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You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience
podcast. Hello in the chat Tonay,

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baby, that's what I'm gonna do. Pick somebody out because you fed me

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that thing that we loaded up.
Bid it work today? I was?

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I was? But anyway, welcome
back. Yeah, you're gonna play it

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play. No, I'm not God. You can do your things. I

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don't want to. Welcome back to
the Getting Salty Spears podcast. It's the

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one that truly cross my heart.
Hope to die. Stick a picky in

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my eye brings the firehouse kitchen table
to you. There might be other guys

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that say it. I'm just saying
it might be, they might not be.

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I don't know, but there really
is only one. You know.

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Did you ever get a callback from
that? I did? We were funny,

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now, all right? I told
the guy I loved him. Don't

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take it personal. You know,
I'm a dick and I'm gonna say whatever

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I'm gonna say. So we made
up. We do really like him.

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I do like the guy a lot. Yeah, but anyway, there is

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only one. Like there's only one
Elvis Presley, right, I mean,

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there's only one Beatles. You gotta
be if you're the king, the King,

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right, and there's only one podcast
that brings the firehouse kitchen table to

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you. That's what I'm gonna say
about that. That's all you got.

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Welcome back, Roof, Thank you, buddy. You didn't kill anything,

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but your friend did. My friend
got a nice one. I got a

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six point. You passed on it, six six point. What are you

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gonna do with that? Bro?
This point points? There was six points

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on the picture, all right,
there was six points seven points. I

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don't know like Roof at this point
in his career. Bro, he's like

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six point send you send your father
backyard, Bro, go get your I

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always heard it work today. What
now he's back on his game? Last

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week he was taking That's what he
was, bro. But what did you

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see? A couple of jumbles and
that was it. I couldn't concentrate,

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dude, I don't know what the
fun was going on. He wasn't concentrated.

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I had to ask for the sound
effects, and then when I asked,

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he still wasn't doing it. I'm
like, well, she was a

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couple of money and I couldn't get
too quick enough to remember when you called

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him. I want to have him
right there. We were beyond the next

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topic, he py, Yeah,
exactly, So I couldn't play because you

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moved along too quick, So I
can't. Yeah, well he's got ten

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ft taller. I think I think
that he was. He's not afraid because

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lou wasn't there. He knows Louise. He's got to slap making me laugh.

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Yeah, here we go. That's
why he's on his game tonight.

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But I can't get it again.
I won't. We played that quick.

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I heard it work today. I
don't know. Well, definitely, all

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right, so we got our man
finally standing man live a hand. Let

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me just say this. Me and
Louis have said this in the past,

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so I'm gonna say it again.
Well, we were in the squad working

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with the has Matt. We thought
we were the fucking cat's pajamas bro like

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right, so we would look at
guys pajamas on the job. Yeah,

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we had five years that we look
at guys like fucking hazmat what a fucking

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loser, while guys like Chief Fanning, who were in twenty six truck I

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d back, Yeah, who was
in two seventeen engine, three point thirty

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two engine you know, made a
grab and rescue too. Yeah, we

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thought we were it. Meanwhile,
you have no idea what you're staring across,

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you know, at when you walk
into a place. So it's best

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to keep your stupid thoughts to yourself. You know what's going on? Was

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it? Hey, you're talking to
my guy all wrong? It's wrong again?

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Did you imagine this guy? Bro? Like you've been to places we

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come in, we think, who
the fuck? We look at these little

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snot nose green. There's no doubt
we have to ask, no doubt thinking

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like you little wine and bitches.
There was no doubt that he had the

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word douche bag, like right here, you know, guy's a douche,

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douche guy's a Karen, Karen?
Yeah, what's anyway? What's really quick?

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What's the mail equivalent to when you
call it? Karen? It's a

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guy? What do they call a
guy? I don't know. Does anybody

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know what it is? Somebody in
the church probably gonna know. I'm sure

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I'll give you a quick story.
So I'm pulling out a fucking stopping shop

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the other day and some old lady, she's got to be my mother's age

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eighty five. She comes out,
but there's a guy coming and he's probably

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our age, maybe a little older. Now, this motherfucker pulls right up

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and instead of fucking there's plenty of
room to go round, of course,

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buck up, buck up. He
gets out, screaming at the old lady.

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Back up. She's like, why
should you go round? Back up?

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He looks at me like like I'm
gonna agree with him right after he's

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berating some old brood, So she
finally backs up. I thought she was

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gonna kill somebody. Backing up in
the middle of a park a lot.

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He pulls out. I pull out
and like the next four lights, I'm

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like, so, I fucking say
something to this guy. Should just mind

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my own fucking business. You can't, you can't, I really can't.

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I get to the fourth light.
Now I'm not only that, I'm never

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so I'm with him, bro right. They called him Kevin, whis patty

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nice till he said I called the
guy pull up to him and I go

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to him. Are you happy with
yourself? Now? Do you feel like

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a you feel better about yourself?
That's my favorite life. He's like,

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well yeah. I pulled him back
up, like you have plenty of rule

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to go around up and he called
me something I didn't know what I had

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to be the maybe Kevin right,
I said, well, you're a fucking

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dick man cursing so much. We're
on a rating some all broad. If

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you feel good about yourself, go
ahead. It was definitely a time.

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Was the Italian. I couldn't tell
what he was. He was mad,

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I can tell you that. So
he must have been Italian. Must have

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been like lou light switch flip flew. And that was it. You come

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again ww dot they saved and why
dot Com? Excellent, excellent. I

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want to see to nitwith who actually
made it into the book that really have

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no business being in the book.
Come see me and Louis. I don't

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know if whole he's going. I'm
going, uh, pull out up guns.

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We'll be signing the books along with
everybody. I don't know, everybody

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but the guys in the book all
going out to the Joey d They Saved

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New York book signing. We greet
some of the firefighters featured in Dan Potter's

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newly released Highlighting the corn Fire Department. Corn Fire Department, November fourth to

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twenty three at seven p m.
Come out and see. Tickets are twenty

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dollars. It's food and drinks and
raffles. Can't go wrong. Coops will

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not be drinking. I will not. I'll be with my wife. After

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my wife is coming. I think
my little guys are coming to I don't

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know. So that's it. Let's
get him in here. Rough do you

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think? Are you ready? Yeah? I'm ready. You ready to go.

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I'm ready coming to the stage.
Lieutenants standing man right back, Blue?

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What's up, little boy? Look, you know us, way back

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we were thatt you could say it
douchebags. Right, we came in the

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firehouse, you know, like our
little brothers, annoying everybody in the has

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meat. Yeah, we'll talk about
what that. The whole dynamic was like

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when we came in later on.
But before we do, let's get patriotic.

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Before I forget it. We rush
on. Okay, here we go.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America and to

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the Republic, for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with

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liberty and justice for all. A
more quick thing. God's pull up that

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thing. What it's like at Louis
House and Halloween. This came from my

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boy Bill only one a gubba ghoule
per child. That's not bad. I

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can't take credit for them. I'm
all all right. Let's get into lieutenant's

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career. Lou take us back way
back. Tell us where you grew up,

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what got you into the fire service? A little about the early life

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of Lieutenant's Dead. Right back,
let's see. Grew up in East Meadow

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of Long Island. Uh, two
brothers, two sisters, my father.

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What's that? Where are you?
Well, I'm a twin. Actually I

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didn't know that. That's twins.
Things you find out on this show.

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And myself and Michael, my brother
Michael were born, my brother Stephen,

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who was a county prower, county
fireman. And my sister. Oh forgot

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my sister Carol, I said,
and uh a Marie. So five of

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us, Yeah, not bad East
Medal. My father was a bricklayer.

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My whole family were bricklayers or probably
carpenters. You know, it's work when

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I did every day I was off
of work bricklaying with my uncle. Is

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that right? Uh? Well,
even we grew up, we were to

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go, get to make the cement, get the bricks. You know,

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that's what you had to do.
It's hard work, man, It's the

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good, honest day's work bricklayer.
We learned a lot. Hey, I

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was able to build, you know, help build my house really so yeah,

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well I did all the footings.
We did a bunch of extensions,

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some footings. You were like,
what else can I do because this ain't

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working for me. For the next
one, I figure, let me be

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a fireman. You know what made
you want to be a fireman? You

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have any friends or you know what? My father was a volunteer fireman along

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with my uncle probably three uncles,
uh in North Belmore. One was East

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Meadow but close by North North Belmore. And uh but I never joined the

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volleys because by time college came around, I moved. We moved to Florida,

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Pompao Beach, Florida. Whole family, Yeah, the whole family moved.

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Yeah. But uh we had a
nice big house in the in the

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East Meadow and my father had built
the day. Bro, you sent me

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that one, right, No you
didn't. Now you're on the game,

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thank you. And uh you know
so, Uh I really I took actually

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test went to college for criminal justice, and uh, I didn't even think

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about being a fireman. And UH
did well on a couple of tests.

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Court offices didn't make it with the
state troopers. My good friend made it

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with the state troopers, so he
did well. But uh, court offices

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came up. I didn't take it
because I visited them. I just took

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the physical for the fire Department because
my uncle, my uncle Angelo from one

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twenty four said you got to just
take the test. You know, we

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got to picture him, don't we
see? It's yeah here he is there.

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It is no a volunteer fireman North
Belmore. Oh so he knows Heavy

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d and those guys who were who's
at cat Murphy? Yeah? Sure,

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good friends with Dennis. Yeah so
he was he was he there with Patty

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Lee. Yes. I said,
you got to get him on the show.

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Bro that on twenty four group was
great, great fires And he looks

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like, h what's his name?
Bro from U that's another Gonzo Gonzo looks

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like yeah, yeah yeah, now's
one lesson for old time steak. Yeah

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maybe yeah. So you know,
I I went down to Florida, figured

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I'd become a cop or something,
but came back up and did well on

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the on the physical. Uh,
it was a hot tant. I say

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that all the time. That was
a real hard test. That was lucky.

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I was still young, you know, working out, you know,

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running all the time. Just got
done playing some of lacrosse down in Florida

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a little bit, you know.
Uh, they didn't really have big leagues

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down there, but we had club
club sports down there, you know then,

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right, and so we're still in
shape, you know, did some

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running. But U now, were
you still in school when you moved to

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Florida in high school? I started
college in seventy college in Florida. I

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tried Miami Dade. I didn't really
like it, so I moved back up

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to Popito Beach and went to Broward
Community College. All right, yeah,

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so then I then I just came
back up moved in with my grandparents in

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East Meadow, Italian grandparents. How
good was that? Right? I did

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my laundry, she cooked for me, grandma, and that it was great,

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you know, in the pasta on
Sundays. I love them. Sure,

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that was good time. So what
was that your mom's your mother's That

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was my mother's side. Yeah,
Agelo's actually uncle Angelo's mother and father.

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What was the last name, Catalano? Oh? Yeah, So you go

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up and stay with them. You
take the FD test because Angelo I did

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well. I would have done better
except I missed the last page on the

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test. I missed like three questions. Hasn't missed them altogether. He just

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didn't miss them all together. I
didn't turn over to you, didn't turn

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the last page. So, but
my list number was pretty good. I

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think I got hearted. You know, what was it like eighteen twenty four,

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So I did pretty well. I
magine if I got the three questions

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right, have been up there.
But that's my I was always a like

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the seventies type of guy. You
know, as long as I passed,

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that's all I cared about. Same
certificate. You still get on that right

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exactly? You know, well in
this case, Yeah, tried that on

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me when he was going to Saint
John's. You goes C's and D still

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get degrees and like not in Saint
John's they don't pro so get your ass

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over, get your ass over the
community college, bro season D still get

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the greed. That's what we don't. Yeah, not on my dive.

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They don't pro as as you're hitting
them with the two by four. But

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you go. You gotta see the
old star listening in probably school here.

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Rough you're a great prob school bunch
of guys. You know. January tenth,

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we got swim in I think on
the eighth, and we reported in

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on the tenth. January eighty one. Wow, look at these guys.

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You got Beatles was in this picture
the guys. You don't have to give

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them credit to Danny Murph. I
think for the picture, Danny Murphy was

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in his class in the middle of
the first row. I see him,

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Holy, look at him, he's
a goliath. How about Mike Espo Mike

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Guess is the second from the Yeah, I look at that right. Yes,

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you had Rotten Lacacus Stackpole in here
too, right. Who's that Stackpole

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you had, yeah, Timmy Stackpole, Espositos, Jack Ome, Oh,

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a bunch of guys. Wow.
Yeah, it was good class. You

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had to who's who in your class? Broke class? What is that one

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hundred guys? Yeah, it wasn't
that many. Yeah, because there wasn't

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a night class. It was just
a single, you know, morning class.

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Maybe a hundred. Who's the Mama
Luke onstage swearing in? That's uh?

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Is that Hines? Commissioner Hines?
Oh is it? Yeah? Joe

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Hines? Yeah all right, yeah. Yeah. So well it was very

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cold over there when we were there
in January and February. Boy, very

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cold, like zero degrees ten degrees
coming over the bridge. But we got

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through it, through it and uh, how many weeks back? How many

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weeks was it back then? I
think it was five six weeks, but

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we also had to stay in there. At the last week, they told

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us we had to stay an extra
week because we had to learn fire prevention

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and then go out and do fire
prevention. So we didn't go right to

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the companies. Yeah, yeah,
So so who would have thunk what would

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have happened later on in your career, right, yeah, yeah, Well

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it catches up to me again.
You get promoted though, yeah, you

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get promoted. Promoted. Ry was
it was frozen in February when it was

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three degrees. We had a couple
of those nights, you know. So

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you find out you go into Engine
Company nine to ohero. Huh where is

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ninety engine? I had no idea
where the Bronx was except for the Bronx

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Zoo, And luckily enough, it
was right around the corner from the Bronx

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Zou. Is it the one that's
right around the corner from the Yeah,

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the that was the at the time. It was all Italian over there and

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on White Plains Road and Morris Park
Avenue nineteen forty one. Very it was

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a slow house at the time.
It was the ninth Division. The deputies

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were upstairs on the third floor,
very big house. Yeah right, you

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know, bochi bowl courts around the
corner. A lot of battalions over there,

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but we'll stick ball back in the
Yeah, none of the stickballs.

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It was a nice show over there. Good, it was good, good

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being. Yeah. But when I
got there, the chief said, Sam,

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you got to get out of here. We had who was it,

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Mike Meyer's dad, uh huh McLachlan, a chief McLachlan, a chief Cleary,

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you know, good old chiefs.
But they got me upstairs and they

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said, you're gonna do your time
here, and uh, within a year,

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you're gonna get out of here.
I said, Chief, I was

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supposed to go to two seventeen,
but they said, shut up, don't

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tell anybody. I can't say that, And uh, what us about that

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story I was supposed to go to. Supposedly I had a contract with h

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with my uncle through Jimmy Boyle.
Jimmy Boyle you know, was big then

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back then. But uh, how
did it work out? I guess you

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could say Tony var really I know, yeah he was on the show.

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Yeah, No, Tony's a good
man to seventeen guy. He left I

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think sixty seven. Uh, engine
at the time when I was supposed to

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get a sign and uh, but
he didn't. Something happened with the captain.

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So Tony got the points. Tony
went there and I did it.

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So they sent me to ninety engine. They said, Tony, you screwed

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me before I knew you. They
want to drive the drive. But it

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worked out pretty good. You know, I had a good time there.

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Let me ask you question, how
do they know that you need to get

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out of it like you were just
like I guess they knew, they knew

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it was slow, they knew,
you know, it was a slower area.

