Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Mad Match. Fuck the Mad
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So let's get into this. So this is mad Max God I forgot to
pull up when it originally came out, Thank you very much. So I'm
gonna lead off with a trivia fact just to kind of set up that this
was at one point the most profitable like kind of independent film until A Blair
Witch came out. So it's not like the most profitable of all time.
That's like based on its budget, and it was a very shoe string budget.
This one was and there's a couple of notes of it. It's classical
when we talk about evil Dead. It's very like gorilla filmmaking. And let
me find out the full and budget. But yeah, George Miller did this
and the budget was three hundred to four hundred thousand dollars. Film made one
hundred million dollars, so it's pretty impressive. So that kind of started the
legacy of it. But Krika pats are One, if this wasn't your first
time, tell us about that experience. And then two, just tell us
about your experience overall Mad Max because it is like a I think it's a
classic franchise, but it's also not like one of the biggest franchise because there's
only there's only five gonna be six or no, yeah, there's only five
films. There's only four right now, so it's not and they're all kind
of spaced out in a weird time. So just your overall on this first
film, and then also just the genre. Yeah, this is this is
the first time I've seen this original Mad Max. I watched well, I
guess twenty twenty four now, but in twenty twenty three, I watched Fury
Road for the first time, so that was like really recently that I actually
jumped into this franchise. And I mean, yeah, this isn't the episode
that I talked about Fury Road. This is about the series. We'll get
there, like I will say, I especially like I guess knowing that it
was just such a big like phenomenon at that time, like really really low
budget compared to what it made, and even just scenes like I'm pretty shocked
that they're able to pull some of that stuff off with the budget that they
had, because there is like a lot of practical, high octane action with
like the vehicles crashing and whatnot. Mel Gibson is like extremely young in this
and there's just a lot of scenes I was not expecting, and a lot
of this movie I just I was not expecting that it was going to be
going the way that it did, like like a minor spoil like the last
like thirty minutes of this film. I thought it was gonna be the entire
movie, Like I thought that's what this whole movie was gonna be. And
I think for that reason, I don't know why I had like expectations coming
into it, because I didn't like. All I knew was Mel Gibson and
the leather jacket in a car with like a with a gun, like like
that image in my mind, that's just kind of what I attributed Mad Max
as, and I feel like for a lot of this movie, he's not
really that. But yeah, well and even Fury wrote which you have seen
much like I was talking without Taya in the car last night to think about
this film and where you get it's like night and day, Like there's some
similarities, but this is nothing like Fury Road at no. You know,
it's like they're taking that that spray paint thing, you know when they made
the Fear Road one. Just get fired up. So yeah, no long
witted way of saying, I feel like I was a little bit let down
by this one just because I had those expectations coming into it. I really
did love all the practical action with the cars crashing, Like I was just
amazed with with some of the things that I was seeing just seeing down the
budget too. Yeah, it's really impressive, that's the thing. And you
know, as we're making movies now, like I just feel like I've totally
grown to appreciate things like that, whether I'm watching like the original Evil Dead,
just what they're able to piece together with the budgets that they had.
But how do they do that and how do they do it safely? You
know, it's still a hundred times more than our budgets. Yeah, yeah,
trust me, We're lucky to just get into the thousand mark. You
know, if I had a three hundred fifty thousand dollars budget, I'd be
totally happy. Oh yeah, man, I'd be doing a lot of weapons.
Yeah, his own vehicle. Tell me the sequel, we get to
Treadochrome three, it'll be like Mad Max. We're all in cars and stuff
like that. Yeah. So, I mean, like the crazy, the
crazy characters they had in this. I guess that is kind of what felt
a lot closer to what The Furiy Road was, just because everyone in Furiy
Roads is just wacky, and there is some very kooky characters in here that
we're scary for what they were used for. And there's there's some really like
dumb decisions. I think that, like some of our main characters make throughout
the film, that just kind of bugged me, And I think I was
just kind of picking it apart in like a negative sense, as opposed to
if I just would have watched it back in the day and just enjoyed it
for whatever the story or the action was, and then maybe had that nostalgia
attachment to it, because like this even has like an eighty nine percent of
rot Tomatoes, and that just kind of shocks me. I'm curious if that's
like a legit Rotten Tomatoes score or if you know, Rotten Tomatoes wasn't around
nineteen seventy nine. So is that just like a nostalgia thing that people bringing
their own thoughts into that. I'm curious, like how you guys think,
at least for I think they do collect some reviews in the past. When
Run to meos start adding older films, I think they did try to collect
reviews of the past, yeah, and put them in there. And I
could see if the when did you say it was nineteen eighty nine? Seventy
nine? Fuck, I could see seventy nine. This is getting like positive
reviews and stuff. But when te goes, I'm actually gonna pull it up
and be curious because and there's probably definite Yeah, there's some So are you
insinuating like I don't get your phone you insinuating that you had been on the
raw in side, then you would have given this the ma Frost, just
not in eighty nine, like this would be like this would be like one
of these, you know, like I came in between thumbs up and mid
thumb like like, I guess the last thing I'll say before I passed along
is and I've already said it too, is just like the action I was
very shocked with comparing it to the budget, like what they're able to pull
off with just the car crashes and stuff they're like just seeing them run into
bikers like that was just crazy to see on screen and obviously like no CGI,
so they did it practically, and I was very impressed by that stuff,
and I think I was just wanting a lot more of that. And
maybe that's just me like pulling in like the Fury Road like memories from it,
just like well they did in Fury Road, but like also massive budget
compared to what this would have been, and just a more modern, modern
film. So I think I was just wanting a lot more of that,
And some of the quieter moments maybe in the middle act were just kind of
losing me a little bit. I was wanting some more that action, and
by the time that we get to the third act and like leading up to
the big climactic moment when he's Mad Max and kicking Ass and taking out the
bikers, I just wanted like most of the movie being that. So like
again, like it's just kind of my own expectations. I think I brought
into it, which you never really want to do. But I think you're
like the sequels, I think more, yeah, more set up for that,
right, And there's only sixty five reviews by the way I'm running me,
and some of them are like two thousand and seven, So I think
it's harder with that one because nowadays, like when you look at the movies,
there's like four hundred and five hundred raised, so it's like it's like
eighty nine but very small pool of people. So and you saying that,
like, I'll probably like the sequels a lot more. I think I've just
seen a lot of maybe images or like yes, like things pulled from just
the Mad Max kick and Ass thing. So I was just a little bit
surprised that that wasn't the whole movie for this original But yeah, I think
that's all I gotta say. For now, mister Field. So, yeah,
the first time I saw this movie would have been with my dad a
long, long time ago. And when I remembered, yeah yeah, right
in the theater, you didn't know what I remembered. At least what I
thought I remembered was that society was still functioning, and like in the movie,
like governments were like, okay, yeah, we're shut down, and
that's when like things went instantly crazy and it just got really really bad,
really really fast. That's what I thought I had remembered. But it's it's
neat going back and watching it now and understand it, and no, this
is totally different. This is just the tail end of governments are crumbling but
still trying to keep a grasp on things. I don't think nuclear war is
broken out, you know, but it's just the tensions are high and people,
like what we see in this movie, you're starting to understand that they
can get away with doing bad things, and so things are pretty bad.
I like seeing the practical effects of a lot of stuff, just theyuh,
the car explosions and just that kind of stuff. The chases are pretty interesting
and pretty cool, and I do think, like you mentioned already, Trevi's
just that jump between this start and then where we get to with Tom Hardy's
character is absolutely crazy. But it's so cool that that is in the same
universe essentially, and I'm excited to kind of go through this whole journey and
kind of get to learn more about him and going through his exile and just
see how things kind of transition for this character because it's such a dynamic change
up of scenery for him. But all in all, there are some very
funny moments that I think some of the storytelling was really really bad explaining certain
things, especially trying to get us to know our main character. But yeah,
I definitely revisit again and would watch it in the future. So I
think that the world is just it's interesting, and I think that they captured
a very interesting part of Well you can't hear my daughter screaming in the back.
