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millions of Angelinos for over twenty five
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Talk Like back, David Basse.
Welcome to Dodger Talk David Basse live at

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Dodger Stadium. After the Rangers defeat
the Dodgers tonight by a final score of

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three to two. We are with
you until eleven thirty tonight, taking your

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phone calls at eight six, six, nine, eighty seven, two five

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seventy. Jose Mota will join us
at eleven fifteen. Also, we have

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two copies of Andy McCullough's great biography
on Clayton Kershaw, The Last of His

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Kind, to give away. So
I do have a couple of Kershawn No

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Hitter related trivia questions to ask the
callers that call in with an opinion or

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a question tonight to see whether or
not they're up for an Andy McCullough book,

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The Last of His Kind of Kershaw
biography. It's a fantastic read,

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and we are lucky enough to get
our hands on some to give away this

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week leading up to Father's Day.
It's a great Father's Day gift. I'm

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giving my father in law a copy
of this book, so I want to

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share it with you. It's a
really good read and certainly well deserved for

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Clayton Kershaw, because nobody has written
a book about his life, about his

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career, and Andy certainly did it
justice. So we will give two copies

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of the last of his kind away
tonight during this Dodger Talk edition from now

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until eleven thirty. We have two
lines open at eight sixty six nine to

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eighty seven two five seventy. All
right, there are three things that stick

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out to me about tonight's game.
Number one, Yes, Andy pa has

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made a rookie mistake. He had
his head down, he made his decision

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without the help of his third base
coach, Dino Ebol, which he is

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supposed to use in that situation,
and you saw the result. A bad

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base running mistake cost the Dodgers a
chance to tie this game up in the

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bottom of the ninth inning against the
closer that was on the ropes. Look

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no excuses for that, right,
I mean, you could say anything you

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want. Andy Pie has made a
cardinal mistake right there, and I'm sure

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he will learn from it. But
that's the reason why you don't put seven

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or eight rookies on the field at
the same time, And that's the reason

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why if you do, you're probably
going to be in last place. And

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that's why the Dodgers are a winning
team and have been for the last ten

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to fifteen years, because they have
a bunch of veterans and they sprinkle in

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these rookies or these second year players. So that's a rookie mistake, no

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doubt about it. Second thing was
why the hell is Walker Buehller throwing Corey

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Seger a foreseen fastball when he's behind
in the count and Seger just fouled off

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a slider. There's a reason why
Walker Buehler threw the foreseen fastball less than

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I have ever seen it. In
fact, he threw it less Intonight's start

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than he has in a start since
twenty eighteen. That was his rookie season.

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Why not double up on the slider. That's a pitch that Seger may

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chase out of the strike zone.
In fact, he's hitting only a buck

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thirty eight against sliders this year.
So that was poor pitch sequencing between Will

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Smith and Walker Buehler To throw that
pitch to Corey seger who they know better

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than anybody. It's not ironic,
it's not funny, it's not a coincidence.

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No, it was bad. That
was bad baseball right there, and

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Corey seger Man just reminds you of
how life was with Corey Seeger at shortstop

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for the Dodgers tonight he was the
DH for the Rangers. And the third

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thing that stuck out to me was
something that I mentioned on the pregame show

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and to Petro some money earlier today. They said, what is this going

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to come down to for Walker Buehler
to be successful tonight? And I said,

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getting ahead early in counts and not
throwing pitches behind the count. The

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innings that Walker Buehler was in the
most trouble was the innings that he threw

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the most pitches behind in the count, and in fact, not coincidentally in

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this case, he threw the most
pitches in these innings as well. He

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was in trouble in the first inning, and he threw six of his nineteen

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pitches in the first inning behind in
the count, second inning, only two

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clean inning, third inning, he
never threw behind in the count. That

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was prob probably his best inning of
the game. Tonight, in the fourth

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inning, he got in trouble again. He threw six of his twenty one

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pitches in that inning behind in the
count, and then the disastrous fifth inning.

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Eight of his twenty nine pitches in
the fifth inning were thrown behind in

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the count and to Corey Seger,
he was never ahead in the count.

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Every one of the pitches he threw
to Corey Seger in that at bat in

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the fifth inning, he was behind
in the count. And that's what his

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undoing is. It's not about the
pitch shaping. It's not about the forcing

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fastball, I guess to a certain
extent, and maybe no, it's about

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pitching ahead in the count. And
this goes back to two years ago.

