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Joe's Goalante live from Hollywood. By
Hollywood, you mean Burbank, across the

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street from a Wienerschnitzel that serves beer. We are live. This is two

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hours of the business, end of
show business. We are here every Sunday

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from five to seven on KiB that's
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then later on it's a podcast and
you can hear it right now live all

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over the world in iHeartRadio. Sam
is with me. Good afternoon, Sam,

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Good afternoon. How are you doing, Joel? Thank you. Good

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to be in Burbank. That's good
to have you in Burbank. You got

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a tour of Burbank from what I
understand, Yeah, I gotta. I

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got a Tesla and you just kind
of tell it things and you get used

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to it. Yeah. I go
to KFI in Burbank and it went somewhere

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in Burbank. I don't know.
I was like, kind of, I

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don't know you would call that.
Did an auto drive you here? Yeah?

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Yeah, you just which is really
good when you've had a couple of

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drinks, because then you push the
like you're I mean, there's no swerving.

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Interesting, you can't swerve, so
not that I condone that even if

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you wanted to. So. All
right, So we talk about show business

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here and we usually start with the
movies, and this week in the movies,

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number one movie in America right now
is Transformers Rise of the Beast.

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Did you see this, Sam?
I did not. I didn't either.

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It's hard. It's gonna be hard
to get me to see that. Yeah,

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I from what I understand, the
people who saw it were saying it's

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the best one that has been out
since the first one. And I didn't

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like the first one. So this
is this isn't helping things for me.

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And then there's no Michael Bay.
There's no shy La buff. I think

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Michael Bay is a producer, but
he's not the director. Not that that

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would make a difference to me.
I'm just pretending I'm really cool. Does

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that mean he made money explode?
Probably Michael, But you know, um

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the director McGee, you've ever heard
of him? No, Charlie's Angels,

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it's famous. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, I saw that in Japan,

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by the way. Yeah, it
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like one of there's two channels that
showed movies, and that was one of

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the movies that can I hear in
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I wouldn't be surprised. Oh my
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me he was Michael Bay and they
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a little Hollywood story for you.
Number two is Spider Man Across the Spider

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Verse. This is the movie that
Sam saw this week. Am I right?

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Sam? No? And that's a
shame, but you are partially correct.

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It's the movie that I tried to
get tickets for but it was sold

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out and several screens. And I
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but a block away from two more
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I had the same problem. Yeah, so I had a second choice,

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and I'll tell you about that what
that one is. Okay, after we

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get down through the top ten.
Number three is The Little Mermaid. That

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was my second choice. And so
you saw The Little Mermaid? No,

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that was sold out as well?
Yeah, I had to go. I

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had to drive to Carson to see
The Little Mermaid. Wow. I live

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in Huntington Beach and that's you know, that's about twenty four minutes away from

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my house. To go see The
Little Mermaid. We talked about The Little

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Mermaid last week. It's really good. There's a lot of people that are

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criticizing it, and that when I
read those reviews about how they're criticizing it,

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and then I just feel like,
oh, I'm stupid. I sat

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through this movie and enjoined it.
Yeah, I'm dumb. Well, and

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I saw a lot of people trying
to sell the idea that it was a

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flop somehow, and it made almost
what a worldwide almost a half a billion

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dollars since it's opened. I can't
see any universe worth that's a flop.

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Well, it dropped off. If
a movie drops off over fifty percent and

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it's week, some people start saying
it's a flop. So I think that

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it dropped off like fifty eight percent
or something like that. So maybe that's

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where they're they're going with that.
I think. I think the reason why

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it was sold out was because everybody
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that was sold out, and then
they the backup was Little Mermaid, and

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for me, that one was sold
out. So continue with the list.

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I'll tell you where eich One.
I stopped on the Boogeyman is number five.

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Nope, that one has done twenty
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it's about. I mean, I
guess I get the Boogeyman, and I've

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heard of the Boogeyman since I would
you know any is there any like special

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lore or a reason why I should
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it's about. All I know if
I'm guessing it's a horror movie. Just

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based off of that. I don't
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Fast X is still high up there, taking in five million over the weekend,

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and Super Mario Brothers taking in another
two million. About my Father Number

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eight with Robert de Niro, is
that the movie you saw? No okay,

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movie's got a total of ten in
three weeks. Robert de Niro doesn't

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mean box office success at this stage
in his career. Why do you think

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that is too old? Too old? Also, the kind of role it

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is, it's like the kind of
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that would grab attention. It's not
a Scorsese movie. It's not something that

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never meet the fockers without that doesn't
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yeah, exactly. The machine Sony
movie was number nine, and then

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Past Lives as a movie. I
don't know anything about someone. I saw

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Guardians of the Galaxy, The Guardians. Oh wait, number four is Guardians

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of the Galaxy. I'm so sorry. I saw that with the kids and

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with their mom, and it was
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was a really fun movie. It
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trilogy. It gave it had a
lot of fan servicing movements, but the

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whole movie was solid. I would
say it was good then, but there

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was like kind of at the end. I was when they started talking like,

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Hey, I'm gonna do this,
I'm going to do that. Yeah.

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I was like, what do you
wait? Wait all this Like I

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had to sit through so much stuff
and then we've got eight seconds of your

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whole future and everything that's gonna happen
to you people. Yeah, did you

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stay for the very end? I
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but the kids, it was about
ten thirty kids were too sleepy, so

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we didn't stay. I didn't stay
for the last one, but I googled

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and looked up what it was and
I thought it was cute. Yeah,

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he's eating cereal or something and it
had a reference on the newspaper to the

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Christmas special that they did. Really
yeah, because they brought Kevin Bacon on

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to cheer him up. Yeah,
he was feeling a little uncheery during Christmas.

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A little bit of Kevin Bacon in
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Kevin Bacon in there. Yeah.
Okay, So that's the top ten movies

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Guardians. I saw it. I
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So I'm all guardians up now from
my letterbox on my letterbox account.

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We will have let's have it up
here. But I remember what I saw.

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I saw a film called The Naked
Spur directed by Anthony Man, starring

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Jimmy Stewart and Vivian Lee. This
is a movie from nineteen fifty three.

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It's a classic western, and it's
on the Criterion Channel right now. If

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you like having the most expensive streaming
service in the world, you can get

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the Criterion Channel and watch really good
prints of mostly old movies, classics and

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some that are just like not classics. But if they're having a like a

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retrospective of someone's career, they'll show
their good films and their bad films.

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But Anthony Mann is a director who
teamed up with Jimmy Stewart at one point

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in his career, where Jimmy Stewart, what thought, you know what,

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I gotta get away from this good
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complicated characters. So he did a
couple of westerns. I've seen the I

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also saw the Winchester seventy three,
same duo working together. I saw that

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one like last week. So I'm
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of Jimmy Stewart and Anthony Mann and
Jimmy Stewart. You know, he's not

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playing a good guy. He's playing
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he's really a bounty hunter in this
movie, and he's searching for this guy,

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and of course there's some secret relationship
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for. It's hard to see a
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him being an upstanding human. He
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the two movies I've seen, he's
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He's kind of like you and me, Hey, look I've been wronged

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a little bit, or I'm trying
to make some money so I'm going to

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go and make the money and I'm
not gonna just be I can't just run

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around being a do gooder of all
do gooders. I'm just normal. I

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need my money and am I gonna
kill someone or uh sacrifice my values?

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No? But I'm also not a
pushover. And I think that's um kind

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of the the roles he's looking for. We'll see if he gets into anything

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darker, won't we because I'll probably
watch all of them. Now. I

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watched another film called The Graduate.
Um, you know this is just when

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you're on Criterion, you know you're
finding all you're finding. You're looking at

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the movies, and then they'll always
said, like for the Graduate, there's

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maybe five extra footage things of of
you know, the director talking about Mike

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Nichols as a director talking about the
Graduate. Then there's the actors. Okay,

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here's here's the fun part about that, and then we'll take a break.

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Now. In The Graduate, we
have Missus Robinson played by Anne Bancroft,

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and we have Dustin Hoffman playing Benjamin, the actual graduate, and Bancroft

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is an old woman seducing him.
How old you think she was when she

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played that role? Of the old
woman seducing Dustin Hoffman. I'm gonna go

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with thirty seven, very good,
thirty six who I was so close?

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How old are you? I'm forty
four. You're too old for missus Robinson,

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I understand. How do you feel
about that? I'm okay with that.

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Okay, she's hunting down teenagers.
Pardon me, I'll skip that one.

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So you know, that's always a
fun movie to watch. And I

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might have watched one or two others, but we'll just skip those and we'll

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take a break with Check Traffic.
I'm gonna come back with the news of

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the week in Hollywood, Joe's Belante
Live from that place. Joe's Bellante Live

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from Hollywood, by Hollywood, Mean
Burbank. All right, we're still talking

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about the box office this weekend.
The kind of saying that Transformers is almost

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it's almost a tie with them.
So it's like the second week of trans

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of Spider Man in the first week
of Transformers. Yeah, I believe,

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and but so Spider Man is so
strong, it's still almost beat the Transformers,

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but it's like a it's very close, but Transformers is the winner.

