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fix up, mister Davis. This was a really, really fun episode.
This was sort of like this is classic Scifer in the sense that it was
very dialogue heavy, just long conversations. Not a lot of different set pieces,
just long conversations in like Jerry's apartment and on the phone, which were
just felt so real, felt like a conversation you could still have today.
I just I just I just loved it. I thought that, um,
Cynthia, what a character. Well, of course you're gonna like Cynthia because
she, of course is played by in the in the credits of this episode,
she's Maggie Jacobson. She may be known as better known as Maggie Wheeler
and Maggie Wheeler of course played Janis on Friends, which is the subject of
the One about Friends, another area podcast from the Fourth fe or Pals at
the four Finger discount network, and my wife and I host that show.
So even you enjoy some Friends, make sure you check out that one,
the One about Friends byes Guy. As you were saying this episode. Just
a terrific performance by by miss Wheeler. Yeah, just I don't know if
we ever, do we ever see Cynthia again, Does she ever make another
appearance? Yeah, I mean she just lit up the room and left because
she felt very much in sync with the Seinfeld style, you know, played
well off. So yeah, but I think the bulkore scenes were with Julia
Louis Drivers and those two year they bounce off each other really well or played
off each other really very very well well, So I think we don't see
all that often is Elaine having a female friend to bounce off from long portions
of time. So, like she said, she's had friends on the show,
but they've usually been bitchy or whatnos Nor roommates annoying having her with a
friend who's on the same wavelength and having a kind of like a Jerry Eline
kind of conversation a Bard. Yeah, they've sort of seen both equally neurotic,
Yes, I guess, And I think looking at it, Elaine sort
of has if she feels like she's kind of got the upper hand in this.
It's like, oh, she likes her friend clearly, but also recognized
that her friend has a few flaws. Few folds or whatever, and it's
an opportunity to feel a bit a bit good about yourself. Like Jerry says
at the very end of the episode when he's talking about fix Up, he
goes, you know, that's a good thing, but it's also a power
trip for you. You're the one who's you know, sort of steering things
in the direction that you think they should go in. That's why Jerry did
this. Jerry didn't really want to set up because he wanted George to find
happiness. Even he says, he's like, I just won't work out.
He just wants to be able to have the goss, wants to be the
puppet master. Yeah. So look, one thing I did notice about this
episode, and look, I'm gonna sound like I'm losing my marbles here or
losing my memory or whatever, but Seinfeld just had canned laughter before, right,
or I had sort of audience participation laughter. It felt really over the
top this time. It felt like there was a lot of canned laughter or
studio laughter, or live in front of a studio audience laughter. It just
maybe the show was gaining popularity. But you know, you notice it's I
think it's I've got it like as my fifth or six point, He's like,
very obtrusive applause, very obtusive laughter. And you know when kramerinds like
Cramer. That's the most substantial reaction he's received on the show so far.
I think when he's watching the room like it was like to the point where
you couldn't even hear him, and he could tell that Michael Richards just just
moved on. He was like, I'm not fucking waiting because when you wait
for the applause, it sort of kills the kills my momentum of the story,
doesn't it. It really does, And I think you know enough people
sort of take the piss out of that where someone sounding basking and basking it
Okay, now I'll start my line. It's like, don't forget why we're
here, guys. We had to tell this particular story and this and this
was a good one. And Larry David he made a point I remember watching
it in the DVDs that he hated the crowd responding to crame it where he
said, you can get to the point where that to just tell people when
he enters, you remain quiet or your laugh or whatever, it's not look
because he could see that Cramer was becoming, you know, the the f
the Fonzie of the show, and it's like, no, no, this
is sign Feld, not the Cramer Show. Because once once one character sort
of takes over, it's hard to pull it back. It quickly becomes the
show about them. Well, it's like, we, you know, we
recently recorded an episode of Going Down to South Park where we talked a bit
about the old sitcom Good Times. That quickly became the donal Mate Show because
the character JJ kept sing and everyone was really happy about that as opposed to
the stories that the show was telling. So, um, yeah, no,
I'm holy with Larry David on that about you know, you guys shut
up. Larry comes out specifically shut the fuck up. So it wasn't just
the Cramer entering the room. It was when Elaine says something. It was
like the who you told him? Girlfriend? That what's going on here?
This isn't Married with Children? I know? And was it the Simpsons that
took the piss out of that? Were you know, you know they were
doing the Married with Children. I'm trying to remember the thing that took the
piss out of Married with Children is like Simpsons did it and it's like,
no peg and then he flushes the toylet. Oh, let's have sex,
no piglet. Anyone's like oho, And it's like, yeah, yeah,
I can understand if you're a creative individual, you've careered to show. You
sort of poured your heart and soul and energy into it. And you know,
it sounds churlish to say, oh, you guys are digging it for
the wrong reasons, but you know, if you've got a vision of something,
I don't know, I think you're also anticipating the response to it,
and when the response is different to what you had in mind, you could
probably get a little frustrated by that. But they'd never been in a show
in this format before Seinfeld, where they'd prevented the audience from participating like that.
