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Today, everybody, this is Less
Striding. Yes, yes, I know

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aka Surviving Man and you're listening to
Brian on Sasquatchatus. You guys are welcome

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back to Sasquatchis. Thank you so
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It is Friday. I hope you
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You have an amazing guest lined up. But before we get there, I

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want to invite you. If you've
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we've got a great guest lined up. We've got Johnny two Bears from

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my old home state of Georgia,
and Johnny is here to share some of

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his personal experiences with Sasquatch and that
includes a couple of sightings of these things

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and we get into all kinds of
things as far as bigfoot research, and

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he tells some other amazing stories from
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with But I'll let Johnny tell you
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Fans group on Facebook. But enough
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here for the story, so I'm
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back, relax, and enjoy the
show. I fooks want to welcome my

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guests to the show. It is
Johnny two Bears from Georgio. Welcome to

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the show man. Thanks for having
Yeah, it's my pleasure. I'm glad

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to have you. I've been looking
forward to this conversation. So let's get

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right into us. Talk about this
bigfoot thing. First and foremost, the

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most people's mind is when you talk
to anybody about bigfoot is what in the

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world got you interested in the subject
to begin with. Oh man, it

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was pretty much forced on me.
I live, like you said in Georgia,

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kind of pretty semi rule close to
about fifty minutes outside of Atlanta.

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Our house if you imagine a horseshoe. We live off the main road about

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a quarter of a mile and then
at the end of that gravel road is

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three houses in like a horseshoe,
and then behind us is about I think

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it's around twenty five thousand acre wildlife
management area. I didn't grow up having

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any interest in the subject about the
only the only thing for when I was

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a kid is I remember one of
the first movies that I could rent on

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my own was Boggy Creek. But
I just thought that was fictitious. I

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remember it scaring the tar out of
me as a kid, But I don't

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know what my father was thinking.
But anyway, I had no experience.

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I had one guy that I worked
with that talked about it because he saw

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one. I'm a veteran Marine Corps
and one of my buddies I worked with

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he was in the Army, and
he talked about being in boot camp on

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Firewatch and watching a sasquatch walk up
through the window and look up in the

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window and then walk off. And
I completely believed him. You know,

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he wasn't the type of guy to
make up stuff like that, and I

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was like, wow, that's crazy. Well, fast forward to about around

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probably twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,
we started having very strange activity around my

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property and around my neighbor's house,
and it was stuff like it actually really

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seemed personal when it came to them. They had a couple of teenagers that

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lived there, So my initial reaction
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They'd have like something hitting the side
of the house. They'd have rocks and

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sticks thrown at the house. One
of the teenagers actually had thrown at him

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while he was walking down the driveway
with another family member, and I would

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something would happen over there, and
there'd be a bunch of commotion and I

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would run over there and we'd all
try to figure out what was going on.

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And first I was like, well, it's gotta be kids, it's

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gotta be they ticked somebody off in
neighborhood up the street that they go to

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school with, and then they're just
getting harassed or something. Yeah, But

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then things started happening over here.
And one of the very first things that

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happened, and at the time,
I didn't think it was really a big

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deal. I didn't realize what it
was. But the dogs I've got I

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raised German shepherds and I've got three
German shepherds right now, but back then

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I had two. And I've got
a horse fence that goes around my property.

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And the dogs went nuts and I
walked over the fences at night.

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I've got a flashlight and I hear
walking, bye beetle walking and it's maybe

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only maybe about thirty feet away from
me, but it's in a bunch of

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brush and stuff. So I shined
my light over there and whatever it is

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quit swapping. And then I turned
the light off and it starts walking again.

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Bipeetle steps, crunch, crunch,
crunch. I turned the light on

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and it stops walking again. I
turned it off and it starts walking,

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and I'm like, what am I? And I can't see anything, even

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to this day that still relexes me. I mean, it's woods, but

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it wasn't super thick right there.
It was just like briars and brush and

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some pine saplings. I've since cut
all that down, but I couldn't see

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anything move. I didn't see any
trees move nothing. But this happened.

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I probably did this about I don't
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this, turning the light on and
turning it off and making it stop and

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then letting it walk again until it
got out of earshot. It never ran,

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it never got it, never did
anything crazy. That's all it was.

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And I'm like, man, that
was a little weird, a little

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disturbing. And then like I heard
my first wood knock at the time,

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I didn't realize what it was.
Same thing, dogs go crazy. I

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go to step up on something to
look over the fence or to get a

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higher look, and I hear lock. And what was so strange about it?

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It sounds like a telephone pole hitting
another telephone pole. And I could

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not, for the life of me
figure out how a human made that sound,

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Like what could somebody use back there? And that was closed too.

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That was probably only maybe fifty sixty
feet to make that sound. Through all

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this, I don't even know why
my brain even opened up to the possibility

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of it being Bigfoot. I think
some of it was we would watch Finding

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Bigfoot with the kids, just as
you know, have it on the background.

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It was something we could all watch
together, you know. I think

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I probably picked some stuff up accidentally
from watching that, like the wood Knocks,

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I put that together to it.
You know, later on, progressively,

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I started realizing that, I mean, I am a combat veteran,

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and I could not figure out a
lot of that's ego. I could not

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figure out how somebody was getting away
from me at night, how they were

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just running circles around me, how
nobody was able to see who it was.

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How I'm not finding footprints or you
know, shoeprints. Some of the

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areas it was like they were escaping
through were super thick, and they were

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doing it with no lights. You
know, all this stuff is just like,

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what what is going on? Well, one of the things that really

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really started sending me down that that
line was my neighbor would call the cops.

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They had a family member that actually
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they had no problem calling the cops
and something crazy would happen, and they

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were they were calling the cops like
once every two weeks. Is how bad

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it got, Like they were being
harassed. The only only thing those people

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ever said they saw one of the
kids said, at the end through the

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woods up towards this neighborhood about seventy
five yards at night, he said he

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saw a big black man in all
black standing in the middle of the trail,

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and then he yelled at him,
and then the guy stepped into the

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woods. That's the only thing anybody
ever saw when it came to a person.

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So, you know, later on
putting all this together, I'm like,

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wait a second, any times if
you heard that description, you know,

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So one of these times, I'm
sitting out on the front porch and

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I hear rifle fire, a R
fifteen. I'm like, oh crap.

