Hey everybody, this is Less Drive. Yes, yes, I know aka
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it out, become a member there and help support the show. I got
to sit down and talk to Ben from the UK, who has a YouTube
channel called the four oh one Files, and he had some really interesting information.
He had some really interesting encounters to share with us, and he's got
some pretty interesting perspectives on bigfoot in the UK and what he thinks these things
might be over there versus over here in North America. I think you're really
going to enjoy this interview with Ben. Towards the end of this, about
thirty minutes or so in I've actually incorporated a little bit of a clip.
It's about five or six minutes of what you can expect when you go over
to Ben's channel. It's him talking about bigfoot in the UK and his recent
experience on another podcast where he was kind of being pressured into a corner about
saying whether these things are flesh and blood or not over in the UK.
I think you're really going to enjoy it. Make sure you head over to
the four oh one files on YouTube, subscribe to the channel show Ben some
love. We're going to do some other collaborations here in the future, and
I'm really looking forward to that. I think he's a really cool guy,
and I think you're really going to enjoy his stuff. But enough of that,
I know you guys are ready to get into it. Ben's on the
line, he's ready to go. All that's left for you to do is
sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I don't want to welcome
our guests to the show. It has been from the four oh one files,
Welcome to the show man. Yeah, thank you for having me.
It's abstuen pleasure. I am so glad to have you. I appreciate your
patience. I know we've been trying to put this together for months. Now
that you're finally here, let's dig into this thing. Let's talk a little
bit about what got you interested in bigfoot sasquatch and all the crazy stuff that
you're out there chasing in those woods. Yeah. So for me, this
journey started from a very young age, and I grew up in a house
that was very active with polergeist activity privy to some of the adult conversations taking
place within that household, things that they could next slain and not really call
my interest. But around about the age of ten years old, this was
like nineteen ninety seven, I was a member of the cub Scouts at a
time a week being on a week camping trip. The camping trip itself was
perfect beautiful, so was camping drip Away for that week. And it was
on the way back that my life pretty much changed forever because we was on
a mini bus who was heading home. The camp was great. Like I
said, the cub Scout leaned or had just stood up in the middle of
the boats and said, we're gonna plo over it any minute and just do
a really quick random point of stuff for anyone that needs to jump off and
take a quick week. This would be a great time to do it,
because once we're done here hitting the road again. I remember it. I
was like the back of the bus, me and my friend at the time,
and we decided to jump off. We stood at the side of this
road. It was quite a busy road and where we were standing right in
front of us was small grass embankment. Being ten years old, I didn't
really want to stand shoulders shoulder with my taking a pee. I was a
bit of a shy kids, so I decided to go up this embankment.
While I was standing at the top of this embankment, I could now see
clearly through this wooded area. I remember seeing what I thought was like a
little outbuilding, little outhouse made of brakes, but it hadn't been used for
a while. That was clearly obvious that brooks missing, those ivy growing all
over this thing, and I remember thinking that looked really weird, like where
is the rest of this done? Why would't there just be a little tool
shed almost in the middle of the woods. So I started to look around
in this woods, obviously still standing there, just moving my head scanning through
the woods, and I saw something moved over to my left, I saw
this green creature. This thing was tall. It was about six feet tall,
over six feet, but it walked with a stem. Now I can't
tell you. It was just so long and downlee. That's the way its
gate was, That's the way it walked, or if this thing was actually
trying to keep a low profile. But it looked at me. I looked
at this thing, and it must have only been a few seconds, but
didn't feel right, even as a small thing year old child, even back
then, it was something I'd never seen before. But my initial reaction to
this experience was that this must be a crime. They're trying to trick me.
They're trying to make me believe how we got you, the new fall
for it kind of thing in my young I decided that I would do a
bit of reverse psychology. I thought, okay, you've gone through all this
time and try and trick me. I'll thetend I never saw it, but
jumped back on the bus and I waited for someone to say, how we
scared you, and you got you as you're scared. Nobody did nobody ever
spoke about this tall green creature walking through the woods. I waited, and
when nobody said anything. I then convinced myself that, Okay, maybe my
mum's in on this, but I'll wait till the bus starts and my mom
picks me up, and maybe she don't say something, and I'm pullost even
on the camping trip. So I'm not sure why that would have made sense,
but when she d never mentioned anything, it blew my mind a little
bit. The weird thing about this story is that for years and years after
this event, it completely was a race from my memory, like I never
thought about this, I never retold this story. It was just like it
never happened. And then, in my late twenties early thirties, just at
work like any other day, this memory just me like a bomb. It
was as vivid as any memory that ever had growing up, and I remembered
everything. I remember the way that this creature looked at me, and I
remember the way that it was through the woods, how sunny that day was.
