It's the Downbeat on ninety seven one, the Free Bosby celebrity chef who was
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What do you know about Farah Abray? I know backdoor teen mom and still
and uh, I only because I googled her sixteen and pregnant, But I
don't know anything else. I guess I will do a little bit of research
yesday and to educate myself. But she's famous, right, it's a little
interesting. Yeah, she's well, you know, she was famous big time
back in the day. And she's been back to the news lately for a
social media bill that's passing over in Florida, and uh, she's been kind
of wanting to almost spread awareness to this, like why are we policing high
school? It's from being on social media. Why don't we police creepy adults
from being on social media? Like don't take away my daughter's sixteen year old
Like, don't take away her phone because she's getting dms for foot picks from
thirty four year old men. And it's an interesting take. We'll have her
on just to add to the Chris Catan week, and celebrity chef Tim Klowers
who joins the nine ten while are here Sarah Abraham tomorrow nine ten. If
you do read her Wikipedia, it kind of reads out as reality television personality,
singer, pornographic artist, actress and writer. So our guests this week
look like those that might be on an Entertainment Tonight show or an Eon Lion
show. It is very eclectic bunch. Yeah, it's the paddle Brade here
with everyone with everyone with everywhere sound a lot like somebody else. We might
get to Dingo's Morning News. We're still working on this Ja Jason Kidd conversation
because there's more to it. The national media went and buck wild with this
story. And we have got a caller or two way if you want to
weigh in two and four eight one seven seven eight seven one nine seven when
we can call in her text in and go off of this because you know,
we're just kind of kicking around at the back half of last segment,
Like the way Jason kidds said all this stuff saying that Luca is better than
Dirk might have just been a compliment to Luca, but if you want to
read deeper into it, and some of the terminology he used, such as
for as long as I'm here makes you go things aren't great right now,
and maybe he is on a short leash, maybe he doesn't make it through
the end of the year and the breakup. Thought of this comparison, he
might be the Avery Johnson to Luca's career. You know, Dirk had Don
Nelson, he had Avery Johnson, which is short. He did go to
the finals, it was short, and then he had Rick Carlisle, so
legendary coach for a long long time, Avery Johnson and then legendary coach for
a long time. And maybe the same thing here with Luca. From carlisles
into a short one with Kid and maybe a long term you know, maybe
more more of a head coach that ends up being a legendary head coach.
Maybe that's the way it goes, kind of the way it did with Dirk.
What's Phil Jackson doing? You know, let's get Phil. But we
can be wrong. Maybe it's speculation. It's like we're kind of just thinking
to much because it's possible. He is your Jason Kidd is the coacher for
five, six, seven years, it does not feel like things are all
good in hunky Dory right now, and maybe the best way to put out
that fire, even if you're being honest, is to amplify Luca is the
best he is an MJ conversation because I guarantee you Luca's approval, Well,
I say guarantee. I think Luca's approval means ten times more than Mark Cuban's
approval of Jason for his longevity here, I think so well. I think
Cuban's approval is dependent on Luca's approval, right. I think a lot of
things are dependent on the way Luca feels about about his place in this world
with the MAVs. And that's not different. That's like that in sports,
like dude, it's it's even more so in basketball, it seems, But
that's not This is not different than everywhere else. You would do whatever you
wanted. If Michael Jordan hated Phil Jackson, Phil Jackson would have been there,
like it will have been handled, you know. So there's some Slovenian
coach. Is that going too far? Maybe the old assistant, I mean
Holger never jockey to be the head coach. No, I don't think Dirk
ever even suggested it. Yeah, I know, maybe a similar comparison.
Though. Let's let's reset real quick. Let's replay the audio for those of
you that may or may not have heard it. You want to hear it
again. This is Luca. I'm sorry, this is Jason Kidd discussing Luca
right here on the downbeat yesterday morning before I'll say it. You know,
for as long as I'm here, he can't take this young man for granted,
he's better than Dirk. He's in the in the in the atmosphere of
MJ, the best to ever do at lebron Kobe. And so just to
appreciate what this young man is doing to day he's at twenty four is something
that Dallas has never seen and said this internally, he is better than Dirk.
He does things that Dirk could never do. And now it's you know,
the opportunity of getting the right people around him to ultimately win a championship.
You just said two times that Luca is better than Dirk. Dirk won
a title and had been to two Do you feel comfortable saying that on a
guy that has not made the even made the finals yet? Yeah, MJ
is the same way MJ didn't make it into his thirties. This young man
is twenty four and is breaking all the records that stand in front of him.
