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But I don't know it. Wow, Windows Gata, Welcome everybody here,

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we go Happy Monday. It is
Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live from

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the studios of w m n H
ninety five point three FM and Glorious Downtown

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Manchester, New Hampshire, also on
Comcast ninety seven in Manchester. And hello

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to all of our online listeners across
the nation and around the globe. You

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can go to my website Matt Connerton
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Today is Monday, May one,
twenty twenty three, and I'm not

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alone. Best Jenny is here at
the news desk. Hello with her crown,

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her tiara, my crown. Thank
you very much. Yes, yes,

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and where where did that come from? Again? This came from half

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Lucid Jewelry. Would you can check
out at half lucid Jewelry dot com.

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Yes, and I say that because
not they're not sponsors, but I love,

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love, love this work. You
have to go check her out,

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her jewelry, her handcrafted jewelry.
Kendra Saunders is a very crip Kendra Els,

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Kendra al Sanders Forgive Me is a
very talented individual. She makes earrings

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and all kinds of necklaces and of
course lovely crowns. She's also a published

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author, Yes, yeah, and
she's been on the show many times over

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the years. I actually met her
because of her author yea authorship, that's

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right, she'd say, yes,
I am suporting my Lucid Dreams crown.

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It's a perfect week for it.
Why is that because across the ponds getting

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his crown this weekend? Oh I
forgot about that. Didn't that already happen?

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No, not much of an anglophile. I don't pay that much attention

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to avoid it. It's like at
nauseum in the news. Yeah, I

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don't know. So now he'll officially
be the king. He's not. He's

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not officially King Charles until that happens. He's officially King Charles. But something

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about the crowning and then the people
are supposed to pledge their allegiance. Oh

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gosh, yeah. I think they
treat people through in front of him,

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going oh you support I crown,
my my swear, my allegiance to use

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it, and they like go through
one at a time, and I think

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there's some swords and stuff. Oh
swords, Yeah, I know. They

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stick a tent over his head when
he annoint him a tent. Yeah,

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he can't see that part, I
guess. Wow, when he comes out,

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he's like and like when he comes
out from yes for real, and

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then like when he comes out of
the tent um judy, isn't they call

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it a Hoopah? Yeah, I
think that's they say it. It's the

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uh, it's for weddings. But
in this case, like they seriously do

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they put this like tarp over him
on poles over his head while he's in

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the special chair. It's like the
thousand year old special chair, which on

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close look was really kind of gross
and peture. Yeah, but then they

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bless him or something like God's finger
comes down and anoints his forehead. So

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when he comes out, God's actual
finger comes down inside the tent special anointing.

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Wow. So he is officially the
head of the Church of England.

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Wow. Yes, anointed by God. Yes, under a tent, under

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a tent some oils or something.
Wow, incense. I think they throw

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incense at him. Oh really,
they shoot it at him, you know,

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like Catholics do choose the little thing
even Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Wow for those who can't see me
moving my arm. Yeah. Great radio,

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Jenny, great radio. Yeah.
Well, no, I know what

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you mean. You know, I
was raised Catholic kind of what you mean

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with the thing. But it's not
the Catholic Church though, right, Protestants,

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the Church of England. So yeah, they're they're Protestants, right,

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Yeah, yeah, I think that's
how that works. Wow, but I

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guess it takes a long time.
Oh really, what a long time?

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And he's in the tent. No, No, that part I think is

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fairly quick. I think after the
tent thing is when he comes, they

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give him the orb and the and
the orb. There's an orb. There's

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a crowned orb that goes in one
hand and the other hand is like accepter

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and he's got to like hold them
with this like fifty pound crown on his

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head and walk down holding them.
Oh yeah, medievalism right up front.

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Listen, everybody, this this is
why we fought the Revolutionary War because orbs

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and scepters and tents and God's finger
and the thing that you shake at the

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incense and whatever. This is this
is why, this is why we had

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to break away. This is the
real reason This is what they won't teach

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you in school. They in school. See they in school, they don't

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teach you. You know, they
teach you about the Revolutionary War, but

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they don't teach you the real reason. So not to It was about taxes

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on tea. No, that's a
cover that's a cover story. See that's

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what the oh you mean to see
illuminati. That's what these these schools,

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these these these public schools with their
liberal teachers, they teach you it was

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about that. No, here's here's
what it really was about. It was

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about orbs and scepters and swords and
tents and God's finger. That's what it

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was really about. Yes, well
that too, that's what it was really

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about it and that's why that's why
we had to break away. And I'm

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glad we did. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what na clombs going

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here? No sorry, no no, no a dream of chrone. No

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orbs, no scepters, no swords, no God's finger in the tent.

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Uh, none of that. We
shan't have that here because this is America.

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But yes, well there you go. Well that's very exciting. So

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that's this week. Yeah, this
week's fifth Okay, not right. Well

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that's that's every freaking news channel every
few minutes is more on that. How

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many times they can say the same
thing sixteen different ways. I don't know

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how I've escaped it, but I've
escaped it. I haven't spent a lot

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of time flipping between news channels because
they stopped talking about the news and started

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giving me orbs and scepters and so
my Yeah, well, I mean I

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can say some's going to come back
and it might be twenty four hours that

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he's in state. And seriously,
I've heard too much of this today.

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Wow. I literally have flipped stations
numerous times. Yeah. I usually listen

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to a lot of news from around
yea, the world anyway. Yeah,

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the globe, Yes, I guess
that's the one. They hand him a

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little or globe. Oh, they
hand him an actual orb. That means

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he's like metaphorically holding up the earth. Well, I was gonna say,

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I see when I when I think
of orbs, I think of you know,

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you take a picture and you see
a little sprinkles of light in the

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picture afterwards, which doesn't seem to
happen with cell phone cameras, only with

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yeah, traditional photography. Um,
now that you mentioned it there, Yeah,

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you ever notice that? Yeah?
I actually no, that's not true.

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Really nope. I got orbs on
film on my camera phone and it's

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actually on my Facebook page from a
long time ago Salem trip. Oh you

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were we were at the cemetery,
oh, or all the which people were

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buried? Huh? And we took
pictures and there were orbits there were and

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these were cameras. Really yep.
Wow, m that's a song, isn't

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it. Woke up this morning there
were orbs in my camera? Orbs in

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my camera? Isn't that a song? No? It's Scarle Simon right.

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No, who do you think that's
really about orbs in my camera? I

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don't think she ever revealed his No, No, I don't know. I

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you know, I'm I have a
terrible head injury. Um so I could

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Melanie is already making comments that I
can't read on the air, but

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I will seriously, there's something wrong
with but I really wish, wish that

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I could, oh boy, see
things I never think about getting my parents.

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But six O three, two five
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should mention two. The week coming
up, we have Abner two. Is

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it Abner two or Abner the second
coming in tomorrow? Now that you said

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that, I think at Abner two
it's Abner two. Will be our musical

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guests dot tomorrow afternoon. If I'm
wrong tomorrow we're actually recommended by by Slim

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volume. Ah, very good,
very good, yep, So I look

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forward to that. They will be
here live in studio tomorrow. Wednesday,

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we have Factory of Art and they
are from are they from another country?

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They are they are from Germany.
So they'll be skyping in obviously skyping in

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it'll be about eleven o'clock their time, and then skyping in at five o'clock

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our time. And then Thursday we
have Kevin Hammer, who's going to be

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either skyping or calling skyping skyping.
He is. He came to us through

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our friend Billy p and interesting guy
he's he's a Republican from New York State

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and from what Billy told us,
he's a walk away from the Democratic Party,

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used to be a Democrat. Apparently
he's gay but so, which is

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interesting because there's a lot of anti
LGBTQ stuff going on these days on the

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party that he walked away too.
So so I don't know that'll be interesting.

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He sounds like an interesting guest,
but he also apparently is someone who

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really likes to speak with someone who
speak with people he doesn't necessarily agree with,

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and likes to have a productive and
intellectual discussions instead of existing in an

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echo chamber. And I'm always down
to talk to people like that because that's

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difficult to find and it's a wonderful
thing when we find it. So it

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is. And of course also on
Friday, we'll have Eric Pilter's Classic film

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review and our old friend Truth is
going to be calling in you know,

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yes with a brand new release,
brand new release world radio premiere. I

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think yes, I do believe we
are getting the premiere. Yes, yes,

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he does remember us. Yes,
we are one of his favorites.

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Absolutely. Yes, this is truth. That's a sweatshirt I wear often with

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the semicolon on it. He does
a lot of work in the area of

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preventing suicides. Talking about our mental
well being. Yep, but you know

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you said something before. You know
who I have that rapport with is Heather.

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Heather Stockwell. Her and I,
oh wait, she's coming out.

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I forgot she maybe coming in.
She's a maybe for four o'clock on Wednesday.

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Okay, there might be something getting
in the way, but she's gonna

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let me know. But her and
I have had some really awesome conversations,

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you know, and on things that
we agree, boy, you know,

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we just bolster each other right up. But on the things that we have

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disagreed and that we do vehemently,
we both fear are very strong women in

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our in our positions, we do
so with the utmost respect for one another,

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and we always like, never get
it, it never goes that far.

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We respect each other's endpoint that I'm
not going to change her, she's

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not going to change me. But
we've had that healthy dialogue and I really

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enjoy having those conversations with her.
So okay, so she's a maybe for

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Wednesday. Yeah, she's gotcha,
gotcha all of that, that's what you

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get out of it. Huh,
what she's a maybe for Wednesday? Yeah,

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she's maybe for Wednesday. Yeah.
I was referring more to her having

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the wonderful conversations with people. Yes, oh my, where are you today?

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Well, No, I was going
to while we were mentioning that,

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I was going to say, did
you want to update us on the petition?

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Because that that involves her? It
does actually absolutely how the Stockwell is

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a force to be reckoned what she
is always working and from what I've seen,

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I don't I don't know whish she
finds time for herself to be honest

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because she's always doing these things.
She's actually the reason that I am in

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the position that I'm in now with
this now national campaign. And it was

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she had an event over at the
Hopknot for New Hampshire Rights and Democracy and

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I just loved everything that they did
and we had great dialogue and everything,

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and that's how I met the people
from People's Action, who are an umbrella

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group. Basically there's about forty or
so national organizations a part of them,

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and all of these people have joined
forces together to get behind me and try

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and get United Healthcare to pay for
the care that I need to live.

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In the face of them reporting eight
point one billion dollars in first quarter profits

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in three months, they've made more
than you know, you or I are

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going to see it I don't know
how many lifetimes. So it's hard when

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you know they're not covering things that
you're paying through the nose for right,

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I'm really amazed by the work that
these people have done and what they've done

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to support people in my community and
really getting the word out that complex regional

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pain system syndrome is very real and
very deadly to people who get it,

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and small fib ineropathy is no picnic
and we deserve to be treated. And

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with their help and with some help
of some experts in this that have taught

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me things, we've actually gotten a
huge win that I didn't think was ever

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going to happen. They have officially
agreed to pay for my chatamin infusion for

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the treatment of CRPS and small five
ineropathy. And that's that's outstanding, that's

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um and I know that that's because
of all the efforts of all these people

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and all that work that's going on
right now. We've got about a little

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over thirty nine hundred signatures on the
petition. We're still collecting it, we're

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still talking about it. We cannot
let the story go silent. What my

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hope is that is to be that
you know, that that first one that

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gets those codes issued and then we
get to use them for everybody else,

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because they can't say yes to me
and not to somebody else. And it

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is literally approved for the treatment of
CRPS. In my prior authorization, we

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literally explained the disease and noted that
it is called the suicide disease, noted

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that it has zero approved treatments anywhere. So if you're waiting for an improved

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treatment to then cover me, it's
not going to happen. We haven't gotten

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anything approved. And this disease was
discovered over two hundred years ago, so

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that excuse for not covering was pushed
out and the United Healthcare had to take

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a serious look at what is wrong
with my body and what it takes to

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keep me alive and functional on a
daily basis. So we've won that,

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and that's, like I said,
that's huge, and that's going to be

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super beneficial to my community. We
have not one in some other instances.

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You know, for instance, I
didn't know this Medicare. Medicare products do

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not cover compression for venus and sufficiency
in the legs unless you have an ulcer,

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which is a sore, so rather
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they only allow coverage for compression if
you got the sore. That's a

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federal change we need to make.
That's something that's going to take the work

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of all of us to push for. We shouldn't be waiting for somebody to

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have an open wound to treat them. We should do it beforehand. Compression

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for my upper body for my lymphidima
arm in hand has been approved. Working

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right now with the insurance company to
find a supplier that we can order from,

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and I am going to start getting
compression for that for the first time

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ever. All of these things started
in twenty thirteen. We are now in

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twenty twenty three, and it has
taken all this time, and I'm finally

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going to have insurance coverage for some
of the more serious things that are wrong

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with me, that are wrong with
so many others out there, and I

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understand now why so many people don't
do this, And I don't know that

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I could have done it without help. I've spent hours on the phone,

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literally hours. I last Friday's call
was about two and a half hours,

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three hours long to get through this
process, to do all of these appeals

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and prior authorization requests, and it's
it's daunting, it's exhausting. Yeah,

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I would have been able to go through

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all of this without having some support
and knowing that there are people out there

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willing to help and jump in if
I do get stuck. So I have

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a question, So, how does
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that mean that they can't say no
to other people too? Not that I'm

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aware of, no, but I
think it makes it harder for them to

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do so. Can't cover it in
one patient and not another. Well,

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that's what I mean. Those they're
a legal component to that or are you

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just talking principally. I think the
component mostly is going to be an educational

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one to try and then take this
information. Now, this is one health

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insurance company. Yeah, there are
people out there with Blue Cross, Blue

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Shield and they have got you know, Pilgrim Health and all these other ethno

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signa insurance companies that don't cover us. My win with United Healthcare opens the

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door, but we need to really
push everybody through. There's somewhere around one

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hundred and ninety thousand people in the
United States that have CRPS. But that's

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one disease that ketamine infusions have been
shown to treat. High dose ketamine infusions

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are being used to treat all other
rare diseases like small fiber neuropathy. There

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are people that are benefiting from this
and not having And here's the kicker.

