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Weird things happened in the Weird,
Weird Weird. Welcome to Bledsoe said,

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so episode one three, this is
a special episode. We are joined by

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my brother, Chris Bledsoe Junior,
I almost a senior. How you doing,

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Chris? Doing great? Man,
I'm happy to be here, like,

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yeah, you look, you look. I love your outfit. Thank

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you, dude. I'll work just
for you. The hat and the shirts

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looking flat spaced out, just so
y'all you know, so you can all

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see it. It's Bloodsoe said,
So merch Chris, Chris, uh.

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Every time I see him, ever, and we live two hours away,

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every time I see him, he's
repping. Oh yeah every day. Yeah,

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no matter where I go, I
don't care if we're in church,

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I don't care if we're in taj
Mahal. I'm wearing that shit. I

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love that. Well. We were
just talking about before the cameras rolled.

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It's been almost two years since your
episode came out. How do you feel

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about that? It's hard to believe
that much time has passed. Yeah,

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it feels like yesterday. It's wild. It's freaking sweet. I didn't realize

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it was two years. How's life
been since? Oh? Since the episode,

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it's been it's been good. It's
been a lot of ups and downs,

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but mostly good. It's exactly what
I needed. Yeah, it sounds

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cringey to say it kind of,
but I mean I needed it. It

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definitely helped good. Well in addition
to just your episode, but generally since

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the podcast came out, Like I
want to say, I asked Emily and

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Jeremy the same thing. But how
since since you know, we started going

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forward with thing, I mean,
haven't you noticed the change in our life?

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Oh? Yeah, big time?
Like in what way? Well,

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I mean I can only speak for
myself in the moment, how I feel.

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You know, there was back in
the day, I wasn't so open

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to everything. I'd get upset and
freak out and complain if anybody even brought

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the topic up. And since that
last episode, you know, and well,

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since the start of all of this, let's have said, so,

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I've gotten a tremendous amount of support
and it's just it's been good for me.

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It's helped me to open up.
I can talk about it now and

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that's kind of amazing. Yeah,
so it's helped me a lot, but

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it's also helped the rest of the
family too. It's brought us all back

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closer, and we've always been close, I guess you could say, but

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it's definitely brought us together even more. I think, Yeah, it's crazy

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when you hear that, or when
I hear that, because it's like,

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man, we were just recording and
putting it out there and had no clue

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it would have all that impact.
You know, Well, it's it's nice

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to see that, you know,
my family supports me, because at the

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end of the day, this was
it started off as me and Dad we

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had these sightings and and I didn't
know how that was going to go,

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and it pretty much went the way
I thought it would. I guess,

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you know, I knew that there
was going to be a lot of family

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that wasn't really accepting of what we
were talking about. But I see that

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the ones who matter accept me.
So that's been awesome. Yeah, and

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Dad, you know, yeah,
y'all got our backs. That's right.

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That's a good point too. Yeah, it's like the family that matters after

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all these years, have our back
And dude, I mean, you could

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tell them just as much as I
can. There's still people. It still

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this stick that knife in about PROD
and it's crazy. Yeah, they always

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have something to say, something negative
or whatever, but it is what it

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is. Yeah. Yeah, that's
been great though. So what was it

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like being on the set of the
History Channel. Oh, Man, tell

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me about it. I want to
hear all of the leagues different, like

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from the last episode that we did
that was you know, there were just

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two completely different feels. You mean
Discovery Channel. Let's talk about that,

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dude, Let's talk about Discovery and
History. Yeah, I mean it was

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so different. And in the Discovery
Channel show, they didn't even bring us

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lunch one day, like they took
our orders and then didn't even bring the

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lunch but brought everybody else's and ate
in front of our in front of us

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in our house, in our house. But the History Channel they took care

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of us. They were great,
you know, they were they were very

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supportive. There was no judgment coming
from them. I felt judgment from the

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Discovery Channel people. I mean it
was clear that some of them. I

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don't know, it was just different. The guys are nicer, easy to

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get along with. They were all
excited. We saw orbs on the freaking

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on the show, which which was
awesome and it changed a lot of people's

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lives. The camera guys. I
remember at one point the cameramen stopped what

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they were doing and the director asked
the cameraman like, so what do y'all

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think? And he turned the camera
on them and they were all just blown

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away. They're like, you know, we came here not really knowing what

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we're gonna find, but now we're
freaking believers. This is crazy. Yeah,

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that was was awesome. We didn't
get anything like that on the Discovery

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Channel. It was they put us
in a room and they asked us the

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same question a thousand times, with
a light detective thing on us, Like,

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that's just you feel the pressure,
right in a situation like that.

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They weren't there like, let's yeah, you know. They were like,

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you're a liar, You're a liar. It's crazy, right, But it

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was. It was great, man. The people were awesome. They were

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so great. I'm just thoroughly happy
with it. Good. I was real

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proud of you seeing that History Channel
episode. How did that feel seeing yourself?

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Oh? I was nervous as crap. Yeah, yeah, I was

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worried that. You know, my
episode that I did with y'all last I

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didn't watch that episode for almost a
year, just because I'm very critical of

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myself, you know, I'm my
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thing, I watched it as soon
as I could, like right away,

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and loved it. It was awesome. It was it was awesome. Yeah,

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it's super awesome. Yeah. I
may do something again with him one

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day. Yeah, maybe we'll see, right, might just might just happen.

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You never know, and might just
happened. Yeah, what do you

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think? What did you think about
all of it? I thought it was

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badass, man, it was.
Yeah. It was like because I watched

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the first three episodes of the season
because I was in anticipation of ours being

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the season finale, and I was
excited. So I was like day one

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watching episode one, and then week
two, and then week three, and

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week four comes around and I was
like, you know, I'm good.

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Honestly, I think I may have
watched one episode before ours, right,

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that's my point. And I was
like, Okay, well, maybe I'll

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just wait till our episode. I
just wasn't hooked, you know, I

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mean, nothing was really happening,
and we knew that when they came to

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record we were the last episode and
they were like, we haven't really Yeah,

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you know, it's sensational, you
know, like and then when our

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episode came on, I was just
blown away. I mean you could tell

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that they dumped like more of the
budget to make it a higher tier of

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production. I mean compared to the
three or four previous episodes I had seen,

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it was on another level. They
certainly brought the gear with them.

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Yeah, they had some expensive equipment
like that UFO Dad. That thing was

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awesome. Yeah. If I could
be mistaken, I'm not a big tech

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guy, but I think they said
that thing was linked to a supercomputer.

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Yeah, and it was. It
was an AI program cross reference linked to

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a super Maybe it wasn't a supercomputer, but it doesn't matter. It was

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linked to every flight database in the
world. I mean they explained it on

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the show and it was crazy.
It was. It was pretty cool.

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But beyond the gear, dude,
the editing of the episode. If you

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go when you watch episode one or
two through seven and then you watch our

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episode, it was like a completely
different show. Yeah, Like definitely the

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music, you know, the composing, the editing, the storytelling. I

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mean, they really went all out, and I was very proud for one

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of you and Dad. And then
for two of the History Channel. I

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know that sounds weird, but for
not screwing us over. Yeah, I

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was definitely worried before before I watched
it. I was wondering what they put

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in of me, like what,
you know, what was I going to

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say? I couldn't remember. I
was terrified, nervous as crap, but

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it all, it all panned out. Yeah. I was definitely proud of

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myself. For sure. You might
not have caught this, but my voice

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was in it. Really. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember

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that, but I did try hard
to get get BLOODSOE said, so on

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it, I know remember that,
Alex, Well you're not you're not here

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with us today. Yeah. We
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here in Wilmington and Dad was here
and you were home. So me and

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Alex watched it with Dad and we
were freaking out. I was laughing,

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dude, because I saw I knew
you had warn the hat and it was

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blurred and it was just like,
come on, I know, but the

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paperwork I know I did, but
we tried. Yeah that's okay, you

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can totally tell it was our hat
too. They like they didn't blur it

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all the way. Yeah. Yeah, they wanted me to wear a car

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heart beanie. I don't like beanies. I wear them like once a year.

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Maybe if I don't have a hat
to grab, right, I would

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have liked an idiot with that beanie
on. So I had to rip my

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brother's stuff, you know, right, I appreciate it. Yeah. What

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was it like right down the boat? It was very cold. I came

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way underprepared. I don't know what
I was thinking. I just brought one

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little jacket and I was freezing due. It was Jane, Yeah, it

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was. And we stayed all night
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We came home, I don't I
think like one o'clock, twelve to one

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o'clock in the morning. Yeah,
damn. Stayed out there pretty late.

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And it was like thirty degrees.
That's crazy. Yeah, you can't really

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tell from the video, but it
was brutal. Didn't you' all do?

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Like ten miles up and down the
Cape River something like that? Yeah,

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seeing orbs and you know I had
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Yep, that's cool. Was that
kind of crazy cool? Yeah? They

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were flying at nighttime with a drone. Yeah. I thought that was pretty

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cool. That's wild, dude.
How about the book? Man? How

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about so the book. Let's see
we recorded in January of last year,

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and obviously it goes without saying my
voice was in the show. I recorded

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with them too, Emily recorded with
them too. We just didn't make the

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cut. That's another thing I was
proud of because that episode focused on you

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and Dad and it was like the
Discovery Channel thing came full circle. The

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crappy one from the past where they
tried to smear you guys was dwarfed by

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the History Channel one. It was
a hit piece for sure. Yeah,

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but then it was like you and
Dad got your spotlight that it was like

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righting the wrongs of the past.
I felt like I was glad, I

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was cut. I was very relieved. And how crazy is it? We

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got freaking orbs on the on the
History Channel. That's nuts. I might

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just have to go do it again. Yeah, well we will. It's

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the opportunity are sooner than they think. But what about the book, man,

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So we recorded in January, then
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How do you feel about the reception
of the book? Oh? Man,

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I thought it was great. I
really enjoyed it. I haven't read

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it, but I listened to it, right, you know, I got

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count audible. Yeah, yeah,
kind of. It's worth it. I'm

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a very busy guy and got kids, and also it's hard for me to

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sit down and read. But it
was awesome. I was surprised to see

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that I was in it as much
as I was, because I was in

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it quite a lot. It was. It was tough. I definitely got

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you know, it pulled at my
heart string, yeah, for sure,

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But it was freaking awesome. They
did a killer job writing that book.