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And the people that we're talking about
superhero fatigue. We're wrong because that between

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the Guardians and this new Spider Man
movie and the Transformers, the box office

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that some people were saying it goes
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is just doing just fine. And
then Morner Brothers has the DC film The

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Flash next weekend, and we'll see
how that does. And with it looks

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like it'll probably do well. I
expect it not to do not as well

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as say Guardians, But if it's
a good movie, you're going to see

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a second weekend that's super strong,
because everybody's expecting a DC movie not hit

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very well. Yeah, so they're
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Yeah, and then what like some
people through word of mouth, if it's

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a good movie, then you'll see
some good numbers that second weekend. That's

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what I think, if it's a
good movie. And then the movie that

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was number ten was Past Lives.
That's an A twenty four movie. Now

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A twenty four is the only studio, small studio that people will go see

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a movie just because it came out
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one of those people. If I
see an A twenty four movie, they

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sell t shirts Okay, people wear
a twenty four T shirts. So people

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don't run around with Sony T shirts
unless they got it for free. Let

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me let me, let me back
that up. People buy A twenty four

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shirts. You know, if you
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you work there, then that's different. Anyway, let's move on to television.

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In television this week, one of
the big stories is that it falls

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right in the purview of this show
is Tucker Carlson leaving Fox News and then,

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I mean leaving is no big deal. He got fired. They said

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we're gonna, we're gonna part ways
with Tucker Carlson. He's a news guy

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on Fox News channel. If you
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he would get about you know,
two and a half million people every day

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watching in his hour long program,
which is a lot considering on CNN during

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the same time, there was probably
like a couple hundred thousand people watching,

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so he's he was a jog ernaut. They fire him, and no one

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knows the real numbers, but people
throw out the number twenty million dollars that

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his contract. He was getting paid
twenty million a year. They have him

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up until like the end of twenty
twenty four or something like that, so

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that's this year, that's next year. They fire him. But in TV

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and in any and it's like this
where your contract. This is a freedom

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of contract case, but it's going
to go to court or at least it's

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going to be really hotly contested.
It's an employment contract that pays him twenty

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million a year. Let's just use
these numbers that are floating around. It

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doesn't really matter what it is.
And they fire him. Now, if

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they're going to fire him, he's
got a contract. They gotta pay him,

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so he doesn't go, Okay,
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I negotiated for a guaranteed twenty million
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four, and they're like, okay, we'll give it to you, but

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you have to stay home because if
you if you read the contract, and

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I've negotiated hundreds of these talent agreements. That was all I did at CBS.

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I'm still doing them here and there. I did the Foo Fighters drummer,

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as we all know because I tell
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You can tell someone to stay home. That's a normal in a in

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a talent contract. We're going to
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I don't want to stay home.
Well you have to. Well,

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you can do whatever you want.
You can't compete with us. You can

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go work at the flower market,
knock yourself out, as long as you

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don't work in television or in digital. And now we have the language has

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been floating around for Tucker's contract digital, any kind of image. We know

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what they mean. They mean the
show you have on Twitter. You can't

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go to Twitter and recreate your show. And because you're competing, it's a

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non compete thing. I'm paying you
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nowhere. And if I say you're
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you you you stay home or you
do something else. We can't prevent

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you from working. You know,
you can be in a Broadway musical and

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play the guy on the music Man
and seeing seventy six trombones three shows a

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night, uh, seven days a
week, four shows on Saturday. Go

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ahead, you can do that,
but you cannot compete. And here's the

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agreement. Sign it or don't have
your lawyer explained it to you. So

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I believe that's the the contract that
he signed. Now, if you're Tucker

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Carlson, you have to m you
gotta think about this because you're you'll go,

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okay, well that's my contract.
If I make a deal with him,

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and say, okay, how about
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don't give him my twenty million and
I'm going to take a job at

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CNN, And they're gonna go,
wait, we'd save twenty million a year.

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Let him do it. And then
someone comes in and says, don't,

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look, we already know we're paying
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don't we're losing some ratings already.
Don't let him go to our competition and

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destroy us that way. Make him
sit home, Like okay, all right,

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all right, Tucker. Here,
we've all decided we're gonna have you

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sit home and we're gonna give you
your money. And that's just the deal.

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And you know that's our right.
Like if you pay someone to be

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in Transformers and they don't work out, you can swap them out after you

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start shooting, reshoot it, swap
him out. You got to pay that

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person, and you gotta pay the
new person. But that's how creative things

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are made all the time. So
there they got to write to do that.

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It happens all the time. I
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News is now saying because he put
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his contract, and from everything I
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are probably right. Carlson's lawyers say
this, Fox defends its very existence on

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freedom of speech grounds. Now they
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freely away from him because he took
a social to most social media to share

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his thoughts on current events. So
that's what they're saying. Well, well,

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he's not on a competing show.
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But that's what he's paid to do, share his thoughts on current events.

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That's his whole job. So if
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two million impressions, it's hard to
say that didn't count in the that language

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in the agreement where they said,
you can't, you know, go on

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some digital platform. You can't do
anything that is that looks you know,

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that is sharing your your thoughts on
any kind of media. So you're that's

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a tough one, I think they. I think if it goes to court,

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um talker loses but can he stay
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and collects his money in a year
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People could move on and then he
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era if he doesn't keep in the
public. So he might be worth it

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to him to just keep going on
Twitter. Fight this, fight this,

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fight this, and then come up
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because they don't want to go to
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And then then he might lose twenty
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loses, but he has to stay
relevant because that's about Bill O'Reilly. That's

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a good point. I thought maybe
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for him. The more you know, absence would make their heart grow fonder.

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Yeah, absolutely could be selling gold
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life. Joe's Goalante Live from Hollywood, Joe's Golante Live from Hollywood, every

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Sunday in KiB eleven fifty on your
AM dial. Okay, Actually, Sam,

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we were talking about Tucker Carlson's contract. I have an excerpt from his

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contract right now, that comes from
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Um, they've gone public with what
with the language? Ummm, so they

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said this evening we were made aware
of mister Tucker Carlson's appearance on Twitter.

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Well, I don't know if they
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my hands on this because of my
sources, but you're going to hear it.

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Pursue it. To the terms of
the agreement, mister Carlson's services shall

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be completely exclusive to Fox. He
is prohibited from rendering services of any type

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whatsoever, whether over the Internet via
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distribution, whether now known or hereafter
devised. Do you think that includes Twitter?

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Can he come back and go,
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just me sharing my personal thoughts.
Is it from the same account that he

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had on when he was with Fox? Now the Fox that usually the Fox

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personalities have an official Twitter and then
they have their own personal one. So

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yeah, he is sharing his thoughts
on current events, now sharing your thoughts

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on current events. Let me know, let me I'll say it again.

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Does this does this think? Does
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include that he's prohibited from rendering services
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Internet via streaming or similar distribution or
other digital distribution, whether now known or

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hereafter devised digital streaming Internet. It's
hard to think of something else. It

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sounds like it's kind of cover all
of the bases with the language. But

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for me, the the line as
if it's his corporate Fox News Twitter account

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or if it's his personal I mean, well, they can just turn off

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his Fox account. Yeah, that
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irrelevant. So they can just turn
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it's his account, what if he starts

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a network, then he can go
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starts a network, that would be
a problematic because that's setting up competition,

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competition. That's just his personal opinion. Well, you would be really good

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on his legal team, but unfortunately
you would be wrong. Explain please,

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because I would like to he would
like to be correct. He's prohibited from

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rendering services of any of any type
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distribution or other distribute digital distribution,
whether now an owner or hereafter devised,

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he's prohibited from rendering those services.
So he's going on Twitter and and and

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getting ninety two million impressions. Um, he can. You can say that's

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not competition, but you would have
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it's not competition. And even if
it's not, say yeah, well he's

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rendering services over the Internet. Who
is he rendering services too? The people

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who are the Internet. People on
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is rendering services to people who okay, watch the Internet. Okay, so

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it's not in service of any corporation
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is a consumer of Internet. He
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mean, I think it's really easy. It's like you have Tucker Carlson on

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your channel and people can either watch
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on Twitter and watch him. Now, you tell him I'm going to pay

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you to not do this job,
and then he goes over on Twitter and

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does it, and the same people
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him over there. Yeah, so
that's what you can't do. Now.