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You don't have to be on opioids
in our conducts when you get this treatment

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right, you can. You know, for a lot of people, for

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myself included, it was to get
it got you off that because instead of

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covering up your symptoms, it's actually
treating your symptoms, decreasing the inflammation and

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the pain. That's a good thing
to clarify for people too. Yes,

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you know, it's a treatment.
It's not something that you you then go

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on no, no, no,
this is well it is and this is

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why it's very hard to find a
provider actually doing the treatment. No it's

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difficult. It's on a medication that
it's not something you're taking everybody. It's

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not that, because I do sense
that people kind of misunderstand that part of

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it. No, that's a good
point. I'm glad you raised that it's

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an infusion, that's it causes it's
used. I'm sorry, I got a

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little tum twisted. They start an
IV on me, and they give me

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a lot of supportive medications that are
to keep me sedated so I don't wake

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up and feel the medication, medications
to keep my blood pressure and checked.

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They have to monitor me on equipment
and it takes about four hours for the

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infusion to fully run. And then
I'm I'm wasted for the day. Like

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I can't function, My brain doesn't
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up puking. It's just you know, the side effects of it. But

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it has to be done in with
the doctor. It has to be why

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you're monitored. They can't, you
know, just sticky in a corner and

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forget about you. They have to
check on you, you know. Basically

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they I think they do like fifteen
minute vital cycle, vital sign logins.

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Yeah, and it's not something that
can be done at home like other infusions.

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Like you know, I had an
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we had gone to giving me IVG, that could have been home infused.

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But the thing about ketamine infusions is
that it is a sedative. It does

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have higher risk factors for you know, sedating you too much and causing respiratory

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to depression, depression or not,
you know, messing up, messing your

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heart up, or dropping your pressure. So it requires more monitoring and it

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really requires a doctor in the building
in the very least. Yeah, so

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that it's not considered. Insurance companies
basically use it as an excuse because it's

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not proved by the FDA for this
treatment. They use that as an excuse

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to not cover it. They also
use as an excuse. And this is

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where I argue with them on ketamine, as they argue it's an off label

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usage, and I argue that that
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that as us ketamine is prescribed to
be used for sedation. Ketamine is prescribed

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to be used for pain. It
is on ambulances and can be used for

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pain. It can be used to
sedate somebody on an ambulance. It is

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used in the emergency department oftentimes with
children who need a joint reset, have

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broken something, you know, and
they're resetting it. So sedation and pain

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are absolutely on label reasons for giving
this medication, but they call it off

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label because it's not specified for CRPS. But nothing is specified for CRPS,

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literally nothing. YEA. Getting the
insurance company to cover my infusions opens the

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door for other patients to get their
infusions covered. We can talk to about

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what kind of language to use,
how to present your case. A lot

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of it is how you present yourself
when it comes to the insurance companies.

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That I'm learning more about this as
I go along, because this is an

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area that is not my expertise.
But what is an area that I can

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draw from is my medical career.
So the language that I'm able to use

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or to pull up. And I'm
a writer, so as I've gone through

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this process, I've learned how to
kind of word things and how to paint

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the picture for them so they can
understand what's going on with me. It's

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not good enough to say you're in
pain. What you need to do is

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describe that you feel like you're on
fire. It wrapped in Bob wire and

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somebody's shoving shards a glass under your
feet because that's what it feels like.

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They need to understand what you're actually
You can't just say pain, so,

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you know, much like we do
in ems, you paint the picture for

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the hospital as you're coming in to
tell them what they're getting. It's up

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to you to tell that, you
know, tell them all the tools they

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need, so when you arrive there, you know, if there's a cardiologists

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needed, they're write down there.
Same thing with these insurance companies. You

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have to paint that picture and tell
them what you're going through, what could

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happen without treatment, And in my
instance with the Kademy infusions, I'm much

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like a lot of patients out there, most patients out there. I have

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paid for this one hundred percent out
of my pocket all these years, and

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the only reason and I sit here
is because I've done it myself. Finally

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getting the insurance company to do their
job and cover the treatments that I mean,

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keeping me alive shouldn't have taken this
long, but it should be.

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It should open the door for more
people to get coverage and more people to

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get access. I think that's the
wost heartbreaking thing when you talk to people

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who have these diseases and can benefit
by this treatment and the only thing is

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they can't access it because they can't
afford the treatment. They don't have the

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ability to sell off everything, you
know, they don't have the ability to

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borrow or have people gift you money
or whatever it is so you can get

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into the treatment. They're stuck without
it. And the only way they're going

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to get a chance at getting out
of that bed and getting better is going

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to be for insurance companies to stop
up and pay for these life saving infusions.

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Yeah, all right, well that's
all positive, then that's good.

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Yeah, I'm really pleased with how
it's going. And I will say that

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the United Healthcare worker that it's been
working with me has actually been really good.

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Yeah. I felt like that person
was going to be an adversary,

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but they're actually listening and learning about
what I'm going through, and they're actually

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helping me go through these process without
feeling so stressed out or feeling like I

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have to win or something over them. I don't have to win over them,

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right, you know. That's been
a huge learner for me too.

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Yeah. Yeah, excellent, excellent, all right, m and then if

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Heather, if Heather does come on
Wednesday, she can tell us more too

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about you know, because she's been
involved in the process with this. Oh

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yeah, wow, absolutely Is that
the interview you did with I just remember

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this too. I've been meaning to
ask you, but I'll ask you here

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because this is a oh I think
I know you get ask me. Yeah,

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the interview you did with or he
interviewed you at Opperman on the Opperman

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Report. Is that available yet?
I don't know that I'm aware of.

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I don't think that's available just yet. And it's a new article that I

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got a notice from the editor from
the Mighty Yeah. Also talking about having

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to buy your way into healthcare.
That should be coming out probably within the

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next couple of weeks. Excellent,
well, very good, very good.

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All right, Well, if you'd
like to join us on the program six

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three two five six seven, the
studio line is open six three two five

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six seven. We'll go ahead and
say hello everybody in the Facebook live chat.

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Let's see Jenny, I see you're
in there. Rabbits, Rabbit,

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rabbits. That's what you're supposed to
say. Why the first day of the

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month. It's good luck in England. I didn't rabbits rat. I didn't

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know that. Yeah, okay,
yeah, no idea. Yeah. Jay

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Fed joins us and says good afternoon
Melanie. Of course, as I mentioned,

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is in the Facebook live chat.
Yes, she had a very specific

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question about a half lucid jewelry,
a specific item she's looking for for her

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Mother's day, but for her mom. Yes, yeah, no, very

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nice. I love you. I
don't think Kendrew makes us. EASYG also

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joins us, whereof EASYG joins us
in the Facebook laugh out and says happy

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May Day. Good to see you, buddy. I know you've been under

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the weather for a couple of days
to days May first has he? Yeah,

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well you know what I think is
going on there? Uh that.

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Look, I'm not a medical doctor, boy, and uh, of course

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I haven't seen EASYG in person.
So even if I was a medical doctor,

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I'm not. You know, I'm
certainly not qualified to to make any

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assessments or diagnoses. No, you're
not. But I will just say this.

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I'm just gonna throw this out there, and I want easy if you're

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if you're still listening, I want
you to really consider this. Um.

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I think that uh I think that
Bruce is slowly poisoning. That's what you're

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going to do. I think Bruce
has been poisoning him. I'm sorry,

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Eric, I tried. And I
think because you know, you know how

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I feel about Bruce. I don't
trust him. And I think that Bruce

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is UH after Easyg's vast fortune because
you know, we all know, because

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you know, he's got that fanny
pack, and I think there might be

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a gold bar in there or something. So I think Bruce thinks he's going

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to he's going to inherit Easyg's fanny
pack. So he's been poisoning in him.

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And I would just say, I
would just say keep an eye on

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him. I wouldn't actually Easyg.
I wouldn't actually confront Bruce directly. I

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think that could be very dangerous,
but i'd keep an eye on him.

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My dad is in the chat room
and says, good show, guys,

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I have too ready to go upstairs. Sometimes in the Facebook live chat,

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my dad talks like he's from Greensboro, North Carolina. Have you I think

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they've been in the UH. They
also show up, of course, in

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our chat room on Friday nights for
Retrospectrum Radio. I noticed that. Yes,

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they're very enthusiastic about retrospect Oh,
while we're at it too, we

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should give that a quick plug before
we get into some some stuff. Because

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Paul Paul See, of course from
Retrospectrum Radio did post earlier what the theme

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will be for this Friday night.
Um. Sometimes he doesn't decide until later

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in the week, but he already
he's already got this one figured out.

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He posted Friday night on Retrospectrum Radio, It's time to test your musical agility

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once again. Agility, Um,
I think he means acuity. Uh,

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WHOA your quickness? You want your
brain to be quick like a rabbit.

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It's all about the rabbit today,
I guess I think yeah, I think

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quick action, you know, mental
gymnas. I don't think that's what he

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thinks is. We'll play twenty five
songs that all have something in common.

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Let's see how smart you are.
The fun starts at a pm Eastern.

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Do join us and that will be
of course, uh, this Friday night

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from eight to eleven PM. Of
course, I have the honor and privilege

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of being one of Paul's co hosts
on that show along with DJ Steve,

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and I believe finally this Friday,
the return of Mike from Queen City Cabinetry.

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Queen City Cabinetry one of our great
sponsors here at WMH ninety five point

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three, but also Mike is one
of Paul's co hosts on Retrospectrum Radio.

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He joined us for a couple of
episodes and then he got horribly injured,

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and uh, he's finally, he
says, come hell or high water.

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He will be making his return this
Friday night to Retrospectrum Radio with policy.

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So we uh we look forward to
that. I'm great. I think that's

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awesome. Finally, back, Jay
Fed says, does anyone ever win those

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contests? The last one Paul did? I guessed it correctly. I guess

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them correctly. Yeah, yeah,
usually usually Well, speaking of music,

405
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:51,359
so I'm very interested in this,
uh, this lawsuit, this uh ed

406
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,519
Sharon being sued by the estate of
Marvin Gay. I have some feelings about

407
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:59,200
this. And part of why this
is so interesting to me is, of

408
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:02,720
course, you know my own background
in the music industry, and you know,

409
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:04,799
I've I've written a lot of songs, and uh, I've been in

410
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,279
a lot of bands, and I
don't know if you knew that Melanie in

411
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:10,880
the chat room. I've been in
some bands, but no, this kind

412
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,799
of thing. Been in some bands, have yeah, I have, I

413
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,079
don't know. I don't know if
you knew that. Yes, I've been

414
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:21,480
in one hundred and seventy four different
bands. Right, so, uh so

415
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:25,920
this is, uh, this is
particularly interesting to me, and of course

416
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,039
I'm also it's interesting to me in
another way too. I've always said,

417
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,440
you know, if I had gone
to law school, if I had been

418
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:36,839
that, if if that had been
my my calling, I would probably want

419
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,480
to specialize in something like a copyright
or trademark law, you know, intellectual

420
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:44,599
property, that kind of thing.
I'd probably be an entertainment lawyer. In

421
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,119
other words, because I find these, uh, these matters particular particularly interesting.

422
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,240
But this is if you haven't been
following this now, there's an update

423
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:57,640
here from CNBC dot com ed Sharon
oh And coincidentally, when Peter Pappas was

424
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,119
here with us on Thursday with which
was great. By the way, if

425
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,720
you missed it, please go back
and listen. We do archive all the

426
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:07,240
shows at WMNH Radio dot org.
When Peter Pappas was here, most of

427
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,480
the songs that he played that day
were of classic artists like Neil Young and

428
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,279
Paul Simon and so forth. But
but he did do an Ed Sheeran song.

429
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,200
He wanted to do something modern.
Um, so I loved everything he

430
00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:22,599
did. Oh great voice, yeah, very very talented. And he did

431
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,079
the thing too where he plays the
harmonica while he's playing the guitar, you

432
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,319
know, while he's singing, which
is back and forth between the three.

433
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,960
Well, the thing is what impresses
me about that is, so if you're

434
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,160
singing, if you're playing guitar and
you you're doing the harmonica with the whatever

435
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,200
that contraption is that holds the harmonica
in place, you're literally playing two instruments

436
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,400
at once. I think it's just
the harmonica hold. Pretty impressive. I

437
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,319
don't know he didn't know what it
was called. I didn't know what it

438
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:51,799
was called, harmonica holder. It's
gotta gotta have a fancier name than that,

439
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,599
like maybe not like, I don't
know what it could be. But

440
00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:57,759
anyway, that's impressive to me.
He did do an Ed Sheeran song.

441
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,119
I don't remember which one it was, but so Ed Shearon is being sued

442
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:10,799
for allegedly copying Marvin Gay. Here's
where the trial stands. I don't remember.

443
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:17,079
I can't remember what Melanie said in
the chat room, like a Stormy

444
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,720
Daniels kind of entertainment lawyer. No, I wouldn't want to be her lawyer

445
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:24,119
because what's his name? That guy? Oh, what is what is his

446
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,279
name? Michael something? The guy
who was representing Stormy Daniels, who was

447
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:32,400
on MSNBC so often that I was
sure he was going to end up with

448
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,480
his own show on MSNBC. He's
he's in prison now? Really? Yeah?

449
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,839
Yeah? Did he embezzel her money? I don't know what did he

450
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,119
go to jail for. That might
have been, that might have been part

451
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,559
of it. I don't remember exactly, but yeah, he turned out.

