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You're stunking mad, as they say, not what your country can do for

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you, as what you can do
for your country. Mister gerlbucha, tear

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down this wall, read my lips. It's the Ricoche Podcast with Peter Robinson

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and Rob Long. I'm James Lilas
and today the subjects are well, Romania,

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laptop, subway crime. That means
it's Andy McCarthy. So let's have

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Oursellsther podcast. You held onto those
documents when you knew the federal government was

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seeking them, and then it had
given you a subpoena to return. You're

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ready? Are you ready? Can
I talk? Yeah? Can I do

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you mind? I would like for
you to answer. It's very simple,

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toys as it's very simple to you're
a nasty person, I'll tell you.

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Welcome everybody. This is the Ricochet
Podcast, number six hundred and forty one.

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I think if you're in your cell
making a little Roman numeral marks on

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the wall. If I'm wrong,
drop me a line at Ricochet. And

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what is ricochet dot com. Well, it's just the place you've been looking

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for all these years on the internets. It's the same civil center right conversation

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where actually is Rob coined long ago. People have skin in the game,

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not actual literal skin, but metaphor
as possible. You know, you know

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that is rob Along by the way, Peter Robinson will be coming along shortly,

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we hope. Perhaps Right now in
California, Peter is looking at the

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border and wondering exactly when the throngs
will reach his stately little corner of the

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world. I'm looking at this and
thinking this is unusual. Apparently a law

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elapsed, and now we have to
let everybody in kind of what it's like.

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We're powerless to do anything about it. If there's nothing you can do.

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As a matter of fact, the
only humane thing you can do is

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to make sure there's enough busses to
take them elsewhere. If this was an

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actual foreign I mean, if this
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the United States, hostile to us, shall we say, you'd like to

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think that there might be something we
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the people, I mean the people
who are coming here as economic migrants,

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as you are coming here for various
reasons. But I'm sorry, we have

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a process, don't we Now we
don't. There's nothing we can do,

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right, rob Nothing we can do
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idea, like, well, there's
a law, got to obey, the

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law is law, and the laws
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I can't do much about the law, the idea that we're somehow hamstrung by

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a law that that allows other people
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he just sneek at a country anytime
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it's a very strange. I don't. I always trying to figure out what

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the strategy is left and right,
and this one I don't. I just

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don't understand. Like a bold move
to secure the southern border by a president

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sitting president the current one running for
reelection, seems to me to be a

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wise move, A different brainer.
Yeah, Like I was looking, I'm

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not quite sure I get the the
larger sort of conspiratorial issues to replacement stuff.

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And maybe I have never known a
president, or studied a president in

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my entire life, in the history
of this republic who would not toss out

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long term planning, long term thinking
for a short term political gain. In

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my life, yeah, I would. I dare you to find me a

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president, any president, even the
great ones, who would ever do that.

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This president is a just recently approval
is facing a pretty uphill climb in

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twenty twenty four. It is just
sheer political incompetence that he wouldn't just say,

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let's let's get that border secure.
Incompetence is is it? I mean

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you may think, okay, no, this is Clauwert Piven. Oh no,

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this is this is Marxism, this
is all these things. Yeah.

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No, more likely it is just
simply incompetence and an inability to do anything

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and no reason to think why they
should. I mean, perhaps their instincts

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say, well, these people,
you know, they should come here.

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They land of opportunity. You know
what it says in the Statue of Liberty

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and the rest of it. Okay, let's let's quadruple the numbers. Let's

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say that forty thousand people a day
are streaming over and there's nothing we can

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do, and they are we are
obligated to put them up in southern in

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the border states, and to give
them phones, and to give them a

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little piece of paper that says we'll
drop by in twenty twenty seven and we'll

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take a look at your claim,
which means they evaporated the country would ever

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see again. But when you add
this to everything else, this general sense

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that the government, which supposedly is
here to protect us is doing absolutely nothing

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willfully. So then you wonder exactly
what's the state of the social contract.

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They're supposed to keep us safe,
they're supposed to have law and order reasonably

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so. But we watch every day
a video of somebody walking into Walgreens and

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filling up a trash bag and then
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We watch every day some subway nonsense
going on, and of course, and

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the neely thing that's going on in
New York right now is a prime example

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of that. We see here as
we have in Minneapolis roving gangs in Kia

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car running around terrorizing people. And
what does Baltimore do. We're going to

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sue the key of people for making
their cars so easy to steal. All

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of these examples in which we as
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right to use force against other miscreants
in order to keep things working, and

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in every instance we look around,
they're not doing it. I walked past

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the television here at the office,
the CNN was playing, and apparently they've

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got a special coming out. What
happened to San Francisco. Which is good

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that they're going to take a look
at it, but it's a real head

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scrap. Happened? Happened? What
happened? Peter iPhone hasn't rung. They

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don't need to do a documentary.
I can give them a list of San

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Francisco be cleaned up and crime free
before anybody on the left understands what happened

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in San Francisco. That's more likely
to happen. Well, what happened?

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What did happen? Can I just
get back to the border. Yes.

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The Speaker of the House should already
this morning have gone to the cameras and

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made a statement saying that although debt
limit is a serious matter and the risk

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of default is of course grave,
that doesn't come for another month. What's

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happening right now, as of today, is a threat to the integrity of

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the nation itself. It is a
crisis that must be dealt with, and

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therefore, at noon I will be
introducing legislation. The House of Representatives will

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be voting on it at one o'clock. We will send it to the Senate

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by two. This is a crisis
and the nation itself is at risk That's

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what should be had. Greg Abbott
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where's Ronda santis By? It's just
taking actions as of this morning, as

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of this already today. Previously there
was legislation in Florida that banned the hiring

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of illegals. Am I correct?
I'm sorry? Undocumented? Am I not

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correct? Now? You're being high
minded. You're talking about policy, I'm

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talking about politics. Who's in front
of the cameras this morning? To reassure

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the public and to take advantage,
frankly, of the gigantic political opening.

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Everybody is looking at images right now
and saying, well, I guess we're

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stuck with Trump. He's the only
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That cannot be the case. Sorry, boys, we were talking about political

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malpractice, and I just had to
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mean there is that question, right, I mean, like I to keep

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asking myself, I don't I'm trying
not to come up with a singularity argument.

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But has everyone lost their minds at
some point like Baltimore? And then

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and then look, I mean,
look, you say what you like about

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Joe Biden. I mean, you
know he's a fool in many ways,

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but he's not a foolish at least
in the past, it's not been a

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foolish politician. It's one of the
reasons why he's been in a government for

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so long. He's been able to
stay there. The idea that there's not

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an easy lob here for even a
liberal to take on the eve of a

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presidential election just ridiculous. You can
probably find footage of Joe Biden a twenty

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years ago saying, if it were
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to the border and whip the immigrants
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he's all over the road and all
over them. Now. Of course,

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that's what the press corps in DC
brings up, is the fact that,

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well, you know, we can't
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incident, which to discredit aw Erica
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I got to correct you, right, But that underscores a lot of this

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is that it is cruel, it
is it is trump like to oppose this.

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It doesn't matter in the merits whether
or not we should opposed the uncontrolled

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blow of immigration, because it is
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of the sphere of fascism in American
political parties today, it must be opposed.

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Nobody wants they what's yeah, I
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is so amazing. I mean,
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get into the CNN interview with the
town hall wherever you want to call it.

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What Trump does to death right,
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at CNN. The idea. I
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not my insight. This is Ben
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he's absolutely right, because I was
watching this thing thinking why is this so

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weird? What's wrong? What is
what is not working about this interview for

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me? And it's not just that
I don't like Trump, but just like,

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but this sounds so strange about it. And I think that this was

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the premise of the town hall was
a number the depending on how you look

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at it, the most popular Republican
running for president in twenty twenty four.