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So I go in there and I
get my gun and I run over to

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his house and the guys standing out
in his front yard. I'm like,

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dude, what happened? He said
that? Sob through a rock at the

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window. This time, he said, I called the cops. Well,

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the cops are on the way,
so I don't want to stand out there

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with a gun. So I'm like, all right, Well, I'll get

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between your house and my house over
there in the woodline. So I walk

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off. I'm probably about seventy five
yards from him. He's standing in the

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middle of his yard. I'd take
a knee in the woodline. I'm looking

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around, listening, and all of
a sudden, I see a step about

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eighteen inches long come flying out of
the woods and hit him right in the

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chest, and it scared the crap
out of him. It hits him,

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and he's like oh, and he
runs off and he falls going up the

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steps and runs in the house.
Well then the cops show up and he

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comes out, talks to him,
blah blah blah, And that in itself

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was just like what am I dealing
with? Because he's got a gun on

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it? What idiot's gonna stand in
the woodline and throw a stick at him?

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Like what what is this? So
I think that's when my brain really

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started going in that direction, and
I wound up finding my first track about

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a half a mile away, and
then that was really when I was like,

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oh man, maybe these things are
real. Maybe this is a sasquatch

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that we're dealing with here. Because
I was pretty much at the end of

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my rope. We all were cold
figure out what it was, you know,

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And then I found that track and
it was perfect. We were thinking

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about it though was three It was
about thirteen inches long, but it only

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had three toes. And then later
on I find out that's pretty common actually,

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And I've actually found that track two
more times around here, and it's

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the right foot. For whatever reason, this one's right foot's messed up.

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It's only got three toes. So
I find a track. Now. I've

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got a summer where I had to
take some time off from work because I

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had a couple of surgeries. I
had a rotator cuff surgery and then I

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had a discreplace in my neck.
So as I was recovering, I would

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go out behind my property and walk
around, looking around and stuff, and

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I'm like, look, I got
I'm going to get to the end of

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this. So I started doing nightly
patrols, armed patrols, flashlight gun whole

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nine yards and I go out there
and make noise and kick the trees and

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you know, trying to get something
to happen or to scare off whoever this

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person was or whatever I was dealing
with. Probably did that for about two

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weeks, and then one of those
days I was working on my kid's treehouse

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and I got done, probably about
an hour before the sun went down.

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I walk up on the steps,
I sit down sitting there drinking coffee,

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and behind the tree house, past
the fence, down in the woodline.

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There's a tree about this bigger round. It's daylight, and it just starts

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going like this, shaking like crazy. Well, I can't see the bottom

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like ten feet of the tree because
there's a hill there and it goes down.

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But I run over there and I
look and I'm like, well,

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I don't see anything, blah blah
blah. But then well, you know

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what, I'm definitely going out to
night because obviously that was somebody over there,

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you know. So I get all
my stuff together. After it gets

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dark, I opened the door.
My dogs come out with me, and

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they instantly run to the fence barking. I'm like, all right, this

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is it's game time. So I
got my pistol flashlight and I used to

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have one of those cheap or cheaper
flear the TK scouts, and I had

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that with me. So I walk
out there. I go out of my

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fence and there's this trail in between
me and my neighbor's house and it's dark.

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I leave the dogs in the fence
and I get to the top of

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this trail and there's this big boulder
there and I'm walking and I get about

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right to that boulder and rocks start
hitting all around me. It was like

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somebody just took a handful of rocks
and threw them up in the air,

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but not one of them hit me. And I kind of back up,

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and I'm like, all right,
what's going on here. I'm shining my

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flashlight looking around, and I'll start
walking forward again. Well again. Right

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when I get the same spot,
rocks start hitting all around me again.

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I'll stop and I back up a
couple of feet and I say, if

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you hit me with a rock,
I'm going to shoot you. You know,

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I'm thinking I'm dealing with a person. Nothing happens. I don't hear

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anything, so I keep walking.
I get down to the end of the

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trail. I'm looking around and I
don't really hear much. I don't see

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anything. I'm out there about ten
minutes, like spinning around with my pistol

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my flashlight. Look I'm going down
the trail a little bit looking around.

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I don't see anything. I go
back up to the top of the hill

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and I'm standing there looking over in
my neighbor's yard with my thrble, and

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I see some kind of wrote it
and then from behind it, it kind

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of looks like something bigger, but
it's through the trees and I can't really

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tell. And I'm standing there looking
at it, and from about thirty feet

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to my right, this thing growls
at me. It goes and right there,

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instantly I knew Sasquatch was real and
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There was nothing else on the planet
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mean, it just threw rocks at
me, and then it got within.

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I was, what's it's one of
the doing this. That was the one

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time that really really scared me.
Number One, I didn't realize they were

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real at all. Number two,
how close it got without me hearing a

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thing. It really scared me so
much so that I mean, I'm standing

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there. I wish this would have
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You know. I was standing there
with a thermal in my hand, and

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I was so scared that all I
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off of it, and I'm just
I'm basically just bracing for the impact is

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what I think is about to happen. And I'm afraid to pull my gun

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because it hasn't done anything yet.
Well what if I pull my gun?

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You know? Is that going to
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anything much about them, you know, this is kind of just a at

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this point, I'm just kind of
guessing that they're real. So I say,

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all right, man, I get
it. I understand, and then

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I just back up real slow and
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then from that day forward, I
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I can't believe these things are real. You know. It takes about

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another I want to say, about
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from that incident before I actually saw
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and it was at night. I'm
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are on the front deck. It's
real late at night, and I'm looking

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out towards my neighbors, the one
that's got had all the problems before,

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and they've got their lights on their
outdoor lights, and I can see the

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sun the whole side of their house. And it's during the wintertime, so

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it looks like a movie screen pretty
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all white movie screen. Well,
one of them comes walking right in

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front of the house. It's on
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It's the right side profile, and
I'm watching it and it's like just

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like you see in the movies,
like where the monster jumps out of the

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screen, but it's walking right in
front of their house, so I can

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see perfect full body silhouette of the
right side. I can see how its

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chin is just huge, it's got
long, it's hair really thick, almost

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like the goofy hair, you know, that's what the silhouette looks like.

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And it's walking, and i'd just
stand up to get a better look.

