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I on the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.

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Jay Gonzalez is out again today.
That's why we have Matt Reynoldson former the

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FKVOA, and we have our guy
Ryan. Don't screw up, Brian.

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We need you. I will your
job. Your job is dependent on it.

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Welcome everybody. Hey, we hope
you get some calls from you,

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guys, first time callers. We'd
love to hear from you if you've listened

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to us a while now. I
know Jay is out, so we can't

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fight with you, but I'm here, and i'm Matt here as well.

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I think Steve's more likely to fight
with you than I am. But yeah,

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yeah, yeah, you're the nice
guy in this room. Jay's the

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bad guy. I'm the goody in
this room. When he's here. I

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want to ask you, so you're
gonna go to game tomorrow? Right?

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Are you going to get tomorrow the
baseball game. Yeah, absolutely, regional

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opener between Arizona and Grand Canyon leading
off that regional. I think you're gonna

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be one of the fifth five thousand, maybe probably so now that you're not

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working temporarily, right, you're gonna
give me a fan. Do you look

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at the games differently? You know
what? I don't think I do necessarily.

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Obviously, you'll you know, you'll
enjoy things with your friends a little

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bit differently than you wouldn't press spot, but what do you mean, You'll

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have a drink? Yeah, pound, you know, pound the pound,

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the bleachers a little bit, maybe
chirp some batters from the other team.

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I kind of like doing that here
and there. But it's all in good

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fun. Mostly just because I cover
college athletics. I know what, I

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know what guys on both sides are
going through. So I carry a little

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slanted objectivity. But you know,
do I do? Uh? You know,

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get out there and just enjoy sitting
in the stands because you hear all

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that sort of stuff. You hear
the chatter, and it just makes it

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more of that baseball atmosphere as fun
as the press box with like Brian Peterson

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and Michael Levis Yeah, and I
was talking to as Brian Is in the

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locker or in the press box.
So so you look at it a little

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bit differently, enjoy yourself more.
Do you think about the questions? If

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you were now this would be a
first your first event? Were you not

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working? Oh? No, I've
been. I've been to several baseball games

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this year, even when I wasn't
when I was working, I went to

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I went to baseball games just as
fans on the weekend. But you know

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the capacity you're in now, kind
of just a casual observer. Yeah,

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So do you kind well you kind
of think maybe I want to ask this

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question. Maybe I want to ask
this question because I'm always thinking on a

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question basis, Steve, aren't you
you know, I mean, you've been

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to games as fans before professional teams
that you don't necessarily cover. What would

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I ask about this? How would
I approach this? Okay, here's what

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they need to do with this inning
for this inning that happened three innings later.

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You know, why didn't they do
this and why didn't they do that?

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Exactly? We're all analysts in in
our basis forum, and that's what

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comes with the character. So let
me go here even though we had nothing

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planned. Right, So so we
had Chip yesterday, good good baseball.

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I'm asking you, you're you're you're
you're young. So a good baseball strategist

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in what you've seen? Yeah,
is that what makes him good at this?

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I think so. And I think
he communicates with this player as well.

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I think one other thing is that
he's not afraid to move off things

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that aren't working. I think you
saw that with the addition of Kevin Vance

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this year as pitching coach and his
very unique philosophy that he brings to attacking

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every pitch. And when you hear
him talk about it, when you hear

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Advance talk about it, when you
hear Chip Hale talk about it, it's

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like, why isn't everybody else doing
this? Why isn't every other pitching staff

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in the country employing this philosophy?
Well, and one of the things he

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said yesterday was that Ken Diatty's going
to start. I mean, he's he's

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a change guy. Yep. If
one thing is not working, and he

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said the former number one is not
playing or pitching, well let's change it

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up a little bit. Yeah.
And he said in his press conference today

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before the before the first game of
the regional that actually cam Walty will be

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starting on Saturday, depending on It
doesn't even matter who they played, They're

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just they're sticking with cam Walty starting
on Saturday, moving Jackson Kent down to

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Sunday after he's struggled in his last
few out of is the Friday night starter,

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and I think that's okay, And
I think that gives Jackson Kent,

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you know, a couple other days
to if you work out of the maybe

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work on some different things, refocus
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You hope it's a Sunday game to
advance and not a Sunday elimination game.

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But regional this loaded like it is
with Dallas Baptist, West Virginia and Grand

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Canyon, Arizona's going to have their
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a really interesting weekend of baseball at
High Corbett. Yeah, no question.

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And the number two on Saturday again, is the number two on Saturday is

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Dallas Baptists. No, no,
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the picture a picture. Yeah,
the number of number two Saturday is cam

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Walty and he had a fantastic game
against USC. There was a couple of

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miss misplays, and that that's what
got him under the three, got him

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down three zero. What really stuck
out to me in his start against USC

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is it is really tough to continue
to go out there and deal when you're

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going up against a pitcher as hot
as USC's starting pitcher was in that game.

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Ioki was throwing flames in that game
and really confounding Arizona batters. We've

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seen it happen at several points this
season where they're prone to the strikeout a

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little bit. That was certainly the
case against USC. And Walt's sitting there

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in the top half of every inning
watching that and watching that and watching that

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and watching him work and doing an
exceptional job from the USC side of things.

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But he just went out there.
You know, he knew there he

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had left some runs on the board. He knew there were some defensive areas

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that caused that. But he went
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up those innings and so Arizona could
eventually come back, chip away and win

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games like they have all season.
Right, he held them close and eventually

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he broke that. Well, we
talked about that with Chip yesterday, which

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which was a great move. They
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here, base hit there, and
Cam's the only one who hold the held

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down that Oregon State offense, which
was by far the best in the back

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twelve this year. Yeah, they
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to make a deep postseason run,
hosting their own regional up in Corvallis.

