WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:16.359 Get some facts and come back and seebe. Get some facts and come back 2 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:20.640 and seebe. Don't throw up salaries or other things. Get some facts and 3 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:25.000 come back and Seebee. You can't handle the true now told our players you 4 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:27.760 need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats 5 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:31.399 in here. Looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my 6 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:35.280 extra bands on, I got my other shoes. Be a doll. We 7 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:38.880 don't need no meals. We don't need no cats. We need more dogs. 8 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:44.119 Why not a detainer? Ah, you're not that detained. We weren't 9 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:46.640 good. There's no sense of asking me things about the game. I'm telling 10 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:48.920 you. We laid an egg. So I'm not gonna break it down for 11 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:53.799 you. He sucks. He sucked, but he laid an egg. That's 12 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:55.960 all I have to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break 13 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:58.920 it down for you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. 14 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:03.840 We have to figure it out, and we went all right. Lions will 15 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.680 try and figure out their schedule. We've got it set and we will talk 16 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:11.120 with our friend Colton Pouncing from in the athletic coming up at the bottom of 17 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:17.359 this hour. You could follow him on Twitter or on ex Colton underscore Pouncy 18 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:21.760 on Matt Sheppard. Welcome to Xues and Bros. Ben is our producer. 19 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:25.079 At times he gets a little loaly, so join him on the Myer Hotline. 20 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:30.480 Eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. Tigers lose to 21 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:34.280 zip to the Marlins yesterday. They've been shut out in back to back games. 22 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.719 They have today off and they're headed to Arizona next. What a weird 23 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:47.319 deal for Willie Castro boneheaded play against the Yankees in the New York for nothing. 24 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:53.079 When he was in center field, he didn't know how many outs there 25 00:01:53.120 --> 00:02:00.680 were. This is what it sounded like field his hip, the line drafts 26 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:04.840 centerfield, coming on Castro, he'll make the catch and he thinks this two 27 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:09.520 men out coming home and scoring on the sac fly his torrees. Oh what 28 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:14.919 if boadheaded played by Castro? He was running to the dugout thinking that was 29 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:21.560 the third out and his two nothing eches. He made a blunder yesterday as 30 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.319 well, he misplayed a ball in center field. And this when you look 31 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:30.800 how he cadillacts it, thinks his two outs. I love that phrase. 32 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.560 He look how he cadillacts it. Yankees would go on and win it for 33 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:37.439 nothing, all right. In the NBA, Dallas beats OKC one oh four 34 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:39.520 ninety two. They shoot fifty two and a half percent. They're up three 35 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:43.840 games to two in the series. Luka Doncic was the best player on the 36 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:49.360 floor thirty one points, ten boards, eleven assists. The Thunder, one 37 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:53.439 of the best offensive teams in basketball, held to a season low ninety two 38 00:02:53.479 --> 00:03:00.360 points. Meanwhile, Boston enns Cleveland season one, thirteen ninety eight, Jason 39 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:05.919 Tatum led the way, one of sishi of a triple double. Lion's schedule 40 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.719 is out. As we mentioned, we're going to talk with Colin Colton Palsey 41 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:13.280 of the athletic coming up. We do know this. They're on National TV 42 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:19.199 six times, five times on the Blank Night Football, Monday Night, Sunday 43 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:24.639 Night or Thursday Night Football. It's the eleventh toughest schedule in the league. 44 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:30.240 And in the NHL, Colorado upends Dallas five to three. They scored three 45 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:34.560 times in the third. They trail three games to two. They had to 46 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:38.960 have it, all right. Golf, one of the majors is taking place. 47 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:44.159 It's the PGA Championship in Valhalla. That is in Louisville, Kentucky. 48 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:51.520 Right now, Luke Donald, Doug gimm and Matt Wallace are all at one 49 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:57.919 under par on a course that is seven thousand, six hundred and nine yards. 50 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.719 The quote unquote favorites with Tief A little bit later on today the Meyer 51 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:08.120 hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. Ben, let's 52 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:11.360 go there. Yeah, we got Trucker B listening on ninety six point won 53 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:16.839 the game. Nice Trucker B. How are you today? Frustrated? Just 54 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.000 two days in a row? You got me riled up on these Tigers because 55 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:25.000 right I, you know, I no, well no, because it's the 56 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:28.879 same thing that goes through my mind. Why do we not have? This 57 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.800 is what bugs me is a lineup? Why do you not have a set 58 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:38.720 lineup? He moves people from bat and first that and forth ba and fifth 59 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:43.399 bat and third, you know, and he keeps shuffling him around, and 60 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:51.839 that just to me brings inconsistency and continuity. It's just that there's no cohesiveness 61 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:57.160 set away, and the same with the with the field who's playing every day. 62 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:02.839 Like you said, why do we not have they set stable lineup and 63 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:10.720 a set stable defense? It's just frustrating to me. And the thing too, 64 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:13.879 is like the other day I was getting ready to leave. I had 65 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:16.920 I got to leave by certain times to the laws and stuff, but and 66 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:20.959 I was empty r and I had another driver text me and it was with 67 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:25.120 the results from this pitching. He said he leave them in for the night. 