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This is macmloney's Military X files, and now here's macmloney. Well good
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Network. This is Mac maloney and what I show We have and stow for
you tonight, befrest. Let me introduce the members of the posse. Girls.
They're ready to sit down, get your missed to, get your big
box of cleaning, your big box of wifes, your squeegee and yellu because
he's there. They're very famous. One one, Hello, girls, Hello
ladies, Hello everybody, Welcome to the show. Good to see you Mac.
Good to see everybody. Good to be here, good to be anywhere,
Good to be anywhere. What's going on? Don't over there? Absolutely
across the pond, whether it's gotten gott a little bit better. It's been
raining for a week, yes, off and on. It's sort of like
New England weather. Huh, and it really bumps me out. I mean
all the locals say, well, you know you got to wear your rain
gear. Oh. I mean there's there's a store that just sells nothing but
h waterproof everything. Why does that not approach to ye as if you're a
fisherman or something. Yeah, yeah, you're kind of stylish. Waterproof everything
they like to carry an umbrella, you know what. Yeah, self flagellation
means. Do you know what that means? Self flagellation, What that means?
Yeah, it doesn't means what you probably think it means. It means
you know, I'm always the modern you know what I mean? Yeah,
And I think that's how the British people is just ingrained in them. Oh,
we put up with so much, you know, own they love it
and they like Actually they don't. It's funny. They don't like it,
yes, but they don't like it. And then they do. They complain
about it more than I do. They don't like it. They've lived with
it all their lives. They think it's terrible. There's there's summers. The
joke is that you know, it's summer, it's only raining a little bit
seven days a week, and go ahead. And that's how they live their
life. And they and they laugh about it, and they say, look
at crazy American Okay, yes, And of course a lot of the Brits,
you know, have Polish accents, So look at crazy American Polish accents.
Where are you. There's a lot of Polish, a lot of Lithuanian
and Ukrainian here. Yeah, that's truly. And they have the coolest accents
actually, okay, yeah they do. Yeah. You get the woman that's
sold sold our new sofa was from. She says, where do you think
I'm from? I said, Poland, No, Lithuania okay, And I
could have bought ten sofas from this check. Wow, I can only fit
one of the in the cottage. But you know, yeah, a lot
of a lot of and you know some of them sound Russian too. It's
probably Russian. It's that accent is kind of uh, with a little bit
of a twist, can be from anywhere. Yeah, yeah, sure,
anyway, your nice Wow, when they're behind the counter, when you're trying
to buy something and you don't quite understand you're not picking up the accent.
Yes, but the locals do. You keep asking, I'm sorry, but
would you say again? You know it's and then it becomes a bit more
clean. You get used to it. Yeah, yeah, you get used
to the dialects. I'm trying to get used to the joint. You know.
That's what's going on with me. Well, on with this soldier,
brave soldiers, all as how it goes, Yeah, being on with my
with my wellies and my brollies. Yes, I didn't even want to know
what that means. Well it is. Anyone said, Bob's your uncle,
not yet, and it always are Wellington's that those green boots that you see
the queen wearing that come up almost like, yeah, four inches below.
They buried her in her wellies, didn't they didn't they get and then they
gave her a bottle and put a bottle of gin in their casket. I
drink it. Yeah, okay, she went out, She went out anyway,
No tonight out there day in the world. But a natural correspondence switch
played Steve Waughters. This would she It's great to be here tonight. Mack.
He looks like he's in prison, doesn't They bars behind him there,
I check special effects. That's the an ethereal moth man behind me, ever
ever present, always looking for my shoulder. Okay. It was just like
we couldn't see his face, he saw the bars. Just seeing the orange
shirt. You really looked like, you know, on prison and uh oh
a red shirt? What's it? Might not make it? See the start
track and sing you oh yeah yeah yeah. When they killed guy. Yeah,
okay, lost communications here, Okay, we can hear you. You
might be traveling to our part of the world there soon. Yes, okay,
don't wear that. Okay, don't even bring that. Hey, listen,
I got all kinds of cool shirts, man, Okay, I could
wear one shirt every hour on the half hour. Please don't do that.
Okay, all right, thank you. You have your mcmlaloney uniform in case
we need it somewhere. You know, my my shirts get piled up like
layers of top soil, and they're clean, but then you know they some
of them get kind of pushed underneath not see them for months, so I
have to look okay, all right anyway, Nope, Club tonight. Club
is going south. He's going south to the border, down to North Carolina
to visit friends. So clublest Tonight, however, Oh, first of all
in the studio with us is Uncle Allow, the Kiddy's pal al Ronaldo.
You're a Paul mechanic slash getaway driver. Oh Mac, hello, everyone,
what's what's what's happening? Was the beat keeper of Plumb Island down The bees
are doing okay. I mean we had like two days of sunny weather so
and then again today it's raining again. So yeah, they were very active.
They're coming and going, they're they're doing their thing. Hopefully there's uh
something in the hives. When I go to take it out next month,
it's gonna steal all their food, not all of it, but the golden
rods blooming right now, so they should be into the golden rod pretty good,
Oh goody, they're always so you're not allergic to golden rod. You
don't seeze when you're pulling out golden rod based honey. Then when they process
it you can you can't tell what it came out of it. And now
you never have an allergy issue with it. The thing, we don't have
allergy issues when we were consuming your honey. No, you never wouldn't you
know it's boiled. Don't you boil it? No, I don't do any
it's rocking. Yeah. If you boil it, you destroyed all of the
high all the good stuff the bees. But man, that that stuff comes,
I extract that like the stuff I gave to uh the missus the other
day. It was in the hive two hours before I gave it. Wow,
huh. I strained it through a real fine screen check the chunks of
wax out. But that's it. Well, it was on my toast and
lah, there you go anyway an oak club, but a very good witch
up there in sideways and yeah, because but this raven raven? How you
doing tonight? Hi, my friends, thank you so much for having me.
I'm doing great. Okay, okay, get your glasses on. Get
the glasses on. That's that's kind of sick. Why there, I say
it kind of the sec with everything going on there is that probably not.
I woke up and my my eyes were just like on fire from all the
smoke that we still have coming through years. So I figured contacts, we're
not a good idea. Freaking Canadians Still the Canadian fires are still bugging you
peoples. Yeah, we're still getting like because we're like in a valley,
so we're getting like all of that's just kind of tunneled right down and it
doesn't linger like it was, but it's still just kind of passing through.
Yeah. Yeah, we've I mean, we've had you know, a couple
of days of it. I could even just small something in the but that
was a while of them. Yeah, they can't get that out of the
control, but just letting it, you know, I don't know, burn
itself up. So's already burn more acreage than more size than the United States.
And then where we got global warming and you know all this stuff going
on. Yeah, I know this is something. I mean, it seems
like you should have the military or something fighting those things, you know what
I mean. But anyway, that's just the bonies, right, what else
did they do? Anyway? So, well, we have an interesting show
for you tonight. We're gonna be talking about a bunch of things, which
is report. I'm gonna be talking to Greg Mastow in a little while about
the dangers of AI and I read well, I don't want to say every
story I say, you know on my news feed about AI, but I
you'll read enough of them to know that I don't understand this. All idea
how they're going to take us over and all that stuff. I don't get
it. To me. It's just one hugely glorified FAQ, right fact thing.
It only contains the knowledge that we put in it. It's not thinking
on its own, or at least that's how I think, right for I
don't know, maybe I'm wrong. So we'll ask Greg from video game designer
friend. Greg mastered him in a while and I started to write a top
ten and it was like top ten reasons, Uh, you know switches,
cats will lead him when he dies that you know, one of those things.
Yeah, it's that one and uh and then I said, didn't we
use this before? And then you know, I get distracted by something,
so no top tens and ironically club isn't here to enjoy it. But I
read this weird story today, very strange, and and I know we've done
this before, but I get caught. I get caught in the rabbit hole
on online and because that, you know, I click onto these things.
I keep getting more and more stories and it's like just weird things that have
happened to people, just weird, you know, not UFOs, any crypton
and just weird stuff too. You know, they put out a survey and
these people answer them. And I know we talked about this a while ago
where I remember I was like paying three out of a bucket of Volkswai can
buck and I'm that's all the money I had in the wheel and I had
to spread out on my kitchen table and I was kind of thinking it,
waiting for the guy to come and give me the car meetium the money,
and I was kind one more time, and one of the twenties just fell
on the floor and went underneath this touch covert in the kitchen. So I
said, okay, you know, and I saw it. I saw it.
Never found it again. We moved the hutch covert. Everything looked,
looked in the bottom kind of nothing. Never found it, and which was
weird. But this one person said, you know, I'm just in in
the middle name my living room. I have my cell phone. Something makes
me drop it. I drop, but I hear it drop, okay,
and then I go to look for it and it's not there. I can't
find it. I can't find it. So she gets another phone and calls
the number and it turns out, ye know, the signal is can't be
found or something like that. So anyway, so I'm going to ask one
one if I have anything strange like that happened to you. Is this like
it goes into some I don't know, alternate worlds are a different that matrix
thing. Go ahead, Is this the story about you in the wagon and
the moving truck? Yeah right, okay, go ahead, tell us,
okay, want to hear that story there? The whole story? Yeah,
yeah, an abbreviated version would be good. Go ahead. You're sitting on
the corner in your little wagon right were the red wagon is. You know
the wagons that you can you know, right in you can radio flyer sit
in it, yes, pull things with it. Anyway, I'm sitting in
the red wagon not doing anything other than, you know, minding my own
business. I'm on the sidewalk in front of my house, and across the
street there is a sort of a small industrial park in which is a Allied
van Lines moving in storage place. But who cares. That's place has been
there forever. So I'm in my red wagon and I spot something in the
lawn, you know, and our property in the lawn that's sort of just
glimmered and caught my eye and had no idea what it was. So I
get out of my red wagon and I walk over about ten feet to the
spot in the lawn looking for something that caught my eye, and I really
can't find anything. But that's not the point. But what I heard was
a noise. I turned around in this an Allied van Line tractor trailer coming
up with a like a big you know, like fifty foot or you know,
these low load of the ground tall, long, and he's he's a
double dual wheels and the tractor you know, and runs over the right over
the red wagon. He jumped the curb. He clearly the driver was from
out of It was a led Van Line's company that was from way out of
town. Maybe it wasn't used to making that turn. It to a ninety
degree turn, go on the street that we lived on, yes, to
get out of Cambridge, and ran over the red wagon. Wow. Pretty
much three quarters crushed it. Wow. Yeah. And it was so quiet
too. It's like all of a sudden it's there and then it's it's sort
of grunting as it's going going over to stop. The guy sees it stops
and I feel what happened after that? I sort of like ran away.
It's something. I'm like, I don't know what I do about this.
Yeah, you'm out of here. Yeah, like somehow you thought you were
in trouble. Stopped thinking he might have hit something, but looked and didn't
see anything and just went up. You know, he just went up the
street. Was that it? I mean, did you sue him or anything?
