1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,160 Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on the Paranormal UK Radio Network. Let me 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,439 know when you've got your instruments ready and I need all the figures I can 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:51,840 get. Good Daytail. This is sir Patrick More and you're listening for the 4 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,960 Paranormal the UK Radio Network, the UK's biggest paranormal radio network, and this 5 00:00:58,079 --> 00:01:03,760 is Paranormal Dimensions. David Young, I am your friend. I am here 6 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:19,280 to help you. I want you to think you're going to remember things now. 7 00:01:22,239 --> 00:01:25,640 Hello, Welcome to the show. As always, I'm David Young. 8 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:30,640 This is show number one hundred and ninety three. Now I'm saying that because 9 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:33,959 it's five years since I did the first show, but apparently what you go 10 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:38,239 Readio network five years, I can't believe it. Anyway, Before anything else, 11 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:44,840 I must wish our us manager of the network, Mark Johnson, will 12 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,840 he's been taken ill over the last week and he's in hospital at the moment. 13 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,120 He had a heart attack and he's having some bypasses as I understand it 14 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:56,079 in the States. So wish you will. Mark, you'll so be up 15 00:01:56,079 --> 00:01:57,959 and about and back with us. You know, we all wish you the 16 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,120 best. Okay for this show. My guest is a young lady that I 17 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,599 met a little while back in Manchester once again at the Awakening conference. The 18 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,199 names that Yvette McLain. When I heard a short rendition of her story, 19 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,400 I thought I've got to get her on the show because it was fascinating. 20 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:19,919 Actually, I'm pretty sure you're going to enjoy listening to her. This is 21 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,680 actually her first time on a radio show, so I'm very honest to have 22 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:28,080 her on. So, without any further ado, i'd like to introduce to 23 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:34,639 you Yvette McLain. Hello Vett, Welcome to the show. Hello David, 24 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:38,639 how are you doing? I am doing fine, apart from being freezing cold 25 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,479 here in the UK, and you're in the UK as well, as I 26 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:46,680 understand, Yes, Simon Stafford, sure yes Stafford. And it is cold 27 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:52,520 out here too. You're not that the flood flooded country I use there's a 28 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,080 lot of floods over here as well. At the moment, there was a 29 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,199 lot of floods out here as well. It was crazy. Yeah, there 30 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:06,800 was certain parking lots that you couldn't go into or a car actually got stuck. 31 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:12,520 We have this guy out here who he shoots the area like certain areas 32 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,960 with his drone and he were part of his group. So he was showing 33 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:20,719 us this car was trying to get through and then they got stuck. Oh 34 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:23,879 well, I've seen a few bits on YouTube and things like that were people 35 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,360 driving into great big puddles and disappear under water. It's crazy, you know, 36 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:31,639 it's like your cars and their car is small. I'm like, you're 37 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:39,039 you're not in a truck or a submarine or right. But anyway, I 38 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,560 mean, apparently it's just been announced that there was the hottest year on record. 39 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:51,319 I'm still I'm still to be convinced of that. Well it was we're 40 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,680 hot in the UK, well all over the world apparently. Oh yes, 41 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,719 yes, that was like yes, I actually sortally disagreement all that. Anyway, 42 00:04:00,639 --> 00:04:03,800 all the thing about man made global war, we won't go into that, 43 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:10,879 but my opinion, that is a loadable topic. So you think it's 44 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,560 just made up, Yeah, Well, they're actually read they're actually reading things 45 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,759 differently to what they used to Apparently they used it, they're taking it from 46 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:21,680 a different place, and they talk about a lot of the weather as if 47 00:04:23,079 --> 00:04:25,839 they could measure it like ten thousand years ago. And I mean, the 48 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,360 who has been measuring the weather ten thousand years ago. Now we know in 49 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:32,800 the UK, for instance, that the Romans used to go grapes over here 50 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,759 because it was so warm. So how did they manage that, you know, 51 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,279 when they when they were living here, they used to have grapevines and 52 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:45,360 things. So how they can say that the UK is warmed than it's ever 53 00:04:45,399 --> 00:04:47,680 been. I don't know, But you go, that's that's my that's my 54 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:54,680 take on it. But we won't go, we won't go. Yeah. 55 00:04:55,399 --> 00:05:00,839 Anyway, you and I briefly met at the Awakening conference in the Manchester when 56 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:06,480 you were talking to food were very good friends. Yes, I wanted to 57 00:05:06,519 --> 00:05:13,160 hear their stories and kind of compare my experiences with theirs and just to kind 58 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,399 of, you know, compare the differences and such. They it seemed like 59 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:21,560 they had it really tough though they had a bad, negative experience versus to 60 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:27,439 mine. So it's just interesting to take. I think there were similarities from 61 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,920 what we see from yours. Yes, yeah, so that's it's like they 62 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,680 just you never know, like I heard stories that you know, the other 63 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:43,600 beings or whoever they are, they do something to you where you're you're not 64 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,439 really I don't know, it's like they message your mind. So those are 65 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:53,120 some stories that I heard as well. But I my experience was just like 66 00:05:53,160 --> 00:06:00,199 I I've known them for a long time, and yeah, it was just 67 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,519 like they were a family. So you feel that connection type of thing. 68 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:10,079 Yeah, I feel like I felt that connection that I knew them, and 69 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,759 yeah, it was very interesting experience. Before we get into it, well, 70 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:17,639 what did you think of the Whitening conference? Did you enjoy it? 71 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:25,160 Oh? Yes, it was my first conference ever. I've been wanting to 72 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:28,000 go to one, even when I was in the States, I just never 73 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,240 had the time. So when I heard that they were coming out here and 74 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:38,079 then you know, just find out who was in the panels. So I 75 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:44,079 was very interested and I was by myself. Yeah, I just wanted to 76 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,199 go and hang out and just get to meet other people with their experiences and 77 00:06:49,439 --> 00:06:55,279 especially hear the stories of all the researchers. I wish i'd had logo to 78 00:06:55,319 --> 00:06:58,199 talk to you. You know, from what I saw, your story was 79 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,480 interesting. Absolutely. Who was your favorite? Who would you say was your 80 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:10,399 most interesting person that you listened to? Question? No, that's no, 81 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:17,720 there's gosh, there's so much. Well, I listened to Coast to Coast 82 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,240 a lot, do you, George Nay, Yeah, George nap. So 83 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:25,720 I listened to him a lot. When I listened to Coast to Coast, 84 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,240 I listened to a lot of YouTube, so it could be I watched a 85 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:39,240 lot of James Fox. I watched a lot of his films and I don't 86 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:43,240 know, I just have a mixture. I have to say from the event, 87 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,680 I would say my favorite is James Fox. That that was his work 88 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,319 was really good. That's that was so well the world deserved. That's a 89 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:57,639 wald got as well. What they called it the still Sitters of the Ward. 90 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,480 I think that's what I call it for. And it's so well deserved 91 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,480 because his documentaries over the years have been fantastic moment of contact, right yeah, 92 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,079 yeah, and he's really put his career on the line a couple of 93 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:16,759 times, you know with it. Yeah. I also follow him on Twitter, 94 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:22,000 so you know, just to hear things that he's that he said about 95 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,319 certain things. And he's actually coming out with a new film. I don't 96 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:28,439 remember what it's called, but I know that he's working on it just by 97 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,920 following. Yeah. Yeah, he's constantly working. But did you did you 98 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:35,799 get Charles to say hello to you. Yes I did. I got a 99 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,799 putograph and everything that. Yeah, it's a very nice guy. Actually was 100 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:43,200 he had plenty of time to talk to people, didn't he, And you 101 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,320 know, yeah, he made time. Well, he's like I always wanted 102 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,840 to meet Nick Pope because I have ancient aliens on all the time. So 103 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:56,639 oh I do too. I love I called him a good friend actually because 104 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:01,360 if ever A texted me, he answers almost immediately, you know, and 105 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,919 he's helped me in the past with a couple of things which I won't go 106 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,600 into on this show. But so now I like Nick a lot. He's 107 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:13,919 another one that gave a lot of his time to people there. You know, 108 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,039 I've got a lot of great, great respect for him. Two that 109 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:24,039 was really respectful. I guess I wasn't. I was going and not knowing 110 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,559 what my experience would be. And how you know, when you go places 111 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,840 and it's kind of difficult for you to meet like people who are out there, 112 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,120 and yeah, you know, so it was. It was a very 113 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,679 it was a surreal experience to be able to speak to all of them, 114 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,399 and you know, even if it was five to ten minutes of their time, 115 00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:48,120 it was just it was worthwhile. I will be. I'll be at 116 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:52,440 tenn in the one next year. Well this is this year, yah. 117 00:09:52,879 --> 00:09:56,480 Are you going to the mini there's a mini one right in February March. 118 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,639 Yeah, Unfortunately, I won't be. I've actually been offered ticket for it 119 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:05,080 through there's a there's a bit been going on behind the scenes, but I 120 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,919 can't really go into it on here. But no, I can't actually attend 121 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:13,639 the February one. I'm still thinking about the other one, unfortunately. And 122 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,559 I did promise my wife last year I was going to cut back a bit 123 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:20,120 and save a bit of money. You know, you spend hundreds on it, 124 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:24,080 don't you. So I've unfortunately, You've got to keep my promise. 