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What no, man, 43 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:30,279 don't you go away? You know what, man? You know what you 44 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:58,439 want? Your bout you go? What you did? You got your don't 45 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,319 that is? Don't you? By grim Rock as we are in our number 46 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,439 two New Marrow dose of Matt Connorton unleashed on this Saturday morning, April thirteen, 47 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:42,279 two thousand twenty four from the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM 48 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,920 on Canal Street in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, and I believe we have 49 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:53,160 Grimrock with us live via Skypillo. Hey, mister Manda, how you doing 50 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,480 good? How are you? Welcome back? I appreciate being back. This 51 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,519 is great. So, by the way, so I had something planned, 52 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,639 so you sent us this wonderful package, and unfortunately the video component of our 53 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,519 Facebook feed is not working. I wanted to pull this out live on the 54 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,160 air and kind of show everybody on video. Uh but uh, well, 55 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:17,879 but radio is theater of the mind, so that's all right. But but 56 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,199 I had I had waited on this. Although Jenny's got a video going, 57 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:29,040 so I'm uh, you sent us this wonderful package which I'm unboxing now, 58 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,639 so Jenny's getting video of it. But are are you streaming that live or 59 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:36,000 are you just recording it? Just recording it? Okay, I did it 60 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:42,040 very quickly. But grim you sent us this uh okay, this five song 61 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,519 EP and uh and you personalized it to Matt and Jenny. Thank you and 62 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,639 some stickers. Oh wait, oh we've got a oh we've got a button 63 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:53,439 yep and a guitar pick. Very cool. And by the way, I 64 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:56,839 want you to know you can't see it on video today unfortunately, but we 65 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,439 are going to take a picture afterwards. Jenny and I are both wearing our 66 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,800 shirts that you had yes given us, sir. Oh, this is very 67 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:07,079 wow. You really send us so you went all out on this. This 68 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,759 is very cool. I think I'm going to make a frame for that. 69 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:13,720 We're gonna have to take a lot of pictures here. Yeah, and I 70 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,199 think that will look really cool to frame them up. Yeah. Oh yeah, 71 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,759 we'll hang that in the office. We can we can do something to 72 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:22,439 where we spread these out on a table and take a picture and post it. 73 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,759 Absolutely absolutely, And I'll definitely get a picture to show you. And 74 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:31,200 I'll add stickers to my computer. I have the rainbow sticker that you gave 75 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,200 me on my computer. Sweet. I need to reorder those. I'm out 76 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,000 of those. Yeah, there's a couple of guitar picks in here. Dude, 77 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,240 you went all out. Thank you. Awesome, You're welcome. I'm 78 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:46,600 glad to be able to send things like that to people we know. Oh 79 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,559 well, we love you. We love your music. And if people don't 80 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:54,080 see your logo, now check us out the Matt Content Unleashed page and you'll 81 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,360 you'll be able to see the logo in a little bit here. Nice. 82 00:08:56,639 --> 00:08:58,639 Yeah, and I love that, you know. I had to play don't 83 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,600 check. I love that song so much. Yeah. If you are just 84 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,840 joining us, I grim Rock is here with this via Skype. And by 85 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:07,919 the way, if you have any questions or feedback or anything at all for 86 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,279 our guests, the studio line is open. You can call us live on 87 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,720 the air at six O three two five O six oh seven six O three 88 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:18,320 two five O six oh seven. You can also, of course, uh 89 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:22,879 interact into opine in the Facebook live chat. I see Miriam Banish has joined 90 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:26,799 us in there, and uh Lewis Tive is in the Facebook live chat and 91 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:30,039 he says legend yeah you and he now we've had him on the show as 92 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,320 well. You and he did something together. Correct, We we've done a 93 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:39,440 few things together. He was actually responsible the Haunted video. A section in 94 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,120 there, the goth model that's his wife. Oh no, kidding, Yeah, 95 00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:45,960 he sent it. He sent the video footage clear from Staffordshire, UK, 96 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,279 and uh, I integrated him with the footage that I did here. 97 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,720 It was completely di I y, it was. It was really good. 98 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,559 We've done all kind of things though. That's really cool. Is that? 99 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:58,600 How is that how we met him through you? Or did we meet you 100 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:03,039 through him? Or no? I think yeah, I'm pretty sure it was 101 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,120 him through me because I got it from someone else, you know what I 102 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,120 mean. It was kind of everything's passed on, you know, right right, 103 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,919 yeah, Yeah, he's amazing. He's amazing. Now now where in 104 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,879 Pennsylvania are you again? Refresh our memories? I am in I'm just outside 105 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:22,519 of Pittsburgh, okay, okay, and uh, what's been going on with 106 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:26,080 you? You've got some news? I remember Jenny and I I think we 107 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:28,840 were watching it live. In fact, you were signing a deal live on 108 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,919 Uh? Was was it on Facebook? You were signing a distribution deal? 109 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,159 Yeah? I did it on I actually did it on YouTube and and posted 110 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,720 it everywhere, but yeah, yeah, through Golden Robot Records and uh, 111 00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:48,679 I actually got a little story for that one. So almost two years to 112 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:56,000 the week before this all happened, I had seen a post for a singles 113 00:10:56,039 --> 00:11:01,360 competition and I had just put out grim Rock Radio to say, and I 114 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:05,679 was really super excited about the song and i'd sent it. Well. A 115 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,759 couple of weeks later, I was watching the podcast that I was helping sponsor 116 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,840 the competition, and the guy was like, don't Boris get to the chorus, 117 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:18,159 and I was like, that's it. So that actually actually caused me 118 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,440 to change the track to have the lights out, burned it down at the 119 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:26,279 very beginning to lead it in. Yeah, and I also messed the application 120 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,440 up. I was so excited about it. I ended up putting two songs 121 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,759 on, not a photo in a song. It was just all But anyway, 122 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,200 I saw another post that they were looking to put on some people for 123 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:39,279 distribution and I was like, well, I'll try it, and I sent 124 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,799 an email and it took a little while and they got back and they asked 125 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:45,559 for music, and I was like, well, here we go again. 