm in the street, and they they were seeded back 114 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,799 into the tree line, and I could see all these eyeshine and as I'm 115 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,279 trying to go down that street and make my way long way round to my 116 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:31,240 vehicle, I can see them making these a military guy, they're tactical bounds. 117 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:35,559 There they were, they were making tactical movements and you could see them. 118 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,120 You could see the eyes and then they were closed and then like but 119 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:46,840 they were making these leaps and bounds like in in tactical formations and following me 120 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,639 and staying ahead of me, and like it was really scary. It was 121 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,360 really scary. It was It was a lot of things that I wasn't processing 122 00:10:54,399 --> 00:11:01,799 at the time. I was just literally trying to make the only thing you 123 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:07,679 could do is make the best decision in the moment that you think might work 124 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,600 out for you. I have ideally you want to make it home, right. 125 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,240 But even though I just had this face to face, like I mean, 126 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,919 spitting in my face type encounter, I was still just, you know, 127 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,039 just as scared of when they were as when they were, you know, 128 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:35,279 thirty forty yards off and just seeing eyeshine. After that, I didn't 129 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:37,879 go back there for a long time, I mean a long time, and 130 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:41,279 I think we talked about this fit, but I didn't go back there for 131 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:46,000 a long time, and it ruined a lot for me. It ruined a 132 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:50,080 lot for me for quite a while. I was having a lot of bad 133 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:56,759 experiences with them. The whole follow you home thing is accurate, at least 134 00:11:56,759 --> 00:12:03,559 for me. It was was getting bad information, things to do and things 135 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,720 you know how to how to make amends with them, and lots of different 136 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:15,679 things. And you know what it boiled down to for me was to to 137 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,919 have a healthy respect, I had to bury the fear. I didn't want 138 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:24,080 to get rid of the fear completely right, because complaced on setill get you 139 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:30,600 killed. And I don't want to be ignorant, but I had to let 140 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,600 go of that, that complete and utter fear of them because I was scared 141 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,120 to open my door in my house. I was scared to throw my trash 142 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:43,879 away. I was just throwing trash out the door, like I was not 143 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,039 going anywhere. I wasn't going. I would not leave my house because I 144 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,039 was afraid that right outside my door was a dog man all the time, 145 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:58,159 all the time. And that's it's not a reality, right, And I 146 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:03,840 had to get over the emotional part in order to see the emotional part, 147 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:11,159 the trauma part, in order to see that if they wanted me so badly 148 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:16,039 hurt, then it would already happen. So I had to It was not 149 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,159 an easy pill to swallow and an easy thing to accept, but I had 150 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,200 to look at that from from a you know, from an outside perspective and 151 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,600 get out of the emotional side of things and realize, Okay, this isn't 152 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:31,639 just a straight monster, it's not a straight killing machine. It's got logic. 153 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:39,519 It's like serious, serious logic. Can I say for sure what it 154 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,720 was thinking. No, but I'm thinking it knew better than that. I 155 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:50,200 think it knew if it took me out that people would come looking. That's 156 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,879 one of the most frightening things about these guys, not just how they look, 157 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,799 but if you have an encounter with one of these guys, it's pretty 158 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,320 evident that they've got quite a bit of intiughegends, and that just makes it 159 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,840 that much worse, well worse in some waysn't better than others, but when 160 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:11,080 you know that they've got the implements of destruction they have and uh with that's 161 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,840 just so amazing, so impressive. That makes them awfully formidable. It really 162 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:20,919 does. Paul. Since you came on last, you've had some new experiences. 163 00:14:20,919 --> 00:14:28,600 What can you tell us about them? Well, I've I mean just 164 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:33,200 listening to him like it, uh, I mean I just literally relived everything, 165 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:37,000 you know, every encounter that I've had, you know, like I 166 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:43,240 just relived it and uh yeah, it's uh I've a yeah. I took 167 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:46,960 a guy out last November. I had a guy come down from Indiana. 168 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,559 He wanted to go out, and you know, and that's another thing, 169 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:56,240 like he I mean, to have an encounter. It just it's called an 170 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:01,919 encounter, but not none are the same. Like, you know, emotionally, 171 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,919 it's going to affect you different depending on how it went, you know, 172 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:07,799 what happened and all that. But I hear people all the time talking 173 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:11,600 about they want to have an encounter, and what they really mean is they 174 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:13,960 want to have a controlled encounter. You know, they think, you know, 175 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:18,159 Patty, they want to have a Patterson again. They want to see 176 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:20,759 a dog man wave look over his shoulder and wave as it walks off or 177 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,000 whatever. But that's just not the case. You know, every encounter I've 178 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:28,279 had, I've been you know, I've been knee deep in before I realized 179 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,120 I was even having an encounter, you know, and it's too late. 180 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:35,879 You can't run. You think you know what you'll do in that situation, 181 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,559 and you just really don't, you know, you just everything goes out the 182 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:45,039 window. So I mean, yeah, I took a guy out last November. 183 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,080 He come down and we went down to the Kentucky River. I took 184 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,080 him into an area that you know, I had never been in before, 185 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,639 but I had been down to the river there, but we went to the 186 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,720 top of the mountain where I had never been. And when we got up 187 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:00,519 there, I caught I kept catching movement out the corner of my eye, 188 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,360 and uh, I told him, I said, I just seen, I 189 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,720 said I. I told him, I said, I seen something right there, 190 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:11,600 I said, and I'm pretty sure there's a dog man sitting right there 191 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,000 at the end of that dog at the end of that log, looking at 192 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,240 us. And sure enough, you know, I couldn't see it. It 193 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,039 was just a little bit. You know, I wear glasses and I didn't 194 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:22,279 have them on that day, but I knew it was right there. I 195 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,039 had seen the movement. And he recorded, you know, I got him. 196 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:30,039 He's sitting in front of me. Recording with his phone and with my 197 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,039 phone recording. I can see on his phone. I can see it on 198 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,840 his phone too, you know, like it was plain as day. Yeah, 199 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:41,399 we got we got some really good footage that day, and uh we 200 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:45,720 we come up on some some really good tree structures and like dens like they 201 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:49,879 had, I mean intelligent design too. You know, they had piled sticks 202 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:53,840 up like a lean to and had sticks holding them up like it was uh 203 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,320 not I can't say that dog Man did that for sure, but I've never 204 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,879 seen anything else. It's in the area, you know, and uh, 205 00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:06,960 I've had bluff charges and I've been grould at down there all on camera and 206 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:11,799 video, you know. So I've just uh every time I go out, 207 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,400 you know, I usually push my luck and go a little bit further than 208 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,599 I probably should. But that's why I'm there. So you know, I'm 209 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:22,119 not I don't regret it, and I'm prepared to deal with whatever happens. 210 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,319 I never going on, you know, I'm always armed for whatever good it'll 211 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:33,039 do. But yeah, uh my encounter pretty much the same as his, 212 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,200 you know, like it just it's emotionally, it just wrecks you for your 213 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,480 life, you know, like it's like I said before, every kid that's 214 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,960 been born I've had that's been in the back of my mind, you know. 215 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:52,079 So uh yeah, it's it's it's traumatic, especially as a young as 216 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,640 a young man, you know, like because I love the deer hunt, 217 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,759 I love being outdoors. That was my thing, Like I really love deer 218 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:00,599 hunting, and it damaged me for about three or four months, you know, 219 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,319 and I just had to get over And then, you know where I'm 220 00:18:04,319 --> 00:18:07,079 from, you mentioned this stuff, you get laughed at. I don't care. 221 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:11,000 I don't care. If it's somebody that's had an encounter before, they 222 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,519 won't talk about it. I no laugh at you, you know, like 223 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:17,119 they just joined the crowd. I'm more of an outspoken person. I don't 224 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,839 care to talk about it. I don't care how people you me or how 225 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,400 they feel. I don't care. I'll talk about it amongst a bunch of 226 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,440 strangers. I don't care. I can relate because where I live at the 227 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,799 I'm in the suburbs, and basically everything is haunted. Every bump in the 228 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,160 night is people just say something's haunted. It's a ghost, it's a spirit, 229 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,640 it's the legend and the spirit of this and this and this and this 230 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:47,599 and this. Right, cryptids aren't really a thing that people talk about or 231 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,319 whatever. So you know, for me to talk about you know how I'm 232 00:18:52,319 --> 00:18:56,079 in the suburbs and there was a dog man on the neighbor's roof, but 233 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,839 nobody else saw it but me, it sounds nuts, you know what I 234 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:04,759 mean. So it's a tough thing to I get what you're saying. It's 235 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:11,279 tough, and it's tough. Well, the fact both of you guys have 236 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,359 had the encounters that you had, but you still go back into the woods. 