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The podcast gets broadcast here on ocelly
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way, they're gonna split the hours
this week. And I guess Uncle's gonna

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take calls, but Aaron is still
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planned guest as well. I don't
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just make sure to facilitate the show. I'm not in charge of anything my

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hosts do or say, so that's
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anybody, apparely myself most of the
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got a child that doesn't listen to
me. And if you haven't met missus,

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O guess what. Anyway, it
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I'm trying to stay in good spirits. I hope you are two and look

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with the way the world is.
What else can you do? Three one

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six that's the number to join us?

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And by us, what do I
mean myself and my co host b Pete?

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How are you doing this week?
Be Pete? Am doing pretty good.

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Another busy look, but uh looking
forward to this weekend. Of yard

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work and playing outside. So what's
gonna be a dood? Well, that

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is if your yard isn't flooded.
You're experiencing the rain that we got pummeled

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with here for a couple of days. Uh, real helpful for my back,

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all that dampness and everything. But
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do? Uh? Subtropical or tropical
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and what we used to call America, so is what it is. But

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is the rain hitting you hard?
You got thunderstorms or is it just kind

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of raining a lot? Yeah,
we just had just had a huge back.

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So well, a lot of thunderstorms
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In the afternoons when he gets hot, we've been up an over ninety degrees.

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Good, you moved through it,
dunk. Quite a bit of rain

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washed away a lot of pollen and
dust, and so those of us been

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suffering in the spring time can bring
it a little easier for the next couple

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of days. But the nice thing
is it drops twenty degrees. It's only

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going to be seventy one tomorrow,
so we go back to spring. That's

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a funny thing about North Carolina and
you experience three seasons worth of weather in

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one day. Yeah, and over
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back and forth between a lot of
different things. Happens in Georgia too,

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and some people in other parts of
the country are not familiar with the concept

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of the ten minute superstorm either.
You know where it's like you're getting buckets

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of water dumped on your head for
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about a whole ten minutes, and
then it clears up and literally like the

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sun comes out the next thing.
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two more and you might get more
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sometimes. You know, it's funny. When I was in the middle of

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Europe, the first thunder when I
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eighties. The first thunder storm that
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time, during a snowstorm where you
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in the southeast section of the US
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comes out of Texas picks up all
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it makes the turn, and all
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know, differential between Mari Coole there
and generates tornadoes and thunderstorms, some pretty

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severe storms at times, But over
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the storm system, so when you
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stays cloudy. We given color of
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It seemed like it stayed out for
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actual first thunderstorm was in the middle
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in Switzerland as well. You only
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winter time. You didn't have this. You might have a shower move through

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in the summer, but nothing like
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Right. Hey, look, you
might want to actively mute a bit B

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Pete because your signal is going inconsistent, inconsistent, So what might happen is

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you'll build up your compression a little
bit and have more clear speaking times if

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you mute in between. Sorry to
do that to you, but again it's

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the weather interfering with B Pete's signal, So it is what it is,

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and hopefully you'll be able to remain
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not stuck at work this week.
I kind of felt bad for you with

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those. I hated trying to do
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Some of my very first radio interviews
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at least in the conspiracy genre.
As a musician, it was a lot

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more fun. I actually went to
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do stuff via phone, I mean
literally half of a place that I was

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working in was demolished. I was
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James Corbett the first time he had
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to do a thing on Lee Harvey
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week in the podcast too. I
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I don't know if anybody noticed,
but on the feed today we got

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the archivist who was a requested guest
for the May Brussel Research Library. The

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archivist was on with me, and
earlier we had Albert Lanier. He's starting

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yet another sub stack, so this
time he's doing a final cut film reviews,

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retro film reviews, and he thinks
that look, there's a lot of

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people out there just spitting opinions,
but they're not real film reviewers. So

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he's gonna do it his way and
talk to him on Wednesday. And let's

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see who else did I speak to
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Hornberger. And you know, I
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the show regarding the Kennedy stuff.
But you know what, I'm gonna start

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doing that a little more. Let's
see what we do when we examine these

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opposing points of view. Is there
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though I disagree with him that the
you know, the Zapruter film is a

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complete fabrication. I'm not entirely on
the side of Doug horn obviously with all

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that. But there are some oddities
there. There's some strange things that happen

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regarding the film that are unanswered by
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are laid out there. It is
a weird thing. But do I think

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the Zapruter film is a fabrication?
Know? And you know, I got

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my reasons, and we'll explore all
that and there may be a big feature

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actually at the Lancer conference this year
regarding the legitimacy of the Zubruter film and

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maybe even some live debates, which
ought to be interesting because I'm also getting

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ready to participate in that, and
I did post in the chat room the

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thing about if you want a ten
percent discount on tickets, either online or

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in person, there will be a
code. Now, the landing page is

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not ready yet, but the landing
page, as soon as it's prepared,

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you'll be able to sign up and
get a discount. I think it's Ocelly

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ten is the discount code to get
ten percent off on your tickets. Let

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me double check that. Yeah,
Ocelly ten. We'll receive ten percent off

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of the whole order whatever it is, your order from JFK Lancer, you

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know, whether it's tickets or the
in person conference or whatever. You know,

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your lanyard and your name tag,
all that stuff coming in the package.

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Yeah, ten percent off. So
why not if I can get you

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ten percent off do it? Anyways, there's that all going on, and

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that conference is still being planned and
as of now I'm scheduled to be there.

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Is the MC again ought to be
interesting. I look forward to it

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if it all does come to fruition. And I'm trying to invite some unique

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individuals that maybe have never been to
the Lancer conference before. So let's see

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if I can really mix it up
anyway. We'll see how it goes.

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Maybe I'll get myself uninvited from now
on. Who knows, who knows what

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will happen next, right, So
stay tuned to that, and like I

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said, the Landing pay you'll be
available shortly. Anyways, Aside from that,

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what went on in the news this
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if you're CNN or you're somebody who
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to what sort of news you seek. Nothing happened outside of Stormy Daniels,

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right, Trump in the description of
him getting smacked on the ass with a

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magazine I think that was the was
that the revelation this week or last week?

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It's all becoming a massive blur to
me. Does any of this matter?

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No, is this going to change
the outcome of the selection. No

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other odd things happening though. You
know, Biden made a declaration regarding Israel

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and if they invade one particular territory
or whatever, Biden said that he might

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cut off some aid to them or
something. And the Republicans utilizing guess what

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the precedent set by the failed impeachment
attempt of Donald Trump to impeach him over

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the whole Ukraine thing. Say,
well, you know what, we should

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impeach Biden over this. And so
there's been a couple of public statements saying

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that they're going to try and impeach
Biden over this, and I'm sure there'll

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be about five or six other attempts
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that amount to anything? Uh,
there's the ultimate question in my mind.

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But if you want to get away
from politics, is there anything else happening

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in the world. Is there anything
happening in your world you'd like to talk

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about. I say you join us
three one nine, five two seven,

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five zero one six. That's the
number to call. And I absolutely welcome

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any topic of discussion you have on
your mind, especially if it's relevant to

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the rest of us in the world. But hell, if you want to

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get on here and tell a personal
story, I'm willing to sit back and

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listen. I'm sure b Pete would
take a listen. Maybe we'll join in

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and comment on your latest debacle in
your love life? How about that?

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Are you having financial trouble? You
know they're telling us the economy is improving

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all over the place, right,
everything's getting better. Do you know where

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that is, guys? Because I
need to move soon and I want to

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move to wherever it's working because it's
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in personal news, well, yeah, I'm not going to go there right

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now, but who knows, maybe
i'll have some personal things to report as

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of next week and and all that
good stuff. Also, I'm looking to

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take suggestions for stuff that you want
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did talk to the May Brussel Library
people this week, it could be that

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I could start running regular rebroadcasts of
May Brussel if you like. But I

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don't know if you guys want to
hear that. Yes, some of it

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is dated, some of it is
very interesting, especially when she was reporting

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on things that were occurring at the
time with no Internet right, just her

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correspondence, her own research, and
her own open source intelligence. I've always

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found May Brussel fascinating and quite honestly, if you say about it, when

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it comes to alternative radio and podcasting
and all that. Before there was a

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podcast, before there was online radio, before there was a Bill Cooper.

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Nineteen seventy one, May Brussel started
broadcasting, and then she figured out a

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way to distribute it, you know, analog style on cassette tapes. So

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I'm just saying, and I got
a yes on the May Brussel archives in

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the chatroom right now, which,
by the way, we do have a

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live chatroom at Ocelli dot com.
So if you're listening to us on your

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phones or your iPads or whatever,
if you are not on the Ocelli dot

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com page, you can go there
and just click on the chat Tango chat

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room, which is very basic,
and get in on it and make text

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comments during the show if you like, and join in the fun that way

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if you don't want to call in. But again, that number three one

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nine five two seven five zero one
six. I'm getting tired of repeating it,

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and I think sometimes I wake up
saying it because I repeated so many

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times on a Friday night. But
anyway, BP, is there any key

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things that caught your attention in the
news this week? I mean, I'm

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bored to death with the Donald Trump
trial and every day they go, you

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know, blow by blow and everything
and reporting on every little piece of minutia

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allegedly all the testimony. Oh my
god, it's controversial. And now Trump's

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going to come out and make his
end of the day's statement, which every

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day is this is a witch hunt, this is nonsense. Well, and

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that's it, and you know,
ridictable. We had one conspiracy theory that

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was blown out of the blown out
of the water. That was the Stormy

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Daniel supposedly spank Trump with a copy
of Forbes magazine. Oh and it was

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the one that had Trump and I
think Trump and Avanka? Was it Avankas?

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Anyway, it was him his wife's
kid on the cover. But Forbes

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has come out and said no,
that cover didn't come out until a couple

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of months after supposedly Stormy and Trump
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charity golf a bit so Oh that
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connected to the Trump trials, right, because what's her name? Had a

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dressed that she was supposedly wearing when
she was assaulted by him that wasn't released

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yet, right or am I forgetting
something? Okay? So yeah, what's

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her name? The one that got
all the money? Yes, supposedly it

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had happened wearing a dress that hadn't
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Carol. Yeah, and here we
go, Mandela effect, right, why

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not in another time. It's funny, though, we're just looking at the

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NewsCap of what is going on in
each trial we did. We did find

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out some interesting things about the document
trial down in Florida. Apparently the FBI

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likes to take props with them when
they go busting into somebody's place after they

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left town, and they take with
them their own confidential and secret and secret

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cover sheets and they go find your
stuff, and they take a few pages

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and spread it out on the floor
and then put the cover seats all over

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the place and take pictures and say, see what we found. Well,

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the judge found out that that's not
quite the case, and apparently the FBI

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has been screwed with the evidence in
that case. So it's been put on

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hold indefinitely until the judge can sort
out a few things and possibly toss this

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one. It's just funny, you
know. So you rely on the FBI,

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and everybody knows by now that the
FBI is one of the least trusted

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organizations of all the three letter departments
our government. Has working. It's amazing.

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I don't know if they're the least
trustworthy. I mean, they got

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a lot of competition, and and
and you know, it's kind of funny

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because somebody bearing a striking and resemblance
to myself had said many times in the

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past few months. As we do
approach the year of the lawsuit, remember

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I told you, and we decided
it would be the year of the lawsuit.

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Maybe be Pete originated that phrase.
I don't know, maybe somebody else

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did, but somebody on this show
on a Friday night originated that phrase,

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and I absolutely agree with it.
I concur So we're dealing with the year

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of the lawsuit that's happening, and
guess what, They're all going to fall

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apart. Everything is falling apart,
the case in Georgia, falling apart the

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case. And I'm being told it
was you that originated at be Pete's so

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full credit where it's deserved. The
year of the lawsuit the phrase originated by

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b Pete on this show. But
here we go, it's all going to

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fall apart, right, the Georgia
case because the chick hires her boyfriend.

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She's got a grudge. Okay,
in New York. They fabricated stuff,

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rewound stuff, massaged the statutes in
order to get the thing rolling in the

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first place, and then we're going
through all this stuff to make sure we

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get Salatia's details again. I still
find it hilarious that not only was the

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spanking pointed out, but the whole
you know, you remind me of my

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daughter kind of thing that was put
back. I mean, it's like it's

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just is this stuff all on replay? I mean, do they have no

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new material? I guess not.
But all this stuff is going to collapse,

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That's all I'm saying. I do
have a question, though. You

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know, it's funny that we had
Stormy Daniels on the stand for two days

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in the New York case, and
you know, I'm still trying to figure

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out how putting a porn actress that
apparently got paid one hundred and thirty thousand

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dollars for a one night's stand,
which is if you go by the standard

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of her business, where you get
paid per action that you participate in.

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To participate in, you know,
the price goes up if you do one

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thing. We give you five hundred
for this film, you do this and

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this, we'll give you a thousand, you add that up, it might

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get up twenty five hundred bucks a
film. And then you know, we

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don't know what kind of agreement you've
got for marketing and all that. You're

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getting a cut on every unit that
goes out the door. But in this

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case, she got paid one hundred
and thirty foul after the fact and was

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still shopping her story around. I'd
be curious to know how much she actually

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made off this story over Trump,
because you know she did when Trump got

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elected, suddenly she was back in
the game. I mean, Trump was

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so good on unemployment, he put
Stormy Daniels back to work. Got to

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give him credit there. Well,
I'm just curious to know how much she

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made off this whole plane. Has
she received any money from anyone else?

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Since the non disclosure agreement never was
in effect, she still got the one

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hundred and thirty thousand offering. I'm
just curious to know how much she's made

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total off this deal. Well,
I don't know, because she now owes

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him either a quarter million or a
half million dollars in legal fees because she

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was assigned that penalty during another proceeding. And in addition to that, let's

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not forget Michael Abanati. So do
we know that she actually received the money,

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because you know how it goes with
these lawyers. She he might have

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just stolen the money. And so
maybe Abanati got paid as opposed to her.