68 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:29.480 I said, heck, yeah, he deserved it. But they're too 69 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:35.319 concerned about pitch count. And I gets frustrating that they just keep shuffling pictures 70 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:39.680 in and out like that, even if they're having a good game. And 71 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:46.519 I just I don't understand it. I just don't know what the logic is. 72 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.399 And I understand the left on right and the right on left. I 73 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:56.279 get why he's doing that, but like you said, why do they not 74 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:00.839 all that's not always why he does it, all right, He doesn't always 75 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:08.120 go lefty righty. He goes based on the type of pitchure you're getting against 76 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:12.399 the type of hitter he's facing in the situation. So, for example, 77 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:17.000 if he wants a ground ball pitcher, so Jason Foley is that guy to 78 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:24.399 induce possibly a double play. It's not necessarily right on right or lefty on 79 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:28.519 left. That's not how he that's not what his mindset is. He he 80 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.839 looks at the numbers, he looks at the tendencies and things of that nature. 81 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.920 But let me let me ask you this, and I think you bring 82 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:42.639 up a really interesting point. Do you look at their unwillingness to commit to 83 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:48.399 a specific batting order with guys in certain spots as a weakness or a strength? 84 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:56.040 I think it can be a strength when you have a set lineup, 85 00:06:56.079 --> 00:07:03.480 because like what call it earlier was talking about no protection, Well, you 86 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:13.720 aren't going to have that protection if you have let's say, Hiamayas behind Torkosen, 87 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.759 I just all throw three fighters outside and he's gonna swing them while they 88 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:24.920 know you pitch to tarcleson or Green. Okay, but here's the only thing 89 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:29.000 I would say there, trucker By, is this, if your team isn't 90 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.800 very good offensively, and you would agree with me right that they are not 91 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:39.000 very good offensively, is that fair to say? No? Not? Okay, 92 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:43.600 not at all? Okay, Yeah, zero's two days so well, 93 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.800 but it's not just the two days. Last year there are only two teams. 94 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.439 Last year was only two teams that scored fewer runs. This year, 95 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:55.959 there's a handful of teams at Seattle, it's Washington, Miami, Pittsburgh, 96 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:00.439 Saint Louis, Toronto, and Chicago, who have scored fewer runs than the 97 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:05.399 Tigers. So you would admit. So if they don't have that team, 98 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.279 what do you do as a manager. You can't keep doing the same thing 99 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:13.439 every day. You have to try to find something that will ignite your offense, 100 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:18.680 if that requires moving guys around in the lineup. Look at the beginning 101 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.800 of the year, Spencer Truckolsen was hitting in the top four. When you 102 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:28.759 struggle and you don't go hit a homer until game number thirty five, you're 103 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.839 not going to keep hitting him third or fourth. You Truck or b would 104 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.639 go crazy. Ran No, I understand that, don't know, but I 105 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.799 mean, but he hasn't started out that way. Now, Yeah, you 106 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:45.559 reward those, you know, like Perez. Okay, he comes up, 107 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.879 you don't know what the heck he's gonna do. You just got him in 108 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:54.279 propelling all of a sudden. Oh, this kid is shown more than what 109 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.679 we understand. So you rewarded and moved on. Yesterday had a couple of 110 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:03.399 bonehead swings of loaded but anyway, yeah, yeah, and that's and That's 111 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:07.440 what frustrates me is I sit there and I look and I watch his team, 112 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:15.799 and it seems like when there's guys in scoring position that are just putting 113 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:20.120 the bat on the ball, try to create something, they're out there to 114 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.720 try to be heroes and fling for the fences, and I get so frustrated 115 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:28.159 with that exit velocity. You hit the ball hard. You hit the ball 116 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.240 hard. To me, I don't care if you hit a bloop single or 117 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.000 a dribbler down the line or whatever. I hit as a hit, as 118 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:39.120 a hit, as a hit, Yeah, you gotta move the runners along. 119 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:45.000 I get it. Exit the exit filo, the exit velo. I'm 120 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.879 sorry to had to cut you off because we got to go to a break. 121 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.879 The exit velo is important because it means you're squaring the ball up. 122 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:52.919 But yeah, I hear what you're saying. It's it's it's difficult when you've 123 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.919 got guys betting one seventy one, two sixty seven, two fifteen, and 124 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.679 you know two forty one, you're not finding a lot of pop there. 125 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:07.440 Our quick time out Colton Ponce at the bottom of the hour, back with 126 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:13.320 more of your thoughts on the other side. On exies and bros in the 127 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.000 Dam step up to the play with Eagle Casino in Sports, the mobile sports 128 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.600 book app that you can bet on all your favorites all year round, including 129 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.320 of course are national passed ONIME. 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Some overreacted to 138 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:58.320 his homeless slump, but as he said, it was too small a sample 139 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:03.039 size to get down. He needed to get the feeling and then it's repeatable. 