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Joining us now is our good buddy
Max Chadwick on the Engles sideline. Max.

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Welcome back, Bud. That's going, guys, it's going, man.

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Listen. In the first segment,
we were playing a clip today from

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Dave Tube, who is the special
teams coordinator from the Chiefs, and I

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don't think you and I have talked
about this new kickoff rule to an extent,

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and I think it's worth bringing up
because it's flying under the radar a

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little bit in terms of the drastic
change. And Dave brought up the fact

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that and I don't know if he's
bluffing or not, but hey, we

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may take Harrison Butker off the field
and put Justin Reid out there because the

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central in fact that we don't go
Butcker getting blown up six times a game

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as a potential tackler. What's your
overall sense of what this kickoff rule will

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mean, not only the offense to
defense, but just special teams construction in

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general. Yeah, obviously it's going
to be a brand new kickoff that we

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have this year that hopefully the main
purpose of this is to limit injuries.

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Right, you know, kickoffs is
one of the most dangerous plays in football

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before this where guys are just running, you know, thirty yards downfield without

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anyone touching them in an obviously kind
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for kickoffs so off of this,
this a little bit injury is really why

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they designed it this way, and
I'm excited for it, honestly. I

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think it's a good rule change that
we've seen you done well in the XFL

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before and the UFL as well,
and obviously the NFL took note of that

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and this is a way for that
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it's going to be interesting to see
how the kickoff rules adjust teams in terms

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of special teams and how the returners
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do think it's a great rule that
we have now to make the game a

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little bit safer. Yeah, safer
and exciting too, because I mean the

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kickoff's been dead for about a decade
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to be a thirty yard automatic,
so I mean there's a lot of situational

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football involved. Max Chadwick is our
guest from PFF dot com. So we've

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seen receivers getting paid now. Obviously
Jalen Wabble got a big contract here.

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We saw Nico Collins get a top
ten type of deal the other day,

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but still looming here there are a
couple of guys for Cincinnati, Jamar Chase

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and notably Tea Higgins right down here
from the road to Clemson on the franchise

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tag. How do you see this
Cincinnati situation working out with these two very

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talented wide receivers, one of whom's
on the tag, the others looking for

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I would argue, the largest contract
in his position's history. Yeah, I

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think it's They're in a really tough
spot right now, right where I think

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Jamar Chase is most likely against signed
to a long term deal and probably the

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highest paid receiver in the league,
at least until Joseph Jefferson gets his contract.

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I think he and Jefferson are kind
of weeding each other out right now.

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I've see former college teammates, former
best friends. I think both of

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them they might be a little bit
of a friendly back and forth of them

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saying, hey, you know,
whoever signs first is going to get paid

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less, obviously because whoever, whatever
their number is, the next one's going

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to want to beat it. See. Higgins is a more interesting case.

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I don't really think he'll be a
Sinstani Bengal for much longer than this upcoming

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season. Honestly, I think there's
a really good chance that he's gonna be

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on his way out. He's also
you know, he's requested the trades before.

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Obviously that hasn't happened yet, But
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probably gonna play for the Bengals this
year. But I think there's a pretty

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good chance that Bengals just can't afford
to pay both of them, honestly,

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and Teague's probably gonna want a lot
of money deservedly, so I think it's

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a good chance that he he goes
elsewhere for the twenty twenty five season.

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Now it's time for our obligatory Cowboys
talk. I mean, you can't do

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a show without talking cowboys. And
here they sit right now, a team

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that's had twelve win seasons the past
three years. I mean, they've been

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right there on the doorstep. The
seat has to be kind of hot for

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Mike McCarthy right now, Dak his
contract situation is interesting, and they've still

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got other guys to secure up.
Do you think they've regressed a little bit?

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I mean, obviously you lose Dan
Quinn, you bring in Mike Zimmer,

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you still got a lot of your
core intact. You bring Zeke back

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in, you lose Pollard. What's
your overall estimation of what Dallas is going

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into this season. Yeah, I
think they have regressed a little bit.