452
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:51,000
He turned out to be a bad
guy. Melanie says in the chat I'm

453
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,039
not even going to tell you where
my mom holds her harmonica. Well,

454
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:58,079
Mother's Day is coming. It is
that month, right, yeah, month

455
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,720
of May, Yes it is.
Let's see. So this is some key

456
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:06,480
points here from again, this is
from CNBC. ED Sharon was in Manhattan

457
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:12,359
federal court this week for a copyright
infringement trial involving his twenty fourteen hit Thinking

458
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,039
Out Loud. The airs of Late
Ed Townsend, who co wrote Marvin Gays

459
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:22,960
Let's Get It On. Say Sharon's
song copies the nineteen seventy three classic.

460
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:28,119
The trial is expected to last up
to two weeks and we'll be decided by

461
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,319
jury. Now, I do have
something here that and there are actually many

462
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:40,000
of these on YouTube, but I
chose this one that actually sort of gives

463
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:44,640
us a bit of a side by
side comparison of the two songs. So

464
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:50,240
I'm very curious. Now I already
know what I think, but I'm and

465
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,839
I'll tell you after we listen to
this, But I'm very curious to hear

466
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,599
while I'm curious here what you think, Jenny, and also the audience.

467
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,680
I'd like to get some audience feedback
on this. But I have a strong

468
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,160
opinion about this already, but I'll
share that afterward after we listen to this.

469
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:06,960
Oh, hello to a Miriam Bandish
who joins us on the Facebook live

470
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,320
chat. I'm Miriam, all right, here here we go. So this

471
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:13,639
is so the Insurance song, by
the way, is thinking out loud versus

472
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:17,280
Marvin Gay's song Let's Get It On. Okay, here we go. Don't

473
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:24,119
look like they used to before.
And I can't sweep you off of your

474
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:35,599
feet. Will your mouth still remember
the taste of me? Love? Will

475
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:42,000
your eyes still smile from your cheek? Done? And I've been really try

476
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:53,800
trying to hold back to the feeling
the soul, baby man good stupul us

477
00:34:55,039 --> 00:35:07,599
hard twenty three. I'm thinking about
how and if you like a feeling,

478
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:21,079
come on, so, honey,
naw, take me to having ears,

479
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:30,679
kiss me up to the light of
a thousand starts. Loving wrong with me?

480
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Loving God? Maybe love, love
and giving yourself to me can never

481
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:52,000
be wrong? Love? Maybe we
found love right? Well we are when

482
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:57,119
my ass off a gune and my
memo all right before I say what I

483
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:01,639
think? What do you think?
No? No, not, he did

484
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,880
not rip off the song. I
do not believe he ripped off the song.

485
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,679
I do not believe that they're the
same. I think this is a

486
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:14,000
frivolous lawsuit and unfortunately it's not the
first time and it will be the last

487
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:17,159
time before something like that happens.
I do not think that they are alike.

488
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,599
And I you know, when I
was doing some research on this issue,

489
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:27,519
I also found some statements that it
and it clicked for me that a

490
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:31,000
lot of that most songs can be, you know, wound into one another.

491
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:35,719
There's only so many harmonic spaces for
a song to live that you can

492
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,880
do that. And if you think
about it, how many times do you

493
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,159
see people do that? Doesn't mean
that the other song was written by the

494
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,519
same person. It's just a crafty
way of being able to go from one

495
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:47,039
end to the other. So that
performance on stage was just that, a

496
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:53,079
performance on stage. It wasn't him
showing the world that he had ripped off

497
00:36:53,159 --> 00:37:00,199
that song. Okay, So here's
here's what I think. Basically, I

498
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:07,360
agree, um uh the songs there
is a similar vibe. Even the tempo

499
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:12,199
is the same, So there there
are similarities. But there's uh yeah,

500
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,840
I think Ed Shearon is probably a
big fan of Marvin Gay. I think

501
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,719
he's probably a big fan of that
song. So the songs have a similar

502
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,440
vibe, the production is very similar, but it's not the same song.

503
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:30,239
I agree, and and I think
this lawsuit is ridiculous. There is uh

504
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,559
Stephen brought up in the chat room, our friend Stephan Philbrook. He says,

505
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:37,519
OMG, they sound similar. This
is such bs. The blurred lines

506
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:42,280
decision was wrong. Also, yeah, that's another lawsuit similar that we can

507
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,280
talk about the similarity is this.
So we've we've we've entered a period where

508
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:53,360
you know, it used to be
somebody um would sue. Uh, you

509
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:59,119
know, if if if you could
prove in court that that somebody directly copied

510
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:04,719
your song where a song is so
similar that it's clear that they not necessarily

511
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,800
even intentionally ripped you off. You
know, sometimes you can write a song

512
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,639
and you know, I know this, or I've written songs, and anyone

513
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:13,599
who's written songs will tell you.
Sometimes you can write a song that sounds

514
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,440
like something else and you don't even
realize it as you're writing it, because

515
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:22,480
you're not always conscious and fully cognizant
of what is what is it? What

516
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:27,000
is it that you're writing? Is
it your idea or is it another idea

517
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,679
that you've heard, But in the
moment you're thinking it's your idea because you

518
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,760
can't easily tell in your own mind
where the idea came from and so forth.

519
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:42,199
But so that happens, and so
some lawsuits are valid, sure,

520
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:49,039
But I mean led Zeppelin has been
sued and multiple times. Led Zeppelin probably

521
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,480
the most plagiaristic policy on retrospect from
radio with policy you know, we've done

522
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:59,239
at least two episodes on that very
subject, led Zeppelin songs that they you

523
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,639
know, a lot of a lot
of bands, for example, have stolen

524
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,719
songs from classic blues artists, like
where they you know, just change a

525
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,119
few words and then don't give the
original artist credit. So so it does

526
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:15,239
happen. But here's the thing.
If we've entered a period now where you

527
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:22,199
can sue somebody for their song just
kind of having the same vibe as yours,

528
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,920
And that's what kind of happened with
the Blurred Lines lawsuit, which we'll

529
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,800
look we'll look at that afterward too. You know, just a song just

530
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:35,280
has the same vibe or or maybe
somebody has a song that was clearly inspired

531
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,960
by because again I have no doubt
that Ed Sharon is a fan of Let's

532
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,480
get It On by Marvin Gayan that
that inspired him somewhat right, either consciously

533
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,239
or or subconsciously or unconsciously. So
you know, so if something has a

534
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,920
similar vibe, you can sue them. Now, See that's a very that's

535
00:39:53,920 --> 00:40:00,400
a very dangerous zone that we've entered
in. If if if that now uh

536
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:07,800
qualifies you to sue somebody somebody stole
your vibe. Um, my dad says

537
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,599
in the chat room, I have
somebody would sue you? Yes, my

538
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,840
dad. I think my dad is
uh. He's actually in Greensboro, North

539
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,639
Carolina right now. He says,
I have somebody would sue you gay so

540
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,239
similar that it's clear that they even
intentionally ripped you off. Sometimes you can

541
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,239
write a song. I think my
dad's using voice to text and it's uh.

542
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:38,599
Maybe Ed Sheridan was Sharon's. Sorry. I don't know why I'm so

543
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:44,719
tongue twisted today. Ed Sheridan is
the guy who started Sheridan Hotels. I

544
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,159
think when you say at the Sheridan, you're saying at one of them,

545
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:53,079
Ed Sheridan's Hotels. So Ed Sharon
was quoted on Fox UM and I felt

546
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:57,119
that because they asked him about a
previous lawsuit, I didn't know this.

547
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:04,559
He was sued last year on a
copyright infringement. He was accused of ripping

548
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:09,880
off Sammy Switches song Oh Why,
and for his song Shape of You.

549
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,800
Okay, he won that case.
But the quote that I'm just setting the

550
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,119
stage with the quote that he said, and I really agree with what he

551
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:22,960
said, is whilst we're obviously happy
with the result. I feel like claims

552
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,639
like this are way too common now
and have become a culture where a claim

553
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,719
is made with the idea that a
settlement will be cheaper than taking it to

554
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:36,079
court, even if there's no basis
for the claim. It's really damaging to

555
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:40,239
the songwriting industry to speak to what
you said that that's that's it in a

556
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,840
nutshell if you're you know, that
can't be the rule of the day.

557
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,360
Yeah, or like he said,
if you get the same vibe right,

558
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,960
yeah, and there. We do
have a very excessive legitis society. You

559
00:41:54,079 --> 00:42:00,800
know that we do have too many
frivolous lawsuits in our society in that regard,

560
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,800
I agree with that one hundred percent. It's it's I feel bad for

561
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,239
artists because they get trapped in these
lawsuits and you got to deal with it.

562
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:13,039
You either have to spend the money, go to court, hire the

563
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:17,199
lawyers, get the experts, or
you settle it with them and make it

564
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,159
go away so it doesn't eat up
your money, eat any time, eat

565
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,480
up your life. And that's really
a hard place to stick an artist.

566
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:30,360
Yeah. Kiss Scott sued once by
uh, what's his name? It wasn't

567
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,119
Alice Cooper. It was the guy
that wrote eighteen with Alice Cooper. I

568
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:39,320
forget his name, but he sued. Bruce Kulick and Paul Stanley had written

569
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:50,280
a song called Dreaming which appeared on
their Psycho Circus album, and the riff

570
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,280
was very similar. It was very
similar to the riff in eighteen by Alice

571
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Cooper. And you know, but
they they settled that. They settled that

572
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,960
quickly, you know. But there's
also a lot of examples, like I

573
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:07,480
remember Tom Petty being asked when when
the Red Hot Chili Peppers came out with

574
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:14,199
Danny California, which happens to be
my favorite Chili Peppers song, and h

575
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,880
immediately people started asking Tom Petty,
are you going to sue them for this?

576
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:23,360
Because it is the exact same chord
progression as Last Dance with Mary Jane

577
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:29,280
by Tom Petty. Yeah, and
it's the exact same chord progression. But

578
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,639
here's the problem. But Tom,
he said no, he didn't care.

579
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,400
He's like, no, whatever,
it's fine. He actually was completely unfazed

580
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,599
by it. He never he never
pursued it. But the thing is,

581
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,719
though, But but then we get
into this other thing too. There are

582
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:49,119
some chord progressions that are just super
common because the chord progression in those two

583
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,079
songs, yes, it is exactly
the same, but it's also that same

584
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:58,360
chord progression shows up in a million
others songs like it, you know,

585
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:04,480
so you really can go down the
rabbit hole quickly. I remember back in

586
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,719
Jesus was back in high school,
warrant uh Warren's first Do you remember the

587
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,800
song down Boys? Don't know?
It was Warren's first hit song. And

588
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:17,079
I don't know if it was even
on the radio much, but I just

589
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:22,440
remember seeing the video a lot on
MTV. Yeah, it was before Cherry

590
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,199
Pie and everything, before they got
really big, but their first song was

591
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,280
called down Boys, and I remember
seeing the video and I was like,

592
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,639
oh my god, that's is it? Bye Bye Love or Bye My Love

593
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:35,079
by the Cars I can never remember. I was like, wait a minute,

594
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:38,800
that's the same as the Car's song, just louder. But you know,

595
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,800
but the Car has never sued them
over it, you know. Um.

596
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,719
Stephen Philbrook in the chat says they
are like thirty songs that copy Packle

597
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:57,840
Bells uh pack of Bell's cannon rhythm
progression. I know it's classical. The

598
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:04,440
most notable hook by Blues traveler that
talks about the hook. Oh, the

599
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:10,559
hook brings you back patcha bell's cannon
being the hook. John Popper does a

600
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:15,559
very good job explaining this within the
lyrics of hook. Oh. Yeah,

601
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:20,039
he explained it too in an interview
with Howard Stern. Stephan also says Stevie

602
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:23,639
Knicks reached out to Prince when she
realized that she ripped off Little Red Corvette

603
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:28,840
and her songs stand Back. Prince
ended up going to her studio redid the

604
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,039
tracks, then left Yep. Well, Prince actually ended up playing. Yeah,

605
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:36,800
he played keyboard on that, but
yeah, he just became a part

606
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,800
of it and said, all right, cools, it is the same.

607
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,880
It's the same chord progression. Yeah. A lot of people don't realize this.

608
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:46,159
It is the same the chord progression
on stand Back by Stevie Knicks.

609
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:52,239
It's the same as on Little Red
Corvette by Prince. If you match them

610
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,199
up, it's it's the exact it's
the exact same chords. Charles in the

611
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,480
chat room says, greetings, fellow
Connor, Tonight's yeah, Charles Richardson from

612
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:05,239
the Great Set of Florida. Hello, So it says here again, this

613
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,079
is from CNBC musician At Sharon was
in court this week to deny claims that

614
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,920
his twenty fourteen song Thinking Out Loud
is a copy of Marvin Gay's nineteen seventy

615
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,320
three classic Let's Get It On.
The high profile copyright case was brought by

616
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,239
the airs of Ed Townsend, who
co wrote Let's Get It On with Gay.

617
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:30,559
The plaintiffs first filed the civil suit
in twenty seventeen and are being represented

618
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,159
by a legal team including civil rights
attorney Benjamin Crump. Well, that guy's

619
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,840
name comes up a lot recently,
and he's got a great name too,

620
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:43,239
Benjamin Crump. You remember him?
Yes, Yes, you know that guy.

621
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:49,679
Yes, get Crump, God,
get him on the case. Townsend's

622
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,559
daughter, Katherine towns Would that just
be fun to say I'm being represented by

623
00:46:52,599 --> 00:47:01,920
Crump? It just sounds fun.
Townsend's daughter Katherine Townsend, sister Helen McDonald,

624
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:07,000
and the estate of his former wife. I don't know how to say

625
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:15,079
this. Cherry Cherry Gaale Townsend are
the lists are listed as the plaintiffs in

626
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:19,239
the case. Gay died in nineteen
eighty four and Townsend died in two thousand

627
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,199
and three. Sharon, thirty two, took the stand Tuesday during opening arguments

628
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,960
in federal court in Manhattan. The
trial is expected to last up to two

629
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,400
weeks. The defense, which did
not cross examine Sharon, said he'll be

630
00:47:31,519 --> 00:47:38,280
back on the stand once more during
the trial. Townsend's estate alleges that Sharon

631
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:44,679
Warner Music Group and Sony Music Publishing
borrowed from the soul classic Let's Get It

632
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,440
On in the creation of Thinking out
Loud, violating federal copyright law. Attorneys

633
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,599
for Townsend's heirs wrote in the complaint
quote, the defendants copied the heart of

634
00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:00,639
Let's Get It On and repeated it
continuously throughout Things out Loud. The melodic,

635
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:07,360
harmonic and rhythmic compositions and thinking are
not the product of independent creation.