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I don't know, you know,
but her continuing to hustle. What

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are you gonna do? And I
don't know anything about the porno payscale,

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but maybe we can explore that in
the future show. Meanwhile, I do

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have a caller, and let's see. Oh, okay, I just want

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to I'm leaning over to get the
area code nine one six area code.

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So I'm gonna go to that caller
and see what we get. And anybody

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else who wants to join us three
one nine five two seven five zero one

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six. Maybe they want to talk
Stormy Daniels. Maybe maybe, Oh,

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I'll tell you what. Let me
ask this question right away, So call

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her. Do you know anything about
the porno pays scale? No? No,

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okay, I just heyd took a
shot. I try to stay with

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it from porn as far as I
can. In the in the chat room,

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they say to me that the nine
one six area code of Sacramento.

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All right, Well, I guess
so, uh it is? That is?

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That is my birthplace. It was
raised just south of Sacramento. All

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right, so this is Danny,
right, this is Danny yep right,

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Well, so Danny, I that
was a joke question at the beginning.

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I mean, obviously you could talk
about well, but but if somebody does

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listen, if somebody doesn't know the
porno pascale, please call in let me

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know, because I've only ever known
one person that worked in porno, and

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I know that they weren't, you
know, at the uh, they weren't

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at the upper echelon or the middle
class of it either, but they were

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a pro and they did get paid, but it was nothing like uh,

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I don't think it was the kind
of money that Stephanie whatever her name is,

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stormy there. I'm sure it never
reached that level. But I do

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know just what that one person ever
got paid. But if somebody knows how

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that works, give us call and
tell us. Educate us, let us

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know how it work. This is
hilarious. I just google porn pay scale,

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okay, and the first thing that
comes up is our famous ZIP recruiter.

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Now you've heard the ads, You've
seen the ads on the online that

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Grudo Zipprecruiter does a pretty good job
of placing people with employers looking for people,

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and they have of their site salaries
porn Star. As of May third,

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twenty twenty four, the average hourly
pay for a porn star in the

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United States is twenty one ninety four
an hour. Wow. Zip Recruiter is

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seen hourly wages as high as thirty
one seventy three and as low as eleven

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fifty four. The majority of porn
star wages currently ranged between seventeen thirty one

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to twenty six forty four across the
United States. Now see, now that's

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that's a rough average. And I
don't know how reliable zip recruiter is because

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again I think you would have to
compare Monster. And let's not forget that

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Craigslist for a little while was really
doing a booming business hooking people up.

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And I know on Craigslist fluffers were
getting paid that a few years ago.

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If you don't know what a fluffer
is, I'm not going to tell you,

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go look it up. But anyway, just fluffers were getting paid twenty

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five bucks an hour. So I
don't know, I don't know, Maybe

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that's harder work than being on camera. I don't know how hard the work

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is. You know, well,
look at that triple on top story here

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that actually that checks into it says
poorn's dirty a secret when everyone gets paid.

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Oh boy, So they actually did
an in depth study on this,

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okay, and it says it says, here's how things break down for a

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traditional sex scene between a man and
a woman. The average actress's compensation is

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typically between eight hundred and one thousand
dollars, depending on the studio's budget.

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Top tier performers can earn as much
as fifteen one hundred occasionally ten thousand,

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while newcomers with bad representation might earn
us a little as three hundred dollars.

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More extreme acts, as you might
expect, command higher rates. The most

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extreme, unsuitable for describing in polite
conversation, can go for eighteen hundred to

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twenty five hundred dollars. Oh all
right, Well, the person that I

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knew then landed somewhere in between the
unsuitable to describe in public actions and typical

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pay scale. Because but they were
doing fetish videos. So I don't know

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if there's a difference between fetish videos
and regular porn. Anyways, do I

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want to talk about this all night? No, Danny, help me out,

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save me here, Uh give me
something else I'm talking about. I

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wanna, I wanna. I want
to save you that. Now you changed

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my whole train of thought. You
talked about the airy comin one six.

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I grew up in a small farming
community between Sacramento and Stocks and then out

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on one of his whole bunch of
islands. It's called the Sacramento Sam Joaquin

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out and there was this farmer that
built like this huge, like southern mansion.

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It's called the Grand Grand Armand Mansion. Can look at it now.

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But I was taking a trip in
the early eighties. My wife and I

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were newly married, were visiting her
family, and it was a slot of

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strange situations happened at this Grandarland mansion. My father was he was the director

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of a small fire department, volunteer
fire department, and the fire marshal start

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putting a lot of pressure on them
to put like the kind of they would

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have parties. They'd have these big
parties. I heard like Fleetwood Mac was

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there, that Governor Jerry Brown was
there. They'd have these parties. But

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the fire marshal was putting all this
pressure on to shut these parties down,

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like you know, like just kind
of kind of in and kind of harass

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them. Matter of fact, I
remember they even came in subpoena my dad,

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and then they got handed subpoena.
They asked me my name, and

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sure enough I had my father's name, and they handed me the subpoena because

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when the first time they tried to
handle my father, does you must be

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talking about my son? And then
it came back and handed me the subpoena.

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Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait

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your father Hold on a second.
So your father threw you under the bus

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when they came to subpoena him,
Oh, you must be talking about my

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son. Yeah, So I didn't
want to let that pass. The same

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yeah, yeah, he had we
had the same name, you know,

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and he told me, don't they're
going to try to serve you, so

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don't take it well. As the
gala, she had a British accent.

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She was, you know, probably
six seven months pregnant, and she came

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to the front door and put it
in my hand because are you yes,

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And I got the subpoena. You've
been served, You've been served. Sorry,

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Yeah, I'm just picturing this happened
in the seventies. Well, you

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know what's funny is I got offered. I got offered a place to live

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in Sacramento a few years ago.
A guy who was very much into the

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radio show. He had a property
there in this trailer park, believe it

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or not, in a near Sacramento, which which which I guess was by

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a lake or something. There's some
nice trailer park there by a lake,

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and these trailers, you know,
they're not like the junkie things you see,

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you know that always get blown over
every time there's a tornado. But

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it was a fairly nice area.
And the funny thing is he's telling me

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all kinds of wild stuff that goes
on in this trailer park, and he's

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like, but don't worry. You
could probably bring your family with you be

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all right, you know. But
what he described there, I'm like,

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it's not exactly a family neighborhood.
It sounds like a lot of a lot

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of people are just, you know, hanging out there all day and having

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a party sort of lifestyle. And
I'm thinking, to myself, is Sacramento

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a party town? Because I don't
recall that so anyway, but but you're

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telling me this please continue after you
got thrown under the bus by your dad.

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Yeah, yeah, it's truly.
So they started doing some more investigating

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and it went beyond the fire marshal. As it ended up, this was

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the dea putting pressure on the fire
marshal and they were just kicking it down,

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down the can, down the road
till it got to me, I

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guess, because then they wanted to
put like, you know, capacity,

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you know, signs, and they
were trying to say, hey, you

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know, it was poor for the
decorum. But as in the middle of

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the island. I used to had
a friend and I used to play around

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that mansion when I was a little
kid. We played those pale orchards.

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So this was in the late seventies. And then my wife and I my

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wife is from Texas. We got
married and ended up taking a trip out

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to Texas for a couple of weeks. It was around Thanksgiving and I met

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my ex brother in law who he
was quiet fan. I was quite perverted.

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So we took a trip down to
Victoria, Texas, near the gold

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from Mexico. There I got my
two younger brother in laws and my other

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brother in law, Joe, and
he was just while we're having a you

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know, cooking a you know,
he was cooking a you know, wonderful

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cook cook a brisket. But you
know he was putting these pornal movies in

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the in the v C on.
It was kind of well, U suttling,

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But I mean I was a guest
and I didn't want to be rude.

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I was far away from home that
wait a minute, wait any wait,

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wait, wait, wait day are
you telling me like he's got like

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a family barbecue going on and he's
like, well, let me drop something

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in the v c R and he's
throwing porn. I mean, what is

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this guy trying to do? Set
up for like a little incest gang bang

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here? Hey, well, I'll
get everybody in the mood. Let's eat

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and enjoy and uh see if we
can all swap partners around. I mean,

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what is the deal? Yeah?
I don't know what his deal was,

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but but but caught my eye and
I couldn't take I couldn't stop watching.

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It wasn't the porn, it was
where the one was taking place.

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And all of a sudden, my
wife's kind of like, you sure are

408
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.799
enjoying that they go, no,
you need to look at this, because

409
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:08.920
no, I don't want to look
at No, you really need to look

410
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.839
at this. And I had to
show her that where they're filming. This

411
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:17.319
is at the Grand Island Mansion,
the mansion where we had all the headaches,

412
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.160
with the fire department, with the
parties. Not only they were probably

413
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:25.079
running drugs, but they were shooting
porn, porn movies in there, and

414
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:27.119
I like, this was the pair
works. Yeah, this is a pair

415
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.680
works. I knew well, but
this was why he used to play as

416
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.039
a kid. And they were shooting
the port and my life is you're right,

417
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.000
you know, so I can never
get that, you know, drive

418
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.400
by that that's funny. You can't
get those images out of it. That's

419
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.839
really funny. But let me strange. It was really strange. Sure,

420
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.200
let me ask you. This Is
this during a time I know, for

421
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.960
a time period there there were laws
against filming porno in California, which was

422
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.559
weird because they used to have to
like kind of do a gorilla style,

423
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.640
which is why a lot of that
stuff was shot in hotel rooms they you

424
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.519
know, because they would just move
from hotel room to hotel room. And

425
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:08.720
is this during the time when that
stuff was still like not legally acceptable in

426
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:14.359
California. Because nowadays there's a whole
you know, there's a whole thing.

427
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:21.160
You got to have people tested for
diseases, and there's actually rules and regulations

428
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:26.720
connected to the whole pornography industry in
California. I know that I don't know

429
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.680
all the details, but I know
that goes on. Yeah, I really

430
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.640
couldn't. I really couldn't tell you, but I do know that, like,

431
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.680
there was a period you heard a
lot of it came out of southern

432
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:41.039
California, La acting. You know, everybody's trying to make it big in

433
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:42.720
the movies. But if you don't, you know, you got to eat

434
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:48.920
I guess scenarios. But it was
just it was just such a strange incident

435
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.400
that all of a sudden, I
just like, I'll tell some people that

436
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.599
I know and that you will not
believe. I was all the way out

437
00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:03.319
in Victoria, Texas, and guess
what I found, see my perverted brother

438
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.160
in law. Yeah, but here's
the funny part. You're struck by where

439
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.559
the location of the pornography is filmed. I'm still stuck on why you're having

440
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.680
a family get together and putting on
porn. I mean I I could never

441
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:22.279
imagine a purpose for doing that.
Just okay, okay, you know,

442
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:29.359
just just think of me. I
am a cradle Cathoy sheltered. None of

443
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:33.160
that was in our home. I
mean it was a shock. Let me

444
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.559
just tell you. It was a
shock. And I just I don't know

445
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:42.240
what his deal was. My two
other brother in laws were you know,

446
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.359
they were high schoolers, you know, they were they were then twalls,

447
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:49.680
you know, but it was it
was strange and it was uncomfortable. But

448
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.680
it never went any far as the
tither. But but he did make a

449
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.559
good discuit. I mean it was
good and schechrisket I did. I did.

450
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.359
That was probably my best memory of
that. But this is this is

451
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:06.039
the crazy part to me. Look
a story. I mean I have heard

452
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.400
stories from people where it's like they're
in a room with a bunch of guys

453
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.880
and for some reason, somebody puts
on porno. You know, and I

454
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.400
think to myself, do you consider
the crowd that's around you when you decide

455
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.519
to do this? And what is
your point? Now? I know sometimes

456
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.640
people do this at parties, and
you know they do it because they're hoping

457
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.480
to encourage people to start pairing off
and you know, getting wild and whatever.

458
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.359
But when you got a family get
together, you have figure unless people

459
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:37.039
are looking to swap partners or or
maybe they're looking to make incest porn,

460
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.759
which apparently is a thing too from
what I'm told, I don't know,

461
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.559
Like to me, it's just that
would be the whole bizarre. I would

462
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:45.400
not be able to get past that. I don't even know if I could

463
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.599
have eaten the brisket or hung out
through this, because I would have been

464
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.839
like, what the hell are you
doing this? Like is this is this

465
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:57.599
what you do for everybody? Yeah? Yeah, I think I was traumatized.

466
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.680
I had to compartmentalize. You know, I was just getting introduced to

467
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:07.599
these people. But and this is
early on in your relationship with her,

468
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:09.559
Like I mean you had to be
like in some sort of shock, like

469
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:15.079
okay, this was well she didn't. I mean, let me put it

470
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.880
this way. We were, oh
how we were around twenty years of age.

471
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.720
I mean she came out to California, she was twelve, through a

472
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:27.759
divorce, so this was her her
half sisters, Okay, family, So

473
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:34.400
I mean it was not it was
not something that I don't think we really

474
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.640
discussed it. It was just kind
of like that was awkward, you know.

475
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.839
So yeah, yeah, and how
well? And how was the car

476
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.839
ride home? I mean, did
you guys discuss this on the way home,

477
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:49.680
because I can imagine No, No, it was actually like what was

478
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.720
that? Like it was her?
Yeah, it was. What happened was

479
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:59.400
is we wrote down with them and
there it was an eight hour drive from

480
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:05.759
Dallas to Victoria and then her my
wife's stepfather came in. He drove down

481
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.639
and picked us up and tiled us
back to Dallas. So, uh,

482
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:14.079
now there was no discussion about it. Okay, fair enough, Danny.

483
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:15.320
I'm gonna put you on hold.
I'm gonna come back to you and let

484
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.840
you recatch, recatch your train of
thought that I knocked you off on.