126 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,200 So I sent him a couple of tracks and it was like ten minutes and 127 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,679 they come back and I was like, wow, and here I am, 128 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:56,600 you know, very good now. So for those and you know, we 129 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,679 have a lot of people who listen to the show who are music of course, 130 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,440 or some who are involved in other elements of the business. So for 131 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:07,320 those who don't know, for the uninitiated, So what does that do for 132 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:13,200 you exactly a distribution deal and and why is that important to have for me? 133 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,879 I mean, you know, as an independent artist, you know, 134 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,960 we all can do distribution ourselves through different platforms. I was doing it through 135 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,399 Distro Kid. And the real process of the thing that I'm looking forward to 136 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:30,000 for this is actually the reach. You know. So basically you're going to 137 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,120 send the music to the whatever company you have a distribution deal with. They'll 138 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,039 redistribute it for you and it'll be on their page, so you get their 139 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,639 exposure, you know, their their reach, some different things like that, 140 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:48,000 they do some pr In this case, I'll be sending the g R five 141 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,960 album to them as a release and then several months later I'll be probably doing 142 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,799 another release forum and which will be really cool and you know, hopefully I 143 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,559 can kind of pick up you know, maybe opening acts, you know, 144 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,399 any area for people that are on their label and stuff. I mean, 145 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,919 there's there's still more to be talked about with this, but I have I 146 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,000 have high hopes with it, you know, and I'm really excited about it. 147 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,320 Yeah, very cool. Now the EP, So now this is already 148 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,639 out right, this has been released or or are you waiting for for them 149 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,279 to release it? No, I still have a couple of tracks and I 150 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,039 gotta send them those as well. Oh okay, okay, yeah, So 151 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,399 Angry is one that's on I believe is it on that yeah sampler? Yeah, 152 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,679 Angry is track one on the sampler. It is something that's not out 153 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:41,919 yet, and that will be part of the tracks that nobody has really heard, 154 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,480 you know. Oh okay, cool? Cool? Yeah, yeah, 155 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,000 because we've got and also this track Abyss, which which I think we're gonna 156 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,240 play at the end of the segment, and you've got it. It says 157 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,879 lyrics by Angel. What does that say? Angel? Vow? Angel Vow? 158 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Now? Who is that and why are you? Why do they have 159 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,840 because I assume the lyrics for your other songs you've written them yourself. Right, 160 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,320 Uh? Yeah, Faded will be one. It's Jason Clem and I 161 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:16,000 have some other ones in the process. So Angel is actually a friend of 162 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:22,440 mine and she lives in the Pittsburgh area and we've talked for a long time. 163 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:24,480 We've met, you know, we've gone to football games, you know, 164 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,840 stuff like that. And she's actually a writer. She writes books and 165 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:33,919 she's self published and she's doing really well with that. And one day shed 166 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:37,039 we were talking about some stuff and I was like, well, you know, 167 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,159 I had other people, you know, send me lyrics, you know, 168 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,600 like city. You know, Cities was a poem that I changed into 169 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,159 music for Matt Oyster. But so she sent me the stuff for Abyss and 170 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,559 we put it together and that, I'm telling you that really had changed my 171 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:58,639 whole perspective of things. When I did that particular song, just a series 172 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:03,519 of event happened that just really unlocked everything, I think for where we're sitting 173 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:07,399 today, you know what I mean, And I mean everything from you know, 174 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:13,000 the model that was in the video to the person who shot the video. 175 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:16,960 We did it in Cleveland, Ohio. I had another interview with a 176 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:24,039 different podcast and they're mixing guy Matt Kershner actually had messaged me afterwards and wanted 177 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,159 to mix the song and do it oh, turned into a long term thing. 178 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,519 And he's actually at Pine Box Studios in Connecticut. So I sent him 179 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:35,679 tracks. He mixes them and sends them back, and that's what that particular 180 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,559 disc has. It's it's new mixes of the tracks that I have, with 181 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:43,879 the exception of Abyss. Abyss was released as his mix. You know what 182 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:46,039 I mean? Oh, okay, okay, Yeah, that's pretty cool. 183 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,159 When you hear from somebody you don't expect to and they're like, hey, 184 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:52,840 I like what you're doing so much. I want to I want to mix 185 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,039 this for you. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I was. I was 186 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,120 completely blown a way and I thought it was gonna be one and I was 187 00:15:58,159 --> 00:15:58,559 like, well, you know, we'll check it out. And I was 188 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,679 listening. Ended up being everything you know, And he's going to finish mixing 189 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,080 this disc and hopefully I get to work with the more, you know, 190 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:08,120 in the future. Man, he's a he's a cool dude. That's fantastic. 