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Hello, Welcome to the show. As always, I'm David Young.
This is show number one hundred and ninety three. Now I'm saying that because
it's five years since I did the first show, but apparently what you go
Readio network five years, I can't believe it. Anyway, Before anything else,
I must wish our us manager of the network, Mark Johnson, will
he's been taken ill over the last week and he's in hospital at the moment.
He had a heart attack and he's having some bypasses as I understand it
in the States. So wish you will. Mark, you'll so be up
and about and back with us. You know, we all wish you the
best. Okay for this show. My guest is a young lady that I
met a little while back in Manchester once again at the Awakening conference. The
names that Yvette McLain. When I heard a short rendition of her story,
I thought I've got to get her on the show because it was fascinating.
Actually, I'm pretty sure you're going to enjoy listening to her. This is
actually her first time on a radio show, so I'm very honest to have
her on. So, without any further ado, i'd like to introduce to
you Yvette McLain. Hello Vett, Welcome to the show. Hello David,
how are you doing? I am doing fine, apart from being freezing cold
here in the UK, and you're in the UK as well, as I
understand, Yes, Simon Stafford, sure yes Stafford. And it is cold
out here too. You're not that the flood flooded country I use there's a
lot of floods over here as well. At the moment, there was a
lot of floods out here as well. It was crazy. Yeah, there
was certain parking lots that you couldn't go into or a car actually got stuck.
We have this guy out here who he shoots the area like certain areas
with his drone and he were part of his group. So he was showing
us this car was trying to get through and then they got stuck. Oh
well, I've seen a few bits on YouTube and things like that were people
driving into great big puddles and disappear under water. It's crazy, you know,
it's like your cars and their car is small. I'm like, you're
you're not in a truck or a submarine or right. But anyway, I
mean, apparently it's just been announced that there was the hottest year on record.
I'm still I'm still to be convinced of that. Well it was we're
hot in the UK, well all over the world apparently. Oh yes,
yes, that was like yes, I actually sortally disagreement all that. Anyway,
all the thing about man made global war, we won't go into that,
but my opinion, that is a loadable topic. So you think it's
just made up, Yeah, Well, they're actually read they're actually reading things
differently to what they used to Apparently they used it, they're taking it from
a different place, and they talk about a lot of the weather as if
they could measure it like ten thousand years ago. And I mean, the
who has been measuring the weather ten thousand years ago. Now we know in
the UK, for instance, that the Romans used to go grapes over here
because it was so warm. So how did they manage that, you know,
when they when they were living here, they used to have grapevines and
things. So how they can say that the UK is warmed than it's ever
been. I don't know, But you go, that's that's my that's my
take on it. But we won't go, we won't go. Yeah.
Anyway, you and I briefly met at the Awakening conference in the Manchester when
you were talking to food were very good friends. Yes, I wanted to
hear their stories and kind of compare my experiences with theirs and just to kind
of, you know, compare the differences and such. They it seemed like
they had it really tough though they had a bad, negative experience versus to
mine. So it's just interesting to take. I think there were similarities from
what we see from yours. Yes, yeah, so that's it's like they
just you never know, like I heard stories that you know, the other
beings or whoever they are, they do something to you where you're you're not
really I don't know, it's like they message your mind. So those are
some stories that I heard as well. But I my experience was just like
I I've known them for a long time, and yeah, it was just
like they were a family. So you feel that connection type of thing.
Yeah, I feel like I felt that connection that I knew them, and
yeah, it was very interesting experience. Before we get into it, well,
what did you think of the Whitening conference? Did you enjoy it?
Oh? Yes, it was my first conference ever. I've been wanting to
go to one, even when I was in the States, I just never
had the time. So when I heard that they were coming out here and
then you know, just find out who was in the panels. So I
was very interested and I was by myself. Yeah, I just wanted to
go and hang out and just get to meet other people with their experiences and
especially hear the stories of all the researchers. I wish i'd had logo to
talk to you. You know, from what I saw, your story was
interesting. Absolutely. Who was your favorite? Who would you say was your
most interesting person that you listened to? Question? No, that's no,
there's gosh, there's so much. Well, I listened to Coast to Coast
a lot, do you, George Nay, Yeah, George nap. So
I listened to him a lot. When I listened to Coast to Coast,
I listened to a lot of YouTube, so it could be I watched a
lot of James Fox. I watched a lot of his films and I don't
know, I just have a mixture. I have to say from the event,
I would say my favorite is James Fox. That that was his work
was really good. That's that was so well the world deserved. That's a
wald got as well. What they called it the still Sitters of the Ward.
I think that's what I call it for. And it's so well deserved
because his documentaries over the years have been fantastic moment of contact, right yeah,
yeah, and he's really put his career on the line a couple of
times, you know with it. Yeah. I also follow him on Twitter,
so you know, just to hear things that he's that he said about
certain things. And he's actually coming out with a new film. I don't
remember what it's called, but I know that he's working on it just by
following. Yeah. Yeah, he's constantly working. But did you did you
get Charles to say hello to you. Yes I did. I got a
putograph and everything that. Yeah, it's a very nice guy. Actually was
he had plenty of time to talk to people, didn't he, And you
know, yeah, he made time. Well, he's like I always wanted
to meet Nick Pope because I have ancient aliens on all the time. So
oh I do too. I love I called him a good friend actually because
if ever A texted me, he answers almost immediately, you know, and
he's helped me in the past with a couple of things which I won't go
into on this show. But so now I like Nick a lot. He's
another one that gave a lot of his time to people there. You know,
I've got a lot of great, great respect for him. Two that
was really respectful. I guess I wasn't. I was going and not knowing
what my experience would be. And how you know, when you go places
and it's kind of difficult for you to meet like people who are out there,
and yeah, you know, so it was. It was a very
it was a surreal experience to be able to speak to all of them,
and you know, even if it was five to ten minutes of their time,
it was just it was worthwhile. I will be. I'll be at
tenn in the one next year. Well this is this year, yah.
Are you going to the mini there's a mini one right in February March.
Yeah, Unfortunately, I won't be. I've actually been offered ticket for it
through there's a there's a bit been going on behind the scenes, but I
can't really go into it on here. But no, I can't actually attend
the February one. I'm still thinking about the other one, unfortunately. And
I did promise my wife last year I was going to cut back a bit
and save a bit of money. You know, you spend hundreds on it,
don't you. So I've unfortunately, You've got to keep my promise.