237 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,400 I mean that takes a lot of sin to do that. Ninety nine 238 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,920 point nine percent of the population, if they had just one of the experiences 239 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,880 you guys have had, they'd never go back in. So yeah, that 240 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:33,200 really that, in my opinion, that sets you above and beyond it. 241 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,160 And you know, it ain't been like to no avail either because the things 242 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,200 that I've learned in the last like my views on this subject in the last 243 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:47,759 two years have went. I mean, it's it's insane like because the things 244 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:51,880 I believe right now. Two years ago I was laughing at people, you 245 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,400 know for talking about that, not laughing at them, but you know, 246 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,480 I just thought that it was that WU factor. I just wasn't into it. 247 00:19:57,559 --> 00:20:02,559 I didn't you know, or and you know, portals and dimensions and 248 00:20:02,599 --> 00:20:06,599 all that stuff. I just wasn't feeling that. I've seen them blink their 249 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,440 eyes. They have little ones, so they breathed. I've seen scat so 250 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,880 they hunt, you know, they they I just I don't know, I 251 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,960 don't it just it's it's all very strange. Like with every answer you get 252 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:22,680 comes ten more questions. And I mean that like it's uh, it just 253 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:26,799 keeps getting deeper and deeper and deeper, and uh leads you. It leads 254 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:30,039 you in a way that you don't want to go. And a lot of 255 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,119 researchers won't go there. They want to keep it flesh and blood. And 256 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,920 I understand that, I really do, because most people will look at I 257 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,359 mean, even keeping it flesh and blood, you're gonna get laughed at. 258 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,000 So you know, you start talking about portals and orbs and stuff, and 259 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:47,039 people just you lose them, you know. So, But yeah, unfortunately 260 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:49,720 it is a part of it. I can't deny. But uh, yeah, 261 00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:53,160 sorry about that. Go ahead, No, you're fine. Isn't it 262 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:59,720 funny how your views on these guys changes how your views change over time the 263 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:03,400 more you find out about them. Mm hm, it is. I mean 264 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,000 it's not to day. My views right now are literally different than what they 265 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:11,000 were because the dog man, and I do believe there are flesh and blood 266 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:14,839 dog man out here, and because I've seen one, you know, I 267 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,960 know they're real. The thing I seen was as real as looking at him 268 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:22,240 right now, you know, like it's it was there. Well, you 269 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:23,720 know, Paul, the first time I looked, the first time I had 270 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,559 seen the sasquatch, and the first time I saw a door man, they 271 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:32,640 were both in the flesh. So if that was my first and on me 272 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,720 and my last experience, that's what I would have stopped that too, probably, 273 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:42,079 And I think that's where a lot of people get I'm stuck, right 274 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,480 because they get that one thing and then they don't get any follow up for 275 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:49,240 whatever reason they don't. They don't get much more. I don't know why, 276 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,440 you know, I can't. I can guess to me, but I 277 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,400 can't say for sure, you know, but you know, so that's where 278 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,000 they get stuck. I think a lot of people in that flesh and blood, 279 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,480 but I do. I'm right there with you. It's in the ever 280 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:10,279 evolving rabbit hole of you know, high strangeness. And you know, if 281 00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:14,200 you're really following the truth, I mean, if you're really really following it, 282 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,559 you know, it gets weird like that, like you're saying, does 283 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,400 yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ignore evidence just because 284 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,000 they don't line up with my previous beliefs. You know, I don't have 285 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:26,480 a That's why I'm able to spot things in pictures and videos because I don't 286 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,920 have a preconceived notion of what these things look like. I would love to 287 00:22:32,079 --> 00:22:33,920 know. I would like to think that these creatures are smart enough and have 288 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,079 the self awareness to know that their ears give them away, you know, 289 00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:45,759 or you know, I mean, I just the self awareness and the uh, 290 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:48,720 the just the abilities that they have are off the chart, like they 291 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,720 really are. And they will move when your backs time. You know, 292 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:56,240 they're not gonna they know nothing to move when you're looking at them. So 293 00:22:56,279 --> 00:23:00,160 you let if you take a female with you and let her record over her 294 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,440 shelter, she will, I'm telling you, you will get the best footage 295 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,680 that you've ever that you've ever got. I mean, that's been it's been 296 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,960 my experience, and like I said, I've been in a couple of situations 297 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,400 where I'm glad I didn't have anybody with me because I don't know what I 298 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,240 would have done. But that bluff charge was really uh. I mean, 299 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,039 you know, it sent my heart into my throat for sure, it was. 300 00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:29,319 It was really out I'm sure it was. And what you just said 301 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,240 about their abilities being off the charts that made me think about something. If 302 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,039 I had a nickel for every time I heard someone talk about taking guns out 303 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:41,680 into the woods to protect yourself from these guys or even from sasquatch, give 304 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,000 me a break. If these guys wanted to wipe you off the map, 305 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,680 it doesn't matter how big of a gun you have, they could easily take 306 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,920 you out without you getting off a single shot. So yeah, people have 307 00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:56,920 laughed at me, made fun of the fact that I go into the woods 308 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,480 and I walked miles unarmed without anyone else with me, and they say how 309 00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:07,240 crazy I am for doing that. I'm no crazier for heading deep into the 310 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:14,799 woods without a gun than someone who thinks that they're ten millimeter or if they 311 00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:17,960 carry see a twelve gage into the woods. If they think that's going to 312 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,480 protect them anymore than harsh language is gonna protect me. They're crazy, they're 313 00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:26,920 misled, because, like I said, these guys, if they want to 314 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,240 take you out, it doesn't matter what you bring with you. They can 315 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,720 do it at will. How many times have we heard about hunters being found 316 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:41,480 dead with arms pulled off or their chests slashed open and circle exactly and not 317 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:45,839 even a single round being fired. So yeah, I mean that just highlights 318 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,680 the fact that these guys, if they want to get you, they're gonna 319 00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:56,519 get you. You're a got But as you two know, they're not wired. 320 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:57,960 And I think, as you said earlier, Mike, these guys are 321 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,039 not wired to kill you on site. Yeah, you do have some dangerous 322 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:07,759 examples who are dangerous and will slaughter you to get the chance, but that's 323 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,720 definitely the exception and not the norm. So yeah, just I take a 324 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:18,000 big exception to these people who say you're crazy if you go into a woods 325 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,000 where there might be a dog men or even a sasquatch unarmed, because it 326 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:26,599 doesn't make a difference. I believe they will provide a warning. They will 327 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,480 in my in every case I've had, they will provide a warning, whether 328 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,960 it's a growl, whether it's throwing something, whether it's you know, stomping 329 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,839 around breaking stuff, like, they will provide a warning to you. And 330 00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:41,400 if you don't listen and back out, and you know, God only God 331 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,880 only knows what will happen to you. You know, I carry a gun 332 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:49,079 with me, not for those for that reason. I carry for other reasons, 333 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,319 mountain lines, whatever. Yeah, and you know it, maybe it 334 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,880 is a false sense of security, but it makes me feel better, like 335 00:25:56,039 --> 00:26:00,759 a little kid with a blanket, you know, or whatever. It Uh, 336 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,359 it provides me some kind of well, it adds to my bravery, 337 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:10,240 I guess, and it allows me to, you know, to go go 338 00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:14,400 a little bit further, I guess than I normally would. I carry an 339 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,240 air horn people, people like, what do you carry? I carry? 340 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,799 I carry an air onorn. If if something happens to me and I go 341 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,400 down and I want, you know, that's as far as I go, 342 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,880 really, as if I can't yell, I want, you know, a 343 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,079 bear or whatever, I blow the airhorn, you know, but that's about 344 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,440 as much as I carry now, and I don't I'm with Vicar on it, 345 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,640 like, as far as I feel like my my my interactions are far 346 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,720 far more better because I do think they know what guns are, you know, 347 00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:53,279 take her or leave it. I don't think they do much good. 348 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,839 And if you want to carry one, absolutely now here on the island. 349 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,119 I don't have any big predators. We don't have mountain lions, we don't 350 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,559 have coyote, wolves, bears. When I go up into the mountains, 351 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:11,519 it's a different story right now, that's a whole, totally different story. 352 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,319 I come across bear in the past two years, I've come across bear more 353 00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:19,839 than I have in my whole entire life. I didn't even know what to 354 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,440 do. I had no idea what to do with a black bear, like 355 00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:30,319 I but I've encountered about I don't know, more than one hand I can 356 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,599 count, but less than two hands probably, and somewhere between five and ten 357 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,680 times I bumped into a black bear in the past two years, and right 358 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,119 in the catskills. I mean, I'm not talking, I'm not even talking 359 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,559 far from people's homes and stuff. You know, most of the time, 360 00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:47,759 I'm not even far from my car, and like so stuff can just happen, 361 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,960 you know. But I mean I agree with that. If they make 362 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:56,119 if they make the decision to take you out then not a task force can't 363 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,200 stop. I mean, right right, no doubt. You know you're you're 364 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,440 going out. You know it's uh, I mean the bluff charge that happened 365 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,720 to me happened so fast. I mean it was yeah. I mean, 366 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,240 I couldn't have done nothing, and I had. I had a shotgun. 367 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,160 I was shooting three inch slug Max. Do that now, that'll blow up 368 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,599 your fist and anything. And uh, it would have been a real last 369 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,480 resort for me too, you know, I said, vig nose, I 370 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,279 tried to climb that tree and put big thorns in my head and stuff, 371 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:30,559 you know, like it was a I pulled a blade thinking back, how 372 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:34,400 it was ridiculous that was thinking like I you know, it was on my 373 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:37,960 waist and I just pulled it out and flipped it open, and you know, 374 00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:44,279 just frantically like and I didn't even have like looking back, I oh, 375 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,079 you know I was and mind Joe, I'm in the last profession was 376 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:53,640 a you know, uh, combat soldier, like I mean, and I'm 377 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240 like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing, you know what I 378 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:02,319 mean, Like I'm prepared to do battle with man, but what is this 379 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,799 thing? And I mean, like, like you said, I work in 380 00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:08,680 the coal mines for years, so I may I made peace with death long 381 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,880 ago in my life, you know, like I'm not. Yeah, none 382 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,079 of us are getting out alive anyway, so you know I made peace with 383 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,279 it. Do I want to go not no violent death like that? No 384 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:22,960 I don't. But you know, I've just always pushed the limits, whether 385 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,519 it's driving my I got a fast car, dirtbox, boilers, just whatever 386 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:33,000 I do. I'm uh, you know, I'm extreme, I guess yeah, 387 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:37,759 and adrenaline junkie and ye're running into these guys will definitely get that flowing. 