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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
to the Mad Match. Fuck the Mad

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Max retrospective. I got nothing clever
to open those up, because who the

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fuck knows. But I am the
night Rider Travis Snow, and I'm joined

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by I'm Totecatcher, krikl Patzer,
the Interceptor Taylor Field. Yes, and

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we're doing this. And so we're
doing this because obviously, yes, firos

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a Mad Max. What is it? It's not storry what do they call

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it again, Mat Saga? Yeah, some stupid shit like that, But

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that's coming out and we'll be seeing
and we're viewing that. But also this

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is one that like there's other retros
we probably could have done, but it's

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a thing where I'm not trying to
be like pessimistic or bad outlook like George

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Miller is old, and like there's
a chance that we may never get like

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who knows what happens after Firorosa,
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get another Mad Max. It's kind
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could be the last one of this
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like, look, let's do Mad
Max because this is coming up, could

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lead up and it's a nice shorter
retro two four movies. That's what we're

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the ones we'll be doing after is
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So let's get into this. So
this is mad Max God I forgot to

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pull up when it originally came out, Thank you very much. So I'm

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gonna lead off with a trivia fact
just to kind of set up that this

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was at one point the most profitable
like kind of independent film until A Blair

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Witch came out. So it's not
like the most profitable of all time.

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That's like based on its budget,
and it was a very shoe string budget.

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This one was and there's a couple
of notes of it. It's classical

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when we talk about evil Dead.
It's very like gorilla filmmaking. And let

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me find out the full and budget. But yeah, George Miller did this

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and the budget was three hundred to
four hundred thousand dollars. Film made one

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hundred million dollars, so it's pretty
impressive. So that kind of started the

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legacy of it. But Krika pats
are One, if this wasn't your first

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time, tell us about that experience. And then two, just tell us

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about your experience overall Mad Max because
it is like a I think it's a

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classic franchise, but it's also not
like one of the biggest franchise because there's

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only there's only five gonna be six
or no, yeah, there's only five

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films. There's only four right now, so it's not and they're all kind

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of spaced out in a weird time. So just your overall on this first

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film, and then also just the
genre. Yeah, this is this is

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the first time I've seen this original
Mad Max. I watched well, I

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guess twenty twenty four now, but
in twenty twenty three, I watched Fury

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Road for the first time, so
that was like really recently that I actually

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jumped into this franchise. And I
mean, yeah, this isn't the episode

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that I talked about Fury Road.
This is about the series. We'll get

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there, like I will say,
I especially like I guess knowing that it

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was just such a big like phenomenon
at that time, like really really low

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budget compared to what it made,
and even just scenes like I'm pretty shocked

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that they're able to pull some of
that stuff off with the budget that they

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had, because there is like a
lot of practical, high octane action with

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like the vehicles crashing and whatnot.
Mel Gibson is like extremely young in this

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and there's just a lot of scenes
I was not expecting, and a lot

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of this movie I just I was
not expecting that it was going to be

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going the way that it did,
like like a minor spoil like the last

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like thirty minutes of this film.
I thought it was gonna be the entire

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movie, Like I thought that's what
this whole movie was gonna be. And

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I think for that reason, I
don't know why I had like expectations coming

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into it, because I didn't like. All I knew was Mel Gibson and

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the leather jacket in a car with
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that image in my mind, that's
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as, and I feel like for
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really that. But yeah, well
and even Fury wrote which you have seen

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much like I was talking without Taya
in the car last night to think about

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this film and where you get it's
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similarities, but this is nothing like
Fury Road at no. You know,

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it's like they're taking that that spray
paint thing, you know when they made

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the Fear Road one. Just get
fired up. So yeah, no long

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witted way of saying, I feel
like I was a little bit let down

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by this one just because I had
those expectations coming into it. I really

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did love all the practical action with
the cars crashing, Like I was just

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amazed with with some of the things
that I was seeing just seeing down the

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budget too. Yeah, it's really
impressive, that's the thing. And you

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know, as we're making movies now, like I just feel like I've totally

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grown to appreciate things like that,
whether I'm watching like the original Evil Dead,

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just what they're able to piece together
with the budgets that they had.

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But how do they do that and
how do they do it safely? You

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know, it's still a hundred times
more than our budgets. Yeah, yeah,

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trust me, We're lucky to just
get into the thousand mark. You

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know, if I had a three
hundred fifty thousand dollars budget, I'd be

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totally happy. Oh yeah, man, I'd be doing a lot of weapons.

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Yeah, his own vehicle. Tell
me the sequel, we get to

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Treadochrome three, it'll be like Mad
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like that. Yeah. So,
I mean, like the crazy, the

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crazy characters they had in this.
I guess that is kind of what felt

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a lot closer to what The Furiy
Road was, just because everyone in Furiy

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Roads is just wacky, and there
is some very kooky characters in here that

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we're scary for what they were used
for. And there's there's some really like

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dumb decisions. I think that,
like some of our main characters make throughout

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the film, that just kind of
bugged me, And I think I was

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just kind of picking it apart in
like a negative sense, as opposed to

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if I just would have watched it
back in the day and just enjoyed it

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for whatever the story or the action
was, and then maybe had that nostalgia

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attachment to it, because like this
even has like an eighty nine percent of

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rot Tomatoes, and that just kind
of shocks me. I'm curious if that's

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like a legit Rotten Tomatoes score or
if you know, Rotten Tomatoes wasn't around

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nineteen seventy nine. So is that
just like a nostalgia thing that people bringing

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their own thoughts into that. I'm
curious, like how you guys think,

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at least for I think they do
collect some reviews in the past. When

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Run to meos start adding older films, I think they did try to collect

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reviews of the past, yeah,
and put them in there. And I

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could see if the when did you
say it was nineteen eighty nine? Seventy

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nine? Fuck, I could see
seventy nine. This is getting like positive

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reviews and stuff. But when te
goes, I'm actually gonna pull it up

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and be curious because and there's probably
definite Yeah, there's some So are you

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insinuating like I don't get your phone
you insinuating that you had been on the

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raw in side, then you would
have given this the ma Frost, just

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not in eighty nine, like this
would be like this would be like one

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of these, you know, like
I came in between thumbs up and mid

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thumb like like, I guess the
last thing I'll say before I passed along

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is and I've already said it too, is just like the action I was

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very shocked with comparing it to the
budget, like what they're able to pull

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off with just the car crashes and
stuff they're like just seeing them run into

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bikers like that was just crazy to
see on screen and obviously like no CGI,

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so they did it practically, and
I was very impressed by that stuff,

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and I think I was just wanting
a lot more of that. And

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maybe that's just me like pulling in
like the Fury Road like memories from it,

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just like well they did in Fury
Road, but like also massive budget

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compared to what this would have been, and just a more modern, modern

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film. So I think I was
just wanting a lot more of that,

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And some of the quieter moments maybe
in the middle act were just kind of

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losing me a little bit. I
was wanting some more that action, and

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by the time that we get to
the third act and like leading up to

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the big climactic moment when he's Mad
Max and kicking Ass and taking out the

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bikers, I just wanted like most
of the movie being that. So like

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again, like it's just kind of
my own expectations. I think I brought

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into it, which you never really
want to do. But I think you're

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like the sequels, I think more, yeah, more set up for that,

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right, And there's only sixty five
reviews by the way I'm running me,

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and some of them are like two
thousand and seven, So I think

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it's harder with that one because nowadays, like when you look at the movies,

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there's like four hundred and five hundred
raised, so it's like it's like

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eighty nine but very small pool of
people. So and you saying that,

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like, I'll probably like the sequels
a lot more. I think I've just

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seen a lot of maybe images or
like yes, like things pulled from just

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the Mad Max kick and Ass thing. So I was just a little bit

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surprised that that wasn't the whole movie
for this original But yeah, I think

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that's all I gotta say. For
now, mister Field. So, yeah,

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the first time I saw this movie
would have been with my dad a

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long, long time ago. And
when I remembered, yeah yeah, right

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in the theater, you didn't know
what I remembered. At least what I

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thought I remembered was that society was
still functioning, and like in the movie,

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like governments were like, okay,
yeah, we're shut down, and

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that's when like things went instantly crazy
and it just got really really bad,

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really really fast. That's what I
thought I had remembered. But it's it's

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neat going back and watching it now
and understand it, and no, this

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is totally different. This is just
the tail end of governments are crumbling but

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still trying to keep a grasp on
things. I don't think nuclear war is

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broken out, you know, but
it's just the tensions are high and people,

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like what we see in this movie, you're starting to understand that they

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can get away with doing bad things, and so things are pretty bad.

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I like seeing the practical effects of
a lot of stuff, just theyuh,

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the car explosions and just that kind
of stuff. The chases are pretty interesting

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and pretty cool, and I do
think, like you mentioned already, Trevi's

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just that jump between this start and
then where we get to with Tom Hardy's

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character is absolutely crazy. But it's
so cool that that is in the same

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universe essentially, and I'm excited to
kind of go through this whole journey and

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kind of get to learn more about
him and going through his exile and just

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see how things kind of transition for
this character because it's such a dynamic change

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up of scenery for him. But
all in all, there are some very

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funny moments that I think some of
the storytelling was really really bad explaining certain

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things, especially trying to get us
to know our main character. But yeah,

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I definitely revisit again and would watch
it in the future. So I

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think that the world is just it's
interesting, and I think that they captured

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a very interesting part of Well you
can't hear my daughter screaming in the back.

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Oh yeah, okay, she loved
mad Max. Yeah they're on Thunderdome

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right now, They're on Thunderdome.
Yeah. I like the concept of this

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movie portraying and not jumping to the
apocalypse right away, but just showing this

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state because I feel like this is
a very real state where governments have their

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hands on everything, and if you
lose that control to a larger degree like

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they have in Mad Max, then
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people change, and some people are
kind of good, but other people are

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just They turn into these crazy biker
gangs where they all park their bikes and

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the leader gets off and his goons
are like combing his hair and like dancing

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in the street together. Waltz saying
like, I don't feel like that's too

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far fetched by any means. I
think that that's a very realistic scenario because

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people are fucked. So so yeah, there's pre geek first life part of

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a gang. Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's interesting because, like

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I said, it's from where we
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I think I've seen these films all,

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like, okay, i've seen them
now I'm talking about like kind of overall.