Oh yeah, okay, she loved mad Max. Yeah they're on Thunderdome
right now, They're on Thunderdome. Yeah. I like the concept of this
movie portraying and not jumping to the apocalypse right away, but just showing this
state because I feel like this is a very real state where governments have their
hands on everything, and if you lose that control to a larger degree like
they have in Mad Max, then you see things crumble and you see how
people change, and some people are kind of good, but other people are
just They turn into these crazy biker gangs where they all park their bikes and
the leader gets off and his goons are like combing his hair and like dancing
in the street together. Waltz saying like, I don't feel like that's too
far fetched by any means. I think that that's a very realistic scenario because
people are fucked. So so yeah, there's pre geek first life part of
a gang. Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's interesting because, like
I said, it's from where we go to here. It's a journey.
And so for Mad Max, I I think I've seen these films all,
like, okay, i've seen them now I'm talking about like kind of overall.
I'd seen them all, but I feel like it was like a it's
on Spike TV, and I've seen a bit of it here and there,
Like I don't think I had fully sat and watched them all until Fury Road
and I'd watched them again, and I had that same kind of feeling the
first time where I was like, eh, I don't know, this is
a bad movie. But it's not like it is one of those way this
feels dated. This feels very dated. There's some things there. It's loud
at times, there's a lot of audio to meet issues at times, even
with characters speaking, where it's like, okay, they've clearly re record these
lines, and just just like a lot of a lot of things happen,
but a lot of things don't happen at all at the same time. It's
it's a weird movie. And then so I've only seen it I'll say three
times, because I probably once I was younger. Second watch them now this
one, and I do enjoy it more. But I think it's because I
just was prepped for what was happening, because it is just like a revenge
tale, but it's I don't know, it's like a shortened one because it's
almost like the first act the end. The third act of this movie is
like the first act of John Wick. And then the movie just ends.
Though you know it's like, oh, you're it's like, you know,
you said, Kirkle, what you're expecting help me to be the third act
and it's odd that, like I would love to see this not knowing there
was a franchise. When you watch, Okay, I guess this is like
it's like, you know, it's like almost like a superhero orgin movie,
Like it's just the setup and now you're gonna get like two, three,
and four of him doing his like mad Max stuff, right, And it's
just odd. Though at the time you watch, it's like a soul it's
like, oh, this this was it. It was just this guy had
this life quit Samon got killed, he killed these people and that's it.
That like that that's the story, you know. So but at the same
time I understand as well too, when you're working with that budget. Maybe
that's the idea of why it is just such just kind of like it's almost
like a short film but extended, where lots of short films are like that,
where it's like it's a slice of life and the issue is solved right
away, and that's what this is, right. It's not like the he
has to go on this massive month long journey to take out all these guys.
He just finds them on the road and that's it, you know,
Like, and it's pretty it's pretty easy. It's almost like I should have
done this in the first place, you know, and you could have avoid
a lot of things. I get it, he's a cop, but yeah,
over like like like the same thing. It's more probably sequels like mel
Gibson's like fine in this, but he has like like it's a pretty it's
not a minor character. There's just not much with the character. He's a
silent kind of guy, right and the villains. I go back and forth
to like I do like for this world, but then I wouldn't be lying
if at times I just found him like annoying to watch, but like the
stunt stuff is really great, Like that's what you said, Like when you
watch it now when we've done some stuff, it's like and especially I only
have some stuff for trivia, but go read like some of these shots that
they had to what they had to do to pull off. This wasn't am
using their crane. This was like a guy's on the back of a bike
and sphearing for his life while he has a camera and he's just like hoping,
like I have a note of it. I'll probably just bring it up
right here that yeah, for one shot. Cinematographer A David Agabee. I
think it's how you say his name held the camera while he was a pastor
on motorcycle and they were going one hundred and ten miles per hour, where
Claude scene said, I knew we were risking our lives out there, And
that's what it's like. There's stuff where you can tell. And I think
all the cars stuff for for what they have the budget all looks great,
like the stunts everything, Like when you think about this being three hundred thousand,
it's like, that's some crisp stuff. And that's why too, because
a lot of stuff they fucking were out there risk it. They're doing stuff
that I will say, like I'm not doing that as filmmaker, and Jeronna
Crown, there is some stuff. There's definitely some stunts we did where we're
higher up, but like I ain't give me on a vehicle where it's like
this could be with three kids. No, yeah, exactly not nowadays,
Like I'm not. That's what happened. So it's a bold film, it's
a ballsy film, and they definitely they go for and that's where I agree
with Emily two. We were talking about this and we watched it and she's
like, yeah, you can watch them without me. It's like it is
not oddly but like there's it's fucking dark. It's a depressing ass movie too,
like it goes for the juggler, Like there's jokes of things like you
don't kill and people. If you haven't seen the movie, I guess go
watch it come back, but it seventy nine. It's like we're going to
talk about spoils just freezy, but it's just like what happened to his wife?
They kill the baby. There's rape in this movie. It's a fucking
dark, dark world where I feel like Mad Max Fear Road. When you
get to the new one, there's darkness too, but that's like it doesn't
have those elements. They're way more. I feel like just insinuated we're here.
There's just like people run around with private like their genitals are bloody.
It's just like it's it's not like a play. It's like I don't know
when I will rewatch this again. Like when me and Emily watched it last
year, it was just because we wanted to watch them all again in preparation
for this, and I don't maybe we weren't planning on doing the retro at
that point, but it's one of these work. I'm sure I was watches
again at some point, but there's not a need where like Fear Road,
that's we were like, oh, I'm gonna put on. That to me
is like a top fifty movie. This it's like you gotta be in a
mood, and it's hard for me ever be in this dark fucking mood to
want to watch this week, especially because I don't consider it like great.
I consider it like a good movie. I think, yeah, so it's
it's a tough watch though it's fucking no long at times. I feel like
the difference too, between this and Fury Road is like Fear Road, it
just feels like higher than life, like like it feels like a fantastic where
like there is I guess dark stuff happened in it, but it just feels
like a like a sci fi adventure almost as opposed to like it's yeah,
this feeling like very close to like even at the start, it's like a
few years from now, it's, oh god, this is like if COVID
was still bad and we're four years in, Like that's what it'd be like,
right, because like the streets are empty. There's only a few people
around in this movie. And that's why too. Uh, Like I'll throw
out against some trivia where man, they chose to make it in like a
poke poke, a PoCA poke Poka Pokemon. Yeah, this is make a
Pokemon movie like this post Bok lived in the Pokemon are just fucking like crazy
that I'll be in for that. But m it's it's funny when we get
to Fury Road and stuff like that. I feel like too, like this,
I guarantee this was like a Zack Snyder like when you look at the
BBS stuff that he wanted to do, like he wanted to get to that,
but uh, he made it post apocalyptic because of the budget they had
and they weren't many people around, and when the areas that were like just
like they found the film with sets that he never actually at first like rooted
that way and out as a plan. He just did that. He's like,
well, there's not many people around, so we should say it's like
close to post apocalyptic just to like cover for what's going on in here.
And it's funny how it kind of worked out in the long run because with
Fury Road and everything. But I think he just wrote, this is like
a cop thing. And that's the elements too that are really interesting, Like
I love I loved their actual outfits, Like it's weird to think, like,
Okay, this is what I a cop would be dressing like, but
it's like who knows, Like look at all the waves we've gone through,
like fashion or whatnot. So I love like the big shoulder pieces in the
leather and these cars that are cop cars but they're like like they're all upper
yeah. Like there's like again for the budget, like I love that it
wasn't the original plan and they're like, Okay, let's switch this and let's
do post apocalyptic. And obviously it wasn't like the day off they got the
Colts eight months before changed it, but it does. I I like it.