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Like I said before the break,
he knows that his lawyers know that,

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and they can't just sit home and
collect the money because at the end of

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twenty twenty four, when he can
go, when his noncompete thing is done,

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he could be irrelevant and like Bill
O'Reilly, who he's not as old

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as Bill o'reiley and he's not as
crotchety, So I think he would last

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a little longer, but he would
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by a new person that comes along, a new, younger person, and

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people are just going, wow,
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yeah, I remember that guy was. He was kind of interesting. So

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he doesn't he's fighting to not have
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a risk. He's going on Twitter. He's going to keep doing these things

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and keep doing these things until it
looks like it might bankrupt him or and

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then Fox is going to be um, you know, sending cease and desists

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and they're gonna go until they go
like, well, I don't know how

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much money do you want to spend
because right now they could say, well,

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okay, you're violated a contract,
we're not paying you. And then

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you could say Ah, if you're
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him, it doesn't mean his contractum
is depending how the country was a kind

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of contract I write. I would
say if you go, if you do

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violate this, we're not paying you. But every other thing in this contract

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still is valid. You still you're
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we're not paying you. So if
that does happen, where it becomes irrelevant

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while until his until the noncompete expires
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get the same level of attention or
fame or whatever following, would he be

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able to sue for damages. No, because he has a contract that they

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would They're they're willing to honor the
contract, but for future earnings, they're

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damaging his reputation or he's not able
to stay. He agreed to that,

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Okay, he had an arms length
deal. Yeah, Hey, look,

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you know you might be insane after
a while, and so we'll pay you

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and we're not gonna fight. We're
not gonna have you declared insane by a

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doctor. But we're just gonna have
you go into time out and we're going

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to pay you and you're gonna become
irrelevant, and we know that in advance.

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and this is what a good lawyer
will do. Hey, client,

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they could get rid of you and
then you you're going to get your money,

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but you're going to be irrelevant and
you can't go anywhere else. You

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can write books, and that's what
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But even though I think he's wrong
and his team is wrong in their

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interpretation of this agreement, I think
they know they're wrong, but I think

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they're doing the right thing and the
smart thing, which is to stay in

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the public eye and keep doing it
and challenge it and challenge and challenge it

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and come up with some kind of
settlement without becoming irrelevant. Because if that

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you're in that business, you got
to stay on the air. If that's

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what you want to do. If
you want to be hated by uh,

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you know, fifty percent of the
country and that's half your kids, be

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targets of you know, kidnappings and
abuse and terrorism, m you gotta stay

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in the public eye. So on
the one hand, it's like, yeah,

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I'm gonna get out of this game
and just like relax and just raise

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my kids. But you know,
he's got a lot to say, and

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he does say things that people want
to hear, and they're different than anyone

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else says on any other mainstream channel. So he's like, I gotta,

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I gotta keep being that voice.
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of you know, mission that he
think that he thinks he has to fulfill,

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and maybe he does. Meanwhile,
Elon Musk is toying with the idea

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of just turning Twitter into a replace
for CNN and Fox News and MSNBC and

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all the cable news channels by inviting
the fired people. And Rachel Maddow who's

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not fired at all. So I
think she makes about thirty five millionaire for

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doing almost nothing because she doesn't have
to work like she used to. But

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she's got so she's got all this
money and she's not going over to Twitter.

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She's not going to leave her MSNBC
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Lemon and other people that were fired
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Twitter. We were talking about this
in the break, you could, um,

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maybe you could supplant the cable since
the cable universe is shrinking anyway,

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so that he might know something.
Would this be the first time the lawn

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musk knew something that we didn't know
before it was going to happen. No,

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it would. Sometimes he knows things
that we don't know. I just

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I want him to figure out how
to keep the water from flooding the boardwalk

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in front of my house, so
without putting up a berm each year that

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makes me not see the water from
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I know he could do it with
tunnels and drains. Oh yeah,

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he has the money to do just
about anything. So can he create Kenny

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turn Twitter into a replacement for cable
news? I think it's doable, absolutely

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the He has the already the social
media reach. All he has to do

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is put in the infrastructure for being
able to set up video programming, which

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is already basically there. It's it's
doable. It's just will it have credibility,

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you know, one way or the
other. If if he's gonna be

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picking equal sides, everybody on both
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any kind of editing or censorship,
then I can see it working. I

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can absolutely see it working. Do
I think it's going to happen. I

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don't know. He kind of think
he says he wants he needs, he

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wants a liberal anchor to come to
balance out of the conservative eat Tucker Carlson.

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show back in the day where they

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would have like they had I think
Tucker Carlson with a liberal Yeah, that

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was like Crossfire. Yeah, so
it was a Crossfire or they had other

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shows similar to that as well.
And it usually if it's like you could

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tell what the political tinge of the
network is, it's almost going to be

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like everybody ganging up on the one
person. So I can see it working,

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but it has to be balanced.
If not, then it's going to

406
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:48.039
just be another biased network. Well, if Don Lemon is in charge of

407
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.200
his channel and Tucker Carlson is in
charge of his channel, then you switch

408
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.720
back and forth and it's just a
place where you go. It's also one

409
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.839
of those that you go to the
what to You got to hear what you

410
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.119
what you want to hear, and
you tune out what you don't want to

411
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.039
hear. But that's the way it
is now. See that's where I could

412
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.240
see the paying eight bucks for the
blue check would now slowly become worth it

413
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.960
because right now it took something that
was freely earned and meaningful. Now anybody

414
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.559
can go and buy it. Now
it's meaningless for the most part, but

415
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.920
that can make it so that that's
like your subscription base for programming that,

416
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.319
you know, like the Tucker Carlsons
or the Rachel Rachel Madhous. That that

417
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.119
point, I can see it,
you know, being justifiable for people to

418
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:34.680
put in the money for it,
right or just watch the commercials. Yeah,

419
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:37.680
okay, let's take a break.
We'll check the traffic. I'm dying

420
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:42.599
to know what's going on out there, and we'll be back with more.

421
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:48.480
Joe Scale Live from Hollywood. Joe
Live from Hollywood, by Hollywood, you

422
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:55.400
mean Burbank two hours of the business
end of show business. Actually watch Nacho

423
00:30:55.519 --> 00:31:00.880
lib Libre this week too. One
of the greatest movies of all times.

424
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.519
Sam, would you agree? Timeless, classic, so good? I bet

425
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:11.920
a little bit a cultural culturally,
maybe appropriative and in today's hyper sensitive world,

426
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.160
could not be made today. Yeah, now, very much. A

427
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.880
movie that would be controversial if it
was today, but at the time you

428
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:22.960
could tell the innocence behind it and
so it's hard to hold Jack Black accountable

429
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:30.920
persons of the past, the especially
when he's Bowser. Bowser, who's Bowser

430
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.960
from the Super Mario movie? Oh
was at him? Oh? Yeah that

431
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.960
was him? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah, I was thought you meant Bowser

432
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:38.480
from Seanna. Nah. No,
No, there's only one Bowser. Yes,

433
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:47.480
but I mean I'm a half Mexican, but the full Mexicans, I

434
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.599
know. I mean I hang a
lot with a lot of full Mexicans.

435
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:56.400
I got full Mexican relatives. That
movie is precious to them. They watch

436
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:02.839
it over and over and over because
he just nailed it. Um. So

437
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.960
how do people feel about Casa Demipadre, the one with Will Ferrell? Just

438
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:13.160
confused? It's like, what are
you talking? What is going on here?

439
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.039
They're not gonna watch that over and
over. There's like this is weird.

440
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.799
But for me, I feel like
that movie was made just for me.

441
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.559
It's funny for me. But yeah, and it's such a great name,

442
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:28.640
Cosa de me Padre. It's so
every person that had one second of

443
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:34.920
Spanish can can understand it. Did
you hear about this news over the last

444
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:40.920
week, the the Saudi Arabia golf
company merging with the PGA. I heard

445
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:46.039
deep, I heard loose word about
it. I know that they've the PGA

446
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:52.039
has been dabbling into going into Saudi
Arabia more getting more of the oil money

447
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.680
out of there. Well, it
starts with the Saudi's starting their own golf

448
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:01.960
league and then poaching golfers from the
PGA by just giving him, you know,

449
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.559
backing up the truck of money and
giving it. So they started poaching

450
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.839
them one by one, and then
it caused a big fight that maybe never

451
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:13.359
could be healed. So many people
saying, you're taking that Saudi money,

452
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:17.200
You're disgusting, and you're ruining the
PGA. You're just thinking of yourself,

453
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.200
why would you work for these monsters. There's a lot of that. And

454
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:28.240
then I mean some sports hosts really
like there's one guy they were talking about

455
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.119
where that guy just has to go, He just has to go away because

456
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:37.599
he was so vitriolic about the Saudi
Saudi's being in the golf world. And

457
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:44.359
then I mean he was relentless.
And then now the PGA and the Saudi

458
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.640
League are one Saudi's and I think
if you make a deal with the Saudis,

459
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:52.839
would you say it's kind of like
you've got to do with the Saudi's

460
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.920
say, now, well, if
you're gonna yeah, the Saudis have enough

461
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.839
money to where this is the kind
of thing where it's just a plaything for

462
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:04.519
them. Yeah, so if but
respect yeah, but so they just want

463
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.880
the plaything to respect them. However, PGA, this is like lifeblood,

464
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:13.400
this is sustaining them. So yes, oh yeah, because so they just

465
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.880
kind of they they fought and they
fought and they fought. But in the

466
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:25.320
end, the Saudis have so much
money and the PGA can't really sustain their

467
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:31.000
business model. So they formed an
alliance and with the Public Investment Fund.

468
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:36.239
And that's a okay, let me
tell you something about the Public Investment Fund.

