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Welcome to the nonprofit. We scour
the internet searching for proof of deities and

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the supernatural. Despite not finding information
to convince us of the existence of any

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god, We're here to tell you
what we have found. So buckle up

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welcome back to another episode of the
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topics of the day from a skeptical
humanist perspective. My name is Cynthia,

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and today's topics are there's something and
we're gonna get back into it. There

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they are quite something, and the
panel agrees. So before we get into

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all that, let's go ahead and
introduce the hostess. Assisis is with the

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most starting with my far left,
Scott Dicky, Welcome back, thank you,

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thank you. I'm looking forward.
I got some of my favorite panelists

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on this evening, and so we
should have a good time ahead of us.

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I think I agree, I totally
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had the utest cartoon this side of
the Western Hemisphere. Tale l tale A

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so much. Yeah, you are
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and you make me happy, and
I'm so happy to be here on so

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pumped up just like Scott. Some
of my favorite people are in here,

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so of course I'm ready to have
a great time today. Alrighty well,

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we're so glad they were your favorite
and we just love your passion. You

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shoo Scott. Oh. If you
also notice, like Scott has a new

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dude, you should you should model
model really quick. For um. I

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want to say he got inspired by
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on glasses too. Yes, yeah, well you know Tale is a tras

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center as he is, he's got
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is he is and and and and
speaking ahead of the curve. We also

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have a fellow host host host host
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Hey, Kelly, how you doing? I feel really lucky to be

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on a panel with three great people, and then then you got me,

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so I'm really happy to be here. That's because Kelly, you are greater.

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So how about that. Thanks.
We loved your rocks, yeah,

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we always love your rocks. You're
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do you want rocks? Rocks?
Rock? You take them for granted.

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Okay, that jokes. So let's
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of my three two of my favorite
panelists aren't tonight. You know what?

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That was a perfect segue to go
ahead and to talk about what we're going

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to talk about. Guys, So
ready, let's we're going to talk about.

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In the first segment, some shit
Internet apologists say GOP chair goes full

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flat Earth. Yes, yes,
an elect official elected official is talking about

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how the earth is flatficial elect official
elect official is saying some things. Yes,

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yes, GOP is uh. In
our next segment, m in my

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backyard, Um, Illinois Catholic clergy
abused more children than reported, so we

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will discuss that. And then we
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Florida Well, it's not like brand
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to go through it and I'm super
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a Florida man claiming bud Light released
Hell on Earth. I missed the memo.

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I missed the memo and um.
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have a step in the right direction
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night for a list of the articles
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said, we're going to go into
segment numeral one, and it's going to

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be a shit shit Internet apologist say. Internet apologists say, all right,

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we knocked that out of the park. I'm gonna give us the thumbs up

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on that one. Boy, we
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for our shit Internet apologists say,
So, we're talking about Here's the title

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of the article, Georgia geop chair
goes full flat Earth says globes are part

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of a conspiracy. And this article
was written Nicki McCann Ramirez at Rollingstone dot

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com on May twenty fourth of this
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bathe in the glory of that headline
for a moment. It's Georgia Goop chair

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goes full flat Earth says and this
is my favorite part, says globes are

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part of a conspiracy. So we're
talking about Candice Taylor. She has recently

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elected GOP district chair from Georgia,
and she was heard on her podcast.

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She has this podcast called Jesus,
Guns and Babies. I want to make

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a note of the order of those
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But she was speaking with a couple
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David Weiss, who is also known
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Not sure who that was, but
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Earth is really flat and that the
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of conspiracy to I'm sure whatever the
conspiracy is for it's it's certainly something really

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nasty, I'm sure. So.
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for governor of Georgia in twenty twenty
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had failed. According to her,
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that she won in the Republican primary
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the voters and that the election was
rigged in favor of her opponent, Governor

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Bryant Kemp, who had seventy three
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So apparently the vote counters in Georgia
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numbers. That's a big swing there, But you know who would have thunk

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it. Now, before we talk
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an apology as I'm a member of
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to apologize to Candice Taylor for the
obvious and utter failure the education system has

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had in preparing her to be a
productive member of society. So ironically and

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frighteningly, actually, Taylor is also
a teacher. She's a third grade teacher

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in Georgia, so watch out for
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got up first? Tao, Y're
up next year? Oh yeah, I'm

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always ready. Yeah. I would
talk about the education or system and how

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it has failed to these people,
but I want to start by doesn't really

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surprise to anyone that they said this
silly thing in a podcast called Jesus,

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Guns and Babies with a guy called
Flat Earth Day. Okay, if you're

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going to say something that's stupid,
fine the stupid place. It's so good

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he that flatters Dave found his niche, because I think if he had not

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found that, then he would have
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It's a good thing that he found
his place. Some people find when

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I need Okay, I guess this
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a good Christian who actually believes their
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why they're doing that. Because whenever
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oh, hey, did you know
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Bible, I say yes. If
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twenty two fourteen, the original or
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the earth is described as McGall mcca
is a circle. For those people out

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there who know what, who know
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is a flat figure with around circle
around around flat figure. Why well,

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because remember that the Bible is just
a flat thing that has a dome on

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top, and over that dome there
are the waters that had to flat the

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whole planet or into Genesis. So
whenever any Christian says, or any believer

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actually says, oh no, no, no, the Bible says the earth

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is not a flat they are lying. Check your Hebrew megal literally a circle,

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and then they say no, no, no, But the Bible was

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written in an old time and the
world sphere didn't exist because they never read

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Isaiah twenty two eighteen, where they
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spherical three D shape, a ball, or a sphere. Yeah. So,

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yeah, guys, this person is
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educational system failed to this person,
and this person decided to start believing the

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Bible, and that will led this
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that humanity house at their disposals,
and I think that is very sad for

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me, quite sad, really,
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first, I want to say that
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official could say something like this,
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some of the things I've heard many
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all anymore. It's just it just
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spectrum. And on top of that, if you know anything about Candice Taylor,

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as Scott pointed out, you would
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Um. One thing that Scott didn't
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had come out and actually called for
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they were. That was something we
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a few months ago when they were
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the people calling for that. She
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for that. Um. Mike Lindell, who actually backed her up on the

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bad election, claims again, Yeah, there's no way that you could get

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like a seventy three percent to three
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And it wasn't It's just not her
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her campaign slogan was Jesus, guns
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Scott, I want to tell you
why. I have a little bit of

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experience talking the flat Earthers, and
the reason they think that the elites are

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keeping this information from us is that
they believe there's actually a lot more of

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the Earth that because the Earth is
flat, it's there's a lot more of

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it, and these elites are keeping
all these parts of the Earth away from

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us so that they can exploits.
You can't have any of them unless we

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buy them from that I get it
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just call me flat Earth Scott.
I'm convinced, you know, she's

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She's pushed all kinds of crazy conspiracy
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all communist, which I can't figure
that one out, and Democrats are all

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Satan worship worshippers. So her saying
she thinks the earth is flint man,

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Yeah, man, Cynthia, you
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the whole thing I was just thinking
when I was listening to her rant

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was gloves, gloves, golove,
gloves, glove gloves everything. Well,

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you you know you've heard of big
oil, right, big tobacco. Now

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we're talking big balls. Right,
That's what this say is the propagandish big

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balls. It's all about the big
balls. Baby, Oh my gosh right,

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insert wraps from the ninety But you
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um, I know, like a
lot of you guys actually discussed about Kenda

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Taylor her failed GOP run for governor
of Georgia. And you know the crazy

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thing about it was is that her
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about Jesus, guns and babies,
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was running alongside her. It's just
that I just think that her what kind

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of shot her on the foot is
that she was just way more extreme with

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it, and because like it seemed
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was a conspiracy theory. When she
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like these different pillar talking points that
she would like a lay out during her

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campaign, and one of the final
ones when she said that when I talk

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about this, it's really just going
to blow your mind and just knock off

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the entire conspiracy of everything. And
that's when she was talking about the Georgia

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Guides guidestones, which you know,
this is a piece of arts, not

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that overwhelming, it's kind of underwhelming. Um. But like I think that

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she just has a tendency just to
put a lot more into things than what

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it really is. And that's what
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conspiracy theorists. Um. But you
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talked touched about this a little bit. If we're talking about the Hebrew about

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you know, different words and where
it comes from. Flat. But you

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know, most of these crystal fascists
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term most of them are not sure. I'm pretty sure we don't even know

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what etymology means you know, you
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like that, something that I wrote, because now that saying that I just

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found that I wrote. If she's
the leader of the republic we Can Party,

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I have to admit this really makes
me extremely worried about the IQ of

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the Republican Party under people supporting these
potation genius Yeah, well, you know,

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she like forty five, she's a
certified genie or what did he say?

