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The brew Crew win game up.
I think they're about thirteen or fourteen games

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better this All Star Break than last
year in first place in the National League

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Central, which is unbelievable first place. But until then, there was a

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police shooting over the weekend and Covington, of course, Rob Sanders, it's

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the Missy Powers of Northern Kentucky.
He's with us now and Rob Sanders,

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welcome again. And the Bill Cunningham
Show. And what can you tell us

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about the police shooting in Covington a
couple of days ago? And I assume

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the officers doing okay, But to
get what facts can you tell us if

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anything willie? There was an altercation
in Covington a few minutes afternoon just yesterday.

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We're an individual who neighbors had called
nine one one asking for police to

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respond and deal with because he was
causing him disturbance in the neighborhood. That

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confrontation quickly turned violent and there was
an altercation between this man and the Covington

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police officer involved in During that altercation, initially one shot was fired fired excuse

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me, followed by multiple shots.
That subject was taken to University of Cincinnati

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Hospital suffering from gunshot wounds. Where
he ultimately died from those wounds is according

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to media accounts, this issue is
being investigated by the Kentucky State Police because

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of local involvement. I assume the
officer now is doing okay. Did he

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suffer any injuries in the altercation to
your knowledge, Willie Well. First of

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all, Kentucky State Police is investigating
because that's our normal protocol these days when

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it comes to officer involved shootings,
especially ones that result in a fatality,

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set standard protocol. The officer is
off on paid leave at this time.

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I have not spoken to him because
that's protocol as well. I don't speak

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to him until after he's been interviewed
by Kentucky State Police and the investigation is

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concluded. It's been reported in the
media from I think at Kentucky State Police

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press release that the officer suffered bumps
and bruises, scrapes, that sort of

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thing. But I really suspect from
what I've seen that he may have suffered

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a concussion as well, or at
least I wouldn't be surprised if he suffered

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a concussion. But he is not
seriously injured, not life threatening injuries all.

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And let's move on to page two. I know your comments there have

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to be somewhat restrained. There was
also a headline in media about a possible

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hate crime committed against Hispanics. Before
we talk about a Democratic bill in California

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that would mandate judges in California to
consider race when doling out prison sentences that

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has passed by a wide margin in
the General Assembly is going to be signed

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into law by Gavin Newsom. We'll
talk about that in a moment. But

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what was that story about in Covington
about his an Hispanic being robbed and possibly

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a hate crime. Well, this
case, Willie, goes all the way

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back to January. There were two
Hispanic males in their early twenties who were

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shot during a street robbery in Covington. One of the victims died from his

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wounds. The other was treated for
a gunshot wound to the leg and survived.

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You haven't heard much in the media
about the case until now because the

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two individuals who are arrested and charged
with both murder and assault and robbery were

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two juvenile suspects at the time,
one fourteen one fifteen year old. I

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believe one of them said a birthday, so it's now two fifteen year olds.

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They have been subsequently transferred to adult
court to be tried as adults.

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That's they've now been indicted by the
Kent and County Grand Jury. That's why

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their names there is a mister mcmeans
and mister Jones Snap are two defendants.

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Their names have been made public because
they are being tried as adults. Given

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the serious nature of those crimes.
Where this has a racial component to it

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or an ethnicity component to it,
is that we believe the motivation for these

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robberies was tied to the race of
the victims because these individuals made rather racist

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assumption that Hispanics don't have bank accounts
and would carry large sums of cash.

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Now, I'm very careful about throwing
around the term hate crime because I don't

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think or I haven't seen anything to
make me indicate that these are making me

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believe there's any indication these two hated
Hispanics. They just made the racist assumption

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that Hispanics carry large amounts of cash
and would be unlikely to cooperate with police.

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Now that may or may not be
true. I think it's a gross

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assumption, certainly not one that I
would make such a life or death decision

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on like these two morons did.
But hate crime, also in Kentucky is

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pretty much a meaningless law. Gives
judges the ability to deny probation or parole.

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It gives the parole board basis to
deny parole, but they can deny

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parole or they can deny probation for
any reason they want it. You know,

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it really doesn't add a single day
to the sentence. It's not a

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crime in and of itself. So
really, all hate crime does in Kentucky

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is make more work for the prosecutors
to prosecute them as hate crimes and really

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doesn't give us any benefit at the
end. Nevertheless, in this case,

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I don't want people to get the
wrong idea that I don't think this crime

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was perpetrated because of a hate for
Hispanics. I think it was a misguided

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assumption about Hispanics having money and not
cooperating with police. Yeah, and the

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other thing, not too many robbers
with guns have loved toward their victim.

