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Hey, Grady's, thanks so much
for joining us this week for another episode

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of Grave Girls Podcast. As always, it's me your host Hathorn, and

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me Amus. I'm a little sick, so sorry for all the sniffles you're

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gonna hear him. My voice sounds
kind of stupid. So I have a

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cat who's going through heat and she
just like screams every day until six in

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the morning. We have to go
to work, she's quiet. I come

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home, she started screaming again.
My heater was broken for the last two

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weeks, and I know I live
in Las Vegas, but it still gets

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fucking freezing in the wintertime. So
I finally a fixed today. Thank god,

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finally, dude, I die.
I was so cold, I felt

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like I was in the catacombs in
Paris. And speaking of our movie this

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week is as above, so below, dupe, that was the worst thing

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you do? What the fuck do
you think it was not cold? That

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was so like like cheesy old TV
shows, how to talk about the stupid

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products. Don't forget your Harry Potter
themed Sorcerer's Stone to bring with you when

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you do visit the Paris gotta gone. I'm getting all that out. No,

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keep it all look at even go
into like fucking puberty. Void boy,

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Oh my god, I sound awful. I'm sorry. Oh I'm not.

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I am amorillas, guys, I
just I sound like a twelve year

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old boy going through puberty. This
is actually just an actor I hired from

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Craigslist who I was like, oh, you know on my show, you

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don't, Oh well, act like
you do. Our movie this week is

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as above, so below, as
above, so below. It's an action

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horror movie about a girl named Scarlett
who was on a quest to find the

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Sorcerer's Stone okay, the Philosopher's Stone. Her journey leads her into the Catacombs

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under France. Her journey leads her
to the Catacombs under France when she and

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a misfit group of explorers go underground
to find the treasure. Instead, they

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get trapped in literal hell. The
only way out is down bum bum bum.

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So what did you think about the
movie? I liked it, but

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I did not like the way it
was filmed. I hate movies like that.

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Yeah, but besides that, I
liked it. It was It wasn't

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really scary. It was interesting to
watch. It keeps its pace really well.

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It gets exciting. That's why we
call it an action horror because there's

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like a lot of action, but
also there's like demons and monsters and someone

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getting her head literally bashed in while
you see it and you hear a crunch,

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you know this hello real? Oh
oh? But yeah, I liked

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it about you. I really liked
the movie. I watched her twice,

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you know, like I usually do. I liked that even though I don't

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like when movies are filmed like that. It wasn't very shaky. It at

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least kept still. Yeah, it
was done well. I just don't like

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the style. Yeah, it was
done really well for that style, which

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I also don't like. I thought
the music choices were good and creepy,

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and I just wish that they explained
a little bit more about Benji's past or

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whatever was haunting him, which we'll
get to. We watched it on Netflix.

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It's on there right now, so
hopefully it's still never by the time

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you go to check it out.
I don't want to be a liar.

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If not, I'm sure it's somewhere, but you know pirate stuff online like

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good old Amaist. Buy it at
Savers on DVD. It's probably there.

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Oh it is that Saves on DVD. Go to every single Savers and be

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like I heard on Great Bril's podcast, So you have this DVD. Are

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you saying they're a liar? Yep? Okay. So the movie starts out

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where we see the main character,
her name is Scarlett, and she is

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going to Iran. So Scarlet heads
to Iran to Elie eagerly explore a historical

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cave system that was going to be
destroyed. Literally as they're about to turn

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the switch on the dynamite, she
finds like a little hole that looks like

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it's hollow or whatever, and she
smashes that shit. She crawls in and

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there it is the Rose Key.
It kind of looks like a little bull,

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kind of an animal, and it
has like carvings all over it,

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and she is scanning it with her
like little GoPro to take stills and everything.

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So that she can use this to
decipher the thing, which was really

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really smart because you'd literally just need
pictures of it of like anything. She's

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just like, I don't care.
This is on the wall. It's important.

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This one's on this wall. This
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as long as it's on camera somewhere, you can posit it. It'll be

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at a weird frame sometimes, what
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of flip it. You know,
you would deal with it. It would

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be doable. So she gets it. She almost dies though, because the

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cave like almost collapses on her and
she barely gets out. Her guide dies

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though he didn't he someone dies right
in the beginning with her underground, well,

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she sees her dad hanging there and
she's like, what the fuck.

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That's the first time you see that
her dad. But it looks weird because

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we don't know what it is until
later. Oh I didn't even put that

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together to mean. That means she
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what she had to do to discover
the sources stone. Anyway, So she

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gets that, and next we see
her getting like interviewed by a cameraman.

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His name is Benji, and she's
like, oh, come with me.

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We have to go find my friend. And she's showing him her camera with

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all the symbols on it and he's
like, who's gonna be able to decipher

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it? And he's like, I
know a guy. And so they go

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to France and there was like a
big church and they like sneak inside and

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she goes up into the giant like
clock tower and she sees a guy who

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is like, Hella cute though,
yeah, it's Ben Feldman. I love

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him too. He's super cute.
He's like my type, like the nerdy,

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long hair like dork and I'm like, oh, he's so cute anyway.

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Yeah, So she sees Ben Feldman, whose name in the movie is

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George. He's like, I haven't
seen you since Turkey and she's like,

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yeah, sorry, I like left
you to dying jail. Kiss kids,

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can you do this for me?
And he's like okay, because I'm a

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dam idiot. He's like, you're
hot, so I'm gonna do it.

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That's exactly how it said, guys, That's one hundred percent how it happened,

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word for word. So then she's
like, I need to see Nicholas

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Wamel's tombstone, like after hours and
he's like okay, and I'm pretty sure

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that was like the girl who was
sleeping with it was that just me?

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Yeah, that was a good a
girlfriend, his like literal girlfriend, because

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he's like, oh, like oh, given up the eyes into it and

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he lets him in after hours to
get her she could be fired and they

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get to the tombstone and like they're
taking video of it, and it kind

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of reminded me of that stupid scene
a national treasurer. We're like keep the

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lemon on the back of the Declaration
of independence with the q TA yeah and

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the air. Yeah, so she
had to use um lime and another chemical

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instead of lemon. It's lime,
instead of the breath, it's fire.

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It's it's just national treasure. And
it takes place in Paris. It's just

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national treasures, just demons, national
demons. National treasure was in France.

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Are you thinking of the da Vinci
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in our nation of the United States, Declaration of our independence. This is

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our countries thing that's not in France. That was like in Massachusetts and like

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fucking Pennsylvania. Probably sure it is
like national treasure, but it's also like

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the divisi goo where it's not in
America. Yes, okay, So she's

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getting filmed by Benji and they know
that they need to find someone who can

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read the tablet thing. She gets
bend. They put the lime and the

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salt and the coconut and mix them
both up and lights it on fire,

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and they're like, oh shit,
look at this. So they took a

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picture of it and they get the
fuck out of there, and then like

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right outside, they're like deciphering it
and he's like, oh, there's a

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star. Star means this moon means
that. I liked all of like the

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little clues and solving it reminded me
of a video game and it was like

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all really believable. Yeah, because
they're like, okay, that looks like

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the actual symbols, I guess.
And then oh, this bird couldn't really

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mean this. We don't fucking know. We have no clue, but I

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believe them. But they figure out
that where they need to go is three

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hundreds seventy point five meters below the
surface, because philosophers believe that the number

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of the devil is like seven forty
one. Cut that in half, boom,

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And then they're like, wait,
but it can't be there. Because

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there's nothing there. And he's like, wait, I'm a nerd, I

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know where this thing happens. There's
a ton of city sunk into the hole.

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And he's like, how can a
city sink if it's flat ground?

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And they're like, that's what we're
saying. But yes, thank you for

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clarifying, Benji. And then they
go on the tour of the catacombs to

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see if maybe they could like sneak
to like the untourist people allowed section the

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restricted area. Yes, they were
looking to get into the restricted area.

