WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:16.399 Get some facts and come back and seebe. Get some facts and come back 2 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:20.679 and Seebee. Don't throw out salaries or other things. Get some facts and 3 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:25.000 come back and Seebee. You can't handle the true now told our players you 4 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:27.760 need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats 5 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:31.399 in here looking in the mirror. But I look good. I got my 6 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:35.280 extra bands on, I got my other shoes. Be a doll. We 7 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:38.920 don't need no meals. We don't need no cats. We need more dolls. 8 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:43.880 Why you're not a detain Oh you're not. At the time, we 9 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:46.399 weren't good. There's no sense of asking me things about the game. I'm 10 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:48.920 telling you we laid an egg. So I'm not gonna break it down for 11 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:53.960 you. He sucks. He sucked. He laid an egg. That's all 12 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.079 I have to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break it 13 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:59.119 down for you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. We 14 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:07.640 have to figure it out, and we went dad. You know that first 15 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:17.040 clip from Jim Callahan, You know of Yukon head coach. People were asking 16 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.879 about his salary. He had no problem accepting it, nor should he, 17 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:27.599 because of the amount of money that he brought into the school Kirby Smart. 18 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.319 This goes back to what we were just talking about. Kirby Smart brings in 19 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:36.519 a lot of money. University of Georgia makes a lot of money. He 20 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:42.000 should bring in a lot of money to the school. He should because of 21 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:49.359 the stuff that he gets paid. I mean, you're talking about thirteen million 22 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:53.840 dollars. It's crazy. Welcome back. Final hour of the program, Exes 23 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.840 and Bros. Throughout the Great State of Michigan on the Michigan Sports Network. 24 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.799 We're on throughout the state, different places in Flint and Cadillac, where in 25 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:07.640 Grand Rapids, we're in Grayling and Gaylord, Midland, Saginaw, Bay City, 26 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:10.960 Potoski, Charlevoy, Traverse City as well. If you missed it last 27 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:16.159 night, Bruins lose in Toronto two one. William Nilander had both goals for 28 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:19.599 the Maple Leafs. It was a hell of a game, so they force 29 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.319 a game seven. Indiana blows out in Milwaukee on the hardwood one twenty to 30 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:30.840 ninety eight. The Bucks are out. Indiana will play New York because the 31 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:38.439 Knicks beat the Sixers in Philadelphia one eighteen to one fifteen. Jalen Brunson had 32 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:42.120 forty one points in twelve assists. We talked about that a little bit earlier. 33 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:47.680 Some of the lesser known people in the NBA or where they were drafted 34 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:52.520 and things of that nature. Some of the lesser known people who are becoming 35 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:54.479 bigger names, and Brunson is one of them, a former second round pick. 36 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.159 Tigers are in New York for a weekend series against the yank He's starting 37 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:07.800 tonight. It will be Resulson against Marcus Stroman. Stroman coming off his shortest 38 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:12.439 start of the season, just four innings. The Yankees lost to Baltimore yesterday 39 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:15.639 seven to two. We go to the full lines and the Meyer hotline eight 40 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.479 sixty six, eight three, eight forty eight forty three. Freddie has been 41 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:23.439 standing by. Good morning, Freddy, how are you, Bud? Good 42 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.599 morning chef. You You might have touched on my my point. I was 43 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.360 gonna make a different angle on it. But first of all, I will 44 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:37.280 tell you I I agree with the money in sports is is ridiculous. It's 45 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:42.000 not just college football, obviously, it's it's every sport. It bothers me 46 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:46.479 more in college because college was, you know, an old guy like me, 47 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:51.039 It was just so pure and fun to watch and it just seemed like, 48 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:55.800 uh he watched the games, they were they were I mean, maybe 49 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.319 I'm wrong, maybe I'm right, but it just seemed like the players play 50 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:05.080 for for the game and it was more than it was. It was about 51 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:09.719 winning. And it's just it's different now, and the money has ruined a 52 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:15.400 lot of it. So I so I'm with you on that. I I 53 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:16.720 mean, I got a fourteen year old, and I see it with I 54 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:23.199 mean, my wife hides hides how