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And when I do, I see
it's right side and it turns to its

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upper half of its bodies facing And
when people say four feet wide, they're

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not lying. This thing was every
bit four feet wide. Its shoulders were

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absolutely massive. I guess the mate
it's probably about. It wasn't like eight

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feet tall, it was. It
was under seven feet. I mean it

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was big. It'd make a really
it'd be a basketball player, but it

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wasn't, you know, a big
monster. But that last is probably about

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six seconds three seeing it from the
side, and then about three seconds head

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on, and then it was out
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so I couldn't see it anymore.
I got all my stuff together, walked

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out there, look and see if
I could see princes. Didn't see any

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prints, but that was the first
time I saw one. This whole process,

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I had started a small Facebook group. All I was trying to do

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was try to find somebody to go
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And so I started a small group. I wound up finding one partner.

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His name's Mike Taylor. He's actually
a professional adventure athlete. He climbs a

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bunch of mountains and does trail runs. He ran across the Gobi Desert,

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you know, all kinds of crazy
stuff. Good partner. So him and

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I start going out, start getting
a little bit of evidence. I'm putting

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up stuff that I find. Well, there's a guy that contacts me that's

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on the page. His name's Captain
Joe Cayley, and he is a former

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Army officer, infantry officer. I
think he was a ranger. Yeah,

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he was a ranger. He's paying
attention to everything that's going on around my

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property. And he contacts me and
tells me his story, which is I

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think it's about six years ago now
this happened maybe seven, but he was

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on a base in Georgia. It's
called the Mammoth Sniper Challenge, and he

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actually it together. This whole event. He was in charge of, like

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planning out the path they take and
where they shoot from the whole nine yard.

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You know, he's planning this thing
out. Well, he's on the

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firing line and he's spotting for a
bunch of shooters and he's looking down at

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about thirteen hundred yards away over I
think it's past the last burn. There's

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a firebreak or a road that runs
back there. And he saw one walk

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across that that road, and he
saw it, you know, with a

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spotting scope. You know, let's
say you can says like a telescope.

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Basically you can see the craters on
the moon with it. You know,

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I'm sure you'll all see the nikon
pictures. Well I'll just imagine that.

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But a spotting scope. That's how
good of a look he got at this

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thing. So when we start talking
and he tells me about his sighting and

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blah blah blah. And this goes
on for I don't know, maybe a

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year. We get a couple of
other people together, Angie Williamson, she

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is a parole officer. She just
had a she had friends that had stuff

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happened she was interested in, and
she's a para officer. She's really good

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at talking to people, putting events
together, all that stuff. So she

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kind of started talking to us,
kind of brought her on, you know,

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with the page, and one day
Joe just asked me, He's like,

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hey, man, let's start a
podcast. Stay tuned for more sasquatch

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out to see. Right back after
these messages, I was like, uh

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no, I don't want to have
anything to do with it. In fact,

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at the time, I was looking
for someone who had a podcast just

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to give my stuff to. I
didn't want to deal with it. I

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didn't want to deal with the groups. I wanted to do was see one

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of these things during the day and
then proved they were real and that's it.

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But after talking to Joe more about
it, he's like, look,

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man, seeing everything that you know
you've had happened around there, as you

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know, made me want to come
forward and talk about what I've seen blah

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blah blah, and I'm all right, man, let's do it. So

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we started building a team. We
went from just the podcast, so I

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wanted to build an actual research team, which we did we have. We've

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got Scott Deforced, the guy was
telling me about before. He's also prior

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Marine Corps. He was a cop
for He just retired. I think I

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don't know how long it is,
thirty years or something, but he just

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retired. He's also a member of
the BFRRO. He's an investigator with them.

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We've got Hank Rosser. He used
to be a firefighter. He had

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to keptable. Things happened that he
got him interested. We brought him on.

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Let's see who else. Mike Taylor, and then a guy named Happy

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Harris. Now Happy he lives outside
of Augusta, or used to, and

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that is the area where Captain Joe
lived. Well, Happy Harris contacted Captain

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Joe and told him about an incident
he had when he was nineteen years old.

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This is over thirty years now.
His buddy owns a massive property that

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has been in This guy his family. It's a King's grant, which means

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their family has owned this property since
before America was America. That's how long

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this property has been in and their
family. Basically, his sighting or his

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story was, he was nineteen,
he'd been out this property one hundred times.

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He was by himself. This day. There's a pipeline that runs down

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the center of the property. He
was walking in the pipeline trying to find

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somewhere to hunt from. Well,
he bucks up to this makeshift hunting blind.

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Looked like he had been built by
somebody hastily, is what he said.

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So he went and sat down in
it, I think, he said.

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He was sitting there about thirty minutes, and then all of a sudden,

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from behind him, he heard two
of these creatures talking in that samurai

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chatter, communicating with each other,
but right behind him, and they were

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yelling basically in this samurai chatter.
It scared him so bad he passed out.

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He said. He tensed up so
bad that later on the next day

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he looked at his rifle and there
was his fingernail prints were in the rifle

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from where he squeezed. He said
he was sore for about two days,

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his whole body just from tensing up
so bad. But he passes out thirty

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minutes later. He wakes up sitting
up in the front seat of his truck

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with the door open, that was
three hundred yards away from where he was

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at. He says he has no
idea how he got there. Now,

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he won't say it, but I
think he would probably carried. You don't

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remember how he got there, right, So we have him on. He

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tells his story. I got to
think and I'm like, man, that's

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very odd for these things to put
their hands on people like that, Like

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you hear it sometime. But really, in my head, what that meant

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was they either knew him and they
were trying to protect him, or not

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knew him, like personally, but
had seen him grown up out there,

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or they just didn't want any problems
and they didn't want other people to come

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out there. Now they had no
reason to touch him. Why they could

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have just left him there? You
know, if there wasn't some type of

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there was some type of thinking process
involved, which you know I'll get into

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later. But these things are a
lot smarter than people think. They're not

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just some dumb eight running around.
There's actual They had the ability to plan

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things out and we've seen this happen. So he tells us the story and

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we're like, man, I think
we really need to go check this guy's

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place out. So we put a
team together, me Captain Joe Happy,

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another guy he's no longer with us, yeah, I think that's it.

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So we all go out there the
very first night. We get out there,

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we look around first, we look
around during the day, and we

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find some of the best evidence that
I've found in the field period. Within

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the first ten minutes of getting there. Happy he's trying to find the spot

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where it all happened it Scott Divorce
finds a track way there's a dear feater

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out there and near where this incident
happened. He finds tracks that suggests that

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they were running from that area,
pretty big tracks. So we follow these

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tracks into the woods right there.
Now this area used to be shooting lanes.