469
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:40.000
Sounds um, public investments fund?
What's that? It's that's the Saudi

470
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:47.800
royal families. Um, we control
everything thing, all the hotels, Yeah,

471
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:53.800
all them crazy tourist things they're building
over there, like a in the

472
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.480
middle of the desert, they're building
a ski resort. Oh, they already

473
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.400
have like a ski mountain. Yeah. And like they talk about carbon footprint,

474
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:06.559
that place's carbon footprint is like death. Oh they have an argument for

475
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.960
that too. They go, oh, we are doing this with the sustainable

476
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:14.960
resources and and it's it's very good
for the earth. And then there's like

477
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.559
a hotel under a lake. You
know, it's like wow, and that's

478
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:22.400
in the public uh investment funds.
So now they're all part of that.

479
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.920
They're wrapped. They are just they're
in it deep. So that one guy,

480
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.360
I mean the guy that was like, you know Saudi's or evil Saudis,

481
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:35.400
how does he how does he announce
a golf match? Now he has

482
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.239
to go away? Yeah, I
mean when and this came out of nowhere,

483
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.679
So I can imagine that guy just
going I forgot his name, but

484
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.280
when he read you know, he
picked up his phone and he thought,

485
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:51.519
leave golf. It's l I V
that's the Saudi think merges with pea pga.

486
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:52.679
I mean, he just is just
you know, heart must have just

487
00:35:52.760 --> 00:36:02.199
sank, just like I guess I'm
I'm toast. Uh That's that's not the

488
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:07.480
way you want to lose a gig. So people are furious because of the

489
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:15.000
Saudi record on human rights and the
fact that they blew up two towers.

490
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:21.440
Uh they were called the World Trade
Center. Um those are Saudi's basically.

491
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.599
Uh. So people are like,
what are we doing here guys to me

492
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.880
and people are like, I like
money. Well, wwe did the same

493
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:36.159
thing. They did a thing in
Saudi Arabia and a few of the people

494
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.199
within the organization, some of the
talent just did not want to go and

495
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.800
they didn't support it, so they
just didn't go. And the women also

496
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:45.960
specifically, we weren't allowed to go. Don't get me started on the women

497
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:51.599
or the gays that they throw off
a buildings. Yeah, um so,

498
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:59.039
but the money. People like money. And but then when you look to

499
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.360
the NBA and the deal they made
with the Devil, which is the Chinese

500
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:09.840
Communist Party, Uh, that is
a human rights disaster and they're beholden to

501
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:20.320
them. So this is um,
they can't really throw stones. Yeah yeah,

502
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.400
wwe had the same kind of thing
with China. John Cena did like

503
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:28.119
some apology in Chinese. Yeah,
yeah, you had to. It was

504
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.320
either Mandarin or Cantonese. I can't
remember, but yeah it was I think

505
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:36.440
it was Mandarin, but it was. Yeah, that was That's that's all.

506
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:44.880
So everybody's gotta, you know,
think it through. How much does

507
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:51.480
that mean to you? These human
rights abuses China, your iPhones, You're

508
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.199
want you want to boycott China forever. Your iPhones are My iPhone I I

509
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.920
found out is not only made by
children, it's made of children. So

510
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.039
I have to live with that myself. I struggle with that every day.

511
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.400
Yeah, you have to use another
kid's fingerprint to sign into your phone.

512
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:12.719
Well, the thing about these phones
is they're so small and everything you have

513
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.760
to use the little tiny fingers of
the of the children, the tiny hands.

514
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.159
It's really no way to replace that. Oh, it's the same thing

515
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.079
with Persian rugs. Oh, don't
get me started. I went to I

516
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.800
was in Egypt. I did a
tour of a rug place. You know,

517
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.119
they oh, come to I go. I know, I'm this is

518
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.639
gonna cost me at least a thousand
dollars. All right, go to the

519
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:34.280
church. It's a rug school.
It was how to make rugs in Egypt,

520
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.719
right by the over bright by those
pyramids. I don't know if you've

521
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.199
heard of those. But and we
went into the rug school and as the

522
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:43.199
little kids just learning, and they
call it a school or is it a

523
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:47.960
slavery institution? But did they called
it a school? And you know,

524
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.199
the kids looked healthy, and they
looked happy, and they were learning a

525
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.559
craft. And my rug finally came. I had a rug made that was

526
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.320
the Giza Pyramids. They have all
these things like, Okay, I want

527
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.079
this one with the pyramids, so
I could like this, and then I

528
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:07.360
would like a this a flying saucer
flying over oh man. They just thought

529
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:14.239
I was nuts, but they did
it and arrived and I again walking on

530
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:19.800
it right now. Um. I
got this rug when I was an Afghanistan

531
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.239
or Iraq. I think I got
it when I was Iraq. Um which

532
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:28.599
is a depiction of the World Trade
Center bombings on a on a Muslim prayer

533
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:32.840
rug. Wow, And it's just
helicopters and it's towers coming down and I'm

534
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:39.280
like, what the hell is this? This is this is this is repulsive.

535
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.039
How dare you? How much is
it? That would be five rupees

536
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:47.519
or whatever? They take over there? Here you go, I'll take two

537
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:53.719
anyway. It's in my museum of
horrors at home. I step on it.

538
00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:59.679
I have no respect for this rug. Step on it, step spit

539
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:01.480
on it. I spent on you
rug. I step on you. Let's

540
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.199
take a break and we'll come back. We'll get a little more into Hollywood.

541
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:10.599
I got some ben Affleck and Matt
Damon versus Donald Trump News Joe'scalante Live

542
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:16.599
from Hollywood. Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you mean Burbank,

543
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:22.639
across the street from a Wiener Schnitzel. It sells beer. And we are

544
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:27.039
two hours of the business, end
of show business, every Sunday from five

545
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.000
to seven. This is our number
two. Sam is here with me and

546
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:42.880
Sam let's see where are we?
Where are we at? Ben Affleck Matt

547
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:54.360
Damon. This happens every we're getting
into election season and candidates make appearances and

548
00:40:54.559 --> 00:41:01.400
they use music, and whoever wrote
the song always says like don't stop thinking

549
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:06.719
about tomorrow? Is that one of
the ones I don't like any song that

550
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.360
would be used as a campaign.
Yeah, most songs used in campaigns usually

551
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.360
kind of sucks, just make me
sad. But anyway, don't stop thinking

552
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:16.079
about tomorrow. Born in the USA. Oh, these are not the kind

553
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.519
of music I listened to. But
anyway, they're always written by people that

554
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.239
don't want to be involved associated with
Republicans because that's not rock and roll.

555
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:30.320
So the one thing I usually explain
on the show is if someone like Donald

556
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.400
Trump goes to Madison Square Garden and
has a rally, he can play any

557
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.199
song he wants. He can play
songs from people that hate him the most,

558
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:45.760
because the Madison Square Garden has purchased
a blanket license to let anybody that

559
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:52.199
rents that place perform and cause to
be performed all their compositions. And that

560
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:57.119
is just the system. And it's
the system that as CAPA and b AM

561
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:01.639
I and C Sack and all Track
and the one that's owned by Irving A's

562
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.559
off I forgot the name of that
one, but that's the way they want

563
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.679
it. They've always argued for years
that the only way to be able to

564
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.280
do this is with blanket licenses.
And they've gone to the Supreme Court and

565
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.840
said, we have to have consent
decrees that allow us to bypass anti trust

566
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:22.239
laws so that we can have these
blanket licenses to make it easier to make

567
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:28.000
deals to have music performed at our
arenas or restaurants or any place that has

568
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:35.320
a commercial purpose and a more than
a mom and pop stereo system in their

569
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:43.800
establishment has to pay for a blanket
license to play music. Now, the

570
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.719
people that write these songs, they
don't recognize that. For some reason,

571
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:50.800
they forget about the blanket license and
they go, I forbid you to play

572
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:55.519
my music. So everyone gets on
their high horse because they just want to

573
00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:00.760
tell people that they're are not supporting
this political candidate, because they're getting letters

574
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:07.000
from people saying, why are you
allowing this demon to use your sacred music

575
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:15.920
for to recruit people to vote for
onerous candidates? And they're just dummies.

576
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.639
The blanket license is pretty easy to
explain and understand. I just explained it

577
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.239
it to you people. But this
story is different. Ben Affleck and Matt

578
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:30.480
Damon said that Donald Trump is using
an entire monologue from the movie Air in

579
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:40.199
a commercial trying to raise money for
his campaign. One of the here,

580
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:45.440
here's a couple of quotes from the
did you see Air? No? I

581
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:51.639
have not okay? Well, in
Air, there's things going on like you're

582
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:55.559
going to be remembered forever because some
things are eternal, and your story is

583
00:43:55.599 --> 00:44:04.760
going to make us fight and never
give up. It's things like that Damon's

584
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:10.679
Oh yeah, he says money can
buy you almost anything, can't buy you

585
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:17.840
immortality that you have to earn.
Then they show Trump doing something. Then

586
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.199
then Matt, Then you hear Matt
Damon's voice in a Trump commercial but you

587
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:27.079
know what, once they've built you
as high as they possibly can, they're

588
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.480
going to tear you back down.
It's the most predictable pattern. We build

589
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.679
you into something that doesn't exist,
and that means you have to be that

590
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:38.440
thing all day, every day.
You're going to be remembered forever because some

591
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:43.480
things are eternal in your story.
It's going to make us fight and never

592
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:49.480
give up. Okay, that's pretty
inspiring stuff. So he's trying the saying,

593
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.360
even Matt Damon and Ben Affleck know
that you build someone up like Trump

594
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:57.119
and then you try to tear him
down. Now, if I'm Donald Trump

595
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.360
and someone tells me you can't use
that, you gotta get permission. You

596
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.440
need permission from the people who made
the movie. You need to go to

597
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.519
the Screen Actors Guild and get some
kind of license to for this reuse reuse

598
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:08.920
fees. I believe that's what they
call it. There's a lot of things

599
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.039
you got to do. Donald Trump
says, what's the fine for that?