You're doing it now? No, we didn't get it, get his
normal. We didn't bought my parents. My parents were in the house.
I just like, you know, hey, guess what happened like after the
fact, you cool, Yeah, we didn't stop the guy. The guy,
but didn't this a traffic light further up? You know, he probably
probably could have grabbed him there and say, what's the story? I found
out from Allied Vanlanch who was that truck that just left? These days would
be one one van Mines if you were still happen to him, you know.
So all right, I'm gonna go. So I'm gonna Raven, can
you tell us a similar story, just some weird thing that's happened to you?
Yeah, Like mine's like similar to yours, and like this it's so
mundane, but like this is the one that like sticks out because this has
happened to me a few times, but for some reason, this is the
one I remember. I must have been like I don't know, four or
five, and I had a polly pocket. Okay, you guys know what
polly pockets are. No, I never heard of it. What did it
know? Oh my god. So they're like these little little things, like
these little heart shaped containers, little boxes, and you open it up and
there was like a little house inside, and they had like those these little
action figures that you could put a super cute any nineties, you know,
a little kid had one, so as at my grandmother's house. And I
had this cool poly pocket and it had a swan with it, and I
never had a swan with a polypocket ever. So I'm playing with it and
I dropped it on the floor. Now there was like it was carpeted,
and it wasn't like thick shag carpeting. It was like a low carpeted rug.
You could have easily seen this thing, and it's like it fell into
a black hole. It was never seen again. And I looked for it
for hours, obsessing over it because that was the only one I ever had,
and you know Amazon didn't exist order one, not in that dimension anyway.
But see, that's the same thing that happened to me, the same
thing happened to this person online today. Is that just something happens and it
just there's I mean, there's a whole that quantum physics stuff that actually there's
what is it? Uh? Everything is just a game of chance. You
know, I could put my hand through this wall, you know, one
one times at a four hundred trillion or something, right, but it would
happen, It can physically happen, so maybe that's what happens. But you
know, when something falls, maybe who knows. Let's see, I've go
to al Al. You must have a nice short story about I mean,
you know nothing to that degree. But you know in my house, I
have a crawlspace under the house, if you will. It's not a real
full seller. Yes, and it's short, and it gets shorter as you
go deeper in and uh, it's just sand floor and it's beach sand,
so it's very very fine sand. You got down there with anything in your
pockets, You go down there with anything in your hand and you drop it.
It's gone forever. Yeah, it's gone forever. And I have actually
been down there working and kicking around, and I'll find a wrench that's been
there probably for seventy five years because somebody else dropped it. So it's just
one of these things that you know it's out of your hands and again you
don't even move and you look down it's gone. Yes, it's Uh.
Crawl space is one of those words that you hear it this automatically thing missing
relatives, you know, I found. I found the bones under way one
time other than the house. For no I found the bones, but it
wasn't in this house. It was an old house we rented, Okay,
there was. The floor was really soft from uh water, you know,
water getting in and damaging it. So we were going to rip out the
floor and replace it, and so we cut out the real rotted parts,
but it was still has some bounce to it. So before we covered it
over with new plywood, I was told get under there, and they dropped
down some cement blocks, like drag over into the middle and stack them up
and put some wood, you know. So I'm doing that, and I've
got an extension light on a long wire and I'm sorting light down there,
and I'm way away from the hole and I'm down and it's kind of you
know, bumpy down and so I take my hands and I'm trying to clear
off a flat spot to put the cement block, and I started hitting bones,
and I started hitting bones that were big, big bones, not like
leg bones size, you know. And and then of course the person up
top had no idea what was going on, but being funny, he unplugged
the light just so now I'm down with a bunch of bones, and you
know the light the tunnel, you know, the light to get out is
down there, and it was not it was kind of exciting. Well what
kind of bones? I never actually I didn't find a skull, so I
couldn't say what exactly. But they were big. But it was either a
large animal like you know, or somebody's husband or wife. But when I
ended up doing was, I sort of moved some sand next to it and
said, listen, I'm sorry I bothered you. I put the bones back
in the hole. I covered it back up. Yeah, a little religious
ceremony. I just I covered my I covered my basis. And that house
was that house was haunted. It was. There was so much stuff going
on in that house. Okay, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a
previous owner. That meant occupant. Yep. So when I get back out
of the hole, I you know, we threw the plywood down, nailed
it down, and like no one said boo. Ever again it's still probably
Clayton, the social Security checks, probably the grandma. Anyway, listen,
switching you must hold it. Did you have to disclose that situation? Messages?
I was a renter. Oh he's a renting Okay, he's coming.
Switch you must have. Well it's another uh you know, you can't find
it and it won't show up. I had the uh the water garbage build
come and I said it at a particular spot on top of the little bookcase.
And when I went to find it, it wasn't there. So I
went through all the paper and then I went to other stacks of papers just
in case I put it somewhere else. And I thought, oh, it'll
turn up. It's got to be. I mean, I'm looking on the
floor. There's only so many places you can fly. Maybe it felled into
the bookcase anyway, So it wasn't turning up, so I thought, oh
my god. So I actually started cleaning the place. I moved the bookcase
and started sweeping back there. It's not there. But I did see a
couple enormous dust bunnies, bigger than I've ever seen, to the point they
were almost sentient. I was afraid if I didn't destroy them, my comp
alive. Yes. Anyway, I actually went to downtown to pay the bill
and I still have not found that. Wow wow wow see, And that's
we'll tell them the same story, you know what I mean, like someone
that has fallen that you just hey, we're sure it's fallen and you just
can't find it. But mine head dust bunnies in it. I think they
ate it. Neil Moss, what are you drinking this witchy water? Oh
okay, all right, you've been thinking. Okay, one of the other
weird stories that I've read today, this was like really strange. So this
guy as a kid, he goes and he test drives some car right and
in between all that, he loses his wallet. He can't find his wallet.
They don't know where it is, so on itself. What years go
by, he's moving, he rents a ride of truck, he drops something
on the floor. When he goes down to get it, he sees a
wallet underneath that seat and it's his wallet. I'm thinking that it was such
a way wake Linsdens, you know. But anyway, so speaking a scary
story switch which I have for breakfast today? This morning for breakfast, I
had Cereal, I had Captain Crunch. Hang on, hang on, yeah,
why don't we clapp I him? Please? I'm We're gonna have to
really wow sweets. Yeah, make you want to have a second ball.
Yeah, oh I love it. In college, Baby, when that came
out, it was like they go to you know, they finally corrected Captain
Crunch, They found captain and he's captain. He was always had the wrong
number of bars. Oh will, oh will. Yeah. Yeah, so
they finally corrected and put the fourth bar bar. I guess to makee him
a captain because for all these years he's only had like three stripes and it
wasn't I guess, Lieutenant Commander Crunch. Yeah, it doesn't roll off the
time they corrected that, I guess In the latest. Wow, I love
that stuff. I know it's just to get back pay nothing, but yeah
he should. I was gonna say that's some brand attorney at work. But
anyway, Wow, so why did you have it in the house? Switch?
I bought it? Really? Yeah, you're not ashamed of it,
you know, a wealthy man about challenge, Yes, you know, fixing
it up a bit. Okay, maybe not wealthy to get captain. Yes,
maybe they got pulled out of moth Man's don't say that that's gone Ryan.
So wait wait, get the peanut butter or is it regular? Regular?
Regular? Yeah? Yeah, baby steps, Baby steps, Tess but
listen, don't you think that the elder peanut fire the elder ladies around town.
I'm gonna say that goes the moth Man guy. Yeah, yep,
yes, yeah, when they when they find out I worked at the moth
fam Museum. Yes, for the person that they ask is where's the county
line? And how quickly can I get? Oh? Come on, switch
see stop picking up my friend switch look, And then the other one can
say yeah, and he loves Captain crunch, right, I suppose that's a
you know, not too many people know yet. I mean, this is
the first place I've announced it, so just kind of tap dance, yeah,
switchy. So anyway, so, uh so you had a bowl of
how many balls? Too? No? I had one? Really? What
kind of melt pace myself? Two percent milk? Yep, two percent milk
coffee. I make some hot black coffee. Yeah, okay, right,
I can't do two percent milk with Syrial. Have to have you have to
have real milk in Syrial. Let me too. As we were driving along
Route one today and Riley, you know, there's there's two diners like wait
next to each other, sum and one of them said, biscuits and gravy,
and of course Lewis, no, no, this is on the side.
It's up the governor dumb mel of them, that governor d and the
Governor's academy. Now as yeah, they thought they took out of it.
As we're going by, you know, Lewis is going to usually ninety five,
so we couldn't stop, you know, but we're going back this so
that place. I don't know why she does drive fast both to the police.
She should have bought my challenger. Oh no, no, no,
no, no no. However, anytime any and maybe the three times we've
been up law enforcement with her behind the wheel without acting, she just automatically
cries, okay, just like in the cops. You know, a couple
it's worked a couple of times, hasn't quite worked a couple of times.
But then she goes when you say it hasn't quite worked. Where she got
just a warning, right, No, no, no, always been a
yeah, just a warning twice and then and then nothing those other times.
No, no, twice got a ticket and then went and how you can
you know, magstrate, you go to the magistrate and give you a side
of storage. She goes in there and cries and you know, I got
off one time. I went in with felt to cut this up. So
we go in right and and this is doesn't show a little skin or anything
like that. No, no, no, no, hang on, getting
ahead is right? And we went and they say to me, it's an
empty courtroom, but it's big. And the guy says to me, you
can sit in the back row, but you can't talk, you know,
to your wife, right, okay, So they bring her down. She's
at one table, and then the prosecutor was a cop is at another table,
and there's like a judge magistating how what do you want it? So
I can't really hear them, you know, but I see the cop like
all of a sudden, he's running around. He's looking through Yeah, and
he finds the blocks of clinics and puts it in front of low. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. It took about thirty seconds after that and I'll slow
down. Yeah, so it worked for me. Yeah, I don't know
about you. I don't know, you look good an orange there switches.
So the best one I got out of just real quick. Go ahead on
the motorcycle, going like an animal and four lane traffic. The guy shoots
through three lanes to hit me going in the opposite direction. Really yeah huh,
and catches me doing like ninety and the thirty and I forget he hasn't
he got nothing. So I I pulled right over like, yeah, sure,
what do you got? And he and with the ticket for ninety and
thirty and nine and a thirty. Right, So he says, you know,
blah blah blah blah blah, give me the hard time. So I
said, all right, well, you know, where's the court. I'm
gonna go fight this in court and everything, so are you. I was
in Methuin, oh okay, okay, on the low large boulevard, which
is you know, I think they want to let you out of there.