It's just like, oh, this is a live sitcom. He's the
funny character. He's like the the wacky neighbor. That's who we're supposed to
gravitate towards. He's the see him all that often usually, so it's like
when he comes on stage, like oh, yeah, he's our favorite's like
no, no, this is different. People, Shut the fuck up.
This isn't fucking Morgan Mendy, this is this is si Feld. But yeah,
I really enjoyed that. And also I watched the on the Inside Look
Again, which is like a little bind sand Stocker on the DVDs. And
Jason Alexander has said that this was sort of when the show writers and the
show runs realized that he was willing to have his physical attributes really be the
butt of a joke. You know, he's not fat, he's strong,
and he says like he was willing to be, in his words, a
sexual buffoon. And once sort of like because he said at this point,
Larry's sort of he'd write jokes about being bored and things like that. You
sort of look at George, I sort of look at Jason, you okay
with this? And he'd be like, yeah, I'm fine. But this
is like this episode here was when they truly realized, Okay, we can
have some fun with George's weight, and we can, and Jason's not going
to feel bad about it. He's willing to. He accepts who he is.
This is who he is, and he's going to make the most of
it. And you know what I mean. And yeah, this is sort
of where he says the George character really flourished and they could really realize,
hey, we can make fun of him being born, make fun of him
being fat and short and things like that, and that would go on to
become a rural part of the character going forward. It's great when you've got
a performer like that, who's just I guess feel as Bulletproof gets I think
that's the Yeah, it's like, okay, well this is what you're working
with. You take advantage of that. Yeah. Yeah. It was written
by by Larry Charles and Lane Pops, and they have said that um or
Larry said that this happened to them. So they they had friends and they
try to fix them up and it just went terribly. That's where I got
the idea for this. They pitch it to Jerry and Larry and they said,
you go right this straight away. And they won the Emmy for this
episode for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Writing in a Comedy Series and the Seinfeld's first
Emmy, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. And a cool little thing is
that Jerry actually read out the winner at that year's award show, and they
knew that Jerry was going to be reading out the under the award. They
didn't never going to win, so they said they were in the lima on
the way there and he wrote like this speech and it goes for like five
minutes, and they got there, like you realize, if you win,
it's thirty second, he's gonna get five minutes. And they just they scrutched
that up and wrote a new speech for Jerry to read for them, and
you can actually find this on on on YouTube, and it're gonna goes for
like thirty seconds or so. But Jerry's reading the speech and it's they wrote
it in the way that Jerry is talking himself up, like you know,
he's a humanitarian and he's this and the other. And then Larry Child rips
the note out of Jerry's hand says, coming, that's enough, as if
to say Jerry was like taking into advantage of the situation. But like it
was very, very funny. I thought it was cool that Jerry Seinfeld got
to read out the first Emmy Award win for Seinfold, Like what are the
others? That's fantastic. Yeah, And also I like that they still reference
the past. Um So Elaine mentions how George tried to poison his boss and
that's exactly what happened when he got fired, remember in the Revenge. Yeah,
that is a good one. But what were your favorite moment from The
Fix Up God? First of all, Yeah, just a great moment in
editing where it's in the very early scene where you I think it's Synthia saying,
oh, she's hopeless or she's desperate or something, and they cut to
George's eating spaghetti really badly or just being an absolute slob. I thought that
was fantastic, and it's a nice sort of seed plant for you know,
the very end of the episodes. I thought that was great. One thing
I noticed, and you know, this is done in the early nineties,
so people we may well be taping it on their on their videocachet recorder.
Yeah whatever. But there's something I noted that Jerry has his shelf full of
videotapes and there's a scene that actually takes place right in front of that,
and I'm pausing. There's some of the titles on these videotapes, and I
wrote some of them down. They've got titles like easy Love, Gunfights,
rug Burn, and one is just called the title. So it's like,
I'm wondering who you know, if there was a production design manager who did
that, or if it feels like something Larry David would do. Let's look
at si VHS tape titles. Whether it's like one of those things that they
change each episode, because like, for example, in Friends, they have
the chalkboard or the whiteboard on the back of the channeler and jobby store or
whatever, is the us to write something different on every episode. Let's see
if that's the thing that goes on in Seinfeld? Does anyone know the meaning
behind the titles? Look at look at it Reddit thread here from last year
or the VHS tapes. What are the ones that you had? Easy Love,
gun Fights, Rugburn, that's probably my favorite. Yeah, yeah,
so we've got easy Love. Gun fights are great men. He's another one
here, so yeah. So obviously it's just something that's made up. I
guess. Yeah. I don't think these are actual. I mean it's like
Rochelle Rochelle or prognosis neg no, no, no, no, it's just
someone who got bought or it's like quick, we need titles. It's like
title. But you know, I mean, if if you're seeing something like
easy Love or Rugburn, you're assuming these might be pornos. Yeah that's true.