191 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:11,639 H Lewis Ivey in the chat room says you belong you see as the 192 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:18,639 best song. He says that he's told me that a million times. Yeah, 193 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:19,879 and you know it's funny because you know, like I said, his 194 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:22,639 Wife's and Haunted. Now I kind of expected Haunted to be the best song, 195 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,480 but it's he likes you belong to See a lot of people like that. 196 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,679 And I actually opened my shows with with the new Angry track and you 197 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:33,759 belong to see Tied Together. Oh okay, one longer track. So yeah, 198 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,840 that's that's super cool. Now, who is uh? Who is disposing 199 00:16:37,919 --> 00:16:42,440 with the guitar on the cover? That is my cover model. And that's 200 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:48,240 that's another thing that happened, Like in the process whole this thing. I 201 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,559 had an interview actually with her. She does little interviews on her YouTube channel 202 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:59,120 and she goes by the name of tattoo Baby twenty three on all the social 203 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:03,840 media, including you. And one day I was perusing her page and I 204 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,440 saw that photo and I was like, man, that would make a great 205 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:10,400 album cover. And so I had messaged her and I was like, hey, 206 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,839 you know anybody uses for albut covers. She's like, no, nobody 207 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,400 has yet, you know. And I was like, well, if nobody 208 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,200 does, let me know. I didn't hear anything for a while, and 209 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:21,279 I was like, well, maybe I'll message her back. So I messaged 210 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:25,559 again about it and she's like, yeah, go ahead, and she talked 211 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:27,279 to her guy that actually took the photo. It was done in Texas by 212 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:33,559 a guy named David Diaz, and they were really cool with it. And 213 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,720 that's that turned into the cover for g R five. In a long term 214 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:42,960 relationship with her with different things, and man, I'm really I'm thankful for 215 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,559 everything that's happened since that whole Abyss thing happened. I mean, it's just 216 00:17:47,759 --> 00:17:52,640 so many twists and turns. Yeah, and no, that's really cool. 217 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,400 But by the way, why is it called g R five? Is it? 218 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,119 Is it your fifth release? So technically it's my fifth release. I 219 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:07,519 had four yeah, four out technically, so three actual EPs, and then 220 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:12,279 I actually had a single called Everything Is on Fire and it's actually in a 221 00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:17,759 different tuning and I haven't done anything else in that tuning, so I kind 222 00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:19,039 of left it stranded, and I was like, well, I don't have 223 00:18:19,079 --> 00:18:22,359 to be my fourth kind of release. It was just a single, you 224 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,559 know, So it's just Grimrock five. Yeah, Okay, can you tell 225 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,960 us again about and I'm sure we talked about it last time, but your 226 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,119 recording process? Am I am? I remembering correctly that you do everything yourself. 227 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,759 Yes, I do everything in house. I have a little home studio. 228 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,599 I have drum kits, bass guitars. I have everything at my disposal 229 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,799 here. I do all the recording and all the vocals and things, and 230 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,559 you know, I preliminarily mix them, you know. And now, like 231 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:56,880 I said, I send them Matt. But before I was actually doing the 232 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,640 mixing stuff here, and I was getting the aid of like you know, 233 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:04,319 the emastering kind of thing online to help me make some master better you know, 234 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,759 than what I could. Yeah, but I have an advantage now. 235 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,519 So yeah, now that's that's great to be able to do everything yourself. 236 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,599 Have you done it that way from the beginning, Yes, I have. 237 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:18,880 I've played with bands before and different things. Yeah. You know, I 238 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,359 lived just far enough south of Pittsburgh that I'm in a little spot that just 239 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:26,119 you know, everybody wants to play cover tunes and you know, hit the 240 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:29,200 bar scene on the weekends and make the guaranteed money, and nobody wants to 241 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,480 take the risk, you know, to play stuff even in the spot that 242 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:34,880 you know I keep pushing too. You know. Yeah, they're just not 243 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,440 comfortable with, well, we're not making any money on it, you know, 244 00:19:37,559 --> 00:19:41,200 we're doing it here, you know, right, and it's just kind 245 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,680 of been whatever. I mean. Hopefully one day I get to have a 246 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,160 full band to play out with. You know, that'd be really really cool. 247 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:49,160 So what is it like now when you play out? Is it? 248 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,680 Is it just you? Or does anyone ever join you? Or how does 249 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,319 that work? Well? It's just me. So what I have is I 250 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,359 have all the backing tracks on the table with minus every guitar part and all 251 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,240 the vocals. Okay, so it kind of puts me this a lot where 252 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,279 I have to play the guitar and then I break from the rhythm guitars to 253 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:07,839 play the lead guitar, and it sounds a little thin through those areas, 254 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,319 but you know, it shows that I'm doing it, you know what I 255 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,400 mean? Yeah, And that's that's more important to me than the overall thing. 256 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:18,839 You know, give you a little different performance, show that I am 257 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,200 doing it, and I do all the vocals, and don't you just a 258 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:25,319 cool one because you know, I have that backing vocal in it and I 259 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,599 actually have to take real quick breath to put all that stuff in together. 260 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:33,160 I actually, I actually do play it and it does actually sound like that 261 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,440 in there. So yeah, live, yeah, oh, that's cool, 262 00:20:36,519 --> 00:20:38,319 but yeah, I can see where that would be a challenge to do that. 263 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,720 Oh yeah, especially at the end, you know what I mean, 264 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,799 right right, Yeah, no doubt. How long do you play for? 265 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,960 When you play out? How long of a set do you do? Generally 266 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:49,880 forty to forty five minutes, depending on where I'm at sometimes, you know, 267 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,039 I hit a lot of open mics around the area to try to get 268 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:56,359 some local action. Yeah, which I do have some news that nobody knows 269 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,880 yet, oh that you're going to share it here? Yeah, I don't 270 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,880 know. Awesome. They haven't announced it announcement, but I got an email 271 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,759 this morning from Millville Music Festival and that's just that's around the Pittsburgh area and 272 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:11,240 it's a it's a really large festival and they have like three hundred local bands 273 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:15,079 and stuff like that. Yeah, and I got selected for it. So 274 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:18,720 May eighteenth, Oh, I can't say much more than that because I don't 275 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,960 they have to confirm times and you know all that. But May eighteenth, 276 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:26,200 I will be playing a festival there. So that'll be two festivals now that 277 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,279 I'm guaranteed this year. And I was waiting for a third one from Morgantown. 