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I still think this is one of
the top teams the NFT and they should

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be competing for to be in the
Bold next year. I think, you

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know, they will be again,
like I said, like a top three

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or four team in the NFC.
But I don't think they're as good as

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they were last year. Honestly,
I think, you know, I love

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their draft this year. I think
the offensive line got a little bit worse.

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Obviously Tyron Smith, they're a long
time left tackle left for the New

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York Jets. Yeah, I think
there's a Yeah. I think they definitely

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got worse this offseason. And you
know, Stefan Gilmour so a free agent,

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I believe right now. So yeah, I think there's a really good

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chance that Dallas is not as good
as they were last year. I still

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think it's some really good players in
the team will be ground like Dak Prescott's

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a really good quarterback, and we'll
see how that situation plays out, because

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he's on the last year of his
contract too. But yeah, you lose

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Tony Pollard, you don't really get
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Yeah. I think Dallas at Dallas
definitely did get a little bit worse this

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offseason. But I still think they're
good enough to be, like I said,

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one of the top teams. And
what is a weaker NFC? Right

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now, Max, I've got an
obligatory Steelers question, if you'll indulge me.

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So, Steelers have obviously made a
lot of moves this offseason, still

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probably some moves to make. I
would think I would like to get on

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here and be like, oh,
Max, what do you think Is this

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a super Bowl caliber team? Can
they make the run? Let's start with

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baby steps. Is this a team
they can make it to the playoffs and

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win a playoff game? Because I
don't think we won one in what like

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seven years? Yeah, I think, yeah, it's probably been that long,

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right, I think. I think
I think it's a chance. Yeah.

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I think with Mike Tomlin, obviously
he's like the king of always going

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above five hundred even with bad rosters. And I think obviously they improved most

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importantly, they improved the cordback situation. They got Russell Wilson and Justin Fields

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in there now, which I think
I much rather have than Mitchell Trubisky and

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can you Pickott last year? So
definitely improved there. Obviously, they lost

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Deontay Johnson, they got a little
bit worse a receiver, but I'm excited

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to see what Roman Wilson could do
for them. Yeah, I think they

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got any offensive line, they completely
revamped, and I think they're draft overall.

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They had an excellent draft. So
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mean it's maybe the best division in
football right now, the AFC North.

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But I do think it's a chance
in Pittsburgh can make a playoffs next year

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and be above five hundred and But
I don't know about win a playoff game

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considering how good the AFC is,
right, but I do think making the

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playoffs is certainly a possibility for the
Steers. I don't know if it's likely,

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but I do think it's a possible
for Pittsburgh. And then do you

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think that there is any possibility that
the con artists Omar Khan is willing and

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Delan do you see another big trade
coming through for the Steelers something like,

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I don't know, if it doesn't
pan out in in UH with the Vikings,

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maybe a Justin Jefferson or like maybe
a DK Metcalf or just something.

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Give me, give me another wide
receiver please. Yeah, honestly, as

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a as a lifelong Steerers fan,
I'm with you that I definitely want to

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get another receiver in that uh the
in Pittsburgh. I think Brandon Ayuk has

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been the guy that's been rumored to
go there all obviously that that has not

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happened yet and has got a really
interesting dilemma because they got to pay both

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him and Deebo Samuel who leaves choose
between them? So I high it's very

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anti Steelers to make a major splash
by getting an a Justin Jefferson or anything

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like that. So I don't I
don't think that's in the cards. But

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I could see like a Brandon Ayyuk
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that, Like maybe he definitely wouldn't
get traded, but I can see them

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maybe going after a guy like maybe
T Higgins if he's a free agent.

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Yeah, obviously, Daddy, we're
not traded seeing us to a division rival

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but I could definitely see Pittsburgh going
after another receiver right now. But I

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also can see them just being happy
with what they have. You know,

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they have always done an amazing job
of drafting receivers in recent memory. And

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I like Roman Wilson I Stiel,
think they need another guy other than him

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and George Pickens. But yeah,
I think I think I guy like Brandon

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on you is probably the one guy
would keep an eye on for the Steers

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or now. I don't know if
Stafon is gonna let him walk though my

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opinions. Well, you know,
the big scud about now is how great

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Kenny Pickett looks out there in Philly. Tray, So, I mean,

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apparently I was trying to stay away
from the headlines from like NFL notified NFL

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rumors this, oh man Kenny Pickett
challenging Jalen Hurt, So like, get

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out of here with that. Come
on, it's May thirtieth. Next chat

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is our guests from BFF dot com. I was looking at some teams yesterday.