I'm just going to Memphis in the US. We're big Elvis fans, you
see. So we're just going to Gracelan and Memphis and all that sort of
stuff and go to Tip you know, just doing in Elvis a few days
and then sort of going over to Chattanooga in Georgia. We're planning to but
I'm hoping to sort of have a couple of paranormal tours and things in between,
like you do ghost hunts and things you know, I don't know if
that type of thing, but yes, ghost shows. Yeah, oh wow,
that would be fun. But anyway, let's get into your story,
because it's your story really kind of intrigues me because as we were saying,
you're you're, You've got some connections that kind of go with food and Ronnie's
experiences, which I've had lready on the show several times in the past.
And I mean, there might be people out there listening to this and don't
know about their their experiences, but you have got some similar experiences, but
not entirely similar, because Ronnie and had some quite nasty experiences, but you've
kind of got something a little bit different to that. Yeah, So how
did that all start? Well, there's always been certain things that have experienced,
Like for there's one that kind of I don't remember it, but my
dad's ever since he told me it, just I've always wanted to know,
like, why would I come up with the story like that at such a
young age. So I think I was if I can remember, I may
have been like either six, seven or eight. It was around that time
frame. Yeah, this is in the US, in Arizona, because that's
originally from where I'm from and my dad told me that I, you know,
woke up and I told him this long story that I had a dream
about the world ending. But he said, what what you know just caught
his attention was I was very detailed about it, like I was pointing out
certain things, and I'm like, well, did you write it down?
But no, he didn't write it down, but he just said that,
you know, he found it very odd. And I, you know,
I don't remember the dream. I don't remember telling my dad anything, but
just the way that he, you know, described it to me that I
was in going into detail about how the world was going to end, you
know, but I mean what six seven or eight year old's gonna I mean,
I don't know. Yeah, So that always, you know, caught
my attention. And throughout the years, I've had some pair you know,
paranormal experience and such where I've seen you know, certain shadows or beans,
but it's always like, how can I describe it? It's always like just
when they were walking away and I saw the back of them, and so
so those are certain things that happened. But the most experience that happened to
me, when I would say it was either twenty eighteen. Yes, I
would say it's twenty eighteen. And it was right before I was going to
be moving out here. I was in living in these apartments in Avangel,
Arizona, and they are two story apartments and I have two kids, and
at that time, they stayed the night with my my ex mother in law,
so they're at the grandmother's house and I had the TV on and I
was sleeping on my I fell asleep on my couch and I while I was
sleeping, I was like, must have been like slowly coming out of,
you know, me being asleep. I heard like a robotic voice in my
ear saying numbers like it was they were They could have been like one one,
two to eight eight seven seven, something like that in that pattern,
and it woke me up. And then I was thinking, oh, you
know, it's probably my TV that I'm hearing, but it scared me enough
to wake me up, and I was just trying to recollect myself and like,
say, okay, am I going crazy? And I looked at the
TV and I'm just trying to concentrate to hear if it was a TV like
maybe it was a commercial or something that was on. And the next thing
you know, the numbers came in again, but I was awake and I
was so scared out of my mind. I'm like, am I going crazy?
I didn't want to tell anybody what I experienced because it just sounds crazy.
So and again the numbers. It was like a like a mill robotic
voice and it was like one one eight eight, like saying these numbers and
so yeah, So that happened, and I was just like panicking and wondering
what is going on in me? But it didn't last for long and that
was it. I mean, and I couldn't go to sleep for the life
of me. I try to go to sleep tide bite. I ended up
staying up for like twenty four hours, and eventually when the light came up,
I you know, I eventually went to sleep. So that was that
experience. So you never figured out what that was or the things. No,
I never I never asked. I was like, I literally was just
too scared to tell anybody because I didn't want them to think, Okay,
you're you're crazy or you know how people are they That sounds verych that sounds
very familiar. I don't know if you've heard of Jim Peniston, who was
involved with the Rendos from uphone incident in the nineteen eighty when I know Jim,
I know Jim quite well when he was getting the binary code downloads,
and he thought he was going crazy because he was writing all these binary numbers
in a notebook and I think he wrote about sixteen seventeen pages of it and
it was all ones and zero. Oh my gosh. And he never told
me. He said, very si, very much what you said about.
You know, he thought he was going crazy, and he didn't want to
talk to talk to anyone about it until sort of many many years later,
you know. And did it happen to him more than one night or more
than one occasion, as I understand it, because he was supposed to,
he says, and I believe him, that he touched the craft in Rendelsham
and they touched these emblems that were on the craft and apparently from that he
got a download the ones and zero's overnight type of thing. And it was
that kind of overnight. Whether he got any more than that, I don't
know, but he could always remember those same numbers ones and zero's, but
in the sequence that they came down. They've actually been analyzed since and he's
written a book with a chap named Gary Osborne. Why actually facts, I
mean, it might be an idea for you to talk to Gary, someone
like Gary Osborne to see if he can actually come up with anything, because
he actually works a lot with the pyramids in the in obviously Egypt and everywhere
else and he does a lot of measurements and things. But he's got the
follow up book coming out soon about the you know, the lot of Jim's
experiences with the downloads. Wow. Yeah, it's quite an involved story to
sort of cover within a couple of minutes. It's you know, it's but
I would like that if he can send his information over. Yeah, I'll
try and put you in touch with Gary because I think it would be interesting
to talk to him about your your download experiences, because that's what it sounds
like to me, right. I feel like they were trying to connect with
me, and they you know, they try to connect with me while I
was asleep, and they try to connect with me when I was awake,
and I think like, sometimes, you know, maybe they were I don't
know, because I wish that they would they would do it again and so
that I can, you know, understand but maybe they felt that I was
so scared and I don't know. I just think I think the question you
have to ask is why would they pick you? Is there a connection there
that you probably are not are nunaware of, or you've forgotten about all,
or you've been put here for a reason. You know that that's kind of
the reason why they picked you for that, I think is a question answered.
I want to know, like why was why were they were those what
are those numbers mean? And why did they do it? Only once?
You know, because there is times that you're going to laugh. Another time
that my kids went to their grandparents' house, I tried to relive the moment,
right, So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna leave the TV
on, I'm gonna lay on the couch and and see if it would happen
again. And no, And you know, and since then, I've always
was wondering, you know, if it would happen again. But something else
happened, which was much more. Ah, this one was very touching and
you know, very emotional. And what's interesting is that whatever it was that
happened to me in Arizona followed me here in the UK. Wow, So
I can just tell you this story. So one night, you know,
just like a normal night, going to bed, and my husband is sleeps
on the left of me, so IM sleep on the right side of the
bed, and then on the right side of me. My dog sleeps on
the on the floor. So one night I have this trying to describe it
where I got woken up. But I felt like I got woken up from
somebody placing me into my bed. But it was like it was like if
they were placing me into my bed, but I didn't feel them carrying me
or anything like that. And what woke me up was the gentle touch from
when I felt like they put me into my bed. Does that make sense?