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Yep. So if you want to
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one six seven four four zero if
you were in just did in the podcast

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from yesterday, it hasn't been posted
yet. I guess Jay is enjoying the

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beach a little bit too much over
there. I would be in Rocky Point

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too, I guess we So we'll
try. We'll track him down and see

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what's up with that. He did
post Today's guests, who are Matt Modenial

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go asy cats will be with us
today. I wanted to talk to him

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about a few things we spoke about
yesterday. The movement with the Caleb Love

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incident, but the he's returning yep, yep. And then the kind of

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like not fileout, but the domino
effect. There were there were a lot

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of dominoes that fell from that,
especially from the recruiting standpoint, right,

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and then the new guy coming in
from USC different alignment. Uh, So

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we'll get Matt's thoughts on that and
anything else he has to say. And

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then in the second hour, we
have your guy, Dwayne Rankin from Arizona

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Sport, Arizona Central, the Arizona
Republic. He's the Sun's beat writer up

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there, has been for a number
of years and he's seen the ups and

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downs of the last half decade for
the Phoenix Suns, which have been an

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absolute roller coaster as a supporter myself, and he's been doing that for a

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while. So we'll talk about the
past, we'll talk about the future.

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We've had some discussions about the Suns
from other guys up there, and they

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said it was probably the worst,
the least fun year they've ever had in

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covering a team, right, given
the circumstances of the events, right,

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you have a good team, supposed
to good team, and they didn't live

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up to expectations. Now and Steve
I went up there for they supposed the

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debut of the Big three, you
know, back in November, and that

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didn't happen because Bradley Beal was a
late scratch because of back issues he had

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a terrible luck injury year. He
fell bad for him because he's a competitor.

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But you know, they didn't have
enough games together to really make it

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work. And there were a lot
more reasons why it didn't work than that,

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But the bottom line is when it
came to the playoffs and going up

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against the defensive team like Minnesota,
there was a lot that didn't work and

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it showed. So you've been in
this business maybe five six years tops or

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whatever. I'm sure you're well aware
and you don't need me to hear this

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from me, But there's always more
to the story then yesterday. Then what's

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out there? And I think with
the Suns and we'll ask Duane. I

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mean, I'll even use the same
phrase. There's always more to the story.

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And when we were up there in
for the Final four in April,

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and I was there a week after
that and talk videos like this were saying

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this team just didn't mesh. It
just didn't mesh. But but they were

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all hopeful in that in that positive
way that they can be it's gonna change

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Minnesota. They had kind of Minnesota's
number, right, blah blah blah,

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Well they had no Minnesota number.
It was the wrong number if they had,

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but they had the number in the
regular season, they I mean swept

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them in the regular season and then
got swept in the playoffs. Yeah,

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and and that means pretty much nothing
exactly. So we'll talk to him about

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that and just how his enjoyment because
this is a this is a fun job

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for many people, but it's also
work for those who do the job it

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is and you get invested in kind
of the day to day of the ebbs

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and flows of you know, am
I being a conduit to the fans?

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Am I being a true conduit to
the fans and conveying their frust will also

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being fair in an objective way because
I'm a reporter as well. Right,

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let me ask you, so six
years in the business, you came from

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Green Bay, had some big games
to cover. And this may be not

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a couch question, but a few
days that you just said, I wish

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I didn't have to go to the
work to the job today. Oh,

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I don't know if there was a
lot of those even at all. Really,

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I you know what I would say, just the just the weather part

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of it, you know, up
in Green Bay. That would get me,

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That would get me. I will
never ever complain about triple digit temperatures

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here, because I'm of the philosophy
that you can only complain about one temperature.

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The only days I didn't want to
wake up and go to work and

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do this incredible job that I'm so
lucky to do were the days that it

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was sub zero and the wind was
blown in your face and I had to

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get to my car and then maybe
go outside to get out and go to

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the station, or get out and
go cover something that was a little bit

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missed. Well, you grew up
in Nebraska, right, I did what

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you used to it. I was, but the winters last quite a bit

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longer in Green Bay. You're you're
getting some winter stuff from October to late

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May a lot of years. So
it's a bit of a bear. So

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you're telling me that if you get
a call from somewhere in Michigan, upstate

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Michigan saying, hey, uh,
Matt, we're looking for a sports guy,

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you want to come up here,
I don't know. I don't know

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if I'm in really a position to
turn too much down, but uh that,

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uh, that would be a harder, harder thing to say yes to

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than somewhere here in Arizona somewhere will
Paul be saying exactly, you ready to

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come here and start your career again, or you know, restart your career

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and get it. Yeah, so, no, I get it. I

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totally get it. It's I like
golfing year round. I mean, I'm

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not I'm not that good, but
uh, you know it's consistent upper eighties.

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Well you're in the right seat because
Jay isn't either, you know.

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I just uh, I just enjoy
getting out there and hacking the ball around.

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And you play for the rare birdie. You really do. Oh that's

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the reason why I don't play,
because I suck at it and I don't

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want to be four hours of sucking
at it. That would be horrible.

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Yeah. I feel you there.
But we've got great golf weather, great

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golf courses down here, don't we. Yeah, there's no question. Well,

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so we're gonna have some great guests. Like I said, the big

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Games this weekend. If you're hoping
to get out there. I think the

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tickets are fourteen dollars each. Did
you did you get some? I'm gonna

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look tomorrow morning, Okay, because
you asked the question, right, how

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much I think they're like fifty dollars
for the special seats. I think it

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was thirty six all session all session
regular general mission. Yeah, and fourteen

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dollars per ticket for a game,
and the single session tickets, so they're

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per game, right, but it'll
single session tickets will get you into the

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games of that day. Oh really, Okay, so fourteen dollars a day.

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So if you want to go check
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game and come back, yeah,
I'm fairly certain that it'll get you into

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bothams. Okay, no, great, Yeah, so that's twelve right noon

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and then six ye noon and six
hopey marow. Yeah, that West Virginia

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Dallas Baptist game should be really good. I actually saw, you know,

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just a casual observation from Michael lev
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you know, both the workout day
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West Virginia looks pretty loose, so
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upset coming up tomorrow in that noon
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surprise, and then West Virginia will
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Canyon on Saturday yeah, reach the
base. Let me excuse this too because

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I get a kick and maybe it's
me having done that in the past.