485
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.599
But that's that is a hell of
a story. And I guess I'll go

486
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.800
to our next caller, and uh, I don't know. I guess I'll

487
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.280
start with this question. I mean, incest porn yay or nay? Jimmy

488
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.880
James, what do you what do
you think? Is that not a weird

489
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.119
scene? Family barbecue and hey,
let's put some porn on the TV for

490
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:47.400
everybody to watch. What do you
think? Jim James, I don't know

491
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:52.480
what's going on. I don't know
where you guys are ting. Well,

492
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.400
I just we started talking about Stormy
Daniels. Well, hang on, Jay,

493
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.960
I'll tell you what happened. We
were talking about Stormy Daniels because she

494
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:02.719
was in the news this week and
you know, salacious details, and b

495
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:07.320
Pete said something about her getting paid
and I said, well, I have

496
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.679
no idea what the porno pay scale
is. So b Pete started looking that

497
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.000
up and the next thing I know
is Danny called in and he said,

498
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.840
well, I had another thought.
But I went to this family barbecue and

499
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.639
my brother in law he made a
great brisket or whatever, but he put

500
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:28.320
Porno on the TV for everybody to
watch while he was cooking the food.

501
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.920
And I'm like, weird scene.
You have a family barbecue and you're putting

502
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:37.039
Porno on. I'm like struck by
that. And then he's like yeah.

503
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:38.800
But the weirdest thing is I realized
where it was filmed, and it was

504
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:43.000
filmed at this place that I used
to play at as a child. That

505
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.199
was like this big mansion nearby and
the orchards and all this, and I'm

506
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:51.920
stuck on the weird scene where you
have the family barbecue and you're putting porn

507
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.119
on. What the hell? Anyway? You don't have to talk about any

508
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.840
of that, Jimmy James, obviously, I just wanted to ask you the

509
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.159
question what you thought about it?
And I guess you're like, I don't

510
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:08.320
know what's going on there, So
what's on your mind? Okay, here's

511
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:13.800
my name said line? Are I'm
coming in good? It's okay, we

512
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.039
got we got that crackle on the
line. But wait and hear you go

513
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:30.559
ahead, all right, Michigan woman
found living inside grocery store side a grocery

514
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:34.719
store side. Okay, Uh,
that's a hell of a headline. Do

515
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:36.880
you do you have an article for
that? Maybe you could post it in

516
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.320
the chat room, which, by
the way, b Pete, if you

517
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:43.880
can post that, uh that pornopaescale
article in the chat room too, I'll

518
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.280
grab those as links to the show. But so she's living in a grocery

519
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:53.800
store sign. You want to give
us some more details about this, Yeah,

520
00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:01.559
it's our reads. The woman was
found living inside a sign on top

521
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:07.360
of a grocery store recently, in
a case that local police officer makes you

522
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:16.119
stretch your head he said, the
unidentified the woman who was homeless and not

523
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:22.559
only been living inside the grocery store
for a year, but she also had

524
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:28.840
a dast coffee maker, a computer
and a printer. She was discovered on

525
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:35.559
April thir twenty third with a contractors
noticed someone was running an extension court up

526
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:44.679
the world where there's a plug the
wow. Wow. Okay, so she

527
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:47.239
got noticed because of an extension cord
because she had to have power for all

528
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.559
her stuff, for computer or printer
and everything. And she's been living in

529
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:57.760
this grocery store for a year.
I guess so. And it says the

530
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:07.039
signs five foot inch by food aided
size, So she herself a little makeshift

531
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:13.480
cab and I guess mmm, well, don't provide many pictures, which is

532
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.400
above me. Well that's a pretty
interesting story. I mean, look,

533
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:21.440
you got to get creative when you
got nowhere to go, right. Wow,

534
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.320
that that is an interesting headline.
But again, if you got that,

535
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.559
I'll try and look it up,
see if I can find a link

536
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:29.400
to it. What was it?
What was it published in a local paper?

537
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:36.639
There? You know it's sound fox
news. I just posted it in

538
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.920
the chair. Okay, you just
posted it, all right? I'll go

539
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.639
take a look. I want to
look at this story myself, but it's

540
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.599
in the live chatroom Attochelli dot com. For those of you listening who are

541
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.039
not on my site, you can
go there and you don't even have to

542
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:53.480
sign in to observe it. But
let's see Ohio church ordered to stop housing

543
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:59.480
homeless. That's one story that's there. Where's this one with the side.

544
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:05.320
Let's see oh Michigan woman found living
inside grocery stores signed with computer desk and

545
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:10.880
coffee maker. Huh, that's pretty
interesting. Yeah, I guess they got

546
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.239
like a little homeless news page here
at Foxnews dot com because there's a bunch

547
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:24.000
of homeless stories on this page.
Looks like right, I didn't notice that,

548
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.880
but could be have noticed on some
of the other topics where there's so

549
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:36.280
many stories constantly, they've just started
making it a run, things like Trump's

550
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:40.480
sleep ocases. Yeah, well,
that's definitely CNN's preoccupation at the moment.

551
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.400
Like literally, if you take a
look at television listings, it tells you,

552
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:47.079
now, the Trump trial coverage you
know, for like six hours a

553
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:51.719
day. Now, you know,
like again they need them for content.

554
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.599
I'm telling you, I'm imagining.
MSNBC does that, but I can't stomach

555
00:39:55.639 --> 00:40:00.519
those people, so I don't even
look at their damn listings. But anyway,

556
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:07.280
yeah, so this other thing here, Ohio church ordered to stop housing

557
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.280
homeless. But yeah, there's a
whole bunch of things on this page.

558
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.199
So anyway, that's a crazy story. What are your thoughts about it,

559
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:15.519
Jimmy, I mean, is this
is this near you? Or is this

560
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:22.800
is it anywhere close to where you
live? Or is it far away that's

561
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:29.880
not too far? Well? Okay, well, have you ever seen this

562
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:35.599
grocery store this sign yourself? I
have. That's what drew my eyes.

563
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.360
A well known chain. Oh,
it's a well known chain, so you're

564
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.760
familiar with the sign. And can
you imagine somebody trying to live inside of

565
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:52.320
the signs? I don't know's I
think cases case, I don't know.

566
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.280
That's that's pretty creative, though,
you got to say that. I mean,

567
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.079
that's a lot better than a cardboard
box and an alley, you know

568
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:05.519
what I mean, or living behind
a dumpster listening there a movie about this,

569
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:12.440
or a woman that the walmarts just
trying to be well. There were

570
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.760
a couple of people that were found
to be living somehow in the storage rooms

571
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.280
that you know, some of these
giant, big box stores. A couple

572
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.960
of times, I mean it doesn't
happen all the time, but I mean

573
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.599
a few times over the past say, twenty years or so, I think

574
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:29.960
they've discovered some people that for a
time had been living, you know,

575
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:35.679
inside of some of these retail establishments, somehow avoiding the you know, the

576
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.639
surveillance cameras and all that. I
don't know how, but they do it.

577
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.000
But this woman apparently was on the
roof of the place. Huh.

578
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.599
I mean, is that where the
sign is on the roof of the grocery

579
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:52.159
store. Yeah, and there is. I mean, some con characters see

580
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:59.039
typing typing up the roof side prior
scene had gone up there, so with

581
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:04.719
an extension, I don't know if
she had like a ladder, well,

582
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:06.440
it could have been that, or
she could have just been you know,

583
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.920
tie a string around it and pull
it up kind of thing. Wow.

584
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:15.320
I guess you didn't know how to
tap into the sign directly to draw the

585
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.199
power off of that, because then
nobody would have seen the wire, you

586
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:24.000
know. But you know, there
are many invisible parts of America where people

587
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:30.079
exist or subsist somehow. And uh, there's an example. You never know

588
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.719
you could you look at a big
enough sign on top of a grocery store,

589
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:37.519
somebody could be living in it.
That's a that's a wild story,

590
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:46.480
man. Yeah, m disturb me. No, definitely, definitely. And

591
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.679
look, anybody who wants to call
in, maybe you've got a wild story

592
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:52.760
near you or something that caught your
eye. Three one nine, five two

593
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.679
seven, five zero one six is
the number to call to join in.

594
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.599
So far, we've heard from Danny
with his interesting barbiereq story and uh,

595
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:06.280
Jimmy James with the woman living in
the sign somewhere near him about an hour

596
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.960
away from where he lives, but
in his home state. Maybe you got

597
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.880
something of interest you want to bring
up. Tell you what we're gonna do.

598
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.960
We're gonna take a quick break here
and uh make sure that we get

599
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.559
in, uh maybe one more break
before we're done at ten pm. It's

600
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.800
about quarter to nine right now as
I speak, but plenty of time for

601
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.800
you to join in. You listening
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602
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603
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Effect Open mic with my co Ho's
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604
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605
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606
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607
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like I said, we got Danny
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651
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you could be the next caller three
one nine five two seven five zero one

652
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six. And uh, just because
we've we've been stuck on some pretty strange

653
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topics thus far, a lady living
in a grocery store sign how much to

654
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:17.880
porno actresses actually get paid? Uh, Danny's interesting description of discovering that they

655
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filmed stuff at a place he used
to play when he was a kid,

656
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:25.760
and porno being put on at a
barbecue. But we don't have to stick

657
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to these kind of topics. We
could talk about anything. So three one

658
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nine five two seven five zero one
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659
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out to me Charles Dottocelli on Skype, and I'll get you in at least

660
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once during the show. Uh.
And if you hang on, I'll bring

661
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you back around for a second run
after we discussed the first thing. You

662
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bring up, So, b Pete, anything you want to throw in here,

663
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my co host, my friend,
my brother, anything on your mind

664
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:58.519
this week outside of what we've already
gone over. Well, I was doing

665
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.960
a little research on the on the
pay aspect, and then when the story

666
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.880
came up about the porn at the
with the step family members and all in

667
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.840
if you look at most porn sites
that have been able to access in the

668
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:15.159
past few minutes, it seems like
step families all they do is have sex

669
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:21.920
with each other, because that is
one of the biggest categories on these sites.

670
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.559
I mean, you type in step
mom, you get one hundred and

671
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:30.920
seventy thousand videos. You type in
hot step mom, you get one hundred

672
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:36.159
and ninety seven thousand videos. So
it's just amazing the popularity amongst the viewing

673
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.719
public as to what they really like. Step mom is a big thing in

674
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:44.000
porn. Hey, who knows,
you know, I don't keep up with

675
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.119
it. I gotta tell you,
but I don't know that kind of makes

676
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:50.000
sense. Well, you get,
hey, when you throw a step in

677
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.599
front of something, you get away
from all the incest stuff because technically,

678
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.760
you know, they're not blood relatives. So I guess that's why it's such

679
00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:04.559
a big genre amongst porn sites and
against officianoptopos that you know, purchase such

680
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.559
things. Well, plus you know, you're going on their word for it

681
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.360
too, right. I mean,
it could just be a slightly older woman

682
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:14.320
with a younger guy and they go, well, you know, this is

683
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:19.079
the step mom, and what doesn't
necessarily mean it is, right? I

684
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.559
mean, oh absolutely, I would
say that ninety nine percent of those videos

685
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:27.239
out there that yeah, it's you
know, three people are hired. It's

686
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.440
like, you're the pu pizza delivery
guy. Here's your lines, you're the

687
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:35.480
step mom, you're the step daughter. And then with the oldest porno store

688
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:37.360
walks in, star walks in,
it's like, okay, you're the step

689
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:42.000
grandma. Go for it. I
mean, it's you know, you just

690
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:45.320
hand out titles. But it's amazing
how popular a genre it is amongst all

691
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.000
these sites. Yeah, a few
years ago, somebody was telling me about

692
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:51.679
people out there. Yeah, a
few years ago, somebody was telling me

693
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:54.159
about how popular granny porn was.
You know, I think I brought it

694
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:57.840
up on the show because they were
like, nah, man, you got

695
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.880
to see there's like thousands of videos
granny porn, and I'm like, granny

696
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:06.880
porn, okay, But you you
couple that with these stories that you occasionally

697
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:10.039
see where you know you have a
run of some kind of venereal disease amongst

698
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:15.960
a senior living center. It's it's
kind of funny, you know people you

699
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.079
know, yeah, they may be
aged, but they're not dead yet.

700
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:22.960
So I guess with viagra, anything
is possible. Well a lot of times

701
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:29.280
that's because there's like prostitution rings and
stuff running inside of these retirement communities or

702
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.519
facilities. Right. You know,
sometimes these women they get they get a

703
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:37.480
little business going. It's their side
hustle. So security doesn't quite cover everything

704
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:42.039
they want, so they need to
make a little side money and they got

705
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.960
a little something to market. And
you know, the eighty ninety year old

706
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.639
guy is not exactly out there dating
on the scene, but if he's still

707
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:54.679
got the ability, what the hell? Right? And that it reminds me

708
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:58.920
of a Facebook post of a good
friend of mine I've known him for years

709
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:04.559
and years posted that Boobs approved that
men can concentrate on two things at one

710
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.440
time, and I typed it,
Yeah, but at our age, sometimes

711
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:09.760
one is enough. Yeah, well
there you go. And that's the other

712
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:15.960
thing too, is that Uh,
it's just it's endless. What what you

713
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:23.320
know? There there are service industries
out there because there is a demand for

714
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:28.360
something, right, And that's what
I was absolutely, you know, that's

715
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:30.559
why I found it funny. I
mean, I've read a bunch of stories

716
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.000
where it was like, you know, the these rashes of VD ran through

717
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:37.239
these communities, you know, and
many times when they started tracking it down

718
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:40.840
and trying to figure out you know, who was patient zero pretty much,

719
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.440
and these guys were coming back reinfected
after they had been cleared up. Uh.

720
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:51.320
Yeah, they discovered you know,
prostitution rings. So you know,

721
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:53.079
goes to show you, like you
said, I mean, you know it

722
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.800
might be old, but not dead. And I'll tell you something else.