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Tray and I both were Max and
we played a little game here sort

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of yeah maybe or nah, teams
that have a chance to really make a

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playoff run and the uestion about the
Bears keep coming up. I mean,

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look, I like their secondary a
lot. They're very young, they're active,

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they get a lot of interceptions.
I think they've done a better job

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building their front four at this point. Their offensive line is so have questions.

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Caleb Williams is an X factor there. How will he fare in year

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one? Do you think they can
make the push in year one with Williams?

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Yeah, yeah, I absolutely do. I think there's a really good

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chance. I would say really good, but I think there's a really I

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would say Bears probably one of my
wildcard picks, honestly for the for the

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NFC right now, and obviously going
for the ninth worst team in the NFL,

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the wildcard team is a pretty good
jump. I really think Kayla Williams

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is that special. I think he's
one of the best correct process we've seen

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over the last decade and a half. Probably he's up there probably with Andrew

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Loucke and Trevor Lawrence. In my
opinion. You got Roman Tuesday in there

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for maybe the best trio wide receivers
and certainly up there in the NFL with

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him and Keenan Allen and DJ Moore
there as well. The offensive line is

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up and coming. I am,
I'm really all in on the Bears right

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now, and I think their defense
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last year. Really with the offense
that kind of held them back. And

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like I said, you got Kayla
Boyams and they're now well, I could

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not be a bigger fan of so
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think Chicago I think, you know, making a Texans type of leap,

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you know, year one of Kayleb
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type of year certainly within the Cars, I think I think he could,

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uh he could leave the Bears to
the UH to the wildcard round. Don't

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know about much more than that,
and I Stroud did the divisional round,

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but I do think, uh yeah, I think a wildcard is certainly possible

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for Chicago next year. You look
at the division now, I mean it's

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suddenly becoming a little bit of what
the uh the North Division in the AFC

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is over in the NFC. You've
got the contenders across the board, including

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Minnesota. I think they'll be in
a bit of a rebuild a reload here

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with a new quarterback. You got
Sam Darnold in the building as well.

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When you look at like the Rams
what they were able to do last year.

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Max Chadwick PFF dot Com is our
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a lot like the Packers that they
sort of came on strong late.

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They got some great play from some
guys that we didn't even know about,

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most of general fans didn't know about. Can the Rams do you think keep

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that momentum going not necessarily challenging for
that division with San Francisco being the standard,

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Do you think they're a ten win
team again? Yeah, I think

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there's definitely a chanst. Los Angeles
is a scene that compete in that division

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next year. Kind of a down
division right now, I think, and

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I think with them in San Francisco, they're certainly positioned to to fight for

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a walker spot along with the Bears, I think, honestly, and I

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think Matthew Stafford being healthy is huge. Uh. You have Cooper Cup and

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Pooka Kuo's one of the best duos
that we have in receiver duels in the

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NFL right now. Obviously, losing
Aaron Donald hurts, but they did address

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the defensive line significantly by getting guys
like Jared Vers and Bradon Pitts in the

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draft. So yeah, I think, uh, I think Lost's can have

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an interesting year. And I shore
I still think got defense is not great

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overall, but it did make some
mix of splashes to try to get it

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better. And I'm still a big
fan of Matthew Stafford even if he gets

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up there in age too. So
yeah, I think Los Angeles is definitely

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another team that I'm I'm you know, considering for one of those fine wild

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card spots. Fantley too, Yeah, Stafford can still sling it if he

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stays healthy, They've got a chance. Okay, So the Carolina Panthers,

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We've talked about them on and off
here with the mas define success for this

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team in Dave Canals' first year,
what are you looking for? What would

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you like to Obviously a playoff push, I feel like it's a bit of