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So you go see a team,
all they look really loose. What what

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does that mean? And you're not
playing that day anyway? It means if

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you have the glove on your head
or you're touring water on people and messing

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around, then you're pretty loose,
then you'll say. And then when you

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get your ass beat by ten points
ten runs in a a ten run rule,

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you're thinking, do you mean not? It should not have been so

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loose the day before? You know
who else looked really loose Arizona before the

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Sweet sixteen loss against Clemson. Good, great point. That's thank I was

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at that practice day. I watched
it the entire time. They looked loose.

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Yeah, they didn't play loose.
What didn't matter, not a damn

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thing, No, not at all
thing. Well, I'm sure Killed Love

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hit some shots. He did then
in that in the day before. R.

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J. Davis did too for North
Carolina. The weirdest stat that I've

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heard this year, or the weirdest
statistical occurrence I think I've seen in sports

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this calendar year, were shooting two
shooters of the caliber of Caleb Love and

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R. J. Davis, and
back to back games on that court in

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La going a combined zero for eighteen
for seventeen yea but over eighteen yea and

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back to back games, and two
guys who have a definite connection with each

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other. Yep, yep for former
teammates at UNC. Right, No,

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it was that was not unnoticed for
that day because once it was over,

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we were thinking we got to get
back on the road and come back to

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Tucsa. Yeah, we were all
stunned. Well and both won. It

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would have been the story lines would
have been incredible. I mean, that's

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and that's what we do this for. We do this for those incredible storylines.

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I think when we saw the draw, the field of sixty four or

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the field of sixty eight draw,
and we saw number one seed North Carolina

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with number two seed Arizona, we
were looking our jobs for the possibility of

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just highlighting that story in the return
and it was true to form until that

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Thursday afternoon, of course, it
was so we'll see. But the good

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catch they both missed shots all day
and both teams went home. Yeah,

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okay, so we're going to take
the break, We're going to have Matt

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Modono on and talk about what's going
on recruiting lines. We have Matt often,

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Now we have Matt Mordeno. I'll
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you the great defense for having back? Yes? Are you are? You

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very busy or is it busy yesterday
with that Caleb Love announcement and then everything

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else that came with it. Yeah, I mean it's always a busy time,

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and you know, right now it's
kind of crunch time for a lot

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of rosters coming together. Obviously,
the NBA deadline are just passed, and

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you're trying to there's a lot of
players trying to figure out, Okay,

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I staying in the draft? Am
I not going to draft? If I'm

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not going to draft, I'm not
staying in the draft. Rather, what

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am I gonna do? Am I
gonna stay at my current school? Am

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I going to complete my transfer and
go to where I was going? All

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that kind of stuff. So it's
just kind of fitting all the pieces together.

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Obviously, Arizona yesterday really kind of
started to make some real headway with

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its roster and its future roster and
everything kind of taking shape. And obviously

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Caleb Love is the pivotal key piece
to that, and so I felt like

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everything else was kind of centered around
what Caleb was going to do, and

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uh, you know, where Arizona
kind of went next and what happened with

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the roster, you know, and
what it was looking like and what it

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will look like. It was based
on what Caleb Blove decided to do.

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It always felt like he was going
to end up returning. There just wasn't

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that overwhelming NBA draft buzz for him
for various reasons and obviously not getting you

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know, the big combined invite was
was kind of a pretty significant tell about

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kind of the NBA NBA thoughts on
where he stands and how he sits into

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the picture. But you know,
it kind of always felt like that,

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and obviously, you know, just
talking to different people and getting a sense

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for it and what even when you
kind of thought play out, it's like,

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do you want to be you know, big man on campus? Obviously

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there's going to be significant and I
owe money and play when you in your

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players' caliber is coming back to college
and do you want that or do you

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want to go you know, being
in the G League and have to work

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your way up and kind of quad
to get into the into the main kind

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of league and get into the NBA
and kind of being the spotlight there.

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So you know, he can continue
to work on things he you know,

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go in next year and try it
again and see if he helps himself and

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is able to kind of move into
that the first round and get drafted and

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have a spot in the league.
But I don't think it's uh, you

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know, a bad thing for cable
Up to return to school and obviously for

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Arizona gives them, you know,
a very very key piece to what they

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want to do this second season,
Matt. Obviously, for a number of

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years, players have been able to
enter the NBA draft process and then withdraw

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and put their name, you know, get their name back in their school

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and back and rolled for another year
of college ball. But it feels like

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this falls into hyper drive from the
recruiting standpoint when it comes to unlimited transfers

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as well. Yesterday we saw the
Domino's fall with Joe snson On decommitting and

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Jamari Phillips decommitting as well. How
often and how commonplace are these sort of

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days going to be with this the
portal being so many part of the Dominoes

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as well as the NBA draft process
as well. Now, yeah, I

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mean I think it only gets ramped
up that much more just because again there's

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that nil element, and that wasn't
there before. Yes, there was decisions

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like this before, and there's players
who are kind of deciding what they were

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going to do, and that's not
new, but the nil element where it's

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like, well, now you have
that money spoken for and you got to

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figure out how all those pieces kind
of fit. And so I think throwing

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that into the mix really is going
to make this part of the norm.

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And you're going to see players who
are committed one place or even signed you

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know, at one school figuring out
Okay, well, you know a month

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ago, this wasn't the scenario.
Now it is, and so you know,

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I think that's going to be commonplace
and we're kind of seeing that,

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you know, play out right now. And I think for Arizona it's going

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to continue to be part of the
picture because Arizona the Spaces is going to

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have players who are going to be
in this position every year. It's a

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place where there's NBA caliber talent every
year. And you know, it's really

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difficult to get it to the NBA, and so you can be a player

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like Caleb b Love and have a
difficult kind of path and road to try

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and get in there. Not everybody, you know, a clear first round

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pick, and that league is looking
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at the college level, and so
I think you're going to continue to see

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that. I think it's going to
be even more so the case of the

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team's move forward here and as a
college game moves forward, and you know,

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puts everyone kind of in an in
a strange spot and in limbo for

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some of those high school recruits.
And that's not something that necessarily had been

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the case, you know, five
ten years ago, obviously, and you