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He said, I'm a real genius, some genius. It don't matter,

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he gone. But one of the
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out if like if we're just going
on surface, because this is really what

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I wanted to discuss as I actually
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happened with her and her rants and
flat Earth Day and Matt Long, who's

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not short to see what I did
there? Um, y'all supposed to laugh,

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but never mind, Um, you
might offense. They didn't see it,

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so it's okay, it's okay,
but um. But one of the

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things that I want to point out
is that if you actually look up scriptures

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that are supposedly to lead to a
flat Earth, it really does not say

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anything like that. I'm just going
to point out this a few like a

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couple that's in the Old Testament and
a couple that's in the New First Chronicle

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sixteen thirty tremble before him, all
the earth, the world is firmly established.

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It cannot be moved. For Samuel's
second eight, he raises the pour

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from the dust and lifts the needy
from the ash heap. He seats them

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with prices princess sorry, and has
them inherit a throne of honor, For

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the foundations of the earth are the
lords on them. He has set the

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world. I was also looking up
specifically scripture that had to do with the

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firmament, because this whole thing about
the earth is under a dome, and

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under that is the firmament and the
waters and all that other crazy stuff.

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And Genesis first Genesis Genesis one,
rather six through eight. Then God said,

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let there be an expanse in the
midst of the war waters, and

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let it separate the waters from the
waters. And God made the expanse and

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separated the waters which were below,
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above. This expanse, and it
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and there was evening, and there
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I wanted to run over to our
favorite book in the world, Revelations for

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Obvious Reasons, Revelations seven. One. After this, I saw four angels

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standing at the four corners of the
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the Earth to prevent any wind from
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or any tree. I think that. But one of the things I did

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not point out specifically, but I
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the most scriptures concerning the earth.
But he never mentions globes or not globes,

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or spears or not spears, or
any of that. Now, even

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if I flatter Job, no,
no, no flatter of Davis on his

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own with that one. Um.
But even if I granted that the story

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of Job is true, this was
a man that was laid sick on the

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brink of death caused by God because
he and the devil were made a bet

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in pain, I am pretty sure
that he ended up having a hallucination or

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two or three or four, because
like, if you in pain like that,

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you almost did and whatnot, and
your flesh is eaten away you know

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that I find your lack of faith
disturbing you. You know I didn't tell

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him stuck. Come on, come
on, I'm trying to figure out where

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the four corners of a circle are
at. You know, well, as

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as as the only math teacher in
the room here, I can chip in

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on this. And I have found
that the geometric misconceptions in the Bible fall

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well within the normal array of mistakes
that people make about geometry. So so

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so I think we can maybe cut
them a little bit of slack. If

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you've seen the thing, if you've
been where I've been, seen the things

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that I've seen, you'll know that, oh, that's just perfectly normal human

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beings making mistakes. On that one, I just like to say really quick

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Scott before because I know that you
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in on that. When i's a
geometry, um, the answer to all

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of the theorems, we're CPCTC oh
definitely yeah part Do you remember what it

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stands for? Hell no, I'm
pretty sick. Congruent parts? Were congruent?

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Triangles? Are congruent or no corresponding
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parts? Well, we're losing our
audience. So let's quick get back to

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the Yes, let's get back the
flatters people. Yeah, globes everywhere.

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Oh well, the funny thing about
that, about that quote Cynthia that you

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were talking about, it is so
here's what she said, and it sounds

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funnier, even funnier than the way
that you already presented. She said,

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all the globes everywhere. Taylor said
later in the discussion, I turn on

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the TV. There's globes in the
background. Everywhere, there's globes. You

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see them all the time. It's
constant. My children will be like,

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Mama, globe globe, globe,
globe, They're everywhere. It's like,

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really, I've never noticed. You
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like you know, you buy a
new jeep and then you see all the

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jeeps on the road. You know, maybe she's just like getting obsessed with

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globes or something. But um,
I just wanted to throw in though that

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I um. I went, and
I know I'm a glutton for punishment,

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but I went. I watched more
of that podcast episode I was able to

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find on YouTube. I wanted to, you know, I want to give

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him a fair shake. I don't
want to I don't want to just you

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know, go off of what Rollingstone
dot Com thought was important. But um,

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yeah, there was nothing more to
There's nothing additional on there, although

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um interestingly enough, one of her
guests flat Earth Dave. He was saying

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during their interview time that he came
to Christianity because of his flat earth belief,

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and then Matt Long, the other
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oh, well, I came to
flat earth belief because of my Christianity.

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And I thought, boy, that
was just a perfect circle of reasoning there,

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or maybe it was a sphere of
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If they think the Earth is flat, then maybe they think that kind

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of reasoning is linear. I don't
know, but it was. It was

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funny. But one last thing I
wanted to throw in here, and that

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was I don't know if you any
of you noticed this, but there was

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a wonderful self burn in the article, and they were quoting Dave Weiss from

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the podcast. He said, the
people that defend the globe don't know anything

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about the globe. If they knew
a tenth of what Matt and I know

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about the globe, they would be
flat earthers. So what he was saying

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is that if there's people that know
one tenth of what he knows, those

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are the people that are flat earthers, right, So ignorance leads to flat

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earth belief that according to flat Earth
Dave, that's the key. You know.

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I was watching a YouTuber who actually
who who was commenting on this specifically,

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and he mentioned that specific quote from
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of what they knew about the flat
Earth, they would be flat earthers.

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And he was like, so one
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Yeah, point yeah, yeah,
yeah, but go ahead, Kelly.

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I did do a deep dive into
it, and it turns out that

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globes are the first form of AI
and they are out for global domination right

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there in the name you in the
name there, you go take that atheist.

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Yeah, man, She's well,
we might as well just go ahead

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and move on because obviously we don't
know what the hell we're talking about.

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So we put on a good show
doing it. We do, especially like

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you know, if everybody could,
if everybody wanted to get into the dance,

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we will be selling the song on
our merch store globes, globe,

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globes, globes, globes, everywhere. Old to Candice Taylor, No,

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go one on the second, second
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segment two, let's do that and
tail that's you. Oh yeah, and

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whenever it means here, this is
no thing about It is never fun when

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I'm here, and I'm sorry.
Maybe you have realized that I tend to

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talk about certain global mafia that protects
evil criminals. Here I have a representation

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of their evil overlord that so many
people believe to be out safe and earth

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disgusting actious that this person has committed
made me very, very very angry.