much she spends on travel volleyball, you 55 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:26.120 know, because she knows, uh, you know, how furious. And 56 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:29.519 then and then we got to center her the Grand Rapids too to play a 57 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.160 game, and we're playing in Northville. Why don't we have to go to 58 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:36.279 Grand Rapids? Why why are we making parents spend all this money? Why 59 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:40.360 can't we you know, stuff like that. Look, I mean, those 60 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:44.480 are those are slightly different things, and I can relate, and I think 61 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:46.920 it's great. I do. I think it's awesome that your daughter's in travel 62 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.879 volleyball. It can be really expensive because I've got friends who had the same 63 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:55.560 thing. My kids were in travel hockey and travel lacrosse and travel baseball, 64 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:59.720 So I get it. It's a commitment by parents because you want the best 65 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.480 for you kid at the time of their lives. Give them the opportunity to 66 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:08.600 experience things that maybe you never did, or give them the opportunity to play 67 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:13.639 athletes who are as good, if not better than they are, test them 68 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.360 against the ultimate competition. Nothing wrong with that. I think it's great. 69 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:21.600 I think it's slightly different at the collegiate level. You know. My question 70 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:26.759 to you, and it would be to myself too, why are you doing 71 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:30.759 it? Then? What's the payoff? Why don't you just have to play 72 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:33.519 quote unquote house then? And here's the reason, at least it was for 73 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:38.560 me. I think, first of all, I think travel sports in general 74 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:43.439 are watered down. I'm not saying volleyball or your your daughter's volleyball team. 75 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:46.560 I'm saying in general. I can't tell you how many people are running. 76 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:50.079 My kid plays travel baseball. He's eight years old. For crying out loud, 77 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.600 Okay, when I was eight we were playing T ball. Maybe that's 78 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.680 where some of the fundamentals are lost. But the reason you do it is 79 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:01.160 because you want your kid to participate in play against the very best, and 80 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:05.000 you want them to be able to measure themselves. And that's a good thing. 81 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:11.839 I think. Yeah, I my thing is to travel for the parents. 82 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.240 I guess that's what it is. It just it just puts a stream. 83 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:16.639 What else you're gonna do? What else you're gonna do? Okay? 84 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:20.040 You you've had your time as a kid and a young man, not that 85 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:24.519 you're old, but what what's wrong with going on? What? Watch your 86 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:29.439 kid play in Grand Rapids. That's fantastic, great city. And what else 87 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.480 are you gonna do? I don't get I don't I don't get to go 88 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:33.920 though. The wife gets to go with. Okay, Well, what are 89 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:38.639 you gonna do? Okay? What I mean? What are you gonna spend 90 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:42.560 your money on? Spend your money on your kids? Well, well I 91 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:44.839 do, but I tell you, but I'll tell you. I'll tell you 92 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:46.759 a funny story. Shop. You know, because I've been listening to you 93 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:49.240 for so long, over ten years. You usually tell this story all the 94 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:53.879 time. One of your favorite things were sitting in practice and watching your kids. 95 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:56.839 Do you realize that's one of my favorite things to do. My eight 96 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:59.920 year old, Well, she goes and plays volleyball at the church. I'm 97 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:03.120 the only parent there now, sitting on my phone I'm sitting there watching my 98 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:09.439 daughter practice, and nothing brings me more joy than watching my eight year old. 99 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.759 Well she's ten now, but watching my eight year old learn how to 100 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:17.160 play volleyball. And this year for ustrations. Yeah, yeah, I absolutely 101 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:21.079 I have nothing. I mean, I can have the worst day at work 102 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:26.560 and I generally don't works usually good for me. But when I go see 103 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.600 my ten year old now, but when she was a incredible I never I 104 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.079 never experienced anything like that in my life. It's the best day, best 105 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:38.959 day of your life. It makes up for a really tough week and all 106 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:42.199 everything goes. It's good for you. I knew you were a good dad. 107 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:44.040 I'm glad you did that. Thanks for the phone call. I have 108 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.959 a great weekend. That's what