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It was just yeah, but how
do they know it in you?

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Like you're always kicking the tools always. I don't know. Maybe they I

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don't know, speak it out.
Yeah, you know, you know the

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guys just the first Proby there in
like nine or ten years. Really,

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I was going to say it,
how to be a senior house. It

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was the overtime was screwed, you
know, what was going through the roof.

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So they needed to get a lot
of Proby's, I think in that

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battalion which was about the uh they
were in with sixty seven engine at the

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time. Watch sixty one now,
But who was that battalion, Uh,

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that whole battalion, nine engine,
seventy three, ninety seven engine. They

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were all you know, niceer areas, slower a little bit, but all

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those places they are running now right, I know ninety forty one is uh

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is it supposed to be a great
house, you know. As far as

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even work it was with thirty some
years thirty forty, Yeah it was.

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It was a good time there.
I learned a lot. Yeah, I

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got a I can't say I got
a lot of work there, but uh,

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we got a couple of jobs there. We had a good fire there,

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well not for a couple of guys
who got hurt pretty bad. But

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where's the picture with the we had
a picture from this guy. It should

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be uh a fireman Jack Kreeger Creeden. He got hurt pretty bad. We

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had a we run I think Krueger
revenue and uh, oh that's that's you.

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That's the one I have from ninety
in the Yeah, nice package.

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Then that's that's the Beatles cover.
Brother man, I want another guy in

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front. How he got them Shuret's
off totally. He jumped into them.

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Bro. That's John Fantasy. Another
Proby that's to the left, but he's

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on the bed. We made a
bed, we had a roll. The

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guy gets in the bed and we
had a race down the block. Oh

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my god, next to me is
Mike Guardino, John Fantasy to my in

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front of me. That's freaking awesome. Yeah. Yeah, so that was

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a benefit for I forget who it
was. Okay, that's what I had

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mark for ninety engine. Let me
see if I have some Yeah, that

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was ninety engine and should add another
one with the there's a guy laying down

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taking care of by a couple of
guys. Oh, you're talking about that.

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We had a he was laying on
the ground and it was you know,

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take they were trying to take care
of him. You think about No,

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that's Brooklyn, Get out of him, Brooklyn. What did you do?

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Did you label anything for? Yeah? I don't really get it.

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Come on, I'll start the story. Pete. You some of them,

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bitch man, like a five story
tenement with retail stores on the bottom,

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and uh, maybe it's your little
collage. Is it any collage? Yeah?

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The scissor gates that were on the
front of the store and they had

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the big showrooms on both sides of
the doorway, and uh, they were

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forcing the door, just the gate
outside and I and I remember waiting to

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have the line there and uh,
a crack came right down the window the

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whole big pain you know, like
the paint of glasses like ten by ten.

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Yeah, and uh and I think
I got enough oxygen in where we

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had a back drift and it blew
us all like passed. There was the

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sidewalks like twelve feet long, twelve
feet wide, and it blew us all

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over the cars, like way over
the park cars. That ain't sorry,

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sorry, sorry, that's all right. Yeah, that's the only one that

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I have marked ninety engine. I
mean I went through the black and whites

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that we have, so you go
through your little collage of pictures. Yeah,

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I didn't want to pull that up. All you guys are there,

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but yeah, right, maybe lose
God it could hold it up to the

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I can't find it. You have
it, Pete, I gotta find it.

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Give myself a slap. Will you
let me dig through what I have

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here to see if I missed it, because we if we were, if

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we marked it, that's the only
thing I marked a specifically night. I'll

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put you on the pain on my
list right now. You start digging ahead.

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That's my fault. Did you had
a lot of World War two guys

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or Korean War guys there when you
got there, You know what I really

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like, I said, I was
there like almost less than a year or

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maybe a year, and you didn't
really get to know these guys that well.

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Yeah, I came in, I
knew somebody. You knew some of

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the younger guys, and they were
a lot of some of the vets,

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you know, Vietnam guy still and
but really didn't talk about it, you

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know, because I was kind of
separated. Actually, I wasn't allowed downstairs

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in the basement. They said,
Stan, here's your brass, here's your

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polish. Yeah, take care of
the equipment on the rig, and just

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and just look at school. Yeah, I love it. Uh yeah,

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that's the way it was. And
you know who else was there with me?

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Jerry Tracy was he really Jerry Tracy
was a ninety engine when I got

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there. Jerry, what a good
man he was. But some people,

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man, yeah, well I think
we transferred out the next year. Within

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the next year, we were all
gone, you know. Me from there,

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Jerry went to one hundred and eight
into a little bit too. Yeah,

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definitely went away. Yeah, they
pissed off that you wanted to get

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out of it. They kind of
understood. No, I don't think so,

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you know, I mean it was
weird. I don't remember even saying

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goodbye almost. You know. It's
like, hey, you're on an order.

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You got to go to work in
Brooklyn, now, okay, goodbye.

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Yeah that's the way it was.
You know, I talked about this

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the photo right here, No,
that's Brooklyn. Yes, that's the only

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other one. All right. I
might have might have messed up on that

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one. That's all right. This
is for Ganta. My apologies. I've

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gone through everything you said. I
saw somebody on the ground to put your

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paper in. You don't get in
the first try, because very Alley focks

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you right the second. I know
he fucked you from Proby School, Proby

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School, going to yeah seventeen,
I had wait a year, actually a

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year and a half. Who would
you call again? Did you call Uncle

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Tony? Went? Well, like
we made the Hey Jimmy, you know

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Jimmy Boyle. Yeah, what's going
on? The fixer? Yeah? Well

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Jimmy did a lot of work for
a lot of guys. You know,

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he was a good man. And
your first order. You're over to two

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seventeen. Yep, over to two
seventeen, and it was like another world.

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That's a good bye house there,
bro, they run in with some

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fucking well put that picture up guns, the ones with with all of the

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guys in there. Uh do you
talk about the black and white? Yeah,

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okay, go ahead, stand I'm
sorry, No, I mean the

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trucks you're running with one O two
one oh wait, one eleven was in

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the battalion with us, Yeah,
one twelve and occasionally one twenty four.

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You know, but look at that
picture though, it's a lot of good

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guy you know what I love too. There's nothing on either side of the

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buildings like standing there in the middle
of nowhere, right, I mean just

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I just looked at that quick and
I knew five got Eric Allen's on the

408
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:48.039
bigger Crooker rule that bigger Higgins.
Yeahiggins, Patty a fanus. Bobby A

409
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.400
thanis another guy brow up that Patty
Water is another guy who came to Hazball.

410
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.880
Yeah all right, that was a
good crew here, Jack Hayden.

411
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:02.119
That's Pete's brother. Eric was right
next to your Patty Waters. Go up

412
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:06.000
again a little yeah, yeah,
yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Higgins was

413
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:11.720
there, Joey Higgins. Joey Joey
beg of donuts. John Clancy, Oh

414
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:17.319
shit really yeah, Oh I was
in right one seven that night. Yeah.

415
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:19.200
For you guys that don't know,
he took one step in a vacant

416
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.119
and he fell through into the basement. Yeah. I think the taraza floor

417
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:29.160
on that one's staff landing fell through. Yeah. Oh, Bobby a Fantas

418
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.599
too. We gotta thank Bobby a
Fantas for the picture. He set this

419
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:38.519
all up. Whe's cugaroo there he
is in the center. Yeah, good

420
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:42.720
old Mark. He's still on the
job right, Yeah, he's the fourteenth

421
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:47.039
division commander. Now, yeah,
who was your captain there when you got

422
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:52.079
there? Jerry kleinb We called him
Flip. That was his nickname throughout.

423
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.559
He always was in that area to
wit lieutenant. I think in two eighteen

424
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.839
and uh, we still see each
other a lot. I still stay in

425
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:01.920
with the guys in two seventeen.
Not as much as some of these guys,

426
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:07.400
but uh, in the young guys
every February seventeenth. Yeah, there's

427
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:09.480
a party something that's great. Man. A lot of companies do that.

428
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.839
When we've been doing that, we've
been. Uh, I've been going to

429
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.039
all the parties and go to breakfast
that has Max. So that's great that

430
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:20.400
you keep in touch. Man.
Yeah, that's good though, But I

431
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.079
give it. I give a lot
of credit to the House to seventeen.

432
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:29.960
They're always together every uh was it
nine to eleven? Memorial Day and Christmas.

433
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.519
Certain bunch of guys would go out
to all the graves, the grave

434
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:37.799
sites, really put the reads down
through them. Great Man to seventeen continues

435
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:43.200
to get all that stuff together.
You know. Uh, next to me

436
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:47.920
is Richie Brady. He became a
captain like two thirty six. Jerry Klein,

437
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:53.400
next to Jimmy Boyle. Uh,
that's up in front is Jimmy's son.

438
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.000
And you know Charlie Powers right well, I saw him do the thing.

439
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.160
Charlie Powers was in he was a
lieutenant one of the squads. Oh

440
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:07.759
shit, yeah yeah, and Jack
Hayden and behind Jackison it was one of

441
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.480
the dispatches. Henny Dingman. He
passed away, Uh recently, maybe a

442
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.759
year or so ago. Wow,
But we all went up to see Jimmy

443
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.920
Boyle up in Syracuse. How long
did it take you to catch your first

444
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.720
job there? You remember at seventeen. I think that was my first night.

445
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:29.039
I think we had two jobs,
three jobs, no shit, but

446
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.240
I remember we went down on it
was a job on Decalva Avenue. But

447
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:37.240
it was weird. Two seventeen only
had I think like twenty one first two

448
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:43.559
boxes, and we would sometimes pass
a box no ship that was not our

449
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:47.599
box to get to another first two
box because you had engines two thirty two,

450
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:52.160
fourteen, thirty five, twenty two
and to eighteen coming from different ways,

451
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.680
and to sixteen and one. Eleven
was right in the middle of those

452
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:01.039
sons of bitches. Yeap. When
eleven was there were perfect spot man first

453
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:07.160
seventeen for a single engine brod our
work, yeah, and it was great.

454
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.679
We did our work. We didn't
do a lot of running, but

455
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:14.559
uh, I bet you can catch
it. Back then, we caught a

456
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:19.000
job almost once a night, you
know, once, very raally. You

457
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.639
didn't have a couple of jobs with
out a couple of daturs going by.

458
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.639
Look at those buildings, cool,
yeah, yeah, this is right.

459
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.719
This is the one where the corners
fell off. Yeah, this was the

460
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:34.000
one where uh Kenny Conley, I
think I have This was the news Caaper's

461
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:37.559
Gonzo clippings of this one you might
have. We can go and scroll through

462
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:42.840
because this is the the end end
of the product. There, Kenny Connley,

463
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.320
we were naturally boots right that one
where got knocked out of the boot.

464
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.519
It was a steel door that was
on top of the parlor door and

465
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:54.679
they forced the follow the door off. I had it actually in my hand,

466
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.679
and Kenny says, I got it
naturally. I'm in the engine,

467
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:00.920
he's got the door. He was
the chauff for probably that day, so

468
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:06.920
well I don't know where he was, but anyway, that's it. Oh

469
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.679
was at it? Yeah, that's
it. Uh you can see it actually

470
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:13.039
the corners is coming down before it
hits him. Oh wow, what a

471
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:17.880
great guy. One eleven's bucket and
uh yeah it was on Quincy Street,

472
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:23.239
Sumner in Quincy. So the bucket, the uh, the corners came down

473
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.719
and see how if you can see
how Kenny's holding the door, the steel

474
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.519
door. Thank god, it just
hit the steel door first. Wow.

475
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.239
Yeah, I could see how that
would happen. It would hit that because

476
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.079
it's higher than him there and I'm
I'm probably right next to him, and

477
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:42.119
uh, he got hit with that. And as soon as we heard that.

478
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:47.559
I turned around and Richie Brady,
who was in two seventeen, actually

479
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.679
he was, but detailed to two
fourteen. We grabbed him and uh,

480
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:53.960
you know, took him off the
stairs. And that's us. Uh,

481
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.159
and that's the chauffer from two fourteen. I forget his first name. And

482
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.119
what happened with him was he he
went to the hospital and uh it was

483
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.119
okay, he you know, got
out of it. That's what that's us

484
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.400
grabbing him and straightening him out.
You know, still had his helmet on.

485
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.559
Did you stretch the line and put
the fire on after that or what

486
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.119
the no was on the backup?
Guys? Had it good for you?

487
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.719
Yeah? But yeah, you're right
there that you're there, that's me.

488
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:27.760
Uh yeah, with the bunny rabbit
in my helmet. Yeah yeah, I

489
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.079
found that bunny rabbit on Easter Sunday
at a job. It was always in

490
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:36.360
my helmet. Yeah, that's it. We're taking care of Kenny, and

491
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:39.880
Kenny ended up being you know fine. Gods. Go back to that first

492
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:45.559
picture, this one which really now
the original color is coming down. Oh

493
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.559
okay. The article, yeah,
that was the Daily News. I think

494
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:54.599
you know you noticed look at the
fucking Shipthold next door to it had another

495
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:58.760
picture there that was what it was
like back then, right, like,

496
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:04.039
oh yeah, it's all vacancy.
That was Quincy Street too. Yeah,

497
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.599
look at the windows, the old
glass windows, regular glass, and it

498
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:09.079
looked like they just tried to set
new ones in. But you know,

499
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.639
right, yeah, I would love
to go back to that time in a

500
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:16.800
busy place like that. The amount
of work he caught. And just let

501
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.199
me see that first picture that you
had, the color one started yeah on

502
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.400
this on this role. It wasn't
on the role it was. But he

503
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.480
when you when the lieutenant said he
was in two seventeen, he kept showing

504
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.360
it. He was in ninety and
you said, he kept showing that pictures

505
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:37.079
like oh yeah, now you can't
find it. That one, that one,

506
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:46.360
the one you can't win from ninety
engine not only better glasses. I

507
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.840
give a lot of credits to these
photographers. Now there was no we didn't

508
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.480
have cell phones back then, right. They were all doing this by scanners

509
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.440
and they were on. Yeah they
were there. Man, who is this

510
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.960
the photographer? I mean, look
at those buildings, Look at all the

511
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.039
buildings, I know, I mean, Kidney, can you imagine working at

512
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.280
two seventeen. At that time,
bro like every day you get you going

513
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.400
to work. So yeah you,
I mean, yeah you were lucky.

514
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:14.480
You were probably pissed if you didn't
get a job, you know. But

515
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:20.199
my first night there, I just
remember who was it. Bobby Schaeffer was

516
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:24.599
in one eleven Old Timer and uh
one O two's aerial must have been up

517
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.639
to a window and he, I
think, runs up the aerial building.

518
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:31.800
It's on fire, it's just like
that, and jumps into the building and

519
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:36.639
he's got his jeans on his well
I call him dungarees, his boots in

520
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.280
the old dungaree jacket and jumps into
the building and I'm like, holy shit.

521
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:46.920
They do this, yeah every night, kid. That's the way Couples

522
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:50.840
shot to say. It was the
Duke. Is that the duke? That's

523
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.360
Kenny Colly's the duke? Yep,
you got the duke on his back.

524
00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.320
Crazy had a second section during the
Warriors were seventeen. They did, Yeah

525
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:05.400
they did. I didn't get there
for that one, but imagine that.