I must have been I don't know if they if I was floating and
then well I just landed, I mean, was going back into my bed.
I didn't. I felt that little soft nudge and I was trying to
wake up, and it was like I was coming out of surgery. You
know, when they put you under what is it called at least is it
when they put you when they put you down and then you're coming up from
that. I've not had that very often, luckily, but it felt like
I was trying to come up. So when I was able to open one
eye a little bit, because it felt like I was on like it felt
like I was on medication m M. And you know that they put you
when you're in surgery and you're coming out of that, when you're trying to
get you up to when your minds will fogy and such. And I saw
an opening in my ceiling, the hold in the ceiling. I mean,
that sounds very familiar to Philip Ronny's story. Theirs was a bit more freaky,
I should say. Yeah, So it was an opening, and then
I got like this feeling that Okay, So I saw three beans and behind
them they were like silhouettes, and behind them was so bright it was like
you couldn't see behind them, so you can just see their shadows, like
I mean, like there's silhouettes. There's two small beans on this side of
them, and then one tall bean in the middle. O. That sounds
right for me, right? And I hear this a lot too. And
the feeling that I got was I was crying, like like I was trying
to cry, and I got sad because I got a sense that they were
saying goodbye, like I wasn't I'm not going to see them for a while,
Like it was weird, and and I was like telling them, I
don't know, it wasn't. It was like don't go. And it was
like I was saying, don't go. When am I going to see you
again? And then I just got that feeling like everything's gonna be okay.
But I was like really emotional and I can oh, my gosh, I
can't even remember my left eye. There was like a small little tear and
then I just like closed my eyes and went back to bed. And then
that was it. Do you feel you were actually physically lifted out of that
bed and put back or do you think it might have been an astral trouble
top thing, you know what, I don't know because I don't. I
don't know if I was, Yeah, that's that's since the only thing is
I felt like like if somebody put me, it's like being really sneaky putting
me back into bed. And I barely felt like just a little movement because
and then it woke me up, which is I don't It's just a weird
thing to to, you know, to kind of describe if if I was
left in the bed, and it was astro travel. I wonder, why
would I have felt that somebody was placing me back in the bed mm hmm.
But you know it could just it could be either or. And but
I just wondered, why would they show their self too? I mean,
you say your husband was president? Did he ever was he aware of that?
Was aware of any thing? Even my dog? Right? Like why
didn't my dog start barking? And why didn't my husband say anything? So
that was one thing where I was like, well, they were, they
were, They're there all the time, So why did you speak to him?
Oftenard was about it. Yeah, I told him the story and he
was like, I, okay, Well he's not very He probably just said
you had a bad treable or something, was it. He just didn't say
anything at all. Oh yeah, he's not supportive in that area. You
know other people that I've told their some of them said, well at the
event because I didn't really open up until from the event and such like I
told my kids and my husband, but they're just they're not very supportive.
Well, sometimes my daughter is because she's like, oh, I wonder that's
so weird, or maybe that you know who knows and as I understand that.
I mean, I'll say this now. Apparently this is the first time
you bet he told this story. So I must say thank you very much
for choosing this show to come on to tell you. Oh, thank you
for you know, for even inviting me to do this show. I've always
wanted to share and just to hear what other you know, other people's experiences.
But since then, and you know, it's it's weird because when I've
kept it to myself, I had more experiences, and then the moment I
started opening up, it seems like it started dying down. I don't know,
yes, I mean, the good thing is now, I think now
you started going through conferences and you'll start to meet people. Hopefully you'll you'll
get in such with a few mont more people through this show. I think
you'll probably hear and you may well be invited to other shows as well,
So you better get ready for the for the roid. No, I I
most definitely want to, you know, meet other people and get to learn
their experiences and just to find out like I just wanted, you know,
I'm so interested in talking to somebody who experienced it and continues to experience it,
whereas mine would only happen like once and you know, in so many
months, or like again that time where they were here and I saw them
and they were saying their goodbyes, it was like they told me that they
were going to like I felt like they're like they weren't going to be gone
forever, like I was going to see them again, just no soon.
And I must point out, you're you're actually still young, aren't you.
So there's plenty of time left within your life that they could well reappear at
some point, and you'll probably never know when it's going to be exactly.
I know, I've always what you know, Just you know, sometimes I
look in the sky and I'm like, just I will like because I'm also
into astronomy, so I like to look in the sky and if it's a
Clearinady'll take up my telescope. And we don't get too any of those,
I know, we don't. So it's like I can't wait to take a
trip back to Arizona and go into the desert and just camp out and look
at the stars. You never know something might happen to me when I go
back there, because I sometimes travel to Sedona, Arizona. Oh right,
yes, the beautiful town. Yeah, I'll be that's Arizona quite a few
songs. Actually, it's I really love it. It gets cold and it
gets very hot. That's right. That's right. Yeah, I've heard.
Sorry, as I was like to say that the very first trip I ever
went to Arizona was driving from California and I ended up in Yuma, And
that particular day I arrived in Yuma, Arizona was the hottly Stone record.
I think it was one hundred and sixteen or something like that, that's how
zone. Yeah, that was nineteen that was nineteen ninety, and I remember
the Hostale record. They were announcing that they arrived there. So I don't
think it's easy to do with me. It's just the way it was,
you know, anyway, So I'm sorry about it. But so yeah,
I do know Arizona pretty will yes you My Arizona is really hot. Yeah,
it can get very very cold too, as Yeah, that's right.
It's it's an interesting you're just speaking of that they got snow. They got
snow in scott Stille, Arizona yesterday and the day before yesterday, so what
I think was the seventh and eighth, they got a lot of snow out
there, so I know a lot of that is perfectly area, isn't it.
I mean we did we did as we did a horse riding in the
Scottsdale area actually into the where they've got some big cactus and things there.
It's a nice to go horse riding, Yes, to do the trails,
I've done that before. Or you have to try camping out there and just
looking at the stars, especially when you go up north to like flag Staff.