125 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:26,639 I'm just going to Memphis in the US. We're big Elvis fans, you 126 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,679 see. So we're just going to Gracelan and Memphis and all that sort of 127 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,759 stuff and go to Tip you know, just doing in Elvis a few days 128 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:41,159 and then sort of going over to Chattanooga in Georgia. We're planning to but 129 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,559 I'm hoping to sort of have a couple of paranormal tours and things in between, 130 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,679 like you do ghost hunts and things you know, I don't know if 131 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:58,279 that type of thing, but yes, ghost shows. Yeah, oh wow, 132 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,679 that would be fun. But anyway, let's get into your story, 133 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:09,159 because it's your story really kind of intrigues me because as we were saying, 134 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,399 you're you're, You've got some connections that kind of go with food and Ronnie's 135 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,159 experiences, which I've had lready on the show several times in the past. 136 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:24,120 And I mean, there might be people out there listening to this and don't 137 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:28,480 know about their their experiences, but you have got some similar experiences, but 138 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,879 not entirely similar, because Ronnie and had some quite nasty experiences, but you've 139 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,759 kind of got something a little bit different to that. Yeah, So how 140 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:46,000 did that all start? Well, there's always been certain things that have experienced, 141 00:11:46,519 --> 00:11:50,519 Like for there's one that kind of I don't remember it, but my 142 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,320 dad's ever since he told me it, just I've always wanted to know, 143 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:01,039 like, why would I come up with the story like that at such a 144 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,840 young age. So I think I was if I can remember, I may 145 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:11,360 have been like either six, seven or eight. It was around that time 146 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,519 frame. Yeah, this is in the US, in Arizona, because that's 147 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:22,519 originally from where I'm from and my dad told me that I, you know, 148 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,360 woke up and I told him this long story that I had a dream 149 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:33,000 about the world ending. But he said, what what you know just caught 150 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:37,279 his attention was I was very detailed about it, like I was pointing out 151 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,559 certain things, and I'm like, well, did you write it down? 152 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,720 But no, he didn't write it down, but he just said that, 153 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:46,559 you know, he found it very odd. And I, you know, 154 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:52,840 I don't remember the dream. I don't remember telling my dad anything, but 155 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,799 just the way that he, you know, described it to me that I 156 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,960 was in going into detail about how the world was going to end, you 157 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,799 know, but I mean what six seven or eight year old's gonna I mean, 158 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,639 I don't know. Yeah, So that always, you know, caught 159 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:16,120 my attention. And throughout the years, I've had some pair you know, 160 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:24,399 paranormal experience and such where I've seen you know, certain shadows or beans, 161 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:30,240 but it's always like, how can I describe it? It's always like just 162 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,960 when they were walking away and I saw the back of them, and so 163 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:43,240 so those are certain things that happened. But the most experience that happened to 164 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:50,240 me, when I would say it was either twenty eighteen. Yes, I 165 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:54,320 would say it's twenty eighteen. And it was right before I was going to 166 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,320 be moving out here. I was in living in these apartments in Avangel, 167 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:05,919 Arizona, and they are two story apartments and I have two kids, and 168 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:11,440 at that time, they stayed the night with my my ex mother in law, 169 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,600 so they're at the grandmother's house and I had the TV on and I 170 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:22,879 was sleeping on my I fell asleep on my couch and I while I was 171 00:14:22,919 --> 00:14:28,440 sleeping, I was like, must have been like slowly coming out of, 172 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:33,559 you know, me being asleep. I heard like a robotic voice in my 173 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:39,799 ear saying numbers like it was they were They could have been like one one, 174 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,600 two to eight eight seven seven, something like that in that pattern, 175 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,120 and it woke me up. And then I was thinking, oh, you 176 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:54,480 know, it's probably my TV that I'm hearing, but it scared me enough 177 00:14:54,559 --> 00:15:00,240 to wake me up, and I was just trying to recollect myself and like, 178 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,840 say, okay, am I going crazy? And I looked at the 179 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:07,000 TV and I'm just trying to concentrate to hear if it was a TV like 180 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:11,919 maybe it was a commercial or something that was on. And the next thing 181 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:18,360 you know, the numbers came in again, but I was awake and I 182 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:24,080 was so scared out of my mind. I'm like, am I going crazy? 183 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:30,480 I didn't want to tell anybody what I experienced because it just sounds crazy. 184 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,720 So and again the numbers. It was like a like a mill robotic 185 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:43,120 voice and it was like one one eight eight, like saying these numbers and 186 00:15:43,799 --> 00:15:48,600 so yeah, So that happened, and I was just like panicking and wondering 187 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:52,360 what is going on in me? But it didn't last for long and that 188 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:54,919 was it. I mean, and I couldn't go to sleep for the life 189 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,960 of me. I try to go to sleep tide bite. I ended up 190 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,279 staying up for like twenty four hours, and eventually when the light came up, 191 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,159 I you know, I eventually went to sleep. So that was that 192 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,600 experience. So you never figured out what that was or the things. No, 193 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:18,879 I never I never asked. I was like, I literally was just 194 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,480 too scared to tell anybody because I didn't want them to think, Okay, 195 00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:30,000 you're you're crazy or you know how people are they That sounds verych that sounds 196 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:32,919 very familiar. I don't know if you've heard of Jim Peniston, who was 197 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:38,480 involved with the Rendos from uphone incident in the nineteen eighty when I know Jim, 198 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,960 I know Jim quite well when he was getting the binary code downloads, 199 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,960 and he thought he was going crazy because he was writing all these binary numbers 200 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,679 in a notebook and I think he wrote about sixteen seventeen pages of it and 201 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,000 it was all ones and zero. Oh my gosh. And he never told 202 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,200 me. He said, very si, very much what you said about. 203 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:00,159 You know, he thought he was going crazy, and he didn't want to 204 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,759 talk to talk to anyone about it until sort of many many years later, 205 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,839 you know. And did it happen to him more than one night or more 206 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:17,359 than one occasion, as I understand it, because he was supposed to, 207 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:21,720 he says, and I believe him, that he touched the craft in Rendelsham 208 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,000 and they touched these emblems that were on the craft and apparently from that he 209 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:33,039 got a download the ones and zero's overnight type of thing. And it was 210 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:37,519 that kind of overnight. Whether he got any more than that, I don't 211 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:41,599 know, but he could always remember those same numbers ones and zero's, but 212 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:48,519 in the sequence that they came down. They've actually been analyzed since and he's 213 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:52,680 written a book with a chap named Gary Osborne. Why actually facts, I 214 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,519 mean, it might be an idea for you to talk to Gary, someone 215 00:17:56,519 --> 00:18:00,720 like Gary Osborne to see if he can actually come up with anything, because 216 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:07,799 he actually works a lot with the pyramids in the in obviously Egypt and everywhere 217 00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:11,319 else and he does a lot of measurements and things. But he's got the 218 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,599 follow up book coming out soon about the you know, the lot of Jim's 219 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:22,119 experiences with the downloads. Wow. Yeah, it's quite an involved story to 220 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,759 sort of cover within a couple of minutes. It's you know, it's but 221 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:30,319 I would like that if he can send his information over. Yeah, I'll 222 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,119 try and put you in touch with Gary because I think it would be interesting 223 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,000 to talk to him about your your download experiences, because that's what it sounds 224 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:41,240 like to me, right. I feel like they were trying to connect with 225 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,559 me, and they you know, they try to connect with me while I 226 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:51,480 was asleep, and they try to connect with me when I was awake, 227 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,119 and I think like, sometimes, you know, maybe they were I don't 228 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,359 know, because I wish that they would they would do it again and so 229 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,480 that I can, you know, understand but maybe they felt that I was 230 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:10,640 so scared and I don't know. I just think I think the question you 231 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,079 have to ask is why would they pick you? Is there a connection there 232 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,640 that you probably are not are nunaware of, or you've forgotten about all, 233 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,359 or you've been put here for a reason. You know that that's kind of 234 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,400 the reason why they picked you for that, I think is a question answered. 