I even remember how weird its feet looks as it brushed past these little
white flowers that were spreading up through the forest flows. It was a very
vivid memory that I had of this thing looking at me, and what through
the woods can you go into detail about the way this thing looked. Can
you talk about the details of are we talking like a sasquad sort of creature?
Are we talking about something else here? Just give us a little bit
more detailed as far as what you saw. Yes, I'll explain to you
as well how I transitioned from this to the quickest side of things. But
this is creature. When I first went, when his memory first came back
to me, obviously I didn't know what to tape in, so I just
started with what I saw. I started taking in green man or green creature,
and eventually I came across what looked like a reptilian i'd been. Now,
this thing didn't have scales like what people probably imagine. It was just
a really green, dark olive skin swiming with very small heads, black eyes,
and the head was way out of proportion to the rest of his body.
It's a very small head. One thing that always stuck with me from
that day is why did this creature that saw me? Why did it not
freak out as a young child running up with this embank when that box had
taken it by surprise, didn't expect the bustcle over where we did. Why
did it not freak out. It was so calm, it was so collected,
it almost knew. The impression I got is that it almost knew I
wouldn't bros screaming. Now, I don't know how it would know that,
but the minute we locked eyes and made eye contact, it just put its
head back down and carried on walking in the same direction. And yeah,
I've always found that very strange. But the reason I now get out into
these hot spots in the UK and investigate strange phenomenon like cryptids in the UK,
wild man UFOs and things like that, is because during about research and
trying to find out maybe what the hell is was I saw I found that
a lot of people here in the UK are seeing what would essentially be the
UK version of a bigfoot. To me, that just didn't make sense.
We live on an island. A lot of the landscape here, a lot
of geography here has been explored many times. We had the Vikings lived here,
that the Romans tumors, the Normans. There's not an area of land
really here that you can step on that hasn't been stepped on a thousand times.
To accept that idea that big foot was in here just it didn't sit
right with me. And then when I started speaking more to abductees and people
that have had extrapress Hill encounters, some of these creatures wasn't just great creatures.
There wasn't green like the stereotypical aliens that we see. Some of them
did hasper, some of them were tall, some of them did look like
Chewbacco, And there was a whole range of extra tressholds that have been seen
on his craft and people that were talking to, and that really is what
bridged the gap. And I started to think, how do we know what
kind of extra treasholds have We always assume that they're little great creatures with big
black rap around eyes, but they could come in a whole range of appearances.
And maybe these creatures that people have been seeing here in you here that
resemble a big buss, maybe it's not. Maybe it's an extra thructural of
some kind, or maybe it's interdimensional, or maybe there's a paranormal aspect to
it where it can just slip in and now our existence. I don't think
they're situated permanently. I don't think that they were an undiscovered species. I
do think that there is another elements of these things. It's definitely an interesting
take on it because I've talked to so many people that have said there's no
way these things could exist as a biological species, as a flesh and blood
creature. In the UK, I've also talked to people who have had very
flesh and blood like encounters with these things. Daniel Barnett comes to mind.
Daniel is a young researcher over in the UK who found some footprints that look
very much sasquatch like if you're comparing it to what we see over here in
North America and sent off the DNA and it came back Old World Monkey and
some other weird sort of DNA. So that's a very physical thing. So
I've always straddled that line of I believe that at least the North American sasquatch.
I'm still I'm about eighty five percent there on these creatures exist in a
physical form over here. And I straddle that fence because I do have a
lot of conversations with people who have a lot of strange, high strangeness,
sort of the woo of Bigfoot, if you will, type of encounters that
would tend to point you in the direction of maybe these things. There's more
to them. But I've also, as a researcher and somebody who's really been
into the subject, I've had to pick a lane, if you will,
to yeah my research, and I've always picked the flesh and blood lane of
I think this is an undiscovered biological creature, some sort of relic tomanoid or
relict tomin end possibly in the North American space. But you can't discount those
other strange experiences. I was just talking to Wayne, my co host over
on that Bigfoot podcast a couple of days ago. We were talking about a
scenario where I had a guy on from Tennessee. His name's Darryl, pretty
well known in the bigfoot community. He's had quite a few experiences. He
had some really strange things happened to him on an investigation where he's looking for
bigfoot on these people's property. They had sort of a habituation situation and it
was aggressive, so they were really trying to He and his research partner,
we're trying to help these people get rid of the bigfoot. If you will.