278 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,079 So hopefully I get that one as well. Oh congratulations. Yeah. 279 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,480 Festivals are are huge, are key for really helping you to build a fan 280 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:41,920 base because it gets you in front of a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't 281 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,039 know you at all necessarily, you know, And so that's that's fantastic now 282 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:49,599 is so you mentioned there's another festival that you're already confirmed for. H yeah, 283 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:55,119 July fifth. It's a Lambfest. It's an inaugural festival. It's going 284 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,359 to be near Eerie, PA in Linesville, Pennsylvania. Okay, And it's 285 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,000 a are doing four weekends like a ton of artists And I'm on the inaugural 286 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:08,559 weekend day Friday, the fifth, and I'm actually the third act I think, 287 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,799 or second act or something like that on the second stage. So okay, 288 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:15,759 it'll be really cool. It's all open air. I can't wait. 289 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,440 I love playing open air shows, do you Yeah? Why what is it 290 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,480 about it that you like? It's just the environment, you know, you's 291 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,519 just not closed in, you know, the sound just travels, and just 292 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,200 it's the people. It's just it's a whole different thing, you know. 293 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:33,599 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, When when you play out do you do the 294 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:40,200 whole because obviously if people have seen you online, you know you're you're You've 295 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,200 got a whole vibe going. I don't know quite quite how else to describe 296 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,759 it, but it's it's kind of theatrical and whatnot. Do you do that 297 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,000 for all your live shows? I do it for most of them. So 298 00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:52,759 if I do an open mic and it's an acoustic or it's something that I 299 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,079 know and I'm going to play only like three or four songs, I don't 300 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,359 get all painted up. But you know, for my normal shows and the 301 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,599 festivals and things like that, I definitely get painted up for sure. Yeah. 302 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,359 Yeah, Are there any live videos of you online? Or obviously have 303 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,079 videos, but do you have any? I'm curious, if partly just selfishly, 304 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,160 I'm curious to see what it's like live. Do you have anything live 305 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,200 recorded? Yes? I do. I have on my YouTube page a bunch 306 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:25,039 of live stuff. And actually it's funny should ask that I had an incident 307 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,519 where I was at the Rock Room in Pittsburgh. I think it was this 308 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:30,680 past September, I think where the YouTube I was going to stream the whole 309 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:37,240 thing and my wife was helping me stream and the stream failed and somehow or 310 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:41,839 another I ended up with a video that had like like a portion of the 311 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,519 product and the whole Grim Rock Radio, but it was in great quality. 312 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,160 Like I was like, I was really kind of I couldn't believe my phone 313 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:53,240 with the mic and it took that yea, but apparently she had took that 314 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,880 in between and went back live. Well live sounds terrible because of the because 315 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,440 of the situation. It was a small thing. It was very loud. 316 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:04,039 Yeah, my mic didn't do very good job and it was really jittering on 317 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,960 the YouTube. But I ended up finding that and I actually just posted that. 318 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:11,880 I don't know, I think this past Tuesday or something, but grim 319 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,759 Rock Radio live performance at the Rocker Room in Pittsburgh is one of the last 320 00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:22,799 ones I posted. I posted up for the hard Rock in Pittsburgh not too 321 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,559 long ago. That one's audio. I lost the video, But I have 322 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,440 other video live videos on there. Yeah yeah, different places. Yeah yeah 323 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:34,319 cool. Now I'm curious to to take a look at those. Do you 324 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,720 have other artists in the area that you play with in terms of that you 325 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:42,319 opened for or they opened for you. Yeah, there's several people. I've 326 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,480 made a lot of friends, you know, with that and Chocheck's one of 327 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:52,039 them. Synaestigie is another one. Vernautica. Just a whole bunch of people 328 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:56,720 around within the region you know that I've talked to are opened for played with 329 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,000 ya. But I keep I keeping a a really good contact with like Choshek 330 00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:04,200 though, especially Jeremy the bass player. We talk all the time. We 331 00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:08,359 actually talked this morning before I come on. But yeah, I mean it's 332 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,519 just you make a bond, you know, with some of these some of 333 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,119 these musicians, and you know, you're usually somewhere where everything or everybody's at. 334 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,319 God Hates Unicorns is another one around the area that I'm friends with, 335 00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:23,319 you know. Just that's a great name, it is. They're a great 336 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,799 band too, they really are. Oh we might have to get them on 337 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,839 God Hates Unicorns. That's a fantastic name. Very cool. I mean, 338 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,799 but you're you kind of stand out right, I mean, obviously for what 339 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:42,119 you're doing. You're you're I mean, is there anybody in your area who's 340 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,279 doing anything like what you're doing it? It just seems like the grim rock 341 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,960 is so unique with the whole vibe and your sound too. I can't think 342 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,079 of anybody, I mean, Lewis Tivee from what I recall when we had 343 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,400 him on a little bit of I can I can see why the two of 344 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,400 you are able to work together. But you've got a unique sound. It's 345 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,759 got a little bit of a I know we talked about it before, but 346 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,319 to me, it's it's got a little bit of almost a garage rock kind 347 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,240 of vibe to it. And uh, I don't know. I mean, 348 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:18,240 is there anybody there who's doing anything like what you're doing? I don't think. 