526
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:09.239
Imagine that how busy that they were
to have the companies have three I think

527
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:14.800
uh two thirty had the squad think
about how crazy that is well, like

528
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.159
you said, they get how many
first two boxes you have? I think

529
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:24.239
twenty one? Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I got somebody all about getting

530
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:30.119
it fast, bro. But uh
and every time you went out, uh

531
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:35.800
you were, you better be on
the rig because you have to beat in

532
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.559
two thirty engine or to fourteen.
Those were, I mean, and maybe

533
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:42.760
two twenty two. They were a
little bit lower than us towards Broadway.

534
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.760
You had it, you had it. You had to beat them in,

535
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:49.199
you know, yep. And that's
the way it was, you know.

536
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.119
But uh, you know, some
guys were walk far from the Bronx right

537
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.800
where oh your first dude, you
and the Bronx. Oh my god,

538
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:59.360
it was so far. Some of
these runs were so far too ye.

539
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:00.960
Yeah. But even if you beat
the guy and you're like, oh no

540
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:04.480
you first do go ahead, No, go ahead, guy, I don't

541
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.320
want to say that. I'm not
saying that. No go ahead, Fuck

542
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:14.360
my sister, don't worry about it. He's like, good, good,

543
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.880
good being there. You know,
great company, great house, great guys.

544
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.800
You were therefore was ten years,
right, yeah, I think about

545
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.320
nine years. The officers were great. I think the whole time I was

546
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:30.480
there, we had one captain uh, three lieutenants, and then Brian Sullivan

547
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:36.360
came. When one of the guys
went over with Joe Fitzgerald, it was

548
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:39.719
another great lieutenant. They're all good
fire offices, fantastic fire ropses. Joe

549
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:43.400
Fitzgerald, though, I got to
tell you, he's the type of guy.

550
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.960
You're you're on the ground put having
nozzle, putting the fire out,

551
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:52.000
and the fire goes out, and
he's standing up still waiting to have a

552
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.800
cigarette, you know, and the
eyes are beat red. Never put his

553
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.000
mask on, you know, because
I was in the we were in the

554
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:04.280
time where we were still trained to
the old Scott mask too so, but

555
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.719
then it's finally got to the well, you know, Scott four point fives

556
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.079
were good, but he would never
wear his mask. Some of these guys.

557
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.639
Chief Captain Klein would never even give
a ten seventy five because he didn't

558
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:20.280
want the chief sin. We could
do it. We got it, guys.

559
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.159
You know I could have used that
one. Well we have that was

560
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:27.239
the picture of the guy who lost
his shoes, right, Oh Kenny Conley,

561
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.480
Yeah, is that the picture we're
talking about now with the with the

562
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.360
corner So no, no, no, no, well that's a different one.

563
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.280
I'm sorry what you just put up. That was something else. But

564
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.519
the picture of the guy with out
of shoes, what was that one?

565
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.760
That's Kenny Conley. That's where the
corners fell down, right, So Richie

566
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.199
Doomy could said he wanted he wanted
his shoes because old timers would say,

567
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:57.599
if you didn't have your shoes on
your dead ah, he wanted his shoes

568
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:04.039
because old time. Okay, we
got a picture of that gods with him

569
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:07.199
one of his shoes, out of
his shoes. There you go. I

570
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.760
felt I felt bad because at the
time, Richie's got the one leg in

571
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.239
which Reagan his other leg. You
know, Oh, guys, still me

572
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.320
a favor. I was telling Kevin, see that the p D guy.

573
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.760
Yes, all right, remember that
face because when we go to the face

574
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.639
on the thumbnail that I made Gary
the next job, I think it's the

575
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.480
same. I would think. I
think it is Dan because I could see

576
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.599
his face because I put that together
today when I was making the show to

577
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:37.639
put and I think that's his face
in the car, like right by the

578
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:44.440
car window with his tie. Look
at him, he's got his shoes on.

579
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.719
Yeah. So are we talking about
the gravy made R two that one,

580
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.199
yes, okay, let's talk about
that one. Then you get detailed

581
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:58.960
to A two. Yeah. Well, being that rescue was didn't have there

582
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:00.800
wasn't sock at the top, and
uh, they were in the fire.

583
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.639
They went over from Calton Street and
they went over to Dean Street, and

584
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.280
uh there was the five seven Battalion, considered the five seven battalion, so

585
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:14.320
when there's manning, you know,
they were down, they called the five

586
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.920
seven battalion. So they called and
uh, I think on that day I

587
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.639
had a it was the Proby.
Richie Brady was the proby at the time.

588
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.920
They didn't send Proby's out. Well
we didn't send probs out either,

589
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.239
but they weren't going to take a
probate at rescue too, so I went

590
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.960
and uh, you know, it
just turned out to be uh a nice,

591
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:38.320
you know, nice day. So
we got a call at uh uh

592
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:45.760
was it Pacific Street and uh and
actually I think rescue might have been technically

593
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:51.719
second due truck because they did have
their first and second do boxes. I'm

594
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:53.920
pretty sure about that. And uh, but we happened to be the first

595
00:43:54.039 --> 00:44:00.840
unit in we beat I think one
twenty three in so but to twenty seven

596
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:06.880
I think was first due and it
was a I guess a four story I

597
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:13.000
think it was a four story frame
and fire on the probably the second or

598
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:20.480
third floor, not sure about that. But so I had the can.

599
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:24.400
I'm with Artie Connolly was a lieutenant, and I'm just following him. You

600
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:27.639
know, I didn't even have to
put a radio on because I'm in the

601
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.920
engine. Now, everybody in rescue
gets a radio, right, I don't

602
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.360
even have to turn the radio on. Yeah, we didn't have radios in

603
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.320
the engine. Only do you off
Sudden in the SHOWF had one. It's

604
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.599
all right, all right, I
got a radio. I put up my

605
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:45.000
hood. We have a job put
on the hood. And because they I

606
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:46.480
don't even think they were a mandatory
back then, but I had one,

607
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:52.719
and so we made it up to
twenty seven. Goes to the door in

608
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:58.880
the back exposure three the apartment and
they get the door open, fires coming

609
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.760
out the door. They lose water. So and I had the can there

610
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:07.400
me and being that we're kind of
first do truck now, Lieutenant Connley and

611
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:13.320
myself we're gonna you know, find
the fire, do his search and and

612
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:17.079
the fire they lost water, fire
starts coming out through the doorway into the

613
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:21.559
hallway, and I'm going to start
to hit it with the can, and

614
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:23.960
all of a sudden, I hear
he must have just yelled, hey,

615
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.199
go upstairs. I turn around,
like, hey, look, I can't

616
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.760
I'm hitting the Yeah, I got
the he lost water. I'm hitting the

617
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:35.159
He goes now. So I turn
around and he's got an infant under his

618
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.679
arm. Uh yeah, under a
year old. So I said, all

619
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.960
right, guys, you got the
can. I think I took the hook

620
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:49.199
upstairs with me and I made a
search on the top floor and I found

621
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:53.480
a six year old girl. You
know, it was kind of tough that

622
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.199
day because my daughter is almost the
same age back then. That's all I

623
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.440
kept on thinking about, I'm bringing
the I grabbed the girl, supposed to

624
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.840
give her ten forty five. Never
did it on the radio. I think

625
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:06.639
I might have done it later on
down the stairs or something, you know.

626
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.199
But I made the search. Fire
was uh was going up into the

627
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:13.840
shaft. So it was pretty good, pretty charged up there, and UH

628
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.239
just hey, did what the training
did, right, do a certain picture

629
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.320
and store that picture up and uh
brought around. There was no ambulance at

630
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.039
the time. I brought it down
and the only thing there was the battalion's

631
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.239
car. I forget what battalion it
was. Does it say on the can

632
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.719
now four four? Maybe, I'm
not sure. No, it's that's the

633
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:38.119
two thirty four's oxygen. Oh okay, so uh so, uh, you

634
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:43.039
know, I took it down,
gave her, you know, some oxygen,

635
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.119
and she ended up living. So
it was a nice day. Wow

636
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:50.840
that you ever talked to her after
that when she got older? No?

637
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:53.880
Never did you know it was?
I always thought about that, you know,

638
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.440
I'd really like to see who it
was, you know, Yeah,

639
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:02.760
but oh, never never did So
how long ago was that? What would

640
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.280
she beat today? All right?
That was she was six years old,

641
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.000
and that was in eighty nine or
eighty and maybe eighty eight or eighty nine

642
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:14.760
ninety so she's thirty, she's thirty
seven, thirty eight. W yeah,

643
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:21.079
yeah, like yeah, right,
but uh that was the mustache looks a

644
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.800
little darker back then, kids,
Sure it is, boy man, and

645
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:29.679
I probably had a little bit of
hair back then too. Where's the picture

646
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.000
of both the early picture of him
and his wife? I remember that picture

647
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:37.440
that look at there's the cop though, right, Yeah, it was that

648
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:39.599
I think that's him, man.
Me and I always wondered who was that

649
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:44.280
guy? You know that looks like
Elvis? I think he was a photo

650
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.119
bombing me, I think. So
he's still got his tie on. Nice

651
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:53.280
bro. Yeah, But but it
was funny because now you're in you're in

652
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:58.000
rescue, all right, the job
is over and you just get back in

653
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:00.880
the rigging right away, no popping
ho right, you know. But and

654
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:06.719
I was actually with that day Addie
Connelly he's now passed away, and uh,

655
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.840
Billy Lake and Kevin Dodell Oh wow, really yeah. I got the

656
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:14.960
other guys though, who was with
me? Yeah, that's my wife that

657
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:21.960
he's part of the club too,
bro that right right? Oh the younger

658
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.480
picture too, was like look at
that one. Oh yeah boutchi wow?

659
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:31.840
Wow bro nice she's got that seventies
flip bro yeah right, yeah for you,

660
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:37.960
it doesn't even look like me.
Look at that mustard. I say

661
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.199
that every morning I look in the
mirror, like, that doesn't even look

662
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.039
like me. Who the fuck is
that guy? So? I think I

663
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.079
was looking at the receipts, you
know, when you get your gear,

664
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.800
yeah, and you sign up all
the information you're supposed to plant in for

665
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.280
emergencies. I think I was one
fifty seven when I got on the job.

666
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:58.639
Wow, yeah yeah, probably yeah, close to that now. But

667
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.400
it was the Faro force at Flip
that was the did they put you in

668
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.440
for a metal that day? Metal
fu. Yeah, we got to be

669
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:13.000
both myself and Lieutenant Conley got to
be b B well for personal. I

670
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:17.039
was told that Lieutenant Conley didn't even
like to write anything, right, So

671
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:21.760
I was thankful that at least I
got to be. But you know,

672
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.880
I've seen guys go to metal day. We're not the only two people that

673
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.039
think we're rescued in that building or
yeah, wow, that's a great h

674
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:32.119
that's a great think about it.
We're first due truck. We're not really

675
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.239
you know, that's a great rap. Yeah, And they said, Stan,

676
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:37.480
we got to get out of here. I think one twenty three is

677
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:43.239
going to be mad, like why, you know, because maybe we beating

678
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.000
a man or something. Yeah,
yeah, hey, you know the way

679
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:49.639
it was, it was you guys
know what the you know and stuff.

680
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:54.800
Competition. Yeah, it's competition,
good friendly competition. But uh, I

681
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:59.639
enjoyed working there. I worked a
couple of toes and rescue as a fireman

682
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:05.599
too. One night, my brother
came up from Florida, my brother Stephen

683
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:08.760
at that time he was a marine
and he was yeah, he was in

684
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:13.639
the Marines and he was stationed in
Virginia, so he was a volunteer fireman.

685
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.199
So he comes up and again I
get the detail at night to go

686
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:22.159
over to rescue. And it turned
out to be a very slow night,

687
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:27.960
and I think at two in the
morning we get a job coming in on

688
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:32.280
like towards one eleven and one seventy
six down that way, and this guy

689
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.159
lit up a tenement. And I
got to thank Tommy Richardson for taking me

690
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.960
that night and showing me how to
go on to the fire escape in the

691
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.920
back, make it up the fire
escape, drop the ladder, go up

692
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.800
the back, and it was raw
and people were bailing out the windows right

693
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.639
bailing out. It was great.
And my brother Steven stayed in the front

694
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.079
watching the whole thing. All right, again, put it out, you

695
00:50:54.199 --> 00:51:00.119
go back home. Nothing happens.
Well, a couple hours later, the

696
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.679
the building went next door went up
and it was the same thing. The

697
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.000
guy lit the wrong one on fire. Oh, it was the same thing.

698
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:12.880
And Stephen goes my brother's like you
get this all the time. I'm

699
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.840
like, yeah all the time.
Yeah again we did. But you know

700
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:20.880
he's catching these good jobs, you
know. Yeah, so it worn't that

701
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:24.679
good. But thank you Tommy for
helping me out there. Patty Lee said

702
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:30.800
something about the first time he worked
in one twenty four or what happened the

703
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:36.280
first time. No, I was
never in one twenty four. He mentioned

704
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:43.000
something about working with well maybe the
only he met one twenty four. First

705
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:46.000
time I met one twenty four.
Now it's a good ride from one twenty

706
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:51.199
four over to two seventeen. You
know, they have borderline Queen's right,

707
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:54.400
yeah, over and and they want
to say hello to me. My uncle

708
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.800
probably Pete McCarthy, his brick laying
partner who was also won twenty four,

709
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.360
and that's why I worked with on
the side. But they came over and

710
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:08.159
uh, Captain Walthall was the captain
at the time, really big guy,

711
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:13.280
you know. Uh, and uh
he comes over to me, and you

712
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.239
know, I'm five ft eight and
he comes over and gives me a big

713
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:22.239
kiss on the lips. Welcome son, a new home, welcome to Brooklyn,

714
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:27.119
and uh it was nice. You
know, it's like, oh,

715
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.480
okay, that's Oh, that's freaking
awesome. It's great. You never had

716
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.599
a thought to go to one of
the trucks. You always wanted to stay

717
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:37.639
in the engine, you know.
Yeah, I just like doing the engine

718
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:43.559
work, you know. Uh,
I like doing the engine work. I

719
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.480
like I was just gonna say,
like I got the b over there with

720
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:50.559
the with the young girl, but
the unit citations. I like, because

721
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:53.440
we're putting out the fire, who's
the chief who says put out the goddamn

722
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:59.039
fire? You know? Yeah?
Who was that? You know, We've

723
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:00.920
had a few guys say different things
of who it was, right right?

724
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:04.920
I love that, love the expression, you know, the fucking fire out.

725
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.199
Yeah, but you know, I
really at the time never did.

726
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:13.159
I mean worked in one eleven truck
a lot. Yeah, you had guys

727
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:19.679
like Jimmy Baseil and uh Kill Cannon
and a bunch of good guys coming through

728
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:22.760
a lot of good guys coming through
our seventeen house because we had the art

729
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:28.000
group, the art for the covering
Lieutenants. We worked through our house.

730
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:30.960
You know a lot of good guys. Did you ever have any of them

731
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:32.960
ask you, Hey, why don't
you come over to the truck? You

732
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.639
know? Nah? Nah, that
was all. Uh, you've had Bobby

733
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.400
Austin right done, No, because
he's too busy for us. He will

734
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:45.079
come on all right. Bobby Austin
was like recruited from two thirty to go

735
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:49.840
over to one eleven. But I
never got I just never, you know,

736
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:52.199
got that invitation. So Bobby Sono
said, some of us just loved

737
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:59.719
the engine. Hey, tell Bobby
we got promoted together? That right?