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know, the high school guys were
the premier guys and you're trying to you

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know, battle for this top group
of premier talented players because you had the

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rest of your roster set and now
it's kind of you know, figuring it

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out every year and every off season. And uh, you know, Arizona

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fans know that's that's the case,
and it hasn't been the case for a

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while now that he's kind of making
the match in the roster and then setting

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all the pieces together the best you
can and sometimes that runs e ntil the

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summer. So do you think that
that Arizona's I know that the teams coaches

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haven't chased high school players as often
now because it's all about the transfer portal,

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But how do you think the kids
coming in from the high school level,

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very good recruiting class are going to
be able to fit in with the

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transfers coming in. Now, Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting. I

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know there's a lot of kind of
a mix reaction, maybe more negative to

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00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:18.759
Joe thompson Non's decision to flip to
ASU about well, you know, Arizona's

408
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.640
bringing back these players, and I
think Arizona chancel like what they've made their

409
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.279
decision about, at least themselves about
what cale Glove is and who he is.

410
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.160
And obviously you know that exit from
the tournament doesn't sit well with the

411
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.440
fan base, and so at least
on our message boards and an rs our

412
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.000
subscribers, there is a lot of
like, well look what they did.

413
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:37.480
They ran off these other young guys
that are going to be compted players.

414
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And Joe Snson is a very very
compent player. But I think if you

415
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have any college coach in the country, they're going to take experience over youth.

416
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It doesn't matter the talent in many
cases, and Johnson Ons can be

417
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:52.920
very very good at the college level, but you cannot replicate the experience that

418
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you know some of these players have, especially someone like Caleb Glove, who

419
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.599
has been through the NCAA terms played
at a high level. Coaches really really

420
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value that. They've always have really
really valued that, and I think a

421
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:07.880
lot of the top tier, kind
of premiere programs really value that experience on

422
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.480
their rosters and know that's what's going
to take them far in the end.

423
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:14.799
But I really like this this class
that Arizona is bringing in, and what

424
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.880
all this does is lets them kind
of bring them in a little bit slow.

425
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:19.839
You don't have to rely on so
much youth, and that's difficult.

426
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.359
I mean the early part of the
season, that's that's a struggle for a

427
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.160
lot of those young players as they
kind of figure it out. And you

428
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.440
know, when you've done it as
long as DFCS and you know, all

429
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:33.119
of us there're seeing kind of all
these seasons play out. You know,

430
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:36.039
you've seen it before with those young
players. They're just not the same you

431
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:40.279
know, you know in November as
they are in February, and so there

432
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:44.039
has to be that time for growth
and development, and you can kind of

433
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:47.799
let that happen a little bit more
slowly and kind of allow it to kind

434
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:49.880
of happen organically. When you know
that you have a core group of veterans

435
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.880
and experienced players you can lean on
more so than the freshmen. And so

436
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.319
I think it's going to be beneficial
for a lot of those guys that really

437
00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.559
like this group still, and I
think there's going to be a well bounced

438
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.319
roster in Tucson next season. That's
I think it's a really big deal.

439
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.240
And you know, if you're Arizona, you don't want any drop offs,

440
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:07.559
and I think that's that's key,
And especially in today's game, you really

441
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.759
want to have kind of a seamless
transition from one season to the next,

442
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.000
and it's difficult with how much movement
there is, but I think Arizona has

443
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.160
been a really good spot with that. Man, I want to follow up

444
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:18.480
on a point you made a couple
of minutes ago about these kids, these

445
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.559
high school recruits making business decisions for
them, and I want you to put

446
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.480
yourself in the mindset of a high
school recruit, which because you talked to

447
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.359
so many is probably a little bit
easier for you to do than maybe some

448
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:34.119
others. But when these kids are
going through this process and they commit to

449
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:40.160
a school, is in a scenario
almost at this point when it comes to

450
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:44.000
the nil game when it comes to
the portal that even if you're committed to

451
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:47.720
a school, you have to keep
other options in your back pocket. Or

452
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.880
are these guys truly just starting over
when it's become a parent that it's not

453
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.119
going to work for them at the
school they committed to. Yeah, no

454
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:57.079
doubt. I mean it really feels
more now than ever that it's just kind

455
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.519
of a placeholder. The commitment is
just kind of a place holder, like

456
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.480
if anything, you know, if
it all kind of came crashing down and

457
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.359
I don't get what I want and
I all wise, or the situations elsewhere

458
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.559
doesn't you know, isn't to my
liking. I know I would belong here.

459
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.039
I know I would sit into this
program. So it really is like

460
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.759
a placeholder in a lot of cases. And you see that on both the

461
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.160
football and the basketball side. But
you know, it really is kind of

462
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.400
a situation like that where recruits will
tell you outright like I just want my

463
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:23.680
spot. I want on my spot
locked up. There's too much going on

464
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.400
with the transfer portal. I don't
want my spot to get taken. I

465
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.759
like the school enough that I would
feel comfortable playing there one day, so

466
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.440
I'm going to commit it happens a
lot more, I think on the football

467
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.359
side in terms of early commitments and
then a lot of deconmitments later on.

468
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.200
And I've had those words told to
me where recruits are like, yeah,

469
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.279
I just want to make sure I
have my spot, and so it definitely

470
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.440
means something different than what it used
to in terms of commitment, and that

471
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.680
kind of goes for both sides,
because you know, college coaches kind of

472
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:51.680
change the situations themselves, and you
know, a player comes into the portal,

473
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:52.599
they go, hey, we like
him a lot more than you know

474
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.799
what we have committed, and maybe
the words that to get back to those

475
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:59.799
recruits like hey, you're not as
high on our board as you want to

476
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.480
work and so it kind of goes
both ways. But yeah, I think

477
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.559
it's it's kind of becoming pretty complex. I think it's less secretive than it

478
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.960
was before. Before it was like
you have recruits taking secret visits and nobody

479
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.240
would know about those until after they
happen. It's it's a lot it's happening

480
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.400
a lot less now where that's the
case and a lot of the recruits are

481
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.519
open and they hey, I'm visiting
no. Five more schools and I'm committed,

482
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.400
and if you don't like it,
I guess, you know, to

483
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.599
deal with it because I need to
keep my options open. I think everyone's

484
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:27.480
a little bit more kind of transparent
about that now. And yeah, these

485
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:32.279
recruits in a lot of cases are
continuing those conversations with other programs, whether

486
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.200
they're initiating those or not. A
lot of times it is other college programs

487
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.559
just reaching out and being like,
hey, what's your situation. Are you

488
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.039
open to you know, coming to
visit? Are you open to listen to

489
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.000
our pitch? And in a lot
of cases that is that is the scenario.