You see some orbs while they're out on an investigation, and one of
these orbs starts floating towards him and his research partner. There's no way around
it. He said, the orb turned into a possum. It sounds comical
to even say it out loud, but this is a He's pretty much a
flesh and blood researcher, and he's telling me. Look, I know you're
going to think I'm crazy dude when I tell you this, but this orb
turned into a possum right in front of me. That's not a flesh and
blood thing, right, So it's difficult for me when I'm pushing down the
lane of flesh and blood, to reconcile that. And I used to separate
that stuff as an investigator. I'm almost five hundred episodes into Sasquatch Odyssey,
and I've talked to a bunch of people who have had strange things going on,
sometimes simultaneously with bigfoot and experiences. Sometimes it was just before or just
after, and I used to separate those and say, there's no way that
could be involved in the Sasquatch part of this. I think you just have
strange lights and maybe these UFOs that are happening that you're seeing, and you
might have bigfoot experiences and encounters going on at the same time. But it's
harder and harder each day for me to separate the two. How do you
handle that when you go out and do your investigations. Are you just completely
open mind to the fact that this may not be a flesh and blood phenomenon,
it's more of a supernatural, possibly interdimensional, it's connected to extraterrestrials.
Is that sort of how you approach this as you go out and investigate it
is? And on my channel on the start, as what I talked about
a lot there is that I'm open to being wrong at any point if it
comes forward at any stage in time that these things are and I'd been just
as happy as everybody else. I'd be, and it would change the course
of how I operate and how I investigate. But there is no denying when
we look at the twoh phenomena, the cryptids nomena and the threshold phenomena,
there are so many crossovers between those two genres. For example, we have
minds feet in both before the U threscial encounters. There is weird smells always
reported with abductions, and the cryptis phenomena we have orbs of light that they
can transition from both phenomena the ability to disappear without a trace is common in
both phenomena these things. It bridges the gap of the cryptids and inter treashoals
once again and strengthens the idea that there is something more to these things.
Now they are outside influencies as well that can change my mind. Like you've
just mentioned there in the Pacific Northwest, in that's the US and kind of
the other parts kind of the I do believe that it could be flesh.
But in those in those areas, it's hard things to investigate and explore.
For that reason, that is why our remain up in minded, because the
only reason I think it's got to be something more in your new cage,
just because of the land masks. It means you were sat here right now
having this conversation about America like I would be saying, I do believe it
could be blessed blood. There are other things as well to their in mind.
Are the cryptids working with the extra treashows that are they some kind of
I don't want to say grown, because that means it's not even more.
Do they have an equal interest in these cryptids as we do. They might
not be related, or they might the cryptids might not be extra thresholds themselves,
but the extra thresholds might also know that the cryptids here on Earth and
having an interest just as we do. So that's why they're always seemed together,
either before or after. There's so many different roads and avenues that we
can go down when when we're discussing these two subjects, I just think to
outright deny that there is some kind of relation. Is it's not a smart
new who've got it the upper minded to everything. And like I just said,
if I'm proven wrong at any point, I would be more than happy
to pull my hands up and the beat and joining the celebration with everybody else.
But yeah, there are so many prop servers between the two on their
ipes that not entertain the idea. Yeah, I think I'm definitely right there
with you. Again, I approach it from the flesh and blood side of
things, and I stay open minded to people's experiences because there could be some
co mingling amongst the two. I just it's very difficult for me to reconcile.
And I'll ask you this, as an investigator, how do you deal
with talking to somebody, for example, who sees one of these things let's
say sasquatch, Bigfoot, or even a dog band for example, that are
doing very flesh and blood type of things hunting game. I've talked to plenty
of people who have seen what they think they're stalking deer. They clearly leave
behind a lot of signs that are very physical, like footprints, for example.