738
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.440
Yeah? And he posted a long
time ago. Yeah, Pattie said,

739
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:10.559
height requirement. Yeah. Bobby posted
a picture that we were at getting promoted,

740
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:14.880
and we were at Randall's Island and
it was like a hundred degrees and

741
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.719
I'm the picture is of him,
but I'm in the background. So at

742
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.920
least I got a picture. I
couldn't post that. I don't know where

743
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.440
it is, so at least tell
him thank you for that. I love

744
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:29.199
that guy great too. Huh oh
yeah yeah, yeah, good man great?

745
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.800
Yeah. Good. If I call
my dad because he reminds me of

746
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.800
my father, he always looks too. Here's the big question. Are you

747
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.519
ready? Yeah, go ahead,
you know it's coming, right. Why

748
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:46.360
do you decide to transfer to the
three thirty one? All right, I'm

749
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:51.800
on vacation you know, been there
for a while. I'm on vacation.

750
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:54.679
I come back and we're we're doing
maybe some runs I don't and maybe it

751
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:59.079
just wasn't a good day for me
and we and we got hit from they

752
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.119
started throwing battery. He's at us
as we're back in the rigging, and

753
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:07.159
I remember me and another fireman running
up to the There was a lot and

754
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.239
then the uh you know, a
tenement and we run upstairs and like we're

755
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.400
going to try to do something to
catch these kids. And I said,

756
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:17.480
uh, you know, I think
I've had it. I'm done because I

757
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:22.880
went to visit a couple of guys
who left two seventeen to go to three

758
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.880
thirty one, and I just visited. I said, I'm done. I'm

759
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:28.440
not going to get promoted because I
was on the end of the list,

760
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.440
right and I figured, uh,
you know what, let me put a

761
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:35.760
paper in and uh, regretfully,
you know, it was my problem,

762
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.480
my only regret, and not that
it was a bad place, but I

763
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:43.599
should definitely shouldn't have done it.
And I ended up going there. Hey,

764
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:46.320
we had a great, great house, some good guys, and they

765
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.920
were all senior guys too. A
lot of the guys from Haarlem and uh,

766
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.559
you know wherever East New York and
Brooklyn, you know, and whatever.

767
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:59.639
But it just wasn't my fit.
And actually on the same order Richie

768
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.679
Bevis from two thirty five engine,
Uh, actually one thirty two thirty five

769
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:07.559
fireman went to one thirty two.
He happened to be on the same order,

770
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.840
but almost for the same reason.
He was in a shootout. Well,

771
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.760
him and another guy, Jimmy Sabastano
who is now a lieutenant from two

772
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:19.440
seventeen he's working in one thirty two
or the engine was it to eighty?

773
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.360
They were in a crossfire for shooting. No, shoot, I think screw

774
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:27.599
that. I'm getting out. That's
why he left, and I left because

775
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.159
of some others, you know,
stupid reason. But uh, it was

776
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:35.599
great over there either though. It's
not great over there either, no,

777
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.119
I know. But hey, you're
on the water. The guys are fishing

778
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:43.320
in the back. You know,
it just looks over there. No,

779
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:46.199
the neighborhood is not great over there. How would be mocking that sucks?

780
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:51.199
Oh? Three thirty two thirty one, Oh you're talking about Yeah, ain't

781
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.320
good over there? And the iron
a storm right, Oh, so you

782
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:58.559
went maybe a confused I too,
you went to uh, what's seventy five?

783
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.199
And uh, no, I never
did. You said, no,

784
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:08.360
I never went to se You went
to on Golden How you get out?

785
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:13.920
Now? Now the light bulb goes, what the fuck are you doing?

786
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:19.039
What? I was gonna probably transfer
out again, and that time maybe I

787
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.599
would go to the right that I
heard I was probably gonna get promoted.

788
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:28.599
Oh, I got promoted at her
there, So yeah, I wanted to

789
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:30.840
get I should have got promoted.
Yeah, I should have got promoted out

790
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:32.880
of the place you were after almost. Yeah, a friend of mine from

791
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:37.440
probably school who went from one thirty
five truck and he transferred over to that

792
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:42.280
on Golden Pond, and he just
said, soft the sheets on the job,

793
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:45.039
bro. Really, you know what's
weird. What's weird is I caught

794
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:51.599
like three good fires that you know, thank you you had to worry about,

795
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:59.320
and uh were almost we got a
fire got pushed in on us out

796
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:04.239
of private you know, we made
it through the front door of a one

797
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:07.320
story private delt dwelling with a basement
and you know it's got the kitchen door

798
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:12.320
on this exposure to side that goes
to the kitchen and the stairs. Yep,

799
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:19.440
Well it's one of the truck guys
opened up the door thinking it was

800
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:27.280
a closet, but two thirty six
engine went beat to the basement seller back

801
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:30.440
door, started the line and pushed
the fire up. This guy opens up

802
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:37.119
the door and we got a shitload
of fire on us and Rescue four was

803
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:38.760
at the front door trying to find
us, trying to get us. Saturday.

804
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:43.320
I mean, we've had a couple
of jobs. Was that restaurant on

805
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:54.400
Italian restaurant in Queens? I'm Leffrits
dotey don Pep's ye think there was a

806
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.840
fire over there. We had a
job next to next in the supermarket,

807
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:01.639
but we had a couple of fires
there, you know, but it wasn't

808
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:06.719
like even there for a short time. So really so then I you know,

809
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:09.280
then I finally got promoted. That's
a horse of a different color.

810
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.960
I thought you were talking about three
thirty two. I misread that. So

811
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:16.440
why would you go from to seventeen
to be thirty two? Yeah, but

812
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:22.719
I understand going to three thirty one. It's only one number off, that's

813
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:28.159
all. Yeah. You U see
John Gotti over there? Bro not maybe,

814
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.920
but good neighborhood for that. Oh
yeah, bro, yeah, they

815
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:36.239
took care of those people over there. Yeah, Louis and I went to

816
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:40.119
school with the Gottis. Oh really
with the high school. Yeah, and

817
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:45.679
uh, what's the other guy's name? Peter? And uh who was in

818
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:51.920
my class? I forget his name? No, I was a Gotti Richie

819
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:57.760
Richie Gotty, Richie Gotty. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

820
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.719
They took care of the neighborhood,
that's for sure. Yeah. They

821
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:08.119
liked the Double Park, though.
You ain't gonna tell them the movie Red

822
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:12.960
Time to get our dinner and lunch
Red Time. I remember that Red Time.

823
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:15.880
Yeah. I love that place when
I was a kid, and then

824
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:17.599
I was the other the Pizza City, right, wasn't that Pizzizza City is

825
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:20.960
gone? But that used to be
a treat I tell my kids all the

826
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:24.840
time. It used to go once
every six months to Pizza City. Lenny's

827
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:30.639
Clams, right, yeah, that's
right. Yeah, Russo's on the bay

828
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:34.000
down the block. Ink. Yeah, I had one of my I had

829
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:37.920
one of my weddings there, bro
me yeah, for good about it.

830
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:40.039
So all right, so you go
to three thirty one, then you get

831
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:46.519
promoted right August fourth of ninety one, this is where we start a Bureau

832
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:52.159
fire prevention. That was a common
thing, right, Yeah, it keeps

833
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:57.239
coming back pretty long. We were
told we were all going to get promoted.

834
01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:00.039
I guess there was a lot of
attrition at the time, and a

835
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.280
lot of guys retiring getting out,
a lot of bosses, right, and

836
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:06.320
they made the whole list. I
think they made the whole list. But

837
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:10.320
you know, I did well on
the first test. But the first test

838
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:16.800
was thrown out because of whatever you
want to call it, whatever, you

839
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:22.519
know, bush marks. That was
yeah, like eighty I think six or

840
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.719
something like that. I did pretty
well on that, and then, uh,

841
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.480
you know, I figured I got
to study again now, so I

842
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:31.760
didn't study as much. You know, you lose it a little bit,

843
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:37.119
but hey, I still made it. And uh, you know, but

844
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.679
now they told us we had to
we'll do favors. Some guys went to

845
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.440
Bureau of Operations, didn't even get
an house. Some guys went to UH

846
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:51.280
Division of Training. Some guys went
to UH five Prevention. So I had

847
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:55.800
to go to five Prevention. I
became head of the acting like boss fire

848
01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:01.920
boss of Division ten at the time, I think ten or eleven whatever it

849
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:06.519
was. So now I had to
go every day though, four days,

850
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:12.000
four days a week to uh living
was Livingston Street at the time. Yeah,

851
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:15.039
Livingston Street where you had to go
four days a week you had to

852
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:19.280
go, Yeah, four week I
had to get on the train and go

853
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:23.639
to work. What yeah, you
know. So and that in Manhattan.

854
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:29.840
Yeah, it's better than Manhattan,
I guess, right is on the Brooklyn

855
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:35.079
Brooklyn Yeah, the old original headquarters. Yeah yeah, fifty Livingston Street.

856
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:39.400
Yeah, so I did that for
a while. And it's funny how uh

857
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.599
who was it Tom Greeney from one
Away Truck one hundred and eighth sorry,

858
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:52.000
and uh we both went to that
d o. I'm end up having a

859
01:02:52.039 --> 01:03:00.760
little fight with the civilian fire prepensed
guy allegedly, allegedly, and then he

860
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.440
gets transferred to it. He goes
to a company. You can send them

861
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.920
out to a company and you're just
still there. You should have punched somebody

862
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:09.599
in the face, bro, you
know, yeah, you know. So

863
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:13.960
she was just taking one of those
civilian guys and punched them right the joy

864
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.280
and you would have been a company
bro. Yeah, you know. You

865
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:20.199
gotta do what you gotta do,
you know. So how we just spend

866
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:25.039
the fire prevention I probably about a
year and a half. Two four days

867
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:29.920
a week for a year and a
half. Yep, yeah, yikes,

868
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:36.280
yeah, and I got yeah,
I did. Then I'm assigned to the

869
01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:39.360
five three battalion, so it was
so packed still, you know, everybody

870
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:43.880
who had I guess bigger hooks,
got some companies, all got the cover,

871
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.079
and so I went to the fire
three. I covered a little bit

872
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:54.400
over there. Who's the truck near
Anton's? Remember the uh sixty Anton's the

873
01:03:54.480 --> 01:04:03.920
restaurant in Queens what sixty two?
Who's else? Feel bull run? No,

874
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:09.280
that's the other way, uh more
on the north shore. But anyway,

875
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:14.639
I go to the truck over there. I'm covering one day and we're

876
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:17.880
out on BI and the districts are
so big for the trucks, you know,

877
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:23.559
we're out on one. I guess
the s end of the administrative district,

878
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:28.360
and uh we get a call,
so we shoot over to uh the

879
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:30.840
other side of the district. I
said, guys, by time we get

880
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:33.480
back to the other side of the
district, it's gonna be, uh,

881
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:36.880
it's going to be it's gonna be
ten to four. It's gonna be almost

882
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:43.079
four o'clock. Go back to the
firehouse. Do not punch in? All

883
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:47.239
right, don't don't punch in on
the computer. And uh so now it's

884
01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:53.440
ten to four, phone rings house
watch because they stand, Chief wants to

885
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:58.360
talk to you. No way the
kid someone punched in. So now because

886
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:01.519
I would have been listening on the
air where area. So the chief now

887
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.960
comes and visits me, and he
tells me that, yeah, you have

888
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:12.199
the guys are running this house.
You're a new lieutenant. I was going

889
01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:15.119
to give you engine two seventy four
because I was going to take two seventy

890
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:25.400
four and at ten to four before
a big deal about ten to four,

891
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:27.840
Oh, I'm like, all right, I would have been I would have

892
01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:29.920
take my lump, saying I'm a
new I don't know what to do.

893
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:32.880
You should have put your foot up
that kid's ass is what you should have

894
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:36.400
done. You know, like you
said, you knew, I don't know

895
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:39.679
who the guys are. You don't
know. That's another thing. You don't

896
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:44.440
know who the guys are, right, you know? And but uh so,

897
01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:46.400
uh at night I was at home, I get a phone call.

898
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:50.280
They stand, you want to go
to h you want to teach at the

899
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:55.000
rock. I'm like not really,
you know, I'm doing all this stuff.

900
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:57.880
You know, what do you got? He goes, well, we're

901
01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:00.239
looking for guys to teach has MATT
operations. I said, what's that.

902
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:04.400
That's a new class because everybody had
to do it because Osha came in and

903
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:09.639
said we were all weren't trained to
any levels of PASMAT right, So I

904
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:12.559
said, I don't know how to
spell has his materials. I says,

905
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:14.920
But he goes, oh, we'll
teach you. They had a bunch of

906
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:16.599
good guys over there teaching, you
know, setting it up. And I'm

907
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:19.800
thinking about this chief who just yelled
at me, And I'm thinking about,

908
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:23.679
you know what, my daughter is
young enough, she's on the softball league.

909
01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:27.639
Maybe I'll go help hang out be
a coach. I says, you

910
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.639
know what, Yeah, why not? So I took the detail and then

911
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.760
ended up being really yeah, pretty
good. Actually even better than good,

912
01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:39.639
because now we're able to work.
You know, Paulie Talbot, Yeah sure,

913
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:42.119
Seff Talba, Chief Talbot. I'm
trying to get him on the show,

914
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.039
Chief Talk. You got her.
Paula's a great guy. Me and

915
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:49.960
Paulie were partners and we set up
our classes. Now, I don't think

916
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:54.800
the older chiefs are listening anyway.
So we set up our classes, said

917
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:58.440
we didn't have to be two guys
doing the class. One guy come in

918
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:00.880
the morning, take the afternoon or
you know whatever. Yeah, and we

919
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.800
got the job done. Well,
that's what it was. We take that

920
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:08.719
schedule. Man. We took care
of the We took care of business.

921
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.000
But it was hard teaching has Matt
because I still had to learn it.

922
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:17.480
I didn't teaching yet that time.
The teaching well, Bobby Ingram was I

923
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:20.800
think just promoted for a while.
So he had set up a program with

924
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:28.239
George Mayer, you know chief mayor
was it Battalion fifty four and four who's

925
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:32.480
at fourth the eighth battalion. George
was over there doing some good stuff.

926
01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:38.440
And they ran a class. They
trained about probably about at least fifty guys.

927
01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:42.039
We all went up to different sites. Statt Nyland had a site Brooklyn

928
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:47.159
Navy Yard, seventy three engine in
the Bronx and where else maybe that was

929
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:50.239
it. And uh, and you
set up different guys teaching the class.

930
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:55.599
Guys would come in from Brooklyn or
Queen's for the Navy Yard, and it

931
01:07:55.719 --> 01:07:59.280
was tough because some guys did not
want to learn Hasmack or not that theyn'tven

932
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:01.440
want to learn. It didn't want
to be there, you know, and

933
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:05.559
it was new at the time,
and you know, you try to entertain

934
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:08.840
some of the guys, and some
of some guys were good though. Some

935
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:12.559
guys really wanted to learn. And
I always felt that, hey, I'm

936
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:15.600
I'm willing to learn and uh,
you know, learn the stuff because you

937
01:08:15.680 --> 01:08:20.760
had before this, right we had
was it rescue for was the only has

938
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:26.319
mat right? Right? You had
a lot of good guys from there learning,

939
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:29.800
you know, we're teaching and stuff. John Dorman, you know,

940
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:31.640
lou A lot of guys come on
the show and they do these things where

941
01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:34.640
somebody calls them up out of nowhere
like that and says, hey, listen,

942
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:36.239
you want to come do this,
you want to come do that,

943
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:40.319
and they're like, I don't know, but you know, it's like seems

944
01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:44.560
like it's perfect timing in their career, excuse me. And then all of

945
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:46.399
a sudden, you just like you
just said, before you know it,

946
01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:50.600
it just fits and yeah, you
never you know, it's not something that

947
01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:54.960
you're looking to do, and it
before you know it. It's just it's

948
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:59.000
a perfect thing for you, you
know, what I mean in your career,

949
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:00.319
as long as you had good guys
work. And we did have a

950
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:08.319
problem one of lieutenants, and I
think with no stop it. I think

951
01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:14.399
I never heard of him. And
I'm not going to name names, but

952
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:17.960
yo, one of the old bosses
had an argument with the lieutenant. So

953
01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:23.800
they just got up and left after
a bunch of yelling, and the one

954
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:28.439
lieutenant that worked for with us,
I'm taking marks in the journal. We

955
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:31.560
had a journal, and you know
that's it. You guys are having charges.