140 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.159 I don't know if he'll duplicate his thirty one home or ninety four RBI 141 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:09.120 numbers from a year ago, but he's got to be close if this team 142 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:16.919 hopes to contend. We're teeming off our tenth year at the Meyer LPGA Classic 143 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.879 for simply gives. Get ready for the best who are yet to help neighbors 144 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.720 in need while enjoying golf, food and family fun. 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I know we got some texts 153 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.039 I've been waiting on and Ben, my apologies want to get to those texts. 154 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.240 But we had some good callers and we had some important content that I 155 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:35.639 thought needed to be mentioned. Let's get to some of those texts right now, 156 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.519 Ben go ahead, all right. If the Tigers don't win this division, 157 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.120 aj Hint should be fired. He has allowed the rest of the season 158 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:46.039 to wake up these bats in any way possible. Maybe starting with some passion 159 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:52.600 would be a good start. Managers and coaches are always going to be the 160 00:12:52.639 --> 00:13:05.720 first people to be ridiculed and have those poignant fingers pointed at. You can 161 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:11.480 only do so much with the roster you've been given. I'm not sure about 162 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:20.639 the passion. I don't get that. I would love to know what you 163 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:26.720 need in passion, Like do you where's the passion you see in Dave Roberts, 164 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:37.279 Mike Shilt, San Diego, Stephen Vote in Cleveland? So far? 165 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:48.879 I think sometimes we misidentify passion or the lack thereof in this regard. And 166 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.080 I've said this time and time again. If you're going to a game, 167 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.000 can you see the manager in the dugout? Depending on where you sit, 168 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:05.240 what is It's the expectation. It's not like he hasn't been has shown passion. 169 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:11.960 He's been ejected from games in his managerial career and in his Tigers managerial 170 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:16.279 career. If that's what you think is passion, do you want him chewing 171 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:22.120 out guys in the dugout? Are you hoping to read about closed door meetings. 172 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:31.879 Just because he's not screaming and yelling on the field of play doesn't mean 173 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:37.559 that there is a lack of passion. He's the same manager who is highly 174 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:48.159 successful in Houston. He's one of the best managers in baseball. There's no 175 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.399 doubt about that. Now, you can disagree with Moves. I get that. 176 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.960 I think every fan base is going to disagree with their manager and their 177 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:05.399 coaches at some point, even if that manager is successful. But the passion 178 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:09.000 thing, I think you need to leave at the door because you're not seeing 179 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.519 him. There's no camera on him showing him. I should say, for 180 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:18.759 the entire game. Game last three hours, two hours and forty minutes. 181 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.080 You're not seeing him for two hours and forty minutes. You're seeing him on 182 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:28.000 cutaway shots. If you're at a ballgame, are you only watching him? 183 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.240 Are you watching him try to set things up, talk to his bench coach, 184 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.600 talk to his pitching coach, talk to certain players. Just because you're 185 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:39.360 not losing your mind doesn't mean you're not passionate, but I do under so 186 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:45.679 I completely disagree with that aspect of it. I do understand how your frustration 187 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:50.159 boils over if this team doesn't win the division and points toward the manager. 188 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:56.000 I wonder how much that is pointed toward the front office. The front office 189 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.399 is the one who put this team together, gave you the choices. Is 190 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:07.919 there a player who is not currently on this twenty six man roster who you 191 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:15.039 think should be on the roster and it's aj Hinch's fault. The other question 192 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:19.279 I would ask you how many I've always felt this as false. How many 193 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:25.440 games do you think a manager wins or loses for a baseball team, Because 194 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:27.639 if you talk to the baseball elite, they'll tell you five or six where 195 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:32.279 they make a difference, which I think is bull crap. I think it's 196 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:37.080 more than that, much more than that, especially in baseball, because pitching 197 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:41.320 changes rosters, pinch hitting situations, and so on and so forth. If 198 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:48.000 this team doesn't win the division, some thing's got to change drastically. We've 199 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:55.240 said this for years now, that this division is winnable. You have to 200 00:16:55.279 --> 00:17:04.759 ask yourself first, is this team underachieving based on what are there players so 201 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:11.480 good that you think the manager is getting in the way, and then you 202 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.759 can then you can debate on whether or not the manager should be fired. 203 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:26.319 Are they underachieving or is this team just not good enough structurally from a roster 204 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:30.279 standpoint, which is what I think it is so far this year. Are 205 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:36.839 players underachieving? Certain players? Absolutely, but when you look at the roster 206 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:41.480 you didn't think it was that good anyway, if you're being honest. All 207 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:45.039 right, what's another text there, Ben, Yeah, it says an insert 208 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:49.519 and former Allion's head coach. Over the years, and after four years for 209 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:55.279 most of them, if they underachieved, they were shown the door. Aj 210 00:17:55.680 --> 00:18:00.000 though flowers are thrown his way and fans think he has no say in these 211 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.960 moves and hires are delusional. That's from fat Yeah. Freddie's right. I 212 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:10.640 don't know who in the world thinks that he's not having to say that's ridiculous. 