So anyway, I go to the see the magistrate and with it that was
it was. It was like you're in the court house, you get down
this little stairway to nowhere, and you're go in this little tiny office which
you know, was the size of this studio, nothing fancy, and I
sit down with the guy's a big overweight guy, and he's like he looks
at me, he goes, yeah, you're gonna defend against this, Well
come on, and I'm like, well, you know the judge last,
and I'm like, look, he was shooting through three lanes of traffic and
medium traffic according to the cop and he hits a motorcycle through that. I'm
like, come on, that's ridiculous. He's like, no, no,
I think this is gonna have to go to a judge. So I said,
all right, look, could you do me a favor. He's like,
you know what's that? I said, I lost my copy of the
ticket. Could you make me as could you see a rock staff for me?
So I have a copy, and he says yeah, sure. So
he gets up and he walks right outside the door and right three feet away
from the doors the xerox machine. He puts my ticket in, closes the
top, hits the button, comes walking back in and hits hands me the
copy. Yes, he never took the original out of the machine. Yes.
So we talked for a couple more minutes and then he goes down.
He starts looking through the draw and go okay, thank you very much.
He goes all right, I'll see about scheduling the thing. I walk out.
I opened the thing, I grabbed the ticket out of the machine,
closed the door, and I walk out. Never heard boom again. Yes,
how much you put that in a book? Wow? Wow, Okay,
that's cool man. I mean, you know you take him to we
get him, you know, you know there's no UFOs involved. When I
got out of college, the five thousand dollars where a pocket ticket, Yeah,
from pocketing in front of Emerson Film School for two years and they would
it was crazy they did it. They kind of catcher you know. I
ain't never paid. And then I had to moved back to the state and
uh ye know, I've relative called a friend and with the push of a
button and like a bottle of sigmams, they were gone, you know,
which would have been a lot because I would have had to retake my driver's
license or stuff like that. So no one wanted that anyway. So anyway,
somebody, somehow, all your tickets got expunged. Yes, yeah,
Hall the pocket disappeared or they were somebody put them down and never found them
again something. Yeah, they put them down. They fell on the floor
and they would never found. They went underneath something. And when they take
the corner start of the building, this guy was I'm sure I haven't involved.
It is probably onto the Great Beyond, but this guy was the next
motorcycle cop kind of in our area, and he worked for the registry and
then he got in an accident, so he was desk duty, you know,
so you know how things were going back then you know someone knows someone
and uh yeah, it literally took a bottle of chevice push they put at
his mother's house and everything was cool. So thank you wherever you are off
anyway, I'll tell you what, why don't we do? Why don't we
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Very quickly, the posty girls famous one one is a very famous Sorry,
fellow girls. Hello, everybody, welcome to the show. It should be
fun tonight putting there with us the state of the end, because there's always
a punchline towards the end, isn't there there? We hope? So no
Coco tonight. I'll save in the planet. I'll have a switch blade.
Steve Waters, Yeah, national correspondent down there in West Virginia, switching?
Thank you? Does that thing talk? I'm locked up in his house.
I want to fly to the light. Anyway, we we're waiting to switch.
Raven Good a good friend up there in sideways and yeah, Raven,
how are you tonight? Hello, my friends, I'm doing great. Thanks
for having me. How's the head? He had them? Now? It
looks kind of mysterious, especially it's super dark in this room tonight for some
reason. But there's a there's a little little bun up here. Yeah,
you know that is what it is. How's lonely Larry these days? I
haven't talked to them. Let me think when was the last time I saw
him? I think it was a few weeks ago. We went to there's
a coffee shop that opened up up up the roadaways and uh, you know
that was interesting. Yeah, and we want to a bookstore and then a
little brewery and then they got, uh, what's the chicken things that people
get? Chicken chicken dinners? Chicken chicken dinnis okay and mister Raven got chicken
dinners. Okay? You meantime I saw him. Hm. He sent me
a T shirt. I still haven't been able to figure out. It says
on it a great day but not now? What does it? Didn't have
any day? What that means a great day? Gave one to mister Raven?
Is it I had? I had a great day, but today wasn't
it? Or something something like that? Yeah, something like that. Yeah,
okay, is it a bright like it's very bright? Yes, exactly,
very bright? Meon Kellor, right, Okay. So I haven't responded
to him because I don't want to reward that kind of behavior. Frankly,
he has always let h meil me like really crazy stuff, like a really
nicely framed picture of ra and Hatch, who was some politician from Utah.
I don't I just don't get the humor in the me because he as he
reached out questioning the shirt. No, no, I'll have to get no
non gonna strong strong arm you against yourself right knowing him. Yes, I
still have the case I me and Cotton once with five dimes taped on it,
and that was it I'm supposed to get. Is that a joke?
It's a pretty up the wrong person. I don't know. All right,
here's Switchy, Hey, switch what you what you do? Go eat another
ball with Captain Crunch's not there? That wasn't the punch line. We've been
Switchy. Yeah, we've been on the f of five minutes. Sabra,
what do you have? Another? Kevi? Another ball of the Crunch?
I know we thought you thought the Mothman did something nefarious with you because he
was standing there. Yeah, while you were going No, actually I control
them a man, And if I haven't take care of my enemies these days,
does he control you? But so, anyway, we're gonna talk about
AI tonight, Artificial intelligence. Greg Massell is going to be joining us in
a little while. I've mentioned before that you know, usually read two or
three AI stories during the week. A lot of them are kind of boring,
and can tell that some of them A duck and Donuts story. Did
you just did I send that to you. We shouldn't steve that Duncan domats.
Now look at this is really Dunkin Donuts. Was did you hear the
news? A sham operation the last out of twenty years. But yeah,
yeah, yeah, but aren't they ever? And here's here's another thing.
Enough is in that story night so Duncan knows that everyone knows it. But
they used to have really great homemade dumas. Now they're frozen, processed.
It's like it's horrible. But the latest is they're gonna start selling alcoholic Duncan
doughnuts, cans of stuff. Yeah, the coffee bruising, coffee bruise and
booze and do that. When I worked their way way way way way back
in the day, they had the cool adas. They were like the fruit
one. Yes, yes, on a late night we would just you know,
put a little rum and put it in a coolata and mix it up
and have a nice little, you know, blast, groovy little time.
Yeah yeah, yeah. What was the one that was kind of like coffee?
It was kind of chocolatey coffee. I had one and as much caffeine
and I felt like I was blasting off of the moon. So if you
put a little like espresso. Yeah like that. Yeah, it was like
but almost like a milkshake. It literally was a milkshank. So that's the
cool at. I don't know if they're still called that. I haven't worked
there in quite some time. But it's all like sugar, so it's all
that it is. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, to get
you high as hell. And and now they're gonna start selling booze in this
it's so far weak called duncan spiked or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
duncans how Yeah, the drive too's gonna be mobbed with drunk people.
But the coffee stout type of thing. Yeah, no, no, it's
in cans and bottles, cans and bottles, but you you will be able
to buy it at your local DD. So I don't know they're like,
now they're gonna be like a bar or something crazy. It's stupid. Yeah,
that's all the dunkin Donuts needs. I can tell you some horror stories
the night. Tell us to hear some of those, Yeah, tell it's
fine. I used to be a big fan of Duck and Donuts me too.
I used to drive cross not cross country, but a cross many states
on one trip just for fun. Yeah, and I always wanted to see
if I could kid every Dunk and Donuts on the map on my on my
travels either. They were like three in one town that crazy one time when
she was with me in one of these trips. And you take dunk and
trips, you just had a coffee five minutes ago. That's why it needs
another one. Switch you know what we're talking about. And yeah, you
know, Okay, so they're done. They were every now I'm assuming right,
it's what I named after a guy named Duncan. By the way,
No, that's sounding. I went down to Huntington, yes to go see
a movie last night, and I saw Duncan Donuts down there. I don't
see too many around. Yeah. I actually saw the latest Tom Cruise movie,
Impossible really all right, just just just just the Grade A through D
A really. Yeah. They said it's not as bad as the old,
older ones. Yeah, they said it's not it's not that bad, right
it was? I think it was. I can remember the name of it.
Mission Impossible ethan Ghost Hawaiian or something like that. It's only part one.
I mean it was a super long flick, so now part two might
be like a day and a half when it comes out, it's a pot
one. Really, it's a two part one. Yeah. They had several
uh sort of cliffhangers, unresolved parts, and I kept waiting. I kept
thinking, Okay, here's where they could have the cliffhanger. Nope, number
five ten and it's here's where they're gonna have the cliffhanger. Another half hour.
Man, I thought I was gonna, you know, hit my second
retirement by the time, so was the was a theater crowded? No?
No, okay, because that's you know, CRUI night in the middle of
nowhere. Okay, it's not in the middle of nowhere, but it's been
out for a while, you know nothing. It's called Dead Reckoning part one.
That's it, right, that's it right, And he's two coming out.
I have no idea. He probably doesn't even know the tooth but doesn't
even go off. There's those those stunts he does himself, which is insane
because they're on YouTube and they're showing them. Doesn't even go off a cliff
or something, the parasites like double seven. Yeah, but that's that's gonna
be something that's gonna be cgi or you know, the person that is expendable.
They got. They got a trailer out showing how they challenge how they
did it, and it looks like Tom was it was, it was.
It was a great flick. I mean, you know, you're just going
for the action, the car chase. It isn't the the mcguffin is kind
of uh, it's kind of interesting, you know, but it's just in
the backdrop, and you know, every a while you get a little bit
of dialogue. They kind of explain a few things, and then there's more
chase, of more beatings, more more bad guys and good guys fighting.
I mean, some of the early ones that just incomprehensible. The plot is
just the first one. Listen. I actually it's just I'm surprise and I
went to go see another mission impossible. I hated the first one. They
made Jim Phelps a bad guy, and I thought, you bastards, and
so I wouldn't. I didn't, didn't didn't go to any of them for
decades. Okay, Well, huh, Jim Felps was a good guy on
the show, right, Yes, yep, it was the boss? Was
that? Oh that's right? Okay? Was that Peter Graves or Peter Graves
and there was somebody else too. There was a switch shop for the first
The first season was Stephen Hill. Stephen Hill from Lauren Orta. Yep,
uh so uh letting Nimoy was on that show twice as long as he was
on Star Track. Is that right? So he was on that show four
years. I don't know. I didn't want. I mean, I watched
the show every once in a while, but I didn't he came off,
he went on when Martin Landoine came off Brobervaane number her. Sure, Oh
yeah, anyway, it looks like I guess to see us. Why don't
we take our commiscial break now and we'll be right back. Let me say
one thing about Dead Wrecking Okay two Yes, comes out June twenty twenty four,
barring any delays from those strikes. It must be shot. It must
have shot one long movie at once, which is smart, and then you
cut it in half. Did you see Top Gun two switchy? Yeah,
excellent, It's almost a perfect film. Don't say that. Why did I
have to drive down there around? Not doesn't get all excited to go see
a Tom Cruise film normally, but this is uh mac a is a The
thing is what it is. Reality is reality, and I am an objective
reporter here. Okay, yeah, take that, Mac said the person with
the mouth man shower curtain behind him. Oh that's right. I just destroy
the illusion. I'm the guy that controls moth Man to take care of my
enemies. Really, okay, she's gonna there's gonna be some retribution back that
Top Gun movie. That Top Gun movie is on MGM Plus or whatever it's
which is part of one of the cable packages I have, and it's on
all the time. ELL's wife his wife, and I'll come home, like
probably tonight, I'll come home, she'll be from the show and she'll be
halfway through watching Top Gun again and she's watched it six seven times minimum.