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The front runner is having a town
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the questions asked of this front runner
in a Republican party were questions that are

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utterly uninteresting to the Republicans in the
audience. So none of those questions had

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anything to do with the Republican primary, and that was what the business was

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so bizarre. It's like, you
know, one of those people were laughing

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and hooting, and they're like,
this is not what we came here for.

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We came here to ask why he
blew it? If you're against him

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in a Republican why he blew it? And Brian Camp and Ron Desantists didn't

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when it came to COVID, why
he blew it building the border wall,

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which he didn't build any of it, and he promised he was going to

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build it, So all those are
good questions to ask. Instead it was

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all this weird you know, so
everybody lost their minds. That's my that's

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my working theory for the next six
months is all the questions he got,

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as far as I can tell,
all the questions he did receive, reduced

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to one. Mister President, mister
Trump, We we CNN, the media,

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the FBI, the CIA, the
Democratic Party. We have spent six

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years trying to humiliate you. Why
aren't you humiliated? That's really what I

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came down to, Why aren't you
embarrassed? He doesn't have no shame?

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The answer is no, of course
not. We knew. I knew that.

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Well, the prospect of a presidential
election coming up that is Joe Biden

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versus Donald Trump. It is mortifying
on so many levels. And and and

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not just because we almost felt that, you know, in the last presidential

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election, this is the last gasp
of the gerontocracy. I mean, Trump

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was vital, but you know you're
not that old. But still this this

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is the last hurrah of that generation. And and for four years later to

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be presented with the same choice is
is just there's there's no last gasp.

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When everybody's on a ventilator. It's
just to keep these guys wheezing away.

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So very good point. It's a
great line. And also the argument is

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like just political, pure politics.
It's like you knew, almost always beats

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old. Change, almost always beats
more of the same. There have been

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very rare instances where that hasn't been
because the mantra in the first bill in

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Bill Clinton won, I remember that
was this thing that everybody say, well,

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we need change, change, change, we need change because there have

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been X number of years of Reaganism
and they're we need to change. And

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also we were as clintonshood at the
time experiencing the worst economy since the Great

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Depression, which everybody kind of sort
of didn't really believe but kind of felt

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in their bones because we had a
downturn. And I still remember when I

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was covering the Democratic Convention in New
York, there was a button for sale

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that had this frazzled looking woman in
the words worried about everything. Vote Democratic,

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and that was pretty much what they
had. And then pretty much kind

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of what people did, and it
was changed. We need change, we

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need change, change, change,
change, And of course that went with

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all the people who were walking around
Manhattan, or rather slumped up against a

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building with a cup rattling and saying
the very same word, Oh, I

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remember that convention. Well, it
was in New York, and New York

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in the summer is a hot,
hot, hot, steamy, uncomfortable,

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smellty place. But it's still New
York, at least back then it was.

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I don't know what it's going to
be like now, Rob can tell

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us. Maybe it's a little bit
emptied out. Maybe the smell of weed

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wafts over everything in a way that
it didn't in ninety two. But here's

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the thing here many where it's getting
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It's great, and pretty soon I'm
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thinking, well, if you're going
to do that, you better change your

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sheets. Well, first of all, change my sheets all the time.

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But secondly, just because it's getting
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Southern District of New York. And
we got big investigations, big lawsuits going

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on, so we thought we'd have
them back. Welcome Andy, guys.

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Great to be with you as always. Oh hey, here's the deal,

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laptop. The story is it was
Russian dis info, was signed by fifty

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one people who agreed, so,
and then it was real. But it

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doesn't matter because none of that is
so. And then CNN, well,

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there may be eleven shell companies but
calling money to grandkids, but none of

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it went to Joe Biden. So
nothing burger, nothing burger, Move along,

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move along. Tell us what matters
the most Out of the things we've

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heard re Hunter and the Bidens over
the last I don't know, three or

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four weeks. I think obviously the
most important thing is to prosecute Santos.

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I mean, under the questions as
you blamed them out. I mean,

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I can't see any other alternative.
You don't look. I thought the House

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over Sight press conference that they had
the other day was pretty good in the

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way that they pretty efficiently over fifty
minutes, laid out a lot of this

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financial evidence, which has you know, goog gobs of money going into Biden

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family coffers over a number of years. This is not a new story.

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I mean a lot of us were
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On the other hand, the House
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they're obviously using it to advance the
investigation beyond what was known. But I

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think the big takeaways are, you
know, in any big transaction where you

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have, you know, whether it's
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whatever go in one way, you
expect to see you commodities, assets,

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things of value coming the other way. And the only thing that resembles something

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of value in this equation is access
to Joe Biden and his political influence,

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which I think leads to the second
part of this that for a prosecutor is

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very interesting, which is that when
people are doing legitimate business, even if

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they're big dollar transactions, they're generally
very simple, straightforward transactions. I mean,

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there may be you know, mortgages
and all that stuff, but I

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mean money goes one way, the
commodity comes to the other way. You

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know, Steve Collins for that,
right, right, So he buys the

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Mets, right and I'm sure he
feels like he uh, defrauded at this

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point, but you know, he
pays what was it like two billion dollars

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or whatever it was, and he
gets the ball club. You know,

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you can see it when people are
doing illegitimate business. What you tend to

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find is what we're seeing here,
which is like there's seventeen different LLC's,

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these limited liability companies that have been
created for the for the purpose basically their

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paper creations for moving money. And
there are five or six different banking channels

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that are also used to sluice money
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doing that kind of business, I
mean, this is this is essentially what

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money laundering becomes. If you can
show that. The big thing with money

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laundering is you have to show that
the money that you start with is the

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proceeds of criminal activity. If it's
your own money and it's legitimate money,

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you can change the form of it
however many times you want. But people

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don't tend to do that with legitimate
money. What happens with illegitimate money is

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you know, you have to move
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kind of disguise the source of it. And often what you find is that

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transactions that are you know, large
sized transactions get broken into five or ten

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or fifteen smaller transactions in order to
keep the dollar figure down. And in

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this instance, what we see is
the money is going to like a variety

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of different bidens rather than one.
Right, and all this they're all really

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good, like it's they're a really
really great uh Internationally they're excellent, excellent,

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including the grand children. Right,
Hey, Andy, isn't that a

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crime just in itself? I mean, I of course, as you know,

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I'm not. I did not pass
the New York State Bar just to

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be fully just fully transparent or any
bar. Well, I've never passed the

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bar without least trying to walk in
like knocking on the door. Untum.