But no. The thing is, though, this is an era where
freeze framing isn't really a thing. You didn't really put any easy. I
know the Simpsons were putting you in there, but the Simpsons pulled out of
Eastern reag into the show not expecting anyone to ever finally except for themselves,
like they knew they'd be in there. But people, but people at home,
would never actually pick up on it. And then DVDs came around,
It's like, oh shit, we can't hide anything anymore because they can free
name it. But yeah, I think the idea would have been just quickly
just write anything on that, like gunfights. That's pretty cool. What else
did you enjoy? I like this bit about about buying condoms at the at
the pharmacists at the cameras do stand up, wasn't it? Yeah? It
was good stick. I mean, something I've never understood though, is just
the embarrassment about buying condoms. Yeah, you know, it's like telling the
world you get late, what's wrong with it. That's why I always sort
of looked at when I bought someone I was younger, I was like,
that's right, I'm getting lucky, unless, of course, you know you're
thirteen years old or would well, of course they were probably thirteen year olds
out there who are getting laid good on them. Yeah, it's and also
a acadims way being shy about it. So you buy the actual large ones.
It's like they're looking mate, come on, I'm happy to sell them
to you. But yeah, let's be realistic. My favorite goals high.
That's fine, But I really enjoyed George just immediately giving up when he finds
out that Cynthia didn't mention the phone call. Oh well, I'll go did
it. But that's it. That's it's over, immediately admits and concepts.
That's just going to be finished. I thought that was cool. I really
enjoyed the hair conversation. I think lustrious hair is important to me. It's
important to you. Yeah, okay, I just want to clarify to you
it's very important thick, lustrious hair. Okay, then and well the heir
get stuck. I just thought Jerry's response, and that was really Jerry is
very well. He's getting very good at acting like Jerry. In the first
few episodes, first a couple of seasons. Yeah, hit and Miss.
He's really finding his groove now. They're writing lines and comedy that fits his
abilities. That's yeah. I think there's a few things in there, and
then one of those is very bang on that you know, they know what
the writers know what he's capable of, and tailoring the dialogue and the exchange
is all that to suit him. But also I think he's getting more and
more comfortable and more and more familiar with the people that he's working with.
Yes, you know, and they're able to pick up on each other's rhythms.
Like they say, if you want to be a good chess player,
you play someone who's better than you. Jason Alexander and Julie Louie Draffus and
Michael Richards, they've all done their time in sketch. I think Julie Louie
Dreffus was on Saturday Night Live. Michael Richards was on another TV sketch show,
a sketch comedy show, yess. Alexander's an actor, so you know,
these are all people who sort of have a bit more experience than than
Jerry, and I think working alongside them or working with them, yeah,
it makes him a bit stronger. It's not just confidence with who he's working
with I think as his confidence in the show is now finally succeeding the show
that people are now being as a hit show. So he's just got that
sort of he can tell. He's sort of got that little aura of confidence
around him now where the first couple of seasons it was kind of like,
yeah, I'm still trying. Yeah, I'm still trying to wigger who I
am. And now it's just like I'm Seinfeld from Seinfeld. You know this
show is all about me. And he's just he's got the confidence. He
can really really tell all the way he's acting. Also, my final thing
here is George's excitement add impregnating somebody. I can do it. I did
it. I did it. Say my boys can swim, My boys can
swim. They did it. I can do it. It's so funny,
Like that's the feeling when when Nikola first said she was pregnant. I was
like, damn, I work, they work. We did it. Boys.
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pounds? He can lift one hundred pounds, which is why let's have a
look, say something like fifty five and two kilos? It is forty five
when I was just wrong. It's not too bad. It's getting there.
My first question is Bob Sacamano got a job at a condom factory where it
was in Jersey? Right, I was in New Jersey. I'm pretty sure
they just say Edison, but yeah, oh okay, then I'm pretty sure
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Cynthia? Last good question I want to say, was it, oh,
ship three hours? It's twenty minutes. Only twenty minutes? Nice? Yeah,
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and they're not haven't called me yet? Yeah? Oh eleven forty five?
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The original airdate of The Fix Up was February fifth, nineteen ninety two.
It was written by Larry Charles and Elaine Pope and directed by Tom Sharonez.
Guest star and Maggie Wheeler as Cynthia. The episode kicks off with some
stand up describing or talking about a conductor at a show. I've always thought
this we went and saw Star was and toy story. Recently, Nick and
I were with them with the Life Orchestra, and like they're obviously doing something,
you know, but it's like, I don't understand. I'm always fascinated
by these wiggles of the wand how is that telling them what to do?