723
00:54:55.920 --> 00:55:00.000
It guarantees you, whether it's granny
porn or it's grand hooker or whatever,

724
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:05.800
one thing is for certain. You're
not gonna get busted for anything statutory or

725
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:09.000
you know, having some illegal pornography
if you're shooting at the granny porn stuff,

726
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:15.199
right, because you know, definitely
not underagal. Well if you're shooting

727
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:17.639
you know, well now wait a
minute, if you're shooting porn. See

728
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:22.679
that was that was one of our
great court settlements from years back. You

729
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:27.920
know, you can pay a prostitute
and be illegal and go to jail and

730
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:34.559
go to jail. If you pay
somebody for sex and film it, that's

731
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:39.599
considered art and that's covered under the
First Amendment. So you know how many

732
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:46.000
of these video production places are actually
you know, hooker rings. If you

733
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:49.639
think about it, it's a legal
way to do it. It's funny though,

734
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.400
you know, we consider something art
it's covered, but a good old

735
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:59.119
commercial transaction is frowned upon, you
know, and the hookers pay taxes.

736
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:05.280
So I don't understand. I don't
understand the discrepancy there. I've never understood

737
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:07.840
that. I figure service is rendered
or services rendered. So whether you're raking

738
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:13.079
the lawn or you're mowing the lawn, it doesn't matter, right, I

739
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.440
mean, you're getting paid, and
you're getting paid because you're providing a service.

740
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:22.519
Isn't this you know, the American
way? I mean, there's no

741
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.920
difference. I would think there's a
difference between you know, laying the carpet

742
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:31.039
punching the carpet. Either way,
you're right, it's a service, and

743
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:36.760
throw a tax on it like they
do in this state of seven percent sales

744
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:40.239
tax make it legal. Well like
also even with these massage parlors that get

745
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:43.800
busted every now and then. Now
I'm not talking about the ones where they

746
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:45.840
got you know, captive women that
are trafficked. But I mean if you've

747
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:50.920
got fully voluntary you know, massage
people that are there to relax you and

748
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.480
get you to well, maybe that's
a form of relaxation too. I mean,

749
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:58.119
so what is the issue. I
don't know. I never understood this.

750
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.119
It's always like rubbed me the wrong
way if you pardon the punt.

751
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:05.360
Well, if you look at Europe, you know, most European countries you

752
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:07.920
go to, this is like Germany. I mean they had you have your

753
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:13.880
local what they call houses of ill
repute that are legal and it's all permitted

754
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.320
and it's all checked by the government. They have to go through health screenings

755
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:22.400
and things like that. You know, they legitimize the business. In fact,

756
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:30.559
in Switzerland they had voted to build
partitions for parking for street workers so

757
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.880
that they would have somewhere to go
to apply their trade and then they're back

758
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:39.039
out on the street. So you
look at you know, Europeans view of

759
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:45.480
sex as being a legitimate business.
And here it's amazing that with all the

760
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:51.360
progressives that we've got screaming around the
United States that we haven't been able to

761
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:54.599
be more progressive in some commercial avenues. Yeah, it's a weird thing.

762
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:59.039
It's like, in some ways America
is the most decadent nation on the planet,

763
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.159
and in other ways, like we're
the most repressed. I never understand

764
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:07.639
that weird mix, you know.
Anyway, whatever I say to adults,

765
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.400
whatever arrangement they come to, it's
between them, you know, and leave

766
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:13.920
it at that. Again, I'm
not for trafficked women or you know,

767
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:16.559
the abused or pipped out women that
are screwed up and all that stuff is

768
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:22.079
horrible, But I think you can
avoid that if you have a regulated sort

769
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.119
of business that's out front, you
know, if you don't hide him in

770
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:29.000
the dark, then they these kind
of things can't go on, I'm thinking.

771
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:32.119
But that's just me. Let's get
back around to our callers, because

772
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:37.199
let's see, Danny's still on the
line, also Jimmy James. But new

773
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.320
callers welcome at any time. Three
one nine, five two seven five zero

774
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:45.360
one six. And maybe Danny's got
some other story to tell us or something

775
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:50.280
else on his mind, so let's
go to him. Danny, you got

776
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:52.320
something else on your mind. I'm
trying to get back on track, and

777
00:58:52.800 --> 00:59:02.480
sure ship to be back in those
spots I want to go, Yeah,

778
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:07.840
if you put some May Brussel on, I've always found her interesting. I

779
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:14.519
mean, like I said, I
remember when Martin Luther King was assassinated.

780
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:19.239
I remember when Robert F. Kennedy
was assassinated, And I remember the local

781
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.880
college paper always had ads in the
back saying I was a teenager saying that

782
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:31.480
CIA killed JFK. And then I
discovered May Brussel in the eighties late night,

783
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:36.119
and I always found her really interesting. So she always piqued my interests.

784
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:40.679
And when I hear any of the
archive material, I find that I

785
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.559
sometimes learned something and I find it
interesting and causes me to think. So

786
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:51.400
I would appreciate any of that type
of gendre. Well, I'll start adding

787
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:52.719
them. I mean, did do
you ever listen to the radio stream that

788
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.679
I have, because you know,
I have it all up on the radio

789
00:59:55.719 --> 01:00:00.119
apps and all that a Chilly dot
com radio and it runs twenty four or

790
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:04.199
seven with replays in my show Aaron
Shows, and uh, you know whatever

791
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:06.960
else it is we happen to be
running at the time. Uh. I

792
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:08.599
also have a couple of things that
come in each week from a few other

793
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:13.119
contributors, but I was thinking of
adding some of my shows just to the

794
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:17.440
rotation to the mix, uh randomly. So I guess your your your vote

795
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:24.559
is yes on May Brussel. Yes, excellent. Okay, well there you

796
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:28.840
go. I think I'm gonna start
doing that this weekend. Yeah. Good.

797
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.880
And then another thing too, you
were talking about, you know,

798
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:43.039
the economy and the cost of living. The FBC Leavic Calm I think has

799
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.400
done an outstanding job. I mean, I wish she had more teeth.

800
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:52.199
There there was a we're doing an
investigation with price fixing, uh, with

801
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:59.119
with the oil. There's a there
was a merger I think it was Exxon

802
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:05.480
and Pioneers where they shale companies,
and they've got all the emails and messes,

803
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:08.360
so it was seems like there was
a lot of collusion with a lot

804
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:14.960
of Saudi oil interest to keep the
production because the demand is keeping the price

805
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:19.159
up be where they get these record
profits. They have laws in the book

806
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.519
that it's criminal for here in the
United States. But once we got you

807
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:28.119
know, crosses overseason four and I
don't know how how it you know what

808
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:34.039
you know, any heat, let's
how to how to curtail that? Except

809
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:37.199
you know, give it some competition. This is just my thoughts. Yeah,

810
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:40.639
well, Excellon Mobile has a really
interesting track record when it comes to

811
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:44.320
this kind of stuff. Like you
know, I don't know if you remember,

812
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:47.079
but Rex Tillerson, when you know
t rex On there was part of

813
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:52.599
the cabinet in Washington. You know, nobody cared, but I brought it

814
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:54.760
up. You know, this was
a guy who definitely had cut some interesting

815
01:01:54.880 --> 01:02:01.400
side deals with the Russian oil companies. And I knew that because again I

816
01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:06.719
had worked for Exon Mobile and you
know, initially I worked for Exon before

817
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:09.360
they merged with Mobile. And that
was a whole other weird thing they pulled

818
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:14.079
off where you know, they had
to actually they were demanded they had to

819
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:20.039
sell off part of their assets to
a company that was called Tasco. It

820
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:23.199
was strange because the company in and
of itself did not have enough money to

821
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:29.920
purchase these assets, even at a
fire sale price. So in a weird

822
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.559
thing that went down, like Exon
loans, Tasco the money to buy their

823
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:38.920
assets, right, so they wound
up holding the note on the loan and

824
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:46.159
transferring over these assets and cutting down
on their retail establishments. Supposedly and becoming,

825
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:53.280
you know again even even larger player
on the global oil scale. And

826
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:57.199
I found it, you know,
like again I was working for him,

827
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:01.039
and I'm looking at it going this
just doesn't even seem like this encourages competition

828
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:07.079
anywhere. This seems like this is
how you kill competition. But they cut

829
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.159
a side deal with the Russian companies. And the next thing I knew is

830
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.039
the Russian companies had all kinds of
very interesting contracts to you know, like

831
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:21.000
say run like when you when you
have a certain portion of a state highway

832
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:25.280
or an interstate highway, even like
I ninety five, right, B Pete

833
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:29.679
knows about I ninety five. But
when you get into Jersey, we call

834
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:34.400
it the Jersey Turnpike. Now there's
only one kind of gas station that's on

835
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:38.599
the turnpike or the parkway in Jersey. There's a singular contract. And at

836
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:44.440
one point Luke Oil was the only
company allowed to be on those highways.

837
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:51.960
And it just made for really interesting
like locked in monopoly where they had guaranteed

838
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:58.280
customers because of their because of their
location, and because of their you know,

839
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:02.119
the singularity that they were allowed through
these contracts. And my understanding was

840
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:08.960
that Exxon Mobile assisted them with getting
that done, and it was like it

841
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:11.840
was the weirdest thing. And then
even at a certain point, like Shell

842
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:15.800
is a completely different company from a
totally different part of the world, but

843
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:19.679
it seemed like they were all colluding
with one another to make sure that,

844
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:25.000
you know, the top five oil
companies remain the top five oil companies globally.

845
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:29.679
I mean, that's just the way
it is. And I don't think

846
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:31.440
anybody you know, does anything about
it. It just is what it is.

847
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:35.719
And then people want to complain about
the price. But if all you

848
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:40.280
have is the same five companies that
have been here through every single one of

849
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:45.079
these you know, supposed crisises and
different things that have emerged, you know,

850
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:48.079
supposedly global conditions have caused this,
and that it seems like if it's

851
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:53.320
the same companies that are always there
and it's the same companies that you know,

852
01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:58.760
I don't know, there is something
in the equation there that just doesn't

853
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:01.920
seem f or right. And God
help you, I don't think you could

854
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:09.239
create competition at this point to get
in on that business. Now. You

855
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:11.679
know, some people would say,
well, environmentally, maybe it's better,

856
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.239
you know, let the dinosaurs eat
their own tails and everything else. But

857
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:18.159
I don't know, man, It's
just one of those things where it's like

858
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:27.199
their business practices combined with the way
that they manipulate the market, seems like

859
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:30.079
it does not get as many complaints
on the global scale as you would expect.

860
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:35.280
But maybe it's just me, Danny, I don't know, what are

861
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:40.840
your thoughts? Well, no,
no, no, I I my thoughts

862
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.800
is I remember walking in the dark, you know, I think it was

863
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:49.480
seventy three when nineteen seventy three opeck, you know basically cut us off and

864
01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:53.559
that changed it where we had to
drive fifty five and we were started to

865
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:59.239
you know, you know, consume
them less. But then Iran turned on

866
01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:02.639
the sticket for us and I was
working in a gas station when basically the

867
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:11.360
Islamic Revolution happened and prices doubled overnight
and there was gas lines. And then

868
01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:15.039
you remember in the early ages,
Texas, you know, sponsored you on

869
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:19.039
the TV show Dallas. You know, they're making all these oil millionaire until

870
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:24.599
Saudi Arabia started flooding the world market
and they had cap all their oil oils

871
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:31.119
and caused the recession in Texas.
And then remember the Gulf the second floor.

872
01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:34.840
W was saying, Hey, you
know we're going to take the oil.

873
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:40.679
We don't. This won't cost us
anything that you know, the oil

874
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:43.920
is going to pay for it.
That never happened. So some of the

875
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:48.239
manipulation is true because some of these
wars, maybe just keep them and sanctions,

876
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:53.679
just keeping the oil in the ground, and then also kill them off

877
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:58.159
alternatives. I mean, I have
the vulcle for Wacked, you know,

878
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:01.440
retire he passed away. But we've
had hydrogen for decades. We have the

879
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:05.159
technology. It's the most abundant element
of the universe. Done right, it

880
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:09.880
would be cleaner and more plentiful.
That's just my thought, my opinion.

881
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:13.559
Let's create some competition now, I
hear you. And meanwhile we're stuck with

882
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:16.000
freaking Elon Musk. Anyway, Danny, I'll put you on hold. Maybe

883
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.039
I'll come back around to you again. Uh, I don't know. You

884
01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:21.960
know, I'm sure Jimmy James has
something else on his mind, So let's

885
01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:26.280
go to him next and again,
anybody else who wants to join in in

886
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.599
the conversation. Anight three one nine
five two seven five zero one six is

887
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:32.719
the number to call you guys.
Hear the Jimmy James crackles, so you

888
01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:36.719
know he's on the line, Jimmy, anything else on your mind besides the

889
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:45.679
lady who was living in the sign
these days? Oh, I'm sorry,

890
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:49.960
breaking up pretty bad. Uh yeah, Well there's a bit of a connection

891
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:54.400
issue between us now for some reason. But go ahead, try to get

892
01:07:54.480 --> 01:08:00.400
something else out if you want.
Okay, remember a couple or a few

893
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:05.840
weeks ago when Doug Campbell of the
Dallas actually called in and mentioned that document,

894
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:12.800
that he was going to have a
show on that document and involving Lieutenant

895
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:17.079
Colonel Proudy. Remember that, Yeah, I think you did right. What

896
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:26.239
happened? Well, did you guys? Did you Bep and Dan If?

897
01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:30.439
He said, I don't know if
he's interested in the jfk assassination, but

898
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:34.880
I don't know if you guys listened
to the show and read and hear about

899
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:42.640
the document, and I wanted to
hear your opinion on it. I'm not

900
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:47.960
caught up on what Doug and you
know what, Oh good god, what

901
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.920
Doug and Rob are doing right now, I'm not caught up with it.

