The brew Crew win game up. I think they're about thirteen or fourteen games
better this All Star Break than last year in first place in the National League
Central, which is unbelievable first place. But until then, there was a
police shooting over the weekend and Covington, of course, Rob Sanders, it's
the Missy Powers of Northern Kentucky. He's with us now and Rob Sanders,
welcome again. And the Bill Cunningham Show. And what can you tell us
about the police shooting in Covington a couple of days ago? And I assume
the officers doing okay, But to get what facts can you tell us if
anything willie? There was an altercation in Covington a few minutes afternoon just yesterday.
We're an individual who neighbors had called nine one one asking for police to
respond and deal with because he was causing him disturbance in the neighborhood. That
confrontation quickly turned violent and there was an altercation between this man and the Covington
police officer involved in During that altercation, initially one shot was fired fired excuse
me, followed by multiple shots. That subject was taken to University of Cincinnati
Hospital suffering from gunshot wounds. Where he ultimately died from those wounds is according
to media accounts, this issue is being investigated by the Kentucky State Police because
of local involvement. I assume the officer now is doing okay. Did he
suffer any injuries in the altercation to your knowledge, Willie Well. First of
all, Kentucky State Police is investigating because that's our normal protocol these days when
it comes to officer involved shootings, especially ones that result in a fatality,
set standard protocol. The officer is off on paid leave at this time.
I have not spoken to him because that's protocol as well. I don't speak
to him until after he's been interviewed by Kentucky State Police and the investigation is
concluded. It's been reported in the media from I think at Kentucky State Police
press release that the officer suffered bumps and bruises, scrapes, that sort of
thing. But I really suspect from what I've seen that he may have suffered
a concussion as well, or at least I wouldn't be surprised if he suffered
a concussion. But he is not seriously injured, not life threatening injuries all.
And let's move on to page two. I know your comments there have
to be somewhat restrained. There was also a headline in media about a possible
hate crime committed against Hispanics. Before we talk about a Democratic bill in California
that would mandate judges in California to consider race when doling out prison sentences that
has passed by a wide margin in the General Assembly is going to be signed
into law by Gavin Newsom. We'll talk about that in a moment. But
what was that story about in Covington about his an Hispanic being robbed and possibly
a hate crime. Well, this case, Willie, goes all the way
back to January. There were two Hispanic males in their early twenties who were
shot during a street robbery in Covington. One of the victims died from his
wounds. The other was treated for a gunshot wound to the leg and survived.
You haven't heard much in the media about the case until now because the
two individuals who are arrested and charged with both murder and assault and robbery were
two juvenile suspects at the time, one fourteen one fifteen year old. I
believe one of them said a birthday, so it's now two fifteen year olds.
They have been subsequently transferred to adult court to be tried as adults.
That's they've now been indicted by the Kent and County Grand Jury. That's why
their names there is a mister mcmeans and mister Jones Snap are two defendants.
Their names have been made public because they are being tried as adults. Given
the serious nature of those crimes. Where this has a racial component to it
or an ethnicity component to it, is that we believe the motivation for these
robberies was tied to the race of the victims because these individuals made rather racist
assumption that Hispanics don't have bank accounts and would carry large sums of cash.
Now, I'm very careful about throwing around the term hate crime because I don't
think or I haven't seen anything to make me indicate that these are making me
believe there's any indication these two hated Hispanics. They just made the racist assumption
that Hispanics carry large amounts of cash and would be unlikely to cooperate with police.
Now that may or may not be true. I think it's a gross
assumption, certainly not one that I would make such a life or death decision
on like these two morons did. But hate crime, also in Kentucky is
pretty much a meaningless law. Gives judges the ability to deny probation or parole.
It gives the parole board basis to deny parole, but they can deny
parole or they can deny probation for any reason they want it. You know,
it really doesn't add a single day to the sentence. It's not a
crime in and of itself. So really, all hate crime does in Kentucky
is make more work for the prosecutors to prosecute them as hate crimes and really
doesn't give us any benefit at the end. Nevertheless, in this case,
I don't want people to get the wrong idea that I don't think this crime
was perpetrated because of a hate for Hispanics. I think it was a misguided
assumption about Hispanics having money and not cooperating with police. Yeah, and the
other thing, not too many robbers with guns have loved toward their victim.
Practically every one of these crimes is a hate crime because you have hatred toward
that person. You want to destroy that person, you want to take their
money, their life, or whatever, and so hate crimes after a little
old lady walking down the street. It's not because they hate little old ladies.