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Yeah, I did a killer job. And it's been well received. It

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seems from the rest of the world. A lot of people seem to like

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it. It's like a it's like
a basically an Amazon bestseller. Yeah.

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I think it was a bestseller in
multiple categories. For some time. Dad

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was explaining to me, dude,
out of thirty million plus books on Amazon,

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it was in the top three hundred
of all books. Wow, that's

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wild. It's crazy. It's crazy
to me to see all the things that

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are happening in our lives, you
know, coming from somebody who was shamed

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and suppressed, tortured by the rest
of the community, all the people that

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I looked up to when I was
a kid, my favorite people that I

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idolized. I wanted to be just
like this person. I had several of

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them. I'm not going to name
them, but all those it seems like

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most of those people tortured me the
worst, right because of the UFO thing.

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You know, it's demonic and you
know you should be talking about stuff

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like that. It's not real,
you know, you're not. You had

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to have been on drugs or I
just I got so much judgment, different

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things from everybody, and that was
terrible. That's brutal. Yeah, I

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don't care who you are. You
know, when somebody that you love brings

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you down, talks down to you, that shit bothers you. But it

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feels like the book and the History
Channel and all has kind of right,

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right that right, it's it's it's
helped a lot. Yeah, it's come

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full circles vindicated me in a way. You don't feel like you have to

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explain yourself anymore, defend yourself,
and I never really did anyway. I

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just it is what it is.
I saw it, and that's what it

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is, right. But I feel
like that's all was supposed to happen.

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It was a part of our story. I didn't see it that way before.

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I was very very upset. I
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to talk about it. Now it's
all I want to talk about. It's

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crazy. Yeah, So how do
you see it? You said you didn't

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see it that way before. How
do you see it now? Our story?

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Oh, I mean it's I love
it. I didn't always, but

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I do know. I realized it's
it's an important story and it's my story.

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So I've accepted it. Good.
Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot

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of people out there that don't know
me, and they don't really they didn't

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really see what I went through.
But how did it? How did it

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look from your perspective? You know
me? How how I received all those

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years ago? What do you think, like, how would you explain that?

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Well? When I was a child, like from the ages of thirteen

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to eighteen, I was jealous in
the sense that I mean, I didn't

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understand I was a child and I
hated it, right, So just imagine,

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I mean, I this is kind
of one of my major encounters.

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But I don't know if you know
this story. Actually, do you want

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to hear it with the cow.
You do know that one? Yeah?

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Okay, dude, I've listened to
every almost every episode that's raight. You

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know every story I've ever told.
Yeah, I forgot about that, but

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I was always like that. You
know, he didn't even want to be

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there. And here I am coming
out with you every night and I'm not

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seeing what he saw. What gives
And He's like, you need to freaking

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humble yourself. You know. I
didn't want to see it, right,

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and I did. It's crazy because
I thought I did. I did,

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but I didn't know. I didn't
really know. Do you want to say?

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What you say? We'll leave that
to Derek for Derek to explain,

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Okay, on his episode, he
can explain it. Okay, you know

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what I was getting at? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was.

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It was crazy. Wow. Do
you remember when we were little kids,

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when we lived in our second Gates
fourhouse, and me and you and Jeremy

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would sit around and be like,
what would you ask God if you were

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dead and you were talking to him? Do you remember what you used to

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say? I would ask God if
aliens are real? Really? Yeah?

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Huh, I guess he answered,
if you careful what you asked? For

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right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely that'll make sense when we tell

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that story on a future episode with
Yeah yeah, with Derek. The thing

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that you said, But no,
it's crazy. That always seemed to be

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some crazy theme in our in our
childhood, like we were always fascinated by

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life out there and that that's subject. And I guess we got more than

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we bargained for. But crazy,
Yeah, I didn't know what I was

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asking for, right, I had
no clue how hard it would hit.

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It's you know, it's one thing
to just to see something, but all

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the emotions that come with it,
and all the people you know that come

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after you for telling it, that's
the stuff you don't see. Right,

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It's hard to understand. But it's
not all as easy and pretty as it

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seems. Do you get the sense
that it's all destiny in a way?

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Yeah? I do now. Yeah, But you didn't then, No,

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I didn't, No, dude,
I was I was a kid. I

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was a little kid, seventeen year
old kid, and I was petrified.

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Couldn't sleep with the light with the
light off for many years because of this.

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Yeah, And I mean I'm the
kid that would do massive jump on

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a four wheeler I would jump out
of an airplane if if I had the

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chance, or go hunting in the
woods in a scuba divor. Yeah,

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I'll go and shoot a black bear
that's standing up in front of my face

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and feel and and and I don't
feel anything, you know, I don't

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feel fear. Fear, Yeah,
but that that that stuff will scare you

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to your core. And just yeah, that's not the same kid that sleeps

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with the light on, right,
It's crazy. Yeah, I couldn't imagine.

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Man, Like, I'm kind of
lucky in a sense because you saw

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all this stuff and I mean,
I hate to say it, but call

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it what it is. You were
basically traumatized. Yeah, and then I

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can see that, Yeah, and
then us hearing about it, you know,

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I never really had that fear,
So I just remember being, you

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know, after the experience hearing about
it from you and Dad, I just

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rememb going out and walking into the
woods to night and hoping to see it.

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I never would and I never would, and I mean I would.

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I would see orbs in the sky, but never you know, entities in

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the forest or whatever like you did. I mean, I've ended up seeing

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stuff like that, but not back
then. Time you wanted at that time,

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I was desperate. Yeah, that's
that's what I mean when I say

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I was jealous, like I really
wanted to see what you saw. And

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I mean, I've seen close enough, but you know, And then talk

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about full circle. What about January
eighth of this year? What happened?

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Yeah? Man, that was wild. So on January eighth, I was

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doing a job. For all those
that are listening, I do construction just

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like my father he taught me,
and I've been doing it a long time

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since I was sixteen, and I
manage a small business kind of. And

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I happened to be working on Marsh
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that that spot on the river is
on, on January eighth, which is

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it was my seventeenth year anniversary,
I believe, Is that right? Yeah,

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seventeen years and you were seventeen when
it happened. Then I was seventeen

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when it happened. Yeah, So
me and Derek and I think there was

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another guy there. I think,
yeah, we had one more guy there

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and we were outside cleaning or cut
material or whatever. And I realized that

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it was that day, and I
realized that I was on that same road

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in that same spot on that same
day, and something just told me to

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look up, and I did,
and there was an ORB in the daytime

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flying. So I whipped my phone
out and I took a video of it.

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But I just I really thought that
it was crazy that seventeen years later,

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exactly to the day, same day, in the daytime, in the

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same location, in the same location, technically, I saw another one and

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recorded it. Yeah. Crazy,
Wow, What is the chances of that

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all that to just line up?
That can't be for nothing. It's got

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to It was supposed to happen,
right, Maybe not, Maybe it was

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all just coincidence. I don't know, but it didn't feel that way.

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Yeah, that's pretty crazy that things
lined up for that to happen. Dad

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says, you have a unique gift
that we all have. You see him

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in the day. Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know that that's

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a gift, but it just happened. That happens a lot. I've recorded

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quite a few in the day in
the last couple of years, right,

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And it's not always me who sees
it the first time. One time Vincent

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saw it first. We were all
in the in the backyard, sitting on

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the on the swing pushing the baby. And then so it was like,

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what is that and pointed up at
this thing in the sky and just I

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didn't think about this until now,
but just like January eighth, there was

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an airplane flying at the same time
as this object. An object clearly has

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no wings. It just it looks
like a little tic tac kind of like

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a bright light. Yeah, I
saw a light in the daytime. It's

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and you can tell it's not a
craft. Yeah, it's not an airplane.

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Shine a light, yeah, And
an airplane flies by in the footage,

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so you can clearly see this is
an airplane. This is something else.

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Both videos, wow, which is
awesome. Context. Yeah, I

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don't see them a whole lot in
the day. I'll be honest, when

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I'm out in the day every day. So there's a lot of people out

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in the day every day, all
over the world, every day looking up.

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I'm saying that you'd probably see them
in the day too, but you're

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not out in the day looking up
like me. Right, I'm out there

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every day. I mean that could
be the case, could be I don't

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know. Or my thought was I
do have a gift. Yeah, my

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thought was they appear to you that
way to be disarming. So I'm not

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petrified. Yeah, possibly, you
know what's crazy, I really don't get

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that freaked out anymore like I used
to. I do sometimes, you know,

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if I'm like alone in the dark
and I hear a bump and you

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know, or I can I see
something out, maybe I'll start a freaking

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out. And I'll sometimes freak myself
out more than other times. But for

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the most part, it doesn't really
bother me. If I'm outside and I'm

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by myself in the darkness and I
see an orb, I'm just like,

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Wow, cool, another one good, just like anybody else. What do

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you think it was that clicked in
your brain to where you weren't afraid anymore.

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That's kind of goes back to what
we were talking about earlier. All

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I know, all this the episode
I did with y'all, it's definitely helped

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a lot, tremendously. All of
it combined has helped me to talk about

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it easier. I mean, I
moved all over the country. I moved

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to Kalamazoo, California, all over
just trying to get away from family and

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UFOs and everything else. Is that
why you left? I wouldn't put it

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on that, you know, one
hundred percent. There was many reasons,

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but yeah, I hated it.
I hated it, you know. Me

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and Dad got into it a couple
of times, and it was all me.

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It wasn't really him getting it.
It was me. I would get

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anxiety when I when I would hear
aliens or the top, it would come

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up. I would be thinking about
the people were with and now it's got

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to be talked about. I don't
know this guy, and it's often when

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other people are around, you know, and being young, I was always

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worried what everybody thought. I was
worried about my appearance. I was young

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and wanted to build a reputation.
I was proud of my name and who

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I was, the family that I
was born into, you know, and

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then all that kind of like pushed
me down. I felt it diminished my

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reputation in town. And it did
well. I mean, they did kind

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of do that to you on TV. So it's pretty reasonable thing to be

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disappointed about. Yeah, so I
ran and hid and I went through some

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really dark times. But it's what
I needed to go through. I wouldn't

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change any of it. If I
did, I wouldn't have what I do

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now, I wouldn't have beautiful babies
and beautiful Jessica and you know, the

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business that I have and family that
supports me. Who knows what our lives

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would be like if it all didn't
happen. That's kind of I'll try to

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look at it. You realize ninety
nine percent of the world has not been

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smeared on TV, right, Yeah, yeah, I know. That's not

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normal, not a conventional thing.
Crap to go through when you're seventeen,

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for sure, right, you know, and you're dating girls and making new

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friends, and that's the body knows. Yeah, that's the hard part.