902
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:56.199
I've actually been working on some other
things in the past few weeks, so

903
01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:00.279
I have not caught up with them, and I've been doing some other eating

904
01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:02.920
trying to catch up with some authors
and some new people that I'm going to

905
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:06.640
bring on the show. So I've
been stuck on that a bit, and

906
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:10.279
I have not caught up with Doug. Did he do a show on it

907
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:16.960
yet? Yeah, he did do
a show on it and had the document

908
01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:24.600
and everything. BP. Did you
see the document and or hear the show

909
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:30.439
and what's your opinion on it?
No, I've straight up I've passed three

910
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:34.359
weeks. I've not had a chance
to look at even except the weather to

911
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:38.319
try to keep up with stuff.
That's something I need to do is go

912
01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:42.319
through and catch up with Robin,
Doug and all the others out there that

913
01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:45.359
have been adding some stuff to it. Can you brief us on the document?

914
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:51.920
What's contained in it? Yep,
here's a real quick summation. A

915
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:58.640
bunch of it's totally wided out except
for a last word, and then there's

916
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:05.319
a bit about Okay, of course
we all know who Festerwald is, right,

917
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:15.000
Yeah? At fencher Wald yep,
Yeah, Bernard fincher Wald. The

918
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:24.399
odd thing is he's writing Breckenrich,
Who's who was the cia IG from its

919
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:30.359
beginning until he died in like seventy
two or three. And so he's writing

920
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:39.800
Breckenrich and he mentions that he's bringing
I would assume whoever they were talking about

921
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:44.119
in the whited out part, and
he asks if it's all right if he

922
01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:50.159
brings a man called L. Fletcher
Proudy, And that's pretty much the document.

923
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:58.439
What wasn't he the deputy in ig? Right, because you're talking about

924
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:05.960
Scott Breckenridge, right, this guy
was No, he was the I G

925
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:15.600
from the CIA's inception to the day
he croaked. Hmm, let me take

926
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:19.479
a look at which was a too
long apes. Actually, yeah, the

927
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:26.800
guy I'm thinking of I think died
in the late nineties. Right, Oh,

928
01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:30.039
that can't be this guy. This
guy died in nudge seventy two.

929
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:34.159
Oh okay, maybe maybe I'm thinking
of a different different but I know there

930
01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:40.079
was an IG named Breckinridge who yeah, let me let me take let me

931
01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:45.600
just look that up. C I
A I G C I A Breckinridge.

932
01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:58.399
Well, Doug's conclusion is is that
it was. But his conclusion is I

933
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:08.439
believe that fester for Festald, but
fester Wald and El Fletcher Proudy were pretty

934
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:16.760
much meeting to get their orders because
they were disinformation agents. Whereas, given

935
01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:25.159
the time period in nineteen seventy two, I think because fester Wald was an

936
01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:31.760
attorney, he was probably working with
Proudy on his book The Secret Team,

937
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:39.159
and figured he could kill two birds
with one stone by getting permission for Proudy

938
01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:45.600
to print that book. And then
there's the part that's all blacked out.

939
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:55.720
But at the time Festivald had some
interesting clients like James McCord for instance.

940
01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:05.079
He could have been the one coming
to dinner. No interesting stuff. Let's

941
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:12.840
see we got Scott D. Breckinridge
joined the agency in nineteen fifty three.

942
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.680
Where is this That joined the Central
Intelligence Agency in nineteen fifty three and served

943
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:21.000
for twenty six years. During the
time, he served as the CIA's briefing

944
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:26.960
officer for the White House Staff,
liaison with the Australian Intelligence Services, a

945
01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:30.800
member of the Special Policy Staff in
Washington, and spent sixteen years on the

946
01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:35.039
staff of the CIA's Inspector General,
the last six of which were spent as

947
01:13:35.079 --> 01:13:42.000
Deputy Inspector General. Twice he was
assigned as a special liaison officer with Special

948
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:48.479
Congressional Investigating committees. Breckenrich received the
CIA's highest award, the Distinguished Intelligence Medal,

949
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:53.920
two times during his service. He
retired from the CIA in nineteen seventy

950
01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:59.960
nine and taught at the Patterson School
of Diplomacy and International Commerce at the Universe.

951
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.520
Then I must have I must still
have gotten the name wrong, because

952
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:10.840
the dude definitely died because I checked
after he mentioned it. Okay, No,

953
01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:16.319
definitely died. Two or three?
All right, Well, let's look

954
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:20.000
right real quick. Yeah, take
take a look, because this is Scott

955
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:23.760
D. Breckinridge. And it could
be there's more than one Breckonridge. And

956
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:28.720
I think there is u that that
might have served as an ig or in

957
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:31.399
some capacity. And if I go
over to yeah, if I go over

958
01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:36.000
to Carmine site, let's see.
The son of Scott and Gertrude Beckenridge was

959
01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:43.479
born during nineteen hundred and seventeen among
the Washington, DC area. The family

960
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:48.319
moved to midst. But let's say
nineteen fifty three was employed by the Sea.

961
01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:54.960
It's the same guy. Nineteen fifty
three was employed by the CIA is

962
01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:59.760
a briefing officer. During nineteen sixty
two, Breckenridge joined the Inspector General's office

963
01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:01.920
and he was later the agency liaison
with astral Ye. It's the same guy

964
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:09.439
that Carmine has on his site,
so I don't know, maybe you got

965
01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:15.560
a different guy in mind there.
Put the link to Carmine's site in the

966
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:17.520
chatroom at a chilli dot com for
you guys if you want to follow up

967
01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:23.159
on that anyway. No, I
gotta tell you I'm not read in on

968
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:26.840
this, so I'm not fully aware
of the of the evidence. But the

969
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.800
idea that Proudy, you know,
might have been a disinformation agent, Yeah,

970
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:36.960
that's probably pissing off a whole lot
of people. So uh, maybe

971
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.600
it's time I get dug on as
a guest. Huh. Which, by

972
01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:44.960
the way, I don't know if
you noticed, but I did get the

973
01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:49.079
archivist on this week for the May
Brussel Library project. Did you notice that

974
01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:57.720
I have not yet. I've had
a rough week. My dog had to

975
01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:09.520
get well as we had treat tumors
and it's that their reg that's rough well

976
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:13.239
anyway, Jimmy James not. I
mean, I wish I could offer you

977
01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:15.239
more on that, but I don't. I don't know enough to offer more

978
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:19.920
on it. It's uh an interesting
thing though, you find out over time

979
01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:24.479
that a lot of people who appeared
to be, you know, on the

980
01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:28.239
right side of things, uh,
in the search for truth, we're not

981
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:32.319
always exactly as advertised. So I
would not be surprised if, yet again

982
01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:39.479
we find that, uh, you
know, somebody was not necessarily on the

983
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.479
right side of things, even though
they were out there claiming to be in

984
01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.800
search for the truth, you know, I mean it's uh, it's possibility,

985
01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:53.199
yeah, that that best best during
the wall. Another interesting client he

986
01:16:53.319 --> 01:17:00.119
had at that time was that butter
Field guy from Water Day. Also oh

987
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:03.319
yeah, Alexander Butterfield, right,
the guy who you know is credited with

988
01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:12.000
alerting people that there was a taping
system at the White House, right while

989
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:20.199
that she didn't help them. It's
deemed pretty much Dean. Yeah, I

990
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:28.760
think that was Dean. It's exposed
it. But Butterfield, as I understand,

991
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:31.319
it's the one that talked Vincent and
did stall him the damn thing to

992
01:17:31.399 --> 01:17:36.560
begin with. Yeah, I think. But interestingly, yeah, I think

993
01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:47.039
Butterfield's testimony was you know, also
this interview might have been about was the

994
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:58.199
fact that at that time, remember
Lieutenant burn Old Prouty was saying Butterfield is

995
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:03.159
a CI agent, which everyone listen, and he might have been meeting with

996
01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:09.600
the IG about that old thing.
Because then all of a sudden, Elf

997
01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:16.920
Fletcher proud Nah, I mist identified
Butterfield. Well, you mean Fencerwald,

998
01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:25.399
not Butterfield, right, you mean
Fenser Wald. He's saying he misidentified Fencer

999
01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:32.880
Wald. No, L L.
Fletcher Prouty at the time of Watergate named

1000
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:40.800
in a magazine Butterfield is a CIAgent. Well, and now I'm saying that

1001
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:45.760
at this meeting, maybe he was
meeting with you know, maybe the IG,

1002
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:55.479
maybe because it's illegal to expose an
agent. But how there's a lot

1003
01:18:55.479 --> 01:19:00.000
of weird crap going on. Then
the problemise is that the acts write it

1004
01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:04.680
out right. Well that that always
sucks. But I just posted in the

1005
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:13.119
chat room the congressional testimony with Butterfield
over Watergate, because like I said,

1006
01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:16.600
I'm pretty sure they credited him with
first letting the public know that there was

1007
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:20.880
the taping system there, and then
I think Dean added on afterwards to the

1008
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:25.960
whole thing. But you know,
my memory could be a little bit off

1009
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.479
on this. It's been a little
bit of time since I did any deep

1010
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:31.479
research on it. And I think
the last book I read on it was

1011
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:36.279
a couple of years ago. What
do you call it? What is the

1012
01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:43.840
guy's name? He's a prominent writer. Anyway I read I read his book

1013
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:45.720
on Watergate, and I didn't know
what to make of it, even some

1014
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:50.560
of the stuff he was talking about. But yeah, and here's a good

1015
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:58.359
one for Danny to take off with
the Piso may Bro And this is very

1016
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:04.039
count reverse shield verus seal. This
is the big one. This is what

1017
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:12.000
she called the octopus in the early
sevenes. I want to get his take

1018
01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:16.439
on it. Well, yeah,
generally she described things as an octopus.

1019
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:21.079
She had a lot of interesting descriptors
for stuff that was going on back then.

1020
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:26.760
I think it would be oh,
no, she took she pretty much

1021
01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:30.880
took this from that speaker of the
house that Crashton, Alaska. But I

1022
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:38.800
want to get his take. Are
you aware of the genieology records which didn't

1023
01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:48.279
the World War two Nazis, the
actual Nazis collected the genealogy of every one

1024
01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:57.880
in Europe for seven generations in these
records to the Interpol ended up to Jay

1025
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:04.279
Edgar Hoover, and then from him
it ended up to Matthew Matt Matt to

1026
01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:12.560
all the guy that cooked up the
CIA with Roselli and then ended up to

1027
01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:18.359
the so called Q's Corporation, which
by that time was just a CIA corporation

1028
01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:26.319
anyway, and they worked with a
certain religious Organiza should destroy these documents and

1029
01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:30.920
caves out west and you know,
like Utah, and all of a sudden,

1030
01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:38.079
now this religious group has a genealogy
business on the side. Do you

1031
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:43.840
think of that? Dan? Yeah, that's interesting. All right, well

1032
01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:46.039
we'll ask Dan about that. Let's
see. Uh, I'll put you on

1033
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.680
Olden see what Dan's got to say. And meanwhile, anybody else who wants

1034
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:55.640
to join in three one nine zero
one six, that's the number to call.

1035
01:21:56.159 --> 01:22:00.920
Hey Dan, yees? Yeah,
did you hear what James is saying?

1036
01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:05.479
Good? I heard what he said. I wouldn't call myself an expert

1037
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:14.880
in anything, but over years of
reading and you know, reading like Reinhart

1038
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:20.159
Galen's biography and everything, you know, she claimed a lot of the RSS

1039
01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:27.000
was influenced a lot by the by
the Nazis, So it kind of makes

1040
01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:30.600
sense. I mean, I don't
you know, there may be some holes

1041
01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:33.079
in it, but I think it
should be all explored, you know,

1042
01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:38.880
It makes a lot of sense,
especially with the ancestry. If they're going

1043
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:45.439
back seven generations, you're trying to
you know, check everybody's gene pool for

1044
01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:48.600
particular reasons. Wasn't that kind of
what the Nazis were doing. Yeah,

1045
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:53.800
well, there's a whole lot of
stuff to that, and with Galen and

1046
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:59.479
and and everything. You know,
the legend I think is larger than the

1047
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:03.359
reality. But some of the stuff
that we've we've gotten a hold of and

1048
01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:08.119
believe it or not, through the
JFK Records Collection Act, has revealed a

1049
01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:12.399
lot of weird things that were carried
on by the CIA, you know,

1050
01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:18.119
long after World War Two was over
that that seemed really really strange some of

1051
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:23.439
the people that they thought about bringing
into the organization or utilizing intelligence from.

1052
01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:26.720
You know, like in the old
days, people would say, well,

1053
01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:30.359
they wouldn't just bring in you know, these mentally unstable people into the CIA.

1054
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:34.680
In their own documents, they're saying
that they are you know, people

1055
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:40.159
that they said were paranoid and you
know, clearly disturbed, but had good

1056
01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:44.680
information they were utilizing them bringing them
in, I mean, and they were

1057
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:47.239
still talking about it in the sixties, which you know, in some of

1058
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:51.159
these memorandums that you know, loosely
have something to do with the Kennedy administration.