213 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:18.160 He and Scott Harris have a saying just about everything. Absolutely. On 214 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:23.799 the other hand, the difference Freddy with the Lions, bad example, they 215 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:33.960 never had a winner four years of Jim Schwartz. You're damn right X amount 216 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:37.160 of years with Rod Mayornelly you're damn right X amount of years with Steve Mariucci. 217 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:42.599 You're damn right. I mean, come on, Freddy, Wayne Fatz 218 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:48.680 is the all time winning his coach in Lion's history, also losing coach in 219 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:57.640 Lion's history. They weren't winners, dude, They never won anything. A 220 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:03.920 J. Hinch has won something. He won a world championship. In addition 221 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:11.119 to that, he took over a team that was god awful, absolutely horrid. 222 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:19.319 You know that he gets to Detroit. Look at the lineup, for 223 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:30.640 crying out loud, It's not that hard to figure out. He comes in 224 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:37.680 in twenty twenty one and he won seventy seven games that nobody thought that they 225 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:44.480 would win. And you did it with Eric has, Jonathan Scope, Willie 226 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:48.839 Castro, Nico Goodrum, Jammercandelario, Robbie Grossman, a Kill Badou, No 227 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:59.359 Mar Mazara, Harold Castro, Victor Reyes. Come on, man, I'm 228 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:03.279 not making excuse uses for him. And yes they took a turn for the 229 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.920 worst the following season and then last year with seventy eight wins. Look at 230 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:18.400 the lineup that they have, use like you could complain about certain guys absolutely 231 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.880 like Scott Harris trading for Nick Maton for crying out loud, Where's Nick Maton? 232 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.799 Now? Oh Wolfy? Let's all, let's all get fired up for 233 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:34.400 Wolfy right. Two of the three guys he traded for from Philadelphia for Greg 234 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:38.519 Risotto and Cody Clemens. Cody Clemens still playing for HM. Greg Risota is 235 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:42.759 still playing for You get one guy, Matt Feerling. It's a bad move, 236 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.480 But look at the lineups. As I said earlier in the show, 237 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:52.960 how many other managers you're the manager in the other dugout? How many other 238 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:56.759 managers are looking at the Tiger's lineup and going, Man, I'll tell you 239 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.400 what. I gotta have a Keel Bado. I gotta have Nick Mayton, 240 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:07.079 I gotta have your bias. I gotta have Zach McKinstry. 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When you looked at the 267 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:41.880 Lions schedule, what's the first thing that jumped out to you, besides the 268 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.240 national appearances that the Lions so rightfully deserve because they're a fun team to watch. 269 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:48.839 Yeah, I think you have to start with week one, and you 270 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.319 know, I think that's such a sign of respect to have a match like 271 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.480 that, you know, against the Rams, after what we saw in January 272 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:59.079 in that matchup. This is really the second year in a row that we've 273 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:00.720 seen the kind of get that respect right. Like last year they started with 274 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.680 the Chiefs on Opening Night. I thought that was really cool. I thought 275 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:07.599 that was sort of the next step for them, so, you know, 276 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:10.960 even the national games aside, just to get that match up, you know, 277 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.759 Sunday night football against the Rams in Detroit. Welcome Matthew Stafford back again. 278 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.480 I thought that was a great first week matchup and a sign that again 279 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:22.160 the Lions that are just continuing to get this sort of respect across country. 280 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:26.319 I read that they have the eleventh toughest schedule in the league that is based 281 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.440 on records from a year ago. Overall playing the teams that they're playing, 282 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:36.200 the AFC East, the NFC West, obviously within their own division. How 283 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:37.599 do you look at the schedule in general? I don't want you to pick 284 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:42.240 wins and losses. That's not fair because Colton Pouncy doesn't know who's going to 285 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.319 be on the Lions yet. He doesn't know what the teams that he's playing. 286 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:49.440 That's just strictly for editors and for people to try and you know, 287 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.839 try to read too much into a crystal ball. But overall, when you 288 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.880 look at the schedule, what do you notice about it? And then you 289 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.400 know, maybe kind of get you jacked up a little. It about the 290 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:03.559 eleven toughest schedule. Yeah, you know, it does look like a tough 291 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.000 schedule on paper. Obviously, when you finish first place the year before, 292 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:08.720 you're going to have a first place schedule next year and play some of those 293 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:12.680 teams, So yeah, you're gonna play some tougher teams. At the same 294 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.559 time, I think the Lions are a better team than they were a year 295 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:18.799 ago, and they went twelve and five with a second place schedule, you 296 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:21.880 know, last season, so I think it kind of bounces out when you 297 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:25.319 look at the additions they made this offseason, you know, revamping the cornerback 298 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:30.319 room, replacing Jonah Jackson with the Pro Bowl guard and Kevin Zeitler adding defensive 299 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.000 tackle with JJ readers. So I look at the pieces they made, I 300 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:36.400 think they can still compete with pretty much anyone on their schedule. There's gonna 301 