600
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.599
Well, they could sue you.
What's the most it could happen to me?

601
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:16.000
I don't know. You could go
to court and you could they could

602
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.159
find you, and I don't know
A couple hundred thousand dollars sounds good to

603
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:27.800
me. Uh, run it.
So that's probably what he did. And

604
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.800
that's not what we stand for here
at the Joe's Going to Live from Hollywood.

605
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.280
We stand for getting permission, not
the whole idea of what. They

606
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.800
don't ask for permission, ask for
forgiveness. I don't like that. So

607
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:43.039
I think that's what they did here. And then they caused that Matt Damon

608
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.719
and Ben Affleck to come out and
say we don't endorse this, and which

609
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.440
they should, and they did,
and I don't know what's gonna happen.

610
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:53.320
That's interesting because we always talk about
it with music, but this is the

611
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:57.039
first time I've ever seen it with
a movie clip. A movie clip,

612
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.760
so that's he does he have to
pay royalties to the writer of it.

613
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:07.239
What's the reuse fees WGA, SAG, d GA, all of them.

614
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:13.000
So if it's financially worth it to
him to run that clip over and over

615
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.159
again and pay the fine on it, I'm sure he'll keep doing it.

616
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:21.119
But I don't think that's necessarily financially
worth it. They find something else.

617
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:23.920
I know it's really inspiring, though, I think it's it's expiring because it's

618
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:28.440
it's these Hollywood if you're if you're
Trump, you go, this is the

619
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.599
best because even those Hollywood guys know
that I've been uh, you know,

620
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:39.559
wronged. They know, but they're
h and I'm and they're gonna I'm gonna

621
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:44.920
use their I'm gonna put it,
use their words to defend me and my

622
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:52.199
victimhood whatever anyway, and I'll pay, I'll pay the fine. So it's

623
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.400
going to be weird. It's going
to be weird. I mean, because

624
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.519
you know everyone's gonna I mean,
it's when you say it's not worth it,

625
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:06.679
it could be really not worth it, because if the DGA and the

626
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.000
SAG and everybody just goes after him, isn't one more problem in his hands

627
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:15.440
already being indicted right, left and
center? Yeah, this one. But

628
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.280
do you think anyone I think he
would listen if someone said, you know,

629
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.960
mister Trump, here's the scenario where
this might just go on for so

630
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:28.079
long and not be worth it.
Yeah. Those people, those people were

631
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.039
fired years ago, like the first
people that worked for him. Yeah,

632
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.400
now, and they fired everybody.
Choose him up, he spits him out,

633
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.920
He choose him up, he spits
him out. Now what kind of

634
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:43.039
a d team is he got around
him that that, you know, the

635
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.039
sounding board for these kinds of ideas. I think I saw something to the

636
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:51.320
effect of, he's been litigated against
at least three thousand times. I get

637
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:55.199
the feeling that somebody who has been
that, that has had litigation against him

638
00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:00.920
that much, is usually going to
ignore lawyers advice. Yeah, it's just

639
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:07.199
part of his his um. It's
part of his world getting sued and getting

640
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.559
sued by these guys. And now
though it's it is you could look at

641
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:16.960
it as heroic because this is now
can be perceived by his fans as this

642
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:25.559
is UM election interference because they are
trying to put the nomination that the guy

643
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.199
who's going to be nominated to run
against the president. Uh, they're trying

644
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:36.000
to put him in jail so he
cannot win, and that to them is

645
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.880
election interference. So he's a martyr. So every time they do this to

646
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.920
him, not this, but every
time they do the other stuff to him,

647
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.400
like his files in his in his
house or whatever, he's a martyr.

648
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:54.880
He gets more money, he gets
more popular with the with the UM

649
00:48:55.159 --> 00:49:01.920
base, but it's also um exhausting
to people like me. I look at

650
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:07.440
the presidency of Trump, look at
it objectively. With President Trump and Biden,

651
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:08.960
I think he was way better.
It was way better. This is

652
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:14.639
the country is a disaster right now
according to me. But he's exhausting.

653
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.760
To me, I would like him
to go away. So and that's what

654
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.159
they're doing. I think to a
lot of it is they're trying to exhaust

655
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.800
people and make them go away.
Now is that? But to his people,

656
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:30.159
that's election inference, and it's it's
wearing people down instead of just saying,

657
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:32.599
hey, let's go to the ballot
box. If I was president Biden,

658
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:39.000
I would say, hey, all
this is nonsense. His files and

659
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.519
all the nights, I'm going to
pardon him, or just like, let's

660
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.199
let's not let's have an election.
Let's have a free and fair election,

661
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.760
and let's not put the guy in
jail. It's not it's just it's embarrassing.

662
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.800
But that's not going to happen.
And I'm not running, and no

663
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.119
one calls me. Well, if
I ever commit murder, I will soon

664
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.760
after announce my intention to run for
president for president of the United States,

665
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:05.639
so that I can avoid punishment.
Yeah, well, why not. They

666
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.000
worked for the Clintons Okay, Joe
Scolante, lie from Hollywood. We're gonna

667
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:10.960
take a break, check the traffic. We'll come back. And we got

668
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:21.920
some deep fake porno issues that we
got to talk about. Joe Scalante live

669
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:27.039
from Hollywood. As we speak,
I'm accepting an invitation to be on the

670
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.639
Petros and Money Show, Sam Excellent. That's June sixteenth, between three and

671
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:38.800
six pm in Orange County. They're
having a big, big broadcast in Irvine,

672
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:44.920
because Irvine is the place to be. We actually had them live at

673
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.679
my brother's brewery about two three months
ago. What's that place called again,

674
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:52.800
Mountain something, Tarantula Hill, Tarantula
Hill, Yeah, and I said it

675
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.440
was incredible. They do a great
live show. So people down in Irvine

676
00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:59.840
go and catch Petro some money and
if Joe's there by all means catch them

677
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.960
going to be great. Oh yeah. So, so they're gonna be somewhere.

678
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:08.639
I guess it's gonna be exciting.
Hanger twenty four Brewery. They like

679
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:12.679
breweries. Oh yeah, no,
they definitely hit up all the breweries around

680
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:16.039
town. Fiday afternoon at the brewery, Hanger twenty four, Hanger twenty five,

681
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:21.840
whatever it takes, I'll be there, Matt money Smith. I surf

682
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.480
with him out in the mornings and
Seal Beach. Nice. Yeah, let's

683
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.960
go out there. I can kind
of something. He's always there earlier than

684
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.000
me. I can see him on
the cam like the surf liing cam.

685
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.360
Sometimes I can pick him out.
I think that's I'm getting out there.

686
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.440
But he's always there first. He's
a real man. He surfs. I

687
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:44.159
catch a wave. This guy surfs. He's a pro. All right.

688
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:51.199
So let's talk about the uncomfortable business
of deep fake porno's porno imagery, which

689
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:57.280
is the plague, the new plague
coming down the pike. And um,

690
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:05.719
what's going on is people are taking
your image and they're creating a porno pornographic

691
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:12.159
material and they are sending it to
you or maybe like let's just say your

692
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:16.199
kid. Someone friends your kid and
they make a deep fake porno of your

693
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:21.800
kid engaging in a sex act and
it's there, it's your kid's face,

694
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.679
and they used it from getting images
that they got off your kids Instagram and

695
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.519
they made a version of your kid
and your kid is doing some things that

696
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:37.519
are disgusting and they tell the kid, if you don't give me some stuff

697
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:45.920
money, they extort them or they're
gonna you know, disseminated everywhere, and

698
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:47.199
they make the kids pay. I
mean, this is one of the things

699
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:52.480
that that's going on. They're making
kids pay in like gift cards and whatever

700
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:57.280
they think a kid can get to
not distribute that, And I think this

701
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.960
is something that we can't avoid really, So I think you've got to have

702
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:07.320
to take the power away from the
from the extortionist and just say, hey,

703
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.159
all right, that's awesome, that's
cool. Can I take it and

704
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:13.400
show it to all your friends and
your parents, put it on your own

705
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.239
site, say look, someone tried
to extort me. Because it's coming out

706
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.800
anyway, that's one way to handle
it. You're a professional in this world

707
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:25.280
with your PhD candidacy, What do
you think the solution is here? Oh

708
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:30.360
jeez that it's such a controversial and
ethically like, there's so many pitfalls that

709
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:36.239
can come with this. If it's
what do you think of my idea of

710
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.360
just go ahead and getting ahead of
you? Well, if you're a celebrity,

711
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:42.159
I could see that being something that
but if you're like a twelve year

712
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:46.079
old girl at Catholic school, absolutely
not. What do you do? Just

713
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:49.639
keep paying the money they're gonna Oh
well, this girl paid, so make

714
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.679
sure you destroy all copies of this
deep fake we made of her. Is

715
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:55.519
it considered child pornography? I say
yes, I don't care if it's fake

716
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.280
or not. It's child pornography.
Yeah. Well if that's the case,

717
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:01.320
if it is to be child pornography, which I would agree with you on

718
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:05.599
that it would, then it would
have to be subject to child porn laws.