636
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:17,239
Now. Interestingly about that is the
gay estate isn't suing. It's Townsend's daughter

637
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,760
who is suing. In the previous
case, the estate was the plaintiff.

638
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:30,519
Yeah. Um, but one of
the things that he that Sharon said is

639
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:36,800
that most most pop songs can actually
be put into other pop songs. That

640
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,639
there's a limited amount of harmonic palette
is what he called it. Yeah,

641
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,960
but he said that most pop songs
can absolutely be done over other pop songs

642
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,679
that you could literally take let it
Be, go to no Woman, No

643
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:52,559
Cry, and come back to let
It Be Sure. So there's a limitation.

644
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:54,880
There's there's some limitations in music as
far as you know, there's only

645
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,760
so many harmonic levels, there's only
so many things. So you're gonna have

646
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,880
similarities in some songs, but to
listen to them, but I don't see

647
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:07,159
the similarity in that way at all. And the person he writes with,

648
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,159
they've had the same writing style for
a long time. They're very quick writers.

649
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,239
Yeah, there was a notation about
the when his um, when Sharmon's

650
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:21,239
wife was diagnosed with cancer, he
spat out like seven songs in one day,

651
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:23,920
just pouring it out. Yeah,
Um, when you know which is

652
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:29,239
artists do that. Yeah. But
I thought it was interesting that in the

653
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,760
previous lawsuit, if you were going
to talk about I think you said you

654
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:36,280
were going to talk about that,
right, yes, yes, So the

655
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:42,360
Blurred Lines lawsuit, in that instance, it was found that it was there

656
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,639
was a similarity to Marvin Gay's Got
to Give It Up Now. Gay's estate

657
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:54,239
was awarded five point three million dollars
in damages plus royalties and postumous songwriting credit

658
00:49:55,679 --> 00:50:00,960
that estate is not involved in this
case in this lawsuit. Yeah, I

659
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:04,519
kind of. I feel bad for
shared and in this moment like this is

660
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:09,960
like is what third fourth lawsuit trying
to defend his work. I don't see

661
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,920
the similarity there. I just don't. I don't know where they're coming from

662
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,199
with that. I don't see it. Well, like I said, I

663
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:21,559
see it, I just don't think
it's valid. I don't think it's again.

664
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:24,039
I mean, you know, everybody
was inspired by something before them this,

665
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,760
that's just a simple fact of anything
that you create. But gay's the

666
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,239
state itself is not suing. Yeah, this is strictly the family of Townsend

667
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,440
and they're trying to sue for one
hundred million dollars. Is this this a

668
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,119
paycheck for them? Yeah, of
course it is. It's a cash grab.

669
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:45,800
That's what I'm feeling. That's what
I'm feeling. Says here again,

670
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:51,000
this is from CNBC dot Com.
To make the plaintiff's argument, Crump pointed

671
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:55,079
to a twenty fourteen stage performance in
which Shearon sang a live mashup of the

672
00:50:55,159 --> 00:51:00,519
two songs. Crump told jurors the
moment captured on video amounted to a confession.

673
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,599
We have a smoking gun, Crump
said of the mashup video. That

674
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:14,159
is something Crump would say. Crump
added that Sharon recognized the magic of Gay's

675
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,000
song and claimed that he had quote
decided to capture a bit of that magic

676
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:22,760
for his own benefit. Unquote.
Yeah, this is kind of That's kind

677
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,079
of how creativity works in a lot
of cases, it says here. Sharon

678
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,760
was called to the stand Tuesday and
defended his art before the court, telling

679
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:37,920
jurors that he composed Thinking out Loud
independently with British songwriter Amy Wadge, who

680
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:42,960
was not named in the lawsuit.
Sharon also said the twenty fourteen concert mashup

681
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,079
only happened because most pop songs use
a handful of similar records. Yes,

682
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,719
that is true. Quote if I'd
done what you're accusing me of doing,

683
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:57,719
I'd be an idiot to stand on
stage in front of twenty thousand people and

684
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,599
do that unquote right, adding he
had done similar mashups with other pop songs.

685
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,800
Quote, it is my belief that
most pop songs are built on building

686
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,960
blocks that have been freely available for
hundreds of years unquote, Yes, exactly.

687
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,559
This isn't the first time Sharon has
found himself in the cross airs of

688
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:22,400
a copyright infringement suit last April,
Shearon took the stand, Okay, this

689
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:25,239
is what you were referring to earlier
involving another one of his hits, twenty

690
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,960
seventeen, Shape of View. A
London judge in that case ruled in favor

691
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:35,199
of Sharon and awarded him more than
one point one million dollars in legal fees.

692
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,360
Sharon said at the time, quote, there's only so many notes and

693
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:45,079
very few chords used in pop music. Coincidence is bound to happen if sixty

694
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:50,280
thousand songs are being released every day
on Spotify. Unquote wow, is it

695
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,440
really that many? I don't know
problem wonder if it is probably released.

696
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:59,679
In September twenty fourteen, Sharon's Thinking
Out Loud became a critical and commercial success,

697
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,519
when the musician a Song of the
Year and Best Pop Solo Performance at

698
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,559
the fifty eighth Grammy Awards. He
said he came up with the song after

699
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:12,480
the death of a grandfather. The
song is about finding love at an old

700
00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:16,480
age, he told the court Tuesday. Sharon could testify once more during the

701
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:22,599
trial if the jury finds a British
singer songwriter liable for copyright infringement. The

702
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,119
trial will enter a second phase to
determine how much he will pay in damages.

703
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:30,800
Wadge, the Thinking Out Loud co
writer, is also planning to take

704
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,440
the stand during trial. Crump told
jurors during his opening statement Tuesday, if

705
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,280
you remember nothing else about this trial, about this case, it is about

706
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:45,360
giving credit where credit is due unquote. That is so Crump. Sorry,

707
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,719
it's really like his Yeah, no, not supporting this case of his.

708
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:55,880
Ja Fed says I wrote a song
one time and Ed stole it. DJ

709
00:53:57,039 --> 00:54:01,039
Steva's in the Facebook live chat,
Hello sir. Uh. Scott Robinson joins

710
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:06,920
us and says Charles Richardson ingested plagiarism
on my SAE. Shame on you,

711
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:12,440
Charles. Oh the Connor Tonight's thing, that's true. Scott Robinson did come

712
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:16,360
up with that. Uh so Scott
Robinson, I think is going to be

713
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:23,239
contacting Crump. That's what I think
I'd watch out Charleson. Stephan says,

714
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:29,960
just like uh Police So Lonely and
Bob Marley, No Woman, no cry,

715
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:36,039
similar, not the same. I
can't think of how So Lonely goes.

716
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:40,320
But yeah, I'm sure there's well, especially actually, oh yeah,

717
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:47,159
yeah, yeah, yeah. Are
they similar? There's well, so Lonely

718
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,800
is much faster than No Woman,
No Cry, but maybe think but the

719
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,320
core progression might be the same.
Yeah, I mean, especially, oh

720
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,000
jeez, if you get into like
Bob Marley like then you're getting into reggae.

721
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:01,000
I mean, there's a million and
there's probably a million pop songs.

722
00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:07,599
It sound like a million pleased to
call that a compliment? Yeah, oh

723
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,119
yeah to say it. I mean, we're at the top of the hour.

724
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:13,840
But before we go to break,
I do want to look at this

725
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,840
from Rolling Stone. I want to
revisit the Blurred Lines copyright suit. This

726
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,960
is from rolling Stone dot Com December
thirteenth, twenty eighteen. Blurred Lines copyright

727
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:29,599
suit against Robin Thick and Farrell ends
in a five million dollar judgment. The

728
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,400
legal saga with Marvin Gay's family concludes
with final judgments. So this is what

729
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,480
again? This is from twenty eighteen. Oh, I'm not going to be

730
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:43,480
able to uh actually no, I
can't do that without logging in. Let's

731
00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:46,840
see, let me find a different
one. Let me find a different one

732
00:55:46,960 --> 00:56:00,519
here. How about the Tennessee and
has a story from a year later Blurred

733
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:06,679
Lines lawsuit revived with claim for l
Williams committed perjury. Well, I don't

734
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:15,840
know about this part the long running
copyright infringement lawsuit over Blurred Lines and then

735
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:22,519
the article just vanished. Okay,
well I'm never going to the Tennessee and

736
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:24,280
dot com again. Oh here we
go, I got it back. The

737
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:30,079
long running copyright infringement lawsuit over Blurred
Lines is we're roaring back to life with

738
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,599
lawyers for Marvin Gay's family accusing for
Ell Williams of lyne under oath. During

739
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:38,239
the twenty fifteen trial, the Gay
family sued Williams and Robin Thicke, saying

740
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,800
the duo stole from got to give
it up when they wrote and recorded the

741
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,559
smash hit Blurred Lines. The jury
sided with the Gay family, which won

742
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:52,119
five point three million in damages.
Williams denied the claims at the time.

743
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:54,599
He testified the Gay's music was part
of the soundtrack of his youth, but

744
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,559
he denied using any of it to
create Blurred Lines. But the legal team

745
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:04,199
for the Gay family, led by
Nashville attorney Richard Bush, said Williams contradicted

746
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,440
himself in a November interview with GQ
when he told producer Rick Rubin that he

747
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:13,199
tries to reverse engineer songs quote to
figure out if we can build a building

748
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,360
that doesn't look the same but makes
you feel the same way. I did

749
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,039
that in blurred lines and got myself
in trouble. I really made it feel

750
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:23,239
so much like got to give it
up that people were like, oh,

751
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:29,280
I hear the same thing. Unte
The interview is the backbone of the legal

752
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,440
filing submitted in federal court Friday arguing
that the Gay Family should get its legal

753
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:38,400
fees paid for. The filing stated
quote, he admitted, either without understanding

754
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,119
the consequences or because he believes he
is untouchable, that, contrary to his

755
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:47,480
sworn deposition and trial testimony, he
reversed engineered the Marvin Gay song. William

756
00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:53,840
testified falsely on those specific topics,
resulting in a fraud on this court.

757
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:59,880
Unquote. See I disagree. That's
his explanation of reverse engineering the song is

758
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:05,320
the same as saying he exactly,
they're just looking for any nugget that can

759
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,960
pull on and go. Then he
gets some money out of this. I

760
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:10,440
mean, anyone who knows anything about
music production would tell you that that is

761
00:58:10,519 --> 00:58:15,239
not that is not a confessions every
time we can get out of everybody,

762
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,119
says Williams. And Thick previously argued
they should not have to pay attorney's fees

763
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:22,880
for the Gay Family because they did
not willfully copy from Gay's work. The

764
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,599
court agreed at the time. The
Gay Family's attorneys said the Williams interview showed

765
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:31,079
he did, in fact willfully copy
from Got to Get It On. As

766
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:36,480
a result, they argued the decision
on legal fees should be reversed. Blurred

767
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:38,880
Lines was the biggest hit of twenty
thirteen and was nominated for a Grammy Award.

768
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:43,400
Oh God, I remember you couldn't
get away from that song. I

769
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:45,679
never liked it. I didn't like
it the first time I heard it,

770
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:50,719
and I didn't like it the ten
thousandth time that I heard it. Bush

771
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,199
declined a request for a comment on
the filing. He said, quote,

772
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:58,039
we have no comment. Everything is
set forth in detail and the papers filed

773
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:05,280
with the court unquote. And then
oh, Isaac Banks in the chat room

774
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:12,039
says hello there, hashtag Matt and
hashtag Jen, how are you doing good

775
00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:17,119
afternoon? Hello hashtag Jeff Pagari.
You had the most day dreams or dreaming

776
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:23,559
that you want to make a comeback
for yourself and be careful what you dreams

777
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:30,800
for and be careful what you wish
for. You have your own show called

778
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:36,960
Doctor JP and Friends Show for the
radio show, for your YouTube live.

779
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:43,159
Oh that's very exciting. I hope
it's I hope it. In no way

780
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,440
is going to copy this program,
oh boy, because if it does,

781
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:51,519
you know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna get Crump. Stop. That's

782
00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:53,199
what's gonna happen. I think his
places full right now. I don't think

783
00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:57,920
you're gonna get him. Oh I'm
gonna get him. I'm gonna get Crump.

784
00:59:58,199 --> 01:00:00,559
No, never gonna get it,
never gonna get it, never gonna

785
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:04,760
get it, never gonna get it. See, you're gonna get sued by

786
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,199
whoever wrote that song for end Vogue. They're gonna they're gonna sue you.

787
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:15,800
They're gonna get Crump. Yeah.
Oh all right, we are past the

788
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,840
top, they are. Yeah.
Let's we'll take a quick break. Actually,

789
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,400
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790
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791
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792
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We have a call. Hi, Welcome

816
01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:54,000
to Matt Cornorton unleash. Who's this
Mark Horner? Yes, yes it is.

817
01:02:54,119 --> 01:03:00,360
Who's this Mark? Corner Mark?
Corner Mark? What? What?

818
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:05,519
What's this? Dot damn card is
this my corn. This is a very

819
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:09,079
familiar voice. He's kind of mumbling. My corn is don Armor is calling

820
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:15,559
from Burger Don. The ghost of
don Imus is on the line. Oh

821
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:20,639
my god, this is amazing.
Don Imus calling from from Purga. You're

822
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:25,280
still in purgatory. How long you
have to say that's that's that's crazy.

823
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,559
Uh, this is I will say
though, this is an honor, sir.