235 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,720 I want to know, like why was why were they were those what 236 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:37,960 are those numbers mean? And why did they do it? Only once? 237 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:44,960 You know, because there is times that you're going to laugh. Another time 238 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,079 that my kids went to their grandparents' house, I tried to relive the moment, 239 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:52,039 right, So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna leave the TV 240 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,400 on, I'm gonna lay on the couch and and see if it would happen 241 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,359 again. And no, And you know, and since then, I've always 242 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,920 was wondering, you know, if it would happen again. But something else 243 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:11,680 happened, which was much more. Ah, this one was very touching and 244 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:21,319 you know, very emotional. And what's interesting is that whatever it was that 245 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,960 happened to me in Arizona followed me here in the UK. Wow, So 246 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:33,680 I can just tell you this story. So one night, you know, 247 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:41,480 just like a normal night, going to bed, and my husband is sleeps 248 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:42,799 on the left of me, so IM sleep on the right side of the 249 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:48,240 bed, and then on the right side of me. My dog sleeps on 250 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:57,839 the on the floor. So one night I have this trying to describe it 251 00:21:00,839 --> 00:21:07,640 where I got woken up. But I felt like I got woken up from 252 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:15,599 somebody placing me into my bed. But it was like it was like if 253 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,599 they were placing me into my bed, but I didn't feel them carrying me 254 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:29,240 or anything like that. And what woke me up was the gentle touch from 255 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,400 when I felt like they put me into my bed. Does that make sense? 256 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:38,279 I must have been I don't know if they if I was floating and 257 00:21:38,319 --> 00:21:44,400 then well I just landed, I mean, was going back into my bed. 258 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:51,960 I didn't. I felt that little soft nudge and I was trying to 259 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:56,759 wake up, and it was like I was coming out of surgery. You 260 00:21:56,799 --> 00:22:04,319 know, when they put you under what is it called at least is it 261 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,359 when they put you when they put you down and then you're coming up from 262 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,319 that. I've not had that very often, luckily, but it felt like 263 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:22,920 I was trying to come up. So when I was able to open one 264 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:27,119 eye a little bit, because it felt like I was on like it felt 265 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:32,200 like I was on medication m M. And you know that they put you 266 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,039 when you're in surgery and you're coming out of that, when you're trying to 267 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:41,160 get you up to when your minds will fogy and such. And I saw 268 00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:45,839 an opening in my ceiling, the hold in the ceiling. I mean, 269 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:52,640 that sounds very familiar to Philip Ronny's story. Theirs was a bit more freaky, 270 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,920 I should say. Yeah, So it was an opening, and then 271 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:07,279 I got like this feeling that Okay, So I saw three beans and behind 272 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,200 them they were like silhouettes, and behind them was so bright it was like 273 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:15,039 you couldn't see behind them, so you can just see their shadows, like 274 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,799 I mean, like there's silhouettes. There's two small beans on this side of 275 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:23,519 them, and then one tall bean in the middle. O. That sounds 276 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:29,440 right for me, right? And I hear this a lot too. And 277 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:33,559 the feeling that I got was I was crying, like like I was trying 278 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:38,119 to cry, and I got sad because I got a sense that they were 279 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,480 saying goodbye, like I wasn't I'm not going to see them for a while, 280 00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:45,519 Like it was weird, and and I was like telling them, I 281 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:49,759 don't know, it wasn't. It was like don't go. And it was 282 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:55,599 like I was saying, don't go. When am I going to see you 283 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,960 again? And then I just got that feeling like everything's gonna be okay. 284 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,559 But I was like really emotional and I can oh, my gosh, I 285 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:15,680 can't even remember my left eye. There was like a small little tear and 286 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,839 then I just like closed my eyes and went back to bed. And then 287 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:26,240 that was it. Do you feel you were actually physically lifted out of that 288 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:29,359 bed and put back or do you think it might have been an astral trouble 289 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,440 top thing, you know what, I don't know because I don't. I 290 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:41,400 don't know if I was, Yeah, that's that's since the only thing is 291 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:47,880 I felt like like if somebody put me, it's like being really sneaky putting 292 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,039 me back into bed. And I barely felt like just a little movement because 293 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,519 and then it woke me up, which is I don't It's just a weird 294 00:24:56,279 --> 00:25:04,839 thing to to, you know, to kind of describe if if I was 295 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:11,799 left in the bed, and it was astro travel. I wonder, why 296 00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:15,920 would I have felt that somebody was placing me back in the bed mm hmm. 297 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,880 But you know it could just it could be either or. And but 298 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:29,079 I just wondered, why would they show their self too? I mean, 299 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,279 you say your husband was president? Did he ever was he aware of that? 300 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:37,200 Was aware of any thing? Even my dog? Right? Like why 301 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:44,119 didn't my dog start barking? And why didn't my husband say anything? So 302 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,559 that was one thing where I was like, well, they were, they 303 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,759 were, They're there all the time, So why did you speak to him? 304 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:56,920 Oftenard was about it. Yeah, I told him the story and he 305 00:25:56,039 --> 00:26:03,079 was like, I, okay, Well he's not very He probably just said 306 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:07,000 you had a bad treable or something, was it. He just didn't say 307 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:15,519 anything at all. Oh yeah, he's not supportive in that area. You 308 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:21,200 know other people that I've told their some of them said, well at the 309 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,799 event because I didn't really open up until from the event and such like I 310 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:32,400 told my kids and my husband, but they're just they're not very supportive. 311 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:38,079 Well, sometimes my daughter is because she's like, oh, I wonder that's 312 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:44,480 so weird, or maybe that you know who knows and as I understand that. 313 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:47,400 I mean, I'll say this now. Apparently this is the first time 314 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,279 you bet he told this story. So I must say thank you very much 315 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:55,839 for choosing this show to come on to tell you. Oh, thank you 316 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,720 for you know, for even inviting me to do this show. I've always 317 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:07,039 wanted to share and just to hear what other you know, other people's experiences. 318 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:11,960 But since then, and you know, it's it's weird because when I've 319 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:15,640 kept it to myself, I had more experiences, and then the moment I 320 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:22,240 started opening up, it seems like it started dying down. I don't know, 321 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,200 yes, I mean, the good thing is now, I think now 322 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:32,079 you started going through conferences and you'll start to meet people. Hopefully you'll you'll 323 00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:37,359 get in such with a few mont more people through this show. I think 324 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,680 you'll probably hear and you may well be invited to other shows as well, 325 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:49,839 So you better get ready for the for the roid. No, I I 326 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,440 most definitely want to, you know, meet other people and get to learn 327 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:59,960 their experiences and just to find out like I just wanted, you know, 328 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:07,519 I'm so interested in talking to somebody who experienced it and continues to experience it, 329 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,200 whereas mine would only happen like once and you know, in so many 330 00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:19,880 months, or like again that time where they were here and I saw them 331 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,279 and they were saying their goodbyes, it was like they told me that they 332 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,519 were going to like I felt like they're like they weren't going to be gone 333 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,720 forever, like I was going to see them again, just no soon. 334 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,519 And I must point out, you're you're actually still young, aren't you. 335 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:44,000 So there's plenty of time left within your life that they could well reappear at 336 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,160 some point, and you'll probably never know when it's going to be exactly. 337 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:55,079 I know, I've always what you know, Just you know, sometimes I 338 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,960 look in the sky and I'm like, just I will like because I'm also 339 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:03,440 into astronomy, so I like to look in the sky and if it's a 340 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,720 Clearinady'll take up my telescope. And we don't get too any of those, 341 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,880 I know, we don't. So it's like I can't wait to take a 342 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,160 trip back to Arizona and go into the desert and just camp out and look 343 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,720 at the stars. You never know something might happen to me when I go 344 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:27,160 back there, because I sometimes travel to Sedona, Arizona. Oh right, 345 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,160 yes, the beautiful town. Yeah, I'll be that's Arizona quite a few 346 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,079 songs. Actually, it's I really love it. It gets cold and it 347 00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:40,960 gets very hot. That's right. That's right. Yeah, I've heard. 348 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,240 Sorry, as I was like to say that the very first trip I ever 349 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,559 went to Arizona was driving from California and I ended up in Yuma, And 350 00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:55,279 that particular day I arrived in Yuma, Arizona was the hottly Stone record. 351 00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:59,400 I think it was one hundred and sixteen or something like that, that's how 352 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,519 zone. Yeah, that was nineteen that was nineteen ninety, and I remember 353 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:07,519 the Hostale record. They were announcing that they arrived there. So I don't 354 00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:10,960 think it's easy to do with me. It's just the way it was, 355 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,400 you know, anyway, So I'm sorry about it. But so yeah, 356 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:22,000 I do know Arizona pretty will yes you My Arizona is really hot. Yeah, 357 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:26,200 it can get very very cold too, as Yeah, that's right. 358 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:32,799 It's it's an interesting you're just speaking of that they got snow. They got 359 00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:37,720 snow in scott Stille, Arizona yesterday and the day before yesterday, so what 360 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,480 I think was the seventh and eighth, they got a lot of snow out 361 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,119 there, so I know a lot of that is perfectly area, isn't it. 362 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,200 I mean we did we did as we did a horse riding in the 363 00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:52,720 Scottsdale area actually into the where they've got some big cactus and things there. 