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Before he heard his elbow, he
was thrown behind in the count and he

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was getting frustrated and trying to bully
hitters with his fastball. That's just not

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happening anymore. And he is making
the adjustments. You have to give him

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credit for that. He put in
a lot of work with Connor McGinnis to

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find a different type of grip for
his slider. It was, according to

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him, better than what he had
seen in his previous seven starts. But

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it comes down to not throwing pitches
behind in the count. And you know

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who turned me onto this three years
ago, and he is going to hate

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that I'm saying this was Mike Sooshia. Yeah, that Mike Soosha, the

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guy that is a two time World
Series champion catcher and a World Series champion

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manager, and a guy that has
caught more games in Dodger franchise history than

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anybody else. So he knows a
thing of two about the pitcher catcher relationship

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and how to call a game.
And ever since he turned me onto that,

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I mean, it resonates. You
see it. When guys are throwing

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pitches behind in the count, they
are in trouble. And we saw that

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tonight in those three in Walker Buehler, the first, the fourth, and

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the fifth inning. Like I mentioned, Corey Seger coming back to Dodger Stadium.

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He did not play last night because
of a sore left hamstring. He

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did play tonight, not as a
shortstop but as the Rangers DH and his

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home run in the fifth inning was
the difference in the game tonight. And

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here was Corey Seeger after the game
with Bally Sports Texas. Corey, that

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one got a little dramatic there at
the end. How about that play from

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Leoti to Marcus to Jonah to win
this one. Yeah, you know,

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I want to throw most crucial part
of the game too, you know.

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To be able to do that and
get away with the wind, you know,

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that's a huge play, huge play. I know it's huge for you

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to get to play today after missing
yesterday. This crowd obviously loved you.

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What was it like to hit a
home run here for the other side,

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Yeah, you know, it was
just nice to get back out there.

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You know, you always want to
be out there with your guys, so

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anytime you can get out there,
it was nice. And you know,

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you just got a good pitch to
hit and put a good swing on the

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ball and kind of go luck,
you know, and we'll take it right

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now. Corey, You've added a
lot of power to your game since coming

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to the Rangers. You hit some
home runs here, But how is it

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like to hit this many home runs
and be able to hit one at Dodger

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Stadium? Yeah, you know,
you're just trying to plug in swings the

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ball, just tacking certain areas and
getting lucky. You know, I wouldn't

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say it's anything You're trying to do. It's just kind of happening, all

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right. There is Corey Seeger on
Bally Sports Texas eight six six nine eight

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seven two five seventy is the phone
number. Let's go out to Riverside.

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Michael, You're on Dodger Talk with
David vasse Hi. Michael, Hi,

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David, how are you. I'm
doing well? Love talking baseball. There

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was a lot to talk about tonight, Yes, definitely. So do you

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think maybe Andy Payez should get bench
for one game for doing that? Or

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No? That doesn't solve anything these
days. How is he going to learn?

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I mean, that's only going to
compound at things I believe if he

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sits tomorrow. Yeah, I hear
you, and then you're right Walker Bueler

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dorawing too many pitches behind an account. So anyway, but that's how I

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had David. I just wanted to
see what you had to say about it.

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Yeah, no worries, Michael,
thank you for the phone call.

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And look, that's something that Andy
pa has will learn from and I'm sure

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Dino Ebel will go over with him
tomorrow. I've learned over time that you

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just don't, you know, go
up to the player right after the game

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and say this is what you did
wrong? Why did you go through my

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stop sign? No, that's not
the way you approach things, and know

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you don't bench a player. That's
not how you approach things either. Let's

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go out to Chatsworth, Michael,
you're on Dodger Talk. How you doing,

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Michael, Hi, David, I'm
doing really good. Thank you so

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much for taking the time to take
my call. My pleasure, any anything

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for anybody from Chatsworth. Awesome.
So the other day I was reading an

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article online saying that the Toronto Boue
Jays could be open to trading Boba schet.