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I'd seen them all, but I
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on Spike TV, and I've seen
a bit of it here and there,

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Like I don't think I had fully
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and I'd watched them again, and
I had that same kind of feeling the

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first time where I was like,
eh, I don't know, this is

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a bad movie. But it's not
like it is one of those way this

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feels dated. This feels very dated. There's some things there. It's loud

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at times, there's a lot of
audio to meet issues at times, even

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with characters speaking, where it's like, okay, they've clearly re record these

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lines, and just just like a
lot of a lot of things happen,

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but a lot of things don't happen
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it's a weird movie. And then
so I've only seen it I'll say three

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times, because I probably once I
was younger. Second watch them now this

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one, and I do enjoy it
more. But I think it's because I

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just was prepped for what was happening, because it is just like a revenge

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tale, but it's I don't know, it's like a shortened one because it's

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almost like the first act the end. The third act of this movie is

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like the first act of John Wick. And then the movie just ends.

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Though you know it's like, oh, you're it's like, you know,

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you said, Kirkle, what you're
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and it's odd that, like I
would love to see this not knowing there

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was a franchise. When you watch, Okay, I guess this is like

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it's like, you know, it's
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Like it's just the setup and now
you're gonna get like two, three,

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and four of him doing his like
mad Max stuff, right, And it's

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just odd. Though at the time
you watch, it's like a soul it's

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like, oh, this this was
it. It was just this guy had

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this life quit Samon got killed,
he killed these people and that's it.

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That like that that's the story,
you know. So but at the same

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time I understand as well too,
when you're working with that budget. Maybe

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that's the idea of why it is
just such just kind of like it's almost

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like a short film but extended,
where lots of short films are like that,

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where it's like it's a slice of
life and the issue is solved right

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away, and that's what this is, right. It's not like the he

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has to go on this massive month
long journey to take out all these guys.

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He just finds them on the road
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Like, and it's pretty it's pretty
easy. It's almost like I should have

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done this in the first place,
you know, and you could have avoid

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a lot of things. I get
it, he's a cop, but yeah,

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over like like like the same thing. It's more probably sequels like mel

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Gibson's like fine in this, but
he has like like it's a pretty it's

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not a minor character. There's just
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silent kind of guy, right and
the villains. I go back and forth

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to like I do like for this
world, but then I wouldn't be lying

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if at times I just found him
like annoying to watch, but like the

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stunt stuff is really great, Like
that's what you said, Like when you

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watch it now when we've done some
stuff, it's like and especially I only

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have some stuff for trivia, but
go read like some of these shots that

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they had to what they had to
do to pull off. This wasn't am

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using their crane. This was like
a guy's on the back of a bike

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and sphearing for his life while he
has a camera and he's just like hoping,

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like I have a note of it. I'll probably just bring it up

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right here that yeah, for one
shot. Cinematographer A David Agabee. I

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think it's how you say his name
held the camera while he was a pastor

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on motorcycle and they were going one
hundred and ten miles per hour, where

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Claude scene said, I knew we
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that's what it's like. There's stuff
where you can tell. And I think

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all the cars stuff for for what
they have the budget all looks great,

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like the stunts everything, Like when
you think about this being three hundred thousand,

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it's like, that's some crisp stuff. And that's why too, because

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a lot of stuff they fucking were
out there risk it. They're doing stuff

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that I will say, like I'm
not doing that as filmmaker, and Jeronna

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Crown, there is some stuff.
There's definitely some stunts we did where we're

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higher up, but like I ain't
give me on a vehicle where it's like

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this could be with three kids.
No, yeah, exactly not nowadays,

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Like I'm not. That's what happened. So it's a bold film, it's

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a ballsy film, and they definitely
they go for and that's where I agree

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with Emily two. We were talking
about this and we watched it and she's

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like, yeah, you can watch
them without me. It's like it is

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not oddly but like there's it's fucking
dark. It's a depressing ass movie too,

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like it goes for the juggler,
Like there's jokes of things like you

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don't kill and people. If you
haven't seen the movie, I guess go

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watch it come back, but it
seventy nine. It's like we're going to

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talk about spoils just freezy, but
it's just like what happened to his wife?

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They kill the baby. There's rape
in this movie. It's a fucking

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dark, dark world where I feel
like Mad Max Fear Road. When you

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get to the new one, there's
darkness too, but that's like it doesn't

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have those elements. They're way more. I feel like just insinuated we're here.

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There's just like people run around with
private like their genitals are bloody.

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It's just like it's it's not like
a play. It's like I don't know

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when I will rewatch this again.
Like when me and Emily watched it last

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year, it was just because we
wanted to watch them all again in preparation

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for this, and I don't maybe
we weren't planning on doing the retro at

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that point, but it's one of
these work. I'm sure I was watches

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again at some point, but there's
not a need where like Fear Road,

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that's we were like, oh,
I'm gonna put on. That to me

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is like a top fifty movie.
This it's like you gotta be in a

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mood, and it's hard for me
ever be in this dark fucking mood to

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want to watch this week, especially
because I don't consider it like great.

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I consider it like a good movie. I think, yeah, so it's

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it's a tough watch though it's fucking
no long at times. I feel like

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the difference too, between this and
Fury Road is like Fear Road, it

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just feels like higher than life,
like like it feels like a fantastic where

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like there is I guess dark stuff
happened in it, but it just feels

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like a like a sci fi adventure
almost as opposed to like it's yeah,

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this feeling like very close to like
even at the start, it's like a

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few years from now, it's,
oh god, this is like if COVID

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was still bad and we're four years
in, Like that's what it'd be like,

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right, because like the streets are
empty. There's only a few people

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around in this movie. And that's
why too. Uh, Like I'll throw

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out against some trivia where man,
they chose to make it in like a

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poke poke, a PoCA poke Poka
Pokemon. Yeah, this is make a

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Pokemon movie like this post Bok lived
in the Pokemon are just fucking like crazy

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that I'll be in for that.
But m it's it's funny when we get

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to Fury Road and stuff like that. I feel like too, like this,

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I guarantee this was like a Zack
Snyder like when you look at the

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BBS stuff that he wanted to do, like he wanted to get to that,

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but uh, he made it post
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and they weren't many people around,
and when the areas that were like just

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like they found the film with sets
that he never actually at first like rooted

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that way and out as a plan. He just did that. He's like,

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well, there's not many people around, so we should say it's like

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close to post apocalyptic just to like
cover for what's going on in here.

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And it's funny how it kind of
worked out in the long run because with

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Fury Road and everything. But I
think he just wrote, this is like

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a cop thing. And that's the
elements too that are really interesting, Like

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I love I loved their actual outfits, Like it's weird to think, like,

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Okay, this is what I a
cop would be dressing like, but

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it's like who knows, Like look
at all the waves we've gone through,

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like fashion or whatnot. So I
love like the big shoulder pieces in the

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leather and these cars that are cop
cars but they're like like they're all upper

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yeah. Like there's like again for
the budget, like I love that it

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wasn't the original plan and they're like, Okay, let's switch this and let's

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do post apocalyptic. And obviously it
wasn't like the day off they got the

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Colts eight months before changed it,
but it does. I I like it.

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It's like we saw poor things last
night, right, And with that,

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it's like there's elements of it that
feel very much in the past,

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and then there's elements that are very
futuristic and you're like where is this time,

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Like where does it take place?
It's all over the map, right,

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and that's where this is. It's
like, sure, there's stuff that

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feels old, but then it also
feels like there is stuff where it's like

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the look or just a certain way
things are done. It does stand out

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where sometimes people say, oh,
this in the future is supposed apocalypt You'

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like, eh, it just feels
like you guys are just it's our world.

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And then it's like it went to
shit, right. I like that

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this is something evolved, something has
happened, and so I appreciate that.

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Where does the imagery stands out for
me so percent? And like me just

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I guess watching for Your Road and
thinking about Mad Macuse, I just just

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like assumed all these movies were very
far from like the apocalyptic moment like years

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after and like it's very few and
far between. Maybe even this might even

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be the first one that I've seen
like like right after or like like not

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really like a post of pocket.
It's beginning stage, but yeah, like

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a transition period. So that surprised
me, and in hindsight, like it

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is kind of interesting seeing that because
it is an origin to the character but

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also an origin to where the world's
kind of going. Absolutely and this is

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like the last remnants of those like
there's like an ice cream shop that's just

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still working like in this movie,
like there's multiple things that it just it

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doesn't feel like a post of apocalyptic
world at all, and said, it

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feels like those first few months of
COVID where some stuff's open, some stuff's

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not open. You have like a
limit of people, you can go out,

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you can be masked and stuff.
And that's what I mean, Like

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it's it'll be interesting when we watch
them all. I feel like this one

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works better now that there is other
ones. But I would have loved to

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see this not knowing their sequels as
well too, because it's like it doesn't

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work like almost like this feels like
a prequel movie now days where we would

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have got almost like fuck plan me
apes, like that's where we're gonna do

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that retro. But the new trilogy
that starts with the like, oh,

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this is kind of right before things
go to shit and the monkeys take over,

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right and this is like okay,
it's like Ward war Oh my god,

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today Road Warrior comes out and like, oh, people really like this

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post apocalyptic car movie. Let's make
a prequel about how did Max get here

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and the world get here? But
it it wasn't, you know, And

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it's and that's where I feel like
it's kind of like a short film,

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because another thing I compared to it
is like Saw or Saw. They made

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a short film Saw and then they
that grew and then that was kind of

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like a mini origin. So it's
it's a fascinating movie that that's still trucking

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along and we're getting a new one
in twenty twenty four, big budget,

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big stars and stuff. It's just
it's it's kind of wild that that's so

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what that's eight So come on like
in a couple of years, like fifty

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year franchise. That's crazy. So
yeah, so there you go. We

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that's it. We're done, noing. But that was my over So my

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overall is like I like it.
I think there's aspects of it that's good.