364 00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:59,039 It's a nice to go horse riding, Yes, to do the trails, 365 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,640 I've done that before. Or you have to try camping out there and just 366 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,480 looking at the stars, especially when you go up north to like flag Staff. 367 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:14,160 It's so yeah, and so all those places. So here we're we 368 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,400 are going, you must before going back again. Yeah, I will be 369 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,680 won't be going back this year, but definitely next year for Christmas time m 370 00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:26,200 hm. And it will be quite cold then, oh yes, yes, 371 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:33,920 but you should get some nice clear skies. I'm going to take my taloscope 372 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:38,960 and bring all my gear and just look at the stars and the skies every 373 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,480 night i'm out there. So when you do that, if you go alone 374 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:49,359 or does your family go? No, Actually I'm going to be going with 375 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,480 my dad and I do have some friends, so I'll see if anybody wants 376 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:59,400 to hitch up. But if not, I do plant on going to Sedona 377 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,640 and staying there for a couple of nights with my husband. He just I'll 378 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:14,000 watch the sky by myself. But you'll have set up right actually when you 379 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,279 go, when you walk down the town, then they've got these drums you 380 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:20,480 can bang, haven't I and the symbols and bells and things you can ring. 381 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,680 Yeah, it's very spiritual. You'll see that. There's a lot of 382 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,759 spiritual things going on. And but yeah, there's actually been sightings since the 383 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:37,480 Jonah Arizona, a lot of sightings there they have. Yeah, I remember 384 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:42,680 when I was I think I was twelve or thirteen, but that's when the 385 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:49,000 phoenix lights remember that or that? Yeah, bigg yes, yes, I 386 00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:57,359 remember that. And when I was that young, I was very that's the 387 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,279 word. I didn't believe it. I was like, oh, it's probably 388 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:07,240 you know, our military or something. Well, yeah, that's the story 389 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,640 they were putting out, that they were flaers and things. Yeah, so 390 00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:17,839 obviously a cap of story you're doing exactly. So now that I'm an adult, 391 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,920 I'm like, no, that that had to be something whateverre too even 392 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,039 to be flairs anyway, they would have been going sort of. They were 393 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,480 too much in the line, wasn't they And it was like a big f 394 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,319 shaped object. I don't know if if they're stationary yea, yeah, there 395 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:43,279 were. They were too stationary for them to be flares because after a certain 396 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,720 amount of time you can tell that it's a flair because it starts to drop 397 00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:49,799 down. Yeah, that's what I was saying. So then and one of 398 00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:54,720 want to fight before another and things like that. Yes, so yeah, 399 00:33:54,799 --> 00:34:00,119 that was that's interesting. So many people saw it from different angles as well, 400 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,920 and obviously there's been bits of film and photos and things. But obviously 401 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,199 camera camera's works are good thing as they all now. Yeah, you know 402 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,880 we can never get any good photos of UFOs, can we unportiately? Right? 403 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,920 Yes, it's just interesting to know, like what was it doing in 404 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:28,320 the sky as well? Yeah, yeah, it's really big. It was 405 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,039 huge. I think even the governor of Arizona didn't he come out. I 406 00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:36,199 think I can't remember what his name was now, but he was trying to 407 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,280 make fun of it, wasn't he And that's right. But he did actually 408 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,599 a few years like, he did actually apologize and so there was actually something 409 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,440 to it that he does but he doesn't know what. So yes, that's 410 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,639 right, he did apologize and he did say that he saw something too right 411 00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:00,920 and he had his own UFO sighting. So it's interesting to know because it 412 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:07,639 was so massive, Like how me being an Arizona not a lot of the 413 00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:14,400 people were even like considering that it would be you know, it was real 414 00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,320 because of what the media and you know, your own government. Yeah, 415 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,039 because you so there's always more people watching the TV than there are actual witnesses 416 00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:30,159 to the event. So for them to be able to put a story out, 417 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,159 you know, it happens with everything, doesn't it. So the people 418 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,039 just believes the story. This goes out on the TV. So unless you're 419 00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:39,960 a witness to some of these things, when you know what they're putting out 420 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,679 on TV is not what you actually saw, yes, you know. And 421 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:52,039 you know what's interesting is I didn't see it, but because I was so 422 00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:57,920 fixated on the comment, because that's that time where the comment was out, 423 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,599 and that was that I was more interested in the comic because I'm like, 424 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,320 wow, what is that? And I that's when you know, I started 425 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,079 getting interested in astronomy and my dad told me it's a comment and I'm like, 426 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:12,880 well, why does it look like that? It is it going to 427 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,679 hit us? Because it looked really close and he said, no, it's 428 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:21,920 it's eyes. It's made of ice rock and the reason why you could see 429 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,400 its tail is because that's like the particle's coming off of the rock. And 430 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:35,960 yeah, so interested, So, yeah, that's true. And a lot 431 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,519 of people were so fixated on it because you know, Arizona has clear sky, 432 00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:45,719 so you would think that more people would have seen the lights because we 433 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,559 were always looking up in the sky, like every day I would be like 434 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,519 looking for the comet, and but I didn't didn't. I wasn't close enough 435 00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:58,000 to see the lights because where I was living at you wouldn't be able to 436 00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,800 see it from my end. Probably would need to be a high But yes, 437 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,639 so you've actually had the UFO experiences yourself. Also you've seen a couple. 438 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:15,719 Yes, I have, as a matter of fact. It's weird. 439 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:23,599 But it was in the backyard here and this is when I drew and it 440 00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:29,079 was kind of cloudy, but I was looking up and I took my dog 441 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:35,760 out and I saw it was so quick though, but what I saw was 442 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,000 like it was like a triangle. But I don't know if it was a 443 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:46,960 triangle. You know how everybody talks about those triangle UFOs. This one I 444 00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:52,000 have to show you it because it's just like the way that it didn't look 445 00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:57,000 like a regular plane, because we do get planes that kind of come through 446 00:37:57,039 --> 00:38:04,960 here, and we have you know, where we live is close to Manchester 447 00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:12,440 Airport and then also Birmingham, right and so but Manchester there, it looks 448 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,679 like we're in the way were of their flight zone, so planes always come 449 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:22,119 out and we can see them. But this was actually much closer than the 450 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:30,320 planes. So I was I thought it would be those the smaller planes that 451 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,719 kind of come through here, because we also have a small little airport that 452 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:45,400 they fly out personal airplanes what are they called airplanes? Private airplanes, And 453 00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:47,760 but you could hear them, right, you could hear those planes, so 454 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,519 I would always know that it's coming because I could hear it. But what 455 00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,559 this was, It was so fast, but I was only able to see 456 00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:00,400 half of it because the other half was hidden by the cloud, and I 457 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:06,199 possibly was only able to sit for two seconds, but it was like half 458 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,039 It looked like a triangle because I only was able to see half, and 459 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:16,960 then I saw maybe like one light or two. Like I said, it 460 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,960 was so hard because it was just you have to look at it. It 461 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:28,159 had a metallic base and yeah, so that was one time where I was 462 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,199 able to see something that close. It was here, and then we went 463 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,039 to what is that party that you guys have or some people throw a party 464 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:45,800 for that Eurovision? Oh Eurovision? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 465 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:53,000 the the pain of Yeah, it's the Eurovision song contest where we unfortunately 466 00:39:53,199 --> 00:40:00,639 get involved in. Yeah said yeah, okay, so our friends the worst 467 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,320 music on the planet, I would say most of the time, Yeah, 468 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,239 it is. When I first got introduced, I was like, what the 469 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:15,079 heck is this? Yeah, you get all sorts of freaks on the I 470 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:19,000 know, some of those radios, the ones, yeah, the ones that 471 00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:27,119 come from like Sweden, they have like the funky bands. I must apologize 472 00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,159 to any of the international listeners out there. Oh yes, I know. 473 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:36,639 Yes, they're very talented, but it's kind of funky. We love you, 474 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,519 we love your time, right. We've got enough freaks over here in 475 00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:45,920 the UK anyways. So and in the States too. Yeah. Well, 476 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,239 I mean there's been some good music covers coming out. I mean we had 477 00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,880 came out and the Bucks Fees and a few others. But so there's been 478 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:59,280 a few freaky ones a lot the way as well, I think it's just 479 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:06,039 a good time to like gather all kinds of countries together. Yeah, anything 480 00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:09,039 peaceful is good. But you know what I'm saying, We always we always 481 00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:13,480 get voted to the bottom, don't we In the UK. I don't think 482 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,760 anyone likes it pretty much. I wish the States were involved, but then 483 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,519 it wouldn't be called Eurovision. Well okay, you say that, but they've 484 00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:30,320 got Australia's in it now, So how can Australia be in the Eurovision song 485 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,599 called I See I know, we're going off. We're going off for a 486 00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:39,320 tangent. It's not quite It doesn't make sense, is it. It's crazy. 