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Now I know we made a trade
with them early today, and I

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was wondering what your thoughts were on
possibly getting Bobaschett to be our shortstop if

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the daughters aren't contible with Mookie being
at shortstop. No way. Yeah,

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I wouldn't rule it out, Michael. Even though ros Atkins was on MLB

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Network radio last week saying publicly he
was not going to trade Bobashitt or Vladimir

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Guerrero Junior, my understanding is the
Blue Jays are not shutting the door on

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that, and I'm sure if things
continue to go the way they're going for

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the Blue Jays, they're going to
have to make a decision because they're coming

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to a crossroads with those two players
because they are going to be free agents

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at the end of next season.
And as we learned with as we learn

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with players, it's it's not just
one sided, right. The players got

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to want to stay there. And
I have not heard Vlad Junior or Bobashit

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say I want to be a Blue
Jay for life. So if if the

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Blue Jays are getting the feeling that
Bobaschett is not going to sign an extension

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there, then they probably would benefit
themselves by trading him now and bring in

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more talent because they're not going to
tear it down. There's a lot of

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pressure in Canada right now for the
Blue Jays to compete. So simple answer,

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Michael, I wouldn't rule it out. And who knows. While Andrew

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Friedman was talking to Ross Atkins for
Calvin Bigio, you never know, maybe

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Bobaschett's name came up in that conversation
as well. Yeah, yeah, I

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mean, I'm all for it.
I mean, I think he'd be a

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I think he'd be a great addition
to the Dodgers. Yeah, he's having

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a down year so far, but
maybe, like Calvin Bigio, getting out

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of Toronto with those expectations and getting
to the Dodgers, a change of scenery

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might change his season around. Thanks
for the phone call, Michael. Maybe

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see you at Los Toros one day. Eight sixty six ninety seven, two

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five seventy is the phone number.
Dodgers fall to the Rangers tonight three to

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two. Let's head downstairs right now
to hear from manager Dave Roberts on the

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play that ended the game, Andy
pie has running through the stop sign and

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being thrown out at the plate for
the final out of the game. You

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know, it's it's a learning it's
a learning experience. It's we've already talked

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to him a little bit about it, and you know, it's it's one

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thing to be defiant and to run
through a stop sign when you see it,

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and there's another thing about trying to
make a play, trying to be

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aggressive seeing the babble in the outfield, and that's what he did. You

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know, he just didn't have his
head up to pick up Dino, who

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was clearly holding holding him up.
But it still took a perfect throw executed

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relay and they made a great play, really good baseball play, and so

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you know, it's something that we
addressed and Andy's doing great. So it's

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one of those things that we have
a young player who doesn't have a lot

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of experience, you got to run
him out there, and that's how they

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learned. One of the you guys, H Clayton talked to him. I

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think Dino talked to him. But
it's certainly not a reprimand situation. It's

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just a teaching moment. Was his
reactions understanding, you know, talking about

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what he saw, which was which
it was a bobble, and he was

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he was going hard, he was
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So it's something we'll learn from.
All right, there's manager Dave Roberts,

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and really there's no debate about it. It is a learning experience.

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It's not a second guest type of
thing. Dino Ebel had to stop sign

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up and Andy pae Has ran through
it and he was thrown out. And

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Dave Roberts is right. It took
a perfect relay and accurate throw from actually

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one of the best middle infielders,
Marcus Simeon. That's part of the reason

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why Dino Ebel had the stop sign
up because he knew how good of an

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arm and accurate arm Marcus Simeon has, and he was getting the ball and

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gathering himself as Paz was starting to
approach third base. So when you have

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a player like Marcus Simeon making the
relay throw, might be wise to stay

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at third base. Eight six six
nine eight seven two five seventy is the

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phone number. Let's go out to
South Pasadena, Christoph. You're on Dodger

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Talk with David vasse Hi. Christoph, Hey, David, how you doing

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man, I'm doing great. What
do you got for me tonight? Well?

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I was actually at the game.
Great game all in all. I

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love how the fans like stayed all
through the end hoping that we can you

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know, get him in the ninth. Obviously that didn't happen, But also

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just great to see Corey Seeger.
One of my favorite players, one of

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like in terms of raw talent,
one of the best to wear the Dodger

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uniform. I do have a comment
about Cavin Bigio. You know, he

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made that air and I'm just kind
of curious, does he typically like play

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third base or second base like I'm
just kind of curious if like it's you

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know, it's third base specifically the
you know, the his strongest decision.