it's about. Man. There's I drive by 109 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:51.079 the other day. My wife and I were going for a walk with our 110 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:56.000 dogs in the neighborhood and I heard you could hear a little league baseball game 111 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:59.959 going on, and I said, we should go over there, let's go 112 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:05.879 watch those kids play. I miss that part. There's some really good songs 113 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.079 where you've heard the phrase you know you don't know what you got till it's 114 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:13.920 gone. You're gonna miss this. Absolutely, you'll miss it. There's nothing 115 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:20.560 like going to watch your child play. What pisses me off as much as 116 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:26.560 anything in life, is going to something like that and watching parents self indulge 117 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:35.320 rather than give their time to their child. Parents who are up in the 118 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.279 stands on their phone, because that's more important to follow social media than it 119 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.720 is to watch your child participate in an event. Parents in the stands reading 120 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:52.320 the newspaper, reading a book. Think of that for a minute. You 121 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:58.039 got an hour. You can't give a kid an hour because they notice it. 122 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.720 Don't kid yourself. If they notice it, they know what's going on. 123 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.480 I miss those days more than anything. And if you're going to get 124 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.639 your child involved in travel athletics, and I encourage you to do so, 125 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.639 and I would encourage you to go outside the state. My son missed. 126 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:26.320 He missed trips, family trips to play travel lacrosse in Maryland and places out 127 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:33.240 east. It's what he wanted. He wanted to measure himself against the best, 128 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.360 and then he was fortunate enough to play in college. I loved it. 129 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.159 I encouraged it. If that's what you want, do it. Just 130 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.960 understand this. If you're going to do something like that. If that's what 131 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:52.120 you want, make the commitment you want a financial commitment from me. The 132 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:58.720 financial and emotional commitment needs to come from you. Back with more on Exs 133 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.080 and Bros. After this. This is the Michigan Sports Now in the Den 134 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:09.039 with Dan Dickerson. Hey, Tiger's fans in a baseball season means a new 135 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:16.480 season on Michigan's favorite island destination, Mckinawe Island, Baseball Spring and mackinaw Island 136 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.080 things that return every year, reminding us what a great state we live in. 137 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.919 Shake off the winter blaus, take in a game, and plan your 138 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.799 trip to America's top summer destination, Mackinawe Island dot org. It is so 139 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:28.639 much fun to watch a young player come up from the minor leagues and make 140 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:33.080 an impact, especially one who assigned eight years ago, was once a top 141 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.279 prospect, lost that prospect status, and then regained it. Winsil Perez is 142 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.799 that player, and he's doing something every game for this Tiger's team. He's 143 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.279 arguably the Tiger's best base runner and infielder by trade, is getting better each 144 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.600 day in the outfield, and oh yeah, he can hit a little bit 145 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.159 Parra's hit his first major league home run Sunday against the Kansas City Royals, 146 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.120 and then the switch hitter had a two homer game against the Cardinals a couple 147 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.559 of days later, with a home run from each side. 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And 163 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.799 I had mentioned my son, one of my sons had gone to he had 164 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:28.879 missed a family trip to King Cod because he'd rather have gone to a couple 165 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:37.720 of his travel across team tournaments out east, uh to measure themselves against some 166 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:43.799 of the best who play the sport, some massive tournaments that saw college coaches 167 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:50.240 come from all over the country. We did go to some of the tournament, 168 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.919 but you know, we're still as a family. You're gonna you're gonna 169 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.240 take your family vacation. It was just a choice of his. We didn't 170 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:03.759 necessarily say, hey, listen, you've got to do one or the other. 