And he's a winner, and his ultimate goal is to win a championship,
and he will get there and not just you know, win one,
but he will win multiple on when it's all said and done, I want
to say something real quick, and I bet you guys might agree with me.
What what happened yesterday was a prime example, maybe even a microcosm,
of the way the sports teams in the media work. I think Jason Kidd
knew exactly what he was going to say yesterday, he had a platform to
say it, and I think that we were used for him to get that
message out to Luca Mike. He mentioned earlier, Sometimes the message resonates louder
when it said to somebody else and it's overheard by the person that it's directed
at, rather than it being directed personally to that person. I think it's
some times those things can go in one air and out the other, especially
when you're talking about maybe a more of a child slash parental relationship, which
in a way this kind of is. And we saw an opportunity knowing that
the quotes were pretty you know, could be perceived as somewhat explosive, and
we in turn use the quotes to possibly draw attention to what we do to
get some pub Yeah, knowing that because there was no context provided and Jason
Kidd was making a flat statement of a blanket flat statement about Luca being better
than Dirk, that a lot of national pundits were going to run with this,
and they did, and the cycle is over. I don't expect Jason
Kidd to get any follow up questions by the media tonight, do you.
I think it's yeah, okay, fifty to fifty, But you know,
the new cycle is typically twenty four hours, Especially on something like this.
People say what they want to say about it, which we'll get to in
a moment. We got some audio to play in the news last night,
the articles were written, and I think today, other than maybe one quick
follow up, hey, do you still stand by this? Blah blah blah,
you mentioned yesterday that you thought Luca's better than Dirk, and then I
think it gives him an opportunity to provide the context that all of the talking
heads have provided based on this, based on what he said yesterday. It's
a really interesting it's an interesting formula. It's an interesting dynamic. And you
see this happen all the time and in the world that we live in now
that everything is so divisive and everything's got to be subjective and debated and argued,
and Jason Kidd's an idiot. Man, Dirk won a title. No,
man, you're wrong. Luca is a better player than Dirk ever was.
Right. Now, then you get all that, and then what's the
next topic? All right, and then you move on. Yeah, and
it's forgotten. It's disposable. It's disposable content that people it with their short
attention spans. It's just like, let me snack on this and spit it
out. What's the next thing. There's not a lot to chew on here.
There's really not when you when you think about this as as something that's
real and meaningful. No, this is a formula and it happens every day
with pretty much every damn story that you see people commenting on on Twitter,
on or wherever. This is PTI fodder before before we play the nation,
I mean, what do you think, do you know my way off base?
Is it too much? Pulling the curtain back. Well, no,
but that's what almost every conversation about sports is and what most twenty four hour
either news or sports networks, that's exactly what they are. It's why Jerry
does quick topics to yell about and then move on. I guess I just
felt it interesting that that with a perfect example of that. It's a perfect
example of that, the fact that we were directly involved in it and got
to see it from from the birth until it's death, which will probably be
later today if if the questions even brought up to kid, but you'll never
hear about this again. Well, the funny thing is real quick. I'm
sorry. Two years ago, Dirk made these exact comments. Yeah right,
he's already been said. Dirk already said this about himself. Yeah, Jason
or Luca dncis is better than I ever was. He said that about on
all these national shows. Almost the same conversations that they had yesterday afternoon happened
two years ago. Yeah, like, oh, Dirk says Luke's better than
him, same exact debates, probably some of them verbatim. Yeah, recirculate,
recirculate. Okay, go ahead, let's up before we listen to the
national audio, which might give us some fun drops too in the future.
Let's go to a call her color JJ. Yeah, we got Giovanni from
Aubrey Jo. Good morning, g O, what's on your mind? Morning
morning. I definitely think that it's a psychological thing at this point. I
think that uh, Jason kid is a hanging on a thread and just kind
of cradle and Luke at this point because Luca is the only one saving his
job at this moment. There's no reason for us to be down seventy seven
points in a half to the Orlando Magic. They have nobody to support Luca.
Everybody already knows that lucas the All Star, like you all said,
Dirk has said in the past, this is all psychological game. He just
doesn't want to lose his job at this point. And I believe that you
do definitely need to surround Luca around some pieces because all these air balls.
I mean, you had Hardy, who's obviously an upcoming All Star going off,
well was it against the Magic? But tell me who else you had
Tim Hardaway three for twelve, I trade him, trade a surround this guy
with some pieces so we can win a championship. At the point, at
the point when Luca gets like, hey, you know what I'm done?