956
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:35.800
So I told that guy to leave
and I took care of the rest

957
01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:40.079
of the class for the rest of
the day. Of the lieutenant he left.

958
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:44.520
So I'm at uh, I'm at
home again, and Chief cassa Bury

959
01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:46.000
calls up. Remember the chief or
do you know the name? I know

960
01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:50.279
the name, great chief. He
ended up. You know he was who

961
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:57.279
that ty bear, but a fantastic
chief, a gentleman too, because I

962
01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:01.119
stand how you doing? The good
chief, honestly tell me what happened.

963
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:04.680
I told them what happened. I
said, the little argument, it got

964
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:09.680
a little hot, and uh,
and that was it. So that lieutenant

965
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:13.920
didn't teach us anymore. Two ninety
You think how to come and retake the

966
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:17.199
class, you know. But other
than that, it was it was pretty

967
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:19.880
much okay, you know, but
it was boring. Slides were there then

968
01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:24.399
slide slide slide, so you had
really had to get into it. So

969
01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:27.640
I got into it, you know, and you almost didn't need the carousel

970
01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:30.439
of slides you know talking about And
it really wasn't that bad. So I

971
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:32.960
got into it. I would bring
my son in once in a while,

972
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:36.800
and he knew all the colors,
he knew all these NFPA seven or four

973
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:40.680
diamonds, you know, he knew
the gases. He'd be blurting out the

974
01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:43.960
answers. The guys were like,
hey, kid, knock it off.

975
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.279
You're making us look bad, you
know. So that was just the basic

976
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:49.279
stump. And you were looking at
all they all the stuff in the guidebook,

977
01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:51.840
Yeah, in the guidebook, right, yeah, the OT guidebook and

978
01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:56.880
you know, some helpful hints.
Hey, and who knows and now has

979
01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:59.880
matters big, right, I mean, yeah, you were on the cusp.

980
01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:03.560
Yeah, so end up being good. So one night, the chief

981
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.520
cruthers who happened to be working in
the Marine division, that was like a

982
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:12.119
semi semi sock at the time,
right, the Marine Division was there.

983
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:16.079
Oh no, Chief Cruthers said,
stand one night, you're working and has

984
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:20.000
Matt won tonight over time. I'm
like, Chief, I've double worked there

985
01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:25.159
before, you know. No,
you're working there tonight, Chief stand,

986
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:28.159
I says, okay, Chief,
you got it. So I had mydea

987
01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:30.560
with me, naturally, and I
go over to has Matt one and they're

988
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.880
probably looking at me. Who's this
guy walking in the door, you know,

989
01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:38.760
because usually had the guys who has
Matt fireman? Right, we're now

990
01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:42.880
lieutenants and stuff like that, you
know. And and I just missed Jack

991
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:45.840
Fanning that he was a captain there
for a while. I think Chief Gallagher

992
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:51.199
went when he was a captain was
there and then Jack, he was like

993
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:57.760
the godfather of sock righty's Jack good
old? Look at that guys, Look

994
01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:01.039
at that guy's breast there. That's
one of the guys that me and Louis

995
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:04.680
say. This guy he's got three
a's that I could see. He's got

996
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:11.359
three b's that I could see.
I'm like, it's incredible metal day colors,

997
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.680
right, absolutely incredible. Yeah,
he had to counterweight in the other

998
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:21.439
so we wouldn't walk crooked. Jeff
Bolkowski. I'll put that back. Who's

999
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:26.239
the other guy on the right side
of what was his name? Uh,

1000
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:35.319
John Olicky in the middle Tony to
Bolkowski and Kowski. Oh my god,

1001
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:42.319
I remember that, Yeah, chief
Ingram mm hmm. I mean, uh

1002
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:45.800
it was. It was a good
crew. So finally, uh, I

1003
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:49.239
worked over there the first night and
has Matt. We had a couple of

1004
01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:53.279
runs. They freedom me fine,
you know, uh, And again I

1005
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:58.319
was just on overtime, nothing assigned
and nothing. And my first night we

1006
01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:00.600
got a bunch of runs. I
know, we had to do some drum

1007
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:03.479
recovery stuff. We've got a good
call. I think I might put it

1008
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:18.159
on the paperwork for radiological really,
you know. And at the FedEx plant

1009
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:24.960
in in uh Manhattan on thirty fourth
Street, when it happened was, uh

1010
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:32.119
the FedEx driver is delivering a box, small box to U n Yu I

1011
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:38.239
think one of the hospitals, and
the hospital does not accept it because they

1012
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:42.600
looked at the box and the box
was broken, broken open, very well

1013
01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:49.479
damaged. So uh now it's got
seeds of idnee. So uh, I

1014
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.560
mean is it bad? It's it's
stuff they use for putting in uh in

1015
01:13:53.720 --> 01:14:00.840
patients for chemo and radiological therapy for
cancer. But they have to insert it

1016
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:03.319
and it does have I think it's
got a shelf half life of sixty days.

1017
01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:10.399
The seeds, the seed is not
much bigger than a dash on the

1018
01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:14.439
computer. Really, yeah, I
think I have on the paperwork and some

1019
01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:18.560
of the pictures I sent in.
But anyway, yeah, you won't even

1020
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:20.920
be able to see it. Don't
worry about it. It's a picture.

1021
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.720
I always thought it was like a
pumpkin seed or something. No, it's

1022
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:30.600
oh, it's like like a dash, you know. Rook, Thank god,

1023
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:36.680
you order anyway size they want.
They got up. The seeds are

1024
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:40.760
all over the place. So now
we get there and we got to go

1025
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:43.560
through. Now, don't forget we're
the only rick. There's no more squad.

1026
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:45.039
There's no squads yet, there's no
you know, support, you know,

1027
01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:49.560
we're the only guys. We got
the resource man who did a great

1028
01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:54.159
job. He's got to call up. We had to call up I think

1029
01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:59.319
uh five or six different destinations.
The seeds started in California, went to

1030
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:05.720
Texas, went to uh Texas,
Illinois, New Jersey, and then to

1031
01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:10.560
the FedEx and then to the hospital. Now you're getting a broken box,

1032
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:13.399
so they had to call up every
box and see if it was how it

1033
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:17.680
was. So we determined that the
box was damaged at the FedEx plant and

1034
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:24.399
it leaked seeds all over the place. Wow, so maybe from the guy

1035
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:28.239
kicking it down the hallway, don't
Yeah. Well, so luckily the nurse

1036
01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:30.159
realized, hey, we're not accepting
this. So we got a bunch of

1037
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:33.920
calls and we had a you know
deputy, you know, deputy comes in

1038
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:40.680
battalion chief deputy and oh em Board
of Health was really at the time was

1039
01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:45.319
in charge of radiologicals and and they
realized they couldn't deal with anything, so

1040
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:48.920
they hey, can you help us
stay here? So we end up finding

1041
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:56.680
I think total of seventy five seeds. We found about fifty of them I

1042
01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:00.199
think. But fine, and they're
like you some tweezes. We're using the

1043
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:06.199
meter. Come on the wing with
tweezes. We had to take the conveyor

1044
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:11.760
belts apart at at the Fedecks building. So it was a good night at

1045
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.600
least it was about four hours at
that at that one point, what year

1046
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:18.319
is this? This is like I'm
trying to think when it was that was.

1047
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:25.760
I mean, you got the six. Wait, my first tour was

1048
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:31.119
ninety ninety four. All right,
yeah, that was again I wasn't even

1049
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:34.239
detail there, so I said,
hey, this ain't too bad, you

1050
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:40.720
know what. Well, then,
thank goodness Philly mcgondell. He rough wrote

1051
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:45.600
up the unit citation that we got
that nice, So thank you Philly,

1052
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:49.520
Philly Max. Yeah, hey,
Philly was the the grand pappy of that

1053
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:53.119
place. You know, you know, he was a good start, good

1054
01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:56.239
man's for that place. A lot
of guys were did he have a jumpsuit

1055
01:16:56.319 --> 01:17:00.079
on? What's that? Did he
have his jumpsuit on? I think he

1056
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:02.039
did? You know that he never
came out of him. Be true,

1057
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:05.399
that guy used to use that where
that one piece jumpsuit all the time like

1058
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:09.000
that, because I don't think he
could do it was hard for you to

1059
01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:13.600
get in and out of it.
Bro. He was a large manus just

1060
01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:18.600
like that. Maybe there you go. It's like a fine on a whim.

1061
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:23.800
But so that was. That was
the night of my first job at

1062
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:27.800
has matt In my first unit citation. First night, so did pretty good

1063
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:31.239
one for one beautiful bat in the
thousands did so? Then? Uh,

1064
01:17:31.359 --> 01:17:34.880
I think I ended up we did
pretty good well there, pretty pretty well

1065
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:40.239
and you didn't run the other way. Now that's what I mean, you

1066
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:44.600
know, for you. Yeah,
hey what radio radio Lon, I'll be

1067
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:48.920
over here. You guys figure that
I'm going home, right up? Guy

1068
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:51.800
get counter? Yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna go over there. Now you

1069
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:56.680
got counter. I should have said
ludlum Yeah he said lod No you said

1070
01:17:56.720 --> 01:18:00.960
lovem Yeah, okay, yeah,
he's missing. And then I go back

1071
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.920
and then uh I interviewed with John
Fatta, who was at the captain at

1072
01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:11.119
the time, again another I think
three thirty two guy, John Fatta,

1073
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:15.000
but he said, hey, Stan, you know you we're looking for a

1074
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:18.359
spot. Actually they were looking for
a fourth lieutenant there because that was actually

1075
01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:23.199
on the books for New York City
to have four lieutenants in that one unit.

1076
01:18:24.039 --> 01:18:28.239
So it was on the city charter, was it, Yeah, city

1077
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:31.159
charter, you couldn't take the fourth
guy out. And so what I did

1078
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:34.840
is uh I was scheduled for days. But then if I was to cover

1079
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:40.680
all the vacation spots, so it
was like having a big R group,

1080
01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:45.000
you know, for the guys right
for the lieutenants and offices, you'd have

1081
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:48.000
an our group to cover the like
the twenty fifth spot right on the chart

1082
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:54.279
and vacations and sickly, So I
got to do that and then uh,

1083
01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:59.600
and then finally Pete Steuby came over
as the captain. Yeah. I worked

1084
01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:02.920
there for a while with Pete and
uh again another we had some knowledgeable guys

1085
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.479
come in there. You know,
I had to go when I first got

1086
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:09.479
there, I had to go take
a chemistry class at the National Fire Academy,

1087
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:13.720
and chemistry I didn't take that in
high school. And I'm like,

1088
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:15.840
guys, I don't know chemistry.
You gotta go. You got if you

1089
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:18.479
want to be in has mad,
you gotta do two week class at the

1090
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:25.079
National Fire Academy. I was always
a day behind that when they were teaching,

1091
01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:30.800
you know, and so h.
But finally the next after the second

1092
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:33.119
week, I started to catch up. You know, a lot of A

1093
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:41.319
and E s you guys, chemistry
guys, Ganza as my haman involves the

1094
01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:46.159
thumb. If I can block a
lot of a lot of that stuff.

1095
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:50.279
Again, not of my league with
chemistry, but I had guys like Kevin

1096
01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:59.399
Smith, Dennis Scalzo, Tommy Gardner
came in late chemistry guys, Tommy god

1097
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:01.079
fifty eight engine right, Yeah,
I mean, if you if you had

1098
01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:05.000
to figure out Mike Connolly, good
guys. Yeah, Mikey Connolly ended up

1099
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:10.680
going to Squatty Team. But like
Skiff, I think about Scalzo and Smith.

1100
01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:14.640
You know those guys when it came
to at that time, right,

1101
01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:18.039
those guys were the definitely to go
to guys if some stuff going on like

1102
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:21.359
that, right, Yeah, you
know it's like being a boss, like

1103
01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:24.840
Stan, how'd you like it?
Well? I was learning. I definitely

1104
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:28.680
was learning. But when you're a
boss, I said, I could hold

1105
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:30.600
up a flash light just as well
there in the fire as I can and

1106
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:33.319
has been. Right. Well,
look guy, it's not like that,

1107
01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:36.039
but you know, you know what
I mean. It's like, hey,

1108
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:40.199
when you you have guys are that
good and you got to rely on them?

1109
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:42.119
Yeah, yeah, you gotta rely
it. Well, it's just like

1110
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:46.680
a job, right Yeah. Big
Company was it of Kevin Smiths? Yes,

1111
01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:50.319
Kevin smith was down there too.
Yeah, you know that's what I

1112
01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:55.520
mean. You never know where the
guys are, oh all the time.

1113
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:58.920
That's my one favorite saying. You
never know who you're talking to. Who

1114
01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:02.000
I remember? I remember Stuby,
I can't picture his face. I remember.

1115
01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:09.359
Oh yeah, great, great,
head, right, what is he

1116
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:13.840
doing now? That guy? I
think he's still working for either con Ed,

1117
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:17.039
No, what con Ed he was
working. It's still working in Manhattan.

1118
01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:20.800
I'm trying to think. I think
he was working for Disney for a

1119
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:26.479
while. Was he was something in
h smart again? Another smart guy coming

1120
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:30.159
with his New York Times? Yeah, and uh you know, and that

1121
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:34.399
was it? But was a how
how was it with Jack hack Tell me

1122
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:38.960
some stuff about I love Jack hack
Man. Was that guy kookie or what?

1123
01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:42.920
Like? What was the story with
him? You know? Yeah,

1124
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:44.800
but I don't really remember. I
mean I was a kid. I wasn't

1125
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:49.479
really paying attention, you know,
like that gave a great massage. Yeah,

1126
01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:59.319
did you eat a lot of garlic? But you can count my neck

1127
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:01.880
though, right, Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I drinking green water.

1128
01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:04.920
You were making vegetables. I didn't
put the green water in the side.

1129
01:22:04.960 --> 01:22:11.239
He would drink it. Well,
that was like Timmy Stackpole, Timmy Stackpole,

1130
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:15.880
God, God bless Timmy Reagan.
It's always on that health kicker,

1131
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:21.199
right, yeah, until he is
all that stuff blocked up his intestines.