I don't I don't get it. I must admit I'm kind of curious about
it as well. This Will reminded me of two things. Brought things two
things to mind. First of all, weird, like a music competition when
I was back in school, and one of the moment that brought the house
down was one particular group had this kid come out as conductor, and that
this kid's name was Will Morgan and Will wash It's popular guy, good sportsman,
very funny, probably the least cultured person you'd ever meet. So for
him to come out with you know, conductor's baton and sort of stand in
front of them, you know, these kids playing music and just going everyone
was like yeah, And of course everyone was in on the joke. I
mean, Will was definitely on the joke that that was very funny. Also,
there's a movie coming out I think early next year called Ta Ta stares
Australian legend Kate Blanchett, and she's playing like a symphony conductor, and I
must have been I'm looking forward to it primarily because apparently it's like, oh,
she's at the top of the game. He's you know, like one
of the best of the Lord. I'm like, well, maybe there's movie
they explain exactly what a conductor does, what makes that good one from a
bad one? Hopefully. Yeah, you're right. I imagine it's about keeping
the flow of them, keeping everybody in sync. But do you mean there's
Jerry points out like, well, you were reading from the same pay can't
be that hard, Kennon. Do they ever look up at the conductor or
are they not looking at their notes? Like at that the sheet music that
I've always just been fascinated by it. Yeah, I guess it's just sort
of steering the orchestra in the direction that they need to go and making sure
that everyone, you know, someone isn't playing too fast or you know,
the overall timber of the music isn't speeding up. It's like, no,
slow down, like let's go down. I don't know. I don't conductor
on the show as a guests to explain it to us, what do you
reckon? Quite possibly without like we'd probably end up with like a trainer trainer,
all right. So George thinks that he just needs to accept that he's
never going to meet anybody. Maybe you won't, he says, hard enough
to meet women you dislike much less like and Joey's it's just he's not passionalized.
But he's not really pay much attention. And my nostrils getting bigger now.
And George wants to know what is the big deal? Why can't just
approach a woman say you know, hello, I'm George and whatnot? And
an attractive woman walks past. He gets all flustered. Yeah that's me when
I was younger. I like, you like to pretend you confident with your
mates, and then a hot girl walks over and you're like, oh,
I don't know what to do anymore. I remember one thing in particular,
and I don't know how I remember this because I was clearly drunk. Actually
at a bar in Hong Kong. This is back in but probably around the
time this episode came out, went out and ended up in Hong Kong.
That's correct. I was living in Hong Kong for a little while and out
of this out of this bar in the nightclub district, and i'd I clearly
had a bit to drink, and I saw this very attractive woman across the
across the bar, and I was just drunk enough thing I should. I'm
just gonna go over and say hard to this woman, you know, and
see what happens from there. And I think I made it to with it,
like a few feet of it, and I saw that she was just
so far out of my own that it would have just been a fool's errand
and I think I just stopped here and said you know what, no,
and then just walked away. But I think actually said that it was like
you know what now, but clearly in a way it was like okay,
and she knew it too, Like I can't not in this arena. I
would love to see that in person, this this hot chick and a guy
approaching her and just stops like two feet short and just goes noah back sway
like that would be hilarious to see, I think, but you also give
him props like at least he at least he's aware enough to know don't embarrass
himself. But sometimes just think I was pretty emptily sometimes it's gonna go for
it. You never know, you could have said something to us. She
might have been could be your wife, now that that is true. And
I think I was like pretty emptibly just like, you know what, this
isn't gonna win well for either. The fear of failures what holds us back,
isn't it? There is that absolutely yep. I just I do have
a very fun memory that just like no, no, just no men out
there, you know. I mean the problem is the good ones. No,
they're good, they know they're in such a man they're just not interesting
in confining themselves to one person. I hate the good ones. There's a
good question. I think he thinks she is. The mediocre ones are available,
but they're so insecure about not being one of the good ones that they're
always going one, I'm not good there for you? What are you doing
with that? And eventually I just go, you're right. I just thought
Maggie Wheel was so funny throughout this whole episode, just everything. She just
she did it so well. It was it was odd though, hearing her
just talk and not yeah yeah, but I thought she was really good.
She um. She asked Elaine. Is Jerry a good one? He thinks
he is? I think I think he thinks yea, which is perfect exactly
as sums up Jerry he thinks he is. She says she needs she needs
someone who's desperate, and then we cut to George with all the spaghetti all
over his face. And I think this episode is the first time we've sort
of got the the implication of George is a messy eater because it comes up
and learn the episodes with the other Sunday down his shirt and things like that.