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There's aspects that they're not. It's
it's one I definitely appreciate more,

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but I don't turn back to it. But I kind of can see that,

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especially in seventy nine, like of
course there's some dark stuff coming out

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there. I could see how this
maybe would have taken a grasp on people

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between how dark it is and just
like the look of certain things, and

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like Kurkin talk about too, it's
just em that poster, like that's a

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badass poster that gets you in the
door and stuff and one hundred million back

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in seventy nine, like I'll do
the Yeah, I'll do the classic.

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Yeah, I'll do the inflation,
but uh, billion dollar budget? What

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do you guys think about I'll start
with you. What do you think about

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Max as a character? He says
cop. He's not actually a mute,

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but he gets called that many times. He's a quiet individual, but abviously

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he goes through quite a bit of
things in this movie. What do you

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think about Max as your lead?
Did you care about you care? Did

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I do his overall already? Or
did I just fully black out? Okay,

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Kirtland just fucking blacked He blacked out
the originals everything gonna do that?

405
00:23:56,079 --> 00:24:00,960
Sorry, sorry, carry on.
I like it was a character. I

406
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,240
love the idea of him just being
a cop, dealing with like a cop

407
00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:08,599
and like post apocalyptic like transitioning period
just sounds like the worst, like imaginable.

408
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,160
It's like it's like pre post Oh
my gosh, this is hard all

409
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,599
it's Sunday morning. Yeah, I
feel like that? Or what Kirkland like

410
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:21,000
his of your other copper nurse like
doctor, Those to me have to be

411
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:23,720
like the three like and even though
I wasn't in there, I still was

412
00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:26,240
like working at the Interior Health.
I was in that, Hey, we

413
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,519
don't know what COVID is. You
still got to go to work though,

414
00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:32,160
and that's why we did get paid
compensated for a layer. But it's like,

415
00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:34,680
fuck, you just have to go
because you're like on those first line

416
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,160
defenses. And it's like, like
I always think about that for Shay and

417
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,359
myself, it's like, man,
what if this was just some fucking thing

418
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,319
where it just would have been like
zombies And it's just like and hobviously people

419
00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:45,759
did get sick and die. It's
like we had we had to go to

420
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:48,799
work. Everyone else is like,
oh, sit at home. We just

421
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:49,799
had to go out there because like, well, you guys work with hospitals,

422
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,720
so good luck. So yeah,
I agreeed to tear a cop.

423
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,960
Those those type of jobs would be
terrible in this situation. First responders.

424
00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:04,240
Yeah, yeah, first responders.
Yeah, I in retrospect now realizing that

425
00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:07,279
because we talked about it earlier,
like the Tom Hardy one is definitely like

426
00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:11,839
in the vein of the Same universe, Like it's not like a it's not

427
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,160
like a full on remake like going
back to like this origin story, and

428
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,440
that's what probably detract me from enjoying
it. But I still love that Furry

429
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:22,240
Road movie. I would have loved
to have seen like the Tom Hardy version

430
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,880
of him being a cop and just
starting out and all that jazz. But

431
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,640
I think to fake Taylor get one
of those programs and Mel Gibson and Fury

432
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,559
Road. I think someone's done a
fake trailer of that with a DFA.

433
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:40,640
I guarantee you it's happened probably,
But him in this movie, I enjoyed

434
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,680
it. I really did. You're
right, like he's not giving a lot

435
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,839
of development. The biggest one of
the biggest things that I thought was super

436
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:51,319
wild was just trying to like understand
and learn more about his character and like,

437
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,960
okay, like you see, he's
got a wife that he loves,

438
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,680
and he's got his home and whatnot. That's great. But then all of

439
00:25:56,759 --> 00:26:00,119
a sudden, like the middle of
the movie, they just pop this kid

440
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,200
into the picture because like the I
don't know if they mentioned it earlier and

441
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,880
I overlooked it, but like when
he's getting the tire shop done and the

442
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,400
window comes down there's a baby,
I'm like, holy fuck, he's got

443
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,480
a kid. You do see the
kid earlier than that, I will see

444
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:17,559
I completely went over my head.
But they like that first of all to

445
00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:21,440
get the answer inflation. So the
movie would have made four hundred and twenty

446
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,359
two million dollars, So that's that's
pretty good, like for today's day.

447
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,160
Agent especially on that budget too,
a studio would fucking kill because let's see

448
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:33,119
what a three hundred thousand is for
a high ball. So yeah, so

449
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,400
a studio would kill fist. The
budget would have been one point two million

450
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,599
and made four hundred and twenty million. Studios would fucking die for that right

451
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,319
now. So that's why you got
all these movies. But that kid,

452
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,400
it's weird because don't you remember the
Saxophone Part two, one of the first

453
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:49,480
when the first times they're at home, it's so random. I always forget

454
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,319
about it. It's like mad Max
is like like he's like chilling his bed,

455
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,400
and all of a sudden, his
wife just going it's landa like just

456
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,799
going fucking on this sack. Like
he's in the bed, she's sacking.

457
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,240
The kid is like over there playing
like it's before he leaves to work,

458
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:07,519
so you might have missed it.
He like kisses the kid goodbye, or

459
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:11,319
like rubs the kid's head or something
like that. So yeah, but in

460
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,839
the sack because that saxophone is fucking
loud. This movie like I've ever seen

461
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,440
in theaters. I remember Sbub's last
year saw it, and I saw his

462
00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:19,079
letterbox review. I don't know if
he saw in theaters, but just like,

463
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,359
I could not imagine this movie in
theaters because that sax would have fucking

464
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,279
just like my ears would bleed because
she's going hard. Never refer back to

465
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,920
but that kid. I feel like
he comes in and out of this movie,

466
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,759
like where the fuck was he when
Mad Max and his wife were just

467
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:37,200
fucking that field, you know,
like they weren't at the destination yet where

468
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,160
they met the older lady and the
guy who was like that's very outdated,

469
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,519
the mentally challenged person that like,
I'm so glad we're over the day and

470
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,039
age where just an actor that sticks
his tongue out. It's like, oh,

471
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:49,759
you know he has down syndromes,
like when you look at that stuff

472
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:52,880
and they're like, fuck, this
just does not age well. But it's

473
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,400
like before they get there, they
just make multiple detours where the kids just

474
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,640
asleep. I guess and they're fucking
There's a one moment where they show her

475
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,599
driving away from the bikers. The
kid is in no car. See,

476
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,440
he's just in the trunk like Woody
and Toy story at one like whoa like

477
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,200
like like I get like the baby
to me is at in here just so

478
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,039
they can kill a baby and get
the dramatic stuff at the end because it's

479
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:17,480
all over the mat when the baby's
in and out of this movie. They

480
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:21,079
kept taking it to daycare because that's
one of the things that's still running in

481
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,200
this Yeah, of course take care. Yeah that's that's one. Yeah,

482
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:29,640
fuck Kirkland. Your thoughts on mister
Max. I know it is mister Max.

483
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,720
Yeah, I can't. I always
fuck with the last name. So

484
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:36,680
I'm gonna try to like Max trachow
Ski, Skier whatever you say. So

485
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:41,119
it's just Max on IMDb. So
I'm just gonna ren is Max Max.

486
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:45,200
He has a last name because they
say it. It's like t r U

487
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:52,319
d ex Max was Awski didn't father
last night. Yeah, this is another

488
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,759
one that because I just knew,
like I guess, Like the thing with

489
00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:02,200
mel Gibson is like I don't really
have have like a lot of core like

490
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:07,279
performances from him that like past your
era, I think so or like because

491
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,039
did you want Lethal Weapon? Was
that any see? Those? Those went

492
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:12,480
over my head, like I never
saw those? What woman want? That

493
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:15,160
was a big one for him.
I think I saw that, but like

494
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,279
not really, And I think that's
the com one, right, Yeah.

495
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,799
I think he's a bunch of action
movies where it's like Gleam Like I feel

496
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,680
like he had a Liam Neeson run
where he had five years of doing a

497
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,079
bunch of just like taking type movies. Yeah, it's like the Eraser or

498
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:32,839
some shit like that, like and
then I'm trying to think what else I

499
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,039
know? Break Yeah, that's the
other big one for that. And then

500
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,759
his directing stuff. He did Pasture
the Christ and he did Apocalypto. We

501
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:45,519
talked about that a couple of weeks
ago. He did uh fact saw Ridge.

502
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,000
So have you seen all those movies
he directed? I never saw Hack

503
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,519
Saw Ridge. He saw Passionate of
the Christ. I did, yeah,

504
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,640
when I was way too young probably
to watch it was Adu of course,

505
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,720
like the one movie she has so
SI might have just not been in like

506
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:02,400
that because it's like he it's like
late seventies early eighties, and that I

507
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,480
have a couple of black spots like
that too, like and same thing like

508
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,480
the Lethal Weapon movies that I've watched, like but I don't return. It's

509
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,599
it's like Ghostbusters, like it's not
a franchise that I'm like, fuck,

510
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,160
I'm in love with and now stuff
like yeah, you're pulling us up like

511
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,359
fat Man Day Home two like Dad
Home twos off of seemed but like I

512
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:21,119
don't watch a lot of stuff now
because like I don't care. I still

513
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:26,039
feel like he's like he did six
forgot. Oh yeah, okay, that's

514
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,119
fine, that's probably like the main
one. Yeah, but he's like a

515
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,039
let's just call it. He said
like a lot of racist stuf in the

516
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:33,519
past. So that kind of made
me like almost not want to go and

517
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:41,759
like delve into his filmography level he
was the main chicken and he got replaced

518
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,599
for the sequel like that, Yeah, but he got replaced and then but

519
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,359
I forgot he's in pokemonas it's like
the love interest guy. So but he

520
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,839
was at one point Matt, he
met mad Max. He wants people's like

521
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,680
sexiest man here. At one point
he was the top shit. He's got

522
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,160
it, like he's got the look, especially he's young, Like I could

523
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:06,960
definitely understand him being like that eighties
action star. But like, I think

524
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,359
it's because I just don't have really
attachment to like the titles. I've known

525
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,759
of the mel Gibson name for like
performances wise as well as his controversial stuff.