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:37.680 be some tough games, of course, you know, they go to San 302 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.720 Francisco late in the season. That could be a game that decided the one 303 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:47.000 seed potentially in the NFC. They've had a lot of tough games on the 304 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.480 road. They play the textans of Cowboys on the road, so not could 305 00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.440 be easy by any stretch. But I do think they've shown they can compete 306 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.880 with some of the better teams on their schedule, and they're not gonna be 307 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.319 a fait to take on any team that they play. Yeah, you mentioned 308 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:06.720 Zeitler, Carlton Davis really big. What about Marcus Davenport. How much of 309 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:10.200 an impact can he make at the defensive end spot. Yeah, to me, 310 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:12.319 it's all about he can stay healthy. You know, this coaching staff 311 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:15.599 kind of you know, saw him up close in New Orleans and Campbell there 312 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:21.519 and Glen they're part of the vigne that drafted him back then and when he 313 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:25.039 was really playing his best football in twenty twenty. I believe this twenty twenty 314 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:30.119 one season a high passless win rate, was getting guys one on one, 315 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.000 was set in the edge, was stopping the run, just getting some pastorless 316 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.000 shoots on the outside. He's kind of this do it all defensive end and 317 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:40.799 the Lions haven't had a player like that opposite of Aiden Hutchinson. And so 318 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:42.319 to me, the question is can he stay healthy. He really hasn't since 319 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.279 that twenty one season. Even back then, I believe he only played eleven 320 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.039 games, so he's really never proven that he can do it over the course 321 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:52.960 of a full season. If he can even get like twelve games out of 322 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.839 him, then you supplement maybe some time this with some other guys stepping up. 323 00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.559 You know, you can get a productive season out of him. It's 324 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:03.000 just aboutter can you stay healthy? Can he rediscover that magic from a few 325 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:04.720 years ago. I think it's easier said than done. You know a lot 326 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.359 of people want to plugging him in as that guy, but I still think 327 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.839 we need to see it first before we kind of you know, write that 328 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:15.200 in Stone Colton pounce from the athletic joining as you can follow my ex Colton 329 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.599 underscore pounds. He check out his stuff in the Athletic It's always great stuff. 330 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:26.160 Jared Goff, we know has got the contract extension. He's earned it. 331 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.839 Whether or not the price tag you think is warranted really doesn't matter right 332 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.559 now because he's going to be a Lion for at least the next five years 333 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:40.839 and he's the highest paid player in franchise history. What was your overall feeling 334 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:48.559 on the contract extension in terms of timing and cost from alliance perspective. Yeah, 335 00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.279 otherwise, I think it makes sense and I was maybe a little bit 336 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:52.839 surprised they didn't get it done around the same time they did, you know, 337 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.039 Saint Brown and Sewell, you know, around the draft. But I 338 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.079 know, you know, these things take time, and quarterback contracts a little 339 00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:02.079 bit tougher to figure out. But yeah, I mean in terms of the 340 00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:03.640 money they gave him, like, yeah, I think that's sort of the 341 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.359 going rate for an NFL quarterback that's playing on a high level these days. 342 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.799 And you know, this is the organization that really values Jared Goff and the 343 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.359 contributions he's made to this this froster, this franchise. You know, he's 344 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.119 helped them win two playoff games, He's want a division title for them. 345 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.200 He's sort of been the glue to all of this and kind of the face 346 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.839 of their rebuild as a guy that was you know, cast aside and left 347 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:29.079 the bed in Detroit, so people said years ago. And he's bounced back 348 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.359 in ways that a few people thought was imaginable. So, you know, 349 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.319 Brad Holmesold was every step of the way, like we doesn't see him as 350 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:38.240 a bridge. You know, it's it's easier to get worse at quarterback than 351 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.240 it is to get better, and so he kind of telegraphed these moves like 352 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.480 years ago, and so for it all to come full circle. You know, 353 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.359 this past week I thought was really cool. He's a third of that 354 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.599 you know, Big Trio that they want to get done this offseason, and 355 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.119 you know they're ready to go forward with him as a quarterback. And I 356 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:59.319 don't think that's surprising help our audience with how this shuts up for this team 357 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.200 long term. Everybody wants sustainability. It's not easy in the NFL. So 358 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.319 that's what makes it really impressible what Kansas City has been able to do, 359 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.200 or Buffalo or Pittsburgh in the past, or even San Francisco to a certain 360 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:15.920 extent. What does this mean for this team financially moving forward with key pieces 361 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:19.279 due up at some point in the near future. Yeah, it certainly makes 362 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.079 it tougher, right. I think I wrote that they're kind of moving past 363 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.519 the hunt and phase and things are getting real now. Because we all knew 364 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:27.599 this day was coming. They're going to have to get all these big money 365 00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:32.359 