171 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.399 He chose to do it and it did pay off for him, but 172 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:11.039 we were used to that. I do believe, and again this is not 173 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.559 on any one particular sport or age group or area, but I do believe 174 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:24.960 we have watered down travel athletics. I think you can find a travel team 175 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:30.360 in just about every city in any state you live in, and to me, 176 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:33.919 travel everybody has different definitions, I suppose, but to me, travel 177 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.440 is a little bit more than just going in the state of Michigan, for 178 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:43.320 example. I mean go outside the state, go places. My oldest boy 179 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:48.679 played on a travel baseball team. There were people going to Texas and Arizona 180 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:54.000 and Colorado for tournaments. I'm like, wow, Freddie's right. The amount 181 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:58.720 of money you could spend is incredible. I think a guy once told me, 182 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:05.240 I want to make sure I get the number right. I think with 183 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:16.720 sixteen thousand dollars he spent on some travel baseball for one summer, it's over 184 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:22.399 sixteen thousand dollars. That's a hefty sum. That's a really hefty sum. 185 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:31.279 Speaking of travel, Jack Nicholas has traveled all over the world. As the 186 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:35.399 greatest golfer of all time. I believe he's the greatest golfer of all time. 187 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.440 I suppose that's up for debate. Here's what we do know. Jack 188 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:45.600 Nicholas is the greatest champion. He's won more championships, more majors than anybody 189 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:52.200 else eighteen and he has finished second more than anybody else. Whether it's he 190 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:58.720 or Tiger Woods is not what the topic is about. But Jack Nicholas, 191 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:05.399 who doesn't play golf really that much anymore because of injuries and his age and 192 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:09.879 so on and so forth. He's eighty four, all right, We all 193 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.720 know that. It wasn't long ago when the Masters concluded and Scottie Scheffler won 194 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:22.600 his second Green jacket in three years. Well, according to reports, Jack 195 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:28.960 Nicholas stuck around Augusta to play the course three times. He did a really 196 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:37.159 nice job as a guest analyst on Golf Network when they were asking him about 197 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.360 how would you play certain shots? He knows that course so well. It's 198 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:48.399 amazing. He knows the course so well. He was able to describe just 199 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:54.080 about every single shot you need, where you want to be on every single 200 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:58.759 hole. It's amazing, simply amazing. When I watched him do an interview 201 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:03.919 on the Golf Channel for an extended period of time, but he stuck around 202 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:12.519 Augusta to play and he played it three times, three times. Now. 203 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:17.799 This is he said this. He says, they don't have forward teams at 204 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:23.840 Augusta. It's hard for me to play long courses. I can't play sixty 205 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:29.240 four hundred yards because on a good day, I'm hitting the ball one hundred 206 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:37.039 and ninety yards now. Scotty Scheffler won the tournament. Everybody knows that his 207 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:41.039 final score was eleven under par. He shot sixty six. He shot seventy 208 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:47.639 two, seventy one, sixty eight. Parer is seventy two. The yardage 209 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:53.679 is seven thousand, five hundred and fifty five yards at Augusta. That's long. 210 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:00.240 I don't know how many of you guys out there and you lady out 211 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:04.039 there play golf. I love the sport, absolutely love it. I could 212 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:10.079 play it every day. I don't hit it very far. I played yesterday 213 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:14.759 with two of my sons, had an absolute blast. I think the course 214 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:21.119 was maybe sixty five hundred yards. I played well on the front. We 215 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:25.359 played for the Blues. Okay, I'm probably better off playing from the whites. 216 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:27.759 We played for the Blues. I played really well on the front shot 217 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:33.160 of forty three. Feel pretty good about that, right. My goal is 218 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:37.599 to break ninety. Get that done. I feel good, okay. Jack 219 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:45.279 Nicholas is eighty four playing arguably the most prestigious golf course in the country, 220 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:53.279 maybe the world. At age eighty four, he shot an eighty eight, 221 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:07.160 a ninety and a ninety one. Now, before you sit there and say, 222 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.799 what's so great about that, he hasn't played that course since two thousand 223 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.200 and five. Don't give me this honorary starter stuff. All right, he 224 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.240 hasn't played the course since two thousand and five. I mean he's played in 225 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:22.400 the par three contest, I guess, but he finished doing that in twenty 226 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:30.759 twenty two. So he hasn't played the course since two thousand and five. 227 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.160 He's eighty four years old. And on top of that, think of this, 228 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:41.680 even at his eight how many times is he playing three rounds of eighteen 229 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:47.079 in as many days you and your buddies go on golf trips in the summertime, 230 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.519 you're playing, you know, maybe thirty six holes one day. Then 231 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:57.319 you have a rough Friday night. I'm speaking from experience here. You have 232 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:03.799 a rough Friday night, you play eighteen the next day, and then maybe 233 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.119 you play eighteen on the getaway day unless you had another rough night Saturday. 