526
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,240
But like I think I was just
expecting a little bit more here.

527
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:21,160
You you're already kind of touch upon
it. Like Max in this movie is

528
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,920
just kind of silent, doesn't really
do a whole lot, even when he

529
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:26,720
is like at the end kicking ass. Like I can just I could probably

530
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,079
make a list, you know,
with time, not right on the spot

531
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,519
here, like ten ten actors that
could just like do so much more with

532
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:37,559
with the action sequences, whether it's
their their actual performance with holding a gun

533
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,319
or whatnot, or just their facial
reactions. Like he just kind of seems,

534
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:45,799
I don't know, might be too
harsh but dirty in like some of

535
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:51,480
those moments, like he's just not
very yeah, yeah for sure. And

536
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,079
I guess it's maybe the emotion.
I think, like when he loses his

537
00:31:53,119 --> 00:32:02,720
whole family, like it's just the
he hasn't moved in hours because I was

538
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,319
expecting more. Again when he thays
zoom out and he's just like he's just

539
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,559
zoned out. But again and again, that's some interesting when we talk about

540
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:12,599
the other ones, it kind of
works going forward because I think it just

541
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,920
makes him almost like a like a
terminator now, like it's just like,

542
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,559
yeah, he's just here to kill
and everything. But it's just weird again,

543
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,279
like all that progression is in the
very last twenty minutes of the movie

544
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,119
and then it's over. You know, it's not an overtime thing. And

545
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,640
even like I guess I kind of
like because his arc is he's a cop

546
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,880
trying to do good. He loses
his best friend, his friend gets fucking

547
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,599
charcoaled, and that makes him decide, Okay, I'm gonna be with my

548
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,400
family and we're not dumb. We
get the arc. But he never like

549
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:43,799
talks about that. He just like
I'm quitting, I'm done, Like he

550
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,400
never like they didn't even have a
scene where he's with his wife reflecting about

551
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,960
being a cop and about his partner. Like once I think when like with

552
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:54,319
his wife, he's talking like just
the little isms that his partner would do,

553
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:58,359
like just yeah, talking about that
he missed him. And sure there's

554
00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:02,039
one part too where he brought up
some stuff with his dad and like losing

555
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:05,880
his dad and he realized. But
it's just it's very I feel like it

556
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,279
all just kind of gets like one
line and it's like they did it,

557
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,920
but it just I guess it just
feels very I wish when he lost his

558
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,519
friend there was more time with just
Max maybe of him coming to that conclusion

559
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:17,359
but lost his friend and then he
comes to his boss who just has a

560
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,480
neck tie but he's naked. It's
very odd situations like I'm done, I'm

561
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:23,519
quitting. You'll never quit, like
I quit and he quits, and they're

562
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:27,759
just like they're a road tripping.
I don't know what they're doing for money,

563
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:30,839
but they're just like living life.
They're getting ice scream. It's just

564
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,079
but you know, it's it's it's
a weird. It's a weird character.

565
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,599
It is a weird character. And
I'm definitely excited to see how he evolves

566
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,000
moving forward to the next few movies. If he just gets madder and more

567
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:45,480
badass. I'm hoping so, because
uh yeah, I just felt like I

568
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:47,680
was part of me missing out on
some of that in this first movie.

569
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:52,319
So kind of underwhelmed across the board. I think for this one, like

570
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,799
the movie as well as the performance
of mad Max, and uh yeah he

571
00:33:55,839 --> 00:34:00,279
sure looks he sure looks young in
this film. Oh yeah, he's in

572
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:01,920
this one. And this is the
one that definitely one of the ones that

573
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:05,839
kind of started to put him on
the map obviously. So I will say

574
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,840
though, I was kind of shocked
that he had like the Aussie accent in

575
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,000
here, because yeah, I always
think that, like man, Americans just

576
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,159
cannot do Australian accents, and you
know, he doesn't sound like a natural

577
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:20,239
Australian, but like at least he
he didn't sound super fake at certain moments.

578
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:22,000
I had to work on a few
a few words too though, Right,

579
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,920
it's so stylogue, got I just
got to hit these five sentences of

580
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:31,760
Golden you know, yeah you're gonna
say something before Oh yeah, yeah you

581
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,840
can just go you don't know,
it's eight years. Yeah. It seems

582
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,440
so disheartening to just be in this
world and think like, yeah, I'm

583
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,920
gonna like raise a kid and don't
do it. Yeah. I've always thought,

584
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:46,159
like in The Walking Down when they
get pregnant, be like, what

585
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,360
are we doing? Here, well, like even yeah, it's it's it's

586
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,920
not mad Max level, it's not
walking dead level. But even like in

587
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,000
today's age when I go on like
Clona now and they're like there's news articles

588
00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:00,440
like, yeah, you know what
the next twenty years Western uh kind should

589
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,639
be prepping for a full on war, you know, industrial scale and everything

590
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,719
with us on Colowna now now,
yeah, you need just send me this

591
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,159
article that's on Colonna saying like in
twenty years, we're gonna be the mad

592
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,199
Max in twenty years, Like it
was just like not mad Max level,

593
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,039
but just war with like other countries
them like and it's sucks, like Western

594
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:22,880
Canada versus Eastern Canada or North versus
South perhaps South Canada. Yeah, fuck

595
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,159
those South Canada people. You know, I'll go to I'll go to Trudeau

596
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:30,599
says you gotta go to war South
Canada. I'm fucking well, that's how

597
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,880
the war. Yeah, I'm like, fuck, are taking you down?

598
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:37,519
I'm dropping. Well. Between this
and Appenheimer last year, it's like like

599
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,039
and that is like not to get
on this level. That is a scary

600
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,400
thing where we the world is actually
like only a couple of nukes away from

601
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,000
being like catastrophe, right, and
that is always a scary thing. But

602
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:52,960
at the same time, like I
feel like after nine to eleven there's probably

603
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,400
similar articles of like we're all fucks. So it's like I feel like this

604
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,960
happens every once in a while.
Probably it just sucks more because five,

605
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,000
I think, you know this morning
and this is number one, Civilians,

606
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:07,840
industry must prepare for it all at
war, NATAL official war like Monday morning

607
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,159
when they drop that, just like
get you ready to go to work.

608
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,320
Yeah, it's like eight am Monday
morning. Western we not take us off

609
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,440
to from a Western country should prepare
their societies for an all war with Russia

610
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,280
within the next twenty years, and
senior NATAL officials warn Adamal Rob Brower says

611
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:27,199
countries should be looking at their industrial
base to ensure that they can produce weapons

612
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:30,880
while considering how entire populations could be
mobilized to fight a war. But again,

613
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,440
it's just like it's still like a
worst case scenario article. It's a

614
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,960
prediction. Art Absolutely leaders change and
that could be like action coming up and

615
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:44,440
what But even then, I too, wow, subtle, subtle, go

616
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:49,920
vote go vote, yeah, don't
don't vote for Sue, you know,

617
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,280
he's like Kirklam's work people, But
no, I thinkau has I think he

618
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,719
has one more run them Unfortunately,
if you're going the other way, I

619
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,039
think, you know, no,
no, I I think that's one war.

620
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,320
I think got one more and then
likes one more term. I think

621
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,239
I think he's gonna because the voting
wasn't too like he won last time,

622
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,400
but it wasn't so overly where it's
like I think, because that's usually what

623
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,199
happens is they go that's what I'm
with Harper, right, Harper for years

624
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:15,239
when was like, oh, this
is the year, but it always go

625
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,079
like down another five and then another
five. Politics. I'm getting depressed already

626
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,519
anyways. But the point is like
even just stuff in general, like with

627
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,599
global warming and stuff, and that's
where you know all that. But yeah,

628
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,440
raising a kid, it's like it's
a But that's where I think I

629
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,239
wish they'd hit on that more.
Where the kid is just as we talk

630
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,840
about around it's just like a It's
just I don't know, it's just it

631
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,599
has the impact because yeah, like
it has an impact. I feel like

632
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:45,679
they do a good job of when
those bikers come at the end, it

633
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,960
does to me that is intense,
and it does. I think they do

634
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,440
a good job of billing that suspense, like, oh fuck, this is

635
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,320
gonna go really bad and this is
gonna be awful. Like the shot of

636
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,440
like the like the baby ball and
like the shoe on the ground, like

637
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,679
that was such a like a good
shot, like the bikers going and for

638
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,840
a brief moment, I'm like,
hey, there's no way to actually kill

639
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,719
the baby, like they probably took
out the mom and then grabbed the baby

640
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,800
or something once sweep and then that's
gonna be like Mel Gibson trying to track

641
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,840
down his baby. Like at the
end, I didn't see the run time.

642
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,440
I think that was literally like the
last ten minutes like when that scene

643
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,599
happens. But then yeah, he's
like running down the road and then you

644
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:20,760
just see like the mom there and
then like the little the little uh the

645
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,639
little baby body there. I was
just I was shocked, especially you know

646
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:27,519
the other show we're gonna be talking
about today, like that was very similar.

