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Weird things happened in the Beady Weird
Weird Weird. Wow. Welcome to bled

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Ssetto. This is gonna be an
amazingly deep dive, epic esoteric anime episode.

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We're gonna talk about Neon Genesis,
Evan Gleen, Evan Gillian. We're

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gonna get into that later, but
we're gonna talk about our friend Raven.

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Hello, Ravens here, I'm here. Thank you for having me. Evan

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Glean, Evan a tongue. Yeah, we uh, we brought our best

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little buddy, Raven here. Wait, we've talked about him, so he's

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like our house cat. He's like
we've talked about him so many times on

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the show. This is my birthday. Twin we were more wet, literally

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literally gotta let the We're about to
let the world. We can't say,

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are are so security? No,
no, no, no, I'm just

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saying the thing we always say to
everybody. They gotta know now, Okay,

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okay, yeah, I feel like
I'm talking too loud. Now,

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No, you're not. We got
the same birthday, y'all. It's true.

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Is like the same day, same
year, a couple hours apart,

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same year, same hospital. So
we were older already really like you never

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guess that your social Security numbers one
off, one apart, it's wow,

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digit apart. Yeah, yeah,
y'all figure that one out yourselves. So

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they're more in a couple of hours
apart the same hospital. Like, okay,

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it makes sense. So how old
were you and I when we met?

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We were in mister, I think
I was like a freshman in high

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school. But yeah, so I
was. I don't know, I can't

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like that. Wait question. Did
we meet in computer class or yeah?

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Oh right, yeah, it was
like you were listening to kill Switch engage

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or something like, well you like
kill switching, yeah, which is literally

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how me and Ryan became people together. It was probably I don't know if

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it was killed Switch, was it
was metal music, but I'm like it

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was probably because that was like that
was the hot band that we were like

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what fourteen fifteen something like that.
Yeah, So we had computer class together,

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and then I think the next year
or maybe the next like semester or

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something when the class has change,
we had a math class together. It

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was pre algebra with a mister Constant, Mr Constantine. Yeah, yet might

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have to bleep that, but maybe
mister mister boy man mister mister boy.

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He was great. He was great. Well, he didn't like me,

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really, I loved him. Bro
well, like Nick helped me cheat on

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a lot of tests redacted, but
I did definitely help him, which is

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which is hilarious because math was my
worst. Yeah. I don't know why.

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I was like, this guy's gonna
help me. My faith in you.

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So it was that class. Oh
yeah, always crim say we was

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farming nukes on Modern Warfare two.
Yeah, we did a lot of delinquent

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stuff. But it wasn't until that
class that we had the realization we have

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the same birthday. Like one of
us was like, oh, my birthday,

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I don't even remember. My birthday
is the summer? Yeah I do,

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yes, literally it was it was
your birthday fifteenth, Like, oh

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what? And then we found out
it was the exact same day. And

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then we found out it was the
same hospital. And it's like the wildest

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synchronicity. So we we were the
wonder twins as well. We always have

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like joint birthday parties and like and
everything, so yeah, this is my

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this is my wonder twin. But
Ryan, I think you've raven longer,

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yes, a little bit. Yeah, So when I was in ninth grade

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and tenth grade. I was in
the the RTC. You know, right,

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I forgot about he was in college
juty school. Yeah, I was

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in college duties Campo camp junior college
dude. But to ninth grade. I

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actually your sister is my age.
She's in this. Yeah, you guys

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had like the same like we moved
here. The shout out Victor, her

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husband Victory, and Chastie was in
many of my classes. Yeah, yeah,

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like several of them, and we
just had all I met you first,

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she brought you. You came to
my place to like help with them.

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Not quite not quiet. I can
tell you get that. I'm gonna

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tell you. He always he always
forgets how he met because he was younger,

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he was in middle school. He
just blanked it out of his brain.

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But so Chastie was in my classes. We got to be really good

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friends, and you know that whole
story. But they don't know where I

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was at lunch. Chastity freshman year
and I was still new to Grace Creek.

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I'd only been there since the seventh
grade and didn't really have any good

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friends other than like Nick on the
bus and some like Alex Alex Hodge was

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just a few people, and uh, ninth grade, you know, I

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started meeting all these new people and
Chas was just super sweet, super super

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nice. She's she's just like she's
a lot like my sister and her very

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like calm mannerisms, you know,
like very gentle approach, and she's just

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super nice to me. And I
was this awkward kid, and she was

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like, what's your name? And
I said Melvin. She tells me mel

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since the ninth grade. Why did
you say Melville? I don't know.

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I was just a shy kid,
and I thought it'd be funny. I

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was trolling her and and I literally
was like, no, no, no,

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I'm just playing and she's like,
no, no, you're Melvin.

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And to this day, almost thirty
years old, you know, every time

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we crossed paths, she still calls
me mel literally, yeah, every single

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time. And for a while Raven
did so. Anyway, so the next

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year, because how you introduced yourself
to me? Yes, oh you did,

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I did? Yeah, I did. It stuck with okay, it's

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stuck with Chastity in our little friend
group in the ninth grade. And actually

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that year, so I was in
RTC. I went to the middle school

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to do like a mentorship program from
the eighth grade, y'all were taking,

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like, are you actually are you
a grade below? Nick? Yeah?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Oh that's why I always thought you were

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younger. So I went to you
were in the seventh grade. Held back

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makes a lot of sense. But
a little goblin in elementary school, dude,

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it makes a lot of sense.
Well, no, seriously, I

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always thought you were younger because you
were a grade below. I didn't know

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you were born the same year.
That's why I was looking. No,

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no, no, no, it's
like, yeah, I got held back

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in the first grade for being a
little goblin bullish, but I've got I'm

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the family dog. I'm not gonna
say who they are, and you know

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who they are. I have friends
that are twins, and one of them

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got held back in the first grade, so the mom held the other one

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back. Oh it's hilarious, y'all
know. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,

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so ninth grade, I went to
middle school and I was coincidentally assigned to

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your table to like moderate y'all's little
EOG studies. I thought you were helping

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me with math. I feel like
it was something like that was his mentor.

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Yeah, dude, are you kidding
me? Yeah, No, I'm

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not kidding. Yeah. I remember
coming. I was looking like I was

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cool, you know, was pretty
cool. It was really like an RTC

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field trip thing, like for that
class period. We got in school bus.

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What did you say? You have
my headphones on so I can't hear

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You're good? Yeah, So we
went to the middle school and I literally

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hung out with Raven for like an
hour and a half, and I just

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thought, like, this kid is
funny as fuck, honestly, even back

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then. And then it was the
next year, in the tenth grade,

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Chastity and I were in English together
and I was coming over to your house

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for a while to do projects,
and that's yeah. And then it just

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spiraled and we've all just had this
crazy friend group ever since. Homies.

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For a minute, I cannot believe
that you were his tour dude. We

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didn't even talk about how. Also, the three of us rode the same

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bus by the time we were all
in high school, right, yeah,

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remember, Yeah, I always forget
about that. It's because like most of

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the time it was like Nathan and
I put it like torturing this one kid

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because we were like bullies and said, yo, he was at the table,

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and I honestly felt bad for that
kid. Now, no, but

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I mean this kid was like,
I'm a vampire, so he kind of

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deserved it. But poor kid man, he was he's doing good. I

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mean, I don't want to he
was saying he was a wizard. He

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was saying, you know, I
said I was a vampire. That's what

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it was. He definitely wasn't all
there. I felt hard for the kid.

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Yeah, I realized, now I'm
gonna get canceled for this. I'm

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having a hard time moving past the
Melvin thing. Oh dude, this is

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no bs. Like to this day, every time I see Chastity around Ryan,

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it's may see each other and she
says, hey, melt every single

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time. I don't know if I've
ever like seen her call you Ryan,

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welcome to TYL said so a few
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that. Yeah, So that's that's
it. It was like it was it

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was definitely fate. I mean it
was like, you know, coincidentally being

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assigned to your group out of the
thirty other groups of kids that day and

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then riding the bus and y'all having
the birthday. I mean, it was

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obviously meant to be that we would
all be. I don't know, it

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doesn't like technically count that I know
Nick longer because we were probably like right

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next to each other and those little
baby and better true, that's like Cagaron

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brolly. I mean honestly that that
we were probably in the same room neighbors,

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probably honestly and were roommates, like
y'all might have switched, Alex,

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y'all might have been switched. I
say, we say that all the time.

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You say that all like it was
just like joke around, be like,

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hey, how are you doing?
Raven? Yeah, yeah, Warren

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shout out Warren show. Every single
every year without fail, on our birthday,

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he goes on Raven's Facebook and says
happy birthday, Nick, and he

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goes on my Facebook. It says
happy birthday Raven. That's funny man.

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Every year man. Yeah. Okay, So before we get into Evan Gilly

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and we'll move into that, but
I did want to ask you, like,

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how did you first hear about like
all the phenomenon stuff, because we

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never talked about it, you know. I like, I don't know if

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like that memory is just like out
of my brain, but I have like

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this inkling of a feeling that I
think Nick just told me one day,

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like You're like, you're about Ryan's
dad, right, I'm like, no,

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what happened? And then it's just
like hook hooked me in man.

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Yeah, it's like, Okay,
that's insane. You know that's cool.

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I feel like I do remember it
being like that. I think after Jeremy

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dropped the bomb on me that one
time. It's just like something you just

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yet you gotta just like you gotta
tell someone else exactly, yeah, exactly.

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No. I mean we never talked
about it. You know. I

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told some friends about that, like
recently. I was like, oh,

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so, yeah, shout out Elissa, Trevor and Martona Els tell me coming

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on here. You know, that's
a nice nice you told them about it,

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yea. And I told it like
Trevor was like, I told him

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about your dad. I was like, yeah, I just look up Chris

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Bledsoe on like Google. He's like
immediately pulled out his post. That's funny.

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It's funny, man, because you've
been in my house like one hundred

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and fifty times. But we purposefully
hid this from people that came to a

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house like in the dark about it
until after, like that one time I

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got to talk to your dad about
it. I was a cool conversation.

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But you know when was that.
I don't even remember that at their house.

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Yeah, I was just at their
house. I was like, so

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like like what are they you know? I was like just asking all just

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told me, man, it's pretty
cool. That's sick. So and then

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the other question I wanted to ask
you before we get into Evan Gillian,

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which is gonna be so deep,
dude that I'm still processing that. We

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watched the fourth movie last night and
I'm like, what the fuck I thought

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there was monsters in the world for
fifty seconds like that. I don't have

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to go to work tomorrow, but
seriously, so, I know that recently

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you've seen a few orbs. I
just was wondering if you'd be willing to

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share. Like it's just like just
be like, you know, driving home

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from worker, just like stepping outside, you know, from work, needing

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a break. I'd see something like
orange and glowing kind of just like hovering

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around in the background. As soon
as I like pull out my phone to

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like take a picture, it's gone. And then there's this one time my

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cat Pedro shout out, Pedro eighteen
years, you know, he's going good.

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But yeah, he got out one
time and he was missing for like

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a week, and like, weirdly
enough, one night Ryan just called me

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to check up on me and see
how I was doing. I was like,

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man, I'm doing good. I'm
like, you know, no luck.

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But like my sister had been sitting
on the back porch waiting, you

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know, to see if he would
just come home or something. And like

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we're talking and then I just see
another one like kind of up at like

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almost like like a little bit above
the buildings of our apartments, you know,

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and I'm just like look, and
she's like what is that? Like

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that's an orb. I don't know
what to tell you, but like,

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dude, it's real, right.
Wasn't there also a thing where she was

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like wondering if it was a satellite? And then it did? Yeah?

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Yeah. She was like is that
like a Like She's like, there's gonna

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be like a satellite or a plan. I was like, I don't think

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so disappeared, Like yeah, it's
like that's how they work, bro.