349 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,920 So. You know, there's a band that's around the area that has 350 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,559 I think they wear a mask that they're called thirteen o'coll. I've talked to 351 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,480 them. They play some different places. I hope to play a show with 352 00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:33,319 them. But yeah, outside of that, I don't There's not very many 353 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,319 people that I know around here that's, you know, got a stage thing 354 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,000 like that or sounds like that. And you're right, it is more garage 355 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:42,960 rock, you know, because I'm a I'm a fan of like especially the 356 00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:47,960 late sixties garage rock sound, you know, that raw sound, and I 357 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:51,000 try to I try to reproduce that, yeah, you know, faithfully, 358 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,319 you know, but you know, update it like I do. You know, 359 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,319 what I mean. Yeah, Uh, Stephen van Zandt used to have 360 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,759 a show. I don't think it exists anymore, or maybe it hasn't for 361 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,920 a long time. I don't even remember what it was called. I don't 362 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,000 know if you ever heard it, though it was, but it was all 363 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,079 That's what it was about. His His show, I think it was on 364 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,240 satellite radio, was all about garage rock because there's so much of that stuff 365 00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:17,039 that you know, most most people aren't even aware of, or bands that 366 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:19,799 they might have heard of but have never actually listened to. But it's a 367 00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:26,160 it's a fascinating genre. And I really like that production style and like I 368 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:26,960 said, that song, don't you, I just like, you know, 369 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,279 it's got that whole vibe to it, and I just really love it, 370 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,400 you know, and it's catchy as hell too, you know, it's just 371 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:37,480 really it gets stuck in your head. Yeah, I like that in grim 372 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:41,359 rock radio like the two that I really like playing live, and they're more 373 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,200 the commercial sounding, you know, thing that maybe somebody would play on a 374 00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:48,240 radio, a real radio, you know, mainstream radio, yeah, versus 375 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119 maybe the rest of them. Even though I, you know, I do 376 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,519 try to keep everything somewhat that it could get moved over, but it's still 377 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,480 kind of the indie style, you know thing. I try. I try 378 00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:03,559 to blend it the best I can. Are people surprised when you play out, 379 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:08,279 when you when you are painted up, and it's because it's almost visually 380 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,759 it's it's got a little bit of a goth vibe. But then it's it's 381 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,279 not that. Do you surprise people? And if and if you do, 382 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,920 is it fun to surprise people? Because I would imagine it is. I 383 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:22,160 think I do. I think I catch people off guard with that because I 384 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,880 think they're expecting like slip nods and they see this and they're like, oh, 385 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,839 this guy's gonna be aultra heavy, And you know, I think I've 386 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,759 gotten a couple of shows, like the Rocker Rooms one of them that I 387 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,480 think that they thought maybe I was maybe heavier than I was, you know, 388 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,240 and I ended up being like I felt like I was like, uh, 389 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:41,839 you know, like light rock, like air Supply and that whole thing, 390 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,039 because those guys were heavy and they were I mean, they were lights 391 00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:45,519 out bands. I mean I loved it. Yeah, But I think I 392 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,319 do catch people off guard with that, you know, and and once you 393 00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:51,480 know, people see me a look like that. I think they you know, 394 00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:56,680 they're they're in the perception they have of it changes and they're like, 395 00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:57,640 wow, this guy, you know, he actually sounds all right, you 396 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,079 know, at least I hope. So yeah, yeah, that's gotta be 397 00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,559 fun though, too, right. I mean, at least I know that 398 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,759 if I were in that position, I would take some sort of perverse joy 399 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,279 in that, Like people think that one thing is about to happen and then 400 00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:12,400 it turns out to be something else, and just just seeing the surprise on 401 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,680 people's faces, I would think that would be fun. Oh it is. 402 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,240 You know. You can open the show and you're like, you know, 403 00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:21,839 and then you just start into something. You don't really even introduce yourself, 404 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,240 you know. Like that's one of the things that I do every show, 405 00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,039 is I do not introduce myself right away. Yeah, I'll rip out a 406 00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:30,559 couple tracks and then I'll tell you who I am. If you haven't figured 407 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,799 it out by then, right, you know, but I'll do that. 408 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,319 And you know, another thing to do is I travel like that. So 409 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,039 if I have a g like the Green Beacon Galleries June eighth, that's in 410 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:44,960 Greensburg, Pennsylvania. So I'll travel that in my paint. So usually when 411 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,920 I do that kind of stuff, I'll like stop in a store a couple 412 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,960 of monster or something, and I'll either scare the crap out of everybody, 413 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,400 or somebody take a picture. I had somebody say it's not Halloween. I'm 414 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,920 like, yeah, it is so cool, and I'm like, can I 415 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,599 have your picture? I'm like yeah, you know little kids running away? 416 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,200 Was running away? You know in a dollar story. You know, Oh 417 00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:08,759 yeah, hey, I come out of his sheets. I picked up it's 418 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,200 talking about Angel. I come out of his sheets up where she lives at 419 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,680 to travel to Cleveland for the first photo shoot for abyss Yea, And this 420 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,680 lady was like in her thing and she cracked her window in her car. 421 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,559 You can I'll have to have Angel send you this. She cracked her window 422 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,559 in her car and she's like, why are you so scary? I'm like, 423 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:29,839 do I look scary? She's like yeah. I'm like, but I'm 424 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,920 not really scary. She's like no. I'm like yeah, I'm like, 425 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,680 hey, can I get a picture with you? She's like uh, And 426 00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:38,160 then she did like I think reluctantly. But I ended up posting on my 427 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,759 web page. She was really cool about it afterwards, but oh okay, 428 00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:47,039 oh yeah, she cracked her window in all Man, I rolling into a 429 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,640 gas station and eerie after a gig that that's a whole nother thing there, 430 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,480 Like I thought the guy was going to hit the alarm. Oh really Yeah, 431 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,000 yeah, I'm just trying to pay for my gas so i can get 432 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,720 home, you know. Like, Yeah, if you walked into a bank 433 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,359 like that, they would hit the alarm. I'm sure, Oh yeah, 434 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,960 I wouldn't make it out of there. I'd be taking I'd be detained fairly 435 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:11,880 fast. I'm sure. No, not like that. I wouldn't. Yeah, 436 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,640 I wouldn't advise it, but yeah, I think like that either they 437 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,200 would not they would not let you on. I'm sure. Yeah. I 438 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,400 don't know if you're a Kiss fan, but hearing you talk about that reminds 439 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,119 me of Uh, there's these pictures of when Kiss first started, of them 440 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,720 in New York City and interacting with different people. And it's New York, 441 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:37,559 so you know, people don't really they expect to see everything and anything. 