647
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,679
Lot of kids dying and I'm like, man, this is such a

648
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,000
sad endia and like, yeah,
she survives, but it's not like in

649
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
a good way. She's missing a
leg and arm, her face is fucked

650
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:40,920
up, like it's like she's alive, and it's like that's especially in this

651
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,039
world, Like what support are you
gonna get when you're that disabled? You

652
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:46,880
know, not even that support from
Max like he just left all he was

653
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,719
out. Yeah. Yeah, I
like that moment was intense, But I

654
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,960
feel like the overall consequence of having
like a very vulnerable child with you like

655
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,079
in this in this fucked up world
already, like it didn't feel like that

656
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,159
throughout the whole movie. Yeah,
I mean, like we're already talking about

657
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,360
it, Like it seems like the
baby just kind of pops in and out

658
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:09,519
throughout the movie, and it I
don't like that's a big because, like

659
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:14,559
you already mentioned whether it's The Walking
Dead or I can't remember if there's like

660
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:16,840
a baby in the Last of Us. But like those sort of like politic

661
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:22,159
that, yeah, like situations like
babies or even just like Young'in's are just

662
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:28,159
they feel like such a big variable
in those moments of like a major because

663
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,480
yeah, you want to you want
to keep the child safe, but like

664
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:32,199
there's so much danger out there,
even just for the adults, and then

665
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,119
you bring in this this this thing
I was gonna say that this young and

666
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,760
that needs even more attention and care
and it's like it has a lot of

667
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,239
consequence, but in this movie it
just kind of fell a little bit flat

668
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,599
and short. And I think that's
where at least because obviously George Miller done

669
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:52,000
lots of movies Happy Feet and Babe
and stuff, but like with these Mad

670
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:57,639
Max one, Happy Feet, Babe
grow, Yeah, he took a weird

671
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,679
he's too pig. He is such
an interesting I only he did Babe too,

672
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,079
but he has such an interesting career
that he did Mad Max and then

673
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:09,000
he did these like kid movies,
and then in the middle of that he

674
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:13,039
was the one that was directing Justice
League, I Mortal that got shut down

675
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:15,320
by the strike end by Nolan.
But when they're making The Dark Knight,

676
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,079
he that was the one that like
Adam Brody was the Flash and like oh,

677
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,880
like the Arnie Hammer was Batman like
Day, which thank god, you

678
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,880
know, in retrospect, but like, he has such an interesting career.

679
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,599
But I think that's where it's like, Okay, not all but works.

680
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:34,039
But I think that shows he is
still a great director, because like the

681
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:37,519
last act shouldn't work with I think
how like iffy the movie is, but

682
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:38,880
that's where he pulls it off,
like, hey, we've been Lucy goosey

683
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,639
with this baby. You don't know
much about Max. We're just on vacation

684
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,599
mode because one bad thing happened and
he left. But they still, to

685
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:51,400
me managined to make that last twenty
five twenty minutes like it's ramping up,

686
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,039
be like, oh man, this
feel. This is like bad stuff is

687
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:59,000
gonna happen here, and it's just
the anticipation because like they show up,

688
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,360
but it's like that tire place and
then they get away, and then they

689
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,159
show up at that house and then
they get away, so you keep thinking

690
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,360
like, oh they're they're clear,
and then every time it's like no,

691
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,360
they break down that door and then
it's just the fucking and that that cut

692
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,239
to of like they drive by everybody, the old lady tries to shoot somebody,

693
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,639
doesn't happen and just put that cut
off. She's running with the baby

694
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:21,280
and it's just a smash shot of
the guy you like revs his engine real

695
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,960
fast and that's when the hit happens. Just like that's the editing on this

696
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,480
movie. I think two saves it
a lot because when it's a car crashes,

697
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:30,920
races, fighting, whatever, and
then those moments that's where it just

698
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:37,280
feels so like they build up to
them getting killed, but with the actual

699
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,039
kill, it happens in a split
second. It's not long and drawn off.

700
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:44,159
It's just literally you could blink and
miss her getting hit and the baby

701
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,880
dying. But I think that kind
of adds to it because like it was

702
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,480
this long build up, but this
act one simple like five seconds can change

703
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,239
the course of everything, especially like
for Maxcus. Now he's just gonna be

704
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:57,440
off the deep end. So that's
where I think the third act kind of

705
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,239
like I won't say saves the movie, but like I think you leave you've

706
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,920
better with it because it's so well
done, and it's just it ramp its

707
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
up because like a lot of like
wives or kids can get killed, but

708
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000
you have to like ramp up to
it and do it in a certain way.

709
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:13,519
And it's so it's as like somebody
like aspiring film or it's good to

710
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:15,239
say, okay, what are your
what are certain ways to get this thing

711
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,679
done? You know? So mm
hmm, yeah, that that moment when

712
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,159
the hit happens and then he goes
to his old trunk, you know,

713
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:28,400
gets his old leather jacket on,
and yeah, like I I feel like

714
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,360
in another you know, vary issue
of this film, like you could definitely

715
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,679
have that whole sequence just happened in
the beginning of the movie. Uh,

716
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,800
and then just have like the whole
thing being him kicking ass. You know,

717
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,840
I haven't seen the other ones.
I mean that's what the other movies

718
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:44,760
are, but uh, for the
amount of like bonding time he has,

719
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,880
like with the child or like the
wife, Like, I'm totally fine,

720
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,719
we just don't have any of that, and it's literally just like him with

721
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,280
her in the beginning. Have it
already be like he's retired, and then

722
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,400
like that happens, and then he's
just tracking them down and kicking ask her

723
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,280
out the whole film. I think
that's probably the better version, But maybe

724
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,800
that would have been a lot harder
to do on the budget that they had,

725
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,039
because you would have had to just
do a lot more action sequences.

726
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,039
And you know, maybe I'm just
pulling like a John Wick movie out of

727
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:15,639
this Mad Max franchise. Maybe it's
a little bit unnecessary, but yeah,

728
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,280
I was a little bit let down
that, like the last ten minutes was

729
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,159
where I was really at the edge
of my seat waiting for him kick ass.

730
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,920
In that last ten minutes when he's
going and kicking ass and going on

731
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,079
the hunt, I guess I feel
like this This is one of the few

732
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:31,039
scenes that really just pulled me out
of it when he finally gets like the

733
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:35,559
main bag guy, and the main
bag guy just is like whatever. Here

734
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,119
he's heading straight onto an oncoming semi
truck and the main bad guy. They

735
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:43,159
used the practical effects to make like
his eyes pop out of his head like

736
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:49,519
kind of fear. That's rough cartoon, it's like that, but that's where

737
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:52,559
it's funny. It is, but
it's it's weird because that would fit in

738
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:57,320
the Fury Road, Like we were
talking about the more fantastic like sci fi

739
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,239
thing. So that's where it's like
you can see the elements of Fury Road

740
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,000
here that I'm sure George Miller had
no idea that he was ever gonna do

741
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:08,360
Fury Rope. But it's almost like
the this is the way smaller budget of

742
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,800
that, right, and like that
eye pop because you look at fear roll

743
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,559
like looking at those holds character,
that character's fucking crazy, mother's milk,

744
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:17,440
like all that stuff. It's all
really over the top. So that's where

745
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,719
the eyes. I agree with you
that in this film it stands on every

746
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,719
time it happens. He's like,
what a shot. But when you think

747
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,920
about where we go, it's like
it kind of fits with like the filmmaker

748
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,800
he becomes. So I'm like,
I'm at odds with it where it's just

749
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,840
like, but I agree with you, it's it's quite a bold shot to

750
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:38,639
do. So let's see here he
talked about, I really like I forgot

751
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:43,079
the character's name. I really like
his partner. What's his name there,

752
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,960
I'll pull it up. It's lend
me of fucking uh. What's his name?

753
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,400
Billy Joel Billy. Yeah. Yeah, the look, the look for

754
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,000
sure. I think it's just like
the eighties aesthetic with like the leather jackets

755
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,519
and stuff. Maybe just the Jim
Goose but they just call him Goose.

756
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:00,920
But yeah, I really like Goose
to the point of like, I feel

757
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,679
like, in the first half the
movie, I'm more interested in Goose than

758
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,760
Max, and I guess that's supposed
to happen. But because Goose is the

759
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,800
one where they arrest that guy,
and of course something happens, so he

760
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,480
doesn't get to charge him and he's
losing his mind and stuff, Like I

761
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:19,119
feel like he's definitely the like he's
leading us towards the plot more and like

762
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:22,960
how you should feels a character because
Max is like I'm sure he feels the

763
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,920
injustice, but he's pretty like calm
about the situation like whatever, man,

764
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,960
like, well we'll figure out and
stuff. But I really like goose terrible

765
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,639
way to go out, just handcuffed
to a car and you know, some

766
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,920
on fire. We get that back
later on. I wonder I'd love to

767
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,480
maybe, he said in an interview, I'd love to talk to Lewan al

768
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:40,280
Er James want about if they saw
Max and that was ever the point where

769
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,280
like because he gives them the saw
scenario right of like you can saw through

770
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,559
the chain out the token ten minutes
where you saw through your foot that might

771
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:51,639
be five and you might get out
alive. I just wonder one of them

772
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:53,679
somewhere watching at like twelve thirteen year
old be like, oh, I'm gonna

773
00:45:53,719 --> 00:46:00,360
do that one day myself. So
which just like I had guess, I

774
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,000
guess he deserves it, you know, like I don't know he's It's tough

775
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:10,840
because it's like I don't know did
he kill He didn't mean to kill Goose,

776
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,159
Like it's the character is some sort
of on the spectrum, right,

777
00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:20,599
and clearly the Biker game bad guys
take advantage of this character and put him

778
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:24,000
in a certain direction. Even when
he kills Goose, he didn't throw the

779
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:29,000
match. The main bat like shakes
him and he drops it. Not that

780
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:30,440
Max cared and that's fine, I
get it. This guy's also done like

781
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,760
he also sexually assaults them characters.
But it's like the Biker's kind of forceome.

782
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,800
It's an odd It's every time I
watch this, it's it's an odd

783
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,559
scenario where you have this character that
I don't know how much he's being taken

784
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:44,840
advantage of, how much he's doing, but you know Max doesn't care at

785
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,559
that point because he fucks him up. And it's weird that he's also like

786
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:51,920
the final type of boss guy,
Like it's not tok or they just take

787
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,320
token or the like. I almost
would love to switch the scenarios where the

788
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,000
guy that is on the spectrum,
he maybe just it's taken out because of

789
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,280
the road war and it's just maxiquing
guys out. I feel like I would

790
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,360
have preferred toe Cutter to be the
guy that's burning alive to death, and

791
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,119
I think he also deserved not a
quick death either, because I like,

792
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,199
and what do you guys think about
like the bikers, the villains, and

793
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,639
also just toe Cutter in general,
because he's like the main villain. He

794
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,079
comes back later on in Fear Road. He's the guy that plays the like

795
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,960
I can't remember or more than Joe. He plays with the mask and everything.

