1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,559 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:21,519 in the UK and around the world. All right, every one of their 3 00:00:21,519 --> 00:00:26,800 own right gating from a more turn right a test operation restriction area. Two 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,079 fives are away, Arry thirty wine, Roger traffickers wine Alominate Centa is exhibiting 5 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:35,320 some novelistic motion of them. Roger are is thirty one, continue to sign 6 00:00:35,359 --> 00:00:39,399 a Joe dispression of us. Okay, the traffick broking head on all the 7 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,399 right and really love me right by right now. There are a thousand UFO 8 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,920 sightings reported around the world every month. Ninety percent of these sightings can be 9 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,960 explained, but ten percent cannot. Officially and unofficially, the US military has 10 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,119 been investigating UFOs since nineteen forty seven. Their top secret goal is to know 11 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:07,040 what's behind these unexplained sightings. The Pentagon classifies them as unusual airborne anomalies, 12 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,439 but a better term is X files. Join us now as Mac one one 13 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:19,519 and Commander Cobra explore these unsolved cases UFO incidents that baffle even the US military. 14 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:26,519 This is macmloney's Military X files, and now here's macmloney. Well good 15 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,359 evening of when a waton Macmiloney's Military File show here on the Distant Thunder Radio 16 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,799 Network. This is Mac maloney and what I show We have and stow for 17 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,920 you tonight, befrest. Let me introduce the members of the posse. Girls. 18 00:01:38,359 --> 00:01:40,799 They're ready to sit down, get your missed to, get your big 19 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:44,280 box of cleaning, your big box of wifes, your squeegee and yellu because 20 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,239 he's there. They're very famous. One one, Hello, girls, Hello 21 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:53,200 ladies, Hello everybody, Welcome to the show. Good to see you Mac. 22 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,560 Good to see everybody. Good to be here, good to be anywhere, 23 00:01:57,239 --> 00:02:00,959 Good to be anywhere. What's going on? Don't over there? Absolutely 24 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:06,719 across the pond, whether it's gotten gott a little bit better. It's been 25 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,879 raining for a week, yes, off and on. It's sort of like 26 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:14,719 New England weather. Huh, and it really bumps me out. I mean 27 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,560 all the locals say, well, you know you got to wear your rain 28 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,759 gear. Oh. I mean there's there's a store that just sells nothing but 29 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,639 h waterproof everything. Why does that not approach to ye as if you're a 30 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:30,759 fisherman or something. Yeah, yeah, you're kind of stylish. Waterproof everything 31 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:35,719 they like to carry an umbrella, you know what. Yeah, self flagellation 32 00:02:35,879 --> 00:02:38,039 means. Do you know what that means? Self flagellation, What that means? 33 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,199 Yeah, it doesn't means what you probably think it means. It means 34 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,280 you know, I'm always the modern you know what I mean? Yeah, 35 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:47,280 And I think that's how the British people is just ingrained in them. Oh, 36 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:51,439 we put up with so much, you know, own they love it 37 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,840 and they like Actually they don't. It's funny. They don't like it, 38 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:58,479 yes, but they don't like it. And then they do. They complain 39 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,520 about it more than I do. They don't like it. They've lived with 40 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,840 it all their lives. They think it's terrible. There's there's summers. The 41 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,800 joke is that you know, it's summer, it's only raining a little bit 42 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:16,400 seven days a week, and go ahead. And that's how they live their 43 00:03:16,439 --> 00:03:20,639 life. And they and they laugh about it, and they say, look 44 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,039 at crazy American Okay, yes, And of course a lot of the Brits, 45 00:03:24,199 --> 00:03:29,919 you know, have Polish accents, So look at crazy American Polish accents. 46 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:35,039 Where are you. There's a lot of Polish, a lot of Lithuanian 47 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,400 and Ukrainian here. Yeah, that's truly. And they have the coolest accents 48 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:44,000 actually, okay, yeah they do. Yeah. You get the woman that's 49 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,599 sold sold our new sofa was from. She says, where do you think 50 00:03:46,599 --> 00:03:53,280 I'm from? I said, Poland, No, Lithuania okay, And I 51 00:03:53,319 --> 00:04:00,439 could have bought ten sofas from this check. Wow, I can only fit 52 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,919 one of the in the cottage. But you know, yeah, a lot 53 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,120 of a lot of and you know some of them sound Russian too. It's 54 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:11,520 probably Russian. It's that accent is kind of uh, with a little bit 55 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,120 of a twist, can be from anywhere. Yeah, yeah, sure, 56 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,959 anyway, your nice Wow, when they're behind the counter, when you're trying 57 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:21,079 to buy something and you don't quite understand you're not picking up the accent. 58 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,399 Yes, but the locals do. You keep asking, I'm sorry, but 59 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,759 would you say again? You know it's and then it becomes a bit more 60 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,480 clean. You get used to it. Yeah, yeah, you get used 61 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,759 to the dialects. I'm trying to get used to the joint. You know. 62 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:39,399 That's what's going on with me. Well, on with this soldier, 63 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,120 brave soldiers, all as how it goes, Yeah, being on with my 64 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,800 with my wellies and my brollies. Yes, I didn't even want to know 65 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,800 what that means. Well it is. Anyone said, Bob's your uncle, 66 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:58,319 not yet, and it always are Wellington's that those green boots that you see 67 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:01,399 the queen wearing that come up almost like, yeah, four inches below. 68 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,199 They buried her in her wellies, didn't they didn't they get and then they 69 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,519 gave her a bottle and put a bottle of gin in their casket. I 70 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:15,399 drink it. Yeah, okay, she went out, She went out anyway, 71 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,600 No tonight out there day in the world. But a natural correspondence switch 72 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:24,199 played Steve Waughters. This would she It's great to be here tonight. Mack. 73 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,079 He looks like he's in prison, doesn't They bars behind him there, 74 00:05:30,759 --> 00:05:34,800 I check special effects. That's the an ethereal moth man behind me, ever 75 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,600 ever present, always looking for my shoulder. Okay. It was just like 76 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:42,600 we couldn't see his face, he saw the bars. Just seeing the orange 77 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:48,120 shirt. You really looked like, you know, on prison and uh oh 78 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,680 a red shirt? What's it? Might not make it? See the start 79 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,439 track and sing you oh yeah yeah yeah. When they killed guy. Yeah, 80 00:05:57,519 --> 00:06:02,720 okay, lost communications here, Okay, we can hear you. You 81 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,480 might be traveling to our part of the world there soon. Yes, okay, 82 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:13,519 don't wear that. Okay, don't even bring that. Hey, listen, 83 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,040 I got all kinds of cool shirts, man, Okay, I could 84 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,319 wear one shirt every hour on the half hour. Please don't do that. 85 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:23,639 Okay, all right, thank you. You have your mcmlaloney uniform in case 86 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:29,839 we need it somewhere. You know, my my shirts get piled up like 87 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,720 layers of top soil, and they're clean, but then you know they some 88 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:36,759 of them get kind of pushed underneath not see them for months, so I 89 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:44,680 have to look okay, all right anyway, Nope, Club tonight. Club 90 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,839 is going south. He's going south to the border, down to North Carolina 91 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:53,240 to visit friends. So clublest Tonight, however, Oh, first of all 92 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,680 in the studio with us is Uncle Allow, the Kiddy's pal al Ronaldo. 93 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,279 You're a Paul mechanic slash getaway driver. Oh Mac, hello, everyone, 94 00:07:04,199 --> 00:07:09,560 what's what's what's happening? Was the beat keeper of Plumb Island down The bees 95 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,920 are doing okay. I mean we had like two days of sunny weather so 96 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:17,720 and then again today it's raining again. So yeah, they were very active. 97 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:21,279 They're coming and going, they're they're doing their thing. Hopefully there's uh 98 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:25,399 something in the hives. When I go to take it out next month, 99 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,040 it's gonna steal all their food, not all of it, but the golden 100 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:31,680 rods blooming right now, so they should be into the golden rod pretty good, 101 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,040 Oh goody, they're always so you're not allergic to golden rod. You 102 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,560 don't seeze when you're pulling out golden rod based honey. Then when they process 103 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:44,040 it you can you can't tell what it came out of it. And now 104 00:07:44,079 --> 00:07:47,160 you never have an allergy issue with it. The thing, we don't have 105 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:53,000 allergy issues when we were consuming your honey. No, you never wouldn't you 106 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,519 know it's boiled. Don't you boil it? No, I don't do any 107 00:07:55,519 --> 00:08:00,199 it's rocking. Yeah. If you boil it, you destroyed all of the 108 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:03,160 high all the good stuff the bees. But man, that that stuff comes, 109 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,360 I extract that like the stuff I gave to uh the missus the other 110 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:11,959 day. It was in the hive two hours before I gave it. Wow, 111 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,240 huh. I strained it through a real fine screen check the chunks of 112 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:18,560 wax out. But that's it. Well, it was on my toast and 113 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:24,160 lah, there you go anyway an oak club, but a very good witch 114 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:26,879 up there in sideways and yeah, because but this raven raven? How you 115 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,879 doing tonight? Hi, my friends, thank you so much for having me. 116 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,080 I'm doing great. Okay, okay, get your glasses on. Get 117 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,879 the glasses on. That's that's kind of sick. Why there, I say 118 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,039 it kind of the sec with everything going on there is that probably not. 119 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,039 I woke up and my my eyes were just like on fire from all the 120 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,960 smoke that we still have coming through years. So I figured contacts, we're 121 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,679 not a good idea. Freaking Canadians Still the Canadian fires are still bugging you 122 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:58,720 peoples. Yeah, we're still getting like because we're like in a valley, 123 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,440 so we're getting like all of that's just kind of tunneled right down and it 124 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,799 doesn't linger like it was, but it's still just kind of passing through. 125 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,440 Yeah. Yeah, we've I mean, we've had you know, a couple 126 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,879 of days of it. I could even just small something in the but that 127 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:13,120 was a while of them. Yeah, they can't get that out of the 128 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,639 control, but just letting it, you know, I don't know, burn 129 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,600 itself up. So's already burn more acreage than more size than the United States. 130 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,919 And then where we got global warming and you know all this stuff going 131 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,279 on. Yeah, I know this is something. I mean, it seems 132 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:28,960 like you should have the military or something fighting those things, you know what 133 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,879 I mean. But anyway, that's just the bonies, right, what else 134 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:37,159 did they do? Anyway? So, well, we have an interesting show 135 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,320 for you tonight. We're gonna be talking about a bunch of things, which 136 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,360 is report. I'm gonna be talking to Greg Mastow in a little while about 137 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:48,200 the dangers of AI and I read well, I don't want to say every 138 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:54,799 story I say, you know on my news feed about AI, but I 139 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:58,000 you'll read enough of them to know that I don't understand this. All idea 140 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,679 how they're going to take us over and all that stuff. I don't get 141 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,720 it. To me. It's just one hugely glorified FAQ, right fact thing. 142 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:09,320 It only contains the knowledge that we put in it. It's not thinking 143 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,799 on its own, or at least that's how I think, right for I 144 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,960 don't know, maybe I'm wrong. So we'll ask Greg from video game designer 145 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,600 friend. Greg mastered him in a while and I started to write a top 146 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,360 ten and it was like top ten reasons, Uh, you know switches, 147 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,840 cats will lead him when he dies that you know, one of those things. 148 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,399 Yeah, it's that one and uh and then I said, didn't we 149 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,200 use this before? And then you know, I get distracted by something, 150 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:46,440 so no top tens and ironically club isn't here to enjoy it. But I 151 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:52,200 read this weird story today, very strange, and and I know we've done 152 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,559 this before, but I get caught. I get caught in the rabbit hole 153 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,080 on online and because that, you know, I click onto these things. 154 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,559 I keep getting more and more stories and it's like just weird things that have 155 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:09,399 happened to people, just weird, you know, not UFOs, any crypton 156 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,960 and just weird stuff too. You know, they put out a survey and 157 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,919 these people answer them. And I know we talked about this a while ago 158 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,279 where I remember I was like paying three out of a bucket of Volkswai can 159 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,840 buck and I'm that's all the money I had in the wheel and I had 160 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,600 to spread out on my kitchen table and I was kind of thinking it, 161 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,919 waiting for the guy to come and give me the car meetium the money, 162 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,360 and I was kind one more time, and one of the twenties just fell 163 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,039 on the floor and went underneath this touch covert in the kitchen. So I 164 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,080 said, okay, you know, and I saw it. I saw it. 165 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,759 Never found it again. We moved the hutch covert. Everything looked, 166 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:50,600 looked in the bottom kind of nothing. Never found it, and which was 167 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:54,399 weird. But this one person said, you know, I'm just in in 168 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,360 the middle name my living room. I have my cell phone. Something makes 169 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:01,120 me drop it. I drop, but I hear it drop, okay, 170 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:05,120 and then I go to look for it and it's not there. I can't 171 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:09,559 find it. I can't find it. So she gets another phone and calls 172 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,039 the number and it turns out, ye know, the signal is can't be 173 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:18,320 found or something like that. So anyway, so I'm going to ask one 174 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,600 one if I have anything strange like that happened to you. Is this like 175 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,240 it goes into some I don't know, alternate worlds are a different that matrix 176 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,000 thing. Go ahead, Is this the story about you in the wagon and 177 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,799 the moving truck? Yeah right, okay, go ahead, tell us, 178 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,399 okay, want to hear that story there? The whole story? Yeah, 179 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:43,399 yeah, an abbreviated version would be good. Go ahead. You're sitting on 180 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,440 the corner in your little wagon right were the red wagon is. You know 181 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:52,720 the wagons that you can you know, right in you can radio flyer sit 182 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:56,360 in it, yes, pull things with it. Anyway, I'm sitting in 183 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,000 the red wagon not doing anything other than, you know, minding my own 184 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,120 business. I'm on the sidewalk in front of my house, and across the 185 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:09,360 street there is a sort of a small industrial park in which is a Allied 186 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:15,000 van Lines moving in storage place. But who cares. That's place has been 187 00:13:15,039 --> 00:13:20,600 there forever. So I'm in my red wagon and I spot something in the 188 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,279 lawn, you know, and our property in the lawn that's sort of just 189 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:28,200 glimmered and caught my eye and had no idea what it was. So I 190 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:33,279 get out of my red wagon and I walk over about ten feet to the 191 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:39,600 spot in the lawn looking for something that caught my eye, and I really 192 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,480 can't find anything. But that's not the point. But what I heard was 193 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:46,440 a noise. I turned around in this an Allied van Line tractor trailer coming 194 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:50,240 up with a like a big you know, like fifty foot or you know, 195 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:56,679 these low load of the ground tall, long, and he's he's a 196 00:13:56,799 --> 00:14:01,600 double dual wheels and the tractor you know, and runs over the right over 197 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:07,799 the red wagon. He jumped the curb. He clearly the driver was from 198 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:11,960 out of It was a led Van Line's company that was from way out of 199 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,200 town. Maybe it wasn't used to making that turn. It to a ninety 200 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,480 degree turn, go on the street that we lived on, yes, to 201 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:24,159 get out of Cambridge, and ran over the red wagon. Wow. Pretty 202 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:31,000 much three quarters crushed it. Wow. Yeah. And it was so quiet 203 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:35,000 too. It's like all of a sudden it's there and then it's it's sort 204 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:39,519 of grunting as it's going going over to stop. The guy sees it stops 205 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:45,320 and I feel what happened after that? I sort of like ran away. 206 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,159 It's something. I'm like, I don't know what I do about this. 207 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,120 Yeah, you'm out of here. Yeah, like somehow you thought you were 208 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,279 in trouble. Stopped thinking he might have hit something, but looked and didn't 209 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:56,639 see anything and just went up. You know, he just went up the 210 00:14:56,639 --> 00:14:58,919 street. Was that it? I mean, did you sue him or anything? 