It's like we saw poor things last night, right, And with that,
it's like there's elements of it that feel very much in the past,
and then there's elements that are very futuristic and you're like where is this time,
Like where does it take place? It's all over the map, right,
and that's where this is. It's like, sure, there's stuff that
feels old, but then it also feels like there is stuff where it's like
the look or just a certain way things are done. It does stand out
where sometimes people say, oh, this in the future is supposed apocalypt You'
like, eh, it just feels like you guys are just it's our world.
And then it's like it went to shit, right. I like that
this is something evolved, something has happened, and so I appreciate that.
Where does the imagery stands out for me so percent? And like me just
I guess watching for Your Road and thinking about Mad Macuse, I just just
like assumed all these movies were very far from like the apocalyptic moment like years
after and like it's very few and far between. Maybe even this might even
be the first one that I've seen like like right after or like like not
really like a post of pocket. It's beginning stage, but yeah, like
a transition period. So that surprised me, and in hindsight, like it
is kind of interesting seeing that because it is an origin to the character but
also an origin to where the world's kind of going. Absolutely and this is
like the last remnants of those like there's like an ice cream shop that's just
still working like in this movie, like there's multiple things that it just it
doesn't feel like a post of apocalyptic world at all, and said, it
feels like those first few months of COVID where some stuff's open, some stuff's
not open. You have like a limit of people, you can go out,
you can be masked and stuff. And that's what I mean, Like
it's it'll be interesting when we watch them all. I feel like this one
works better now that there is other ones. But I would have loved to
see this not knowing their sequels as well too, because it's like it doesn't
work like almost like this feels like a prequel movie now days where we would
have got almost like fuck plan me apes, like that's where we're gonna do
that retro. But the new trilogy that starts with the like, oh,
this is kind of right before things go to shit and the monkeys take over,
right and this is like okay, it's like Ward war Oh my god,
today Road Warrior comes out and like, oh, people really like this
post apocalyptic car movie. Let's make a prequel about how did Max get here
and the world get here? But it it wasn't, you know, And
it's and that's where I feel like it's kind of like a short film,
because another thing I compared to it is like Saw or Saw. They made
a short film Saw and then they that grew and then that was kind of
like a mini origin. So it's it's a fascinating movie that that's still trucking
along and we're getting a new one in twenty twenty four, big budget,
big stars and stuff. It's just it's it's kind of wild that that's so
what that's eight So come on like in a couple of years, like fifty
year franchise. That's crazy. So yeah, so there you go. We
that's it. We're done, noing. But that was my over So my
overall is like I like it. I think there's aspects of it that's good.
There's aspects that they're not. It's it's one I definitely appreciate more,
but I don't turn back to it. But I kind of can see that,
especially in seventy nine, like of course there's some dark stuff coming out
there. I could see how this maybe would have taken a grasp on people
between how dark it is and just like the look of certain things, and
like Kurkin talk about too, it's just em that poster, like that's a
badass poster that gets you in the door and stuff and one hundred million back
in seventy nine, like I'll do the Yeah, I'll do the classic.
Yeah, I'll do the inflation, but uh, billion dollar budget? What
do you guys think about I'll start with you. What do you think about
Max as a character? He says cop. He's not actually a mute,
but he gets called that many times. He's a quiet individual, but abviously
he goes through quite a bit of things in this movie. What do you
think about Max as your lead? Did you care about you care? Did
I do his overall already? Or did I just fully black out? Okay,
Kirtland just fucking blacked He blacked out the originals everything gonna do that?
Sorry, sorry, carry on. I like it was a character. I
love the idea of him just being a cop, dealing with like a cop
and like post apocalyptic like transitioning period just sounds like the worst, like imaginable.
It's like it's like pre post Oh my gosh, this is hard all
it's Sunday morning. Yeah, I feel like that? Or what Kirkland like
his of your other copper nurse like doctor, Those to me have to be
like the three like and even though I wasn't in there, I still was
like working at the Interior Health. I was in that, Hey, we
don't know what COVID is. You still got to go to work though,
and that's why we did get paid compensated for a layer. But it's like,
fuck, you just have to go because you're like on those first line
defenses. And it's like, like I always think about that for Shay and
myself, it's like, man, what if this was just some fucking thing
where it just would have been like zombies And it's just like and hobviously people
did get sick and die. It's like we had we had to go to
work. Everyone else is like, oh, sit at home. We just
had to go out there because like, well, you guys work with hospitals,
so good luck. So yeah, I agreeed to tear a cop.
Those those type of jobs would be terrible in this situation. First responders.
Yeah, yeah, first responders. Yeah, I in retrospect now realizing that
because we talked about it earlier, like the Tom Hardy one is definitely like
in the vein of the Same universe, Like it's not like a it's not
like a full on remake like going back to like this origin story, and
that's what probably detract me from enjoying it. But I still love that Furry
Road movie. I would have loved to have seen like the Tom Hardy version
of him being a cop and just starting out and all that jazz. But
I think to fake Taylor get one of those programs and Mel Gibson and Fury
Road. I think someone's done a fake trailer of that with a DFA.
I guarantee you it's happened probably, But him in this movie, I enjoyed
it. I really did. You're right, like he's not giving a lot
of development. The biggest one of the biggest things that I thought was super
wild was just trying to like understand and learn more about his character and like,
okay, like you see, he's got a wife that he loves,
and he's got his home and whatnot. That's great. But then all of
a sudden, like the middle of the movie, they just pop this kid
into the picture because like the I don't know if they mentioned it earlier and
I overlooked it, but like when he's getting the tire shop done and the
window comes down there's a baby, I'm like, holy fuck, he's got
a kid. You do see the kid earlier than that, I will see
I completely went over my head. But they like that first of all to
get the answer inflation. So the movie would have made four hundred and twenty
two million dollars, So that's that's pretty good, like for today's day.
Agent especially on that budget too, a studio would fucking kill because let's see
what a three hundred thousand is for a high ball. So yeah, so
a studio would kill fist. The budget would have been one point two million
and made four hundred and twenty million. Studios would fucking die for that right
now. So that's why you got all these movies. But that kid,
it's weird because don't you remember the Saxophone Part two, one of the first
when the first times they're at home, it's so random. I always forget
about it. It's like mad Max is like like he's like chilling his bed,
and all of a sudden, his wife just going it's landa like just
going fucking on this sack. Like he's in the bed, she's sacking.
The kid is like over there playing like it's before he leaves to work,
so you might have missed it. He like kisses the kid goodbye, or
like rubs the kid's head or something like that. So yeah, but in
the sack because that saxophone is fucking loud. This movie like I've ever seen
in theaters. I remember Sbub's last year saw it, and I saw his
letterbox review. I don't know if he saw in theaters, but just like,
I could not imagine this movie in theaters because that sax would have fucking
just like my ears would bleed because she's going hard. Never refer back to
but that kid. I feel like he comes in and out of this movie,
like where the fuck was he when Mad Max and his wife were just
fucking that field, you know, like they weren't at the destination yet where
they met the older lady and the guy who was like that's very outdated,
the mentally challenged person that like, I'm so glad we're over the day and
age where just an actor that sticks his tongue out. It's like, oh,
you know he has down syndromes, like when you look at that stuff
and they're like, fuck, this just does not age well. But it's
like before they get there, they just make multiple detours where the kids just
asleep. I guess and they're fucking There's a one moment where they show her
driving away from the bikers. The kid is in no car. See,
he's just in the trunk like Woody and Toy story at one like whoa like
like like I get like the baby to me is at in here just so
they can kill a baby and get the dramatic stuff at the end because it's
all over the mat when the baby's in and out of this movie. They
kept taking it to daycare because that's one of the things that's still running in
this Yeah, of course take care. Yeah that's that's one. Yeah,
fuck Kirkland. Your thoughts on mister Max. I know it is mister Max.