It's so yeah, and so all those places. So here we're we
are going, you must before going back again. Yeah, I will be
won't be going back this year, but definitely next year for Christmas time m
hm. And it will be quite cold then, oh yes, yes,
but you should get some nice clear skies. I'm going to take my taloscope
and bring all my gear and just look at the stars and the skies every
night i'm out there. So when you do that, if you go alone
or does your family go? No, Actually I'm going to be going with
my dad and I do have some friends, so I'll see if anybody wants
to hitch up. But if not, I do plant on going to Sedona
and staying there for a couple of nights with my husband. He just I'll
watch the sky by myself. But you'll have set up right actually when you
go, when you walk down the town, then they've got these drums you
can bang, haven't I and the symbols and bells and things you can ring.
Yeah, it's very spiritual. You'll see that. There's a lot of
spiritual things going on. And but yeah, there's actually been sightings since the
Jonah Arizona, a lot of sightings there they have. Yeah, I remember
when I was I think I was twelve or thirteen, but that's when the
phoenix lights remember that or that? Yeah, bigg yes, yes, I
remember that. And when I was that young, I was very that's the
word. I didn't believe it. I was like, oh, it's probably
you know, our military or something. Well, yeah, that's the story
they were putting out, that they were flaers and things. Yeah, so
obviously a cap of story you're doing exactly. So now that I'm an adult,
I'm like, no, that that had to be something whateverre too even
to be flairs anyway, they would have been going sort of. They were
too much in the line, wasn't they And it was like a big f
shaped object. I don't know if if they're stationary yea, yeah, there
were. They were too stationary for them to be flares because after a certain
amount of time you can tell that it's a flair because it starts to drop
down. Yeah, that's what I was saying. So then and one of
want to fight before another and things like that. Yes, so yeah,
that was that's interesting. So many people saw it from different angles as well,
and obviously there's been bits of film and photos and things. But obviously
camera camera's works are good thing as they all now. Yeah, you know
we can never get any good photos of UFOs, can we unportiately? Right?
Yes, it's just interesting to know, like what was it doing in
the sky as well? Yeah, yeah, it's really big. It was
huge. I think even the governor of Arizona didn't he come out. I
think I can't remember what his name was now, but he was trying to
make fun of it, wasn't he And that's right. But he did actually
a few years like, he did actually apologize and so there was actually something
to it that he does but he doesn't know what. So yes, that's
right, he did apologize and he did say that he saw something too right
and he had his own UFO sighting. So it's interesting to know because it
was so massive, Like how me being an Arizona not a lot of the
people were even like considering that it would be you know, it was real
because of what the media and you know, your own government. Yeah,
because you so there's always more people watching the TV than there are actual witnesses
to the event. So for them to be able to put a story out,
you know, it happens with everything, doesn't it. So the people
just believes the story. This goes out on the TV. So unless you're
a witness to some of these things, when you know what they're putting out
on TV is not what you actually saw, yes, you know. And
you know what's interesting is I didn't see it, but because I was so
fixated on the comment, because that's that time where the comment was out,
and that was that I was more interested in the comic because I'm like,
wow, what is that? And I that's when you know, I started
getting interested in astronomy and my dad told me it's a comment and I'm like,
well, why does it look like that? It is it going to
hit us? Because it looked really close and he said, no, it's
it's eyes. It's made of ice rock and the reason why you could see
its tail is because that's like the particle's coming off of the rock. And
yeah, so interested, So, yeah, that's true. And a lot
of people were so fixated on it because you know, Arizona has clear sky,
so you would think that more people would have seen the lights because we
were always looking up in the sky, like every day I would be like
looking for the comet, and but I didn't didn't. I wasn't close enough
to see the lights because where I was living at you wouldn't be able to
see it from my end. Probably would need to be a high But yes,
so you've actually had the UFO experiences yourself. Also you've seen a couple.
Yes, I have, as a matter of fact. It's weird.
But it was in the backyard here and this is when I drew and it
was kind of cloudy, but I was looking up and I took my dog
out and I saw it was so quick though, but what I saw was
like it was like a triangle. But I don't know if it was a
triangle. You know how everybody talks about those triangle UFOs. This one I
have to show you it because it's just like the way that it didn't look
like a regular plane, because we do get planes that kind of come through
here, and we have you know, where we live is close to Manchester
Airport and then also Birmingham, right and so but Manchester there, it looks
like we're in the way were of their flight zone, so planes always come
out and we can see them. But this was actually much closer than the
planes. So I was I thought it would be those the smaller planes that
kind of come through here, because we also have a small little airport that
they fly out personal airplanes what are they called airplanes? Private airplanes, And
but you could hear them, right, you could hear those planes, so
I would always know that it's coming because I could hear it. But what
this was, It was so fast, but I was only able to see
half of it because the other half was hidden by the cloud, and I
possibly was only able to sit for two seconds, but it was like half
It looked like a triangle because I only was able to see half, and
then I saw maybe like one light or two. Like I said, it
was so hard because it was just you have to look at it. It
had a metallic base and yeah, so that was one time where I was
able to see something that close. It was here, and then we went
to what is that party that you guys have or some people throw a party
for that Eurovision? Oh Eurovision? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
the the pain of Yeah, it's the Eurovision song contest where we unfortunately
get involved in. Yeah said yeah, okay, so our friends the worst
music on the planet, I would say most of the time, Yeah,
it is. When I first got introduced, I was like, what the
heck is this? Yeah, you get all sorts of freaks on the I
know, some of those radios, the ones, yeah, the ones that
come from like Sweden, they have like the funky bands. I must apologize
to any of the international listeners out there. Oh yes, I know.
Yes, they're very talented, but it's kind of funky. We love you,
we love your time, right. We've got enough freaks over here in
the UK anyways. So and in the States too. Yeah. Well,
I mean there's been some good music covers coming out. I mean we had
came out and the Bucks Fees and a few others. But so there's been
a few freaky ones a lot the way as well, I think it's just
a good time to like gather all kinds of countries together. Yeah, anything
peaceful is good. But you know what I'm saying, We always we always
get voted to the bottom, don't we In the UK. I don't think
anyone likes it pretty much. I wish the States were involved, but then
it wouldn't be called Eurovision. Well okay, you say that, but they've
got Australia's in it now, So how can Australia be in the Eurovision song
called I See I know, we're going off. We're going off for a
tangent. It's not quite It doesn't make sense, is it. It's crazy.