And I'm like, okay, if you're like, God, bless her,
you know, I mean about that you want, don't get into that.
That's the dog. She just likes the movie. I don't know. I
mean when she when she latches onto something, she just you know, Okay,
we're getting close to the Christmas season. Get We're gonna get ones where
you know, I love the ones where Santa is on a bender, you
know, and again, just say Christmas or you know, get him off
the cocaine again. Cocaine are stop Billy Bob Thornton and this one too.
What else is he doing? All right, let's let me do this.
He need I used to walk around with what's her name's blood around his Yeah,
he had a violin. Yeah. He always looked like an looked like
he was not healthy. He's disgusting. Loved him. He's great in Goliath.
You gotta watch Goliath if you haven't seen it. Goliath is David and
Goliath. He plays Goliath. Oh, this is a it's a Billy Bob
Thornton is a X big shot in the big shot law firm. Oh okay,
So he's a little bit down and out. He's gonna got to climb
up the ladder in the weirdest way possible. Okay, cool? Remember sling
blades? Sway? Yeah? Really switch flight? Right? Why don't you
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you tonight, very quickly, girls, very famous one one is here.
Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the show. Also, girls, Coco
is not here, but girls, it's witch Lah. Steve Wood is here,
a national correspondent down there in West Virginia. Read to be here tonight,
Mac. We're are the cats, so I can yell at them.
Well, I loking to be sure or sleeping? Four people work or sleep
or eat. Four people on the screens that are looking around for their cats.
That's that's good. When I'm in the studio, Bran cat side here
four and a half. Also with oh that voice you're head is out,
Ronaldo, you a full mechanic amercallo everyone and get away. And my cat's
on here, okay. So and also with us is a good friend up
there in Sideways and York, still kind of bunded by the Canadian smoke.
Raven is with us Rave, Hello, my friends, thank you for having
me. I don't know where my cat is. That's good so it's probably
lurking. Do you just like Indians now because they've been bugging you with her?
No? I don't know. Move up to Canada. It's too hot
here. I need to go. I don't. I don't like the heap.
I can't tolerate it at all. I need to live in a little
icicle. Wow. And you'll live enough upstate New York. And you have
saying climate change is making it warmer? Is that what you're saying? That
is a really good hot take. Let's put it that way. That is
a hot take. Uh, we have a guest tonight. They introduce everyone,
great astall Great? How you doing video game design? And producer?
Man on the way up to be back here? Don And uh, you're
in Challotte right kind of? Uh a little east. I'm actually closer to
Raleigh, Okay. And when does college football stopped down there? Or is
that already stopped? And I already know they're doing uh scrimmages. But last
week of August, I think right around August thirty first, I think funny
enough State, NC State, who's nearby opens up against Yukon. Really yeah,
so everything is it just nuts there? Every Saturday? I mean just
in that area. It's gonna be. There's so many colleges down there that
play it is. It is college basketball country. But slowly, especially with
all of the realignment, I think the football fans you're getting a little more
rabid. We don't really know what's going to happen to the ACC in five
ten years because Florida State wants out. UNC is trying to flex their muscles
now, so we'll see. But yeah, it's a bit big college sports
down not to speak sports, but isn't like the Pac ten down to like
t or something like that. Read that the other day they're losing you are
for however many? Yeah, yeah, well it's got to be about money.
But I can't figure it out. You know, you've seen those football
stadiums. It's it's a it's a football team with a college education on the
side, you know, and and and no what it is and no nothing
to the NFL. They literally have their minor leagues paid for right. They
don't have to pay for those guys, which is amazing. Anyway, we're
not talking about spots, so just give us a thumbnail version what you do?
Correct? Yeah, of course I know it's changed over time. I'm
over at a company called Insomnia Games. I am an outsourcing project manager with
them. I'm currently working on the Spider Man two game, something out this
October. So right now I kind of manage the day to day with our
outsourcers as well as our internal teams to make sure assets and pipelines come in
on time for the game. Huh. So, so last time you were
on you couldn't tell us when the game was coming out. But now you've
let it slip. It's coming out, correct, because now that the world,
now that the world knows, I ken say commercial swing around YouTube?
Really? Yeah, so so we have that released hip. How many years
in development was this? Would you say? I can't really reveal when it
started, but it's been multiple years. I've only been on the project a
year. I've only been with the company. Come I'm coming up on my
one year actually mid September. Okay. It's been a long, long,
long production process, so more than a motion picture, because a movie usually
takes about a year and you know a few months, you know. Okay,
So, so is the payoff going to be? Do you know what
I mean? Bigger than a new Spider Man movie coming out? Well,
we're trying to Uh, we are definitely trying to get in the running for
Game of the Year insomniax spider Man. Games before before Peter Parker one,
The Miles Morales one received very well, very popular. This is definitely the
largest game I've ever worked on. There is a lot of hype and popularity
around it. So yeah, obviously, you know, you know, personally
to myself and my many co workers obviously were hoping it is that has that
impact, that success that will obviously help us all out. But yeah,
we know we have some big time competition this year in the games industry,
so we're we're hoping, uh, everyone's expectations are met and more. Yeah
right, huh So so what what is your target audience? What age is
your target audience? So do you know is it it? Does it?
Is it? Is it? All ages? Uh? A bit all ages?
You know the game obviously, uh, there is violence in it,
not like Gore or anything like that, but your kind of typical comic book
kind of like PG PG thirteen violence as well. But because Spider Man is
such a large, just gigantic property and the first games where people really enjoyed
our unique starting Insomnia, unique story on it. You know, they're hope
hoping that we can kind of capture that magic further, especially now, as
you'll see in the trailer, we've introduced Venom, who's a very very popular
character. So folks seeing that and our take on that will be very interesting.
So so I kind of believe Just one last question about this is I
kind of believe that there's going to be close contact between you and Marvel,
your company and Marvel, right, I mean, everyone has to give thumbs
up on it, right, yep. Well, Insomniac is also we're owned
by Sony, and Sony does own that Spider Man property. Now that being
said, that does have a saying. I know it's a Spider Man,
it's it's unique too at the moment, whereas Disney owns kind of the rest
of the Marvel properties. But you know, the two companies work, Uh,
they have a you know, good relationship now with how they want Spider
Man portrayed. So there might be some things we'll need to do, and
especially if there's any kind of usage, but they've been a great partner and
they've seen the success that Insomnia has done with the first two games. Do
you think Spider Man is bigger than Superman. Popularity was Oh tough. I
think it depends on the medium. I think in games absolutely. Unfortunately,
Superman has had awful video games for the Coortstall time in the n sixty four
Days back then, where he had a terrible, terrible game comics, I
guess it depends on who he asks. I know Marvel and DC have very
strong opinions. Yeah, you know, depending on which way you fall.
There was it. Another realm did a nice take where they had the fighting
game in Justice I think Mortal Kombat meets DC comics, but that had Spider
Man as an antagonist because he pretty much lost faith in humanity, but he
still had, you know that, So there were kind of those sides,
and he has spoilers. Batman was, of course on the other side.
You know, Supergirl came back and they had a really interesting take on it.
But saying the game space definitely spider Man. Yeah. The others,
well, the movies. I hate to say it. I think I hate
to say it because I love Spider Man, but for any DC fan boys,
yeah, Spider Man's kind of been holding that down in theaters, both
animation, Yeah, yeah, DC. I don't know why. I mean
it was, you know, bragging, quarreling about Christopher Nolan filling uh Oppenheim.
But he felt he filled those bad Batman Superman fighting each of the movies,
right, didn't they? I mean, come on this thing, No,
that that was Snyder had at least Justice League. Now, no one
had the was it Batman Begins, the one with the Joker, and the
third one? So no one's kind of in his own universe there. But
none of those movies were any good though. See that's what that's what always
bugs me in my mind, because I really Begins was good. We're talking
about Nolan's Batman were good. Ones after that with Ben Affleck as Batman were
well? All right? Which one was mister Freeze? Donold? And I'm
going way way back? Right? Oh man, that goes way back?
Yeah, yeah, that wasn't I don't think it was Tim Burton, but
I know Tim Burton was the I think that eighty eight one, but I
know that one wasn't too great either. But don't you think I mean,
it's funny that that that Spider Man has has lasted as long because he's a
kid, you know what I mean, or if you know what I mean,
like I mean I read him when I was a kid, But of
all those comics, he's the one who kind of survived, you know,
He's the one who people you know, keep you know, falling in love
with. Let's you know, especially Hollywood, well well especially too with what
they've done with Miles Morales. The whole appeal is anyone can be behind the
Mask and Spider Verse with all these different versions. Now it's not just Peter
Parker anymore. And you know, they had a Spider Man India who's extremely
popular, and they have Spider Gwen, who's instead this time it's Gwen Stacy
is Spider Woman stuff. There's just a lot and it's not just a slap
this person's name and they're the new Spider Man or Spider Woman. They actually
have unique, fleshed out backstories. Looks everyone kind of has their pick of
like oh, actually, like this universe is Spider Man. Yeah. Yeah,
it's definitely found ways to innovate. That's amazing. So anyway, so
you know, we wanted to talk to you. It's not about AI,
Okay, official intelligence. It's very just quickly you know, every once in
a while, are we a story about AI during the week and it just
seems to me, and I probably saw this view before, it just seems
to me like it's one big fa q, you know, the accumulation of
human knowledge that's just going to be spit back to you when you ask them
a certain question. It doesn't think for itself, doesn't Well, you're also
looking at it as just stuff like a chat GPT or mid journey from the
art side, because obviously AI in general, you know, we had computer
languages, we have things yet we've used some game engines and movies and all
that. But the ones that are kind of talking back, like the chat
GPT or any kind of those chatbots, they are you know, developed as
far as we know. They're not self aware yet. Obviously there were some
stories I know last year of someone kind of getting a horrifying response from them.
Right yeah, but that language and it is getting you know, it
is being programmed by someone or a team. So we have to keep in
mind with these technologies, even if they may not become self aware, obviously
there is a team or an individual that has programmed in a certain way.
Because we all have our biases or opinions on something, so okay, you
can kind of come up there. But when you ask AI a question,
Okay, you mentioned it was a chatbot or whatever it was. I asked,
I went in there once and get you. They gave me three different
answers. So you asked them a question and the answer comes. I mean,
that isn't a bunch of people sitting there saying send that answer to him.