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Okay, so here's what I got
for you, Christoph. I got a

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text from some people in Toronto earlier
today and I wanted to know about Calvin

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Bigio and they told me he's a
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but shortstop. They never said anywhere
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some stories and columns from the guys
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writing like third base was his weakest
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judges of that. My understanding is
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more open to swing adjustments and maybe, uh, getting with the Dodgers and

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hearing from Aaron Bates and Rob van
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of things. But we'll see how
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Kevin Bigio, he's a he's a
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player. Uh. The Dodgers want
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if they're gonna stick with him the
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gonna say, you know, what. We gave this a shot, no

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harm, no foul, and we're
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Yeah, totally, and I totally
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error, we'd be tied once Will
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yeah, yeah, ah no,
that was a great game. But thanks

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for taking my call. Do you
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biography, Christoph, I would love
that? Yeah, sure, all right,

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all right, here it is.
We're getting close to the ten year

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anniversary of Clayton kershaws one and only
career no hitter against the Rockies. Can

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you tell me who made the last
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It was a strikeout? It was
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my goodness. See that's why I
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guess, oh my left handed batter. If I'm not mistaken, I don't

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remember. I'm sorry, man,
I I don't remember who he struck out.

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All I know is it was a
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That's uh, you know what,
because you're a true blue Dodger fan,

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and I want to spread the word
of Andy McCullough and Clayton Kershaw.

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It's a great book. I'm going
to get you a copy of the Last

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of his Kind. And the answer
was Christophe Corey Dickerson. He was the

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follower of Clayton Kershaw's one and only
career no hitter. So hold on Christoph

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in South Pasadena will get a copy. And we still have one more to

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give away between now and eleven.
Thirty eight six six seven, two five

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seventy is the phone number. Let's
go out to Ken in Newport Beach.

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You're on Dodger Talk. What a
shock, Ken calling after a loss.

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How are you doing? Ken?
Great to hear from see your streak is

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alive. You have like a hitting
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Dodger lose can call? How was
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time this time? I did.
We got home at a normal hour.

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We're not stuck on the tarmac for
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was electric at Yankee Stadium. It
was a great time. You did not

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call, by the way, after
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I've been sick. I'm sorry.
I just want to make in spite of

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the deposit. Pazis. Do Dodger
losses make you feel better? Ken?

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Yeah, they do. When I
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better Okay, Sorry, I don't
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because I think he's got a lot
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get Bueller was all over the place. You have your best left hander in

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the bullpen. Why would you allow
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almost inevitable that was going to happen. And I've seen this way too much

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with Dave. Why don't you bring
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the reason is, Ken, it's
the middle of June. You want Buehler

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to try to figure this out between
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That's the reason why. And it
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pitcher and the catcher. Why are
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fastball which they only threw four times
before that pitch to Corey Seeger, That's

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the biggest question. Yeah, I
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left hand in right there. If
it's the playoff where if you're in a

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do or die situation in September.
Yes, Ken, but there's a bigger

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picture here and it involves Walker Bueler. Yeah, I agree, I agree.

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All right, we hope you feel
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man, Okay, take care there, he goes Ken in Newport Beach.

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Eight six six nine eighty seven two
five seventy is the phone number Roy and

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Santa Monica. Before you give me
your opinion, you want to take a

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crack at another Kershaw no hitter related
question for a copy of Andy McCullough's Last

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of His Kind book, of course. Okay, all right, So I

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just told our caller in South Pasadena
that Corey Dickerson was the final out of

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that no hitter. It was a
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in his one and only career no
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No, But go ahead with your
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of things, Dave. First of
all, one guy that Dodger said did

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not give as that too was Miguel
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and got twenty at bats. And
you know, if that guy's gonna make

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it amajor that it's gonna be on
his dad. And you know, meanwhile,

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you got guys sitting one hundred at
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I understand that it's just the he
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Roy, and that's the problem.
Well, I had to put him

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at third with Monsie down because he
came up. Originally he was a third

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baseman. Yeah, well, you
know he needs he needs to show what

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he can do. I mean,
why even bring him up and set him

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on the bench. You know,
Roy, I'm with you. I want

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Miguel Vargas to get an opportunity,
but the reality is that opportunity might come

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in another UNI because if the Dodgers
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for a player like Luis Robert or
Bobaschett, more than likely other teams are