Yeah, I can't. I always fuck with the last name. So
I'm gonna try to like Max trachow Ski, Skier whatever you say. So
it's just Max on IMDb. So I'm just gonna ren is Max Max.
He has a last name because they say it. It's like t r U
d ex Max was Awski didn't father last night. Yeah, this is another
one that because I just knew, like I guess, Like the thing with
mel Gibson is like I don't really have have like a lot of core like
performances from him that like past your era, I think so or like because
did you want Lethal Weapon? Was that any see? Those? Those went
over my head, like I never saw those? What woman want? That
was a big one for him. I think I saw that, but like
not really, And I think that's the com one, right, Yeah.
I think he's a bunch of action movies where it's like Gleam Like I feel
like he had a Liam Neeson run where he had five years of doing a
bunch of just like taking type movies. Yeah, it's like the Eraser or
some shit like that, like and then I'm trying to think what else I
know? Break Yeah, that's the other big one for that. And then
his directing stuff. He did Pasture the Christ and he did Apocalypto. We
talked about that a couple of weeks ago. He did uh fact saw Ridge.
So have you seen all those movies he directed? I never saw Hack
Saw Ridge. He saw Passionate of the Christ. I did, yeah,
when I was way too young probably to watch it was Adu of course,
like the one movie she has so SI might have just not been in like
that because it's like he it's like late seventies early eighties, and that I
have a couple of black spots like that too, like and same thing like
the Lethal Weapon movies that I've watched, like but I don't return. It's
it's like Ghostbusters, like it's not a franchise that I'm like, fuck,
I'm in love with and now stuff like yeah, you're pulling us up like
fat Man Day Home two like Dad Home twos off of seemed but like I
don't watch a lot of stuff now because like I don't care. I still
feel like he's like he did six forgot. Oh yeah, okay, that's
fine, that's probably like the main one. Yeah, but he's like a
let's just call it. He said like a lot of racist stuf in the
past. So that kind of made me like almost not want to go and
like delve into his filmography level he was the main chicken and he got replaced
for the sequel like that, Yeah, but he got replaced and then but
I forgot he's in pokemonas it's like the love interest guy. So but he
was at one point Matt, he met mad Max. He wants people's like
sexiest man here. At one point he was the top shit. He's got
it, like he's got the look, especially he's young, Like I could
definitely understand him being like that eighties action star. But like, I think
it's because I just don't have really attachment to like the titles. I've known
of the mel Gibson name for like performances wise as well as his controversial stuff.
But like I think I was just expecting a little bit more here.
You you're already kind of touch upon it. Like Max in this movie is
just kind of silent, doesn't really do a whole lot, even when he
is like at the end kicking ass. Like I can just I could probably
make a list, you know, with time, not right on the spot
here, like ten ten actors that could just like do so much more with
with the action sequences, whether it's their their actual performance with holding a gun
or whatnot, or just their facial reactions. Like he just kind of seems,
I don't know, might be too harsh but dirty in like some of
those moments, like he's just not very yeah, yeah for sure. And
I guess it's maybe the emotion. I think, like when he loses his
whole family, like it's just the he hasn't moved in hours because I was
expecting more. Again when he thays zoom out and he's just like he's just
zoned out. But again and again, that's some interesting when we talk about
the other ones, it kind of works going forward because I think it just
makes him almost like a like a terminator now, like it's just like,
yeah, he's just here to kill and everything. But it's just weird again,
like all that progression is in the very last twenty minutes of the movie
and then it's over. You know, it's not an overtime thing. And
even like I guess I kind of like because his arc is he's a cop
trying to do good. He loses his best friend, his friend gets fucking
charcoaled, and that makes him decide, Okay, I'm gonna be with my
family and we're not dumb. We get the arc. But he never like
talks about that. He just like I'm quitting, I'm done, Like he
never like they didn't even have a scene where he's with his wife reflecting about
being a cop and about his partner. Like once I think when like with
his wife, he's talking like just the little isms that his partner would do,
like just yeah, talking about that he missed him. And sure there's
one part too where he brought up some stuff with his dad and like losing
his dad and he realized. But it's just it's very I feel like it
all just kind of gets like one line and it's like they did it,
but it just I guess it just feels very I wish when he lost his
friend there was more time with just Max maybe of him coming to that conclusion
but lost his friend and then he comes to his boss who just has a
neck tie but he's naked. It's very odd situations like I'm done, I'm
quitting. You'll never quit, like I quit and he quits, and they're
just like they're a road tripping. I don't know what they're doing for money,
but they're just like living life. They're getting ice scream. It's just
but you know, it's it's it's a weird. It's a weird character.
It is a weird character. And I'm definitely excited to see how he evolves
moving forward to the next few movies. If he just gets madder and more
badass. I'm hoping so, because uh yeah, I just felt like I
was part of me missing out on some of that in this first movie.
So kind of underwhelmed across the board. I think for this one, like
the movie as well as the performance of mad Max, and uh yeah he
sure looks he sure looks young in this film. Oh yeah, he's in
this one. And this is the one that definitely one of the ones that
kind of started to put him on the map obviously. So I will say
though, I was kind of shocked that he had like the Aussie accent in
here, because yeah, I always think that, like man, Americans just
cannot do Australian accents, and you know, he doesn't sound like a natural
Australian, but like at least he he didn't sound super fake at certain moments.
I had to work on a few a few words too though, Right,
it's so stylogue, got I just got to hit these five sentences of
Golden you know, yeah you're gonna say something before Oh yeah, yeah you
can just go you don't know, it's eight years. Yeah. It seems
so disheartening to just be in this world and think like, yeah, I'm
gonna like raise a kid and don't do it. Yeah. I've always thought,
like in The Walking Down when they get pregnant, be like, what
are we doing? Here, well, like even yeah, it's it's it's
not mad Max level, it's not walking dead level. But even like in
today's age when I go on like Clona now and they're like there's news articles
like, yeah, you know what the next twenty years Western uh kind should
be prepping for a full on war, you know, industrial scale and everything
with us on Colowna now now, yeah, you need just send me this
article that's on Colonna saying like in twenty years, we're gonna be the mad
Max in twenty years, Like it was just like not mad Max level,
but just war with like other countries them like and it's sucks, like Western
Canada versus Eastern Canada or North versus South perhaps South Canada. Yeah, fuck
those South Canada people. You know, I'll go to I'll go to Trudeau
says you gotta go to war South Canada. I'm fucking well, that's how
the war. Yeah, I'm like, fuck, are taking you down?
I'm dropping. Well. Between this and Appenheimer last year, it's like like
and that is like not to get on this level. That is a scary
thing where we the world is actually like only a couple of nukes away from
being like catastrophe, right, and that is always a scary thing. But
at the same time, like I feel like after nine to eleven there's probably
similar articles of like we're all fucks. So it's like I feel like this
happens every once in a while. Probably it just sucks more because five,
I think, you know this morning and this is number one, Civilians,
industry must prepare for it all at war, NATAL official war like Monday morning
when they drop that, just like get you ready to go to work.