824
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,480
I mean, I don't think you
were a good person when you were

825
01:03:31,519 --> 01:03:35,360
here on earth, and uh you
were kind of a pos to a lot

826
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,159
of people and said some terrible things. But you are a radio legend.

827
01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:42,679
And uh, I am talking to
your ghost. So this is quite a

828
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,519
moment. Well, I su're talking
to me. I got really are just

829
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:52,840
got arrested. And I sad me
or burgoo so you so you uh you

830
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,519
so you've been arrested me they call
me. I'm glad they called me.

831
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:02,519
I'm glad. They were very are
here in the purgatory. But I don't

832
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:06,480
feel dead man dar and I'm well, I'm alive. I keep telling them,

833
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,159
I keep telling them I'm alive.
They won't want to come back.

834
01:04:11,719 --> 01:04:15,119
I will say this, don Imus, you sound you do sound more alive

835
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:19,280
to me now than you did at
any point in the last five or six

836
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:24,039
years that you were actually on the
radio. Well, thank you, thank

837
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,440
you, right, and you sound
more alive than our brig fan. You

838
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,760
know, we get your our show
over here in Burgador. He said,

839
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,960
you are, say purgatory rights,
Let's make sure you're the Rglayry. Yes,

840
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:36,920
I'm sorry, I'm eating right now. I'm having watched right now.

841
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,679
Ave. But you say, you
say you're not actually dead, So are

842
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,599
you in? Are you just buried
somewhere in purgatory, Texas? And they

843
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:48,199
won't let you out? Is that
what's going on? No, I'm actually

844
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:55,639
here in the PURGASHORYU first class here
by the li Fu first class here in

845
01:04:55,679 --> 01:05:00,599
the purgatory, and it's a nice
day here. I think I am dad.

846
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,199
Actually, they don't tell me I'm
dead, but I don't feel dead.

847
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:08,320
Ron right right. You brought me
in a room, they questioned me

848
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,320
for three hours. They told me
I'm dead. They hadn't re signed some

849
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,119
favorite work, Matt. And I'm
here now in purgatory. It's an undisclosed

850
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:18,519
amount of time that I'm going to
be here, but it should be shown

851
01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:21,559
that I'll be going to heaven.
Matt, that's very exciting. Well,

852
01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:29,159
are you sure? Does everyone in
from your donkey cock mat? That sounds

853
01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:31,400
familiar. I think I think you
might have asked me that once before when

854
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,679
I called into your show many years
ago. Wow, how's my donkey con

855
01:05:35,239 --> 01:05:43,519
It's great? So a very important
question. Do you get to uh do

856
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:46,159
you get to continue to wear your
cowboy hat in purgatory? Closer? Man,

857
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:51,679
I shouldn't call it until we out
from Ratarial. I mean, this

858
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:56,559
is our first time talking. I've
never spoken to the ghost of don Amas

859
01:05:56,679 --> 01:05:59,920
before. I'll tell any work we're
gonna do about you and I when I

860
01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:02,320
come down to her the fire from
Progret Hard, We're gonna sit down,

861
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,960
I'm gonna write some material, and
we're gonna think of some funny things for

862
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:11,559
me to say. That's great.
It'll be just like your back on the

863
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:15,960
rate. It'll be just like your
back at w ABC or I'm sorry w

864
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:20,159
NBC. Oh you're very sick.
Yeah here in New York. Yeah,

865
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,880
yeah, it'll be like your back
home. That's right, because you know,

866
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:30,079
how was your donkey Kong to get
really old? Really? Yes,

867
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,119
I think at some point you would
stop saying that later in your career,

868
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,400
probably around the time that you started
copying Howard Stern trying to be more like

869
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:40,519
him. Oh wow, true.
Yeah, so even in death, you're

870
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:44,920
still upset with Howard Stern. I
don't like Howard. He took all mail.

871
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,760
Well he uh, he had glowing
things to say about you when you

872
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:55,159
passed away. You know about a
lot of people will mistaken me from Larry's

873
01:06:55,159 --> 01:07:00,039
fun. Yes, yes, I
know someone who thinks you sound like him.

874
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:03,519
I think you sound like don iMOS. That's how I figured out that

875
01:07:03,559 --> 01:07:06,920
it was the ghost of don iMOS. Than well, thank him? Right,

876
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:13,079
yeah, this is the ghost of
don Iris. Liar point, this

877
01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:15,480
is the ghost of Don Iris.
Tracking out right, you have a great

878
01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:19,800
day. I love yourself, all
right, thank you? Well, very

879
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,960
nice? All right, Wow,
the ghost of don iMOS. That was

880
01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:26,639
wonderful. Now how does that work? Now? He says he's in purgatory.

881
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,880
But does that mean he definitely goes
to heaven, because if you go

882
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,760
to hell, you go. I
see, I'm not. I haven't been

883
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,440
to church in a while, much
to the chagrin of my dad. But

884
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:40,079
I think the deal is. I
do remember learning about purgatory in school.

885
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:43,599
Uh, Catholic school. I think
the deal is, uh, if you

886
01:07:43,719 --> 01:07:46,519
go to purgatory, you you go
there to burn off your sins and then

887
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,320
you get to go to heaven.
But if you go to hell, you

888
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,000
go straight to hell, I think, right, because that would be that

889
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:56,000
wouldn't be very fair, right if
you go to purgatory and then you're thinking,

890
01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:59,599
no, cool, I'm in purgatory. Maybe next I get to go

891
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:02,519
climb that ladder over there and get
to happen, and then it turns out

892
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,199
no, you just fall into the
pit of hell. That would be That

893
01:08:05,199 --> 01:08:09,880
would be terrible. That would be
insult to injury, am I Right?

894
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:14,320
So so I hope don Imus.
But he's been dead for years now,

895
01:08:14,679 --> 01:08:16,560
at least a couple of years,
right, So he's been in purgatory a

896
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,760
long time, A long time.
Wow, don Imus, Well that was

897
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:25,800
that was a radio legend. My
friends. We've made radio history here today.

898
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:08,520
Welcome back, everybody. We are
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899
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:13,479
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900
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,520
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902
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903
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904
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905
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911
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912
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913
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:11,319
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914
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,079
six zo three two five zero six
zero seven. Melanie mentioned in the chat

915
01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:18,359
room. I think this is my
reference in the clip you know I played.

916
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:26,840
I played what has become an instant
classic clip from Matt Connerton unleashed last

917
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:30,199
last week when the ghost of don
Imus called live on the air. Is

918
01:10:30,319 --> 01:10:33,600
very exciting. But talented, man, they're talented. Yeah, apparently he's

919
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:38,319
he was in purgatory. He may
have broken free by now, but no,

920
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,960
I think he's still there. He
may be. I don't know.

921
01:10:41,319 --> 01:10:43,840
He's been dead for I think a
couple of years now, So that's all.

922
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,039
That's enough. That's a long stay
in purgatory. You think, does

923
01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:49,880
a long stay for eternity? Uh, in purgatory, yes, but you

924
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:54,479
have to get through there to get
to eternity. I guess, so I

925
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,640
don't know. I mean he you
know, you know, you know what

926
01:10:57,079 --> 01:11:01,359
was funny? I love the Catholic
second chance and when uh when is that

927
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:09,960
a Catholic thing? Specifically purgatory?
Yes? Um um when I when Imus

928
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:14,640
died. So of course people who
follow this stuff know that, uh,

929
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,680
don Imus had a long running you
know. And I know, I know

930
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,199
this will come as a big shock
to everyone, But I love a good

931
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:26,439
radio feud. Um. I know
everyone's like what you know? Yes,

932
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,880
it is true and uh don Imus
of course and Howard Stern had one of

933
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,319
the most legendary radio feuds. And
if you've ever seen the film Private Parts,

934
01:11:34,359 --> 01:11:39,199
It's well documented in there. Imus
was not I'll tell you what.

935
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:43,319
The actor I don't know his name, the actor in Private Parts who played

936
01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:47,399
don Imus looked so much like Imus, which is weird because I'mus was kind

937
01:11:47,399 --> 01:11:51,359
of a unique looking individual. But
they found somebody who who really who really

938
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:58,119
looked like Imus. The art the
makeup artist can yeah, true, true,

939
01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:00,880
Yeah, the guy really looked like
Imus. Although you don't see him

940
01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:04,720
much in the movie. His scenes
are very brief, but he's very mean

941
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:14,119
to Howard. But but when I
mis died, I thought, I really

942
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:18,159
I remember listening to Howard. You
know, I have the satellite radio in

943
01:12:18,199 --> 01:12:23,239
the car, and I thought I
was interested to hear what Howard would say,

944
01:12:23,319 --> 01:12:25,880
because I thought, maybe, after
all this time, you know,

945
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:30,159
Howard would would have some some nice
things to say, or maybe something like,

946
01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:32,359
you know, I wish that,
uh, you know, I wish

947
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,840
i'mis and I had had had a
better relationship or something like that, and

948
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:41,720
that Robin would would say some nice
things. I was kind of stunned,

949
01:12:42,039 --> 01:12:45,920
you know, because Howard's evolved over
the years, and and Howard has even

950
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:49,359
done this thing where and I and
Howard has never talked about it on the

951
01:12:49,399 --> 01:12:54,039
show. I just know this from
other podcasts I've listened to where they talk

952
01:12:54,079 --> 01:12:59,680
about Howard. Apparently, especially in
the last few years, Howard has been

953
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,439
reaching out to people who he was
mean to in the past, other people

954
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:09,720
in the industry like um, Like
there's a guy named brother Weez in Rochester,

955
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,239
New York who Howard was very mean
to, not not mean to in

956
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:16,439
the sense of like wanting to be
mean to them personally. But just like

957
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:23,560
Howard when he was ascendant in radio, he would have these these radio feuds,

958
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,239
you know, because that would be
good. And the thing is about

959
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:29,680
a radio feud or a podcast feud
or anything. If you play it right,

960
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:36,640
everybody, everybody involved benefits because it
it uh you know, it raises

961
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,680
awareness of of every of what everyone
is doing, and it gets you publicity

962
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,560
and whatnot. So so long as
you don't get kicked off the station yet,

963
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,600
right right, Yes, there are
there are limits out how you want

964
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:51,279
to push things. But like Howard
when he um when he became number one

965
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,560
in New York City for the first
time, he held uh. He did

966
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,000
for a publicity. He did this
big event. He had the funeral of

967
01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:01,880
Mark and Bryant, and Mark and
Brian had been the number one show in

968
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,920
New York City and then Howard finally
beat them, and he did this.

969
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:09,880
It was like his first major New
York City publicity stunt where he had a

970
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:14,000
public funeral, you know, and
it was thousands of people there for the

971
01:14:14,279 --> 01:14:16,039
funeral for Mark and Brian, you
know, just stuff like that. So

972
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:19,760
Howard over the years has apparently over
the last couple of years, has actually

973
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:26,479
gone back and he's reached out to
people and to kind of bury the hatchet

974
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,119
with him and say, you know, I'm sorry if I ever did anything

975
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,840
that genuinely hurt your feelings or you
know, it was all just meant for

976
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,359
a publicity, but you know,
I'm sorry if I hurt you or And

977
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,720
he's doing that because he has a
conscience. Well yeah, and you know

978
01:14:40,039 --> 01:14:42,720
not to try and buy your way
past anything, because we don't have that

979
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,800
in Judaism. Oh true, Yeah, there's no purgatory stuff, right Well,

980
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:51,399
Howard. Also, Howard is you
know he's pushing seventy's he so yeah,

981
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,640
so's So there's he's got a conscience, right right I And like I

982
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,680
said, he's evolved and so forth. Let's basically, the older you get,

983
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,159
the more something on your conscience,
it's going to bother. Oh sure,

984
01:15:02,279 --> 01:15:10,000
sure, But I thought I thought
when Imus died that Howard might find

985
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:16,119
some nice things to say. I
was genuinely surprised when No, he didn't.

986
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:18,279
I mean, look, he didn't. He didn't, you know,

987
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:25,359
like he didn't dance on his grave
or anything. But he didn't have anything

988
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,920
nice to say. And and and
neither did Robin. And I'll tell you

989
01:15:30,079 --> 01:15:33,199
what. In fact, not only
did they really not have anything nice to

990
01:15:33,279 --> 01:15:40,880
say about iMOS, but they they
kind of intimated that there that there was

991
01:15:41,039 --> 01:15:46,199
more that that never was said publicly
about Imis being like like Robin said,

992
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:53,600
Imus was behind the scenes like really
racist to her, like like like far,

993
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,079
like far worse than had ever been
revealed, forgotten all about that,

994
01:15:58,399 --> 01:16:02,359
Like he said things to her privately
that she never revealed publicly, that you

995
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,079
know, that she never could could
look past, you know, and that

996
01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:13,039
he was actually a really bad guy. Um. Yeah. But the other

997
01:16:13,159 --> 01:16:17,319
thing that's weird about that dynamic is
Imisum he was. He was much more

998
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,960
gracious to Howard. I remember listening
to Imus one time, and he was

999
01:16:21,039 --> 01:16:25,199
saying that he was. Somebody asked
him about Howard Stern, and Imus was

1000
01:16:25,239 --> 01:16:28,960
just like, you know, I
like him a lot more than he likes

1001
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,319
me. He's like, Howard still
mad at me, but I actually like

1002
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,720
the guy. But uh, and
apparently too. They did run into each

1003
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,800
other on the streets of New York
City a number of years ago, and

1004
01:16:39,119 --> 01:16:45,000
they they actually had a reasonably cordial
and civil interaction. But but no,

1005
01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:49,239
after after Imis died, Howard and
Robin they still they didn't dance on his

1006
01:16:49,359 --> 01:16:53,399
grave or anything, but they really
had nothing nice to say either. It

1007
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,960
was interesting and I was a little
surprised, but but yeah, so it

1008
01:16:58,039 --> 01:17:00,119
was wonderful to hear from the ghost
of don Imis. But apparently he has

1009
01:17:00,159 --> 01:17:04,560
a lot to burn off in purgatory. And obviously, ultimately I'm on team

1010
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:09,720
Howard. Um, of course you
want to be on team Howard. Yes,

1011
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,560
I'm always on team how Hell.
Wow, that's that's good. This

1012
01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:16,920
is no body well Howard Howard does
Howard's an atheist? I know, so

1013
01:17:17,039 --> 01:17:21,760
there's no But you're born a jew
Jew, right, right, That's that's

1014
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,399
what my auntie would say. That's
that's what I hear. Yes, it's

1015
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:30,359
not about the religion. Yes,
but just to say there's no hell in

1016
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:36,479
Judaism, there's no purgatory. Yeah, okay, Lauren, that's a strictly

1017
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:43,279
Catholic thing. Other reasons, other
religions don't. Purgatory is a Catholic thing.