796
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,599
Oh, I don't think it's the
same character, but he comes back

797
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:28,039
to play that. So what do
you guys think about him and the whole

798
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,480
gang, Because there's quite a bit
of scenes, like with the fucking doll

799
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:34,480
where we're just with them for five
minutes and they're like shooting the stall.

800
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:37,440
Like there's a couple detours we take
just to hang out with these fucking Looney

801
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:43,599
Tunes type villains. I think it
was I'm a little bit in the middle,

802
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:46,280
Like yeah, not like I don't
want to say forgettable, because like

803
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:52,119
they are just very eccentric with like
their outfits and everything and just their behavior

804
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:55,360
the people like crawling on the fucking
rooftop, meowing at the uh A jests

805
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:00,440
I think is her name, So
like for that aspect, they're kind of

806
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,800
memorable, and they also just kind
of represent like the crazy biker post apocalyptic

807
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,599
gang that like obviously Fury Road just
does that in like a whole like times

808
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:14,559
ten maybe times one hundred method when
all the vehicles and just aesthetic that they

809
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:17,719
have to the characters, but like
also just that type of character or archetype

810
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,480
maybe for a villain it's been transitioned
to like the games like Fallout, or

811
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:28,679
just like any type of like post
apocalyptic type faction where you have a collection

812
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,440
of crazy people wearing just just like
they got funky glasses and just dressed weird

813
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,599
and super bizarre behaviors. So I
don't know where that like type of character

814
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:42,800
really originated from. I would imagine
it wouldn't have been too much earlier than

815
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,719
like something like this. So for
that aspect, I kind of appreciate it.

816
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,360
But even just like toe Cutter,
I definitely wanted to see a more

817
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,000
satisfying way that he went out because
he is just such a piece of shit

818
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:55,400
character and usually you know, you
want to see them go out in very

819
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,320
painful, burning alive type method,
you know, not exactly, but something

820
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,280
more than just like a quick death. And then so yeah, for that

821
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,880
aspect, I think. I think
because of the way he went out,

822
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:14,119
I like it less than or sorry. I like the character less just just

823
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:20,039
overall, and like even just on
like the particular scenes, it wasn't as

824
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,920
scary as maybe some other characters that
I that I would have expected him to

825
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:28,039
be, Like he just is kind
of bizarre and then just just treats his

826
00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:31,719
his little lackey's in the same way
of like he's very like this godlike type

827
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,280
character in their eyes. Taylor mentioned
like he takes his helmet off there,

828
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,840
like pett in his hair and everything. Not really my favorite type of villain,

829
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,480
but I think it's it's okay for
what was done here. But because

830
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:45,320
of the way they he went out, I didn't love it as as much,

831
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:51,039
and honestly, it's just gonna become
I think, a forgettable character at

832
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:52,800
the end of the day, especially
even compared to Fear wrote like the main

833
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:58,079
villain of that movie is so much
more memorable. It's kind of funny.

834
00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:01,400
It's same guy. Yeah, you
said, better actor. I don't think

835
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,559
it's I'm sure. I'm not sure. If there's like some theories out there

836
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,239
that if he got hit by the
car and that's why I don't know if

837
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,159
there is something because I'm not that
deep in the Mad Max lower. So

838
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:13,119
when we get to Fury what,
I will look into it and see if

839
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:15,840
there was that or just Miller like
like using that actor and it's like,

840
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,840
well, it's a different character.
You're wearing a mask, and it's like

841
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,400
it's also years later, right,
it's Tom Hardy, So it's like,

842
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,800
okay, s it is cool having
like the main villain actor back for like

843
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,679
Fury Road and another big villain role. Yeah. Yeah, what about you,

844
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,400
Taylor, what you feel about toe
cut in the Gang? Yeah,

845
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,000
I feel like his end was it
was lackluster. I really thought too that

846
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,119
he had a lot more goons and
we kind of just see him kind of

847
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:42,400
close out being hunted with like five
people. But when he went to that

848
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,719
town, they're on vacation that day, a lot of them apparently. Yeah,

849
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:52,039
so that's his end was definitely anticlimactic. In comparison, I feel like

850
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:55,920
he definitely deserved the treatment that the
other guy got U with the saw and

851
00:50:57,039 --> 00:51:00,920
the handcuffed to the vehicle. I
think that was much more fitting for toe

852
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,679
Cutter. But I guess it it
is what it is I will not be

853
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,559
probably remembering him very well. I
remember him as a more immorton Joe a

854
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:12,800
lot more than than toe Cutter for
that same reason. But yeah, he

855
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,199
was just a very interesting I guess
to a slight degree, just his motives

856
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:19,159
I read. I think he was
like in the military before the fall they

857
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:22,199
call it. So m I don't
know how much extra lord there is with

858
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,280
this character, though, Yeah,
I got to find out, you know,

859
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,800
I like them and not like I
think there's they're definitely just going for

860
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:32,199
is the villain. They're very bad, They're going to commit a very bad

861
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,760
act and you're gonna want to see
it. Like I think the actors then

862
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,559
do a good enough job to make
them feel like they're just gross people that

863
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:40,920
you want to see killed, right, And that's what happens. It's not

864
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:45,559
because it's it's hard when we talk
about villains, like you have to give

865
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,440
them a point of view. It's
like, well, if this character and

866
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,760
his team were going to kill a
mother and child, there's no like Fano.

867
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,480
So it's like, well, for
the greater good of the world,

868
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,239
it's like, no like that that
you can't do with this type of villain.

869
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,239
It's like you just got to make
them terrible. And I think there's

870
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,320
times where, like I said,
the actor does do a good job of

871
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,320
making the guy feel slimy and gross
and you just like you would not.

872
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,000
It does feel where if you were
at the ice cream shop and these people

873
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,480
pulled up, I would not want
to be in the scenario. It'd be

874
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,039
like, fuck, we gotta get
out of here. And I think that's

875
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:16,039
because I've seen the movies where it
doesn't play like that all where they're supposed

876
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:19,800
to be intimidating. I think some
of the characters around him not so much,

877
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,239
because I think they make them almost
overly too silly. So I get

878
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,480
it the way they're like those getting
of characters, but sometimes it's like that

879
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,920
would have fit better. And like
we said, maybe if you're road where

880
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,719
like there is like Nicholas w and
other characters that are very over the top,

881
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,320
but they're going for that, so
again it's like almost stuck in between

882
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,400
like what it is then what it
will become in a way, you know,

883
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:39,719
so that they almost reminded me of
is like Jack Nicholson, like when

884
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:44,599
he's the Joker in Batman. Yeah, like his goons, like the level

885
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:46,760
yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I like them they get the

886
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,239
job done. I wonder if it
would have been better for a build up,

887
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,760
because it also just feels like they
just kill them because it was like

888
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,679
an inconvenient She embarrassed him, right, she put the ice cream in his

889
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:00,519
face, kicked him in the nuts, and that was it. It's not

890
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:02,719
like Max left the force and he's
been at from the whole time, So

891
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,719
maybe that could have been a bit
better too. Of like the hand as

892
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,880
well. I mean that was he
does off of like we'll trade you baby

893
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,159
for the hand or something. Yeah, But so that all happens at the

894
00:53:13,159 --> 00:53:15,000
gas station. R. It has
nothing to do with Max being on the

895
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:19,119
fours. This could have been anybody. It's just a coincidence that they bump

896
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:22,800
into Max again. So I almost
would have preferred if they did some sort

897
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,639
of way that Yeah Max, maybe
Goose Diyves mass killed one of those people,

898
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,119
and the whole movie they are trying
to there's like some sense of urgency.

899
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,320
But it's just a coincidence that they
were at the same you know,

900
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:37,199
shop at the same time, and
that's why they met up with Max again,

901
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,039
you know, like he knows they're
bad people, but they could have

902
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:40,880
been anybody that killed his family,
you know, So it's just there.

903
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,159
You could have done, I think
some more development with Max and the villains

904
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:46,960
there, maybe if you made a
greater link between the two. Do you

905
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,000
think there's any proper reason as to
why Max just leaves a photo of all

906
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,000
the victims in to catchers like helmet
on his bike and then just leaves.

907
00:53:57,039 --> 00:54:00,960
Doesn't doesn't like slash a tire,
break the bike down to anything. He

908
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,239
just leaves the photos, Yeah,
and also putting them alert to like,

909
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:07,920
yeah, it's an it's an odd
I thought the same thing too, because

910
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,239
I'm like, so he was there
at a bike, why did he not

911
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,159
teme out? Now, I guess
the idea is he wants take him out

912
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:15,400
on the road because he has the
advantage or something. I don't know,

913
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,840
like he feels gets advantage the ground
arm run over. I'm gonna give the

914
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,159
guy a benefit of doubt that you
know, he lost his child, his

915
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:28,320
wife's mangled. He he wasn't thinking, so he just I guess maybe he

916
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,039
just wanted to scare them the same
way he him and his family were scared,

917
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:34,119
right, because if they just die, they just die. Right away.