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Is this structured they call structured,
and that it just structuring a system so

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that you could Isn't that also a
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Rob, There's two things here that
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and the other is another term that
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is SAR or suspicious activity reports,
which I think the House guys mentioned like

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one hundred and seventy stars that they
reviewed the other day. So let's start

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with structuring, because that's the crime. I think it was in the eighties

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that we started to put on the
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idea was that because it was so
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transactions, the laws were put in
place to make it if you do a

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ten thousand dollars domestic cash transaction with
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what's known as a currency transaction report, and for international transactions to the trigger

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is five thousand dollars. So there's
nothing there's nothing wrong, Like, for

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example, if you were in a
cash business, you have no problem with

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doing a currency transaction report with the
bank because you can show that there's a

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legitimate source of the money. But
people who are engaged in criminal behavior,

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narcotics traffickers and organized crime in particular, they get a lot of cash and

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they don't want a paper record of
it. So what they did was put

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these laws in so that people had
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money and where the money came from. And that's so structuring that you refer

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to is like I get twelve thousand
dollars on a drug deal, say so,

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I don't want to go to the
file a CTR, a currency transaction

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report, so I'll break it into
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make sure I don't hit the ten
grand mark, which triggers the currency transaction

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report, which brings us to stars. The banks detect this kind of activity,

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you know, they see my full
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said, hmmm, that seems fishy, but it doesn't trigger the law violation

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because I haven't hit the ten thousand. So they file what's known as a

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suspicious activity report, which they also
provide to the government that says there's something

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fishy going on here and we maybe
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And that can be done because of
the way that transactions seemed to be structured

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to defeat the reporting requirements, or
and sometimes it's both the source of the

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money is suspicious. So for example, Hunter Biden, as I understand it

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triggered at least one suspicious activity report
because when he got money from his father

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to pay his outstanding prostitution bill that
ended up going to just part of his

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monthly allowance. Yeah, but it
went to an email account that had a

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dot RU for Russia at the end
of it, which got the bank.

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You know, not that not that
there'd be any allusion with Russia. Russian

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collusion now, we don't believe in
Russian clues. I was on the wrong

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side of this years ago, just
a little personal JUSTI which I know the

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the what's the right side of this? I was writing a column for the

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Abu Dhabi English language Abu Dhabi newspaper
called The National. I read it for

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about twelve years and suspicious activities exactly. And they didn't pay me for like

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eight weeks, nine weeks, ten
weeks, twelve weeks. They were trying

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to sort it out, and so
should we're gonna wire it? You wired

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to wire you? Um. They
finally sorted it out. I said,

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whatever you do, please do not
wire me all of that money all at

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once and uh and I and they
said, well we have to. And

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I said, can you just spread
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called my account and I said,
what do I have to say to them

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just to get them to not do
this. And he said, you don't

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say that at all, because there's
no reason for you to say that,

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because you are intending to pay income
tax on this money. Yes, And

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I said, yeah, I mean, yeah, so yeah, it really

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I mean. And my idea,
my level of hyphinance doesn't even come close,

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or level of expenditure or interesting expenditure
even come close to Hunter Biden.

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Why is this guy not in jail
yet? Well, here's that's a very

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interesting question because a lot of what
we know they have investigated him for is

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the kind of stuff that would take
a competent investigator five days to pull together,

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not five years. So for example, and this is probably the best

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example of this, Hunter obtains a
gun in a handgun in I think it

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was twenty eighteen. It gets this
guy is just the gift that keeps garing.

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So he has to fill out the
required federal He uses the money left

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over from paying the prostitute. Well, no, we're coming to the next

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prostitute. Slow down, get your
prostitute order, Peter. So unbelievable.

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He buys, he buys a gun. He fills out the federals like Form

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forty four seventy three. It's it
like an ATF form. Everybody's got to

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fill it out when they when they
purchase a firearm. And he lies in

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the form about his narcotics use.
He's at that time he's a historic cocaine

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abuser, but at that time he's
going through a jag in that in that

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particular time frame, and he says
in the form that he does not use

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uh, illegal narcotics. A few
days later, we now know from the

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infamous Laptop from Hell um, he
is depicted in a video with a prostitute

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waving the gun around. Um,
so as one does, yeah, as

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one does. Um. And a
couple of days after that, um,

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his I guess he was then involved
with with bow Biden's wife, so his

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his former sister in law. Now, uh, you know paramore um,

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but that was just at that time. The widow of his brother correct it,

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okay, So she seeing the uh
the drug abuse and the other stuff

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he's up to, gets nervous and
basically takes the gun away. They lose

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the gun and they ended up they
end up trying to I think she disposed

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of it in a in the garbage
of a like a grocery store that was

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across the street. From a school
um and eventually, you know, the

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gun is recovered and there's some reporting
that says the Secret Service, um,

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you know, insinuated itself to try
to get the documents back from the gun

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transaction to make the whole thing go
away. They haven't proved that yet,

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but it sounds very fishy what went
on here. But in any event,

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that case, for a good prosecutor
in a decent investigator, we're not talking,

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you know, I mean, this
is an Elliott Nest stuff. This

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is like very straightforward. Should have
taken five days to pull that case together.

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It's still sitting there five years later. They haven't charged it. The

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other thing we know that the prosecutor
in Delaware is looking at this is the

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US Attorney David Weiss in Delaware,
who is appointed by I think he's appointed

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by Trump, who's assigned the investigation
by Bill Barr. But people should understand

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if if you're the US attorney in
Delaware, you can't be the US attorney

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unless the two senators in the state
have basically blessed that. So you know

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he's got Democratic connections as well as
being Trump appointed. But in any event,

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the other cases we know he's looking
at our crimes. We know he's

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looking at our tax evasion violations that
go back years, and that resulted in

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leans putting on being put on Hunter's
property in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,

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twenty eighteen. So this stuff is
has been out there for years, and

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a lot of it isn't that complicated, and yet they're sitting on it.

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These cases have not gone forward.
And now we're getting reports that whistleblowers have

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complained to the two guys in the
Senate who've been looking at this the most,

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Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson, and
also to now the House committees complaints

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from an investigator from the IRS and
an investigator from some agency in the Justice

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Department, who are complaining that there's
been political interference and that they haven't been

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able to do the normal things that
you would do in a criminal investigation.

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Hey, Andy, one to double
back, just very very briefly, when

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you look at what we what you
started by describing, when you look at

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the way that they've set up they've
structured that move the money around to various

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bidens, do you look at that
and say, hmmm, pretty sophisticated.

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These guys may have been up to
no good, but they knew what they

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were doing. Or do you look
at and say, what amateur hour here?

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Yeah, Peter, you know there's
a combination of both. Is I

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mean, it's really not that difficult
to set up these kinds of LLCs and

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a lot of the behavior I think
that the Bidens engaged in here is pretty

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gross. You know, some of
it is obviously made the money difficult to

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trace, and there's so many people
involved in it. They were clearly trying

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to keep the amounts down so that
that really trigger people's suspicions. But my

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sense of this is that, you
know, I mean, with with one

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of these Chinese efforts to CEFC,
which is really just a Chinese intelligence operation

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that that the Biden stumbled into,
I mean they gave they gave Hunter a

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diamond as a bribe to start off
the relationship, you know, um and

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uh, it just seems like,
you know, pretty sort of low level

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stuff, and it makes you think
that at some level these guys just think

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they're invulnerable. You know, this
did this? A lot of this behavior

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goes back when you get that idea. Yeah, but I mean, look

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it goes back to like twenty ten, even even a little thing. It

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shouldn't be a little thing. But
you know Joe Biden being caught with classified

408
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information that he took when he was
in the Senate. You know, senators

409
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are not not supposed to have classified
information. There's a place on Capitol Hill

410
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or places skiffs that they have to
go to um to review it. It's

411
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not like, you know, there's
some ex Ecutive branch positions, which are

412
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:06,319
national security jobs, where they come
and put a skiff in your house because

413
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your whole job is national security and
you're on duty you all the time.