211 00:15:00,159 --> 00:15:03,120 You're doing it now? No, we didn't get it, get his 212 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,039 normal. We didn't bought my parents. My parents were in the house. 213 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,799 I just like, you know, hey, guess what happened like after the 214 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:13,960 fact, you cool, Yeah, we didn't stop the guy. The guy, 215 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,120 but didn't this a traffic light further up? You know, he probably 216 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:20,639 probably could have grabbed him there and say, what's the story? I found 217 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:24,639 out from Allied Vanlanch who was that truck that just left? These days would 218 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:28,519 be one one van Mines if you were still happen to him, you know. 219 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,480 So all right, I'm gonna go. So I'm gonna Raven, can 220 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:33,559 you tell us a similar story, just some weird thing that's happened to you? 221 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:41,720 Yeah, Like mine's like similar to yours, and like this it's so 222 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,159 mundane, but like this is the one that like sticks out because this has 223 00:15:45,159 --> 00:15:46,279 happened to me a few times, but for some reason, this is the 224 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:50,720 one I remember. I must have been like I don't know, four or 225 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,679 five, and I had a polly pocket. Okay, you guys know what 226 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:56,840 polly pockets are. No, I never heard of it. What did it 227 00:15:56,879 --> 00:15:58,759 know? Oh my god. So they're like these little little things, like 228 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:03,120 these little heart shaped containers, little boxes, and you open it up and 229 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,399 there was like a little house inside, and they had like those these little 230 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,879 action figures that you could put a super cute any nineties, you know, 231 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:15,039 a little kid had one, so as at my grandmother's house. And I 232 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,200 had this cool poly pocket and it had a swan with it, and I 233 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:22,440 never had a swan with a polypocket ever. So I'm playing with it and 234 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,240 I dropped it on the floor. Now there was like it was carpeted, 235 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:33,519 and it wasn't like thick shag carpeting. It was like a low carpeted rug. 236 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,039 You could have easily seen this thing, and it's like it fell into 237 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:40,679 a black hole. It was never seen again. And I looked for it 238 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,759 for hours, obsessing over it because that was the only one I ever had, 239 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:51,120 and you know Amazon didn't exist order one, not in that dimension anyway. 240 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,279 But see, that's the same thing that happened to me, the same 241 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:59,159 thing happened to this person online today. Is that just something happens and it 242 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:03,279 just there's I mean, there's a whole that quantum physics stuff that actually there's 243 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,799 what is it? Uh? Everything is just a game of chance. You 244 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:11,400 know, I could put my hand through this wall, you know, one 245 00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:14,799 one times at a four hundred trillion or something, right, but it would 246 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:18,240 happen, It can physically happen, so maybe that's what happens. But you 247 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,640 know, when something falls, maybe who knows. Let's see, I've go 248 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,079 to al Al. You must have a nice short story about I mean, 249 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:33,000 you know nothing to that degree. But you know in my house, I 250 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:38,279 have a crawlspace under the house, if you will. It's not a real 251 00:17:38,319 --> 00:17:42,599 full seller. Yes, and it's short, and it gets shorter as you 252 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,480 go deeper in and uh, it's just sand floor and it's beach sand, 253 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:51,680 so it's very very fine sand. You got down there with anything in your 254 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,200 pockets, You go down there with anything in your hand and you drop it. 255 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,160 It's gone forever. Yeah, it's gone forever. And I have actually 256 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,240 been down there working and kicking around, and I'll find a wrench that's been 257 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:08,160 there probably for seventy five years because somebody else dropped it. So it's just 258 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,599 one of these things that you know it's out of your hands and again you 259 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,359 don't even move and you look down it's gone. Yes, it's Uh. 260 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:22,480 Crawl space is one of those words that you hear it this automatically thing missing 261 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,720 relatives, you know, I found. I found the bones under way one 262 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:34,640 time other than the house. For no I found the bones, but it 263 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,559 wasn't in this house. It was an old house we rented, Okay, 264 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:44,519 there was. The floor was really soft from uh water, you know, 265 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:47,720 water getting in and damaging it. So we were going to rip out the 266 00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:51,640 floor and replace it, and so we cut out the real rotted parts, 267 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,839 but it was still has some bounce to it. So before we covered it 268 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:00,359 over with new plywood, I was told get under there, and they dropped 269 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,680 down some cement blocks, like drag over into the middle and stack them up 270 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,759 and put some wood, you know. So I'm doing that, and I've 271 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:10,839 got an extension light on a long wire and I'm sorting light down there, 272 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,279 and I'm way away from the hole and I'm down and it's kind of you 273 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:18,160 know, bumpy down and so I take my hands and I'm trying to clear 274 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,000 off a flat spot to put the cement block, and I started hitting bones, 275 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,960 and I started hitting bones that were big, big bones, not like 276 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:30,680 leg bones size, you know. And and then of course the person up 277 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,359 top had no idea what was going on, but being funny, he unplugged 278 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:38,559 the light just so now I'm down with a bunch of bones, and you 279 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:41,880 know the light the tunnel, you know, the light to get out is 280 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,599 down there, and it was not it was kind of exciting. Well what 281 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:48,519 kind of bones? I never actually I didn't find a skull, so I 282 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:52,440 couldn't say what exactly. But they were big. But it was either a 283 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:59,640 large animal like you know, or somebody's husband or wife. But when I 284 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,839 ended up doing was, I sort of moved some sand next to it and 285 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,599 said, listen, I'm sorry I bothered you. I put the bones back 286 00:20:06,599 --> 00:20:07,680 in the hole. I covered it back up. Yeah, a little religious 287 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,759 ceremony. I just I covered my I covered my basis. And that house 288 00:20:12,839 --> 00:20:18,440 was that house was haunted. It was. There was so much stuff going 289 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,559 on in that house. Okay, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 290 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:26,400 previous owner. That meant occupant. Yep. So when I get back out 291 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,000 of the hole, I you know, we threw the plywood down, nailed 292 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,279 it down, and like no one said boo. Ever again it's still probably 293 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:37,519 Clayton, the social Security checks, probably the grandma. Anyway, listen, 294 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:41,359 switching you must hold it. Did you have to disclose that situation? Messages? 295 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,400 I was a renter. Oh he's a renting Okay, he's coming. 296 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:51,519 Switch you must have. Well it's another uh you know, you can't find 297 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:56,799 it and it won't show up. I had the uh the water garbage build 298 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,519 come and I said it at a particular spot on top of the little bookcase. 299 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:06,000 And when I went to find it, it wasn't there. So I 300 00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:07,839 went through all the paper and then I went to other stacks of papers just 301 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,599 in case I put it somewhere else. And I thought, oh, it'll 302 00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:12,400 turn up. It's got to be. I mean, I'm looking on the 303 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,359 floor. There's only so many places you can fly. Maybe it felled into 304 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,559 the bookcase anyway, So it wasn't turning up, so I thought, oh 305 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:23,119 my god. So I actually started cleaning the place. I moved the bookcase 306 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:27,000 and started sweeping back there. It's not there. But I did see a 307 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:32,599 couple enormous dust bunnies, bigger than I've ever seen, to the point they 308 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,240 were almost sentient. I was afraid if I didn't destroy them, my comp 309 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,400 alive. Yes. Anyway, I actually went to downtown to pay the bill 310 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,160 and I still have not found that. Wow wow wow see, And that's 311 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,480 we'll tell them the same story, you know what I mean, like someone 312 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:49,960 that has fallen that you just hey, we're sure it's fallen and you just 313 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,000 can't find it. But mine head dust bunnies in it. I think they 314 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,440 ate it. Neil Moss, what are you drinking this witchy water? Oh 315 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:03,240 okay, all right, you've been thinking. Okay, one of the other 316 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,720 weird stories that I've read today, this was like really strange. So this 317 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:12,640 guy as a kid, he goes and he test drives some car right and 318 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:18,200 in between all that, he loses his wallet. He can't find his wallet. 319 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:19,680 They don't know where it is, so on itself. What years go 320 00:22:19,759 --> 00:22:26,359 by, he's moving, he rents a ride of truck, he drops something 321 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,839 on the floor. When he goes down to get it, he sees a 322 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,240 wallet underneath that seat and it's his wallet. I'm thinking that it was such 323 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:38,759 a way wake Linsdens, you know. But anyway, so speaking a scary 324 00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:45,200 story switch which I have for breakfast today? This morning for breakfast, I 325 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:52,680 had Cereal, I had Captain Crunch. Hang on, hang on, yeah, 326 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,000 why don't we clapp I him? Please? I'm We're gonna have to 327 00:22:56,039 --> 00:23:00,599 really wow sweets. Yeah, make you want to have a second ball. 328 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,720 Yeah, oh I love it. In college, Baby, when that came 329 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,839 out, it was like they go to you know, they finally corrected Captain 330 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,079 Crunch, They found captain and he's captain. He was always had the wrong 331 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,480 number of bars. Oh will, oh will. Yeah. Yeah, so 332 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,359 they finally corrected and put the fourth bar bar. I guess to makee him 333 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,039 a captain because for all these years he's only had like three stripes and it 334 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:26,160 wasn't I guess, Lieutenant Commander Crunch. Yeah, it doesn't roll off the 335 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,279 time they corrected that, I guess In the latest. Wow, I love 336 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,160 that stuff. I know it's just to get back pay nothing, but yeah 337 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,319 he should. I was gonna say that's some brand attorney at work. But 338 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,240 anyway, Wow, so why did you have it in the house? Switch? 339 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,759 I bought it? Really? Yeah, you're not ashamed of it, 340 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,680 you know, a wealthy man about challenge, Yes, you know, fixing 341 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:56,160 it up a bit. Okay, maybe not wealthy to get captain. Yes, 342 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,680 maybe they got pulled out of moth Man's don't say that that's gone Ryan. 343 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,519 So wait wait, get the peanut butter or is it regular? Regular? 344 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,279 Regular? Yeah? Yeah, baby steps, Baby steps, Tess but 345 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,880 listen, don't you think that the elder peanut fire the elder ladies around town. 346 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,240 I'm gonna say that goes the moth Man guy. Yeah, yep, 347 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,680 yes, yeah, when they when they find out I worked at the moth 348 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,880 fam Museum. Yes, for the person that they ask is where's the county 349 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,160 line? And how quickly can I get? Oh? Come on, switch 350 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:36,279 see stop picking up my friend switch look, And then the other one can 351 00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:41,599 say yeah, and he loves Captain crunch, right, I suppose that's a 352 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,599 you know, not too many people know yet. I mean, this is 353 00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:45,680 the first place I've announced it, so just kind of tap dance, yeah, 354 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,599 switchy. So anyway, so, uh so you had a bowl of 355 00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:53,079 how many balls? Too? No? I had one? Really? What 356 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,839 kind of melt pace myself? Two percent milk? Yep, two percent milk 357 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:03,480 coffee. I make some hot black coffee. Yeah, okay, right, 358 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,519 I can't do two percent milk with Syrial. Have to have you have to 359 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:11,880 have real milk in Syrial. Let me too. As we were driving along 360 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:17,119 Route one today and Riley, you know, there's there's two diners like wait 361 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,039 next to each other, sum and one of them said, biscuits and gravy, 362 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,200 and of course Lewis, no, no, this is on the side. 363 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,839 It's up the governor dumb mel of them, that governor d and the 364 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,880 Governor's academy. Now as yeah, they thought they took out of it. 365 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:38,880 As we're going by, you know, Lewis is going to usually ninety five, 366 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:42,000 so we couldn't stop, you know, but we're going back this so 367 00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:49,960 that place. I don't know why she does drive fast both to the police. 368 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,599 She should have bought my challenger. Oh no, no, no, 369 00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:59,519 no, no no. However, anytime any and maybe the three times we've 370 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:06,039 been up law enforcement with her behind the wheel without acting, she just automatically 371 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,480 cries, okay, just like in the cops. You know, a couple 372 00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:12,880 it's worked a couple of times, hasn't quite worked a couple of times. 373 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,559 But then she goes when you say it hasn't quite worked. Where she got 374 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,799 just a warning, right, No, no, no, always been a 375 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,960 yeah, just a warning twice and then and then nothing those other times. 376 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:26,200 No, no, twice got a ticket and then went and how you can 377 00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:30,359 you know, magstrate, you go to the magistrate and give you a side 378 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,480 of storage. She goes in there and cries and you know, I got 379 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,000 off one time. I went in with felt to cut this up. So 380 00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:44,480 we go in right and and this is doesn't show a little skin or anything 381 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:45,599 like that. No, no, no, no, hang on, getting 382 00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:51,759 ahead is right? And we went and they say to me, it's an 383 00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:55,960 empty courtroom, but it's big. And the guy says to me, you 384 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,519 can sit in the back row, but you can't talk, you know, 385 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,839 to your wife, right, okay, So they bring her down. She's 386 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,119 at one table, and then the prosecutor was a cop is at another table, 387 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,720 and there's like a judge magistating how what do you want it? So 388 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:14,400 I can't really hear them, you know, but I see the cop like 389 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:18,680 all of a sudden, he's running around. He's looking through Yeah, and 390 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,119 he finds the blocks of clinics and puts it in front of low. Yeah. 391 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Yeah, yeah. It took about thirty seconds after that and I'll slow 392 00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:30,920 down. Yeah, so it worked for me. Yeah, I don't know 393 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,720 about you. I don't know, you look good an orange there switches. 394 00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:38,279 So the best one I got out of just real quick. Go ahead on 395 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:45,119 the motorcycle, going like an animal and four lane traffic. The guy shoots 396 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,079 through three lanes to hit me going in the opposite direction. Really yeah huh, 397 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,640 and catches me doing like ninety and the thirty and I forget he hasn't 398 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,559 he got nothing. So I I pulled right over like, yeah, sure, 399 00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:02,400 what do you got? And he and with the ticket for ninety and 400 00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:07,359 thirty and nine and a thirty. Right, So he says, you know, 401 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,240 blah blah blah blah blah, give me the hard time. So I 402 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:11,359 said, all right, well, you know, where's the court. I'm 403 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,440 gonna go fight this in court and everything, so are you. I was 404 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,319 in Methuin, oh okay, okay, on the low large boulevard, which 405 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:22,119 is you know, I think they want to let you out of there. 