It's just because they think they're an easy target. You know, that
they're frail, that they're small, that they can get their persuay from them
really easily. That doesn't mean that they hate little old ladies. But nevertheless,
it's a crime of opportunity, and that's what I think we have here
now. Now. Lastly, I read with interest and I feel as if
Joe Biden cannot be the nominee of the Democrat Party because he's mentally incompetent and
at some point something's going to happen that's nonrecoverable, and that Gavin Newsom,
the governor of California, represents the modern Democrat Party and he's likely to be
the nominee, maybe with your governor as the vice president candidate. Many I've
read some national stuff. How popular your governor is when it comes to national
politics. I'm much sure how popular isn't in Kentucky, but nationally is pretty
popular. I read this story out of Sacramento that Democratic building California would mandate
judges to consider race when doling out prison sentences. It's past one house is
ready to pass the other, and it's the intent of the legislature to rectify
the racial bias that is historically permeated our criminal justice system, as documented by
the California Task Force to study and develop reparation proposals to African Americans. Whenever
the court has discretion, it must consider the race of the defendant, especially
if an African American of descent, to determine whether a lighter sentence is warranted.
And so the same person in Los Angeles or Sacramento can commit exactly the
same offense and you receive less of a sentence if you're black. How stupid
is that? Actually? So let me get this straight, Willie, California
is going to correct the evils of racism by giving different punishment based upon race.
Yes, seem to make a whole lot. Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe I failed that logic class that I thought I gotta be plus in
back in college. But nevertheless, doesn't make much sense to me. I
thought justice was supposed to be blind. I thought it was supposed to be
based upon the individual crime, the individual conduct, the individual's criminal history,
that sort of thing. I didn't think we were supposed to look at skin
color and decide whether that crime was better or worse based upon the skin color
the defendant. Seems like we got our trouble, got ourselves into trouble as
a country by doing that several decades ago. Of course, none of those
people are still alive, and none of those people alive now we're around back
then. Nevertheless, I think we've done great things in America and America about
being more colorblind, not less colorblind. I'm sorry, I think I got
that back. We have any color blinds. We don't need to be less
colorblind. We need to be more colorblinds. We've made great strides in the
United States in terms of criminal justices and making punishments equal across the board based
upon the crime committed and based upon the criminal history of the defendant committing that
crime. We need to be moving in that direction, continue moving in that
same direction we have over the last several decades. Why liberal Democrats want to
move away from that and want to be more racist not less racist, is
beyond me. It's really but I tell you this. You know, if
they want to take my governor right now, my current governor, and make
him the vice President of United States. I'd be all for that, because
if he's anything like Tambala Harris, he won't do much of anything. Vice
president will be much less of a thread to me here in Kentucky if we
make them the vice president, So I'd be all in favorite. In fact,
it might be Rob Sanders for Andy Basher to leave the state of Kentucky.
I want to share with the American people the actual language in California's quote.
Whenever the sentencing court has discretion to determine the appropriate sentence according to relevant
statutes and the sentencing rules of the California Judicial Council, the court presiding over
criminal matter shall consider the despair an impact on historically disenfranchising system impacted populations.
The footnote says African Americans have been historically disenfranchised for the last twenty years.
Which political party has disenfranchised and impacted African Americans in California? That'd be the
Democratic Party. So the Democrats the other one's doing it well. I don't
know, Willie. Maybe California hasn't heard. I know, California's long way
from Washington, DC, but maybe they haven't heard about that Supreme Court decision.
That was just handed down where they told Harvard University in University of North
Carolina that they're not allowed to make race based decisions in government. Maybe California
hasn't heard that yet. Well, they want to ignore it, because I'm
going to have Senator jd vance on later this week, and the statements of
the university presidents and others connected to that decision is that we're not going to
pay attention to that. We're going to ignore that ruling. The dean of
the law school you Cal Berkeley, in a class that was recorded, said
we're not going to say it anymore in writing, We're simply going to do
it. In other words, we're going to practice discrimination, which is called
affirmative action. And we're if asked under oath whether we're doing that. According
to a Dean Sharmanski, he said, we're gonna lie under oath. If
they can't prove it, we're simply gonna lie about it. And so we
have nothing but chaos when the liberal the blue cities and blue states are saying
that Supreme Court decision doesn't apply to us, we're going to work around and
ignore it. Isn't that chaos? Really? My Twitter feed, these days
is populated by one story after another of a democratic official here or there,
big city, or governor or attorney general of some democratic state, all proclaiming
that they are going to ignore Supreme Court directive, Supreme Court precedent, they
are going to ignore it and just do what they want. Can you imagine
what the media would do if it were Republican elected officials proclaiming that they were
going to ignore the Supreme Court of the United States of America. You want
to talk about chaos. The media would be losing their minds, going off
on Republicans And how dare they ignore the Supreme Court to democracy? Right now
the media talks about it is if it's like a feather in their cap or
a mark of bravado. How these democratic elected officials are so brave that they
are ignoring the Supreme Court and they're going to do what they want and Supreme
Court beat damned. It's their opinion, the democratic opinion that counts enough.