918
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:36,840
So maybe he wanted it was a
mental thing of like I want them

919
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,320
to feel the fear that I had. But I think there's other ways you

920
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,480
could do that out than the photos. But uh yeah, because what if

921
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,559
they got away and he's like,
man, I had the chance again,

922
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,760
Yeah, I had the chance to
get him. All I did is leave

923
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,559
photos in their hat and their helmets, you know, but it all worked

924
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:55,760
out something something that kind of triggered
me. Maybe not maybe it's an extreme

925
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,320
word, but't get in here.
You don't fucking believe this definitely broke try

926
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,679
to put on my screen. I
think enjoyment of it is like this is

927
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,079
a dangerous world, you know,
especially like mad Max has. He's been

928
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:08,800
on the force, He's dealt with
like the worst of the worst. There

929
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:14,840
is at least two big moments when
like he just lets his wife and the

930
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,480
kid or the dog just like yeah, you can go chill at the beach

931
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:22,519
alone, or like just wander go
get ice cream through like a fucking haunted

932
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:27,440
wood. It was almost like like
that was that was very far and I

933
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,320
feel like Jason was gonna pop up
at any moment, and like it doesn't

934
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,679
feel like you know, Fury Road
level of post apocalyptic world. But like

935
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,679
they've set it up that this is
like society is not in a great place

936
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:42,639
that you can just go on like
a private public beach venture alone. And

937
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:45,199
they just had this interaction with the
stage too. It's not like they didn't

938
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:46,400
have it. And that's where it
almost would be better if you made it

939
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,239
that they didn't know there and they
don't know they're coming. But still it's

940
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,559
like mad Max, like he also
he was a cop, so he should

941
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,559
know these people. Like that's what
I mean. Yeah, they don't fuck

942
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:59,280
around, So like you've embarrassed them
and gone away or did the wife just

943
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,760
not like full ex playing. That's
a t because my fairitness when she pulled,

944
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:06,079
she's like Max, we gotta go
what we gotta fucking go? Really,

945
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,480
we're just literally we gotta like my
like I might ask once what once,

946
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,039
but if it's like this, say
like you need to get in the

947
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:15,760
car, Max, it's just like
at that door from like yeah but the

948
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:21,280
tire, like he's taking so long, scream yeah, get in the fucking

949
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,800
car. Dude. Again, we
were in this world too. It's not

950
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,079
like a regular day. It's like
you know, like this happens and he

951
00:56:27,159 --> 00:56:30,159
takes so long, like fucking clue, and like, oh, we might

952
00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:32,599
be in danger. So it's like
hopefully she told the whole scenario. So

953
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:37,119
that decision was just just so annoying
to me because like after the first time,

954
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:40,000
like going to get ice cream,
I think that's sketchy. Like if

955
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,719
that's me and Shay and she's bringing
Marco to we in ice cream, I'm

956
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,800
like, fuck that don't like I
would like to be with you in those

957
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,440
moments. Yeah, But like it's
not even like he's a regular Joe,

958
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,079
Like he's literally he knows that the
worst, the worst are out there.

959
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,199
This is such a dangerous world.
His friend, Look what happen to his

960
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:57,880
friend. That's why he quit the
force. That bothered me. That bothered

961
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,400
me for sure, And just there's
stuff too, like and I get it,

962
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,960
they have to do something. But
when the bad guys get there and

963
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,639
they have the babe and the old
lad pulls up the gun, she shoots

964
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:10,039
a gasoline barrel, and I get
it's like a warning because she's caring.

965
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:14,760
Yeah, but like I get it
because they do draw up the kid and

966
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,320
get like, imagine if that went
just terrible, if you just show and

967
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,639
there was some explosion. You're just
fucking like, sure you take them off,

968
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:23,039
but also took up the kid like
I guess the kid died anyways.

969
00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:25,679
I guess it wouldn't have mattered,
but like it was just like it was

970
00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:31,400
a bowl play and even then it
was It's odd because the I'm gonna say

971
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,320
her son, I guess that has
the special needs. It's weird where she's

972
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,039
like, oh, like, don't
let him scary. He's just like a

973
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,440
childheard something. So they say that, but like you don't bump until him,

974
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:44,920
you don't bump into him till like
she's already running away from the other

975
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,079
bad guy. So it's just felt
like a week like that characters was not

976
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:51,719
needed at all, like just pluck
pluck that, Like I would just love

977
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:52,800
to say, like why was it
even there, Like why did you even

978
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,719
have to pay this actorate? Nothing
happened, he didn't help, they didn't

979
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,000
kill him. He was just she
was. He wasn't even like a red

980
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,079
airing because when they did the jump
scare, like shit was already going down.

981
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:05,880
There's like dozens of guys on those
beach, so it's not like u,

982
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:07,440
oh, she bumped into him and
was scared. I don't know,

983
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:12,480
it was a it was a odd
choice with that one, so like I

984
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:16,039
just wouldn't feel comfortably either leaving my
wife and kid at the home while I

985
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:20,199
go out into the woods. And
he went really really far into the woods,

986
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,559
especially because he didn't get he didn't
connect with like where my son is

987
00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:25,480
the sun. Was just alone out
there the whole time, enough alone enough

988
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:30,920
that these bikers could snatch him and
hide out where the barn was. So

989
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:37,280
yeah, yeah, makes some more
decisions better in the sequel. Do you

990
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:43,360
guys have any other notes before I
get into some trivia negative, I don't

991
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,719
think so. No, let's see. Oh sorry, sorry I remembered one

992
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:52,679
notes. Oh yeah, I got
notes. It's just a quick one at

993
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:57,559
the beginning with the night rider,
the guy and his girl, he's just

994
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:01,400
like high on something and he sees
there's the kid that runs out into the

995
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,719
street just randomly out of the stroller, and he's just it cuts to a

996
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:08,199
close up with him like licking his
lips and then make it think like he's

997
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:13,360
just gonna run his kidd Like I
don't know, I think he might even

998
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,480
attended to like run them over.
You might just missed it. Not a

999
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:21,280
good driver, you know, but
some at least parallels or some insinuations to

1000
00:59:21,719 --> 00:59:24,719
wind what's gonna happen later on?
Yeah, foreshadowing, So that mom too

1001
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:30,760
must have been just shitting their pants
just seeing that coming. And all right.

1002
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,920
Most of the actors in this film
were paid in beer, so there

1003
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,639
you go. Nice. The gad
jail free card that Goose gives the gifts

1004
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:44,079
Striker was an onset joke because of
the limited budget. The biker gang was

1005
00:59:44,239 --> 00:59:50,000
actually a biker gang, the Vigilantes
or the Vigilants, and they had to

1006
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:52,800
ride to set. Each stay in
costume and often with their prop weapons displayed.

1007
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:58,159
Since production company expected them to be
pulled over by local police. Each

1008
00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:02,679
was given a letter explaining the film
requirements, those asking law enforcements to understand

1009
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:07,280
and cooperate. So just every day
they're going to set bold play. Yeah,

1010
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,599
so you expect me to believe that
this letter is gonna get you out

1011
01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:14,199
of jail for you, they just
fucking arrest all of them. Here's this

1012
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,000
letter. Oh let's see. Oh
I say I did have a couple of

1013
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:21,599
notes too. Went after his friend
died, there was a moment where Max

1014
01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:23,280
was in bed. He just woke
up and they just like a hard zoom

1015
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,960
in with a loud noise, and
then he just like went back to bed.

1016
01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:30,760
It was just a wild thing.
You're the thing you mentioned there that's

1017
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,519
crazy, but just them using a
real gang from the movie and went on

1018
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:37,960
and like pang and beer and everything. Today, Madison was listening to a

1019
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:43,880
podcast and they were talking about how
a Rolling Stones concert back in oh when

1020
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:46,800
was it It was nineteen sixty nine
actually had I think it was either the

1021
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,960
Hou's Angels or a biker gang they
paid them, I think was I think

1022
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,880
it was even with beer. I
I don't know how they paid them,

1023
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,599
but they were basically like the guards
for the concert, like they were just

1024
01:00:55,639 --> 01:01:00,760
beating people up. People got murdered
and died like it was bad. Yeah,

1025
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,400
so it's that's not anymore. Yeah, I don't think out of Taylor

1026
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,480
Joys being protected by the vigilantes anymore
or whatever. And then I also mentioned

1027
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,840
in the third act he there you
talked about the eyes. One problem I

1028
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:19,280
had is Win to our Yeah,
toe Cutter sees Max, he like hisses

1029
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,880
at him. He's like yeah,
and that's it's like, this is the

1030
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,400
time where it doesn't work for me, Like sometimes the old talk working as

1031
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,039
them. It's like in that moment, I just want to believe, like

1032
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,320
because I feel like they're trying to
make him seem smarter than the other guys.

1033
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,440
But in that one was like,
oh, you're not so, but

1034
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:36,159
you know something. George Miller raised
money for Mad Max by working as an

1035
01:01:36,199 --> 01:01:39,199
emergency room doctor, and often he
used a lot of the situations from there

1036
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:43,960
as the you know, stuff like
the burn victim, the loss of limbs

1037
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,840
and stuff. So filming them like
these real people you're gonna be in a

1038
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:51,960
movie. Yeah. George Miller paid
a truck driver fifty dollars two hundred and

1039
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,480
two dollars in twenty twenty two UH
to run over the bike in the final

1040
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:59,760
scene. However, the truck driver
didn't want to damage his rig, thus

1041
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,880
the crew had to install a shield
painted to look like the front of the

1042
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,840
rig, so they had to pay
him, and then they had to put

1043
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,159
a fake reggae in front of his
truck. So they just paid some random

1044
01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:10,880
truck driver to run over the bike. So it's just you'd think it's somebody

1045
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,159
know. It's just like, I'd
love to know how they found them like

1046
01:02:14,199 --> 01:02:15,679
just had a gas like, hey, you want to run over a bike

1047
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:21,719
our patients? Yeah? Yeah,
hey, while you're out of here.

1048
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,880
The crew couldn't afford a bake breakaway
prop door, so the actress had to

1049
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,159
break through assaulid door set door at
the end, which I it's funny because

1050
01:02:29,199 --> 01:02:30,159
they hit it once and a brick
comes out. I'm like, this looks

1051
01:02:30,199 --> 01:02:35,039
really real, and yeah, it
was just a real door. So because

1052
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:39,039
of the tight budget, actual decommissioned
police cars were used in the film.

1053
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:45,000
Goose was wearing real leathers. All
the other police officers were wearing vinyl costumes.

1054
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:51,239
The motorcycles all later all late model
demonstration units, so that all the

1055
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,679
more circles the reason were just demos
units I guess were donated. Many of

1056
01:02:55,719 --> 01:02:59,599
the bikers were kept them after the
streating was complete, because I guess they

1057
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:02,559
didn't there's they're just demo bikes and
they're going to toss them after. So

1058
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,719
they tried to get vehicles as much
as cheaply as they could. Miller described

1059
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:14,920
the whole experience as gorilla filmmaking,
where the crew would close roads without filming

1060
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,159
permits, not use walkie talkies because
their frequency co incide with police radio.