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Everybody knows. And then you gotta
worry in the back of your mind,

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do my new friends or girlfriends think
I'm a complete freaking nut job, because

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they probably do. They might.
If they don't, they're not going to

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tell you. And it's a wonder
you have that just plagues the back of

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your mind constantly. It goes two
ways, and you can you can say,

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if I'm making this up. It
goes two ways. They don't tell

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you that they think you're crazy,
but you can see it in their eye.

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They tell everyone around you, yeah
for sure, or they tell you

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you're you're crazy. Yeah, yeah, you know, or well, yeah

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that's the good way. That's a
good way. I mean the two bad

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ways it goes. Yeah, they
you either tell them and they don't react,

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and then they go tell everybody around
you. Now it seems to be

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that most everybody leans on the good
way. Yeah, it does feel that

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way. There's just been enough that's
happened publicly now that people can't really you

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know, you can say, oh, well it's a it's a seagull and

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the sun's flashing off his wings at
just the right angle and it's making this

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little I've heard all that. But
something's going on, right. I don't

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care what anybody says. Come out, come out in our house, you

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know, come hang out and SkyWatch
with us, and I guarantee you will

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change your mind. Guarantee it.
It did it to the Discovery Channel,

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the History Channel. I mean,
it's done it to pastors even, Yeah,

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true past Yeah. Do you want
to tell a little bit about that?

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I mean I don't. I don't
really want to, but I to

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give details. You tell it,
Okay, Sure, so right now,

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Junior is actually I guess living with
me is fair because you're living in my

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house and I'm living in my apartment
across the street. Yeah, so she's

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living with me for a month because
I just closed on a house about two

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weeks ago and it's a nineteen seventies
house and I have destroyed it. Yeah,

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just gutted the floors and gutted the
floors and we're just doing a whole

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remodel job. So he's he's you
know, he's he's a contractor. We're

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gonna build it back better. Though. Oh yeah, no, I'm starting

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to see it, especially after today
what we were, what y'all were laying

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on the floor and you know,
putting that underlayment, that smooth, clean

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underlayment on top of that ugly old
particle board from freaking nineteen seventy five.

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Like, I'm starting to see it
in my mind's eye, it's going to

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look great. I don't have the
eye for this, you know, I

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need to be several steps in before
I really can start to visualize what it's

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going to look. But it's I'm
starting to see. But anyway, so

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he's living with me for a month, and it's it's been going great.

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I mean we've been having fun and
there's been like barely any bumps in the

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road at all. It's just been
smooth sailing. Last night we meet you

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and her Derek and two others and
two others, my cousin Warren who's been

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on the show, and Ny Guy's
buddy Nick. Yeah, everybody's heart throbbed.

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Nick. We had a whole magic
the Gathering night last night. They're

409
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.079
kind of breaking me into it.
I'm new to it and I'm new as

410
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.680
well. Really two months in or
so two and a half months, well,

411
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.480
I'm two games in. Yeah,
it's been awesome games and we just

412
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.319
like camped out in my empty house. They're staying on air mattresses in the

413
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.480
living room and I live across the
street, so pop over there. And

414
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.599
it's been a blast. Man,
just this this experience. And anyway,

415
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.720
so since he's been here, Dad
says, Hey, Ryan got a friend

416
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:59.599
named Chris. He's coming to town
Tuesday of last week and we're gonna go

417
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:00.960
dinner with and then we're going to
go skywatching. He's a pastor. And

418
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.240
I was like, okay, sounds
great. And we meet the guy very

419
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:07.839
sincere, right, I mean,
yeah, he was awesome, very humble.

420
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:12.079
Liked him a lot. He was
calm and thoughtful with every word he

421
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:17.599
said. He had a very reassuring
atmosphere about him. I mean, I'm

422
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.440
always I don't know how to say
it, but I just I feel things

423
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.000
for people, and what I felt
from him was very good. I'm the

424
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:27.400
same way. I'm the same way. I'm not going to go off on

425
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:32.720
a tangent, but a lot of
the time when people have done us wrong,

426
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:34.839
I've been able to see it.
You can, I can feel it

427
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.279
in your good forehand. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Then I would tell

428
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.920
Dad and other people like, hey, this guy you gotta watch out for.

429
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:47.119
Yep, he don't always listen.
And then sure enough, you know,

430
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.359
but Dad does what he wants.
Yeah, there's been a million people.

431
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.440
I mean, he's a smart guy. Yeah, so he knows what

432
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.599
he's doing. He's ten steps ahead. Yeah, every time ahead of me,

433
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.920
for sure. He's just always one
step ahead. Yeah, I would

434
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:08.119
say that I'm being modest. Yeah, but Dad's always plotting ten steps ahead,

435
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:10.640
and he knows what he's doing,
and he's not always telling you what

436
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.039
he's doing. And I'm like,
Dad, this guy's you know, not

437
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.480
not the one we're talking about,
but just anybody, Dad, this guy's

438
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:21.200
weird and dad also sees the best
in everybody. Yeah, he does,

439
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.759
you know he does. He has
always had a problem his whole life,

440
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:30.440
my whole life, anyway, of
doing too much for people and allowing people

441
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.759
to take advantage of him. Yeah, and it's happened time and time and

442
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:37.440
time again to family, friends,
everybody. Like when he lost his business,

443
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:42.839
he was just giving out every you
know, just giving people waking from

444
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.000
him. Yeah. Yeah, he
was so good hearted, trusting. But

445
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:51.440
I'm not so trusting, not after
all what we've been through. How could

446
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.839
I be. Yeah, he's definitely
a very compassionate guy. He just he

447
00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:00.799
just would give you anything. He's
he's really the real deal. But yeah,

448
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.200
so this guy comes and we go
to dinner with him, and just

449
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.119
very sincere, thoughtful guy. And
he's a pastor over a really big church.

450
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:15.440
Massive Yeah, and I'm talking to
him. I'd like to get him

451
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.640
on the show. But anyway,
so we go out skywatching and it was

452
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:25.319
like, dang, dude, it
was within thirty seconds. Let me say

453
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:31.640
something. So we it was a
rainy day, right or it was going

454
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.759
to rain the next day. Either
way, there were clouds, a cloudy

455
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:40.640
everywhere. Right when we left the
place, we went to eat, we

456
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.200
were all talking about how this probably
isn't the best day to SkyWatch. The

457
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:51.039
clouds are everywhere, and you know, after five or so minutes of being

458
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.559
at the beach, there were no
clouds above us, but there were clouds

459
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:59.200
everywhere else, right, do you
remember, Yeah, I felt like the

460
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.160
freaking cloud was just opened up for
us. Yeah, probably didn't happen that

461
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:06.720
way, but well that said the
same thing. Yeah, like just the

462
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.519
there was just a big ring of
nothing right above us. It's cloud busting.

463
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.440
Yeah, I've seen it many times. Man and and dad will sit

464
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.000
out there and it'll be a cloudy
night and he'll be like John Alexander taught

465
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.960
me about cloud busting, okay,
Dad, and then we'll stare at the

466
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.119
clouds and we'll think about it and
they're gone. I think it's real.

467
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:30.239
Sure has happened a lot by experience. Yeah, there's been a lot of

468
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.119
nights out there where we changed that
man's life. Yeah. Basically we got

469
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.960
out there and within thirty seconds,
as orbs appeared, they changed his life,

470
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:43.840
right, and he was just blown
away. And it was such a

471
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.039
nasty weather night that we saw eight
orbs. Yeah, and he was like

472
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.679
he was like, man, we
weren't even out there for like thirty minutes.

473
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.280
Maybe I don't know something. It
wasn't long. It wasn't long because

474
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.119
it's like free I think I've seen
enough. I would say what we just

475
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.639
saw was good enough. Yeah,
he went his whole life and hadn't seen

476
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:06.719
one and then saw eight. He
was like, okay, we can go.

477
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:08.119
Well, dude, I don't know
if you noticed this. It was

478
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:15.559
like forty degrees freezing. He was
in jeans and like a little it was

479
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.159
like a denim coat. Dude,
he wasn't in right. And he was

480
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.840
standing out there looking at the ors
excited and yeah he was. He was

481
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.480
at all costs, I have to
be here. And then at the end

482
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.760
of the time he said, guys, I have to say. I mean,

483
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:36.079
I'm not trying to complain about the
cold, like I you know,

484
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.800
I'm I'm no whip, but I
think I've seen enough. Remember that.

485
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.239
Yeah, And then we got out
of there and his jaw was just on

486
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:45.440
the floor and he was just the
nicest guy and he was like, I

487
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.559
want to support you. No,
it was awesome, and I don't I

488
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.400
said, he's probably not seen anything
his whole life. That might not be

489
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.079
true. He told me he'd seen
one ORB on his own. Yeah,

490
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.159
and he showed me a video.
I was just taking a step back.

491
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.920
I think I might have misspoke,
but I really believe he would be an

492
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.199
awesome guest. Oh me too,
And we're gonna probably get him on when

493
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.280
we get our new studio set up. I want to start trying to roll

494
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:15.559
out guests more because we're switching our
schedule around and sure, you know the

495
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:17.639
guests that travel out of town.
But it was super cool he told me

496
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.960
that. I mean, keep in
mind, this guy is a pastor over

497
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.719
a church. Dude that is so
massive. There's like seven hundred preachers,

498
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.639
right, yeah, something like that. And he told me when we were

499
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:32.880
walking off the beach, he was
like, he was like, I've seen

500
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.880
a lot of things. I've experienced
a lot of signs and miracles, but

501
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:43.920
the one thing I needed in my
life was that external you know, nobody

502
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.239
just sees I think I'm going to
go to and visits church one day.