414
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That doesn't happen with members of Congress. If senators and members of the House

415
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,759
have to go to skifts to review
classified documents, So what the hell is

416
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:26,720
Biden doing with classified documents in his
house that date back to his time in

417
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the Senate. And I think you
see enough of that kind of behavior again

418
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,799
and again, and you just think
these guys have a sense of entitlement and

419
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,519
they think that they can get away
with stuff and no one's ever going to

420
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,759
call them on it. There's a
new wrinkle this week. I mean,

421
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going back to what you said before, I mean the fact that the hundred

422
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,240
stuff has been sitting there forever is
fascinating because it's like somebody came to them

423
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,400
and said, you know, I
hear this guy. It's got a gun

424
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,359
that he shouldn't have light on his
application formed he've been waving around. He's

425
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,559
doing a lot of drugs and he's
hiring hookers, and Siddy says, yeah,

426
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:57,799
well's gonna be hard to prove.
Oh well, actually here's the video

427
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,400
of it. Yeah. Well,
okay, okay, you mean the Russian

428
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,200
James, you mean the Russian disinformation, right, the Russian did They're so

429
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,759
good at that. Anyway, moving
forward, we had a new wrinkle this

430
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:14,440
week though, in which Romania has
entered the chat. Previously it was just

431
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,839
China in Ukraine, and now there
seems to be a little Romanian connection here.

432
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:22,039
Have you been following that and exactly
what was spent, what was given

433
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,680
to which grandchildren, and what the
president eventually and what Biden then later said

434
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,680
about Romania back in the Yeah,
so this goes to what I was saying

435
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,759
about some of the behavior being gross. You know, this is whalt Biden

436
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,799
is vice president. He's over there
giving speeches in Romania about anti corruption,

437
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,680
and the guy who ends up being
the source of the bribe turns out to

438
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:54,839
have been prosecuted in Romania for corruption
and he avenged. Essentially, he gives

439
00:32:54,839 --> 00:33:01,720
the Biden's a million dollars, and
at least some of it is in the

440
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:07,400
form of like one hundred thousand dollars
that went to one of the grandchildren.

441
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:15,480
You know, just the kind of
stuff that it's. Romania played a big

442
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:20,839
role in the press conference they had
the other day. I think I had

443
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,079
a dim memory of having heard of
Romania before. But there's more countries involved

444
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:29,000
than just China and Ukraine we've had. You know, there's a Russian source

445
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:32,720
of about three and a half million
dollars. There's a Mexican guy that Hunter

446
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,920
did business with and had a bunch
of meetings that some of which involved Joe

447
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Biden, and we don't know how
lucrative that was. I have to ask

448
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,640
that, I have to ask the
question. This is a question that Rob

449
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,920
has a serious question. This is
flippant but seriously at the same time,

450
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:53,599
and I stipulate this is exactly the
kind of question that drives Rob nuts.

451
00:33:53,799 --> 00:34:01,359
I cannot forbear to ask it all
the same if his we're Hunter Trump,

452
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,360
how would it all have been different
by now? Well, first of all,

453
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:13,199
it wouldn't have gone on for decades, which this now looks. I

454
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,639
mean, this looks to me like
it's gone on for close to twenty years.

455
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:21,320
And it would be the only story
around. I mean, it would

456
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:27,360
be the only story we were talking
about. It'd be almost like, let

457
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,480
me imagine something that might be close
to it, Like let's say the border

458
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:36,400
collapsed, like there was no border
enforcement and tens of thousands of people pouring

459
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,360
over the border. You know,
if something like that happened, it would

460
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,599
be the only story in America that
anyone was talking about that and that could

461
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:47,119
never happen, of course, something
like this. Yeah, well I got

462
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:52,639
it. So and so here's my
questions. Since you brought the border a

463
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,559
legal question, so U and I
think I had this right? Correct me

464
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:07,039
when inviably I say something stupid.
Federal judge in Florida blocks the Biden administration

465
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:15,599
carrying out parts of the immigration plan
last night, a suit brought by clear

466
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:21,159
by Governor Ronda Santis. Is that
going to be effective? In effective?

467
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,400
I mean, I think it's affected
politically for Republicans. And if you're running

468
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,199
in a Republican primary, it looks
like you're you know, you're sitting in

469
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:32,000
Tallahassee, but you've got the problems
of the country on your mind. Is

470
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,199
this a little blip, is it
pure theater or is there something effective here?

471
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Hard to say at this point how
the administration will react to the ruling.

472
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:49,760
I mean, the bottom line is
the framers thought that the judiciary was

473
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:57,000
the least dangerous branch because they lacked
the purse and the sword. And sometimes,

474
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,320
you know, we think that everybody
in government genuflex when there's a court

475
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,840
decision, but in point of fact, you know, courts don't have a

476
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:12,840
means of enforcing their rulings. And
if the government decides, if the if

477
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,679
the reigning administration decides not to follow
a judicial decision, it's a question of

478
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:22,519
how much politically they think they can
get away with. As you just said,

479
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:25,679
you know, these things can be
politically effective, right, because it's

480
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:30,400
a most people think it's a pretty
outrageous thing. If a judge makes it

481
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,000
appears to be a lawful ruling in
the even an unlawful ruling, they feel

482
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,480
like, oh, to be followed
until it gets reversed. Right. So,

483
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,840
and I think that you have to
juxtapose that in terms of the politics

484
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,440
of it, which may be probably
is much more important than the law.

485
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,519
You have to juxtapose that with these
images, at least those of us who

486
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,039
watch some like you know, Fox
News and other places. I guess,

487
00:36:55,039 --> 00:37:00,760
I guess everybody is not seeing this, but you know, these images of

488
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,000
of people coming across the Rio Grand
and these lines in Brownsville, Texas,

489
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:08,679
and I mean, they're just shocking. Even for those of us who've watched

490
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,119
this for a long time, it's
just shocking to watch. Yeah, Drudge

491
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:15,440
this morning is the headline is five
hundred thousand lined up to come in?

492
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,039
So Andy, may I ask wait
a minute, Drudge? Yeah, Drudge,

493
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:27,400
who's no friend of last person in
America who goes to Drudge. After

494
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,639
this is done, we're going to
go and talk about removing bookmarks from your

495
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:36,559
browser. Andy, can you explain, Just give me a brief explainer.

496
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,679
Rob asked the probing questions. Here, I'll do the water bug thing skittering

497
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,280
across the surface. Here's the way
I've been traveling the last few days.

498
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,599
And here's what I hear as I
listen to podcasts and punched the car radio

499
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:58,440
one. There's something called title forty
two. The Trump people enacted two As

500
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,760
of midnight last night, Title forty
two expired. Three. Because Title forty

501
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,199
two expired, there's nothing we can
do. We just have to let them

502
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:14,360
all in. What was Title forty
two? And why must it be beyond

503
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,440
the ken of man and woman?
Why can't the Speaker of the House go

504
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:23,519
in front of the cameras and say
this piece of legislation will be enacted this

505
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:29,440
day in the House of Representatives and
set to the Senate by noon. Well,

506
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,119
in other words, what is the
legal How does anybody get away with

507
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:37,599
saying we don't have the legal standing
to protect reporters anymore because something called Title

508
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:42,719
forty two expired. Well, let
me start out with what the law says

509
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,880
now and why it shouldn't even be
necessary for the Speaker of the House to

510
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:51,400
do what you just said. The
law of the United States, by statute

511
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:55,559
says that if you are here illegally
or try to get in illegally, you

512
00:38:55,679 --> 00:39:05,760
shall be detained. That's the words
of the statute until your application claiming lawful

513
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,519
admission into the United States is resolved. So, under the law, even

514
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:15,800
when we think people have a colorable
legal basis to be here, they are

515
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,719
supposed to be detained, not released
into the country until going back three years

516
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:27,039
later. Right now, we have
about thirty six thousand detention spaces for people

517
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,119
that are dedicated to people who try
to come into the country unlawfully. Now,

518
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:37,199
I think to me, and I
may not be a paragon of common

519
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,960
sense, but like to the common
sense person, what that says is,