442 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:41,279 And there's these pictures of Kiss, like sitting on park benches with these these 443 00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:45,279 old people who are just kind of smiling serenely at them because they don't know 444 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,880 what's going on, but they're kind of having fun with it, and they're 445 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,920 they're great pictures. I would encourage anyone to uh just uh google that like 446 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:59,680 Kiss New York City park bench or something. You'll you'll see all these really 447 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,599 fun pictures of of Kiss when they started, and you know, but again 448 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,319 it's it's New York too, so people were less uh shocked, I guess, 449 00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,480 and more just kind of interested in but because you know, you'll see 450 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:17,160 everything in that city. But uh no, that's a that's awesome. Yeah, 451 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,240 I mean, and I would imagine two other musicians must uh like after 452 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,519 a show, after they see your set, you know, they they probably 453 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,240 uh they're they're probably expressed their surprise at at uh at what you at what 454 00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:34,559 they saw. And I'm sure that opens up a lot of opportunities too, 455 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,599 because if you can surprise people, especially if you can surprise your fellow musicians 456 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,920 in that way and and in a positive way because you've got such a cool 457 00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:47,599 sound, that helps you to kind of build build those connections because they're going 458 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,279 to remember if you if you can surprise someone, they're going to remember you. 459 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:58,039 Whereas if otherwise, you know, you might just be another fellow musician, 460 00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:00,599 or you might just be if it's someone who's seen you, somebody in 461 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,920 that audience who's seen you for the first time, you know, just another 462 00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:07,279 just another rock and roll show, right. But if you can surprise people, 463 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,920 they will absolutely remember you. You will be indelibly etched in their brain. 464 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,480 And I think that's I think that's a very cool element to what you 465 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,720 do. Is is that that surprise where the the image you see visually isn't 466 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:24,799 necessarily doesn't necessarily evoke what what is coming. And I think that's really cool. 467 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,720 Oh yeah, and that's how I end up getting the hard rock Pittsburgh 468 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,200 gig, really was because it's you know, a different band, the message 469 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,359 being like, hey, there's an opportunity you might want to check this guy 470 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,920 out. And that's how I ended up getting that. And you're right, 471 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:42,440 I mean, a lot of connections can be made, you know, because 472 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,240 of that. And I really believe that, you know, I mean, 473 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:46,720 I know, a paint up, but I really believe if I did not 474 00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:52,640 have the face painting and a persona that was out there like that, I 475 00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:57,039 wouldn't be seen the same, you know what I mean, I definitely agree 476 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,319 with that. Yeah, yeah, very cool. Well, in a couple 477 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,799 of moments, uh, Graham, we're gonna play this this track abyss uh, 478 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,000 which you were you were talking about earlier. But so so this is 479 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,559 not officially ol gr five. Do do we have any kind of an e 480 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:15,199 t A on on when this is going to be released? So I would 481 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,559 like to tell you yes I do. But I've been at this for a 482 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,840 while, you know, I'm just trying to make sure everything is right. 483 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,000 Yeah, you know, and it's taken me way longer, you know, 484 00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:28,880 with other commitments and things that's going on. And I wish I could have 485 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,360 a time or a time frame, but I'm just you know, I'm hoping 486 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,079 a month or two, you know, more pressing on with this to get 487 00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:39,400 it released. So yeah, excellent. And this track abyss, this has 488 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,840 not been heard anywhere on the radio yet and I actually was played on an 489 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,960 independent radio station before. Yeah, oh okay, I was going for the 490 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,400 world radio premiere. But I know, I wish I could have told you. 491 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,360 I didn't want to tell you otherwise, you know. Yeah, no, 492 00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:59,360 better better to be honest. I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean 493 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,960 I would have love afford to be a premier, believe me, but it's 494 00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:05,119 not. Yeah, that's all right, we'll get the next one. But 495 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,079 where should people go online? Where's the best place for people to go to 496 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:14,880 keep up with everything that you're doing. Best place is grim rockandroll dot com 497 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,440 all spelled out all one word, and you can find me everywhere that way. 498 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,840 And actually if you put Grim rock and Roll spelled out anywhere, you 499 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,159 can find me. So yes, yes, absolutely, and you are very 500 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,960 googleable, as I like to say, which is important, so very I 501 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,559 mean, I'm surprised I come up the way I do. Yeah, well 502 00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:35,880 that's a good thing. That's that's good. All right, Grim we're gonna 503 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,800 we're gonna hit this track abyss uh. We'll let you go in a moment. 504 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,760 But thank you again for joining us today, and thank you for the 505 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:45,000 wonderful package. Like I said, unfortunately our video component isn't working this morning, 506 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:46,320 but Jenny and I will take a picture of it later, and we're 507 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,039 also gonna take a picture of us and our We've both got our Grim shirts 508 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,159 on, our Grimrock shirts that you sent us before. We love these and 509 00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:55,880 we wear them any chance that we get, so we appreciate that and really 510 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,199 love the music, love what you're doing. I definitely appreciate being on here 511 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,239 for a second time. I'm really really thankful for that, and I appreciate 512 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,519 it all the time you have given me. And I'm glad you like the 513 00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,280 stuff. Man. That's that logo, suf man, I'm telling you I 514 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,360 love that logo. I really do. It's on my computer. Yeah. 515 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,360 Yeah, she's got the sticker on her computer too. Yeah. I put 516 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,960 the new one on there too, Yeah yeah, absolutely absolutely all right, 517 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,760 grim thank you, thank you so much, grim Rock, and we will 518 00:36:27,039 --> 00:37:04,559 wrap up the segment with this. This is abyss. Do you talk of 519 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:15,519 bills? Were my shot? Soul sills? My chaotic mind? Can and 520 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:44,880 the lot of fils is some women in fame, damage inflicted time and it 521 00:37:45,159 --> 00:38:51,920 fim my math from where rap fl tipoln nothing is right, the weather chipol 522 00:38:52,760 --> 00:39:28,079 fine jot and a doll about my life of controlling me refusing the sab freeze. 