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Practically every one of these crimes is
a hate crime because you have hatred toward

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that person. You want to destroy
that person, you want to take their

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money, their life, or whatever, and so hate crimes after a little

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old lady walking down the street.
It's not because they hate little old ladies.

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It's just because they think they're an
easy target. You know, that

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they're frail, that they're small,
that they can get their persuay from them

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really easily. That doesn't mean that
they hate little old ladies. But nevertheless,

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it's a crime of opportunity, and
that's what I think we have here

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now. Now. Lastly, I
read with interest and I feel as if

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Joe Biden cannot be the nominee of
the Democrat Party because he's mentally incompetent and

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at some point something's going to happen
that's nonrecoverable, and that Gavin Newsom,

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the governor of California, represents the
modern Democrat Party and he's likely to be

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the nominee, maybe with your governor
as the vice president candidate. Many I've

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read some national stuff. How popular
your governor is when it comes to national

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politics. I'm much sure how popular
isn't in Kentucky, but nationally is pretty

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popular. I read this story out
of Sacramento that Democratic building California would mandate

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judges to consider race when doling out
prison sentences. It's past one house is

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ready to pass the other, and
it's the intent of the legislature to rectify

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the racial bias that is historically permeated
our criminal justice system, as documented by

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the California Task Force to study and
develop reparation proposals to African Americans. Whenever

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the court has discretion, it must
consider the race of the defendant, especially

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if an African American of descent,
to determine whether a lighter sentence is warranted.

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And so the same person in Los
Angeles or Sacramento can commit exactly the

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same offense and you receive less of
a sentence if you're black. How stupid

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is that? Actually? So let
me get this straight, Willie, California

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is going to correct the evils of
racism by giving different punishment based upon race.

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Yes, seem to make a whole
lot. Yeah, I don't know.

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Maybe I failed that logic class that
I thought I gotta be plus in

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back in college. But nevertheless,
doesn't make much sense to me. I

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thought justice was supposed to be blind. I thought it was supposed to be

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based upon the individual crime, the
individual conduct, the individual's criminal history,

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that sort of thing. I didn't
think we were supposed to look at skin

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color and decide whether that crime was
better or worse based upon the skin color

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the defendant. Seems like we got
our trouble, got ourselves into trouble as

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a country by doing that several decades
ago. Of course, none of those

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people are still alive, and none
of those people alive now we're around back

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then. Nevertheless, I think we've
done great things in America and America about

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being more colorblind, not less colorblind. I'm sorry, I think I got

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that back. We have any color
blinds. We don't need to be less

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colorblind. We need to be more
colorblinds. We've made great strides in the

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United States in terms of criminal justices
and making punishments equal across the board based

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upon the crime committed and based upon
the criminal history of the defendant committing that

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crime. We need to be moving
in that direction, continue moving in that

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same direction we have over the last
several decades. Why liberal Democrats want to

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move away from that and want to
be more racist not less racist, is

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beyond me. It's really but I
tell you this. You know, if

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they want to take my governor right
now, my current governor, and make

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him the vice President of United States. I'd be all for that, because

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if he's anything like Tambala Harris,
he won't do much of anything. Vice

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president will be much less of a
thread to me here in Kentucky if we

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make them the vice president, So
I'd be all in favorite. In fact,

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it might be Rob Sanders for Andy
Basher to leave the state of Kentucky.

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I want to share with the American
people the actual language in California's quote.

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Whenever the sentencing court has discretion to
determine the appropriate sentence according to relevant

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statutes and the sentencing rules of the
California Judicial Council, the court presiding over

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criminal matter shall consider the despair an
impact on historically disenfranchising system impacted populations.

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The footnote says African Americans have been
historically disenfranchised for the last twenty years.

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Which political party has disenfranchised and impacted
African Americans in California? That'd be the

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Democratic Party. So the Democrats the
other one's doing it well. I don't

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know, Willie. Maybe California hasn't
heard. I know, California's long way

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from Washington, DC, but maybe
they haven't heard about that Supreme Court decision.