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going to want Miguel Vargas. Yeah. Yeah, Techonitely, Dave, you

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think we're gonna see the ban of
Jimmy Outmanstune? And thirdly, I'm confused

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on who the Dodger broadcasters are because
I know Rick's former partners he out for

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the year or retiring or what happened
there. Yeah, Charlie Steiner has been

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out with a back injury, Roy, and he is recovering not as quickly

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as he would like. So right
now his return is TBD. And in

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his place is Tim Neverett, who
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on the radio the last few years
five years, I believe it is now,

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and Steven Nelson slides over when he's
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So, uh, that's how we're
covering things until Charlie returns. Yeah,

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I miss Charlie. I mean the
guys you mentioned, they're all they're great,

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they're all good, but Charlie.
Yeah, Charlie's Charlie is one of

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the best broadcasters of our generation.
Yeah yeah, all right, Roy,

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thanks a lot for the phone call. Roy. We'll talk to you soon,

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Okay, Yeah, maybe I'll see
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Okay, all right, look for
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two five seventy is the phone number. Look, Miguel Vargus is going to

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get his opportunity. It may not
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My understanding is the Dodgers are very
pleased with the way he is playing

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at Oklahoma City, and he may
be playing his way towards another opportunity in

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the big leagues with the Dodgers sometime
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wait and see. But last check
two days ago, Autman was hitting over

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three hundred with an NOPs of one
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something with his swing. And you
know, getting every day at bats will

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do that for you. And we'll
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Let's take another phone call Michael in
Lake Forest. Do you want to take

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a crack at the Kershawn no hit
or trivia? Yeah? Hey, Dave,

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it's been a while, and thank
you very much for receiving my phone

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call. Haven't the last time I
we didn't see the eye to eye,

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So it's been a while. Well
that's okay. I don't see how to

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eye with a lot of people.
But that's what makes baseball great, right,

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It's not just the game, it's
the debate after the game. Yes,

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sir, But I appreciate you,
Dave, because one thing I know

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about you for sure as a as
a sixty five year old Dodger fan and

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started and brooke and you have a
definite Dodger blue Heart. So that's really

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cool. Thank you. Growing up
in La my whole life. Yeah,

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I grew up a Dodger fan and
I listened to Dodger Talk on a regular

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basis. So I'm living my dream
job. That's for sure. Mike.

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Uh, that's for sure, Michael. Yeah, I would. I would.

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I would be remiss if I didn't
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him so much, no doubt,
Michael. All Right, Michael. There's

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a few things I know and I
remember about stats. Once was the five

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consecutive home runs comeback, Orlando Hudson's
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about I believe that was Opening day, Opening Day, if I'm not mistaken.

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If I'm not mistaken, it was
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say. Could I take a guess, Yeah, take a guess at how

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many strikeouts kershaw I had in his
no hitter, which, by the way,

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many can the greatest game pitched by
any pitcher in baseball history. Yeah,

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I mean, I remember that.
It was kind of like magic as

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that's going on. Though. You
give me the number, real, give

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me the number, yes, fifteen, Michael, Thank the Lord, Yes,

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fifteen. Yes, Michael, there
you go. You got a copy,

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Yes, you got it, the
last of his kind. Happy Father's

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Day, Michael. You enjoy Andy's
book. Thank goodness, he got it.

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Love you, Michael. Yes,
fifteen strikeouts and that is the first

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time and still is the only time
in baseball history that a pitcher had fifteen

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strikeouts in a game without allowing a
walk or a hit. It would have

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been a perfect game if old Hanley
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first base, but it turned out
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the greatest single game pitched in Major
League Baseball history, many consider.