719
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:09.159
So somebody has a deep fake porn
video of somebody who's underaged on their

720
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:13.519
phone, then it would have to
be subject to those same laws because those

721
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:19.239
a lot of times are images based
off of real people. Yeah. Yeah,

722
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.480
I mean I don't care if if
you get caught with fake kitty porn

723
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:29.599
or real kitty porn, it's still
the same. The laws are designed to

724
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:36.239
prevent the actions that take place and
the desires that that whips up in Chomo's

725
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:38.320
Yeah, well that's a prison for
child molester. I don't know if you

726
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:40.199
know that. Yeah, no,
I'm aware of the term. Yeah.

727
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:46.760
No, It's it's something where there's
gonna be views on both sides of it,

728
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:53.599
just because there's going to be advocates
for people who are maybe attracted to

729
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:57.400
miners but aren't going to act out
on it. Oh, so you think

730
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:02.719
maybe there's a there's a argument for
saying, let these people have the fake

731
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:06.679
stuff. It's not harming anyone,
but it keeps them from acting out,

732
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.320
and they're gonna I think they they're
gonna find it anyway, and then they'll

733
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:15.480
they'll they'll create a sex trafficking and
this could even reduce sex sex trafficking.

734
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.840
Those people would say, I think
people have made that argument. It's not

735
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:24.239
an argument I would agree with those
are perverts. Yeah, it's there's gonna

736
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:29.159
be arguments. That's so until the
laws are well defined on how to handle

737
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:32.320
this, there's gonna be arguments on
either side of it. Because at the

738
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:37.760
end of the day, it is
nobody actually getting harmed in the actual process,

739
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:44.559
nobody's physically getting exploited, and nothing
necessarily horrible is happening. However,

740
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:52.079
it's still promoting the existence of this
big problem. Yeah, it's not making

741
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:58.079
it go away. Yeah, And
I talked about it during the break for

742
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.440
I do a lot of mental health
work with people who were suicidal or people

743
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:07.440
who do cutting, and the one
of the possible, you know, ways

744
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.280
to help treat people who are cutters
is give them a red pen and instead

745
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:15.239
of cutting themselves, just draw the
red line on them. It doesn't necessarily

746
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:20.679
give them the same release from tension
that they have when they do the cutting,

747
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:24.280
but it's at least changing the behavior
to one that's full of harm to

748
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:30.360
one that has very very limited harm. It's harm reduction. However, it's

749
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:36.000
still replacing one behavior with another one
instead of addressing the root cause. So

750
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.400
those guys are making this stuff.
They're from, uh, you know,

751
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:45.880
some like East What's that fake country
that they made up for the all the

752
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:52.199
movies? Um? Which one?
Agrabad? I think we were talking about

753
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:58.519
a couple weeks ago. The universe, Um, the multiverse that has this

754
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.599
fake country that just keep popping up
in different movies. Oh, those uh

755
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:06.719
Agabod or whatever is um people are
making it there. We can't get to

756
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:08.719
them. Yeah, you know,
we can't use laws to get to them.

757
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:13.960
It's over the internet. What do
you do if you're if if you

758
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.119
get one of these, do you
pay them? I'm going to you,

759
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:21.840
Sam, and I'm asking you it
depends on do I pay them? I

760
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:22.639
go to you. Look, I
got this book. This is not me.

761
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:27.000
They would never do that. You
turn them in, turn them into

762
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:30.360
who they live an agabod. That's
if you try to turn these people in,

763
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:31.880
nothing's gonna happen. You can't go. What are you gonna walk into

764
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:36.639
a police precinct. They're not gonna
do anything. They're gonna tell you to

765
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.440
leave. They're gonna say, oh, you gotta um. We don't do

766
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:45.320
anything about that. That would be
fascinating. I don't know. You could.

767
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:46.599
If you have the money and it's
worth it to you to keep it

768
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:49.920
all under wraps, you pay it
off. If you don't have the money,

769
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.480
then you roll. You roll.
The dice. Part of me is

770
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:55.920
thinks that this happens to one person, then they get the money. It

771
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.639
happens, and pretty soon it happens
to everybody at the school. And then

772
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:01.840
after while everyone at the schools like, yeah, I saw mine, you

773
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:05.800
saw mine? Everyone saw that.
Okay, I can take right. Hey,

774
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:07.800
look I cut your picture out of
the yearbook and I put it on

775
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:14.239
a porn actress. U hahaha.
Everybody's seen it. Every knows. I

776
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:19.880
went to a like a the thing
called vert Virtus. This is a training

777
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:24.719
for Catechism teachers on Sat yesterday and
one of this I gotta sit through this

778
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:30.360
every ten years or something like that
because of the chomos um. They were

779
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:38.599
saying that the number one users of
pornos were kids between twelve and fifteen or

780
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:43.800
twelve and eighteen. That's where the
that's the number one user customer of or

781
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:49.960
pornography or user or viewer of pornography
on phones on the internet is kids between

782
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.559
twelve and eighteen. So I'm saying, these kids have already seen these images,

783
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:57.159
and they've seen their friends face,
they seen the images. It's almost

784
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.360
like you say, all right,
go ahead, show it everywhere. I'm

785
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.079
not paying you because you're you're gonna
show it anyway. And then everybody's sharing

786
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:07.159
the risk because everybody's gonna have to
suffer from this. So maybe there's an

787
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:10.719
argument to just say go ahead,
I don't care. The herd immunity argument,

788
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:14.480
Yeah, the herd immunity. Yeah, yeah, all right. Joe'scolante

789
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:19.320
live from Hollywood. Are you back
after this? Okay? Joe Wescalante live

790
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.880
from Hollywood by Hollywood? You mean
Burbank case, Sam, You've got Mike

791
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:24.679
number three still on? Does that
mean? Yeah? That's on my end?

792
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:30.000
Have to unstick the button, all
right, unstick that button. We

793
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:38.239
are iHeartMedia. We are here every
Sunday from five to seven with the business

794
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:45.920
end of show business, the business
affairs of Hollywood. Now, Sam,

795
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:54.159
are you familiar with the band Ramstein? Yeah? Yeah do host host host

796
00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:01.320
um so Ramstein. They're from East
Berlin. I think East Germany. They

797
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:07.880
were rocking before the wall came down. I believe, outstanding band of crazy

798
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:10.199
band. Yeah, and they just
phillip stadiums all over the world. They're

799
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:17.960
doing four nights at the Olympic the
Munich like Olympic Stadium where I think we're

800
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:22.000
like where it's gotta be where?
Yeah, where Hitler? And I had

801
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:30.480
to watch Jesse Owens wipe the floor
with his uber team. Ah. Well,

802
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.960
he's in a little trouble this singer
of of Raemstein. Was he unable

803
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:43.039
to remove the duct tape this time? Something like that? It's pictured this

804
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:49.639
this, This is the accusation.
This man sings for a rock band that

805
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:54.840
sells out stadiums four nights in a
row, more popular than Hitler, probably

806
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:58.719
because how many how many could Hitler
do four in a row? Maybe not

807
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:02.960
maybe two? Read the most He
wouldn't sell out LA, that's for sure.

808
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:10.880
No, no, no no.
Evidently he picks out attractive women and

809
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:16.159
tries to have sex with them in
a rock band. The singer of a

810
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:20.280
rock band. Have you ever heard
such a thing? I thought that was

811
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:24.519
like part of the appeal, like
I want to be a rock star so

812
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:29.840
that I can find beautiful women and
do that. Yeah, And they call

813
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:34.119
it it's a special section that the
girls are invited into called Row zero.

814
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:39.239
You have your first row and you
have Row zero, and there's like a

815
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:44.679
casting lady that kind of goes out
and finds the women and they sit in

816
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:50.280
Row zero, and then they come
to exclusive after parties, and evidently the

817
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.760
singers express his interest in having sex
with them. It comes to the surprise

818
01:01:53.800 --> 01:02:00.960
to all these women who thought they
were going backstage to discuss Chairman High German

819
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:08.239
Grammar and the great stand up comedy
that comes out of the Wagner Festival.