487 00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:43,800 So there's absolutely no reason why the USA could come into it. I 488 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,159 don't think you're right. You're right, we needed, we need to join 489 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:52,400 in. But so Eurovision, I don't know. Is it in March or 490 00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:57,320 oh it's around about Easter time that type of Yeah, it is around about 491 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,800 March, I think. So we got invited to a party and it was 492 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:09,400 a Eurovision party. We were there and yeah they well I we didn't get 493 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,079 the memmos. So everybody else is dressed up and we're just dressed you know. 494 00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:17,239 They were dressed up in costumes and we're just dressed. I'm like, 495 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,559 oh, I didn't know where'posed to get dressed. It was it was a 496 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:25,440 good time. The thing is I want to say is I was drinking, 497 00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:32,159 but my husband wasn't. So, you know, in case of any of 498 00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:37,239 the listeners, so this is this is an admission, is it that you 499 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,119 were drinking? Yeah, so I was drinking. I had a couple of 500 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:46,039 drinks, but my husband wasn't drinking. And so we come outside. You 501 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:49,360 know, we wanted to do this, you know, I, like I 502 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,559 said, I love looking out and that, you know, if it's a 503 00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:55,119 clear night. I and I had and I have like my gay warm suitor. 504 00:42:55,199 --> 00:43:00,800 I'm by the fire. I love looking out in the sky. It's 505 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,559 just always draws my attention. So we went out. They had a fire 506 00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,360 and it was just me and my husband and I put my head up and 507 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:13,119 I'm looking out the stars and I see something and I'm like, and you 508 00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:16,039 know, I look at the sky quite a bit, so I can tell, 509 00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:19,559 you know, if it's a satellite, the way the movement is, 510 00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:25,119 I can tell if it's a star or you know, a planet or such. 511 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,239 I have an app on my phone that tells me to and I also 512 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,199 can tell if it's a plane or a helicopter or even a weather balloon. 513 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:43,760 But this was interesting because the way that it maneuvered in the sky was really 514 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,400 weird. Like a satellite wouldn't move that way. An airplane no way, 515 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,519 because it would explode. If it was a drone, it would have been 516 00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:59,800 too high, you know. I don't know how barred the drones can fly 517 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:04,760 it was, so it's too high. And so but the way it did 518 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,480 is I go. I was telling my husband. I was like, look, 519 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,400 I was like, there's something in there. And whatever it was, 520 00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:20,480 it moved from like left to right and then up and then it was going 521 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,800 up and then disappeared. Mm. And and I said, tell me you 522 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,480 saw that, please, because I'm drinking and you're not. Did you see 523 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,559 that? And he did, so he could he could vouch for that. 524 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,920 Yeah, So what goes from left to right in a straight line and then 525 00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:46,519 right going up and then just vanishes out of nowhere? Yeah, well you 526 00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:53,760 said that certainly wasn't a satellite doing that. And that's very sim I've seen 527 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:59,280 as well, and other people for saying things like that. Yeah, and 528 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,760 that one right there was like the most because I have these binoculars and sometimes 529 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,599 I would just when everybody's asleep, and you know, I just like to 530 00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:10,639 connect with the stars before I go to bed. If it's a clear knight, 531 00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,679 I'll look up in the sky. I can see the satellites and such 532 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,119 with these binoculars. But and there's other things that I have seen, but 533 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,159 I couldn't really I don't have the right equipment to kind of determine what it 534 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,920 was. I don't really like to talk about it, sure, because I 535 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,079 want to have good evidence, but for this one, the way it moved 536 00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:37,360 from left to right then going up and disappearing. But does that well exactly? 537 00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:39,880 I mean when I was young, I mean I've told this story a 538 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,880 few songs. I was probably about eight or nine, living in London, 539 00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,639 this is where I was born, and I was actually watching a star that 540 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,880 was moving and stopping and moving and stopping, you know, and obviously we 541 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,000 know stars don't do that. There was only when at a time I just 542 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,880 thought it was start moving and stopping. But obviously when I got to be 543 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,559 a teenager and I thought back on that and I thought, what what was 544 00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:07,280 that? You know? It was? We know stars, don't you. 545 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,960 No, it wasn't following me as such, but I was sitting on my 546 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,519 steps where I lived in London. I'll just look at it was like, 547 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,119 you know, like the early evening when the stars are just coming out and 548 00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,440 you can just sort of see them, and it's like it must have been 549 00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:27,840 spring or summer or sometime. But yeah, I'll just I just noticed this 550 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,760 stars stop moving upwards. I know it was coming downwards. Actually it was 551 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,000 coming downwards. It was coming downwards and then stopping. And then because it 552 00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:38,519 was to my left if you sort of like thinking sitting on the steps, 553 00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:43,480 it was actually to my left and it was coming down stopping, and then 554 00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:46,440 it was stayed there for a couple of minutes or even even a minute or 555 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,559 so, and then start moving downwards again. Now I'm talking about them, 556 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,880 I'm talking about the late nineteen fifties because I'm a bit older than you. 557 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,679 So, yeah, we didn't have such things as satellites and things flying about 558 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,440 then. But even then, satellite stones don't do that, so or there 559 00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:08,199 wasn't drowns right there. There were no such things as drones back then. 560 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,400 But what can stop and then move and stop that and I've seen that type 561 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:22,079 of thing since Renders From Forest as well, where the famous UFO incident happened. 562 00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:24,880 Several of us have seen these things move and stop and move and stop 563 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:31,559 as well together sort of thing. And that's here in the UK. That's 564 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:37,320 here in the UK. Renders From Yeah, in Suffolk. Oh, I 565 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:43,000 would like to go there and camp out and explore the skies. Well, 566 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,559 it's an amazing forest. I mean, obviously if you have a fancy coming 567 00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:51,880 down this way, I could take you up there and you met a few 568 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:58,679 people that were actually involved in the research on the Rendition Forest incident. I 569 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,239 don't know if you know too much of about that in nineteen eighty. Look, 570 00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:07,840 it's probably the probably one that I've seen came across. Everyone's heard of 571 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:14,559 Roswell, haven't they in the state. Well, they call that that Renders 572 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:20,639 Forest incident. The UK's Roswell. It's supposed to be one of the UFO 573 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,880 excuse me, one of the uf biggest UFO events in the world actually, 574 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,760 because it was actually involving in the military. Okay, is it where that 575 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:37,280 guy touched the UFO? Yeah, Jim Peniston, Yeah, he's a good 576 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,760 friend in the forest. Yeah, And there was a memo written by by 577 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,719 Colonel Charles Holt called the Whole Memo, which is out there. And Colonel 578 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,840 Holt's a good friend of mine as well. He lives in the States. 579 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,599 Obviously, because they were American troops, they weren't, you know, they 580 00:48:52,599 --> 00:49:00,039 were based here. Yes, that bent Waters and yes, I so we're 581 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:05,880 able to go. So we're even though it's and of course, is there 582 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,199 still a base around there, the base. Yeah, there's actually a Cold 583 00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:15,039 War museum there which is actually where the you know, the base is still 584 00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:19,239 there, but obviously it's a it's an industrial complex now, but they've still 585 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,559 got the flight lines and everything, and some of the forest is actually still 586 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,960 there, but a lot of it's not quite the same as it was back 587 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:32,559 then. They've actually got a UFO memorial there, which, yeah, they've 588 00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:37,880 got they made this. I think they spent about fifteen sixteen pounds on this, 589 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:43,320 a UFO statue type of thing and placed it not quite where the UFO 590 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,639 laded, but they've actually got and they've got a UFO trail as well, 591 00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:52,440 where you can follow where I supposedly follow where the UFO was supposed to have 592 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:58,280 landed. Over three nights two or three nights it was. But yes, 593 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:04,000 a famous area. I'm going to go to that this here. That's well 594 00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:07,199 because we're going to be doing a lot of staycation, so that would that's 595 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,119 that would be a well if you, if you if if you fancy coming 596 00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:15,159 down this way. There's a lady, a good friend of mine again. 597 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:21,920 She wrote a book called Skycrash, Brenda Butler. Now I know Brenda well, 598 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:24,719 and you could go visiting another talk with her as well. Okay, 599 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,159 and what is what is Skycrash? Is it? Yes? Skycrash is about 600 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:36,239 the render. Brenda was one of the first people that investigated the UFO incident 601 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,920 from nineteen eighty and this book is it's called Skycrash. It's it's a bit 602 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,000 hard to get hold of. Now there's been an updated version that it's called 603 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,440 Skycrash throughout time and that's actually written with Philip Philip Kenselo. Believe it or 604 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,559 not, because Philip has been there a few times. He's been involved in 605 00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:58,000 some of the research in the later years. But Philip Hady's own experiences there. 