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But I'm not going to talk about
how angry I am. I'm just going

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to talk about this article that I
have two thanks up news dot com plish

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guys. Check this on their on
the description there you can find all the

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information. Once again, it's me, I guess the freaking Catholic Church or

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the crimes, but it's okay.
Are we surprised that they are terrible,

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that they are awful? Of course
not, of course not. Are we

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surprised that the Catholic Church is an
awful mafia that is trying to protect better

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even nowadays, maybe and always surprised
when they clearly when we realize that the

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clergy light about the amount of abused
little people that have suffered under their personnel.

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Of course, we are not surprisable
that because that is what this mafia

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always does, and it's are surprising, it's enraging, it's awful. But

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guys, what can respect from institutions? Not? And it's not only the

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Catholic Church. Please go and check
the abused administation coverage insurance policy that even

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evangelical churches can hire nowadays. Actually, churches are nowadays the biggest danger to

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children's bodies in our society, and
that's why they are hiring these policies for

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whenever their priests decide that they are
going to use their power and have used

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this the most defenseless people that sadly
are forced to go and to go to

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their institutions, to go under their
buildings and to be well brainwashed by these

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awful people. So I'm going to
make me very general. I'm sure that

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Kelly, you want to talk about
the numbers, and I think it's good

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if you tell us, because if
I start talking about the numbers, it's

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going to be it's going to get
ugly. So Kelly, please, well,

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I will mention that there were two
thousand children that were not reported in

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the past that this story broke about. Um. I it's hard for me

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to talk about things like this because
of my past. I was physically abused

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as a child. I raised two
kids, so when I hear about kids

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getting hurt like this, it really
really bothers me. I one of the

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things that really bothers me about this
too, is that all these priests when

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they got caught, you know,
you know, they all went to the

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confessional. They had to say a
fuel hear Hail Mary's and now they're going

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to go party up and having with
Jeffrey Dahmer. I find this really really

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disgusting. And it's not only the
church that was at fault here, but

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the state of Illinois. Where was
the state at? Where were these investigations?

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At were the people that should have
been protecting these kids because they weren't

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there were the investigators? Did they
just do a slack job because their Catholics?

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What was going on here? I'm
really really pissed off that something didn't

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get done sooner or that these two
thousand kids fell through the cracks when there

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was an investigation. It's it's horrible, It's completely horrible and should never ever

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ever have happened. Um Scott,
you want to take it? Sure?

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Sure, yeah, I mean we
know that. You know, child abuse

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is horrible, and child sexual abuse
can have significant impacts on you know,

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their study after study after study of
long term emotional and sexual and even sometimes

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even physical disabilities, and it can
affect and and it's basically if you if

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you abuse a child in that way, it's very much like destroying a world.

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Right. It's like was at Oppenheimer
that said, I am become death,

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the destroyer of worlds. And so
when you destroy a child's world,

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a child's future, it's it's tragic, it's tragic. And what makes it

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worse is that these religious leaders are
set up as to be moral leaders.

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And when we say moral leaders,
we not only mean that they are leaders

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that are expected to be moral,
but that they are that they're supposed to

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be leading. They're guiding their flock
into how to be moral? How and

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you know, these are people that
are representing supposedly the you know, the

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ultimate creator of the universe, the
ultimate guide to morality, and you know

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clearly that's not that's not working out. I don't know, Tayo, what's

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your take on that's on that?
Well, what Kelly said, it's totally

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true. I mean they started with
one hundred victims. Nowadays the two thousand.

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There were one thousand, nine hundred
victims that nobody knew anything about this

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Authornity here um I Authornity didn't wrote, I think it's quammi role. Oh

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thank you, Raoul. He had
to make huge investigations. He had to

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read over one hundred thousand pages and
talk about several like six hundred in confidential

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interactions that were not supposed to to
rebroke to light and after all that huge

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amount of effort, many many of
the clerics who committed these awful crimes,

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they are not going to be judge
because time has passed. It has a

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name that I had written in here, but I don't remember the name of

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it. Yeah, that's thank you, Cynthia arling. Um. They are

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not going to be judged because of
that and some others. They were protected

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by this awful mafia that I always
talk about for so long that they are

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they are dead. They passed away, so they were never judged and they

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never had to face justice. They
never had to face a legal system.

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And it's extremely awful, terrible,
disgusting in enraging that those people made so

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much damage, they harmed there so
much and nothing happened. It makes me

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extremely sad on it is awful and
and you know, this is kind of

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crazy because this is like right in
my backyard, especially like I am a

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former alumni of a Catholic school.
Um so a lot of these um um

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So you're saying there's hope, there's
hope for students in those schools, right,

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Well, you know, if you
didn't get abused. I mean,

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but the thing about it is destroyer
of world, destroyer of world. Well

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that's what the Catholic Church is.
We we we can go down the list

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of you know, not just like
protecting uh you know, pedophile or or

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or even like sexual abuser. We
we can go through other atrocities specifically from

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the Catholic Church that has happened UM
for a very very long time. I

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just um was even curious to know
how far back do UM sexual abuse allegations

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actually go back to for the Catholic
Church in UM. In one of my

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UM dives, I found out that
they have records of abuse going back to

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sixteen twenty nine. This is before
the United States was even a nation.

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I think that we I think that
the Jamestown was only maybe what in UM

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in in service from maybe like ten
years after the first Colum, after the

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first allegation came out. UM.
But when I when I found this this

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is actually from uh don't say from
them, the abuse of the Catholic Church,

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from the Malie Law Firm p l
LC and UM. Basically this was

407
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:52.119
for a Spanish priest named Joseph Kalon
Klanza. I'm sorry, kla San.

408
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:59.759
Yes, that is correct, klassan
and Um. He was actually at a

409
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:06.359
teacher that was teaching boys, poor
boys, and the accusations were made by

410
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:14.279
fellow priests with concerns over in pure
friendships with schoolboy and the accusations regarding father

411
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:21.519
Stephano Cherubini was the one to be
investigated. However, Kyla Sons aimed to

412
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.920
cover up what he called this great
shame so that it would not it was

413
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.799
not brought to the intention of his
superiors. In fact, instead dealing with

414
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:37.000
the accused priest, he was actually
promoted. Setting the precedent. The Catholic

415
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:44.880
Church continues to follow this practice of
accusations, discovery, promotion and or shuffling

416
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:51.839
of known sexual abusers. Even had
a name that translates to mean promotion for

417
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:59.240
a voidice, and that's what this
was when they were talking specifically about these

418
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.359
these children that I believe that the
records were going back to the nineteen fifties

419
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.279
all the way to twenty nineteen,
twenty nineteen. So you have over one

420
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:15.880
hundred thousand documents from the nineteen fifties
all the way to twenty nineteen, and

421
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:21.920
we know that accusations, claims,
and a lot of them substantiate we're happening

422
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:27.839
before twenty nineteen, the Catholic Church
was well aware of it was the Francis

423
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.759
Hope. Francis called himself doing an
apology tour during around this time period,

424
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.759
still was doing one last year because
we covered it, and earlier this year

425
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.200
when he was in Canada and other
places to apologize for the atrocities that the

426
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:46.480
church was doing with leaders in the
church. But it was still happening.