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Okay, but this part, who
is that kid? He never pops up

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again. It looks like the kid
who died in the car. Yes,

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I was just gonna say that.
It looks like Pepills or Papillion or Papillion

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whatever, Pepion, Pepions. It
looks like Papion's little brother or friend or

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whoever. We don't know, but
it looks like the boy in the car.

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Yeah, that was him. I
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And then I think that the other
little boy you see, not George's little

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brother, Danny, the first little
boy you see, I think that's Zed's

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Sun that he denies is his.
There was a first little boy. Yeah,

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he has like brown skin and curly
hair, and he kind of looks

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like he has coins on his eyes. It's really weird. I don't remember

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that it shows up for like two
seconds, but yeah, we're getting ahead

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of ourselves. But they decided they
have to go in the catacombs. So

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they're in the catacombs and they're saying
their plan very secretly but loudly because they're

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in a tunnel, so like everyone's
gonna hurt you. And she's like,

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how are we supposed to get to
the restricted area of the catacombs And he's

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like, go to this nightclub,
Pepilla. What's his name again, Pepion.

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Pepion will help you. And she's
like Pepion and then he's like yeah,

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and then they go and they turn
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he's gone, like, how could
he have ran? It was weird you

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just pulled. That night they go
to the nightclub and really strangely, this

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strange looking female locks eyes with Benji
the cameraman in a way that he's creeped

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out, and then she's walking away
and you probably have to watch it again

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to notice this, but in every
frame of the club scene, like she's

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there, yeah, in her like
white dress too, So it's like who

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is she? I don't know.
I think it must have been an ex

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of his or something. Was that
the lady who killed him? Yes,

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that's the lady who kills Benji later? Yes, all the spoilers, all

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of the spoilers. So they finally
find Pap and he's like, what do

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you guys want in the catacombs And
she's like, we're gonna go find treasure

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and he's like, I'm only gonna
do it with me. I'm like,

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like, crew can have half of
the treasure, and she's like you can

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have all the treasure and George is
like, no, no, no,

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you can have half. That should
have told Pap that like something's going on.

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She don't want the treasure that she's
saying us down there in the scary

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ast part of the underground. Yeah, and that's like really deep underground,

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like three hundred almost four hundred feet. Remember at one point they're like a

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thousand feet Like is that even possible? Like what? Yes? Maybe not

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for humans? Yeah, I don't
know how did they even breathe? I

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guess the tunnels the air has to
be going somewhere I don't know. You

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are correct. Hopefully someone's gonna email
us and be like they can breathe because

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of this, and I'd be like, thank you. Yeah, I'm really

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bad at science. Can the biologist
explain this to me? Geologists all of

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the issts not a murderist though.
They get to where the cateacombs start,

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and Pap is like, dude,
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if the cops find us, we're
fucked. And he said that like funny,

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and it was because it's a little
accident. You know, I wouldn't

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have gotten there. I would not
if I saw that little hole you get

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to crawl through like that, Nope, would you do it? No.

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My big fear with things like that, because obviously I'm like thicker, was

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like, what if I can't fit
to the fuck all? I just die?

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Like Benji, he was like football
players, thatcher. He wasn't a

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small guy, and when they had
to go through like the little small,

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small holes like you could see,
He's just like, I'm not gonna fit.

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And that would be my fucking worry
because that hole, the first hole

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the go down, is like small. How the fuck do you even fit

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in? The remember the episode of
Zoom and the guy's like, how do

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you fit your body through a note
card? Let me just stuck in my

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thine. That's what I would try
to do, and I still don't think

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it'd work. So I used to
go splunking. Living in Las Vegas,

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Nevada, there's a lot of like
abandoned mine shafts, and when me and

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my husband were younger and stupid,
it didn't have, you know, lives

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depending on us. We should just
go in these caves and it was so

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scary. You would hear noises just
like they did. No one would be

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in there. Sometimes you would get
like a gust of wind and you're like,

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what the fuck. I'm like,
deep in this cave, how is

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there a gust of wind just on
my face? Like it would be so

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scary. One time I almost fell
in a snake pit. It sounded like

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someone was tagging. So we went
closer, like oh cool, other humans,

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and my dog runs off and the
dog is black right off in the

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distance, and we hear and then
he comes running back to us and we're

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like, what the hell, get
closer and put our flashlight and it's like

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literally a snake bit Jesus. So
this movie really freaked me out because when

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I first watched it, I was
on a pitch black room and I get

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really into movies. I think I
say that like almost every episode. So

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I put myself there mentally like with
them, and it scared me in that

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way. So maybe not the like
the scariest, like traditionally scariest movie,

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but if you really put yourself there
squeezing through those type spaces, every single

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time you go through a door like
closes off, you can't even go back

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the way you came if you wanted
to. You're so far underground, no

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one is ever gonna find you.
Like, It's just it's scary. See

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that's probably why you were more scared
as a movie than I was, because

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I've never gone underground. I'm sucking
sae, I'm weird. They decided to

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go in and Ben Feldman, Okay, George is on the rocks about going

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down there because his brother Danny drowned
in a cave and when he saw his

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brother stuck there like his leg was
pinned by like a rock under the water

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and it was like rising, He's
like, I'll be right back. I'm

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gonna go to our mom and dad, but he was only like five and

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he got lost on the way and
when he finally let his parents there,

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he had drowned waiting for him.
So he felt really guilty. He hated

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going in caves. See, but
it wasn't even his fault, even me,

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it really wasn't his fault. So
before he could even decide if he

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wants to go in or not,
the cops come. They tackle a pap

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everyone rushes in. They have to
run from the cops for a little bit,

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and then they get to this like
one section of the caves catacombs,

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and there's all these witches like singing. Dude, it was so creepy.

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There's just like I don't know twelve
I want to say, because it's a

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witchy number. But just like ladies
with the I don't think winefold on.

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They have like paint on their faces, and they're all wearing white dresses and

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how they have fire Yeah, somehow
their eyes are obscared and they're just like

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really eerily singing and it's so creepy, and there's candles everywhere, like a

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weird off key song. It sounds
like some kind of creepy chant that you

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don't want to even hear, because
you feel like you're gonna get cursed.

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And Papa's just like, yeah,
the weird people come down here, just

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ignore them. So Benji's hanging back
and he turns the camera towards the witches

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and he sees the girl from the
club really sharply turn her head and stare

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at the camera, and we all
know it's her. I still wonder like

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maybe she just sought him out or
I don't know. I hate when movies

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don't explain. Maybe she was just
part of the devil and my big Peace

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explain you fucking min I know,
like this is what you're supposed to.

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So that already gets them unnerved.
And then Papa's like, okay, here

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you go. This is exactly where
we're gonna go. And it's a wall

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of bones and they're like, what
what do you mean? This is?

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This is where we're gonna go.
And Scarlett gets the map and she's like,

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actually put them like her Hermione granger, we have to go here,

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and he's like, actually, we
fucking don't, because I'm the one,

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like who's telling us where to go. And she's like, no, we

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have to go this way, and
he's like, dude, you don't know

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which caves are flooded on that side. You don't know which rooms are you

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know, closed off. You don't
know what she's talking about, Like,

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just listen to me. She's like, no, I'm a strong, independent

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treasure hunter. I know where I'm
gonna go. I've done this before,

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and I'll go without you type of
thing. And he's like, Okay,

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you want to know the real story. We had a friend who like being

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down here and he knew the caves
like the back of his hand. We

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called him the Mole and I remember
his French name Lato. Yeah, but

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he's like we called him Latop and
one day he went down exploring on that

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side of the cave and we never
heard from him again. And it was

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like two years ago. And this
guy was like an expert of the caves,

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like those weird witchy people who obviously
spend a lot of time down there,

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but this guy like ventured in the
depths of Yeah, like he's the

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only reason Pap and Suxi and z
all know roughly where they're going because of

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Mole. He taught them the way
because you could get lost down there forever.