Yeah, it's like eight am Monday morning. Western we not take us off
to from a Western country should prepare their societies for an all war with Russia
within the next twenty years, and senior NATAL officials warn Adamal Rob Brower says
countries should be looking at their industrial base to ensure that they can produce weapons
while considering how entire populations could be mobilized to fight a war. But again,
it's just like it's still like a worst case scenario article. It's a
prediction. Art Absolutely leaders change and that could be like action coming up and
what But even then, I too, wow, subtle, subtle, go
vote go vote, yeah, don't don't vote for Sue, you know,
he's like Kirklam's work people, But no, I thinkau has I think he
has one more run them Unfortunately, if you're going the other way, I
think, you know, no, no, I I think that's one war.
I think got one more and then likes one more term. I think
I think he's gonna because the voting wasn't too like he won last time,
but it wasn't so overly where it's like I think, because that's usually what
happens is they go that's what I'm with Harper, right, Harper for years
when was like, oh, this is the year, but it always go
like down another five and then another five. Politics. I'm getting depressed already
anyways. But the point is like even just stuff in general, like with
global warming and stuff, and that's where you know all that. But yeah,
raising a kid, it's like it's a But that's where I think I
wish they'd hit on that more. Where the kid is just as we talk
about around it's just like a It's just I don't know, it's just it
has the impact because yeah, like it has an impact. I feel like
they do a good job of when those bikers come at the end, it
does to me that is intense, and it does. I think they do
a good job of billing that suspense, like, oh fuck, this is
gonna go really bad and this is gonna be awful. Like the shot of
like the like the baby ball and like the shoe on the ground, like
that was such a like a good shot, like the bikers going and for
a brief moment, I'm like, hey, there's no way to actually kill
the baby, like they probably took out the mom and then grabbed the baby
or something once sweep and then that's gonna be like Mel Gibson trying to track
down his baby. Like at the end, I didn't see the run time.
I think that was literally like the last ten minutes like when that scene
happens. But then yeah, he's like running down the road and then you
just see like the mom there and then like the little the little uh the
little baby body there. I was just I was shocked, especially you know
the other show we're gonna be talking about today, like that was very similar.
Lot of kids dying and I'm like, man, this is such a
sad endia and like, yeah, she survives, but it's not like in
a good way. She's missing a leg and arm, her face is fucked
up, like it's like she's alive, and it's like that's especially in this
world, Like what support are you gonna get when you're that disabled? You
know, not even that support from Max like he just left all he was
out. Yeah. Yeah, I like that moment was intense, But I
feel like the overall consequence of having like a very vulnerable child with you like
in this in this fucked up world already, like it didn't feel like that
throughout the whole movie. Yeah, I mean, like we're already talking about
it, Like it seems like the baby just kind of pops in and out
throughout the movie, and it I don't like that's a big because, like
you already mentioned whether it's The Walking Dead or I can't remember if there's like
a baby in the Last of Us. But like those sort of like politic
that, yeah, like situations like babies or even just like Young'in's are just
they feel like such a big variable in those moments of like a major because
yeah, you want to you want to keep the child safe, but like
there's so much danger out there, even just for the adults, and then
you bring in this this this thing I was gonna say that this young and
that needs even more attention and care and it's like it has a lot of
consequence, but in this movie it just kind of fell a little bit flat
and short. And I think that's where at least because obviously George Miller done
lots of movies Happy Feet and Babe and stuff, but like with these Mad
Max one, Happy Feet, Babe grow, Yeah, he took a weird
he's too pig. He is such an interesting I only he did Babe too,
but he has such an interesting career that he did Mad Max and then
he did these like kid movies, and then in the middle of that he
was the one that was directing Justice League, I Mortal that got shut down
by the strike end by Nolan. But when they're making The Dark Knight,
he that was the one that like Adam Brody was the Flash and like oh,
like the Arnie Hammer was Batman like Day, which thank god, you
know, in retrospect, but like, he has such an interesting career.
But I think that's where it's like, Okay, not all but works.
But I think that shows he is still a great director, because like the
last act shouldn't work with I think how like iffy the movie is, but
that's where he pulls it off, like, hey, we've been Lucy goosey
with this baby. You don't know much about Max. We're just on vacation
mode because one bad thing happened and he left. But they still, to
me managined to make that last twenty five twenty minutes like it's ramping up,
be like, oh man, this feel. This is like bad stuff is
gonna happen here, and it's just the anticipation because like they show up,
but it's like that tire place and then they get away, and then they
show up at that house and then they get away, so you keep thinking
like, oh they're they're clear, and then every time it's like no,
they break down that door and then it's just the fucking and that that cut
to of like they drive by everybody, the old lady tries to shoot somebody,
doesn't happen and just put that cut off. She's running with the baby
and it's just a smash shot of the guy you like revs his engine real
fast and that's when the hit happens. Just like that's the editing on this
movie. I think two saves it a lot because when it's a car crashes,
races, fighting, whatever, and then those moments that's where it just
feels so like they build up to them getting killed, but with the actual
kill, it happens in a split second. It's not long and drawn off.
It's just literally you could blink and miss her getting hit and the baby
dying. But I think that kind of adds to it because like it was
this long build up, but this act one simple like five seconds can change
the course of everything, especially like for Maxcus. Now he's just gonna be
off the deep end. So that's where I think the third act kind of
like I won't say saves the movie, but like I think you leave you've
better with it because it's so well done, and it's just it ramp its
up because like a lot of like wives or kids can get killed, but
you have to like ramp up to it and do it in a certain way.
And it's so it's as like somebody like aspiring film or it's good to
say, okay, what are your what are certain ways to get this thing
done? You know? So mm hmm, yeah, that that moment when
the hit happens and then he goes to his old trunk, you know,
gets his old leather jacket on, and yeah, like I I feel like
in another you know, vary issue of this film, like you could definitely
have that whole sequence just happened in the beginning of the movie. Uh,
and then just have like the whole thing being him kicking ass. You know,
I haven't seen the other ones. I mean that's what the other movies
are, but uh, for the amount of like bonding time he has,
like with the child or like the wife, Like, I'm totally fine,
we just don't have any of that, and it's literally just like him with
her in the beginning. Have it already be like he's retired, and then
like that happens, and then he's just tracking them down and kicking ask her
out the whole film. I think that's probably the better version, But maybe
that would have been a lot harder to do on the budget that they had,
because you would have had to just do a lot more action sequences.
And you know, maybe I'm just pulling like a John Wick movie out of
this Mad Max franchise. Maybe it's a little bit unnecessary, but yeah,
I was a little bit let down that, like the last ten minutes was
where I was really at the edge of my seat waiting for him kick ass.
In that last ten minutes when he's going and kicking ass and going on
the hunt, I guess I feel like this This is one of the few
scenes that really just pulled me out of it when he finally gets like the
main bag guy, and the main bag guy just is like whatever. Here
he's heading straight onto an oncoming semi truck and the main bad guy. They
used the practical effects to make like his eyes pop out of his head like
kind of fear. That's rough cartoon, it's like that, but that's where
it's funny. It is, but it's it's weird because that would fit in
the Fury Road, Like we were talking about the more fantastic like sci fi
thing. So that's where it's like you can see the elements of Fury Road
here that I'm sure George Miller had no idea that he was ever gonna do
Fury Rope. But it's almost like the this is the way smaller budget of
that, right, and like that eye pop because you look at fear roll
like looking at those holds character, that character's fucking crazy, mother's milk,
like all that stuff. It's all really over the top. So that's where
the eyes. I agree with you that in this film it stands on every
time it happens. He's like, what a shot. But when you think
about where we go, it's like it kind of fits with like the filmmaker
he becomes. So I'm like, I'm at odds with it where it's just
like, but I agree with you, it's it's quite a bold shot to
do. So let's see here he talked about, I really like I forgot
the character's name. I really like his partner. What's his name there,
I'll pull it up. It's lend me of fucking uh. What's his name?
Billy Joel Billy. Yeah. Yeah, the look, the look for
sure. I think it's just like the eighties aesthetic with like the leather jackets
and stuff. Maybe just the Jim Goose but they just call him Goose.