427
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:52.039
And I don't understand how, because
Okay, let me slow down for a

428
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.400
moments, I can get my thoughts
together. But one of the things that

429
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:02.920
really baffles me is that the church
and of itself was able to be autonomous,

430
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:09.079
like semi autonomous as a diocese and
an organization in order for them not

431
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:17.840
to get any type of outside law
enforcement from other governments that they were they

432
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:23.559
were established. I mean, like, I can't imagine that Illinois did not

433
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:28.800
know going back this time period,
or somebody that was elected they did not

434
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.719
know about some of these allegations that
I was going back to the nineteen fifties,

435
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:37.239
I can't. I can't imagine that
not happening, or if they were

436
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:39.440
in office and they knew about it. They were going to say, well,

437
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:43.360
you know, it's the Catholic Church. They need to be protective because

438
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.480
of a church. And I need
that to stop, really, I mean,

439
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:52.480
and especially since even though we have
all these documents and substantiated claims and

440
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:58.719
movies and the Washington Post and all
these different stories that have come out about

441
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:04.039
this Time magazine and even other organizations
that have been complicit in doing the same

442
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.360
thing, they are still we are
still because I'm going to put us in

443
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.639
this too, because we're citizens,
and we're citizens not only at the United

444
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.239
States, but citizens of the world, and we see what's going on,

445
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:20.280
and we have failed children because we
didn't have enough people speaking out to governments

446
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.760
to say that they need to be
protected. And damned them being a church,

447
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:28.760
damn them for hearing any type of
edicts coming from God directly, because

448
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:34.320
the Pope supposedly has a direct line, like he's some freaking telephone company to

449
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:39.079
God that you know him and any
of the people that's under him, from

450
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:45.559
cardinals to bishops to priests on down, should have protection and I and it

451
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.159
really pains me. And and thank
you Kelly for you know sharing, I

452
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.719
know that you've you've you know touched
on this before, and I know this

453
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.320
is very difficult to discuss, but
you know, we thank you for your

454
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:59.280
input and insight on this, and
and I'm gonna go ahead and give it

455
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:00.760
give it to you. A matter
of fact, you can go ahead and

456
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.679
wrap us up, because I don't
know how much time that we can stay

457
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.639
on this and not get even more
and more upstact. Cynthia, I know

458
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.719
Scott wanted to say something quick,
so I'll just try to say something really

459
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:15.719
quick. And you were right.
It was a couple of things. You

460
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.559
were right about Illinois. Somebody should
have gone after these people more aggressively sooner.

461
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:25.960
And why are we not holding the
leaders of the church responsible for this

462
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.039
stuff? They're the ones who covered
this up. It was the Catholic Church

463
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:35.039
that abuse these children, not just
these individual priests, right. It was

464
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.400
the church that allowed it to happen. It was the church that covered it

465
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:42.599
up. It was the church to
protect protected the perpetrators. It was the

466
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.199
church that moved them around so they
can repeat the offenses. So yeah,

467
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:51.719
it was the Catholic Church that abuse
these kids. And just a quick quick

468
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.679
note. According to Media Matters from
May twenty third to May thirtieth, Fox

469
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.559
News devoted two hours, twelve minutes, and thirty two seconds to the backlash

470
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:07.760
against Target for supporting the LGPTQ community, and a whole twenty two seconds to

471
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:13.000
this story twenty two seconds for the
whole week. Go ahead, Scott,

472
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.119
Well, you know, continuing on
with what you were just talking about.

473
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:21.280
If we think mister Rogers, everyone
seeing mister Rogers neighborhood. Maybe I'm giving

474
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.239
away my age here, but I
watched mister Rogers all the time, and

475
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:28.960
he famously said that we should look
for the helpers after a tragedy. And

476
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.360
so it was intended to give people
hope for the future, showing us that

477
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:36.719
even when things are down, we
can rely on each other, to help

478
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:38.760
each other, to protect each other. But let's not forget that that was

479
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:44.960
intended for children. He was mister
Rogers dealt with children. He with his

480
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.679
show was for children. Everything that
he did on his show and every well

481
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.800
really everything that he did in his
life was all about helping and protecting children.

482
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.920
And so what's happening here is when
we look for the helpers, here,

483
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.320
the helpers are not there. And
here we're talking, you know,

484
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.679
I'm pointing the finger here we're talking
about you Catholics. You're abandoning your children,

485
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.079
right, They're relying on you to
give them hope. They're looking for

486
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.559
the helpers and you're not being there. You know, where the fuck are

487
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.119
you? Is what I want to
know? Where? What's where is the

488
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:19.039
uproar? Like Kelly, you were
just saying, the media coverage alone is

489
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.159
just it's it's ridiculous, and so
I don't know, I don't know.

490
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.840
Let's let's wrap this up. Let's
talk about something else, Yeah quickly before

491
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.559
we finished. Sorry, yeah,
go ahead, stuff like what you said's

492
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:34.159
code. It always for me,
it's always traumatic or awful to seeing parents

493
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.159
who keep being Catholic, people who
keep giving money to the church. Um,

494
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.840
what it's wrong with them? Are
they not? All those laws suites

495
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.960
need money? Right? The lawyers
ain't going to pay themselves? Yeah?

496
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.199
Yeah. How can you love your
religion more than safety for your children?

497
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.559
That that's something I would never understand
that It breaks furiating, Yeah, totally,

498
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.480
Yeah, that's what we would have
to do a whole show just on

499
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.159
that. How do you love your
children more than? How do you love

500
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.559
your religion more than your children?
I mean, there's there's plenty of stories

501
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:08.000
that actually amplify that. Um,
you know, I knew a few stories

502
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:15.039
about like parents who would not get
their children vaccinated, or even parents who

503
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.840
would not allow their children to be
treated by doctors when they got sick because

504
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.239
you know, they believed that God
was going to heal them and then they

505
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:29.320
died. There's even a few stories
about parents actually going to jail and being

506
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:35.639
a charge for abuse because of them
following whatever type of belief system that they

507
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.239
were following. But they felt that
they were in the right when it came

508
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:44.360
to how they dealt with their children, but unfortunately it was their faith that

509
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:50.400
outweighed their love for their kids.
And I have no problem saying that,

510
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.559
because if you love your children,
like really really love them, you would

511
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:58.960
do anything that you can do within
your power to make sure that they're safe

512
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.599
take care of. And that's discussed. That's the most disgusting thing about religion

513
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.559
in my view. I'm a parent
too, and I can't imagine anybody holding

514
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:13.679
something some ideologies, some theology,
some philosophy above their own children's Yeah,

515
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.960
I agree, I totally agree.
I mean, like I'm a parent adjacent

516
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.920
and all I can think about it
is like, gee, how what can

517
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:22.920
I do to take care of you
know, this little one that's in front

518
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.360
of me, that's in my charge
and right, and I think that the

519
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.679
best thing that I can do is
to keep him away from religion. Was

520
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:35.079
one of the best things that I
can do. But with that, I

521
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.719
know that, guys, that was
really heavy. So everyone just like,

522
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.719
take a pause, Let's take a
cleansing breath in through the nose, out

523
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.440
through the mouth, let us reset, and we're going to move off because

524
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:50.280
that was that was definite very So
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and speaking of good times, I'm
so excited to introduce this next segment called

546
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:57.760
what the Florida Boom Oh God nailed
nailed it to the landing, you know,

547
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:02.440
stuck it like orda but actualality.
Um this is not really my segment

548
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.079
to introduce, Like I'm introducing the
interestitial, but not really the segment.

549
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.719
Kelly, this is you. So
if we can get Kelly dig on read,

550
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:22.719
that would be great. Keep on
mutine, mutin, don't stop.

551
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:30.800
No, you're still muted. I
am so sorry. I'm so sorry.