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Yeah, I'm sure hundreds of people
did. The path they took wasn't

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the only path. They made lefts
and rights as they went because of how

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they were being led by pat Would
you have been okay with climbing over all

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of those like skulls and bones into
that tiny little hole that's like this big?

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I am so claustrophobic. I can't
even sleep with things touching me,

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like besides a blanket, I don't
like anything touching me when I sleep.

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I need to feel like free.
And no, I couldn't crawl through those

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bones. Plus they look sharp.
What if you get cut? You're just

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like Benji. They're sharp. There's
gonna be wrapped in there. I would

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have acted exactly like Benji. Yeah, in that moment, I was like,

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I would have just left, been
like, you guys have cameras by

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I'm gonna go get arrested by the
cops and be safe. Yeah. I

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would have been like, the cops
are already gone from there. I bet

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I'm risking it, Like I would
go, oh, you know, let's

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say everyone who's here before we continue
on the movie. So, the main

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character of Scarlet, her friend George. He is ben Feldman, and there's

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Benji cameraman. There's Zed, he's
like their explorer friend. He was the

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like the climber one. He was
good with like the climbing ropey stuff.

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I don't remember the word. Then
there's Suxxie, it's PAP's girlfriend. And

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the sixth and final person is Pap
pat Beyond, who is like the leader

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of this bad day group of explorer
people. So that's all the characters and

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they start climbing over the bones.
Pap goes for Suxxi, Zaid Scarlet,

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even George goes through, and Benji
is a big guy. Like we said,

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he gets stuck between the bones and
the rocks and he starts getting paranoid

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instantly. He's like, okay,
I'm gonna die here. I'm stuck.

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I'm stuck in dude, just back
up, move some bones go through.

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You're gonna be okay. He's like
hyperventilating, and then all of a sudden,

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you hear the witches singing their songs
and it sounds like they're like right

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on top of him. They him
so and he's like, why are they

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screaming? You know long? Where
are they singing so loud? And they're

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like, dude, calm down.
Calm down, dude. Did you think

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that he was gonna get grabbed by
that lady who's wallowing him? Yeah?

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I thought he was dead right then? Yeah, me too. But he

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doesn't. He ends up pushing his
way through, and after all the commotion

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and they get out, they somehow
are exactly where they started and they're like,

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please don't tell me, we just
went in a circle. He's like,

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that's impossible to straight line. Like
you can see it's a straight line.

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There's no way we turned yet there
is the door that he didn't want

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to go in, and she's like, well we have to, and he's

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like, you know, I'm just
telling you it's evil, Like you don't

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know what's evil, what evil is
down here? And let's scout. So

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they go and let's creep me out. Was the water like they got pretty

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high at one point that would scare
me. Sometimes they had to like dive

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under and ship. Oh my god, she gets taken by the things in

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the water, I screamed. And
as they're going through these catacombs, they

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all just start seeing little I don't
know if they're hallucinations or if they're really

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there, but they all see things
from their past, almost all of them

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get explained, except like two of
them, just not Paps and Benji's.

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But right as they go into the
little door that Pep didn't want to go

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into, I don't understand how someone
could have gone through the door before because

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they haven't like break it. Yeah, it was like a stone slab,

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like how But they get to that
side and they see Paps tag mark on

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that side because he tagged everywhere he's
been, and Scarlett looks at him,

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is like, she's like, are
you fucking with us? You've never been

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on this side? Okay, why
is your thing right here? Then?

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And he's like, I swear to
you, I don't know what's happening,

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and this place is evil and we
should leave. It's because everywhere they just

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went is where they like went,
you know what I mean, Like wherever

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he tagged Pap and he even tagged
his own tag at one point, like

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another one in the cave. Now, it's like they're starting all the way

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back over and then even when they
go back, they like go through it

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like again, it's really weird.
George sees a piano down there and he's

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like, that's weird. I had
a piano exactly like this when I was

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a kid, And he's like,
and we only know one song, and

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he plays the song and the same
key is broken, and you can tell

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everyone is like freaked out. Before
they can even respond to that weird thing

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that just happened, they hear a
phone ring and they're like, there shouldn't

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be any phones down here, and
for some reason, Scarlett feels compelled to

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answer it, even though everyone was
telling her not to. And when she

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answers the phone to man's voice and
it said, Scarlet, why didn't you

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answer the phone? And we find
out that Scarlett's dad committed suicide and the

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night he did it, she had
a bunch of missed calls from him and

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she didn't answer the phone. So
she feels like it was her fault.

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Yeah, I mean, I see
why since her fault, and why does

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she feel so guilty? That's why
she has to finish his life's work so

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like he can rest easy, I
guess. So, as they continue through

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the catacombs, they find themselves solving
like riddles, only things like people who

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would know about this would do.
So. As they continue after the telephone,

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a tunnel collapses behind them. They
end up being able to get their

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way out of that, and they
all see Mole and I'm not sure if

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they saw him for real this time
or if he was just a vision because

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they all felt guilty about never actually
looking for him down there, you know,

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yeah, I don't know. But
when they get reunited, he puts

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them on blasts. He's like,
you never even looked for me. You

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didn't even try. They go,
do you know the way out? And

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he responds the only way out is
down? And they're like, what the

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hell are you talking about? Like, how does that make any sense?

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What would you say if someone says
that to you? I would say that

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doesn't make any sense. But it's
hard to follow him, and they're like

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should we be following him? And
even Pap is like, I don't know,

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I don't know if we should trust
him, Like they don't know,

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but they have no other choice.
You can tell that Paple used to like

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trust him with his life, like
obviously they were like super close, but

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if he was like, I don't
know if we should do this because he

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knew it wasn't like the real him. Obviously something was off, but part

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of you wants to be like,
oh, it's just being down here.

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He's just a little traumatized. It's
just a little different. Now. You

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gotta listen to your instincts though,
guys. Yeah, you have to trust

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your instincts man, and don't do
stupid sh like this. When he says

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the only way out is down,
they find themselves at the base of a

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hole that looks to be like three
hundred feet down. They all get their

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ropes ready, they get their little
hardnesses on, and they prepare to repel

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down the rope. Benji's never done
it, and he ends up really wrote

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burning his hands because he wasn't holding
himself correctly. If you've never done it,

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it can be hard to get the
motion down. I go rock climbing

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pretty often, so I would like
now once they get down. After that,

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they're in this really tight tunnel and
they like hear this loud alarm blaring.

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It's kind of strength, sounds like
a trumpet or just some really loud

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sound. And there shouldn't be anything
loud down there. They're supposedly like six

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hundred ft underground now, like there
should be nothing here. That's actually when

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they see little boys now, not
earlier when I said it's now, I

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think I remember that then as they're
walking more following moll. They find a

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door and all of a sudden,
like mole is gone and they're at a

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dead end and they're like, what
the hell And they find out they're in

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another puzzle room and the puzzle has
something to do with which number rock to

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pull, And at first I wanted
to pull five because of something, but

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then I'm like, no, oh, like the numbers of the planets and

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yeah, yeah, yeah, because
I guess back then they consider the moon

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and the sun planets. So they
decided to pull the seventh one and they

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survived. It just reminded me of
when we were little kids and we would

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like solve games. You know,
we didn't have the Internet to look up

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what to do, and we had
to just sit there as little kids and

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figure out these mind altering puzzles.
Dude, we still love puzzle books and

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shit, I think we need to
do an escape room. I think we'd

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be good at it. I feel
like we'd be good at it. When

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you come visit, we'll go in
one. Okay, they get into this

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other room from pulling that, and
they find that the wall says vitriol,

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and like, they skip over it
pretty fast. But when I watched it

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again. It says visit the interior
parts of the Earth and something something something,

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And it's just as kind of like
that's where they are right now.