But um, but yeah, he's um kind of a slob. I
am in the camp of everyone at the table when George is eating being disgusted
when it comes to eating your food, have some form of like restraint,
don't be an animal like oh yeah, And I hate me personally. I
hate loud chewers, like I hate when I can hear something. I hate
what I can hear, the food in your mouth being munched up, like
close your mouth. God's sakes. It just really it's one of my pet
peeves and it sounds stupid, but it's me. No, no, look,
I'm I'm all too aware of it. I mean to the point where
you know I'll be asking something, Can I get an extra knapp and or
do? Then that'd be great, thank you, And he's take a bite,
wipe the mouth, another bite, white the beard. Yes, It's
funny how some meals when it comes to chips, right, some meals you'll
eat chips with a fork, and some meals you're eating with your hand,
Like burger and chips. It's fine to pick up the chips with your hand,
but if you're having a steak you're gonna have you're gonna use the knife
and fork, right, I guess if everything on the on the on the
plate is um his hand for his finger fit, it's fine. But I
remember when I on a date with a girl once at the Sporting Globes long
before I met Nicola, and we both got burger and chips. It was
like Burger Knight actually hit the burger with a knife and fork, and I
was like do I do that? Now? What if I do? And
I was like, fuck it, I'm not it's just awkward. So I
use my hands, my head, and I could tell she's like looking at
me, funny. He's like, look at this animal using his hands,
and I was like using a knife and fork for a fucking burger, Like
what is going on? It was the most It was the most awkward dinner
because I can tell the entire time I'm trying to have this conversation, but
the entire time I can tell she's judging me for using my hands to eating
a burger. I'll never forget that. It was so odd. Well,
there you go. There's there's a Seinfeld episode in itself, or at least
a part of the Seinfeld episode in itself gotten to the point I'm flirting with
operators on the phone. I much made a deep wood one. So there's
still a hole. I don't why hole Hope telling me my dream is to
become hopeless. Well, you're hopeless. You don't care. And when you
don't care, that indifference it makes you attractive man. So hopelessness is the
key. Oh, that's that's just like Larry David to a t. Janice
says, you know she's got married by the time she's fourdish, She's gonna
have to kill him mother, and she just feels so sorry for her or
listen a bitter I could be young and bitter. And she asked the lane
to them to order a piece of cake and she's going to go throw up.
They slide into believe me a joke in here, and I was like,
as somebody's suffered through that, I was like, I laughed at it,
but I'm just like, wow, that's just like you didn't focus on
it. But I was like, shit, that's a fucking Believia joke.
Holy crap. Yeah, I mean, some feld's going for it. The
last episode was the suicide. The last episode of the week after was the
suicide, you know, and then the sneak in the eating disorder gag into
this one time wow because later later I was like, whoa, okay,
cool. I thought I appreciate it. But when out at the apartment and
Jerry's hands are filthy from the newspaper, I should give you a wipeout the
river joint, I thought the same thing when you're eating your newspaper and you're
like, what may have my hands all black? Just happened when I was
working back at the day, we were packing boxes of pop culture. You
and I. You have to shove the newspaper to the box. You get
the end of the day and you hands are all black and say oh god,
oh oh yeah. Now they are asked. Jerry asked Elaine what they
cheated about, and when she when she said, you know, the Federal
Reserve, the rainforest, I thought that was her being sarcastic. I've got
I had my notes. They're so similar like that is like a smarmy response
that Joey would give her. But then she's like, oh no, she
thinks it would be good to um, you know, shut the rainforest down
in that way. We have to have that conversation anymore. They don't get
the idea for the fix up. Actually, George was some rare form.
He just can't find anybody. I know. Cynthia too, she's really given
up George too. Yeah right, I've never fixed anybody yet. Oh me
neither. And I am not about to start with George. Well why wouldn't
you start with George? Do you think she's too good for George? I
didn't say too good. Did I say too good? Oh? You implied
it. I didn't say it. Because if you think she's too good for
George. You are dead wrong, dead wrong. Who is he? He's
George's but you don't think she's beautiful? What's with the eyebrows? You know
what your problem is, your standards are too high. Not with you,
that's because my standards are too low. I like that Jerry was backing up
George because and Elane's backing up Cynthia. It's like they've got their friends,
their friends, but they've also got their own friends. And Jerry all his
faults aside. He will support George to the end of the earth, like
he's backing it up. It's his best mate. But it's complicated, I
think because I think partly he's like, no, no, George is all
right. But I think it's also Jerry's big upping himself a little bit because
he's like, he recommend he's with George. Yeah, and any impression of
George is reflected on Jerry's what It's like, why are you friends with this
guy? Yeah? It's sometimes a bit of an old one to to work
out. So yeah, because I'm I wrote, does Jerry really think George
is that good? And I don't know. It's it's an interesting one.
Jerry then points out her eyebrows, and I was like, what's wrong with
her eyebrows? I rewound at that point and I was like, eyebrows look
perfectly normal to me. I don't understand what's wrong with the eyebrows. But
you know your standards too high? Well, I went out with you because
you because my standards are too low. That's where we get the low like
the married with children kind of response from the crowd there. M Alaina mentions
that you know her eyebrows, you know, some women pluck them all out
of their heads and draw them on just to have. Some women would kill
to have eyebrows like that, which comes in later on, which I thought
was pretty cool George's and he says that George is fast and he's strong,
and I tell you he can beat a hook, like never to beat it,
like when you went fishing with mates. Some mates can't beat a hook,
and you feel like it's kind of like when you say to a guy,
put a shelf up and they can't put a shove up. You feel
like less of a man. Oh yeah, it's like my day would take
your fish and he's like, bait the hook, and I'm like my head,
I'm like I don't really know how to do this. Let's just fucking
wing it. Let's just shove, just get this hook and to shove stuff
on. Dad's like you fucking I'm like, I'm so sorry. Well,
you never taught me. You never taught me. It's terrible. I mean
when you're at that age, or at any age, because it can still
happen, you know, when you think you're old enough to know about it's
like, man, I don't know how to do this, Can you show
me? I mean, it's the simplest thing in the world to say.