1059
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:57.239
So they ended up being dumped into
the files. And I remember doing

1060
01:23:57.279 --> 01:23:59.680
a show on this with Carmine where
we talked about, you know, the

1061
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:06.079
the very odd assets that the CIA
decided to utilize and you know, beyond,

1062
01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:13.039
we talked about the mk Naomi project
and uh, not not the one,

1063
01:24:13.159 --> 01:24:15.359
it's not pay per clip, but
there was a whole other thing,

1064
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:20.520
uh, recruiting other European uh uh, you know, former assets for different

1065
01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:28.119
fallen regimes that the CIA is laying
out plans for which you know, and

1066
01:24:28.279 --> 01:24:31.800
and then these things go, yeah, good, consider the source. You

1067
01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:35.640
know, you've got some Yeah,
these agencies have been bringing in deeply disturbed

1068
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:40.520
individuals for a long time, mainly
because you got some deeply disturbed individuals that

1069
01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:43.920
are running the thing. You know, you go back and look at some

1070
01:24:44.039 --> 01:24:46.399
of the background of the people that
we've you know, that have been put

1071
01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:51.880
in these positions. We're being we're
being challenged by a bunch of internal nut

1072
01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:56.399
jobs, have been for years.
It's still taken I mean to this day,

1073
01:24:56.479 --> 01:25:00.399
we still got disturbed individuals run in
all of these three groups. Oh

1074
01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:04.760
no, no argument for me.
But it's just that these people that claim

1075
01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:08.600
it to be like, you know, a boy Scout type organization, and

1076
01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:12.600
you know that, you know,
it's like, dude, really take a

1077
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:16.399
look at their own internal memorandums about
this. They're not looking to and they

1078
01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:19.760
clearly say, we will recruit criminals. We don't care you know, what

1079
01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:25.239
their background is. It's just if
they're useful, they're useful. And if

1080
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:28.359
they're not, they're not. And
that's all there is to it. Because

1081
01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:30.600
you know, the claim about look
Oswald was a loser, he didn't have

1082
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:35.399
any discernible skills, the CIA would
have never had interest in him. Well

1083
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:40.239
we know that's a lie now too, you know. And I'm not saying

1084
01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:43.119
that he was a CIA agent or
you know, some people want to make

1085
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:46.239
him into James Bond for Christ's sake, But the thing is to say that

1086
01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:54.079
he was excluded from consideration is absolute
nonsense. Because they were taking in people

1087
01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:58.119
that they knew were paranoid, that
they knew were oh Man, pedophiles,

1088
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:02.079
that they knew were drug addicts.
They care different criminals that they employed,

1089
01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:05.800
you know, if they needed them, especially when they wanted to encourage you

1090
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:10.920
know, terrorist acts and stuff,
which they laid out in their assassination guide

1091
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:15.359
when they were dealing with Central and
South America. That thing is is awfully

1092
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:19.359
fascinating if you read through that.
It's a whole how too. Well,

1093
01:26:19.439 --> 01:26:25.479
Look, you can hire me practice. Yeah, it's it was standard practice

1094
01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:30.600
back at that time. You you
employ assets that you know have flaws that

1095
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:38.359
can be utilized against them, or
can be utilized to discredit them if they

1096
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:42.359
ever decide to blow the whistler or
make a statement on something and let something

1097
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:45.640
slip or make a claim. Look, this guy's a deranged nut job.

1098
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:47.720
I don't know what he's talking about. You know, we dismissed everything that

1099
01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:53.560
he says. So it's a convenience
as well as a I mean, it's

1100
01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:58.000
something that they look for. Yeah, it's a burncart it Look, it's

1101
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:01.319
it's very simple strategy. You just
laid it out perfectly. If you've got

1102
01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:05.359
a guy working for you, and
there's one hundred different ways that you can

1103
01:27:05.399 --> 01:27:10.680
make them look bad, but he's
useful of getting certain activities done. If

1104
01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:13.920
he decides to turn on you and
go to the cops because you're involved in

1105
01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:16.039
some criminal thing, right and he
goes to the cops, you can go

1106
01:27:16.079 --> 01:27:18.279
to the cops and say, look, the guy's a drug addict, he's

1107
01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:21.760
a liar. You know, I
tried to help him out or whatever,

1108
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:26.279
but I'm not involved in all this
stuff. Maybe he is. You can

1109
01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:29.760
turn it over and if you,
you know, give the appearance that your

1110
01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:31.960
hands are clean, you can just
turn it back on them. So,

1111
01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:36.239
of course you're going to recruit people
that are damaged or problematic in one way

1112
01:27:36.319 --> 01:27:41.439
or another. So long as they're
controllable, that's the only issue is can

1113
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:45.680
you control them enough to direct them
to get the job done. That's the

1114
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:49.760
only issue. And that's what they
and they say it repeatedly, basically every

1115
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:54.479
time they do one of these evaluations
or they talk about these different assets.

1116
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:58.159
And in some cases we didn't know
who they were talking about with the kryptonyms

1117
01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:01.079
until very recently, but I mean, you can see him discussing these different

1118
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:04.439
assets of this guy who is under
this code name. You know, he's

1119
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:08.800
a problem, but it's okay,
we can control him right now. And

1120
01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:12.720
it didn't matter if they were working
you know, in the Congo, or

1121
01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:16.359
if they were working in Central America
or you know, wherever. It doesn't

1122
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:20.159
matter, so long as they have
somebody they have control over, and they

1123
01:28:20.199 --> 01:28:25.359
can utilize even some of the negative
characteristics that you know, you might not

1124
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:29.359
want to even hire them to paint
your house, considering that they're a little

1125
01:28:29.399 --> 01:28:31.680
bit off. You know, you
don't want them around your family or anything.

1126
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:34.520
But they're useful when you got to, you know, commit some murder,

1127
01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:39.479
some mayhem, some drug dealing,
whatever, no problem, and then

1128
01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:42.680
you have an automatic burn card on
them. Look, the guy's convicted pedophile.

1129
01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:45.479
We know that. You know that. Here it is, you know,

1130
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:49.359
no problem using them whatever, or
maybybe he's paranoid, maybe he's you

1131
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:54.600
know, mentally disturbed. Of course
they recruit people like that. I've never

1132
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:58.600
understood people who say that where it's
like these agencies would never, you know,

1133
01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:01.239
recruit somebody who is you know,
this deranged or has these sorts of

1134
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:06.479
problems or come on. Some current
examples. We've had some very recent examples.

1135
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:12.920
One of them was what's his name, Steele, responsible for the dossier

1136
01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:16.840
that started all the Russian collusion probe. You know, that was somebody who

1137
01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:24.119
was hired by Hillary Clinton's crew for
her election, and they paid for it

1138
01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:28.720
through the lawyers it got a bunch
of stuff stirred up three years of turmoil

1139
01:29:28.840 --> 01:29:34.840
in this country during an election.
But they hired this guy and then you

1140
01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:39.079
know, he was a he was
an asset for the CIA, and then

1141
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:42.760
they turn around and try to discredit
him and pull him off the payroll,

1142
01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:46.640
but yet he was still paid to
do these other things. Another example here

1143
01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:56.640
recently is the gentleman that was supposedly
whistle blowing on Hunter Biden and the Parisma

1144
01:29:56.720 --> 01:30:02.199
deal in the Ukraine. The guy
who made certain statements that kind of nailed

1145
01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:08.239
down the case here. Once the
world gets win that this guy was involved

1146
01:30:08.279 --> 01:30:12.880
in this stuff, suddenly it's put
out there that well, he's not an

1147
01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:17.199
asset that we can trust, and
they go and indict him while he's out

1148
01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:20.399
of the country, and they you
know, suddenly there's a man hunt on

1149
01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:26.840
for this gentleman who was responsible for
all of the statements that Trump based his

1150
01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:30.960
story on for Ukraine. This guy
can't be believed. So here's a perfect

1151
01:30:31.039 --> 01:30:36.199
example. He was useful when it
came time doing the investigation in the background

1152
01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:40.840
work over in Ukraine. He had
the connections, he knew what was going

1153
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:44.640
on. The guy's an Israeli asset
as a matter of fact. And then

1154
01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:48.960
once everything is leaked out and it's
based on this guy providing information to certain

1155
01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:53.359
departments, Boom, his name's in
public. We burn him. Now,

1156
01:30:54.039 --> 01:30:59.239
now we go and and we indict
him for false information. So now we've

1157
01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:01.479
dirtied him. In the media world, nobody will ever, you know,

1158
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:04.840
put any if you know, they
won't put any weight in anything that he

1159
01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:10.760
has said because he's now discredited.
There's very recent examples. You know,

1160
01:31:10.840 --> 01:31:15.000
it's going on to this day.
We're going to find out about some whistleblower

1161
01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:20.439
or somebody who was working in the
background of some other event, and he's

1162
01:31:20.479 --> 01:31:25.800
going to be discredited. That's the
way it works. Yeah, but that

1163
01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:29.760
way until the end of time.
But that's the cycle no matter what.

1164
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.119
And it doesn't matter if it's politics
or you know, I'll give you another

1165
01:31:32.159 --> 01:31:34.720
weird example. Even that guy who
went out there and you know, for

1166
01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:40.640
whatever reason, started talking about well, look we we we have these alien

1167
01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:45.520
programs and all this stuff. Right, and the guy had legitimate ends with

1168
01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:50.000
various departments in the government, and
he made some pretty wild statements before Congress

1169
01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:54.039
in public. Right, So what
did they do next? Now, this

1170
01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:58.600
guy's got no connection anything. You
know, why are they blowing him up

1171
01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:02.640
literally because they're trying to hide what
he said. No, they're they're dirting

1172
01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:05.319
him up for some other reason.
And that's the other thing. It's a

1173
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:12.159
big chess game. Just because they
discredited him doesn't mean that he was always

1174
01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:15.359
a liar and doesn't mean that that's
really what the problem is. You know,

1175
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:18.840
It's just like with that Steele dossier. The guy was legitimate with with

1176
01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:24.039
you know, five different agencies.
Uh, but then he's not. So

1177
01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:28.720
what are you telling me here?
You know, exactly where does it begin

1178
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:30.640
and end? Oh? I see. When it's useful to you, then

1179
01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:36.359
it's all legit. When it's not, then nothing is legitimate. And if

1180
01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:40.680
you come out and you try and
say something against what the agenda is currently,

1181
01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:44.880
well then we're gonna just you know, crush you. I mean,

1182
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:46.199
I don't know, I don't know
why it is. People don't recognize the

1183
01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:49.920
patterns. This is the way it
rolls exactly well, and that's something I

1184
01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:54.600
don't understand. With the damn JFK
record Steel, I mean, you know,

1185
01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:58.000
everybody said for years and years all
there's people still alive that'll be affected

1186
01:32:58.039 --> 01:33:00.159
by whatever they let loose, so
that that's why they're you know, still

1187
01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:05.439
holding part of and it's classified.
We've had so many things declassified over the

1188
01:33:05.560 --> 01:33:11.840
past thirty years, you know,
recent stuff that we have found out about,

1189
01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:15.880
and nobody's ever held accountable, nobody's
ever gone after Oh what about this?

1190
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:17.920
You know you did this back in
nineteen seventy eight. Yeah, oh,

1191
01:33:18.039 --> 01:33:21.560
well that's old news. You know, we brought that up back then

1192
01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:27.600
and disgusted. I really don't understand
what it is that is keeping them from

1193
01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:32.680
releasing the rest of these damn files. Who is it that's still alive that's

1194
01:33:32.760 --> 01:33:38.159
going to be hauled into court or
there's going to be so much everybody knows

1195
01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:43.039
the government is corrupt. Everybody knows
well, I say everybody, the majority

1196
01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:45.960
of people that have studied the JFK
thing over the years, no good and

1197
01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:50.279
well that it wasn't one guy that
was too big. It was too big

1198
01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:54.159
of an operation for one guy to
pull it off and be in the right

1199
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:59.760
place at the right time to do
all that was done supposedly, So who

1200
01:33:59.920 --> 01:34:03.560
is it that is still going to
have to suffer? Why can't we get

1201
01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:08.880
these damn things released? Especially since
we have had court orders saying, okay,

1202
01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:11.960
put it out there. Well,
here's the state get But they put

1203
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:15.079
that little caveat where the president has
the ability to override any decision on a

1204
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:20.199
document that's been in the archives now
for over what sixty years? It's time

1205
01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:26.560
to go ahead and get it out
there. Yeah, because legitimately any methodology

1206
01:34:26.680 --> 01:34:30.960
that was employed at that time is
gone. Anybody that but I've stated this

1207
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:34.359
many times, believe it or not, there is still classified information regarding what

1208
01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:40.039
happened to Abraham Lincoln. Okay,
so that tells you the whole story.

1209
01:34:40.720 --> 01:34:45.000
They will never release everything. One. Two, here's the fun part.

1210
01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:50.319
I think at a certain point,
the people that even know what is actually

1211
01:34:50.479 --> 01:34:55.960
dangerous because of the way all this
stuff is stored and encrypted and you know,

1212
01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:59.640
tied up with other things. I
think the people that actually knew what

1213
01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:03.439
was doing dangerous are no longer even
around. So you as no young people

1214
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:08.720
that have no clue that are now
in these agencies that have just taken the

1215
01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:14.199
position of let's just resist releasing everything, and that's it. I tell you

1216
01:35:14.319 --> 01:35:16.239
what, it wouldn't It wouldn't do
for me to be elected, because that's

1217
01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:19.000
been one of the first things I
set up. We're gonna have a weekly

1218
01:35:19.359 --> 01:35:25.119
broadcast and we're just gonna document dump
on you folks. You're gonna tune in

1219
01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:29.199
every Tuesday at eight o'clock to see
the president sitting behind his desk going,

1220
01:35:29.840 --> 01:35:32.720
Now, did you hear about this
one back in such and such such and

1221
01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:38.640
such when we overthrew blah blah blah. Guess who the guy was? It

1222
01:35:38.840 --> 01:35:43.640
was the valet for the individual that
we targeted. And here's the source.

1223
01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:45.760
Okay, put that on the bed. Now, what's up next? And

1224
01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:49.159
just go through the files. You'd
be great and just make it a weekly

1225
01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:54.680
a weekly podcast from your president trying
to you know, straighten out history for

1226
01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:58.640
you. Here's the documents, here's
what we got, here's who was involved.

1227
01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:00.920
Look, we all do what you
want to do with that information.

1228
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:03.159
A weekly podcast. You could chisel
off just a little bit of what they

1229
01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:08.640
give to PBS every year and run
it straight through NPR. No problem,

1230
01:36:08.760 --> 01:36:14.039
right, might as well allow No
we broadcast MPR because they want to put

1231
01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:15.720
their little spin on it. No, we would do it. You know,

1232
01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:19.119
we just sign a contract with iHeartRadio, you know, the President's podcast,

1233
01:36:19.239 --> 01:36:21.520
and go from there. No,
that's fine too. You know,

1234
01:36:23.119 --> 01:36:25.560
and also why not book of the
months too? You know, look,

1235
01:36:25.600 --> 01:36:28.359
you want the documents here they are
book of the month. Here's a book

1236
01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:31.079
of documents every month if you want
them. Here's the you know, here's

1237
01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:35.439
the release list, and we'll put
that on the front cover. Just to

1238
01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:39.079
tell you what's in the damn book. You know, no cover art,

1239
01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:42.880
just a list of what the hell's
in the book on the cover. I

1240
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:46.680
do the book. I'm just curious
as to who's ass they're covering for inept

1241
01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:51.479
two? Who is the main We
all know Hoover was inept. He ran

1242
01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:58.760
his own little political game, and
you know he had he had a background

1243
01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:02.119
information on everybody that have blackmailed the
world. We know about a Dullars,

1244
01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:08.119
we know about all of these politicians, We know about j LBJ and his

1245
01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:13.800
shenanigans. We know so much to
know that there's so much corruption in it.