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That was just handed down where they
told Harvard University in University of North

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Carolina that they're not allowed to make
race based decisions in government. Maybe California

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hasn't heard that yet. Well,
they want to ignore it, because I'm

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going to have Senator jd vance on
later this week, and the statements of

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the university presidents and others connected to
that decision is that we're not going to

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pay attention to that. We're going
to ignore that ruling. The dean of

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the law school you Cal Berkeley,
in a class that was recorded, said

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we're not going to say it anymore
in writing, We're simply going to do

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it. In other words, we're
going to practice discrimination, which is called

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affirmative action. And we're if asked
under oath whether we're doing that. According

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to a Dean Sharmanski, he said, we're gonna lie under oath. If

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they can't prove it, we're simply
gonna lie about it. And so we

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have nothing but chaos when the liberal
the blue cities and blue states are saying

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that Supreme Court decision doesn't apply to
us, we're going to work around and

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ignore it. Isn't that chaos?
Really? My Twitter feed, these days

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is populated by one story after another
of a democratic official here or there,

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big city, or governor or attorney
general of some democratic state, all proclaiming

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that they are going to ignore Supreme
Court directive, Supreme Court precedent, they

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are going to ignore it and just
do what they want. Can you imagine

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what the media would do if it
were Republican elected officials proclaiming that they were

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going to ignore the Supreme Court of
the United States of America. You want

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to talk about chaos. The media
would be losing their minds, going off

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on Republicans And how dare they ignore
the Supreme Court to democracy? Right now

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the media talks about it is if
it's like a feather in their cap or

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a mark of bravado. How these
democratic elected officials are so brave that they

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are ignoring the Supreme Court and they're
going to do what they want and Supreme

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Court beat damned. It's their opinion, the democratic opinion that counts enough.

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The Supreme Court. That is chaos. I weep for this country if this

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continues. Well, about seventy years
ago, in Brown versus Board of Education,

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the US Supreme Court ruled that's separate
but equal is wrong. It's unconstitutional

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that black kids have got to receive
the same education as white kids. And

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at that point, I have the
quotes of all these Democratic governors, generally

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in the South, that said,
you know what, we're going to avoid

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that decision. We don't think we
have to follow that. And that began

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all the civil rights movements because Democrats
about seventy years ago said you know what,

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we're not going to pay attention to
the law. Here we are seven

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years later and the same Democratic party, which always talks about a threat to

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democracy, the same Democratic party saying, you know what, we're going to

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ignore that. We're not going to
pay attention into that. To me,

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it's the damnedest thing, and the
media doesn't cover it because it doesn't fit

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their agenda. You know what's screwed
up, Willie, is when it comes

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to this California thing and using race
based sentencing laws. What's really screwed up

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about this is when they sentenced minority
criminals. You know, I don't know

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black criminals, Hispanic criminals, whoever. They're trying to benefit from this crazy

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idea that they are going to use
race based sentencing. Those sentences aren't going

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to be overturned. The ones that
are going to be overturned, the criminals

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that are going to benefit from this
the most are all the white defendants.

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Because the white defendants are going to
appeal. It's going to go spring court

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and Spreme Court's gonna say no,
you can't do that, and they're going

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to throw out the sentences to those
white criminals. Willie, I'm a prosecute.

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The only person I'm prejudice against is
a criminal. I don't care what

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color they are, and I don't
want their sentences getting thrown out. Whether

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they're Black, White, Hispanic,
Asian, other, whatever other color you

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can come up with. Their ethnicity
you can come up with. They are

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criminals. They ought to be in
prison. They ought to be doing the

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crime or doing the time for the
crime. That's what I want to do.

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I don't care what their skin color
is. But it's the white criminals,

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ironically, that are going to have
their sentences thrown out if they go

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to the court and argue that they
got a heaf to your sentence because they're

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not a minor order. And I
wonder what the black victims of crime think

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about this. Over ninety percent of
the victims of black criminals are black.

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Over ninety percent of the victims of
white criminals are white. And as a

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consequence, you're telling black victims of
crime and you don't count you're suffering.

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Isn't the same as some white victim
of a white criminal. This is crazy,

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but it passes because of the reparation's
movement. This is a reparation And

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to me, my god, away
in trouble. When law enforcement officials ignore

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the law and ignore the US Supreme
Court and say we're gonna do what we

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want to do, pretty sad.
But you're exactly right, Willie. That's

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you know. The unfortunate thing is
the one class of citizen who absolutely gets

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lost in all this mix and all
this debate about in color and criminal justice

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system. The one class that gets
lost is the crime victim. And again

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doesn't matter what color of their skin
is. What matters is that they were

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unfairly and unjustly made the victim of
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of crime the same way nobody chooses
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for it. Well, people shouldn't
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that loses rights the fastest. That's
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remember when we put our foot down
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sentence. Rob Sanders can't County prosecutor. Thank you again for coming on the

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Bill Cunningham Show. This so glorious
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very much, Willie, thanks for
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be happy to come back and update
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the Covington police shooting is finished and
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conclusiveness what was found and what steps
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you as soon as we have that
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a press release from you. It'll
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vice presidential candidate. That's what I'm
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let's damage that way. He's got
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