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There's three lanes that are cut for
shooting. Well, it's all grown

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up. It's got saplings and everything
else in it. And then behind that

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is just the woods. So we
walked through these shooting lanes following the tracks,

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we get back in the woods and
we find a bed. One of

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the coolest pieces of evidence we've gotten
so far today. It's about ten foot

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around and it's like somebody sat down
on the ground and reached out and grabbed

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the pine straw and pulled it into
a perfect circle, and it was like

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somebody was laying down in the middle
of it. We take pictures of it,

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look at it, and we're like, oh man, we got the

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tracks. We got this thing.
We walk a little further and we find

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another one. It's an older one
one that they had built before, but

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it's now the water level it's kind
of flooded in that area now, so

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they obviously moved and built another one. We were finding bones just that day.

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I think we found two deer skulls, find all kinds of there's hogs,

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there's more. There's tons of hogs
out there, more deer than I've

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ever seen on any property at nighttime, just herds of deer out there.

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Find all kinds of really cool stuff. So we get done look around.

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During the day, everybody leaves except
for me. Scott the forest and happy,

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and we're sitting around the campfire.
We're sitting there and we hear a

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yale. It's kind of like a
canine. I think it's coyote. Some

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guys think it's something else. I
think this one's a coyote. But then

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right after that, there's like a
h We got all this recording. We

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hear that we're talking about what we're
getting excited. They were like oh man,

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this is cool. Blah blah blah. Well, we're part where we're

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kind of camping. I've got we're
right in the middle, almost in the

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middle of this pipeline, so our
vehicles from the middle going to the'll

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just say to the right. There's
three vehicles and mine's the last one.

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It's about forty feet away from the
tree line. There's no trees overhead at

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all. Or We're standing around around
the fire and I'm hearing behind me in

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the woodline. I'm hearing like steps, and I'm kind of hearing grunts,

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and I'm like pointing them out,
like, guys, you hear that.

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And now we don't hear anything,
and all of a sudden, lock a

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rock hits my vehicle, which at
the time was super cool, but I

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just bought this vehicle like a week
before, so it's like, man,

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that's cool, but dang it,
you know, but that's recorded on audio.

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I've got my depro Alice recorded all
the the audio for everybody of this.

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So that happens, We're like,
oh my god, this is happening.

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Blah blah blah. We're standing there
and we hear another grunt and I

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still got my back turned and Hope
reaches down and grabbed his flashlight and turns

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it on, and right when he
turns it on, we say no,

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no, no, turn it off. Well, we go back through the

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audio and right when he turns that
flashlight on, there's grunt like they did

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not like it when he turned that
flashlight on it. So we've got their

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audio from that night, several pieces
of it. So that was cool,

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you know, it's uh, we're
verifying all this evidence. You know,

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Tappy's feeling good because it backs the
story up. You know. What I'm

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saying is he's lived with this thing
for thirty years, never told anybody about

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00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.920
it, and then he finally started
talking about it. So it's it's working

408
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:42.240
out great. We go like two
more times after that, find more evidence,

409
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:48.880
tons tons of hogs, dead hogs
all over the place. Found a

410
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:53.960
spot where they're it looks like they're
basically collecting bons. It looks like they're

411
00:28:55.119 --> 00:29:00.920
just dumping all their bones from their
kills over in one corner by the creek.

412
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:06.079
That's just another more evidence we find. I think it's about the third

413
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.359
time. We go out there.
First, me and Scott the forest get

414
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:14.079
out there, We walk around,
we're on one side of the pipeline in

415
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:18.200
the woods we're walking through. We
walk up to the creek and he finds

416
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.759
two hand prints like somebody's like a
sandbar right there, like something was sitting

417
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.920
down on the sand bar and just
grabbed a handful of sand and drug.

418
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.440
This was recent. I think it
was right before we came walking up.

419
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.559
So we find that. Then we
find I'm not real big in the structure,

420
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.319
Scott is. I'm not. I
don't. I don't keep up with

421
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:42.759
that stuff just because if it's very
obvious, I pay attention and I think

422
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:47.039
there is something to it. But
then the other times, you know,

423
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:51.160
trees and sticks fall in the woods
and they fall in all kinds of weird

424
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.880
configurations. If it's obvious, though, I pay attention. And we found

425
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.960
an obvious when it was like it
was all it was made out of pine

426
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.400
and it was an asterisk. It
was just all of them shoved in together,

427
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:04.200
just perfect. Okay, that's kind
of pretty looking. And then right

428
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:11.079
underneath it is a ten point deer
skull. Right underneath that what it means

429
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.440
couldn't tell you. That's just what
we found. So we're taking pictures all

430
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.079
that all right, could go walking
around. This is during the day.

431
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:23.640
We get done, we go and
we're in the middle in our little camp

432
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:27.599
in the middle of the pipeline.
Joe shows up, and Happy show up.

433
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.000
Happy shows up for about an hour. He's got to leave because he's

434
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:36.079
got to work the next day.
Me and Captain Joe decide we're gonna go

435
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.880
check the other side where we've found
all the beds before. We're walking around.

436
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.240
About forty five minutes. We find
the beds. Every time we go

437
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.400
out there. There's new animal balls, you know, that's pretty reliable.

438
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:53.000
Looking around, it's been forty five
minutes. We're not being quiet. We're

439
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:57.359
pretty much wrapping it up. We're
about to turn to go back towards camp,

440
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:04.440
which there's Scott is back at camp
and we're using the fire old firing

441
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.200
lanes as a trail, you know, to go in and out of this

442
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:12.640
area. Now, this, all
this, everything that happened, isn't necessarily

443
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:18.359
as important as our screw ups from
this day. We learned a lot from

444
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.440
this day, but it was also
pretty much life chain. I'm about sixty

445
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:27.960
ft in front of Joe. I'm
walking I see another deer skull. I've

446
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.359
got a GoPro on my back recording
behind. I stopped. I look at

447
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.279
the deer skull. I stick my
phone in my pocket like an idiot.

448
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.440
I looked down. I grabbed the
deer skull. I pick it up,

449
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.160
I look at it. I throw
it down. I take like five steps.