406 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,559 So anyway, I go to the see the magistrate and with it that was 407 00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:30,920 it was. It was like you're in the court house, you get down 408 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,240 this little stairway to nowhere, and you're go in this little tiny office which 409 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,160 you know, was the size of this studio, nothing fancy, and I 410 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,599 sit down with the guy's a big overweight guy, and he's like he looks 411 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,440 at me, he goes, yeah, you're gonna defend against this, Well 412 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,119 come on, and I'm like, well, you know the judge last, 413 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,039 and I'm like, look, he was shooting through three lanes of traffic and 414 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,559 medium traffic according to the cop and he hits a motorcycle through that. I'm 415 00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,960 like, come on, that's ridiculous. He's like, no, no, 416 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,559 I think this is gonna have to go to a judge. So I said, 417 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:03,480 all right, look, could you do me a favor. He's like, 418 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:06,440 you know what's that? I said, I lost my copy of the 419 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,359 ticket. Could you make me as could you see a rock staff for me? 420 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,680 So I have a copy, and he says yeah, sure. So 421 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,559 he gets up and he walks right outside the door and right three feet away 422 00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:19,160 from the doors the xerox machine. He puts my ticket in, closes the 423 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,359 top, hits the button, comes walking back in and hits hands me the 424 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,799 copy. Yes, he never took the original out of the machine. Yes. 425 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,519 So we talked for a couple more minutes and then he goes down. 426 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,519 He starts looking through the draw and go okay, thank you very much. 427 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,440 He goes all right, I'll see about scheduling the thing. I walk out. 428 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,759 I opened the thing, I grabbed the ticket out of the machine, 429 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:42,079 closed the door, and I walk out. Never heard boom again. Yes, 430 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,359 how much you put that in a book? Wow? Wow, Okay, 431 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,079 that's cool man. I mean, you know you take him to we 432 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:55,440 get him, you know, you know there's no UFOs involved. When I 433 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,640 got out of college, the five thousand dollars where a pocket ticket, Yeah, 434 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,720 from pocketing in front of Emerson Film School for two years and they would 435 00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,440 it was crazy they did it. They kind of catcher you know. I 436 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,640 ain't never paid. And then I had to moved back to the state and 437 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,559 uh ye know, I've relative called a friend and with the push of a 438 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:18,559 button and like a bottle of sigmams, they were gone, you know, 439 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,119 which would have been a lot because I would have had to retake my driver's 440 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,880 license or stuff like that. So no one wanted that anyway. So anyway, 441 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,880 somebody, somehow, all your tickets got expunged. Yes, yeah, 442 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,079 Hall the pocket disappeared or they were somebody put them down and never found them 443 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,039 again something. Yeah, they put them down. They fell on the floor 444 00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:44,279 and they would never found. They went underneath something. And when they take 445 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:48,240 the corner start of the building, this guy was I'm sure I haven't involved. 446 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,559 It is probably onto the Great Beyond, but this guy was the next 447 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:55,279 motorcycle cop kind of in our area, and he worked for the registry and 448 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:57,920 then he got in an accident, so he was desk duty, you know, 449 00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:03,039 so you know how things were going back then you know someone knows someone 450 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:10,720 and uh yeah, it literally took a bottle of chevice push they put at 451 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,799 his mother's house and everything was cool. So thank you wherever you are off 452 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,799 anyway, I'll tell you what, why don't we do? Why don't we 453 00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,640 take a break now? Right? I think that's a good idea, okay, 454 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:26,960 And I'm looking at Ul as if you would know, like like my 455 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,960 opinion account, feel the pulse of the show's clubs me. All right, 456 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,519 so why don't we take a quick bick now? And when? Will be 457 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,680 right back and listen to Macmoney's militracks on show here on the Distant Thunder Radio 458 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:45,400 Network. Stay tuned. Hawk Hunter the Wingman has finally ridded the world if 459 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,079 it's worst ever supervillain Victor Robotov, but Ian mac Maloney's like this book War 460 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,920 of Dragons, we learned the maniacal terrorist coast steal Hans are battered devastated planet 461 00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:59,440 in War of Dragons book twenty two. In Max's best selling Wingman series Hawk 462 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,880 in his unit, did American allies uncovered Victor's bizarre plot from beyond the Grave. 463 00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:10,680 The super terrorist hid six nuclear bombs around the Mediterranean before he died, 464 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,599 knowing their dead nation will empty out the Great Sea and cause a worldwide catastrophe. 465 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:20,440 Guarding these weapons of mass destruction, He's left behind a family of ferocious 466 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,480 air dragons he knel, aerial sentinels that will stop at nothing to protect their 467 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:34,240 late master's unthinkable secrets. Sailing avoid their gigantic aircraft carrier, the USS USA 468 00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,640 Hawk and the United Americans must battle their way across the Mediterranean, slaying these 469 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,880 dragons in hopes of beating Victor's allies to the nuke's secret locations before time runs 470 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,880 up. If not, then the world will face a very nasty, very 471 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:55,839 watery armageddon. Its Game of Thrones meets Top Gone in Wingmen twenty two. 472 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:30,359 War of Dragons by mcmaloney on sale now on Amazon. Welcome back if I 473 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,119 went to mcmoney's both tracks our show here on the Distant Thunder Radio nowhere this 474 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:37,559 is mcmloney. Wow, what a show. We have a few tonight. 475 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,720 Very quickly, the posty girls famous one one is a very famous Sorry, 476 00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,680 fellow girls. Hello, everybody, welcome to the show. It should be 477 00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:49,880 fun tonight putting there with us the state of the end, because there's always 478 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,519 a punchline towards the end, isn't there there? We hope? So no 479 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,440 Coco tonight. I'll save in the planet. I'll have a switch blade. 480 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:04,279 Steve Waters, Yeah, national correspondent down there in West Virginia, switching? 481 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:15,639 Thank you? Does that thing talk? I'm locked up in his house. 482 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:23,000 I want to fly to the light. Anyway, we we're waiting to switch. 483 00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:29,039 Raven Good a good friend up there in sideways and yeah, Raven, 484 00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,440 how are you tonight? Hello, my friends, I'm doing great. Thanks 485 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,039 for having me. How's the head? He had them? Now? It 486 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:38,800 looks kind of mysterious, especially it's super dark in this room tonight for some 487 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:45,320 reason. But there's a there's a little little bun up here. Yeah, 488 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,960 you know that is what it is. How's lonely Larry these days? I 489 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,480 haven't talked to them. Let me think when was the last time I saw 490 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:57,880 him? I think it was a few weeks ago. We went to there's 491 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:05,320 a coffee shop that opened up up up the roadaways and uh, you know 492 00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:08,599 that was interesting. Yeah, and we want to a bookstore and then a 493 00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:14,400 little brewery and then they got, uh, what's the chicken things that people 494 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:22,159 get? Chicken chicken dinners? Chicken chicken dinnis okay and mister Raven got chicken 495 00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:27,039 dinners. Okay? You meantime I saw him. Hm. He sent me 496 00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:30,840 a T shirt. I still haven't been able to figure out. It says 497 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,719 on it a great day but not now? What does it? Didn't have 498 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,679 any day? What that means a great day? Gave one to mister Raven? 499 00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:42,440 Is it I had? I had a great day, but today wasn't 500 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,360 it? Or something something like that? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, 501 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,920 okay, is it a bright like it's very bright? Yes, exactly, 502 00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:52,960 very bright? Meon Kellor, right, Okay. So I haven't responded 503 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,960 to him because I don't want to reward that kind of behavior. Frankly, 504 00:35:55,039 --> 00:36:00,519 he has always let h meil me like really crazy stuff, like a really 505 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,239 nicely framed picture of ra and Hatch, who was some politician from Utah. 506 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,639 I don't I just don't get the humor in the me because he as he 507 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,159 reached out questioning the shirt. No, no, I'll have to get no 508 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:22,440 non gonna strong strong arm you against yourself right knowing him. Yes, I 509 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:24,760 still have the case I me and Cotton once with five dimes taped on it, 510 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,599 and that was it I'm supposed to get. Is that a joke? 511 00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:35,039 It's a pretty up the wrong person. I don't know. All right, 512 00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,760 here's Switchy, Hey, switch what you what you do? Go eat another 513 00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:46,360 ball with Captain Crunch's not there? That wasn't the punch line. We've been 514 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,079 Switchy. Yeah, we've been on the f of five minutes. Sabra, 515 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,800 what do you have? Another? Kevi? Another ball of the Crunch? 516 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,199 I know we thought you thought the Mothman did something nefarious with you because he 517 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,159 was standing there. Yeah, while you were going No, actually I control 518 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,960 them a man, And if I haven't take care of my enemies these days, 519 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:14,840 does he control you? But so, anyway, we're gonna talk about 520 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,000 AI tonight, Artificial intelligence. Greg Massell is going to be joining us in 521 00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:24,760 a little while. I've mentioned before that you know, usually read two or 522 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,320 three AI stories during the week. A lot of them are kind of boring, 523 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,000 and can tell that some of them A duck and Donuts story. Did 524 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,079 you just did I send that to you. We shouldn't steve that Duncan domats. 525 00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,840 Now look at this is really Dunkin Donuts. Was did you hear the 526 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,599 news? A sham operation the last out of twenty years. But yeah, 527 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,840 yeah, yeah, but aren't they ever? And here's here's another thing. 528 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,679 Enough is in that story night so Duncan knows that everyone knows it. But 529 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,039 they used to have really great homemade dumas. Now they're frozen, processed. 530 00:37:54,159 --> 00:38:00,639 It's like it's horrible. But the latest is they're gonna start selling alcoholic Duncan 531 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:07,239 doughnuts, cans of stuff. Yeah, the coffee bruising, coffee bruise and 532 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,519 booze and do that. When I worked their way way way way way back 533 00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:14,360 in the day, they had the cool adas. They were like the fruit 534 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,440 one. Yes, yes, on a late night we would just you know, 535 00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:21,199 put a little rum and put it in a coolata and mix it up 536 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,679 and have a nice little, you know, blast, groovy little time. 537 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,480 Yeah yeah, yeah. What was the one that was kind of like coffee? 538 00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:30,800 It was kind of chocolatey coffee. I had one and as much caffeine 539 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,039 and I felt like I was blasting off of the moon. So if you 540 00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:35,840 put a little like espresso. Yeah like that. Yeah, it was like 541 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,679 but almost like a milkshake. It literally was a milkshank. So that's the 542 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,159 cool at. I don't know if they're still called that. I haven't worked 543 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,559 there in quite some time. But it's all like sugar, so it's all 544 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,039 that it is. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, to get 545 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:51,199 you high as hell. And and now they're gonna start selling booze in this 546 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,840 it's so far weak called duncan spiked or something like that. Yeah, yeah, 547 00:38:53,880 --> 00:39:00,880 duncans how Yeah, the drive too's gonna be mobbed with drunk people. 548 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:07,280 But the coffee stout type of thing. Yeah, no, no, it's 549 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,639 in cans and bottles, cans and bottles, but you you will be able 550 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:14,480 to buy it at your local DD. So I don't know they're like, 551 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,280 now they're gonna be like a bar or something crazy. It's stupid. Yeah, 552 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,840 that's all the dunkin Donuts needs. I can tell you some horror stories 553 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,679 the night. Tell us to hear some of those, Yeah, tell it's 554 00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:27,719 fine. I used to be a big fan of Duck and Donuts me too. 555 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,239 I used to drive cross not cross country, but a cross many states 556 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,920 on one trip just for fun. Yeah, and I always wanted to see 557 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,719 if I could kid every Dunk and Donuts on the map on my on my 558 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:46,639 travels either. They were like three in one town that crazy one time when 559 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,000 she was with me in one of these trips. And you take dunk and 560 00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:52,840 trips, you just had a coffee five minutes ago. That's why it needs 561 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:58,440 another one. Switch you know what we're talking about. And yeah, you 562 00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:00,320 know, Okay, so they're done. They were every now I'm assuming right, 563 00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:04,280 it's what I named after a guy named Duncan. By the way, 564 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,679 No, that's sounding. I went down to Huntington, yes to go see 565 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:12,079 a movie last night, and I saw Duncan Donuts down there. I don't 566 00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:16,280 see too many around. Yeah. I actually saw the latest Tom Cruise movie, 567 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,599 Impossible really all right, just just just just the Grade A through D 568 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,559 A really. Yeah. They said it's not as bad as the old, 569 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,320 older ones. Yeah, they said it's not it's not that bad, right 570 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,199 it was? I think it was. I can remember the name of it. 571 00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:42,119 Mission Impossible ethan Ghost Hawaiian or something like that. It's only part one. 572 00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,280 I mean it was a super long flick, so now part two might 573 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,840 be like a day and a half when it comes out, it's a pot 574 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,280 one. Really, it's a two part one. Yeah. They had several 575 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,960 uh sort of cliffhangers, unresolved parts, and I kept waiting. I kept 576 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,480 thinking, Okay, here's where they could have the cliffhanger. Nope, number 577 00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:02,199 five ten and it's here's where they're gonna have the cliffhanger. Another half hour. 578 00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,639 Man, I thought I was gonna, you know, hit my second 579 00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,559 retirement by the time, so was the was a theater crowded? No? 580 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,760 No, okay, because that's you know, CRUI night in the middle of 581 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,000 nowhere. Okay, it's not in the middle of nowhere, but it's been 582 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,239 out for a while, you know nothing. It's called Dead Reckoning part one. 583 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,719 That's it, right, that's it right, And he's two coming out. 584 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,239 I have no idea. He probably doesn't even know the tooth but doesn't 585 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,320 even go off. There's those those stunts he does himself, which is insane 586 00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:36,440 because they're on YouTube and they're showing them. Doesn't even go off a cliff 587 00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:40,320 or something, the parasites like double seven. Yeah, but that's that's gonna 588 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,039 be something that's gonna be cgi or you know, the person that is expendable. 589 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,239 They got. They got a trailer out showing how they challenge how they 590 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,920 did it, and it looks like Tom was it was, it was. 591 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:58,320 It was a great flick. I mean, you know, you're just going 592 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,320 for the action, the car chase. It isn't the the mcguffin is kind 593 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,920 of uh, it's kind of interesting, you know, but it's just in 594 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,840 the backdrop, and you know, every a while you get a little bit 595 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,559 of dialogue. They kind of explain a few things, and then there's more 596 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,880 chase, of more beatings, more more bad guys and good guys fighting. 