552
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.440
You're good. I got a little
upset on that last story that was the

553
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:38.159
Lord was hardening your microphone. Yeah. Um this is a story that comes

554
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:43.159
to us from Boying Boying. It
was written by Carlos Sinclair and it's about

555
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.320
our proverbial Florida man. This one's
name is Joe Penovich and he owns the

556
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.480
state's Grills, Seafood Deck, and
Tiki bar chain. And he told Fox

557
00:43:52.599 --> 00:44:00.920
News that he has never experienced a
greater hardship than bud light making can with

558
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:05.960
a transwoman's picture on it and giving
it to her. Now, these weren't

559
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:08.199
marketed. There was only a few
of them made. I'm pretty sure they

560
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:13.480
were all given to her, to
Dylan mulvaney. But this guy's a little

561
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.440
upset about it. Anyway, I
don't quite understand why. Um, I

562
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.039
honestly, I think he's being going
a little bit crazy. Over this one

563
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:29.400
and not he's undermining his argument.
Is what I think by the stupidity,

564
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.079
Scott, you want to take it
from here, I'm I'm still a little

565
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:34.920
upset from the left. Sure,
sure, that's no problem, no problem,

566
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.519
you take a breath there. M
Yeah, I gotta call bullshit on

567
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.880
this guy. I gotta call bullshit
because here here's the com core of his

568
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.039
complaint from from the video clip.
You know, Annheuser Bush, they held

569
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:50.599
a social knife over all of our
heads here and they dropped it very irresponsibly.

570
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.639
Social knife. It threw us into
turmoil, pearl clutching by standing on

571
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:58.239
our biblical faith. It puts us
at odds with other people that didn't take

572
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.760
that stance, and that brought us
into hell on Earth. So my only

573
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:07.239
conclusion is that he has no idea
what hardship is. I mean, this

574
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.960
is a privileged man, indeed,
And I you know, and I find

575
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:15.400
it hard to believe too that people
are watching this right. This is a

576
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.960
major media outlet that they spent time
of their of their day, of their

577
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.800
programming day to have, Hey,
let's have the guy talk about hell on

578
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:30.000
Earth. And plus he was voluntarily
willing to say this in front of people,

579
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.800
and so have people know that he
was saying it. It's just it's

580
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:37.480
weird. I did find a longer
clip of the interview, and because because

581
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.119
I wanted to figure out what exactly
happened to him, And he never says

582
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:44.880
that. He never says, and
he didn't say that, you know,

583
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.119
people were being abusive. He didn't
even say that people were calling him transphobe.

584
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.960
Um, you know, I don't
know. If you don't like people

585
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.639
calling you a transpobe, here's my
my free advice, no additional charge here.

586
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:58.840
If you don't want people to call
you a transphobe, don't be a

587
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:02.519
transphobe Simpson. It's easy enough to
me. I don't know, really,

588
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.920
that was really profound. Ye,
free charge. No national charge comes with

589
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:13.280
your membership to the ACA. You
know, poor guy, probably he had.

590
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.840
Yeah, he had to leave this
hell on earth because obviously, acknowledging

591
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.519
that people exist, that trans people
are real, must be as painful as

592
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:29.599
being persecuted your whole life because you
look different, because you are understanding who

593
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:34.840
you are, it must be terrible, as terrible as being hated, insulted

594
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.719
by your family, by your whole
community, just because you're not straight it

595
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.480
must be something like that. I
mean, what else could hell on earth?

596
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:45.239
Very right? I mean it's not
like oh no, oh, actually

597
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.800
I think that I got kind of
a translation of what he meant. I

598
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.559
have my notes in here. Yeah, I think that I try to rephrase

599
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.079
what he said. It's something like, no, it cannot discriminate freely.

600
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:59.280
And I've been forced to admit that
not how to rock sexual people excise.

601
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.199
I cannot give this grimy night thing
like this. Why are they doing this

602
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:06.280
to me? It was something they
like. I think you nailed it.

603
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.320
I think you nailed it there,
nailed it, nailed it right on the

604
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.679
right right. Well as you say, I have a duck in here,

605
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:23.880
Kelly, can you explain the ducks
please? That's the bigotree duck. Bigo

606
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:28.639
tree. Duck calls out all bigger
tree as soon as it heard he.

607
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:30.800
You know, he was just saying, this is just one more big at

608
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.400
hiding behind his religion too that you
know, he keeps telling me this and

609
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:39.679
it is ridiculous. I I yes, I just said it was ridiculous.

610
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.480
Yes, yes, yes, I
don't know how he can expect any duck

611
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:46.880
to take him seriously. I already
said that I did say, people,

612
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.800
you're right, But if he were, like, if he actually treated his

613
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.800
listener to people listening to him as
if they understood middle school math, he

614
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.559
would probably get more respect from people, and they might take him a little

615
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.480
more seriously. You know. I
mean, I think the duck is a

616
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:06.280
good point there. It is such
an obviously bad argument that there's no way

617
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.440
to take him seriously. Is there
really the guy who appears to be about

618
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:14.840
my age? Surely he has had
friends or family die, and it's he

619
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:20.159
diminishing those people's death by saying this
beer can has affected him worse in his

620
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.800
life. That's just crazy, you
know, guys, I just have to

621
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.159
say it, as the only non
white person on this panel to be a

622
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:34.719
sistant or a white man in America
who owns the state's grill seafood deck in

623
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:42.960
Tiquy partrain chain rather to call beer
can endorse by a transgender influencer hell on

624
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.679
Earth. Wow, must be nice. I know not this life, I

625
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:52.960
know not any of this to say
that that specifically is hell on Earth?

626
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:58.880
That right there? For me to
be assistant or white man in America with

627
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.760
several business not just one. He
remember, he got a whole chain of

628
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:07.400
um so he making some scrilla,
as as my as my people in the

629
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:13.519
around these communities will say he making
some scrilla, and he is calling the

630
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:20.320
few cans that Dylan mulviny had on
her table when she chimed in during the

631
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:25.320
Super Bowl. Because we actually covered
this story previously that specifically was hell on

632
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:30.800
Earth. The privilege of it all
must be nice. God damn it,

633
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.719
I tell you, you know,
so Joe old Joe, Joe, you

634
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.360
know, I don't know if Joe
knows, you know, like Boe knows,

635
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.800
but I don't know Joe knows that
the reason why Dylan was picked to

636
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:52.039
be a spokesperson was because Dylan has
over ten million followers on social and and

637
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:58.960
since you when you have that type
of platform and you want to actually make

638
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:06.239
your product marketed to a wider audience, you will choose people or you know,

639
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.960
maybe knock or tap somebody on the
shoulder who has that type of platform

640
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:15.119
that may not necessarily be hetero normative
in the United States or in the world

641
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.320
or whatever you know it, you
know, through something like that, just

642
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.639
saying like I'm pretty sure that if
I was an avid beer drinker and I'm

643
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:28.000
not, but I had over ten
million, twelve million whatever followers that you

644
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.079
know, just really like me singing
step in the right direction. I'm pretty

645
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.920
sure somebody is going to tap,
tap tap on my shoulder and say,

646
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.519
could you please endorse my product?
I mean, I don't even have that

647
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.719
many followers on Instagram, and I
got folk DM and me about their little,

648
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:44.559
you know, funky businesses all the
time, saying can you just post

649
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:45.800
this stuff on your Instagram? I'm
like, no, who are you?

650
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:52.880
Hell on Earth? I know,
I mean yes, obviously there was demons

651
00:50:53.360 --> 00:51:00.960
and five and pitchforks coming out of
the Earth's cross and you know, and

652
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:06.719
just making everybody go ah, like
you know, like the segment interstitial.

653
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:10.360
So that's the reason why we did
that, because obviously this happened. So

654
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:17.039
again, take that atheist, Take
that atheist, boom boom, Scott.