388 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,680 Well, I've got the first question for you. I'm going to throw 389 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,799 this one at you, Mike. It is from Sasquatch Confessions, and they 390 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,440 want to know, is anyone ever seen a dog men come out of a 391 00:29:48,480 --> 00:30:02,200 portal? No? I don't. I've seen a dog man come out of 392 00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:07,240 a portal. I think he's asking if you know if anyone has ever seen 393 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,599 a dog and come out of a portal? Oh? Most likely. I 394 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:18,720 mean, now, so here's my thing, right, I've seen something go 395 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:25,000 into one. It was a large very similar to what Vic Savatar is there. 396 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,359 It ran across. Uh. I was on one ridge and there was 397 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:37,799 another ridge and it was just getting dark and something tall, huge and dark. 398 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,839 Of course I go right to Sasquatch. But what was it? I 399 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,440 don't know, but it was running. It went so fast that I had 400 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,079 my camera out already and I couldn't you know, I couldn't do this to 401 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:55,160 keep up with it. And it did the best thing. I could describe 402 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,799 it as remember your old old TV and where you had to walk up to 403 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,640 it and push the button, you know what I mean, and the TV 404 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,359 would turn off, and when the TV when the screen would implode on itself 405 00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:14,039 kind of and that that big slit at the end it would do like that 406 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:18,200 big white slit before the whole screen turned off. It was like this thing 407 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:26,440 ran full speed and this big white flash and then this big like slit huge, 408 00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:27,920 I mean, you know, on a grand scale, it was probably 409 00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,119 twenty yards tall. I don't know. And that was it. It was 410 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:40,240 just regular you know, twilight. Again, that's as close as I can 411 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,880 get to you for a personal experience, but I don't I'm not sure, 412 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,559 brother. Yeah, they have reported. I was spoken with people who have 413 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,519 credible eyewitnesses who've told me about seeing that. So yeah, apparently it does 414 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,920 happen. Paul, I've got a question for you from Vanessa. She wants 415 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:04,599 to know our dogm in hybrids are natural creatures. Well, I mean, 416 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,400 this is something that I'm uh, I'm going back and forth with myself, 417 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:17,119 like I believe that they are, Ah, my personal views. I don't 418 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,039 know this to be a factor, and it's just my personal opinion based on 419 00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:24,960 the evidence and things I've seen and gathered. I believe they are somewhere down 420 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,039 the line before DNA has been mixed, you know, whether it was with 421 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,559 man and wolf or with whatever you know, Uh, somewhere down the line, 422 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,480 you know that that has happened. I believe. I don't think these 423 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:43,920 are a natural creature that that God or the Creator put on the earth or 424 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,839 whatever. I think they were made, uh, and I think they are 425 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,519 still here to this day there. I don't know whether they're they breed and 426 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,920 have offspring offspring, or someone or something is still making them. I don't 427 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,240 know, but they are flesh and blood foreshir dog and still run around, 428 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,599 and a lot of them too, and the Daniel boones eat up with them. 429 00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:07,720 So uh, and and I don't know. Uh, I don't like 430 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:13,400 the ones that can cloak or they can do whatever that they is that they 431 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:19,000 do. I don't know if they're deceased or if they're cloaked or you know, 432 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,720 I don't know what what they are, but I just know they're there. 433 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,880 And the clearer your video is that you're recording them with, the better 434 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,559 you can see the the the blurriness that they call in the background, you 435 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:34,480 know, the distortion they calls. You know, it's uh, it's all 436 00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:37,920 very strange, you know. And I've never seen a I've never seen I've 437 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,079 seen portals what I think is portals that, but I've never seen them come 438 00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,279 in or or you know, come out and want to go in one. 439 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:49,920 They definitely do a lot of things that are off hard to explain away by 440 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,400 them being flesh and blood creatures. So yeah, I get what you're saying. 441 00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:00,960 I've got a lot of videos of these dog men and they have orbs 442 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,240 around them all the time, and you can tell their orbs are not bugs 443 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,880 because they like the leaves up as they go by the you know, whatever 444 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,320 these little orbs are, and they'll go in the mouth and come out you 445 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,440 know whatever, or they'll travel from one dog man to another like it's it's 446 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,639 really strange. It is like and it's hard for me to show to show 447 00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:22,400 anybody if you're not here with me, you know, and me be able 448 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,960 to show you because you know Facebook, Facebook's image processors. You know, 449 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,840 it's garbage, like it destroys the quality of everything. M hm, Yes 450 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,280 it does, Mike. I've got a question for you from UFO Droom guy 451 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,480 and he wants to know do the dog men know we can see their eyes 452 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:50,559 shine? Uh? I'd say so, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd 453 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:55,000 say so, yeah, yeah, it does sound like the Yeah, I 454 00:34:55,039 --> 00:35:00,559 think so. Paul's got a question for you from Yeppy Ben Joe, and 455 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:07,079 their question is do they smell have a strong scent? I have? I 456 00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:09,480 you know, I have smelled like a wet dog smell or a wet deer 457 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:14,719 smell when they're when their presence are, when they're near, you can't smell. 458 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,119 They do have an odor? Uh you know, some do, some 459 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,000 don't, I would imagine, but yeah, I don't know if they're able 460 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:23,559 to wet off pheromones or I know that they can admit fear into the air. 461 00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:28,119 Now I know that for a fact. You know, before I ever 462 00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:30,440 seen one, the first encounter I had, it put fear into me, 463 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:35,239 Like you know, there was primal down like life and death, primal fear, 464 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,480 and it terrified me before I ever laid eyes on it. I don't 465 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:42,800 know, I couldn't explain it to you, but uh, that fear hit 466 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,440 me. And then I realized the forest was dead quiet, you know. 467 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,559 And then it all kind of happened in you know, in steps, like 468 00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:52,719 the fear hit me. Then I realized the forest was quiet, and then 469 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,599 I started hearing and seeing something coming around the logging road. So I mean, 470 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:04,199 yeah, they're able to they have they have a from what I've experienced, 471 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,840 they have a normal a wet dog smell or like a wet deer. 472 00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:12,159 I don't know if you ever killed a deer before, you know, in 473 00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,800 the morning you can smell the fir and stuff. So I mean that's the 474 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:22,239 smell that I've encountered. Mike. I've got a question for you from half 475 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,599 from twenty three, and they want to know, is it a good idea 476 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:34,800 to hunt dog men even though they obviously haven't harmed anyone yet. It's a 477 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:43,280 good question. I don't know you know, I don't know I've come I'm 478 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:49,000 probably I'm probably on the other side of the flip, the other side of 479 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,440 the coin. I come at everything from like, I've done the war thing, 480 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,559 I've done the gun carrying thing, so I've put everything down and I 481 00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:05,039 try to come at everything from an understanding standpoint, you know, without weapons, 482 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:10,920 without any kind of aggression, just straight respect and things to that effect. 483 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,199 So my answer would be, is probably a bad idea. I mean, 484 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:21,239 in general, I wouldn't want to wage war with these things, not 485 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,400 even a little bit, not even a little bit after I've seen what I've 486 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:32,480 seen. You know, you I don't even know what you'd need to And 487 00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:36,440 that's just if you're tracking one, then you know where one is. And 488 00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:40,519 for anybody who knows, you know when you see one. The best way 489 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:45,960 I can describe it, you remember the scene in Jurassic Park when the guys 490 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,199 looking at the velociraptor. All of a sudden he sees the velociraptor in front 491 00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:55,320 of him, and next thing, you know, these other two velociraptors pop 492 00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,400 up next to him, And that's pretty much how it was. Like, 493 00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:04,760 if you see one, you can pretty much guarantee you at least one or 494 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,159 two more SEU. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if that helps, 495 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:15,840 but that does help. That's a good the answer, Paul, I've got 496 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,079 a question for you from UFO Droom guy. He wants to know do you 497 00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:24,199 think dog men need something to sleep in or under as they are apex predators? 498 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,159 I do. I think they I have found, uh, I know 499 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:34,519 where a place is in the Daniel Boone that I wouldn't go back in. 500 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,760 But it's a it's a birdle. There's a rock that's about probably thirty feet 501 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,920 high, so it's a like a palace. It's a rock wall, you 502 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,480 know, that runs around the side of a ridge and it's got a crack 503 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:52,920 in if it's about three or four foot wide, and it runs the length 504 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,000 from the ground all the way to the top, and it goes way back 505 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,559 in there and then it turns left. You can't see, you know. 506 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,760 But there's dog tracks, large dog tracks everywhere coming in and out, I 507 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,159 mean so many that you can't discern what's coming and going, you know. 508 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,639 So and I have found, you know, structures on the ground and things 509 00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,639 like that. So yeah, I don't know whether they use them for breeding. 