597 00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,159 I mean, some of the early ones that just incomprehensible. The plot is 598 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,480 just the first one. Listen. I actually it's just I'm surprise and I 599 00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:28,519 went to go see another mission impossible. I hated the first one. They 600 00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:32,079 made Jim Phelps a bad guy, and I thought, you bastards, and 601 00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:35,559 so I wouldn't. I didn't, didn't didn't go to any of them for 602 00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:38,199 decades. Okay, Well, huh, Jim Felps was a good guy on 603 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,119 the show, right, Yes, yep, it was the boss? Was 604 00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,920 that? Oh that's right? Okay? Was that Peter Graves or Peter Graves 605 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,000 and there was somebody else too. There was a switch shop for the first 606 00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:54,360 The first season was Stephen Hill. Stephen Hill from Lauren Orta. Yep, 607 00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:59,880 uh so uh letting Nimoy was on that show twice as long as he was 608 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,920 on Star Track. Is that right? So he was on that show four 609 00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:05,800 years. I don't know. I didn't want. I mean, I watched 610 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,920 the show every once in a while, but I didn't he came off, 611 00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:15,239 he went on when Martin Landoine came off Brobervaane number her. Sure, Oh 612 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,679 yeah, anyway, it looks like I guess to see us. Why don't 613 00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:21,960 we take our commiscial break now and we'll be right back. Let me say 614 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:27,360 one thing about Dead Wrecking Okay two Yes, comes out June twenty twenty four, 615 00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:31,400 barring any delays from those strikes. It must be shot. It must 616 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,159 have shot one long movie at once, which is smart, and then you 617 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,360 cut it in half. Did you see Top Gun two switchy? Yeah, 618 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,360 excellent, It's almost a perfect film. Don't say that. Why did I 619 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:50,519 have to drive down there around? Not doesn't get all excited to go see 620 00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:54,719 a Tom Cruise film normally, but this is uh mac a is a The 621 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,239 thing is what it is. Reality is reality, and I am an objective 622 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,239 reporter here. Okay, yeah, take that, Mac said the person with 623 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,760 the mouth man shower curtain behind him. Oh that's right. I just destroy 624 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,360 the illusion. I'm the guy that controls moth Man to take care of my 625 00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:17,199 enemies. Really, okay, she's gonna there's gonna be some retribution back that 626 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:23,559 Top Gun movie. That Top Gun movie is on MGM Plus or whatever it's 627 00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:27,800 which is part of one of the cable packages I have, and it's on 628 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,840 all the time. ELL's wife his wife, and I'll come home, like 629 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,159 probably tonight, I'll come home, she'll be from the show and she'll be 630 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,280 halfway through watching Top Gun again and she's watched it six seven times minimum. 631 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,880 And I'm like, okay, if you're like, God, bless her, 632 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,639 you know, I mean about that you want, don't get into that. 633 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,960 That's the dog. She just likes the movie. I don't know. I 634 00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:59,800 mean when she when she latches onto something, she just you know, Okay, 635 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,159 we're getting close to the Christmas season. Get We're gonna get ones where 636 00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:07,719 you know, I love the ones where Santa is on a bender, you 637 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,800 know, and again, just say Christmas or you know, get him off 638 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:19,039 the cocaine again. Cocaine are stop Billy Bob Thornton and this one too. 639 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,079 What else is he doing? All right, let's let me do this. 640 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,559 He need I used to walk around with what's her name's blood around his Yeah, 641 00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:31,079 he had a violin. Yeah. He always looked like an looked like 642 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:36,840 he was not healthy. He's disgusting. Loved him. He's great in Goliath. 643 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,960 You gotta watch Goliath if you haven't seen it. Goliath is David and 644 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:45,360 Goliath. He plays Goliath. Oh, this is a it's a Billy Bob 645 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,719 Thornton is a X big shot in the big shot law firm. Oh okay, 646 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,400 So he's a little bit down and out. He's gonna got to climb 647 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,519 up the ladder in the weirdest way possible. Okay, cool? Remember sling 648 00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:01,440 blades? Sway? Yeah? Really switch flight? Right? Why don't you 649 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,400 do that? I'm that Why don't we think it? Right now? And 650 00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,039 you're listening to mclaney's military I'll show here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network, 651 00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:16,639 Please stay tune. UFOs are found in Renaissance art, on ancient coins, 652 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:22,880 and etched on cave walls. They're even reported in the Bible. But more 653 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:29,559 surprising is when UFOs are seen the most in times of war. Through centuries, 654 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,079 thousands of UFO sightings have been made by high ranking officials, military pilots, 655 00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:37,840 and ordinary soldiers. Often, these fantastic appearances occur at the height of 656 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:44,400 great battles from World War One to D Day to Korea, Vietnam and beyond. 657 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:50,280 Military investigators are baffled, why do UFO sighting spike so drastically during wartime? 658 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,119 Could it be mistaken aircraft or someone or some thing looking in on us? 659 00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,679 In UFOs in wartime? What they didn't want you to know? Macmaloney 660 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,679 chronicles centuries of these incredible sightings and tries to solve the puzzle of why so 661 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,760 many UFOs are scene mult humanity is at war. Read about the scare ships, 662 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,119 the ghost planes and the ghost rockets, alien giants in the jungles of 663 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:20,280 Vietnam, UFOs controlling our ICBM Basis, dog fights with flying saucers during the 664 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,760 Gulf War, and more. Three hundred pages of unbelievable stories, along with 665 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:30,840 many startling photographs. That's UFOs in Wartime, What they Didn't want You to 666 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,519 Know? By macmloney On sale at your local bookstore or on Amazon dot com. 667 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,880 Welcome back, everyone to Macmoney's most frank style show here on the Distant 668 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,760 Thunder Radio Network. This is Macmonry. What wouldn't show you know? For 669 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,360 you tonight, very quickly, girls, very famous one one is here. 670 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,920 Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the show. Also, girls, Coco 671 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:30,559 is not here, but girls, it's witch Lah. Steve Wood is here, 672 00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:35,280 a national correspondent down there in West Virginia. Read to be here tonight, 673 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,079 Mac. We're are the cats, so I can yell at them. 674 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:45,760 Well, I loking to be sure or sleeping? Four people work or sleep 675 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,639 or eat. Four people on the screens that are looking around for their cats. 676 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,039 That's that's good. When I'm in the studio, Bran cat side here 677 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:58,159 four and a half. Also with oh that voice you're head is out, 678 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,159 Ronaldo, you a full mechanic amercallo everyone and get away. And my cat's 679 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,679 on here, okay. So and also with us is a good friend up 680 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:13,400 there in Sideways and York, still kind of bunded by the Canadian smoke. 681 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,599 Raven is with us Rave, Hello, my friends, thank you for having 682 00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:21,760 me. I don't know where my cat is. That's good so it's probably 683 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,360 lurking. Do you just like Indians now because they've been bugging you with her? 684 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,760 No? I don't know. Move up to Canada. It's too hot 685 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,000 here. I need to go. I don't. I don't like the heap. 686 00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:36,679 I can't tolerate it at all. I need to live in a little 687 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,280 icicle. Wow. And you'll live enough upstate New York. And you have 688 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,400 saying climate change is making it warmer? Is that what you're saying? That 689 00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:52,320 is a really good hot take. Let's put it that way. That is 690 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,920 a hot take. Uh, we have a guest tonight. They introduce everyone, 691 00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,880 great astall Great? How you doing video game design? And producer? 692 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,280 Man on the way up to be back here? Don And uh, you're 693 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:13,119 in Challotte right kind of? Uh a little east. I'm actually closer to 694 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,760 Raleigh, Okay. And when does college football stopped down there? Or is 695 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:22,760 that already stopped? And I already know they're doing uh scrimmages. But last 696 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,679 week of August, I think right around August thirty first, I think funny 697 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:30,239 enough State, NC State, who's nearby opens up against Yukon. Really yeah, 698 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,360 so everything is it just nuts there? Every Saturday? I mean just 699 00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:36,079 in that area. It's gonna be. There's so many colleges down there that 700 00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:40,320 play it is. It is college basketball country. But slowly, especially with 701 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,920 all of the realignment, I think the football fans you're getting a little more 702 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,400 rabid. We don't really know what's going to happen to the ACC in five 703 00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:52,559 ten years because Florida State wants out. UNC is trying to flex their muscles 704 00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:54,079 now, so we'll see. But yeah, it's a bit big college sports 705 00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:59,639 down not to speak sports, but isn't like the Pac ten down to like 706 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,519 t or something like that. Read that the other day they're losing you are 707 00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:07,400 for however many? Yeah, yeah, well it's got to be about money. 708 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,000 But I can't figure it out. You know, you've seen those football 709 00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:15,880 stadiums. It's it's a it's a football team with a college education on the 710 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:21,480 side, you know, and and and no what it is and no nothing 711 00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:25,719 to the NFL. They literally have their minor leagues paid for right. They 712 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,079 don't have to pay for those guys, which is amazing. Anyway, we're 713 00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:35,159 not talking about spots, so just give us a thumbnail version what you do? 714 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,679 Correct? Yeah, of course I know it's changed over time. I'm 715 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,840 over at a company called Insomnia Games. I am an outsourcing project manager with 716 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,440 them. I'm currently working on the Spider Man two game, something out this 717 00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:52,159 October. So right now I kind of manage the day to day with our 718 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:58,280 outsourcers as well as our internal teams to make sure assets and pipelines come in 719 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,079 on time for the game. Huh. So, so last time you were 720 00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:04,960 on you couldn't tell us when the game was coming out. But now you've 721 00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,000 let it slip. It's coming out, correct, because now that the world, 722 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:10,360 now that the world knows, I ken say commercial swing around YouTube? 723 00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:15,280 Really? Yeah, so so we have that released hip. How many years 724 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:20,360 in development was this? Would you say? I can't really reveal when it 725 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,280 started, but it's been multiple years. I've only been on the project a 726 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,679 year. I've only been with the company. Come I'm coming up on my 727 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,880 one year actually mid September. Okay. It's been a long, long, 728 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,599 long production process, so more than a motion picture, because a movie usually 729 00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:38,880 takes about a year and you know a few months, you know. Okay, 730 00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:43,519 So, so is the payoff going to be? Do you know what 731 00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:47,360 I mean? Bigger than a new Spider Man movie coming out? Well, 732 00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,719 we're trying to Uh, we are definitely trying to get in the running for 733 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:58,000 Game of the Year insomniax spider Man. Games before before Peter Parker one, 734 00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:02,440 The Miles Morales one received very well, very popular. This is definitely the 735 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,159 largest game I've ever worked on. There is a lot of hype and popularity 736 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,159 around it. So yeah, obviously, you know, you know, personally 737 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,679 to myself and my many co workers obviously were hoping it is that has that 738 00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:20,079 impact, that success that will obviously help us all out. But yeah, 739 00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:22,880 we know we have some big time competition this year in the games industry, 740 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,800 so we're we're hoping, uh, everyone's expectations are met and more. Yeah 741 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,840 right, huh So so what what is your target audience? What age is 742 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,039 your target audience? So do you know is it it? Does it? 743 00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:37,559 Is it? Is it? All ages? Uh? A bit all ages? 744 00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:42,280 You know the game obviously, uh, there is violence in it, 745 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,679 not like Gore or anything like that, but your kind of typical comic book 746 00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:51,039 kind of like PG PG thirteen violence as well. But because Spider Man is 747 00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:57,840 such a large, just gigantic property and the first games where people really enjoyed 748 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,719 our unique starting Insomnia, unique story on it. You know, they're hope 749 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,679 hoping that we can kind of capture that magic further, especially now, as 750 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,039 you'll see in the trailer, we've introduced Venom, who's a very very popular 751 00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:15,079 character. So folks seeing that and our take on that will be very interesting. 752 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,440 So so I kind of believe Just one last question about this is I 753 00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:22,360 kind of believe that there's going to be close contact between you and Marvel, 754 00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,280 your company and Marvel, right, I mean, everyone has to give thumbs 755 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:30,760 up on it, right, yep. Well, Insomniac is also we're owned 756 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,400 by Sony, and Sony does own that Spider Man property. Now that being 757 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,880 said, that does have a saying. I know it's a Spider Man, 758 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,920 it's it's unique too at the moment, whereas Disney owns kind of the rest 759 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,159 of the Marvel properties. But you know, the two companies work, Uh, 760 00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:50,639 they have a you know, good relationship now with how they want Spider 761 00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:54,840 Man portrayed. So there might be some things we'll need to do, and 762 00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,440 especially if there's any kind of usage, but they've been a great partner and 763 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,880 they've seen the success that Insomnia has done with the first two games. Do 764 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,519 you think Spider Man is bigger than Superman. Popularity was Oh tough. I 765 00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:14,800 think it depends on the medium. I think in games absolutely. Unfortunately, 766 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:20,000 Superman has had awful video games for the Coortstall time in the n sixty four 767 00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:24,119 Days back then, where he had a terrible, terrible game comics, I 768 00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:28,559 guess it depends on who he asks. I know Marvel and DC have very 769 00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:31,960 strong opinions. Yeah, you know, depending on which way you fall. 770 00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:37,599 There was it. Another realm did a nice take where they had the fighting 771 00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:43,960 game in Justice I think Mortal Kombat meets DC comics, but that had Spider 772 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:50,199 Man as an antagonist because he pretty much lost faith in humanity, but he 773 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,880 still had, you know that, So there were kind of those sides, 774 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,320 and he has spoilers. Batman was, of course on the other side. 775 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,119 You know, Supergirl came back and they had a really interesting take on it. 776 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,360 But saying the game space definitely spider Man. Yeah. The others, 777 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,960 well, the movies. I hate to say it. I think I hate 778 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,079 to say it because I love Spider Man, but for any DC fan boys, 779 00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:12,280 yeah, Spider Man's kind of been holding that down in theaters, both 780 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,760 animation, Yeah, yeah, DC. I don't know why. I mean 781 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:22,719 it was, you know, bragging, quarreling about Christopher Nolan filling uh Oppenheim. 