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This is Later with Lee Matthews,
The Lee Matthews Podcast. More of what

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You here Weekday Afternoon's On the Drive. Jerry Cone, a filmmaker behind one

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of Bruce Willis's final films, Vendetta, and the upcoming action movie The Get

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Back with Dermott mulroney, has a
new book out about filmmaking fifty movies made.

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What the subtitle Lessons Learned in a
Filmmaker's Journey, and he talks about

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working with all of these great stars
and he's joining us now to talk about

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that. Jared Cone, good to
have you along. Yes, it's so

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great to have me on. Yeah, thank you so much. And it's

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great to be able to talk about
the you know, the book. I've

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been making movies for over twenty years, made over fifty and yeah, this

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book is sort of, you know, about my story and about the lessons

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and really about the crazy business that
is the Hollywood machine. And so I

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know, you know, people are
interested, and I too try to address

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their interests. They love that behind
the scenes stuff. And when kids come

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up to me and say, hey, I want to get into radio,

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usually my advice is, really,
I'm trying to get out, is it

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the same with filmmaking. That's a
group. I really like that you can

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use that line, use that line
really, I'm trying. Yeah, yeah,

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uh, you know, I think
it's not it's not what people expect

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it is. And a lot of
people have told me that the book sort

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of reads like a cautionary tale at
times. Uh, because I when I

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came out the La eighteen bright eye, you know, stars in my eye,

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I thought it was gonna be easy
and I was gonna be on major

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you know sets and lots doing with
movie stars, and it just cut to

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like, you know, ten fifteen
years later, me grinding and broke in

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my crappy apartment, you know,
like just struggling to get you know,

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any kind of work I can.
And so for those people, I'll tell

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you ninety nine percent of people come
to Hollywood and they go back home to

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where they are. Yes, So
it's it's a brutal industry and not for

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the faint of heart. So a
lot, yeah, a lot of what

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you said is true. You know
him from many films like Vendetta fifty movies

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Made, Lessons learned in filmmaking,
and my filmmaker's Junry. This is Jared

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cohis with us. Dude, I
understand you're going to be doing some production

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here in Oklahoma. Well, yeah, I did you know. I did

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a movie called Cheer for Your Life. It was like all movies, a

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lifetime thriller about cheerleaders, and that
was it was amazing. You know,

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we shot and this is probably a
couple of years ago, and Oklahoma has

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this amazing tax incentive. So all
these I live in LA and all these

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movies are going to you know,
Oklahoma or you know, Georgia. It's

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about alcohol, is is you guys
are doing it right with the taxing CENTERCE

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like California sucks. We need to
do exactly what you guys are doing.

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Everyone's leaving and they're going and they're
going there, which is great for Oklahoma.

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I hope it's you know, doing
great things through your economy. But

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well, as long as you leave
the left leaning sensibilities on the coast,

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I think we're fine. Yeah,
yeah, we're we're We're I'm from Yeah,

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I'm from the East Coast. I'm
yeah. I'm there to you know,

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shoot, take shoot the landscapes and
the buildings and the and and interact

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with the kind people. Yeah.
No, I'm not bringing the that that

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stuff. I don't do that well. And the thing is is we have

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so much different scenery. We also
have a lot of Victorian and Edwardian buildings

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that are still standing. So if
you want to shoot a period piece,

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it's it's you know, it's probably
not very expensive. You don't have to

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set up a lot of stuff.
No, it's it's great. And when

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I when I worked there, people
are kind and they're like, you want

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to ask you, is it possible
to shoot here that your people are happy

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to have you around. You know, for the most part in la if

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you you know, someone sees you
carrying a camera that they will yell at

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you and demand money, you know
because part of their part of their house

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was in the shot or something stupid
like it's it's a people, it's crazy.

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People actually will drive up to a
movie production with their stereo crank super

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loud and it's a little scam.
They just production will up, Hey can

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you can you turn that down?
Can you turn that down? And then

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it's like you gotta get off.
Give the guy a hundred bucks. Yeah,

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here you go, and you'll drive
off like it's a scam. Yeah,

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you blast their stereo one of the
lessons learned and fifty movies made,

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lessons learned from a filmmaker's journey.
And this is Jared Cohne, who's with

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us. Uh, you don't have
to name names, but you've worked with

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some pretty big power how houses have
any of them been? Shall't we say

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less than professional? I have?
And there's some stories in the book about

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Uh, some actors that I have
worked with that man have just driven me

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up a wall. And and and
it's tough because when you're when you're making

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a movie, it's not like you're
at a restaurant. You know, one

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of the waiters or is terrible,
you can just fire them and tend them

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home that night. If you're a
week into a movie and you're and your

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main one of your main actors is
just driving you up a wall. Like

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as a director, that's a tough
spot to be in because you can't you

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cannot say, okay, actor,
you're fired and we're just gonna put a

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different person in for your role,
like you have to kind they have a

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lot of power. The actors have
a lot of a lot of power because

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after after a few days of filming, you're okay. It's not like you're

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not gonna be like, all right, let's just throw those you know,

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thirty thousand dollars days out and start
over again. Actors have a lot of

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power, and the actor's mood can
completely dictate the tone of the set.

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Like if if an actor is in
a good mood, great, everyone's probably

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you know, if you're right,
if the actor is in a bad mood

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that day and everyone's walking on egg
shows, and man, what a tough

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spot to be. And I do
not h envy any and even on the

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biggest budget level, like I'd rather
do smaller budgets and work with cool actors

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and big budgets and you know,
driving me crazy. People who want to

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be there, who want to be
there, not necessarily trying to exactly you

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said it best. If you want
to be there and you're having a good

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time, that's the that's the right
attitude. If if if you're grumpy or

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you're just gonna bring other people down
and and that that that's obviously goes for

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any industry, but yeah, it's
really goes for the you know, on

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be the on set, it's gonna
everyone's on top of each other and you're

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coloratively collaborating and they're ego and artistic
decisions. It could get really ugly and

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you have to you have to manage
them in the book. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, okay, And thank you
for joining us. We look forward to

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reading the book. It is called
Fifty Movies Made Lessons that I've learned with

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the Lessons Learned on a Filmmaker's Journey. And Jared Cohne is with us.

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Jared, thanks for joining us,
Thank you so much for having Thanks for

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