extensions to their core players to keep these guys around and keep their window open 366 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.200 as long as possible. So it was really a matter of time. But 367 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.759 now that we're here and these contracts are real. It does make sort of 368 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.480 the cap math a little bit tougher going forward, and you have to kind 369 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.759 of pick and choose guys you want to keep around the guys you've already paid. 370 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.039 So that means, you know, Carlton Davis is the free agent in 371 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.920 twenty twenty five, you just drafted two young quarterback cornerbacks, you know, 372 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.640 early in the draft class. Maybe you let him walk and save some money 373 00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.680 there. You know, Taylor Decker, I know he's been, you know, 374 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:03.720 such a figure and a force in the city, but he's probably gonna 375 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.119 want some big money, you know, next offseason when he's a free agent. 376 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:07.680 So it's like you kind of got to you can choose your spots. 377 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.519 I'm not saying that they're not going to bring him back, because I think 378 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:14.400 they've had conversations with him, but those are decisions you have to kind of 379 00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.880 kind of make when you're giving out the big money four hundred and forty four 380 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:22.119 million dollars to three players over the next few years. So it's they're always 381 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.680 going to get here. It was an inevitable position for a team like this 382 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.200 that's been drafting well to a point where you can resign your own guy if 383 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.519 that's what you want to do. But it does make it more real and 384 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.240 those decisions are gonna be tougher for Brad Holmes moving forward for sure. Going 385 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.599 back to Jared Goff, this is the reaction I got from some people who 386 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.880 disagreed with the financial commitment. I think it's more about the fact that Joe 387 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:51.200 Burrow is the only other quarterback who makes more money on an annual basis than 388 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:55.559 Jared Goff, which you know, I've tried to tell people it's going to 389 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.039 fluctuate. I mean, it's all about timing in sports in general. But 390 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:04.279 Colton went People say anybody could step in and do what Jared Goff did for 391 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:10.480 the Lions offense because he's not mobile like Patrick Mahomes for example, doesn't have 392 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.839 that massive arm like CJ. Stroud for example. What do you say to 393 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.680 those people when they say, just about anybody, I'd save the money, 394 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.599 spend it elsewhere. Anybody can go in there and set play action because you 395 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.279 have such a great offensive line in a solid running game. Yeah, to 396 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.559 me, I would say, why this was with what's working right now? 397 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:33.119 You know, like the Lions haven't been this good in a very long time. 398 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:34.440 We know how hard it is to get to this point to where they 399 00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.440 are now. I think Jared Goff has kind of earned the right to kind 400 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.799 of see this through and see how far he can take this team. You 401 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.480 know, he has taken a team to a super Bowl before in his career, 402 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.319 He's taken this team you know, you know, you're talking thirty minutes 403 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.039 away from a Super Bowl last year and the way it ended. So I 404 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:53.279 give him a chance to kind of see it through with this group and see 405 00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:57.720 how far he can go. I get everyone wants the chief quarterback and you 406 00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.079 know, the shining new toys always with neck, you know, Hennon Hooker. 407 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.400 I know a lot of people are high in him, but you've got 408 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:07.680 a really good quarterback in jerick Off that has the full tention of this locker 409 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:09.519 room, the full respect of it. And if you were to move on 410 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.640 or try to rock about right now, I'm not sure how well that would 411 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.720 go over in that locker room. And you know, you probably make a 412 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.279 lot more enemies and friends with a move like that. So to me, 413 00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.640 it's like, look, you're in a great position. See where you can 414 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.400 take it, you know, ride it out and then maybe make a decision 415 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:28.799 from there, but you know at this point they're locked into him, so 416 00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.079 it's kind of just about say how far he can take them and kind of 417 00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:37.000 letting the play out. You're around him and the team every single day, 418 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:43.640 especially during the in season. What makes him so amenable to his teammates because 419 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:47.680 you see it all the time. I'm on a russ Saint Brown set it 420 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.359 it at the draft night for crying out loud, people are cheering it at 421 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:58.240 Comerica Park. Why is he so likable within his locker room? Yeah, 422 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.480 I think he's just like this calming president. You know, he takes a 423 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:07.599 lot of criticism nationally even locally sometimes and he just kind of like lets everything 424 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.839 bounce off of him. Like it's really remarkable to see for a guy who's 425 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.839 been through what he's been through in his career. I think his teammates say, 426 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.519 see the way that he responds to everything that comes his way, and 427 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.960 you know they respect him for it. And you know, even during the 428 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:22.960 playoffs or about the playoffs, getting to the playoff run last year, the 429 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.839 regular season when they clinched, he saw a lot of young players on this 430 