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Yeah. She was just like like
in shock after that, you know,

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still brings it up every now and
then when we're talking have you contemplated the

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fact that that was a conscious entity
that was aware of you and exactly when

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you would see it at that moment
with your sister, If you process that,

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well, you know it's because it's
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was like I took it as like
a good omen and like three hours later,

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like midnight, I was just walking
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and I found him in a storm
draining page cat. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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So like he had been looking for
Pedro for like a week, like

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literally, and then the night he
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later, we found him. Come
on this, dude, and Nathan shout

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out, Nathan ye shout out,
crawled into a sewer duct and like I

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would cover him out in mud and
probably bodily fluids and who knows what else.

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know, he was like he was
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Come on, dude, that's crazy. That's no coincidence, Absolutely no

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coinesce. I'm excited to get into
Evan Gillian now because I wasn't really saying

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this last night while we were watching
the movie because I wanted to save it

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for the episode, but a lot
of a lot of the themes and and

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some of the like morals of the
movie really resonated with me about like the

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conditions to see the phenomenon, Oh
in what? In what way? Like

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well, well, maybe, I
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lay down a base of a preface. I'll answer your question and then we'll

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we'll start a basic preference, preference
whatever. Yeah, yeah, it's that

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dyslexic brain sometimes if you know.
But it was just like, you know,

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just just to give a little tease, it was it was the whole

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in the fourth movie, it was
about the AVA Unit one and the AVA

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Unit thirteen, but it was like
showing the symbology behind the number one and

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the number thirteen, hope and despair. The moral of the story as like

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he had witnessed such profound trauma that
on the other side of the trauma he

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was awakened enough to understand compassion,
and like that's that's the thing with the

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phenomenon, Like, you know,
thousands of people have reached out to us,

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and every one of them that see
things usually are traumatized. Yeah,

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and it's like it's it's like sometimes
the soul comes here, is weird?

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Is is going to sound out of
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of like awakening us, and the
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a story that have a lot of
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that's like one that's one of the
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To preface, Raven, I think
you are you were pretty instrumental in

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like getting me like really into anime. Yeah, you know what I mean,

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like really into it. Like when
I was a kid, I watched

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a couple things like I watched like
Dragon Ball Z and yeah, I was

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shown in basics exactly Pokemon. Yes, yes, Pokemon. I had.

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I had been watching Naruto a couple
of years. And then I meet Raven

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when we're like fourteen, and Raven
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Would you say? We aboo?
Would you say? I think that's

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kind of like what a cultured nerd. Cultured nerd I like to me,

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we aboo is like a negative you
know, but he's not a negative version

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though it can be. But some
people like wear it as a beast.

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I use it as an insult to
other Yes, that's yeah. I think

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more like more like anoisseur. That's
you're you're a connoisseur of really like most

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things, like Japanese culture, like
you're just into it like that. So

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so he showed he started showing me
like some really left field stuff, some

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some wild stuff. I mean,
you showed me Evan Evan Gallian pretty early

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on. Yeah, but like so
we're talking about this show. It's called

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Neon Genesis. Evan Gillian's from the
nineties. Yes, from the nineties.

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This is one of one of the
most popular like nineties robot giant robot anime.

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Yeah, yeah, and it's one
of you in my it's like probably

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Gundam was popular for what Yeah,
I mean, I don't know if it's

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hard as Gunda but like Adam's got
the whole market of like action figures.

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But that's what that anime was made
to do, was sell action figures.

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It's like Transformers. It's like the
Japanese like equivalent Gobots. But you know,

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oh yeah, there's no semantics for
this. Yeah, but yeah,

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that's one of your faces. Yeah
yeah, it's like probably number two on

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my list or two number ones fully
Coli. Yeah, that one shocked me

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because I thought you would say Naruto, I don't know, drawn four.

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I guess number four. Yeah,
we'll say three. One piece took that

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place. Yeah yeah, yeah man. But yeah, over the base that

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I want to lay down for this
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but like you know, are great. I like the movies. So

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Evangelian is a very complex show.
It's very dark, it's very deep.

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But most of all, and the
reason that we're so interested in it to

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talk about it today is it is
deeply, deeply a cult and spiritual and

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it's all about consciousness. So it's
funny because like the base of the show

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that the guys is that it's like
this like giant robot anime yep, it's

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like aliens are attacking Earth called angels, and it's like, oh, let

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me get my fourteen year old son
to pilot this giant robot. Yeah yeah,

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literally, oh cool, yeah yeah. At the beginning of evan Gelian,

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it seems pretty it doesn't seem that
complex. It seems pretty simple.

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They're like, Okay, the Earth's
being attacked by a giant alien. They're

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calling it an angel, and for
some reason they need these fourteen year old

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kids to pilot these giant mechs and
fight the angels. That's like the basic

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right, yeah, you kind of. Oh and by the way, uh,

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the whole time, even from the
jump, like the very beginning of

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Evan Gelian, it is dripping with
religious occult symbolism. Yes, dripping.

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Oh okay, So the facility,
the name of the facility that makes these

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giant robots that fights these angels is
called Nerve. What's the slogan. Slogan

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is God's in his heaven. All's
right with the world. God's in his

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So from jump, they're giving you
some nuggets of like they're talking about God.

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Well, dude, like one of
they're kind of like trying to be

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like let mankind take the wheel kind
of thing, you know. Yes,

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And the very first scene when Misato
picks up Shinji in the blue car to

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take him to Nerve, the license
plate was three three three. That everything

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everything throughout the whole movies, the
license plates, the buildings, in the

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back. The signs on the train, it's all thirty three three one one

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three one one three because you know, the movies are angel numbers. Yeah,

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constant thirty three's dude. Yeah.
So I mean like quite quite literally

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from top to bottom, it's dripping
with occult stuff. Even the titles of

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the movies are angel numbers. Literally, like the first movie is called Evan

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Gellian one point one one you Cannot
and two point two two yeah, three

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point three three you know you are
Not Alone? Saw something like that.

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Yeah, they have weird titles,
but they're all angel numbers. Yeah,

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so like literally before crazy actually they're
first they're originally like one point oh two

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point oh and then they made like
an extended version that's where you get the

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one point one one two scenes.
Yeah yeah, they're angel numbers way,

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yeah, that's what they made it. Like, so even before you turn

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the movie on, you're like angel
numbers, like and then you see them

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boom, they're fighting an angel and
these angels like when they attack, their

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energy manifests in the form of like
crosses of light. Yeah, so even

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before it starts giving you the deep
info, it's like it's subliminally showing you.

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Yeah, every explosion is like cross
shaped basically. Yea. Even the

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dialogue, it's like they slipped symbolism
into the dialogue. Like in the first

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movie it was talking about these kids
being part of Project Marduk, right,

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yeah, you know what Marduk is. That's the Sumerian like Christ like archetype.

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What's the son of Inky, the
big god of Sumerian tablets? All

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the little all the little descriptions of
facilities and places. It was all Greek

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mythology, Sumerian or Biblical names and
references and symbols like nerve like nerve hsques,

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like main supercomputer is called the Magi
system, and all three supercomputers are

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the names of the Magi from the
Bible. Oh my god. Yeah,

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oh no, no, no,
no, no, what are their names?

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I think I forget but anyway,
yeah, their name the three Magi

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from the the North Star, the
Star of David, is it? No?

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Not the Oh yeah, so it's
a mel koar, balth Bazar and

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cast Bar like like that's the name
of the mat computers. Yeah, yeah,

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it's just probably mispronounces. Do you
real bad? But do you find

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that out? In the first movie, how did you find that out like

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the nineties anime. Oh literally,
just like here's the supercomputer and then it

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like they all have like little labels
with their names on. Oh yeah,

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So that's that's kind of an important
thing to say if anybody out there's planning

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on watching, which I mean,
I think we can highly I would definitely

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recommend it if you like anime or
just deep deep crazy. Yeah. But

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so they originally it came out in
the nineties and it was an anime,

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like a normal episodic anime. But
then in like the two thousands, like

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the twenty tens, you know,
two thousand and sevens when the first on

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the first one, and they remade
the series into movies, which, in

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my opinion, and you know,
everybody has their own opinion about it,

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in my opinion, these movies are
a lot more palatable than watching the entire

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series, and I think they also
the series is a little more psychological and

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like kind of like a slow burn, but like it's cooler. It dives

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deeper into the like the mindset of
the characters, you know, but like,

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yeah, which is also cool.
But the movie is just like bam

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bam bam, here we go.
Yeah, it's here's all the sauce,

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you know, here's all the sauce. Yeah. So it's so really the

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first one wraps up. It's it's
like not a lot of like crazy mystical

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you know, stuff happens. I
mean, not anything too literally the craziest

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thing that happens. They're like,
here's the first angel. Its name is

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Lily. It's the second angel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

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It was the text and the dialogue
that was mystical in the first movie,

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right, you know what I mean. It wasn't like the things that

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were happening overtly like the fourth movie. The fourth movie just dunks your head

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into it. I can't wait.
So, like just some of the stuff

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I wrote down from the first movie
in the very beginning, it's like info

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dumping you. It says, angels
ate from the tree of life, humans

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ate from the Tree of knowledge,
you know, and it's like it's that

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it's that, uh, it's the
biblical like Genesis flood story, why God

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flooded the world, you know it
reset it's like the humans were becoming as

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God, you know, the whole
Tower of Babel. They were trying to

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reach the heavens. That's the whole
thing about Evan Gellien. Yeah. Literally,

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I mean that that is that's what's
playing out in front of you during

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the movies. What I love about
these movies. It took me to the

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fourth one to finally click like,
oh, this is what it's like.

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You notice when they're facing these like
reality breaking supernatural threats and they're they're using

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technology, right, but like again, I think the phenomenon the technology is

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like blended with the supernatural. Yeah
right, Like the body of the vessel

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is an angel. Yeah yeah,
Like all all are like just shared DNA

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of the angels. Like this is
the reality of UFOs, you know,

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like they call them synthetic Humanoid Evan
Gelian. It's like the the full title

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of the robots. Basically, like
that's that's essentially the reality of UFOs.

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Not that it's literal like spaceship baby
Baby, but it's like it's it's it's

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a it's an entity that transmits other
divine entities through realities. But what's crazy

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is like when they're when the humans
are piloting these ships and they're fighting the

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supernatural threats, but they're basically using
supernatural technology. You notice there's always like

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one more little button they can push
for more power. I think of the

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fourth movie. They're literally warping through
dimensions and they're like, oh oh no,

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no, no, we got five
percent power left. Push a button

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and some some like backdoor code,
yeah, and some bigger engine comes out.

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It's like it's like they were constantly
pushing the technology to new heights that

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were shattering the rules of reality.
You know, you mean, like,

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Okay, I don't want to go
on to that point because we're not at

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that part of the moment till we
get to like three point zero. Dude,

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it's insane. Yeah. Yeah,
So I mean, yeah, do

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you have anything else written for the
first one? Oh? I have a

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lot written? Oh okay, just
just little data points like sell the We

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didn't even talk about this yet,
so they introduced yes, do you want

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to explain? Sure. So one
of to me, one of the coolest

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parallels maybe not the coolest, but
most interesting parallels that Evan Gelian has to

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like the phenomenon and to consciousness in
general, is there is a shadow government

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in uh Evan Gelian called Sella or
Cela, which in German means soul.

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Right, Yeah, and just that
they're like this elite, hyper elite,

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one percent, shadow government, secret
society, occult knowledge. Yeah, like

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they communicate to the head of Nerve
through like monoliths basically, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, they literally look
like that, but like the symbolism

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on it. Yeah, and so
the shadow government, you never like see

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their faces, you never see like
their bodies or anything. They just communicate

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with these monoliths. The logo for
Sella is an upside down philosopher's stone and

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the circle in the middle is the
Apple of Eden, and there's a snake

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coiling around it. There's seven eyes
on the on the symbol, and then

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there's a quote. And what does
the quote says. It's in German.