490
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.920
And so I think there is a
lot more of that where the recruits

491
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.799
are definitely keeping their eyes open and
trying to find what fits them best because

492
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.079
I think they've seen everything kind of
play out with programs, you know,

493
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.400
where the programs are trying to figure
out what's best for them as well.

494
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.079
So it's kind of a two way
street. And then yeah, they're but

495
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.519
there's a lot more of that where
a lot of these recruits are kind of

496
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.799
keeping it You're open, and keeping
those conversations open and looking at all their

497
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.720
options before they really settle in on
the final final decision. So we've been

498
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.400
going through this rented player stuff for
about I don't know, ten twelve years,

499
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:15.039
whatever it has been, it's been. It's been about that because I

500
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.559
know Wisconsin, the coach back then
when Arizona played him, talked about the

501
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.359
one and done's as the rental players. But let me give you the scenario

502
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.640
to both of you, guys.
Okay, so Sonan goes to Issue,

503
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.000
Uh, Boswell goes where he goes, and I don't want to connect to

504
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:36.880
Boswell to love all that much,
wink wink. But but okay, so

505
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.440
Love comes back, he plays the
year. Would it be a surprise,

506
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:47.920
guys if Sondan decided to leave a
Issue and come here, if he chooses

507
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:52.599
to stay another year in the college
level, I'll start with that. I

508
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.920
think from what I've heard on Joe
sonson On and Matt you can definitely speak

509
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.640
to this is that he was someone
that was interested in being a one and

510
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.160
done type player, and I think
that was part of the reason why he

511
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.279
reclassified to twenty twenty four in the
first place. Right, So if he

512
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:10.640
has you know, if he even
shows good flashes at ASU where he will

513
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.279
play a hot and he probably will
start if he shows the flashes there.

514
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.640
I mean, this guy could enter
the draft and be be maybe an impact

515
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:19.640
player right away. I know this
year was a real is a really you

516
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:25.480
know, is regarded as maybe a
lower end NBA draft class. I don't

517
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.000
know if people are really expecting next
year to like bounce back in a huge

518
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:32.759
way and be this generational NBA draft
class. So if he shows out at

519
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:37.079
ASU, maybe NBA is in his
future. So he must be seventeen I

520
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.480
think so, yeah, seventeen b
eighteen when he plays here next year.

521
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:45.640
So he'll have to have a fantastic
here because his name's not Browny. What

522
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.000
about you? What do you want
to think thinking about that modern Yeah,

523
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.880
I mean I think a lot of
why you go to a place like Arizona

524
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.759
State is because you know, you
want to have that ability to shine.

525
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.680
And I think if you look at
Arizona roster, it's much more difficult to

526
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.240
do that at a place like air
Zone. And yes, as you've started

527
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.279
to build some things there and it
has some real talent come into to tempty,

528
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.240
but uh, you know, you
have a I think the greater opportunity

529
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:08.680
to do those things. And yeah, I agree that that that has been

530
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:13.279
the conversations like one and done has
kind of been the topic and you reclassify

531
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.119
for that reason, you look at
the options you do for that reason and

532
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:20.200
to put yourself in a position to
do that. But there have been moments

533
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.839
where that hasn't happened, and you, you know, guys seem like sure

534
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.279
things to be one and done,
and they've gone in with the mindset of

535
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:29.200
like, no matter what happens,
I'm going to be out of this place

536
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:30.440
and on to the next level within
you know, nine months or whatever it

537
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.480
is. And it just hasn't happened, and so and so, so we'll

538
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.039
see kind of how it all plays
out. But again to your point,

539
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:43.079
Steve, that's why a lot of
coaches don't try and burn bridges during the

540
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.200
high school recruiting process because they know
it can come back around. They know

541
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:50.240
what happens and if if you can
be in play that second time around today

542
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.000
eight we're still the same, You
still like this, you committed to this

543
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.559
one, just do it again,
and you're in a different position. You're

544
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.960
in a different position. And so
I think a lot of coaches are doing

545
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.640
their due dude dealing and making sure
that they don't burn those bridges kind of

546
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:06.279
across the board because they know there
could be a second recruitment coming in the

547
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:07.799
not too distant future and they want
to be in a good position to land

548
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:09.880
that recruit one. Sure, yeah, so mad that you're saying. It

549
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.400
means a little bit more now to
be the second or third hat on the

550
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:17.839
table. Absolutely. I think I
think you can't be overly discouraged if you

551
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.759
come come in second. In a
lot of these retreatments before that was hey

552
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:23.200
it's over and we got to move
on and figure something else out. And

553
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.680
yeah, that's the case still where
you have to kind of uh, you

554
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.640
know, uh look at you know, uh, situations and solutions in the

555
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.400
interim, but you know, moving
forward, it's like, well, if

556
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.480
you don't get it. There's been
that conversation. I've heard these words from

557
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.359
coaches where it's like, if you
don't get them, you can get them

558
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.240
next year, and there's kind of
maybe half joking, but I think there

559
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.880
is a lot of seriousness to what
they're saying, and they believe that,

560
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:44.880
hey, if you don't get them
this year, you do to get next

561
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.279
year, and you know you'll be
in the same position and hey, you

562
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:50.279
came in second you'll be one of
the favorites to land them again. And

563
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.640
so you know it's definitely the case. And if you're one of those top

564
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:55.359
two or three, you're going to
be in a great position. You've seen

565
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:59.200
it a lot to play out with
those schools that were you know, second

566
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.359
and third, the original recruitments,
uh, you know, come back and

567
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:05.039
you know there's green guys who have
transferred a couple of times where that third

568
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.920
school dur in the high school trewment
comes back and now they're you know where

569
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.000
he's playing and finishing his career and
so, uh yeah, you definitely can't

570
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.320
rule that out. And it's it's
not a terrible position to being if you're

571
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:15.719
if you're a cool right now.
So I need a quick answer, Matt,

572
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.760
So make this quick. Uh.
I know this is gonna be difficult

573
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:25.519
for you. Uh. Football,
the defensive lineman from USC coming here,

574
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.119
What does that mean? It means
good things. An experienced player, somebody

575
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.559
that I think they're missing, helps
them replace, you know, some key

576
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.559
departures. And I think a very
very good thing for Arizona. And it

577
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.960
could be a sneaky, sneaky,
uh, really good pick up for Arizona.