1061
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,519
After filming was dune, Hiller and
producer I would even sweep down the road

1062
01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:27,239
still. As filming progressed, Victoria
police became interested in the production, helping

1063
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:30,880
the crew by closing out roads and
sporting vehicles. So eventually the police just

1064
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:32,760
joined them. You know. But
see, there go Taylor. When we

1065
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,519
were doing Adrenic Rome and we were
in that area we weren't supposed to do,

1066
01:03:36,639 --> 01:03:40,280
we got fined. We're yeah,
we're doing grill film. Like you

1067
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,519
just gotta tell yourself that too.
The greats have done shady things as well

1068
01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:45,519
when filming. We've not done anything. Well, I guess we did some

1069
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:47,760
illegal. We didn't do anything but
hurt something. It was just a sign

1070
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,519
of like, don't go here,
trouble. And you know, we had

1071
01:03:51,559 --> 01:03:53,559
to go there a couple of times, and Taylor was worried every single time.

1072
01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,760
Yeah, do you think people go
around here and we did not get

1073
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,320
in the same area. Yeah,
we see multiple other people say's like fuck,

1074
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,400
we could be in trouble. But
yeah, we had to take some

1075
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:12,360
risks. Let's see and here here
it was where mither se in twenty fifteen

1076
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,840
that it was not his intention when
the script was written that was going to

1077
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,119
be set in a post box world. This was done because they didn't have

1078
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:20,760
the money for extras and properly maintained
buildings. In order to cover for this

1079
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:25,440
uh, the title card was added
the benna explaining the story was set after

1080
01:04:25,519 --> 01:04:30,239
World War This also counts for why
there's generally more of established a society in

1081
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,119
this film than any of the sequels. So, like I said, it

1082
01:04:32,199 --> 01:04:35,320
just was kind of a last minute
thing where it's like, well, let's,

1083
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,599
uh, let's make this post apocalyptic. Oh yeah, Like I said,

1084
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:43,159
this was the biggest uh. Often
credit as the movie that opened to

1085
01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:46,639
the global market to Australian movies on
its short shoestring budget, set a new

1086
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:50,199
record for the most profitable independent film
all time until Blair Witch Project came out

1087
01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:53,719
in nineteen ninety nine. Because I
was saying this to Taylor Vertunnel was in

1088
01:04:53,719 --> 01:04:57,320
the car, let me just quickly
check, like player Witch Project, that

1089
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,119
had to be like, it's like
a one hundred thousand, wasn't it the

1090
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:03,519
budget? Even that, I'm surprised
it's that really one hundred grand. I

1091
01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:08,639
feel like it it must have been
less than this. It was two hundred

1092
01:05:08,639 --> 01:05:14,239
to seven one hundred and fifty thousand. Why why what one blair witch costs

1093
01:05:14,239 --> 01:05:18,280
so much money? They're using like
a cam corder their salaries to pay themselves.

1094
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:23,280
Fuck yeah, food budget, they're
eating really good. Yeah jeez.

1095
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,599
I mean there was just like cabin
and then out in the woods of the

1096
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:28,920
camp Quarner, right, that's it. Yeah, those tents must have got

1097
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,679
really expensive in the nine the marketing
budget, that's true. The market they

1098
01:05:32,719 --> 01:05:35,800
fucking marked the fuck out of that
when Peele even thought it was hey things,

1099
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:41,719
So yeah, they had to pay
to hide the actors and yeah there

1100
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,840
you go. So Kokan Pats,
what are your foul thoughts? And a

1101
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,559
rating on this bad boy? Yeah? So over yeah, overall, I

1102
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:51,559
think I was a little bit let
down just because I had, I don't

1103
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:55,639
know, just preconceived notions of what
was going to be going on. I

1104
01:05:55,679 --> 01:06:00,920
had big expectations for like this,
this is this prime Gibson era, like

1105
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,280
what's brazy? This kicks off,
the this kicks off, the this is

1106
01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:06,880
this is up and comer Malkips I
think I don't think. I think this

1107
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,679
is like this makes a name for
him Melkips, And I'm like, oh,

1108
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:15,480
who's this guy? You know?
Yeah, so I was excited for

1109
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:18,559
his first appearance in Bad Max and
a little bit let down for the performance.

1110
01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:21,639
A little bit let down from the
movie. There's still some really great

1111
01:06:21,719 --> 01:06:26,960
stuff in here, especially just you
know, of a filmmaking aspect and how

1112
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,559
they work with the budget. All
the action shots were really really fun to

1113
01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:35,159
see, and even just like this
reoccurring theme of these like high octane like

1114
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,679
car chase scenes. Obviously Fury Road
is just like, you know, times

1115
01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:45,760
a million on that aspect, but
it's just cool to see. Uh that

1116
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:50,440
that done with the high the engines
roaring, smashing through like buses and stuff

1117
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,119
like all that was really great to
see. Uh, it was so great.

1118
01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:56,840
I wanted more of it, and
I think because there wasn't more of

1119
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,960
it, it kind of brings my
score down a little bit. Ah,

1120
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:06,400
I should have thought more about my
actual rating here. I think I think

1121
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,079
like six and a half maybe out
of ten. Yeah, like somewhere in

1122
01:07:11,079 --> 01:07:14,719
that range, not quite a seven. Just because there was a lot of

1123
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:16,480
moments in here. I was just
kind of checked out. I don't really

1124
01:07:16,519 --> 01:07:20,400
think I'll rewatch this unless I'm you
know, with a friend or someone that

1125
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,000
has never seen it really wants to. Maybe if I lose that argument,

1126
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:29,239
throw it on, but we must
watch Mad Max. There's a lot more

1127
01:07:29,679 --> 01:07:34,920
great films out there in either the
post apocalyptic or even just in the the

1128
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:41,159
high octane action sequence. So yeah, I don't know. It might fluctuate

1129
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:43,840
in another viewing, positive or negative, but as of right now, I

1130
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,920
think I'm okay with the six and
a half. Yeah it's tough. I

1131
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,719
feel like I'm gonna go just like
a little bit about Kurg and be like

1132
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:53,639
a six point seven five because I
wanted to do a seven because just for

1133
01:07:53,679 --> 01:07:56,599
the filmmaking aspects and that stuff.
But I've always said that I give a

1134
01:07:56,639 --> 01:07:59,960
seven for movies that maybe aren't the
grace, but I know I'll still rewatch

1135
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:03,079
from a bunch and I it's not
that level. So like on a technical

1136
01:08:03,159 --> 01:08:08,719
level, maybe this sement on like
my you know, viewership, what I

1137
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,639
go as a moviegoer. It's it's
just six point seven five. It's just

1138
01:08:11,679 --> 01:08:14,920
under that because yeah, I won't
I don't know when I will watch this

1139
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,760
again, because I guess I did
that a couple years or last year or

1140
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,560
something with Emily, and then I
did it for this, it's just kind

1141
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:25,279
of like, Okay, I think
I've scratched that itch and there's not enough

1142
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,880
great stuff in here to return to. But there's some interesting concepts, and

1143
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,079
I'm you know, happy exis because
obviously went to a different run. It

1144
01:08:31,079 --> 01:08:33,800
gets us without this, it gets
us, doesn't get us a fear run

1145
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,760
Fear road I love. So it's
like this is like a good step in

1146
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:41,159
the right direction. So yeah,
that's where I am a six point seven

1147
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:46,520
five, So I'm going to do
a solid six point five. I could

1148
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,800
rewatch this again for sure, but
not in a rush too, it'd just

1149
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:56,520
be down the road. Yeah.
I think that there's there's definitely some weird

1150
01:08:57,079 --> 01:09:00,119
developmental things with some of our characters
and and such, and some things that

1151
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:02,960
weren't really expanded on. But at
the end of the day, we learned

1152
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:08,199
that it's just a gorilla film.
With how they did certain things and how

1153
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:11,560
they had to film certain things,
that makes it very interesting to know and

1154
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,960
gives it a little bit more I
guess, forgiveness with how they had to

1155
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,640
tackle it. Yeah, I mean
it's not like that. It's not like

1156
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,239
the movies we review. They're like
one hundred million dollar budgets and they have

1157
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:23,079
a bunch of these errors, like, oh, come on now that,

1158
01:09:23,159 --> 01:09:26,600
like I said, this is this
movie's made for one point two million dollars

1159
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,880
in our money, so yeah,
yeah, so I give it some some

1160
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,319
leeway there. But overall, I
liked how they were able to do what

1161
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:38,920
they did with the things that they
had to I guess pull off and all

1162
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,880
and all, it creates like a
very interesting new franchise with its own unique

1163
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,119
world and its own unique narrative that
has spun off all these sequels that we're

1164
01:09:46,119 --> 01:09:48,600
going to get into. So I
can really appreciate it for that. And

1165
01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:53,079
yeah, I just I'm excited to
see where this is going to go to

1166
01:09:53,119 --> 01:09:56,119
the sequels because I know nothing about
the sequels. I know that he goes

1167
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:58,479
through some kind of exile, that's
what I read, but I don't I

1168
01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:00,840
don't know anything that's going on aside
from Fury Road. That's the only other

1169
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:06,039
one I've seen. Oh there we
go. Sorry for the big yawn still

1170
01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:09,760
early here, but yeah, there
we go. We've done it, mad

1171
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,880
Max. This is the kickoff,
so next will be the Road Warrior,

1172
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,840
often kind of highlight before Fury Road
is the highlight of the series. So

1173
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,880
it's been a good man since I've
seen that. So uh yeah, we

1174
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,279
will be back. Hope you enjoyed, let us know what you thought about

1175
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,279
Mad Max, any questions going forward, and yeah, when you hear FROMS

1176
01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:29,760
next, it'll not be boring.
Bye bye,