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The quote is God judges above the
firmament, above the stars, as we

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have judged, is what the quote
is translate. Yeah, well this is

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what I found. I just looked
up the words cell and I don't know

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that this is a real, uh
correlation. I just thought it was a

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really cool coincidence. But in Scottish
folklore, seely or se e l i

406
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:18.880
e is their term for like fairies
and supernatural beatings, So could be a

407
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.640
correlation there. I mean, we
can't know for sure, but it is

408
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.960
cool. Yeah, no, yeah, that's cool. That's sick. Also,

409
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.240
like another like cool cool thing is
you know, I wanted to bring

410
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:32.279
this up earlier, but like you
know, the title is basically Greek,

411
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:37.319
right, the title of the show
Neon Genesis Evan Gillian is like Greek for

412
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.799
like like new Original Gospel or something
like yeah, you know, new Original

413
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.559
Gospel, which is like right,
calm, well, especially with the crosses

414
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.000
of light like yeah, you know, yeah, Christ consciousness. But yeah,

415
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.519
so it's cool because so essentially,
just to talk a little bit about

416
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.240
the plot so you understand like how
how Cell operates. It's like this main

417
00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.200
character, Shinji, He's just this
fourteen year old dude, and in the

418
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.200
very beginning you find out his dad
is like basically the head of Nerve,

419
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:08.599
which Nerve is like kind of like
the Men in Black kind of like a

420
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:15.480
very futuristic experimental wing of the military
that has these everything else. Earlier like

421
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:19.839
yesterday, I can't remember, was
it the CIA. Yeah, you're like

422
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.759
it's kind of like DARPA kind of
like that futuristic tech, you know,

423
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.920
and they have these robots and and
and his dad is like the head of

424
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.160
that. But as it goes on, you find out his dad is like

425
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.160
the head of seal or sell or
whatever. You know, he's working on

426
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.920
his own accord. He's like following
their instructions, but he's like doing his

427
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.839
own like secret shit in the background. He's like kind of like, well,

428
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.319
he surpasses them, Yeah, surpasses
all of them. And it's it's

429
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:49.400
crazy because there's multiple layers of like
shadow government in the military that that is

430
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:55.319
trying to protect humanity. And then
you have this like shadow occult group that

431
00:29:55.480 --> 00:30:02.559
is multi generational, has the supernatural
occult knowledge to see AONs into the future

432
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:11.359
and know how to orchestrate this precise
spiritual predestiny plan for all of consciousness and

433
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:18.240
and and like carry it out by
basically ritualistically forcing the prophecy to come true

434
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.319
ahead of time. And Evan Gellion, that's the Dead Sea Scrolls, right,

435
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.920
is like the guide stone to pushing
this evolution further. You know,

436
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.880
they call it the apocryphal Dead Sea
Skulls, which is a real thing.

437
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.039
So it's crazy. It's it's hereditaries
like that too. You know. It's

438
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.160
like it's like I think real life
is like that. There are secret occult

439
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.720
groups that have this multi generational plan
and everything that we see and experience are

440
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:47.799
just like tick not you know,
check that off the list of prophecy they're

441
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:52.200
trying to fulfill. It's very cool. They're in a pyramid. They operate

442
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.240
in a big black pyramid underground.
Yeah, but then Cell is in an

443
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.319
upside down pyramid. Yeah, it's
cool. It's as above so below.

444
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:06.880
It's really. Yeah. Nerve and
Selah, at least in the beginning,

445
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.119
like in the first movie or second, they seem like they're like opposite organization.

446
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.279
Yeah, it's like like Nerve works
for Sela and they like they still

447
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.039
have their own secrets. Like there's
that part in the second movie where like

448
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.599
Gendo and fut Skier on that moon
base and they're like, yeah, but

449
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:22.480
they won't let us on the moon
base. You know, they're like just

450
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.720
kind of circling around it. Yeah, like what are they up to?

451
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.720
Yeah, they're still keeping their working
on Ava mark four though in the background.

452
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:36.240
You know. Yeah, it's like
in it's like an extremely elaborate plan,

453
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:41.960
Like that's planned down to the most
minute d down to the decisions.

454
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.200
Yes, the people will make.
Yeah, they know the decisions that people.

455
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.559
They know the decision everybody's gonna make. They's predetermined, like you know,

456
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:55.119
the pilots are predetermined, pre selected
through the Marduk Institute. It's like

457
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.759
every child in Tokyo three has potential
to be an Ava pilot, but only

458
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.799
specific ones can ascend awaken. Yeah, yeah, that's what When do you

459
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.880
find out which movie do you find
out that, like the pilots themselves are

460
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:15.920
able to ascens at the end second? Right, okay, like he starts

461
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:21.599
the like their impact is it?
Right? So we should briefly breeze by

462
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:28.240
the impacts real quick. So this
Shadow Organization sella they are, you know,

463
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.279
doing these things to make these cataclysmic
events happen. And these events happen

464
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:37.119
in the form of impacts. They
call them impacts, and they're these huge

465
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:45.240
even world cleansing Yeah, like like
quote unquote angelic. It's not angelic,

466
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.880
but it comes from the angels that
they've been fighting and stuff like that.

467
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.279
Uh, and it wipes out huge
portions of the of Earth. Each time

468
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:59.359
there's an impact that just I just
clicked. I'm just like clicking more things.

469
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:04.240
Like the first impact was when Adam
comes to Earth like thousands of years

470
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:07.079
before, you know, humanities.
Oh, that's when the first thing you

471
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.240
know, where it was when Arctic
Wow? What Yeah, And that's where

472
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:15.359
that's when in like twenty ten,
twenty fourteen, Missado's dad is like out

473
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.400
there just in like you know,
excavating and stuffing. That's where they find

474
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.519
Adam, the first angel, which
triggers the second impact. And then you

475
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:24.920
were telling me this last night while
we were watching the fourth movie. You

476
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:29.200
were like, oh my god,
I just realized the impacts are the Four

477
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.759
Horsemen aclypse. It's because like an
impact turned the sea red. Yeah,

478
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:37.799
like wormwood. Whoa dude. And
it's like at that point, Gendo is

479
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:39.759
saying, after the fourth impact is
about to begin, He's like, the

480
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:45.039
four Horsemen have assembled, you know
he said that. Yeah. Last night,

481
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.000
Raven was like, oh my god. And I was like quack quack

482
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:51.720
quick yea, like it clicked save
it. Oh my god. Yeah.

483
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.279
Everything. So it really this this
series or this movie or whatever you wanna

484
00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:02.519
call it, it really like faithfully
follow the like end times and an allegory

485
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:07.000
it is. It's literally an allegory
for like biblical prophecy. Yeah, and

486
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:12.639
through the awakening, throughout the history
of this story, there are four major

487
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.599
impacts that they reference, and it's
a parallel to the four Horsemen. You

488
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:20.519
know, each time they get progressively
worse and different. It's like different plagues

489
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.280
human. The first one, like
I guess it probably only covered through like

490
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.840
Antarctica, which is kind of makes
sense to twise, like just like a

491
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.000
frozen hellscape. Yeah yeah. And
then the second one painted the sea's read.

492
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:35.599
The third paints the lands read,
you know, purifying everything. Yeah,

493
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.119
Like it's crazy, so crazy.
Now what what, Let's let's hold

494
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.480
off on the fourth one. We'll
build up. We'll build up to that.

495
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.159
What were you going to say,
I don't remember. Okay, so

496
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:52.559
the first two impacts essentially happened before
really the show even starts. Yeah yeah,

497
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:58.320
and then you we see the third
impact take place at the end of

498
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.000
the second movie, and basically a
lot of the second movie, if I

499
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:07.079
remember correctly, it's just like they're
fighting angels. There's a little bit of

500
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.199
exposition. There's you find out a
couple nuggets other way around what the second

501
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:15.880
movie was like a lot of introducing
new characters. They're introducing like a little

502
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.920
bit of a showing they're like,
that's right, motives like that when you

503
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.079
meet like Kaji and like you know
Osca. Yeah, the new pilots and

504
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:28.519
all that. Okay, so yeah, Mari Mari. Yeah, the second

505
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:32.079
one didn't get like super mystical until
the end. Yeah. It was because

506
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.559
they we're gonna have OSCA test out
that Mark four you know, Eva Gillian

507
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.280
unit, and it had an angel
inside of it. Somehow it was like

508
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:45.719
infected. That's why. Yeah.
And then like you know, Shinji had

509
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:47.639
the dummy plug system and they were
like, yo, you gotta kill this

510
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.280
this Evan Gelli and Saint Angels like
I can't. Osca is in there,

511
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.880
you know, he just does nothing, and they basically like add the dummy

512
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:59.440
plug system and like force him to
like kill Osca you know. Yeah yeah,

513
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.320
and that that's what infects the world. I don't know how that somehow

514
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:09.119
that triggers the second third. Well
what happens. Remember it's because he awakened.

515
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:14.360
Yeah, okay, it's because an
angel attacked and he had to awaken

516
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:19.199
to kill it. And also something
about Ionami. Oh, he was taken.

517
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:23.599
He was eating inside and angel ate
her and was gonna take her like

518
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:29.559
forever, and he awakened and like
jumped through that dimension and poor ol.

519
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.599
Yeah, and then it brought the
impact exactly so so in like a super

520
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.920
dire moment towards the end of the
movie. Shingji the main character, Yeah,

521
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:43.440
he awakens and it causes that third
huge cataclysmic event. And also just

522
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:49.280
like so that you know Shinji as
a character, he's extremely traumatized. I

523
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.239
mean, imagine being a fourteen year
old kid. You haven't spoken to your

524
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.480
dad most of your life, and
then all of a sudden you get a

525
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:59.679
call from your dad and he's like, hey, I want to have lunch

526
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:05.599
and how it always goes, but
can you also save the world for me?

527
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.239
Yeah, you show up and your
dad's like, yeah, we're not

528
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:12.440
having lunch. I just need you
to risk your life and get into this

529
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:16.000
robot you've never been in and try
to fight a freaking massive alien. Yeah.

530
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:22.880
Shinji is very, very, very
traumatized. He's also very very meek.

531
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:27.280
Yeah. Yeah. For the first
three movies, I didn't like that,

532
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.840
but after seeing the fourth, I'm
like I get it. Yeah,

533
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:31.920
I get it. He's an allegory
for christ consciousness. Yeah. He was

534
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:36.199
completely non violent and compassionate through the
whole movies, you know, and he

535
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:39.440
ascended past all of them. Yeah, like straight up yeah he uh so,

536
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:44.239
yeah, that's really like one of
the only super crazy mystical things that

537
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:49.400
happens in the second movie. He
ascends boom, third impact, world goes

538
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.760
crazy, and then uh, there's
a there's a fourteen year time skip yep,

539
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:58.519
yep, right between two and three. Yeah, y'all have any notes

540
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.079
on two that you want to?
Yeah, you want to. And I

541
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:05.639
feel like we've we've breathed passed.
We haven't even talked about like what the

542
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:09.599
avas actually are. You're not just
robots, oh yeah, for their sake,

543
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:15.920
Yeah, they're literally robots that are
synthetic clones of like the first Angel

544
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:21.400
Adam or the seconde so, and
we didn't even talk about the Lila thing.

545
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.800
So it's like it's it's like the
humans at this point are playing god.