520
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:46,239
you can't detain more than thirty six
thousand people. So once you reach maximum

521
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,039
detention, you don't let anyone else
into the country until you have room to

522
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:57,079
detain people. What the government's position
has been for decades is, well,

523
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,599
if more the people want to come
in, then we have space for Obviously,

524
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:06,880
we have to let them in and
adjudicate their claims. So that's the

525
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,920
backward assumption that we're dealing with that
even though Congress has said these people don't

526
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:19,440
have any right or authority to be
at liberty inside our country. This has

527
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,719
been going on for decades because it's
been so out of control. Title forty

528
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:32,760
two was kind of a pretext in
place to kind of paper over a lack

529
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,920
of serious enforcement policy. Title forty
two was a policy that was related to

530
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:45,239
the pandemic that gave the government an
excuse to not let anyone in during COVID

531
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:52,280
because of infectious disease fears. And
what a number of us argued all along,

532
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,400
and I think the Supreme Court,
especially Justice Coursage, said this when

533
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:00,440
it came up to the Supreme Court, is the government is saying COVID's not

534
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:07,159
an emergency anymore. So what you're
trying to do here is take something that

535
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:10,559
you did over COVID as a pretext
and make it your policy because you don't

536
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:17,840
have the nerve to like legislature and
put in actual enforcement policies. And yeah,

537
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,280
I think Peter that he's right about
that. He's totally right about it.

538
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,719
But the problem is, I think
in our political culture, we like

539
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:34,039
to look at all these controversies with
the assumption that everybody has at some level

540
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,480
common ground about like the betterment of
the country, but they have very different

541
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,920
ideas about how to get there,
and this is not that issue. You

542
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,199
have some people who philosophically do not
believe the United States should have a border,

543
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,840
and they want to see radical change
in the country, which they think

544
00:41:52,440 --> 00:42:00,679
changing the racial and ethnic composition of
the country would achieve at least more rapidly

545
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:06,760
than otherwise. So I don't know
how you make a compromise with people who

546
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,639
don't think we should have a border
in the first place. But that's where

547
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,320
that's the reason nothing ever gets done
to you reach out to the people who

548
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,000
are in the communities where they're being
bust Two. We saw this in Chicago.

549
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:19,599
There was a town hall where they
said, by the way, two

550
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:22,039
hundred and fifty immigrants, migrant's going
to be coming to stay here, and

551
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:27,800
the neighborhood, which was not your
shall we say what you might think of

552
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:34,280
a leafy, waspy suburb of Chicago, reacted poorly. They hadn't been consulted,

553
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,679
they didn't like it, didn't and
they didn't The interesting thing is the

554
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,400
two hundred and fifty is not particularly
that much. But you get the sense

555
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,360
that people did not want the composition
of their neighborhood to be altered instantly,

556
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,639
in a large degree, all at
once. So when you ask people about

557
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,760
this thing, you actually find common
ground. And so their solution, of

558
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,960
course, is just simply not to
ask. All right. It takes a

559
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,239
I mean, I don't know what, I don't know what. I think.

560
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,559
I've read like the Bolsheviks that had
about seven percent support in Russia in

561
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:06,239
you know, when the revolution started
in nineteen seventeen. So I think it

562
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,079
takes no but it may be.
But what all My point is that I

563
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:19,360
just think it takes a only a
small determined faction, uh to make you

564
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,159
know, real progress for itself,
if it's willing to do things that defy

565
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:29,079
what what people think are like and
and likewise, at the same time,

566
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:36,119
I'm sorry, but this would be
my last event. But you know my

567
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:39,480
last vent. Donald Trump does this
town hall on CNN, and it's he's

568
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,880
on form. He's Trump again,
except that we've lived with him and we

569
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,480
know this is just not going to
end well. So I'm saying to myself,

570
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:52,079
wait a minute, Well you know
what I know, I am now

571
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:59,880
in favor of vivic rama Swami because
that guy is talking back. Why has

572
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,360
it ron to Santa Is stepped in
front of the cameras already this morning?

573
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,920
You say it, of course correctly. If you have a dedicated faction,

574
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,199
and they seem to be the people
in charge of this walking zombie who's the

575
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,400
President of the United States, the
people adjusting him and moving him and propping

576
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,159
him up, seem to be this
dedicated faction that wants to eliminate the border.

577
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:24,239
Likewise, what we need on our
side is leadership, leadership, not

578
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:30,559
this. Donald Trump has his points. He's an amazing and engrossing person,

579
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,400
but he's not a leader at this
point. Let's hear from you. De

580
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:39,519
Santis, Glen Young can stop screwing
around if you're going to run for president,

581
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:43,320
because this is a crisis. Say
so, these people should be in

582
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,920
front of the cameras before Monday.
I'm done venting, or Andy. Is

583
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,159
it possible that the right can ever
adrest this issue because it's been tainted with

584
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:53,840
the allegations of xenophobia, racism,
etc. It can only come from somebody

585
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,199
in the Democratic Party, somebody to
make the populous point from the Democrat Party

586
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:02,159
why this can't stand and why it's
to use their favorite word sustainable. Yeah,

587
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:05,719
well, I don't know. I
mean, I'm not a Trump fan,

588
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,159
um, but I do think he
moved what they I guess they called

589
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:14,320
the Overton window on us, right. Yeah, so I think it is

590
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,440
possible to make these arguments, and
I'm you know, I'm looking. I'm

591
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,039
with Peter on this. I think
THEOT to be getting busy. I know,

592
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:22,960
the Santis is on his own schedule
in terms of when he wants to

593
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:28,519
announce his candidacy. But you know, here, here's the crisis. Where's

594
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,280
the man. There are times when
you don't get to choose. Yep,

595
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:36,400
yeah, yep yeah. Just just
to piggyback on that, I mean,

596
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,920
one person who is and who is
moving the over to window a little bit.

597
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:43,159
On the other side is Eric Adams, who's discovered that a city as

598
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:46,760
big as New York City, which
actually probably just statistically could take many more

599
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,960
uh migrants from the border right just
in terms of space and people and budget,

600
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:55,920
more many more than Brownsville, Texas, as long as you put them

601
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,960
any place but the village. Yeah, truth, the consequences New Mexico.

602
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:02,840
He's decided that this is a crisis
for New York City, which, of

603
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,880
course, if you're the mayor of
any of those little towns, small bunch

604
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,199
of towns around the border, you
must be rolling your eyes like, are

605
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:13,639
you serious, dude? I would
they exist on one tenth of one percent

606
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:15,440
of his budget. But since we're
talking about since I brought up New York

607
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,559
City, I gotta bring up another
before we let you know, because you're

608
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:27,199
you're you know you already put Hunter
Biden in jail, thank you on I

609
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:34,440
guess today or tomorrow. Daniel Penny, who was riding the subway with Jordan

610
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:38,840
Neely right, Jordan Neely was the
man who was either threatening or making trouble

611
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,559
or doing the kinds of things that
threatened people on the subway car put him

612
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:50,599
in a chokehold. He died.
The district attorney, Manhattan District Attorney has

613
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:58,880
said that he is going to charge
Penny for second degree manslaughter. I think

614
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:04,079
he's going to be he's going to
surrender today, or maybe he's already surrendered.