655
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.079
You do ever have something else that
you would I do. I do have

656
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:23.239
something else, Believe it or not. Um, this is really kind of

657
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:29.280
a one note story. I mean, this guy says something ridiculous on TV

658
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:30.719
and makes a fool of himself kind
of a thing. But I want,

659
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:35.559
I was curious as to why would
somebody do that Why would somebody do that?

660
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:38.159
My first thought was virtue signaling.
Right, he's standing up for the

661
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:44.559
Lord and he's, uh, he's
weathering the storm of persecution that's raining down

662
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.000
on him like hell fire on the
standard. I don't know what however that

663
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:52.400
goes. But but then I thought, but isn't that really anti Christian?

664
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.800
Right? Didn't Jesus talk about that
kind of stuff about virtue signaling? Isn't

665
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:00.440
isn't virtue signaling supposed to be a
bad thing? I mean, if we

666
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.239
look at the parable of the Pharisee
and the tax collector, right, the

667
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.800
Pharisee stands up there and he's like
praying in front of people, acting all

668
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.840
pious and being you know, visible. And then but the tax collector,

669
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:14.199
who was supposed to be you know, the shifty guy. You know,

670
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:15.800
he's in it. He's the greedy, in it for the money. He's

671
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:20.320
not really pious, but he's praying
off in the corner. And then Jesus

672
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.360
says, and allegedly in the story, yeah, for all those who exalt

673
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:28.280
themselves will be humbled, and those
who humble themselves will be exalted. And

674
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.639
so, you know, getting up
on national TV and taking the hit for

675
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:34.239
Jesus, I don't know. That
didn't hold a lot of water. So

676
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:38.000
I was curious, what maybe from
business perspective, maybe it's a business decision.

677
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:40.639
And so I actually found I actually
found Sorry, what was that,

678
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.239
Cynthia, or I was just going
to say that it could be something else

679
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.800
that you said that it is easier. Let's hear it. It is easier

680
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.159
for a camel to go through an
eye of a needle than for a rich

681
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:58.559
man to get into heaven. So
because obviously, like when what I mentioned

682
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:02.320
previously, Joe, Joe, no
scrilla, Okay, you know, so

683
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:06.960
maybe this virtual signaling could be,
hey, trying to get it in with

684
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:09.599
the big guy. Make sure you
got them, you know, mom manson

685
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:15.760
in heaven ready for me. I
don't know that story was be a camel,

686
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.400
that was the more of it.
Just be a camel. Yeah,

687
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.400
and you could be trying to purposely
make himself go bankrupt to get into heaven

688
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.760
too, right, that could be
that could be maybe Cynthia was onto something

689
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.719
with the whole camel and the needle
thing. But but I did I did

690
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:36.559
want to look up what actual,
what actual business or related organizations would say,

691
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:39.360
and I found two opposing articles,
and I just want to do one

692
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.639
quote from each of them. So
this first one was from the Harvard Business

693
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:47.440
Review, and they think there can
be situations where companies should take a stance

694
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:52.039
on social issue. Okay, and
so so this man is representing his company,

695
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.880
he's representing his business, and so
maybe it was a business decision.

696
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.920
The Harvard Business Review thinks that it
could happen. Here's what they say,

697
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.519
and I'm paraphrasing here. They ask
three questions, does it a lot?

698
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:07.480
Does the issue align with your company's
strategy? Can you meaningfully influence the issue?

699
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:13.119
And will your constituencies agree with speaking
out? So if the answers to

700
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:16.199
those three questions nudge you towards speaking
out, then it's a good decision to

701
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:20.719
do that. So whether I don't
know, maybe he thought that people would

702
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.119
rally behind him, and well,
obviously at least some of them are,

703
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:27.960
at least FoxBusiness dot com is doing
that, and so maybe he thought it

704
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.480
would be a good business strategy because
maybe he reads the Harvard Business Review.

705
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:36.000
On the flip side of the coin, The Hill dot Com, in an

706
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.360
opinion piece said companies can do more
social good by not taking a stance on

707
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:44.599
divisive issues. Instead, they should
foster a healthy dialogue on issues among their

708
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:49.239
employees. And potentially there are other
constituents such as consumer Given that many people

709
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:53.400
generally trust the companies they work for
more than they trust other institutions, businesses

710
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:59.039
are in a unique position to encourage
balance debates on contentious issues in a way

711
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.320
that both sides can trust. So
on one hand, they're saying, um,

712
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:05.719
it would make good business, Uh, you know, a good business

713
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:07.639
decision to do this kind of thing, because then it's going to rally your

714
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:13.079
your supporters and it's gonna create you
know, it's going to create unity within

715
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:15.719
your within your employee base, and
you can move forward from there. But

716
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.760
on the other side, you know, there are other experts that are saying,

717
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.280
well, and and to me all
fairness, to me, the second

718
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:27.840
one seems like it's the more enlightened
perspective here. And what they're saying is

719
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.880
that if you do that kind of
thing, then you are gonna you're gonna

720
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:35.719
unify your employee base, but you're
also gonna take away diversity. And um,

721
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:39.400
and I think we can all agree
here that having diversity ensures that many

722
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:45.119
different perspectives can be represented that real
solutions come. And I love this quote

723
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.320
from Thomas h or um Hume.
It was for some reason his first name

724
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:52.760
was Blanking, but from hum he
says, um, truth springs from argument

725
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:57.960
among friends, and so so if
we have a good diverse base of opinions,

726
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.800
then we can we can get that
going. I'm during the fumble here,

727
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:02.719
so I passed off to the TAO
before I start blue. Well,

728
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:06.880
I did want to just make a
quick comment and then tell y'all would love

729
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:13.119
you to wrap us up. Maybe
he was actually signaling to his to his

730
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:21.159
customers that only transphobic people go to
the State's grills, seafood deck and tiki

731
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.920
bar. Jay to just transphob to
people. So if they transphobic, you

732
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:31.119
good gone eat your seafood at the
tiki bar and have a drink on one,

733
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:36.840
yes, one of the well biggotry
duck, because obviously Biggert you duck

734
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:38.239
got all the squirrel up. You
know, of course, all of it

735
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:45.599
every time he's on screen. There's
another point two cents point two cents your

736
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:51.000
place get drunk while you wear your
cross that represents Jesus and your red hat

737
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:54.239
and stuff like that. I you
know what. People like this guy,

738
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:59.559
Um, they not only they make
me sick, but I see them as

739
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:04.199
victims of a system that has failed
them. They are the perfect example of

740
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:08.880
why misinformation and ignorance are so harmful. They are the perfect example of somebody

741
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:15.519
who is so privileged that acknowledging that
non strict people are real is causing him

742
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.639
big distress. Dude, do you
want to live in a house without running

743
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:22.480
water and electricity? Let's see what
on Earth is for you after that?

744
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:27.519
And I guess this is this,
This is the reason why I just fight

745
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.960
misinformation and in rance in every single
show that I can. And I think

746
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:36.400
that we have to make us make
our society a better place. We have

747
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:40.400
to educate people so we have less
mister oh yeah, realizing that other people

748
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:44.320
are really scalum earth. We need
less people like him in the planet.

749
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:46.480
We need more education, We need
less Joe. Because Joe don't know.

750
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:52.159
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zero point five stars, and it
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768
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not arthurs, but authors references to
murder, corruption, bestiality, and

769
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:29.159
incests, endorses misogyny, racism,
savory genocide, infanticide, infanticide and violence,

770
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and consider it's by proponents as the
source of morality, even though most

771
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:42.480
have never read the whole book.
As a rich britch one would say Christian's

772
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:49.719
regional fucking Bible. I wished I
had a really good Liverpool accit for that.