1132
01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:30.680
Cash get a grapefruit sized blockage in
his intestines. Yeah. In two seventy

1133
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:33.359
four, now isn't she what's that
Kevin Smith's daughters in two seventy four,

1134
01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:35.920
right, she went from thirty nine. I think she went to two seventy

1135
01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:40.479
four. Okay, yeah, I
don't know where she was. She said

1136
01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:45.840
that when she was at the squad
of she went to seventy four. Yeah,

1137
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:48.880
it's quiet. That's a nice house
over there. Yeah, you do

1138
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:54.000
some work over there, yeah,
tech it, yes, But what I

1139
01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:57.199
like about it you had a whole
street that you can park and then you

1140
01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:00.479
get a ticket. My first,
my first there is a lieutenant. I'm

1141
01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:05.079
in one forty truck and I get
a parking ticket. So what is that

1142
01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:10.600
in the city? You know,
I remember some of my first you know

1143
01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:14.960
what year was that because my father
was over there. Oh yeah, yeah,

1144
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:20.520
probably ninety h He was gone an
eighty right, he was eighty eight.

1145
01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:23.720
Yeah, it probably would have been
like when I was still covering some

1146
01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:27.600
ninety three ish or something like that. Ninety two he was gone an eighty

1147
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:30.479
eight. Yeah. Who are the
other bosses there with you at that time?

1148
01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:35.079
Do you remember where? Yeah?
It was Creasy Creasy was the boss

1149
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:40.159
there at that time. Got chrissy. Yeah again, idea, do you

1150
01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:47.039
have any old guys in the Kevin
Cully plush Well basically Pete still be Kevin

1151
01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:55.439
Cully chrishy and well am I leaving
out? Come on, I can't,

1152
01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:59.359
I can't recall. We need to
go to a picture for you. No,

1153
01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:02.199
they he ain't gonna be here.
That's Bill Conway in the middle.

1154
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:05.680
Remember Bill Battalions. She ended up
coming over after nine to eleven to run

1155
01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:10.479
the hazmat ops. Yeah, he's
the old but he didn't work at that

1156
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:15.960
Neil Yank that Jack, Yeah,
Bill Yank. It's funny. I followed

1157
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:19.600
him in three different companies to seventeen. He was the two seventeen guy.

1158
01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:25.359
I know, he was a one
thirty eight guy. Guy seventeen actually when

1159
01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:29.960
I worked at the Delhi before I
got on the job, Neil Yank Uh,

1160
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:34.199
Kevin Shamberger, Yeah yeah, Kevin, Yeah, Kevin Shamberg. And

1161
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:39.600
the lieutenant from to seventeen, who
was that now at the time, I'm

1162
01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:42.159
trying to think of his name,
would come over and stop at my deli

1163
01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:45.199
and they'd get a button rolling a
coffee and they you're gonna be on the

1164
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:49.439
job, kid, don't worry,
you know. And then then Neil left.

1165
01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:57.720
Then he went to what uh one
eighty and missed that one, but

1166
01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:00.760
then he went to one seventy three. I saw three thirty one and then

1167
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:04.239
I end up seeing him. It
has met one. Wow, Joey Ivino,

1168
01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:09.600
Joey, I yeah, good man, Joey, Freddy Cohler, Philly

1169
01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:14.840
mcgonald made this one. Carl Shram, Freddy Cohlin, Carl Shram, Kevin

1170
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:18.199
Crosby, that's uh, what's his
name in the back there? Tony Carbon,

1171
01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:23.199
Tony car Bony. Yeah, yeah, I got a couple of those,

1172
01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:28.800
but a couple of different ones.
Rodgers, and then there's the rochi

1173
01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:36.399
of the funniest unfunny most unfunny funny
man. Right, uh, Tolly Rodgers

1174
01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:40.159
you had on right? Yeah?
Doherty? What I can't hear you?

1175
01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:45.319
What? Yeah? You gotta get
his good heart. Yeah. I saw

1176
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:51.199
Vinny at the Maureen Fannings Dinner dance
last week. Bobby Wilson. I don't

1177
01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:54.760
know if you guys met him.
No, No, he ended up going

1178
01:25:54.840 --> 01:26:00.840
to has met Ops for a while. Red jacket water, I'm sorry that

1179
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:05.760
was my little lieutenant. He's without
that mustache though. Yeah, I don't

1180
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:10.159
remember him. Yeah, he was, you know, former Navy seal.

1181
01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:15.159
I gotta give him his credit.
Yeah, he was, he was.

1182
01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:19.520
He dove into that. The flight
was at LaGuardia. Yeah, you had

1183
01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:25.239
that in and uh he went into
the plane under the water to get somebody

1184
01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:28.720
out. Hey, look who's in
the chat, Lieutenant. Who's that?

1185
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:35.560
Bobby Bobby Hunter? Bobby Hunter.
Yeah, yeah, Bobby Hunter came up

1186
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:40.800
for one of the breakfasts. Were
head one of my favorite guys, Bro,

1187
01:26:41.560 --> 01:26:44.560
Bobby Hunter. Go back, Gonzo, go back. You mentioned Patty

1188
01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:49.359
Waters. Yep, go back to
the water picture of h I'm sorry,

1189
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:53.439
go ahead, No, I was
gonna say while we're talking, what who

1190
01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:56.800
you look at one? Look for
the lord with Tomaszuski. Next one.

1191
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.800
Yeah, okay, so the guy, the rather large fellow that with the

1192
01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:05.359
glasses right there. I don't tell
you quick stories. So it was a

1193
01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:10.600
night tour. It's the morning.
I'm in the bathroom shaving, and when

1194
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:14.399
you look out the bathroom window you
can see guys coming in the morning.

1195
01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:18.920
And Ed's got this giant fucking sheet
cake that he must he must have had

1196
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:24.439
for when uh it was his daughter's
graduation. So what he did was he

1197
01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:28.119
pieced it all together and brought it
in his one fucking cake, right,

1198
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:31.680
So I go, I got him. I got him. He comes in

1199
01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:35.399
the kitchen. I go, hey, probably you bringing breakfast. You can't

1200
01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:39.600
bring in used cakes. That's against
the rules. You can't bring you can't

1201
01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:42.359
bring him used cakes. He goes, that's not used. I go,

1202
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:46.000
dude, you you pasted it all
together. You watched him do it.

1203
01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:48.960
No, but I could see it
was cut and the only day was push

1204
01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:51.520
it together. I'm like, that's
against the rules. You can't do that.

1205
01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:54.479
He goes, no, it's not. I'm like yeah, and as

1206
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:57.800
I'm like, besides the point,
it's bad. The cream is bad.

1207
01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:00.920
He goes, no, it's not. He puts his face down and smelled

1208
01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:12.279
him like, holy he fell under. He's got glasses on bro and the

1209
01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:17.840
cake like three years off his glass
glasses. But when he first put his

1210
01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:24.079
face out and looked like, holy
ships, really happening happened this guy on

1211
01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:29.920
this guy on the part apartment,
Like, you guys, you know what

1212
01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:31.600
Cob used to do to him all
the time, I've never heard that story.

1213
01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:35.119
He goes, He's just saying,
are you Tom and Azuski and Tom,

1214
01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:44.520
like, holy ship, the guy
fell for it. My face got

1215
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.159
the cake, bro, I'm bashing
your face that guy. If that ever

1216
01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:50.159
guy got pissed at you, coobs, he would squash you like sit on

1217
01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:54.039
me. Oh my god. He
was such a sweet He was such a

1218
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:57.760
sweetheart. Yeah, he was just
sweet. He's such a good even even

1219
01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:01.039
now when I somehow somewhere I ran
into him. Uh maybe at one of

1220
01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:04.159
the shows what we did, and
he might be still teaching and doing stuff.

1221
01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:09.000
I don't know what he's doing.
He's always teaching. We ran it.

1222
01:29:09.640 --> 01:29:15.600
He comes to the long Islan Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think

1223
01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:19.760
he works for north Shore now also, you know, always teaching. Yeah.

1224
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:24.039
The only other guy I got that
was Belisari. He had a cheesecake

1225
01:29:24.079 --> 01:29:26.680
in his hand and I said to
him, dude, I threw my piece

1226
01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:30.000
out. That was bid. He
goes, no, it's not. Guy.

1227
01:29:31.680 --> 01:29:35.920
I worked with Tony after we both
retired. Tony and I worked for

1228
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:41.800
teaching. We worked for the government
basically. Again, that's my second government

1229
01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:45.000
job. That's the other job that
was or bomb. What were you doing

1230
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:50.319
with the guys that this was the
pre positioned equipment program right by Congress.

1231
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:57.439
That's every little thing right there that
I just said. That heard that name

1232
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:04.800
his name was Richie Ting. Every
used to call him every little ting something

1233
01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:11.119
something wrong. I worked with that
Garrett Lingren Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1234
01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:15.640
a bunch of bunch of guys from
up there from Rescue four. Because the

1235
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:19.079
job we had that was a different
job working for the government. We put

1236
01:30:19.159 --> 01:30:24.760
the tools and equipment for the next
nine to eleven together and we had about

1237
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:29.880
ten different spots all over the country
designated with two tractor trailers. You had

1238
01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.319
to have has matt you have had
had to have your CDLs, so we

1239
01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:38.319
had to all go get those.
But Eddie Beeban was the boss. I

1240
01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:42.039
don't know if you know Eddie.
He was from Rescue three. Eddie came

1241
01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:45.960
over to help us work with Jack
Fanning when we were at haz matt Ops.

1242
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:49.640
But we all retired and Eddie Knwolly's
contractors and he said, hey,

1243
01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:55.359
we're making a unit. You want
to work And that's what actually between after

1244
01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:57.640
nine to eleven and stuff. I
said, yeah, you know what,

1245
01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:00.920
I'll take it, and then I
realized the again, another five day a

1246
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:04.319
week job, you know, right, it's not you're not doing twenty fours.

1247
01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:08.000
But we ended up working at Camp
Smith. We had the unit up

1248
01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:11.119
there, so now I had to
travel from Long Island up to Camp Smith,

1249
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:16.399
we moved up to Middletown and then
we moved up to Bloomenberg. So

1250
01:31:16.720 --> 01:31:19.560
uh yeah, there was a lot
of traveling. So I ended up stopping

1251
01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:25.079
doing that, but I worked with
Tony bell Sarry teaching the radiation to remember

1252
01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:29.319
that whatever that class was out there, if it was Nevada test site,

1253
01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:32.520
and then you had a bunch of
traveling road shows, you'd go do too.

1254
01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:36.600
But we worked with a lot of
E. S U cops. Well

1255
01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:41.600
they brought us in and uh one
guy who headed that was an the s

1256
01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:45.680
U guy, So he brought in
his two uh fire guys and actually Mark

1257
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:51.439
Amerberg. You remember Mark. Yeah, that Mark was E. M.

1258
01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:55.760
S. But he ended up being
assistant commissioner at the shops, right,

1259
01:31:56.039 --> 01:32:00.560
yeah, he Marks another guy,
good guy worked with us and that stuff

1260
01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:03.680
too. I tried to get let
us in the shops so we can do

1261
01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:05.960
a show from the shops, but
I don't know. He said yes,

1262
01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:11.600
but it never happened. He retired
recently, so yeah, yeah, yeah,

1263
01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:15.520
so you finally get asigned the hazmat
in y e. See, Now

1264
01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:21.239
that was another one I knew Chief
guancy a little bit through my uncle angel

1265
01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:30.760
He was good friends with my uncle
Angela, you know. And uh,

1266
01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:32.800
it was always like a running thing
we do. I go to golf animals

1267
01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:35.479
with them and stuff. And I
said, Chief, when am I?

1268
01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:38.880
When are you going to assign me
to has Matt? I put the paper

1269
01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:42.000
in like three years ago. Just
don't worry about it, you'll get there.

1270
01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:44.720
Don't worry about it. You're there, like I'm not worried about it,

1271
01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:46.000
but just like to have it on
the order. You don't want to

1272
01:32:46.039 --> 01:32:50.760
be detailed forever, you know.
And then finally he he stand it's on

1273
01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:56.279
the order and it comes out has
Mad, I said, Chief, there's

1274
01:32:56.279 --> 01:32:59.960
no such thing as has Mad.
There was there was, I don't think

1275
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:02.359
there was. Yeah, there was. Has Matt Operations just started, you

1276
01:33:02.439 --> 01:33:05.680
know, but there was has Matt
one or has Matt operations? Right?

1277
01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:11.239
What is it? And it just
that's all I'm assigned to. His sounds

1278
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:15.960
pretty typical there, Lou, Yeah, has Mad right, Oh, there's

1279
01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:19.840
no doubt always hanging around that.
So I worked a lot back and forth

1280
01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:24.680
between has met Ops and has met
one mostly has met Ops now, ye

1281
01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:29.520
know. And uh, but uh, you know, I felt I did

1282
01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:32.800
a good job there, especially starting
it too. Has Met was its own

1283
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:36.920
entity, right. We had guys
like Scotty Kershoffer. When I first got

1284
01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:42.359
there, he was again another Halem
firefighter. But I walked into the has

1285
01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:45.199
Mat, uh when it was just
has Met in two eighty eight, you

1286
01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:48.079
know, engine, I see this
guy in the back in civilian clothes and

1287
01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:51.359
he's he's doing all the cylinders,
And I said, maybe he's a civilian,

1288
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:55.520
because no, that's Scotty. He
doesn't put his uniform on anymore.

1289
01:33:56.600 --> 01:34:02.239
He was so eccentric, like how
many birds need to die for the seven

1290
01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:05.640
gas, you know, for you
to figure out stuff? And when the

1291
01:34:05.720 --> 01:34:10.840
pulpe was visiting us, he just
got us the I think that was the

1292
01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:15.319
APD two thousand if you want way, yes, of course, the original

1293
01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:16.880
one, you know, and uh
like it was like this big right,

1294
01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:20.239
Yeah, it was either a matter
of a bunch of canaries, you know,

1295
01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:24.439
and uh and bring it to the
site to see if it was working.

1296
01:34:25.159 --> 01:34:28.560
But Scotty ran that place for a
while, with a lot of help

1297
01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:30.920
from Dennis Scalzo. When he got
there, you know, he had his

1298
01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:35.560
own lab stuff, you know,
working and uh. But then uh,

1299
01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:42.119
then it evolved has Met operations came
into effect with Chief Heron and then uh

1300
01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:45.760
so then that's when Haron grabbed me
to go over to has Matt operations at

1301
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:49.960
the Navy yard. I really don't
want to go, but I just basically

1302
01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:54.880
ordered to go, even though I
was the fourth lieutenant, you know.

1303
01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:58.000
But all right, I'm not going
to argue for a while. And then

1304
01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:01.960
then Chief Fanning came in. Chief
Hearing I think either got promoted or went

1305
01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:06.359
to Staten Island, and uh,
and I became you know, I went

1306
01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:11.720
over with Chief Fanning or stayed there. I said, and like Louis said,

1307
01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:15.199
who's this guy coming in? Jack
Fanning? Okay, seemed like a

1308
01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:18.840
very very nice man. You know. Uh, he got things going.

1309
01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:25.039
We actually hired a civilian to be
the secretary, and that was Rachel.

1310
01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:31.840
That's Rachel. So we you know, we there's Rachel. She's still there.

1311
01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:40.119
Everybody knows Rachel. Ye good,
good girl, My wife are close.

1312
01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:46.479
Hey, leave her alone. Looks
like my daughter coming in there,

1313
01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:51.920
you know, guy, leave her
alone. But you know, so we

1314
01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:56.560
started getting things going. We got
more and more equipment, and again Eddie

1315
01:35:56.600 --> 01:36:00.960
Beeban came in. He was actually
there to him and Hugo Herald both rescue

1316
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:04.840
three guys and Jack knew them from
Harlem and all that area and rescue and

1317
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:09.439
uh Jack worked in the rescues too, I'm sure I know we did.