510 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:17,840 Purposes or to get out of the weather or to sleep or whatever they 511 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,960 use them for. But now I do know they do have places that they 512 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:28,679 go, you know. And and yeah, I believe they do have places 513 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:35,559 to escape bad weather and stuff. It really makes you wonder how much they're 514 00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:39,239 affected by bad weather. With those codes and being as big and powerful as 515 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,199 they are, it makes you wonder, like, for example, during a 516 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:50,320 blizzard, do they get cold. It just really makes you wonder. Even 517 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,360 like he was talking about earlier about hunting one or whatever, like I think 518 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,679 even if even if you were able to put one down, I don't think 519 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,440 you would ever get it out of the woods, you know, I don't. 520 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,559 I don't think with a swat team, I don't think you can get 521 00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,599 it out of the woods. You know. I My dog is smart enough 522 00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:13,840 to read people when they come to my house, so I would I would 523 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,920 think that these creatures can tell your intent when you're in their area. You 524 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,039 know, if you're in there to cause harms, they're going to be able 525 00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,920 to read that on you. I do believe that. I believe they know 526 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,920 what you're there for. They know that you're there before you do. And 527 00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:34,760 yeah, your intentions Unfortunately Mike, I've got a question for you from Gabriel 528 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,440 Hawkins, and Gabriel wants to know what if I want to go out and 529 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:57,760 try to find one. Uh oh, you're muted, okay, So I 530 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,679 mean maybe it'd be surprised, maybe you and at how close they are to 531 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:07,440 us. You know, that's been one of my biggest things that shocked me, 532 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:12,320 and then I decided to, you know, show people, and it's 533 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,320 been a hard task, right to show suburban sasquatch and suburban dog Man. 534 00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:23,400 Sometimes people don't want to believe it. Sometimes people don't you know, whatever, 535 00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:29,960 it's it's very uncomfortable for them or whatever. But my suggestion would be 536 00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:32,880 to do it. If you do want to start doing it, do it 537 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,320 humbly. You know. My approach is just kind of hey, universe, 538 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:44,360 hey Forrest, Hey, everything out here. I'm your humble student. You 539 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,639 know, I'm here on your terms, like, you know, just whatever 540 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:50,559 you want to give me, you want to give me, like I don't. 541 00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:54,400 I don't push anything. Like Paul is saying earlier, there's a little 542 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,480 bit of resistance. If there's a little bit of resistance or some kind of 543 00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:04,719 like whatever feels like, you know, a graul or a grunt or whatever 544 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,519 that if if something in you, because you'll know. And I know it 545 00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:12,880 sounds very Yoda like to be like, oh, you'll know, And somebody 546 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,679 said it to me when I started to like you'll know when something's going on, 547 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,440 and I'm like, all right, thanks for the help, you know, 548 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,360 but it's true. You do you kind of if you're tapped in and 549 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,239 like you make yourself one with the forest, if you will, you'll kind 550 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,960 of you'll know what's going on and when it's time to go or when it's 551 00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:40,119 time to pull back or buddy system. I guess I'm I'm a little I'm 552 00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:43,840 a little whacky. I go by myself all the time. But it's hard 553 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,320 to find people to go, you know, it really is. It's it's 554 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,960 tough to find people that want to go through this kind of stuff. So 555 00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:52,800 I just I just do it, you know, I just do it. 556 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,639 But I've never it's been a while for me though, that since I found 557 00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,559 something to that was very important, feel like it's a really important thing. 558 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,320 I feel like I have a lot of worth again, Like it's it's it's 559 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,079 interesting to me like I have uh, it's I have a passion again, 560 00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:14,679 you know, and it's it's uh, it's dangerous. So I'm not going 561 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,760 to front it's dangerous. Yeah, if you go if you go out there 562 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,960 with air pods in your ear and you out there stumbling around stuff, I 563 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,400 mean and you miss a warning or something, then yeah, I mean you 564 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,800 better be in tune with nature when you go out there. That's always a 565 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,039 good idea. I've got a question from dude from Texas. Hey, dude, 566 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,039 for both of you, I'm going to ask you this question first, 567 00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:40,599 Paul, then I'm going to have you take a shot at their mic. 568 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,719 The question is, do you believe these creatures migrate or use tunnel systems, 569 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:52,559 caves, et cetera. I believe. I believe the state of Kentucky is 570 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:59,679 granted limestone caves overhangs from one end to the other of the Daniel Blue National 571 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:05,119 Force is nothing but just just granted. You know, it's you would have 572 00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:08,760 to see it to really understand how rugged it really is. And I would 573 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,360 imagine that it runs well. I mean, I was a rock miner underground 574 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,199 for a long time. There's three seams of limestone that run from Michigan all 575 00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:21,239 the way to Mississippi. You know, all the way like from it goes 576 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,000 all the way down to a mile underground. So I mean, is it 577 00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:30,519 possible. I mean yeah, But I think I think they stick to an 578 00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:35,239 area. I don't think they migrate. I mean, I could be wrong 579 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,239 about that. It's just my opinion. I think that they do have places 580 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,480 that they go. I've seen I've seen places that look like, you know, 581 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,360 a permanent residence, you know, like that's where if I was a 582 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,079 dog man, I would stay there for sure. So I mean in this 583 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,559 way off the beaten trail to it would, yeah, it would. I 584 00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:57,239 would never go back in there, Like that place I was talking about earlier, 585 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,360 that that cracking that rock, I would never go back in there. 586 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,519 You know, I don't care how many people with me. Good idea. 587 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,599 How about you, Mike, what's your take on that? I had this 588 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:16,000 discussion today. Oddly enough, it's I don't think they migrated either. Do 589 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:22,880 they use tunnel systems? Possibly? Probably? You know the matt like he 590 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,519 was mentioning Mammoth caves is probably the biggest. I think it's the biggest cave 591 00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:31,280 system in the US. Right, we only know, and these guys are 592 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,559 so strong, I don't know. I can't wrap my head around how to 593 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:42,360 explain the strength of these guys and saspatihort dog man, so they couldn't take 594 00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:47,719 a boulder that would take you know, twenty men to move and just slide 595 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,840 it in front of something or slide it over a hole if they felt like 596 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,639 it. Right. But like you were saying, I don't think they migrated 597 00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:59,679 either. I think they find a place they like and that's where they stay 598 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,679 in that that's where it gets dangerous because if you're the one that stumbles into 599 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,000 that place, now they got to keep their eye on you, right, 600 00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:14,519 because you know where they're at. They don't want to give it up, 601 00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:17,559 right, They don't want to if you do bring other people back in, 602 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,960 if you bring in a team, they got, you know, things to 603 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,880 this effect. I think they're very very intelligent and if you stumble into their 604 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,679 area and now they have to keep an eye on you to see if their 605 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,199 home is safe, you know what I mean, which I'm sure entails following 606 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:38,199 you, following you home and keeping a close eye on you, probably more 607 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:44,760 often than you'd like it to be. Again, that's just kind of my 608 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,840 take on it, but it seems it seems to be across the board quite 609 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,559 a bit with other people I've spoken to as well. If most people knew 610 00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:58,960 how often they're followed by these guys and monitored, they probably lose their launch. 611 00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:02,760 Pull This question from baby Girl, I think is directed to you from 612 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,360 what you said about feeling sick. She wants to know, did you get 613 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,519 a sick feeling when you had all of your encounters. I didn't really feel 614 00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:17,599 sick, like a physical sick. It just was a it was I mean, 615 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,360 fear, like I said before, you know, and the encounters I've 616 00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,239 had on your show, like you know, it's like walking up on a 617 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,880 rattlesnake and being too close but you know, and realizing that it's right there. 618 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,239 You know, your knees get weak, and it's even more intense than 619 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,480 that, you know, having an encounter with one of these things. It's 620 00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:40,559 a And I don't think it's something that you see it and then feel it. 621 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,639 I think it's something they admit somehow. I don't know how. It's 622 00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:50,000 hard to explain. I mean, I believe there's there's what's it called infrasound 623 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:55,159 and all that, But whatever happened to me was it was. It was 624 00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:59,039 off the charts, it was just fear, like I can't I've never experienced 625 00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,760 it before that or since then. You know, even that bluff charge, 626 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,920 in that growl and all that stuff like it, whatever that was in that 627 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,719 first encounter, I had it. And looking back right now, had it 628 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,320 not done that at the pace I was walking, in the pace it was 629 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,400 walking, we would have ran into each of So I don't know if it 630 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,119 done that to stop me, because it was not concerned that I was there 631 00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:24,960 at all. It never even made eye contact with me or looked at me. 632 00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:29,719 So I mean, but I know it knew I was there, but 633 00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:35,079 it I mean, people don't realize how big eight foot is, you know 634 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,480 what I'm saying, eight foot, six hundred seve hundred pounds, Like you 635 00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:42,079 don't really understand how big that is until you see it. Yeah, you 636 00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:45,280 know, like that's it's massive, like it just it takes your breath. 637 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,199 And you know, I had a gun with me and shooting at it never 638 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,280 even crossed my mind. Never. Yeah, it's all fun and games until 639 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,559 something thats e feet tall is standing there steering at you, no doubt about 640 00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:05,840 that. This next question is from Sasquatch Confessions. First of all, they 641 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,519 want to say hello to me and also to you guys. And then their 642 00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:14,880 question, Mike, is are dogsmen often found in the same areas as sasquatch. 