1018
01:17:43,319 --> 01:17:45,640
You're saying, not hell hell,
Hell is a Christian thing, just

1019
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:51,840
broadly right, Yeah, but purgatory
specifically you're sat this hell. Yes,

1020
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,920
No, but purgatory is one hundred
percent Catholic. Okay. Yeah, you

1021
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,279
guys got to hang out in some
place and wait for somebody to like duck

1022
01:18:00,359 --> 01:18:04,800
duck, goose chapto or something.
Other religions go right past you. Um.

1023
01:18:05,039 --> 01:18:10,199
Isaac Banks in the chat room,
says a hashtag Matt and hashtag Jenny.

1024
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:15,479
I would say Jeff Pegary Will formed
his singing mixed group and also that

1025
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:23,720
me, my friend Evan McCraw,
hashtag Valerie Miller, and hashtag Egan Conrad.

1026
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:29,119
We are leaving the singing mixed group
of Ebany's Cybeing. Oh, they're

1027
01:18:29,119 --> 01:18:31,840
actually leaving Ebany's Cybeing. I didn't
know that was a group. That's a

1028
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,880
new name. I didn't either,
But apparently they're Apparently there's a bit of

1029
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:40,039
a shake up happening there. Mike
from Queen City Cabinetry is in the chatramss

1030
01:18:40,119 --> 01:18:44,479
is Good afternoon everyone, Mike,
Welcome hello Queen City Cabinetry, one of

1031
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,359
our great sponsors here at WMH ninety
five point three. And I hope to

1032
01:18:46,399 --> 01:18:51,399
see Mike Friday night for retro Spectrum
Radio. Yes. Isaac Banks also says

1033
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:59,520
hello, hashtag Chris lout I seen
your video. Chat message buddy, hashtag

1034
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,319
Matt, hashtag Jen. I was
giving a shout out to my friend Chris

1035
01:19:03,159 --> 01:19:11,159
oh loud it and he sings and
dance and I watched the movie Private Parts

1036
01:19:11,319 --> 01:19:16,880
that was awesome. Yesterday I watched
American Idol. And last Thursday, I

1037
01:19:17,079 --> 01:19:23,159
just been there with my friend Ethan
Ross because we were at inside the chapter

1038
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:29,239
of the Inner Rhythm Choir at Lindley
Park Baptist Church in Greensboro, North Carolina.

1039
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,199
Ethan Ross just fell on the floor. He had a seizure. I

1040
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:39,319
was there with my friend and paramedics
came and check on him and he is

1041
01:19:39,399 --> 01:19:44,000
all right as well. Ye.
Well, that's an exciting place, Lindley

1042
01:19:44,039 --> 01:19:46,319
Park Baptist Church. I you could
fall down and have a seizure there.

1043
01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:50,560
That's not good. No, no, I thought that. You know,

1044
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:55,720
you're supposed to fall down in church
to be touched. I'm glad we don't

1045
01:19:55,720 --> 01:20:00,279
have a little I'm glad we don't
have the Lindley Lee Park Baptist Church here

1046
01:20:00,319 --> 01:20:03,159
in Manchester, New Hampshire. I'd
be afraid to even go near it.

1047
01:20:03,239 --> 01:20:08,640
I have a seizure. Mike says, you will. I promised Paul I'd

1048
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:13,039
be there. Wonderful, so we
look forward to seeing Mike. Only he

1049
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:18,119
posted that when you were reading,
and my brain read that in North Carolina

1050
01:20:18,199 --> 01:20:26,359
speak, Oh you will, I
promise Paul I'd be there right right to

1051
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,720
that? Oh really, yeah it
did? It sounded better in my head

1052
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,960
though. Yeah. Yeah. Then
there's no hashtags, that's true. Six

1053
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:36,760
three two five six seven. The
phone line, the studio line is open

1054
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:42,159
six three two five six seven.
We do have a little bit of leftover,

1055
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,399
calling it leftover Tucker Carlson News.
I just thought this was interesting.

1056
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:54,720
This is from media dot Com.
Leaked footage shows Tucker Carlson trashing Fox News

1057
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,600
streaming platform. Maybe this is what
got him fired. Maybe he was not

1058
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,560
on board with what are they call
it? Fox Nation? I think I

1059
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,920
think so, Yes, Fox Nation, it says here. Leaked footage from

1060
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:10,119
the set of Tucker Carlson's Fox Nation
show revealed the former Fox News, the

1061
01:21:10,199 --> 01:21:15,399
former Fox News host, trashing the
network's streaming platform. Oh, by the

1062
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,479
way, Isaac Banks in the chat
room says, so hashtag Matt. My

1063
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:24,000
friend Ethan Ross is from Greensboro,
North Carolina. I wouldn't have guessed,

1064
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:30,279
it, says here. The footage
was leaked to leaked watchdog group Media Matters

1065
01:21:30,359 --> 01:21:33,880
and shows Carlson on the phone with
an unidentified person while on the set of

1066
01:21:34,039 --> 01:21:40,039
his Tucker Carlson Today program. So, Tucker Carlson Today, for those who

1067
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:43,079
don't know, he actually had two
shows. He had. He had his

1068
01:21:43,159 --> 01:21:47,840
show that was weeknights on on Fox
News, his big, big ratings Get

1069
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,119
Her Show, he had the highest
ratings in all of cable news. But

1070
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:55,960
he also had a show on Fox
Nation, their streaming platform, called Tucker

1071
01:21:56,079 --> 01:22:00,800
Carlson Today, and that was kind
of like a you know, so it

1072
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,920
was a secondary show. Instead of
wearing a suit and tie, he'd be

1073
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:10,560
wearing a sweater and he'd have on
people like the evil bigot from libs of

1074
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:14,159
TikTok for example. I won't even
say her name. You know, things

1075
01:22:14,199 --> 01:22:17,840
like that, things that wouldn't necessarily
work on his main show on Fox News.

1076
01:22:18,399 --> 01:22:25,039
He would have on Fox that was
it? Oh yeah, Tucker Carlson

1077
01:22:25,079 --> 01:22:30,680
Today. So the conversation appeared to
coincide with Carlson's interview with controversial influencer Andrew

1078
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:36,039
Tate, who's a misogynistic views went
viral last year, months before his arrest

1079
01:22:36,119 --> 01:22:41,680
in Romania as part of a human
trafficking and rape investigation. He's actually out

1080
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,640
now, apparently, although the video
is not dated. Media Matters noted that

1081
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:50,960
Carlson's interview with Tate aired in August
of twenty twenty two. So Carlson said

1082
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:57,279
on the call, actually is this
Uh, I might be able to actually

1083
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,600
play the because I read the transcript
of it. It doesn't that doesn't appear

1084
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,520
to be any profanity in it.
You can play the actual clip here,

1085
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,439
let's see. I don't want to
be a slave to Fox Nation, which

1086
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,840
I don't think that if people watch
anyway, Um, we're gonna because I

1087
01:23:13,399 --> 01:23:17,279
you know, I'm like a representative
of the American media now speaking to an

1088
01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:24,760
exile in Romania and welcome him back
into the brotherhood of journalists. It would

1089
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,159
help us out if he wore a
sweat though, because we asked him not

1090
01:23:27,319 --> 01:23:29,600
to wear a suit like he was
kind of look about him, said,

1091
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:39,520
you don't have to talk casual.
So in the video he's visibly frustrated about

1092
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:44,439
being asked to wear a sweater.
Because for this edition of Tucker Carlson Today,

1093
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,479
he is in the video, he
is actually wearing a suit and he's

1094
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,560
being asked to wear a sweater because
apparently Andrew Tate is going to be dressed

1095
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:55,680
casually. And Tucker seems to be
a bit flabbergasted by this. I know

1096
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,079
this is very inside. Some of
you are probably thinking, Matt, why

1097
01:23:58,079 --> 01:24:00,319
do you care about this? How
does this relate to the large your story

1098
01:24:00,319 --> 01:24:03,760
about Tuger Carlson. I just love
insider stuff. I'm fascinated by it.

1099
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:08,560
I love the h I love getting
a peek behind the scenes. But this,

1100
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,800
it does appear to if I'm reading
this Hill article correctly, it does

1101
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,960
appear that there's a possibility that this
played a role in why he was fired.

1102
01:24:17,399 --> 01:24:23,199
It made conversation. It doesn't sound
like he was on board with slave

1103
01:24:23,359 --> 01:24:27,720
to Fox Nation. Yeah your boss
wants to hear yes, yes, all

1104
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:40,760
right, here's more is that?
Okay? I mean this is airing on

1105
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,399
the nighttime show, and I wanted
to look official. I don't want it

1106
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,279
to be like bro Talk and I
and I, you know what I mean,

1107
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,319
give it a majority of it,
Like if we go like Nation,

1108
01:24:51,359 --> 01:24:56,119
but nobody's gonna watch it on Fox
Nation. Nobody watches Fox Nation because the

1109
01:24:56,199 --> 01:24:59,359
site sucks. So I'd really like
to just put the dump the whole thing

1110
01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:05,560
on YouTube. But anyway, that's
just my view. Nobody watches Fox Nation

1111
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:10,399
because the site sucks. Yeah,
yeah, so he didn't. Now I

1112
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,119
wonder and there's more to this,
But I'm just curious. Now. I've

1113
01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:17,119
never been to the Fox Nation website
because why would I, But I am

1114
01:25:17,239 --> 01:25:20,000
curious to just look at the site. Now. I would probably have to

1115
01:25:20,079 --> 01:25:24,600
create an account to get to really
explore the site. But I am a

1116
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,520
bit of a website geek, so
I do like looking at websites and determining

1117
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:34,039
whether or not I personally approve of
the design and layout. And you can

1118
01:25:34,079 --> 01:25:38,399
get a free trial and see it, but you can't go past the main

1119
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:44,640
page without signing in. Yeah,
I mean the main page looks nice for

1120
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:49,920
monthly or sixty five a year you
get the deal. I mean it looks

1121
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:54,279
to it looks like regular, it
looks nice. It looks like a nice

1122
01:25:54,319 --> 01:25:56,840
website. From the home page.
I'm not going to create an account.

1123
01:25:57,079 --> 01:26:00,039
Yeah, but I mean no,
thank you. Sharon Osbourne has a show

1124
01:26:00,119 --> 01:26:05,520
on there now, Roseanne Bar.
Of course, Tucker had something to say

1125
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,359
about that too. Oh god,
I've seen clips of yeah, Roseanne.

1126
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,000
She has a special on there called
Cancel This. It's awful. Yeah,

1127
01:26:14,119 --> 01:26:15,560
the clips. I saw some clips. It's like, oh my god,

1128
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,760
where are the jokes. It's just
her like yelling. She sounds like she's

1129
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,880
drunk and she's just at a bar, just blurting out. Do you believe

1130
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,760
this? Yeah? It's really bad. What do you shut me down?

1131
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:32,359
Ra? Ra? That's all she's
doing is ra. Yeah, it's really

1132
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,760
bad. It's not like a stand
up comedy performance that I would expect.

1133
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,520
You know what, you're telling the
story right, and you got a joker

1134
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,439
too it, you know. Yeah, it's horrible. It's just literally her

1135
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:48,279
standing there going yeah, look what
they do to me? Yeah, give

1136
01:26:48,319 --> 01:26:53,600
me back my show man. All
right, here's here's more. So we've

1137
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:59,640
established at this point Tucker Carlson not
a fan of the Fox Nation streaming service.

1138
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,600
Let's hear what else you have to
say. Uh, I'm just frustrated

1139
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:09,119
with it's hard to use that site. I don't know why they're not fixing

1140
01:27:09,199 --> 01:27:13,560
it. It's driving me insane.
And they're like making like lifetime movies,

1141
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,239
but they don't they don't work on
the infrastructure of the site, like what.

1142
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,439
It's crazy and it drives me crazy
because it's like we're doing all this

1143
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:24,159
extra work and no one can find
it. It's unbelievable. Actually, I

1144
01:27:24,199 --> 01:27:28,319
don't know who runs that site.
Trunk on the show tomorrow and I best

1145
01:27:28,399 --> 01:27:30,800
the plan and then what he's going
to do is drive a lot of people

1146
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,319
to watch this on Fox Nations to
be a great help to what we're doing

1147
01:27:34,359 --> 01:27:39,439
over today. I know. But
see, I think so the guy he's

1148
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,800
talking to is missing the point though, right because the guy he's talking to,

1149
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,439
whoever that is some producer or somebody, is some executive he's telling him.

1150
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,880
I mean, it makes sense.
The business strategy is sound, you

1151
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,399
know, Well, we'll put a
we'll put a little bit of this on

1152
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:56,319
your show on Fox and that will
drive and then tell people they have to

1153
01:27:56,359 --> 01:27:59,520
go to Fox Nation to get the
full thing that that's all very sound,

1154
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,840
but what he is saying the site
is terrible. Nobody can find anything there.