782 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,679 But he felt he filled those bad Batman Superman fighting each of the movies, 783 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,440 right, didn't they? I mean, come on this thing, No, 784 00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:34,400 that that was Snyder had at least Justice League. Now, no one 785 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,199 had the was it Batman Begins, the one with the Joker, and the 786 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:43,360 third one? So no one's kind of in his own universe there. But 787 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,679 none of those movies were any good though. See that's what that's what always 788 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,960 bugs me in my mind, because I really Begins was good. We're talking 789 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,320 about Nolan's Batman were good. Ones after that with Ben Affleck as Batman were 790 00:56:54,519 --> 00:57:00,960 well? All right? Which one was mister Freeze? Donold? And I'm 791 00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:04,599 going way way back? Right? Oh man, that goes way back? 792 00:57:04,679 --> 00:57:07,639 Yeah, yeah, that wasn't I don't think it was Tim Burton, but 793 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,920 I know Tim Burton was the I think that eighty eight one, but I 794 00:57:12,039 --> 00:57:14,559 know that one wasn't too great either. But don't you think I mean, 795 00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:17,400 it's funny that that that Spider Man has has lasted as long because he's a 796 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,639 kid, you know what I mean, or if you know what I mean, 797 00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:22,320 like I mean I read him when I was a kid, But of 798 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,800 all those comics, he's the one who kind of survived, you know, 799 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,760 He's the one who people you know, keep you know, falling in love 800 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:36,559 with. Let's you know, especially Hollywood, well well especially too with what 801 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,599 they've done with Miles Morales. The whole appeal is anyone can be behind the 802 00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:44,840 Mask and Spider Verse with all these different versions. Now it's not just Peter 803 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,440 Parker anymore. And you know, they had a Spider Man India who's extremely 804 00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:51,920 popular, and they have Spider Gwen, who's instead this time it's Gwen Stacy 805 00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:55,280 is Spider Woman stuff. There's just a lot and it's not just a slap 806 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,239 this person's name and they're the new Spider Man or Spider Woman. They actually 807 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,599 have unique, fleshed out backstories. Looks everyone kind of has their pick of 808 00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:07,599 like oh, actually, like this universe is Spider Man. Yeah. Yeah, 809 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,360 it's definitely found ways to innovate. That's amazing. So anyway, so 810 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,599 you know, we wanted to talk to you. It's not about AI, 811 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,480 Okay, official intelligence. It's very just quickly you know, every once in 812 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,599 a while, are we a story about AI during the week and it just 813 00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:23,480 seems to me, and I probably saw this view before, it just seems 814 00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:28,320 to me like it's one big fa q, you know, the accumulation of 815 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,840 human knowledge that's just going to be spit back to you when you ask them 816 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:37,199 a certain question. It doesn't think for itself, doesn't Well, you're also 817 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,079 looking at it as just stuff like a chat GPT or mid journey from the 818 00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:45,800 art side, because obviously AI in general, you know, we had computer 819 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,159 languages, we have things yet we've used some game engines and movies and all 820 00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:52,000 that. But the ones that are kind of talking back, like the chat 821 00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:58,000 GPT or any kind of those chatbots, they are you know, developed as 822 00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:02,840 far as we know. They're not self aware yet. Obviously there were some 823 00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:08,519 stories I know last year of someone kind of getting a horrifying response from them. 824 00:59:08,679 --> 00:59:13,840 Right yeah, but that language and it is getting you know, it 825 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,039 is being programmed by someone or a team. So we have to keep in 826 00:59:17,159 --> 00:59:22,119 mind with these technologies, even if they may not become self aware, obviously 827 00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:27,000 there is a team or an individual that has programmed in a certain way. 828 00:59:27,039 --> 00:59:30,760 Because we all have our biases or opinions on something, so okay, you 829 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:36,679 can kind of come up there. But when you ask AI a question, 830 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,599 Okay, you mentioned it was a chatbot or whatever it was. I asked, 831 00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:42,280 I went in there once and get you. They gave me three different 832 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,440 answers. So you asked them a question and the answer comes. I mean, 833 00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:50,320 that isn't a bunch of people sitting there saying send that answer to him. 834 00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:52,920 It's going to be some kind of algorithm, right, that says, 835 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:57,159 Okay, these are the three best answers a question. But it's it's it's 836 00:59:57,199 --> 01:00:00,639 only because you know, I keep saying this, because all that accumulated knowledge 837 01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:04,840 is out there, and and and it's able to kind of pull in stuff 838 01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:07,800 to answer a question. Yep, and yeah, and we've seen that just 839 01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:12,679 you know, think about even just using a search engine with Google, just 840 01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:16,440 able to get those results instantaneously. In this case, it's talking back to 841 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,920 you. I remember, I think last I spoke to you, I quickly 842 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,480 asked it, hey, write me a synopsis for a wingman novel? Right, 843 01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:27,920 yeah, but but it interpreted as a wingman, like a wingman to 844 01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:30,320 a club or a party, like yeah, yeah, the guy who goes 845 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,400 around with his friend. Yeah right, yeah, Okay, that was great, 846 01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:38,000 but make sure one one is in A two that he's having amorous adventures 847 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:44,440 alongside his being a wingman sideman. There you go, okay, a wingman 848 01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:46,079 wing man? How about that? So and have it? Have it on 849 01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:50,119 my desk by tomorrow, and all of a sudden the printer will go off 850 01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:52,880 and have it if I log on probably the next five minutes. Don't say 851 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:59,440 that it's a nightmare. I mean, Alexa is already given us information and 852 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,679 she's and my Alexa woke up already just by mentioning her name. But it 853 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,519 gives your stuff in a in a microsecond. Okay, yeah, that is. 854 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:13,159 That is fascinating that, I mean, Alexa is a fascinating thing when 855 01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:15,119 you think about it. You know it is you just say the name of 856 01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:19,199 a song into it and boom and there's the song. I mean, I 857 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,000 think of how that has to how many channels that has to go through to 858 01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:25,440 come back to you, and it's almost instantaneous. But anyways, so so 859 01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:30,320 so great. So all about indexing. How how data is index I remember 860 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,440 when I worked for EMC in the old days, back in the nineties, 861 01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:38,320 where you have to create these indexes to point to certain data structures and then 862 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:44,559 pull it together. Now it's like, well beyond well, be we'll beyond 863 01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:51,280 that of more about index CODs, so so so great. So what what 864 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,719 is the idea then? What started the idea of that these things would that 865 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:59,039 AI, the great AI would stop thinking you know, for itself, you 866 01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:01,639 know, I mean there has been instances and like you say that first and 867 01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:06,280 last year I got this really kind of weird response, and then someone at 868 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,360 the UN asked our robot you know, would robots have a take over the 869 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:14,639 world in the road would just kind of game the side eye? I think, 870 01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:20,880 come on, So you know, what's this idea that this is because 871 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,719 there's so much knowl is there at some point that's gonna coalesced or something whatever. 872 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,760 I think it depends. I think some you know, we just see 873 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,639 technology advance. I mean, you know, what's where we are with like 874 01:02:32,719 --> 01:02:37,320 kind of zoom and video chatting all over across the world. So I think 875 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,880 sometimes the intentions are, hey, what if we have this technology and we 876 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:45,679 can just have this conversation with artificial intelligence or have it do something more engineer. 877 01:02:46,199 --> 01:02:51,639 I think the issue comes in where some folks maybe use it for exploitation, 878 01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:55,079 and like I said, we all have our biases, but you know, 879 01:02:55,159 --> 01:02:59,519 we see it with somebody our ai. We you know, we don't 880 01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:04,000 know they're pulling these images or these mix of images from. But are they 881 01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:07,840 the artists being compensated? Did they say their art could be used? And 882 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,559 that's obviously caused a lot of issues. Also what they call deep fakes, 883 01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:15,599 where you know the images aren't real, but they just say, you know, 884 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:21,639 put something together where allies or enemies of a country are seen together. 885 01:03:21,719 --> 01:03:24,840 And that can obviously, as as we've seen, it just takes one person 886 01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:30,199 who maybe didn't do all their research, just spreads it to their millions of 887 01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:34,559 followers and it goes like wildfire. Yeah, right before anyone can think twice 888 01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:38,679 you know there's consequences then should But do you think that in five years? 889 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,000 I mean, you see these deep fakes now and you look at them and 890 01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:45,679 you say, well, yeah to the kind of casual observe that could be, 891 01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:50,400 you know. But but because if you look at it closely you can 892 01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:52,840 kind of tell. But in five years you're not gonna be able to tell. 893 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,360 No, I don't think so. And it's honestly gotten better recently. 894 01:03:57,559 --> 01:04:02,559 You look at when I think mid journey unfort unfortunately went putting mid Journey on 895 01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:09,199 the Map, Painting one, and a digital art competition but in twenty twenty 896 01:04:09,239 --> 01:04:13,960 two. But they just kept generating different ideas until they finally went with one 897 01:04:14,039 --> 01:04:17,519 and the winner to their credits like, I just went within your rules and 898 01:04:17,639 --> 01:04:23,039 obviously they didn't make it. They asked the program to make it. Yeah, 899 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,679 whereas his arguments like, well, they have their tools like photoshop or 900 01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:29,639 others to make theirs. I just I just kind of skipped the line, 901 01:04:29,639 --> 01:04:30,960 but there were no rules stating I couldn't do that. Yeah, right, 902 01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:34,559 so a I won them. Well that is a little scary. I can 903 01:04:34,639 --> 01:04:38,920 see that, you know, I could see someone using that to their disadvanta 904 01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:44,159 to I would disadvantage. But then you see folks like try to copycat that. 905 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,320 And then like in my industry, for example, how people think like, 906 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,440 oh, in that case, you can just like, really, we 907 01:04:48,519 --> 01:04:55,679 can just automate and build an entire video game that way. And and while 908 01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,440 yes we'd have some maybe some automation processes that can make it all come together, 909 01:05:00,679 --> 01:05:03,280 where it misses with a lot of that is just that copy written work. 910 01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:09,840 It's easy, especially like in a modern community, they've taken a completed 911 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,360 game, for example, and they've they've been able to modify it, fix 912 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,559 it, maybe put their own spin to do some improvement. Sure, but 913 01:05:16,719 --> 01:05:20,760 that's after kind of years and years of development. There isn't a I think 914 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,039 a lot of where that falls in. It's just people think that there's just 915 01:05:24,159 --> 01:05:27,440 a make video game button and there's just lazy developers, which is just not 916 01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,719 true at all. I got to say that I see it as a big 917 01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:36,079 career move for a lot of lawyers, and it's a few specializes in licensing 918 01:05:36,159 --> 01:05:39,679 and copyrights. Yeah, it's the future, you know, I mean, 919 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:45,679 this is what's going to be. Al Is used to work for a company 920 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,440 that when you would see like these back end when the Red Slash started winning, 921 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:56,199 there would be these huge panoramic views of Fenway Park, right and uh 922 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,360 and it was a very popular company, and you really whatever it is, 923 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,280 right, but why don't you tell us how he used to Well, you 924 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,800 know there were times early AI you know the stuff where you know, the 925 01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:11,800 guy take the picture and the picture didn't come out as perfect as he liked 926 01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:16,599 because someone stood up in front of him, or someone did something and made 927 01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:20,079 a gesture or something, and you know, so once in a lifetime picture 928 01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:26,280 you can't go back and reproduce some of these sports moments. They happened, 929 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,519 then they're gone. So you know, we had to go in and kind 930 01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:32,119 of touch him up a bit to fix some of this stuff. And this 931 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,719 is like and it just goes back, you know. But they take people 932 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,639 out of the photogrount, right, Yeah, take someone away, give it 933 01:06:39,639 --> 01:06:43,159 a little bit bit. But but you used to they would say, cut 934 01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:45,920 out that guy because he has a funny hat. On that guy, because 935 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,519 he's raising a beer and so on, right, things like they were blocking 936 01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:53,760 a view. Yeah, but also blocking him. You actually recreated as if 937 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,719 Ted Williams was on the on the field right with people around themselves. They 938 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,800 did a lot of work on stuff like that is fake right there. It 939 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,639 never happened yet company sold they sold a bunch of them. Wow, but 940 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,920 you know that was That's what it was, you know, And yeah, 941 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,880 that's a long story that. But what I wanted to go on to here 942 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,760 is I saw an article probably within the past week where they were saying that 943 01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:30,440 in India they've started using AI to generate sportscasters and news presenters on TV and 944 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,440 they said there at this point there's still a little choppy. But for the 945 01:07:33,559 --> 01:07:39,039 casual observer, there's someone delivering the news who's not real and in five years 946 01:07:39,159 --> 01:07:41,800 and they said, yeah, this is just the beginning. So like, 947 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,559 if you have a career in broadcasting, is a you know, newscaster or 948 01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:47,960 a whether man or they said, don't count on it for long. But 949 01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:53,079 but see this is what bothers me Thoughways say, how many newscasters are there 950 01:07:53,159 --> 01:07:55,599 in the world. When you think about it, it's you know, on 951 01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,000 TV, is if five thousand, ten thousand, you know, they seemed 952 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,000 to be fewer and fewer over time. I know, but what why do 953 01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:05,400 you have to you know, why do you have to take their jobs? 954 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:10,599 Why don't you take figures? They're expensive? Well that's true, yeah, 955 01:08:10,639 --> 01:08:13,960 that's you know, they're they're the face. And if there's a scandal or 956 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,159 if they do something stupid or they get pregnant, got to go away for 957 01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:21,439 a while, or you know they do uh, you know they if you 958 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:26,560 have the AI person, they don't say the wrong thing, they don't trip 959 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,479 up a word, and they don't get to pay them a lot, right, 960 01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:34,840 but it's a script fact check. Maybe they can be president. They 961 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:40,760 listen, Rember Don KSh President, Don christ that doesn't fall down the stairs. 962 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:45,079 Yeah, that doesn't try to take over the country either. Don Krishner 963 01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:47,760 used to put on The Monkeys. Okay, basically the Monkeys. I'm really 964 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:53,399 dating myself now, but you are dating itself. They were the Beatles, 965 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:58,359 you know, you know by the mox Brothers. Basically they put them on 966 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,399 TV and big show. It was only only for two years, but it's 967 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,640 big because they were also had hits on the radio. So after two years, 968 01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:10,119 the Monkeys, who didn't play their instruments on the record, that's how 969 01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:15,840 everyone found out about the Wrecking Crow, started to demand that they write their 970 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,640 own songs, and they wanted to play their own instruments, and they wanted 971 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,920 royalties and all the stuff, and Don Christians said, you know what, 972 01:09:21,119 --> 01:09:25,760 forget it, and he fired them and he started The Achies. Okay, 973 01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:30,119 so the Achies was a cartoon, but they also had hits on the top 974 01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:32,840 ten and everything. And at the end, sorry an interview when they says, 975 01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:38,560 cartoons don't talk back, Okay, they don't make demands, right, 976 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,359 So if you can, if you can create something in AI which is either 977 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,640 a cartoon or a movie, or a fake person singing or whether or a 978 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,760 fake actress. You know, if you can do it, you're home free. 979 01:09:51,119 --> 01:09:57,920 You know, if you can create a Simpsons character voiceover person and that 980 01:09:58,119 --> 01:10:00,920 out of the job, right, Yep, yep, that getting like how 981 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,560 much per episode? Bazillion dollars per episode? Yeah, I can say so, 982 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:10,039 Greg is AI sha is it? Is it cheap? Is it inexpensive? 983 01:10:10,279 --> 01:10:13,920 You know what I mean? Yeah, I wouldn't say it's uh, 984 01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:17,479 well, inexpensive. Kind of what you're deferring to how they're trying to replace, 985 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,359 you know, humans with their jobs. Where we even just kind of 986 01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:26,479 see it with some of the writer shrink going on and uh not all but 987 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,520 like you know, maybe some companies are trying to say, like, okay, 988 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,920 could we use AI to the fear for a lot of the actors striking, 989 01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:36,439 especially the ones that's famous. I was going to ask for us that 990 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:42,079 they were looking at AI to uh do background characters rather than hire a bunch 991 01:10:42,119 --> 01:10:45,479 of extras. Just get the program and we'll just generate a bunch of generic 992 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,600 looking people. We don't need to pay this person's you stand in the background. 993 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:54,640 We just need to pay our stars or maybe just a couple stars at 994 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,079 that point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, there was that 995 01:10:57,159 --> 01:11:00,039 fear with that where just you know, unfortunately everything is a business, and 996 01:11:01,079 --> 01:11:05,000 yeah, with whether it is kind of something like that that that should you 997 01:11:05,079 --> 01:11:09,000 know, worries some folks, should upset some folks, I feel, because 998 01:11:09,079 --> 01:11:12,239 again, some people get their starts that way, and it's just you know, 999 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,840 unfortunate that. I think there was a good use at first, but 1000 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,359 a lot of it and of course what the news is getting is a lot 1001 01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:23,479 a lot of it's being overshadowed with what's the negativity? How are people exploiting 1002 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,439 it? And those are like you know, the stories we're hearing in the 1003 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,560 things we're seeing as well. It does definitely have a negative connotation lately. 1004 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,800 Okay, it's always AI. He's gonna take over, Yeah, he's gonna 1005 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:39,760 kills it. Never really talks about how AI could be just this wonderful thing, 1006 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,840 you know. I mean, sure we can be, but people are 1007 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,039 afraid of it. People are getting afraid of it, I think. Yeah, 1008 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,800 and that's what I was referring to, Like, you know, we 1009 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,840 have you know, we have AI. We've had chatbots since the Aol instant 1010 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:56,920 messenger days, where it could have at umeric response back. It's just kind 1011 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,720 of getting to this scale where I think we're just highlighting the people trying to 1012 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,439 exploit it a lot more. They're looking for the quick the quick buck. 1013 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:09,600 Like I said, someone thinking they can just AI generate an entire video game 1014 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,199 and that's how they'll make millions billions of dollars, or how they can just 1015 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,079 make an entire animated movie or a book, write a book. But we'll 1016 01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:18,960 we'll well, and a book was written. But then, you know, 1017 01:12:20,359 --> 01:12:25,319 I'd love it that some of the drawings just looked very rude, Yeah, 1018 01:12:25,399 --> 01:12:30,840 strange, So you know it could get to that point, but you know, 1019 01:12:30,039 --> 01:12:32,640 there's a there's that reason to like, you know, you're you know, 1020 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,000 you're an author yourself, but not not everyone can be a writer. 