Arguably that's probably one of the best things that we have as far as
evidence for the existence of bigfoot, for example here in North America, is
the footprint evidence. And of course there's been photos and videos. Wayne and
I were just again where we're recording an episode of our other show, that
Bigfoot podcast today, when we were talking about the IMAX footage from I think
two thousand and one of what looks like a purported sasquatch doing a very physical
thing, and it looks like it even has a baby on its back.
That's a very physical thing. Patty, for example, Patty is a very
physical being. If you're into the Patterson Gimblin film and you think that's a
real sasquatch, I tend to error on the side of it being a real
sasquatch in that video. It's again a very physical thing. I guess That's
the thing that's hard for me to wrap my brain around is if these things
are interdimensional or they're even connected in some way to extraterrestrials. They're seen doing
very physical, almost mundane things in a lot of cases. As an investigator
with an open mind, and you're going out in the field and you're talking
to people and you're investigating certain sites, how are you reconciling that and maintaining
your open mind when it is finding very physical things left behind, tree structures
and other things that would lead you down the road of it being a physical
creature or more of a terrestrial creature versus extraterrestrial. How do you deal with
that as an investigator? And if we consider that these cryptids could be echitrescural,
and we're trying to, like you just said, get our minds around
the fact that they're doing very human, animalistic things that wouldn't be too much
to had to imagine interterrestrials themselves do human things. There's a lot of abduction
stories where we hear they're interested in human anatomy. That is a very human
trick. So even if these cryptis were extrescial, the fact that they least
footprints behind the fact that they carry their young and do all things that we
would associate with animalistic behavior. It doesn't change the back that they could be
intratrectual because, like I've just said, extra stressural to do human things.
They're interested in our nuclear silence, they are interested in human anatomy and future
of the planet. These are all very unite for it. Yeah, again
what I'm saying, but it's very possible that they could be both either either
completely but enzyme. They could be cryptid or animallystic in their behaviors in the
way that they do things, but they could also have an extra threshold on
them there as well. So let's talk about some of your investigations. I
know you've done tons of stuff. You've got tons of videos over on the
four h one files. Let's talk about some of the investigations that you've been
out on. Let's talk about maybe a couple of the ones that have stuck
out to you, some of the places maybe that have stuck out, some
of the experiences that you've had, or maybe some of the stories that have
stuck out that people have shared with you that have spurred some of your investigations.
Let's get into a little bit of that and talk about that for the
audience. Yeah. So there's a few really good potspots here in the UK.
One a of the places is place called Howard Forest. This is notorious
or cryptic sayings, and I've spent a few days investigating there, but lots
of strange things. You've got to remember as well. While I'm out there
investigating, I'm not purposely looking for any specific It's not like I'm going out
there with the equipment look like USOS and spread rules or specifically cryptid. I'm
out there in these hotspots where reports are coming in in the hope of experiencing
something anything. So I never really go out there knowing what what to expect.
But there has been some really good experiences from Howard Forest. For example,
I walk up one morning. You've got to remember as well, this
is quite a remote area even you gare. There's not many cities or town
They're honest this location and I wake up and there's a weird structure made up
of sticks logs situated outside my tent early about ten meters await. Now,
that definitely was not there when I pitched the ten And if anybody was dragging
sticks and twigsted the forest during the night. I would have fitd that.
And even on the footage when when you see me going in there and you're
seeing saying the ten, the ten, and pound past this certain area and
there is nothing there. It's not one or two sticks, this is a
it's huge frame that's been created stacked against the tree. Now, I have
no idea again what that is. Is it more or streasural early and I
have no idea. I can just report on what i'd find, but obviously
that is very strong in the cryptic Doom and his stick structures, tree structures,
things like that. There was another scenario where I was pigeon the tenter
and I heard this really weird whirling sound. It was almost as if you
could just grab the cable and started to with the cable around you know how
it could through the wind. And you can clear up here this very clearly
coming through the woods. It wasn't wind. The forest was completely silent at
this point. There was no birds whistling, there was no leaves rustling.
But this whirling sound couldn't through the forest. Was very creepy and in fact,
all the heads on the back of my arm stood at this point,
so I climb back out of the tent as I'm turning my sleeping back in
and I just sit there at two minutes listening to the forest. And I
have no idea which direction this was going from or where it was being generated
from, but it was very creepy, had me on edge. So I
stand then in the middle of the forest. This noise eventually dies down and
I heard a very distinct whistle. It was a whistle that this went.