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They are in the interior parts of
the earth, exploring. Maybe if they

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would have taken some time to like
really decipher these clues, maybe it could

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have turned out a little better.
And the middle of the room is Nicholas

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Flamel's spotting right there, and you
know he supposedly died what like how many

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te years ago? Many he died
along, Yet his body looks like he's

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just asleep on this stone slab.
How can he look like that the rats

404
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.119
would have eaten him, he would
have decomposed. He was like still alive,

405
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:17.200
but he was dead, but like
recently dead. Yeah, Like he

406
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:18.839
didn't look decayed at all. Right, before they came in, that room

407
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:23.160
was a house like and so he
like just died. And she tells them,

408
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.039
I know, there's a good body
in the middle of the room,

409
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.240
but we need to turn off our
headlamps. And they're like no, no,

410
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:30.839
no, but they do it anyways, And then when they do,

411
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.119
there's a little light coming from the
floor. And when they go to the

412
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.920
floor, it's actually water, and
she has to feel around. She dives

413
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:44.200
under and she like pushes down a
like wallowing over loose rocks, and she

414
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.720
decides to swim. Dude, she
didn't know how long that would have gone

415
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:51.839
on. She didn't know how deep
she was going. She's so brave.

416
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:53.960
I couldn't have done that either.
I can't swim if I don't see where

417
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.079
I'm going. Dude, it was
hell scary. And then above that,

418
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.079
they get themselves in like the treasure
room, and didn't they remind you kind

419
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.799
of like a like Aladdin, like
everyone knows not to touch shit. And

420
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:12.599
then there's this like beautifully painted picture
on the wall and she deciphers it as

421
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.920
like the Earth and the Sun used
to be married, and then they had

422
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.440
a baby and it was the moon, and every single day of the moon

423
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:23.559
tears apart the Sun and the Earth
and blah blah blah. And she gets

424
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:29.640
the wanna be Philosopher's stone that looks
exactly like the one in Harry Potter.

425
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.039
It does, and she grabs it
and they pan over and Moles just standing

426
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.599
there staring at them, looking at
the treasure so creepily like he's such a

427
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:42.279
creep but with that stone there,
don't you think that was way too obvious

428
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.480
of it to be the Sorcerer's stone. Yeah, why didn't she think of

429
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.279
that? Because she was so overwhelmed
by like, oh my gosh, this

430
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:53.039
is actually real. Even in her
dad's book it was like that. Drawn

431
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.359
I was like, yo, be
careful too, like, don't be stupid.

432
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.640
But she's like, nope, it
has to be the surreal. It

433
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.200
has to be this easy. Oh
yeah, all right. As she removes

434
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:10.000
the fake Philosopher's Stone, the fake
Philosopher's Stone, Z and Pap are pulling

435
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.160
off the iron bars in front of
all the treasure. She's like, it's

436
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:17.720
a trap. Almost all of them
make it, but Suxie she gets stuck.

437
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.519
They end up being able to move
the rocks to save her. Now

438
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:26.440
they're stuck in the collapsed part.
Everyone's freaking out. Scarlett's like, just

439
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:27.880
look around. There has to be
a clue. He wouldn't have made it

440
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:32.599
so he would just die down here. And on the ceiling, Zed sees

441
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:36.720
the door and she's like, what
does it say. George translates it and

442
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:38.599
it says as above so below,
and she's like, that must be that.

443
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.920
There's a door down here, She
like, moves this rock. It's

444
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:48.839
the door they go through. She
starts telling him about the whole philosophy of

445
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:56.799
alchemy, which was like everything that
is or has been. Remember, they

446
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:02.279
go through the hidden door, and
they find themselves elves at another tunnel,

447
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:07.200
and above the tunnel is marked abandoned
all hope ye who enter here, which

448
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:14.920
is the saying that is also on
the entrance to Hell. And as Scarlett's

449
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.480
about to crawl through it, she
looks back at the camera and she's like,

450
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.160
and they shall be made to crawl
onto their bellies into the darkness.

451
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.319
And it's just, as you know, really creepy for them, because here

452
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.920
they are crawling through this place that's
like labeled as hell like and they're probably

453
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:36.759
as down as they said philosophers think
it's that far down. As they exit

454
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:41.160
the tunnel, they find themselves back
in the treasure room, untouched, and

455
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.599
they're like, what the fuck?
We were just here. When they turned

456
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.240
to go back through the tunnel,
the entrance is gone, and when they

457
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.279
turned back, Mole is standing there. I know this is bad because it's

458
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.119
my favorite part of the movie because
someone dies, But it just it was

459
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.720
so unexpected to me, that's always
our favorite parts of movies too. He's

460
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:06.920
standing there being creepy, and me
and Amarellas both think that Susie used to

461
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.599
be the Mole's girlfriend, but then
when he went missing, she like shacked

462
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:15.400
up with his best friend, Pap, and so she felt really guilty awkward,

463
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.359
and she wanted to comfort him.
And maybe he's acting here because she

464
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.240
saw them together. She doesn't know, but she starts going up to him.

465
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.480
If you were standing there, creepy, I would like get water and

466
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:28.440
splash you in the face. Like
I'm not gonna go and try to touch

467
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.680
you, dude. I would like
to throw a rock. There's so many

468
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:34.519
rocks you're on the ground. Just
get a rock and throw it. Hey

469
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.920
moll hey, hey homie, you
okay, you're right man. You don't

470
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:44.279
ever ever go touch somebody like that
who's like just standing there creepy, because

471
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.400
then this happens. What happens,
Well, I'll tell you what happens.

472
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:51.839
He grabs her by the throat,
throws her in there, smashes her skull

473
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.960
against a fucking rock like five times, and you see that blood just coming

474
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:59.519
out, and it's like face down. It's done, really well, this

475
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:05.519
no boys, it's like unbearable and
everyone's like sexy. They pull out the

476
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:09.720
stone. They try to heal her
with it, but unfortunately it can't bring

477
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:14.880
back the dead. They make really
harsh decision to just leave her there,

478
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:20.400
and they go basically back through every
single thing they've already been through. They

479
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.359
go through the tunnels where they hear
the weird sounds. It's just like a

480
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.279
mirror image of it, which I
think is really cool. They go back

481
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.960
to the room where they had to
pull the seventh stone. They go back

482
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:36.920
over to that water where they had
to swim under. When they are going

483
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.759
back down to repel the three hundred
feet where Benji burned his hands, you

484
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:47.400
can hear someone yells scarlet and it's
like, what the fuck likes someone chasing

485
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:51.920
her or she going towards it,
like, we don't really know. And

486
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:55.160
then Benji is last. If you
knew someone was already bad at repelling the

487
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:58.480
first time, why would you let
them go last? I don't know.

488
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.640
But they let him go last,
and he starts hearing whispering and when he

489
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.640
turns around, he sees the same
witch that's been following him the whole movie,

490
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:13.840
and she pushes him down and he's
dead. Splat. That was like

491
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:17.559
probably the nicest, quickest murder probably
in the whole movie. And it just

492
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.039
sucks because like he didn't want to
go down there in the first place.

493
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.079
He didn't want to do any of
this. He was just like making a

494
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:30.199
documentary. He thought he was cool. And there's like this demon witch lady

495
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.280
chasing him. Yeah, why would
that make him go last? And then

496
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.079
he just like falls, just like
probably over a hundred feet just so.

497
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.519
Then they get to the part where
they had to crawl back over the bones,

498
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.559
and this time George sees Danny drowning
like under the bones and like they're

499
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.920
looking at him like, you know, that's not real. You know it's

500
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.639
not hot. And then they get
to another side of the tunnels and they

501
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:59.719
hear yelling and they decided to follow
it because they're crazy, and then you

502
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:04.400
start hearing screams, and coming from
the screams, you hear a fire crackling.

503
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:09.880
There's like a car on fire.
And it doesn't really explain throughout the

504
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:15.400
movie, you see that they're getting
like haunted by like their guilts, you

505
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.679
know, what they're guilty for,
and this is like PAP's guilty thing,

506
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.480
but it doesn't explain what it was. There was the kid who first told

507
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.519
Scarlet in the Gang and the Tunnels
to be like, hey, if you

508
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.800
want to go down to the catacombs, go find Pappion. And it was

509
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.559
this kid, but he was burning
to death in a car that was on

510
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.000
fire, and Papa is like no, no, no, like I'm sorry,

511
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:42.239
I'm sorry, and then like the
kid from inside the car pulls Pep

512
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:49.599
into the fire car and it like
cartoon collapses into the ground and then he

513
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.079
gets swallowed up by like the ground
and just stops moving because he died.