606 00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:05,639 You know a lot of people have experience. There's a lot of things 607 00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:09,079 going on. I spent quite a few times walking around there sort of hop 608 00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:13,519 because I used to live fairly near the area. I've moved to six now, 609 00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:17,559 but yes, we used to sort of have walks around the forest and 610 00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:21,199 sort of the hop hoster in the morning in the pitch black. Yeah, 611 00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:24,880 and we saw There's been quite a few scary incidents there, and people have 612 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:30,719 seen lots of things there. It's a very very strange area, and it 613 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,559 makes you wonder if that's why they built the base there in the first place, 614 00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,239 you know, because you do hear that somewhere where some of these bases 615 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,599 all over the world are based, they do have some strange areas that they 616 00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:46,840 seem to be close to. So I'm going to put that down. So 617 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,519 let's see here. So a lot of people that just visit there, they 618 00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:58,440 all some of them experienced something. Yeah, I forgot. There's there's a 619 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:05,159 few friends of mine that have had some bad and good experiences there. Yeah, 620 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:12,079 some very scary experiences actually as well or not what kind of scary experiences. 621 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,039 There's a friend that people know, Derek Savory. He is a friend 622 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:19,800 of Cener of ours. Now. He and his brother visited the woods one 623 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,920 night. The forest I should say, you know, I called it the 624 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,760 woods or the forest, whatever you want to call it, and they actually 625 00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:30,679 his story goes that, now his brother actually saw it too, and his 626 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,360 son actually saw it as well. So I can't actually say they're all lying 627 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,519 because I don't believe that for a moment. But apparently there's some sort of 628 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:44,239 a giant that was in the woods or the forest. Yeah, kind of. 629 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,480 I think it's some sort of elemental being, and it seemed to be 630 00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:52,480 that they were trying to stop them from walking down this pathway and anyway. 631 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,239 To cut a long story short, they actually ran away to get out of 632 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:02,480 the forest, and his brother actually felt some blood or these you know, 633 00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:07,880 you know what you get a cold feeling under his coat and it seemed like 634 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,840 he'd had some sort of scratches and the blood was actually coming through his shirt. 635 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,440 Oh my gosh. So yeah, so that was one of the scary 636 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,679 experiences. But they think that that giant, if you want to call it 637 00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:23,719 a giant, actually was trying to tell them that it wasn't safe there for 638 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:29,039 some reason or another. But it's a really strange story, but yeah, 639 00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:32,960 I know, there it will. Yeah, those type of stories scared the 640 00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:37,119 life. Yeah, I mean, the thing was his brother used to go 641 00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:42,159 there quite regularly. He came over from Somerset or Devon or somewhere like that 642 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,280 quite regularly to go there. And apparently he didn't go back there for two 643 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,079 years. Was it scared him so much? Right? And and some of 644 00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:54,519 those things follow you, yeah, like an attachment? Yeah, we did, 645 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,679 so I'll just tell you this quickly. We did have a friend who 646 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,920 was actually died on the way home because he used to go to rend the 647 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:07,199 Ship quite often, and we think that he got an attachment because he was 648 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,840 going down there and he actually died on the way home one night, but 649 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,760 going yeah, he drove his car into a tree. What and and it 650 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,039 was around the time that he visited that area. Well, it was going 651 00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:23,639 there quite often. He used to spend a lot of time in Menusam And 652 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,920 but he was actually saying that he thought he had an attachment at the time. 653 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,159 And he did have his own problems as well. We don't really want 654 00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:38,519 to go too much into that, but we was always said don't drive so 655 00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:43,000 fast and things like that. So was it a normal accident, I don't 656 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,480 know. But Brenda, who I was mentioned earlier, now she is a 657 00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:51,800 psychic as well, she's a medium. I don't know if a medium is 658 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,880 the right world for Brenda. She is psychic. But she says that Chris, 659 00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,960 who was the guy who died, was a friend of else. He's 660 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:07,800 actually visited visited her since, So, I mean, you can take that. 661 00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:10,559 I believe Brenda she will, you know, I don't believe that she's 662 00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:16,159 the type would come up with a story like that. But he's told her 663 00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:19,679 that he didn't mean to kill you to die, he was sort of, 664 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,840 but he thinks it was something to do with this attachment that he had. 665 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:27,800 But yeah, if you have, if you ever came down this way, 666 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,599 you could sort of certainly, you know, introduce you to Brenda. I'm 667 00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:35,960 sure you'd find it interesting talking to her. Yeah, I would love that, 668 00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:38,880 And I'll bring my sage so that before I leave. I was, 669 00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:44,400 yeah, your sage is very important, as I've discovered over the last couple 670 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:50,440 of years. Yes, I would say to myself, I I don't like 671 00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:57,800 to watch because there's another part that I will talk to you about. But 672 00:55:58,039 --> 00:56:01,360 I really don't like talking about it because I've had some these are some horrible 673 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:07,239 experiences and and I don't know if it's connected, but I will tell you. 674 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:16,599 So like I can't watch Exorcist movies or just short stories or anything like 675 00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:22,079 our shows, you know, because I mean I'm forty years old, and 676 00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:29,440 I because of those experiences, I still sleep at the nightlight on. But 677 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,559 so one I was staying with my brother and his wife at one time, 678 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:44,800 and I had this really horrible experience where I was dreaming I was getting attacked 679 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:50,280 chased by a raccoon. But in that same dream, it kind of turned 680 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:58,719 into where like merge into a different dream where I was laying and like I 681 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:06,239 could feel like I was laying in this same position on the bed and and 682 00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:08,239 I was dreaming that I was in the room, laying in the bed at 683 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:13,920 the same you know position and such, and that I was going to attack 684 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:20,760 by a demon. And the demon was black with red eyes, and I 685 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:29,000 had kind of like a like a like a a coat on but not like 686 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,239 oh what is you know, like Dracula and how he has that coat like 687 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:40,719 that, and he was like scratching me. And then like in my dream, 688 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,599 I turned into this lion. I'm this is ridiculous, and I started 689 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:52,920 attacking it, like I started fighting back, and like I bit him and 690 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:59,519 then he he went away whatever he she went down underneath the bed. So 691 00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:02,280 then when I I woke up and I was like, what what's going on? 692 00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:08,760 And you know that time I was in the States. I'm just like 693 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:14,519 breathing. And then I heard a knock under the bed like like that, 694 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,679 I could hear it, and I was like, was it the bed? 695 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,039 Just did it? Just like why would the bed do that after this dream? 696 00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:25,159 You know, like it would have been like is this the creek? 697 00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:30,119 So I jumped down and I was like, you know what, I'm just 698 00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:34,280 going to face my fear. And I looked under the bed and nothing was 699 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,400 under there. And then I heard something at the window and I was like, 700 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,039 so they went to the window, and I just said, you know 701 00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:45,320 what, leave me alone, Just stay away from me, leave me alone. 702 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:50,400 I'm not scared of you. And yeah, after that, I again 703 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,480 I couldn't sleep and I never experienced anything like that again. But because of 704 00:58:55,519 --> 00:59:02,360 that, I just I stopped watching those Extra system horror movies. Yeah, 705 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,400 any any horror movie. I mean I can I can still watch them, 706 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,239 but if it talks about like extorsists or demons, I'm like, I'm not 707 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,119 going to watch. Do you do you watch any of the ghost shows. 708 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,880 You get a lot of the US ghost shows, but ghost Hunters and things 709 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,719 like that. Yeah, I do watch some of them, but again, 710 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:27,039 some of them just it's just they scare me. I do scare you. 711 00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:34,280 Yeah, I was just I wondered if how you felt about them. We 712 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,000 we've got We've got some great ones over here called help my House is halted. 713 00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:40,599 I don't know if you've watched those. Yeah, I think the ones 714 00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:46,000 out here are much probably scarer because there's so much history and yeah, so 715 00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:52,719 many things happen in one location. You can only imagine like what happens, 716 00:59:52,880 --> 01:00:00,000 and I would somebody would have to pay me thousands to go and walk through 717 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:05,760 something like that. Yeah, I was gonna ask you if you if you've 718 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,440 ever been on any of those guys, tellt yourself. But it doesn't sound 719 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:12,960 like you. I have not. I mean, you know, I I'm 720 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:16,239 just like when I hear stories like, oh, they will follow you home, 721 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:22,400 They'll you know, I'm just like, uh, you know, what's 722 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,719 an interesting thing. I'm just gonna jump It's it's kind of the same paranormal. 