So there's absolutely no reason why the USA could come into it. I
don't think you're right. You're right, we needed, we need to join
in. But so Eurovision, I don't know. Is it in March or
oh it's around about Easter time that type of Yeah, it is around about
March, I think. So we got invited to a party and it was
a Eurovision party. We were there and yeah they well I we didn't get
the memmos. So everybody else is dressed up and we're just dressed you know.
They were dressed up in costumes and we're just dressed. I'm like,
oh, I didn't know where'posed to get dressed. It was it was a
good time. The thing is I want to say is I was drinking,
but my husband wasn't. So, you know, in case of any of
the listeners, so this is this is an admission, is it that you
were drinking? Yeah, so I was drinking. I had a couple of
drinks, but my husband wasn't drinking. And so we come outside. You
know, we wanted to do this, you know, I, like I
said, I love looking out and that, you know, if it's a
clear night. I and I had and I have like my gay warm suitor.
I'm by the fire. I love looking out in the sky. It's
just always draws my attention. So we went out. They had a fire
and it was just me and my husband and I put my head up and
I'm looking out the stars and I see something and I'm like, and you
know, I look at the sky quite a bit, so I can tell,
you know, if it's a satellite, the way the movement is,
I can tell if it's a star or you know, a planet or such.
I have an app on my phone that tells me to and I also
can tell if it's a plane or a helicopter or even a weather balloon.
But this was interesting because the way that it maneuvered in the sky was really
weird. Like a satellite wouldn't move that way. An airplane no way,
because it would explode. If it was a drone, it would have been
too high, you know. I don't know how barred the drones can fly
it was, so it's too high. And so but the way it did
is I go. I was telling my husband. I was like, look,
I was like, there's something in there. And whatever it was,
it moved from like left to right and then up and then it was going
up and then disappeared. Mm. And and I said, tell me you
saw that, please, because I'm drinking and you're not. Did you see
that? And he did, so he could he could vouch for that.
Yeah, So what goes from left to right in a straight line and then
right going up and then just vanishes out of nowhere? Yeah, well you
said that certainly wasn't a satellite doing that. And that's very sim I've seen
as well, and other people for saying things like that. Yeah, and
that one right there was like the most because I have these binoculars and sometimes
I would just when everybody's asleep, and you know, I just like to
connect with the stars before I go to bed. If it's a clear knight,
I'll look up in the sky. I can see the satellites and such
with these binoculars. But and there's other things that I have seen, but
I couldn't really I don't have the right equipment to kind of determine what it
was. I don't really like to talk about it, sure, because I
want to have good evidence, but for this one, the way it moved
from left to right then going up and disappearing. But does that well exactly?
I mean when I was young, I mean I've told this story a
few songs. I was probably about eight or nine, living in London,
this is where I was born, and I was actually watching a star that
was moving and stopping and moving and stopping, you know, and obviously we
know stars don't do that. There was only when at a time I just
thought it was start moving and stopping. But obviously when I got to be
a teenager and I thought back on that and I thought, what what was
that? You know? It was? We know stars, don't you.
No, it wasn't following me as such, but I was sitting on my
steps where I lived in London. I'll just look at it was like,
you know, like the early evening when the stars are just coming out and
you can just sort of see them, and it's like it must have been
spring or summer or sometime. But yeah, I'll just I just noticed this
stars stop moving upwards. I know it was coming downwards. Actually it was
coming downwards. It was coming downwards and then stopping. And then because it
was to my left if you sort of like thinking sitting on the steps,
it was actually to my left and it was coming down stopping, and then
it was stayed there for a couple of minutes or even even a minute or
so, and then start moving downwards again. Now I'm talking about them,
I'm talking about the late nineteen fifties because I'm a bit older than you.
So, yeah, we didn't have such things as satellites and things flying about
then. But even then, satellite stones don't do that, so or there
wasn't drowns right there. There were no such things as drones back then.
But what can stop and then move and stop that and I've seen that type
of thing since Renders From Forest as well, where the famous UFO incident happened.
Several of us have seen these things move and stop and move and stop
as well together sort of thing. And that's here in the UK. That's
here in the UK. Renders From Yeah, in Suffolk. Oh, I
would like to go there and camp out and explore the skies. Well,
it's an amazing forest. I mean, obviously if you have a fancy coming
down this way, I could take you up there and you met a few
people that were actually involved in the research on the Rendition Forest incident. I
don't know if you know too much of about that in nineteen eighty. Look,
it's probably the probably one that I've seen came across. Everyone's heard of
Roswell, haven't they in the state. Well, they call that that Renders
Forest incident. The UK's Roswell. It's supposed to be one of the UFO
excuse me, one of the uf biggest UFO events in the world actually,
because it was actually involving in the military. Okay, is it where that
guy touched the UFO? Yeah, Jim Peniston, Yeah, he's a good
friend in the forest. Yeah, And there was a memo written by by
Colonel Charles Holt called the Whole Memo, which is out there. And Colonel
Holt's a good friend of mine as well. He lives in the States.
Obviously, because they were American troops, they weren't, you know, they
were based here. Yes, that bent Waters and yes, I so we're
able to go. So we're even though it's and of course, is there
still a base around there, the base. Yeah, there's actually a Cold
War museum there which is actually where the you know, the base is still
there, but obviously it's a it's an industrial complex now, but they've still
got the flight lines and everything, and some of the forest is actually still
there, but a lot of it's not quite the same as it was back
then. They've actually got a UFO memorial there, which, yeah, they've
got they made this. I think they spent about fifteen sixteen pounds on this,
a UFO statue type of thing and placed it not quite where the UFO
laded, but they've actually got and they've got a UFO trail as well,
where you can follow where I supposedly follow where the UFO was supposed to have
landed. Over three nights two or three nights it was. But yes,
a famous area. I'm going to go to that this here. That's well
because we're going to be doing a lot of staycation, so that would that's
that would be a well if you, if you if if you fancy coming
down this way. There's a lady, a good friend of mine again.
She wrote a book called Skycrash, Brenda Butler. Now I know Brenda well,
and you could go visiting another talk with her as well. Okay,
and what is what is Skycrash? Is it? Yes? Skycrash is about
the render. Brenda was one of the first people that investigated the UFO incident
from nineteen eighty and this book is it's called Skycrash. It's it's a bit
hard to get hold of. Now there's been an updated version that it's called
Skycrash throughout time and that's actually written with Philip Philip Kenselo. Believe it or
not, because Philip has been there a few times. He's been involved in
some of the research in the later years. But Philip Hady's own experiences there.