514
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:58.440
But his freaking leg was sticking out
of the rock, like solid rock.

515
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:00.599
I think he might have had the
worst death. That's why I said it

516
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.599
was kind of cartoony. He's probably
alive under their heaving to just breathe in

517
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.119
the nothing, so you suffocate slowly, horrible. Then they hear horns and

518
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:15.000
like trumpets, and that's when they
see the man in a black cloak.

519
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:20.360
Dude that would freak me out.
It was the groom leaper that would freak

520
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:25.599
me out. So they hide from
him, and George can't take it anymore.

521
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:29.360
He pulls Scarlett's face, and he's
like, I'm fucking in love with

522
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.199
you, dude, even though you
almost got me killed in a Turkish prison,

523
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.599
that was the best year of my
life. I'm in love with you.

524
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:38.599
And she's like, oh my god, I'm so glad you're finally on

525
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:43.880
board and stop being a pussy.
So then they keep going and the guy

526
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.599
in the black cloak is now sitting
in a chair and it's hella, scary

527
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.920
would you creep past it? Or
would you run fast past it? Throw

528
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.039
a rock at it? You and
rocks? I think I would book it,

529
00:36:53.159 --> 00:37:00.320
dude. So with the scary cloakman
demons thing in the chair and they're

530
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.960
like sneaking past him, there's like
creepy ass faces on the walls. If

531
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:09.239
you've ever Dante's Inferno, obviously this
is kind of their take on it,

532
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:14.679
but like the scary ass faces in
the wall that are trying to get them.

533
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.400
It's just it's spooky, the scary
ass faces on the wall, which

534
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.400
Hawthorn thinks is what happened to pap
Like what if everyone who tried to venture

535
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:27.840
down there and who got like swallowed
into the ground just became scary wall faces.

536
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.639
That's very very possible. So after
that, one of them gets George

537
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:35.360
I don't remember how, but like
gets him in the neck and he's like

538
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:39.360
dying, and she's like, what
the hell. Scarlet and Zed both drag

539
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:45.960
him to quote unquote safety which is
like a dead end, so not really

540
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.960
safe, while there's like again people
coming after them still and she tries to

541
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:52.360
get the stone, and she tries
to get someone puts them on him and

542
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.000
it's not helium. She's like,
why isn't it working? Why isn't it

543
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.639
working? And then George says,
vitrio, Yeah, VI's real. Remember

544
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:06.920
what that means in Latin? It
refers to the Philosopher's Stone being discovered only

545
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:10.400
by rectification. She says, it's
another riddle that means only by returning it

546
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:15.280
to its original spot where you find
the real stone. Yes, and she's

547
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.199
like, well, shit, z, I know we're all dying. Stay

548
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.679
here, protect George and I will
be back. And this is my favorite

549
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:28.440
part because like she is fueled by
her love for that boy. I have

550
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.320
felt that, and like he just
confessed it to her. She knew she

551
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.119
felt the same, but like he
was all pissed about the Turkish thing.

552
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.800
She didn't want to bring it up. I felt this where you just go

553
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.320
into like this intense like I need
to protect this person and I don't care

554
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:44.159
what happens to me. I need
to do whatever I can for this person

555
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.159
because I love them. Let's do
it. Let's do it. And this

556
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.159
girl, she's like, fuck all
of this, I'm done. It's like

557
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:53.119
when you have ten HP on a
game and you gotta like run through all

558
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.559
the monsters to the end because you're
like, I'm not I can't reset the

559
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.639
level. It's my last life,
my last life. The game's gonna break

560
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.199
and hat off if I don't do
this right now, Like let's go hell

561
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:06.480
yeah, And you're like, I'm
not battling anyone, yep, I sendra

562
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:12.679
Konis all the time. We just
run past. She's like going as fast

563
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.400
as she fucking can, and she
goes past all like the Demon people,

564
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.719
passes the fucking Grim Reaper, past
Benji's dead body and has to fast climb

565
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:27.360
back up the fucking thing. Yeah, the whole swim through the water,

566
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.559
but somehow it turned into his like
ridiculous blood and things are like grabbing at

567
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:37.719
her and you just know something's gonna
pop out and ice arms. When she

568
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:42.320
comes out of the water and she
like gets pulled back in. I screamed,

569
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.679
like a bitch. M That's what
I'm talking about. But with all

570
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.719
of this, like through the water
everything, she also gets into a tunnel

571
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:54.320
and you see her dad, like
her dad's hanging body because he killed himself,

572
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:58.079
and she goes up to him,
goes up to his body, and

573
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.280
she's like, I'm sorry, didn't
answer the phone. I'm sorry. Yeah,

574
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.880
And he's like, is at peace? Yeah, you just have to

575
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.360
repent your sins basically is what it
was saying. Yeah, and that's what

576
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:15.239
no one could do. I feel
like George survived because he like he survives

577
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.000
his whole thing with his brother.
When he saw his brother Johnning, he

578
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.559
admitted it. Plus I think it's
because he went in the caves, Like

579
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.400
he went through those caves and he
swore he'd never go on caves again.

580
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.719
He admitted like his guilt with his
brother. And once you admit it,

581
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:31.920
it's just like okay, you're done, Like it's the one step. It's

582
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:37.280
kind of crazy. Z's secret was
that he had a son he never has

583
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.079
met, even though he knows it's
his, Like it looks just like him,

584
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:45.199
and he denies that it's his.
And then after she sees the dad,

585
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:49.880
she keeps going all the way through
all her little tunnels and ship and

586
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.960
she gets back into the treasure room
and she puts the stone back and she's

587
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:53.519
like, here you go, here
you go. I'm sorry, and she

588
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:58.920
puts the back workhouse. She's done, and there's a mirror right there,

589
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.440
and she looks at it and it's
like dirty, but like because it's old.

590
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:06.639
So she like touches it and you
see her face reflected in it,

591
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:12.159
and then you just like, Okay, I'm magic now, because she's magic

592
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.719
now. She becomes the stone.
Yeah, she becomes the stone. That's

593
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.760
why Flamel's freaking body was still like
that, because he is like the stone,

594
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.079
yeah, until someone else got it, which was her. After she

595
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:30.679
does this again, she's like,
okay, round three, guys, and

596
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.559
she has to go from in the
cave again into the water. The water

597
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.800
turns back into water. She sees
her dad's hanging dead, hanging body and

598
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.360
she gives it like a hug,
and she's like, I'm sorry, and

599
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.440
it disappears. That's done. She
goes through. She sees the guy in

600
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:51.920
the black cloth but she's like magic
now because anything that comes near her it's

601
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:54.800
it's it's just Harry Potter. It's
like how Quarrel couldn't touch Harry because he's

602
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:59.000
like magic like that. We're kind
of like a Mario when you have like

603
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.480
a blinky star on you, you
know, the superstar thing, you can

604
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:06.119
like run through that shit. Because
she like pushed one of those monsters faces

605
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:10.760
and shattered, like what sh That's
when they find themselves at the edge of

606
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:19.679
the big ass hole again, and
Scarlet now understands everything. She knows that

607
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.760
the only way down is out,
the only way out is down. They're

608
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:25.920
like, dude, if we jump
down this hole, we will die.