503
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:52.440
I want to go the one that
he preaches at. You should And it's

504
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.679
kind of crazy. One of the
last times I spoke to a preacher about

505
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:04.480
UFO is he was throwing holy water
in my bedroom. Yep, that happened.

506
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:10.079
They were putting anointing in, anointing
me or my bedroom or whatnot.

507
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.880
Because of the UFO thing. They
did it to Dad as well. Dude.

508
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:16.280
I was in the room. I
was like thirteen years old. Thirteen

509
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:21.360
years old. I saw I'm not
gonna say his name, and it doesn't

510
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.239
matter anyway, but I saw,
let's just say, one of our grandparents'

511
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:32.760
previous pastors on dad's side anointing Dad, trying to get the freaking devil out

512
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:35.760
of it. I'm sitting there,
dude, I'm a child there too.

513
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.039
I'm Vinnie's age. Imagine little you
know, little Vincent. I was that

514
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:44.599
age, sitting in the corner of
the room, horrified, like yeah,

515
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.400
and that just means something's wrong with
our dad, or the way we see

516
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.760
it, something's obviously wrong if they're
anointing him and spraying holy water all over.

517
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:57.920
Do you know where else I've seen
that in the Exorci the Exorcist,

518
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:05.639
or Amityville Horror or some messed up
horror film. Yeah, and I saw

519
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:09.039
it for real, and Dad wasn't
because yeah, I didn't know that,

520
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.920
But that's that's insane. They literally
did it to me and in my room,

521
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.199
because I mean, I told the
story too. Yeah, I remember

522
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:22.000
that story being told in a previous
episode or so, but it happened to

523
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.079
me too. That's damaging. Yeah, and I knew the preacher really well

524
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.280
church, right, And now I
know he's judging me. Now I know

525
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:35.639
that he thinks what I saw is
demonic? So who do you believe?

526
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:37.760
Do you? I mean, I
saw it? Do I believe the church

527
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:44.119
that they're saying that what I saw
is demonico? They've never seen anything,

528
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.039
so why would I believe them?
Right, they've read a piece of paper.

529
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.480
They're reading a piece of paper.
But yeah, they don't know,

530
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:57.079
right. That's sad. What's worse? It's like, is it worse that

531
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.440
you're telling me I'm crazy and I'm
a liar and you don't believe me?

532
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:01.599
Or is it worse that you do
believe I saw something but you think it's

533
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:06.559
the devil? Right? What's worse? But how do you notice the devil?

534
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.880
How can you be so arrogant to
say, oh, it's the devil?

535
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.760
You don't know nothing. Anybody that's
out there saying it's the devil,

536
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.280
they don't know, right. That's
just what they want to believe exactly.

537
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:28.400
It's sad. You know, if
you looked at scriptures from the Bible and

538
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:34.719
you looked at most of the times
that people saw angels, they were freaking

539
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:38.079
terrified. They had fiery eyes,
they're prostrate on their face, and fear,

540
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:44.119
and the angel would say things like
fear not for I am an angel

541
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.840
of the Lord, stuff like that. So obviously it was freaking that guy

542
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:51.039
out. He was scared to death. Or they'd have a booming voice and

543
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.679
they'd be in the spinning metal wheel
within a wheel on fire with these animal

544
00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.440
faces. I mean, they're weird. So, I mean somebody who didn't

545
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:06.159
know any better would think it's demonic
angels certainly probably well, okay, I

546
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.119
might sound like a hypocrite. I
was. I was gonna say angels certainly

547
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:12.239
are not pretty blonde boys with swords, But that did kind of see a

548
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.559
pretty blond lady, so maybe they
are the sword, that's right. Yeah.

549
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:20.519
I don't think anything is quite as
they explain it, right. The

550
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:25.119
picture that we have in our heads
of Christianity and angels isn't quite what it

551
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:29.079
is, what it actually is,
I don't think so. I think so

552
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.719
too. I think man has tried
to explain it for a thousand years,

553
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:37.280
and they've just kept explaining it and
kept interpreting it so many different ways,

554
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:42.360
kept profiting all those Yeah, who
knows what it actually was. We know

555
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:45.400
what it is now, we know
the picture of the church paints, but

556
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:52.360
that doesn't mean that that's the way
it really is. I can tell you

557
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.840
that if it was a demon,
it didn't jump in my body. It

558
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.719
didn't take over me. I didn't
start freaking and screaming and s ripping my

559
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.639
skin off. Yeah. I didn't
try and pluck all my toenails off,

560
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.880
you know, and put green.
Yeah. Yeah, I was upset,

561
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:14.679
and I might have cried about it, and it may have tormented me for

562
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.159
a while, but it wasn't like
that. You know. I want you

563
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.360
to give your input on this,
because it's your life and not mine.

564
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.000
But I really do believe that it
was meant to go down that way.

565
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.920
I do too. This is gonna
sound so weird. It was part of

566
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.280
the story. I know that you're
suffering was part of the story some strange

567
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:35.039
way. I know. That's that's
what I was I was thinking earlier,

568
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.719
but I couldn't really get out I'm
not really great with words, but that's

569
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.480
how I feel. I know that. I know that to be true.

570
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.800
I had to go through all that
to be who I am now. I

571
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:51.960
think people who really go through a
lot end up being a little happier than

572
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.760
the average person. Yeah, you
know, I think so I know what

573
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:59.599
it's like to really go through some
shit time, so that my normal everyday

574
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.480
life is great. Do you know
what people tell me about you behind your

575
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.079
back? Now? I don't mean
then, no, it's not bad.

576
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.679
I mean now what they tell me
things like like, for example, Nick's

577
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:15.800
dad, when you met Nick's dad, Roy, it's great, Yeah,

578
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:21.840
you met him really. Back when
we did that second episode, don't don't

579
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:23.840
you remember we did that episode at
Casey's dad's house on the back porch.

580
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:28.559
Yeah, yeah, well I was
wearing the tank time was hot. Yeah

581
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.880
it was. I regretted that I
wore that shirt. It's all right,

582
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.519
but looked terrible. Anyway. So
back when we did that and you really

583
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.199
had the opportunity to meet Nick's dad
for the first time, y'all hung out

584
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.480
that day, y'all got a lot
of time together, and then after you

585
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:49.639
left, he was like Nick Chris
Junior is just the kindest soul I've ever

586
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.360
met. I just looked into his
eyes and I went home and cried,

587
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.719
and there was a depth of his
soul that I just can't explain. I

588
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.840
just want to be his friend.
You know who else says that? My

589
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:04.039
mother in law really, and yeah, and countless other people have met you,

590
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.480
hugged you, interacted with you,
and they're like, holy shit,

591
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.480
he's the nicest guy I've ever met. Now, how is that possible?

592
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:15.960
Why would that be emanating from you? It's because you've been through something harsher

593
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:21.599
and more severe and deeper than most
people can fathom. And I believe it's

594
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:28.239
like karmic retribution, Like the more
you suffer in life and obviously heal from

595
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.800
it and learn your lessons and come
back, it's like the deeper your well

596
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:37.800
of compassion is in your soul,
Like there's an energy that yeah, yeah,

597
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:42.559
comes from you. But I don't
know. Well, it's nice to

598
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.280
hear they don't all say bad things. I'm not the best, but I

599
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:52.320
try hard every day. But that's
what I don't know. I think,

600
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.159
Yeah, I mean, as much
as it sucked, you were supposed to

601
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.239
go through all that stuff, and
even not just for you individually, but

602
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:07.039
for the world, like to kind
of to I don't know how to get

603
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.840
the words out, and I want
it to sound appropriate, but like to

604
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:19.440
be the model for everyone going forward
who learns about this. You and Dad

605
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.960
that night. It was supposed to
be traumatic, it was supposed to be

606
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:27.760
messed up and horrifying, but really
it was good in the end. You

607
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.519
know, sure something about that is
just impactful to people. I mean just

608
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.199
life changing. You know how many
people message me because of the podcast,

609
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.239
social media and all this stuff we're
doing, and I'm like open to messages

610
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:42.760
on multiple different accounts, and now
the discord with like nearly four hundred people

611
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:47.239
in there. You have no clue
how many people I get saying I'm seeing

612
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:50.800
orbs, I'm seeing orbs or It's
like, oh my god, I want

613
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:52.159
to see them. What do I
do? What do I do? What

614
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.679
do I do? People desperate to
see them? Yeah, little do they

615
00:44:54.719 --> 00:45:00.400
know when this began, when the
phenomenon truly started in a acting and making

616
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:05.920
themselves known to the world, they
traumatized little old seventeen year old Chris,

617
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:07.559
you know, and then everybody else. I want to see him? What

618
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:13.519
do I do? It's like,
are you sure, Yeah, be careful

619
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.960
what you wish for sure? You
know. It's like, yeah, I

620
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:24.119
don't know the time the truth's gonna
come out, Yeah, when it's supposed

621
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:29.840
to. I mean, it's crazy
to me that the government's talking about it

622
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.679
now. Yeah, I just can't
get over that. Back in two thousand

623
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:37.159
and eight, nobody, no,
normal people are talking about it, not

624
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.960
that I knew, right, No, they weren't. The government certainly wasn't.

625
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.320
They weren't until like two or three
years ago. That's amazing. Now

626
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:49.800
everybody's talking about aliens are so cool. Oh my god, you have a

627
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:53.440
book. Yeah. We were pushed
away because of it. Yeah, we

628
00:45:53.440 --> 00:46:00.800
were treated like lepers. Yeah,
now we're cool. It does seem that

629
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.920
we've done it. And don't you
remember when we were kids and then we

630
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.559
had people from NASA and people from
the CIA coming around being like, you're

631
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.320
gonna be tapped. Yeah remember that, throw that on top of the ship.

632
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:14.920
You're gonna have satellites over your house
forever. Yeah. As if we

633
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:19.280
weren't, you know, dealing with
enough. We're already scared about it out

634
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.559
of our minds, right, scared
about the UFOs. And now we've got

635
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:24.760
to be scared about the government too. Yeah, and that is a real

636
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:29.159
fear. Yeah, they were telling
us to be afraid. Yeah, like

637
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:30.679
you should be afraid we're gonna be
tapped her a couple of years ago.