546
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:30.519
They're they're studying the supernatural because the
angels, sure, they appear to

547
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:31.800
be aliens from off world, but
you know, at the end of the

548
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.960
day, they're supernatural entities that travel
through reality and through the cosmos, you

549
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:42.119
know. So it's like the humans
are mimicking the supernatural technology, but also

550
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.000
like it's real because they're learning the
mysteries of it. And you know,

551
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.039
so these avas are like basically part
angel and they have a mind of their

552
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:52.840
own. And we didn't say this, but every time one of the angels

553
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.480
is killed, and in the first
three movies a lot of angels are killed

554
00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:00.119
because you know, it's before the
avas are just fighting each other. There's

555
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:05.360
a cross of light, a massive
cross of light like think like mushroom cloud

556
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.920
explosion news, Like whenever you'll destroy
the core of an angel, it like,

557
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:12.880
yeah, makes this massive bright.
It's a cross of light with a

558
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:17.840
halo of light and rainbows arching all
around every time without fail when angels are

559
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.840
killed. Cross of light, halo
of light, rainbow of light. They're

560
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.599
telling you, it's like it's it's
the biblical symbolism. You know. But

561
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.679
where were we going after second?
Second? Second? Two? Yeah,

562
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:37.039
you got anything? The only thing
I really like because like I knew you

563
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.880
guys would pick up more than me. But like the key of Nebucannezzar.

564
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:43.840
Yes, yes, it's the guide
stone that will link man with God.

565
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:51.280
Basically, it's like literally the key
looks like it was a syringe to inject.

566
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:53.880
It was like a syringe, but
it also looked like a nervous system.

567
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:59.480
Oh well, Nebucannezzar was the name
of the matrix ship, right,

568
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:05.119
ye, And that's also yeah.
So in the very beginning of the movie

569
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.719
too, Okay, So movie one, you find out that the humans,

570
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.360
the groups sell the Evil Occult group, has made a pact with Lilith,

571
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:17.400
which was this angel that they had
crucified on a cross like under underground,

572
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:23.239
like deep under the nerve headquarters.
Is Lilith crucified and stabbed with the lancelogynis,

573
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.800
you know, yeah, and they
made a pact with her for power

574
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.280
basically. So in the very beginning
of the second movie, one of the

575
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.039
angels is escaping. I'm not sure
if it was Lilith, but it was.

576
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:36.280
They had an angel contained and it
starts to escape, and in the

577
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:40.159
dialogue they're like the angels escaping from
containment unit Cocaitis and I'm like, okay,

578
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:45.239
gotta look it up. So Cocitis
is ancient Greek. It is literally

579
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:51.199
translated into lamentation the river of whaling
in the underworld of Greek mythology. So

580
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.719
like it's constant like duality. It's
like heaven and hell symbolism, but it's

581
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:59.840
also inversed, like the angels are
basically the demons they are, you know,

582
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.519
it's it's that as above so below, like they're they're inverting biblical symbolism.

583
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.639
It's I mean, it's like they
hold them underground, crucified on a

584
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:12.719
cross, but it's Lilith, which
is the biblical dark. She's a demon.

585
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.639
Yeah, she's a demon, but
she's crucified on a cross. Yeah,

586
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:21.840
you know. Crazy. A couple
other lines from the second movie,

587
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.920
like Raven said, the key of
Nebuchadnezzar is the guidepost that we unite soul

588
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.559
and God. It will open the
gates of human instrumentality. So they're talking

589
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:32.760
about it's that left hand path that
the Seal group is trying to ascend in

590
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:38.960
in an attempt to like become as
God. Yeah, whereas opposed to Shinji's

591
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:42.719
path, which is the christ consciousness
path, you know, which is how

592
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.320
it you know, I guess we
could say, like that's how it ends

593
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.239
up. He ascends to love and
compassion and kindness and he becomes a God.

594
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.920
But in the second movie, they
say, chaos is in the eye

595
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.559
of the beholder. The world is
always made up of harmony and order.

596
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.000
You know, that's the most sonic
quote. Chaos out of order. It's

597
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:05.719
just it's spirit science. It's it's
like the wisdom of Atlantis. It's like

598
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.719
reality is dual. It's chaos and
order, light and dark in and yang.

599
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.559
And another quote that I thought was
profound was let me find it really

600
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:19.239
quick. And the end of the
first movie, they said Shinji needs love

601
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:23.960
only because only love will ease his
loneliness. So it's this theme of him

602
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:29.239
being so desperate and broken and traumatized
in despair. And you know, you

603
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.559
saw how the fourth movie ended,
he finds love and forgiveness even for his

604
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:36.960
enemies. You know. But it's
crazy, is that's how it ended in

605
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:40.000
the nineties anime, and nobody liked
that back then. I could see why

606
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.400
end of Evangelian, which is like
he was like, okay, well fuck

607
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:50.440
you, here's the dark forgiven and
it's so bad, dude, really it's

608
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.039
really good, but I mean like
bad, like dark dark. No.

609
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:57.639
I like this happy ending. Yeah, older, yeah, no, the

610
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.679
older I get, like the more, I'm like, okay, yeah,

611
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:01.199
that was great, but like like
ask me, like ten years ago,

612
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:05.480
I like loved end of Evan Gelly
and for some reason. I think.

613
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.400
I think, like real talk,
man, I get soured if shit doesn't

614
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.360
have a good ending. Yeah,
because it's like I've invested all this time

615
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.639
into energy watching these characters. We
gotta watch End of Evan Gelling, but

616
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.440
you're at least once you're just gonna
give me a middle finger and make me

617
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.960
have spent years in my life watching
this all be for nothing. Yeah,

618
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.039
that's what That's what Anno did with
End of Evan Gelling because he made it

619
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:27.960
happy at the end of like the
nineties anime. But like I said,

620
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.440
people a lot of people complain for
some reason. So like the ending of

621
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.920
that anime was just like Shinji like
accepting and loving himself, Like you know,

622
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.960
that's what we got from that,
like closure for him. You know,

623
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.800
that's awesome. So and I was
like that was great, and then

624
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:44.079
nobody liked it for some reason.
I love that, Well, it was

625
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.159
awesome. Was it different than the
way the movie ended? Though? Yeah,

626
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:51.159
it's I don't even know, it's
so much weirder. It's like it

627
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.559
still does like the thing where like
the fourth movie is like everything's like a

628
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:58.079
set and a stage. Yeah,
it does that, but like the budget

629
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.320
they were running out of budget towards
those last couple episode. It's like it's

630
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.760
kind of bad. It's like it's
still a good ending. Okay. So

631
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.840
uh the third movie, well,
I've got one more note from the episode

632
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:12.880
or from the second movie. And
there was a base that they were creating.

633
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.079
It was at called gold Gotha base. You know, gold Gotha is

634
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:21.119
gold Gotha is the place that they
say, uh, Judas is Scariot went

635
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.800
and basically killed himself after Jesus was
crucified. It's like the place of bones

636
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:30.280
and skulls. It's a biblical quote. Okay, whoa. So the freaking

637
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.000
the Biblical references are on a ten
in this. This is why I'm glad

638
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.480
we're doing this episode. Like I
knew you would like pick up on more

639
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.400
things than I did, and there's
more than by the third movie. I

640
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:45.039
just stopped writing. Yeah, it
never stopped. Yeah. Yeah, that's

641
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:51.440
what's great about that's franchise. Man. Every every little name of a of

642
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:57.519
a of a being, or a
facility or a government program, it's all

643
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:02.480
either fucking biblical, gree Smith Sumerian, a cult, Tree of Life,

644
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.280
Kobala shit. Yeah, none of
it was was random. No, like

645
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.760
they they pick and pull from like
everything. Yeah, like that's what they

646
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:14.679
wanted to do when they made this
anime. Like they say, like it

647
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.639
was just to stand out from like
your regular mac animes, like your gun

648
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:22.000
dams and stuff like that that were
going on. But I think it was

649
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:23.360
more than that, you know,
Yeah, it was on purpose. It

650
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:27.679
was definitely. You know, we
were talking about that earlier because yeah,

651
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.760
the creator of Evan Gallians like,
oh no, we just we just did

652
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.599
it look cool, Yeah, because
it looks cool and different and whatever.

653
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:37.840
But like you watch this and you're
like you are lies in show you like

654
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:43.000
the nineties anime. It's like the
opening theme has watch it now it has

655
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.000
like the opening has like the Tree
of Life like in it. Yeah,

656
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.800
in the opening theme, dude,
it's crazy. I feel like he's got

657
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:51.880
to be an initiative of an order
or he's just studied his whole life and

658
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:54.679
he's highly knowledgeable of of this esoteric
stuff. But it is not an accident

659
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:59.400
where it was just a psychic download, dude, because like it's essentially just

660
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.000
an animal for most of his life, you know, But I don't know

661
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:05.280
what he does on his free times, right, I mean believe it was

662
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.000
psyching downloads, bro. But like
with the symbolism that he's using, is

663
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:12.880
like it's too accurate. That's that's
knowledge that has to be collected. That's

664
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.719
that's not coincidence, dude, it's
two pin point accurate. Yes, like

665
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:20.119
precise. This guy is on some
ship. He's he's an initiative of an

666
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:25.199
esoteric order or I don't know,
he'd be knowing he be, he'd be

667
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:30.360
knowing for sure. Movie yes,
okay, three point three three three point

668
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:37.519
three Third movie, bless It starts
on a tin. Yeah, it's absolutely.

669
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:43.639
It starts like crazy action from the
jump Marion Oscar just in outer space

670
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.639
fighting an angel. Yes, yes, that was that was like that was

671
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:51.039
probably the first movie where the animation
was like stunning. Yeah, because it

672
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.960
was made more recently, right,
twenty fourteen or something like that. Huh,

673
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:58.559
it was like stunning. Yeah.
The movie starts off there immediately fighting

674
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:04.440
angels like from the jump, and
then like three or four angels in a

675
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:08.199
row they're fighting like it is like
intense, intense, intense. It's obvious

676
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:15.880
from the beginning of the third movie
that because the second movie ended with another

677
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:22.679
impact and Shinji awakening and all that
stuff. It has obviously ramped stuff way

678
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:27.239
way up. Think about the Four
Horsemen. As the horsemen appear, things

679
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:31.119
get exponentially worse. Yeah, Like
each each one of the Horsemen and they

680
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.719
show up, it gets worse and
worse. Impact is more severe exactly,

681
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.599
and it gets more intense and and
that kind of stuff. So, uh,

682
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:45.159
it's obvious from the start of this
movie that things are getting close to

683
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.400
the end or you know what,
well, the real the rest of the

684
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.559
you know, because Shinji's been sleep
for fourteen years, the main character,

685
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:59.199
and like some point towards the middle
or the beginning middle, he's like makes

686
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.400
it where he's trying to go.
He's he's been hybernating for fourteen years.

687
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.000
He's like basically a prisoner. He
escapes and then he's like kind of shown

688
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.960
the reality of the world and it's
all dead. Yeah, Like the whole

689
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:13.719
world just dead, Like when like
Marion Oscar in Space, the whole world

690
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:16.519
is just read it's dead. Yeah, there's like only small pockets of society

691
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:22.800
even left. You want to call
it what Zella calls it purified, but

692
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:28.239
he did it. Yeah, it's
all which which which further contributes to that

693
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:34.519
trauma, like because now he ascends, he goes into a fourteen year coma,

694
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:38.039
wakes up and realized, I basically
just destroyed the world. You know,

695
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:44.320
I basically just killed most of the
planet. I think it's worth mentioning

696
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:49.400
he was stopped from Yeah, we
we glanced past this. He was stopped

697
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.280
from fully ascending, right, So
in the second movie, he ascends.

698
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:53.400
Yeah, that's why they call it. In the movies, they call it

699
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:59.199
near third impact, like it was
he starts, he starts awakening to like

700
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.000
cosmic level consciousness, and he's like
he's like glowing, like a basically a

701
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:07.039
being of light, and he like
walks through to another dimension of reality and

702
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:12.960
like performs a supernatural miracle and he
like brings her back into the physical world.