643 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:22,599 Yeah, good to see your brother sasquatch confessions. So yeah, I 644 00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:28,239 don't have a perfect answer for you, right, and I don't want to 645 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,679 make blanket statements. But from my experience, which is all I could speak 646 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:38,079 for, right is I call them cryptid community areas. And the best way 647 00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:42,559 I can describe it, I always look for analogies even when there aren't any 648 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:51,559 but the watering hole. Right in the African Safari show you might see on 649 00:49:51,760 --> 00:50:00,199 TV. The zebras and the leopards and the cheetahs and the lions and the 650 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,880 elephants, and everything's off doing their own thing everywhere right all the time, 651 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,960 but they all got to come to one place. It's just the watering hole. 652 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,239 Now, I think that there's some areas where these cryptids all kind of 653 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:22,039 link up more so than they do other places, like you know, sasquatch 654 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:25,719 and dog men are found more and now, whether you believe it's something as 655 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:31,079 simple as a watering hole, or it's something more advanced like a portal, 656 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:37,679 or you know, whatever the case, may be. That's what I've found 657 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,199 is that they tend to I think they tend to come together for more of 658 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:50,159 these community areas, if you will, well said before I throw this next 659 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,920 question that you, Paul, I just want to put something out there so 660 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,599 that everyone listening knows. On the third of February, it's a Saturday, 661 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,320 two saturdays from now, where a Wolf Might and David Bunch are going to 662 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:06,400 be coming on for a live stream on that Saturday to answer questions about their 663 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:12,079 experiences and basically tell us what they've been up to. And with Dave, 664 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,079 he's going to tell us about his Delamere Forest experiences as well, So yeah, 665 00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:20,480 please be sure not to miss that. All right, Paul, This 666 00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:23,559 next question is from you, a food droom guy, and they want to 667 00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:27,960 know, Paul, if you have a bluff charge, what should you do? 668 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:36,000 Run or hold your ground? Personally, I say hold your ground. 669 00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:40,239 I don't know if you run it'll activate some predator you know instinct they have. 670 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,840 I don't know. I think they're highly intelligent. I agree with what 671 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,840 Mike said earlier. I think you're liable to turn around and run into another 672 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:53,639 one, so you're better off to just feel the situation now as it happens, 673 00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:58,039 like the bluff charge that happened to me was I heard a bark from 674 00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:00,800 a dog that I that I know, you know, it was way too 675 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,239 big to be any domestic dog. Why I would have even thought that that's 676 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,360 what it was, I don't know, you know, I just it's the 677 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,480 first thing to hit my mind. All I could picture was what one of 678 00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:13,199 those slug mags would do to somebody's domestic dog. And I didn't want to 679 00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:15,599 have to explain that. So my first instinct was to try to climb that 680 00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:19,920 tree behind me. And the tree was like three inches four inches, you 681 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,440 know, like it would have never held me anyway. So you know, 682 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:29,480 after trying to do that, at every bark was closer and closer and closer, 683 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,840 you know, and it would have had to have come out into an 684 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,559 open field, you know, and come after it cleared the tree line, 685 00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,519 it would have to come about twenty feet to me, and it come right 686 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:42,480 to the edge of the tree line and dead stop and never made another sound. 687 00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:45,199 So I don't know if it had done that as a warning for me 688 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,880 to get out of there. I mean, that's what happened, you know, 689 00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:52,599 So I would imagine it got a kick out of what had done to 690 00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:53,719 me, because it really put the fear of God in me, and it 691 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,480 let me know that I had no idea what I was doing. Oh, 692 00:52:58,519 --> 00:53:04,400 I'm sure it did enjoy it. Unfortunately, it's pretty sick, it really 693 00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:07,599 is. This next question is more of a general question. It's from James 694 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,280 G. And he wants to know as anyone ever reported to dog me insiding 695 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,119 in Rhode Island. Yes, they have actually spoken with at least one eyewitness 696 00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:21,000 from Rhode Island to reported to dog mean encounter. It's kind of funny. 697 00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:23,559 That makes me think. I think it was like year two that I started 698 00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:28,719 daring shows. There is a guy who contacted me and he was kind of 699 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,920 thumbing his nose in a way. He was telling me how he lived in 700 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,199 Rhode Island and haha, I don't have to worry about any dog mean encounters 701 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,599 here. And I'm thinking to myself when he did that, should I let 702 00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:45,159 this guy know that I've spoken with people in Rhode Island before or not that 703 00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:47,840 have had dog mean encounters. I was kind of at the crossroads. I 704 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,000 was like, I got a big foot encounter there to report it to me? 705 00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:57,480 Once because else. Oh, I'm sorry. No, No, you're 706 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,119 good. I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm sorry, No, 707 00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:02,559 you're fine. No, just because of how small Rhode Island is, it's 708 00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:07,159 all too easy to think, Okay, yeah, there's nothing there, but 709 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:13,039 that's not the case. It's not well, I've got a question for you, 710 00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:15,079 Mike and Paul. We're going to throw this at you first, though, 711 00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:19,960 Mike from Darren Darren wants to know where did you guys say you were 712 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:30,320 from? Thanks me, yes, sir, you first, I'm from Long 713 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:35,519 Island, New York. So i live on the eastern end of Long Island. 714 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,719 Contrary to popular idealism that a lot of people think it's the city, 715 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:50,320 but we got quite a bit of woods out here. It is. It's 716 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,880 just you know, you're I think we have the one hundred thousand acres of 717 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,079 pine barrens, which is, you know, pretty much a lot of the 718 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:04,280 cryptid playground that I speak about with VIC and other shows. But yeah, 719 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,840 there's there's quite a bit of stuff going on out here. And then I 720 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:12,480 work my way up to the uh the Catskill Mountains in that at Roundecks and 721 00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,000 the surrounding areas. I do as well. But I'm from Long ISND, 722 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:22,360 New York. All right, how about you, Paul, Huh, if 723 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,880 you've ever heard of the half of McCoy feud, that's where I'm from. 724 00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:30,880 I'm from where that took place. Uh, it's I'm from Pott County, 725 00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:34,159 Kentucky. It's the if you look at them, if you look at a 726 00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:36,880 map and look at the state of Kentucky, it comes to a little point 727 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000 on the east side. I'm from right there. And in that point, 728 00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:44,679 I'm five minutes from Mate one, West Virginia, you know, and Williamson, 729 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,079 and you know Logan and Charleston. So yeah, I'm from right I'm 730 00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:52,280 from as far east as you can go in the state of Kentucky, right 731 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,360 in the middle of the Appalachian Mountains. You are right up against them, 732 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,840 that you are. I've got more of a general question again that popped up 733 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:07,760 from Key from sixteen seventy five, and their question is are there any credible 734 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:13,280 research groups in Michigan, Thank you, Keith. And the answer is yes, 735 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,320 But unfortunately I don't know of any there. I guarantee you there are 736 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,239 ones there, but yeah, as far as being able to name one, 737 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,960 then yeah, I can't do that. Unfortunately. Well, this next question 738 00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:29,800 is from Corey Cole. I'm gonna throw this one at you, Mike, 739 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:35,119 and Corey's question is have you ever heard of them mimicking human language sounds? 740 00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:42,599 Almost always? Almost always? And that's one of my favorite reasons is to 741 00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:45,239 go up to these different areas up in the mountains and things, because I 742 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:54,079 get to hear the you know, typical the typical audio that you hear about 743 00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:01,880 in other people's encounters. But where that down here in the suburbs, they 744 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:07,320 mimic everything. I mean, you name it, they mimic it. And 745 00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:16,159 it is just it's just the littlest bit off brand, like just the tiniest 746 00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:22,159 little bit off brand, and if you're not really paying attention, you wouldn't 747 00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:29,880 notice. You just wouldn't notice the difference. We have sirens that go off 748 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,440 for what would be like a tornado siren. In some places. We have 749 00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:39,719 it for volunteer firefighters. They use that. They will communicate a lot of 750 00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:50,159 times when when the big planes go over. I've heard cat fights obviously, 751 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:55,000 dogs barking, yeah, thinks to that effect. Brett Harley's reving is a 752 00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,320 big one, you know, trying to you know, mimicing like motor bikes. 753 00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:05,920 That's a big one. That's a big one. Sure would be hard 754 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,920 to get us hearing that. I mean where I'm from in the mountains, 755 00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:13,280 I heard growing up, if you hear something call your name from the woods, 756 00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:16,159 know you didn't. If you see something, no you didn't. You 757 00:58:16,199 --> 00:58:21,199 know, if you hear whistling something whistling, no you didn't hear it. 758 00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:23,639 You know. Just basically that's what I heard growing up. That's what I 759 00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:28,079 was always told by my grandparents. And you know, if you hear something, 760 00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:30,920 because I don't know what it is, I don't know if this dog 761 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,559 man or Bigfoot, I always lean toward it being Bigfoot. That would, 762 00:58:34,679 --> 00:58:37,760 you know, mimic someone if they hear someone hollering someone's name. You know, 763 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,320 I don't know if they know that that's what they're doing, or if 764 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,000 they're just doing it because they heard it somewhere, or but yeah, they 765 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,480 I've heard lots of stories of in the Appalachian Mountains of things hollering for while 766 00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:52,599 you're out in the middle of nowhere in the woods. You know, up 767 00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:55,920 on the mountain, you'll hear something all of your name, or you'll hear 768 00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,079 something or help or whatever. You know, you just you didn't hear it 769 00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:05,079 basically, So, like I said, that'd be awfully hard to get used 770 00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:13,039 to. It really would. Got a general question from Josie Meine Kuhn, 771 00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:17,239 and her question is they're encounters of dog mean experiences here in New Zealand. 