We've had this discussion before where we discussed how we can't drive manual cards.
People these days like it's like so much of a big deal. But I
went for a job, as I was saying, and they're like, can
you drive manual? Yeah? And I was like, oh, I can
learn. Like you can't drive manual. I'm like, I'm so sorry.
As we said, if it's easy to drive, order just fucking make what
what's the need for manual? I don't there, but it's one of those
things where driving a manual car. If you can't drive manual. I remember
Nicolas, Dad was like had a manual car and then he found out that
I couldn't drive these all about vehicles, and he found out I couldn't drive
a manual. I could just tell you look to me like less of a
man. I don't care, man, I don't care, buddy. But
Jerry, he thinks it's a good idea. You know, are we going
to share information like every secret? What if it worked out? Yeah?
Right, So Jerry's revealing there that he doesn't think this is gonna work.
You just think it's gonna be fun. The power are they're going to have
over each other, all the goss they could tell each other. So George,
you know, cuts of George, it's out of the question. It's
not going to happen. It's one step away from a personal ladd and prostitutes.
And then comes back out what does she look like? And this whole
conversation about describing how each other looked like. You can just tell anyone who's
gone through a fix up, this is exactly what would happen. Oh yeah,
I mean you have to become a salesman or yeah, like their agent
or something. No, No, they're really how do I sell it to
them? How do I how do I tell them the truth? Not the
real truth, but the truth and enough to get them. Well, I'm
not necessarily lying, but I'm not telling them everything just yet, really accentuating
the positive, you know, and down and down playing the negative as you
know, as honestly as you can, but also as you know, being
as good as salesman as you possibly can as well. I watch this with
Nicola and Nicola when George asked what her her body is like, Nicholas like,
I don't reckon they do this anymore TV. And I'm like, you're
probably right if you know what the thing is, that's exactly what a guy
would ask. That's any guy that says he wouldn't ask as full of shit
like you would one hundred percent ask that. I've never been part of a
fix up. I've never been set up on a date, but you like,
this is the kind of question that people would ask, what's it?
And Cynthia asked the same thing, was he look like, what's it?
Is? He fat? Is he? This? It's just we're humans.
Well, you know, it's just part of it. It's part of who
we are. We want to know if if I'm going on a date with
somebody, I want to know what they look like, do they have a
good body? If they don't have a good body, that doesn't mean I'm
not going to go in the date. I'd just like to know what I'm
getting myself involved with. No, it's it's nice to know a little bit
before you actually meet someone. You know. It's funny very surely, surely
I know this is the time to be four smartphones. Surely they've got photos
of each other. Surely Jerry has a photo of George. Somewhere they can
get to a land that she can go show Cynthia. But anyway, it
doesn't matter. But yeah, what's it? Body like? That's really very
nice and good? And I can't do the woman's smarter than me? How
because she'd be smarter than you. But it's incredible. Yet, how are
these people who initially were like, oh, I think I'm just going to
be hopeless, or you know, are generally sort of pessimistic people are being
very very picky exactly the potential they've gone from. I want someone who's hopeless
and desperate too. Well, you know, he can't be fat, and
he can't be this, and he's balding. What do him? It's like
you said you wanted this, Yeah, bald Or balding, Yeah, yeah,
bald Or boarding. That was great. He's had a lot of character
in his face. He's short, he's hockey you mean, he's fat,
He's powerful, And I like, how like what Jerry used to sell George
to Elaine, she's now using to sell to Cynthia and vice verson with you
know, they kill for eyebrows like that. So like the things that Elaine
used to sell Cynthia to Jerry, he's now using to sell to George.
And then we get the assment that they're flowing? Is the heaf flowing hair?
I like thick cascading hair. Does the hand get stuck in the hair?
What is her chickslow? Is it a pinkish hue? And Jerry's just
response to all this is just like perfect. And then the women were killed
to have our eyebrows. And I hope she's not too sweet because that can
make you throw up. She likes to throw up like Cynthia then asked if
he's ever been married. I honestly think sorry, just just just a quick
thing. I mean, the believing thing doesn't really come into it all that
much other than you know, there's the there's a line at the start,
which is order mean, Pisa going to throw up. Then it's never really
sort of mentioned again. I think it's really just a set up for that
line. That's while I was just like, they just throw this polemia gag
in there, which has no bearing on the story. It's just there.
But you know why not. You know, people go through it. It
happens. We can look back and you gotta at least acknowledge it, you
know what I mean, that's not I don't think they don't treat it like
it's a butt of a joke. No, it's just that's what that's what
she's doing. But yeah, Cynthia asked if she's married, and Aline says
he wants better weaken with a woman, and Cynthia is just, I'm too
sure about this guy. So George and Cynthia have had an incredible phone conversation.