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We're gonna take a time out here
on Dodger Talk. When we continue,

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we will check in with Jose Mota, get his thoughts on what he saw

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tonight from Seeger, from Bueler,
from Andy Pajs. The Dodgers fall to

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the Rangers tonight three to two on
a five to seventy LA Sports on air

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available my podcast on the iHeartRadio app. This is Dodger Talk with David Masson

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another full count for John Gray,
oh Tani Drills the ball right field tosses,

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the bat man watches it fly back
to that game to the home run

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for show, Hey old Tani.
That's number seventeen four, number seventeen,

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and the Dodgers have the early lead. Show Hey Otani giving the Dodgers and

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early lead tonight in the first inning
off of John Gray, Otani's home run

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went an estimated four hundred and twenty
four feet. Tonight, as the Dodgers

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get a home run by Otani,
but not much else as they fall to

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the Rangers three to two. Daniel's
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the horn with Jose Mota, All
right, Jose Mota. Let's get to

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the final play of the game.
Andy pah has running through the stop signed

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by Dino Ebel number one? Did
you believe Dino should have given him the

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stop sign? Knowing that in this
day and age of baseball, it has

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to be a perfect relay like it
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plate and be why wasn't Andy pater
Has picking up his third base coach Dino

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was right and putting on the stop
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inning right there and then the game
the way he did so, Dino was

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right, Dina. In fact,
there's something that a lot of coaches don't

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do. You know, we'll go
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see in face and face as he's
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oty Pius Commune made a mistake.
Dave Roberts said it well, and you

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said it well. Today is part
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Hopefully they apply it, learn about
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make sure does not scape. It's
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win championships. Sometimes in the minor
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not pointed out to some people.
I'm not generalizing here, but players need

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to learn that sometimes the expectations are
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happened to New York by not sliding
right. So things like this do compile

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and they make a list and say, okay, here's some things that perhaps

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the prospects need to learn a little
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one of them is actually, you
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that comes to play. Okay,
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thought Dino made the right call by
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play devil's advocate here. A lot
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reason why he may hold up a
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with the number nine hitter Calvin Bigio, who you know, he not known

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for his bat these days, you
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playing devil's advocate No matter what.
I don't care who's batting after him.

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lot of pitches. They spend tho
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bat by Will Smith, got him
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finally got the split finger. But
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there. That's exactly what you know, the brakes on it and forgot like

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pies again, you know, pick
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one that's guilty if he sends your
not but is not your decision in that

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situation. So I'm glad he,
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camera and said, yeah, he
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which is a mistake to run with
your head down. Okay, Jose Mota.

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The other pivotal point in this game
is Corey Seeger's three run home run.

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That was the difference in the game. How did just see Will Smith

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and Walker Buehler coming to the decision
to throw Seeger, a notorious fastball hitter,

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a four seam fastball, this one. I can go a long ways

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and explaining as to why, and
I know that it doesn't make any sense.

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Okay. Corey Seger is hitting two
o four against four seam fastballs this

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year, okay, and slugging three
sixty seven last year six point fifteen against

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four seam or hit three o four. Now, which pitcher is making this

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pitch? It has a lot to
do with that. How much command do

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you have to make that pitch?
And also how confident do you know as

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a somebody that knows him so well
that he's not gonna just aim and say,

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hey, dig said likes to challenge
guys. He's got that attitude of

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you can't get it by me.
I think there's a lot of elements and

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things that go into the circumstances day. But you know, in the back

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of the mind of somebody, especially
in the modern game, they're thinking,

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Hey, also, the reports said
he's not very good against forcing fasciles.

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But when you have not thrown it
a whole lot, it's very good chance

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that you're going to miss your spot. So you know it, Cook's missing

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forcing fastballs that are not down the
middle of the play, which you're not

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supposed to miss if your core Sieger, But in this case, I think

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the sequence should have been better.
Yeah, that's the frustrating part, right,

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Jose. Nowadays a lot of times
pitchers are not pitching to their strengths.

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They're trying to pitch to the hitter's
weakness. And you know, there's

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a reason why Walker Buehler had only
thrown four foreseen fastballs the entire game.

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He must not have felt great with
it. And yeah, I mean,

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Seeger is what Seeger is this year, but we all know who he is,

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and he's a really good fastball hitter. All right, there's a reason

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why they throw forcing fastballs and batting
practice round down the heart of the play

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because everybody can hit it. I
mean, if there's a mistake, right

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and lots of you doesn't matter in
that case where you're training yourself to say

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I can't get on top of this
baseball, can drive this baseball. But

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yeah, I mean, you know, the instinct of pitching, the instinct

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of catching is something that you know. Unfortunately, in the modern leagues there's

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a lot of information being given and
the big League the same thing. And

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in this case, I know that
you know he threw a lot of two

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seemens because the two semer was good. Even though truly speaking, if you

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look at his graphic today, he
got hit hard with a lot of pitches.