772 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,960 Are you aware of that or are you aware of these? And yes, 773 00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:24,039 I am. I've heard about them before. They don't seem to come out 774 00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:28,880 all that often, but yeah, I've heard about it. It happens, 775 00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:35,599 all right. The next question is for you, Mike from dog Me and 776 00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:38,719 Tpee Hunting, and their question is, Mike, do you get the feeling 777 00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:50,519 of dread, almost ill intent every time one sees you? Oh, I'm 778 00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:52,800 sure they see me a lot more than I know. You know what I 779 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,159 mean. For every time that I see one, I'm sure one has seen 780 00:59:58,199 --> 01:00:02,880 me, don't you know? You take your guess, take your guess probably 781 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:07,800 one hundred, two hundred and three hundred times your knows. But I don't 782 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:14,639 necessarily get that feeling of dread like that some people say. I also have 783 01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:20,480 learned to put this kind of not not kind of I've learned to put this 784 01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:25,599 like protective layering over me and it's very hard to explain. I've gone through 785 01:00:25,679 --> 01:00:31,639 many different, uh sit downs with many different type of indigenous people, different 786 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:37,840 spiritual people, different, a lot of different I've traveled a lot of different 787 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:43,559 roads and had a lot of different sit downs with people far for more knowledgeable 788 01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:46,320 than me. I'm a new boot and I just want to soak it all 789 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:52,000 in like a sponge and do things as respectably and safely as possible. Hopefully 790 01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:54,480 one day, you know, when it's all said and done, there'll be 791 01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:59,920 something to take from it, you know. But I I do. I 792 01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:02,599 know what you mean by the feeling of dread, but i'd say, uh, 793 01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:06,440 maybe I don't want to say I moved past that because I don't want 794 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,079 to drinx myself. But it's been a while since it's happened. Yeah, 795 01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:16,039 thank goodness for that. The next questions or I guess it's more of a 796 01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:22,360 comment. It's directed towards you, Paul from Gray Tall Cloud and their comment 797 01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:24,639 is, Paul, I know exactly what you're saying about video. It's a 798 01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:30,519 blurring effect, but they're everywhere behind it and other beings. Yeah, it's 799 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:37,199 I found that when you're recording if it's very very strange it's the strangest thing 800 01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:42,760 that I mean, I don't even I'll tell you, but it really don't 801 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,760 make any sense. But when you're recording, when you go to pan left 802 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:51,840 or right and the picture gets blurry, their faces will show up clear. 803 01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:54,760 And I'm not talking about these flesh and blood. I'm talking about whatever supernatural 804 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,920 side like you know, I don't know what it is, but their faces 805 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,480 will show up clear in the blur, and then when and then when the 806 01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:08,039 picture gets clear, their faces will be blurry. You know, I don't 807 01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:10,960 know. It doesn't make any sense to me, It really doesn't. But 808 01:02:12,159 --> 01:02:15,559 uh, I mean, it's that's what I'm saying. Like it goes in 809 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:19,519 a direction that I really hate to even talk. I'll talk to you. 810 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,840 Let's talk more later a little bit, right, Yeah, both if you're 811 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:29,199 in a wealth of information, so I'm glad you're going to do that well. 812 01:02:29,239 --> 01:02:31,000 And you know, like he was saying, it's it's everything I know 813 01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:37,159 is trial and error. Like you know, it's like that bluff charge and 814 01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:40,039 that growl, like I know that they will provide a warning, you know, 815 01:02:40,239 --> 01:02:44,960 so you better, uh, you just better if you're out there looking 816 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,039 for a dog man or trying to have an encounter or doing research or whatever 817 01:02:47,079 --> 01:02:52,320 you're doing. Just pay attention and don't miss you know, I don't know, 818 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,480 maybe they'll throw something at you, or I've heard them stomp, run 819 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,639 and break things, you know, like I heard when it kept blowing, 820 01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:00,239 like like you walk up on it, Like if you've been there hunting and 821 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,840 had a deer blow at you, like it sees you. That's its way 822 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,440 of letting you know, haha, I see you. It'll blow at you 823 01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:09,079 and then run off, you know, yeah, like a big buck wheel. 824 01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:13,880 Well that's what whatever this was was doing that. But it was stomping 825 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,920 back and forth from left to right right out of my sight on the other 826 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:20,719 side of a creek. It was stomping and breaking limbs and throwing stuff, 827 01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:22,679 and it was really mad that I was there. You know. This was 828 01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:27,119 the same day I got grouled at and when it growled, it growled from 829 01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:30,840 less than twenty feet away from you, and I didn't see it, and 830 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,480 I didn't run. I just backed up, you know, I pulled my 831 01:03:32,519 --> 01:03:36,480 firearm and just stood there. You know, I backed up. I had 832 01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:39,519 somebody with me, and I backed up about twenty feet thirty feet and just 833 01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:44,880 stood there and it never it never did anything else other than you know, 834 01:03:45,239 --> 01:03:49,280 stomp around and break stuff right out of sight. So yeah, they'll let 835 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,559 you know if you're unwelcome where you're at. Just don't you know, I 836 01:03:53,639 --> 01:03:57,960 just don't push your luck. I guess if they don't want your round, 837 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,079 they're definitely good to getting the point across, no doubt about that. Yeah. 838 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,280 Got a question for both of you from baby Girl, and her question 839 01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:14,960 is do dog can hunt other cryptids? Mike please go first. I have 840 01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:24,719 no idea. I really, I don't have any idea if they I don't 841 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,760 know if there's some stuff out there smaller than them, like cryptid wise, 842 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,559 I don't. I don't see why anything would be off the menu, you 843 01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:36,360 know, if it's if it makes sense for them to kill it, I 844 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:43,239 don't see why they wouldn't do it. They are built for they are built 845 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,559 for it. They're built for you know. I hate to be an Italian 846 01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:49,599 American right now, but they're built for whack and whatever they want to whack, 847 01:04:49,679 --> 01:04:51,480 you know what I mean. If they want to take you out, 848 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,360 they're going to take you out. And that's you know, and that's where 849 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:01,400 the logic comes in. They're so they seem like they're so sensible about what 850 01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:06,800 moves they make, you know what I mean? I think that I think 851 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:12,239 if they have young with them, you know, uh, I think they 852 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:16,840 will kill whatever a bear. And then I've heard I've heard encounters of up 853 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:24,519 in Alaska and Canada, Uh, grizzly bears being dug up while they're hibernating 854 01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:28,480 and killed, not eating, just killed and left. Now, what could 855 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,280 do that? What's gonna dig a grizzly bear out of a cave and kill 856 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,159 it and leave it? Lamb not just one but multi. Yeah, grizzlies 857 01:05:35,159 --> 01:05:40,880 are massives. That's a good point. I've said it before about dog men 858 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,440 killing grizzlies, and there are a couple of people that took pretty a pretty 859 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,880 big amount of exception to that. They thought it was crazy to put it 860 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,840 out there that a dog man could kill a grizzly. But when you think 861 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,400 about how big and powerful these guys are, Yeah, once they're above a 862 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,440 certain size, I don't think a grizzly is going to pose a prop that 863 01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:06,920 well I sorry, go ahead, Well no, that that that photo that 864 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:14,119 you have vic on uh one of your avatar your merch you know what I 865 01:06:14,119 --> 01:06:18,440 mean with the woman that's holding the bear down. Yeah, Like that's like 866 01:06:18,719 --> 01:06:26,760 very accurate. Like I love that one because to me, that's it depicts 867 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,159 fact. You know what I mean, it depicts fact. Well, I 868 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,320 set a camera trap up me and some other guys did in the Daniel boone 869 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,960 where we hung a rack of ribs in between two trees and put some fish 870 01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:42,320 up, and we left trail cameras down there for two weeks. Unfortunately, 871 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,440 the very next morning after we left, a big black bear came in. 872 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,639 And it's the biggest black beard that I've ever seen in my life. I 873 01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:50,679 mean, I'll send I'll show you pictures of it. I'll send them to 874 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,000 VIC and I'll send them to you, and I think I don't know if 875 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,920 i'll post them in the group I think I have. But it's at least 876 01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:01,079 seven eight feet tall, just a beautiful on it a mass of six hundred, 877 01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:05,239 seven hundred pound black bear. And you know the dog man that I 878 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:11,360 seen still dwarfed. You know, it dwarfed that bear, So I mean, 879 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,840 yeah, I don't. And we hung those ribs ten feet in the 880 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,079 air and that bear stood on its on its tin legs and retch up with 881 01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:28,760 its mouth and grab those ribs. So yeah, wow, yikes, that's 882 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,519 no joke. Well, this next question is from Key from sixteen seventy five, 883 01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:35,920 Paul, and I think it's corrected at you. Their question is on 884 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,639 the bluff charges. Were they on two feet? Are all fours? How 885 01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:45,320 close do they? I can't say for sure, Will, I would like 886 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,119 to think it was on two feet. It's what it sounded like to me. 887 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,800 Just you know, when I first heard it, I thought it was 888 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,480 a domestic dog because I was in a nature preserve. There is a high 889 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,559 con trailer. It's not a very well you know known, it's not well 890 01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:04,880 known by people, you know, just very few serious hikers know about it. 891 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:11,880 And uh it's near the Camp Nelson Cemetery, so uh yeah, it 892 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,680 it sounded to me like two legs toward the end of the bluff charge as 893 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:20,399 it got closer to me. And I just don't see a domestic dog stop 894 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:25,000 and having the intelligence to stop and not coming on out and attack. And 895 01:08:25,119 --> 01:08:28,159 the way it sounded like it was coming to heat, you know, it 896 01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:31,880 was on its way to me for sure. I don't think a domestic dog 897 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,479 would have made all that noise doing that either. No, no, I 898 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,520 don't. I don't even know why I thought that'd be honestly, like, 899 01:08:39,239 --> 01:08:42,399 it just was. Yeah, I mean I guess your mind does that. 900 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,079 I don't know, Oh, of course. Yeah, if you're an experience 901 01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:49,279 like if you're in an experience like that, you're going to look for for 902 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:56,880 answers that aren't much. Yeah, that's right. So it's only natural that 903 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,800 you thought that. Well, Mike, I've got a question for you. 904 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:04,399 For Stephen Jackson and Steven's question is why would you look for one? I 905 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:11,359 don't know. I mean, here's here's the That's a beautiful question, to 906 01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:16,640 be honest with you, and it's a very loaded question. I never wanted 907 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,520 anything to do with him after after I first bumped into them, I didn't 908 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:28,039 want anything to do with him ever again. But after time I kept I 909 01:09:28,119 --> 01:09:30,880 kept everything, even even as much as as much stuff as went down, 910 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,079 I kept a lot of it away from people. I just basically said I 911 01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:39,199 took I took a little hiatus. That's why I haven't been around. Blah 912 01:09:39,239 --> 01:09:43,880 blah blah blah blah. You know, I just kind of thrust it under 913 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,560 the rug. I didn't really want to talk about it. I just wanted 914 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,920 to bury it and move on and kind of forget about it, and uh 915 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,800 and stay away from Hopefully they'll stay away from me and I'll stay away from 916 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:58,840 it. But it didn't really work out that way. You know, dog 917 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:05,600 Man started to be come more prominent in you know, conversation everywhere. You 918 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,960 know, it kept popping up and popping up and popping up, and people 919 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:15,199 were talking about and I started to realize I wasn't the only one that went 920 01:10:15,279 --> 01:10:20,319 through hell, and I realized that I was still dwelling with it. So 921 01:10:23,079 --> 01:10:26,319 I'll put it to you like this, I don't go looking for dog men 922 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:31,920 necessarily. I know it's there. I