723 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,920 So my on my mom's side, the girls, a lot of the 724 01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:38,000 sisters and their first generation cousins. They've experienced this ghost, this lady, 725 01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:44,480 and they call her, they call her the lady. Oh my gosh, 726 01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:49,159 I shouldn't even said that because I've been spared. Well okay, I'm not 727 01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:53,519 going to say that, but you heard that, yeah, soryal study. 728 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:59,639 Yeah, so this is really true. And they don't like to talk, 729 01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:01,639 like if I would mention it to them, they I think they would be 730 01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:06,800 upset that I would bring it up. But the last one I heard was 731 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:12,880 from my cousin Jovanna. And there's this lady. She's skinny and she has 732 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,519 like she just has long nails. Gosh, I can't remember the color her 733 01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:22,320 hair. But they would she would haunt them, she would, they would 734 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:28,000 hear her and then like she would in they're always she's always appeared in the 735 01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:30,960 in the restroom, in the toilet room, like where the shower is at. 736 01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:37,480 And yeah, she would haunt them. So she haunted my cousin Jovanna. 737 01:01:37,039 --> 01:01:40,920 She said, she's haunted my mom. She's haunted my Thea Carol, 738 01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:46,079 my Dea Rosie. Sorry, I'm Cynthia because I come from a Mexican background. 739 01:01:46,719 --> 01:01:52,280 Uh so, yeah, so that's an interesting thing that so it might 740 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:57,639 see scary to go to the ballroom. Well when I was younger. Now 741 01:01:57,719 --> 01:02:01,719 I can go to the bathroom. But it's always just something that they told 742 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:08,800 me. Don't talk about her, don't bring her up, don't don't you 743 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:14,039 know what's the word for it, you know, when you're you talk about 744 01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:20,960 something, you're you're don't connect yourself to it, or just don't there. 745 01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:24,320 I'll mention there is a tone book. I think, Yeah, it's just 746 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:29,800 something that you don't want to bring that energy, that the energy of whatever 747 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:36,679 it is out. So but it's interesting because whatever it was, it wasn't 748 01:02:36,719 --> 01:02:40,239 just happening at somebody one person's house. It was bothering all of them at 749 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,880 this house. And it was the same figure, did they ever think about 750 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,159 getting someone to have a look and see, you know a lot, an 751 01:02:51,239 --> 01:02:55,199 investigation of some sort. They were so traumatized, and these are grown women, 752 01:02:55,599 --> 01:03:00,000 you know, grown women that that just told us not to talk about 753 01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:07,719 it anymore. It's just bad experience. But having those stories where people are 754 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,320 talking about their experiences with you know, alien beans or you know, abductions 755 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:17,079 and such, were some of them think that maybe like they were demons, 756 01:03:17,079 --> 01:03:24,480 but maybe they were just aliens right there, right, it's like the lady 757 01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:30,000 what was she really a ghost? Or was she you know, some other 758 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,000 being? Who knows? Yeah, you've actually raised a point which I've started 759 01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:37,320 to realize some point. I think there's a lot of connections with all paranormal 760 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:45,440 things that happen, not ghosts and aliens and UFOs and everything else instead dimensional 761 01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:49,679 experiences. I think they've all got a connection, I really do. Yeah. 762 01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:55,559 Or was it somebody that knew them that that was trying to connected them 763 01:03:55,599 --> 01:04:00,360 but they didn't understand it, so they were just scared. I don't know 764 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:08,320 who knows, because it's said that this figure was showing up at different people's 765 01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:13,960 homes. You know, it wasn't just you know, it was like you 766 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,320 say, it was a lot of attachment type of thing as well, wasn't 767 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,880 it if it was following them? Had I ever done things like wagiable stuff 768 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:27,079 like that? Oh? Possibly? I can only imagine what my family used 769 01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:30,119 to do when they're I mean most you know, I was just getting to 770 01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:35,280 do that at some point. Don't they get a Wigi board down? And 771 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:41,360 yeah, I think so. I remember hearing about the Ouiji board and such, 772 01:04:41,519 --> 01:04:49,519 But so I they possibly Another thing is my father had experienced grace, 773 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,960 some grace, so I think it's I think it's you know, I think 774 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,239 that's where my experiences come from, because they do say that, you know, 775 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,400 if one of you is in the family is experiencing it, there possibly 776 01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:09,000 is another. So my father, actually, he doesn't really like talking about 777 01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,920 it. And I actually told him that I was coming on the show, 778 01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:15,480 but he only gave me just when we were younger. He would talk about 779 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:21,960 it all the time, but everybody was making fun of him, saying, 780 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,000 oh, you're just crazy, or how much did you drink? And this 781 01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:29,599 and that, so they kind of like put him down throughout the years, 782 01:05:29,639 --> 01:05:33,039 so he doesn't really like to talk about it anymore. I remember he would 783 01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:36,519 say that he would wake up at Mark's and I remember him showing me, 784 01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:41,679 and you know, I was even laughing at him because you know, it's 785 01:05:41,719 --> 01:05:43,800 like, oh, this is what are you talking about? This is not 786 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,320 what are you doing. You're embarrassing me. I didn't really take him serious, 787 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,400 and I feel bad because now that I've experienced it, I'm like, 788 01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:56,679 oh, my gosh. You know, maybe that was part of the reason 789 01:05:56,719 --> 01:06:00,239 why you did have your experiences. Yeah, that was some sort of does 790 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,960 to tell you that he was telling you about his experience, and I apologized 791 01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:08,079 to him. I was like, you know what, Dad, I'm sorry 792 01:06:08,199 --> 01:06:14,079 that I made front of you and ridiculee what is the word ridicule? Ridicule? 793 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,440 Yeah, yeah, ridical ridicule. You know, I didn't believe you 794 01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:21,159 back then. I was young, and you know, I just it was 795 01:06:21,239 --> 01:06:27,079 just something that I was just not you know, didn't I didn't really know 796 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,039 information and such. But yeah, I apologized to him and told him about 797 01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:35,559 mine, and he's just sorry how I was that he was having those experiences. 798 01:06:36,119 --> 01:06:41,360 He is sixty now and I'm forty, and I think I was around. 799 01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:48,119 I was in my teenager years, so if he was around, but 800 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:54,079 its a something like, yeah, yes, I don't know if he's experienced 801 01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:57,119 anything recently, but yeah, he said it would happen quite a bit. 802 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,920 And then it's from what I understand, I don't know it still happens. 803 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,519 I mean, he's not the only one, is he. I mean it 804 01:07:02,599 --> 01:07:08,519 sounds very similar to the witness Dreever stories of the Grays appearing in his room. 805 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,559 And what's interesting is he was able to see them like he was able 806 01:07:12,599 --> 01:07:17,480 to identify that they were grays, whereas I couldn't see their face or anything. 807 01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:20,599 I just know I was going to actually ask you that. I was 808 01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:24,599 going to say, have you got any descriptions of the alias you saw? 809 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,880 But you've just answered that question now, so I couldn't see. I just 810 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:34,599 saw there, just like their silhouettes, you know, so bright behind them. 811 01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:40,239 And in a way, that makes your story more believable. I'm not 812 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,840 saying more believable than your fathers don't. I'm not saying that for a moment, 813 01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:46,519 but it makes your story more believable. The fact that you can't describe 814 01:07:46,519 --> 01:07:49,880 what they were, you know, because if you were, if you were 815 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,920 making something up, you come up with all sorts of descriptions. It was 816 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,480 a reption with big ears or something like that. But the fact that you 817 01:07:57,519 --> 01:08:01,679 didn't actually see what it was. No, we're just there and and like 818 01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:08,480 I said, I just I felt like there were I was related to them, 819 01:08:08,719 --> 01:08:12,960 like I felt like, you know, like we were we were doing 820 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,680 something really fun, and I you know, I had a really good time 821 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,960 with them, and then I have to stay by and then they're like, 822 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,000 well we're you know, and I didn't want I didn't want them to leave. 823 01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:25,720 I didn't want them. I was like, is this It was kind 824 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,560 of like yours. I was like, is this the last time I'm going 825 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,159 to see you? You know? And but it was really emotional, Like 826 01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:35,439 I said, I could still feel it right now, like yeah, it's 827 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,319 just weird, like I miss them, but I don't know who I'm missing. 828 01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:45,399 Esal do you what you should? You may well do it already, 829 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:50,039 but you should keep a notepad by your bedside. And do you do that 830 01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:57,319 already? Yes? I do. I Actually there was another UFO too that 831 01:08:57,399 --> 01:09:03,479 I saw and I wrote the date on here. It was Sunday, June 832 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:11,479 fourth, at twelve around twelve pm, between twelve and two eighteen, sorry, 833 01:09:12,199 --> 01:09:15,239 so somewhere in between that time. I know it's like a two hour 834 01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:18,840 difference, but somewhere around that time, there was an object in the sky 835 01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:25,000 because I was washing dishes and I have a big window right there above where 836 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:31,439 I washed my dishes, and I was looking in the sky and there's a 837 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:41,560 pole and there was a black chrome object and it whatever it was designed the 838 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,439 sun. It was illuminated by the sun and so it made it look white 839 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,279 on one side. But the reason is because it was rotating. It was 840 01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:56,880 like spinning and all crazy. But it was small, so I thought it 841 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:01,479 was a drone or something. And so it was like rotating. So I 842 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:06,840 used my binoculars to see and there was like lights on it and they were 843 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:14,399 like reflecting again from the sun. And it was kind of rectangle with one 844 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,960 light on each end, and it was like four d ish like it had 845 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:25,479 all four ends and such. But it was like rotating, So a drone 846 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:30,560 can't do that. It was like spinning. So I looked and so and 847 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,239 it wasn't. It wasn't. You're right in the daytime. So and then 848 01:10:32,279 --> 01:10:38,000 I try to run upstairs to get a different angle, and it was gone. 849 01:10:38,039 --> 01:10:40,560 So then I ran out through my back and to see if it was 850 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,880 like when some if it was a drone or something, I can kind of 851 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,319 catch it to where it went. And no, it was nowhere in sight. 