1318
01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:16.239
But he brought them over and uh, Eddie got Eddie was like Klinger maybe

1319
01:36:16.399 --> 01:36:20.720
you know in mash anything you needed, and we need to tractor trailers.

1320
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:30.079
He got military. No, Peter
Bilt. This Peter BILTI tractor that was

1321
01:36:30.760 --> 01:36:34.640
you know beautiful and uh that was
the main trailer for FEMA for a while.

1322
01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:42.800
And so we got yeah, well
we had a paint, repaint,

1323
01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:45.239
trailers and everything and you know,
we worked over there, so it wasn't

1324
01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:49.359
too bad. But so but then
we end up going to the Brooklyn,

1325
01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:55.039
uh to Randall's Island and right,
well, well the big thing was planning

1326
01:36:55.119 --> 01:37:03.680
for the year two thousand, the
computers, you know, and you know

1327
01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:13.760
what happened worked out fine hat y
two k right right matrix. Yeah,

1328
01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:17.600
so we went over but we got
finally got a building at Randall's Island,

1329
01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:21.279
you know, and uh and ended
up, uh, you know, working

1330
01:37:21.319 --> 01:37:25.520
out pretty good. Hey, look, you know what I wanted to ask

1331
01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:28.359
you, what was it? What
was the story? With the car accident

1332
01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:30.600
again with my son. Yeah,
I don't remember the whole thing. You

1333
01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:32.880
got to bring me up to.
Yeah, I'm glad you reminded me because

1334
01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:38.359
my son was working in uh em
em E M S at the I think

1335
01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:44.840
was a battalion right there. It
is Mike the five four over on Maurice.

1336
01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:48.760
I guess the station over there two
is it a two week for six

1337
01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:51.800
thank you? The four six E
M S. Right, So he was

1338
01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:56.399
working. I think he was coming
off a night tour, uh, because

1339
01:37:56.399 --> 01:37:59.159
it must have been at one or
two in the morning. It was coming

1340
01:37:59.199 --> 01:38:03.319
home now is uh was envoy so
it was a pretty big car. And

1341
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:10.039
uh he ends up getting a flat. So where's his spare tire? It's

1342
01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:13.359
at home, so he calls me, now, a dad, I need

1343
01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:15.920
a spare tire. Well, isn't
in the car now it's uh, it's

1344
01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:19.279
a home so I'm gonna go on
the highway. He well, yeah,

1345
01:38:19.319 --> 01:38:24.199
he got the flat on the highway
and it's right on the l I E.

1346
01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:28.600
And then there's ah, it's where
that divider divided the service road with

1347
01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:33.479
the concrete over there. Yeah,
and coming I guess away from Russ Street

1348
01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:36.880
over that way. Right, and
uh, he calls me up, so

1349
01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:40.239
I'm gonna bring him. Now the
he pulls all the way, he puts

1350
01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:43.439
his flares up. We all that's
good stuff. And uh, I'm gonna

1351
01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:46.760
bring him the spare tire and uh
and actually I got my scanner on,

1352
01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:50.800
so I'm listening to the uh you
know, Queen's coming in and I hear

1353
01:38:50.920 --> 01:38:57.079
a now overturned car on the l
I E. And I'm like, ship,

1354
01:38:57.159 --> 01:39:01.399
what happened? Well? It end
up that bunch of m drunk guy

1355
01:39:01.520 --> 01:39:08.239
driving the car sees the flares and
like morphs to the light. They head

1356
01:39:08.319 --> 01:39:14.039
right towards his car. He jumps
over the concrete barrier. Their car hits

1357
01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:18.720
his car and flips the I think
flips his his car and now it's flipped

1358
01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:21.479
over. So now I'm like,
and I passed it? Or did I

1359
01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:26.600
pass it? I think, Uh, I'm not sure. Did I talk

1360
01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:30.359
to you, Louis? I think, yeah, you called me first before

1361
01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:32.760
we got the run. I think
I gave right, Yeah, we gave

1362
01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:38.159
it a verbal and we raced over
there. I remember that came. It

1363
01:39:38.319 --> 01:39:41.079
was already. He said that they
already got the call and it was already.

1364
01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:44.479
Louis was saying it was amazing that
he lived through the Oh my god.

1365
01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:46.319
And then when he told me who
he was, you know, he

1366
01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:50.680
was sticking up. But uh when
you know, we blocked the traffic because

1367
01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:55.600
I think his car was here,
the other car was over there, so

1368
01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:58.680
it was kind of spread out.
There were cars still flying through the middle

1369
01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:03.119
of the Again, he had angels
watching over him, you know. Yeah,

1370
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:08.399
he's got thrown out of another car, didn't he. Yeah. Uh,

1371
01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:12.720
he had a cheap He was going
to a a call with the valleys

1372
01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:16.880
and he got hit, you know, going to the firehouse, right call,

1373
01:40:17.079 --> 01:40:20.479
right, He was in his cheep
Wrangler. Yeah, and uh,

1374
01:40:20.920 --> 01:40:25.039
luckily, I mean that didn't turn
over. It had a really it's a

1375
01:40:25.079 --> 01:40:29.039
big heavy cheep, you know,
wide tires, everything raised. But uh,

1376
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:32.439
he ended up working his way out
of that one. And and now

1377
01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:36.239
he's in uh Nashville Fire Department.
Oh is he? I didn't even know

1378
01:40:36.319 --> 01:40:42.399
that. Yeah, yeah, that's
that's their battalion, Battalion eight eight.

1379
01:40:43.279 --> 01:40:46.159
I guess that's what they call their
battalion who's working out they're still recruits.

1380
01:40:46.239 --> 01:40:51.159
I guess they're called their recruits.
He did three months. MIC's in the

1381
01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:55.359
back there. He did three months
of em T training. So they're all

1382
01:40:55.439 --> 01:41:00.000
certified EMTs and now they're they're going
through the suppression part of their training.

1383
01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:04.800
He's getting on right now. He's
like, yeah, still there. They

1384
01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:11.039
worked their guys asses off. I
give them credit. A couple more of

1385
01:41:11.079 --> 01:41:13.479
those guys. Looks like I gotta
put down the hot dogs a little bit.

1386
01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:17.600
How many how many guys in Nashville
have now? You know, but

1387
01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:21.880
I'm not sure the amount of guys. But I'm not sure. It's got

1388
01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:26.159
to be growing. I would imagine
that. I know the place is growing.

1389
01:41:26.199 --> 01:41:29.439
Big Mike was telling me, you
turn around all the time. They're

1390
01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:33.239
building skyscrapers. No ship, they
work there, man. Yeah, so

1391
01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:38.279
uh there's different the times. Who
work fast. I guess more work like

1392
01:41:38.399 --> 01:41:41.239
me. I like here, you
know they get their jobs. Yeah,

1393
01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:46.159
but uh yeah, so hopefully January. I think sometime in January because graduation

1394
01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:50.560
must be happy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad that's what he wanted to

1395
01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:54.439
do, you know, because he
aged out over here. Yeah you know,

1396
01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:57.600
did you ever go down there?
A lot? You go to see?

1397
01:41:58.119 --> 01:42:01.399
I did go down there to help
them move. So so he just

1398
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:04.640
did this or he just did they
call him up. Hey, you got

1399
01:42:04.760 --> 01:42:08.359
to be here in three weeks.
It's like, remember getting the call for

1400
01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:14.520
the job. But now this guy's
got to move from Holy Elmore to Nashville.

1401
01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.800
So we got a town and not
one kid. Right, he's got

1402
01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:20.800
a little boy. Yeah, cute
kid. I love that. Every time

1403
01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:24.920
he coached the firehouse. I love
that kid. Yeah. So well,

1404
01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:27.680
really quick, tell us about what
it was like when the squad first came

1405
01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:31.119
there. You were like these fucking
douche baes. I know there was a

1406
01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:35.119
little gonna be a little rubbing around, a little friction, but well I

1407
01:42:35.159 --> 01:42:39.560
didn't know that, but there kind
of was, right, young guys had

1408
01:42:39.640 --> 01:42:44.199
some senior guys like Eric Allen came
over, right, who else Hank did?

1409
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:48.159
Hang him over? Then we got
a picture Hank. Yeah, gotta

1410
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:53.000
love Hank. Who doesn't love Hank. Yeah, that's why I said,

1411
01:42:53.039 --> 01:42:55.000
I said, this is this is
the one I gotta put up here.

1412
01:42:55.119 --> 01:42:58.119
Yeah. He's always there for nine
to eleven, always there for the guys,

1413
01:42:58.479 --> 01:43:02.439
you know, uh Nikki Carrado,
God bless him. Yeah. Nick

1414
01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:05.880
does a good job for at N. I remember him as a fireman,

1415
01:43:05.880 --> 01:43:10.600
a young guy to eighty eight.
That's like, that's like comparing like Mark

1416
01:43:10.640 --> 01:43:15.000
Cocarola. You know Mark with me
in two seventeen. Now he's you know,

1417
01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:19.079
he's up there too. Yeah,
yeah, uh but you know what,

1418
01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:23.039
but hey, you guys, you
had Dennis Murphy, you had Vinnie

1419
01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:26.560
young Garo who I worked with both
in you know, over Are one eleven

1420
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:30.800
to fourteen. I was studying with
them for a little while, you know,

1421
01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:33.840
all good guys. So they were
going to straighten you guys out.

1422
01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:38.119
I guess they did, or did
they? Yeah? They did? We

1423
01:43:38.279 --> 01:43:41.119
well, we upset the Apple card
over there a little bit because I've heard

1424
01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:45.319
a couple of good stories and eighty
eight was not really a go getting placed.

1425
01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:46.560
And now you had a whole bunch
of young guys looking to go to

1426
01:43:46.680 --> 01:43:49.600
fire all the time. Listen to
the scanners all the time. Yeah,

1427
01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:54.880
you know, I remember Neil Yank
like again, another one of those guys

1428
01:43:54.920 --> 01:43:58.119
who saw a lot of fire,
right. I know, it was a

1429
01:43:58.159 --> 01:44:00.880
big volley. He was kind of
at the tail end of his career,

1430
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:03.319
you know, so he was kind
of like get out of here, stop

1431
01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:06.800
that, you know, like you
know, but but I became close with

1432
01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:10.960
him too. I remember, you
all just wanted to do his his Civil

1433
01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:17.439
War stuff him dominant Recreation doesn't.
He still doesn't. He's awesome, that's

1434
01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:21.680
a funny Guy's a good guy.
Man. Yeah, I think we can't.

1435
01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:28.039
We can't a good crew there,
you know. Yeah, and the

1436
01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:30.439
names on that on nine eleven,
you know, you just you know what,

1437
01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:34.279
Joey Hunter, and it haunts you
know, And I don't have to

1438
01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:38.119
tell you guys, it just haunts
me all the time thinking of these guys,

1439
01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:42.239
you know, and both these companies. You know, guys, I

1440
01:44:42.279 --> 01:44:45.760
think, what are we talking about
this? Yeah? Right, original the

1441
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:51.039
original drawing. Yeah, so,
uh, Bobby Hunter made those stickers,

1442
01:44:51.039 --> 01:44:55.479
I believe if I had to put
on the rig, yeah, Bobby Hunter

1443
01:44:56.119 --> 01:45:00.119
came out and came out gorgeous.
But what else? I mean, all

1444
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:02.399
the squads have a little bit of
problems, right, I mean, you

1445
01:45:02.479 --> 01:45:05.319
know, a little friction here and
there. But hey, that's I think

1446
01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:14.479
were the only us to lose right
with jobs? You know, Yeah,

1447
01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:16.479
I think we were the only squad
that was in with another company though,

1448
01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:19.119
right, roof, I think everybody
else was a single leg. Yes,

1449
01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:28.000
Anally, I'm sorry stand for sending
Corrado, de Volio and Rofrano. There

1450
01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:30.479
was some growing page with Hasbat.
That's fine, you know, but YE

1451
01:45:30.479 --> 01:45:33.800
had guys like you know, I
Helpie who We were putting scanners in the

1452
01:45:33.960 --> 01:45:39.119
fucking bunk room. And I think
I think out of everything, like when

1453
01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:44.479
I think about Neil and Yank he
he could have strangled a Helpi at any

1454
01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:46.920
time. You know, you know
all those guys. That's another man.

1455
01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:49.159
I worked with Lee the Father,
you know, yeah right, yeah,

1456
01:45:49.560 --> 01:45:53.560
Rescue Too, and yeah, not
much, but I knew of them,

1457
01:45:53.600 --> 01:45:56.000
and hey, you know these guys, you know, I when I got

1458
01:45:56.039 --> 01:45:59.720
there, looked up at these guys
and Rescue Too. You know, money

1459
01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:02.680
we just you saying all of those
people that you knew. We wouldn't even

1460
01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:04.840
know that you knew any of those
guys, you know what I mean at

1461
01:46:04.880 --> 01:46:09.439
that time. Meanwhile, you had
a career life was on at one eleven

1462
01:46:10.119 --> 01:46:12.479
and even in two seventeen, some
of the senior guys, you know,

1463
01:46:12.640 --> 01:46:15.840
and and that whole area one twenty
four, I, in fact, because

1464
01:46:15.840 --> 01:46:18.640
I knew, you know, was
with my uncle all the time. You

1465
01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:23.439
just knew though these guys. I'd
caught pool in with these guys and my

1466
01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:27.680
cousin Joey from Too eighteen with carpool
that was another good house, another sleep

1467
01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:30.479
of house that you know, Uh, no one knew existed unless you worked

1468
01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:34.520
there to m keen on Hot Street. Yes, yeah, in Bushwick.

1469
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:39.439
You know we have a picture of
somebody from two eighteen and you have that's

1470
01:46:39.520 --> 01:46:44.079
my cousin Joe Hatzelman, right,
and he passed away from nine to eleven,

1471
01:46:44.359 --> 01:46:48.439
uh cancer. Yeah, and actually
we were very close. We were

1472
01:46:48.520 --> 01:46:53.000
like brothers and uh we did a
lot of stuff, played softball together.

1473
01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:58.640
We worked at his father's deli together
for years before I got on the job.

1474
01:46:59.039 --> 01:47:01.199
Wow, young sixty too. Yeah, you have another picture I think

1475
01:47:03.560 --> 01:47:08.479
of this team. No, there''s
anything from two eighteen. That's it.

1476
01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:15.960
Seventeen horrible horrible stuff. Yeah,
but uh you know that good times.

1477
01:47:16.239 --> 01:47:21.199
You've done good there, lieutenant right
back. Yeah. I had a great

1478
01:47:21.279 --> 01:47:25.960
career, you know, do I
we'd all I think we'd all say we'd

1479
01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:28.720
do it all over again, but
not with the bones we have now.

1480
01:47:29.119 --> 01:47:31.960
No. I like before on the
pre show Guns, I'm like, hey,

1481
01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:33.640
Gons, what did you do today? He's like, oh, I

1482
01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:36.840
was, Uh we were teaching trench
and everything. I was like, holy

1483
01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:41.239
shit, I'm like I remember teaching
trench. I'm like, did they still

1484
01:47:41.319 --> 01:47:45.680
use the webbing to uh tighten up
the couplings and everything. He's like,

1485
01:47:45.319 --> 01:47:47.560
we don't do that anymore. I'm
like I used to say, get the

1486
01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:50.439
hell out of here with this ship. You know, it's never gonna happen

1487
01:47:50.520 --> 01:47:54.039
none of that stuff that we talk. Can you imagine climbing down to a

1488
01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:59.920
trench. I can't get up the
toilet bowl and I the only trench shop

1489
01:48:00.239 --> 01:48:02.800
came across. A quick story.
We got to call for a Maine a

1490
01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:08.359
gas main break in some place in
Queen's and we mad, you know,

1491
01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:10.960
met meet the chief. Hey,
chief, what could we do for you?