But yeah, I really like Goose to the point of like, I feel
like, in the first half the movie, I'm more interested in Goose than
Max, and I guess that's supposed to happen. But because Goose is the
one where they arrest that guy, and of course something happens, so he
doesn't get to charge him and he's losing his mind and stuff, Like I
feel like he's definitely the like he's leading us towards the plot more and like
how you should feels a character because Max is like I'm sure he feels the
injustice, but he's pretty like calm about the situation like whatever, man,
like, well we'll figure out and stuff. But I really like goose terrible
way to go out, just handcuffed to a car and you know, some
on fire. We get that back later on. I wonder I'd love to
maybe, he said in an interview, I'd love to talk to Lewan al
Er James want about if they saw Max and that was ever the point where
like because he gives them the saw scenario right of like you can saw through
the chain out the token ten minutes where you saw through your foot that might
be five and you might get out alive. I just wonder one of them
somewhere watching at like twelve thirteen year old be like, oh, I'm gonna
do that one day myself. So which just like I had guess, I
guess he deserves it, you know, like I don't know he's It's tough
because it's like I don't know did he kill He didn't mean to kill Goose,
Like it's the character is some sort of on the spectrum, right,
and clearly the Biker game bad guys take advantage of this character and put him
in a certain direction. Even when he kills Goose, he didn't throw the
match. The main bat like shakes him and he drops it. Not that
Max cared and that's fine, I get it. This guy's also done like
he also sexually assaults them characters. But it's like the Biker's kind of forceome.
It's an odd It's every time I watch this, it's it's an odd
scenario where you have this character that I don't know how much he's being taken
advantage of, how much he's doing, but you know Max doesn't care at
that point because he fucks him up. And it's weird that he's also like
the final type of boss guy, Like it's not tok or they just take
token or the like. I almost would love to switch the scenarios where the
guy that is on the spectrum, he maybe just it's taken out because of
the road war and it's just maxiquing guys out. I feel like I would
have preferred toe Cutter to be the guy that's burning alive to death, and
I think he also deserved not a quick death either, because I like,
and what do you guys think about like the bikers, the villains, and
also just toe Cutter in general, because he's like the main villain. He
comes back later on in Fear Road. He's the guy that plays the like
I can't remember or more than Joe. He plays with the mask and everything.
Oh, I don't think it's the same character, but he comes back
to play that. So what do you guys think about him and the whole
gang, Because there's quite a bit of scenes, like with the fucking doll
where we're just with them for five minutes and they're like shooting the stall.
Like there's a couple detours we take just to hang out with these fucking Looney
Tunes type villains. I think it was I'm a little bit in the middle,
Like yeah, not like I don't want to say forgettable, because like
they are just very eccentric with like their outfits and everything and just their behavior
the people like crawling on the fucking rooftop, meowing at the uh A jests
I think is her name, So like for that aspect, they're kind of
memorable, and they also just kind of represent like the crazy biker post apocalyptic
gang that like obviously Fury Road just does that in like a whole like times
ten maybe times one hundred method when all the vehicles and just aesthetic that they
have to the characters, but like also just that type of character or archetype
maybe for a villain it's been transitioned to like the games like Fallout, or
just like any type of like post apocalyptic type faction where you have a collection
of crazy people wearing just just like they got funky glasses and just dressed weird
and super bizarre behaviors. So I don't know where that like type of character
really originated from. I would imagine it wouldn't have been too much earlier than
like something like this. So for that aspect, I kind of appreciate it.
But even just like toe Cutter, I definitely wanted to see a more
satisfying way that he went out because he is just such a piece of shit
character and usually you know, you want to see them go out in very
painful, burning alive type method, you know, not exactly, but something
more than just like a quick death. And then so yeah, for that
aspect, I think. I think because of the way he went out,
I like it less than or sorry. I like the character less just just
overall, and like even just on like the particular scenes, it wasn't as
scary as maybe some other characters that I that I would have expected him to
be, Like he just is kind of bizarre and then just just treats his
his little lackey's in the same way of like he's very like this godlike type
character in their eyes. Taylor mentioned like he takes his helmet off there,
like pett in his hair and everything. Not really my favorite type of villain,
but I think it's it's okay for what was done here. But because
of the way they he went out, I didn't love it as as much,
and honestly, it's just gonna become I think, a forgettable character at
the end of the day, especially even compared to Fear wrote like the main
villain of that movie is so much more memorable. It's kind of funny.
It's same guy. Yeah, you said, better actor. I don't think
it's I'm sure. I'm not sure. If there's like some theories out there
that if he got hit by the car and that's why I don't know if
there is something because I'm not that deep in the Mad Max lower. So
when we get to Fury what, I will look into it and see if
there was that or just Miller like like using that actor and it's like,
well, it's a different character. You're wearing a mask, and it's like
it's also years later, right, it's Tom Hardy, So it's like,
okay, s it is cool having like the main villain actor back for like
Fury Road and another big villain role. Yeah. Yeah, what about you,
Taylor, what you feel about toe cut in the Gang? Yeah,
I feel like his end was it was lackluster. I really thought too that
he had a lot more goons and we kind of just see him kind of
close out being hunted with like five people. But when he went to that
town, they're on vacation that day, a lot of them apparently. Yeah,
so that's his end was definitely anticlimactic. In comparison, I feel like
he definitely deserved the treatment that the other guy got U with the saw and
the handcuffed to the vehicle. I think that was much more fitting for toe
Cutter. But I guess it it is what it is I will not be
probably remembering him very well. I remember him as a more immorton Joe a
lot more than than toe Cutter for that same reason. But yeah, he
was just a very interesting I guess to a slight degree, just his motives
I read. I think he was like in the military before the fall they
call it. So m I don't know how much extra lord there is with
this character, though, Yeah, I got to find out, you know,
I like them and not like I think there's they're definitely just going for
is the villain. They're very bad, They're going to commit a very bad
act and you're gonna want to see it. Like I think the actors then
do a good enough job to make them feel like they're just gross people that
you want to see killed, right, And that's what happens. It's not
because it's it's hard when we talk about villains, like you have to give
them a point of view. It's like, well, if this character and
his team were going to kill a mother and child, there's no like Fano.
So it's like, well, for the greater good of the world,
it's like, no like that that you can't do with this type of villain.
It's like you just got to make them terrible. And I think there's
times where, like I said, the actor does do a good job of
making the guy feel slimy and gross and you just like you would not.
It does feel where if you were at the ice cream shop and these people
pulled up, I would not want to be in the scenario. It'd be
like, fuck, we gotta get out of here. And I think that's
because I've seen the movies where it doesn't play like that all where they're supposed
to be intimidating. I think some of the characters around him not so much,
because I think they make them almost overly too silly. So I get
it the way they're like those getting of characters, but sometimes it's like that
would have fit better. And like we said, maybe if you're road where
like there is like Nicholas w and other characters that are very over the top,
but they're going for that, so again it's like almost stuck in between
like what it is then what it will become in a way, you know,
so that they almost reminded me of is like Jack Nicholson, like when
he's the Joker in Batman. Yeah, like his goons, like the level
yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I like them they get the
job done. I wonder if it would have been better for a build up,
because it also just feels like they just kill them because it was like
an inconvenient She embarrassed him, right, she put the ice cream in his
face, kicked him in the nuts, and that was it. It's not
like Max left the force and he's been at from the whole time, So
maybe that could have been a bit better too. Of like the hand as
well. I mean that was he does off of like we'll trade you baby
for the hand or something. Yeah, But so that all happens at the
gas station. R. It has nothing to do with Max being on the
fours. This could have been anybody. It's just a coincidence that they bump
into Max again. So I almost would have preferred if they did some sort
of way that Yeah Max, maybe Goose Diyves mass killed one of those people,
and the whole movie they are trying to there's like some sense of urgency.