1246
01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:16.239
How bad is it going to be
to know just how bad the corruption

1247
01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:20.279
is. I just don't understand it. And why people don't demand you know,

1248
01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:26.000
it's time to start throwing back the
veil, knocking the dust off this

1249
01:37:26.119 --> 01:37:30.159
stuff and clearing the damn record.
Well, we are demanding it constantly.

1250
01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:33.399
We are asking for it. We
are requesting it. We are you know,

1251
01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:36.760
every which way you can go here, and quite honestly, the only

1252
01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:40.520
way you're going to do it is
it is legally, and that's going to

1253
01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:43.159
take years. I mean, look
at how long they've been fighting court over

1254
01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:46.760
documents. It's the only way that
you can get a wedge in to get

1255
01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:50.159
the lid off. And then once
you get the lid off, they still

1256
01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:54.720
put these damned caveats in there.
Although you know it's up to the discretion

1257
01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:59.840
of it shouldn't be up to the
discretion of anybody except the archivist to put

1258
01:37:59.880 --> 01:38:03.079
it online, scan it, and
post it, plain and simple. That's

1259
01:38:03.119 --> 01:38:09.000
the rules. I hear you.
Look, I would love to see an

1260
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:15.520
overall sunshine, you know, just
mechanism put in place, get it done.

1261
01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:19.640
You know, everything that's fifty years
old or older done, because there's

1262
01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:25.399
no reason. There's absolutely nobody being
protected at that point. There is no

1263
01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:29.880
methodology, there is no individual being
protected. I don't get it. You

1264
01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:32.319
know, when they say, oh, it's about you know, assets and

1265
01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:38.520
methods, you know methods. Come
on, what method were you using in

1266
01:38:38.600 --> 01:38:43.359
nineteen sixty three that you're still using. We don't know about you know,

1267
01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:46.720
and what are you still using?
What could you possibly reveal that was being

1268
01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:51.760
used in sixty three that you know
people haven't imagined know about already, whatever

1269
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:58.000
is not in use? Come on? And who would be alive if you

1270
01:38:58.079 --> 01:39:01.359
were twenty years old? Okay,
if you were twenty years old in nineteen

1271
01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:05.119
sixty three, or you were twenty
five years old in nineteen sixty three,

1272
01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:09.920
you were a fresh agent with the
FBI, with the CIA, with any

1273
01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:15.119
of these organizations, you are at
least eighty five years old. Now if

1274
01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:18.039
you're alive, right, And any
of these guys who are in their forties

1275
01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:21.880
or fifties or whatever long dead,
it's over. They're not over one hundred

1276
01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:28.079
years old, So what are you
doing? But it just continues on and

1277
01:39:28.199 --> 01:39:31.079
on, And I think it continues
for the sake of continuing, and I

1278
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:34.680
think that nobody is at this point
aware. And I think the weirdest thing

1279
01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:40.319
is that it could be the big
secret. And I've always felt this way,

1280
01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:44.880
is that our government doesn't know what
happened at the end of the day,

1281
01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:47.359
with all the agencies, all the
investigators, all the inside dope,

1282
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:51.279
all of the surveillance, all of
the opening your mail, all of the

1283
01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:57.279
treking and tracking and having alerts and
following people around and everything else. Guess

1284
01:39:57.359 --> 01:40:00.479
what, I think at the end
of the day, they might know what

1285
01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:04.479
happened in certain amounts. Yeah,
I really feel that way. That might

1286
01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:10.039
be the weirdest and ugliest secret of
all is that all these people were employed

1287
01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:13.840
to you know, be aware,
to prevent things, to make sure that

1288
01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:16.520
things ran right and everything else.
And guess what, they missed it so

1289
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:24.000
badly that they don't know. How
about that? Would that be a shocker

1290
01:40:24.119 --> 01:40:30.479
for the world or not? What
do you think? I don't know if

1291
01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:33.079
they were involved, how do they
not know? Well, that's the thing

1292
01:40:33.479 --> 01:40:38.159
is that, you know, the
majority of them would not know. I

1293
01:40:38.199 --> 01:40:41.359
don't think you have a massive conspiracy, like I'm not. You know,

1294
01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:43.680
there are people that are like,
oh, you needed hundreds of people to

1295
01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:46.319
get I don't think so. I
think a small group. I don't know

1296
01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:50.920
how they kept it, you know, compartmentalized. It could be that some

1297
01:40:51.039 --> 01:40:55.079
of these things have leaked out and
they've gotten so mixed up with all the

1298
01:40:55.159 --> 01:40:59.359
rest of the monk that it's lost
now. But I mean, at some

1299
01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:03.359
point, you know, I think
that officially, like the people that ended

1300
01:41:03.399 --> 01:41:08.800
up inheriting all these offices, document
collections, stuff that they were supposed to

1301
01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:10.960
get. I think none of them
actually, Like, if you had to

1302
01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:15.279
ask the head of the CIA today
what their role was in sixty three,

1303
01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:19.399
he would not know. I think
the historians at the CIA do not know

1304
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:24.800
what the role was. I think
that they're discovering things as we discover them,

1305
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:28.960
believe it or not. I really
feel like at a certain point that

1306
01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:33.279
there is a massive, huge part
of this bureaucracy that's holding back these documents

1307
01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:41.359
that really legitimately does not know what
happened, you know, And I think

1308
01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:45.159
that would be the ugliest thing of
all. But you know, but I'm

1309
01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:47.079
a weirdo. You know that I
always think of things in an unconventional way.

1310
01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:53.119
So it is my it is my
thing. So look, we got

1311
01:41:53.159 --> 01:41:58.199
about seventeen minutes left. What should
we do with our remaining seventeen minutes?

1312
01:41:58.479 --> 01:42:01.039
Be Pete, what do you think? I don't know? We can uh,

1313
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:04.359
who's still on the line. We
still got Danny and UH and and

1314
01:42:04.520 --> 01:42:09.560
Jimmy James. Danny's line is open, Jimmy James is still on the line,

1315
01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:13.640
and nobody else is certainly a question
we can put to them do they

1316
01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:18.079
think that we'll ever find out?
And do they think the government knows?

1317
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:21.359
How about that? Okay, so
Danny, your your line is open.

1318
01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:25.359
I believe what are your thoughts on
that statement? I just made what what

1319
01:42:25.479 --> 01:42:32.920
about that idea? Oh my experience
in life, I just see so much

1320
01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:39.560
incompetency. You know, they you
know, it's like any investigation. You

1321
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:43.039
know, it was messed up from
the start, you know. So that

1322
01:42:43.279 --> 01:42:46.279
that's the way I see it is
you've got to have somebody that has the

1323
01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:50.399
insights that they're going to gather the
evidence. So I think you're right,

1324
01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:57.159
they probably don't know because they're too
incompetent to actually put it all together.

1325
01:42:57.439 --> 01:43:02.039
I mean, I mean, I
read Earl Warren's biography and reading it through

1326
01:43:02.159 --> 01:43:09.319
and I was just waiting to get
to the to the to the part about

1327
01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:15.000
the whole commission. And that was
the biggest anti clematic chapter I've ever read.

1328
01:43:15.079 --> 01:43:19.399
It was it was just pitiful.
It basically said Earl Warren didn't really

1329
01:43:19.439 --> 01:43:27.119
want to push anything because he had
such empathy for Jackie. It was.

1330
01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:30.560
It was the rest of the book
I thought was good, but that was

1331
01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:33.840
just horrible. So I think they're
in, they're just incompetent. They don't

1332
01:43:33.880 --> 01:43:38.760
want to know. Yeah. No, I think Earl Warren probably that was

1333
01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:42.760
an honest answer. He didn't know
much and he didn't want to know much.

1334
01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:45.399
Yeah, I think that's what it
came down to. And that's why

1335
01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:48.359
when you look at the executive sessions, that's why it's it's so brutally obvious.

1336
01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:54.640
Again credits to Walt Brown and the
Warren Omission, where he shows mathematically

1337
01:43:54.720 --> 01:44:00.600
the most active member of the Warren
Commission is Alan Dulles and he's asking questions,

1338
01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:06.079
he's guiding the the interrogations, he
is making requests and saying, you

1339
01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:10.720
know, making statements about what they
should should not do, what they should

1340
01:44:10.760 --> 01:44:14.239
and should not print. Dulles is
active. You might as well call it

1341
01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:17.840
the Dulles Commission because and I think
a reward was just there as a figurehead.

1342
01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:23.239
So you know what, I wouldn't
disagree with that being the summation there.

1343
01:44:23.560 --> 01:44:26.760
Well, I really didn't want to
upset Jackie and I don't know much.

1344
01:44:27.279 --> 01:44:30.439
Yeah, I think that might be
true, you know that. I

1345
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:32.560
mean, that's as stupid as that
sounds. I think that's exactly right.

1346
01:44:35.039 --> 01:44:39.439
So, you know, not surprised
there. So Danny, I'm gonna put

1347
01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:42.479
you on hold for a minute and
we'll go over to Jimmy James and see

1348
01:44:42.520 --> 01:44:45.560
what he has to say about that
idea that I threw out there, or

1349
01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:54.800
what Danny had to say. So, Jimmy, what's your thoughts. I

1350
01:44:55.000 --> 01:45:02.880
absolutely believed that the government has smoke
clues, jackk Uh. By the time

1351
01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:15.199
Oswalked took the bullet to the gut, the government in its entirety began to

1352
01:45:15.359 --> 01:45:25.199
cover up. And it was led
by r f K. I know this

1353
01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:32.159
by Professor Mallin's work and by the
phone calls. And you say that Dalls

1354
01:45:32.359 --> 01:45:38.319
was the most active member of the
commission. Maybe probably, but he was

1355
01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:44.000
there on the insistence of Robert Kennedy. Yeah. And I got the tape

1356
01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:50.039
through that that's in the LBJ library. Yep. An tape can't be disputed.

1357
01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:56.840
And that is true. Look at
Jimmy hang on a second. That

1358
01:45:56.960 --> 01:46:00.199
is absolutely true. That is absolutely
true that our f K, in the

1359
01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:05.359
early days of the investigation, is
one of the biggest proponents of the cover

1360
01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:10.840
up, shutting down investigations, shutting
down all kinds. And this is the

1361
01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:13.520
weird thing when people look back at
it and go, oh, well,

1362
01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:15.720
he wanted the truth and they were
afraid that when he became president, maybe,

1363
01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:23.000
but his actions do not demonstrate that. Immediately after his brother's death,

1364
01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:29.840
he was shutting things down for years
afterwards and just putting a stop to and

1365
01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:33.720
interfering. I mean, even in
Garrison's investigation, which is bizarre. I

1366
01:46:34.159 --> 01:46:39.159
like, that's one of those things
that you know, you're you're absolutely right,

1367
01:46:39.399 --> 01:46:42.800
it's absolutely it's absolute fact. And
Joan Mellon was the first one to

1368
01:46:42.840 --> 01:46:45.359
write about it that you know,
to to put a lot of that stuff

1369
01:46:45.399 --> 01:46:49.079
together that I that I know of, but I got to tell you it

1370
01:46:49.159 --> 01:46:54.399
seemed like that was that was ultimately
absolutely true, and I could never figure

1371
01:46:54.439 --> 01:47:00.479
that out. I would think that
my brother was canful yea. And Scars

1372
01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:04.319
has said at the time when he
was asked in like nineteen sixty seven,

1373
01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:11.319
well, how do you explain an
RFKS is I can't. It's inexplicable,

1374
01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:15.359
right, a brother murdered, I
would be acting exactly, It's the opposite,

1375
01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:20.640
right, No. I mean,
look, Garrison said a lot of

1376
01:47:20.680 --> 01:47:25.640
wild things here and there, but
that is very logical and has always been

1377
01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:30.840
a large open question, and he
knew it from personal experience. I mean,

1378
01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:33.359
you know that whole NBC white paper
would have never been created. Bobby

1379
01:47:33.479 --> 01:47:40.439
Kennedy dispatched the guy who created that
damn thing, which is right his right

1380
01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:45.079
hand man. Totally bizarre stuff there, and I have never been able to

1381
01:47:45.119 --> 01:47:48.880
figure that one out. I wish
somebody would explain it to me. Yeah,

1382
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:54.399
I don't know. I couldn't stand
they're trying to muck it up.

1383
01:47:56.800 --> 01:47:59.720
But don't you think you would think
you did it? Because he wanted to

1384
01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:08.399
be president and it's the nineteen sixties. He doesn't line. He wants it

1385
01:48:08.640 --> 01:48:13.560
behind them so he could get in
to be president. He doesn't want to

1386
01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:16.800
be called a conspiracy bah bah bah. He doesn't want this or that.