234 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:18.640 And again speaking from some experience, yeah, it's it's really hard. And 235 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:26.359 yet at age eighty four, he goes out there and puts together a total 236 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:34.880 three rounds of two sixty nine the worst score at Augusta This past year, 237 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:40.960 twenty twenty four, there were a number of scores in the eighties. The 238 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:48.119 worst score came from Emiliano Grillo. He shot in eighty three in round two. 239 00:19:49.519 --> 00:20:00.880 He's thirty one years old. Jack Nicholas is fifty three years older than 240 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:08.799 Emiliano Grillo, and Grillo beat him by five strokes on his worst day and 241 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:17.240 Jack Nicholas's best. That is a wide gap in age, but not in 242 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:26.920 playing that course. Muscle memory to me, that's that's a that's a muscle 243 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:32.599 memory type situation. Amazing his body. I mean, he just wouldn't you 244 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:38.039 love to know if he has ever duffed one? Would you love to know 245 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:45.559 if he's ever topped one off the tee? There's no way that could have 246 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:52.640 happened recently. What an amazing story. I find that fascinating. Our phone 247 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.480 number on the Meyer hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. 248 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:03.160 You can text the program Sports Radio two twenty one thousand as well. 249 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:07.440 There's still plenty to get to and I want to get to it. Some 250 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:15.359 NFL drafts steals a really cool story about a hockey player that I want to 251 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:19.599 make sure we dive into as well, and a cool moment from the NFL 252 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:25.319 Draft. 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Party Hard Rockharder The Offspring 277 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.440 Simple Plan in Hubas Dang, July twenty sixth, showtime seven pm. Details 278 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:55.759 at Soaring Eaglecasino dot Com. Certain athletes are a different heart day I think 279 00:23:55.799 --> 00:24:00.279 so. It doesn't make him the most popular, but I do belie Leave 280 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:07.720 it makes them different. There are certain sports I really love, probably sports 281 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:14.279 that you don't necessarily love as much, because I like people. I like 282 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.640 the toughness of them. It's one of the reasons I've always said, I 283 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:22.640 don't get why more people don't gravitate in this country. You don't gravitate toward 284 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:29.839 the sport of lacrosse. It has everything you want. It has the toughness 285 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:36.880 of hockey. It has the high scoring more than hockey. The high scoring 286 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:41.440 if you will, of well, it's not one hundred and twelve points like 287 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.680 in basketball, but I mean there's there's scoring. There's a lot of scoring 288 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.920 and a lot of scoring chances. Sure as hell isn't soccer, I'm telling 289 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:53.480 you right now. And then it has the physicality of football, where guys 290 00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:59.400 are just you should see the amount of I mean, the stick wax on 291 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:06.359 people's arm, the checks, the shoulder checks, the body slams. You 292 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:11.359 got to be a tough hombree to play it. Hockey. Same thing. 293 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.880 Love football, love hockey, love lacrosse. It's not that I don't love 294 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.880 the other sports, because I do. I marvel at the athleticism in basketball. 295 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:25.720 I've always loved baseball, but I've really grown an appreciation and I've always 296 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:27.039 loved football, played it ever since I was a little kid, but I've 297 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:33.920 really grown for the appreciation of hockey lacrosse particularly anyway, when you think of 298 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.480 hockey, I think a lot of people do think of the toughness. Recently, 299 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:44.759 an ESPN program, the Pat McAfee Show, had Matthew could Chuck on 300 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:51.759 he of the Florida Panthers after the eliminated Tampa and he said, the host 301 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:57.480 said, this guy's one of the toughest dudes ever. Last year saw him 302 00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:06.359 literally with a broken stern a broken femur which I don't recall that, a 303 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:12.559 broken hand, Yeah, beat up shoulders, fractured skull. Taped him up, 304 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:18.680 went out on the ice, pushed his way through and played. Why 305 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:27.880 is hockey so different and why can they do that? Why do they feel 306 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:41.200 it's necessary playing through a fractured sternum? Remember what Nick Lidstrom did back in 307 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:51.799 two thousand and nine, what Mark Stone did this year from Las Vegas. 