Threw away his notes halfway through. I love that George always writes notes
for his phone conversations. Oh yeah, you know, he thinks she could
do voice over commercials. Her voice is watched mister Davis and there's mellifluous.
Yeah, and then he's like, this is our dates should go two phones
on a table done. I'm perfect on a phone conversation. And that's that's
the thing. When I used to be talking to girls over the phone.
He's so much more confident, aren't you when you're on the phone. Oh
yeah, you're like a superman. She doesn't even know what I'm naked,
right, No, no, no at all. But yeah, it's just
I thought it was really really cool. Lane walks in that she's really really
happy for him. It's gone, it's gone so great. And what does
she say about the conversation. She didn't really mention it. She didn't mention
it. And then George just give us up. Shout away is so perfect.
Then we get Cramer entering with the with the hollering from the yes and
he just talks over the top of them. He enters the cheers that he
says Bob Sacramento, he's got the gig at the condom factory and Edison and
he gave him a gross what are you gonna do with him? All?
Well, love, He tells them later to take half a back whatever,
hooker, George, I'll take one. It's possible. Plus, you know,
in my time using holloms, I don't think I've ever used like a
colored one. It's gone for the basic transparency. Yeah, your your sex
life was as vanilla as could possibly be. Correct. I think I had
well, I think that I brought the flavor. Yeah, yeah, I
don't need to gussie it up with like checking out baby. It's the Crimson
carndom, the vanilla frosting. But then we get some more stand up about
by the problem with buying a condom, which we discussed earlier, which I
just thought Joey is really good at times with his physical comedy. Just that
the nod like it's he absolutely. I thought this is one of his best
stand ups he's shown on the show so far. We're don't get Jerry in
a land on the phone. It's almost like they've got their own little relationship
happening on the side. It's like it's become a game to them. We
spoke to them yet, Yeah, she didn't call me yet either. It's
looking forty five. They both then call up, so I got off the
phones and full disclosure. You know, I'll vault it. I'll vault it.
And we've all had moments who have said that to somebody and it's like
they know and we know it's not going to be vaulted. It's going to
come out. But I remember I said to like my mate. My mate
said to me something about they're having a Baby's like, don't don't tell Nikola.
I'm all right. He knew I was going home to the town.
Nikola, you have to tell somebody. Yeah, I think when you've got
a situational that, yeah, you've got to take into account. Like,
okay, well, yeah, I'm gonna tell someone. But how many people
are they gonna tell? Yeah? How big is the circle gonna be?
How wide is it gonna rache? So you say you can just tell one
person, that's fine. All right, Look I'm gonna tell you. But
I made a path with Cynthia. We swore we were not going to tell
you in Elane, you can tell me, I'll vault it. It's in
the vault. I'm locking the vault. What we had sex? Did you
get sex? How did that happen? I don't know. I closed my
eyes and made a move your apartment. Yeah she didn't stay, No,
she left. But listen, you can't mention any of this to Elane.
Cynthia will kill me. We made a deal. Oh my god, he
was uncomfortable because it was our first time, so he felt he would perform
better if we did it in the kitchen. He says, the kitchen is
always the most sociable room in the house. And he was serious, So
how was it? How good could it be? My head was on a
hot plate. But George is annoyed dad because he's left three messages and he
feels used, cheap and violent because she hasn't called back. And Jerry's just
not impressed at all, because it's just like, hey, O, I
vouched for you. Now she's making me look bad and she's not going to
get away with this. And George like, you know what, I made
small talk with the waitress. You know, I'm a man of the people.
They'll talk to the commoners and looked at the commoners, and then Joey's
like, I'm going to call it, and George like, no, no,
don't, don't do it. Don't do it. I thought it was
Mike Rich has done a great job here. I've just being the guy between.
Like he was being such a such a good friend, such a ment
this tour. It's like the plenty of women out there for all of us.
Really, you're killing George, I'll stop it. I'll just I don't
care. I can't do that, Sun Like, I don't want to hear
another word out of either one of you and the next one of you that
opens up your mouth. That's something you're gonna have to deal with me,
you know. I know if this is about it's about a woman, isn't
it. Yeah, but yeah, this is exactly what they want to do
to you. They play one against the other. You can't let them manipulate
you like that. But I want you guys to shake that. Come on,
there are plenty of women out there for all of us. Let's go.
Yes, you see, isn't that better than fighting animosity? I mean,
you want to fight with somebody, you fight with me. Oh,
by the way, George, you know those condoms I gave you, they're
defective. Don't use them home And then the roles reverse, so like then
Jerry becomes the man in between because he says to George, why don't think
you're gonna have to use them? George gets I right. Jerry becomes a
man in the middle, and Cynthia says to Elaine that she's missed her period.
Elaine realizes, oh shit, I know why Jerry. Then we get
Jerry trying to twistle the little of a soda but he can't do it.