820
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:14.480
Um. So, on the one
hand, you're like, just want a

821
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:15.840
pervert this guy. But you're like, on the other hand, you're like,

822
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:19.079
what do you want? This is
what I was wondering what was going

823
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:21.800
to happen when the me Too got
into rock and roll? Because this is

824
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:23.519
rock and roll. It's not the
part of rock and roll I'm in.

825
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:29.880
I don't like it. This is
like the punk rock is PC. There's

826
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:34.360
very little misogyny. There's no misogyny
tolerated. There's a lot of misogyny in

827
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:39.800
the early UM records, you know, from bands like um, maybe the

828
01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:45.079
Rotters I'm thinking of where they had
this song called them about Steve Stevie Nicks

829
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:47.639
and all these things they want to
do to her. Some early Vandals music

830
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:53.800
that I had to pull off of
our releases that were misogynistic or a misogynistum

831
01:02:54.119 --> 01:03:02.480
from our old singer that would write
misogynist songs, and I pulled them and

832
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:05.400
uh and but they're out there.
You know. It's like it's not a

833
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:08.960
lot you can do about it because
of the Internet and everything. But UM,

834
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:13.159
in general, this is you know, it's like the Van Halen world,

835
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:15.559
like Babes and backstage, I guess
what, we got two flavors of

836
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:19.559
ice cream where you have this and
we have bubble gum and we're a fresh

837
01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:23.559
out of bubblegum, and you know
what this is? UM. So that's

838
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:28.920
UM. So this has come to
rock and roll, and I think rock

839
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.800
and roll is kind of beyond this. Now, you know, who are

840
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:36.119
the popular rock bands, Well,
let me tell you the Food Fighters.

841
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:39.599
I just did a play our hang
out with them for two shows in a

842
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:45.400
row. These are married people with
kids. There's no backstage betties. Uh

843
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:49.079
that so, but the kind of
goes back to the Germans. There a

844
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:53.280
little behind, and if you're from
East Germany, you're really behind. So

845
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:58.119
this guy's you know, just getting
into hey, uh, why don't you

846
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:02.320
When I play, I will pick
out foxy ladies and you would they would

847
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:05.440
be you know, I would meet
with them backstage and then I will have

848
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:14.679
meet with them and that's the that's
the Uh. They're they're just now,

849
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:15.920
you know, kind of they're still
in it. They're still doing this.

850
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:25.199
So this guy is being um pounded
now because the women are saying, uh,

851
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.239
you know, I went, I
woke up sore. I think I

852
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:35.039
was drugged. Nothing is There's been
no umuh criminal filings. It's just women

853
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:41.079
are making statements and saying, you
know, I had an account with the

854
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:45.559
band prior to the show in Vilnius, Lithuania. This is just last May,

855
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:48.840
which led me to believe that my
drink may have been spiked. Doing

856
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:55.840
the pre party allege that I was
brought into a room under the stage.

857
01:04:56.320 --> 01:05:00.800
I was joined by mister Lindeman to
his name Till Lindeman, no relation to

858
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.280
Ricky Lindemann from my bodyguard. And
when I said I would not have sex

859
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:11.079
with him, he became angry.
But then she later posted on May thirtieth,

860
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:14.679
he did not touch her. He
accepted. I didn't want to have

861
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:17.039
these six with him, and he
never I never claim he ripped me.

862
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:26.400
Um, but this is um.
It looks like he's just it just kind

863
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:30.599
of just recruiting girls to possibly have
sex with because that's what rock and roll

864
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:33.960
singers used to do and they're still
doing it in East Germany. But he

865
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:38.840
didn't do anything. He accepted,
He accepted when she said no, yes,

866
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:44.039
I'm not seeing the problem and otherwise
other other than like possibly be having

867
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:46.840
the drink spiked. Yeah, like
that's that's crossing over into kind of Bill

868
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:50.320
Cosby ish kind of stuff. Yeah, but the and that's as creepy as

869
01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:54.559
it gets. But at the same
time, yeah, she's like, if

870
01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:57.840
he didn't touch you, first of
all, did he spike your drink?

871
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:01.920
First of all, you'll be spiking
people's drinks anymore. Like you know,

872
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:05.440
Bill Cosby, it's hard to believe
it. Like it didn't the If you're

873
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:09.679
the singer of a guy that sells
out four stadiums and you're and you're spiking

874
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:14.760
drinks um to have your way with
women, something's terribly wrong. Um,

875
01:06:14.840 --> 01:06:16.559
you don't have to do that.
And it's like, oh, let me,

876
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:19.079
he's not a bad looking guy.
Let me spike your drinks so I

877
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:24.079
will have a better chance at having
relations with you. Will you have relations

878
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:28.599
with me? No? I'm okay, I'm angry. I'm angry, but

879
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:30.840
I am not going to rape you. But I did spike your drink.

880
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.159
I mean, like, what do
you want? What do you? Rock

881
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:39.360
and roll tours are hard enough to
be dragging around uh zombified drugged women.

882
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.840
But you know, anything could happen. Bill Cosby did it. Um,

883
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:45.800
if there's a credible report, we
must believe it. Right. Most believes

884
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.360
that women. Um, but listen, when we believes in women, she

885
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.639
said she does not have the sex. But this is a big problem for

886
01:06:51.880 --> 01:07:01.800
z singer of z Ramstein Um and
du hast heard it here first. I

887
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:06.960
failed to see the problem here.
He recruited them to have sex. They

888
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:12.159
didn't want to have sex. He
said, okay, that's not recruiting them.

889
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:16.840
Then they didn't do anything I thinks
is of ro Zero. I think

890
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:21.079
the scandal is they have a Rozero. I would like to see which other

891
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:25.719
bands from the you know, like
that era had the same kind of thing.

892
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.840
I know that there are bands like
the Foo Fighters that are very much

893
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.480
like you know, family people.
They're very family people and their concerts are

894
01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:33.719
very family friendly. And you know, you know, this is an old

895
01:07:33.719 --> 01:07:36.320
thing. Yeah, this is from
a bygone era. Yeah, but that

896
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:40.440
but I'm telling you that it hasn't
gone out of style in Germany. And

897
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:49.960
like many things like Ze haircuts and
Ze tiny shorts. So um uh now,

898
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:59.840
um that's fascinating. I'm still I'm
still reeling from that. He you

899
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:01.840
usually you hear it. Oh he
spiked my drink and then he took advantage

900
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:04.159
of me. He spiked my drink, and then when I said no,

901
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:10.360
he was like, okay, great. I failed to see the problem there.

902
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.719
He was very respectful if he was
the one that spiked or drink,

903
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:15.840
he respected her feelings. Afterwards,
I doubt he was the one that spiked

904
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:19.319
or drink. If her drink was
spiked. I don't think anyone's I mean,

905
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:24.119
I'm just gonna I believe that it
was. I just don't. But

906
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.520
that's the outcome you want to have
if your drink is spiked. A guy

907
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:30.640
saying no, I will not take
advantage of you. No, I will

908
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:36.199
not exploit you. But the zingup
became angry. Ah, he accepted it.

909
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:40.439
I know what top was this sex
with him? Anyway? All right,

910
01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:44.079
let's move on to speaking of music. Do you know music? You

911
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:49.960
know it's blowing up. I've heard
I'm reading this in this story um on

912
01:08:50.000 --> 01:09:00.000
the internets. Mexican music, really
Mexican music blowing up and h the Mexican

913
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:02.439
in concerts. I've been I've been
contacted by two people in Mexico to be

914
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:08.560
like, like help facilitate some music
stuff going on in Mexico. And the

915
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:14.239
shows are like like fifty five thousand
seat stadiums, black pink selling them out,

916
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:16.920
multa nights, multi nights, and
just just international music. But the

917
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:21.760
Mexican music, the regional Mexican actually
is like the hottest thing right now.

918
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:30.399
And the of course the reggaetneum the
so you know, watch out if you're

919
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:39.760
cool, you know bands like Bad
Bunny and Paso Pluma and uh Jay Balvin.

920
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:45.000
This is the this is what your
kids are. It was K pop.

921
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:48.560
Now it's Mexican, Mexican whatever.
All right, you heard it here,

922
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:54.119
dustood it here? Fussed? Uh
let us takes a break and checks

923
01:09:54.119 --> 01:10:00.000
it traffic and return with more of
the same scenes. All right, joe

924
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.960
'scalante right here every Sunday from five
to seven with the business end of show

925
01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:10.600
Business KiB fifteen yr AM dial.
You're cool if you're listening to AM radio

926
01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:15.199
right now. They're my tesla doesn't
have AM radio and they're trying to take

927
01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.800
AM radio out of a lot of
cars. As you know, Sam,

928
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:25.359
but you have to write your congressman
and tell them we need AM radios in

929
01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:30.159
the cars. AM radio is free
and can be a place where you go

930
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:33.119
to in emergencies when you get you
know, you wind up your your radio

931
01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:38.479
that you bought on on TV late
at night. That says this radio is

932
01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:41.800
gonna work. By just winding up
in an emergency, you're gonna be able

933
01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:48.359
to communicate with people like Sam and
Joe with our iHeart radio access cards to

934
01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:54.039
come and broadcast. In this case
of an emergency. Sam and I both

935
01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:57.479
have these cards. What are they
saying? One of my favorite things I

936
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:01.640
have about doing radio. iHeart media
or agency response team. I'm a critical

937
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:04.800
operations employee. Sam, I believe
you are too. Yes, I am.