609
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.280
She tells them the only way out
is down, and they're like that saws

610
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.639
to make sense. And she's like, they will kill us if we do

611
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.199
not jump. But before you jump, you have to admit like we have

612
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.000
been saying, like your sins repents
all that kind of shit. Everyone does

613
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.639
repent and Jesus will forgive you.
They hold hands and they jump. They

614
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.280
jumped down, but they end up
upside down. Right side up? Yeah,

615
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:57.280
like upside down, Okay, you
don't know if you're right side up

616
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.719
or not like that's how they were. And then they think they're trapped and

617
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.679
she's like, no, dude,
we're at the end. And he's like,

618
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.320
how do you know? How do
you know? And sure enough they

619
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:12.800
see a manhole cover on the ground
and they try to pull it. They

620
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:17.880
try to pull on it. It
won't budge. But if you pushed down

621
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.760
on it, AKA pushed up on
it as if it was like above your

622
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.119
head, but this is down below
them. It's crazy because she puts her

623
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.280
hand up and it looks like she's
putting her hand down, but it's really

624
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.880
up, you know. Yeah,
it's weird to you. And then they

625
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:37.119
climb through the hole, but you
see them hoisting themselves up. It's really

626
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.280
cool, like because they put the
camera through first. Right when they're all

627
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:45.199
three of them are free, the
only survivors, Scarlet, George and zed

628
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.199
Zed books it. He's like later, yep, He's like, I'm done.

629
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.760
I won't talk to y'all ever again. By yeah, and Scarlett and

630
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:58.639
George's hug and in the end all
she says it's the beginning of her documentary

631
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.960
getting interviewed Benji and he's like,
why are you doing this? You know,

632
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:06.199
like for money or whatever. She's
like, I'm not a treasure hunter.

633
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.039
I just I just want the truth. That's all I love. And

634
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:13.320
that's exactly how it ended. What
do you write the movie out of five?

635
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:19.000
Probably four? I liked it,
Okay, okay, maybe it's three

636
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.599
point eight point eight. Let's say
that it's okay. I didn't love it.

637
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:27.920
I like it. O good.
What about you? I really liked

638
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.400
the movie. I'll begin a four
because I think it is scary. If

639
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:34.239
you can put yourself there. That
really freaked me out because I was in

640
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:39.079
the dark. Especially if you've ever
been in a claustrophobic situation or even just

641
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:44.679
a dark situation, it really gets
you. I think it's definitely worth the

642
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.760
watch, especially if you will know
a lot about this kind of stuff like

643
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:54.800
mythology and philosophy and shit. It's
really interesting that they took it and did

644
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.159
it this way. But yeah,
I highly recommend it. Our promo for

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647
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649
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650
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651
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654
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www. Say right dot pintocomics dot
com and listening. We put out new

656
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episodes every single week. So Hawthorne, what's your murder this week? My

657
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:54.400
murder this week is Daniel J.
LaPlante aka the Townsend Murderer, and here

658
00:45:54.400 --> 00:46:01.039
we go. Daniel J. LaPlante
had a horrible childhood. He was bullied

659
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:07.760
in school for being dyslexic, having
poor hygiene. Kid said that he was

660
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.960
just creepy looking and really just socially
awkward. Is that a little brother?

661
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.599
It was probably because his home life
wasn't any better. In fact, it

662
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:21.639
was far worse. At home.
He was being verbally, physically, emotionally

663
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:27.679
and sexually abused by his stepfather.
Gross school officials referred him to a psychiatrist

664
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:35.199
to receive help for his personality disorder
called hyperactivity disorder, which is essentially ADHD,

665
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:42.039
but unfortunately, his psychiatrists began sexually
abusing him as well. Jesus Christ,

666
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.239
a poor kid being let down by
almost every adult in his life,

667
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:51.559
la Plant began breaking into people's homes
to gain some kind of control in his

668
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.280
life. By the age of fifteen, he was breaking into people's homes,

669
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:59.519
and he wasn't just taking their possessions. He would also leave items behind in

670
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:04.559
the home too. Unlike normal burglars, the Plant wouldn't take obvious things.

671
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:08.360
He liked to take something unnoticeable,
and he would also move things around in

672
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:13.880
people's homes. It's so creepy.
He would do so in such a way

673
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.159
that it was clear someone had entered
their home, but they would have no

674
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:20.599
idea at first. What was messed
with. What he loved the most was

675
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:22.880
the mind games he played with them. Can you imagine coming home to your

676
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.119
apartment after a hard day of work
and the door was ajar, so you

677
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.000
know someone was there, and you
know you locked the door and everything seems

678
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:31.840
fine, but all of a sudden, you're like, wait, I didn't

679
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:37.719
leave my hairbrush there. My couch
shouldn't be there. Can you imagine how

680
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:40.679
scary that would be? You know
I live alone. You know I hear

681
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.840
creepy f found in my apartment,
and you know my door doesn't really work.

682
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.039
Stop freaking me out like this,
Jess. One time I came home

683
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.239
and I guess I hadn't closed my
door all the way. I used to

684
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.480
leave my sliding glass door about a
foot open so my dogs could go one

685
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:58.320
and out before I had the doggy
door installed, and I guess like the

686
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:00.280
wind, you know, like the
backdraft whatever didn't let the door click.

687
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:05.440
So when I came home later,
my door was ajar and I really thought

688
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.559
someone had like broken in my house
killed my dogs. I remember that wasn't

689
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.480
either. I think you actually were
there for that, and I like made

690
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.360
you and my child waiting in the
car while I went around the house with

691
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:19.840
a screwdriver. Yeah. Yeah,
I'd opened a door and I'd start swinging

692
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.679
and I was like, Okay,
no one's there. But the weird thing

693
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.840
was my dogs didn't make any noise, so it's just weird. I learned

694
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.480
the other day that even if I
locked the bottom of the door and shut

695
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.480
it, sometimes it won't fully go, So you could just pull it and

696
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:37.280
it's still open despite being locked.
So that's cool. Yeah, we have

697
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.719
to do that on our bedroom door. And I had a nightmare about that

698
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:45.880
recently too. I mean, our
houses are safe, guys, don't kill

699
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:51.519
us. We're talking about our doors
not working and shit, everyone's taken notes.

700
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:53.880
So this happened in the eighties.
In case you're running a time,

701
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:58.440
we're in. So in nineteen eighty
six, Danny and the Plant was now

702
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:02.760
sixteen, He obtained the phone number
and address of a family in the local

703
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:09.000
area of Townsend, Massachusetts. In
this home lived the Andrews family, consisting

704
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:14.760
of a father named Brian and his
two daughters. Their names are Annie Andrews

705
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:19.239
and Jessica Andrews. They were both
around the age of La Plant. The

706
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.480
sisters began to talk with Danny on
the phone and before you freak out,

707
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.519
you'd finished. And this was the
eighties and a lot of people did this.

708
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.559
His ruse was simple. He said
that he got their number from a

709
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.280
friend at school. He described himself
as a good looking, athletic blonde who

710
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:38.880
was well educated and lived in the
area. Annie and LaPlante began talking on

711
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:42.719
the phone a lot and soon decided
to go on a day and meet in

712
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:47.239
person. When La plant arrived at
Annie's doorsteps, she was shocked to see

713
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:52.239
that the boy she had been talking
to was the exact opposite of who he

714
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:57.320
said he was. Instead of being
a hot, tall, blonde jock like

715
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:04.079
she was expecting, he was a
greasy, short dorc Annie, being a

716
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.679
sweetheart, still went out with him
on a date, but after about an

717
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.639
hour she made an excuse and went
home. During that hour, however,

718
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.400
she actually shared a lot about her
personal life with him. She had told

719
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:20.280
him that her mother had recently passed
away due to cancer, and you would

720
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.039
think someone would be like, oh
my god, I'm so sorry, like

721
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:29.800
you, okay, But LaPlante asked
inappropriate questions and wanted to hear in great

722
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:35.920
detail every aspect of her mother's death. He asked her how she felt at

723
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:39.400
the exact moment her mother died.
He wanted to know how much she suffered.

724
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:44.440
Our grandpapasty almost a year ago,
and I can't even like talk about

725
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.159
it, so dude, I start
crying anytime I think about it. Long

726
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:51.679
story short, she didn't want to
go out with him again, but he

727
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.599
wouldn't go away. One night,
Annie and her sister Jessica attempted to contact

728
00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:00.440
their mom through a seance in their
basement. Like normal teenager would do.