Those a little life of me. But I felt like a a big focus
on something so small. But I guess that's what sign Found's all about.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's another thing too, about what when Nicholas says
I can't unscrew this lid? Whatce she hands out to me. The pressure
immediately goes onto me. I'm like, if I can't open this jar,
now, might was get divorced? When they say can you open it for
me? It's like, oh shit, if I can't open it, now,
what do I do? And sometimes yeah, you've just got one that's
just stuck or just on a little bit too far and no one's getting it
off without, you know, sort of having to google tight lid on salsa,
you know, and he put it under a hot tap or something that'll
experience a little bit, but you know, if you can't just grab it
and go, yeah, you're feeling like less of a man. Elena arrives
and what's the problem with your flaky friend? I know her type and pushes
in and there getting all angry at each other. She call. He calls
it bitter and twisted. Oh, bitter might be a judgment, but I'll
tell you she's twisted. And then he's like, I'm calling you a lie
of your one and then she points in his finger you get that thinker out
of my face and breaks them all up again. Don't two of you see
that you're in love with each other and they're not? Like this is pretty
much like if this was any other sitcom, that would be the story,
wouldn't it be? Will they won't they be Ross and Rachel? You know,
and they clearly are perfect for each other. But the show wouldn't succeed
if they were together. No, absolutely not. So I mean, and
I think you've got you know, some fans of the show do any bit
of shipping, like, oh, Jerry Lane wouldn't be great if they were
together, and they can enjoy that fantasy. But yeah, I think the
show was way too smart to put them together. I were affect him.
How did you know they weren't fuck up? Mister period? Mister period?
Oh my god, I can't believe it. I'm a father. Now we're
on the date here with Before George and Jerry arrived, Cynthia is explaining how
George he stepped up to the plate. I was like, what a dude.
Oh yeah, he was like, you got my full support. Like
I'm just like, okay, it's gonna work out for these guys. But
here's the thing. I mean, you're saying, you know, I'll support
you whatever you choose. I was like, if she wants to have the
baby. If she does want to have the Baby's like no, I mean,
George has been very progressive, very sensitive. Good on him before he
knew that she wasn't pregnant. Of course, so that's where the branding points
come from. Jerry and George arrive and Joey pretends to have a limp like
that's just me. It's just it's something stupid for no reason other than try
and be funny. But they're the best seat in the house. And she
says, right next to the kitchen. I was like, hey, nice,
threw back, Let's go back there now. No, It's what I
like about that line is that at first she were saying how much she hated
having sex in the kitchen. You know, she felt comfortable, bla blah
blah. It wasn't nice. She left you went home. Now that George
has made a good impression. It's like, oh yeah, we can fucking
kitch you whenever you want you now, buddy, Like it changes a whole
out. We're going to having sex in the kitchen because now George has sort
of stepped up to the plate. Hot planet, we said, and George
then immediately eats like a pig. It kind of came across a bit much
because to me personally, I can't see George the way he is and focusing
on the little details being such a pig. I can understand that the Sunday
dripping onto his shirt and things like that, but the whole eating what the
Simpsons kind of do? I was like, I felt a bit out of
character. No, No, it really should have just been like he,
you know, took a big bite to something and just had a big smear
on the side of his face. Yeah, which has happened to me on
more than one occasion. And you know, the lovely the ways I'll look
across me and go, yeah, do do the face thing on the finger
on the face. Oh man, I'm a slub. I don't deserve this
woman. She's like, you're right, it's your leaves. Yeah. So
it was that aside, I thought this, Yeah, but I just thought
Maggie Will was fantastic in this. And let me get some stand up at
the end about the power chip from being having the fix up and you know,
God's the first person that's set up Adam and Eve and and we go
from there. So um. Yeah, so another solid episode of Seinfeld.
It's not by any means a classic one, but it's one of those things
where you're watching you just feel like you're watching real people just having a normal
conversation. That's that. But that's what's funny about it. It's not necessarily
a gag heavy. It's just what people say in real life, and that's
what makes it funny. Yeah, and I think it deserved that that Emmy
based on that. Yeah, it's a very it's a very written episode,
if you know what I mean. It's like, Yeah, they put a
lot of effort into the writing of it. So yeah, it deserved its
prize. And then yeah, look it's not up there with the best of
the best, absolutely, but it's perfectly fun episode. I had a good
half hour watching The Fix Up. Yes, all right, guys, well
that is our review of The Fix Up. I hope you enjoyed it the
next episode, so that there's a two part episode me up with the Davis,
The Boyfriend Part one and part two. Are we going to do an
episode on part one and an episode on part two? Are we going to
do it as a double whammy because it might throw off all It will throw
everything off if we can join them into one episode. So what do you
want to do the Boyfriend Part one and part two? I think that they
believe they add at the same time, so they add back to back.
So do you want to just do the boy Just do the Boyfriend as an
episode? The problem is it's going to be a long one because it's gonna
be an hour's worth of content to review. So she would do part one
and part two? Or should we review it as one single thing? I
think we should do it as one single thing. Let's do it all right,
So the next episode of Sifer will be The Boyfriend Part one and Part
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