308 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.079 It's a different mindset. Man, it's a different feel, it's a different 309 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:08.279 expectation, obligation. Where does it stem from. Who knows? Everybody's different, 310 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:12.519 right. It's not to say that other players and other sports aren't tough 311 00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:19.839 or as tough or tougher or more dedicated, but there is something about being 312 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.960 raised as a hockey player. Now maybe things are changing a little bit. 313 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:29.680 I don't know, because a friend of mine recently told me he was disgusted 314 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.160 when he took his little one into a rink and he saw parents carrying their 315 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:41.599 kids' bags. So maybe it's a little bit of a softness from that standpoint. 316 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.839 We never did that with our kids. Our kids had to carry their 317 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:48.920 own bag. Son. My sons could fit inside their hockey bags. They 318 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:52.240 were just little kids when they were four or five years old. They could 319 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.880 fit inside the hockey bag, crawl in there. If you take all their 320 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.319 pads out, they could crawl in there. We could zip it up and 321 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:07.119 carry them off. But they carried those bags into the rink every single practice, 322 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.160 in every single game, two sticks in one hand, bag over the 323 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:21.119 shoulder, the other, leaning forward like they were running downhill and going into 324 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:26.960 the arena. That's what I love most about it. And I sure hope 325 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:33.759 parents aren't replacing that. I think it's an important part of the sport, 326 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.559 I really do. I hope you're not saying, you know what, six 327 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.559 am is too early for me, so I'm not going to get up and 328 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:47.400 take my kid to practice. No, man, it's a great way to 329 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:52.920 start the day. I think you can get up for six am t time, 330 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:57.200 couldn't you? Or at six am tailgate at U of M for a 331 00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:02.519 Neon game. You can make a flight at six am, can't you. 332 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:10.079 That's kind of in my mindset when I read the article. It kind of 333 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:14.319 took me back a little bit to those types of days because Matthew Kuchuk and 334 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:21.480 others have mentioned the same thing, speaking of toughness. It's one of the 335 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:27.279 reasons I love the Lions draft pick of Terry on Arnold. It would be 336 00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:36.559 interesting to know how many teams, scouts, assistant general managers, general managers, 337 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:45.240 whatever call the coaches of some of the players they're considering drafting. Nick 338 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:55.079 Saban said something pretty interesting draft night. It's not many teams that call him. 339 00:29:55.160 --> 00:30:00.839 There's a documentary called the Art of Coaching. It kind of put on 340 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:07.920 display the bond between Bill Belichick and Nick Saban, and Saban had kind of 341 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:19.079 gone off rather showing some frustration and being upset on how NFL teams evaluate talent, 342 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.880 and he said this. He said, one thing that you do referring 343 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.240 to the NFL that a lot of NFL guys don't do. And he was 344 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.039 referring to Bill Belichick here. He said, one thing that you do that 345 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.400 a lot of NFL guys don't do. I don't know if you've ever picked 346 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:41.400 one of your guys, if you've before talking to me. In other words, 347 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:47.319 I'm thinking about drafting this guy who played for you at Alabama. Tell 348 00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:55.200 me what you think of him. Doing your homework, Saban said, there's 349 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:56.599 a few other guys in the league that do that, but not many. 350 00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:02.960 Then there's a number of teams, thirty tams, he said, that I 351 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.039 never hear from. And they picked somebody and I think you picked that guy, 352 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.759 and after a while they'll say, well, we didn't know this. 353 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.759 Well, that's because you didn't make a phone call. It sure seems like 354 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:22.440 the Lions have called him on more than one occasion. When you're drafting guys 355 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:30.240 from Alabama who played for Nick Saban, it seems like Brad Holmes and his 356 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:37.200 staff have at least touched base there to