1155
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,479
So but the guy's missing the point
because Soccer even said earlier, I

1156
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,960
just dump it all on you,
just dump it on YouTube. Uh you

1157
01:28:11,079 --> 01:28:15,000
know. But all right, there's
a little bit more here. We're doing

1158
01:28:15,079 --> 01:28:17,359
hard part. We're like working like
animals to produce all this content, and

1159
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,920
the people in charge of it,
whoever that guy's whatever his name is,

1160
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,640
like they're ignoring the fact that the
site doesn't work, and it's I think

1161
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,600
it's like a betrayal of our efforts. That's how I feel. So I

1162
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:33,079
of course I resent it. Yes, well, I don't. You know,

1163
01:28:33,159 --> 01:28:38,279
I don't blame him if the site
is not good, I don't.

1164
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,359
I don't blame him. I think
there's better ways of dealing with it than

1165
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,359
arguing with the person that's producing the
show and saying this is what they're wanting

1166
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:50,560
from you. Right. But I'm
American media. I'm too big for you.

1167
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,760
I swear that's where he's coming from. He's like, yeah, you

1168
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,279
have to go my way. I'm
too big. Well, in fairness,

1169
01:28:57,319 --> 01:28:59,199
I mean, I don't like the
guy, but in fairness, he did

1170
01:28:59,319 --> 01:29:01,640
kind of earn that. I mean, he was the number one guy in

1171
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:06,199
all of cable news. Just awful. I mean if I was my least

1172
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:09,840
favorite of them all, I mean, if I were the number one guy

1173
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,239
in all of cable news, slimy, can you imagine how I'd be.

1174
01:29:13,359 --> 01:29:15,800
I'd be like, you better do
what I say, or I'm gonna get

1175
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,319
crump. That's how I would be. Really, that's a call back to

1176
01:29:19,399 --> 01:29:23,000
the first hour of the show for
anyone who missed it. I thought you

1177
01:29:23,079 --> 01:29:31,560
would be more like Howard, I'll
show you beat everybody. Yeah, yeah,

1178
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,359
well that's but that. But the
thing is, Tucker already did go

1179
01:29:34,399 --> 01:29:39,560
out and beat everybody. Not anymore. He's got nowhere to view himself from.

1180
01:29:40,399 --> 01:29:44,159
But I'm sure he'll he'll He's gonna
pop up somewhere, my pillow guy.

1181
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:46,279
I'm sure we'll offer him space.
And then, of course Alex Jones

1182
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:51,359
is absolutely going to offer him a
space. I'm sure. Yeah. They

1183
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:56,640
like him, well, they can't, they can't afford him up. They'll

1184
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,159
end up on rumble. He'll get
one of those Stephen Crowder deals. And

1185
01:30:00,359 --> 01:30:02,960
Tucker doesn't need the money anyway,
even even outside of his career. He's

1186
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,880
filthy rich and he spends on how
he's spending his money. He's no,

1187
01:30:06,239 --> 01:30:13,319
but I mean he's he's he was
already wealthy because this is it Swanson Swanson

1188
01:30:13,359 --> 01:30:17,640
Dinners the He's like the air of
whoever created that. Yeah, yeah,

1189
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:24,199
he's got He's already got tons of
he already has an enormous fortune. Isaac

1190
01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:29,319
Banks in the chat room says arned. Isaac Banks says, hello, hashtag

1191
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:34,479
Jay Burkholder, you are the lead
singer of the singing group of Nights Skylard.

1192
01:30:35,239 --> 01:30:43,640
You been replaced by Jeff Beagari from
Wissitt, North Carolina. Hashtag Matt

1193
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:47,600
my friend Jay Burkeholder from North Carolina. He is now in the singing group

1194
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:53,680
of at Nights Skylard. I can't
keep up with all of these changes.

1195
01:30:54,359 --> 01:30:56,800
I just want to know. Here's
what I want to do. I want

1196
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,600
to get all these Greensboro, North
Carolina people. I want to get them

1197
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,119
on this show. I want to
interview them about all these different groups and

1198
01:31:04,119 --> 01:31:10,039
the different people moving between these different
groups. And Texas Mike is now managing

1199
01:31:10,079 --> 01:31:14,199
and producing new affirm of the Spark, and you got the one guy having

1200
01:31:14,239 --> 01:31:16,960
a seizure at the Baptist Church,
and I want to know more. Greensboro,

1201
01:31:17,039 --> 01:31:20,880
North Carolina seems like a fascinating place. I want to know more about

1202
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:32,479
it, so says here. Fox
Nation produces a variety of shows with talent

1203
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:38,239
including Fox News stars as well as
Nancy Grace, Kelsey grammer Roseanne Barr,

1204
01:31:38,319 --> 01:31:42,920
and actor Kevin Costner. When Carlson
signed a new contract with Fox in twenty

1205
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,640
twenty one, he expanded his presidence
on Fox Nation with documentaries and a flagship

1206
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:51,880
show, Tucker Carlson Today, airing
three times per week. That is until

1207
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:58,920
he was ousted from the network last
week. So there you go a little

1208
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:03,560
more a little or Tucker Carlson for
you. There's a comedian called JP Sears.

1209
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:08,439
He heard of this guy. I
think he's like turned into like a

1210
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,720
major, like right wing kind of
dude. He went on to talk about

1211
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:19,279
Carlson's firing. He's a freedom fighter
who exposed the truth. And then that's

1212
01:32:19,319 --> 01:32:25,039
why Fox News feels threatened by him, because they're buying into the globalist agenda.

1213
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:30,960
Oh yeah, and he said that, uh, Tucker has hosted notorious

1214
01:32:31,159 --> 01:32:33,880
anti vaxers. Wait, I went
no, wait, that's the other person

1215
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:39,000
saying that read it backwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So there's a

1216
01:32:39,239 --> 01:32:44,239
there's conjecture out there now, people
referring to him in a saintly fashion.

1217
01:32:45,039 --> 01:32:50,520
Quite literally, he's their lead freedom
fighter. He's one that's out there trying

1218
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:56,560
to prevent the Illuminati and the New
World Order from taking your children and making

1219
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,279
them. Hear a drag performance of
of of Jack and Jill went up the

1220
01:33:00,359 --> 01:33:08,319
Hill. Yeah, yeah, man, he's the freedom Come on, freedom

1221
01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:11,399
fight up. There won't be any
purgatory for him when he dies. He's

1222
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:15,560
going straight up. Oh yeah,
he's a saint. Um, he's a

1223
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,359
saint, don't you know. Isaac
Banks in the chat room says hashtag Matt

1224
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:25,119
and hashtag Jen. My friend Jeff
Pagary is in the Man band singing groups.

1225
01:33:25,399 --> 01:33:32,479
Is Yardbird Blue Sky aboard seven and
Ardell minus five plus Acock Jupiter.

1226
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,680
Okay, no math, no math. I draw the line at math.

1227
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:40,000
I think I think these are part
of the I think they're part of the

1228
01:33:40,119 --> 01:33:45,960
names. Ardell minus five and plus
Acock Jupiter is at side of already take

1229
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,239
it well, it's Yardbird Blue Sky, yeah, which is a nice name.

1230
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,439
And I have to say this,
Jeff bagary guy. He sounds pretty

1231
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,960
busy. I mean, he sounds
like he might be in more bands than

1232
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,279
I used to be in. Oh
wow, that's pretty amazing. That's a

1233
01:33:59,399 --> 01:34:02,640
lot. Uh six three two five
H six O seven is the studio line

1234
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,079
if you'd like to get in six
O three two five O six Z seven.

1235
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:10,640
Um, there was. Yes,
you had mentioned this earlier and this

1236
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,359
is also on media. I Trump
to return to CNN for first time in

1237
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:18,760
seven years for a town hall hosted
by Caitlin Collins. Why CNN and not

1238
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:23,000
Fox? Is he mad at Fox
about something? And you notice where it

1239
01:34:23,119 --> 01:34:28,199
is, don't you? Right here
at Saint Anselm College. Oh way,

1240
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,199
I don't want to vacuum, must
allow my traffic. Wasn't he just here?

1241
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,880
Yeah? He went to the Red
Arrow for a cost problem. Down

1242
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:38,600
there. There was some crazy woman
that follows him around the country. I

1243
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:43,000
guess that showed up here. Yeah, she's she's um, very be jeweled

1244
01:34:45,319 --> 01:34:48,479
jel. Yes, apparently she approached
him at the I think she drove up

1245
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:53,560
from Texas. She follows him everywhere
apparently, Yeah, yes, yes she

1246
01:34:53,920 --> 01:35:00,079
Uh. I think she was in
prison for a bit because she participated in

1247
01:35:00,399 --> 01:35:05,119
January sixth. Yes and yes,
and she said that what does she say

1248
01:35:05,239 --> 01:35:12,680
that Democrats should be executed or something. Yeah, anyway, Trump was perfectly

1249
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:16,680
happy to embrace her. You know
that's uh, that's great. Um,

1250
01:35:17,399 --> 01:35:21,600
but yes, this is from media
i'd CNN announced that Caitlin Collins will moderate

1251
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:27,479
a town hall with former President Donald
Trump in New Hampshire next week. The

1252
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,920
network made the announcement Monday that Collins, co host of CNN This Morning,

1253
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:36,720
will moderate the May ten event at
Saint Anselm College in Gothstown. I assume

1254
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:40,560
it'll be at the Center for Politics, which is a wonderful place. What

1255
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,520
day of the week is that.
That's where I met Vermin Supreme. Um,

1256
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:46,479
I don't know when is May ten, have to figure that out,

1257
01:35:47,159 --> 01:35:50,960
CNN said. Quote. The former
president will take questions from New Hampshire Republicans

1258
01:35:51,039 --> 01:35:57,600
and undeclared voters who planned to vote
in the twenty twenty four GOP presidential primary.

1259
01:35:58,199 --> 01:36:01,039
Here's the full statement. UNA as
a long standing tradition of hosting leading

1260
01:36:01,119 --> 01:36:06,560
presidential candidates for town halls and political
events as a critical component of the network's

1261
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:12,119
robust campaign coverage, this event with
former President Trump will be the first of

1262
01:36:12,319 --> 01:36:15,720
many for CNN in the coming months, as CNN correspondents travel across the country

1263
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,279
to hear directly from voters in the
run up to the twenty twenty four presidential

1264
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:26,279
election, It says here. Media
Eye goes on to say the major interview

1265
01:36:26,319 --> 01:36:30,880
marks Trump's first appearance on CNN in
some time. As president, Trump turned

1266
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:35,399
performative hatred of CNN into a sport, and his supporters followed. One even

1267
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:41,439
sent pipe bombs to the headquarters of
the news network Trump labeled fake news and

1268
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,439
the enemy of the people. Collins
served as White House reporter for CNN during

1269
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,960
Trump's presidency. In twenty twenty one, she was promoted to Chief White House

1270
01:36:49,039 --> 01:36:55,000
Correspondent, taking over for Jim Acosta, who was known for her tough questioning

1271
01:36:55,239 --> 01:36:59,760
of subjects. Last year, she
was tapped by CNN CEO Chris Licht,

1272
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,800
who host the Morning Show. Yes, she was there when Don Lemon made

1273
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:08,560
his comments about Nikki Haley. She
had to sit there uncomfortably for that.

1274
01:37:09,119 --> 01:37:13,640
Yeah, he was man's planning womanhood
to him. Yes, yes, you

1275
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,039
know what I'm wondering. I have
a question though. I remember when I

1276
01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:23,159
was young, the TV stations that
they gave a time to one candidate for

1277
01:37:23,239 --> 01:37:26,119
president, they had to give the
same kind of time for the next candidate

1278
01:37:26,199 --> 01:37:29,840
for president. Is CNN beholden to
that type of rule. No, you're

1279
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,840
talking about about the equal time doctrine, which is long gone. That one

1280
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,720
away in the eighties, did it
Okay? Yeah, I remember it from

1281
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,640
my youth. That's why it's stuck
in my head. Yeah, that went

1282
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:45,079
a weigh under Reagan. That is
what some people blame or credit, depending

1283
01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:48,920
on your point of view, the
rise of conservative talk radio because you know,

1284
01:37:49,039 --> 01:37:54,479
like we were talking on the show
recently about AM radio and how these

1285
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:58,439
electric vehicles. You know, people
like like Sean Hannity and Mark Levin,

1286
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:03,239
they did a segment where they were
outraged that these auto manufacturers making electric vehicles,

1287
01:38:03,279 --> 01:38:06,640
they're going to be leaving out or
they may be leaving out AM radio

1288
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,359
in their cars. And you know, when I was a kid, I

1289
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:13,319
remember there was a lot of talk
about AM radio was going to be on

1290
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:16,600
its way out anyway, because people
didn't like the the quality of it.

1291
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,199
Why do you need AM when you
have FM it's so much better, And

1292
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:27,560
you know AM has that weird whistle
sometimes and all of that, and but

1293
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,119
people say that, you know,
conservative radio was able to find a home

1294
01:38:31,159 --> 01:38:34,880
on AM radio, and not only
did that save AM radio, but had

1295
01:38:35,079 --> 01:38:39,399
the equal time doctrine not been done
away with, then you wouldn't have had

1296
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:45,520
the rise of conservative talk on AM
radio. I agree with it going away,

1297
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:50,159
especially because I don't see how you
could practically, especially now today with

1298
01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:54,359
the internet. You know, how
would you possibly enforce something like that.