The Supreme Court. That is chaos. I weep for this country if this
continues. Well, about seventy years ago, in Brown versus Board of Education,
the US Supreme Court ruled that's separate but equal is wrong. It's unconstitutional
that black kids have got to receive the same education as white kids. And
at that point, I have the quotes of all these Democratic governors, generally
in the South, that said, you know what, we're going to avoid
that decision. We don't think we have to follow that. And that began
all the civil rights movements because Democrats about seventy years ago said you know what,
we're not going to pay attention to the law. Here we are seven
years later and the same Democratic party, which always talks about a threat to
democracy, the same Democratic party saying, you know what, we're going to
ignore that. We're not going to pay attention into that. To me,
it's the damnedest thing, and the media doesn't cover it because it doesn't fit
their agenda. You know what's screwed up, Willie, is when it comes
to this California thing and using race based sentencing laws. What's really screwed up
about this is when they sentenced minority criminals. You know, I don't know
black criminals, Hispanic criminals, whoever. They're trying to benefit from this crazy
idea that they are going to use race based sentencing. Those sentences aren't going
to be overturned. The ones that are going to be overturned, the criminals
that are going to benefit from this the most are all the white defendants.
Because the white defendants are going to appeal. It's going to go spring court
and Spreme Court's gonna say no, you can't do that, and they're going
to throw out the sentences to those white criminals. Willie, I'm a prosecute.
The only person I'm prejudice against is a criminal. I don't care what
color they are, and I don't want their sentences getting thrown out. Whether
they're Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, other, whatever other color you
can come up with. Their ethnicity you can come up with. They are
criminals. They ought to be in prison. They ought to be doing the
crime or doing the time for the crime. That's what I want to do.
I don't care what their skin color is. But it's the white criminals,
ironically, that are going to have their sentences thrown out if they go
to the court and argue that they got a heaf to your sentence because they're
not a minor order. And I wonder what the black victims of crime think
about this. Over ninety percent of the victims of black criminals are black.
Over ninety percent of the victims of white criminals are white. And as a
consequence, you're telling black victims of crime and you don't count you're suffering.
Isn't the same as some white victim of a white criminal. This is crazy,
but it passes because of the reparation's movement. This is a reparation And
to me, my god, away in trouble. When law enforcement officials ignore
the law and ignore the US Supreme Court and say we're gonna do what we
want to do, pretty sad. But you're exactly right, Willie. That's
you know. The unfortunate thing is the one class of citizen who absolutely gets
lost in all this mix and all this debate about in color and criminal justice
system. The one class that gets lost is the crime victim. And again
doesn't matter what color of their skin is. What matters is that they were
unfairly and unjustly made the victim of crime. Nobody chooses to be a victim
of crime the same way nobody chooses their skin color, and shouldn't be punished
for it. Well, people shouldn't be punished because they've been made a victim
of crime by a criminal. Yet that is the class of citizen that is
concerned that the media is concerned least about. That is the class of citizen
that loses rights the fastest. That's the class of citizen that we need to
remember when we put our foot down and say no to things like race based
sentence. Rob Sanders can't County prosecutor. Thank you again for coming on the
Bill Cunningham Show. This so glorious Monday afternoon. Rob Sanders, thank you
very much, Willie, thanks for having me. I look forward. I'll
be happy to come back and update you this as soon as this investigation into
the Covington police shooting is finished and we can report back with hundred percent conclusive
conclusiveness what was found and what steps are next. I'll be happy to update
you as soon as we have that information. Thank you all. Look for
a press release from you. It'll be uh, Rob Sanders for Andy Basher,
vice presidential candidate. That's what I'm waiting for. Amen, Willie,
let's damage that way. He's got my vote. Rob Sanders, thank you
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