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A lot of balls will hit on
the on the button in their outs.

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But I can't take away from a
guy like walking Bud of the fact

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that his lyne does not look as
bad as maybe we think. Again,

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victim of another defensive play where a
play was not made and he was not

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able to get out of that any
which is another subject here today because it

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happened in Pittsburgh and he's got to
get over this where he's not the guy

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that he was years ago. He
could get there, I think, because

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the velocity's there, the spinners there. But you know, when somebody makes

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a mistake behind you is sometimes some
of the biggest things that you get to

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overcome to say do I have enough
of me to get out of this inning?

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After I threw to get out of
this enemy and Dierra Cospi And that's

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also a mental hurdle when guys are
coming back from injurws saying I want every

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one of my pitches to count.
If I throw for an out, I

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want to be an out. But
when it's not, you got to just

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get over that and say I have
enough to get out of this inning.

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Jose Mota is joining us after the
Rangers beat the Dodgers tonight three to two

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in the middle game of this three
game series. All right, you mentioned

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him. Calvin Bigio, who the
Dodgers acquired officially this morning, got the

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start at third base, makes a
crucial error there in the fifth inning.

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What do you think about this move
and what do you know about Calvin Bigio

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that makes you believe that he can
be a good role player on this team.

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I hope he becomes a good role
player for this team because he can

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play some outfield for you can play
first base, second, as you mentioned

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in third base. But he has
to prove that he is a good big

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league player. I mean, if
we are gauging everything only on watts,

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the fact that he takes a lot
of pitches. He has a very low

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swing rate, and the Bluejays have
been tried with him to be more aggressive

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because he does have such knowledge of
the strike zone. But it's going to

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keep him the big leagues and be
productive, maybe one day become an everyday

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player swinging the bat and today make
good contact guy. It was beautiful to

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see him go the other way that
he made a nice heart out the right

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field. But he's going to have
to first of all, catch a baseball

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number one and then be versatile enough
to make plays that he's supposed to make

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and be able to turn the page
on the Blue Yes, when they decided

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we have had enough and we're going
to put him, you know, designate

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him. You know that they're pretty
much around the course and we don't just

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don't see that he's making the adjustment. So he comes here. Adjustments need

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to be made, and the biggest
one is talking to people in Toronto today,

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did they want him to swing the
bat a little bit more like day

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told Juan Soda New York, talking
about a little bit more Wan Soda where

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he is now. Yeah, that
makes sense. And maybe also part of

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this equation is the Dodgers want to
get that lineup turned over as much as

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possible, even if it means Calvin
Bigio taking a walk, yes, and

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working counts, which is a valuable
point. And after the game today,

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he may not hit two eighty or
two sixty, but there's gonna be times

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in the bottom of that lineup where
he's gonna work counts and turn the lineup

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around. And you're looking for people
on base, you know, in front

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of Woki Vets and Johiltani, And
perhaps he feels that role nicely, but

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for that to happen consistently, he's
gonna also have to perform consistently by giving

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the value some good at bats.
Josea, I'm hearing that it's weeks until

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months he comes back. Is that
part of this equation too? That is

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too so now you have an open
door saying we know what Miguel rons can

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do. He has been contributing mildly. Kik hearn Anders has given a great

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opportunity, but also they're gonna left
at bat and a gat that takes pitches

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in prolongingting and prolongs at that.
So it's almost like which formula are going

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to use knowing that he's not going
to provide the power that Monthly provides.

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But what is the best option in
tying him up to the bottom of third

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now with Pajes Heyward getting back at
his group and then the walk, I

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think is formuland perhaps they're looking for
it to be meaningful, to be productive,

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and you know, I think with
more runs on the board today from

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the top, it would have been
just fine. All right, Thanks Hose,

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appreciate all this. We'll check in
with you tomorrow night the rubber match

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between the Dodgers and Rangers. Premiamigo
Buenos Noche Jose Mota, part of the

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Dodgers Spanish radio broadcast with Pete and
Ningez and Fernando Vealnezuela. Before we say

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good night, I want to wish
a happy birthday to the drummer for the

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Ringo Star All Star Band, a
huge Dodger fan that I ran into tonight

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and a good friend Greg Bissonette.
I was down there looking for some concession

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eats, and there he was,
Greg Bissonette at Dodger Stadium, compliments of

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his friends at Marongo, celebrating his
birthday. And he bought me the chicken

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casedia at the Fanfare concession stand instead
of me buying his Dodger dog. So

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happy birthday, Greg, and appreciate
the gift of food you gave me tonight.