But it's just a coincidence that they were at the same you know,
shop at the same time, and that's why they met up with Max again,
you know, like he knows they're bad people, but they could have
been anybody that killed his family, you know, So it's just there.
You could have done, I think some more development with Max and the villains
there, maybe if you made a greater link between the two. Do you
think there's any proper reason as to why Max just leaves a photo of all
the victims in to catchers like helmet on his bike and then just leaves.
Doesn't doesn't like slash a tire, break the bike down to anything. He
just leaves the photos, Yeah, and also putting them alert to like,
yeah, it's an it's an odd I thought the same thing too, because
I'm like, so he was there at a bike, why did he not
teme out? Now, I guess the idea is he wants take him out
on the road because he has the advantage or something. I don't know,
like he feels gets advantage the ground arm run over. I'm gonna give the
guy a benefit of doubt that you know, he lost his child, his
wife's mangled. He he wasn't thinking, so he just I guess maybe he
just wanted to scare them the same way he him and his family were scared,
right, because if they just die, they just die. Right away.
So maybe he wanted it was a mental thing of like I want them
to feel the fear that I had. But I think there's other ways you
could do that out than the photos. But uh yeah, because what if
they got away and he's like, man, I had the chance again,
Yeah, I had the chance to get him. All I did is leave
photos in their hat and their helmets, you know, but it all worked
out something something that kind of triggered me. Maybe not maybe it's an extreme
word, but't get in here. You don't fucking believe this definitely broke try
to put on my screen. I think enjoyment of it is like this is
a dangerous world, you know, especially like mad Max has. He's been
on the force, He's dealt with like the worst of the worst. There
is at least two big moments when like he just lets his wife and the
kid or the dog just like yeah, you can go chill at the beach
alone, or like just wander go get ice cream through like a fucking haunted
wood. It was almost like like that was that was very far and I
feel like Jason was gonna pop up at any moment, and like it doesn't
feel like you know, Fury Road level of post apocalyptic world. But like
they've set it up that this is like society is not in a great place
that you can just go on like a private public beach venture alone. And
they just had this interaction with the stage too. It's not like they didn't
have it. And that's where it almost would be better if you made it
that they didn't know there and they don't know they're coming. But still it's
like mad Max, like he also he was a cop, so he should
know these people. Like that's what I mean. Yeah, they don't fuck
around, So like you've embarrassed them and gone away or did the wife just
not like full ex playing. That's a t because my fairitness when she pulled,
she's like Max, we gotta go what we gotta fucking go? Really,
we're just literally we gotta like my like I might ask once what once,
but if it's like this, say like you need to get in the
car, Max, it's just like at that door from like yeah but the
tire, like he's taking so long, scream yeah, get in the fucking
car. Dude. Again, we were in this world too. It's not
like a regular day. It's like you know, like this happens and he
takes so long, like fucking clue, and like, oh, we might
be in danger. So it's like hopefully she told the whole scenario. So
that decision was just just so annoying to me because like after the first time,
like going to get ice cream, I think that's sketchy. Like if
that's me and Shay and she's bringing Marco to we in ice cream, I'm
like, fuck that don't like I would like to be with you in those
moments. Yeah, But like it's not even like he's a regular Joe,
Like he's literally he knows that the worst, the worst are out there.
This is such a dangerous world. His friend, Look what happen to his
friend. That's why he quit the force. That bothered me. That bothered
me for sure, And just there's stuff too, like and I get it,
they have to do something. But when the bad guys get there and
they have the babe and the old lad pulls up the gun, she shoots
a gasoline barrel, and I get it's like a warning because she's caring.
Yeah, but like I get it because they do draw up the kid and
get like, imagine if that went just terrible, if you just show and
there was some explosion. You're just fucking like, sure you take them off,
but also took up the kid like I guess the kid died anyways.
I guess it wouldn't have mattered, but like it was just like it was
a bowl play and even then it was It's odd because the I'm gonna say
her son, I guess that has the special needs. It's weird where she's
like, oh, like, don't let him scary. He's just like a
childheard something. So they say that, but like you don't bump until him,
you don't bump into him till like she's already running away from the other
bad guy. So it's just felt like a week like that characters was not
needed at all, like just pluck pluck that, Like I would just love
to say, like why was it even there, Like why did you even
have to pay this actorate? Nothing happened, he didn't help, they didn't
kill him. He was just she was. He wasn't even like a red
airing because when they did the jump scare, like shit was already going down.
There's like dozens of guys on those beach, so it's not like u,
oh, she bumped into him and was scared. I don't know,
it was a it was a odd choice with that one, so like I
just wouldn't feel comfortably either leaving my wife and kid at the home while I
go out into the woods. And he went really really far into the woods,
especially because he didn't get he didn't connect with like where my son is
the sun. Was just alone out there the whole time, enough alone enough
that these bikers could snatch him and hide out where the barn was. So
yeah, yeah, makes some more decisions better in the sequel. Do you
guys have any other notes before I get into some trivia negative, I don't
think so. No, let's see. Oh sorry, sorry I remembered one
notes. Oh yeah, I got notes. It's just a quick one at
the beginning with the night rider, the guy and his girl, he's just
like high on something and he sees there's the kid that runs out into the
street just randomly out of the stroller, and he's just it cuts to a
close up with him like licking his lips and then make it think like he's
just gonna run his kidd Like I don't know, I think he might even
attended to like run them over. You might just missed it. Not a
good driver, you know, but some at least parallels or some insinuations to
wind what's gonna happen later on? Yeah, foreshadowing, So that mom too
must have been just shitting their pants just seeing that coming. And all right.
Most of the actors in this film were paid in beer, so there
you go. Nice. The gad jail free card that Goose gives the gifts
Striker was an onset joke because of the limited budget. The biker gang was
actually a biker gang, the Vigilantes or the Vigilants, and they had to
ride to set. Each stay in costume and often with their prop weapons displayed.
Since production company expected them to be pulled over by local police. Each
was given a letter explaining the film requirements, those asking law enforcements to understand
and cooperate. So just every day they're going to set bold play. Yeah,
so you expect me to believe that this letter is gonna get you out
of jail for you, they just fucking arrest all of them. Here's this
letter. Oh let's see. Oh I say I did have a couple of
notes too. Went after his friend died, there was a moment where Max
was in bed. He just woke up and they just like a hard zoom
in with a loud noise, and then he just like went back to bed.
It was just a wild thing. You're the thing you mentioned there that's
crazy, but just them using a real gang from the movie and went on
and like pang and beer and everything. Today, Madison was listening to a
podcast and they were talking about how a Rolling Stones concert back in oh when
was it It was nineteen sixty nine actually had I think it was either the
Hou's Angels or a biker gang they paid them, I think was I think
it was even with beer. I I don't know how they paid them,
but they were basically like the guards for the concert, like they were just
beating people up. People got murdered and died like it was bad. Yeah,
so it's that's not anymore. Yeah, I don't think out of Taylor
Joys being protected by the vigilantes anymore or whatever. And then I also mentioned
in the third act he there you talked about the eyes. One problem I
had is Win to our Yeah, toe Cutter sees Max, he like hisses
at him. He's like yeah, and that's it's like, this is the
time where it doesn't work for me, Like sometimes the old talk working as
them. It's like in that moment, I just want to believe, like
because I feel like they're trying to make him seem smarter than the other guys.