And I can't tell you how scared I was at this point, but it
was off the chart. I was absolutely terrified. Now my first thought was,
oh my god, there's a dog off Someone's walked through the forest of
that dog off the lead, and they realized that. I heard there trying
to whistle this dog back. But I never heard nothing. I didn't hear
a human being walking through the forest. I didn't hear anybody calling a dog.
I didn't even hear the dog if it was. It was just me
on my own in the middle of nowhere I heard this. I've never heard
an animal, never heard a bird or any of the animal make a noise
like that. But yeah, all through that night. In fact, obfuly
that week while I was investigating them, very strange things happened. I'm not
a mutually a believer in doing tree notes or anything like that, but on
this particular an investigation, I just thought, for a lot, I'll do
a huge tree knocks. Now. I had responses straight away to doing this,
which lead me away because I wasn't expecting anything. And stay tuned for
more sasquatch Ota sy We'll be right back after these messages. So scenarios like
that, when I go out and I investigate and I get results like that,
it makes me think, is there really something marveling on here? Is
there something that people answering because not everybody can be lying. I think we
all agree on that, But what is doing this is not natural to hear
those kinds of things. Are experience that kind of stuff. So yeah,
it leaves me with a lot of locked questions. I'm right there with you.
I've had experiences that I can't explain in the woods here on our land
and radium with Todd standing last year in October wood knocks whistles, whoops,
what sam did like Samurai cheddar that I can't explain. And I've yet to
see anything thing physical to go along with that, outside of seeing tracks standing
in areas, particularly in Radium, where there was something heavy clearly there there
was what looked like seventeen eighteen inch foot prints in the mosque there in the
ground. I've cast prints here on my property in North Carolina and heard vocalizations
that are similar to some of the stuff that I heard in Radium. So
I don't know. It's what keeps me coming back. Man, in your
investigations, has there been an experience, whether it was earlier on, you
mentioned something about living in a haunted house. I can relate to that.
I lived in a couple of hundred houses as a kid. That's got my
interest peaked at an early age in some of the unknown things. And certainly
i'd love for you to talk about some of that, if you're okay with
doing that. But even from those experiences earlier on, seeing what you saw
when you were ten, and now going out and doing these investigations, is
there anything that has stuck out to you as far as an experience or something
that you've seen or evidence that you've found that point in a direction of Okay,
there is definitely something going on here that makes me want to dig a
little bit deeper into the subject. Yeah, so I've got a few stories
if here don't mind me telling them, are sharing up with your listeners.
My first UFO sens so where my main stomping ground of where I investigated is
an area. It's five hundred and fifty four square mile area called the North
Yauction Moos and smack bang in the middle of the North yuch Mos is a
military base shrouded in mystery itself, like it's a top sequet military base.
I think it's actually American run. It's called Aria Filing Dales. Now.
The motto for Arid Filing Dales is videolamates, which means we are watching mysteriously
creely enough. But yeah, all around this base in the huge area,
one of the biggest hot spots in the UK have a very stranger reports and
one of the reports is obviously i UFOs sightings. Me and my brother had
gone up to a place called Blamboroughhead. It's like literally on the coastline of
the UK. You're looking right out across and O Sea. We've gone up
there hoping to see some strange lights people have been report. We never expected
to see anything because it was our first time there, and that would just
be unbelievable. We sat out for about two or three hours. We had
the chairs pulled up on the coast class, just looking out to see them,
and it was starting to get really cold, as it does on the
coastline. So we decided, look, we've not seen anything. Let's just
get back to the van. Let's get back out there. And on the
footpath, going back to when the vand was part, we saw these four
and the lights dressing across the sky. Now they were evenly spread apart,
very bright amber, and they blinked out and then reappeared further along in the
sky, blinked out, and then again reappeared, always going in the same
line of the same amount of travel. So I saw, originally this could
be a playing that's just fall five for a second, it could be a
plane. And then it did something really weird because it blinked out and where
it should have appeared it had now gone back on itself. It blinked then
and it was like zig zagging across the sky. The impression I got at
the time was that weather's flying this plane is extremely confused. They don't know
what they're doing. Their planes out of control or they're just lost. And
as we stood there, none of us said a word. There's no conversation
taking place between me and my brother at this point. We're just looking at
this weird display happening in front of us, with these lights in the sky,
and with that, two fighter planes switched above our heads, and this
thing that we've been watching that just shot out to sea, and it must
have been about twenty miles out to see. Within the blank of an eye,
this fighter plane, these two fight brains rolled across our heads in the
same direction, chasing these lights out to see now, when they got out
to when the horizon would have been out of sea, these lights disappeared,
and obviously the engines of the fight brain died out. We both stood there,
absolutely and completely amazed. None of us said the words, but for
a good minute or team we were just like, what the hell was that?