You know a lot of people have experience. There's a lot of things
going on. I spent quite a few times walking around there sort of hop
because I used to live fairly near the area. I've moved to six now,
but yes, we used to sort of have walks around the forest and
sort of the hop hoster in the morning in the pitch black. Yeah,
and we saw There's been quite a few scary incidents there, and people have
seen lots of things there. It's a very very strange area, and it
makes you wonder if that's why they built the base there in the first place,
you know, because you do hear that somewhere where some of these bases
all over the world are based, they do have some strange areas that they
seem to be close to. So I'm going to put that down. So
let's see here. So a lot of people that just visit there, they
all some of them experienced something. Yeah, I forgot. There's there's a
few friends of mine that have had some bad and good experiences there. Yeah,
some very scary experiences actually as well or not what kind of scary experiences.
There's a friend that people know, Derek Savory. He is a friend
of Cener of ours. Now. He and his brother visited the woods one
night. The forest I should say, you know, I called it the
woods or the forest, whatever you want to call it, and they actually
his story goes that, now his brother actually saw it too, and his
son actually saw it as well. So I can't actually say they're all lying
because I don't believe that for a moment. But apparently there's some sort of
a giant that was in the woods or the forest. Yeah, kind of.
I think it's some sort of elemental being, and it seemed to be
that they were trying to stop them from walking down this pathway and anyway.
To cut a long story short, they actually ran away to get out of
the forest, and his brother actually felt some blood or these you know,
you know what you get a cold feeling under his coat and it seemed like
he'd had some sort of scratches and the blood was actually coming through his shirt.
Oh my gosh. So yeah, so that was one of the scary
experiences. But they think that that giant, if you want to call it
a giant, actually was trying to tell them that it wasn't safe there for
some reason or another. But it's a really strange story, but yeah,
I know, there it will. Yeah, those type of stories scared the
life. Yeah, I mean, the thing was his brother used to go
there quite regularly. He came over from Somerset or Devon or somewhere like that
quite regularly to go there. And apparently he didn't go back there for two
years. Was it scared him so much? Right? And and some of
those things follow you, yeah, like an attachment? Yeah, we did,
so I'll just tell you this quickly. We did have a friend who
was actually died on the way home because he used to go to rend the
Ship quite often, and we think that he got an attachment because he was
going down there and he actually died on the way home one night, but
going yeah, he drove his car into a tree. What and and it
was around the time that he visited that area. Well, it was going
there quite often. He used to spend a lot of time in Menusam And
but he was actually saying that he thought he had an attachment at the time.
And he did have his own problems as well. We don't really want
to go too much into that, but we was always said don't drive so
fast and things like that. So was it a normal accident, I don't
know. But Brenda, who I was mentioned earlier, now she is a
psychic as well, she's a medium. I don't know if a medium is
the right world for Brenda. She is psychic. But she says that Chris,
who was the guy who died, was a friend of else. He's
actually visited visited her since, So, I mean, you can take that.
I believe Brenda she will, you know, I don't believe that she's
the type would come up with a story like that. But he's told her
that he didn't mean to kill you to die, he was sort of,
but he thinks it was something to do with this attachment that he had.
But yeah, if you have, if you ever came down this way,
you could sort of certainly, you know, introduce you to Brenda. I'm
sure you'd find it interesting talking to her. Yeah, I would love that,
And I'll bring my sage so that before I leave. I was,
yeah, your sage is very important, as I've discovered over the last couple
of years. Yes, I would say to myself, I I don't like
to watch because there's another part that I will talk to you about. But
I really don't like talking about it because I've had some these are some horrible
experiences and and I don't know if it's connected, but I will tell you.
So like I can't watch Exorcist movies or just short stories or anything like
our shows, you know, because I mean I'm forty years old, and
I because of those experiences, I still sleep at the nightlight on. But
so one I was staying with my brother and his wife at one time,
and I had this really horrible experience where I was dreaming I was getting attacked
chased by a raccoon. But in that same dream, it kind of turned
into where like merge into a different dream where I was laying and like I
could feel like I was laying in this same position on the bed and and
I was dreaming that I was in the room, laying in the bed at
the same you know position and such, and that I was going to attack
by a demon. And the demon was black with red eyes, and I
had kind of like a like a like a a coat on but not like
oh what is you know, like Dracula and how he has that coat like
that, and he was like scratching me. And then like in my dream,
I turned into this lion. I'm this is ridiculous, and I started
attacking it, like I started fighting back, and like I bit him and
then he he went away whatever he she went down underneath the bed. So
then when I I woke up and I was like, what what's going on?
And you know that time I was in the States. I'm just like
breathing. And then I heard a knock under the bed like like that,
I could hear it, and I was like, was it the bed?
Just did it? Just like why would the bed do that after this dream?
You know, like it would have been like is this the creek?
So I jumped down and I was like, you know what, I'm just
going to face my fear. And I looked under the bed and nothing was
under there. And then I heard something at the window and I was like,
so they went to the window, and I just said, you know
what, leave me alone, Just stay away from me, leave me alone.
I'm not scared of you. And yeah, after that, I again
I couldn't sleep and I never experienced anything like that again. But because of
that, I just I stopped watching those Extra system horror movies. Yeah,
any any horror movie. I mean I can I can still watch them,
but if it talks about like extorsists or demons, I'm like, I'm not
going to watch. Do you do you watch any of the ghost shows.
You get a lot of the US ghost shows, but ghost Hunters and things
like that. Yeah, I do watch some of them, but again,
some of them just it's just they scare me. I do scare you.
Yeah, I was just I wondered if how you felt about them. We
we've got We've got some great ones over here called help my House is halted.
I don't know if you've watched those. Yeah, I think the ones
out here are much probably scarer because there's so much history and yeah, so
many things happen in one location. You can only imagine like what happens,
and I would somebody would have to pay me thousands to go and walk through
something like that. Yeah, I was gonna ask you if you if you've
ever been on any of those guys, tellt yourself. But it doesn't sound
like you. I have not. I mean, you know, I I'm
just like when I hear stories like, oh, they will follow you home,
They'll you know, I'm just like, uh, you know, what's
an interesting thing. I'm just gonna jump It's it's kind of the same paranormal.
So my on my mom's side, the girls, a lot of the
sisters and their first generation cousins. They've experienced this ghost, this lady,
and they call her, they call her the lady. Oh my gosh,
I shouldn't even said that because I've been spared. Well okay, I'm not
going to say that, but you heard that, yeah, soryal study.