729
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.440
They grabbed a Buiji board and got
to work. They didn't expect anything to

730
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:09.719
actually happen, but later that night
the girls awoke they heard a little knocking

731
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.119
on their wall. They began to
speak with the unknown being, and they

732
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:20.079
truly started to believe that they were
talking to their mother. They would ask

733
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:23.079
the spirit yes or no questions by
having an answered by knocking on the wall.

734
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.880
This continued for a few nights straight. They really thought that they had

735
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.199
figured out a way to talk to
their mom again. That's so sad.

736
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.280
Oh my gosh, I know.
I feel like that's something me and you

737
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.960
would do if we were like younger. They'd try to talk to Grandma again.

738
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:42.760
Soon, the knocking began to interfere
with the girl's sleep. As the

739
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.960
days went by, shit started to
happen. Objects in the house began to

740
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:50.039
disappear, like they would leave something
on the table, go to school,

741
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.440
and when they would come back that
shit would be all over the floor.

742
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.960
One time they came home and all
the furniture was moved from one side of

743
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.039
the living room to the other.
That's so much work just to fuck with

744
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:04.840
them, though I know, Jessica
and Annie believed that they were being haunted

745
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.320
by a malevolent demon and not the
spirit of their mom. Makes sense,

746
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:13.119
Brian Andrews. The dad believe that
the girls were doing all this weird stuff

747
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.599
for attention. They told them that
they did a seance and that they had

748
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.719
unknowingly let a vengeful ghost into their
home. The dad refused to believe such

749
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.480
absurdity. He just thought that this
was their way of dealing with their mother.

750
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:29.239
Everyone copes in different ways. They
really want my attention. And this

751
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.199
actually went on for quite a while. In January of nineteen eighty seven,

752
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:37.119
the strange knocking had begun well.
Jessica and Annie were alone in the front

753
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.440
room. The knocking was so frequent
that they felt like they were going to

754
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:44.920
go insane. Every time it was
just them at home, they would just

755
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:49.800
hear knocking everywhere they went. But
this night it was different. Instead of

756
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.440
sounding like it was coming in the
walls, the knocks were coming from in

757
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:57.239
the basement. The girls went to
the kitchen and grabbed a big gass knife

758
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.039
and they crept down to the basement. Once they were there, they saw

759
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:05.159
a message written and read on the
wall, and it said I'm in your

760
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.800
room, come and find me.
The girls got the fuck out of the

761
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:13.000
house without hesitation. They went to
the neighbor's house and they called her dad,

762
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:15.840
begging him to come home. When
he rushed home, he was like

763
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:20.760
pissed. He was like, why
are you doing this? And kind of

764
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.760
everyone thought they were just like some
kind of hoax or something. A few

765
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:30.079
weeks after that attack, if you
will, the girls heard the knocking sounds

766
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:35.320
and this time they came right behind
Annie's bedroom wall. When the girls entered

767
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:39.480
the room, they were greeted with
another message written and read. It said

768
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:45.119
I'm back find me if you can. Just as before they ran out the

769
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:46.440
house, they went to the neighbor. They called her dad. When he

770
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:51.079
got home, he ran right inside
to prove that there was no one in

771
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:57.199
there. However, when he entered
the house, he noticed that it was

772
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:00.400
fucked up way more than ever before, and he knew the girls couldn't have

773
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.800
done this, and like the short
amount of time that he had been gone.

774
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.239
When he entered Annie's room, there
was another message, and this one

775
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:12.639
said marry me. Then on the
other side of the room, Brian saw

776
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:20.280
him. Laplant was standing there wearing
one of his deceased wife's dresses. Jesus.

777
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.039
He also had on her makeup,
a blond wig and was holding a

778
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:29.239
hatchet. He had tried to disguise
himself to actually look like the dead mother.

779
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:34.320
A struggle ensued between Laplant and Brian, but he was able to escape.

780
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.599
Brian didn't understand how he had disappeared
from his sight so quickly, especially

781
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:42.239
in his own home. That's when
he called the police. When they arrived,

782
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.360
they found out how he had been
playing Houdini. After searching the house

783
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:51.199
for clues on how Laplant may have
been able to get any access to the

784
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.679
house, one officer had found a
hidden crawl space in a cupboard. It

785
00:54:54.719 --> 00:55:00.320
was built into the wall of Annie's
bedroom. When the officer opened the hatch,

786
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:05.599
Daniel Plant was there, curled up
inside. The officers removed him and

787
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:09.440
arrested him, thank God. Upon
further inspection of the crawl space, they

788
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:14.719
had discovered that he had actually been
living there for weeks. He had been

789
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:19.800
crawling through the walls and carving little
holes to watch the family and torment them.

790
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:23.519
He only got one year in juvie
for this. That's it, yep.

791
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:28.920
And when he was released in October
of nineteen eighty seven, it only

792
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.360
took him a month before he started
doing bannes again, and I don't mean

793
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:37.199
bacon and eggs. In December of
nineteen eighty seven, he broke into the

794
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:44.159
Gustafson family home. Inside the home
was pregnant Priscilla Gustafson, who was only

795
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.599
thirty three. She was home with
her two young kids, Abigail and William,

796
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:52.719
while her husband, Andrew, was
at work. When Andrew got home

797
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.400
from work, he walked into his
worst nightmare. He found his wife,

798
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:59.880
Priscilla, laying face down on their
bed, the pillows dyed red with her

799
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:02.559
blood. She had been shot multiple
times in the head at a point blank

800
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.239
range. She had also been sexually
assaulted. Andrew called the police and when

801
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.719
they arrived, they searched the rest
of the home and that's when they found

802
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:17.880
the bodies of Andrew's two children drowned
in different bathtubs. Five year old William

803
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:22.000
was drowned in the upstairs bathroom,
while eight year old Abigail was drowned in

804
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:29.320
the downstairs bathroom. Laplant's reasons for
these gruesome moods remain unknown. The police

805
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:32.880
found a handful of items that were
used as restraints. Other evidence led them

806
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:37.079
to believe that this is how it
went down. They think Laplant forced his

807
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:40.239
way into the home, and Priscilla, being pregnant and having two young children,

808
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:44.039
there wasn't much she could do.
Next, he held her and the

809
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.880
children at gunpoint and restrained them.
It is believed that he killed Priscilla first,

810
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:52.679
and he drowned the children one by
one last. It didn't take them

811
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:57.920
long to link Laplant to the Gustafson
family murders, though a lot of weird

812
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:01.480
stuff had already been happening and he
was like their go too. When he

813
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:06.719
got wind of this, he fled
and a manhunt ensued. La Plant was

814
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:09.079
considered to be armed and dangerous,
especially with all the ship he had been

815
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:13.599
doing. On his run from the
law, he broke into a woman's home

816
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:19.440
and kidnapped her and made her like
drive in her car. She was able

817
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:23.039
to escape, and thankfully someone spotted
him after seeing his photo on the news.

818
00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:27.440
Again, this is the eighties.
That's how she got done, and

819
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.679
they found him hiding in a dumpster
two days later. Once they searched his

820
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:36.760
body, they found one of Abigail
the eight year old's hairs in his sock,

821
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.760
and that linked him directly to the
murder. In nineteen eighty seven,

822
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:44.880
so about one year after the murders, Daniel la plant was sentenced to three

823
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:49.760
life sentences for the murder of the
Gustafson family. My swarches for this case

824
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:55.000
were wbird dot org, hackbrain dot
net, parkaman dot com, and watpad

825
00:57:55.039 --> 00:58:00.920
dot com. Weird. I know
I chose this murder because in the movie

826
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:04.960
as above so below, Moule was
living in the tunnels for a long time

827
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:09.360
and killed Suxi soon after he was
found, And in this case, LaPlante

828
00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:14.000
was living in the crawl space in
the Andrew's home for a long time and

829
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:17.159
once he was released from jail,
he soon killed after. I know it

830
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:22.079
tie is very loosely, but like
it just seemed kind of like mold to

831
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:27.239
me. Like LaPlante has like dark
hair, and like he's pale and has

832
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.360
like a small facial features, and
he's weird. He just seemed like mole.