578
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:44.360
Okay, so now I like we
have I like this would be my

579
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:50.039
next question, another quick one on
we didn't even talk about Phillips. Yeah,

580
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.079
I mean, we'll we'll see what
happens. I mean, uh,

581
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:53.719
you know, this is just part
of the whole process, Steve, and

582
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:59.599
obviously, uh you know it's there's
one ball and when you have some ball

583
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:04.639
dominant players coming back and some guys
are going to carry that workload, it'll

584
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.880
be interesting to see kind of how
it all plays out exactly. Okay,

585
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.480
thanks, Matt, appreciate you go
back to thanks Matt crunching those numbers.

586
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.719
Absolutely, thank you, Matt.
I appreciate it. Yeah, it's about

587
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.679
playing. What I asked you yesterday, why do athletes come here, come

588
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:20.880
go to school. They come to
go to school for the money and the

589
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:22.400
plane money played the school. What
do you mean, what's that? What's

590
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.119
the school? What's the academic side
of it? Okay, well, let's

591
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.559
take a break and discuss more about
all this, maybe take a call or

592
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:32.360
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621
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.840
welcome back to I on the Ball
here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

622
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:50.079
Steve Rivera. I've got Matt Reynoldson
in with me today. My guy Ryan

623
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.519
here manning the board and checking the
phones. If you gonna want to call

624
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.599
five to two zero for one six
seven four four zero, I'd love to

625
00:37:57.639 --> 00:37:59.920
hear from you, just maybe on
anything you want to talk about me,

626
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:07.119
the Love situation and the new team
as you see it today, and you've

627
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:12.840
seen what we saw last year last
season. Do you like what's left and

628
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.599
what he has because it's not gonna
change now, right. I do like

629
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.440
what's left, and it was when
I was looking at the offseason, you

630
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.199
know, back in March, when
the season ended so abruptly in Los Angeles,

631
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.800
as we've talked about, it looked
like, okay, this is gonna

632
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.880
be a reset year. We'll see
how the young team progresses by the time

633
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.159
you get to March, and they'll
take their lumps in conference play and maybe

634
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.719
lose a home game to Duke or
something to that effect. But now you

635
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.559
have a team that's loaded with veterans
and loaded with guys, assuming Jayden Bradley

636
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:47.840
comes back, loaded with guys that
are going to be guys that have seen

637
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.559
March basketball. kJ lewis taking another
step. Caleb Love obviously has seen his

638
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:58.360
well worthy share of March moments.
Tray Townsend went to the tournament with Oakland

639
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:02.000
this past year, and who played
really good minutes for the Cats in March

640
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:06.039
this year. Yeah, I'm assuming, I'm assuming you played ball at some

641
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:10.119
level baseball I did. Yeah,
I played tennis, basketball at Socceray,

642
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.840
basketball was kind of what I obsessed
over even more so you played You played

643
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.400
sports obviously, So you have a
pretty good team. You have a pretty

644
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:20.920
good sense of this. And I
say this with Jay all the time.

645
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.360
You could be very good, You
can be very good, but guess what

646
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.840
you have to do. You have
to play against other people who are just

647
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.880
as good, if not better.
Uh, Arizona's now as we stand,

648
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.719
it's probably the third or fourth best
team in the Big Twelve. Maybe in

649
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.679
Houston brings back a lot Kansas,
Baylor loaded next year Baylor Iowa State is

650
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.079
going to be good. So I
think that, uh, we kind of

651
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.440
we can wax poetic here on the
show because we were in Tucson, but

652
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:52.119
realistically, other teams are doing what
Arizona's doing too, right, and we

653
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.559
don't know that. You know,
who would have thought Clemson this team that

654
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.880
nobody knew knew anything about would be
that good, right, you know,

655
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:01.960
know, until you know and then
by that time you're down ten exactly.

656
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:06.760
And if they had a really hot
march run and played really strong defense and

657
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.159
you know, I mean, uh, now that we're removed from it,

658
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:13.880
right now that we're removed from the
what in the world happened of it all?

659
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.159
I think we can say that what
Tommy Lloyd said after the game is

660
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.599
somewhat of a fair assessment because he
said, bad shooting nights happened, just

661
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.079
happened at the wrong time. Let's
take a call real quick. Hello,

662
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:30.960
you're on the air and eye on
the ball. Hey, wherever this is

663
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:31.880
Mike Quinn. How are you bou
Mike? How why are you good to

664
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:37.119
hear from you? What's on your
mind? Yeah? So, you know,

665
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.320
I was, I was, I
was listening to what guest Matt was

666
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.519
staying, uh and about luck coming
back. You know, I'm not sure

667
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:52.800
if it's it's additioned by subtraction,
the subtraction by addition, but you know,

668
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.159
he one thing he said was that, uh, you know, oh,

669
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.639
we get these guys that are young
guys playing in over They're going to

670
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.840
benefit from the fans man, I
tell you you used to beat in my

671
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.679
head about November doesn't matter, March
matters. Are we better in March.

672
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.079
I wouldn't want to be better in
November. I'd rather be better in March.