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And also, of course tonight,
I can't say goodnight without paying respects

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to Jerry West. First class by
the Dodgers to hold a moment of silence

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for Jerry West. Everybody in Los
Angeles loved Jerry West. He loved the

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fans of Los Angeles. Wherever he
went. He never said no to an

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autograph, He never said no to
a photograph. And I got to say

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that I was lucky enough to be
able to be included in an annual dinner

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with Jerry West and the longtime Herald
Examiner columnist Doug Crick. Each of the

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last five or six years we went
to places like Phil Trainey's in Long Beach,

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the Dalray and Pico RIVERA. Yes, Jerry West and I and Doug

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00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:16.000
Gricrian had dinner back in twenty twenty
one at the Dalray and Pico Rivera and

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the whole place went nuts. And
after we were done with dinner, Jerry

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West took pictures with the staff,
with the customers. It was awesome and

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Jerry West was awesome. And he
was so transparent. You know, maybe

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he did not use as much colorful
language in public as he did privately,

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but everything you heard him say publicly
is the way he felt privately. So

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we're gonna miss Jerry West. He
meant everything to this city. You know,

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growing up my dad, my uncles, there were two people they talked

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about the most. Their names were
Jerry West and Elgin Baylor. That's those

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two guys captured the imagination of the
city when the Lakers moved here in nineteen

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sixty. Jerry West is probably the
greatest Laker of all time because of how

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great of a player he was.
Then was asked to coach, and he

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did a great job at that,
even though it made him crazy. Then

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he went in as an executive and
did a great job with not only managing

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the showtime Lakers and drafting James Worthy
to add to that showtime, but also

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when Magic Johnson retired, he found
a way to rebuild the Lakers and signed

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Shaquille O'Neal and trade for Kobe Bryant, who nobody knew about back then.

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That's his legacy, you know.
I know, showtime was up and running

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and he was just you know,
not getting in the way. But I

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mean, come on. He in
the process of signing Shaquille O'Neal, he

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traded Vlade Divac to be able to
make a trade with the Hornets for or

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Kobe Bryant, and at the last
minute he did not have enough cap space

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to sign Shack and he found a
way to clear roster space by trading George

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00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:16.320
Lynch and Anthony Peeler to the Vancouver
Grizzlies to clear enough space to sign Shaquille

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O'Neal. If they do not get
Shaquille O'Neal, all they got is a

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teenage kid named Kobe Bryant with the
Lakers. But I'm Jerry west Man,

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eighty six years old. He is
going to be missed. And I could

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tell you this at those dinners.
The one thing he talked about a lot

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was the competitive golf games he had
against Michael Jordan. He loved talking trash

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00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:44.119
to Michael Jordan, and Michael Jordan
loved hearing trash talking from Jerry West.

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And he also one thing that is
underappreciated about Jerry West. He won the

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gold medal in nineteen sixty. He
was so proud of that accomplishment and he

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loved that team. He loved playing
with Oscar Robertson and man, he lived

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a great life, but that doesn't
make it any easier. And my love

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goes out to Karen West, his
wife. She is a great woman,

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strong woman, and his sons who
are great people as well. We're thinking

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about you, and just know the
whole city is wrapping their arms around you

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because we all loved your dad,
your husband, and he's gonna be missed.

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Man, there is nobody like Jerry
West gonna miss him. That'll do

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it for us on Dodger Talk tonight, thanks to calling ye back at our

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Burbank studios, Thanks to Dwayne McDonald
out here at Dodger Stadium, and thanks

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to you for listening. In case
you missed our pregame conversation with Corey Seeger,

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you can find it on the iHeartRadio
app and that's where you can find

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every Dodger Talk episode and interview.
Just search Dodger Talk on the iHeartRadio app

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once again. The final score tonight
from Dodger Stadium, Corey Seeger and the

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Rangers defeat the Dodgers three to two. Up next, Ben Maller on Fox

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Sports Radio. Have a great rest
of your night. See you think it's so broad