450
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.559
I still to this day don't know
why I did it, but I

451
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.759
just stopped, and I turned and
I looked at my right, and there

452
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:56.079
is a sasquat standing about fifty feet
away from me, looking right at me.

453
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:04.839
This is four thirty five o'clock afternoon, unobstructed, standing there, the

454
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.839
blackest black I've ever seen. We
call him a juvenile because because he was

455
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:13.680
skinny, and he wasn't tall at
all. He was he was kind of

456
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:19.480
had his hands like this, his
head was bent over like this and just

457
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.039
standing there, and he had a
frown on his face when he was looking

458
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.400
at me. But he was real
skinny, kind of scraggly looking. But

459
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:30.519
he had a white goatee. His
skin was it was a light gray on

460
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:36.359
his face. Because of the shot, I could see his eyes you're looking

461
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.359
at his face, I could see
from like the middle of his eyes down

462
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:44.519
and all that was just like a
light gray. And then on his left

463
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.160
hand, because he had his arm
up like this, I could see the

464
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.599
skin on this side of his hand, and that was a light gray.

465
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:54.279
Every other part of him was solid
black, just as black as black gift.

466
00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:00.559
And he had this believer or not
this big goofy looking kind of like

467
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.720
I got a cowlick, but his
was huge, like a rooster. Almost

468
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:07.720
looked right at him. I'm looking
right at him. Well, I don't

469
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.480
have my phone on my hand,
but I've got the GoPro running on the

470
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.759
back, so the only thing I
can think of is that's already running.

471
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.559
So I turn around real quick and
act like I don't see him, and

472
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.640
then just kind of move my back
back and forth like that, trying to

473
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:27.400
get him on camera. And then
I reach in. I grabbed my phone

474
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.720
out of my fucket turning on and
turned around and I start recording. I

475
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.880
don't see him, I yelled back
to Joe. He's sixty feet away.

476
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:38.359
I say, Joe, they're here. I just saw one. He was

477
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:42.799
like wow. He says something.
I can't really tell what he's saying,

478
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.079
but he says something about twelve o'clock. I know, after putting all this

479
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:51.440
together now because of the video.
I know what happened. He went if

480
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:57.039
if Joe's behind me and to my
right and I'm looking at the sasquatch.

481
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.759
When I turned my back towards a
sasquatch, it went the opposite. So

482
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:06.960
as my camera's coming around, he's
going this way. So that's why I

483
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.920
didn't get him. Because eventually Joe
sees him. It crosses in front of

484
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.400
him. There's a berm out there, about a four foot tall berm where

485
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.119
there was a piece of machinery out
there that dug it up. Just dump

486
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.159
the dirt there. Well, Joe
yells back. I see him, and

487
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.920
he sees from the waist up,
same thing I do, but side profile,

488
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.079
we come together. I walk over
to Joe and I don't know whether

489
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.559
I've got him on video or not, so I tell Joe, I said,

490
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:36.360
stop the growth of the GoPro.
I don't want anything to happen to

491
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.599
that footage. Just stop it.
So we get that taken care of.

492
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.679
I go one way to I don't
realize this thing has gone back. I

493
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:49.719
think it's gone. I think the
day's over with. We we just saw

494
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.159
one. You know, this is
amazing. We can't believe it happened,

495
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.400
blah blah blah. So I'm wanting
to see if I can find it trapped.

496
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.480
So I make a loop around and
then eventually we come together and we

497
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:04.079
start in the direction that it was
going. Well. We come to this

498
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.840
little creek and I look down and
there's three fingerprints in the ground right there

499
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.360
at the creek where it had stuck
it. It was running on all fours

500
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.639
and his hand went right in the
mud. This is all on the video.

501
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.199
I stick my fingers right in the
mud right next to it to compare

502
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.280
it. And as we're doing this, we start hearing crashing and breaking.

503
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:29.320
Apparently we're not moving fast enough for
this thing. It's wanting us to follow.

504
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.400
It had plenty of time to get
away it wanted to and we're like,

505
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.239
I can't believe this, dude,
this I think it wants us to

506
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.119
follow it. So we start following
behind it. I called Scott. I

507
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.440
say, Scott, man, we
just saw one. It's coming your way.

508
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:46.039
Get ready. So we're walking,
we're talking, we walk a little

509
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:50.239
further, we stopped. We're still
freaking out. We can't believe we saw

510
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.199
this. Blah blah blah, and
it's breaking and cracking things again. We're

511
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.679
like, jeez, this is still
here. So we keep all following and

512
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.719
we keep following this trail all the
way back till we come out to the

513
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:07.000
pipeline and he opens up and we're
like, we're freaking out. Joe's got

514
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.039
he's got the wild eyes, like
he's just been in a firefight. I

515
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.840
imagine I looked the same way.
We're talking about it. We get closer

516
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.639
and closer to Scott and he yells
something to us. We get up there

517
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.000
and he tells us. But after
we call him, he's standing there with

518
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:27.440
a pair of binocular looking down our
direction and he says, about seventy five

519
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.679
yards down he sees it walk out
on all fours doing the spider crawl,

520
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:36.320
walks out in the open, does
a loop, turns around and goes back

521
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:42.239
in the woods, and about ten
yards away, Me and Captain Joe come

522
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.079
walking out. This thing's ten yards
away from us. We had no idea.

523
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:47.840
So now all three of us are
freaking out. We can't believe this

524
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.159
just happened. I go over.
I call Happy. First thing. I

525
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.840
said, dude, you're not crazy. All three of us just saw one

526
00:36:54.880 --> 00:37:00.679
dude. Congratulations, We're all celebrating. I get done, take my thermal,

527
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.480
and I set up in the back
of Scott's truck facing that same direction.

528
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:09.039
We're standing there talking. Thirty thirty
five minutes go by and Scott yells,

529
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:15.280
there's another one. We look over
to where we came out from before,

530
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.800
and there's one running across the field
on all four Now, when I

531
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.440
just put a video up of this, when I say running, it's not

532
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:29.320
running like a dog or like a
gorilla or anything else. It's more like

533
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:34.719
a hop It's down on imagine squatted
down on all fours. He's got his

534
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.480
arms out in front of him,
and it's like he kicks his back legs.

535
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:43.800
He goes into a flat like Superman
position, lands and does it again.

536
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.880
But he's moving about as fast as
a dog. Now this one is.