Screw this. I think Jason Kidd that knows that Luca is pretty frustrated at
the core that we have. And I don't just blame Jason Kidd. I
blame, of course, everybody else that they need to fill pieces around him
and what I've been. Thank you for your time, Joe, appreciate it.
Thank you for the call. I just said real quick. They have
tried, like you trade for Porzingis, that is an attempt. You trade
for Kyrie, that is an attempt. They don't know what they are yet
they go win games in the playoffs. We're not talking about that, and
we're probably not talking about Jason Kidd's security as a head coach. It is
funny, though that Jason Kidd in that clip did say that Luca will win
championships once we get people that can surround him, which is kind of an
indictment on the current roster. He didn't say that we have it now.
He said once we get people to surround Luca, then then he'll win those
multiple champions But showing him that you're trying is valuable. And with Porzingis and
Kyrie, they are they are consistently trying to get massive All star level players
in here, and they've done it twice. Now I think they can be
a top four team in the West with healthy Kyrie Luca and healthy Derek Lively
because he's important. Now this thing, I think that's a top four team
in the West, maybe five, maybe top five team in the West.
I'm pushing a little bit. All right, Let's talk about how this all
went down, because we knew we had a little something, and Kevin did
great on trimming it down and making it digestible. I suppose putting the transcribing
it and putting the words up on an image, you know, I mean,
it's kya buddy. Kent went and did that for us because we don't
know how to do it right. It's basic for some people, but we
have to do everything ourselves here. So you got someone named Kent to do
it, who we sent money to and cost us money out of our pocket
to get this done. But we knew it would be hot, and I
don't know, pull the curtain and tell him how how do you get it
from something that was just said on a radio station that definitely could use a
whole lot more listeners to something that's being talked about worldwide. Well, we
have go to people that you send it to immediately. Tim McMahon is the
ESPN contact. We've all known Tim McMahon for a long time. Uh.
Pete Friedman at Channel eight w f a A sent it to him. Dallas
News kind of has a site that you can send them stuff to and they
kind of pick and choose. I was surprised they they did put something up
and put our names and all that on their articles. I don't I never
know if they will there, and they did. They did. Yeah who
wrote the article? Oh you know what? I don't know, but uh
it was it was out you know, early this morning, late last night.
They had something. So said, all the TV stations in town,
all the outlets, but is it the magazine? Uh, put something up
and yeah, before he before he gets TMZ ends up with it. They
usually ended up with Tim McMahon wrote an article. That's the thing. They
like that, that's what spread it. Yes, because the second the ESPN
dot Com article dropped, then it was on ABC News, it was on
Sports Illustrated. Those are probably the biggest ones at that point. And then
of course, uh, then you got your evening sports uh talk shows,
You've got your pt I s, you've got Sports Center, things like that.
And then later on at New York Post, I believe Nicky, you
sent me a New York Post article at like ten last night. I was
surprised to see TMZ get it. I sent it to my buddy or who's
at Fox, just because he's and he was like, we don't do a
lot of NBA stuff, but I'll send it. And I was like,
dah, I could see that getting on FS one and it might get there
today, you know, but they're talking about Travis and Taylor, so like,
you know, you never know over there, but I was. I
was shocked to see TMZ get it. That was kind of wild. But
so that's that's basically trimming the audio down to where it's a quick cut email
it out to him. You're texting these people going do you want this?
And please credit the downbeat on ninety seven to one the freak, so which
almost all of them did. Yeah, Okay, here is on pardon pardon
the interruption with Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbond's all right on that, okay.
Former Monday Night football analyst Tony Gornheiser. Here's a twenty six second clip of
them, and they do credit the freak. Let's go to the big finish.
Let's still see a Kid told nineties seven point one the Freak. I'm
sure you're all familiar with that. That Luca is better than Dirk Clause and
it's in the act sphere of Michael, Jordan, Lebron and Kobe. I'll
bet you agree with that. Not. I love Jason Kidd. He knows
what he's saying. He's a brilliant basketball mind over decades, but he hadn't
played his first lick of defense Luca and Jason Kidd, who was a great
defender, knows that. No, okay, okay, Will Bond's also very
anti analytics. It's very old school. So I'm not surprised that. I'm
sure you've heard of that. I mean, I like that they said the
name dude first of that again, just so we have it. I've got
that. I thought I thought Michael Wilbon could have placed his no to end
that clip, maybe earlier in the clip, so I did an edit myself.