852 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:51,159 I couldn't hear anything. So that was another one that I wrote down. 853 01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:56,880 But again, you know, I wish I had better equipment. Yeah, 854 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,359 and then there was a dream I had on the twenty third of January, 855 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:15,880 and it was at this spacecraft. The spacecraft was long and in the 856 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,720 center was like this big pole but I guess it was like there was windows 857 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:26,720 all around it, this big long pole and then there's a bottom base. 858 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:32,720 It was kind of like like a like it looked squarish or something like. 859 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:38,279 It was kind of weird. I drew it just like I can kind of 860 01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:43,920 explain. And then there was like a gap and then above the top of 861 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:49,800 the pole was like this cylinder kind of thing where energy that's how it was 862 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:55,880 moving the spacecraft. But yes, I don't know why I dreamt that. 863 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,239 And you know what's weird is there's movies and shows kind of had the same 864 01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:05,680 thing. Like I'm like, oh, I dreamt something like that. Yeah, 865 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,000 yeah, I think they do get a lot of the ideas from from 866 01:12:10,039 --> 01:12:17,039 real things. Actually, most right people telling Yeah, when you were growing 867 01:12:17,159 --> 01:12:20,199 up, did you ever watch some science fiction shows and things like that? 868 01:12:20,199 --> 01:12:24,439 Did you have an interest? That's what I'm trying to say, because a 869 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,199 lot of people don't actually have an interesting dots that type of thing until they 870 01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:31,479 actually have their own experiences. No, I did not, Like I never 871 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:39,479 was into Star Trek until I was much older. I mean I used to 872 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,640 watch certain things, but I wasn't like a big old Star Wars nerd You 873 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,760 know, I watched it once and that was it, you know, but 874 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:54,199 I wasn't. I wasn't into it until I got much older. M hm. 875 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,520 So yeah, but I can see I think, you know, at 876 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,840 some point, I think you'll be writing a book about all this. That 877 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,279 would be interesting. I would need some help. I mean, I hope 878 01:13:06,279 --> 01:13:09,880 that I do. I mean a lot of people are like, I don't 879 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,520 want to have any more experiences, but I kind of do. You know, 880 01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:21,000 I kind of feel special because I've had those experiences. And yeah, 881 01:13:21,239 --> 01:13:25,640 the thing is more, Yeah, you're not just a believer, you're a 882 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,920 know. Once you once you, once you've seen these things or had these 883 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,680 experiences, you're not you don't have become just a believer, You become a 884 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:41,479 Knowah. Yeah that's and I just want to explore it more. And you 885 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,239 know, and whoever it was that visited me that apparently, I know, 886 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,520 I would love to see them again. Well, I mean, if they're 887 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:57,119 listening to this show, please play with you, right, who are you? 888 01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,640 Well? You never know, do you? I mean, he's going 889 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,319 to go all over the place, so they may well be listening and they'll 890 01:14:02,359 --> 01:14:09,199 know that you'll come on this show tonight. Yeah, we'll see whatever it 891 01:14:09,399 --> 01:14:14,079 is, right, It's it's just it's a small fraction of what's really going 892 01:14:14,119 --> 01:14:19,479 on, right because you have all these absolutely yeah, a little story and 893 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:28,479 then there's you know, connections that they're saying with our government with well as 894 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,760 you know, you've got your experiences and you will see connections with other people's 895 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:36,439 stories that will become very similar to your your own. Yeah, and you 896 01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:42,880 know the same as like the Philip and Ronnie story. But anyway, it's 897 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,199 been fantastic avenue on the show. I hope to get to see you again 898 01:14:45,239 --> 01:14:48,119 at some point. And I do mean that if have your fancy coming down 899 01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:53,960 south a little bit and you know, maybe the sum or whatever, that's 900 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:59,880 the must. You know, have a little looking read about Rendallsham and you 901 01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:03,720 find that that's a quite a big event that happened. And it's actually along 902 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:10,199 part on part with Roswell with the information. How do you spell it again, 903 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:15,159 render Sham? It's r E N okay, d l A okay, 904 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:24,239 s h okay. I am all right. I actually faced. Oh you're 905 01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:27,479 not on Facebook or anything, are you? Yeah? I'm on Facebook, 906 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,159 I'm on Instagram, and I'm on Twitter. Yes, all right, well, 907 01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:32,560 I'm not sure if we connected. Actually I didn't know we were. 908 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:40,479 You were on Facebook? I actually, yeah, I actually I posted our 909 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,399 poster into some of the groups and then I found your group, so I 910 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,760 tagged your group into the other groups that I posted it. Are we connected 911 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,640 on Are we connected on Facebook already? I don't know, but I'll look 912 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,079 for you and add you. Yeah, well, I didn't think you were 913 01:15:57,119 --> 01:15:59,720 on Facebook, so well, has to look for you now. But I've 914 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,880 actually got I've actually got a group on Facebook, a run called the rf 915 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:10,479 I what's it called? R F I truth? I forgot what it's called. 916 01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:15,920 It's been going for quite a few years. There, what's it called. 917 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,560 I'll send you a link to it anyway, Yes, send me the 918 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:24,279 link and I'll add myself to it, or I'll request to join the group. 919 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,119 Well, thank you so much. I really had the pleasure to being 920 01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:31,479 on here and sharing my story and hopefully you never know, who knows, 921 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,479 there might be another one. But yeah, no, I mean, thank 922 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:40,119 you so much of it for actually choosing this show to come on and tell 923 01:16:40,119 --> 01:16:43,560 your story for the first time. It's been a great pleasure talking to you. 924 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,880 It was a great pleasure talking to you in the Awakening, and but 925 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,760 I do hope to get to see you again, and maybe one day you'll 926 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,319 come back on the show again. If you have some more experiences, that 927 01:16:51,359 --> 01:16:58,479 would be nice just to do. I will do that. Okay, yourself 928 01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:01,760 the same, take myself to hear. Take care of yourself. Bye bye, 929 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,680 Yvett, thank you, bye bye bye bye bye bye. Well, 930 01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:09,560 thank you, Yvette. That was brilliant, very interesting. I've got to 931 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,800 say, since we did the show. Just a few days after we did, 932 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,800 we finished doing the recording, Yvette got in touch with me and she 933 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,399 said, I saw something weird the other night. Then she goes on to 934 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:25,520 explain it was an object of bright orange traveling upwards into the atmosphere towards the 935 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:30,880 M thirty one galaxy between eighteen thirty one and eighteen forty two. It is 936 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,279 obviously the time when the objects appeared close to Androva, the galaxy. It 937 01:17:34,319 --> 01:17:38,920 disappeared. I didn't have time to take a picture, and I didn't hear 938 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,159 any sounds. Plus there were no clouds. She goes on. When I 939 01:17:43,239 --> 01:17:45,880 first saw the objects, it was going up behind this tree in my neighbor's 940 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:50,039 yard. I initially thought it was a star. Or celestial object. So 941 01:17:50,119 --> 01:17:56,199 I pulled my skyportal app to identify the star. The reason is I felt, 942 01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,119 because behind the tree I couldn't get a good view, that it was 943 01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:03,560 an optical illusion by the leaves. But then it came up traveling above the 944 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:08,760 tree. The crazy thing is I was on the phone using one hand and 945 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,239 the other hand taking my dog for a peet, as if it knew I 946 01:18:12,399 --> 01:18:15,800 was too occupied to take a pick. But that's just coming from my own 947 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,119 thoughts. So things are still going on with you, and hopefully one day 948 01:18:20,119 --> 01:18:25,039 we'll get it back on the show and perhaps we'll have some more updated tales. 949 01:18:25,079 --> 01:18:29,439 But I think she should really write that book anyway, right, My 950 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:34,319 next guest on the next show will be a young lady again named Holly wood 951 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:39,520 Well. Holly was due to come on the show some a little while back, 952 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:44,600 but unfortunately she wasn't well. Now I understand it, Holly is going 953 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,319 to be doing the introductions of the Mini Awakening conference. I believe that's up 954 01:18:48,319 --> 01:18:53,199 in Bolton, is it. I'm quite sure over the weekend before the show 955 01:18:53,239 --> 01:18:56,279 goes out. This show will come out on the day after she's finished that 956 01:18:56,319 --> 01:19:00,359 conference. So unfortunately, that's just the way it's worked out, I say, 957 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,560 hollywoods due to be on the show a few weeks back, but we 958 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,960 have to do a change anyway. That's Hollywood and that's on, Yeah, 959 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:12,119 Hollywood, and that's on February nineteenth, Monday, of course, so I 960 01:19:12,119 --> 01:19:15,760 hope you'll join me for that one. As always, if you'd like to 961 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,600 get in touch with me, my email address is David Young too, QN 962 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:25,119 at yahoo dot co dot uk. That's David Young two, QN at yahoo 963 01:19:25,279 --> 01:19:30,880 dot co dot uk. So once again I wish Mark Johnson will as our 964 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,920 manager. As I mentioned at the beginning of the show, I'm sure you'll 965 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,640 be happy about again soon. I hope you'll join me for the February the 966 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:42,119 nineteenth show with Hollywood. So until then, take care of yourselves everyone, 967 01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:47,119 Bye bye. Paranormal Dimensions is as great and powerful as our celestial stars up 968 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,560 and although it's expending thousands of pounds of energy every minute of the day, 969 01:19:51,960 --> 01:20:01,000 have no fear. There's plenty left. That's who you are, the greatest, 970 01:20:01,920 --> 01:21:06,239 perfect okay h Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on the Paranormal UK Radio Network.