703
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.639
Yeah who ray Yeah yeah, when
she's trapped inside that angel, you

704
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.920
know right right, they called it
miracles. Remember they kept saying we need

705
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:24.800
another miracle. Yeah yeah. And
then so essentially they they expound on the

706
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:32.079
information in the third movie they talk
more about how you know, these special

707
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:37.880
kids who are selected to to pilot
these big ava robots, they have the

708
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:44.480
ability to ascend like their literal consciousness. Yeah, awaken. They can awaken,

709
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:46.519
and when they do, they you
know, glow with light. They

710
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:52.840
become extremely powerful, and it's so
interesting because you're like, oh, great,

711
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.679
that's really cool. That's that's going
to help them fight the angels,

712
00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:00.599
right, they like they fuse with
their angels. Yeah, they're with their

713
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.559
evan Gellion. Like you see it
in that. It's not a robot anymore.

714
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:06.679
Yeah. No, it's like literally
Unit one's arm was like ripped off,

715
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:10.199
and you see when Shinzi ascends,
it like ros it sheds the fucking

716
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:14.639
material robot materials. Yeah, it
was just like flesh, you know,

717
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:19.199
Like but it's like kind of flesh
and light. It's like yeah, you

718
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.400
see like the arm come out and
it's like light and then it becomes it

719
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.920
kind of pops out like a lightsaber. Those Yes, it's very visually just

720
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.320
jaw dropping. Yeah, but they
finally like give you the info that like,

721
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.199
yeah, these kids can ascend and
it's a big deal. So you're

722
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.840
thinking, like, oh, great, they can beat the angels with this

723
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:43.239
now. But but all of these
dark organizations pulling these strings all of this

724
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:49.320
stuff, they don't want these kids
to ascend. They they put it under

725
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.000
the guys, or the excuse of
like, well if if you ascend,

726
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:58.400
that could start another impact, right, but that's like not like truly what's

727
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:01.960
starting the impact? Truly? What's
the impacts are that Sella has been putting

728
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:06.840
all of these things in place,
They've been they've been tweaking things, they've

729
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:12.840
been like placing breadcrumbs, leading everybody
to these very very specific events that are

730
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.360
causing the impacts. So they're using
that as an excuse to say, like,

731
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.079
no, we don't want these kids
to to ascend, and so they

732
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:27.960
put collars on these kids called is
it DSS Yeah, deification shut down collars

733
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:32.360
to where if they begin to ascend, it'll literally just blow their head off.

734
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:39.000
Yep. Yeah, rip to that
one. It's crazy because it's like

735
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:42.960
that one was put on Shinji and
he's just like took it off. We

736
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.000
know why he took it off though
by the fourth movie, right and how

737
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.519
he did it? Yeah, all
right, So then what happens next?

738
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.280
So in the third movie, we
know they can awaken and they're basically like

739
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:57.760
God's becoming gods. These AMA pilots, they're not ordinary humans. And Shenji's

740
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.239
with this other guy and he has
this duplication color on. You meet Calaru

741
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:07.840
in the third movie, he awakens
and what happens? Who awakens? Cower

742
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:15.719
awakes? Like why and what they
were doing? I honestly don't remember why.

743
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.599
Yeah, they were going down into
the like the help it to get

744
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.119
the two lances. Remember that you
thought they were going to be the same

745
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:27.719
lance. It was like cash Longinus
and Laungus. You think that they're going

746
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:31.599
to get Cashious and Longinus, but
Gendo put yeah, he put two Longinus

747
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:36.480
into unit thirteen. So let me
let me try to make that makes sense

748
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:38.639
real quick for everybody. I'm gonna
just give you the super super quick version.

749
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:44.639
Basically, think of these as like
like you know, primordial biblical artifacts,

750
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:49.119
these spears, like the spear of
destiny exactly. So think of it

751
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.960
like this, like in the earliest
stages of a planet. Let's just say

752
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:59.360
Earth in Evangelian lore, an angel
falls down to the planet and all life

753
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:02.039
on that planet comes from that angel. Right, There's only supposed to be

754
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:07.320
one angel that falls down to each
planet. And so let's say, remember

755
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:12.239
there's two main primordial angels that all
life come from, Adam and Lilith.

756
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.159
So only one is supposed to fall
down to each planet either Adam or Lilith

757
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:22.840
earth Head two both or Earth had
Adam and Lilith yea, and when that

758
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:29.719
happens, to prevent like basically complete
chaos from erupting, they sacrifice one of

759
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:35.199
the angels with the spears, so
the Adam would show up and he would

760
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.199
have the cashious spear, and the
Lilith would show up and she would have

761
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:46.159
the launginous spear. So Shinji goes
underground to where Lilith was sacrificed because they

762
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:51.880
both fell onto Earth, and he
was expecting to see both spears because he

763
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.079
knows that's what they told him,
is like, there was an Adam and

764
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:58.719
a Lilith, so you should go
down there and see Laungeness and Cassius,

765
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.679
and with those two together you could
write a new reality for this planet and

766
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:07.199
you could fix everything. He goes
down there and it's two longinous spears,

767
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:13.320
which is not supposed to happen.
It's like literally the whole time that everyone

768
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.159
is trying to stop him from pulling
the spears out to even like how in

769
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:21.239
the unit thirteen with him, which
like most of these eva are piloted just

770
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:23.800
by one person. Unit thirteen has
two. But there that's for like a

771
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:28.880
backdoor thing, you know, yeah, yeah, And everybody's trying to stop

772
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:30.320
Shinji like no, no, no, it's the wrong spears. Don't pull

773
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.920
the spears. Those are not the
right spears. And I almost called him

774
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:42.800
lufy. Shinji is so like determined
to like redeem himself because he you know,

775
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:46.079
he's he in his mind, he
basically ruined things to everything. Yeah,

776
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:49.360
he thought he ruined the whole planet. So he's like, I gotta

777
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:52.039
fix everything right now. So he's
zealous. He's way over zealous. He

778
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:57.079
pulls the spears out, bro,
and that's when you find out that that

779
00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:02.400
was orchestrated by that dark government se
they replaced the cashious spear with another lounginous

780
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:06.599
spear, knowing he would pull them. Knowing that he would pull them,

781
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:12.480
he pulled them started the last impact. So, so remind me why that

782
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.119
other kid awakened, because by that
point I was three movies in back to

783
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:20.840
back, and I was like overloaded
Fromentually. Cawuru was the first angel,

784
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:22.800
and all part of that plan was
to get him to ascend to become the

785
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:29.000
thirteenth angel, to trigger that Fourth
Impact. Yeah. So so the way

786
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:34.119
that he actually ascended though, was
I think. I think it's because he

787
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.960
got near Lilith, I think,
but because he was a like an angel

788
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.480
of Adam. I believe, yes
he was, Yeah, because Adam was

789
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.320
the first angel. Yeah. Yeah, And it showed him at one point

790
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.679
maybe in the fourth movie he was
in this eternal cycle of always incarnating.

791
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.880
There just for that to play out, remember, yeah yeah, yeah yeah,

792
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.280
and then Shinji eventually rewrote that and
made peace with him. Yeah.

793
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:59.280
Oh. Also those chokers that they
were, what were the crystals that their

794
00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:04.400
Socil crystal Vogel crystals, Yeah,
which are of life. So Marcel Vogel

795
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.000
was a guy. I'm not sure
what decade it was in, but it

796
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:12.639
was in the nineteen hundreds. Sure, I thought you were saying vocal and

797
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.519
I was like, oh, I
get it because it's near his throat like

798
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:20.119
Vogeoka. And Marcel Vogel was a
scientist. He was. He was a

799
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:29.480
legitimate like he created the technology for
lc dtvs oh squid crystal display. He

800
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.679
worked at He worked at a company
that it's a big company. It's like

801
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:38.960
IBM or I can't I can't remember
which one and he was like this fringe

802
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:44.079
like Einstein type who would get these
crazy ideas about crystals and how they have

803
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:49.920
applications and technology. And he started
having dreams about the Cabala tree of life.

804
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.360
And he had this dream where he
saw the ball a tree of life

805
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:59.039
materialize and then it's geometry shape the
dimensions of a crystal. This is his

806
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:01.280
real if it's in a dream.
And he woke up and he created the

807
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:06.000
Vogel crystal, and it's the most
powerful cut of crystal known to mankind.

808
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.599
So it's a type of cuts.
It's the cut. It's not an actual

809
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:14.559
crit it's just a quartz, but
it's the precision. It's laser cut to

810
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:20.559
perfectly mirror the geometrical dimensions of the
cabolatry of life. And he got that

811
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:22.000
in a try so. So,
yeah, those chokers that they put on

812
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:28.599
these kids have those like Vogel Vogel
crystal crystals in them, and if they

813
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:31.639
begin to ascend, those crystals like
come out and then go back in and

814
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:37.199
blow their head off. Do you
remember the fourth movie when he was being

815
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:44.079
shown that power plant that had all
those big devices that prevented the cleansing from

816
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.320
reaching their society. It gave him
a little pocket of normal earth. Yeah.

817
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:52.000
Yeah. The nodes of this power
plant system were perfectly arranged in the

818
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.320
cabalatry of life. Yeah, it
was actually the cabolatry. It was like

819
00:57:55.360 --> 00:58:00.199
the exact geometry. He paused it
and looked at it. Now, think

820
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:01.559
about this, Oh yeah, I'll
just put it look cool really, bro,

821
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:06.519
And then those devices that have that
power have Vogel crystals that are even

822
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.440
cut to the Caballatry of life.
It's too specific. It look cool.

823
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:12.639
Yeah. He ain't full of me, son, No, he ain't full

824
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:19.239
in us its way. It was
very artific architecture. It was it was

825
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.599
like a mind put all these little
pieces together very intentionally. He's lying to

826
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:25.719
us, bro, He's lying perfect. It's a liar. Yeah, he's

827
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:30.159
trolling. Hey. Yeah. Ryan
made a good point that, like you

828
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.199
know, a lot of this this
mystical knowledge, these secret societies, they

829
00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:37.559
are very hush hush yes about it, and they won't even admit when they

830
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:38.920
a lot of their swear oaths.
Bro, they can't just come out and

831
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.400
tell you like this is what it
means. They're not allowed. Yeah,

832
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:46.199
that's probably exactly what happened. He
probably has is a part of some this

833
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:51.679
is just speculation, but some society, and maybe he had to to write

834
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.599
like I ain't gonna say nothing about
my anime. And I don't know that

835
00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:58.000
for sure, man, But I
really do feel like there is a there's

836
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:04.119
some form of psyche, a coalition
of artists and creators of you know,

837
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.199
film and media and and and just
big high arc. I feel like there

838
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:13.079
is a push to put this esoteric
information into it, you know, I

839
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.480
can feel that. All right,
let's get to the finale the fourth movie.

840
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:20.159
All right, this is where it
goes. This is it. That's

841
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:22.559
where they take you out the kiddie
pool. I mean I kind of do

842
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.360
that in the third movie, honestly, honestly, yeah, well this is

843
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:29.119
where they push you into the deep
end. Like, this is where they

844
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:32.679
make you smoke d mt Yeah,
yeah, dude. They put the pipe

845
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:36.559
to your mouth and light it for
you. They're like, you're ready,

846
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:40.960
yeah, smoke roots. Yeah.
It's not about robots. It's not about

847
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.719
any of it, honestly. Yeah, Like from early on in the fourth

848
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:50.639
movie, it's like, Okay,
let's cut the ships. It ain't just

849
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:53.159
about these big robots no more.
Let's start giving you that here's what it's

850
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:59.239
all about. Yeah, and by
the way, I'm so happy that they

851
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.480
actually gave us the infant because you
know, so many of these like artsy

852
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:07.360
type things, they just still won't
give you the vague like bo was afraid.