Let's go to the big finish less Joson Kid told ninety seven point one
the freak. I'm sure you're all familiar with that. No, no,
we are not. Do you think that the do you think that the serious
sports talkers just see the freak and go, oh god, what is I
thought we were the game or the net. It is funny to be in
this position because it was fun yesterday, like refreshing it and you can just
google news. It is fun and I would just call Luca Dirk and Google
news, check it on Twitter and watch it kind of blow up. And
then I'm the guy because we always say breaking news, a trade in the
NBA credited to shams, you know, or like they credit it kind of
and I'm like, who cares who gets the credit? But in this case,
I'm like, come on, say the name baby. We need this,
yeah, some juice, right, And then I read the article and
make sure it was in there. I'm like, all right, good,
thanks. Some of them actually put our names in there. It's kind of
cool. So then PTI was on I Live like five thirty to six or
five to five thirty, and then Sports Center takes over and this was their
teas right off the bat. This is sports In with Hannah Store and Kevin
Na Gandhi. Well, welcome to sports everybody. We have a packed sixteen
minutes for you tonight. We are live with the Lakers and the Knicks and
the sound bite that you absolutely have to hear as a basketball Hall of Famer
compares Luca DUTCHI Michael Jordan. Wow, oh that is joke. I mean
the sound bite you absolutely that is also everything I hate about sports media.
Now that but that's great. Oh, by the way, Hannah's Storm cool
chick. Yeah, Houston super Bowl hung out, awesome, very nice.
Why are you winking I don't know, I'm winking out there was a coworker
of ours at the time who probably should have had some harassment allegations. You
have a kidding Obviously, she's a great talent, Kevin. So, as
you do with any big story, you you tease it, you package it,
you make people sit through stuff to get to the big story. Well,
Hannah Storm brought on Tim Legler, Okay, noted NB a former Maverick,
great three former sniper. That's right. Yeah, and she had Tim
on and this whole package is like three minutes long. I'm not going to
play all of it. I'll play you just a little bit. So you
can just kind of get a little bit of a flavor and then I'll tell
you why the freak got snubbed a little bit by ESPN. Great, all
right, last night, Tim Maverick star Luka Danchic scored forty five points and
was just a rebound shy of a triple double in a two point win over
the Magic. We all know we had seventy three on Friday, nearly thirty
five points a game this season, second only behind your ragning MVP Jo well
Embi and his head coach had this comparison. You can't take this young man
for granted. He's better than Derek. He's in the Okay, we've heard
this audio. And typically when they play a cut that is from a source
other than their own, and sometimes even if it is their own, they'll
credit, oh, this was on the Tony Kornheiser Show or whatever it was.
They'll have a little girl, they'll have a picture of kid who's the
one speaking. They may have like a little audio graphic showing that it's like
a wavefile or a wiggly line or something, and then it'll credit in uh
in text up above the top. They did this on PTI when they played
the clip, but they did not do this. They did not verbally mention
the station, nor when they this during this entire three minutes, did they
play did they show a graphic crediting uh the audio source from our show or
this radio station, or not to mention any of us one, four,
all threes. It's trace, trace, trace, This is negligence. I
thought that was pretty uh interesting. I was a little kind of bummed,
you know, because you look, Hell, I'm not unashamed to admit,
and Mike you said it. It's fun. It's cool to get some juice,
it's cool to see something that you were involved in kind of blow up
and go viral. It doesn't happen every day. So if you're not going
to enjoy those moments a little bit, then why the hell are you doing
this? And we can downplay it all we want, So, yeah,
you know news cycle twenty four hours and which I already did, and this
isn't really that big of a deal. But look, you may, you
may piss on the Grammys all you want, but if you're an artist and
you win one, it feels probably pretty damn guess and full pull the curtain.
We need it. Yeah, at our previous place, it might have
only been the Hey cool, that was our interview today because let's face it,
we need a lot of a lot of people in the world now.
Don't go seeking out good content. They have to be told that it's good.
It has to be they have to be told that it's reputable. And
if they see that up there, oh my god, the freak was on
ESPN, they must be good. Right, maybe I'll listen. And so
when we were hoping for a little credit from the big brother, you know,
National ESPN on Sports Center, which is you know, it's still relevant.
I guess we were on NBA today though, and then they did the
whole thing, but our names up there and stuff. That was cool.
I think our bosses were very happy with the way yesterday went. Yeah,
that was it was really fun. We crawled out of the dokhouse yesterday.
Boys. Welcome back to freedom. They called it a stay of execution.
Let's go snack on our dry food. All right, Well, if we
have anything else on that, we'll get to it here in a little bit.
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