1021 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:43,319 I would love the AI AI should be focused in on defluent projects like saving 1022 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,520 human kinds. But how can you do that? Maybe regenerating Charlie Watts, 1023 01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:53,319 that'd be fun. So before we have to take a break though, just 1024 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:58,359 you know, the story has been around that the Beatles are going to raven. 1025 01:12:58,359 --> 01:13:01,680 The Beatles are pop girl from the sixties and seventies. They're going to 1026 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:08,199 release one last song and it's like something they found in John Lennon's general top 1027 01:13:08,319 --> 01:13:14,840 draw and they have an AI recreate his voice, are Polish's voice, let's 1028 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,520 say. And I think it's a mistake. I think it's a big mistake 1029 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:24,520 because you can't recreate a Beatle's record, you know what I mean? You 1030 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,920 just you just you can make something sound like it. And that's what this 1031 01:13:28,079 --> 01:13:30,640 is going to be. And it's just gonna be the first of many, 1032 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,640 believe me, and not the first many Beatles stuff, but it's gonna be 1033 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,359 the first elvis everyone. It's gonna be in a guig. What do you 1034 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:41,640 think, Well, like you said, you know, it can't. Yes, 1035 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,279 it can replicate the song, but the moments people talk about it's like, 1036 01:13:45,359 --> 01:13:46,840 well we were there, you know, that moment of being there live 1037 01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:53,239 and seeing them perform on location and a venue. Sure someone could go in 1038 01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:56,399 and recreate it, but it's not the same. You know, it's still 1039 01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,560 just a copy just because you can't really you can't. You can't mimic that 1040 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:04,079 emotion with the crowd with you and everyone kind of like seeing that unique moment. 1041 01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:06,119 It can be you know, it can be copied. You can watch 1042 01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:10,760 it back on video, but yeah, I agree. It's it's unfortunate that 1043 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:15,600 that's what they would decide to do since that's not capturing uh what he was? 1044 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,319 Yeah? Right, yeah for sure. Well listen, we're gonna take 1045 01:14:19,319 --> 01:14:21,880 a break, thank you, Greg, We're going to clap you off. 1046 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,159 Hey, how about how about AI in sports betting? Not that we would 1047 01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:32,239 know anything about that, but oh, I'm sure there's already bots in place 1048 01:14:32,319 --> 01:14:36,560 for that, whether it's Draft Kings, van duel or uh not so legally 1049 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,720 after all, it's not it's not legal here in North Carolina, but I 1050 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,800 am I am positive there it's already some bots in that that firing off really 1051 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,319 yeah yeah, even like you know, setting the lines doesn't Isn't that how 1052 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,960 kind of Vegas just sees. It's not like you know, one person they 1053 01:14:54,039 --> 01:14:57,760 take it from, just kind of millions of possibilities, That's how they said 1054 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,840 it. Isn't it so eerie? How they're always so probably over and unders 1055 01:15:01,359 --> 01:15:04,439 right, It's it's like bookies have time machines. How do they how do 1056 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,279 they do it? How do they do it? But they do it every 1057 01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,439 time? It seems read. So whatever, Greg, thanks for joining us, 1058 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:15,760 We really appreciate it. Shout out to Sarah and Ali. Happy birthday, 1059 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,439 Ali, Congratulations three years old. Appreciate it, Thank you very much. 1060 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,159 Okay, all right, we'll talk to you soon. Okay, yeah, 1061 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,199 and uh so, well, why don't we take a break right now? 1062 01:15:28,319 --> 01:15:30,079 This is mccloney by, But why don't we take a break right now? 1063 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,479 Listening to mcloney's milk dr show here on the Distant Thunder Radio in that 1064 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:38,840 way, please stay tune. We've all heard of Area fifty one, the 1065 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,960 US government's top secret base in the Nevada Desert. But have you ever heard 1066 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,279 of Area fifty two or fifty three or fifty four fifty four? How about 1067 01:15:47,359 --> 01:15:53,680 Kanapark Test Range or the Navy's secret base inside of the Bermuda Triangle. Find 1068 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:58,119 out about them and more in mcmloney's Beyond Area of fifty one Mysteries of the 1069 01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:03,159 World's Most Forbidden Places. 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That's macmloney's Beyond Area fifty one, Mysteries of the World's 1079 01:16:41,279 --> 01:17:14,199 Most Forbidden Places, now on sale at Amazon. Welcome back everyone to Apple 1080 01:17:14,279 --> 01:17:16,159 in these Middle Tary So I'll show here on the Distant Thunder Radio. Noway, 1081 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,800 this is Mac and roning well with a show. From what I can 1082 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:25,720 remember, it's a great show so far, and it's because it's been awesome. 1083 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,119 One of the reasons is he's the girls going across the puddle MS one 1084 01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:33,920 one, Hello girls, Hell everybody, welcome back to the show. It's 1085 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,560 been a fun one so far. I'm glad to be here. Let me 1086 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,079 ask you this, Yeah, how many times a day do you think about 1087 01:17:41,119 --> 01:17:45,479 Lily James? At least once a day do you really, you know not, 1088 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,119 maybe not more often than that than this once a day. Yeah, 1089 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:53,319 how many times do you do you probably think about Nancy Wilson the other times, 1090 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:58,079 the other part of the day, the other twenty three? How many 1091 01:17:58,119 --> 01:18:04,600 times do you think about Princy Andrew who? Yeh, the perfect ends anyway, 1092 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:10,319 No, couco. Tonight someone sent me a thing to the seven. 1093 01:18:10,359 --> 01:18:15,600 He said that he might be training Chinese pilots. Did you? Did you 1094 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:20,319 say that? One? Someone said that anyway, it could be more kind 1095 01:18:20,359 --> 01:18:25,000 to believe you're training right, Well, I no, no, you never 1096 01:18:25,079 --> 01:18:30,479 know what he's in. But National Correspondent switchblades, deeva waters heyes, switchy 1097 01:18:30,319 --> 01:18:35,359 and it is great to be here tonight. Would you have a train Chinese 1098 01:18:35,399 --> 01:18:42,439 pilots? Ye? Well, uh, if these were Chinese communists and our 1099 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,039 enemies, they would want me to train them. Let's put it that way. 1100 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,880 Okay, all right, that's a little obtuse, but sounds good. 1101 01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:55,840 That's that Captain Country talking. So listen. So is it still Captain c 1102 01:18:56,079 --> 01:19:01,079 ap apostrophe? N Now all right, alas googling it, I will look 1103 01:19:01,159 --> 01:19:05,000 for you, okay, all right, So anyway, while we're looking that 1104 01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:10,319 up, favorite good Witch up there and sideways and young Raven is with us. 1105 01:19:10,399 --> 01:19:13,920 Raven, Hi, my friends, thank you for having me. But 1106 01:19:14,039 --> 01:19:16,720 the glass is really the glasses. You know, we all get classes on 1107 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,880 tonight, but you look the battles I need them to see. So I 1108 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,319 mean, I guess it doesn't matter how I love. Have you ever got 1109 01:19:24,399 --> 01:19:30,760 THEMB Have we get contact lenses a different color than you're realize? No, 1110 01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:33,520 I don't like that. I saw someone wants a woman. She had the 1111 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:38,560 brightest greenest eyes in the world, and I was like, there's no way 1112 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,039 in the world. Yeah, it's unnatural looking. Yeah, it just doesn't 1113 01:19:42,039 --> 01:19:48,159 look It just looks weird anyway. Also with us is and Will not that 1114 01:19:48,279 --> 01:19:54,239 we're an aldull go full mechanic. Hi, Mac and yes it is cap 1115 01:19:54,359 --> 01:19:59,039 and cap with an apostrophe and really crunch. That's number one. Number two. 1116 01:20:00,199 --> 01:20:04,760 I do wear contacts occasionally because I'm lazy. But I went walked into 1117 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:13,239 a police station one time to report the gates to the Amtrak weren't working because 1118 01:20:13,319 --> 01:20:15,720 some somebody was got clipped by a train. I walk into the I walk 1119 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,880 into the police station and there's a lady sitting behind the desk and go hi, 1120 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,800 listen, I want to tell you, just let you guys know that 1121 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:26,039 the tracks on Boshton Road, things just going up and down, going crazy, 1122 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,720 no train. And she stopped and looked at me and goes, are 1123 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,279 you wearing contact lensers anyway? Yeah? Why? Because I've never seen eyes 1124 01:20:34,319 --> 01:20:39,359 that color before? Right? So she ended up going calling other people come 1125 01:20:39,359 --> 01:20:42,920 out and look, and I like, I didn't realize it was the color 1126 01:20:43,119 --> 01:20:46,199 that she was. I thought she thought I was trashed. Is this has 1127 01:20:46,279 --> 01:20:49,279 just led to coming on to you? No? No, no, no, 1128 01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,039 no, no, you have to wait to hear my story. Okay, 1129 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,920 Ravens, catch Friday is here. Here we go. Okay, look 1130 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:02,239 at that. I don't want to start a trend. So Al had to 1131 01:21:02,319 --> 01:21:11,680 drop his car off at a mechanics once this is how and I have to 1132 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,960 drive him over and we drive over to this place. It's out in the 1133 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:19,680 middle of nowhere and there's like a motorcycle gang well running the flight. It 1134 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:25,319 was I had dropped off a motorcycle wheel to have a tire balance. Okay, 1135 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,920 so Mac brought me to go get it. I drop him off, 1136 01:21:28,079 --> 01:21:30,560 and you know, I want this to go quick. I got stuff to 1137 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:35,319 do. It, and I'm sitting out there for like two minutes, five 1138 01:21:35,399 --> 01:21:39,680 minutes, ten minutes, fifteen minutes, going what could they be talking about 1139 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,840 it? It's a tire fix it? Okay? He comes out and he 1140 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,760 gets in the kind of goes. Those guys wouldn't stop talking to me. 1141 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,880 One of them said, I had the nicest eyes in the world, honest 1142 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:54,279 to God, Honest to God. We were sitting there and it's a I 1143 01:21:54,359 --> 01:21:57,600 hate to say it, it's a Harley shop, and I only like, 1144 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,119 so, first of all, I'm in alien territory here. So I go 1145 01:22:01,239 --> 01:22:04,199 in and I'm asking, you know, for the tire, and one of 1146 01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:08,960 the weirdos, one of the big fat slobs sitting there, looks at me 1147 01:22:09,039 --> 01:22:13,439 and goes, you have beautiful eyes, and you know, like, how 1148 01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,079 do you respond to that from this big Harley biker? And I started hearing 1149 01:22:16,119 --> 01:22:23,359 the deliverance banjo's in the background and Max right there, like in the car, 1150 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,479 right upside the door. And as soon as he hears it, I 1151 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,359 see the window going up on the passage side of the car and I get 1152 01:22:29,399 --> 01:22:34,319 the door's lock, and I'm like, wow, he no, but then 1153 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,560 yeah, So then he finally gets in the car. He's all I'm on 1154 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,399 twisted Google eyes from this and then like an Alia says, hey, you're 1155 01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,159 driving me back. I'm packing around the walk there though, you and your 1156 01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:50,119 buddy, So you didn't say you have beautiful eyes? No, no, 1157 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:55,640 we'd still be there. I'm telling you. Of all the things the guy 1158 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:59,920 could have said to me, like you drive junk or a rice burner, 1159 01:23:00,119 --> 01:23:03,680 anything of that sort, I would have been totally expecting. But when this 1160 01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:08,720 guy looked at me and said that, he was like this big overweight Harley 1161 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,840 guy drinking a beer a bud look at me, and I was like, 1162 01:23:14,319 --> 01:23:15,960 oh my god, what do I say to that? What do you I 1163 01:23:16,039 --> 01:23:18,239 mean, I'm trying to ignore it and talk to the owner of the shop, 1164 01:23:18,399 --> 01:23:23,039 thank you, And and I'm looking out there because I'm like, if 1165 01:23:23,359 --> 01:23:27,239 I bet I can beat the guy to the car, because I'm he's too 1166 01:23:27,359 --> 01:23:30,520 fat to run, not if Mac is already taken. I see the window 1167 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,760 going up, and I was like, keep up with me. I'm in 1168 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:40,600 troubling. Wow. Wow, yeah, yeah, I forgot about that was 1169 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,319 funny anyway. Uh wow, if that stays in, it'll be a miracle. 1170 01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:55,319 Switchy Switchy has a repun I introduced everyone, right, I think the 1171 01:23:55,439 --> 01:24:00,560 Harley guys. Listen, Captain Friends, he called his friend general and they 1172 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:05,600 get that changed. They should tell it Captain Crunch and he was in the 1173 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:10,600 Navy, not the coach. Good. Okay, we're gonna remember that. 1174 01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,119 So switch, you have a report for us tonight? Yes, I do. 1175 01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:17,760 Okay, let's put in your on the Grinning Man. Oh, let's 1176 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,600 put it. Let's put the bumper in h what's that? Let's put the 1177 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:27,159 bumper in here. Okay, I think I think I can hear it off 1178 01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:36,319 in the distance. And now it's time for another story from the Lost Animals 1179 01:24:36,399 --> 01:24:45,239 of the Paranormal. It's time for Steve Ward's report from the Fringe. What 1180 01:24:45,319 --> 01:24:47,760 do they have for us? Now? The Grinning Man? The source of 1181 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:53,560 this is a chapter and one of John Keel's earlier books, and this book 1182 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,319 is under two titles. A bit. I want to talk about this book 1183 01:24:56,319 --> 01:24:59,920 just a little bit. If people are interested in getting into John Key, 1184 01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:03,000 this is one of the books I recommend to plunge into first. The original 1185 01:25:03,079 --> 01:25:09,720 title was Strange Creatures from Time and Space had a magnificent Frank for Zetta painting 1186 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:14,680 on the cover. It has been reprinted since then in more recent years, 1187 01:25:15,079 --> 01:25:18,000 and it's called The Complete Guide to Mysterious Beings and more of a trade paper 1188 01:25:18,079 --> 01:25:24,199 size. The cover isn't anywhere near as cool as the original. And the 1189 01:25:24,279 --> 01:25:28,359 thing is this is this is where John Keel starts talking about window areas and 1190 01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,319 trying to come to grips with why these sort of creatures out of the Phantom 1191 01:25:31,359 --> 01:25:38,279 Menagerie just sort of show up and then melt away. And also it covers 1192 01:25:38,359 --> 01:25:43,640 all kinds of you know, wing creatures, different types of bigfoot creatures. 1193 01:25:44,199 --> 01:25:47,960 He had a chapter an earlier chapter on the Mothman, just a whole variety. 1194 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,359 So it's a really good place to kind of get your feet wet. 1195 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:55,640 If you jump right into the Mothman prophecies, that's like crazy town. I 1196 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,439 mean, that's when he was in the midst of all this stuff. It's 1197 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,039 kind of issue into that. Yep. That's the first book I read was 1198 01:26:01,079 --> 01:26:03,479 The Mothman Prophety. So it was like bum oh, here we go. 1199 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,560 You got you gotta read that one. But you know, this will help 1200 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:11,359 you get into but also you may not want to start with Operation Trojan Horse. 1201 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,479 That's almost like a textbook partly that really gets into the nuts and bolts 1202 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,800 of how these things work and come together. Okay, the grinning man, 1203 01:26:19,119 --> 01:26:23,960 and this is one of these things where you know, possible patterns show up. 1204 01:26:24,319 --> 01:26:29,119 It's October nineteen sixty six. A bright light the size of an automobile. 1205 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,840 It nearly clips the five hundred and fifty ft tall TV tower just outside 1206 01:26:33,159 --> 01:26:39,600 Pompton Lakes, New Jersey. This was the site of the DuPont Explosives factory. 1207 01:26:40,279 --> 01:26:44,960 A police officer and his wife they saw the object move away and vanish 1208 01:26:45,039 --> 01:26:47,319 over the nearby hills. On the other side of the hills, there were 1209 01:26:47,359 --> 01:26:54,000 two other patrolmen, Thompson and Western. They saw the same light at about 1210 01:26:54,399 --> 01:27:00,640 ninety five. The light was so bright that it's temporarily blinded Thompson and he 1211 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,720 really didn't get his vision back for about twenty minutes. Now it's impossible to 1212 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:09,920 say whether this particular incident is connected to this next one, but it occurred 1213 01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:14,880 about the same time period, about forty miles away north of one A. 1214 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,439 Queue and Elizabeth, New Jersey, on the same night, October eleventh, 1215 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:26,119 at about the same time the UFO encounter. Now, Elizabeth, New Jersey 1216 01:27:26,279 --> 01:27:30,800 also had a wave of UFO sightings in the past week. Two young boys, 1217 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:41,119 James Chitas and Martin Munmo mon now mobile, Okay, there you go, 1218 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,479 we'll just call him James and Martin. How's that. They were on 1219 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,880 their way home on Fourth Street when their path took them to the edge of 1220 01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:53,840 the New Jersey Turnpike. Now, this is a spot where, I mean, 1221 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,079 there's a big fence there. You can't really get up to the turnpike. 1222 01:27:58,199 --> 01:28:02,319 It's just it's elevated at this point and with a very steep incline. 1223 01:28:03,039 --> 01:28:08,479 And so from the busiest thoroughfare down to Fourth Street, it was that it 1224 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,159 was very hard to get down there, and you can't. It's very hard 1225 01:28:11,159 --> 01:28:18,199 to get through this high wire fence. So they one of them, one 1226 01:28:18,199 --> 01:28:23,760 of the boys, said they saw the strangest man they'd ever ever seen in 1227 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,119 their life. And it was under the bright lights, bright street lights. 1228 01:28:27,159 --> 01:28:31,800 Just wasn't not in the shadows. And he James saw him first, and 1229 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,319 he said he was behind the tall fence. They couldn't figure out how he 1230 01:28:35,319 --> 01:28:39,239 would have gotten there he was. He said he was the biggest man he 1231 01:28:39,319 --> 01:28:45,239 had ever seen. And so he nudged his buddy. His buddy turned around 1232 01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,600 and he said, he just looked at us, and then he said he 1233 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:54,840 grinned a big old grin. Now, this guy is over six feet tall. 1234 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:59,880 And in a few days later, John Keel and James Moseley of Saucerno 1235 01:29:00,319 --> 01:29:02,560 and Chuck McCann, who had his own TV show in the New York area, 1236 01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,640 they arrived to question these boys and they separated them, spent some time 1237 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:14,600 talking to them, and they got more details of the incident. And McCain 1238 01:29:15,399 --> 01:29:17,199 mcmccann rather, it was about six foot two, and the boy said, 1239 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,720 this thing was taller than him and much broader, and he was wearing some 1240 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:27,960 kind of green garment that shimmered and reflected the street lights. He wore a 1241 01:29:28,039 --> 01:29:31,640 wide black belt around his waist. He had a very dark complexion, little 1242 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:36,039 round eyes, kind of beady eyes, they said, and they were kind 1243 01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:40,720 of set far apart. Now, they didn't really notice any other details like 1244 01:29:41,359 --> 01:29:44,800 ears or nose. They didn't really see his hands or his feet. He 1245 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,640 was standing in kind of a tall grass on the other side of the fence. 