It's going to be some kind of algorithm, right, that says,
Okay, these are the three best answers a question. But it's it's it's
only because you know, I keep saying this, because all that accumulated knowledge
is out there, and and and it's able to kind of pull in stuff
to answer a question. Yep, and yeah, and we've seen that just
you know, think about even just using a search engine with Google, just
able to get those results instantaneously. In this case, it's talking back to
you. I remember, I think last I spoke to you, I quickly
asked it, hey, write me a synopsis for a wingman novel? Right,
yeah, but but it interpreted as a wingman, like a wingman to
a club or a party, like yeah, yeah, the guy who goes
around with his friend. Yeah right, yeah, Okay, that was great,
but make sure one one is in A two that he's having amorous adventures
alongside his being a wingman sideman. There you go, okay, a wingman
wing man? How about that? So and have it? Have it on
my desk by tomorrow, and all of a sudden the printer will go off
and have it if I log on probably the next five minutes. Don't say
that it's a nightmare. I mean, Alexa is already given us information and
she's and my Alexa woke up already just by mentioning her name. But it
gives your stuff in a in a microsecond. Okay, yeah, that is.
That is fascinating that, I mean, Alexa is a fascinating thing when
you think about it. You know it is you just say the name of
a song into it and boom and there's the song. I mean, I
think of how that has to how many channels that has to go through to
come back to you, and it's almost instantaneous. But anyways, so so
so great. So all about indexing. How how data is index I remember
when I worked for EMC in the old days, back in the nineties,
where you have to create these indexes to point to certain data structures and then
pull it together. Now it's like, well beyond well, be we'll beyond
that of more about index CODs, so so so great. So what what
is the idea then? What started the idea of that these things would that
AI, the great AI would stop thinking you know, for itself, you
know, I mean there has been instances and like you say that first and
last year I got this really kind of weird response, and then someone at
the UN asked our robot you know, would robots have a take over the
world in the road would just kind of game the side eye? I think,
come on, So you know, what's this idea that this is because
there's so much knowl is there at some point that's gonna coalesced or something whatever.
I think it depends. I think some you know, we just see
technology advance. I mean, you know, what's where we are with like
kind of zoom and video chatting all over across the world. So I think
sometimes the intentions are, hey, what if we have this technology and we
can just have this conversation with artificial intelligence or have it do something more engineer.
I think the issue comes in where some folks maybe use it for exploitation,
and like I said, we all have our biases, but you know,
we see it with somebody our ai. We you know, we don't
know they're pulling these images or these mix of images from. But are they
the artists being compensated? Did they say their art could be used? And
that's obviously caused a lot of issues. Also what they call deep fakes,
where you know the images aren't real, but they just say, you know,
put something together where allies or enemies of a country are seen together.
And that can obviously, as as we've seen, it just takes one person
who maybe didn't do all their research, just spreads it to their millions of
followers and it goes like wildfire. Yeah, right before anyone can think twice
you know there's consequences then should But do you think that in five years?
I mean, you see these deep fakes now and you look at them and
you say, well, yeah to the kind of casual observe that could be,
you know. But but because if you look at it closely you can
kind of tell. But in five years you're not gonna be able to tell.
No, I don't think so. And it's honestly gotten better recently.
You look at when I think mid journey unfort unfortunately went putting mid Journey on
the Map, Painting one, and a digital art competition but in twenty twenty
two. But they just kept generating different ideas until they finally went with one
and the winner to their credits like, I just went within your rules and
obviously they didn't make it. They asked the program to make it. Yeah,
whereas his arguments like, well, they have their tools like photoshop or
others to make theirs. I just I just kind of skipped the line,
but there were no rules stating I couldn't do that. Yeah, right,
so a I won them. Well that is a little scary. I can
see that, you know, I could see someone using that to their disadvanta
to I would disadvantage. But then you see folks like try to copycat that.
And then like in my industry, for example, how people think like,
oh, in that case, you can just like, really, we
can just automate and build an entire video game that way. And and while
yes we'd have some maybe some automation processes that can make it all come together,
where it misses with a lot of that is just that copy written work.
It's easy, especially like in a modern community, they've taken a completed
game, for example, and they've they've been able to modify it, fix
it, maybe put their own spin to do some improvement. Sure, but
that's after kind of years and years of development. There isn't a I think
a lot of where that falls in. It's just people think that there's just
a make video game button and there's just lazy developers, which is just not
true at all. I got to say that I see it as a big
career move for a lot of lawyers, and it's a few specializes in licensing
and copyrights. Yeah, it's the future, you know, I mean,
this is what's going to be. Al Is used to work for a company
that when you would see like these back end when the Red Slash started winning,
there would be these huge panoramic views of Fenway Park, right and uh
and it was a very popular company, and you really whatever it is,
right, but why don't you tell us how he used to Well, you
know there were times early AI you know the stuff where you know, the
guy take the picture and the picture didn't come out as perfect as he liked
because someone stood up in front of him, or someone did something and made
a gesture or something, and you know, so once in a lifetime picture
you can't go back and reproduce some of these sports moments. They happened,
then they're gone. So you know, we had to go in and kind
of touch him up a bit to fix some of this stuff. And this
is like and it just goes back, you know. But they take people
out of the photogrount, right, Yeah, take someone away, give it
a little bit bit. But but you used to they would say, cut
out that guy because he has a funny hat. On that guy, because
he's raising a beer and so on, right, things like they were blocking
a view. Yeah, but also blocking him. You actually recreated as if
Ted Williams was on the on the field right with people around themselves. They
did a lot of work on stuff like that is fake right there. It
never happened yet company sold they sold a bunch of them. Wow, but
you know that was That's what it was, you know, And yeah,
that's a long story that. But what I wanted to go on to here
is I saw an article probably within the past week where they were saying that
in India they've started using AI to generate sportscasters and news presenters on TV and
they said there at this point there's still a little choppy. But for the
casual observer, there's someone delivering the news who's not real and in five years
and they said, yeah, this is just the beginning. So like,
if you have a career in broadcasting, is a you know, newscaster or
a whether man or they said, don't count on it for long. But
but see this is what bothers me Thoughways say, how many newscasters are there
in the world. When you think about it, it's you know, on
TV, is if five thousand, ten thousand, you know, they seemed
to be fewer and fewer over time. I know, but what why do
you have to you know, why do you have to take their jobs?
Why don't you take figures? They're expensive? Well that's true, yeah,
that's you know, they're they're the face. And if there's a scandal or
if they do something stupid or they get pregnant, got to go away for
a while, or you know they do uh, you know they if you
have the AI person, they don't say the wrong thing, they don't trip
up a word, and they don't get to pay them a lot, right,
but it's a script fact check. Maybe they can be president. They
listen, Rember Don KSh President, Don christ that doesn't fall down the stairs.
Yeah, that doesn't try to take over the country either. Don Krishner
used to put on The Monkeys. Okay, basically the Monkeys. I'm really
dating myself now, but you are dating itself. They were the Beatles,
you know, you know by the mox Brothers. Basically they put them on
TV and big show. It was only only for two years, but it's
big because they were also had hits on the radio. So after two years,
the Monkeys, who didn't play their instruments on the record, that's how
everyone found out about the Wrecking Crow, started to demand that they write their
own songs, and they wanted to play their own instruments, and they wanted
royalties and all the stuff, and Don Christians said, you know what,
forget it, and he fired them and he started The Achies. Okay,
so the Achies was a cartoon, but they also had hits on the top
ten and everything. And at the end, sorry an interview when they says,
cartoons don't talk back, Okay, they don't make demands, right,
So if you can, if you can create something in AI which is either
a cartoon or a movie, or a fake person singing or whether or a
fake actress. You know, if you can do it, you're home free.
You know, if you can create a Simpsons character voiceover person and that
out of the job, right, Yep, yep, that getting like how
much per episode? Bazillion dollars per episode? Yeah, I can say so,
Greg is AI sha is it? Is it cheap? Is it inexpensive?
You know what I mean? Yeah, I wouldn't say it's uh,
well, inexpensive. Kind of what you're deferring to how they're trying to replace,
you know, humans with their jobs. Where we even just kind of
see it with some of the writer shrink going on and uh not all but
like you know, maybe some companies are trying to say, like, okay,
could we use AI to the fear for a lot of the actors striking,
especially the ones that's famous. I was going to ask for us that
they were looking at AI to uh do background characters rather than hire a bunch
of extras. Just get the program and we'll just generate a bunch of generic
looking people. We don't need to pay this person's you stand in the background.
We just need to pay our stars or maybe just a couple stars at
that point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, there was that
fear with that where just you know, unfortunately everything is a business, and
yeah, with whether it is kind of something like that that that should you
know, worries some folks, should upset some folks, I feel, because
again, some people get their starts that way, and it's just you know,
unfortunate that. I think there was a good use at first, but
a lot of it and of course what the news is getting is a lot
a lot of it's being overshadowed with what's the negativity? How are people exploiting
it? And those are like you know, the stories we're hearing in the
things we're seeing as well. It does definitely have a negative connotation lately.
Okay, it's always AI. He's gonna take over, Yeah, he's gonna
kills it. Never really talks about how AI could be just this wonderful thing,
you know. I mean, sure we can be, but people are
afraid of it. People are getting afraid of it, I think. Yeah,
and that's what I was referring to, Like, you know, we
have you know, we have AI. We've had chatbots since the Aol instant
messenger days, where it could have at umeric response back. It's just kind
of getting to this scale where I think we're just highlighting the people trying to
exploit it a lot more. They're looking for the quick the quick buck.
Like I said, someone thinking they can just AI generate an entire video game
and that's how they'll make millions billions of dollars, or how they can just
make an entire animated movie or a book, write a book. But we'll
we'll well, and a book was written. But then, you know,
I'd love it that some of the drawings just looked very rude, Yeah,
strange, So you know it could get to that point, but you know,
there's a there's that reason to like, you know, you're you know,
you're an author yourself, but not not everyone can be a writer.
I would love the AI AI should be focused in on defluent projects like saving
human kinds. But how can you do that? Maybe regenerating Charlie Watts,
that'd be fun. So before we have to take a break though, just
you know, the story has been around that the Beatles are going to raven.
The Beatles are pop girl from the sixties and seventies. They're going to
release one last song and it's like something they found in John Lennon's general top
draw and they have an AI recreate his voice, are Polish's voice, let's
say. And I think it's a mistake. I think it's a big mistake
because you can't recreate a Beatle's record, you know what I mean? You
just you just you can make something sound like it. And that's what this
is going to be. And it's just gonna be the first of many,
believe me, and not the first many Beatles stuff, but it's gonna be
the first elvis everyone. It's gonna be in a guig. What do you
think, Well, like you said, you know, it can't. Yes,
it can replicate the song, but the moments people talk about it's like,
well we were there, you know, that moment of being there live
and seeing them perform on location and a venue. Sure someone could go in
and recreate it, but it's not the same. You know, it's still
just a copy just because you can't really you can't. You can't mimic that
emotion with the crowd with you and everyone kind of like seeing that unique moment.