537
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.719
It's bigger than the other one we
saw, but it's the same exact

538
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.000
color. It's black, all black. So it runs across the field,

539
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.000
gets to the other side, turns
away from us, and runs up the

540
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:05.280
tree line and right before there's a
big creek over there. Right before it

541
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.800
hits the creek, it takes a
left and goes into woods. Well.

542
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.960
As its doing this, I get
my phone out of my pocket again and

543
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.320
I'd start chasing. I got that
on video and I'm like running and there's

544
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.880
water everywhere and blah blah blah.
But we get done with all that,

545
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.960
and we can't believe how is this
possible? Number one, what we did

546
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:30.440
Our biggest mistake, Number one is
not recording at all times twenty four hours

547
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.480
a day. We thought that we
knew what these things were capable of.

548
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.119
We thought that we had been out
I had me and Scott had been out

549
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:44.079
there for three hours walking around during
the day. We were in the middle

550
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:50.559
of the pipeline hanging out for like
two hours, joking around, talking everything

551
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:54.360
else. Then that's when me and
Captain Joe going to wood. We never

552
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.840
in a million years thought we would
have a sighting because like you here over

553
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:01.280
and over again. Oh well,
if you're in the woods, they know

554
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:06.199
you're there. Well, I think
they knew they were we were there on

555
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.480
But what we didn't realize is they're
smarter than we think they are. I

556
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.320
think every bit of this was intentional. I think they wanted just like with

557
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.559
Happy, they wanted us out of
there. I don't think we snuck up

558
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.480
on it. I don't think it's
screwed up. I don't think anything.

559
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:28.519
This thing was intentionally walked up within
fifty feet of me and looked me dead

560
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:34.039
in my eye, and then Joe
sees it again. That was intentional because

561
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.719
as soon as I saw it and
then I lost sight of it, the

562
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.320
day should have been over with.
If we really snuck up on this thing.

563
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:47.199
There was no logical reason for any
of that to happen unless it wanted

564
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.719
us out of there. And that's
why Captain Joe you can see in the

565
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:55.840
video he's got this wild eyed look
in his eyes because he controlled our movements.

566
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.360
We did not realize how smart it
was. Knew that if it made

567
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:06.119
noise that we were going to follow. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to

568
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:14.199
Sea Warding right back after these messages, and we did exactly what it wanted

569
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:17.280
us to do. That I insult
to injury. We got lucky and we

570
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:22.119
got unlucky. I did not get
it on the GoPro, the thermal I

571
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.079
had set up. I didn't have
enough experience with it's a pulsar, and

572
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.159
when you go to race videos,
I've found out now you can only do

573
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:35.239
six at a time, maybe five, maybe eight you pick those videos or

574
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.079
race them and then pick more.
Well, before I went out there,

575
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.400
I tried to race in all of
them at the same time. It didn't

576
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:45.880
work, so the memory was full. So I got like all twenty minutes

577
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:50.840
before it stops twenty minutes, and
then at thirty five minutes is when it

578
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.079
runs right across where that thermal was
after the initial sighting, after I see

579
00:40:55.119 --> 00:41:00.440
it, then Captain Joe sees it. I'm recording the whole time with my

580
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:05.679
phone, and after we come together
and we're walking and we're about to get

581
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.760
to that creek where those fingerprints are, I go back through the video and

582
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:12.639
the only reason why I found him
in the video, and the only reason

583
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.559
why I could find him is because
he had a white goatee and he had

584
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:21.800
that big black cow lick thing.
So I was able to go back through

585
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.280
the video and find him. At
one time in the middle of the day

586
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:30.920
when we're looking for him, when
we know it's there, he's forty feet

587
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:35.519
away from us, crouched down and
just watching us. And we got it

588
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.280
all videos. There's one really good
screenshot and it's as clear as day.

589
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:44.760
It looks like a monkey face.
The ones we saw they're more primate looking.

590
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.519
I think they're more like a swamp
ape as opposed to the ones up

591
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.519
north that looked more like Neanderthal.
That's what it looked more like to me.

592
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.159
But it's just as clear as day. All I did was changed.

593
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.519
I used a iPhone. I changed
some of them, the shading, the

594
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:06.239
brilliance and all that, the basic
settings in the iPhone that you can change

595
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.320
to where you can see it.
You can see his face just as clear

596
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:12.280
as day. I don't go into
it a whole lot, but I think

597
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.639
there's another little one in it pretty
clear, but I didn't see a little

598
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:21.440
one, so I can't say that
it looks like a little one. But

599
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.480
I know what I saw that the
picture of the juvenile sasquatch that we have

600
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:31.800
that is on a sasquatch. There's
no way around it. And in fact

601
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:37.760
it's the sasquatch that we saw.
So we have one really good still from

602
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.119
that video. So we did get
lucky on that front. It was the

603
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:45.719
most amazing thing while doing this number
one. Even all that I had experienced

604
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.800
and had seen in the past,
there was still a little bit of doubt

605
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.239
in the back of my mind,
and he always got I've done a lot

606
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.840
of money into doing this, buy
an equipment and everything else. There was

607
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.599
always that fearwll, what if what
if all these guys are lying to me?

608
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:06.400
And what if I'm wrong? What
if I'm wasting my time? But

609
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.239
to see two of them on the
same day, with two other witnesses standing

610
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:15.239
next to that was it for me. I was already pretty pretty into it.

611
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:20.679
But then I've become even more devoted
number one, because now we know

612
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.760
we learned just throw out everything you
think. You know, they're extremely smart.

613
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.360
They have the ability to manipulate us
if they want to. It's what

614
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:37.239
we figured out that they have that
type of cognitive ability to think forward about

615
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.320
setting something up. You know,
we're both combat there and we had no

616
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.320
idea that this thing was just leading
us along on a string because we didn't

617
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:50.280
realize We didn't think they were that
smart. We never thought that it would

618
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.119
walk out during the middle of the
day. We were not ready. People

619
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:57.199
ask all the time, well you
saw blah blah blah one and ran across.

620
00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.719
We underestimated them. We screwed up. That's all there is to it.