1246 01:29:47,239 --> 01:29:50,520 Now, there were incidents of violence in that area, so they didn't 1247 01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,960 linger. They just got the hell out of there as quickly as they could, 1248 01:29:55,000 --> 01:30:00,399 away from the creepy grinning man. So Keel and the other guy, 1249 01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,199 and Mosely and so forth, wondering, well, how the heck to this 1250 01:30:03,319 --> 01:30:08,000 guy easily get behind this fence, and if he was a truck driver that 1251 01:30:08,079 --> 01:30:11,640 broke down, how did he even get down this steep embankment to this area 1252 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:16,720 just didn't really make sense. And the boy said that this entity is whatever 1253 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:24,000 it was seemed to be staring at a particular house, and that that seemed 1254 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:28,199 to be what it had fixated on. Now, the grinning man theme continues 1255 01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:32,319 at other encounters, and there are some similarities in some deviations. So of 1256 01:30:32,399 --> 01:30:38,840 course John Keel mentions injury cold. Now we've heard, We've talked about injured 1257 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:43,800 cold many times. This character allegedly showed up about November second. This is 1258 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,319 before. This is November sixty six. This is just a couple of weeks 1259 01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:53,319 before the first wave of mothman sightings took place in Point Pleasant, West Virginia 1260 01:30:53,560 --> 01:31:00,399 and the Ohio Valley. And this was Woodrow Dearrenberger was appliant salesman and he 1261 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:04,520 was driving south on Route seventy seven claimed he saw this elongated spaceship sort of 1262 01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:11,199 shaped like an old fashioned kerosene chimney lamp and it kind of nunged him over 1263 01:31:12,359 --> 01:31:17,560 it landed by his truck. This guy stepped out, and he had this 1264 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:25,920 dark complexion, wearing some kind of a shimmering like garment. Now he looked 1265 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,680 a little more like some of the oh, I don't know, some of 1266 01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,319 the men in Black, the out of Men and Black Lord. He had 1267 01:31:31,359 --> 01:31:35,439 a dark complexion and so forth. He didn't really have the beady eyes of 1268 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:40,600 the white set eyes of this other character. But he had this wide grin 1269 01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:45,720 on his face. And he carried on this pointless conversation with Rodo Darrenberger, 1270 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,239 talking about how he came from a country much less powerful than us, and 1271 01:31:49,399 --> 01:31:54,119 asked what the lights were in the distance, which of course was Parkersburg. 1272 01:31:54,600 --> 01:32:02,199 So in so many of these encounters we have the the mind denumberingly boring conversation 1273 01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:09,960 that really doesn't advance anything. There were a couple other incidents, of course, 1274 01:32:10,199 --> 01:32:14,399 darren Burger claimed he had more contacts with mister Cold. But there was 1275 01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:18,239 something that happened just before this. Two men were traveling down the same highway 1276 01:32:18,319 --> 01:32:24,359 seventy seven. They reported a very similar incident. This is before Darren Burger 1277 01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:34,119 went public and was interviewed by the police on television and he h actually don't 1278 01:32:34,119 --> 01:32:36,880 think he was interviewed. He was interviewed by the police, but then he 1279 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:43,520 was interviewed separately on television and it made headlines in the area. But these 1280 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,840 other two guys, they didn't claim that this gentleman called himself injury cold. 1281 01:32:47,119 --> 01:32:49,800 It was the same kind of thing. They had, kind of a pointless 1282 01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:58,319 conversation. This guy had a grin on his face and the conversation ended and 1283 01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:02,800 they took off. At first they were going to come forward and u and 1284 01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,399 then then and again. This is before Darrenburger came out, and they said 1285 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:10,640 that, okay, we're you know, I decided not to not to do 1286 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,680 it. We just don't want to come forward with this. It was just 1287 01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,000 two weird. He actually went to Mary Higher, John Keel's friend and colleague, 1288 01:33:17,039 --> 01:33:23,720 first and he said, you know that scientist fella said that we should 1289 01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,960 just forget about it. And John Keele said, signed as fellow. What 1290 01:33:27,399 --> 01:33:29,760 scientist fellow? And he said, well, you know, he seemed to 1291 01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,039 know what he was talking about. And he said, well, how did 1292 01:33:31,079 --> 01:33:33,880 he find out about your sighting? And he said, damned if I know, 1293 01:33:34,079 --> 01:33:38,359 because the only people he had told were Mary Higher and John Keel. 1294 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,600 And then a few months later there was another woman across the river in Galipolis, 1295 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,680 on a farm. She was coming she was a nurse, she was 1296 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,279 coming out of her where she worked in the parking light. Late one night, 1297 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:53,640 she sees another one of these crafts that come down and two men step 1298 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:58,239 out, very similar to Indrid and the other one, and she's she's frozen 1299 01:33:58,319 --> 01:34:01,399 in place, she can't move, and they talk about another I'd have another 1300 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:05,399 conversation with this poor lady, and it doesn't really make a whole lot of 1301 01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:10,000 sense. I mean, if we're dealing with entities from other worlds, boy, 1302 01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:14,000 these guys are duller than dumber, and what is the what did they 1303 01:34:14,319 --> 01:34:17,800 what's the what's the reason that they're so kind of dumb? We don't know, 1304 01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,359 I mean, we don't know what we're really dealing with here. Keel 1305 01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:25,159 thought that some of these might be not not hallucinations, but illusory. It 1306 01:34:25,239 --> 01:34:29,720 may not be real physical incidents. However, the next day, this poor 1307 01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,119 lady's walking in downtown gallipolists and she sees these two guys in street clothes and 1308 01:34:33,239 --> 01:34:35,720 one of them nods to her like, oh yeah, remember when we were 1309 01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,560 talking to you the other night. This poor lady freaked out. She was 1310 01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:43,920 also having bizarre st She was having cattle mutilations on her farm. They were 1311 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:47,760 seeing these big box car like craft flying over her farm. Typical haunting phenomena. 1312 01:34:48,079 --> 01:34:53,479 It's very bizarre and then it just goes on. I mean, during 1313 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:58,399 the Lily family on Camp Connley Road. Camp Connley was kind of the southern 1314 01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,720 border of the infamous T and T where the Mautheim was seen initially and many 1315 01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:06,800 times. And they said the young lady Linda was the young girl. One 1316 01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:12,640 of Keel's standard questions was, have you ever had a dream that somebody was 1317 01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,680 in the house with you and they looked at it looked at her daughter. 1318 01:35:15,079 --> 01:35:18,760 She did, she had a dream where she saw this apparition. She should 1319 01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:24,000 be sure it wasn't a dream of this man in a dark suit with a 1320 01:35:24,079 --> 01:35:29,439 wide grin on his face, in the kind of an apparition that appeared and 1321 01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,640 then disappeared. And in this particular case, this man also seemed to be 1322 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:38,880 wearing a checkered shirt. This is another bizarre pattern that shows up in so 1323 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,880 many of these cases. The man with a checker shirt, warning man one 1324 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,359 mom has a check shirt. He seemed to have some similar themes behind him. 1325 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:50,079 And again, forgive me for bringing up Keel again, but if he 1326 01:35:50,279 --> 01:35:57,239 was onto something about some of these things being manifestations, trans moderifications of energy 1327 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:01,600 or whatever, perhaps the same so is manifesting these things and they just come 1328 01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:06,159 out a little differently sometimes, but some of the same archetypes, the underlying 1329 01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:10,880 archetypes are still there. The grinning man, the man with the checkered shirts. 1330 01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,079 So good. No, I was just gonna say, like, to 1331 01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:17,520 me, what this My first thought was that there was some TV shows not 1332 01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:23,039 on anymore. Wasn't really that good. But it's about an alien that lands 1333 01:36:23,119 --> 01:36:27,920 here and he has to kind of adapt to uh, you know, to 1334 01:36:28,159 --> 01:36:30,399 to being a human, let's say, and he's a little bit robotic, 1335 01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,880 and he doesn't quite know what to say. And that's what kind of is 1336 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,920 like, you know, you hear about these things people having meaningless conversations. 1337 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,560 It's kind of like, well, this is what I've been trained to say, 1338 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:42,960 you know, I mean, they don't do you know what I mean? 1339 01:36:43,119 --> 01:36:45,880 Like if you go to a foreign country, he would say that they 1340 01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,520 a lot of times they would use expressions that were way out of date, 1341 01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:58,079 wearing clothing that didn't match up. And sometimes they would have cars that black 1342 01:36:58,159 --> 01:37:01,520 Cadillacts or whatever that looked like old cars, but inside they were perfectly new 1343 01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,680 and shiny and smelt like a like a new car. What what what is 1344 01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:10,680 that? What could that possibly be? You know, I don't know, 1345 01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:15,520 And it does make me wonder if some of these things are maybe not completely 1346 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:20,640 physical experiences but something. I mean, you can go back to uh An 1347 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:26,479 Jeffreys in the sixteen hundreds, who had these incredible encounters with the little people, 1348 01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:30,079 with the elementals with and had all these detailed stories, but she never 1349 01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:31,680 left her room, she never left her house. And then there was the 1350 01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:36,560 woman Helene in the what was the book the From India to the Planet Mars. 1351 01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:43,279 There was a say, a psychiatrist at had this woman put or under 1352 01:37:43,359 --> 01:37:47,880 hypnosis where she talked about this past life on Mars, and uh, you 1353 01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:53,920 know, she had all these detailed experiences, but I don't think she was 1354 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,199 ever actually on the planet Mars. How do we but how do we know 1355 01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:01,439 that these people just as the kids say, not, well, the patterns 1356 01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,159 a show up, uh, you know, the the checker shirt, the 1357 01:38:05,279 --> 01:38:11,399 grinny man, the same type of bedroom apparitions, the the way these in 1358 01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:16,159 quotes men in black look like. Sometimes even even the poor old Joe Symington, 1359 01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:20,199 you know, when he got those pancakes from outer space okay, yeah, 1360 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,279 in return for some water, he said, yeah, they look like 1361 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:30,319 kind of like swarthy its aliens. Wow, whoa yeah? Else of Silians. 1362 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:34,960 Even it was maybe maybe there's a secret space program and you know, 1363 01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:40,640 the treat or something. Yeah, you know that's funny because it makes you 1364 01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:45,560 think for a second, Like, you know, we say this a lot 1365 01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:47,479 on the show. It's like it's kind of like the universe next door isn't 1366 01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,000 quite you know what I mean, It's not just quite the same. The 1367 01:38:51,119 --> 01:38:56,239 fact is is that if someone sees a grinny man here and someone sees him, 1368 01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,520 you know, one hundred miles away, and they don't have no contact 1369 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,520 with each other, you've got something going there, you know. And that's 1370 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,199 the true men and black. So people will see men in black and they 1371 01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:09,239 always describe in a certain way. And these people don't necessarily have ever heard 1372 01:39:09,279 --> 01:39:12,720 of men in black before. So something is going on. People whatever people 1373 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,800 seeing, they seeing the same things that's the weird thing about it, right, 1374 01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:20,159 It does seem to be something beyond mirror, nuts and bolts and flesh 1375 01:39:20,199 --> 01:39:26,039 and blood. There's a real high strangious aspect that suggests we're dealing with we 1376 01:39:26,399 --> 01:39:30,920 may not be dealing with aliens from Elpha Centuria. Yeah right, yeah, 1377 01:39:30,159 --> 01:39:34,159 very strange. So what are we looking at looking at another dimension situation? 1378 01:39:34,279 --> 01:39:39,520 I mean, we seem to throw that out pretty loosely perhaps, But at 1379 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,960 Keel he used the term ultra terrestrial, which he borrowed from his friend and 1380 01:39:44,039 --> 01:39:47,359 colleague Ivan Sanderson, just as kind of a literary device. But he also 1381 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:54,520 used ultra terrestrial very often interchangeably with elemental, and I think that might be 1382 01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:58,560 apropos You know, when I think about some of these bizarre experiences, how 1383 01:39:59,119 --> 01:40:03,319 different are they from encounters with the little people, the elementals, when you 1384 01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,840 had missing time back one hundred or two hundred years ago, when you had 1385 01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:12,800 encounters with the Leprechns or the Pixies or whatever, And uh, you know, 1386 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:17,239 if there's so many other parallels there, so I think maybe we go 1387 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:25,279 back to John Keel's admonition that these are simply natural conditions of the planet just 1388 01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:29,680 and we just yeah, I kind of understand. This is just you know, 1389 01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,439 what happens. It happens every once in a while, you know, 1390 01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:35,640 what happens to some people, not everybody. It's just you know, it's 1391 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,960 like a hover game, it's like the weather. This is just one of 1392 01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:42,560 the things that happened here. And sometimes it really, I mean, it 1393 01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:46,920 really focuses on people. A friend of his got so you know, obsessed 1394 01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:49,960 and nuts with this. He was. He had a gun with him all 1395 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:54,279 the time, hiding his apartment, waiting for the men in black to come 1396 01:40:54,279 --> 01:40:59,000 and get him. Well, and then he started to see alligators coming out 1397 01:40:59,039 --> 01:41:03,159 of his false with antenna and with it they were there. Turned on the 1398 01:41:03,199 --> 01:41:06,920 water in the bathtub and there's an alligator that pours out with antenna. Lay 1399 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:11,439 off the coach. He even took a shot at somebody, but he thought 1400 01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:14,640 was in a black Cadillac and thought was a man in black in the dark 1401 01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,920 suit at the door, and it was a friend of his. He didn't 1402 01:41:18,039 --> 01:41:23,439 kill him, okay, but but he had some things he had to That 1403 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:28,880 woman on the airplane, The woman on the airplane has now rebranded herself as 1404 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,000 the crazy Woman on the Airplane, and she has her thing. Now she 1405 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:35,279 you know, she's she's branded. She's going to be interviewed. She's gonna 1406 01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:41,279 talk about how she saw someone who's a reptile at the at the back of 1407 01:41:41,319 --> 01:41:45,159 the plane. She's turned it into she's turned lemonade, you know, lemons 1408 01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:49,159 into lemonade. They were looking for I guess they found her or she came 1409 01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:53,600 forward, some agent or something fun her. She's saying, you know, 1410 01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:57,640 that thing was in the back of the plane and its eyes blinked sideways, 1411 01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,439 not up and down. Yep. And she said, that's not human. 