And then as we stood there, literally the only cloud in the sky
at this time above us, these four lights emerged eerily from this cloud.
It was the most bizarre, surreal thing I've ever seen in my life.
And they went across the sky a little bit and then it disappeared, and
we never saw them again, but we never saw those lights come back.
When they appeared them about our heads. We didn't see them make the return
journey back to that crowd. It just appeared. And we spoke about this
all the way home in the van, adrenaline running through our bodies, and
I said, you know what I think happened. I think that whatever those
lights were, they knew that those fighting planes were inbound, and they was
trying to figure out what their next move would be. And that's why it
was going backward to the ballwards because of the very last minute they darted out
to sea and then lo and behold, these two fighting plans come in the
same direction, chasing them out. So yeah, very weird. Well that
was my first UTO experience and my only UO experience of the honest but one
has completely explode my mind. And if you want, I can dive into
some of the paranormal as well. As I mentioned at the start of our
conversation, I grew up in a very hunted house full of paranormal activity.
One of the stories that really sticks out. First of all, let me
just say that this house took on the progression that you see in the movies.
But first died with people seeing a shadow in the corner of the rye.
In that parition, things would move, things would go missing and then
turn up in an obvious place they had already been searched, like many times
before. It was very much the way the movies should trade in that sense.
And eventually this thing, this spirit ghost, whatever it was, did
start trying to communicate. And one of the creepiest stories, some of the
creepy stories, came from my dad. My dad was a long distance lorry
driver, so he was driving articulated lorries up and down the country to Scotland
and back. He was awake quite a lot of my childhood with that job
in that role. So by the time my dad would finish, everybody in
the house would be asleep. He'd usually turn up three in the morning for
in the morning because his brain had been so active while driving, he couldn't
just put it to bed and switch off. He always had to hell on
and make himself a comptee. One moore, did I get up and I'm
on the way out of the door to school, and I look in the
kitchen and my dad sat there. And that's not like my dad normally,
he's in bed by this been out at work on it. He's very share,
couldn't it's white. And he proceeds to tell me this story that he
came home last night and he'd gone down into the fridge to get the milk
out, and as he did so, a female's voice over he's left there
said, now, my dad's name is Gary. So whoever this thing was
or whatever it was, knew my dad's name. And he said it was
so realistic, it was so believable that I actually turned around and almost said
yeah. I almost answered it, thinking that he was your mum, and
it wasn't, he said, all the hairs on the back of the next
to U. I was bent down on the bridge, and I just I
could not move, he said, because I know I heard it and all,
like I said, all heads and neckad stuff and everything. But the
weirdest thing he said for me was knowing that something that shouldn't be here he
knows my name, and I can't get my head. I can't wrap my
head on that. That was one experience that my dad's had. If we
fast forward a few more years, my moment Dad at the point of going
through a break book puts him at the boat. So my dad's actually now
living in the house on his own, and he'd just had new carpets laid
throughout the house. And I don't know if you ever pulled a door against
the newly laid carpet, but it's a very distinct sound. You can hear
it brush against the carpet. So we'd gone around the house, he'd locked
all the windows, checked full of doors, and he got upstairs to sleep,
and he said that must have only been laid there for ten to fifteen
minutes, drifting off when the bedroom door pushed against the carpet, and he
said, my eyes instantly bollied open. And I was laid there in the
dark, or in the house on my own, thinking someone's in the house,
someone's broken him. And then now in the bedroom still have the doorway,
And obviously, as he's telling me this, I'm getting freaked out.