523 00:39:29,559 --> 00:40:09,000 Why caam our job? Well, A side is out of MI when 524 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:38,480 I'm gonna sat uh you folks, American citizens, I am yet where were 525 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:45,880 you born? Missus? What little Telphia? My name is Vargas in jail 526 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,119 see who's here. Sure, mister Vargus, I'm in the trail of another 527 00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:52,239 dope ring. I'm in the trail of a chocolate soda from my wife, 528 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,079 Your wife, Jey, your bride office. Hey, can I get through? 529 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,440 I want to talk up here about how you crack that brandy. Why? 530 00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:02,159 Yeah, you caught the big boys, only one of them. The 531 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,280 Grandies are a big family. Good night, no purchases, mister Kay, 532 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:14,440 you American? This noise, okay, really the noise in my head? 533 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,400 Like, do you realize it's the very first time we've been together in my 534 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:35,800 country? Do you realize I haven't kissed you over an hour? Can't buss 535 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,159 off? No? Say you come? Like what happened? That car that 536 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,760 just passed is exploded? That I don't know. I'll have to try to 537 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,159 find out. You've better not coming east closer. We'll have to post before 538 00:41:49,159 --> 00:42:00,559 in Minnesota. I'm afraid, like Zusie, please be careful staring. With 539 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:06,719 this sprawling, impeccable tracking shot that comes in at over four minutes, and 540 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,280 it concludes with dialogue and a car exploding, we are brought into one of 541 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,920 the highest regarded film noirs in cinema history. This film is from nineteen fifty 542 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:23,000 eight and it is directed by Orson Wells. Following ten years away in Europe, 543 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:30,320 I present to you Touch of Evil. The film stars Wells as corrupt 544 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:36,400 cop Hank Quinlan, who is investigating the car bomb explosion that kills a man 545 00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:42,719 and his stripper girlfriend. His plans in getting a corrupt conviction are thwarted by 546 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:50,840 special Prosecutor Miguel Vargas played by Charlton Heston and his newlywed American wife Susy played 547 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:57,840 by starlet Janet Lee. The conflict between Quinlan and Vargas takes center stage early. 548 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,199 Quinlan is highly regarded by people in the area for his high conviction rate 549 00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:10,920 that is obtained by dubious means. Right away, we can see here and 550 00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:17,920 feel the tension between the quote unquote do gooder that is Vargas and the corrupt 551 00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:23,039 Quinlan. Our first scene is the first encounter that two have with each other. 552 00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:30,480 Then in the second scene where Vargas confronts Quinlan over planting evidence to secure 553 00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:37,840 a confession and hopeful conviction on a man that is secretly married the male victim's 554 00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:45,440 daughter, really pay attention to the tension in the first scene and how they 555 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:51,960 interact with each other. In the second scene, Vargas becomes more apt at 556 00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:57,400 butting heads with Quinlan and doesn't have fear of him. In the second scene, 557 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,840 we should also tell you about my wife why it was accustaned in the 558 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,039 street a little while ago and led across to some guve on your side of 559 00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:08,360 the border. H Parker's family. She's been getting into quite a lot of 560 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:15,840 trouble tonight. Can you describe this man of the first one? Young a 561 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:22,480 king man not exactly exactly says she was taking this guy by force? Not 562 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:28,000 by force. No one of the grandees was their weak, short fat with 563 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,719 a mustachecription. I haven't run into him. What they call him uncle Joe 564 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,760 man? That's right? Go on, what do you mean going? I've 565 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,239 told you what happened. Aren't you going to do something about it? I'm 566 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,599 making a charge, gonna ask a writer. Isn't that police procedure in Mexico? 567 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,440 Proceig your wife was a say she was just say she was molested, 568 00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:53,679 physically molested. Nobs language. I do explained the fact that your wife allowed 569 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,880 herself to be picked up by was picked up Now, Hank, I think 570 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,199 we're getting off of the wrong tech here and this good luck and young man 571 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,920 was a friend of it, obviously not you wouldn't call that getting picture from 572 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,119 now. We mustn't forget, must be that mister Vocas is not a witness 573 00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:12,800 stander. Hank's a born lawyer, you know, lawyer, and a lawyer 574 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,719 or a lawyer cares about it the law. You are a policeman, march 575 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,440 you you don't seem very fond of the job, bloody of soldiers who don't 576 00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:24,159 like war. It's a dirty job forcing the law. But it's what we're 577 00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:28,280 supposed to be doing. Is and I don't know about you. On a 578 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:34,840 murderers loose, I supposed to catch him. Well, pete, let's get 579 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:47,199 back to civilization. Let's go had tolsdry. You gotta get some rising. 580 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,360 Not a chance of that. They got to be dead. And now the 581 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:59,280 second scene, where is it? Foun what partner? Come here along? 582 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,280 I don't even know there's sanches? All right, boy boy, come in 583 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,360 here now? In English? Just how much dynamite was it you stole? 