put myself out there for whatever's out 923 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:36,000 there, whatever the case may be, whether it's dog Man, whether it's 924 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:44,000 Sasquatch, whether it's now. It's a whole different relationship, a whole different 925 01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:48,600 I have a whole different standpoint on the two. But the dog Man thing 926 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:53,279 is more or less like I guess, a little side gig if you will, 927 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,680 right, I had to do it to work through my own trauma, 928 01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,920 and I also want to do it a little bit to learn if I can 929 01:11:01,039 --> 01:11:06,119 learn, Like I feel like it's my duty to kind of to kind of 930 01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:10,960 get what I could get out of it and see if there's something there that 931 01:11:11,039 --> 01:11:15,880 might help the next person, you know what I mean. And that's really 932 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,520 the only reason, honestly, I don't have I stand where VIC stands like 933 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,479 I don't really like them at all, I do. I don't really mean 934 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,640 it. If I can interrupt it. It took something from you, yeah, 935 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,600 yeah, and it did. You know, it did me the same 936 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:31,720 way. It took something from me, and I've been looking to get it 937 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,960 back. I guess I don't know. That's why I said I would do 938 01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:40,359 this regardless whether there was ever a podcast or a Facebook group or anything, 939 01:11:40,359 --> 01:11:43,960 I would still be doing what I'm doing because it did take something from me. 940 01:11:44,279 --> 01:11:46,640 Well, you're right in your way, right. So at first I 941 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,479 avoided that whole spot where it happened. But now every time I go back, 942 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,399 I get back a little piece of me. Every time I go back 943 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,640 in there and I and I walk back out, okay, and I go 944 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,640 back in there and things don't happen. I even probably sent Vic a video 945 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,880 once when I was there, like look, Vic, this is it. 946 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,319 And I was like shaking, like this is the spot, like you know, 947 01:12:06,399 --> 01:12:11,640 and I don't I don't remember back to if we talked about it after 948 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,479 and not, but like it's just I've come a long way since then now, 949 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,039 like I can you know, I can breathe easier in there, like 950 01:12:19,119 --> 01:12:23,039 and it's not to say to let your guard down, but like that that 951 01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:25,439 is a good way to put it. Something was taken from me, and 952 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,920 I guess I just kind of want to get it back and an understanding. 953 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,079 And you know, I took people out with me, like I had somebody 954 01:12:31,119 --> 01:12:33,720 with me when I got crowded enter and after we got back to the house, 955 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,039 that guy looked at me and said, you know what, I'm gona 956 01:12:36,039 --> 01:12:39,319 be honest at heat, I thought you were crazy. You know what a 957 01:12:39,359 --> 01:12:45,119 good stealing that was for him? You know, you know he he I 958 01:12:45,159 --> 01:12:47,199 took him and showed him, you know, like there's a difference in telling 959 01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:50,560 someone a story and then showing him, you know what I'm saying, like 960 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,199 and to have somebody say, you know, I thought you were crazy. 961 01:12:54,279 --> 01:12:59,399 But man, well like some I was trying to say something. The last 962 01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:01,840 person I had to out, she's sitting right next to me. I told 963 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,600 her, I says, I said, watch when it's when when the wild 964 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,399 dogs you know, the pack of wolves start to rally around us, and 965 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:15,359 we're all angow right in the suburbs. And there's no coyote here, there's 966 01:13:15,399 --> 01:13:17,920 no whatever, wild dogs, there's no wolves, right, but you can 967 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,800 hear them. You can hear them. They start to make their way in, 968 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:26,960 like they know you're there for miles off. God knows how, but 969 01:13:27,079 --> 01:13:31,359 you can hear them making their way in. And like, I don't know 970 01:13:31,359 --> 01:13:34,319 if you could relate to this ball, but it's like you can hear them 971 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:40,800 making these bounds like and and communicating with each other. And God knows where 972 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,239 they're coming from, right, Like I don't know, it sounds like they're 973 01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:48,640 coming from, you know, in town somewhere. But like it's it's imploding 974 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:53,760 on you. It's so it's so weird, and then eventually it just stops, 975 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,640 like it just stops when it gets to you. And and and luck 976 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,920 you said a big foot and dog man, like I view it the same 977 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:05,960 way. Like to me, bigfoot is it's like researching whether my car is 978 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:11,960 in the driveway. You know, it's that we know about There's a lot 979 01:14:12,039 --> 01:14:16,640 known about Bigfoot, you know. Uh, it's a very dysfunctional. I 980 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:21,920 mean, it's a very dysfunctional group of people. Uh, the Bigfoot community 981 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:27,560 is very Uh. You can't mix the communities. And that's why you know. 982 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,479 In my group, I don't allow any of that. It's strictly dog 983 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,039 man. I don't I don't allow Bigfoot content, UFO content and all that 984 01:14:34,079 --> 01:14:38,439 stuff. I just try to keep it dog man because nobody cares about what 985 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:42,680 each other's doing. It really is a shame and has to be that way, 986 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:47,119 but and it is. It is the way you just laid it out. 987 01:14:47,319 --> 01:14:50,720 Unfortunately, there's always been a lot of friction between the two camps. 988 01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:55,279 Speaking of Bigfoot, there are a lot of people who listen to dog Men 989 01:14:55,399 --> 01:14:59,880 Encounters. You were tried and true Sasquatch fans, right, I should say 990 01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:04,279 run through Sasquatch fans. If you are, then I'll just want to bring 991 01:15:04,319 --> 01:15:10,359 it to your attention. I've got a podcast that's very similar to Dogman Encounters, 992 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:15,399 except it focuses on Bigfoot and I don't ask any questions of guests. 993 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,319 There's no back and forth. If you want to just PLoP down and listen 994 01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:27,640 to you Sasquatch sighting after Sasquatch sighting shared by the actual eyewitnesses, don't forget 995 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,479 to check out my other show. It's called My Bigfoot Sighting. The best 996 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:34,079 way to listen to it is on your favorite podcast app, just like Dogman 997 01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:38,319 Encounters or any of the other shows. But if you want to check out 998 01:15:38,319 --> 01:15:41,880 the YouTube version of the show, then it is on YouTube. Again. 999 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,359 The name of the show is My Bigfoot Sighting. And yeah, if you're 1000 01:15:45,359 --> 01:15:50,279 interested in Sasquatch Encounters, I think you should check it out. Well, 1001 01:15:50,319 --> 01:15:57,000 this next question is for you. I think this is for you Paul from 1002 01:15:57,119 --> 01:16:00,720 Ronald Wood. And Ronald's question is why would they look inquisitive at you or 1003 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:08,119 bewildered? I don't know. I don't really know what inquisitive. What do 1004 01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:14,039 you mean? Why would they why would they be intrigued with us? Or 1005 01:16:14,039 --> 01:16:16,680 whatever? I think that's what he wants to know. I don't know. 1006 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:23,399 I just know that some of the best footage that I've got, which I've 1007 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:28,199 seen in real time while I was at recording, was because I decided to 1008 01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:33,600 stop and record a tree line that was overlooking kids and people playing and talking 1009 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:38,720 and laughing and stuff. I watched that tree line and I don't know why 1010 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,399 they want to watch us. I don't know what it is. And especially 1011 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,039 kids. They I don't know if it's malicious, I don't know if it's 1012 01:16:46,079 --> 01:16:49,439 just intrigued. I don't know what it is, but they really do like 1013 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:56,079 watching people. It's safe to say that we're there a TV almost. I 1014 01:16:56,079 --> 01:17:00,159 mean, yeah, yeah, it seems that way. Mike, what a 1015 01:17:00,279 --> 01:17:03,520 question for you from Stephen Jackson And Stephen wants to know do you think dogmen 1016 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:10,720 are part of the four to one once? Oh? Yeah, most likely, 1017 01:17:11,399 --> 01:17:15,760 you know, most likely. It's hard to say. I guess right, 1018 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:25,000 But there's just I've been in a situation where I've gotten stuck in a 1019 01:17:25,039 --> 01:17:30,840 place where I couldn't get out of and there was nothing involved. There was 1020 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,680 no cryptid involved, there was no nothing. It was just me in a 1021 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,199 place where no matter which way I went, I could not get out of 1022 01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:46,720 it. I walked forward and everything was the same. And then I turned 1023 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,680 around three sixty or one eighty right, sorry, and went the other way. 1024 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:56,039 And I was looking at everything the same way. And I did that 1025 01:17:56,119 --> 01:17:59,279 a couple of times, and I mean, I'm not looking at the backside 1026 01:17:59,319 --> 01:18:01,720 of things. I'm looking looking at it the same way. And then I 1027 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,479 stepped off the trail. I started to panic and really freak out, and 1028 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:10,479 I'm starting to get frustrated and mad. I'm losing my cool. I started 1029 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:15,319 walking off trail north to south, and same things happening no matter what, 1030 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,560 no matter which way I went, I could not undo this. Right. 1031 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:23,520 Alls I knew was at the edge of this little bubble or whatever I was 1032 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:30,079 in was this water, this giant, giant lake. And I dropped on 1033 01:18:30,119 --> 01:18:33,840 my knees and I put everything in there. Any long story short, I 1034 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,600 got in that water. As soon as I hit that water, I went 1035 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:41,880 down. I sunk like a rock. When I came back up, it 1036 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:48,399 was like three birds chirping, people talk and whatever, because I could hear 1037 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:56,079 people across the water talking regular and I was screaming at them, I mean 1038 01:18:57,399 --> 01:19:02,119 belting, screaming, and I'm like frantically, like damn near tears crying because 1039 01:19:02,119 --> 01:19:04,960 they can't hear me. And I'm like, they're gonna save me. I'm 1040 01:19:05,079 --> 01:19:10,479 eight miles in, dead, tired, no water, no food, I'm 1041 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:15,880 stranded whatever. So long story short, I could have got stuck in there. 1042 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,239 Maybe I don't know. You know, so I don't know what four 1043 01:19:17,279 --> 01:19:21,520 on one missing people are sometimes, but I think there's a lot, a 1044 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:30,680 lot of stuff out there that goes on that that we can't really always you 1045 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,800 know, check a box on or put in a box for lack of better 1046 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:38,560 words. But Short dog Man could be definitely part of it. When hear 1047 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,439 about people experiencing things like that, it really makes you one what's behind it? 1048 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:47,439 It's like a Bermuda triangle type phenomenon or something. There was a guy 1049 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:53,880 David Blobis was talking about a guy two guys who were riding box bicycles through 1050 01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:57,439 the mountains on trails, and I guess he came up on his frame and 1051 01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,840 his friend was stripping off all his clothes and he's like, what do you 1052 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,159 do? He's like, I'm going to jump in that lake over there or 1053 01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:04,800 that creek or whatever. You're like, what are you talking about? What 1054 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:09,319 creek? And his friends like that creek right there? He said, Man, 1055 01:20:09,359 --> 01:20:12,840 that's a wolf ground at you you know what I'm saying. There was 1056 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,399 no creek there, so I mean, yeah, I don't. I don't. 1057 01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:19,199 You just never know what you're going to walk into a portal or you 1058 01:20:19,239 --> 01:20:24,159 know, I don't know. I've heard also people sticking their legs in portals 1059 01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:28,479 and stuff while they're alcutting then their leg disappearing. You know. Ew, 1060 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:33,319 that's scary. That's really scary. If you've had a dog mean encounter, 1061 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,199 would like to speak with me, whether I'm private or on the show, 1062 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:42,079 please go to Dogmanecounters dot com and let me know. Of course, like 1063 01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:45,640 I've said on many occasions, there's never any pressure to come on and do 1064 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,079 a show. If you want to just talk in private so that no one 1065 01:20:48,079 --> 01:20:53,600 else is ever going to know about your experience, that's doable. Like I 1066 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,880 said, please just go to Dogmancounters dot com and reach out to me smith 1067 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,199 a reporting. I'll be in contact with you to get that set up, 1068 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,399 all right. The next question is for you, Paul, and it's from 1069 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:11,840 Keith Glidewell, and Keith's question is what do you think is holding Dogman back 1070 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:17,199 from killing? I mean this like this is kind of a loaded question too. 1071 01:21:17,279 --> 01:21:20,800 I mean, this is kind of I guess on everybody's beliefs, and 1072 01:21:23,119 --> 01:21:26,359 it's hard for me to see some of the things I've seen doing this research, 1073 01:21:26,399 --> 01:21:30,000 and you know, not think that there's a you know, there's a 1074 01:21:30,039 --> 01:21:31,880 spiritual side to it where I mean, if you want to call it spiritual, 1075 01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,039 supernatural, whatever, you can call it. So, I mean, 1076 01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:41,079 it's kind of brought me closer to my religion and my beliefs and stuff. 