773
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.599
But you know, just you know, pretend like I'm a beat or

774
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:57.079
something else. Well, let's go
ahead and get to last segment. And

775
00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.519
I'm sorry, guys, I didn't
read that whole Bible being you know,

776
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:06.719
properly. But we're behind you here. Yeah, I mean about to say

777
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:12.840
nobody reads the Bible correct. Okay, I'm I'm in the phrase with everybody

778
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:16.719
else. Um, But we're gonna
go ahead and just get to our last

779
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:23.320
segment, guys. And this is
a step in the right direction. Step

780
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:29.760
in the right direction. Yeah,
step in the right direction with step step

781
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:36.880
stepping in the right direction. Yeah. And this story is entitled thank you.

782
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:43.679
I'd rather die than call her a
hill. Christian teacher band from Teaching

783
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:49.880
for miss gendering trans people says he
feels no remorse as he slams lack of

784
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:53.960
training over transgender issues in schools.
This is from the Daily Mail and also

785
01:00:54.119 --> 01:01:00.880
comes up with a companion article band
Christian teacher who misgenders pupil says schools should

786
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:09.119
not affirm trans pronouns and plots appeal
Leading Britain's Conversation by Will Taylor. So

787
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:15.639
basically we have a story coming from
the Daily Mail and the companion story from

788
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:20.599
the Leading Britain Conversation or the LBC. And no I'm not talking about a

789
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:30.039
Snoop Dogg song. It's just like
Compton. The story is about a Christian

790
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:37.440
UK teacher named Joshua Sutcliff and that
miss gendered a student in his class.

791
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:43.719
According to the LBC, Sutcliff has
admitted he did not use their preferred pronouns

792
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:49.400
when he was told a math class
well done girl, but said that was

793
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:53.440
not intentional and then apologized straight away. But in the Daily Mail he said

794
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:59.559
to the Telegraph, well, I'm
sorry, but that's the Christian position.

795
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:04.480
I wasn't going to say I'm going
to along with this. I'd rather die,

796
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:09.519
to be honest. Obviously that's quite
extreme, but that's how I feel.

797
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:14.199
So this lets me know that the
supposed apology was a hunkle bullshit.

798
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:16.480
So who wants to go ahead and
take it first, Kelly, I think

799
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:21.760
that you have some thoughts from this
particulars. I do. So we got

800
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:25.480
one biggot going from helen or to
another biggot doing thoughts of self annihilation,

801
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:32.480
right, nihilism all the way,
and it's just one more undermining my argument

802
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:37.440
with stupidity to me? And does
he really think and this guy as a

803
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:40.519
teacher, remember that, does he
really think that we believe he would rather

804
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:45.800
die than you someone's pronoun that he
disagrees with hyperbo. I think we should

805
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:49.159
put him to the test. I
don't think we should kill him, but

806
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.280
I'd like to see I'd like to
see it the threat be put there,

807
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:54.639
and then see what judgment he makes
at that point, because I don't think

808
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:59.639
he'd preferred that over the using a
pronoun. I think he's being very very

809
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:01.760
dis And do you want to check
to see if he has the faith of

810
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:08.159
Abraham? Yes, right, exactly, that's exactly. No, not you

811
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:15.719
again, ESBD. They do have
bigots over in England. No, I'm

812
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:20.920
not going to pay pay to take
a cruise over there. You're afraid of

813
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:25.039
flicking out of here? You're not
afraid of flying. Let me finish the

814
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:35.760
show entitled Oh yeah, annoy me. Yeah, he's calling, and he's

815
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:40.559
calling for training and guidance for interaction
with trance students, or so he says

816
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:45.800
in one breath, and then in
the next breath he says, he's immutable

817
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:49.559
on his ideas of gender anyway,
So any amount of training isn't going to

818
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:52.480
make this man change his mind or
his behavior. I don't understand why he

819
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:58.039
thinks that calling for training is going
to make a difference. What do you

820
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:03.119
think, Tao? Oh? Well, yeah, actually, really, I

821
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:08.440
actually agree with you. I think
that he was being totally dishonest. And

822
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:14.079
I want you to mention the Bible
again because it's so funny how they how

823
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.639
Christians seem to think seemed to take
their Bible as if it was a fake,

824
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:20.800
because they always say, oh,
yeah, we're superior because we follow

825
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:25.159
the ten commandments, do not lie. And then we have all this type

826
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:30.159
of Christians saying, oh no,
I'm totally being discriminated. Why sir,

827
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:34.320
why are you being discriminated because they
won't let me bully this kid? Oh

828
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:39.039
no, no, no, I'm
not bullying. It's just that they never

829
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:43.079
told me what I should do.
And then and that's why I preferred to

830
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:46.639
die before accepting that this child is
us a hero. I think it was

831
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:51.000
a here, So I prefer to
die before calling this child a he.

832
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:55.760
And what'st of all, I'm sure
that this guy is going to try to,

833
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:58.920
you know, play the victim card. Oh no, I'm being persecuted

834
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.199
by my I believes, instead of
accepting, Oh yeah, it's a freaking

835
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:06.679
adult who should know better, who's
working with children, who's actually pulling a

836
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:12.719
child? Disgusting type discusting diaphons.
I agree with with the bigotry dog that

837
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:16.119
Kelly hiding there, I wouldn't mind
as well. So yeah, well,

838
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.800
before I say anything, full disclosure
here, I'm a teacher at a public

839
01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:25.119
college and a union member, so
I recognize that I may be biased in

840
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:30.119
favor of my fellow teacher here.
No, No, that's okay, I'm

841
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:34.599
about to say, but I gotta
callege. I gotta check myself right,

842
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:38.320
and I gotta check myself before I
get into it here. So, having

843
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:43.119
said that, I wanted to compare
this situation with the situation we were talking

844
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:46.719
about earlier with the Catholic church in
UH in Chicago. Right, So in

845
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:50.079
that previous section at the end,
I was talking about mister Rogers and we're

846
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:55.960
looking for where's the helpers? Right, And we were all angered greatly that

847
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:59.360
the adults would just stand around and
look the other way while these horrible things

848
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:02.000
are happening. Right, the people
in charge of caring for these vulnerable,

849
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:06.119
these other vulnerable human beings, we're
dropping the ball big time. And so

850
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:10.920
in that case, the response was
way too little, way too late,

851
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:14.119
and an underreaction. Now let's compare
that to what we're looking at here.

852
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.679
So we have the British government,
the school district or whatever was taking action

853
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:20.840
here. So in this case we
appear to have a different response. It's

854
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:24.159
important that we keep in mind that
we don't have all the facts here,

855
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:27.280
so we want to make sure but
based off of the facts that we've seen,

856
01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:30.480
it was an appropriate response. It
was I think the response to the

857
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:35.159
school was direct and thoughtful, and
appropriate and measured, and most importantly,

858
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:40.119
it was enacted with the best interest
of the children in mind. They said

859
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:45.440
that multiple times throughout the article that
they were that they were trying to give

860
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.639
a measured response, give an appropriate
response, and one that protected the children

861
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:53.719
first. So Catholic Church please pay
attention. This is how you do it.