And I said, well, what did you do next that? What did
you do? He said, I didn't do anything. I laid there all
night looking at the bedroom window away the sun's clock, just praying to God
that there was nobody in the house. And sure enough, when he woke
up and the sun did come back through the window. He turned over and
the bedroom doll was pushed wide open against the new mid cap. There was
nobody there, so somebody had walked in the bedroom to the foot of his
bed. And yeah, there was nice, but these stories are coming.
It wasn't just me, wasn't my dad or my mom. It was friends
of the family. There was also having experiences in the house. We went
away on a family holiday once and we left because we had a dog at
that time. The dog was called bouncer building Labrador. We had my auntie
come over and let the dog out. The dog while we was away on
this holiday. We must have only been away a week, and she rings
that MoMA hysterically crying, you're gonna have to come back. You're gonna I'm
sorry, I can't do that. You're gonna have to come back. I
can't look after the dog anymore. So my mum eventually calmed down and off
to the bottom of what happened, and she said that she was all the
way upstairs and she couldn't move past a certain point on the stairs to what
do you mean you couldn't ink past? What do you mean you could move?
He said, it was like somebody was pushing me back, and I
kept trying to lift my leg to go up a step further, and I
couldn't do it. The dog was going crazy. Scrapped in at the door
back in. Yeah, after about two or three extemps, she realized and
I was like, this is really not right. She ran out of the
house and never went back. It was just a really creepy place to live.
And even now I'm thirty seven years old, even though I went every
at least once a month and have a nightmare, I'm back in the house
and the nightmares aren't always prepeed. There's not stuff chasing me or jumping out
of me. Sometimes it's just me in that house in the dark and I'm
stood there, but I wait with sweating and terrified. And Yeah, it
was creepy time of my life. It definitely sounds like it, man.
I can definitely relate to being in a creepy house at an early age,
and that stuff sticks with you. Man. It's hard to explain if nobody's
ever experienced that kind of terror that comes with the unknown voice and scratching and
walking and opening doors and things disappearing. It's just a really eerie experience that
frankly, not a lot of people get to go through and it clearly has
spurned you on to investigate look into this more. You started your show the
four oh one Files. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about what people
can expect when they go over there. What kind of videos do you do,
how do you approach your investigations, and when they check it out,
what can they expect to find on the four oh one files. Yeah,
so online videos I get out, I don mini style documentary videos that really
one. I hit quite polished videos of me getting out into these hot spots,
and I go out there on my own right solo wildcamp in these hot
spots, and I talk about things that are quite thought provoking. Miami is
too spy curiosity with people that maybe are on the fence. I want people
to leave my channel and think, actually, what he said I don't agree
with, but he's got a point. That's the kind of impact that one,
because there ranks so many different possibilities out there that we can't just gidging
whole ourselves. And the aim of my channel, the content where I come
trip most of my energy and time is the UFBO encrypted phenomena. Sometimes it's
solely just about cryptids. Sometimes it's sly, just like UFOs. Sometimes I
property over, but it's always creepy. It's always me out there and I
don't jump again, I don't. I don't fake anything if nothing happens.
But one thing you will get from my videos is all the rookie content,
stuff that you'll go away with and sit back and be able to think goo.
Hi guys, thank you for joining me back here again on the four
to one files. I'm gonna do another fill of video for you. What
I'm going to chat to you today about is an experience that I had a
few years back, so a long story show. I was asked to be
a guest on the podcast. I was asked to attend on the podcast.
There was going to be a panel of maybe three or four different people,
and everything felt good, like the vibe was nice. They seemed interested in
what I do and what I talk about. So I obviously agreed, and
no sooner I agreed, No sooner. What we went live on this podcast,
the atmosphere was a bit different. It wasn't what I was expecting,
and it was quite clearly obvious from the open that these people were trying to
back me into a corner and trying to get me to say something that would
make me look stupid. Now why they would do this, I'm not sure.
But they kept going on about the big Foot, the UK big Foot,
Why do I think there is a big Foot wondering undiscovered in the UK.
And I kept happing to correct them all the time. That's not why
I believe. I've never said for a minute that I believe there was a
seven to eight feet nine ten feet tall creature and discovered walking around the English
countryside. I've never said that. Even back in the early days of the
four to one files, when I really didn't know what direction I was heading
in, I still always speculated they could have an extraterrestrial element, and that
is something I've always stood by. And if it's not just terressural, would
be supernatural, interdimensional, paranormal, whatever it is. I just don't believe
that they have flesh and blood creatures undiscovered. I just don't. There has
to be something else, some underlining layer to these creatures that we don't fully
in the stand right now, And for me, that was the extraterrestrial crossover.