It can be you know, it can be copied. You can watch
it back on video, but yeah, I agree. It's it's unfortunate that
that's what they would decide to do since that's not capturing uh what he was?
Yeah? Right, yeah for sure. Well listen, we're gonna take
a break, thank you, Greg, We're going to clap you off.
Hey, how about how about AI in sports betting? Not that we would
know anything about that, but oh, I'm sure there's already bots in place
for that, whether it's Draft Kings, van duel or uh not so legally
after all, it's not it's not legal here in North Carolina, but I
am I am positive there it's already some bots in that that firing off really
yeah yeah, even like you know, setting the lines doesn't Isn't that how
kind of Vegas just sees. It's not like you know, one person they
take it from, just kind of millions of possibilities, That's how they said
it. Isn't it so eerie? How they're always so probably over and unders
right, It's it's like bookies have time machines. How do they how do
they do it? How do they do it? But they do it every
time? It seems read. So whatever, Greg, thanks for joining us,
We really appreciate it. Shout out to Sarah and Ali. Happy birthday,
Ali, Congratulations three years old. Appreciate it, Thank you very much.
Okay, all right, we'll talk to you soon. Okay, yeah,
and uh so, well, why don't we take a break right now?
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One of the reasons is he's the girls going across the puddle MS one
one, Hello girls, Hell everybody, welcome back to the show. It's
been a fun one so far. I'm glad to be here. Let me
ask you this, Yeah, how many times a day do you think about
Lily James? At least once a day do you really, you know not,
maybe not more often than that than this once a day. Yeah,
how many times do you do you probably think about Nancy Wilson the other times,
the other part of the day, the other twenty three? How many
times do you think about Princy Andrew who? Yeh, the perfect ends anyway,
No, couco. Tonight someone sent me a thing to the seven.
He said that he might be training Chinese pilots. Did you? Did you
say that? One? Someone said that anyway, it could be more kind
to believe you're training right, Well, I no, no, you never
know what he's in. But National Correspondent switchblades, deeva waters heyes, switchy
and it is great to be here tonight. Would you have a train Chinese
pilots? Ye? Well, uh, if these were Chinese communists and our
enemies, they would want me to train them. Let's put it that way.
Okay, all right, that's a little obtuse, but sounds good.
That's that Captain Country talking. So listen. So is it still Captain c
ap apostrophe? N Now all right, alas googling it, I will look
for you, okay, all right, So anyway, while we're looking that
up, favorite good Witch up there and sideways and young Raven is with us.
Raven, Hi, my friends, thank you for having me. But
the glass is really the glasses. You know, we all get classes on
tonight, but you look the battles I need them to see. So I
mean, I guess it doesn't matter how I love. Have you ever got
THEMB Have we get contact lenses a different color than you're realize? No,
I don't like that. I saw someone wants a woman. She had the
brightest greenest eyes in the world, and I was like, there's no way
in the world. Yeah, it's unnatural looking. Yeah, it just doesn't
look It just looks weird anyway. Also with us is and Will not that
we're an aldull go full mechanic. Hi, Mac and yes it is cap
and cap with an apostrophe and really crunch. That's number one. Number two.
I do wear contacts occasionally because I'm lazy. But I went walked into
a police station one time to report the gates to the Amtrak weren't working because
some somebody was got clipped by a train. I walk into the I walk
into the police station and there's a lady sitting behind the desk and go hi,
listen, I want to tell you, just let you guys know that
the tracks on Boshton Road, things just going up and down, going crazy,
no train. And she stopped and looked at me and goes, are
you wearing contact lensers anyway? Yeah? Why? Because I've never seen eyes
that color before? Right? So she ended up going calling other people come
out and look, and I like, I didn't realize it was the color
that she was. I thought she thought I was trashed. Is this has
just led to coming on to you? No? No, no, no,
no, no, you have to wait to hear my story. Okay,
Ravens, catch Friday is here. Here we go. Okay, look
at that. I don't want to start a trend. So Al had to
drop his car off at a mechanics once this is how and I have to
drive him over and we drive over to this place. It's out in the
middle of nowhere and there's like a motorcycle gang well running the flight. It
was I had dropped off a motorcycle wheel to have a tire balance. Okay,
so Mac brought me to go get it. I drop him off,
and you know, I want this to go quick. I got stuff to
do. It, and I'm sitting out there for like two minutes, five
minutes, ten minutes, fifteen minutes, going what could they be talking about
it? It's a tire fix it? Okay? He comes out and he
gets in the kind of goes. Those guys wouldn't stop talking to me.
One of them said, I had the nicest eyes in the world, honest
to God, Honest to God. We were sitting there and it's a I
hate to say it, it's a Harley shop, and I only like,
so, first of all, I'm in alien territory here. So I go
in and I'm asking, you know, for the tire, and one of
the weirdos, one of the big fat slobs sitting there, looks at me
and goes, you have beautiful eyes, and you know, like, how
do you respond to that from this big Harley biker? And I started hearing
the deliverance banjo's in the background and Max right there, like in the car,
right upside the door. And as soon as he hears it, I
see the window going up on the passage side of the car and I get
the door's lock, and I'm like, wow, he no, but then
yeah, So then he finally gets in the car. He's all I'm on
twisted Google eyes from this and then like an Alia says, hey, you're
driving me back. I'm packing around the walk there though, you and your
buddy, So you didn't say you have beautiful eyes? No, no,
we'd still be there. I'm telling you. Of all the things the guy
could have said to me, like you drive junk or a rice burner,
anything of that sort, I would have been totally expecting. But when this
guy looked at me and said that, he was like this big overweight Harley
guy drinking a beer a bud look at me, and I was like,
oh my god, what do I say to that? What do you I
mean, I'm trying to ignore it and talk to the owner of the shop,
thank you, And and I'm looking out there because I'm like, if
I bet I can beat the guy to the car, because I'm he's too
fat to run, not if Mac is already taken. I see the window
going up, and I was like, keep up with me. I'm in
troubling. Wow. Wow, yeah, yeah, I forgot about that was
funny anyway. Uh wow, if that stays in, it'll be a miracle.
Switchy Switchy has a repun I introduced everyone, right, I think the
Harley guys. Listen, Captain Friends, he called his friend general and they
get that changed. They should tell it Captain Crunch and he was in the
Navy, not the coach. Good. Okay, we're gonna remember that.
So switch, you have a report for us tonight? Yes, I do.
Okay, let's put in your on the Grinning Man. Oh, let's
put it. Let's put the bumper in h what's that? Let's put the
bumper in here. Okay, I think I think I can hear it off
in the distance. And now it's time for another story from the Lost Animals
of the Paranormal. It's time for Steve Ward's report from the Fringe. What
do they have for us? Now? The Grinning Man? The source of
this is a chapter and one of John Keel's earlier books, and this book
is under two titles. A bit. I want to talk about this book
just a little bit. If people are interested in getting into John Key,
this is one of the books I recommend to plunge into first. The original
title was Strange Creatures from Time and Space had a magnificent Frank for Zetta painting
on the cover. It has been reprinted since then in more recent years,
and it's called The Complete Guide to Mysterious Beings and more of a trade paper
size. The cover isn't anywhere near as cool as the original. And the
thing is this is this is where John Keel starts talking about window areas and
trying to come to grips with why these sort of creatures out of the Phantom
Menagerie just sort of show up and then melt away. And also it covers
all kinds of you know, wing creatures, different types of bigfoot creatures.
He had a chapter an earlier chapter on the Mothman, just a whole variety.
So it's a really good place to kind of get your feet wet.
If you jump right into the Mothman prophecies, that's like crazy town. I
mean, that's when he was in the midst of all this stuff. It's
kind of issue into that. Yep. That's the first book I read was
The Mothman Prophety. So it was like bum oh, here we go.
You got you gotta read that one. But you know, this will help
you get into but also you may not want to start with Operation Trojan Horse.
That's almost like a textbook partly that really gets into the nuts and bolts
of how these things work and come together. Okay, the grinning man,
and this is one of these things where you know, possible patterns show up.
It's October nineteen sixty six. A bright light the size of an automobile.
It nearly clips the five hundred and fifty ft tall TV tower just outside
Pompton Lakes, New Jersey. This was the site of the DuPont Explosives factory.
A police officer and his wife they saw the object move away and vanish
over the nearby hills. On the other side of the hills, there were
two other patrolmen, Thompson and Western. They saw the same light at about
ninety five. The light was so bright that it's temporarily blinded Thompson and he
really didn't get his vision back for about twenty minutes. Now it's impossible to
say whether this particular incident is connected to this next one, but it occurred
about the same time period, about forty miles away north of one A.
Queue and Elizabeth, New Jersey, on the same night, October eleventh,
at about the same time the UFO encounter. Now, Elizabeth, New Jersey
also had a wave of UFO sightings in the past week. Two young boys,
James Chitas and Martin Munmo mon now mobile, Okay, there you go,
we'll just call him James and Martin. How's that. They were on
their way home on Fourth Street when their path took them to the edge of
the New Jersey Turnpike. Now, this is a spot where, I mean,
there's a big fence there. You can't really get up to the turnpike.
It's just it's elevated at this point and with a very steep incline.
And so from the busiest thoroughfare down to Fourth Street, it was that it
was very hard to get down there, and you can't. It's very hard
to get through this high wire fence. So they one of them, one
of the boys, said they saw the strangest man they'd ever ever seen in
their life. And it was under the bright lights, bright street lights.
Just wasn't not in the shadows. And he James saw him first, and
he said he was behind the tall fence. They couldn't figure out how he
would have gotten there he was. He said he was the biggest man he
had ever seen. And so he nudged his buddy. His buddy turned around
and he said, he just looked at us, and then he said he
grinned a big old grin. Now, this guy is over six feet tall.
And in a few days later, John Keel and James Moseley of Saucerno
and Chuck McCann, who had his own TV show in the New York area,
they arrived to question these boys and they separated them, spent some time
talking to them, and they got more details of the incident. And McCain
mcmccann rather, it was about six foot two, and the boy said,
this thing was taller than him and much broader, and he was wearing some
kind of green garment that shimmered and reflected the street lights. He wore a
wide black belt around his waist. He had a very dark complexion, little
round eyes, kind of beady eyes, they said, and they were kind
of set far apart. Now, they didn't really notice any other details like
ears or nose. They didn't really see his hands or his feet. He
was standing in kind of a tall grass on the other side of the fence.