But in that one was like, oh, you're not so, but
you know something. George Miller raised money for Mad Max by working as an
emergency room doctor, and often he used a lot of the situations from there
as the you know, stuff like the burn victim, the loss of limbs
and stuff. So filming them like these real people you're gonna be in a
movie. Yeah. George Miller paid a truck driver fifty dollars two hundred and
two dollars in twenty twenty two UH to run over the bike in the final
scene. However, the truck driver didn't want to damage his rig, thus
the crew had to install a shield painted to look like the front of the
rig, so they had to pay him, and then they had to put
a fake reggae in front of his truck. So they just paid some random
truck driver to run over the bike. So it's just you'd think it's somebody
know. It's just like, I'd love to know how they found them like
just had a gas like, hey, you want to run over a bike
our patients? Yeah? Yeah, hey, while you're out of here.
The crew couldn't afford a bake breakaway prop door, so the actress had to
break through assaulid door set door at the end, which I it's funny because
they hit it once and a brick comes out. I'm like, this looks
really real, and yeah, it was just a real door. So because
of the tight budget, actual decommissioned police cars were used in the film.
Goose was wearing real leathers. All the other police officers were wearing vinyl costumes.
The motorcycles all later all late model demonstration units, so that all the
more circles the reason were just demos units I guess were donated. Many of
the bikers were kept them after the streating was complete, because I guess they
didn't there's they're just demo bikes and they're going to toss them after. So
they tried to get vehicles as much as cheaply as they could. Miller described
the whole experience as gorilla filmmaking, where the crew would close roads without filming
permits, not use walkie talkies because their frequency co incide with police radio.
After filming was dune, Hiller and producer I would even sweep down the road
still. As filming progressed, Victoria police became interested in the production, helping
the crew by closing out roads and sporting vehicles. So eventually the police just
joined them. You know. But see, there go Taylor. When we
were doing Adrenic Rome and we were in that area we weren't supposed to do,
we got fined. We're yeah, we're doing grill film. Like you
just gotta tell yourself that too. The greats have done shady things as well
when filming. We've not done anything. Well, I guess we did some
illegal. We didn't do anything but hurt something. It was just a sign
of like, don't go here, trouble. And you know, we had
to go there a couple of times, and Taylor was worried every single time.
Yeah, do you think people go around here and we did not get
in the same area. Yeah, we see multiple other people say's like fuck,
we could be in trouble. But yeah, we had to take some
risks. Let's see and here here it was where mither se in twenty fifteen
that it was not his intention when the script was written that was going to
be set in a post box world. This was done because they didn't have
the money for extras and properly maintained buildings. In order to cover for this
uh, the title card was added the benna explaining the story was set after
World War This also counts for why there's generally more of established a society in
this film than any of the sequels. So, like I said, it
just was kind of a last minute thing where it's like, well, let's,
uh, let's make this post apocalyptic. Oh yeah, Like I said,
this was the biggest uh. Often credit as the movie that opened to
the global market to Australian movies on its short shoestring budget, set a new
record for the most profitable independent film all time until Blair Witch Project came out
in nineteen ninety nine. Because I was saying this to Taylor Vertunnel was in
the car, let me just quickly check, like player Witch Project, that
had to be like, it's like a one hundred thousand, wasn't it the
budget? Even that, I'm surprised it's that really one hundred grand. I
feel like it it must have been less than this. It was two hundred
to seven one hundred and fifty thousand. Why why what one blair witch costs
so much money? They're using like a cam corder their salaries to pay themselves.
Fuck yeah, food budget, they're eating really good. Yeah jeez.
I mean there was just like cabin and then out in the woods of the
camp Quarner, right, that's it. Yeah, those tents must have got
really expensive in the nine the marketing budget, that's true. The market they
fucking marked the fuck out of that when Peele even thought it was hey things,
So yeah, they had to pay to hide the actors and yeah there
you go. So Kokan Pats, what are your foul thoughts? And a
rating on this bad boy? Yeah? So over yeah, overall, I
think I was a little bit let down just because I had, I don't
know, just preconceived notions of what was going to be going on. I
had big expectations for like this, this is this prime Gibson era, like
what's brazy? This kicks off, the this kicks off, the this is
this is up and comer Malkips I think I don't think. I think this
is like this makes a name for him Melkips, And I'm like, oh,
who's this guy? You know? Yeah, so I was excited for
his first appearance in Bad Max and a little bit let down for the performance.
A little bit let down from the movie. There's still some really great
stuff in here, especially just you know, of a filmmaking aspect and how
they work with the budget. All the action shots were really really fun to
see, and even just like this reoccurring theme of these like high octane like
car chase scenes. Obviously Fury Road is just like, you know, times
a million on that aspect, but it's just cool to see. Uh that
that done with the high the engines roaring, smashing through like buses and stuff
like all that was really great to see. Uh, it was so great.
I wanted more of it, and I think because there wasn't more of
it, it kind of brings my score down a little bit. Ah,
I should have thought more about my actual rating here. I think I think
like six and a half maybe out of ten. Yeah, like somewhere in
that range, not quite a seven. Just because there was a lot of
moments in here. I was just kind of checked out. I don't really
think I'll rewatch this unless I'm you know, with a friend or someone that
has never seen it really wants to. Maybe if I lose that argument,
throw it on, but we must watch Mad Max. There's a lot more
great films out there in either the post apocalyptic or even just in the the
high octane action sequence. So yeah, I don't know. It might fluctuate
in another viewing, positive or negative, but as of right now, I
think I'm okay with the six and a half. Yeah it's tough. I
feel like I'm gonna go just like a little bit about Kurg and be like
a six point seven five because I wanted to do a seven because just for
the filmmaking aspects and that stuff. But I've always said that I give a
seven for movies that maybe aren't the grace, but I know I'll still rewatch
from a bunch and I it's not that level. So like on a technical
level, maybe this sement on like my you know, viewership, what I
go as a moviegoer. It's it's just six point seven five. It's just
under that because yeah, I won't I don't know when I will watch this
again, because I guess I did that a couple years or last year or
something with Emily, and then I did it for this, it's just kind
of like, Okay, I think I've scratched that itch and there's not enough
great stuff in here to return to. But there's some interesting concepts, and
I'm you know, happy exis because obviously went to a different run. It
gets us without this, it gets us, doesn't get us a fear run
Fear road I love. So it's like this is like a good step in
the right direction. So yeah, that's where I am a six point seven
five, So I'm going to do a solid six point five. I could
rewatch this again for sure, but not in a rush too, it'd just
be down the road. Yeah. I think that there's there's definitely some weird
developmental things with some of our characters and and such, and some things that
weren't really expanded on. But at the end of the day, we learned
that it's just a gorilla film. With how they did certain things and how
they had to film certain things, that makes it very interesting to know and
gives it a little bit more I guess, forgiveness with how they had to
tackle it. Yeah, I mean it's not like that. It's not like
the movies we review. They're like one hundred million dollar budgets and they have
a bunch of these errors, like, oh, come on now that,
like I said, this is this movie's made for one point two million dollars
in our money, so yeah, yeah, so I give it some some
leeway there. But overall, I liked how they were able to do what
they did with the things that they had to I guess pull off and all
and all, it creates like a very interesting new franchise with its own unique
world and its own unique narrative that has spun off all these sequels that we're
going to get into. So I can really appreciate it for that. And
yeah, I just I'm excited to see where this is going to go to
the sequels because I know nothing about the sequels. I know that he goes
through some kind of exile, that's what I read, but I don't I
don't know anything that's going on aside from Fury Road. That's the only other
one I've seen. Oh there we go. Sorry for the big yawn still
early here, but yeah, there we go. We've done it, mad
Max. This is the kickoff, so next will be the Road Warrior,
often kind of highlight before Fury Road is the highlight of the series. So
it's been a good man since I've seen that. So uh yeah, we
will be back. Hope you enjoyed, let us know what you thought about
Mad Max, any questions going forward, and yeah, when you hear FROMS
next, it'll not be boring. Bye bye,