673
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.159
Yeah, no question. And I
also thought Matt and both you guys

674
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:25.639
that Arizona whatever, no faults of
their own unless it is mortgage the future

675
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:29.880
for the present. I think at
some extent they did. But also you

676
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:31.639
have to consider that a lot of
these guys can jump to the NBA Draft

677
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.159
whenever they want, and so if
they have a good year, it might

678
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.039
not be your thinking about the future. It might not be you're developing guys

679
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.159
right now. You're developing guys to
lead. So it's not like it is

680
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:45.480
in football necessarily, where if you
are taking a senior transfer, you're potentially

681
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.519
mortgaging a roster spot on the eighty
five for a freshman. So in basketball,

682
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.280
I think you have to look at
what your needs are of this team

683
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.559
and the investment that they've already made
in Caleb Love. And yeah, he

684
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:59.000
didn't have a very good March,
but he was the closer all year long,

685
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.280
and I don't see another closer on
this roster as of right now as

686
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:10.639
we sit here on my thirty So
you qu uh did you did you want

687
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:15.440
him back? Did it matter your
auditioned by subtraction or subtraction by audition?

688
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:21.239
What are your thoughts? Yeah,
I don't I don't know. I mean

689
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.239
I think that you know, certainly
he's he's a hell of a talent.

690
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.519
I mean, he's a hell of
a basketball player. I mean he's shown

691
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.760
that, uh pactoral player of the
Year is to have to argue with that.

692
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:36.800
I just wonder if they're a better
team with somebody else. And I

693
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:40.280
don't really know. I'm not very
familiar with the folks that decided not to

694
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:47.440
return or sure or not to be
committed, which is why I'm really why

695
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:52.559
to call him. But it's uh, I'm not sure if I would say

696
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.079
that I wanted him back. I
wanted to turn the page and see if

697
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:59.800
we could get better as a team. Mike, that's an interesting point too.

698
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.320
And you know, but I think
what you're doing is with any high

699
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.400
school recruit, and with any high
level recruit and even a transfer coming in,

700
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.440
you're taking a dice roll on how
they fit with the culture of your

701
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:13.199
team and the culture that you're trying
to establish in this program, and Tommy

702
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.800
Lloyd going into year four, has
really come into his own on how he

703
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:21.039
wants to establish the mindset of a
program. And he had a lot of

704
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:23.679
hard conversations I believe, with Caleb
Love last offseason to say, hey,

705
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.880
you're going to come in and be
a part of this. These are the

706
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:29.800
things I want you to do.
This is what I want you to represent

707
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.159
as a person and a locker room
guy, not just a basketball player.

708
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:36.559
And I think by all accounts all
year from you know, the press conferences

709
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.320
and the games that we went to
Steve, is that we saw a Caleb

710
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.719
Love who was coming in to be
a teammate, be humble, and be

711
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.000
that guy that was going to fit
into Tommy Lloyd's culture. Yeah. He

712
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:52.679
did a pretty good job of that
in most of those instances, but not

713
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.760
all of them. Sure. So
okay, thanks Mike for calling. Appreciate

714
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.719
it. You appreciate it, Mike. How do you given his reputation rate,

715
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.440
he was this star in North Carolina, had up his ups and downs,

716
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:07.519
led him to the Final four,
and then had a bad game in

717
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:10.840
one of those games. Last year
was what it was. The previous year

718
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:15.199
was was what it was. That's
why he left, right in fact,

719
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.559
so well here we got another call. Hold that thought. I can remember

720
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:22.280
it. Hey, welcome to Eye
of the Ball. You're on the air.

721
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.679
How's it going today? Good?
How are you? What's going on?

722
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:30.239
Good about that Caleb Love thing?
You know? I you know,

723
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.840
to me, I think it's you
know, it's fine. He's coming back.

724
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.360
There's no guarantee that these two kids
that were coming in we're going to

725
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:43.199
be here, whether they transferred nil
money somewhere else or decided to go pro.

726
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.679
I mean, today's roster is built
on one year and one year only,

727
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:51.800
not Okay, what can this guy
do for us two three years down

728
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.519
the road? Right right? That's
not the way basketball is anymore. And

729
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.800
I think people have to realize that. Yeah, no question. I think

730
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:00.920
you're definitely on the ball with that
one, because you know, I looked

731
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:06.159
at last year's team as almost a
perfect mix of the five and then they

732
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:09.639
eight that were in the rotation and
what everybody brought to the floor, and

733
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:14.679
one bad night causes you to sort
of question everything, and you know what,

734
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:15.760
maybe they would have lost in the
Elite eight and we would have had

735
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:20.440
these questions on a you know,
on a broader level as well of okay,

736
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:22.440
what were the cracks in the foundation
throughout the season, But because they

737
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.519
played their worst game of the season, perhaps against the last team they played

738
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.960
and really laiden egg shooting wise against
Clemson, we had those conversations a little

739
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:35.039
bit earlier, you know. So
let me ask you real quick. The

740
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.599
expectations are here, always big,
right, always big? What would be

741
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.719
really what would be the realistic expectations? And you know, you know,

742
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:45.880
you listening and you call all the
time and the time of my realistic view,

743
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:52.840
what would be next year's realistic view? I don't think there really is

744
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:57.840
a realistic view. I think there's
a hope, maybe a realistic hope,

745
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:00.639
and not a view in the sense
that, okay, we all expect to

746
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.119
get to the final four. Okay, that's Arizona basketball. I mean,

747
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.920
we haven't been there in about three
hundred years, it seems. But you

748
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.880
know, I think you know,
we all looked, you know, with

749
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.079
the team, the players we have
that we would like. We know,

750
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.519
we assume we're going to try and
get to the final four. But unfortunately,

751
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:23.280
there's forty other teams in basketball now
right they're just as talented who they

752
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:28.320
have the same feelings that we do. Yep. And you know, I

753
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:35.719
mean if we didn't have Caleb Loved
last year planned, yep, there's probably

754
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:40.320
six seven more losses on that on
that resume, easily true. And on

755
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:44.360
the topic of expectations, I want
to I want to float this to you

756
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:49.800
and to all of our listeners.
Are we okay with looking at this Arizona