Now, there were incidents of violence in that area, so they didn't
linger. They just got the hell out of there as quickly as they could,
away from the creepy grinning man. So Keel and the other guy,
and Mosely and so forth, wondering, well, how the heck to this
guy easily get behind this fence, and if he was a truck driver that
broke down, how did he even get down this steep embankment to this area
just didn't really make sense. And the boy said that this entity is whatever
it was seemed to be staring at a particular house, and that that seemed
to be what it had fixated on. Now, the grinning man theme continues
at other encounters, and there are some similarities in some deviations. So of
course John Keel mentions injury cold. Now we've heard, We've talked about injured
cold many times. This character allegedly showed up about November second. This is
before. This is November sixty six. This is just a couple of weeks
before the first wave of mothman sightings took place in Point Pleasant, West Virginia
and the Ohio Valley. And this was Woodrow Dearrenberger was appliant salesman and he
was driving south on Route seventy seven claimed he saw this elongated spaceship sort of
shaped like an old fashioned kerosene chimney lamp and it kind of nunged him over
it landed by his truck. This guy stepped out, and he had this
dark complexion, wearing some kind of a shimmering like garment. Now he looked
a little more like some of the oh, I don't know, some of
the men in Black, the out of Men and Black Lord. He had
a dark complexion and so forth. He didn't really have the beady eyes of
the white set eyes of this other character. But he had this wide grin
on his face. And he carried on this pointless conversation with Rodo Darrenberger,
talking about how he came from a country much less powerful than us, and
asked what the lights were in the distance, which of course was Parkersburg.
So in so many of these encounters we have the the mind denumberingly boring conversation
that really doesn't advance anything. There were a couple other incidents, of course,
darren Burger claimed he had more contacts with mister Cold. But there was
something that happened just before this. Two men were traveling down the same highway
seventy seven. They reported a very similar incident. This is before Darren Burger
went public and was interviewed by the police on television and he h actually don't
think he was interviewed. He was interviewed by the police, but then he
was interviewed separately on television and it made headlines in the area. But these
other two guys, they didn't claim that this gentleman called himself injury cold.
It was the same kind of thing. They had, kind of a pointless
conversation. This guy had a grin on his face and the conversation ended and
they took off. At first they were going to come forward and u and
then then and again. This is before Darrenburger came out, and they said
that, okay, we're you know, I decided not to not to do
it. We just don't want to come forward with this. It was just
two weird. He actually went to Mary Higher, John Keel's friend and colleague,
first and he said, you know that scientist fella said that we should
just forget about it. And John Keele said, signed as fellow. What
scientist fellow? And he said, well, you know, he seemed to
know what he was talking about. And he said, well, how did
he find out about your sighting? And he said, damned if I know,
because the only people he had told were Mary Higher and John Keel.
And then a few months later there was another woman across the river in Galipolis,
on a farm. She was coming she was a nurse, she was
coming out of her where she worked in the parking light. Late one night,
she sees another one of these crafts that come down and two men step
out, very similar to Indrid and the other one, and she's she's frozen
in place, she can't move, and they talk about another I'd have another
conversation with this poor lady, and it doesn't really make a whole lot of
sense. I mean, if we're dealing with entities from other worlds, boy,
these guys are duller than dumber, and what is the what did they
what's the what's the reason that they're so kind of dumb? We don't know,
I mean, we don't know what we're really dealing with here. Keel
thought that some of these might be not not hallucinations, but illusory. It
may not be real physical incidents. However, the next day, this poor
lady's walking in downtown gallipolists and she sees these two guys in street clothes and
one of them nods to her like, oh yeah, remember when we were
talking to you the other night. This poor lady freaked out. She was
also having bizarre st She was having cattle mutilations on her farm. They were
seeing these big box car like craft flying over her farm. Typical haunting phenomena.
It's very bizarre and then it just goes on. I mean, during
the Lily family on Camp Connley Road. Camp Connley was kind of the southern
border of the infamous T and T where the Mautheim was seen initially and many
times. And they said the young lady Linda was the young girl. One
of Keel's standard questions was, have you ever had a dream that somebody was
in the house with you and they looked at it looked at her daughter.
She did, she had a dream where she saw this apparition. She should
be sure it wasn't a dream of this man in a dark suit with a
wide grin on his face, in the kind of an apparition that appeared and
then disappeared. And in this particular case, this man also seemed to be
wearing a checkered shirt. This is another bizarre pattern that shows up in so
many of these cases. The man with a checker shirt, warning man one
mom has a check shirt. He seemed to have some similar themes behind him.
And again, forgive me for bringing up Keel again, but if he
was onto something about some of these things being manifestations, trans moderifications of energy
or whatever, perhaps the same so is manifesting these things and they just come
out a little differently sometimes, but some of the same archetypes, the underlying
archetypes are still there. The grinning man, the man with the checkered shirts.
So good. No, I was just gonna say, like, to
me, what this My first thought was that there was some TV shows not
on anymore. Wasn't really that good. But it's about an alien that lands
here and he has to kind of adapt to uh, you know, to
to being a human, let's say, and he's a little bit robotic,
and he doesn't quite know what to say. And that's what kind of is
like, you know, you hear about these things people having meaningless conversations.
It's kind of like, well, this is what I've been trained to say,
you know, I mean, they don't do you know what I mean?
Like if you go to a foreign country, he would say that they
a lot of times they would use expressions that were way out of date,
wearing clothing that didn't match up. And sometimes they would have cars that black
Cadillacts or whatever that looked like old cars, but inside they were perfectly new
and shiny and smelt like a like a new car. What what what is
that? What could that possibly be? You know, I don't know,
And it does make me wonder if some of these things are maybe not completely
physical experiences but something. I mean, you can go back to uh An
Jeffreys in the sixteen hundreds, who had these incredible encounters with the little people,
with the elementals with and had all these detailed stories, but she never
left her room, she never left her house. And then there was the
woman Helene in the what was the book the From India to the Planet Mars.
There was a say, a psychiatrist at had this woman put or under
hypnosis where she talked about this past life on Mars, and uh, you
know, she had all these detailed experiences, but I don't think she was
ever actually on the planet Mars. How do we but how do we know
that these people just as the kids say, not, well, the patterns
a show up, uh, you know, the the checker shirt, the
grinny man, the same type of bedroom apparitions, the the way these in
quotes men in black look like. Sometimes even even the poor old Joe Symington,
you know, when he got those pancakes from outer space okay, yeah,
in return for some water, he said, yeah, they look like
kind of like swarthy its aliens. Wow, whoa yeah? Else of Silians.
Even it was maybe maybe there's a secret space program and you know,
the treat or something. Yeah, you know that's funny because it makes you
think for a second, Like, you know, we say this a lot
on the show. It's like it's kind of like the universe next door isn't
quite you know what I mean, It's not just quite the same. The
fact is is that if someone sees a grinny man here and someone sees him,
you know, one hundred miles away, and they don't have no contact
with each other, you've got something going there, you know. And that's
the true men and black. So people will see men in black and they
always describe in a certain way. And these people don't necessarily have ever heard
of men in black before. So something is going on. People whatever people
seeing, they seeing the same things that's the weird thing about it, right,
It does seem to be something beyond mirror, nuts and bolts and flesh
and blood. There's a real high strangious aspect that suggests we're dealing with we
may not be dealing with aliens from Elpha Centuria. Yeah right, yeah,
very strange. So what are we looking at looking at another dimension situation?
I mean, we seem to throw that out pretty loosely perhaps, But at
Keel he used the term ultra terrestrial, which he borrowed from his friend and
colleague Ivan Sanderson, just as kind of a literary device. But he also
used ultra terrestrial very often interchangeably with elemental, and I think that might be
apropos You know, when I think about some of these bizarre experiences, how
different are they from encounters with the little people, the elementals, when you
had missing time back one hundred or two hundred years ago, when you had
encounters with the Leprechns or the Pixies or whatever, And uh, you know,
if there's so many other parallels there, so I think maybe we go
back to John Keel's admonition that these are simply natural conditions of the planet just
and we just yeah, I kind of understand. This is just you know,
what happens. It happens every once in a while, you know,
what happens to some people, not everybody. It's just you know, it's
like a hover game, it's like the weather. This is just one of
the things that happened here. And sometimes it really, I mean, it
really focuses on people. A friend of his got so you know, obsessed
and nuts with this. He was. He had a gun with him all
the time, hiding his apartment, waiting for the men in black to come
and get him. Well, and then he started to see alligators coming out
of his false with antenna and with it they were there. Turned on the
water in the bathtub and there's an alligator that pours out with antenna. Lay
off the coach. He even took a shot at somebody, but he thought
was in a black Cadillac and thought was a man in black in the dark
suit at the door, and it was a friend of his. He didn't
kill him, okay, but but he had some things he had to That
woman on the airplane, The woman on the airplane has now rebranded herself as
the crazy Woman on the Airplane, and she has her thing. Now she
you know, she's she's branded. She's going to be interviewed. She's gonna
talk about how she saw someone who's a reptile at the at the back of
the plane. She's turned it into she's turned lemonade, you know, lemons
into lemonade. They were looking for I guess they found her or she came
forward, some agent or something fun her. She's saying, you know,
that thing was in the back of the plane and its eyes blinked sideways,
not up and down. Yep. And she said, that's not human.
And I'm getting off this plane right now, and you people can stay here
and die with it. Imagine this, I'm getting off now. Forty feet
above. Things were near that airplane, by the way, I mean they
did, you know they did? Yeah, yeah, you know. I
mean, but I guess the big delay was getting her luggage off because they're
gonna go sifting through everything in the bottom of the plane because they will not
let the luggage fly without They were backing away from the tournament. Oh okay,
all right, she was. She did it right right on the ground,
okay. And then they said, okay, you're you're gone, you're
out. Get an air Marshall get her odd, yeah, do that.
I hate flying. I'd do anything to get off the plane. That's what
she was doing. If you start screaming about her reptile on the back of
the plane, Hey, look wear for her. I hope someone's filming it
like that because it would be preceless, Like, how can I get banned
for life? Well, she just did it, so I'm going to do
that next time. Oh I can't fly. Sorry, No, it's more
like how many likes can I get on Facebook or Instagram? Come on and
listen. How about the woman who not going to recent events? But she
said she saw a kid along the highway and she pulled over and she's calling
the cops, and the cops found she's not there. She says, I've
been kidnapped. She shows up like four days later looking okay, and then
they searched her computer and it looks she's been you know, she's been searching
for how do I, you know, kidnap myself? Well, you know,
it's the best way to kidnap someone. But now she should be the
well she was gone her you know, people look at her and then and
they gave publicity photos of her walking at Times Square and she's near the Statue
of Liberty. And now she's done the same thing, but she's become this
kind of minus celebrity and she's getting interviewed, and you know she'll get it,
she'll get a fine or something. And she said she was kidnapped by
his wife, and his wife they forced her to undress and they did all
kinds of things to her. Is the movie. And then she finally got
a way of her own free will clothed this time, and walk back to
her house. There you go, Okay, it rights itself. Come on,
But it's just funny people out. You don't know how like an internet
search history works or likes like when someone kills let's get AI on this.