see what kind of player is Brian 357 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:45.240 Branch, Jamison Williams, Terry On Arnold. First of all, I love 358 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:51.000 that about Brad Holmes and his staff. That's number one. Number two, 359 00:31:51.880 --> 00:32:00.720 I love the fact that Saban was a tough as nails coach. Not every 360 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:09.440 coach has to be tough, grinded out tough love okay with every single player 361 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:15.680 because players are different, different players I like in coaching to being a father 362 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:22.880 all the time or being a parent. Just because you have four children doesn't 363 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:28.400 mean that you parent them all the same. The rules can be the same, 364 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.599 This is my belief. Now, the rules can be the same doesn't 365 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.480 mean that you go about it exactly the same with every single one of them, 366 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.599 because not all of them. Not every person responds to things. I 367 00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:45.640 mean you know this. You have a working environment, You're probably respond to 368 00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:54.240 certain type of criticism or critiques. Let's do critiques different than others. Now, 369 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.200 I don't want to be surrounded by a bunch of people who constantly have 370 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:04.960 to be patted on the butt or pat it on the back. And I 371 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.279 sure don't want to be around people who feel like you can never do anything 372 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:15.680 right either. But the belief is that Nick Saban is that tough love guy. 373 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:23.680 So that's awesome. He's a tough love guy. And Terry On Arnold 374 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:31.519 responds. Jamiir Gibbs has responded. Branch has responded. Williams has responded, 375 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.039 you would expect the same from this guy who, at one point during his 376 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:45.559 career was benched and rather than crawling away, hiding in a corner, sucking 377 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:52.559 a thumb, threatening to transfer, giving up, down playing everything that took 378 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.240 place, bad mouthing the guy who took his job, what did he do? 379 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.119 He was there to be supportive, and he was there to try and 380 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:10.840 get better and regain the position. Professional example, a couple nights ago, 381 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.360 Matt Verlin gets pinched hit four. He's playing his hometown team, Saint Louis, 382 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:21.000 He's got friends and family in the stands. He's disappointed. Carrie Carpenter 383 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.599 comes in, gets a sacrifice, fly gets the job done, first player 384 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.719 out of the dugout, first player at the top steps of the dugout to 385 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:35.519 congratulate Carpenter for a job well done. With Matt Verlin, those are the 386 00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.920 guys you want on your team. We all want stars, we all want 387 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:45.519 guys who can produce, but we want guys who understand the process, understand 388 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.719 what it takes to be better, are willing to sacrifice to get better, 389 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:55.559 and are willing to listen to the hard coaching of a proven coach to get 390 00:34:55.599 --> 00:35:02.719 better. That to me, makes it a really good pick. If you 391 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:09.639 have to constantly massage an ego, constantly massage feelings on the football field, 392 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:15.199 you're in trouble. With over one hundred guys on the field. For Alabama, 393 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:20.760 that's impossible. With eighty or fifty four guys on the field for the 394 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:27.440 Lions, it's challenging too. You have to take you can't dedicate it to 395 00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:32.679 one guy all the time. So I love that and it makes me happy 396 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:39.639 and even solidify more when you read stories like this, solidify more of the 397 00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:46.800 reasons why Detroit may have drafted him. Willing to accept hard coaching. That's 398 00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:53.519 awesome. I would hope that's the way it is in a lot of different 399 00:35:53.599 --> 00:36:01.760 moments for athletes or for people in general. Did you see the video. 400 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:08.920 It's a really good I think people what they want out of sports because every 401 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:14.079 game's on TV, and because so many interviews are done with players in front 402 00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:20.480 office personnel, and you get video and audio clips and various social media sites 403 00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:25.800 and online. It's really hard to perhaps keep people's attention for an extended period 404 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:32.559 of time on one thing. But what the Eagles did recently was brilliant, 405 00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.079 and I think the Lions do it. I'm sure every team does it. 406 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.800 They put a camera and a microphone on people, just to give you an 407 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:45.800 idea of what the process is all about. What's it like being in the 408 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:52.239 draft room. Well, we're going to show you. The Eagles did that. 409 