638
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.159
We would have killed you for this. Oh, I've heard that. I

639
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.840
could put a bullet in your head. I've heard that too. Run you

640
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:39.159
off the road and kill you with
a mac truck. Do whatever we want,

641
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.320
make you disappear if you go talk
about it, drop you out of

642
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.840
a helicopter at thirty thousand feet.
So that's why I went and talked about

643
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:47.960
it. That's why I started the
podcast. Nice it was, uh,

644
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.360
you know, you're not gonna tell
me what you do? Good? And

645
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.440
then the other reason was to I
don't know, I guess deep down I

646
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.320
felt like if I was doing this, it would be like defending you and

647
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:07.199
Dad. But I don't know if
it's had that effect or not. Yeah,

648
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:13.480
it definitely has for both me and
Dad, I'm sure. Yeah,

649
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:20.400
yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
And I want to say, like we

650
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.199
talked about the you know, how
it was scary in the beginning, and

651
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.760
how you saw or I mean not
orbs, but entities you saw beings face

652
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.280
to face from just a few feet
away in the woods. And you know,

653
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:30.280
people have read the book. I'm
sure they know the story if they're

654
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.280
listening to this by now, we
don't have to go into all the details.

655
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.960
I know that was scary, but
I don't want people to think that

656
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.559
it's supposed to be scary. What
I'm trying to say is I think it

657
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:45.239
was supposed to be scary for you. Yeah, for some reason, I

658
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:50.239
don't get it. I don't know
why, but I've always felt like that

659
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:55.480
was meant to be that way.
I could never understand why, and that

660
00:47:55.559 --> 00:48:00.320
you would come around in the future
and here you are. Yeah, it's

661
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:06.320
crazy. And I still get a
little emotional talking about that one, about

662
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.280
that particular incident, having to relive
it and go over and all. It's

663
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:14.679
still a little hard, I guess
you could say, But it's definitely gotten

664
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:19.519
a lot easier good. It's definitely. Back in the day, I literally

665
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:23.119
couldn't talk about it. I really
had a hard time. It was.

666
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:27.239
It was crazy. It was a
lot different. Yeah, I don't know

667
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.880
why. If I ever even thought
about UFOs, it felt like my brain

668
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:35.280
was going to explode. We didn't
talk about it for like five years.

669
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.400
Yeah, like I remember the night
that didn't I didn't remember it being so

670
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:43.639
long, but I'm sure it was, so I know, I'm sure.

671
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.360
I'm sure it was. I just
wasn't, you know. I'm not thinking

672
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:50.079
about stuff like that. I know
how old I was that both the first

673
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.639
two times we talked about it,
and I was thirteen and eighteen. And

674
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:57.920
I wasn't exactly staying at home all
the time back then either. I was

675
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.719
all over the place. Anytime up
you would leave probably was. Yeah,

676
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:06.280
Yeah, anytime it was brought up, I would leave. I would complain

677
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:13.960
about it. I would yell or
whatever. You know, I don't want

678
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.119
to hear this stuff. Don't talk
about it around me. Why do you

679
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.079
always got to talk about, you
know, stuff like that. Yeah,

680
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:21.639
I don't know them. I don't
want to talk about it with them.

681
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:29.320
I don't trust them. I remember
that. Yeah, So, what what

682
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:32.800
do you think they are? They've
heard what I think they've heard? You

683
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:36.599
know what Dad thinks? What do
you think? What do you feel they

684
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:45.480
are? You've you've seen them closer
than anyone really well, for for a

685
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.960
long time, for many, many, many, many many years, people

686
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:55.800
have been seeing something I think people, even in ancient texts, have been

687
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:01.119
describing beings, you know, that
they called angels. I think that's what

688
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:06.800
it is. What. I think
we're seeing those same things that people were

689
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:10.239
describing back in those old times.
And I think that's what we're seeing.

690
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.239
These things. I think they've been
here for a long time. They've been

691
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:21.639
watching us for a long, long
long time. I don't think they just

692
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.639
popped in from freaking zebulin for a
cup of tea. I think they,

693
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.280
you know, I think they've been
here. They've been orchestrating and pulling the

694
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:37.639
strings for a long time. Yeah, what people would call angels, I

695
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.679
think that's kind of what it is. I don't think it's exactly as you

696
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:45.639
know, the Bible would say it, or exactly as your preacher would say

697
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:51.679
it. But it's complicated. Yeah, it's much different. Cool. I

698
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:53.840
think that they, you know,
can pop in an out of dimensions.

699
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:59.280
I don't think that they're going across
the universe. I think there might be

700
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:04.360
another plan of his existence right here
over top of us that you can't see,

701
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.119
and they're coming in and out.
I don't know, though, I

702
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:12.360
think so too, I don't.
I mean, I don't know for sure,

703
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:16.719
But from all that I've heard over
the years talking with CIA and NASA

704
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:22.599
people, I've heard a lot of
different things, right, some crazy stuff.

705
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.880
Well, Chris, more important than
that stuff you've heard from them,

706
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:30.239
You've seen it a thousand times more
than anybody else on the planet other than

707
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:37.320
Dad and your brothers and sister and
mother. You know, you've seen it

708
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:45.679
so many times that your brain is
making these leaps and reasoning to paint these

709
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:52.199
models of how they behave, how
you're observing the behave. I mean,

710
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.079
you have a pretty damn good idea
of what they are. There was a

711
00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:00.679
time, for a short span of
time that I was having this sleep process

712
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:09.559
thing, and I'll tell the story
if you want to hear it. Yeah,

713
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:17.719
I was. I would wake up
and I couldn't move, you know,

714
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:23.480
like any other sleep process thing,
and I would just be looking around.

715
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:27.440
I couldn't really move. I may
have been able to move my head

716
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.480
out, I can't remember, but
I remember. And the reason I say

717
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:37.880
this is because I could see pretty
much lame. One time there was a

718
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:45.000
dresser beside my bed and on the
floor I could see the red eyes of

719
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.840
the beings that I you know,
that I saw before and it looked like

720
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:52.719
they were like peeking out from under
the dresser. As stupid as that sounds,

721
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.079
yeah, I could. It was
very dark and all I could see

722
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.800
with those eyes, but it looked
like it was ground level again, which

723
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:04.920
i'd that if you know my story, I've seen that in and before,

724
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:09.840
right. But I couldn't move,
and I'm freaking out and I'm seeing these

725
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:15.880
freaking eyes and then all of a
sudden, I can move and they're gone,

726
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:22.119
and I jump up and run into
Dad's room. I think he was

727
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.679
laying on the couch in the red
room, which was across from your bedroom,

728
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.280
Yes, And it was late at
night, and I went in there

729
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:30.880
and I talked. I woke him
up, and I was like, Dad,

730
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:38.280
you won't believe what just happened.
And he said, son, next

731
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:45.239
time that happens, just say Jesus'
name and uh, and everything is gonna

732
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:52.039
be all right. And I think
I laid down with him and went to

733
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.840
sleep, you know, in there
with him. Not on the same couch,

734
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:58.960
of course, but I went to
sleep in the same room with him.

735
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:07.440
And you know, a time later, the same thing happened again.

736
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:12.480
And there was a part that I
left out. I could hear this loud

737
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.679
like it was it was moving my
body. It was so loud, this

738
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:22.760
vibration, this humming sound. It
was like whoam whoa, whoa whoa.

739
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:24.800
It was real, real, crazy, dude. It felt like it was

740
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:31.360
vibrating my body. It was very, very loud to me, and all

741
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:36.039
of it just freaked me slam out. But it happened again. I could.

742
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.079
I open my eyes. I'm laying
on my back and I could see

743
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:45.639
these creatures and I hear that won't, won't, won't. And I said

744
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:53.239
Jesus' name like I remembered what Dad
said, and it went away. Wow

745
00:54:54.199 --> 00:55:00.440
yep, And I went right to
sleep. I wasn't scared. I felt

746
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:05.840
comforted, and I just went right
to sleep. And I thought that was

747
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:12.159
so crazy, because knowing me,
at the first thought of anything like that,

748
00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:17.480
I'm not going to sleep, I'm
definitely not. But it worked.

749
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:22.880
I don't know if you know.
I don't know why or what, but

750
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:29.920
it happened. Well. The one
time I had sleep paralysis, I did

751
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:34.199
the same thing. I said Jesus's
name, and it was just like the

752
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.639
demon or whatever it was. I
mean, it wasn't like yours where you

753
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:40.800
were seeing something in your room.
Mine was like a vivid nightmare that was

754
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:45.280
like sleep paralysis, and it was
some weird demon. And I said Jesus

755
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:49.280
name and it was gone. Even
in dreams, it works. Gotta be

756
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.599
something to it. It's gotta be. Yeah. I don't know if it

757
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.039
was just in my head, if
I was dreaming, if those things were

758
00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:02.920
there, I don't know, but
it happened. And when I said Jesus

759
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:12.119
name, it stopped right then.
It's crazy. Yeah. I think a

760
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:15.199
really powerful story is when you were
about nineteen and you had a surgery and

761
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:19.480
you were still on anesthesia and you
were riding home and Mom over the story.

762
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:23.519
I remember being told yeah, and
I do remember seeing I remember bits

763
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:27.679
and pieces of it, but I
wasn't all there. Right, you were

764
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.599
riding home in the passenger seat of
the car and there was like a mac

765
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:34.000
truck in front of you and Mom
and it's it was like hitting the brakes

766
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:37.639
and the brake lights started lighting up
and you were like, Mom, Mom

767
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:43.199
is the eyes. And ever since
that moment, Mom was changed, Like

768
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.320
you know how she is man.
She goes through cycles of like, oh

769
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:47.880
my gosh, this is so fun, and this and that and the other

770
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:51.119
and then she goes through cycles of
like I don't want to deal with any

771
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:55.079
of it. But I think after
that moment she knew at least that you

772
00:56:55.119 --> 00:57:00.679
weren't lying. That's what she always
told me. Yeah, she told me

773
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.559
that he can't be lying. He
wouldn't have done that on anesthesia. I'm

774
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.400
like, dumb, mom, He's
not lying, never has been. It's

775
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:13.280
crazy. I always knew that she
thought I was a liar. Yeah,

776
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:16.760
that's I don't blame her for it. Anybody else that came out saying the

777
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:21.079
same shit I was saying. I
would have probably thought the same stuff,

778
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:23.760
you know. Yeah, I don't
get about it from someone else's perspective.