615
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:13,960
He said it to trainer Friday morning, stipulated, this seems morally ridiculous,

616
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:21,039
like like an absolute put up job
by a Manhattan District attorney who is

617
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:23,800
among the worst, maybe the worst
da we've ever had in the city,

618
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:31,280
focusing entirely on the wrong things instead
of the right things. What do you

619
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,920
think's going to happen here? Is
this marine gonna go to jail? No,

620
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:40,599
I think he'll get he'll get acquitted
if they're daft enough to follow through

621
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:45,840
with this. But you know,
I think we talk all the time about

622
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,559
the many, many things that are
wrong with the federal government. One thing

623
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:53,079
that's right with the federal government is
that prosecutors are appointed, they're not elected,

624
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,960
you know, they and they get
vetted. They get vetted by the

625
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:01,920
Senate. And even though this may
be you know, the tribute that vice

626
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,119
pays to virtue, they at least
pay lip service to the idea that they

627
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:12,559
are going to enforce the law in
a nonpartisan fashion. That is part of

628
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,119
the expectation of being qualified to be
a prosecutor, at least in the federal

629
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:21,320
system. So I think when you
look at Bragg, the state system is

630
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,320
not that way. I think it's
much more accurate to look at Bragg as

631
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:30,280
an elected progressive Democrat than as a
law enforcement efficient Yeah, right, if

632
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:37,119
you inject I think, if you
would inject electoral politics into this instead of

633
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:42,880
the things that drive law enforcement decisions, what he has to do is use

634
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,559
his power in a way that pleases
to people who put him there in the

635
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:49,519
first place. And I looked at
this this morning because I wrote about this

636
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:54,400
financial review for this coming weekend.
There are one point seven million people on

637
00:48:54,440 --> 00:49:01,199
the island of Manhattan. Eighty five
thousand people voted for Alan Bragg in the

638
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,760
Democratic primary, which essentially made him
the district attorney. So that's about five

639
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,679
percent of the residence. So we're
back again to the determined faction. I

640
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,199
guess that's why I have it in
the front of the brain today. But

641
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:22,440
he's there to deliver progressive results.
He's not going to be judged by whether

642
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,199
there are acquittals in the case because
it's not a law enforcement decision. It's

643
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:30,000
a political decision. It's the same
reason he charged Trump in a case that

644
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,599
he didn't even lay out what the
crime is in the indictment. Because what

645
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,760
he's there to do is what he
campaigned on, which is to use use

646
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:45,280
the powers of the District Attorney's office
to further the walk progressive ageddam That's what

647
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,239
he's doing, and he can really
quickly. This is on my mind because

648
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:57,159
of Trump and the trial the other
day. You just said totally confidently,

649
00:49:57,199 --> 00:50:00,039
and you said it immediately as though
it's just something that is part of the

650
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:05,039
ground of your being that this guy
would be acquitted if you if it want

651
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:08,880
to trial, right, are you
can we Here's the question is Manhattan,

652
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:16,000
Manhattan juries. Can you get twelve
people to do the right thing, to

653
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:22,880
stand above identity politics and Manhattan.
It just Peter here. I guess i'd

654
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:28,000
be I'd be reassured. Please reassure
me that. Yeah. Here's the difference

655
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:30,679
between the Penny case and the Trump
case. The Trump case is a political

656
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:38,880
case. The Penny case is about
security on the subway. Manheal Knights ride

657
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:44,519
the subway. They are craving.
They know what a hellscape it's become.

658
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:50,480
They are craving police presence on it. And they want somebody, a man

659
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:54,840
who won't just look at his shoes
when some insane person gets on a train

660
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,400
car and starts to harass the old
ladies and harass everybody else on the train,

661
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,119
card intimidate them. They may it
may have become the fashion in New

662
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,840
York that men are now supposed to
just like sort of stare at their shoes

663
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,639
and look at their phones while that
kind of stuff goes on. But this

664
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:17,360
guy Penny, who actually in a
valorous way put himself on the line against

665
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:22,559
somebody who is a career criminal who
just get out of Riker's Island after I

666
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:27,440
think sixteen months there for punching an
old lady in the face where he broke

667
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:34,960
her nose and broke her occipital bone
arrested forty two times and threatening to people.

668
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,639
And what New Yorkers, even in
Manhattan one, when they're on the

669
00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:42,159
subway, is somebody like Daniel Penny
who's willing to step up. So I

670
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:46,719
don't see how you get twelve people
to agree to convict him, thank you.

671
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:52,440
The quantity of his arrest just simply
means it's forty two times that the

672
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,000
system failed him, is what we're
led to believe. We're supposed to be

673
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,599
told by some of these people that
the fact that he was raving and screaming

674
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,360
on the subway is a reflective of
a society that refused to do anything for

675
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,280
him. At some point, people
wash their hands of that and say,

676
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:13,719
no, it is the obligation of
the society to make sure that people are

677
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,159
safe in the subway. And you
have this new idea amongst the left that

678
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,679
not only should we stare at our
shoes, but this is part of the

679
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,320
rich and diverse, vibrant element of
living in a city. Well, you

680
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,599
know, as it's just why you
gotta put up with. This is what

681
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:29,280
you this is what we do here. If you don't like it, go

682
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,480
back to the go to the suburbs
and drive a car, to which most

683
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:37,119
people would say, yes, yes, I will. I don't know what

684
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,760
burb you are in, Andy or
what you're driving, but we're glad you

685
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,840
pop by today. And for those
of you who are looking on the live

686
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,199
stream, he's wearing a Chicago hat. I was just in Chicago, and

687
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,119
I was I actually had people were
telling me, you know, you're going

688
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:54,320
to Chicago, as if they expected
that I'd be gunned down in front of

689
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,119
the Art Museum. No, it
was a Saturday, It was beautiful,

690
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,440
and there were so many tourists around. There were so many people that had

691
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,880
felt absolutely safe, which is what
cities need and what they're not getting.

692
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:06,840
But that's another day. Know the
story and know the podcast. No the

693
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:07,960
raps. Thanks for joining us.
Andy, We'll talk to you later.

694
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,760
Hey Man. Great to be with
you guys. Thanks Andy, Thank you

695
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:19,239
Andy. Rob. I was going
to ask you, and this is not

696
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,480
a segway, are the streets of
New York because I just mentioned Chicago,

697
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:24,679
which was great because there was all
kinds of people there and it made it

698
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,320
safe. Now, granted they were
all just staring at the mirrored bean or

699
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,159
walking around him. If you're going
to Avenue gawking at the buildings, but

700
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,719
cities need eyes subways. I mean, the reason that they don't feel safe

701
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,320
to a lot of people was because
if somebody mentioned there's not the guy who's

702
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,280
who you think is going to step
up, that nobody's stepping up, that

703
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,000
there's just a rot in a drain
that is plaguing our cities. That is

704
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:52,719
irreversible. Is how is New York
doing? Which is probably not a question,

705
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:57,079
so I guess it is an issue. I mean, I don't think

706
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:00,199
it's irreversible at all. I mean, I mean I couldn't imagine anything worse

707
00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:01,559
than New York City in nineteen eighty
nine or nineteen ninety. I mean,

708
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:06,280
because people who murder rate was much
higher. It's reversible. You just have

709
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:12,760
to just decide you're going to reverse
it. Um. But also, I

710
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,920
mean in New York and eighty nine
ninety did not have the sort of depopular

711
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:20,039
but you still had downtown office corps
that were fairly well developed. In families,

712
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:22,800
you didn't have to try back,
you didn't have a behalf of the

713
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:25,199
Brooklyn was still kind of a kill
zone. Now, young people move to

714
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:28,679
New York City and they moved to
Crown Heights. I know people when I

715
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:30,800
first came back after being thirty years
in LA and I'd meet people and say

716
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,920
where do you where you live?
They'd say Crown Heights and I'd say,

717
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,639
no, you can't live in Crown
Heights, right, but of course you

718
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:39,760
can't live in grown is crazy,
but people live. Good things have happened.