938
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:09.279
I have that in my wallet.
Yeah, so let me fut,

939
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:12.239
let me through, officer. Yeah, I must get to the airwaves.

940
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:16.479
I'm allowed to speed. This card
says, so I'm I'm due on the

941
01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:21.880
airwaves. The aliens are coming.
Have you Have you seen the alien guy

942
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:28.159
that's running around the whistleblowers saying that
the government has alien technology and they've been

943
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:30.560
hiding it. I agree with them, Okay, Yeah, I don't know.

944
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:34.159
You know, I don't know.
I mean the proof is out there.

945
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:42.359
Yeah, we are not alone.
I've seen it, so I don't

946
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:47.039
know. Oh, here's some news
for you, some housekeeping. Joeiscalante.

947
01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:55.640
We'll be appearing July twenty first,
twenty second, and twenty third at the

948
01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:59.000
Punk Rock Museum in Las Vegas,
doing tours, two tours a day,

949
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:04.960
twelve o'clock and two thirty. It
was very successful last time, so I'm

950
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:09.920
coming back. And if you've thought
about going to the Punk Rock Museum July

951
01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:15.000
twentieth to the twenty third. That's
when I'll be there, and so far,

952
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:17.880
just a lot of satisfied customers.
I go through the whole exhibit.

953
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:25.199
I tell you, you know,
I got into punk rock about nineteen seventy

954
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:30.079
eight, and punk rock started in
nineteen seventy seven. Basically, you can

955
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:32.640
there's a lot of pre punk rock
stuff like New York Dolls. But anyway,

956
01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:38.399
and I'm still in it. I'm
still playing, you know, big

957
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:42.640
festivals with all the punk bands.
So it's one of those things where the

958
01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.720
older people are more valued. That's
why I like it. You can get

959
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:50.000
Pete Wentz out there from Fallout Boy, and he's a pretty pretty guy and

960
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:56.239
he's super cool, but what does
he know about the old days? He's

961
01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:58.359
going to pay to be on my
tour, is what's going to happen.

962
01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:00.000
Anyway. They have a lot of
tours like that. You have younger people,

963
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.640
older people, but in this in
this case most of the older guys,

964
01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:06.279
we're doing pretty good. It seems
like one of the best, the

965
01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:12.039
best selling or like Greg Hudson from
The Circle, Jerks and Bad Religion and

966
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:15.239
H. CJ. Ramon, So
it's I got, you know, still

967
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:21.079
living Ramon and he's like sold out
tours and mine are due. Mine pretty

968
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:26.000
damn good. So I'm definitely coming
out for that one. I'm thinking that

969
01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:29.159
July one would be a good opportunity
for me. I would love to see

970
01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:36.119
you there. Uh you know what
Adidas would love to see I know the

971
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:40.399
story, Please go ahead. Yeah, they're stuck with one point three billion

972
01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:46.159
dollars worth of unsold Yeasy shoes after
Kanye, you know, started getting all

973
01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:53.279
anti Semitici and they don't know what
to do. Um, So aren't they

974
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:57.960
just going to start selling them just
without the Yeasy brand? Uh? Yeah,

975
01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:00.800
I mean it seems like you could
just take the brand off and sell

976
01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:05.880
them to children in Nigeria for you
know, two dollars a pair. Yeah.

977
01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:09.680
I mean, if you take that
name off of it, you got

978
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:13.960
you got some ugly ass Adidas.
I mean, and there's some really nice

979
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.319
Adidas out there. Those are yeah, ugly ass shoes. Yeah. I

980
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:23.199
wear almost exclusively Adidas, and I
wouldn't wear these things. I've just heard

981
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:28.079
the greatest story about Kanye last week. I can't really tell. Oh,

982
01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:30.520
I can't wait until I turn off
Mike. I'm asking what the story is.

983
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:36.960
Yeah, Oh yeah, I had
there's some Hollywood news. I had

984
01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:42.720
lunch at the Bungalows and Samva Sente. This is a private restaurant, and

985
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:45.439
it's interesting because if someone I'm not
a member, but I was invited and

986
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:50.199
had lunch some heavy hitters, of
course. And when you get there and

987
01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:54.039
you check in, they take your
phone and they don't take it like you're

988
01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:56.880
at a tool concert or something and
they're gonna put it in a bag or

989
01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:59.960
something like that. They just put
a little sticker on it on the front

990
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:02.439
lens in the back lens. They
have two sizes of stickers, one big

991
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:05.520
one for your front lens and a
small one for your back lens. And

992
01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:09.279
they go, I'm just gonna put
that on there for you so you don't

993
01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:13.960
take pictures. Let me take you
to your seat. And I was like,

994
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:17.199
yeah, I'm all about it.
Let's not. I assume she was

995
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:21.880
doing that to protect me from people
taking pictures of me. And then you

996
01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:26.720
know, yeah, I played along
and had stickers put on my phone,

997
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:32.640
So it's like, why not,
It's only fair. But yeah, amazing

998
01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:38.720
food, amazing. I've only had
my phone taken from me for privacy reasons

999
01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:42.880
one time, and that was at
the Situation Room at the White House.

1000
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.039
Oh really Yeah, yeah, they
have a little locker that you can that

1001
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:47.680
Like, they take your phone,
they put it in the lockers. So

1002
01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:53.119
I went to a private restaurant in
Hollywood, but you went to the Situation

1003
01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:55.439
Room or the White House. Yeah
all right. Well do you know anything

1004
01:15:55.479 --> 01:16:01.760
about not trying to over one up
the host? Oh dude, I'd rather

1005
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:04.079
do it, I know. Do
you know about this rule? I thought

1006
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:08.039
your story was way better than mine. Miners, like, they just put

1007
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.560
it in a lock box. That's
about it. You got to be like

1008
01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:18.319
hobnobbing with the ploy of Hollywood.
It. Um, So if anyone invites

1009
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:21.880
you to go to the bungalows,
you gotta go. Uh. Let's see.

1010
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:25.279
Okay, So any writer strike stuff
we want to end with. Um

1011
01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:31.039
uh. There was a guy,
a producer, UM's accused of threatening striking

1012
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:36.680
writers with his vehicle. So there
they already on strike. Yeah they're striking.

1013
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:39.680
Yeah, but he's got a vehicle
and he's going to run over him.

1014
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:42.079
Oh I thought you said he was
going to strike them with his vehicle.

1015
01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:45.239
Now. The alleged incident occurred Thursday
afternoon in Georgia, where BMF,

1016
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.840
as in Black Mafia Family, was
in production on the third season of the

1017
01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:53.640
series, based on the lives of
two brothers who founded an influential crime organization

1018
01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:59.680
in nineteen eighties. Detroit writer Brian
Egiston, who documented the alleged incident on

1019
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:04.039
Twitter, claims BMF's Ian Wolf sped
toward him and other writers in his suv

1020
01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:09.760
and stopped short in what he dubbed
as an intimidation tactic. As I marched

1021
01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:14.199
with you with my brothers at the
WGA and peaceful protests, similar to the

1022
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:18.159
giants who have walked the very streets
where you almost committed manslaughter. You chose

1023
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:23.840
to, in your own words,
try to scare you, Egiston wrote as

1024
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:27.640
part of a thread of the alleged
incident, describing himself as a hero.

1025
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.520
Anyways, all right, so that's
what's going on. Be careful if you

1026
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:41.279
go on strike because you could get
run over. Right, That's not an

1027
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:45.079
outcome I'd like to see. No, But for most of the part,

1028
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:47.479
these these strikes, they've been pretty
much of a party. Wheezer went down

1029
01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:54.399
and played a couple other people have
gone and entertained the writers. But it

1030
01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:59.119
looks at the directors made a deal. So the writers might have to wrap

1031
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:02.319
up their deal in the next um
forty five days, I would say the

1032
01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:05.399
most and the But the actors,
I think they're a wild card. They

1033
01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:09.640
are voting to strike. I don't
know what the final tally was, but

1034
01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:12.520
they're going to go on strike.
And there here's the difference between the actors

1035
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:15.000
and the and the other ones.
The actors the Screen Actors Guild. I

1036
01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:16.760
know we gotta go, but I'll
just say this. The Screen Actors Guild

1037
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:20.239
is filled with people who don't act
and don't work at all, and but

1038
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:26.960
the idea of striking and like the
you know, the twentieth century socialist art

1039
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:30.439
that can go along with your with
that, it seems it's romantic to them.

1040
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:36.279
So they they might strike over anything. So we'll see what happens.

1041
01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:40.199
If you might. Um, are
you in the Screen Actors Guild, this

1042
01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:43.239
is your chance, That's what I'm
saying. Okay, Joe's gonna say live

1043
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:46.920
from Hollywood, Uh, see you
next time. And now I'll leave you

1044
01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:48.680
with just a taste of the greatest
song You've ever written.