584 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,039 What good would it be to tell you that I've never seen anything? He 585 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,679 did? All he could keep it away from his daughter. She stamps and 586 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,840 haired a million bucks, so naturally you just moved in. He merch and 587 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,519 I were marrying secretly million bucks. Ain't no secret about that. Gods, 588 00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:23,239 candy changees. Well, why don't you let up for a man? Got 589 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:29,079 yourself this highway out in to the explosive's been in, stole ten sticks and 590 00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:35,039 no, well Ick has done it again. He's nailed his man thanks to 591 00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:38,599 you. Pardon me. The dynamite had been a snake then in the battle, 592 00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:42,920 but would have been was chief cool? And I keep you in form 593 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,480 bargains, so I'm doing it. This is it we broke in the case. 594 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,480 Rudy Lineker has blown up with eight sticks of dynamite and Sancho's stole ten. 595 00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:52,840 That leaves two and we found them both. You heard that, boy, 596 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:59,760 We found the dynamite. That's imposta. We found two sticks, like, 597 00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:04,159 what's right number? Where did you find this? Where you at the 598 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,039 stas? Of course, what are you trying to do? Trying to strap 599 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:09,159 you to the electric chair. We don't like it when people are brown to 600 00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:13,280 jelly in our town. There's an old lady on main street last night I 601 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,920 picked up his shoe. Shoe had a foot in it. We're gonna make 602 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,480 you pay for them. They're trying to railroad me. I don't know why. 603 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:28,639 I never stole any dynamite, so you know, send for mother. 604 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,599 He swears on his mother's grave that there has never been any dynamite in this 605 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:39,519 apartment. Sure, sure, take him in booking, let's go. You 606 00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:45,760 say you've found this dynamite air bathroom, Pete found it. Can't you do 607 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:52,599 something to help me? What are you scared of? That stuff is nearly 608 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,760 easy to blow up, as people seem to think. It doesn't go off 609 00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:04,719 quickly. You found the dynamite in this box? Yeah, he founded towards 610 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:12,199 you. Then I looked in that box just now. There wasn't anything there. 611 00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:20,599 I know how you feel. Do You'm sure? I do? Few 612 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:27,880 people are touchy. Film You Are is known for its plot twists and turns. 613 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,440 These turns are often loaded with gross betrayal. We are left wondering at 614 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:38,440 the end of the film, did anyone have intentions without ulterior motives? This 615 00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:45,199 film carries that theory to the next level, even when seemingly detached from the 616 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,199 wicked ways. Within the world of this film, the characters go into the 617 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,440 dark recesses of their minds, and souls, and generally it is under the 618 00:48:54,559 --> 00:49:01,079 guise in belief. The end justifies the means. Next, we will hear 619 00:49:01,199 --> 00:49:07,800 Quinland implicate Vargas's wife for a drug induced murder. The truth is she has 620 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:14,199 been taken to a remote hotel for her protection, but unbeknownst to her husband, 621 00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:19,559 the hotel is owned by Joe Grandy, the brother of a major narcotics 622 00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:24,920 stealer that Vargas has put away. They use this to terrorize her and drug 623 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,679 her. This sets up Quinland starting to lose his grip on the corrupt world 624 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:37,760 he helped cultivate by murdering Grandy and setting up Susie for the crime. What 625 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:45,840 Vargas's wife an arcotics ramp one of the boys that was on this wild party 626 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:52,719 game of the buzzy. I just related to the vice voices Anonymous, the 627 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:58,599 hotel rich room mate. Anyway, things got a lot of control. Will 628 00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:05,039 be surprised what they find. But what about me, Hans, what do 629 00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:09,960 I do? Keep back them, break him, break him, put up 630 00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:30,199 there for him. Let's see what you were? The key told you about 631 00:50:30,199 --> 00:51:25,559 you up here for a reason. No drinking, don't ury lester, h 632 00:51:25,840 --> 00:52:16,280 No, No, really bad you no As with any noir film, there 633 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:22,800 has to be a climactic ending touch of evil certainly delivers that as Vargas and 634 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:30,239 Quinland meet for a final showdown. In this scene. Notice how Quinlan, 635 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:36,199 despite being figured out, despite being at the end of the road, refuses 636 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,039 to back down. He has been defeated, his corrupt reign is over, 637 00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:45,400 but yet he is still defiant in the face of law and order that is 638 00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:52,920 represented by Vargas well keptain. I'm afraid this is finally something that can't talk 639 00:52:53,000 --> 00:53:02,000 you away out of it. You want to bet you killed him? Veris 640 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,920 come my dollar? Give me my gun back? You don't know. It's 641 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:15,360 just telling me you killed Pete? Bullets from your gun? Do you think 642 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:22,159 anyone would believe that? They always believe me anyway. I never believed I 643 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:30,239 killed him. A gon. You're resisting arrest? How could you arrest me 644 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:40,800 here? This is my country and this is where you're gonna die. There 645 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,440 wasn't no miss focus. That was it to turn you around. I don't 646 00:53:44,440 --> 00:54:12,519 wanna you turn him back unless you rally try to run for it. Mmm. 647 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,800 What is she there? They can bring my wife. She's in the 648 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,760 car. That's Mensi's he's dad. Quinlan's been shot too. He's lying by 649 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,800 the recorder down there. I've got it all on tape. You sure you 650 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:36,000 got enough? Pardon enough? Go play it back. You'll see Susie right. 651 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,119 Well, these years you've been playing me for a second, taking evidence, 652 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:57,119 aiding justice partner. Hang, Susie, it's all over, Susie. 653 00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:05,960 I'm taking you home home minute, your friend know what it was in Gilly 654 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:13,480 Gilly. Hang. No, I ain't working for foss Okay, here it 655 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:24,440 is still doing. That's the second bullet I stopped for you. For anyone 656 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,440 that has never seen a film noir, or even if you are well versed 657 00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:34,360 to the genre, this film is a mussy. It is filled with suspense, 658 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,960 beautiful cinematography, in biting dialogue, all well known aspects of the film 659 00:55:40,039 --> 00:55:45,960 noir genre. It is the quintessential noir. Sadly, people did not feel 660 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:52,079 the same way. Upon release, the film was disregarded by critics and would 661 00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:57,719 be Wells's last American made film before he went back to Europe. Much like 662 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:04,199 the earlier reviewed Magnificent Amberson's, Wells's final vision did not make it to the 663 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,159 big screen. He lost final editing when he refused to come to a redubbing 664 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:15,800 following a memo he sent to the studio. Unlike the Magnificent Amberson's, his 665 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:22,360 original vision was able to be restored in nineteen ninety eight. What they did 666 00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:30,000 is followed the same memo Wells sent to the studio in post production. That 667 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:36,599 version has garnered mass acclaim and led to the film being deemed culturally significant. 668 00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:43,079 Sadly, Wells would never see or hear this. He would never take part 669 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:50,280 of the acclaim because he died thirteen years prior in nineteen eighty five. 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