719
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,679
I just and I think the best
thing that has happened. If everyone's

720
00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:47,320
are the focuses and people and we
isolate and point and shout at the people

721
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,880
who have lost their minds, which
includes people on the subway and also people

722
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:57,039
who are in the Manhattan District Attorney's
office, we can easily get it back,

723
00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:00,639
and we could easily get we could
almost get like I have an optimist

724
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:04,880
so I don't think anything is inevitable
and or inevitable or irreversible. Decline is

725
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,920
a I mean, this is a
cliche, but it's true. It's a

726
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,519
choice and we can choose not to. And it isn't that, especially now,

727
00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:19,480
because the opposition to that is so
bizarre, it's so weird. It

728
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:22,880
wasn't not weird in the sixties or
even the seventies. To want big government

729
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,639
programs made total sense. If you
were, especially if you've grown up under

730
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:30,360
the New Deal. These are all
making liberalism, big government, liberal policies

731
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,920
make a certain amount of sense.
I mean, I don't think they're right,

732
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,280
but I get it. They're not
irrational. Nobody looked at somebody who

733
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,079
was liberal and said you're weird.
It only became like in the nineties and

734
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:46,559
then oughts where the weirdness started to
creep in, and that the strange like

735
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:52,199
regulations and the strange bias in favor
of like crazy people walking on the subway,

736
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:58,960
that that is something that is easily
winnable from an opposition, you know,

737
00:55:59,039 --> 00:56:00,400
political opposition that want to make it. I mean, I remember that's

738
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,039
the one thing that that King Rich
said, king Rich, whatever you think

739
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:09,519
of him, now, political genius
in nineteen ninety four ninety five, and

740
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:16,719
he kept saying, let's just remind
America how weird the left is. Not

741
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:21,519
that that you know, big government
this or that, just how weird it

742
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,159
is and how weird some of their
policies are. UM. And that was

743
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,719
very successful. And I think we're
we had that opportunity now and we're kind

744
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,880
of not taking it, seems people
on the right. UM. But I

745
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,559
still have hope. Okay, by
the way, I'm with both of you.

746
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,920
I'm with James that New York is
important. The one year I lived

747
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,719
in New York, I'll be very
brief about this, but I have experience

748
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,599
of it. The one year in
my life I lived in New York was

749
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:50,039
nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one. Now, this is after we'd won the Cold

750
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:54,039
War. The country had been turned
around. But everybody with whom I spoke

751
00:56:54,079 --> 00:57:00,199
in New York said get out of
here. My wife and I had just

752
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,159
gotten married, we'd had our first
child, and I was asking people an

753
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,159
what I do by an apartment or
just no, here's what you do.

754
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,480
You're still young, leave get out
now. I can remember driving out to

755
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,679
visit people and friends for the weekend
in Bucks County in Pennsylvania and pausing before

756
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,480
going to the Lincoln Tunnel, and
it was totally standard to have the squeege

757
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:24,519
men, the guys who had put
some soap on your window and then you

758
00:57:24,679 --> 00:57:28,679
either paid them something, roll down
your window and paid them something, or

759
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:32,159
they broke off the windshield wiper.
Okay, and then Rudy Giuliani comes along.

760
00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:37,039
We now forget this because we had
a dozen years of Mike Bloomberg.

761
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:39,239
He tends to get the credit for
saving the city. He did do a

762
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,760
lot, I have to grant that. And Rudy himself has now become such

763
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:49,679
a crazy person and so tied up
with all of this election denial. Nevertheless,

764
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:54,199
when he was elected, he transformed
the city. It was an act

765
00:57:54,400 --> 00:58:00,880
of political will. And by then
I had left the property values of all

766
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,119
the apartments I might have bought.
At that time. We're starting to climb.

767
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,039
But my friends in New York were
saying, oh, oh, this

768
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:15,360
we can do it. It's a
choice. It's a choice. You can

769
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:22,239
save the city. It's really important, really important for the whole country that

770
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,920
the results of that experiment should be
preserved, that New York should continue to

771
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,639
function, that the subways get cleaned
up again, and on and on.

772
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,719
Yeah. But I mean my point
is New York is a place to start

773
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,519
in a way it was for so
many a couple of decades. Now the

774
00:58:38,679 --> 00:58:42,280
example of what could be done,
not just New York, New York,

775
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:45,360
Chicago, San Francisco, Portland,
every city in America. A last,

776
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,039
one of the choices that people make
is to stay home in the pajamas and

777
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:52,639
work, which is completely understandable.
It's rational to say I would rather be

778
00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:54,079
home and be comfortable and walk the
dog when I waste them get in my

779
00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:58,519
car, or get on the subway
subway and go someplace and sitting in an

780
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:02,280
office in a teal devil pen and
tap away for eight hours. People don't

781
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,760
want to do that anymore, which
is a rational decision that people make,

782
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,280
and the aggregate consequences of that are
ruinous. When I was in Chicago last

783
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,599
week, as a matter of fact, it's about actually to the moment.

784
00:59:15,679 --> 00:59:20,039
About seven days ago, I was
walking down a rather unremarkable street in Chicago

785
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:24,320
and encountered a couple three buildings which
stood out to me because they were ordinary

786
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,519
and normal. One of them was
the Banker's Building, which was what it

787
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:30,320
was named nineteen twenty four. When
it went up, was presumed to be

788
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,360
twenty five stories when it was announced
they couldn't stop. I guess when they

789
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,679
got going, because it went up
to forty one stories nineteen twenty four.

790
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:42,400
The ornamentation is rather wrote for nineteen
twenty four. The building itself looks a

791
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,159
little bit shabby because they replaced some
bricks with other bricks, but it's huge

792
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:50,480
it's absolutely immense. It's forty one
stories of offices where people worked in.

793
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:53,039
Right next to it is the Field
Building, which has now been renamed,

794
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,800
which went up in the teeth of
the depression when it finished in nineteen thirty

795
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,960
four, forty seven stories. I
think. I say, it's enormous,

796
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:04,159
and the style is different, stripped
down its machine orient it's modernistic. It's

797
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:08,599
the America that's coming and at the
absolute native of capitalism. The Field Company

798
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:10,719
just said, screw it, we're
going to build it, and they built

799
01:00:10,719 --> 01:00:14,599
it. And it's tall. And
that across the street from that is a

800
01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:20,639
nineteen sixties technocratic international style means Vandero
post Office building, which itself is almost

801
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:23,039
piece of abstract sculpture, and it
has a certain black presence to it,

802
01:00:23,159 --> 01:00:28,440
and it's also got an interesting sculpture. So take three of these buildings together,

803
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,360
and each one of them has their
different function in American society. The

804
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,239
post office building, well, we
don't send letters anymore, and nobody looks

805
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:37,400
for the mail. The banker's building, while we all bank online, nobody

806
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,159
goes into a hall anymore and exchanges
coins through a little getting cage. And

807
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,360
the Field Building, while it was
named after a retailed empire, which is

808
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,800
dissolving because everybody wants to shop from
home on Amazon. All of these three

809
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:52,880
paradigms are shifted, but these buildings
remain, and they are absolutely unremarkable for

810
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:55,760
Chicago. In any other city,
they would be monuments. Here, they're

811
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,719
unremarkable because Chicago has so much of
this, sobody tall towers, so someone

812
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,159
being broad shoulders from block to block
to block. And it's great and there's

813
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an energy to it when you just
look at it, and when you study

814
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:12,239
the themes and the styles and the
history of the American twentieth century that's written

815
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:14,880
on all of these facades, you
cannot help but love the city and want

816
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,719
more of it. But you also
feel, looking around at everybody in their

817
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:22,199
pajamas at home, that the time
when America built tall towers is done.