853
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:12.880
That's why I haven't seen that one. You guys make me not want

854
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:15.039
to watch it, honestly, Honestly, bro, I can't recommend that.

855
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:21.480
It's heartbreaking. It was a very
disappointing. It's like, already astro Man's

856
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:25.920
that such a great people. Yeah, I got their flop. Yeah,

857
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:30.000
I know you, and I know
your tastes and stuff. I think you'll

858
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:35.519
actually like enjoy watching the movie,
and there were definitely moments where like I

859
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.320
was enjoying watching it for sure.
Just it's funny. It's very funny.

860
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:42.519
I think the best piece of advice
I could give you going into that movie

861
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:47.280
is like, do not expect to
understand a single thing that's happening, because

862
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:52.840
they will never explain it. That's
how I felt like when I was doing

863
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.400
the research for Evan Gillian on the
I felt like a maniac all this stuff.

864
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:02.079
It's a lot of info, But
Evan Gillian actually gives you the explanation

865
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:05.920
one way or another, you might
have to dig for it. At least

866
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.280
gives you the symbol so you can
do the research exactly. Might not give

867
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:15.679
you the information that they give you. You can find it in like PlayStation

868
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:19.920
two games that never came to America. Dude. The thing about Evan Gillian

869
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:23.519
is this literally recognizable symbolism. You
can look it up and know what it's

870
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:28.400
telling you. Yeah, it's it's
universal. And not to go on a

871
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:30.280
tangent about Bosa Fray, but like
he literally went so far as to like

872
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:34.800
take the symbols and alter them and
it'll just be like triangles everywhere. It's

873
01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.440
like, you just don't even know
what what are you trying to tell you?

874
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:39.239
It's like, okay, obviously this
is esoteric, but I don't care

875
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:44.039
because you see me as a dummy
who doesn't deserve to know, you know

876
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:46.440
what I mean? That's how I
felt from that, Yes, the way

877
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:51.239
up its own end, I felt
like it was a very arrogant movie,

878
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.480
like you're not even gonna give me
a crumb of the cookie, you know

879
01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:58.440
what I mean? Like it does
that's what y'all give. Hereditary was satanic.

880
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:02.440
I mean, it was it actually
was pretty evil definition. Yeah,

881
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:06.360
it's kind of spook though. Yeah, it's my favorite. It's my favorite

882
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:08.039
horror movie. Oh yeah, especially
that I'm sorry, I'm just going on

883
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:12.679
a tangent that she's like crawling on
the ceiling and she starts banging her head

884
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:15.840
really fast, Like if the first
time it scared the ship out of me

885
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:17.119
watching, like every time I watch
it now, I just can't help but

886
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:22.480
laugh because it's so this is the
last thing i'mnna say about it. I

887
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.639
went into that movie Blong, dude, Blong, no idea what I was

888
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:28.639
watching. I was like, oh, it's I hear a kid gets her

889
01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:31.440
head knocked off by a like a
like a lamp post or something. Yeah,

890
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:37.199
I was like, I'm in Here's
why. Evan Gillian to me is

891
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:42.079
like one of the greats of occult
knowledge. It's like it's like high art

892
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.559
because again, it like it gives
you the symbols and you know what it's

893
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:47.960
telling you. He's he's working with
you, like if you just dig a

894
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:51.920
little, you can find out what
you're supposed to find out. Yeah,

895
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.840
and and where the previous movies were
a little kitchy with their symbolism, I

896
01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:58.920
mean, some things are in your
face, but like you said, a

897
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:00.199
lot of the things in the back, you gotta look in the background.

898
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:05.920
But it's there. It is there. But the fourth movie couldn't be more

899
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:12.079
in your face, could not There's
the container holding everything together just pops and

900
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:16.719
it all just oozes out, like, yeah, they're fighting at one point

901
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:21.639
two of the AVA pilots like in
their avas. Also, can we talk

902
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:23.519
about the ship the woonder, Yeah, we never even talked about that.

903
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:28.880
Let's just fucking Noah's Arc basically.
Yeah, they're like that scene like we're

904
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:32.599
Missado's in there and I can't even
remember Ritsko. Yeah, yeah, she

905
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:35.800
comes up and she's like, you're
always in this room. We should just

906
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:38.559
making your office. And then they
explain they're like it has every single life

907
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:42.719
form in it and each container,
right, like, oh, I forgot

908
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.679
about that, yeah, missus Noah's
Ark. Yeah, she even says the

909
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:49.039
word the arc, that it was
designed to be an ARC. That's right.

910
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:54.119
So in this giant, massive new
ship that they fly, they also

911
01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:58.079
powered by AVA Unit one. Yes, let's throw that out there. We're

912
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:01.239
gonna put that in the supernatural technology. Uh huh. They're literally like they

913
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:05.119
turned an angel into a ship,
like yeah, you know, and and

914
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:11.000
it inside of it they have one
of every living organism on earth, and

915
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:15.000
yeah, it's an arc. It's
literally it's Noah's Ark. But at one

916
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:19.639
point two of the Ava pilots in
the Ava's they go into this like portal

917
01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:26.760
into this like it's basically the gates
of Hell. It's very obviously trying to

918
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:30.400
visually convey to you that they're going
into hell. You know, they're literally

919
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:35.039
going to Hell where Ghindo is to
stop him from doing. By the way,

920
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:38.199
we didn't mention that either, because
i mean, now we're here,

921
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:40.400
we're at the fourth movie, so
we can talk about it all. Ghindo,

922
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:44.639
which is the guy that shin Shinji's
dad who works for Nerve and then

923
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.519
Sell the Dark. We also Door
of Guff, which is the portal to

924
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.800
Hell. Basically. We also didn't
even mention that this group sell. I

925
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:55.239
mean, you mentioned they were like
German, but the dude, it's like

926
01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:58.639
it's the Nazia coal uh huh.
That was a real thing. The Nazis

927
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:01.159
had a cult knowledge. Gosh,
you think about the you know, the

928
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.440
movie, the way they had those
AVO units that were powering the one cannon.

929
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:06.960
You see how they were like marching, It's just legs like kind of

930
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:13.519
and they were like that green color
like a yeah, but I was thinking

931
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:15.079
that when I saw it. So
in the fourth movie, you find out

932
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:19.000
that you know, so many times
or how much time has passed because Shinji's

933
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:25.840
been like hibernating and like literally resetting
the world's population through cataclysms every time he

934
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:30.719
awakens or whatever. And the show
is very interstellar two thousand and one ask

935
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:33.840
where it's like always from Shinji's perspective, So you the viewer drop in when

936
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:36.840
Shinji wakes up and it's just a
new world now and everyone's age the new

937
01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:41.719
technology, and it's like what the
fu. Yeah that we discovered the gap

938
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:45.679
in this between three and four we're
going to call the movies because you know

939
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:48.880
it's three point one point, but
it was like two years right right.

940
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:53.599
Yeah. But my point is by
the fourth movie, the Evil Cell group

941
01:05:53.760 --> 01:06:00.159
has ascended to this level of supernatural
existence where they're operating from hell. They're

942
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:03.920
they're not human anymore. Yeah,
they they've they've descended into like the dark

943
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.679
rest that's what. Yeah, because
Gendo they were like he gave away his

944
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:13.079
humanity for like the knowledge and power, which is like when he went through

945
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:15.280
Yeah, you know, it's like
Odin sacrificing his eye and he takes his

946
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:19.159
glasses off and he has no eyes, remember. Yeah, But anyway,

947
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:25.920
they go down into hell basically,
and they're fighting like swarms of millions of

948
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:30.800
avas, and the avas are swirling
in sacred geometric patterns, and at one

949
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:36.639
point it's like a full spiral of
consciousness that then explodes into the perfect flower

950
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:41.639
of life, like the exact like
like literally it is the flower. It

951
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:44.400
is the perfect flight. So that's
what I meant with like, we got

952
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.199
a preface before this, before all
this craziness happens, there's like a little

953
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:54.800
bit of like a Farmville incident going
on. Yeah, there's a ray clone

954
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:58.960
learning how to be a human,
you know, and then Shinji's just being

955
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:02.119
traumatized in late down the whole time
until until he just yeah, that whole

956
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:05.679
snaps into it, that whole like
ray thing with like her like learning how

957
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:10.119
to be a human and stuff,
and like it like inspires hope and then

958
01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:14.320
all this stuff and then she just
gets her head blown off right in front

959
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:18.639
of Shinji, who just which interestingly
enough, starting to get better is a

960
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:25.400
huge turning point for Shinji because he
got super ultra traumatized from seeing that other

961
01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:30.440
kids in the third movie. And
so it happens to Ray and you're like,

962
01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:36.599
oh God, like his brain is
gonna snap, He's gonna be but

963
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:41.400
it does the reverse, turn him
towards the light. It turned him towards

964
01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:45.039
the light. He he like finally
had enough and was like, if I

965
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.280
don't do something, nothing's gonna happen, So I have to go. And

966
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:53.960
it like charged him rather than you
know, I'm sure they were trying to

967
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:56.840
have the opposite effect, just keep
breaking him so he can't do anything,

968
01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:00.239
breaking him and breaking him down,
give him hope, break him down,

969
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:06.760
you know, over and over exactly. But he he like transfixed or or

970
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:13.119
he alchymized his trauma. He went
past it. That's the word I was

971
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:17.119
looking at. He transmuted his trauma, pushed through it, and he actually

972
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:21.520
used it to like charge him into
you know, ultimately, and he he

973
01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:26.319
awakened, not in the literal Evan
gelion like I'm I'm glowing, but like

974
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:30.920
emotionally he awakened and he was he
was confident and he was not scared anymore.

975
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:33.920
He used to be a cry baby. Now he's like, sure,

976
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:38.800
I'll come fight, I'll save the
world. He wasn't scared or he changed.

977
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:40.880
He's just like immediately he was like, I know what I have to

978
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:43.279
do now. Yeah, he's the
one. He was like Neo, He's

979
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:46.239
like that was his Neo moment.
Yeah, it's like there's that moment with

980
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:50.960
Neo where you see like him become
the one, you know, and he

981
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:57.600
need to believe his personality changes.
Had that Yeah, you know, holds

982
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:00.159
up his arm blocking all the hits
from agents Smith like it's nothing. He's

983
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:04.399
calm, he's collected whatever. Shinji
has that exact same moment. The rest

984
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:09.800
of the fourth movie is that moment. Yeah. So basically like okay,

985
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:13.960
so we're at the part where you
know they're they're storming the gates of Hell.

986
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:17.119
It's like the final battle. They
get through the Gates of Hell,

987
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:23.520
and like you said, it's very
visually cutting edge, think like you know

988
01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:26.760
end of two thousand and one where
they're going through portals and it's like trippy

989
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.199
like DMT visuals. This movie starts
going in that direction and like at one

990
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:40.119
point they start diving through uh like
more exotic layers of imaginative reality what do

991
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:45.000
they call the anti universe, and
they explain like Boonder and the rest are

992
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:46.439
like, oh, we can't go
through there. It's likely human can't go

993
01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:49.800
through here. Yeah, not normal
humans, yeah normally, Well yeah that

994
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:54.640
they didn't we didn't say that part
that, like like Shinji Mari and all

995
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:57.840
of them are like literally just like
clones of themselves too at this point.