00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:59.599 They put a camera and they had their general manager miked up how he 410 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:07.000 rose, and they in the second round, they really wanted Iowa corner Cooper 411 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:12.639 dejen. They were trying to figure out a way to trade up. Now 412 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:16.320 they had already selected Quinnon Mitchell in the first round, the kid out of 413 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:22.559 Toledo, but they wanted another defensive back. So here's what they did. 414 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:27.599 They're planning to trade up to the eighth pick of the second round, number 415 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.280 forty. Remember I told you the other day, general managers, front office 416 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:36.360 personnel do not use rounds. They use picks overall picks. And if you 417 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:43.800 listen to the video, of this behind the scenes Philadelphia Eagles draft room, 418 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:50.000 you'll notice the same thing Roseman. That's all he does. He just says, 419 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.599 taking pick this, this, this, for this, this and this. 420 00:37:53.519 --> 00:38:00.199 He was hoping that Degene would fall. The Rams had just trade it 421 00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.639 up to number thirty nine, so he thought for sure that the Rams were 422 00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.000 going to take him. And he was a little disappointed, like, ah, 423 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:13.199 that's it. They didn't take him. They took Florida State defensive tackle 424 00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:22.920 Braden Fisk instead, former Western Michigan guy who transferred to Florida State. And 425 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:30.480 upon hearing this, he pumped his fist, screamed how much jubilation he had, 426 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.519 hugged his owner made the pick, and then quickly got him on the 427 00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:42.719 phone. That full access video the team has a YouTube account. That full 428 00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:47.519 access video is there for anyone to see. And he brought up a great 429 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.519 point following that. Wearing the microphone, he says, you don't know how 430 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:58.239 everyone else sees things. We know how we see things, and you get 431 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.920 into your own head where you go every but he's got to see it the 432 00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:07.440 same way. It doesn't work out that way. So the Eagle secondary might 433 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:14.039 be the best in football. You got Queen Men, Mitchell, you got 434 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:22.800 Cooper Dejeen, You have Darius Slay and CJ. Gardner. Johnson Dejeene can 435 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:30.159 play safety your corner. It goes to show you you and I have different 436 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:36.480 opinions on players. Doesn't mean that one person is always right or wrong. 437 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:43.280 But if you and I are going to have different opinions, you don't think 438 00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.440 front office personnel are going to have different opinions, especially with all their scouts 439 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:52.519 watching different people. I read an article yesterday where people thought Detroit showed some 440 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:59.360 arrogance by drafting Rakestraw on the second round. My immediate thought was, are 441 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:05.639 you kidding me? Arrogance? I think it's brilliant. It's where they had 442 00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.880 him on their board. They actually had him higher according to Brad Holmes, 443 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:20.280 and knowing that this team is only going to have one cornerback under contract after 444 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:27.760 this year before the draft, tells you even more about the need for that 445 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.119 situation and take the need out of it. It's just where they had him 446 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.880 graded, which is the first and foremost most important thing as far as I'm 447 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:42.599 concerned. They saw it in a different way. Let's see if the lines 448 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.079 can prove them wrong. Let's see if Rakestraw can prove them wrong. I 449 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:53.039 thought it was fantastic. It's another example of what makes sports so great. 450 00:40:53.280 --> 00:41:01.559 I think it's just how people feel differently about different things when it comes to 451 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:07.079 the draft specifically. But I loved the comment from Nick Saban and I thought 452 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:13.840 it just kind of went back to just how important it was. You know, 453 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:20.280 we see Detroit moving up five spots for Dallas to get terry On Arnold 454 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.159 and thinking to ourselves, Oh, they traded up for a need. They 455 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:28.639 traded up for the player, not for the need. They traded up for 456 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.679 the player. They didn't trade up for the pick. They traded for the 457 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:37.360 player. That's the most important thing to remember moving forward in any draft, 458 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:42.400 I hope with any general manager, picks are great. Oh they gave up 459 00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:45.400 a couple of thirds to get this guy. You got the player you wanted. 460 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:52.400 That was most important, really important. 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