621
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.760
But we've made a lot of changes
about a lot more equipment. There's

622
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.039
somebody recording at all times now when
we go out, and a lot of

623
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.639
people make fun of me because I
look like RoboCop. When I get out

624
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:15.719
of the field, I am covered
in cameras. That's pretty much the main

625
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.960
We've got another We've got a guy
that's contacted us here recently from around the

626
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.559
same area. Got some really cool
stuff going on. We're gonna try to

627
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:27.119
repeat this whole process from beginning to
end on this other property, and that'll

628
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.960
be coming up. I'm about to
interview this gentleman Tuesday. The only other

629
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:36.239
thing is we've got a really good
thermal I do from out here. I

630
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.440
actually just reposted that video today.
People go to the channel, but that

631
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.480
basically happened out here. I was
in my front yard. My wife came

632
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.960
outside to get something from the vehicle. The dogs went crazy. They went

633
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:52.239
up to the fence. I heard
something hit the ground. My wife walks

634
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.360
back in, and then as I'm
standing out with the thermal, something else

635
00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:00.320
flies right down in front of me
and hits the ground. Three different objects

636
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.239
were thrown at me. I've got
one of them on the thermal, and

637
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:07.039
after looking around for about I keep
seeing like spots heat signatures out there in

638
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:09.880
the woods. But I can't really, you know, make anything of it.

639
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:15.519
But then I catch through the trees
a perfect face. It's just looking

640
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.760
right at me. Gotta moving around
a little bit. He turns and looks

641
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.239
one direction, and then turns and
looks right back at me. I don't

642
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:27.159
know what to tell you. It's
a sasquatch. You know that one actually

643
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.719
looks more like a caveman. That's
where we're at. Man, we got

644
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.039
a lot of evidence. We got
We've got two years worth of evidence.

645
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.079
You know, really good vocals.
I've got vocals from my back deck of

646
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:42.920
one talking. I've got vocal of
it growling. I've been growled at three

647
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.599
times. But yeah, that's that's
pretty much everything in a nutshell. I

648
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:50.719
think it's interesting that you talk about
how smart these things are, because I've

649
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.039
had conversations with so many people about
that. Cliff Barrackman was on the show

650
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:57.679
a couple of months ago, and
Cliff made the comment that he doesn't believe

651
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:02.000
that these things are maybe as smart
as people think they are because of the

652
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:06.960
makeup of their bodies. Right,
they have these people describe huge heads with

653
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:13.280
no necks and that's really indicative if
you get into the musculature and the makeup

654
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.920
of the bodies. It doesn't necessarily
mean a bigger brain. But I think

655
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.360
it's interesting that you say that because
I interviewed Dan from Washington, who was

656
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.800
a hunter. I mentioned him to
you before we went on the air,

657
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:28.239
and Dan had a similar situation in
that he believes he was drawn in with

658
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.760
wood knocks, and he believed he
was being drawn into an ambush because it

659
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:37.119
culminated with him walking into this what
he believed to be an ambush and this

660
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:39.519
thing jumping out at him and scared
the shit out of him. Right,

661
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:44.039
and he's carrying a long gun.
He's carrying a pretty decent sized rifle because

662
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:49.679
he's hunting elk. But I'd never
heard that before until he shared his story

663
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.519
of these wood knocks and them using
noise, in your case, noise and

664
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:59.199
movement to draw people in to do
what they want you to do. So

665
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.960
I think that's a really interesting point
that I think people who go out in

666
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:07.199
the woods and look for these things
should probably be aware of, because if

667
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:12.679
there's multiple individuals out there and they're
doing something in a concerted effort to get

668
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.719
you to do something they want you
to do. You might want to take

669
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.840
notice of that sooner rather than later, because it could end badly. And

670
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.920
in dan situation, he believes that
maybe this thing saw the weapon and decided

671
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.599
that it wouldn't be worth his time
to do whatever that he was trying to

672
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:29.519
draw him in to do. But
he really had that ominous feeling that this

673
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.039
thing was trying to bring him in
and really do him harm. Before we

674
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.320
close out, don't want to go
back and just ask a couple of quick

675
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.960
questions about the stuff that was going
on around your house and your neighbor's property.

676
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:43.599
I was taking notes as you were
talking about this. Was there anything

677
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:47.679
that happened that you could put your
finger on that changed that might have precipitated

678
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.519
or caused some of the activity,
or was it just sort of a sporadic

679
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.559
thing that started around your house a
new neighbor's house. About the only thing

680
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.920
that I could really see doing something
like that was he actually cleared out an

681
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:07.559
area to put a turkey block,
and from what they had been here longer

682
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:13.039
than we had, that could have
been the case. But one thing I

683
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.880
left out is that area back there, that trail that you know, the

684
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:22.320
trail splits my property and their property. It's a pine thicket. The beds

685
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.719
that we found at the Happy Place, they were in pine thickets. They

686
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:31.000
used the pine straw. Well that
area, there wasn't a bed made like

687
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:36.079
the ones we found where it was
obvious, but there was a circle,

688
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:43.360
a perfect circle of where all the
trees and the brush and stuff were just

689
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.960
just gone. Pine straw was super
thick, and I started finding bones back

690
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:52.199
there. I think that's where they
were bedding. So I don't know if

691
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.400
they just claimed that spot and then
I really don't know, you know,

692
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:04.119
all that would be speculation. There's
also there's also a teenage girl involved with

693
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.079
one of the houses. I don't
know if that has anything to do with

694
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:13.800
it, but you know, anything
that I would say would be speculation.

695
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.840
I know that I know that humans
had a difficult time with some of the

696
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:23.000
individuals involved, so maybe the Sasquatch
also had a hard time with them too,

697
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:28.320
I could say, I mean,
you know, some people just had

698
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.079
that neck, you know, I
don't know. I didn't talk to them

699
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:37.119
personally. From this They actually moved
out, and that's when things kind of

700
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.400
kind of ramped up because this spot
behind their house was, you know,

701
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:43.960
that was never the new neighbors that
lived there now they never go back.

702
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:46.559
But I don't have access to it
like I, you know, like I

703
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:52.400
used to. But another thing I
left out after I got growled at.

704
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.920
I went back there a few days
later, and you go down the trail

705
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.920
and then the first left that goes
back there to that pine area is another

706
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.760
trail there. I got a picture
of it. There's three rocks, this

707
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:08.679
big, laid across that trail like
two days later. I don't know where

708
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:13.280
those came from, but to me
it kind of I was like, well,

709
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.639
maybe that's a Maybe that's a keepout. Maybe that's what's going on.