996
01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:00.079
Yeah, they're not the original.
Yeah, you find out that, like

997
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:04.640
all the Ava pilots, the reason
that they are special is because they're essentially

998
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:11.680
like they're descended from those original angels. They're like clones of those original angels,

999
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:15.920
like they basically are. So now
we're bringing in the Special bloodline ship

1000
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:19.800
great, more and more truth and
fiction exactly. So yeah, at a

1001
01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:24.560
certain point, they're like they're they're
not on Earth anymore. They're in another

1002
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:30.359
dimension with color DMT fractals, And
they literally explain to us the viewer through

1003
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:33.680
through character dialogue, they're like,
yeah, basically we're in the anti universe

1004
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:42.640
where everything is not like it's not
real, it's it's like imaginative. So

1005
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:47.760
the universe is going to create holograms
and simulations for the mind to comprehend the

1006
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:53.399
events that are unfolding. But it's
like all imaginary space, and it's it's

1007
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:57.520
like, you know, Shinji piloting
Unit one, like in that sense,

1008
01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:01.439
like physically fighting his father, you
know. Yeah. Yeah, so like

1009
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:08.880
Shinji basically descends into this anti universe
to to confront his father, and it's

1010
01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:14.000
like you're almost witnessing like their souls
battle. Yeah, and it's just showing

1011
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:16.800
it to you in a way that
you can understand, which is also exactly

1012
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:20.279
what the characters are going through,
like they're in. Like Ryan said,

1013
01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:26.600
this imaginative space simulations look like sets
exactly a movie show or like a movie

1014
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:31.319
a movie show. The fourth wall
of Evan Gillian falls apart, and next

1015
01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:34.880
thing you know, they're fighting on
like a Hollywood studio set because it's the

1016
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:42.319
universe giving them a simulation of the
conflict between their souls at this point.

1017
01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:45.079
But the battle's not real. It's
just like energetic. It's like their consciousness,

1018
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.399
Yeah, yeah, fighting each other
like they they are on the set

1019
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:53.439
of Evan Gellia Brain fighting. Yeah. It even shows a title card on

1020
01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:58.920
a projector for Evan Gellion. It's
because and it shows the nineties anime cool

1021
01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:01.159
because it's like it's at the end
of it. He realized it's like,

1022
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:03.800
oh, this isn't like we're not
supposed to fight, and he's just like

1023
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:09.680
they talk it out. Well,
yeah, they keep fighting for eternity,

1024
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:13.199
and they keep hitting a stalemate,
and then the father starts giving this dialogue

1025
01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:15.680
that's like, you represent the number
one. You piloted the first ava and

1026
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:20.720
the thirteenth ava. I'm piloting the
thirteenth Ava. We are this eternal pair,

1027
01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:26.520
one representing hope, thirteen representing despair. We are the equal and eternal

1028
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:30.199
opposites in our conflict will always result
in a perfect harmony. And then it

1029
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:32.760
showed these like sacred geometry symbols of
the two spears. They look like tuning

1030
01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:38.319
forks, and then it showed these
DMT like frequency patterns with the forks spinning

1031
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:42.039
and vibrating, and it was basically
it would also show another scene of them

1032
01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:45.119
just clashing spears. For all reality, it's basically like dark and light,

1033
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:47.239
yin and yang. It was this
cosmic cycle, and he was like,

1034
01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:50.119
your brute force isn't gonna hurt me. You can't. You can't affect me

1035
01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:54.520
in this reality with anger and strength. We're gonna have to talk. You

1036
01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:58.359
know. The battle is different here. Yeah, we can't. We neither

1037
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:00.800
of us are going to die.
We're gonna visit. This will go on

1038
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:04.000
forever. Yeah, we're gonna We're
in a different reality now. The physical

1039
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:09.199
violence is beneath our existence at this
point, which is like a kind of

1040
01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:13.560
like a weird allegory for reincarnation,
Like all the physical stuff you do doesn't

1041
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:15.479
matter. You have to do the
spiritual work. You have to do the

1042
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:19.039
inside, the emotional of the And
we didn't even mention the head of his

1043
01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:23.800
mother. Remember, Oh yeah,
when they when they descend into the imaginary

1044
01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:30.199
space, yea a giant like look
now, like three d renders. I've

1045
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:32.840
done DT once. I've only done
DMT once, and I'm in no means

1046
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:36.239
an expert, but I will say
my experience was exactly like that movie,

1047
01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:42.319
where like basically they're all coming to
terms of the fact that they're breaching into

1048
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:45.319
the imaginary reality and everything around them
is warping. You're seeing sick or geometry

1049
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:51.600
DMT like fractals, and then like
imagine you are on a ship on the

1050
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:55.840
ocean or like in the void of
space, Like your perspective is like you

1051
01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:58.520
can see the sea around you,
but then you look up and you see

1052
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:01.359
this guy and the void of the
cause most and the entire space of that

1053
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:06.359
void is filled with a face.
That's what they did in the movie.

1054
01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:13.119
But it was a real It wasn't
a cartoon. It was like a cgi

1055
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:17.119
head. They straight up just like
some uncanny It was weird. They obviously

1056
01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:20.720
tried to because you look at the
rest of the animation in that movie and

1057
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:25.880
how gorgeous it is, like the
most beautiful thing I've ever seen. But

1058
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:30.039
you look at that, it's obvious
that they try shock you. Yeah,

1059
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:34.439
they tried to make the most shocking
and uncanny, like uncomfortable thing they possibly.

1060
01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:39.920
Oh it worked. Reality is changing, you know. Yeah, yeah,

1061
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:43.319
things start to not make sense when
during this battle, things start to

1062
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:47.079
look different and feel different. Physics
starts to change. It. It gets

1063
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:51.359
yeah, like like the fights,
like the physical fights sometimes would be like

1064
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:55.479
in Tokyo three on the street.
Sometimes it was in like a kitchen,

1065
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:59.960
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. One time it was on a Godzilla

1066
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:02.960
set, yeah yeah, And it
was like cgi like it knock it buildings

1067
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.159
down like a god's element. I
really like the way they mess with the

1068
01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:10.800
animation at the end there. Yeah, it's and it's it's to convey that

1069
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:15.039
like we're outside reality now, like
things don't make sense anymore. Oh dude,

1070
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:18.560
we forgot to mention the part we're
a homegirl with the red hair oscocus.

1071
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:23.279
She awakens to like save him in
the end. She so like,

1072
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:27.479
dude, we glossed over this.
So she begins to awaken before reality completely

1073
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:32.479
falls apart, and like she becomes
this light being with a cross of light

1074
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:36.640
in a halo of light, and
she turns into this giant godlike being rainbow

1075
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:42.319
light covering her exactly. And then
in the spirit realm, she speaks face

1076
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:45.439
to face with her higher self.
Yeah, and her higher self self,

1077
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:48.399
her original self, the perfect version
of herself. Yeah, that ascended to

1078
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:51.880
God, and it said something to
her. It said something like she was

1079
01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:56.079
like, oh, behind the showing
off her call or she was like,

1080
01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:58.159
I can't ascend like you. And
she was like, oh, you're so

1081
01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:00.119
dumb, and she just takes it
off. But she told she told her

1082
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:03.239
something like the final level of ascension
is to become a god. Right.

1083
01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:06.560
Yeah, she said something like accept
my love kind of thing. I think,

1084
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:10.760
yeah, And then she just snatches
her out of here and takes her

1085
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:13.279
away, and she ascends out of
her physical body and she doesn't even die.

1086
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:17.640
Yeah, she becomes a straight up
white being. Yeah. Yeah,

1087
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:21.680
yeah, the robot, her actual
eva explodes. It's like her body dies

1088
01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:27.800
and her spirit ascends, you know. Yeah, that that happens before reality

1089
01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:31.880
breaks apart, and then reality breaks
apart. The movie essentially wraps up with

1090
01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:41.720
they are able to create an artificial
spear through sheer willpower human willpower, by

1091
01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:45.800
the way, which is something they
call them lillins, but like they briefly

1092
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:48.600
explained in that moment that like that's
one of the most potent powerful energies in

1093
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:55.319
the universe is human will power,
right, And they they basically manifest a

1094
01:16:55.520 --> 01:17:01.680
new final spear that is like a
combination of laungeness and cash and I don't

1095
01:17:01.720 --> 01:17:06.119
either, but SHINGI spear of hope, I think. Yeah, Shinji wields

1096
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:12.119
it, and then with that he
gets to completely rewrite reality and he creates

1097
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:16.880
a new, perfect reality. He
creates a reality that is free of all

1098
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:23.159
of this conflict of the Avas and
the Angels. He basically like he raises

1099
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:27.079
Evangelian completely. Yeah, And the
end of the movie is like, call

1100
01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:30.920
it Neo Genesis. It's real,
live camera footage of Japan. Yeah,

1101
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:34.399
Like it's not a cartoon anymore.
It's real. So what it's implying there

1102
01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:41.039
is that Shinji rewrote his reality,
and that rewrite is our reality. It's

1103
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:44.920
the normal life we're living now.
Yeah, it's it's our reality. Yeah,

1104
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:48.000
which would which would explain you know, the significance of all of that

1105
01:17:48.079 --> 01:17:54.119
symbolism and all of that stuff.
It's still like lingering around even if the

1106
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:59.439
actual physical angels and avas aren't there, that like you know, symbolic energy

1107
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.079
is still in this realm, you
know what I mean. Literally, when

1108
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:05.119
he's talking to Ray, like like
you said, they show like this like

1109
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:10.520
almost like projector thing in the background
that shows like the original nineties anime like

1110
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:15.439
fast forwarding through and he's like,
I'll rewrite a reality without Angels, without

1111
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:19.399
Evan Gillian, and she goes Neon
Genesis. Yeah. Yeah. Neon Genesis

1112
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:24.439
basically means a new beginning. So
like I'm I'm kind of I think in

1113
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:29.880
modern times there deserves to be a
list of like enlightening films. You know,

1114
01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:31.359
I'm working. I'm working on my
own personal list, and I feel

1115
01:18:31.359 --> 01:18:35.119
like Evan Gillian just has made it
onst It's been on the list. The

1116
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:40.039
series as all yeah, like this
is like one of like that series is

1117
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.199
like near and near to my heart
and I'm glad I could like get you

1118
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:45.199
guys to experience that with me.
Yeah, it was fun last night,

1119
01:18:45.640 --> 01:18:48.920
Like that was that was a blast, super fun. It's extremely like I

1120
01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:54.680
know a lot of you guys are
are probably like your brains are throbbing right

1121
01:18:54.680 --> 01:19:00.560
now. It's extremely complex, It's
extremely deep and intricate, but like the

1122
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:06.199
messages in there couldn't be more potent. It's high art. It's high art,

1123
01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:13.119
it's high occult, it's high spirituality, and like that is one of

1124
01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:17.279
the many things that makes Evan Gillian
so so dope. You gotta show they

1125
01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:20.880
haven't seen your toys, toys.
We gotta show Ravens toys. This is

1126
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:26.399
a gift from Angel. Shout out
Angel. He's our model on our instagram

1127
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:30.239
if you see our one of our
toy companies. But they make collectible boys.

1128
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:32.960
So that's Ava. Thirteen Rights is
Unit thirteen. You can see by

1129
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:40.479
the four huh, this is ava
Unit one got shout out Ben Jones for

1130
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:44.479
this one. Shout out. I
don't know. I don't know either,

1131
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:47.319
been he called me on my birthday. I love that boy. This is

1132
01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:51.439
from the end of Evan Gelli in
the nineties movies. Is Ray ascended as

1133
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:55.760
a God? Yeah? Oh my
god, I didn't even notice. You're

1134
01:19:55.800 --> 01:20:00.159
wearing the cella hat. Yeah,
we got the a shiny crying shirt.

1135
01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:05.760
Yeah, those glass Nicks. It's
got like Evan gillian Nike limited edition shoes.

1136
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:10.399
Yeah, the clothes are just like
honestly, they weren't very collect or,

1137
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:12.600
like a lot of the sneaker heads
were just like kind of thought they

1138
01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:14.880
were trashed. But I was like, those look like Evan Gillier's shoes.