So yeah, I kept correcting them. I kept saying Look, I
don't believe that there is a big Foot in the stereotypical sense, a ten
foot tall creature covered in hair walking around at some discovering. I don't believe
that, but they kept pushing it and pushing it. I'm thinking, have
they got the right guy on the podcast? Do they know what I talk
about? What I do? And I think, like maybe twenty thirty minutes
into the podcast, it just twigged that these guys wanted a title. They
wanted something to puke from that, something to latch onto and maybe even ridiculo
me over. But I wasn't going to give them that. Like I was
just sticking to my guns, are saying, I don't think that. That's
not why I believe. This is what I believe. But they couldn't get
on board with that. They couldn't get their head around the fact that I
thought Bigfoot could be an extraterrestial. For them, it was just too weird,
too sci fi and futuristic and a bit que key. But then when
I said to these guys, look, I think a thousand years from now,
do you think it's possible or likely that we might have extra tress rules
living here on us alongside us. Yeah, I think that's possible. Yeah,
okay, I think five hundred years. Do you think it's possible?
Possibly? Maybe not. So what is it that's giving you this illusion when
it becomes acceptable as to when it doesn't. Because you've said that five hundred
years is maybe, but one thousand years is probably definitely. Why is it
that now we can't have extra terrestrials living amongst us? Because when they're okay,
now where five hundred years or a thousand years, we don't have no
say in it. They're not here because we've said, come on, it's
fine, now you can arrive. They're here because they want to be here.
And so I try to explain to these guys that your only reason for
disbelieving the extraterrestrials could be living right here, right now amongst the humans is
based on a human factor's and that is a stereotypical thing that we humans do
a lot. We are very entailed. For example, when we first started
looking to the heavens to space, we believe that everything evolved around us.
Again, it's a very entitled viewpoint. We think that we are God's will
only chosen children. Again, a very entitled viewpoint, And when I put
it to them in this way, like why tell me why you think they
can't be here now? But in five hundred years possibly, and in a
thousand years most definitely. Your reasoning is based on what we're doing. But
for their actually treasures that come in here, they don't care. They couldn't
care less what we're doing. If they want to be here, they will
be here. It doesn't matter what you're think, what you believe, what
stage have advancements we're at, if they're coming, and that's that. So,
Yeah, they didn't seem to like this approach for me. They didn't
seem to like the fact that I saw this far outside the box. But
I guess I'm just trying to send this message to you, guys, is
that you're going to meet people who have not only different opinions, but you're
going to meet people that try and get you to say things that you don't
want to say. Now, if you do believe that Bigfoot is a flashionable
creature, stick to that. You have your beliefs, your own personal experiences
throughout life have led you to that opinion, and they're yours and yours only.
Stick to why you believe what you're saying is true. Don't ever let
anybody bring you down trying back you into a corner. If the season it
maybe you don't believe. And sometimes you're going to get people that laugh at
you poke funny, and I've had that a lot, but I always have
the last laugh because as times change and new things come forward, whether you're
on the news or in newspapers about the subjects, it's always swaying more in
favor of what I've always said. These things are real, they do exist.
You go back ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, people would shut
you down straight away about talking of anything like extra threasturild has been related to
cryptids. Now it's a possibility, and in fifty years again, like the
people this podcast said, more people will believe it's even more likely, and
further on from that, people will undoubtedly know that they exist. So stick
to your guns. Will ever be pushed into a corner. And what you
believe is yours and yours only. You don't need to try and convince anybody.
You don't need to build up a following of people that believe the same
way you do. You'll believe unique to you and that's what makes us special.
That is definitely the truth, folks. I will link to it in
the show notes. To make sure you check out the four oh one files.
Go over there, subscribe, hit that notification button. Show been some
love and support the channel, man. I really appreciate you coming on and
sharing your experiences and had a blast talking to you. Yeah you too as
well, because I'm a longtime fan as well. I know I've not mentioned
it, but I'm a huge fan of the s That's Watch to See podcast.
How I listened to it for many years and you having me. I
definitely appreciate him. They say, you don't gotta go home, but you
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