757
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.760
basketball team in twenty twenty four to
twenty five and seeing a team that plays

758
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.719
their way into a five seat or
a six seat in the NCAA turn right,

759
00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:00.320
because I think we've become so used
to the one in two seeds team

760
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.199
at the top of the bracket and
then you know, maybe being disappointed in

761
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:07.239
the second weekend? Uh, you
know, are are we okay with seeing

762
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.719
Arizona struggle throughout the regular season in
a rugged Big twelve conference and then maybe

763
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:14.920
being more battles test to come?
Mark, go ahead and answer that realistically,

764
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:17.360
because you know, and I know
that's not good enough. No,

765
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:22.480
it's not, you know, but
I mean, we we've done our best

766
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.320
basically well, well, I don't
know what we remember if we were a

767
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:29.280
four or five seed where we won
the national championship. But it's just you

768
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.360
know, at that time of year, whoever gets hot gets hot. Yep,

769
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.840
And that's basically all it is,
right. You know, all the

770
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.760
talent in the world, there are
a lot there are a lot more teams,

771
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.679
more talented us than us last year
who didn't do that? Well yeah,

772
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.639
right, well, thanks for the
call as usual. I just don't

773
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.599
know if people are going to sit
there and go, oh, Kayla's coming

774
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.079
back. I'll bet when we lost
these two guys. We don't even know

775
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:53.599
what these two guys are going to
be like. They may not even have

776
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.360
been in the top seven rotation,
right, you know, you're right,

777
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.639
yeah, and you know what you
know because you've seen it already with love.

778
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.960
Yeah yeah, okay, Well,
thanks for the call as always,

779
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.840
Thanks so much, appreciate it.
Yeah you well, yeah, you know

780
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:13.239
what you know, and you know, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad,

781
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:15.519
right, right, And we could
look at the potential of Joe sonsen

782
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.840
On or Jamori Phillips coming in and
being that closer, but that's tough to

783
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.880
take over in November, and you've
got a lot of veterans on this roster

784
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:24.440
that it played a lot of minutes
I mean, look at the guy who

785
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:28.440
was the five star that came in
last year. kJ Lewis came off the

786
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.039
bench real quick, another call.
Hey, welcome to eye the ball.

787
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:36.280
You're on the air. Hey Steve, this is done? Hey done?

788
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:39.199
How are you? I'm good man? Happy to be late at birthday,

789
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.760
I had a chance to call in. Yeah, thank you, don what's

790
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:46.400
on your mind? With love?
I assume no, no, enough for

791
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:53.760
the basketball discuss how disappointing the basketball
team is at the end of November,

792
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:02.840
because we're gonna be doing it then
or the third week of March next year

793
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:13.039
anyway, So okay, I mean, well, well, the thing is

794
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:17.199
trying to talk about the roster.
It's like the previous caller said, everybody's

795
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:20.760
got to get used to like,
hey, we don't know what the roster

796
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.000
is going to be between now and
that they start the season and so.

797
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:30.199
And it's been it's been years since
I've even worried about recruiting or trying to

798
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:35.480
even get to know the rock with
the picture of a player, and I

799
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:40.719
have no idea who it is,
right, who is by picture with you?

800
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:46.719
Yeah? What I what I did
want to talk about was I did

801
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:55.039
want to command ship hail on adjusting
the rotation for this weekend. Not you

802
00:49:55.119 --> 00:50:00.400
know, nothing against Kent, but
you know he might need a cup extra

803
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.440
days hopefully to not think about it. I don't know, it's not there's

804
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.920
not going to be any taking the
pressure off, because if he's when he's

805
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:13.079
pitching on Sunday, you know there's
certainly going to be pressure. I'm in

806
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.679
lockstep with you, Hope, I'm
sorry, I'm in lockstep with you on

807
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.320
that. I think it was a
great move. I think it was a

808
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.079
savvy move, and I think it
just goes to show a coach that you

809
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:25.840
know has played at a high level
and coached at a high level at many

810
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.280
levels of baseball, and he's not
afraid to adjust on the fly in the

811
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.079
most crucial time of the year.
And this is coming off a regular season

812
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.880
championship, a postseason championship, and
earning a regional host that he's still willing

813
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.840
to switch things up. It shows
someone I think, who's willing to adapt,

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which you don't only see at every
level of baseball. Well, he's

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also done it with the batting order
as well. And if and if you've

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been paying and if you've been paying
attention, in the last few weeks,

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guys have been moving up and down. Summer Hill was hitting fourth, then

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now he's leading off and and he
does that, you know, and usually

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baseball guys don't do that. The
batting order is usually written in ink.

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I think injury. I think injuries
part of that too. You know,

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Emilio Corona had his spot in the
top three of the order pretty well locked

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down, and then injuries hit him
a little bit. Chip said today that

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he's still working his way back for
this weekend. But I think you do

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have those chess pieces that you use
to your point in guys like Brendan summer

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Hill, and guys like even Blake
McDonald who's a lot of times playing behind

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a Donnis Guzman there Mason White obviously
with his power and what he can do

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with the plate, and you know, change a game in one swing.

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I think they used the ability to
move that around really well and be able

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to manufacture some runs in a lot
of situations. And I think that really

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helped at the end of the season, because even with the injuries, there

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was like Saturday night, that guy
from usc was dealing Holy we went up

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for the game, we saw it
and in the fifth inning, I said,

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hey, somebody, I'll tell that
guy he's throwing a no hitter,

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you know, because we need to
end this thing quick, right But as

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soon as as soon as Mason White
scored that first run, for me,

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I didn't say it out loud,
but for me, the game was over.

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Arizona was going to come back and
win that game. That's the confidence

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I have in watching this team.
And these guys have the experience because they've

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moved up and they've moved down,
so they've they've been in the pressure spots.

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They've gotten the chance to move down
to work on that and everything else.

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And just and Chip Hale just pushing
the buttons. You know, even

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with the injuries we have, they
you know, we should be able to

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get out of this region. I
think, thank you, Don we got

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about ten seconds. Thanks for colling. Appreciate have a good one guys,

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right we've got to get a break
right now. Thanks