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a reach for this team right now. Things do happen, But given what

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they've added to the roster, given
the turnover with the coaching staff, what

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are you looking for for this franchise
to stabilize? Honestly, more than just

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wins and losses. I just want
to go into year three of the Bryce

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Young era and be confident that he's
your starting quarterbacks for the future. Right

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if you spend the number overall pick
on him. You traded a lot of

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assets to get him, which actually
include basically the rights to Caleb Williams in

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addition to DJ Moore. So I
mean you traded away a lot to get

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him. I think that the more
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about just going into twenty twenty five
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know that we have our quarterback in
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I'm still a big fan of I
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of supporting him last year. I
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now, obviously be hiring dates coming
house. It's huge the drafted Xavier.

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Look at they got Deontay Johnson in
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much better job of riding Bryce down
with talent. Now it's not Bryce down

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to show that hey, I am, you know, a potential franchise quarterback

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as well. So that is I
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year more than because I, like
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a playoff team next year, I'd
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likely they're going to be picking on
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the one thing if I'm Panthers fan, the one thing I want more than

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anything else is just know that,
hey, Bryce, we are confident that

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Bryce Young is our franchise quarterback for
the future. Well said Max Chadwick PFF

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dot Com. Last question, this
is our question of the day, brought

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to you by Ingles and just putting
me on the spot here. When you

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look at the current state of the
NFL, what are like the two or

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three most important position groups aside from
quarterback in your mind as a receiver,

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edge rusher, what you look at
building a team? What comes to mind

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from Max Chadwick to say, hey, okay, in the quarterback these are

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the groups we need to solidify.
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positions that I look at and where
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is just wide receiver and corner.
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positions that obviously the effect of passing
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game the most is going to be
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paid non quarterbacks in the NFL for
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the teams are kind of coming around
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you don't have a good receiving court, more than just one out and number

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one receiver, you need multiple,
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is the pass catching is huge.
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I think we've done studies at PFF
the coverage translates more of winning than a

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pass rush does. The problem with
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a very vollatable position year over year, where a guy can be great one

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year and then you can struggle the
next year. Whereas you know, the

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top pass rushers are usually going to
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that's why they're a little bit safer
to find lead as defender than his final

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league corner. But I think the
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though, is instead of going to
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you want to find five capable defensive
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So I think it's really important nowaays. Besides obviously finding an elite quarterback

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in the NFL, you need to
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to have a great coverage unit or
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then to hiss past happy game.
No question and last question for you,

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I know you cover the college game
is as well as anybody there at PFF.

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Clinton right down the road here,
one of our schools we cover quite

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often. Here on game on,
They're opening up with Georgia. They're a

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thirteen point underdog. It looks like
the early lines will tell you what are

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some of the things there that Clinton
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because that's a hell of an opening
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think Clemston defensively, they have no
issues. I think they're gonna have one

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of the best defenses in college football
next year. Peter Wood was their sophomore

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to attackle I'm expecting a major,
major breakout year. He was unbelievable as

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a true freshman, kind of the
rotational player for them. I'm expecting huge

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things that a fam of the sophomore. I think he will staff himself is

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one of the top defensive linemen in
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eye on him. So really the
question is offensively, can k Clubnick finally

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be you know, the number one
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was billed to be. He hasn't
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of years as Clemson's starting quarterbacks.
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a big year three for him now. Uh So I'm really excited to see

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what he could do uh for them. And obviously getting the receiving corp better

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is really really important. They haven't
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which is a big mistake in my
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passing game is so so huge and
we'll see if Garrett Riley can you know,

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he he was, you know,
the Royals Award winner at TCU as

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their officer coordinator, didn't obviously do
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But I think the biggest thing for
Clemson this upcoming season is just get that

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passing game right man, because you
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he just hasn't put it together yet. And make sure you find some capable

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receivers right now. He's going to
us another big problem the Clemson has had

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over the last few years. You
can find his work at PFF dot com,

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at Max Chadwick CFB on the old
Twitter slash x ap Max. It's

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always good to catch up my friend. Thanks for stopping by. Thanks guys,