833
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:34.760
Like this is something that mole would
do. That's how I felt,

834
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:37.159
like, what if he was able
to get out with all of them?

835
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.519
And then he like, I don't
know, and he was only seventeen.

836
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:44.440
Every one of the movies seemed really
young, and his name sounds French.

837
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:47.239
So that's how I linked the murder. This week, I just thought,

838
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:51.239
it's funny how you like he's kind
of like a mole. He was like

839
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:55.440
hiding in the ground, and he
was he was like hiding in the house.

840
00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:00.079
Still, ladies, amreless. Was
story do you have for us today?

841
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:07.400
My story is from No Sleep and
it was posted five years ago by

842
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:14.639
someone named unidentified underscore BA, who
I'm sure is an unidentified badass, and

843
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:21.760
it is entitled Stranded in Hell.
I did everything for her. Please remember

844
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:24.239
that, and I will start at
the beginning. My wife and I we

845
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:29.760
awoke in a suspended cage. All
of our clothes were torn in pieces,

846
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:32.880
but our bodies were fine. The
cage was dirty and bare, and the

847
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.519
only thing in it was us.
Outside the bars of the cage was an

848
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:42.519
unending landscape of jagged rock, featureless
except as the things that moved across its

849
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:46.159
surface. People and things that were
not people. This is how my wife

850
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:51.199
and I woke up in hell.
We were both rational, but rationality only

851
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:57.000
lasts so long. We cried and
screamed for help until we moved past emotion.

852
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.639
The cage was our home for a
time, but eventually hunger forced us

853
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:06.039
to make a decision. The cage
was unlocked, why would it not be.

854
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.719
It was hung from the ceiling with
a massive chain suspending us thousands of

855
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:15.920
feet from the floor. The landing
was not soft, but in hell,

856
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:21.360
your body never stays broken. We
learned this after we jumped. We walked

857
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.159
for a very long time. Many
people around us had either given up,

858
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:28.800
choosing to lay on the floor or
moan, or they walked like we did.

859
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:31.920
My wife and I. She kept
me going, and I like to

860
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:37.119
think I helped her keep going as
well. The things that were not people

861
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.519
were the only true reminder of where
we were all different from the next.

862
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:45.320
Some of them were massive, crushing
people in their wake. Others worked like

863
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:50.599
a hive, a single mind for
countless bodies. All of them had teeth

864
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:54.239
and claws stained from use. There
was a ceiling, so there had to

865
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:59.000
be walls. It was a goal, at least, something to do amidst

866
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:02.400
the terrible hunger pain. The ceiling
was as flat as the land before us.

867
01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:07.400
Its only feature was a gaping hole
that only the rugged winged creatures could

868
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:14.440
travel away out. Possibly I did
everything for her a long enough time,

869
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:19.119
and you get used to anything.
Hell seemed almost redundant. The sound of

870
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:22.719
unending pain was boring, and the
sound of bone cracking was common. Only

871
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:29.320
two things needed to be avoided,
the dark and the sacs. Sacs like

872
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:34.039
egg sac and the shadow of the
greater creatures. People sunk into the floor,

873
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:38.360
almost as if the dark came alive
through desperate fighting and screams lost to

874
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:44.639
the total blackness. We only saw
this twice. The other peril the sacks

875
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:49.920
were large, unmoving and made from
burned flesh. My wife and I watched

876
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:53.400
a man limp to one. It
screamed at him, a high piercing noise

877
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:58.800
that there was closer from our vantage
point. I thought of a siren briefly

878
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:01.880
before the man was spread with blood, the force of it sending him backwards.

879
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:06.679
My right arm was also covered,
and I began to itch with a

880
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:10.639
force I thought impossible before my eyes. My arm became a deep red as

881
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:16.599
it hardened like steel, my fingers
sharpening in my terror. I paid little

882
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:21.840
attention to the monster that sprang up
from the place the man landed. The

883
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:25.400
sacks was the forges in which demons
were made. My arm never stopped itching,

884
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:30.559
and my attempts to satisfy it with
my left hand and my finger nails

885
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:34.159
cracked and broken. But I had
a way to provide for my wife.

886
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:38.360
I used my arm to cut and
main people, stealing clothes, food,

887
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:44.559
shelter. We forgot our pain by
forcing it on others. I did everything

888
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:46.679
and more for her. There was
no way to keep track of time,

889
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:51.480
But it was so long before I
forgot my name. The only thing I

890
01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:54.440
never forgot was my wife and my
love for her. Well Goddess in the

891
01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:59.440
end was one of those sacks,
the sirens. The call of them was

892
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:02.480
undenied table at least to my wife. I tried to stop her, but

893
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:07.039
she was always faster, and my
arm maide running impossible with its great weight.

894
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:12.039
So I followed her, screaming and
begging her to listen to me,

895
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:15.639
But she was so coated and the
sick blood of that thing. By the

896
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.679
time I got to her, her
body grew larger, her arms longer,

897
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:23.719
almost tentacle like. Her screaming deepened
as her feminine form was lost to the

898
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:29.719
changing. I cannot imagine the agony
she was in. Her head grew horns,

899
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:35.440
her back grew great leather wings.
Her legs fell off at the knee

900
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:39.039
with a snap. Once her transformation
was done, she gave me a knowing,

901
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:44.960
pained look. I had tears in
my eyes, the first true liquid

902
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:47.239
I felt since we got down here. I was picked up by one of

903
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:51.519
her new arms, and a flap
of her wings took us up. I

904
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.920
felt the wind ripping through me,
the roar of our fellow demons as we

905
01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:00.800
tore through the hole in the ceiling, darkness taking over us. My waking

906
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.519
mind found myself sitting in the smashed
car. The truck had hit us head

907
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:10.119
on, sending my alcohol containers all
over the interior. I knew they were

908
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:14.280
mine because my wife did not drink. In the passenger seat, my wife's

909
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:17.760
legs were crushed, my own arm
hanging limply by the smallest amount of flesh

910
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:23.840
possible. I looked into her dimming
eyes, her irises bright red and glowing

911
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:29.440
with fire, before she shut them
forever. She did everything for me I'll

912
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:33.199
never forgive myself and I don't think
I should. And that's my story,

913
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:41.239
dude. That was good. I
obviously picked it because hell and demons,

914
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:46.639
and also how like guilty he feels
and everything he was feeling like transmitted into

915
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:49.840
like his own hell that he saw. And you know, when you're in

916
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:54.960
like a traumatic event, it it
feels like it goes on forever. So

917
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:58.320
that's what he was feeling. It's
just like in the movie, like they

918
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.239
have all this creepy shit happening down
in Hell and they don't know what's real.

919
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.559
They don't know what's anything. We
don't even know how long they were

920
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:11.000
down there exactly. And then just
like the whole should I forgive myself?

921
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:14.840
I have to forgive myself. It
was my fault, guilty conscience type of

922
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:16.880
shit. That's it. That was
my story, dude. If you wouldn't

923
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:21.519
have felt bad about her getting blasted
with that demon blood thing, she wouldn't

924
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:26.000
helped him out or they wouldn't have
been saved. I don't think. Yeah,

925
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:29.440
yeah, that felt really good,
better than mine anyway. That was

926
01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.639
my story. Cool. We don't
know a movie we're doing next. We're

927
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:35.960
kind of on the fence. Between
like two of them. But no,

928
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:40.480
no, no, I think we
know what movie we're gonna do, but

929
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:47.679
we're not gonna ruin it for you. So we'll see y'all next week.

930
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:51.960
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931
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:56.559
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01:05:56.639 --> 01:06:00.079
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01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:20.239
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938
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:29.880
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939
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:32.320
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940
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:35.679
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01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:40.280
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