Yeah, so this is really true. And they don't like to talk,
like if I would mention it to them, they I think they would be
upset that I would bring it up. But the last one I heard was
from my cousin Jovanna. And there's this lady. She's skinny and she has
like she just has long nails. Gosh, I can't remember the color her
hair. But they would she would haunt them, she would, they would
hear her and then like she would in they're always she's always appeared in the
in the restroom, in the toilet room, like where the shower is at.
And yeah, she would haunt them. So she haunted my cousin Jovanna.
She said, she's haunted my mom. She's haunted my Thea Carol,
my Dea Rosie. Sorry, I'm Cynthia because I come from a Mexican background.
Uh so, yeah, so that's an interesting thing that so it might
see scary to go to the ballroom. Well when I was younger. Now
I can go to the bathroom. But it's always just something that they told
me. Don't talk about her, don't bring her up, don't don't you
know what's the word for it, you know, when you're you talk about
something, you're you're don't connect yourself to it, or just don't there.
I'll mention there is a tone book. I think, Yeah, it's just
something that you don't want to bring that energy, that the energy of whatever
it is out. So but it's interesting because whatever it was, it wasn't
just happening at somebody one person's house. It was bothering all of them at
this house. And it was the same figure, did they ever think about
getting someone to have a look and see, you know a lot, an
investigation of some sort. They were so traumatized, and these are grown women,
you know, grown women that that just told us not to talk about
it anymore. It's just bad experience. But having those stories where people are
talking about their experiences with you know, alien beans or you know, abductions
and such, were some of them think that maybe like they were demons,
but maybe they were just aliens right there, right, it's like the lady
what was she really a ghost? Or was she you know, some other
being? Who knows? Yeah, you've actually raised a point which I've started
to realize some point. I think there's a lot of connections with all paranormal
things that happen, not ghosts and aliens and UFOs and everything else instead dimensional
experiences. I think they've all got a connection, I really do. Yeah.
Or was it somebody that knew them that that was trying to connected them
but they didn't understand it, so they were just scared. I don't know
who knows, because it's said that this figure was showing up at different people's
homes. You know, it wasn't just you know, it was like you
say, it was a lot of attachment type of thing as well, wasn't
it if it was following them? Had I ever done things like wagiable stuff
like that? Oh? Possibly? I can only imagine what my family used
to do when they're I mean most you know, I was just getting to
do that at some point. Don't they get a Wigi board down? And
yeah, I think so. I remember hearing about the Ouiji board and such,
But so I they possibly Another thing is my father had experienced grace,
some grace, so I think it's I think it's you know, I think
that's where my experiences come from, because they do say that, you know,
if one of you is in the family is experiencing it, there possibly
is another. So my father, actually, he doesn't really like talking about
it. And I actually told him that I was coming on the show,
but he only gave me just when we were younger. He would talk about
it all the time, but everybody was making fun of him, saying,
oh, you're just crazy, or how much did you drink? And this
and that, so they kind of like put him down throughout the years,
so he doesn't really like to talk about it anymore. I remember he would
say that he would wake up at Mark's and I remember him showing me,
and you know, I was even laughing at him because you know, it's
like, oh, this is what are you talking about? This is not
what are you doing. You're embarrassing me. I didn't really take him serious,
and I feel bad because now that I've experienced it, I'm like,
oh, my gosh. You know, maybe that was part of the reason
why you did have your experiences. Yeah, that was some sort of does
to tell you that he was telling you about his experience, and I apologized
to him. I was like, you know what, Dad, I'm sorry
that I made front of you and ridiculee what is the word ridicule? Ridicule?
Yeah, yeah, ridical ridicule. You know, I didn't believe you
back then. I was young, and you know, I just it was
just something that I was just not you know, didn't I didn't really know
information and such. But yeah, I apologized to him and told him about
mine, and he's just sorry how I was that he was having those experiences.
He is sixty now and I'm forty, and I think I was around.
I was in my teenager years, so if he was around, but
its a something like, yeah, yes, I don't know if he's experienced
anything recently, but yeah, he said it would happen quite a bit.
And then it's from what I understand, I don't know it still happens.
I mean, he's not the only one, is he. I mean it
sounds very similar to the witness Dreever stories of the Grays appearing in his room.
And what's interesting is he was able to see them like he was able
to identify that they were grays, whereas I couldn't see their face or anything.
I just know I was going to actually ask you that. I was
going to say, have you got any descriptions of the alias you saw?
But you've just answered that question now, so I couldn't see. I just
saw there, just like their silhouettes, you know, so bright behind them.
And in a way, that makes your story more believable. I'm not
saying more believable than your fathers don't. I'm not saying that for a moment,
but it makes your story more believable. The fact that you can't describe
what they were, you know, because if you were, if you were
making something up, you come up with all sorts of descriptions. It was
a reption with big ears or something like that. But the fact that you
didn't actually see what it was. No, we're just there and and like
I said, I just I felt like there were I was related to them,
like I felt like, you know, like we were we were doing
something really fun, and I you know, I had a really good time
with them, and then I have to stay by and then they're like,
well we're you know, and I didn't want I didn't want them to leave.
I didn't want them. I was like, is this It was kind
of like yours. I was like, is this the last time I'm going
to see you? You know? And but it was really emotional, Like
I said, I could still feel it right now, like yeah, it's
just weird, like I miss them, but I don't know who I'm missing.
Esal do you what you should? You may well do it already,
but you should keep a notepad by your bedside. And do you do that
already? Yes? I do. I Actually there was another UFO too that
I saw and I wrote the date on here. It was Sunday, June
fourth, at twelve around twelve pm, between twelve and two eighteen, sorry,
so somewhere in between that time. I know it's like a two hour
difference, but somewhere around that time, there was an object in the sky
because I was washing dishes and I have a big window right there above where
I washed my dishes, and I was looking in the sky and there's a
pole and there was a black chrome object and it whatever it was designed the
sun. It was illuminated by the sun and so it made it look white
on one side. But the reason is because it was rotating. It was
like spinning and all crazy. But it was small, so I thought it
was a drone or something. And so it was like rotating. So I
used my binoculars to see and there was like lights on it and they were
like reflecting again from the sun. And it was kind of rectangle with one
light on each end, and it was like four d ish like it had
all four ends and such. But it was like rotating, So a drone
can't do that. It was like spinning. So I looked and so and
it wasn't. It wasn't. You're right in the daytime. So and then
I try to run upstairs to get a different angle, and it was gone.
So then I ran out through my back and to see if it was
like when some if it was a drone or something, I can kind of
catch it to where it went. And no, it was nowhere in sight.