1139
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:17.560
Av Gllian shoes. No, no, no, I just called him that,

1140
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:21.560
bro. I thought you were just
joking. I just called them my

1141
01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:27.039
Unit one shoes. But like,
no, they're like Nike blazers that collabed

1142
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:31.720
with a company called Acronym. But
that's not what we're talking about. Anime

1143
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:36.800
that is near and near to my
heart and my modern list is like and

1144
01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:42.600
this is no particular order it's like
Matrix two thousand and one. I guess,

1145
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:47.479
oh, definitely, Akira Neon,
Genesis, Evan, Gillian Sorretty much

1146
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:54.600
Ghibli Gibli Giblia, Ghost in the
Shell. Okay, we gotta watch Ghosts

1147
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:56.600
in the Shell. It's like that. Yeah, can I come back for

1148
01:20:56.640 --> 01:20:59.600
that one? Is it a movie? Yes, it's one movie. Okay,

1149
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:02.239
I'll watch a movie. One movie. It's like, it's so good.

1150
01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:10.640
Yeah, watch it now. We're
just kind of geeking out about anime.

1151
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:14.600
So I hope you guys enjoy it. Another one that he one thousand

1152
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:17.680
percent has to see Box No,
Yes, well, yeah, you gotta

1153
01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:21.399
watch that. You've been talking about
it. Paprika. Oh yes, yes,

1154
01:21:21.439 --> 01:21:26.279
I want to watch. We didn't
have Paprika, we would not have

1155
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:31.039
Inception. Yeah, literally made inspired
by Inception straight up. Yeah, Like

1156
01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:39.880
that's the inspiration for Did Christopher Nolan
direct? Was it black Swan? No?

1157
01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:42.079
No, no, no, no, okay, So Black Swan is

1158
01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:45.239
also inspired by another movie written by
the same dude. So Toshi Cone,

1159
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:49.680
great anime director. That's who made
Aprica. No, he Fabrica. He

1160
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:54.239
made one called Perfect Blue. I've
heard of that. It's very dark.

1161
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:57.319
It's not nothing. I don't think
anything esoteric comes from it, right,

1162
01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:00.880
Like you know, watch that on
your own accord. If we didn't have

1163
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:02.039
that, we wouldn't have Black Swan
either. I'm just like, hey,

1164
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:05.880
look at all these cool anime films
that made modern American movies. You know.

1165
01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:12.199
Yeah, that's so cool, like
how influential Japanese culture is. Honestly,

1166
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:15.600
bro, I believe you know what. That one we watched way back

1167
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.640
in Greensboro with Nathan You guys,
Oh my god, that's another good one.

1168
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:24.359
It's like a little twelve episode twelve. Yeah, it was short.

1169
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:26.560
I wish I knew it. You
told me about this, Yes, it's

1170
01:22:27.279 --> 01:22:31.399
you. It's sunny sunny boy boy, Yeah, you're about this. It's

1171
01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:35.560
like it's up there with like end
of Evan Gelian, like weird esoteric good.

1172
01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:41.600
Oh, it's it's very very weird. Love that. But it's on

1173
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:45.880
par with Evan Gillian and the fact
that they just give you enough to understand

1174
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:47.520
what's going to do the work and
find out. Yes, it's very cool.

1175
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:53.399
It's not a super short series,
but it was fantastic and then fully

1176
01:22:53.439 --> 01:22:56.680
coolly. If you want to turn
your brain off and watch another robot anime,

1177
01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:59.720
yeah, yeah, I seem fully
COOLi back when I was in middle

1178
01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:03.039
school, I don't really remember it
that well. I remember it was very

1179
01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:06.279
weird, but like I liked it. Oh yeah, it was kind of

1180
01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:10.199
a cult classic kind of vibe.
But dude, I just I love that.

1181
01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:15.479
Like high art, I feel like
I feel like Japanese anime in general

1182
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:20.039
has some of the most spiritually profound
mesthals for sure in their work. Yeah,

1183
01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:24.159
I would agree for sure. It
seems like, uh, you know,

1184
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:30.960
Eastern mysticism. Eastern spirituality is like
very potent even to the even Yeah

1185
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:33.479
for sure. But but there's a
lot of Western and evangelia. There's all

1186
01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:38.439
biblical prophecy. Yeah for sure,
it's but yeah, there's a lot of

1187
01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:42.439
that, like it's it's so can
even if like video games, think about

1188
01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:45.159
Japanese video games, Yeah, they're
all super spiritual. I mean not all,

1189
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:49.640
but means some of them are just
giant robots. Also, but I

1190
01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:55.720
feel like I felt like Japanese animation
and art in general, yeah, media

1191
01:23:56.039 --> 01:24:00.319
probably doesn't have the strict restrictions that
the American you know, like Western,

1192
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:04.159
because I feel like I feel like
there's a lot of censorship. I feel

1193
01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:08.800
like there's a lot of negative agenda
in Western media, like if there really

1194
01:24:08.920 --> 01:24:12.520
was a secret control group. I
think they have their fingers on Western media.

1195
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:16.640
But it seems to me like Japanese
media is so free with with this

1196
01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:23.000
esoteric knowledge. It's it's it's like
someone lightning shit. Bro Akira changed me,

1197
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:27.159
Oh, we're gonna have to do
an episode about definitely going to do

1198
01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:30.800
it. You mentioned in passing Zone
of the enders. It's like, no,

1199
01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:34.720
that's very esoteric, dud. The
little items in the little items that

1200
01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:40.000
you pick up to hal yourself are
Metatron cubes. Damn. You reminded me

1201
01:24:40.039 --> 01:24:43.800
of something I wanted to talk about
Metatron, about Evan Gillian. This was

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my running theory of Evan Gillian.
I feel like it's the story of Metatron.

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Metatron. Yeah, you mentioned that
earlier before we started this, and

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this is a deep sub I've been
wanting to do an episode on this anyway,

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Like I've been talking to Jenny about
this this week about how much I've

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been just really wanting to talk about
Metatron. Last week or the week before,

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Jenny put the Metatron's cube post on
our Instagram, remember, because she

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asked me and I was like,
I want you to post that I'm getting

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ready to research an episode or whatever
Metatron is is. I think it's in

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the Keys of Solomon, which was
like an esoteric Arabic text about the biblical

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prophet Solomon. You know. According
to the Keys of Solomon, Enoch from

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the Bible was after he lived his
human life and he reached the level of

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being a sage and like being the
scribe of God and communicating with God.

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The story goes according to the Keys
of Solomon and according to the Zohar,

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which is a mystical Cabbalistic you know, like Cabbala. Yeah, it's a

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Cabala text. According to the Keys
of Solomon and the Zohar, Enoch has

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sended to become Metatron, like basically
the king of the archangel's the highest archangel,

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and it's the story of mankind through
perfect knowledge and all the christ consciousness

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shit, you know, ascending to
become an angel, to become a divine

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being. And I feel like that
was the story of Evan Gillian. He

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was basically Metatron. Bro. Yeah, he was like this human that ascended

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to be a god and he rewrote
all of reality and like it's it's it's

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pretty crazy. Like, I think
Metatron is real. I think I think

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the archetype of christ consciousness is also
the archetype of Metatron. It's like the

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story of us ascending to being divine
enlightenment. Enlightenment, Yeah, okay,

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that's yeah that if you had to
sum up like kind of like the moral

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of Evan Gillian, I think that's
perfect. But he's literally turns into an

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angel like Metatron. Yes, you
know, story and the movies are three

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three three. Obviously there's a one
one one to two two two, but

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then there's a what's the last one
point one point zero one one point There's

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a lot of three and one combination
one three, like the thirteenth abo the

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first one and one three, or
the license plate in the beginning was three

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three one. There's a lot of
combinations of one and three. I'm like

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kind of glad they went with that
title because like, for the longest time

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before this last movie came out,
I thought it was gonna be called like

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four point four four or something like
That's it's like kind of we're about to

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take this to the next level,
Okay, But Metatron's number is eleven thirty

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three, right, you know,
so that you could you could stretch that

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that number is hinting at Metatron's number. Now, all of these secret societies

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believe that, like we're talking real
human history. They really believe that Enoch

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and Hermi's trus Mejistus were one and
the same. The story of Metatron is

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the story of Hermi's trus Mejestis.
It's this ancient being who revealed the Wisdom

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Emerald tablets. You know, it
was the first ever mystery school of secret

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society. Enoch would have been somewhere
around five to seven thousand years ago if

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if that you know, biblical version
of history is true or whatever, and

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he ascended and he never died of
physical death, and he went on to

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become most like Biblical and like religious
texts all have like very similar stories.

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So I can definitely see that being. I could too, But that's like

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in mystical texts. It's it's they
they like Freemason's Rosa Crucians, all of

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these like prominent esoteric groups. They
believe that the biblical Enoch and Hermistry's Manchesters

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for one being, and they were
heard, and they really believe he ascended

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to be Metatron. Wow, yeah, I did. Not know that parallel.

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Well, what does it sound like
the phenomenon? They're angels, But

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it's also our higher self consciousness.
It's consciousness where where it's just a spectrum

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of consciousness. And actually, I
know this is I'm rambling here, but

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Jim Simmy then shout out, Jim, he's he's very high level guy in

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the CIA, and he's he's he's
a nice guy. And he wrote a

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forward in my dad's book. But
anyway, we were at a mutual friend's

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house one time for Easter with Jim
and his wife and and and some other

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friends of my dad's whose whose names
are casually mentioned in the book. And

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I was talking one on one with
Jim, and he was explaining to me

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how he and those in the know, you know, in the Department of

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Defense and the secret groups in the
government, see the phenomenon and they believe

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that it's a spectrum of consciousness.
They believe that there are levels of existence

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in this reality. And they believe
exactly like you know, it's it's it's

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ascending to next levels of psychic existence. And he set straight up like the

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lady and entities like her, or
beings that are so godlike powerful that through

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thought they can change reality. If
they wanted to, they could think of

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thought and just destroy an entire planet
or solar system or whatever point being.

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They believe that way, that it's
a spectrum of consciousness ascending through reality.

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Angels are like in a sense,
like kind of like that and Evan Gilly

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and like the light beings, I
mean, yes, yeah, I think

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that's what there are that if they
if like the light beings of you,

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it's an allegory stuff exactly exactly,
Evan Gillian, is an allegory for like

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phenomenon, the phenomenon and the awaken
of the awakening of consciousness. Yeah,

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and like I believe these esoteric groups
all have the knowledge of the phenomenon and

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they know that it's about spiritual or
like an esoteric awakening. We all learn

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the secrets and the mysteries of consciousness, and that's why they're trying so hard

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to teach us all that it's all
aliens UFOs. We all have to be

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material, live that life, chasing
money and don't worry about the spiritual mystical

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things, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, it's crazy, man,

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I recommend Evin Gillian. We got
the official stamp of approval. Yes,

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it's it's on my all time esoteric. Yeah, we should like compen

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draft up a list like official list
of Yeah, and that would make it,

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that would make it so. Yeah, thanks Raymond, Yeah, thanks

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for coming. Yes, this this, we'll do it again for sure.

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Yeah, we got to that.
I want to do that the episode.

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Hey, okay, yeah you don't
like that, let's do it. You

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don't like it, yeah, we'll
do it sure. So hopefully you guys

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enjoyed this. We definitely plan to
do maybe this will wet your whistle.

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We plan to do Akira and Princess
Mononoke relatively soon, so, but we're

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also going to space them out for
those people who don't know anime. But

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right, trust me, weves but
trust me, this stuff is so deep

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and spiritual. It's honestly, it's
interesting to hear about either way. It's

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it's just real. It's interesting to
see the symbolism and the visual whoa the

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mt like visuals and Emma Gillian and
yeah, all right, you know how

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we wrap it up? Right?
All right, let's do it three two

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one by Weird Things Happen in the
backyard Blitzo House. Yeah, it got

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kind of closer to drain, like
spiraling on the inside of it. No

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one other thing. Wow, it's
come ride ever die Shine, Get Camp.