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.000 team kind of leaning on him as a guy that's you know, been part 431 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:31.519 of a deep postseason run, like what should we expect? And he was 432 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:36.319 sort of the calming veteran presence in that room. He really wasn't that when 433 00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.160 he was in LA because you know, Sean McVay, he was always kind 434 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:42.240 of, you know, over his shoulder. He didn't really have you know, 435 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.000 sort of the freedom to act like this veteran. But he has that 436 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.480 now in Detroit, he has, you know, the playoffs experience that people 437 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:52.799 rely on him for. So he really captured this locker room. Then I 438 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.480 think that Rams game, you know, this whole team, I mean the 439 00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.039 whole city really, but the team especially wanted that game for him. That's 440 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.839 why Alm and Rab was talking about it. Opening During that week, we 441 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.119 saw the Jared golf chance around the state and then even drafted and you know, 442 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:08.960 a couple of weeks ago. That was really cool to see. So 443 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:15.000 it's abundantly clear that he has the respect and attention to his locker room and 444 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.400 I see it on a daily basis, Like these guys rally around him and 445 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.719 they think that he's their guy and he's their leader. So yeah, it's 446 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.199 been really cool to see. He is Colton Pountcy of the athletic King fom 447 00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:29.239 on ex Colton Underscore Pounty. He joined us here on Exes and Bros. 448 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.159 I know it's difficult to answer because of where this team is at. We 449 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:37.079 don't know what this team's going to look like exactly. But what do you 450 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:42.400 think it's still lacking, if at all. That's a good question because I 451 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:46.719 think this roster has done pretty well to kind of address their holes this offseason. 452 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.559 Like I mentioned, he that reader plugging that defensive tackle role. I 453 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.400 think he's going to get the best out of ly McNeil. The cornerback room 454 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.920 of Carlton Davis and Terry and Arnold nannas Rachsow, I think are really going 455 00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.519 to help. If I had the point of something, you know, I 456 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.559 think it might be the edge position. I do like d Import, but 457 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.000 the question is always going to be healthy with him. You know. I 458 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.440 think they lost a few pieces this offseason, and you know they're counting on 459 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:15.639 James Houston to be healthy and for Josh Paston to making another leap. I 460 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:17.239 thought they could have used another body in that room. I know they added 461 00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:21.840 a CFL DEFENSEI Player of the Year Matthew Betts, so maybe he could be 462 00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.400 a rotational player that helps him out. But you know, relying on Marcus 463 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:28.719 Davenport for a full season, it's kind of a tricky deal. So maybe 464 00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.119 they try to get that you know, edge by by mandy position across maiden 465 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.199 huts to send and hope for the best. But I did think they could 466 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:37.519 have us at least warmer body there. We'll see if they add them before 467 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:42.840 camp get started. But if Mark Stavinport goes down at any point during the 468 00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.519 season, I think you feel a little a little you know, worrisome about 469 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.519 the edge position a little bit. We know what their strength was a year 470 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.440 ago is up front. I'm a big believer in the way Brad Holmes has 471 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.960 built this organization from the inside out. What do you think their strength is 472 00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.360 going into the season in twenty twenty four days five? Yeah, I still 473 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:05.639 think it's the offensive line. You know, the way these guys talked about 474 00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.159 it, it seems like they think they've gotten even better there, which is, 475 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.840 you know, pretty pretty impressive if true. Just the addition of Kevin 476 00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.920 Zeitler. I think Allie McNeil, you know, the Lions obviously played the 477 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:20.039 Ravens last year. Allen McNeil was so impressed with Zeitler. He couldn't get 478 00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.760 anything you want against him, and he was, you know, pretty happy 479 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:24.639 to have him on his team. Now, you know, he's a guy 480 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:30.079 that's respected across the league, great and pass pass protection. You know, 481 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.199 can can handle business in the run game. So you put him in a 482 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:37.079 mace with Pne Sewell and Frank Ragnow and Taylor Decker, you know, Grant 483 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.119 Glasgow and those guys. This offensive line is ready to go. I think 484 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.079 they're going to remain one of the best of football. That's gonna help Jered 485 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.840 Golf out and help the backs out, the receivers, the tight ends. 486 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.400 I think this offense is ready to go again. And you know, honestly, 487 00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.559 the defense has gotten there too. So this really looked like a complete 488 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.519 Lions team. And I'm sure a lot of people are happy about you know, 489 00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.239 the roster Arad Holmes is going to go through. Yeah, you and 490 00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.599 I would both agree that Ben Sue is one of the best at his position 491 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.480 and one of the best offensive linemen no matter the position, in all the 492 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:10.400 NFL. But Frank Ragnow is the key to that team's success up front because 493 00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.440 of the responsibilities of the center. How do you think Dan Campbell has and 494 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:21.320 will continue to manage keeping one of the most important pieces in his team healthy 495 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.239 and fresh, knowing his injury history. Yeah, it's just kind of monitoring 496 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.519 the workload that he gets. I imagine there'll be a lighter offseason for him 497 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.119 just to kind of, you know, keep him first about the season. 