1412 01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,239 And I'm getting off this plane right now, and you people can stay here 1413 01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:09,640 and die with it. Imagine this, I'm getting off now. Forty feet 1414 01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:16,600 above. Things were near that airplane, by the way, I mean they 1415 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,399 did, you know they did? Yeah, yeah, you know. I 1416 01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:23,439 mean, but I guess the big delay was getting her luggage off because they're 1417 01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,920 gonna go sifting through everything in the bottom of the plane because they will not 1418 01:42:27,079 --> 01:42:30,359 let the luggage fly without They were backing away from the tournament. Oh okay, 1419 01:42:30,359 --> 01:42:33,600 all right, she was. She did it right right on the ground, 1420 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,199 okay. And then they said, okay, you're you're gone, you're 1421 01:42:36,239 --> 01:42:40,279 out. Get an air Marshall get her odd, yeah, do that. 1422 01:42:40,359 --> 01:42:42,560 I hate flying. I'd do anything to get off the plane. That's what 1423 01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,760 she was doing. If you start screaming about her reptile on the back of 1424 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,199 the plane, Hey, look wear for her. I hope someone's filming it 1425 01:42:48,359 --> 01:42:51,720 like that because it would be preceless, Like, how can I get banned 1426 01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:55,560 for life? Well, she just did it, so I'm going to do 1427 01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,760 that next time. Oh I can't fly. Sorry, No, it's more 1428 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:01,960 like how many likes can I get on Facebook or Instagram? Come on and 1429 01:43:02,039 --> 01:43:06,359 listen. How about the woman who not going to recent events? But she 1430 01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:12,039 said she saw a kid along the highway and she pulled over and she's calling 1431 01:43:12,079 --> 01:43:15,479 the cops, and the cops found she's not there. She says, I've 1432 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,920 been kidnapped. She shows up like four days later looking okay, and then 1433 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:23,760 they searched her computer and it looks she's been you know, she's been searching 1434 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,199 for how do I, you know, kidnap myself? Well, you know, 1435 01:43:26,279 --> 01:43:29,760 it's the best way to kidnap someone. But now she should be the 1436 01:43:30,399 --> 01:43:33,279 well she was gone her you know, people look at her and then and 1437 01:43:33,319 --> 01:43:39,000 they gave publicity photos of her walking at Times Square and she's near the Statue 1438 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,399 of Liberty. And now she's done the same thing, but she's become this 1439 01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:45,399 kind of minus celebrity and she's getting interviewed, and you know she'll get it, 1440 01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:49,079 she'll get a fine or something. And she said she was kidnapped by 1441 01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:56,399 his wife, and his wife they forced her to undress and they did all 1442 01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,880 kinds of things to her. Is the movie. And then she finally got 1443 01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:03,560 a way of her own free will clothed this time, and walk back to 1444 01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,880 her house. There you go, Okay, it rights itself. Come on, 1445 01:44:09,239 --> 01:44:12,279 But it's just funny people out. You don't know how like an internet 1446 01:44:12,399 --> 01:44:17,399 search history works or likes like when someone kills let's get AI on this. 1447 01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,920 Yeah yeah, it's like when someone kills kills, kills someone in the family, 1448 01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:26,159 and then they do the check of their yeah, google searches. How 1449 01:44:26,199 --> 01:44:29,119 do I poison someone? How do I how do I clean up a crime 1450 01:44:29,199 --> 01:44:31,680 scene? How do I know? It's like the first thing they say is 1451 01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:39,000 go to one, go to Walmart, duct go or something good. Go 1452 01:44:39,119 --> 01:44:42,000 to Walmart and get picked up on the TV camera. You know, buying 1453 01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:45,640 buying home can shovel on something, lie you know. But the thing is, 1454 01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,279 you think you'd go to Nord VPN and sort of do a VPN, 1455 01:44:48,359 --> 01:44:51,319 so there's no tracing it. I don't know. I don't know what you're 1456 01:44:51,359 --> 01:44:56,760 talking about. It's about the duct No, No, just the Nord VPN 1457 01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,640 sort of shields where you come, where you're from, and a lot of 1458 01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,119 people do that with sports. Now, well, I'm surprised you don't know 1459 01:45:02,279 --> 01:45:06,359 that. Let's talk later, so listen. So while it's time to wrap 1460 01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:13,199 up very quickly, please excuse me. Linda Scarberry one of the first witnesses 1461 01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:18,319 of the Mothman. They had apparitions of men and black in her in the 1462 01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:23,239 house. I mean she also they also saw them on the street, but 1463 01:45:23,319 --> 01:45:28,640 this one showed up and freaked them out and then disappeared. She was also 1464 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:32,920 experiencing poltergeist phenomena after she saw the moth mat all kinds of bizarre things going 1465 01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,399 on in her house when it had never happened before. You were hearing strange 1466 01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:43,039 beeping noises outside the house and strange phone calls with garbled voices and static, 1467 01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,359 so something very strange. What's going on? Yeah, yeah, I think 1468 01:45:46,399 --> 01:45:50,840 the whole idea of someone in your house is a very very scary thing, 1469 01:45:51,239 --> 01:45:54,680 you know what I mean. I mean, as a kid, I used 1470 01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,039 to have dreams about stuff like that, and I know that you know people 1471 01:45:57,079 --> 01:45:59,840 that breaks people out. That's a I was going to commit to you. 1472 01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:01,079 How some of the night you hear them, you don't know what to do 1473 01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:08,720 as I've shoot them, right, But I think that's an in a few 1474 01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:14,439 that a lot of people have. That's you know, this is already a 1475 01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:21,039 disturbing story case with like the grinning alone that like you know, is very 1476 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:28,199 unsettling. The thing that gets me is the dreams, because you're you're not 1477 01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,479 supposed to see people that, like, you don't know in your dreams, 1478 01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:35,880 like you you had to have they had you had to have seen them before 1479 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:42,239 in real life in order for them to manifest in a dreamed bess. Yeah 1480 01:46:42,319 --> 01:46:44,319 that makes sense. Yep. I never thought of that. So it's it's 1481 01:46:44,399 --> 01:46:48,239 weird if like these are just like willy nilly showing up in someone's dream for 1482 01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:53,880 like no reason because your brain can't think of that. You're sleep like, 1483 01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:58,399 it doesn't it's not allowed to do that. Yeah, I've never heard of 1484 01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:01,199 that. Very very doesn't car You're up an image that you've never seen something 1485 01:47:01,239 --> 01:47:05,680 else, rightly take from Yeah, it can only take from the stored memories 1486 01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:09,399 that you have. So it's like that's why a lot of the time people 1487 01:47:09,399 --> 01:47:13,239 will dream of like their family and friends because that's so Yes, yeah, 1488 01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:15,760 I dream of Susan Harvey back in the second grade and I still do. 1489 01:47:17,359 --> 01:47:19,600 But yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've never thought of that before. 1490 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:25,359 So if you see someone in your dream that, let's say you don't recognize 1491 01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:30,039 or it's the first time you've ever seen this face and something's really out of 1492 01:47:30,079 --> 01:47:33,920 control there, or something's going on right, Yeah, and you know, 1493 01:47:34,119 --> 01:47:38,960 we should really do like an episode on like dreaming and like lucid dreaming, 1494 01:47:39,039 --> 01:47:43,439 because that's a whole other like rabbit hole to go down. But yeah, 1495 01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:46,600 you're you're only you're like, it's you'll never see something that like you you 1496 01:47:47,199 --> 01:47:50,239 someone that you don't know, like it might even if it's somebody that you 1497 01:47:50,359 --> 01:47:56,079 saw like in passing. Yeah, like it's still somebody you physically seen, 1498 01:47:56,279 --> 01:48:00,760 because that's what your brain can register. Wow, I don't know who do 1499 01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:02,479 that. That's crazy. Yeah, I have dreams and I'll get up in 1500 01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:04,760 the middle of the night to you know, take a squizz or whatever, 1501 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:10,000 and then I'll just go back to sleep and they'll pick up the dream again. 1502 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:16,760 You can do that, do that. Yeah, I don't ever remember 1503 01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,479 dreams. I wake up in the morning, I don't remember anything. I'm 1504 01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:24,119 I think I'm lucky because I don't remember in color? What's this deal about? 1505 01:48:24,159 --> 01:48:28,920 You don't usually dream in color. I've dreamt in color. I've deaf, 1506 01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,399 but it might have been in color. And if you like. Sometimes 1507 01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:36,680 and I'm having a dream, I'll someone will write something don and I just 1508 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:41,760 try like crazy to see what it is, as if there's some secret they're 1509 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:43,680 going to give me in my dream, but I can never read it, 1510 01:48:44,239 --> 01:48:45,520 you know what I mean? Something I'll you know that maybe it's a lottery 1511 01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:49,119 number, something like that, and the talking Hustle in the future comes in 1512 01:48:49,239 --> 01:48:56,640 and everything. I'm but I mean, if Keith Richards can dream about a 1513 01:48:56,760 --> 01:49:00,520 riff that becomes a number one hit, sock, Yeah, right, you 1514 01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:02,159 got to be able to dream up some lottery Now he does that all the 1515 01:49:02,199 --> 01:49:05,239 time. But Jack, you're saying, mister Red talks to you. Oh, 1516 01:49:05,359 --> 01:49:08,960 he said, are talking horse? What did you say? Talking loss 1517 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,439 from the future. Someone always says, yeah, we have a punched the 1518 01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,560 script up. I'm just bringing a talking hosts from the future. Well, 1519 01:49:15,039 --> 01:49:18,640 mister Red could come in and just mister Reed. Oh Wilburn. But Keith 1520 01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,560 Riches does that all the time. Do you know what I mean? That's 1521 01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:26,039 he's he's kind of like dreaming about work in a way. You know. 1522 01:49:26,119 --> 01:49:30,520 I can see that, and and I think that's why I dream the way 1523 01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,359 I do. I think that you dream. If someone one said, it's 1524 01:49:32,399 --> 01:49:36,960 like it's defragging your your memory, you know, it's it's like getting alma. 1525 01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,720 That's a good term for it. Yeah, and you have to do 1526 01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,840 that. Yeah, and never have this one. I've had dreams where it's 1527 01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:47,560 you know, it's like a Netflix series, you know, part one really 1528 01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:55,680 yeah, a pot a pot Okay, it may not it may not be 1529 01:49:56,319 --> 01:49:58,720 as jointed, it may not pick up where you left off, but it's 1530 01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:02,479 sort of like a overlaps. Yeah, yes, we characters, maybe a 1531 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:08,720 different subplot or something and something weird. It's like a lately I don't know, 1532 01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:12,439 it's because of old age what I've been dreaming about. Watch I knew 1533 01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,720 in high school. Yeah, that's old age. Hey, listen, remember 1534 01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,479 there was a guy that we used to have on and the Do you remember 1535 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,640 that guy we used to have on early in the show. He was some 1536 01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:26,520 New York He's a futurist. He had a very kind of hip name. 1537 01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,239 Anyway, he told us that the Japman this is good. Five years ago, 1538 01:50:31,039 --> 01:50:34,600 the Japanese were working on this thing where you would be able to wear 1539 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:41,319 this kind of headgear at night and in the morning your dreams would be animated. 1540 01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:46,560 You'd have a little cartoon of your dreams. Okay, that's scared. 1541 01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:49,880 Maybe there isn't something. Yeah, but that was that's coming down the line. 1542 01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,399 There was a movie about a guy who could come into your dreams. 1543 01:50:55,039 --> 01:50:58,399 Yeah, Freddy, No, it wasn't like not a horror thing. He 1544 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,680 was more he could come in and interact in your dreams. But like they 1545 01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:06,439 did it with the president or something because he was having these nightmares and so 1546 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:10,640 they put this guy near him so when he fell asleep, the guy could 1547 01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:14,399 go in and enter the dream and kind of manipulate it. So it wasn't 1548 01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:15,960 such a big deal or a big a problem. I forget what it was 1549 01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:19,640 called, but it was kind of interesting because these people had the ability in 1550 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:25,439 theory to enter your dreams, into your dreams and actually interact with you and 1551 01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:29,319 the change the outcome. I could see a business there, they get virtual 1552 01:51:29,399 --> 01:51:32,960 reality. Just think my dreams. Maybe, so listen, why don't we 1553 01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:38,520 do that was my dream? Why don't we wrap up the show? Switch 1554 01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:45,319 already has the train. I couldn't think of the right word. It's such 1555 01:51:45,359 --> 01:51:47,479 a cool train record. I can really you what they used to do. 1556 01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,039 You what they used to do back in the West. And the pictures of 1557 01:51:50,119 --> 01:51:57,239 this is that they'd have a canival and on the last day they'd get to 1558 01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:02,399 trains to steam locomotives to hit each other, you know, to just you 1559 01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:06,119 know, kind of demolish each other. And I think they used to beat 1560 01:52:06,239 --> 01:52:10,840 up at the start of the demolition Derby Attorney. Yeah, the beginning of 1561 01:52:11,199 --> 01:52:15,479 it was there was a train new report that did that. Yeah. I 1562 01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:19,520 also read today that there was this tan and Nevada back in the Old West, 1563 01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,640 and they would take the train through it and it's just like this sleepy 1564 01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,319 old place, and people said, hey, listen, why don't we spice 1565 01:52:27,359 --> 01:52:30,880 this up? So they paid the Indians Native Americans And there's a caval unit 1566 01:52:31,039 --> 01:52:34,279 nearby, so anytime the train would go buy that have this fake battle, 1567 01:52:35,119 --> 01:52:39,159 you know, so the people on the train would say, wow, we 1568 01:52:39,279 --> 01:52:42,880 saw that movie. Give me re enactors are real? No, they were 1569 01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,439 real, they were real. They had nothing to do, they were friends. 1570 01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:49,840 So it was like, f trewe why don't we do this? Why 1571 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,960 don't we say? Yeah? Thank you Greg Massow for joining us tonight, 1572 01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:58,159 educating us on AI a little bit. I think it's gonna I think it's 1573 01:52:58,199 --> 01:53:00,600 gonna be one of these things. So it's gonna do great things, and 1574 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:04,159 then it's going to be kind of out of control. The hot stock chip 1575 01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:08,439 about how it can see. People are always going to try to manipulate it. 1576 01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,039 That's the thing, you know. If there's a dollar to be made, 1577 01:53:11,159 --> 01:53:15,000 someone will find the one corrupted to make money for them. So thank 1578 01:53:15,039 --> 01:53:20,479 you to Greg Switchy, thank you switch You would cap the trunch. What's 1579 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:26,399 next week? Can you give us a preview on food? Yeah? I'm 1580 01:53:26,399 --> 01:53:29,039 shooting from the hip kid, Are you really? Oh? Oh yeah? 1581 01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:32,720 The new switching You haven't had any antiments donuts for a while, don't say 1582 01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,720 that, no, no, but but they're available here and I have them 1583 01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:42,239 once in a while. Day. What kind what would it cost just to 1584 01:53:42,399 --> 01:53:47,920 package up and send buttman's don't it's about ninety nine bucks. Theyre pal laughs. 1585 01:53:48,199 --> 01:53:51,520 Try and find out just the laughs. I sent over a little buttons 1586 01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:56,079 to people in England cost me like about eighty seven dollars. Okay, so 1587 01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:00,520 it's crazy, it's nuts. If you sent it slow boat, they'd be 1588 01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:02,760 still by the time they cut there. That's true. And we get it's 1589 01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:06,159 got to go through customs, right, yeah, they'll Raven, what what 1590 01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:10,800 kind of damnats did you get? I love doughnuts, so I picked out 1591 01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:14,880 I really like glaze, so I got some glaze and I got a blueberry 1592 01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:21,479 jelly filled with the Yeah good. I got it from my local Wegmans because 1593 01:54:23,119 --> 01:54:27,000 greet So we went first thing in the morning on Sunday. M Yeah, 1594 01:54:27,079 --> 01:54:30,840 yeah, yeah, you're killing me, Raven. No, I'm sorry. 1595 01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:38,600 Vision chips for days over there, so we're we're supposed to be. It's 1596 01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:44,319 notting tomorrow. So anyway, thank you one one. I'm going to save 1597 01:54:44,399 --> 01:54:45,880 the best guys want thanks you join as we'll talk to you soon. You're 1598 01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:49,600 welcome, my pleasure. I'm happy to do it, And Raven said, 1599 01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:53,640 at the time of the night, we have staked by to you. You've 1600 01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:58,000 made us so hungry, so much for having me, thank you for joining 1601 01:54:58,079 --> 01:55:00,960 us, and I just want to thank everyone else for listening. Let me 1602 01:55:00,199 --> 01:55:05,600 quickly do the plug homes Raw Troops Homeside Troops as a military organization that raises 1603 01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:11,520 money for our veterans who are wounded in post nine eleven action. That's the 1604 01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:15,039 Iraqi War, also the Afghan war. And these folks who came home probably 1605 01:55:15,159 --> 01:55:20,399 missing a limb and homestrot Troops builds them homes that are adapted to their situation, 1606 01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:25,640 so lower counterspaces, how they any stay is why the doorways things llat 1607 01:55:26,399 --> 01:55:30,199 like that. And then when they're through, they rib up the mortgage, 1608 01:55:30,239 --> 01:55:32,399 they give them the keys. It's their house forever and they can go and 1609 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:38,199 joint society and they don't have that whole thing of a mortgage payment hanging over 1610 01:55:38,239 --> 01:55:41,520 their heads. Nice houses. We went to one of them, Lewis and 1611 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,600 a couple of months ago, very very nice house homes Raw Troops. Please 1612 01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:49,720 google them and see what they're about. Ninety cents on your dollar. Cent 1613 01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:55,520 of your dollar goes strictly right to our veterans, So please check them out. 1614 01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:57,680 And I think that's it. Gang. Oh. I just want to 1615 01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:05,199 say that we have a contest going for a mashup of Scrabble and Monopoly, 1616 01:56:06,039 --> 01:56:11,199 courtesy Philip Baines, who was the past president of Winning Moves that makes all 1617 01:56:11,279 --> 01:56:15,159 the kind of games that we grew up with and we have to and the 1618 01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:20,840 secret is for the first a bunch of people to write to us and tell 1619 01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:25,560 us what the name of Raven's drink was last week. We're going to pretend 1620 01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:29,920 she was drinking again this week and we'll pick your name out of the magic 1621 01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:31,239 fish bowl. So do you remember the name of the drink that you were 1622 01:56:31,319 --> 01:56:36,920 drinking right now? Right? Yeah? So last week I was drinking the 1623 01:56:38,039 --> 01:56:44,399 Baywatch. This week I had hot black coffee. Hot black coffee. Okay, 1624 01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,119 Okay, let's say Baywatch is the secret word. Okay, So just 1625 01:56:48,319 --> 01:56:54,279 write to us at Wingman and macloney dot com, hit the contact button and 1626 01:56:54,399 --> 01:56:59,840 tell us Baywatch and you'll get into the magic fish bowl for a The Winning 1627 01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:04,239 for Eyes is a mash up a game that they put together which is based 1628 01:57:04,279 --> 01:57:08,199 on Scrabble and also Monopoly, and someone looks it up the other day it's 1629 01:57:08,239 --> 01:57:12,880 like worth eighty bucks. So oh, Usa, only sorry, and you 1630 01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,239 know, we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks. So, 1631 01:57:15,439 --> 01:57:17,960 Raven, thank you very much for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank 1632 01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:20,319 you so much. Okay, we'd like your cat the best. By the 1633 01:57:20,359 --> 01:57:27,680 way, Gray, do you hear that he's sitting right here? Yeah? 1634 01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:33,680 Sorry, Oh, there's the ASPCA calling me. Well, so why don't 1635 01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:44,560 we hang on a second? This could be important? What this is live 1636 01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:54,560 radio? Yes? Hello? Hi, yes, speaker, Yes, I 1637 01:57:54,680 --> 01:58:00,720 am yes macloni. Yes, good. How are you hire? Yah? 1638 01:58:01,479 --> 01:58:13,720 H hm yes, yes? Where are you? Where you located? Where 1639 01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:20,920 are you located? Bull? Are you married? Are you? Are you 1640 01:58:21,039 --> 01:58:26,319 married? Yeah? How long? How long have you been married? For 1641 01:58:26,359 --> 01:58:32,119 him? Whoever's on the other line? Hung up? Five years? Interesting? 1642 01:58:32,239 --> 01:58:44,760 Okay, go ahead, please come on please huh backed, I don't 1643 01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:47,199 have to long. Could you hang on for one second. I'll be right 1644 01:58:47,239 --> 01:58:51,119 back. Okay, thank you. Prove a speaker phone No, I can 1645 01:58:51,239 --> 01:58:57,239 barely understand her. If you record somebody about their permission right off from Someone 1646 01:58:57,319 --> 01:59:01,439 got mc maloney's private phone number and has been calling me to promote the book. 1647 01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,359 Yeah. It's been really kind of nuts. Can you block phone numbers? 1648 01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:09,319 Sure? Yeah, okay, but how they got my number is my 1649 01:59:09,479 --> 01:59:12,960 private numbers in private, you know what I mean. It's kind of weird. 1650 01:59:13,159 --> 01:59:16,640 So anyway we've got that inadvertently or not in whatnot? Not the cell 1651 01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:20,920 numbers. Nope, I don't give it, you know, I don't think 1652 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:26,159 even think I have it. Yeah, yeah, it's anyway. Why don't 1653 01:59:26,159 --> 01:59:28,520 we end the show on that. It's the damn cat. Thank you the 1654 01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:33,279 cat. It's one of those cats. Thanks for busting and until next time 1655 01:59:33,359 --> 01:59:36,199 you hear us, this is back for the entire gang, saying be safe, 1656 01:59:36,279 --> 01:59:39,560 be happy, and bye bye