1492
01:48:11.600 --> 01:48:14.319
Well, there's a guy in the
ditch over here? Could you talk

1493
01:48:14.359 --> 01:48:18.319
to him? We go over there
and this thing is hissing and spitting up

1494
01:48:18.399 --> 01:48:26.600
gas under high pressure. It's Glenn
Harris, right, and I'm like,

1495
01:48:26.800 --> 01:48:30.479
I ain't telling him anything. That's
the number one guy I want coming for

1496
01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:33.039
me. Actually, yeah, right. But the reason you've got there,

1497
01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:39.000
I said, Chief, that's a
that's up to you. You know I

1498
01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:42.000
think that we're gonna I says,
has Matt got there? We broken the

1499
01:48:42.079 --> 01:48:45.039
teams and we went in to meet
her. The houses that were might have

1500
01:48:45.119 --> 01:48:49.680
gotten you know that. But so
that was the only trench job that I

1501
01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:53.800
ever went to you, and of
course he was in there. That's class.

1502
01:48:53.880 --> 01:48:57.920
Yeah, the guy you want right, Yeah, you know, I

1503
01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:00.079
know Bobby Hunter is still throwing jams
there. I had no problem with the

1504
01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:03.680
new engine. Guys, look at
him, he still still has didn't They

1505
01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:09.439
talk about engine goes? Right?
Yeah? Yeah? How long did it

1506
01:49:09.520 --> 01:49:14.039
take to change that engine to squad? Right? Timmy Gerry actually changed it

1507
01:49:15.319 --> 01:49:24.560
squad? Did you just say squad? Yeah? His voice all right.

1508
01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:28.560
We talked about the car accident.
Got to get that done. But yeah,

1509
01:49:28.640 --> 01:49:32.479
look at that picture. Yeah,
I mean and actually I have another

1510
01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:35.479
picture, but I didn't. I
couldn't find it. I was doing the

1511
01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:41.479
asmat ops program and at the Navy
yard and the marine lieutenant came over.

1512
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:45.039
I forget who that was, and
took Michael when he was a little guy,

1513
01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:47.920
took him on the boat and uh, you know, was driving by

1514
01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:51.680
this and I got one of me
and Michael with the towers. I don't

1515
01:49:51.680 --> 01:49:55.119
know where the hell it is.
We were on the front end of the

1516
01:49:55.159 --> 01:50:04.279
boat of the marine six rack On
family. That's amazing. Even though Nicky's

1517
01:50:04.279 --> 01:50:10.479
got a couple, eh, John, he he did some good work John.

1518
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:13.600
You know, I'll tell you what
John worked over there. He was

1519
01:50:13.640 --> 01:50:16.920
a quiet guy. Guys used to
break his his chops. Uh. We

1520
01:50:17.279 --> 01:50:20.720
were the two pollops you know in
the in the group, Wellwski too,

1521
01:50:21.199 --> 01:50:26.920
yeah, uh but John Uh was
a good man. I said I'd take

1522
01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:30.720
ten John's over you guys. Yeah. And he was rich. Probably no

1523
01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:34.520
problem telling you about how much property
he owned out in the Hamptons, Hampton's

1524
01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:41.680
upstate. Yeah, you know property
in Hampton is at least a sergeant or

1525
01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:44.560
a lieutenant on the p D.
Is he still around now? He just

1526
01:50:44.640 --> 01:50:48.079
passed away. John passed away last
year, just two years ago, something

1527
01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:51.800
like that. Actually, probably during
the winter we went over some queens over

1528
01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:57.199
On I think it was over On, you know, near the house for

1529
01:50:57.319 --> 01:51:01.439
his wake. Yeah, used to
comfort the firehouse. Yeah. John retired

1530
01:51:01.479 --> 01:51:05.199
a little bit, yeah early,
but yeah, good man, John,

1531
01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:12.279
Lieutenant rye back. Thanks for coming
on the show. Great stories, right,

1532
01:51:13.439 --> 01:51:15.520
I told you two hours goes like
this. Look, you're right,

1533
01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:19.880
you're right that we were not done. You don't know what time it is?

1534
01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:23.960
Right? Time is the time?
I know what time, know what

1535
01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:27.279
time it is? I do all
right, I did too it is time

1536
01:51:27.520 --> 01:51:38.720
for the old school chip of the
day, the day day. All right,

1537
01:51:38.840 --> 01:51:42.680
kids do it? Hey, guys, I don't have too much on

1538
01:51:42.760 --> 01:51:47.560
the tips as far as like lat
of placements, stretching hose lines. What

1539
01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:53.039
what what I got to talk about
is is the response is how you guys

1540
01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:57.279
get ready for a response. When
I used to be in Brooklyn, we

1541
01:51:57.399 --> 01:52:01.399
had engines all the way around us
and you needed very quick turnout. Nowadays,

1542
01:52:02.199 --> 01:52:04.680
and the chaulf is you need a
great chauffeur. You need a guy

1543
01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:10.399
who knows the area. You need
to know, not only around because anybody

1544
01:52:10.520 --> 01:52:14.840
can probably look on Google and get
a map and it's pretty close to it,

1545
01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:17.840
you know, if you're in a
far district. But you got to

1546
01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:23.079
know your building construction. I still
I work once in a while. I

1547
01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:27.439
do some pre planning for fire departments
out here on the island. I do

1548
01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:34.279
some inspections. And building construction is
changing. There's a lot more architecture work

1549
01:52:34.359 --> 01:52:42.159
being done, newer, newer materials
being used, electrical plants being put in,

1550
01:52:42.840 --> 01:52:45.600
batteries being put in, and you
really got to get out and know

1551
01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:51.439
your buildings. I don't know what
much more I could say, but just

1552
01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:57.680
to be cognizant. Uh, you
know, just learn your buildings and uh.

1553
01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:01.279
One other thing that when I was
covering a lot, I tried to

1554
01:53:01.439 --> 01:53:06.199
remember It's very simple. Maybe not
be fire matic, but try to remember

1555
01:53:06.279 --> 01:53:10.199
the guys you're working with, Like
you get a detail, remember their names,

1556
01:53:10.840 --> 01:53:14.399
remember their faces, who they are. Maybe they're they're in a neighboring

1557
01:53:14.479 --> 01:53:17.880
company, company next to you.
Uh, now you'll know when they work

1558
01:53:17.920 --> 01:53:20.760
with you a couple of times in
your house, you'll know who they are.

1559
01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:26.920
That's really about it. I'm not
going to tell you how to stretch

1560
01:53:26.960 --> 01:53:31.039
a line or like I said,
how many you know hose lines that drab

1561
01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:35.439
off the rig, what size hose
you're going to be using. But you

1562
01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:41.319
know, just I feel strongly about
the building construction and types of construction you

1563
01:53:41.439 --> 01:53:45.239
want to look into because one day
you're going to be in there. You

1564
01:53:45.319 --> 01:53:48.439
want to know what's going on right
that you can't. That's about it.

1565
01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:55.079
I'm not gonna anything else. You
know, every time there was a there

1566
01:53:55.159 --> 01:53:58.920
was a lot of building construction in
the last you know, fifteen years,

1567
01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:01.239
right, and everyone in the city
right when from two thousand and eight,

1568
01:54:01.399 --> 01:54:05.119
right, it's crazy. If they
were building it, you know, they

1569
01:54:05.199 --> 01:54:11.319
had the metal joys, they had
you know, the trust constructions, all

1570
01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:14.479
that stuff that we never saw in
the city. Yeah, if they were

1571
01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:16.119
doing it, I have to say. That's one thing that we did was

1572
01:54:16.199 --> 01:54:19.000
we did a lot of sids on
those buildings because, like you said,

1573
01:54:19.199 --> 01:54:21.840
ten years from now, twenty years
from now, you know, you can't

1574
01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:26.840
see what's in there. And I
know on Long Island each depends upon the

1575
01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:30.000
township. But they're trying to put
up stickers like whether it's a trust roof

1576
01:54:30.159 --> 01:54:33.520
trust really? Oh yeah, you
know, And guys, that's what I

1577
01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:36.680
mean. Look for these signs,
look for hey, doesn't have a gas

1578
01:54:36.760 --> 01:54:40.479
mean, you know, where's the
gas lines? And just get into that

1579
01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:43.399
stuff. You know, I know
it's not it's not the greatest thing is

1580
01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:46.880
putting the fire out. You know, they're going to search up but not

1581
01:54:47.079 --> 01:54:50.479
sexy, no, bith. The
construction is going to dictate your tactics.

1582
01:54:50.520 --> 01:54:55.439
Man, that's it, right,
you know, especially the gonzo's got an

1583
01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:59.920
old school tip of the day.
Holy shit, We've had this discussion of

1584
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:02.000
couple of times. Remember, get
up down here you have concrete buildings,

1585
01:55:02.039 --> 01:55:06.039
man, versus yes up there?
So all right, all right, so

1586
01:55:06.119 --> 01:55:11.880
we got a couple of the things. Thanks lou Uh, thank you guys

1587
01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:15.439
for having me on. Yeah,
hold on, we take care of all

1588
01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:20.079
right. Matt Krushia did say Papaveros. Yes, that is the funeral home

1589
01:55:20.119 --> 01:55:24.880
that John was in. That was
also the funeral home that John Gotti was

1590
01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:28.479
laid out in. Oh uh,
but before Ganza. We still have to

1591
01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:31.680
do the old school say that.
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1592
01:55:31.720 --> 01:55:35.760
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1593
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firefighter into the job worth his salt. Wow, that one plucked it.

1600
01:56:18.239 --> 01:56:20.960
That's not bad, brilliant. I
don't really like to ever give you any

1601
01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:28.880
credit on any of that. But
the sheet that they but dis but it's

1602
01:56:28.920 --> 01:56:31.479
gonna have a little help. That's
I have to give him credit because he

1603
01:56:31.560 --> 01:56:35.279
could have took the credit I got
about, I got about, I got

1604
01:56:35.319 --> 01:56:40.239
about. Give him credit correct,
Kevin spoke well at the one of the

1605
01:56:40.359 --> 01:56:45.399
nine to eleven UH memorials we had
a while back. I remember that,

1606
01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:48.800
Yes, but I give him credit
for that. So we're gonna give Roofi

1607
01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:51.319
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1608
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1609
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We are gonna have ridiculous content on
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1610
01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:01.479
have to go trade shows to hear
the classes. The classes are going to

1611
01:57:01.520 --> 01:57:05.439
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1612
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1616
01:57:25.399 --> 01:57:30.319
give me my picture please? All
right? So this is on Wednesday in

1617
01:57:30.359 --> 01:57:34.039
New York City, firefighter donated bone
marrow met the five year old Texas boy

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who received a life saving gift,
Cristiano Free Goalie, ran into the arms

1619
01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:46.560
of firefighter Ryan McLain during a ceremony
in Brooklyn. The kid's parents also gave

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01:57:46.640 --> 01:57:50.000
McLean a huge hug. He had
been diagnosed with a rare disease that only

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01:57:50.039 --> 01:57:55.840
a bone marrow transplant could have cured. And that's entined seventy nine of thirty

1622
01:57:55.840 --> 01:58:01.000
seven twenty seven battalions. I remember
Polypatzos from two eighty eight did that then.

1623
01:58:01.279 --> 01:58:04.680
Uh, you know, there was
always a list at the medical office

1624
01:58:04.720 --> 01:58:08.840
of the guys that did that,
and uh, you know, I'm sure

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01:58:08.880 --> 01:58:12.680
there's a lot of people that are
alive today. So outstanding job, brother.

1626
01:58:13.199 --> 01:58:15.359
Yeah, and that's a very it's
a very painful thing that these guys

1627
01:58:15.399 --> 01:58:18.760
though, I hear that. Sh
It's very painful, very painful. So

1628
01:58:18.840 --> 01:58:23.680
with these guys to give as a
fire fire to give in their personal life

1629
01:58:23.720 --> 01:58:28.359
like that, kudos to the brothers
man, that's fantastic. What else you

1630
01:58:28.439 --> 01:58:31.199
got rough, that's a kid.
I thought we had the fire five bills

1631
01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:33.720
night. Go ahead, John,
you're doing that all right. We have

1632
01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:39.600
the second firefighter that has passed from
the Baltimore job. The other day,

1633
01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:44.520
Lieutenant Ronaldo Engine Company forty six and
Coup's going to give him the five bills.

1634
01:58:45.319 --> 01:59:01.840
Rest in peace, brother h stay
safe out there and roof. You

1635
01:59:01.880 --> 01:59:04.479
don't know anything about that anymore,
but we still praying for you, guys.

1636
01:59:06.079 --> 01:59:10.920
Lieutenant right back either he likes to
again. Thank you, guys,

1637
01:59:11.479 --> 01:59:14.359
Oh, thank you, great show. Nice to your wife for making that

1638
01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:18.880
little man k for you on the
last minute. Notice too good looks bro,

1639
01:59:19.079 --> 01:59:24.680
She's she's a keeper. Good feel
and listen, few other bests.

1640
01:59:24.840 --> 01:59:29.560
Listen. We had one guy he
got the book, one guy who had

1641
01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:32.279
five he got five people. I
guess you don't want this book for free.

1642
01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:35.720
All you gotta do is get five
people to subscribe to the YouTube and

1643
01:59:35.720 --> 01:59:39.560
I'll put you in a little drawing
and I'll pull it out. One guy,

1644
01:59:39.960 --> 01:59:42.640
get on if you want a free
copy of Chief Leaves book. It

1645
01:59:42.760 --> 01:59:45.159
was a great show. He did
you guys have a great guy excellent right

1646
01:59:45.439 --> 01:59:49.000
all right. On Monday, we
got Pete Mslinsky, great guy from two

1647
01:59:49.079 --> 01:59:53.439
seventy, big hockey fan. You
know what I say about that right down

1648
01:59:53.520 --> 02:00:05.560
zone, nobody cares what nobody cares
about hockey one and includes everyone. Guy,

1649
02:00:05.880 --> 02:00:11.720
Before I go I met a guy
who in in where was I?

1650
02:00:11.960 --> 02:00:15.880
Uh, he's doing some inspections.
And I met a gentleman in Jericho whose

1651
02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:18.760
son played with Greco. Is that
right? Yeah, we happen to be

1652
02:00:18.880 --> 02:00:25.520
talking about the father watches your show. This show, I said, Oh,

1653
02:00:25.720 --> 02:00:30.239
I'm gonna be on a Thursday night, so I did a fantastic jo.

1654
02:00:30.319 --> 02:00:33.279
Oh by the way, Uh,
Anthony just got uh he got picked

1655
02:00:33.319 --> 02:00:36.680
up by a team. He's gonna
be playing out overseas again. And uh,

1656
02:00:40.159 --> 02:00:42.640
you guy's gonna have a little scratch. Doesn't have to sell me his

1657
02:00:42.760 --> 02:00:49.399
roleing I fell. We'll see you
on Monday. Until then, stay low

1658
02:00:49.439 --> 02:00:53.159
and go all right, everybody will
see it the big one. Thanks again,

1659
02:00:53.239 --> 02:00:56.600
Lou, you got you guys.
Thanks everyone, have a good night.