779
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:30.760
It does sound crazy. It is
fucking crazy, but it happened right.

780
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:35.480
Yeah. I don't blame her either. I don't blame anybody really. The

781
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:37.119
only ones I blame are the ones
who are really hateful and go out of

782
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:42.239
their way to keep sticking that knife
in. Yeah, and they're still out

783
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:46.840
there sticking in that knife yep.
But it's okay. They have their own

784
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:52.360
place in the world and they need
to be there. Yeah, it's true.

785
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:55.800
Jenny wanted me to ask you,
what have you learned from Teddy.

786
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:00.559
What have I learned from Teddy?
Yeah, I mean it spent about four

787
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:07.760
years with him, though. I
learned how to change a diaper. I

788
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:13.079
can now put clothes on a baby. I can bay the baby. I

789
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.920
learned how to do that. Yeah. I'm really good at like pushing a

790
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.480
swing too. I can do that, really learn how to do that.

791
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:27.679
It's funny. Yeah, but as
far as UFOs go, I don't mean

792
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:30.360
that. I just mean in general, a whole lot. Yeah. I

793
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:35.519
learned how to be selfless, how
to take care of someone else first over

794
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:39.480
my own needs. If you have
a baby, all the things you enjoy

795
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:44.000
doing, you might want to put
them to the side for a while and

796
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:46.800
you got to focus on the baby. Isn't the baby more fun than all

797
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:51.000
that stuff? Though? Yeah?
Yeah, I love it. So I

798
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:54.239
have five of them if I could. Yeah, Yeah, I enjoy it.

799
00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:58.519
It's great. He's in his little
karate uniform, going to karate every

800
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:01.239
week. Now. I love that. That's one of the greatest things I've

801
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:06.320
ever learned. Seen him spar other
kids, Uh huh. It's so cute,

802
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:09.639
those little teeny punches. He's just
running around in circles with his little

803
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:13.800
karate gear on with helmet head to
toe and he doesn't know what to do.

804
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:15.480
Yeah, he's just running around,
just runs right up to him and

805
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:19.880
takes one right at the face.
Just three year olds and karate gear.

806
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:24.239
It's funny. That's awesome, funny
kid. Uh. You know, this

807
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:30.840
weekend was Easter, and just I
want to hear about that, you do

808
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.400
if y'all can talk about it on
the show. Yeah, I heard y'all

809
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:36.719
had a pretty wild night. You
do, I hear it? Ye?

810
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:38.480
Did I tell you about it?
I think so? Yeah, I think

811
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:42.719
you may have told me a little
bit, but you know, we're on

812
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.320
camera, so well. I mean, yeah, this would probably be the

813
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:46.719
best episode I could tell it.
Yeah, this is the time and it

814
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:51.280
just happened. Yeah, I can
go into that. So this past weekend

815
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:58.199
was Easter. Today is April third. Obviously Easter was literally three days ago.

816
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:06.639
So it's funny because I've had tons
of messages. I'm getting comments on

817
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:09.480
Instagram, YouTube being like, did
you have a blessing on Easter? Did

818
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:13.000
you have a blessing on Easter?
I'm looking at YouTube today, did you

819
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.480
guys have a blessing on Easter?
Can you report? I'm getting emails,

820
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:20.639
I'm getting Patreon comments, I'm getting
Instagram comments. There's been this mystique built

821
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:25.960
up around Easter because of the lady
and Dad having you know, profound experiences

822
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:30.000
and things always happen on Easter every
year. So short answer, yes,

823
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.639
So here's what happened. I go
to town Friday night. Junior goes to

824
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:37.360
town two after having been here a
week or granted we live two hours away

825
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:43.440
from Dad or I do, and
Junior is temporarily so we both go to

826
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:49.280
town to Fayetteville on Friday. Junior
goes home. We get Teddy and keep

827
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.159
him with us for the weekend,
and that was part of the story that

828
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:54.360
I was gonna explain. And we
go out Friday night. Me okay,

829
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:59.960
so here's what happened. So me
and Jenny get to fayette Vilt around seven

830
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:04.159
pe in and I get in the
door and Mom's like, let's go to

831
01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:06.519
me Casitos. Let's get dinner,
you know, and I'm like great,

832
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:09.360
sounds great. We're starving, and
Dad's like, god, I want to

833
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:12.880
go out on SkyWatch. I don't
want to go waste time at a restaurant.

834
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.360
I'm like, Dad, I gotta
do normal stuff with mom too,

835
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:19.480
right, Like, I can't.
I gotta spend time with her and not

836
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:21.760
make it all about this all the
time. He's like, I know,

837
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:23.599
but I want to go out on
SkyWatch. It's Easter weekend. I've waited

838
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:25.800
a whole year for this. I'm
dying, you know. So we go

839
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:30.079
to me casinos, we eat,
and then we get back and he's ready.

840
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:34.639
He's ready. Oh no, no, no, no, it's happening.

841
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.960
We parked the car and I'm packed
in the back. I'm a big

842
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.280
guy. You might not tell from
the camera, but I'm like, I'm

843
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.440
I have I'm wide, and I'm
packed in the back of this little car

844
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:50.280
with my wife and with Teddy's freaking
car seat, which is huge. And

845
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.920
yeah, yeah, it's there's not
much space for me back there. And

846
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:57.960
I'm like, I'm like cramped up
in the car, like and and and

847
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.199
we park and let's just say I
was so cramped we couldn't get our seat

848
01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:05.480
belts on back there. We're just
riding a mile down the road. We

849
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:07.719
parked the car. Dad steps out
of the car. He's like, Ryan,

850
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:13.159
Ryan, get out, get out
now. And I'm like, I'm

851
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.840
like, oh my god, stuff's
falling out of my pockets because I'm trying

852
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:20.639
to get up and my phone drops
out into the dirt and I'm oh shit,

853
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:22.360
and I'm reaching. I'm like,
it's so dark, I can't see

854
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.400
anything. He's rushing me. I
said, Dad, this, this feels

855
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:29.880
like I just said it after but
I was like, Dad, this feels

856
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:31.320
like two thousand and eight, man, back when he was like shouting at

857
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:34.320
us and get out of bed at
four in the morning because it was so

858
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.000
get out here now, desperate,
desperate. Yeah, well, he and

859
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:39.639
you know, lo and behold.
I finally get out of the car and

860
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:44.239
I scrambled to get out there after
about ten or fifteen seconds because I'm so

861
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:54.400
packed in there. And there was
this extremely bright blue and white orb like

862
01:02:54.840 --> 01:03:02.639
bigger. I've seen one bigger and
that that one was enormous, as Teddy

863
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:07.159
likes to say now it's his favorite
word. Yeah, it says enormous.

864
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.800
It's enormous. I've seen one bigger
orb and it was enormous. It was

865
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:15.920
the one I tell about in two
thousand and eight on Dad's birthday. The

866
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:20.800
morning of Dad's birthday in two thousand
and eight, me and Jeremy and Dad

867
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:23.760
and Emily says she was there too, but I just I just don't remember

868
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:30.559
it that way. It doesn't matter. And anyway, so I saw this

869
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:35.639
orb that was huge. It was
like literally could blot out the sky.

870
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:38.159
It was so huge, and it
was it was over the Christmas Tree farm

871
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:42.960
behind her property. That's the biggest
orb I've ever seen. This one a

872
01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:45.320
few nights ago. I didn't know
that. It was like four in the

873
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:50.880
morning on a school day and you
might not have even went home. And

874
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.000
Dad literally came into my room at
four in the morning and was like,

875
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:58.840
get up, get up now now. And I scrambled and put my jeans

876
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:00.239
on and I ran out to the
back door. The biggest orb you've seen

877
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:04.880
was two thousand and eight. It
was so big it literally like, dude,

878
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:08.440
I'm telling you it was I was
thinking that you were saying that it

879
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.679
was this weekend. No no,
no, no, no, no.

880
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:13.840
The one this weekend is the second
biggest I've ever seen. The point I'm

881
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:15.280
trying to make nice. Yeah,
yeah, the one in two thousand and

882
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:18.199
eight, it was it literally would
have blotted out the sky. It was

883
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:24.280
so big. It was super massive, like a freaking mothership orb. The

884
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:29.519
one this weekend was probably the size
of like a beach ball or something.

885
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:32.840
It was huge, I mean massive, and it was solid. It was

886
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:38.679
stable. It was blue and white, and you know how it is.

887
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:42.000
Normally we'll see orbits out in the
woods around us and they'll flash. Yeah,

888
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:44.960
and it'll flash, and then it'll
appear ten feet away and it'll flash

889
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:48.519
and then it'll streak. This one
wasn't doing that. It was stable.

890
01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:55.639
It was just a light and it
was slowly moving through the woods and it

891
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:59.280
would it would stop and react to
us when we would get excited, and

892
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:00.440
I swear to you do I had
chills and I was looking at it and

893
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:02.719
my jaw was on the floor.
And it's hard to do that for me,

894
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:05.639
man, and you and all of
us. After you've seen thousands and

895
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:10.079
thousands, it gets hard to blow
your mind. And this when I had

896
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:13.760
chills, I was like, that's
an entity. That is a being walking

897
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:15.840
through the woods, like I swear, dude. If I had it was

898
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:20.039
it was only about thirty or forty
feet away. You know where Mom and

899
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:26.679
Dad parked by the little basketball gold
concrete. Oh so it was behind dad,

900
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:30.800
behind the cop No, no,
no, no, that Mom and

901
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:33.760
Dad parked by the concrete where that
old basketball goal is. Right. It

902
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:35.960
was on that side of the road, though, that is what I mean.

903
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:39.760
It was in the woods behind that. Yeah, towards it wasn't even

904
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:45.119
property. Okay, it was towards
the kitchen. Oh okay. We're right

905
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.039
behind mom and Dad's car where they
parked. Wow, and the woods in

906
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:49.039
there. And I swear to you, dude, like if I had walked

907
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:51.960
into the woods. Oh yeah,
because you were just getting out of the

908
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:57.239
car. We just the car,
dude, We just parked. And Dad

909
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.920
bolts out the car and he's immediately
like, get out here. Now.