498 00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:32.679 You know, you know what you can do at this point, so you 499 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.639 don't need to push them in OTAs or even training camp really and during the 500 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.440 season, you know, there's usually a day off for him, probably earlier 501 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.880 in the week. Just let him rest and you know, fackt him in 502 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.039 the game plan later on. You know, they did that really well last 503 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.079 year, I thought. I know, he still got banged up and those 504 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.320 injuries are inevitable sometimes, but that's all you can do with the player. 505 00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.719 Like Frank, I think he said his toe might be inoperable at this point, 506 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:01.440 so it's gonna be a thing that bothers him, you know, for 507 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.320 the rest of his career, as long as he eats slaying. So yeah, 508 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:07.079 it's just about work workload management, you know, keeping them fresh, 509 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.800 you know, picking them, choosing spots with him and at the end of 510 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.440 the day, you know what you can get from him. You want him 511 00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:14.760 playing at a high level and you want him to be fresh. So that's 512 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:16.039 what it's all about to me. All right. Lastly, and you wrote 513 00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:22.159 about this in the Athletic. What did you like about their draft most this 514 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.679 PASSA YEA yeah. I think they got some steels in the sixth round, 515 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:30.320 like Christian Mahogany and Makaia Wingo. Those are two dudes I think could be 516 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:35.679 either rotational pieces or starters within a year from now. For Wingo specifically the 517 00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.320 defensive tausu, I think you can provide some pass row shoes. Those are 518 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:44.280 two top one hundred players on the Athletics board that fell to pick number one, 519 00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:45.199 eight nine and two tens. So I think they got a couple of 520 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:50.119 steels there. I love how they addressed the cornerback room early. You know, 521 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.639 to me, it wasn't about like there's a lot of talk about all 522 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:54.559 the lines having drafts at the corner to the top one hundred picks. It's 523 00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.559 Brad Holme's been here. But the way you listen to Brad talk, he's 524 00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.719 not going to reach for a position just because he needs a position. He's 525 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.800 going to draft the guys that are high on his board the best player available. 526 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.280 It doesn't regardless of position really, so the fact that the two highest 527 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.320 players on his board I picked number twenty four when they traded up, and 528 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.440 then picked number sixty one second round the corners, I just knew that was 529 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.079 a perfect storm of need and BPA and it kind of worked out perfectly even 530 00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:23.519 in the middle rounds. You know, Givan Manu, the British Columbia tackle, 531 00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:28.800 Sioni Ivaki. Those are two guys that might have been unconventional picks, 532 00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:30.679 but they just fit. What the lines are all about is these gritty, 533 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.679 hard nosed, high ethic guys. I think those guys will contribute sooner rather 534 00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:38.199 than later. So I really like the draft last room. I think it 535 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.880 kind of fits what they want to do, you know, from a character 536 00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.480 standpoint and town wise. Yeah. So well said, and it's what I 537 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.119 love and respect most about Brad Holmes. He drafts guys. He seems like 538 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.440 the guy who stays true to his board just because he may have a need 539 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:59.719 if that player is a lot further down his board than the guy he sees 540 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.119 he's taking the guy he sees, he stays true to it. I think 541 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:06.280 that's a big reason why he's so successful. It's obviously why you're successful with 542 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.920 the athletic. We appreciate the insight, we appreciate the time and the thoughts. 543 00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.079 Have a great rest of your week and weekend. Don't be a stranger. 544 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.280 We hope to talk to you again. Thanks Colton Pouncy for all that 545 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.000 you do with the athletic. Absolutely thanks for having me on anytime you bet 546 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.559 all right, you can follow him on X Colton Underscore Pouncy. Great stuff, 547 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:24.639 man. I mean, that's what it's all about, right there. 548 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:30.199 The opportunity to get a guy and give you and reinforce what we've said for 549 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.360 a long time. And how good Brad Holmes is it what he does. 550 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:38.400 There's a reason they're on national TV is often they're fun to watch, but 551 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:44.280 they're a good football team because it's a good organization and he is at the 552 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:49.880 top of it. You follow your leader. The Lions have done that. 553 00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.960 He stays true to his board. He picks the best player available. Our 554 00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:59.320 thanks to Colton Pouncing, Our thanks to Ben our producer. Great job today 555 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.039 is always thanks to your phone calls and your text keep them coming. We'll 556 00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.599 be back with you tomorrow. On a Friday. Exes and bros. Don't 557 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.840 forget Bill Simonson, the Huge Show Monday through Friday three to six later on 558 00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:15.639 this many of these great network affiliates. 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