Yeah yeah, it's like when someone kills kills, kills someone in the family,
and then they do the check of their yeah, google searches. How
do I poison someone? How do I how do I clean up a crime
scene? How do I know? It's like the first thing they say is
go to one, go to Walmart, duct go or something good. Go
to Walmart and get picked up on the TV camera. You know, buying
buying home can shovel on something, lie you know. But the thing is,
you think you'd go to Nord VPN and sort of do a VPN,
so there's no tracing it. I don't know. I don't know what you're
talking about. It's about the duct No, No, just the Nord VPN
sort of shields where you come, where you're from, and a lot of
people do that with sports. Now, well, I'm surprised you don't know
that. Let's talk later, so listen. So while it's time to wrap
up very quickly, please excuse me. Linda Scarberry one of the first witnesses
of the Mothman. They had apparitions of men and black in her in the
house. I mean she also they also saw them on the street, but
this one showed up and freaked them out and then disappeared. She was also
experiencing poltergeist phenomena after she saw the moth mat all kinds of bizarre things going
on in her house when it had never happened before. You were hearing strange
beeping noises outside the house and strange phone calls with garbled voices and static,
so something very strange. What's going on? Yeah, yeah, I think
the whole idea of someone in your house is a very very scary thing,
you know what I mean. I mean, as a kid, I used
to have dreams about stuff like that, and I know that you know people
that breaks people out. That's a I was going to commit to you.
How some of the night you hear them, you don't know what to do
as I've shoot them, right, But I think that's an in a few
that a lot of people have. That's you know, this is already a
disturbing story case with like the grinning alone that like you know, is very
unsettling. The thing that gets me is the dreams, because you're you're not
supposed to see people that, like, you don't know in your dreams,
like you you had to have they had you had to have seen them before
in real life in order for them to manifest in a dreamed bess. Yeah
that makes sense. Yep. I never thought of that. So it's it's
weird if like these are just like willy nilly showing up in someone's dream for
like no reason because your brain can't think of that. You're sleep like,
it doesn't it's not allowed to do that. Yeah, I've never heard of
that. Very very doesn't car You're up an image that you've never seen something
else, rightly take from Yeah, it can only take from the stored memories
that you have. So it's like that's why a lot of the time people
will dream of like their family and friends because that's so Yes, yeah,
I dream of Susan Harvey back in the second grade and I still do.
But yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've never thought of that before.
So if you see someone in your dream that, let's say you don't recognize
or it's the first time you've ever seen this face and something's really out of
control there, or something's going on right, Yeah, and you know,
we should really do like an episode on like dreaming and like lucid dreaming,
because that's a whole other like rabbit hole to go down. But yeah,
you're you're only you're like, it's you'll never see something that like you you
someone that you don't know, like it might even if it's somebody that you
saw like in passing. Yeah, like it's still somebody you physically seen,
because that's what your brain can register. Wow, I don't know who do
that. That's crazy. Yeah, I have dreams and I'll get up in
the middle of the night to you know, take a squizz or whatever,
and then I'll just go back to sleep and they'll pick up the dream again.
You can do that, do that. Yeah, I don't ever remember
dreams. I wake up in the morning, I don't remember anything. I'm
I think I'm lucky because I don't remember in color? What's this deal about?
You don't usually dream in color. I've dreamt in color. I've deaf,
but it might have been in color. And if you like. Sometimes
and I'm having a dream, I'll someone will write something don and I just
try like crazy to see what it is, as if there's some secret they're
going to give me in my dream, but I can never read it,
you know what I mean? Something I'll you know that maybe it's a lottery
number, something like that, and the talking Hustle in the future comes in
and everything. I'm but I mean, if Keith Richards can dream about a
riff that becomes a number one hit, sock, Yeah, right, you
got to be able to dream up some lottery Now he does that all the
time. But Jack, you're saying, mister Red talks to you. Oh,
he said, are talking horse? What did you say? Talking loss
from the future. Someone always says, yeah, we have a punched the
script up. I'm just bringing a talking hosts from the future. Well,
mister Red could come in and just mister Reed. Oh Wilburn. But Keith
Riches does that all the time. Do you know what I mean? That's
he's he's kind of like dreaming about work in a way. You know.
I can see that, and and I think that's why I dream the way
I do. I think that you dream. If someone one said, it's
like it's defragging your your memory, you know, it's it's like getting alma.
That's a good term for it. Yeah, and you have to do
that. Yeah, and never have this one. I've had dreams where it's
you know, it's like a Netflix series, you know, part one really
yeah, a pot a pot Okay, it may not it may not be
as jointed, it may not pick up where you left off, but it's
sort of like a overlaps. Yeah, yes, we characters, maybe a
different subplot or something and something weird. It's like a lately I don't know,
it's because of old age what I've been dreaming about. Watch I knew
in high school. Yeah, that's old age. Hey, listen, remember
there was a guy that we used to have on and the Do you remember
that guy we used to have on early in the show. He was some
New York He's a futurist. He had a very kind of hip name.
Anyway, he told us that the Japman this is good. Five years ago,
the Japanese were working on this thing where you would be able to wear
this kind of headgear at night and in the morning your dreams would be animated.
You'd have a little cartoon of your dreams. Okay, that's scared.
Maybe there isn't something. Yeah, but that was that's coming down the line.
There was a movie about a guy who could come into your dreams.
Yeah, Freddy, No, it wasn't like not a horror thing. He
was more he could come in and interact in your dreams. But like they
did it with the president or something because he was having these nightmares and so
they put this guy near him so when he fell asleep, the guy could
go in and enter the dream and kind of manipulate it. So it wasn't
such a big deal or a big a problem. I forget what it was
called, but it was kind of interesting because these people had the ability in
theory to enter your dreams, into your dreams and actually interact with you and
the change the outcome. I could see a business there, they get virtual
reality. Just think my dreams. Maybe, so listen, why don't we
do that was my dream? Why don't we wrap up the show? Switch
already has the train. I couldn't think of the right word. It's such
a cool train record. I can really you what they used to do.
You what they used to do back in the West. And the pictures of
this is that they'd have a canival and on the last day they'd get to
trains to steam locomotives to hit each other, you know, to just you
know, kind of demolish each other. And I think they used to beat
up at the start of the demolition Derby Attorney. Yeah, the beginning of
it was there was a train new report that did that. Yeah. I
also read today that there was this tan and Nevada back in the Old West,
and they would take the train through it and it's just like this sleepy
old place, and people said, hey, listen, why don't we spice
this up? So they paid the Indians Native Americans And there's a caval unit
nearby, so anytime the train would go buy that have this fake battle,
you know, so the people on the train would say, wow, we
saw that movie. Give me re enactors are real? No, they were
real, they were real. They had nothing to do, they were friends.
So it was like, f trewe why don't we do this? Why
don't we say? Yeah? Thank you Greg Massow for joining us tonight,
educating us on AI a little bit. I think it's gonna I think it's
gonna be one of these things. So it's gonna do great things, and
then it's going to be kind of out of control. The hot stock chip
about how it can see. People are always going to try to manipulate it.
That's the thing, you know. If there's a dollar to be made,
someone will find the one corrupted to make money for them. So thank
you to Greg Switchy, thank you switch You would cap the trunch. What's
next week? Can you give us a preview on food? Yeah? I'm
shooting from the hip kid, Are you really? Oh? Oh yeah?
The new switching You haven't had any antiments donuts for a while, don't say
that, no, no, but but they're available here and I have them
once in a while. Day. What kind what would it cost just to
package up and send buttman's don't it's about ninety nine bucks. Theyre pal laughs.
Try and find out just the laughs. I sent over a little buttons
to people in England cost me like about eighty seven dollars. Okay, so
it's crazy, it's nuts. If you sent it slow boat, they'd be
still by the time they cut there. That's true. And we get it's
got to go through customs, right, yeah, they'll Raven, what what
kind of damnats did you get? I love doughnuts, so I picked out
I really like glaze, so I got some glaze and I got a blueberry
jelly filled with the Yeah good. I got it from my local Wegmans because
greet So we went first thing in the morning on Sunday. M Yeah,
yeah, yeah, you're killing me, Raven. No, I'm sorry.
Vision chips for days over there, so we're we're supposed to be. It's
notting tomorrow. So anyway, thank you one one. I'm going to save
the best guys want thanks you join as we'll talk to you soon. You're
welcome, my pleasure. I'm happy to do it, And Raven said,
at the time of the night, we have staked by to you. You've
made us so hungry, so much for having me, thank you for joining
us, and I just want to thank everyone else for listening. Let me
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And I think that's it. Gang. Oh. I just want to
say that we have a contest going for a mashup of Scrabble and Monopoly,
courtesy Philip Baines, who was the past president of Winning Moves that makes all
the kind of games that we grew up with and we have to and the
secret is for the first a bunch of people to write to us and tell
us what the name of Raven's drink was last week. We're going to pretend
she was drinking again this week and we'll pick your name out of the magic
fish bowl. So do you remember the name of the drink that you were
drinking right now? Right? Yeah? So last week I was drinking the
Baywatch. This week I had hot black coffee. Hot black coffee. Okay,
Okay, let's say Baywatch is the secret word. Okay, So just
write to us at Wingman and macloney dot com, hit the contact button and
tell us Baywatch and you'll get into the magic fish bowl for a The Winning
for Eyes is a mash up a game that they put together which is based
on Scrabble and also Monopoly, and someone looks it up the other day it's
like worth eighty bucks. So oh, Usa, only sorry, and you
know, we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks. So,
Raven, thank you very much for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank
you so much. Okay, we'd like your cat the best. By the
way, Gray, do you hear that he's sitting right here? Yeah?
Sorry, Oh, there's the ASPCA calling me. Well, so why don't
we hang on a second? This could be important? What this is live
radio? Yes? Hello? Hi, yes, speaker, Yes, I
am yes macloni. Yes, good. How are you hire? Yah?
H hm yes, yes? Where are you? Where you located? Where
are you located? Bull? Are you married? Are you? Are you
married? Yeah? How long? How long have you been married? For
him? Whoever's on the other line? Hung up? Five years? Interesting?
Okay, go ahead, please come on please huh backed, I don't
have to long. Could you hang on for one second. I'll be right
back. Okay, thank you. Prove a speaker phone No, I can
barely understand her. If you record somebody about their permission right off from Someone
got mc maloney's private phone number and has been calling me to promote the book.
Yeah. It's been really kind of nuts. Can you block phone numbers?
Sure? Yeah, okay, but how they got my number is my
private numbers in private, you know what I mean. It's kind of weird.
So anyway we've got that inadvertently or not in whatnot? Not the cell
numbers. Nope, I don't give it, you know, I don't think
even think I have it. Yeah, yeah, it's anyway. Why don't
we end the show on that. It's the damn cat. Thank you the
cat. It's one of those cats. Thanks for busting and until next time
you hear us, this is back for the entire gang, saying be safe,
be happy, and bye bye