910
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:01.880
I didn't have time to think.
I was fumbling to get out of the

911
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.719
car, dropping all my shit,
could barely even get out, and had

912
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:08.719
to get the baby out. And
then I get out and I could barely

913
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:11.639
even get out the car fast enough. And he'd been staring at it.

914
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.719
And I'm telling you, it was
an entity. It was a massive orb

915
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:18.199
and it wasn't illuminating the whole forest
around it. It was like it was

916
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.199
a contained light and it was slowly
moving. And I watched it for minutes,

917
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:25.519
dude, And even Jenny was like, whoa, she was seeing it

918
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:27.519
too. By the time she got
out the car. Mom saw it,

919
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:29.800
but then she ran inside because she
had to go to the bathroom. And

920
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:33.159
I was holding Teddy and Teddy was
like seeing it. And I was like,

921
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.639
look, Teddy, Teddy, it's
an angel. And Teddy was like,

922
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:41.360
where where I want to see angel. I was like, look right

923
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:45.719
there and he was like, oh
my gosh, an angel. And Dad

924
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:47.840
was like, Dad said, it's
the lady. I was like, I'm

925
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:50.079
telling you, it's the lady.
It's the spirit of the lady. She's

926
01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:55.880
here. And then me and Dad
and Jenny stayed out for like another few

927
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.320
hours. We got Teddy inside and
then he would come back out and I'd

928
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:01.039
be like look, look, and
we're looking at orbs for hours and Teddy's

929
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:03.800
like, angel, there's an angel. And every time an airplane would be

930
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:05.840
in the sky, he'd be like, is that an angel. I'm like,

931
01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:12.920
no, that's an airplane. He
was all into it, and oh

932
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:16.039
my gosh, dude. We saw
so many. So after we saw that

933
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:19.880
one in the woods that I swear
to you man, I was like this,

934
01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:23.000
I just felt it in my being. I was like, this is

935
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:28.480
an entity. This is not just
some flash or like there's something there it's

936
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:31.239
not what we normally see, no
different. It was bizarre. It was

937
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:34.559
calling to me like there was something
there, and Dad said it was he

938
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:38.400
felt like it was the lady.
It's like it was like, dude,

939
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:42.880
it's Easter. This is it like
this today? Yeah, I mean it

940
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:45.360
was Friday night before Easter, but
still, I mean, it was like,

941
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:47.360
this is it. Like I'm telling
you. He was like, you

942
01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:49.360
have no clue. It was the
same night as the cows. When I

943
01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:53.679
heard the cows mowing, and I
was like, this is stupid. They're

944
01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:56.119
just cows. They're neighbors cows.
He's like, no, no, you

945
01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.519
don't get it. Same night Friday
night, Friday night. He was like,

946
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:02.440
son, this is a miracle.
This is the lady. You just

947
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.440
saw her. You just saw her
spirit. And I was like, this

948
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:10.960
time around, I know my lesson. I was like, I'll take it.

949
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:15.360
It's the lady. I wasn't doubting, you know. And then we

950
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:18.359
stayed out for a while and there
were these yell they looked like yellow flames.

951
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:20.680
Dad calls them these yellow flames.
I'm sure you've seen them. And

952
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:25.560
they just flash all around us in
the woods, all around us, in

953
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:29.880
the trees, over the grass right
above our heads. And then we would

954
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:32.159
see the orbs in the sky and
we would and we saw ones that were

955
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:34.439
different colors. You know. Usually
we see the orbs in there like a

956
01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:38.319
white light. Yeah, this night, oh, I forgot to say,

957
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:43.760
I forgot to say, totally forgot
this part orange. I was so mind

958
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:47.159
blown that when we saw what Dad
said was the spirit of the Lady in

959
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:53.000
the woods, the blue and white
big orb that was slowly moving through the

960
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:59.960
woods. There was a red light
in there too, flashing. I was

961
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:02.479
so transfixed on the blue one,
but Jenny was mind blown by the red

962
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:05.760
one. I keep forgetting about it. You need to get her to tell

963
01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:10.039
you that there was a flashing red
light in there. Then I came to

964
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:11.720
your house the next day, remember, and I was telling you, and

965
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:14.439
I was mind bow and I was
like, y'all gotta come tonight. But

966
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:18.079
you were busy, you had plans. Yeah, And we saw dozens and

967
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:23.159
dozens and dozens of orbs on Saturday
night, even more than the first night.

968
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:28.199
We didn't see anything that was like
the giant, you know, beach

969
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:30.760
ball size. It's just standard stuff, standard, but with a lot of

970
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:39.239
excitement and flashes all around us for
hours and Jeremy's girlfriend shout out Jackie,

971
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:45.520
Jeremy's new girlfriend, who's absolutely wonderful
when we love her. She's pretty cool,

972
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:49.119
dude. She saw everyone. Yeah, well that's awesome. She saw

973
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:53.840
every one of them. Now he
doesn't ever have to wonder. Yeah,

974
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:56.520
he was kind of nervous a little
bit. He was at the end of

975
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:58.119
the night. He was like,
I'm not gonna lie bro. I was

976
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:00.479
a little that's how you know she's
the right one. Oh, yeah,

977
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.479
I've said that too. I was
like, I said, I think I

978
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:09.239
said that to Jenny. And because
her name is Jackie. Why is it

979
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:13.239
that every single one of us dates
somebody with a Jay, Jackie, Jack,

980
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:16.319
Jessica, Jenny and Jenny. That's
weird, huh, isn't it?

981
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:20.359
Yeah? Weird Jackie and jack That's
how I knew it was the right one.

982
01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:25.079
Yeah, me too, Jackie immediately, Oh my god, it's meant

983
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:29.600
to be. Yeah. But she
saw god probably fifty orbs that night and

984
01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:33.760
was just she wasn't freaking out.
She wasn't like, I mean freaking out

985
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:36.720
in a good way. She wasn't, you know, she was chill about

986
01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:40.600
it. She was chill she was
open to it. I've seen people freak

987
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:45.800
out. I've seen people get really
excited, like freaking out. I've seen

988
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.000
people break down and cry. Yeah, we've seen that together. I don't

989
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:51.079
want to name any names. Yeah, yeah, no, she was cool.

990
01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:55.000
She was just seeing him and like
whoa, whoa Oa. There she

991
01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:58.640
had the she had the psionics and
she was all in on it, dude.

992
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:00.399
And then the next day they sent
me a picture. Jeremy as a

993
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:03.960
surprise gift, he bought her a
podcast shirt. Next day, I get

994
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:06.399
a let me show you, man. Next day I get a picture from

995
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:10.439
her and she's a She's wearing the
shirt, and I thought it was the

996
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:14.600
sweetest thing. She's she's all in, man. She was initiated into the

997
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:19.159
family that weekend on East Perfect.
Look at that. That's awesome. Yeah,

998
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:24.439
so now we got our crew.
Jessica wears your shirts all the time.

999
01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:28.520
Yeah, all the time. She
tells often she rotates every day between

1000
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.439
your company, YEP and the podcast, and I love that all the time,

1001
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:35.319
dude. She's one of your biggest
supporters. I know it. I

1002
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:39.520
know it, and I'm one of
hers. But yeah, it was cool,

1003
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:43.800
man. Easter was definitely a miracle. It was unbelievable. And we

1004
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:46.079
saw so many orbs. I saw
flashes, streaks in the sky. I

1005
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:50.920
saw blue orbs, orange orbs,
green orbs, red orbs, white orbs.

1006
01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:56.039
Apparently the Lady, although I didn't
see, you know, a shining

1007
01:11:56.079 --> 01:12:00.000
woman like that. Saw it was
a bright light. It's very unusual.

1008
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:02.000
But I'm telling you, bro,
I mean, if this psychicshit is real,

1009
01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:04.520
which I believe it is, I
mean, the History Channel proved with

1010
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:09.560
Dad with the EEG scan that when
he sees these orbs, they give him

1011
01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:12.880
messages in his brain. And I
don't question it, and I don't question

1012
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:15.640
that that may be happening with us
too, you know. And I'm telling

1013
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:20.039
you. When I saw that bright
white and blue light, immediately what came

1014
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:26.319
into my mind was this is not
an ordinary orb. This is a being.

1015
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:32.239
This is something in it was And
then Dad was like, it's the

1016
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:36.239
lady. So that's what he was
thinking too. Yeah, both of y'all

1017
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:40.880
thought the same thing, right,
Wow. I wasn't thinking it was the

1018
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:43.680
Lady. I was just like,
this is a being, this is not

1019
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:48.159
normal, this is an entity.
Well, emit light, the way it

1020
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:57.399
moved was freaky. It was methodical
and reacting to me and would flash at

1021
01:12:57.439 --> 01:13:01.520
me and then move a little bit, kind of bob and I went back

1022
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:04.399
the next day. There is nothing
in that line of sight. There is

1023
01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:09.119
nothing. Yeah, there's nothing back
there. You'd have to go, you

1024
01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:12.359
know, just woods pretty five hundred
to one thousand feet to the right or

1025
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:15.640
to the left for there to be
any properties. And you could see that

1026
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:18.960
what you were looking at was right
there, right, yeah, straight back

1027
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:23.560
where I was looking. There was
nothing somewhat close, so it was very

1028
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:28.319
person shining some sort of light.
There'd have to be some dude in ninja

1029
01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:31.760
suit with a flashlight for that to
have been replicated there, and even replicated

1030
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:34.359
it right, it would have illuminated
the whole forest. It wasn't even doing

1031
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:40.279
that. It behaved different anyway.
People wanted to know if something happened on

1032
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:45.600
Easter. Yes did Yeah, that's
wild man, It's bizarre. Yeah.

1033
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:48.680
When you when you came and told
me about it that next day, I

1034
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:54.039
was kind of mind blown, but
at the same time not right. You

1035
01:13:54.079 --> 01:14:00.800
know, some always happens around Eastern
always, yep, always excuse me,

1036
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:08.680
always, Well, dang man,
do you have any other questions for me?