1387
01:48:17.640 --> 01:48:24.000
Do you think he was keeping a
little profile till after sixty eight. It's

1388
01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:29.000
a possibility, yes, but it
just I don't know. It just doesn't

1389
01:48:29.119 --> 01:48:32.039
ring entirely true to me. I
guess it's possible though, given the way

1390
01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:35.720
things were at the time. You
could be right, Jimmy, but I

1391
01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:39.960
don't know, Like it's just never
sat right with me, Like, why

1392
01:48:40.279 --> 01:48:45.680
in the hell would you not utilize
RFK, you know, RFK wanted or

1393
01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:54.479
RFK basically wanted to keep the dirty
laundry in the bag. And he knew

1394
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.640
that if people started to investigate this
thing, it was going to start going

1395
01:48:57.680 --> 01:49:01.560
off in avenues that he didn't want
the exposure to the Kennedy name and the

1396
01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:09.439
Kennedy I don't know dynasty. You
know, by that time, it was

1397
01:49:09.479 --> 01:49:12.680
amazing what Kennedy got away with while
he was in office. I mean the

1398
01:49:12.760 --> 01:49:15.560
stuff that went on behind the scenes, the running around, the affairs,

1399
01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:19.600
the you know, people were witnessing
all this stuff. They knew what was

1400
01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:25.159
going on. See, I would
say wanted and and Robert Kennedy was worried

1401
01:49:25.159 --> 01:49:27.600
about it coming out. He wanted
to keep all that dirty crap out of

1402
01:49:27.640 --> 01:49:31.720
the way. He knew he could
run after LBJ got out, and he

1403
01:49:31.840 --> 01:49:36.359
probably win. See. I don't
think it's it's the Kennedy name. But

1404
01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:40.159
I don't think it's the affairs and
all that. I don't think that's the

1405
01:49:40.279 --> 01:49:44.720
problem. I think if anything was
a serious problem is that if you started

1406
01:49:44.760 --> 01:49:48.880
to dig into covert stuff and if
you really thought that this was blowback that

1407
01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:55.720
was somehow tied to the intelligence community, that it could emerge all of the

1408
01:49:55.840 --> 01:50:00.880
sort of off the books operations that
the Kennedys did part dissipated, and you

1409
01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:05.800
know, yeah, that's part of
it, but I think that's just another

1410
01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:10.560
aspect. That's just another piece of
dirty laundry that's coming out of the bag

1411
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:13.920
when you look at what they were
involved with in Southeast Asia, when you

1412
01:50:13.960 --> 01:50:16.520
look at the back door negotiations that
went on during the Cuban missile crisis,

1413
01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:20.840
When you look at all of these
things, not only did he want the

1414
01:50:20.920 --> 01:50:25.199
personal side of it covered, but
he wanted the political side of it covered

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01:50:25.239 --> 01:50:28.319
too. He didn't wanted this stuff
coming out because he didn't want to show

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01:50:30.039 --> 01:50:33.960
JFK's involvement in this stuff, because
because he knew it would tarnish his chances

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01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:40.239
of being able to run. He
knew once JFK got elected, RK knew

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01:50:40.279 --> 01:50:42.600
that all he had do is follow
light right along and it would be his

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01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:45.279
turn. I mean, you know, you're looking at political dynasties back then,

1420
01:50:45.359 --> 01:50:49.880
the Democrats, the hold that they
had on certain institutions. At the

1421
01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:54.279
time, he knew it was just
a matter of time before he'd be running,

1422
01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:57.119
and he wanted to get LDJ out
of the biggest thing was when LVJ

1423
01:50:57.239 --> 01:51:00.279
said he was not going to run
for reelection. That opened the door.

1424
01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:05.640
And you know, RFK did what
he had to do after the assassination to

1425
01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:11.880
cover as much stuff as possible,
like Jimmy said, to pay his way

1426
01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:15.439
in there and make it easier for
him to get the job. It was

1427
01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:19.359
all I think, it was all
personal. It was all personal reasons that

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01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:24.880
he did it. See to me
though, Okay, but you know the

1429
01:51:24.960 --> 01:51:29.319
other side of that is just like
the sympathy votes came through for you know,

1430
01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:32.920
Kennedy's unfinished work and all that kind
of stuff. I mean, if

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01:51:32.960 --> 01:51:36.239
it would have been seen that,
like you know, his brother was actually

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01:51:36.319 --> 01:51:42.039
a victim because he was out there
doing these different things that you know,

1433
01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:45.439
like that he was trying to get
past that Johnson ends up getting credit for

1434
01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:48.239
and all that. If he would
have came out and been on the side

1435
01:51:48.279 --> 01:51:51.600
of getting the truth out there,
even if it was kind of dirty,

1436
01:51:53.159 --> 01:51:55.720
maybe it would have you know,
maybe it could have been turned the other

1437
01:51:55.800 --> 01:51:59.560
way too. It could have been
an advantage to have the truth reveal.

1438
01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:05.039
I mean, I guess maybe it's
just one political calculus versus another. Not

1439
01:52:05.199 --> 01:52:09.560
when you figure the industrial complex behind
it. I mean, you look at

1440
01:52:09.600 --> 01:52:11.720
this, you know, everybody says, oh, JFK was going to get

1441
01:52:11.760 --> 01:52:13.840
us out of Vietnam and he was
going to do this, and he was

1442
01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:16.319
going to do that. Well,
we don't know that. Yes, he

1443
01:52:16.439 --> 01:52:19.920
made statements that people interpreted as being, you know, we need to do

1444
01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:24.399
this, we need to do that. The manic Kennedy wanted to start withdrawing

1445
01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:28.600
stuff out of Southeast Asia. He'd
had to fight every Congressman and senator out

1446
01:52:28.640 --> 01:52:31.359
there that was being sponsored by Raytheon
in general, Electric Milcke, eat,

1447
01:52:31.439 --> 01:52:34.640
all these other places. He'd have
had to have dealt with that. He

1448
01:52:34.760 --> 01:52:40.359
might have gotten us out of Vietnam, but just like Nixon, he always

1449
01:52:40.399 --> 01:52:43.000
swore to get it out, but
he waited till his last term to do

1450
01:52:43.159 --> 01:52:45.520
it. Just like Trump, he
was going to get us out of Afghanistan,

1451
01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:48.479
but he didn't get the second term
to be able to do it,

1452
01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:54.319
and we looked at who won and
how bad they fumbled it. So yeah,

1453
01:52:54.399 --> 01:52:59.640
I think part of the legacy of
JFK is what could have been.

1454
01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:03.960
And everybody likes to espouse on how
great, how honky dory everything in the

1455
01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:06.199
world would have been if Kennedy had
just been able to, you know,

1456
01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:12.520
just been able to stay on for
another term and fix all the world's problems.

1457
01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:15.880
Kennedy, we find out, is
no different than any politician today.

1458
01:53:16.479 --> 01:53:23.119
He had his side deals as backdoor
deals, backroom deals, and stuff even

1459
01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:27.800
further back than back room I mean, that's the way politics was back then.

1460
01:53:28.079 --> 01:53:31.119
He just didn't see it exposed to
the public like it is nowadays because

1461
01:53:31.159 --> 01:53:34.960
of the media that we have and
you know, the twenty four hour news

1462
01:53:35.039 --> 01:53:40.199
cycle, So we haven't found out
anything about Kennedy. That's what kills me

1463
01:53:40.239 --> 01:53:43.119
about all these guys that you know, just, oh, Kennedy had just

1464
01:53:43.199 --> 01:53:45.640
been around, everything would be fine, and I'm going on, he's a

1465
01:53:45.840 --> 01:53:54.199
politician involved in the dirtiest work in
the United States, and that's politics and

1466
01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:58.199
the backroom deals that get I mean, that's how he got elected was backroom

1467
01:53:58.279 --> 01:54:02.760
deals and problems with stolen elections.
I mean, we talked about election deniers.

1468
01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:06.239
Now. You know what would have
happened if we'd had the twenty four

1469
01:54:06.279 --> 01:54:10.800
hour news cycle back then and they
started looking into you know, the wards

1470
01:54:10.840 --> 01:54:17.159
in Illinois and Sicago and how votes
were tallied for Kennedy. It's so different

1471
01:54:17.159 --> 01:54:19.960
than it is today, except the
fact that we find out stuff quicker,

1472
01:54:20.680 --> 01:54:26.319
I got you. They whole JFK
myth. I mean, this whole I

1473
01:54:26.560 --> 01:54:28.880
just tears me up. Well,
they want to they want to turn them

1474
01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:31.000
into a saint. Some people I
never have. I've always said, you

1475
01:54:31.079 --> 01:54:33.920
know, look, I think we
would have been better off with him as

1476
01:54:33.960 --> 01:54:40.079
opposed to LBJ. But you know, and I do believe Bill Birdie.

1477
01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:44.399
Yeah, but I also believe that
Vietnam would have been avoided. Now I've

1478
01:54:44.479 --> 01:54:48.039
seen arguments made and and there was
even some TV show that did this whole

1479
01:54:48.119 --> 01:54:51.119
thing, like, hey, what
would have happened if Kennedy had been spared

1480
01:54:51.199 --> 01:54:56.880
that day? You know that that
he actually, uh you know, winds

1481
01:54:56.960 --> 01:55:00.359
up getting us involved in a nuclear
war in his second term. You know,

1482
01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:04.079
people have gone through all sorts of
speculations. It could go in any

1483
01:55:04.159 --> 01:55:09.800
direction. We'll never know because things
turned out the way they did. But

1484
01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:12.000
the fact that, yeah, I
guess there's a lot of ways to look

1485
01:55:12.079 --> 01:55:14.680
at it. But look, we're
down to the last couple of minutes here,

1486
01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:18.600
So I'd like to try and give
Jimmy and Danny like a minute a

1487
01:55:18.640 --> 01:55:23.680
piece to say goodbye for the week, and then try and give you to

1488
01:55:23.720 --> 01:55:27.199
find a word v pieze. So, Jimmy, what's your final word for

1489
01:55:27.279 --> 01:55:45.479
the week? Is that it?
That's that's my shout out Toboozy Biden,

1490
01:55:45.840 --> 01:55:50.199
who was eaten by cannibals and World
War Two. But it turned out he

1491
01:55:50.439 --> 01:55:56.039
was because I found a picture of
him. Turns out he's just he just

1492
01:55:56.399 --> 01:56:02.399
lived a life of leisures over there
and pop New Guinea. Interestingly, he

1493
01:56:02.560 --> 01:56:10.279
still votes and maybe next week going
peach him too, So there you go.

1494
01:56:10.680 --> 01:56:13.279
Meanwhile, let's go to Danny and
see what his final word for the

1495
01:56:13.319 --> 01:56:16.000
week is. So, Danny,
what's your final word for this week?

1496
01:56:17.640 --> 01:56:21.159
My final words is I'm just going
to go back to my childhood, much

1497
01:56:21.279 --> 01:56:27.920
more pure version of Superman standing there
truth, justice in an American way.

1498
01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:31.560
I really wish we'd live up to
that standard and act like the superpower that

1499
01:56:31.680 --> 01:56:38.359
we will we choose to believe.
I think we should negotiate a peace settlement

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01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:45.680
in Ukraine, and we need to
also stop the warring in Israel and Gaza.

1501
01:56:46.239 --> 01:56:50.000
I just wish that we had to
have a collective courage to do So.

1502
01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:55.840
There you go, Danny, thank
you for calling in, and I

1503
01:56:55.960 --> 01:57:00.239
appreciate you and your sentiments. For
sure, not necessarily agree with anything anybody's

1504
01:57:00.239 --> 01:57:03.560
saying at the end here, But
got to tell you, if somebody's on

1505
01:57:03.640 --> 01:57:08.279
the side of piece, I generally
got to vote with them, but not

1506
01:57:08.439 --> 01:57:13.039
necessarily with the same methodologies. But
there's a way, there's a path,

1507
01:57:13.439 --> 01:57:16.119
there's always a possibility, so long
as we keep breathing and keep going b

1508
01:57:16.279 --> 01:57:21.479
Pete your final word for the week, my friend, Well, all I

1509
01:57:21.520 --> 01:57:25.439
can say is, if you know, if you want all this stuff uncovered,

1510
01:57:25.479 --> 01:57:27.920
you want to find out the facts, and just go ahead and vote

1511
01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:30.199
for me when it comes to election
time. And when I get in there,

1512
01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:34.239
I'll I'll rule with an iron fist
and make these people who think they've

1513
01:57:34.239 --> 01:57:41.840
seen fascism open their eyes and get
to the bottom of all of our problems.

1514
01:57:41.880 --> 01:57:45.720
You know, I'd like to day
that we could all be brushing glitter

1515
01:57:45.840 --> 01:57:49.960
off our desks from the unicorn farts
that crapes through the room and make everybody

1516
01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:55.039
have a honky doory day. So
if we want to solve all the world's

1517
01:57:55.079 --> 01:57:57.479
problem, just write me in.
I know I'm not on the ballot,

1518
01:57:57.520 --> 01:57:59.880
but what the hell, it's worth
the effort, It's worth the ink,

1519
01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:03.199
It's definitely worth it. Being so
other than that I'm gonna say thank you

1520
01:58:03.319 --> 01:58:06.199
for another week. Thank you Jimmy, thank you Danny for calling in being

1521
01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:11.359
a part of the conversation. Go
to o'chelli dot com and get the support

1522
01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:15.600
button. Every little bit helps,
and other than that, looking forward to

1523
01:58:15.680 --> 01:58:17.880
next week sure, and me too. And by the way, I'll be

1524
01:58:17.960 --> 01:58:23.439
getting out the zip folders this weekend. I sent out all of their recens

1525
01:58:23.479 --> 01:58:27.680
on the zip folders this past week. But for those of you that are

1526
01:58:27.760 --> 01:58:31.359
supporters at the website, yeah,
you're getting your zip folders this weekend,

1527
01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:35.720
and that's the way that that goes. Meanwhile, I guess we'll just end

1528
01:58:35.760 --> 01:58:40.479
it in the usual way here on
a Friar's Day and tell you that no

1529
01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:43.359
matter who you are, where you
are, when you are, I am

1530
01:58:43.399 --> 01:58:47.800
merely O'Kelly, all of you are
indeed the effect. And I do appreciate

1531
01:58:48.520 --> 01:58:54.760
any donation made at o'chelly dot com, especially during certain times, and this

1532
01:58:54.920 --> 01:58:58.439
is one of those times. So
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1533
01:58:58.560 --> 01:59:02.119
that do. Thank you for those
that support, and this is how we'll keep going