1299
01:38:56,119 --> 01:39:00,399
Scott Robinson says in the chat it
was called the fairness doctrine. Oh yes,

1300
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:04,119
and Rupert Murdoch paid a lot of
money to have to have that wife

1301
01:39:04,199 --> 01:39:10,960
to clean while Reagan was president.
I'm not sure about that. I think

1302
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,560
I think Scott uses his voice attacks
sometimes. I'm not sure what that means

1303
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:17,680
either, But um, but but
yeah, I don't see how you would

1304
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:23,279
ever have something like that, just
in a practical standpoint anyway, in today's

1305
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:29,119
media world. Act as the question
on why, I guess CNN decided to

1306
01:39:29,279 --> 01:39:32,279
let him back. It wasn't a
requirement. It wasn't because there was a

1307
01:39:32,359 --> 01:39:35,920
lot Oh yes, because it was
a decision that they chose to allow him

1308
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:41,840
back on. I wonder how limited
that's going to be. Oh, Scott

1309
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,920
says, it was yes, he
said, definitely voiced attacks. He meant

1310
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:49,439
wiped clean. Note not wife to
clean. Wife to clean is yeah,

1311
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:54,960
yeah, that sounded wrong, clean
wrong. He paid a lot of money

1312
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,079
to have to have the Fairness doctrine
wiped clean while Reagan was president. Yes,

1313
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,520
Carls has definitely said some wonderful things
about women. He's a misogyny piece

1314
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:09,199
of you know, a Tucker Carlson. Yes, him too. He once

1315
01:40:09,319 --> 01:40:15,960
reported he once referred to his about
women as his post menopausal fans. Whether

1316
01:40:15,039 --> 01:40:21,600
his postmenopausal fans would think he was
sexy, I like that post menopozzle fans.

1317
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:26,119
Oh, would like how he looks
on his primetime show. While in

1318
01:40:26,199 --> 01:40:30,680
a second he refers to a woman
as yummy, because that's how we love

1319
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,520
to be affirmed too, referred to
as a yummy. All. I love

1320
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:38,119
it when a guy I don't know
from Adam calls me honey or houn or

1321
01:40:38,239 --> 01:40:42,319
babe. Sure you know, sorry, I went down a rabbit hole.

1322
01:40:42,399 --> 01:40:48,680
Well, the postmenopausal thing might have
been a reference to the uh apparently,

1323
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:53,199
I believe the median age. Well
probably not the median age, but I

1324
01:40:53,239 --> 01:40:57,359
think the video, I think I
think for Fox News there there their key

1325
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:01,279
demo is seventy years old. It
was it was I don't say that comment

1326
01:41:01,359 --> 01:41:06,199
that he made, and it's not
okay to say that personally. Yeah,

1327
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:11,239
wanted to know if his post menopausal
fans would like his new luck, right,

1328
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,359
I don't like your old book or
you're a new book. Well,

1329
01:41:14,399 --> 01:41:16,239
remember his old look. He used
to wear a bow tie. Whatever happened

1330
01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:19,680
to the bow tie? He went
to a Trump thie? Is that what

1331
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:23,199
it was? No, he got
rid of the bow tie. He got

1332
01:41:23,279 --> 01:41:25,279
rid of the bow tie before Trump. But I don't I don't know why.

1333
01:41:25,399 --> 01:41:27,840
But I remember, like years ago
when he was on CNN, when

1334
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,640
he when he when he was on
Crossfire, he always wear a bow tie.

1335
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,359
That was like his thing. I
guess at a certain point, I

1336
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,359
wonder if he's ever explained that I've
always been curious about that. Is he

1337
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:41,119
married? I think so that must
be an interesting woman. I believe so.

1338
01:41:41,399 --> 01:41:44,960
Yes, Um, before we run
out of time, one more thing

1339
01:41:45,079 --> 01:41:49,840
here de Santis. This is from
CNBC de Santis Disney overside board votes to

1340
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:56,680
sue company over tax district fight.
Ron de Santis, who is a presumed

1341
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:01,239
presidential candidate. He should be making
an announced probably in June. That's the

1342
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:05,319
most recent thing that I've heard.
Uh. He continues to have this very

1343
01:42:05,399 --> 01:42:11,760
public fight with Disney and absolutely trashing
like one of the biggest employers in his

1344
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:15,800
state, the biggest, it is
the biggest. Disney is the largest in

1345
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,800
the state in the state of Florida. I have a theory, by the

1346
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:23,239
way, that if he had this
to do over again, but he would

1347
01:42:23,239 --> 01:42:26,680
not have done this. I think
he would have you know, after they

1348
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:31,840
after they you know, uh,
after Disney publicly commented on the what is

1349
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,520
often referred to as they don't say
gay Bill. I think De Santis probably

1350
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:41,800
wishes he had just either respectfully disagreed
with Disney or just not said anything,

1351
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:45,880
instead of turning this into a fight
that that that I see. I don't

1352
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:49,199
see any positive in any of this. Veronda Santis No, and he's not

1353
01:42:49,279 --> 01:42:51,800
going to bring any more money into
his state. He's going to cost them

1354
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:56,399
more money if everything they're having to
take over that Disney was taking care of.

1355
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,439
But now that he's in it,
it's like he can't back down.

1356
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,560
All he do is keep pushing forward
and try to defeat Disney, a company

1357
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:08,119
that a lot of Republicans have affinity
for not just Democrats. So I don't

1358
01:43:08,119 --> 01:43:13,199
know how he thinks Disney's got quite
the history. Well, I don't know

1359
01:43:13,319 --> 01:43:18,920
how he thinks this is going to
help him in his bid for the presidency.

1360
01:43:19,159 --> 01:43:23,239
So he had well the Disney World
taking care of roads. Was it

1361
01:43:23,359 --> 01:43:25,880
like seven miles of road? Yeah, it was like their own their own

1362
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,119
little government. Now that's on that. Now that's on the state. He

1363
01:43:29,279 --> 01:43:32,560
had them taken care of policing,
fire and ems. Now that's off of

1364
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,479
the state. Like he just pulled
in. There's no way that the state

1365
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:40,720
comes out better than it went in. And are in this fight no at

1366
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:45,079
all. No, it's only it's
it's gonna hurt citizens of Florida and admitiently

1367
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:46,920
not going to help him, and
it makes him look anti business. How

1368
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:50,920
does that help him win a Republican
nomination looking like he's anti business? Quit

1369
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:55,439
picking a fight with a mouse and
concentrate on what's really going on, you

1370
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:59,920
know, like people walking around looking
like zombies in Florida because they're there's there's

1371
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,640
rampant drug abuse going on, the
homeless everywhere. You know, you got

1372
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:10,119
this beautiful state and a lot of
homeless people going without food, going without

1373
01:44:10,199 --> 01:44:14,319
shelter. I could think of so
many wonderful things he could be concentrating on

1374
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,760
other than arguing with the mouse.
But hey, yeah, it's very strange.

1375
01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:24,359
So some key points from this.
The board of supervisors picked by Florida

1376
01:44:24,399 --> 01:44:29,159
Governor Ron De Santists who oversee Walt
Disney World's operations, voted to sue Disney.

1377
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,079
The vote came after Disney sued to
Santis and the board of members,

1378
01:44:33,399 --> 01:44:38,600
alleging a campaign of political retaliation by
the governor over the company's criticism of a

1379
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:42,640
controversial bill. Yep, that's exactly
where it all started. De Santis is

1380
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:47,640
considered a leading potential Republican candidate for
the twenty twenty four presidential race. And

1381
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,479
this is the hill he's gonna die
on. Yeah, oh yeah, he

1382
01:44:51,079 --> 01:44:56,000
says here. The board of supervisors
picked by Florida Governor Rohnd De santiss oversee

1383
01:44:56,039 --> 01:45:00,800
Disney's operations, voted to sue Disney
in response to the company's recent federal lawsuit

1384
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:05,760
alleging a campaign of political retaliation.
The panel, which challenged the company's longstanding

1385
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:13,119
self governing status when it replaced a
Disney backed board weeks earlier, unanimously voted

1386
01:45:13,159 --> 01:45:17,680
to authorize a lawsuit in state court. Quote, this district will seek justice

1387
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:23,399
in state court here in central Florida, where both it and Disney reside and

1388
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:28,039
do business. Unquote, board chair
Martin Garcia said at a Monday morning meeting

1389
01:45:28,239 --> 01:45:30,359
where the legal fight was the sole
topic of business. Quote, Yes,

1390
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:38,239
we'll see justice in our own backyarde
Disney sued De Santis and the oversight panel

1391
01:45:38,359 --> 01:45:43,520
last Wednesday and US District Court in
Tallahassee. The company asked to effectively restore

1392
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,880
its control over the special tax district
and is allowed it to self govern its

1393
01:45:48,039 --> 01:45:56,119
Orlando area parks operations since the nineteen
sixties. The litigation escalated a fight that

1394
01:45:56,279 --> 01:46:00,920
between more than a year earlier.
That began more than a year earlier when

1395
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:05,359
the entertainment giant criticized the Florida bill
limiting talk of sexual orientation and gender identity

1396
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:11,359
in classrooms. The bill, dubbed
Don't Say Gay by its opponents, was

1397
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:15,960
passed by the state's GOP held legislature
and signed by to Santis in March twenty

1398
01:46:15,039 --> 01:46:20,319
twenty two. Within weeks, the
governor and his allies started targeting Disney's Special

1399
01:46:20,399 --> 01:46:27,159
Governance District, which at the time
was called the Red Creek Improvement District.

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01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:31,279
Disney filed its lawsuit on the same
day that the Governor's board members voted to

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01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:38,479
undo a development deal that the company
struck right before the Santis Choices took over,

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essentially throttling the new board's power.
Garcia said of Disney's lawsuit during Monday's

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meeting. Quote, In essence,
Disney is asking a federal court in Tallahassee

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01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:54,039
to wrestle back the hands of time
to nineteen sixty seven. For us to

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01:46:54,119 --> 01:46:58,760
be stuck in an urban planning design
of nineteen sixty seven. Does that make

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01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:01,680
sense to anybody? Quote, Garcia
said, arguing that the board is just

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trying to modernize the district. The
Disney spokesman declined to comment on the board's

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vote, but disney civil complaint alleged
that the state's actions amount to quote a

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clear as clear a case of retaliation
as this court is ever likely to see.

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Unquote. The company noted the state's
issues with the district only began after

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the fight over the classroom bill.
Oh, of course that's not a coincidence,

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Disney's lawsuits said, quote. There
is no room for disagreement about what

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01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,760
happened here, Disney expressed its opinion
on state legislation and was then punished by

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the state for doing so. Unquote. Disney filed the complaint while DeSantis was

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01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:44,319
overseas on a political trip that appeared
to be laying more groundwork for a possible

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01:47:44,399 --> 01:47:47,560
run for the twenty twenty four Republican
nomination. De Santis, who is expected

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01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:51,560
to announce his plans after the Florida
state legislature ends in early May, is

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01:47:51,640 --> 01:48:00,279
considered a top contender against former President
Donald Trump, but the extended row against

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01:48:00,359 --> 01:48:05,600
Disney, one of Florida's top employers, has recently begun to generate criticism from

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some of DeSantis's fellow Republicans. So
there you go, yeah, Chris Christy

1421
01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:15,239
said, uh yeah, I don't
think. I don't think DeSantis is a

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01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:20,359
conservatives. He's anti business. So
there you go. Like I said,

1423
01:48:20,399 --> 01:48:24,920
I don't see how this helps him. It doesn't. This is this is

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01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:28,359
doing no good, no good.
And you know what the other side of

1425
01:48:28,399 --> 01:48:30,680
this too is he's spending all his
time with this fight with Disney. How

1426
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:34,000
much is he really doing for kimpaigning
to be president of the United States?

1427
01:48:34,079 --> 01:48:38,880
You know, this is central news
on him. If you look him up,

1428
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,000
that's everything that pops up. Punch
his name and it all comes up

1429
01:48:42,039 --> 01:48:45,520
Disney, Disney, Disney, Disney. I I don't see how that helps

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01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,920
in any way, shape or form
to get him elected to president. Right

1431
01:48:49,039 --> 01:48:54,640
when the should I say, when
the nomination? Yeah, now it does.

1432
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,079
Well, I still think Trump is
going to be the nominee anyway.

1433
01:48:58,279 --> 01:49:00,960
But yeah, Scott Robinson and Chaton
says, when I look at De Santis,

1434
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:03,800
all I see is a pompous ass, I can't stand that guy.

1435
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:10,119
And no, right, yeah,
I'm right there with you, right there

1436
01:49:10,199 --> 01:49:14,319
with you. Well, we are
about out of time, so we'll begin

1437
01:49:14,399 --> 01:49:17,159
to wrap up. Jenny, did
you want to uh plug your website?

1438
01:49:17,239 --> 01:49:21,199
And can people still people can still
sign that petition? Right absolutely, the

1439
01:49:21,239 --> 01:49:28,800
petition is still up. It is
at they're a little over thirty nine hundred

1440
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:34,800
signatures. You can reach it by
going to p p ls dot ac black

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01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:42,039
backslash, gen Care PPLs dot ac
backslash. J E n n C A

1442
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,680
r E. Check me out at
my website at gencoffee dot com, g

1443
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:49,760
n n C O F fey dot
com and look for my new articles coming

1444
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:54,880
out in the mighty and maybe even
some experts from the book I'm working on

1445
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,960
at some point, just cross the
thresholded over twenty one hundred, twenty one

1446
01:49:59,039 --> 01:50:01,399
thousand words, I should say yes
on my way to my goal of summer

1447
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:05,199
around eighty ish. All very good, Yeah, very good, Yeah,

1448
01:50:05,359 --> 01:50:08,800
all right, it's all good.
And tomorrow on the show, in the

1449
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,680
second hour, we'll have Abner two
here that will be our musical guest.

1450
01:50:12,039 --> 01:50:14,800
Looking forward to that, and of
course if you miss any part of today's

1451
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:17,239
show, it will be up in
just a little bit at WMNH radio dot

1452
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:23,600
org and on my website Matt Connerton
dot com. So I think we will

1453
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:27,239
leave you today with a little bit
of Day to Attend track called Hope my

1454
01:50:27,399 --> 01:50:30,560
Way. I saw this pop up, I said, yeah, that's that's

1455
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,560
good. We haven't we haven't played
any Day to Attend in a while.

1456
01:50:33,039 --> 01:50:35,479
And don't forget, of course,
to be back bright and early seven am

1457
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:39,800
for the morning show with Peter White. And that's going to do it for

1458
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:43,319
us for now. We will talk
at you all a little bit later.

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By everybody,