1077 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,079 And just like what Mike's in the beginning, I think they know what follows 1078 01:21:45,239 --> 01:21:48,159 one of us going missing. You know, they don't want thirty forty one 1079 01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:54,000 hundred people trumping around in their home. And you know, you know, 1080 01:21:54,039 --> 01:21:57,159 there's a bunch of reasons. Really, you know, there could be something 1081 01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,720 that's restraining them from doing it. There could be an unspoken rule, you 1082 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,079 know, or it could be them just knowing what follows a human going missing. 1083 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,560 You raised some really good points. It's sure would be nice if we 1084 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,720 knew definitively the answer to a lot of these questions. But I guess all 1085 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,560 we can do is yes, Mike, I've got a question for you from 1086 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,399 sery Lee, and she wants to know, would you rather run into a 1087 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:32,199 mad dog me in or Matt Sasquatch. Oh Man, I don't know. 1088 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:42,880 Neither one, I guess, but that Sasquatch a mad Sasquatch, I don't 1089 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:50,920 know. Yeah, both are knowing situations. Yeah, definitely not good at 1090 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,800 all. Well, I've got one more question I'm going to put out there 1091 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,159 for you, and this is for Paul from Joe Koutzman, and Joe's question 1092 01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:03,199 is, do you believe the younger puffs are inherently vicious towards humans or does 1093 01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:10,560 that behavior come from the appearance. I don't think that they're vicious. I 1094 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:15,439 think they I think they're diverse, just like we are. I think you 1095 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,119 could run up a little of the bad attitude, or its mom could have 1096 01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:21,560 been killed or whatever, you know, anything could have been shot at before. 1097 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,159 I think it just depends on it's like that it's lived. You know, 1098 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,800 it's going to dictate how it raises it's young and what it teaches it's 1099 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:36,159 young about us, you know, like you know, Bigfoot, for example, 1100 01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:41,920 will stack rocks in a creek in a manner that really just it shocks 1101 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,479 people. They'll stop and get out and look at these rocks they stacked them. 1102 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,079 While they're doing that, big puts on the hillside showing it's young. 1103 01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:51,079 The inside of the car, what you look like, how you move, 1104 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,960 you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, I think the intelligence 1105 01:23:55,960 --> 01:24:00,279 that these creatures have are just I think they even we give them, it's 1106 01:24:00,319 --> 01:24:01,479 more than we even give them credit for. I believe, you know, 1107 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,359 and I think there is some probably dumb ones too, you know, Like 1108 01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:08,800 I've seen some in pictures that look, you know, kind of iffy. 1109 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,319 But I think they you know, and they're not all you know, he'd 1110 01:24:13,359 --> 01:24:16,239 foot tall with big muscles holding the LBL sign with red eyes. That's just 1111 01:24:16,279 --> 01:24:20,680 not how it goes, you know. They're just they're very diverse. I've 1112 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:25,399 seen really skinny ones that look really bad, and I've seen some really big 1113 01:24:25,399 --> 01:24:30,640 ones. So I mean, you just never know. Just imagine there's a 1114 01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:36,199 sasquatch running out there that are jerks. Yeah yeah, that's not a good 1115 01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:44,560 thought at all, hitting your mailbox. Yeah yeah, well they don't need 1116 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:50,199 it bad. That makes it even worse or something that's right. Well, 1117 01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:53,920 it's almost time for us to get out if you're a gentleman, but before 1118 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,279 we do, you want to take some time to allow you to promote your 1119 01:24:57,359 --> 01:25:00,760 shows, your YouTube channels and any project exit you're working on, anything that 1120 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:04,880 you want to put out there and promote. Please do Mike, please go 1121 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:15,359 first. Uh yeah, I mean I do most of my posting on Long 1122 01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:21,359 Island Bigfoot on YouTube pretty much. I just do a lot of interactive live 1123 01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:26,840 streams. I try to bring people out into the field if there's signal, 1124 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,640 if not, I try to film as much as I can. I do 1125 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,960 my own personal side of things too, but it is over. I think 1126 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:41,199 two thousand videos on there of just me on the field, and you know, 1127 01:25:41,319 --> 01:25:45,439 if anyone's ever interested in going, we try to schedule that too, 1128 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,079 which is too easy. I mean, if you've got the time, I'm 1129 01:25:49,079 --> 01:25:57,000 always out there. I think we're going to going up into the mountains in 1130 01:25:57,079 --> 01:26:00,359 a couple of days. I don't know. And yeah, we were just 1131 01:26:00,399 --> 01:26:03,880 out of camp here on mon Talk doing an expedition out there with a couple 1132 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,199 of people. I think we're going up to the mountains too, in a 1133 01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:11,920 couple of days. I can't keep track, but yeah, yeah, if 1134 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,720 you want to keep up, come by it. In case you haven't notice, 1135 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,880 both these guys they don't let any grass grow under their feet. They 1136 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:25,840 stay ridiculously busy. They're always out there researching all the time. And I 1137 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,680 forgot to ask the most important question. Does Elena want to say hello? 1138 01:26:31,079 --> 01:26:34,800 Do you want to say I'll tell you what, Guys, We're going to 1139 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:42,560 put this show on pause until Lena says hi to us. That's funny. 1140 01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,840 My girlfriend's been sitting here with me. Do okay, she was in our 1141 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,439 bathroom. Sorry to put on the spot. Well, no, I'm not. 1142 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,279 Paul. Do you want to let your girlfriend say hello? We'd love 1143 01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:05,039 to hear from her. We say hello, honey, hey guys, thanks 1144 01:27:05,039 --> 01:27:11,359 for keeping Paul inline for us. Yeah. Yeah, she's sitting here listening 1145 01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,239 to her listening to her phone, got her earbuds and listening to us. 1146 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,119 Because I've got my hair body. She can't hear what we're She's been sitting 1147 01:27:17,119 --> 01:27:21,800 there with hers on mute for the past two hours. Yeah, I'm sure 1148 01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,840 keeping Paul online is a full time job. So I feel for you. 1149 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:31,079 Yeah, she's pregnant. Now, she's got three months pregnant. Congratulations, 1150 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,720 were happy. But it's a boy. Finally I got three girls. I'm 1151 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:41,760 happy it's a boy finally. No, I understand, Well, Paul, 1152 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,640 why don't you promote your channel and any of the projects that you're working on. 1153 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,520 I mean, you know, I don't. I don't share any evidence 1154 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,840 or anything outside of my group. You know, I've got some good friends, 1155 01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:58,000 like the dude from Texas and Shane you know who got the you know 1156 01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,680 like that whoever that person was early to ask about a group in Michigan. 1157 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:05,039 I recommend if you can't find a good serious group, start your own group, 1158 01:28:05,279 --> 01:28:12,159 you know, and people will join it if if at the evidence and 1159 01:28:12,199 --> 01:28:15,560 the stuff you're sharing, and you know, I mean I don't. I 1160 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:16,720 don't. Really there's groups out there. If you want to see pictures of 1161 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,079 wherewolves, some pinterests and stuff. I mean, there's groups for that, 1162 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:24,640 you know. But I try to keep everything, you know, evidence based. 1163 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,199 Every picture is not going to be crystal clear. If that's what you 1164 01:28:27,319 --> 01:28:30,039 want, then I'm sorry. Uh, but you know, I don't share 1165 01:28:30,039 --> 01:28:33,840 outside my group because I don't really have time to argue with people and stuff. 1166 01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:40,640 But I'll let anybody share anything that I post. I don't hide anything. 1167 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,680 Everything I do is you know, I'll share it with anybody. Any 1168 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,159 knowledge I have about it, I'll share it because that's why I do it 1169 01:28:46,199 --> 01:28:51,399 for Really, I'm not I'm not in competition with anybody. Uh. You 1170 01:28:51,399 --> 01:28:56,359 know. I got the Kentucky dog Man Project group on Facebook and I've got 1171 01:28:56,399 --> 01:28:59,960 the YouTube channel. You know, it's grown a lot in the last year. 1172 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,439 I've got about two thousand members roughly on both you know each, So 1173 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:09,880 uh, I mean, yeah, it just answered the questions to join the 1174 01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,600 group. So you know, because if you're not gonna take two seconds to 1175 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,119 answer a couple of questions, you're not gonna take two sects to look at 1176 01:29:15,119 --> 01:29:18,920 the pictures how I really feel about it, So you know, you know, 1177 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:25,279 and I'm always trying to improve the quality of the pictures and the evidence 1178 01:29:25,319 --> 01:29:27,720 I get. And to be honest with you, I'm way beyond pictures. 1179 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,079 I post them because I know the people in the group like see them and 1180 01:29:30,119 --> 01:29:33,520 stuff, but I'm beyond all that stuff. I've uh, this has really 1181 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:39,079 just took me. I mean, it blows my mind still to this day. 1182 01:29:39,079 --> 01:29:42,039 You know, some of the things that I see in pictures and stuff 1183 01:29:42,039 --> 01:29:46,680 freaks me out, Like I can't believe this stuf's really going on. Yeah, 1184 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:53,840 there are some freaky pictures out there that definitely are Yeah, yeah, 1185 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,199 for sure do and uh no, I mean even vick, like even things 1186 01:29:57,199 --> 01:30:00,399 I haven't showed you or talked about, Like some of these pictures like I 1187 01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,680 see a dog man's face across the river on the bank as big as the 1188 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:09,720 front of a house. To me is mind blowing and it's just a I 1189 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,319 don't even know how to put it into words. On listen it is hard 1190 01:30:13,319 --> 01:30:16,159 to sum it up. It definitely is well for everyone listening. If you 1191 01:30:16,159 --> 01:30:19,760 want to check out these guys channels, which I highly recommend you do and 1192 01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:24,720 hope you do, please go to the description for tonight's show and I put 1193 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:29,399 the links there that'll make it really easy. But guys, I can't thank 1194 01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,960 you enough for coming on and answering all these questions. I'm sure you realize 1195 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,640 there are several questions I didn't have time to get to and for people who 1196 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:41,199 asked those questions that I missed, I didn't get to understand. This is 1197 01:30:41,359 --> 01:30:44,119 just the first Q and a show. There are going to be others. 1198 01:30:44,399 --> 01:30:46,239 Part two is probably not going to be that far down the road, so 1199 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,399 we hope you're going to come back and ask those questions again, so please 1200 01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:55,760 keep that in mind. But having said that, thanks again so much for 1201 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,239 listening to the show. Everyone. Thanks so much Paul and Mike for coming 1202 01:30:59,279 --> 01:31:02,760 on participating. I really appreciate it, and I hope you have a great 1203 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:11,079 night. Oh you're welcome, You are welcome, have a great night.