1037
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:12.359
I don't think so. I feel
really good about everything. I mean,

1038
01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:15.359
how about you, you feel like
you? I feel great. I

1039
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:17.760
think I did all right. Yeah, I think you did excellent. I

1040
01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:21.479
probably look like a ding dong today
because I didn't shave real pretty, But

1041
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:28.880
Derek thinks I look good. Derek, he's sitting with us. Yeah.

1042
01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:32.960
Yeah, I think he's going to
make a great episode. Absolutely, d

1043
01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:39.199
He's been watching for close to twenty
years. From the outside. He knew

1044
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:43.640
me before well UFOs, yeah,
and well from this idea, but still,

1045
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:49.720
you know, he knew me before, and he saw me after and

1046
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:55.560
during through it all. Yeah.
Yeah, he can tell you how it

1047
01:14:55.840 --> 01:15:00.119
was, how I am, what's
happened, how I've changed it alway.

1048
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:05.359
It's always crazy to hear him explain
it to me. Yeah, I'm looking

1049
01:15:05.399 --> 01:15:11.520
forward to it. You feel resolved, like you, man, I do.

1050
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:14.720
I do feel a lot better.
I used to tell myself that I

1051
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:17.159
would never tell the story. Yeah, you know, and I didn't for

1052
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:20.600
many, many, many years.
So it is crazy to be in the

1053
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:25.880
public eye talking at all. For
me, it's crazy. Yeah, well

1054
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:28.880
I had other plans. But I
like it. I mean, I feel

1055
01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:33.039
like it needs to be said.
People need to know, even at at

1056
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:39.000
my expense. You know, I
may, I may look in a way

1057
01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:45.079
that I don't care to look like, but people need to know. Yeah,

1058
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.000
it's true. It's to hear the
truth. You went through all that

1059
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:53.159
for a reason so that you can
share it with other people and enlighten them.

1060
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:58.079
Yep. So something is going on. There's, without a doubt,

1061
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:00.680
one hundred percent, something freaking crazy
going on, and people need to know

1062
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:09.119
they can decipher it for themselves.
You know. I tend to think we

1063
01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:14.760
haven't even scratched the surface and that
it's gonna get crazier and crazier. And

1064
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:16.840
this past Friday night was a major
indication for me. Oh, we haven't

1065
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:23.319
mentioned this yet, so this is
going to air after the fact, but

1066
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:27.760
I just wanted to say this weekend, so right now it is Wednesday,

1067
01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.399
April third, when we're recording this. Also, how about that we're recording

1068
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:33.720
on a Wednesday. Pretty sick,
right? It used to be Saturdays three

1069
01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:36.439
in a row up till late at
night. I mean, this is nice,

1070
01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:40.199
man, We're living the life since
Nick lived here, moved here.

1071
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:45.439
Excuse me anyway, So this weekend
is the Azalia Festival. Junior's coming Dad,

1072
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:50.760
Mom are coming, Derek's coming,
Alex is coming, Nick is coming

1073
01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:59.680
in, Casey and then Jeremy and
then me and Jenny and Emily will arrive

1074
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:01.760
Sunday because we have an event out
of town. But my whole point is,

1075
01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:05.119
I'm so excited because I talked it
over with Dad for the last week

1076
01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:11.560
or so and we agreed that Sunday
night. All the people who are still

1077
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:14.760
local, who've traveled from out of
town, I've put the word out in

1078
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:18.119
the Discord, and anybody that I
happen to see at the booth on Sunday,

1079
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:23.279
I'm gonna be spreading the word,
like pulling people aside. We're organizing

1080
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:27.399
a SkyWatch on the beach. Did
I tell you about this? Oh?

1081
01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:30.479
Yeah, Sunday night. Yeah.
And if you can't be there, that's

1082
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:31.560
okay. I mean, if you
got to go back to Favue Sunday and

1083
01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:35.159
come back Monday, that's fine.
But it's for them, you know,

1084
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:40.760
because I wish we were doing it
Saturday night. You certainly can. I

1085
01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:43.840
just won't be there. Yeah,
I can't organize it. That sucks,

1086
01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:47.600
but you know, I mean you
can. Me and Alex is saying they

1087
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:49.479
can't. Yeah, that's up to
you, guys. You do whatever you

1088
01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:51.560
want to do. I'm just saying
I'm gonna be there Sunday, so I'm

1089
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:56.479
organizing it for Sunday. Perfect.
Dad'll be here. Y'all talk amongst yourselves

1090
01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:58.920
and figure out what you want to
do. We'll see what happens. I

1091
01:17:58.920 --> 01:18:01.319
mean, you're gonna be exhausted.
And I think the AZEA fest ends Friday

1092
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:05.119
and Saturday at like ten pm and
then yeah, yeah, I think so

1093
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:09.960
Friday and Saturday night. Yeah,
but then Sunday ends at like five or

1094
01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:13.840
six. So that's why it's a
little easier. On Sunday, we're gonna

1095
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:17.760
be working it don't get dark till
eight anyway. Yeah, but I'm just

1096
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:20.680
saying the festival is gonna end at
like ten. You guys are gonna be

1097
01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:25.239
too exhausted to go entertain crowds of
people that I'm just speculating. You do

1098
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:28.359
what you want to do. I'm
just saying I plan Sunday because I'll be

1099
01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:31.399
there Sunday. We may be able
to SkyWatch it the tent. I'm probably

1100
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:33.880
gonna be pretty bright. Hey,
I mean, anything can happen, bro,

1101
01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:38.560
anything can happen. I have seen
orbs downtown when I saw Robert Plant

1102
01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:42.000
and Alison Krause. I've told this
story recently on the message of the music

1103
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:44.600
episode. Yeah, I mean we
will be on the Cape Fair River.

1104
01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:47.560
Yeah, I've seen Orbs over the
Cape Fair River, over Robert Plant.

1105
01:18:47.560 --> 01:18:54.159
And that was the night that we
got the confirmation of the the we got

1106
01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:59.800
confirmation that the motion picture was ideal. I saw Orbs that night really over

1107
01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:02.279
the led Zeppelin singer. Yeah,
Covert Plant, he's still alive and he

1108
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:09.720
tours. I know Emily has seen
Orbs at a concert, and Jeremy as

1109
01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:13.000
well. Jam and Jeremy Yep,
Yep had a crew long been wanted to

1110
01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:16.119
go to a concert, then an
outside venue, an outside concert. But

1111
01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:19.159
anyway, my whole point is this, by the time this episode airs,

1112
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:21.239
it will have already happened. But
I just thought you guys would like to

1113
01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:25.800
know the update. We're trying.
We really do care, and we really

1114
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:29.199
are sincere when we say we want
to do some sort of public skywatching thing,

1115
01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:31.520
but our lives are just so busy. This is the perfect opportunity.

1116
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:34.399
People are moving from out or coming
in from out of town. I was

1117
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:36.840
very moved by that, so I've
already put out the word. If you're

1118
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:42.199
in the discord, you've already seen
all this, and we're going to try

1119
01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:46.479
to do some sort of public skywatching
thing if the weather's good. So hopefully

1120
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:48.640
that'll go well, and if so, we'll talk about it in a future

1121
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:51.199
episode. And either way, we'll
talk about it if we get to do

1122
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:55.960
it. So I'm excited about that. And otherwise, man, I mean,

1123
01:19:56.199 --> 01:20:00.000
I think it's been an amazing episode. I think it's probably the best

1124
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:05.239
one yet this one. Yeah,
best one with me? Oh, the

1125
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:10.279
best one yet, best one with
me? Perfect? Seriously, I doubt

1126
01:20:10.279 --> 01:20:13.640
that. But we'll see. It
feels good, we'll see, we will,

1127
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:15.840
you know. But the last one
was pretty good. It was epic.

1128
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:25.479
Yeah it was yeah, yeah,
I really I really dreaded that episode

1129
01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:31.399
before it aired. I thought a
lot about, you know, do I

1130
01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:34.399
really want to do this? Do
I not want to do this? But

1131
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:39.960
then I didn't want to let you
down and and I kind of I knew

1132
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:42.680
it needed to be done. But
you know, from my own image,

1133
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:46.039
I'm a business owner and a new
family and all, do I really want

1134
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:50.800
to do this again? But I'm
glad I did good. I'm glad I

1135
01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:56.199
did good and and I didn't watch
it for the longest time. I know

1136
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.760
I said that, But when I
went back and watched it, I was

1137
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.680
proud of myself. I did good, Yeah you did. I was worried

1138
01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:04.239
for nothing. Yeah, you did
really good. I thought so too.

1139
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:08.800
I worry about every single piece of
content we ever put out for nothing good.

1140
01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:12.439
You should? No, I mean
I worry, ask Alex, well

1141
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:15.680
you should? You should care?
That means you care. Well, it's

1142
01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:17.319
not care, it's worry, like, oh my god, I'm gonna ruin

1143
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:19.239
everything. It looks bad, and
this and that and the other. It's

1144
01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:23.039
just anxiety. It's just my own
worst enemy. It took me till three

1145
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:25.960
years in to finally stop asking all
the time. Was that a good one?

1146
01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:29.239
Yeah? You know, it's just
natural. Now I still think it,

1147
01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:31.560
but I just don't always ask anymore. But I think you're right.

1148
01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:34.680
It was a great episode. Oh
yeah, yeah, Yeah, this one's

1149
01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:38.600
gonna go down. It's gonna throw
down, and then we're gonna hold down.

1150
01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:42.239
Yeah. I'll be there for the
holdown. Yeah. This weekend?

1151
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:45.119
Sweet? All right? Man?
Well you know how we end them?

1152
01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:49.600
Right? Yeah? You do?
I think so? Bye, guys,

1153
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:53.640
Yeah, together to them all at
one time. Yeah, all right,

1154
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:59.479
bye bye guys. I love my
cheesy ending Richmond. Yeah that's great.

1155
01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:12.319
Weird things happened in the backyard bloods
O House and see it over. It

1156
01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:23.560
was so weird coming closer to us
here stay his straight up like smiring on

1157
01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:32.680
the inside of it. No one
knows, Mad, Wow, it's come

1158
01:22:32.880 --> 01:23:14.520
right. Ever got their super sold
driver kick happened at ha