862
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:56.559
This is how you do it,
right man. I was so about

863
01:06:56.599 --> 01:07:00.960
to start singing, but I just
a piggyback off of what you said,

864
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:08.039
Scott at an actuality, the thirty
three year old teacher at the Churwell School

865
01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:13.800
and Oxford failed to treat a pupil
with dignity and respect. So the Teacher

866
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:18.400
Regulation Authority, that is their ruling
body that I guess that's just an equivalent

867
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:25.199
of a board of an education in
that particular area found in a case considered

868
01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:30.079
the first of its kind. It
also ruled that he did not protect their

869
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:36.719
well being and he did not use
their pronoun and the body added was more

870
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:44.360
probable than not that he referred to
the pupil using female pronouns on other occasions

871
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:48.280
during his tenure at the school between
two thousand and fifteen and two thousand and

872
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:53.400
eighteen. And then it goes on
to say that mister Sutcliffe was also found

873
01:07:53.480 --> 01:08:00.360
to have committed misconduct for expressing his
opposition to gay marriage after a pupil asked

874
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:05.840
him about it and did not consider
the possible impact of a statement that being

875
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:12.679
gay was wrong. So you know, he basically engaged in his typical apologetics.

876
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:17.920
According to fundamentalist Christian worldview, that
asked about the t r a's finding,

877
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:24.640
and he was and he actually made
remarks about being opposed to sexual homosexuality.

878
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.640
He actually said that I had a
gay friend. You know, it's

879
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:29.680
kind of like up there, you
know, like you know I had a

880
01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:32.039
gay friend. I got that black
friend, right, you know, yeah,

881
01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:34.479
I had a gay friend too.
Yeah. I guess what I had

882
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:39.720
black friend, a gay friend,
and they black gay friend. I got

883
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:43.680
several black gay friends, black trans
friends. You know, I have a

884
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:48.880
bigger friend, right, Well,
you gotta what you got. But but

885
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:51.159
one of the things that he said, see, like first he's like,

886
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:54.760
well you know that gay friend.
I had checked this out. Guys.

887
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:59.680
He said, um, my gay
friend left the gay lifestyle and decided to

888
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:04.680
of a Christian lifestyle. And the
students found out about bet and I don't

889
01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:10.600
regret sharing this information. So not
only are you mis gendering people, you're

890
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:15.840
not using their pronouns correctly. You
are not you are you are not actually

891
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:19.920
being that helper that Scott talked about. When you're gay student came to and

892
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:25.439
asked you, like an actual question
about gay marriage, then you had the

893
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:30.039
nerve to push us. I need
to cross myself real quick. We call

894
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.720
that a pattern of a pattern of
behavior. Yes you, but you're but

895
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:38.800
he's he's pushing. Also conversion therapy, right, oh yeah, well that's

896
01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:43.680
right. But the crazy thing about
it, and this is this is the

897
01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:49.840
scary part about you actually being a
teacher of children and not knowing the statistics

898
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:56.359
when it comes to conversion therapy actually
being more harmful than helpful to people who

899
01:09:56.439 --> 01:10:00.520
actually go through it. There's tons, tons of studies on that. That's

900
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:04.119
because faith is more important than facts. See faith over faith over facts.

901
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:08.560
I see, that's what we're doing. I see, that's exactly what they're

902
01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:11.279
doing. But you know, but
one of the things that I will say

903
01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:15.119
specifically is to step in the right
direction, is that at least you have

904
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:24.479
an educational oversight board the tra specifically
that recognize the harm that this teacher was

905
01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:29.840
involved in and made his butt band
so that he cannot teach in the UK

906
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:31.359
again. Now, mister Cucliffe,
I'm about to tell you right now,

907
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.680
don't bring your ass over here,
don't come over across the pond, don't

908
01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:38.159
don't do that. Stay your ass
where you at, And it might be

909
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:44.439
welcome in Florida. I was in
Alabama and he did a job as a

910
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:46.760
head teacher. But I just want
to slip in here real quick here,

911
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:49.840
Cynthia, you were just talking about
how the you know, the that they

912
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:54.560
were taking action, right, and
so the the tra right this teacher what

913
01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:59.279
was it, the teacher the teaching
regulation of teaching regulars. Yeah, so

914
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:02.079
they did this knowing that there was
going to be pushed back, knowing that

915
01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:05.640
there was going to be a bad
press, knowing that there that this was

916
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:09.560
going to happen. So I think
that makes it all the more admirable.

917
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:12.359
Yeah, that's true. And even
if you do come to Florida, mister

918
01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:15.239
Sutcliffe, I'm about to tell um, uh, the Santists don't don't get

919
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:17.479
that man, No damn job,
don't don't you do it. We're gonna

920
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:20.479
come down and find you. Put
Helen on the job. Then we'll get

921
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:24.920
Helen Green. Now, we'll get
Helen there. We'll put her on it.

922
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:29.119
The Santists wouldn't welcome him to Florida
because he'd be an immigrant, right

923
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:32.239
this is but hold on, hold
on, he will be the right kind

924
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:36.560
of immigrant, you know, you
know, I mean that's that's a whole

925
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:42.560
another show too. But you know, mainly and we have precedence in history.

926
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:45.319
If you're the right kind of immigrant
United States, they got no problem

927
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.399
with you. Okay, we go
ahead and close us out, so we

928
01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:51.319
can go ahead and close out the
show. I will close us out,

929
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:57.199
I thankfully, while we still have
to contend with people like Florida Man and

930
01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.439
mister immutable. Here, we are
making a out a headway against the sheer

931
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:04.640
bigotry left in the world. And
it makes me proud that, first off,

932
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:09.680
that tra stood up to this man
and did what they were supposed to

933
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:13.600
do. And I'm really proud that
I belong to a group of people that

934
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:18.279
really cares, supports, stands up
and speaks out for marginalized people as much

935
01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:21.239
as the people around me do,
and the people here on this panel too.

936
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:27.159
We should all all of us around
the world stand up support these groups,

937
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:30.359
because in the end, atheists are
a marginalized group too, and by

938
01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:34.680
lending our support to others causes,
we gained their support as well. I'd

939
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:41.159
rather walk through the darkness watching someone's
back while someone watches mine, rather than

940
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:44.720
walk alone. You don't need to
be super to be a hero. That

941
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:46.880
was beautiful, Kelly, and I
almost started singing again, but I'm not

942
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:51.000
gonna do that. I'm just gonna
I'm just gonna do my final announcement.

943
01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:54.960
You say that like you're not trying
to get us to beg you to sing,

944
01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:59.479
Cynthia, please please sing. No, it's not that we know we

945
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:03.880
no, no, no no.
I'm you know. As soon as you

946
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:09.039
started talking like your last point,
especially about not walking alone, and I

947
01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:13.560
just took me back to my my
A choir days. You all know that

948
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:16.239
song. But I'm but but we
wanted to stay monetized, so I will

949
01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:20.960
not see That's what I'm saying.
Less, I can actually make up a

950
01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:25.319
song on the spot about not walking
alone, which I'm not that creative.

951
01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:28.119
So I'm just gonna go ahead and
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952
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:33.399
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957
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:58.159
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01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:03.840
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962
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:20.159
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964
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:31.840
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966
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:46.479
RG and everybody you have a charge
from me. I want everyone to say

967
01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:51.840
one word about how they feel about
today's show, starting with Scott Dickey go

968
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:58.119
no pressure, right, no pressure, one word, one word cathartic,

969
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:02.960
cathartic, okay, tail, one
word afraid, hopeful, and my word

970
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:10.279
would be thanks for listening. Actually
that's just like, you know, more

971
01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:15.960
than one word, but I wasn't
one. Yeah, oh good, I

972
01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:17.640
understand, but you know, I
mean like, but that was my charge

973
01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:21.479
because I'm running this runaway was runaway, Troy. And therefore I say one

974
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:24.920
word from the panel, so you
gotta give me one word. But even

975
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:29.439
though that one may feel cathartic and
one may feel free, there is hope

976
01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:32.520
and I'm leaning on that. And
on that note, everyone, thank you

977
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:38.720
for watching and or listening to us, and we will see you next time.

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