818
01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:28,599
And that's a choice that somehow we
all decided to make. And it's a

819
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,400
bad one, and I don't like
it, and I don't do not know

820
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:35,159
what to do about it, and
I do not want to become marinated in

821
01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:38,440
my own pessimism about that, because
it bleeds into everything else we built up,

822
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:42,800
you know, the Empire State building, when everything else was crashed.

823
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:45,320
We keep going up, and you
know, Elon Musk and the rest of

824
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,840
the guys going up. That's great
in the rocket sense. I like that

825
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,880
there are all You can't apply a
twentieth century paradigm to everything else and expect

826
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,320
the grid to overly perfectly. But
I worry about the death of the cities

827
01:01:55,320 --> 01:02:00,800
because at the height of the American
Renaissance was the renaissance in these cities as

828
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,719
well, where they were pleasant,
interesting, fascinating, artistic, good places

829
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,719
to go. And America is both
the rural, the small town, the

830
01:02:08,199 --> 01:02:12,159
medium sized burg, of which we've
got so many, but it's also the

831
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,159
dethrobbing heart of the metropolis. And
what each one of these places says about

832
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:19,840
America, and I hate to lose
that characteristic and it's difficult. I've made

833
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,119
a rant at the end of the
show where everybody's tuned up. Don't really

834
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:24,039
matter, but I would like to
know. I would just say this,

835
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,280
James, to make you feel better
and worse. At the same time,

836
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,159
they built a huge tower here in
New York City, tall tower in Brooklyn

837
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,639
for people, now I mean in
Manhattan Midtown, for people, for billionaires

838
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:37,960
to live in. And it turns
out the elevators don't work, and so

839
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:43,159
people who have been spending thirty million, forty million dollars these apartments, the

840
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:49,079
things shaking like crazy and the elevators
aren't working. And it's absolute, tiny

841
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:52,639
little seedlet of populism. But somehow
I didn't think existed in the and the

842
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:57,719
harsh soil of my soul has sprouted. And we walked by that building,

843
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:00,760
and everybody place goes. All those
rich guys, they got to take the

844
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:06,079
stairs sometimes. Uh huh are you
talking about Symphony Place? We're talking about

845
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:09,320
billionaires Row right here, which is
a series of super tall buildings. Normally,

846
01:03:09,679 --> 01:03:14,559
the engineering expertise that keeps these things
from waving more than five feet in

847
01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:16,880
the wind, it's pretty good.
But when they built one of these supertalls,

848
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:22,039
they did not factor into well.
My favorite story about one of them

849
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:28,559
is that the it's got a trash
shoot naturally, and when people throw down

850
01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:35,320
eight stories of something rocketing down because
right because what they eat, and the

851
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,360
pipe snap because it sways a little
bit too much. Each one has their

852
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:43,039
own little dampening mechanisms. So I
know, I just I am. I

853
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:47,280
hate the supertalls. They're they're architecturally
meretricious. So I'm I am glad that

854
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,079
that and then a Brooklyn tall.
You just want too tall, You're just

855
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:52,960
no satisfy. I am just the
Goldilocks and these. No. I want

856
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,800
tall, and I want too tall, but I want it to be for

857
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,480
a mixed use thing, and I
wanted to be sturdy, not some little

858
01:03:58,519 --> 01:04:01,760
slender read in the restiume on.
Speaking of which, I would love to

859
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,639
say that there's a New York meet
up coming soon. But Robbie can catch

860
01:04:05,679 --> 01:04:08,880
us up on where the meetups are
going to be. Well listen, well,

861
01:04:09,079 --> 01:04:10,719
maybe we should have a New York
meet up. If you're interested,

862
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,199
let's set up. Um okay,
uh, there's a bunch of meetup stuff.

863
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:16,360
If you are not a member Ricochet, why are you not a member

864
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,800
Ricochet? Join and come to the
IRL events. They're the most fun.

865
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:23,639
That's the perk of being a member. Here perk of joining the club,

866
01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:27,800
and we want you to join.
PJS open invitation to Yankees game this week.

867
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,599
So um, I hope somebody took
her up on. Western Chauvinist has

868
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:34,159
acquired about members in the UK.
The Western Chauvinis is gonna be in the

869
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:39,360
UK later this month. So let
it know you know, Um, Tory

870
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,079
war Writer is back and hoping to
meet members in or around Columbus, Ohio

871
01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:46,719
in late June. Uh. Columbus
is a beautiful city. It really is

872
01:04:46,719 --> 01:04:49,920
a beautiful city. Um. People
aways forget about Columbus. This isix Cincinnati,

873
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:57,039
Cleveland, Columbus is beautiful. Um. And Randy's got another meetup uh

874
01:04:57,639 --> 01:05:00,000
set for Winston Salem mid July.
UM, so lots of stuff is happening

875
01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:03,679
in the summer. Matt Balters also
ask you for rsp peas for the annual

876
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,480
German Fest meetup in Milwaukee. That's
also the last weekend in July. UM

877
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,800
lots stuff. So uh if none
of these for some reason work for you,

878
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,079
because you are somewhere else or you're
not around that time, here is

879
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:18,159
the simple solution. You simply join
Ricochet, put up a post in the

880
01:05:18,199 --> 01:05:20,559
member feed, say hey, how
about a meetup here or there. At

881
01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:27,960
this point it is a guarantee that
Ricochet members will come. That's what we

882
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:31,960
do. We show up and have
a lovely conversation, set of conversations,

883
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,119
and hoisted drink or two and make
some jokes. And it's an incredibly lovely

884
01:05:35,159 --> 01:05:40,159
group, and we want you to
join bub and we're gonna and so James,

885
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:41,719
you and I want to talk about
a New York time. We'll have

886
01:05:41,719 --> 01:05:44,800
to set. We'll have to because
I don't want to deprive you of an

887
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,320
opportunity to come to New York so
you can walk around and get depressed.

888
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:49,800
No, I won't be depressed.
I will be elevated by the beating of

889
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:54,679
the architecture, as I inevitably am
depressed when I leave, but happy to

890
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,960
do so because after about three or
four days, I always look in New

891
01:05:57,039 --> 01:06:00,960
York and say you win, and
sort of slink out of town with the

892
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:04,119
din still echoing in my ears to
quiet Mini Rob. I'm still thinking,

893
01:06:04,199 --> 01:06:09,480
can I get a job as a
Domino's pizza delivery guy? Because I'm thinking

894
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,719
that if you have to walk up
sixty flights of stairs to deliver a pizza

895
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,000
to a billionaire, you get a
pretty good tip. When was the last

896
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:24,239
time, Peter, that you met
a billionaire who was a good kipper or

897
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,639
who ordered from Domino's. Peter,
the point you make, I think after

898
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,840
the sixtieth floor, they land on
the helicopter pad at the top of the

899
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,199
roof and the guy just repels down
the window, you know, Batman style,

900
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:39,360
and drops it in. That's it. We're done. It's been fun,

901
01:06:39,559 --> 01:06:41,920
great time. Good to talk to
you guys again. And I might

902
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,480
not be here next week because I
may be off again. I'll last.

903
01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:48,199
I'm sure you'll carry on. Thanks
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904
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,280
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905
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:56,079
why aren't you no excuse? And
it would it be a podcast if

906
01:06:56,119 --> 01:06:59,239
I didn't end by asking you begging
you to give us a five star review

907
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:00,840
on Apple Podcast, it would not. I just did that, So that

908
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,599
means we're done. We'll see everybody
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