I couldn't hear anything. So that was another one that I wrote down.
But again, you know, I wish I had better equipment. Yeah,
and then there was a dream I had on the twenty third of January,
and it was at this spacecraft. The spacecraft was long and in the
center was like this big pole but I guess it was like there was windows
all around it, this big long pole and then there's a bottom base.
It was kind of like like a like it looked squarish or something like.
It was kind of weird. I drew it just like I can kind of
explain. And then there was like a gap and then above the top of
the pole was like this cylinder kind of thing where energy that's how it was
moving the spacecraft. But yes, I don't know why I dreamt that.
And you know what's weird is there's movies and shows kind of had the same
thing. Like I'm like, oh, I dreamt something like that. Yeah,
yeah, I think they do get a lot of the ideas from from
real things. Actually, most right people telling Yeah, when you were growing
up, did you ever watch some science fiction shows and things like that?
Did you have an interest? That's what I'm trying to say, because a
lot of people don't actually have an interesting dots that type of thing until they
actually have their own experiences. No, I did not, Like I never
was into Star Trek until I was much older. I mean I used to
watch certain things, but I wasn't like a big old Star Wars nerd You
know, I watched it once and that was it, you know, but
I wasn't. I wasn't into it until I got much older. M hm.
So yeah, but I can see I think, you know, at
some point, I think you'll be writing a book about all this. That
would be interesting. I would need some help. I mean, I hope
that I do. I mean a lot of people are like, I don't
want to have any more experiences, but I kind of do. You know,
I kind of feel special because I've had those experiences. And yeah,
the thing is more, Yeah, you're not just a believer, you're a
know. Once you once you, once you've seen these things or had these
experiences, you're not you don't have become just a believer, You become a
Knowah. Yeah that's and I just want to explore it more. And you
know, and whoever it was that visited me that apparently, I know,
I would love to see them again. Well, I mean, if they're
listening to this show, please play with you, right, who are you?
Well? You never know, do you? I mean, he's going
to go all over the place, so they may well be listening and they'll
know that you'll come on this show tonight. Yeah, we'll see whatever it
is, right, It's it's just it's a small fraction of what's really going
on, right because you have all these absolutely yeah, a little story and
then there's you know, connections that they're saying with our government with well as
you know, you've got your experiences and you will see connections with other people's
stories that will become very similar to your your own. Yeah, and you
know the same as like the Philip and Ronnie story. But anyway, it's
been fantastic avenue on the show. I hope to get to see you again
at some point. And I do mean that if have your fancy coming down
south a little bit and you know, maybe the sum or whatever, that's
the must. You know, have a little looking read about Rendallsham and you
find that that's a quite a big event that happened. And it's actually along
part on part with Roswell with the information. How do you spell it again,
render Sham? It's r E N okay, d l A okay,
s h okay. I am all right. I actually faced. Oh you're
not on Facebook or anything, are you? Yeah? I'm on Facebook,
I'm on Instagram, and I'm on Twitter. Yes, all right, well,
I'm not sure if we connected. Actually I didn't know we were.
You were on Facebook? I actually, yeah, I actually I posted our
poster into some of the groups and then I found your group, so I
tagged your group into the other groups that I posted it. Are we connected
on Are we connected on Facebook already? I don't know, but I'll look
for you and add you. Yeah, well, I didn't think you were
on Facebook, so well, has to look for you now. But I've
actually got I've actually got a group on Facebook, a run called the rf
I what's it called? R F I truth? I forgot what it's called.
It's been going for quite a few years. There, what's it called.
I'll send you a link to it anyway, Yes, send me the
link and I'll add myself to it, or I'll request to join the group.
Well, thank you so much. I really had the pleasure to being
on here and sharing my story and hopefully you never know, who knows,
there might be another one. But yeah, no, I mean, thank
you so much of it for actually choosing this show to come on and tell
your story for the first time. It's been a great pleasure talking to you.
It was a great pleasure talking to you in the Awakening, and but
I do hope to get to see you again, and maybe one day you'll
come back on the show again. If you have some more experiences, that
would be nice just to do. I will do that. Okay, yourself
the same, take myself to hear. Take care of yourself. Bye bye,
Yvett, thank you, bye bye bye bye bye bye. Well,
thank you, Yvette. That was brilliant, very interesting. I've got to
say, since we did the show. Just a few days after we did,
we finished doing the recording, Yvette got in touch with me and she
said, I saw something weird the other night. Then she goes on to
explain it was an object of bright orange traveling upwards into the atmosphere towards the
M thirty one galaxy between eighteen thirty one and eighteen forty two. It is
obviously the time when the objects appeared close to Androva, the galaxy. It
disappeared. I didn't have time to take a picture, and I didn't hear
any sounds. Plus there were no clouds. She goes on. When I
first saw the objects, it was going up behind this tree in my neighbor's
yard. I initially thought it was a star. Or celestial object. So
I pulled my skyportal app to identify the star. The reason is I felt,
because behind the tree I couldn't get a good view, that it was
an optical illusion by the leaves. But then it came up traveling above the
tree. The crazy thing is I was on the phone using one hand and
the other hand taking my dog for a peet, as if it knew I
was too occupied to take a pick. But that's just coming from my own
thoughts. So things are still going on with you, and hopefully one day
we'll get it back on the show and perhaps we'll have some more updated tales.
But I think she should really write that book anyway, right, My
next guest on the next show will be a young lady again named Holly wood
Well. Holly was due to come on the show some a little while back,
but unfortunately she wasn't well. Now I understand it, Holly is going
to be doing the introductions of the Mini Awakening conference. I believe that's up
in Bolton, is it. I'm quite sure over the weekend before the show
goes out. This show will come out on the day after she's finished that
conference. So unfortunately, that's just the way it's worked out, I say,
hollywoods due to be on the show a few weeks back, but we
have to do a change anyway. That's Hollywood and that's on, Yeah,
Hollywood, and that's on February nineteenth, Monday, of course, so I
hope you'll join me for that one. As always, if you'd like to
get in touch with me, my email address is David Young too, QN
at yahoo dot co dot uk. That's David Young two, QN at yahoo
dot co dot uk. So once again I wish Mark Johnson will as our
manager. As I mentioned at the beginning of the show, I'm sure you'll
be happy about again soon. I hope you'll join me for the February the
nineteenth show with Hollywood. So until then, take care of yourselves everyone,
Bye bye. Paranormal Dimensions is as great and powerful as our celestial stars up
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