710
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:20.880
Is that's their betting area and they
just don't want us coming back there,

711
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.719
you know, which is which is
super odd to think about when you're talking

712
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:28.440
about these creatures. And then I
mean there are a thousand yards away,

713
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:32.760
there's another big neighborhood. There's I
mean, I'm semi rule. I do

714
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:36.960
have thousands of acres behind me,
but in front of me, I mean,

715
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.679
I'm six miles away from six gas
stations, five miles away from a

716
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:45.079
school in a library. You know, when you think about that's what I

717
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.119
thought when you think about sasquatch,
you think about way out in the middle

718
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.280
of nowhere. Well that's not the
case. The more you do this,

719
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.199
the more you find. In fact, I think the key two research and

720
00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:00.760
finding out more about this is finding
the right private property, because private properties

721
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:06.760
like mine or like the Happy Place, you can keep up with everything.

722
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:08.760
It's if you want to keep it
that way. It can be a sterile

723
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:14.519
area to where you know everything that
happened there, you know. And that's

724
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:19.000
what's been the benefit in my own
personal research. They run circles around me

725
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.519
because the way my fence is laid
out, and it's like a fishball effect.

726
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:28.280
But it's also made it to where
there seems like it's made it more

727
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.480
comfortable. They know I can't run
out there and get them, they know

728
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:36.519
I'm not gonna shoot at it.
It seems like over the years they've got

729
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.480
more and more comfortable with getting closer
and closer. And that's you know,

730
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.599
over the past two years, when
I've started getting the best evidence, the

731
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.159
vocal from one of the last really
good vocals I got, the thing was

732
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:51.920
on my back deck and I didn't
think they were coming to my guard and

733
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:57.519
it's all on audio, you can
hear it walking and then it makes h

734
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:00.880
I was actually on the reason why
I even found it, it's because I

735
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:02.880
was laying I was sick that morning. I got up and I went and

736
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:06.400
threw up, and I think it
was something I ate the day before,

737
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:08.280
and I'm like, crap, I
don't know if I'm gonna be able to

738
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:10.039
go to work. So I went
and laid down. I'm like, well,

739
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:14.760
maybe I just waited out see what
happens. And I'm laying there and

740
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:19.840
I hear talking through the wall,
like through the window backside of my house.

741
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:23.320
It's just deep. It's like a
deep rule. I didn't hear words

742
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:25.760
or anything, which is a deep
sound. Well, I go and check

743
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.480
my camera and I hear a few
things or whatever. It's nothing obvious.

744
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.719
Well then I put it in a
vocal or a program audio program and enhance

745
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:39.639
everything, and it's just as obvious
as can be. It's like like it's

746
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:45.039
stepping or walking on the deck,
and then it makes some kind of vocal

747
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:52.280
like a there's three when I slowed
the tempo down, which for any of

748
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.400
you out there that like working with
vocal of one of the things that I've

749
00:52:54.440 --> 00:53:00.599
noticed that really helps out is if
you slow the tempo down real slow and

750
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:06.920
stretch it out, you can really
tell the build of that vocal. And

751
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:12.400
it's got three syllables in for Christ's
sake, you know this is this is

752
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.760
it's talking. It's not just making
a grunt or a growl or a yell.

753
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:22.320
It's not human words that we know, but it's saying something. You

754
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.880
know. You know, Cliff's been
doing this a long time. I mean,

755
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:29.880
I won't, I won't go back
and forth other researchers and get involved

756
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.280
in all that stuff, but I
will say I disagree. Well, what

757
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:37.639
I've seen there is and what I've
experienced, they are smarter than they're being

758
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:43.760
given credit for. Now. I
do think the flesh and blood being,

759
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:46.800
you know, I don't think there's
anything. What I haven't what I have

760
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:52.800
seen enough of is to realize that
I understand why people think they're paranormal is

761
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.960
because of how fast they are,
their ability to move on all fours and

762
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:01.199
stay extremely low. Like the one
that walked up them on me that day,

763
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:06.159
he got within fifty feet. I
never heard it, never heard it

764
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.559
coming, but when it wanted me
to hear it, I heard it.

765
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:14.599
You know, make crashing break and
all that. Why this wasn't a smart

766
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.480
whatever you want to call it,
a creature? Why didn't it just run

767
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:22.679
off? Why didn't the survival instinct
just kick in and to just leave?

768
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:27.000
And then to have another one run
across right in front of us after that?

769
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:30.920
Why did do that? Don't make
any sense. We definitely didn't sneak

770
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:35.719
up on that one. You know, everybody has different experiences and different information

771
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.079
they're getting from individuals, So you
know, I guess one day we'll find

772
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:43.440
out. Hopefully with enough putting enough
information out there, we'll all figure out

773
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:45.239
who was right and do is wrong? You know. That's all I care

774
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:50.599
about, is getting the information out
there, putting the puzzle pieces together,

775
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.960
you know, and that's what I
enjoy doing. I'm super excited about this

776
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:58.480
property coming up, so hopefully we
can repeat the process. Well, we've

777
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:00.199
talked about it a couple of times. We've talked the Facebook group in your

778
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:02.880
YouTube page. Tell everybody where they
can find that, and I'll certainly link

779
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:08.320
to it in the show notes.
All right on YouTube is the Sasquatch Encounter

780
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:13.920
Brigade. Same thing on Facebook.
If you want to send us an email

781
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.880
for any reason I ask questions.
If you live in Georgia and you've got

782
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.159
a property with these things on it, I'd love to hear from you,

783
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:27.360
or if you're a hunter or any
outdoors person or anyone who's had an experience.

784
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:35.199
The email is the Encounter Brigade at
gmail dot com. The Encounter Brigade

785
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.400
at gmail dot com. You guys, check it out. I'll link to

786
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:39.920
it in the show notes. Johnny
Tubears, thanks so much for coming on

787
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:43.079
and sharing your experiences. Man,
I've had a blast talking to you.

788
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.559
Yeah, I appreciate it, man, I really do. They say you

789
00:55:47.599 --> 00:56:25.320
don't gotta go cast the world out
time? This joy, that chime,

790
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:32.880
everything coming right back, ride baby, my choice for me to stay right

791
00:56:34.119 --> 00:57:38.280
now, I'm coming right away.
As became brass us to us, to

792
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:49.920
us, uses us to use us